1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club, yeaps 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: the world no dangerous want to show to Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Charlemagne and God Angelie ye Envy had to step out, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: but we got a special guest in the building. Man. 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: His album came out in June. It's called More Black Superheroes, 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: West Side Bookies. I finally here, man, I've been wanting 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: to come here forever. What it's also a scary place? 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Why is everybody scared of you? But no reason? But 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: it feels like you got better. I feel like appreciate. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I'm glad I came during these times. Young. 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: How old you? I just turned thirty three? Oh okay, 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: we got the whole thirteen year old, so I really 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: feel seventy. I ain't gonna lie, so damn you gotta be. 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: I got a fourteen You got a teenager. It's the 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: most irritating age in the world. Girl a boy? Your boy? 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: Oh see, I got a little girl. I think girls 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: are worse when now that seems scary. Boys are just 18 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: irritating because it's like a reflection on myself. So it's 19 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: like I'll be wanting to fire him up and he 20 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: taller to me right now too, So I gotta like 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: work out a little bit. He taller in you what 22 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: his mom must be tall? No, I don't know how 23 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: he ended up taller than me. He just only like 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: this much tall to me right now. Ok. He's still 25 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: growing exactly, and he's a basketball player. So you aren't 26 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: you smelling like the finest of weed? I talked a 27 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: lot of weed. That's what they were saying on the 28 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: airport when I got there too. That and that type 29 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: of stuff irritate me. When you're just walking back, somebody 30 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: smell like weed? Did you fly? You bought your own 31 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: in Yeah? Okay, get on the plane. Yeah, that's because CALLI. 32 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: And it's legal in New York, so that makes sense. 33 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: You feel me brought me a little ounce. Well, you 34 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: don't like New York weed? You just it's too expensive. 35 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: Y'all irritate me with y'all weed because we don't have 36 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: the dispensaries and access I think yet, all right, I 37 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: respect it. I don't gotta deal with that. You know, 38 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: they got a mad Jersey. Jersey got the dispensonies. If 39 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: you got a medicinal card, Callie, they've been doing that. Yeah, 40 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't need a card I just called a homie. Yeah, yeah, 41 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Now, let's since you do 42 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: have a sad let's talk about more black superheroes. The 43 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: album that you have out, um, you know, it came 44 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: out a couple of months ago, right going to Summer 45 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: Julie two months ago. It was fast. Yeah that's crazy. Yeah, 46 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: So how is the process making this album? I know 47 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: you had said previously that you went to therapy for 48 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: like three years and it made it a little difficult 49 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: to write at certain points. Yeah, it was tough, um, 50 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: just because the accountability factor that came with therapy. Um, 51 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: usually because I had just got out of relationship. It 52 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: was like my first like healthy relationship. I feel like 53 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: I was with your like three years. All my other 54 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: relationships I feel like was based off trauma bonding, but 55 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: this was like my first time I had like a 56 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: healthy relationship. It felt like. So when I lost her, 57 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: I was still happy because I was like, I'm going 58 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: to make a fire album because like I can make 59 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: a heart I can make a heartbreak album. You know 60 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Then I'm in therapy and my therapist 61 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: making me address stuff and make me hold myself accountable, 62 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: so I couldn't. I feel like I couldn't approach music 63 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: the same. It was hard to make certain songs, and yeah, 64 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: it took a while to even figure out what I 65 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about. Now, when you talk about your 66 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: previous relationships before that, what do you mean by trauma bonding? 67 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: Like what was like just my baby, my baby, mama. Um. 68 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: I think we were just too hurt people that this 69 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: was fighting just so we can make up. The making 70 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: up part was the best part for me, because like 71 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: it's makeup sex, you know what I'm saying, it's passion. 72 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Some people felt like fighting me you really care too, 73 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: like when you guys argue passionately. And I've had people 74 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: tell me like, if you didn't feel like you want 75 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: to kill the person that you're Yeah, and that's I 76 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: hear that a lot in my community too. And I 77 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: get it though, because you know, haydon Love, they kind 78 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: of live in the same house, you know what I'm saying. 79 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I don't want to be 80 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: in that vibe no more because trauma bonding is so real, 81 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: and we have trauma bonds, not even just with the 82 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: opposite sex. Growing up in the hood, you start hustling, 83 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: or you in a gang or whatever. Sometimes a lot 84 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: of that is trauma bonding to you all bonding over 85 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: the wrong trauma bond with the homies. Yes, that's crazy. 86 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: I never thought about that right now, spokes, we didn't 87 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: go do a drive ba. The most trauma bonding is, 88 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: I guess it's with my homies. So yeah. On L 89 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: L SAMG too, Man, you say one of the greatest 90 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: lines I've ever heard in reference to folks trying to 91 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: heal what You don't say it, but the woman on 92 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: the song says it. She said that they ain't know 93 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: where you're still a bitch ass nigga and you being therapy. Yo. 94 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that yesterday. Um, how like 95 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: when I mess up now, I feel like it's heavier 96 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: to the people around me because they just expect me 97 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: to be perfect because I've been I've been bragging about therapy. 98 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, Nigga, your therapy not working for him, 99 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, growing is for everything. And that's 100 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: the frustrating part because sometimes my growing gets staggnant. Sometimes 101 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: I take leaps forward, sometimes I backslide, and that's all 102 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: the process of it. At least, I just think Therapyti's 103 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: made me more aware of it. She gave me the tools. 104 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: My therapist gave me the tools. But it's still a 105 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 1: once a week thing. I don't I can't afford therapy 106 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: every day, so you know what I'm saying, I go 107 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: once a week too. And that's the beauty of therapy 108 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: as well, right. It teaches you don't have to be perfect. 109 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Exactly what made you decide to go? I was crying 110 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: over my ex um, I thought I just needed therapy. Also, 111 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: shout out to my management company, Love Renaissance. Um Summer 112 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: first got therapy. They got therapy for her as like welcome, 113 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: that's my label made or whatever whatever you want to 114 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: call it. But um, she got therapy first because she 115 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: was going through a lightning with the media, you know 116 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So my management got hurt therapists and 117 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: they thought it would be a good idea if they 118 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: got all the artists therapists. So what's the of Love Rendissance? 119 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: Everybody would be sign they got all the artists therapy. 120 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: Even they have therapy and we do group therapy. They 121 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: do group therapy as like the laborhood. Amazing everybody need 122 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: to sign the first Yeah, you know in the in 123 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: the nigga world, can I say nigga R yes? And 124 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: in the nigga world it looked at, it's looked at 125 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: it's crazy, Like that's the stigma around it, Like what 126 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: do I need to go talk to somebody I don't 127 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: know for and when I could just talk to the 128 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: homies or go smoke or do something like that. So 129 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: more trauma exactly. And even some days I still lie 130 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: to my therapist some days, you know what I'm saying. 131 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: Some days I like, I'm busy today because you know 132 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's irritating growing sometimes it's uncomfortable, but 133 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: I know that's where the girls come. But your first session, 134 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: she tried to just pull up on me in the studio, like, 135 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, just sit around and be a homie, which 136 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: ILL appreciate, but I still like saw through it. I 137 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: knew what she was doing. So there was a lot 138 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: of resistance at first. I don't think we got a 139 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: breakthrough to like maybe after the first three months, did 140 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: you pass your therapist to blunt or try to no. 141 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: After that first time in person, it was all zoom okay, 142 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: So I couldn't pass through the bunt through the computer. 143 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: So I don't want to be in that last relationship 144 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: that had you so upset. Why did you guys break up? Um, 145 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: it was a lot. I don't think I was a 146 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: great boyfriend at the time. I don't like like bragging 147 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: about the zodiac stuff. But I'm a Virgo and they 148 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: say we expect perfection out every Yeah, it was like 149 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I just had a party 150 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: two nights ago. You think, so sometimes we manipulative. It's 151 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: crazy because we feel like we're so smart and we 152 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: try to use it to manipulate people. But um, I 153 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: think on my last relationship, uh, tourists, Okay, Um exactly. 154 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: She artists as well, though, And I think my career 155 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: got so consuming for her. Not that I told told, 156 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: like made her be consumed by me. I just think 157 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: it just happened and she started to resent me and 158 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: feel like she couldn't be the artist she wanted to be. 159 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Um And yeah, so I think we had an argument 160 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: over the trash and she was like, we're breaking up, 161 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, she being checked out, she 162 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: being wanted to get away, you know what I'm saying. 163 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: So I respect it. She dated one of the homies 164 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: now and it's irritating, but wow, tough seeing that around 165 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: the city. But that's still your homie. Though now I 166 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: ain't talked to him. He act like I did something 167 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: wrong to him, but to him, and you got all 168 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: these thoughts in your head. You're probably you've probably been 169 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: messing around exactly and that's the tough part. But oh 170 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: my god, that's awful, except you're not making this better. 171 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Setting was not in my control is the 172 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: stuff I'm learning to deal with because that's always hard. 173 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I always got to control the situation. 174 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: So what accountability did you take because I know you 175 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: said it's about accountability too, Um, just not speaking up 176 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: on stuff I want it just like instead of me 177 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: just holding so much stuff in and like putting so 178 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: much pressure on her, I could have just spoke on it. 179 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: We could have got through it. Um. And I think 180 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: supporting her more and like I was making this thing 181 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: like this because I was paying for stuff, I was 182 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: being a great boyfriend, like, and I know it was 183 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: more than that. I needed to support her and the 184 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: stuff she cared about and really paid attention, pay attention 185 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: to the details, and I don't think I was doing that. 186 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: So it's the song Nachalt about that relationship where you 187 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: just act like I'm not calling you you nachalt. It's 188 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: really more so about me moving around acting like a 189 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: fucking niggeting being confused on why she treated me like 190 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: a fuck nigga. You know what I'm saying. It's just 191 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: like me bragging about how I'm going to take her piece, 192 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: and like why are you not answering the phone? Or 193 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: just me being irritated by girls who posts on Instagram 194 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: and don't text me back because I literally hate that. 195 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: But now you are being a thought for your birthday? 196 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: What is being a thought to you? I thought I 197 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: could be Bill belling me like how to be a 198 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: player and like invite all my show these to one place, 199 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: and it just didn't not work out. And I thought 200 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: I was being so clean. It's not like I was 201 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: hugging up on anybody. But I guess girls just could 202 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: read through stuff. Yeah, especially if they think they're dating you, 203 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: and then and you get invited, you think you the 204 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: one like invited me to his birthday party, so it's special. 205 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: And that's the thing I'm even though I'll be honest 206 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: with these girls. I think if I still move a 207 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: certain way, I still think I'm the bad person because 208 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: I'll be telling them I'm not ready to be in 209 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: a relationship. But me knowing that they're not really understanding 210 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and still choosing to move forward with them, 211 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: I'm still in the wrong. So I invited all them there, 212 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: and then the next day I got text like you're 213 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: too old to be moving like this, Like they're right 214 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: back to the therapy stuff, Like therapy is not doing 215 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: nothing for you. You look lame. I'm losing all the 216 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: spec for you. It ain't a way. You're still a 217 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: bit chass nicky. We get it. Hey, question, you talked 218 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: about your first breakthrough in therapy, right, do you shool 219 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: like sharing what that was? I'll tell you if you 220 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: tell me. Yeah, it was about my mom. It was 221 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: either about my mom or my dad. I know. Lately, 222 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: I realized I got a lot of frustration towards my 223 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: mom just because I feel like she never gave me 224 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: a space to be emotional. Your mom, while I hear 225 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: that with dad's a lot. I feel like, yeah, my 226 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: dad wasn't a round. I think my mom had just 227 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: raised me to be tough because she didn't want me 228 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: to go out in the world and get punk, you 229 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, which I get, but I think 230 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: it should have been a balance because now when I 231 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: get older and somebody tell me they loved me or 232 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: want to have emotional conversations, I shut down. It's like 233 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: weird to me. I don't like when people get to 234 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: touchy philly, I don't like when people give me compliments all. 235 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: It all makes me glitch out. And I spoke about 236 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: it in an interview before I talked to my mom 237 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: about it, and then she saw it and you know, 238 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: she got frustrated. But I'm still glad I did it 239 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: because then we had the conversation about it after. But 240 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: that breakthrough happened me understanding, like, oh, I moved these 241 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: ways in these relationships because this relationship in my past 242 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: with my mom. So but did she say, did that 243 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: change things for you guys? Um? She said sorry and 244 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: that we're gonna work on it. Um, But it's still hard. 245 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: My brains so conditioned now, and I'm still trying to 246 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: work on that. Like I said, I'm aware of it, 247 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: but that don't necessarily mean the change gonna happen immediately. 248 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, my first breakthrough was realizing that I had 249 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: daddy issues, you know what I mean. And you addressed 250 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: that on Anthony but in Wars and how difficult was 251 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: it to confront that topic? Ah? Man, that one is tough, 252 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: and that one is because I've been saying it don't 253 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: bother me forever. I've been like my daddy, my daddy 254 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: ain't been in my life. What I got this far 255 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: without him? I don't need them. But then I'm like, oh, 256 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: it's really affecting me, Like it's a my abandonment issues 257 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: and everything behind it. It's like, I gotta have a 258 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: conversation with my dad now, I gotta figure out how 259 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: to let this hate go that I didn't even know 260 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: I had, like this unaddressed trauma, so irritating. So what 261 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: was easier writing that song? I actually, I mean, I 262 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: guess you never had to convert with so writing the 263 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: song was easier. And It's like I've liked any in 264 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: the past years I've reached out. I'd be like saying yo, 265 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: but then when he say all right, can you call me? 266 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: I just shut down and we don't end up having 267 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: a conversation because it's just like I can never see 268 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: myself walking out of my son's life. And I know 269 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: that's why overcompen saying, now with my kid and I 270 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: irritate him, I'll be hugging on him, loving him so 271 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: much because my daddy never gave me none of that, 272 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: and I just don't understand. It never makes sense to me. 273 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: He blamed my mama and say, like, your mama made 274 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: it hard. I tried to come around, but it's just 275 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: like my baby mama could not stop me from seeing 276 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: my kid. Yeah, I will say, you know a lot 277 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: of the hate that I started to have for my 278 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: dad after therapy once I had a conversation with him 279 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: and realized he was just a man dealing with his 280 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: own shit. Like he went the therapy two or three 281 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: times a week, he was on tending to twelve different medications. 282 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: He tried to commit suicide. When I heard that human 283 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: in a real way for me, So I started giving 284 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: them grace. Grace. That's what my therapist was saying about 285 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: my mom when I was explaining my frustrations about her, 286 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: and she was like, do you understand how hard it 287 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: is to be a single black mom, Like because I 288 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: was mad, like I feel like my mama didn't chase 289 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: her dreams and like she taught me how to settle. 290 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: But then my therapist was like, that's a win right there, 291 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: her being able to raise you, and you need to 292 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: look at how great that was, and I downplayed that, 293 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: and like my mom is a survivor and she's strong 294 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: as hell. So yeah, I think we forget that our 295 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: parents had lives before exactly exactly, and it goes so 296 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: far back, like the way my mom moving relationships come 297 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: from my grandma. Then it's like, you know, it's just 298 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: a cycle, and we the first generation that has the 299 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: luxury of actually healing. They had to. They were scratching 300 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: and surviving, you know what I mean. That's why I 301 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: said this is the hell generation. I see all my 302 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: friends it is like great dads now they all in 303 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: their kids life. Therapy is a conversation whether people like 304 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: this is using it to look cool. I don't even care, 305 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: just because like the message out there. Now you know 306 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And sometimes you have to think you 307 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't even be who you are where you are if 308 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't for how you raised and the way that 309 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: things happen. Yeah, that's true. I honestly, I'm still scared 310 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: to heal all the way because as a rapper, I 311 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: think it's like weak. You know what I'm saying. I 312 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: don't think I could thrive as a rapper being healed 313 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: all the way. And I'm scared of that. I don't know. 314 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm right, but it's just like, you know, 315 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: the world glorified ignorance, and it's just like you gotta 316 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: play the game and feel like sometimes and anyone ever 317 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: heal all the way and you know you're right. Healing 318 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: is a constant journey. It's not a destination. You're right, 319 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: But it's just like positive me being like I'm scared 320 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: to just become a positive nigga. But you know what 321 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Look how the world started demonizing Chance for 322 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: like being happy and it's like, boy, he can't be happy. Yeah, 323 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: we had that conversation last time Chance was him. I'm like, damn, 324 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: a man can't love his wife like they hating on 325 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: Chance because he actually loves his wife. In the meantime, 326 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: Big Sulu bomped in Parru. You know what I'm saying. 327 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: I saw you told rolling stone that you you probably 328 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: like five percent healed. Yeah, we're talking about your growth. 329 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: Elaborate now her saying it's never gonna be I'm never 330 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna be healed. I don't think I'm no person. I 331 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: think I'm just learning more as I grow. As I grow, 332 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: So I saw that is. I'm just saying, like I'm 333 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: so it make it hard because I'm aware of so 334 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: much stuff now, but i still dive into so much ignorance. 335 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: Shit Like I wake up in the morning, I turn 336 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: on Whack one hunting clubhouse argument videos and start my 337 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: day and then I'll be having girls spending night and 338 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: they're like, why are you waking up on this type 339 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: of time? And I don't, like, I don't know, I'm 340 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: like addicted to like this nonsense in this chaos. We'll 341 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: just finding the balance. Wake up in the morning, you 342 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Say you're pressed, you know, I 343 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: go to my affirmation books. I got like three affirmation 344 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: books I read and I don't go to the internet 345 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: until I get here six or six in the morning. 346 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: So it's just like it's nothing wrong with doing it, 347 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: just don't you know, don't let that start you day. Yeah, 348 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: meditation actually been helping me because I do it a 349 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: lot of anxiety, Like every time I got to post 350 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram or something like that, it's hard. It's just 351 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: hard to turn my brain off. And I know meditation 352 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: is supposed to be about like accepting the thoughts for 353 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: what it is and letting them pass and staying present, 354 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: but I'll be overthinking everything. I'm like, nigga, what I'm 355 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: gonna do tomorrow? Like why are they doing me like 356 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: this two weeks ago? And it's just like it's hard. 357 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: But I'm not human. I know, man, it's human. That's 358 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: why I love that line. It ain't know where you 359 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: still a bit you're asking therapy, that's not about you. 360 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: That's valid. I almost want to write that down and 361 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: just look at it a lot, like wow, because that's 362 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: a very valid line. I'm glad you appreciate it, man, 363 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: well being that this is your first time here and 364 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: we haven't had a chance to speak to you before. 365 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about your journey and even 366 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: like I know you signed to Endoscope and then how 367 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: did you an eminem link up? That was a random 368 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: and shit, I don't know, all right, So yeah, I 369 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: started singing off in church I'm just fast forward. I 370 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: was singing in church and Compton Um realized, I don't 371 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: know what you're singing in church, And I got to 372 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: talk about thirty years of life. You know what I'm saying. 373 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: I was my mama sent me to the church and 374 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Compton I was getting in trouble. She sent me with 375 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: her homegirl to go to church. She didn't want to 376 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: come with me. Call it the buyer instead of the choir. No, 377 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: that's funny as hell. Uh. If a nigga did that, 378 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: I'll be so mad. But yeah, I was going gospel 379 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: raps at first. Then it was these little kids. I 380 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: was going to the church who was game members already, 381 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: and I thought there was the coolest niggas in the world. 382 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: So I became a follower. Just start following him. After church, 383 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: gospel raps wasn't the thing. No more, started doing regular raps. 384 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: They started rapping around the city. Got my baby mom 385 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: and pregnant. At nineteen, went to Lombe City College, finessing 386 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: four a loan, bought studio equipment, was recording in my 387 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: mama room for about four years. This white man hit 388 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: me on Twitter. In the hood, we think any white 389 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: person hit us. We made it. Well, that's what I 390 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: thought at the time. He became my manager. At the time, 391 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: he came from an ed M background. He was working 392 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: with like Scrilics. Interscope ended up calling me, um wow, 393 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but yeah, I dropped a song called oh My. 394 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: Interscope ended up calling me. I leveraged them, like, you know, 395 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: he's supposed to do all the labels, but I was 396 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: gonna end up going back to Interscope anyway. Signed with them. 397 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: Then they put me on the shelf because my manager 398 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: at the time, me and him had hit the ceiling 399 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: and they just wasn't knowing my manager. It was so scanless. 400 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: But then LVRN came around. They had got an imprint 401 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: at Interscope, and my A and R at the time 402 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: was like, hey man, I got this this company, I 403 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: think you should work with um they black and I 404 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: think y'all y'all could vibe together. At the same time, 405 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: like two weeks before that, he had caught me and say, hey, man, 406 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how Paul Rosenberg found your music, but 407 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: he fucking with you when he want to fly you 408 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: to Detroit. So at the same time I got new 409 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: management and Eminem took over my contract in like out 410 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: of nowhere. It's not like I don't know how you 411 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: found me for real, for real, They said the Rihanna 412 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: post maybe was the thing, because Rihanna did post me 413 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: like one of them years. But were you hesitant as 414 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: far as shady or where you like immediately because you 415 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: know sometimes people have an issue signing to another artist. No, 416 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't hesitant because I was already on the shelf, 417 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I was just trying 418 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: to change my situation. I was thirsty also, and it's 419 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: not like I was signing in a new deal. He 420 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: just took over my in my original contract. So yeah, 421 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: so what a eminem say when you got there? What's crazy? 422 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: He don't really talk a lot. I think we both 423 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: deal with social anxiety. I'm not even sure I supposed 424 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: to say that, but yeah, he just he what was dope? 425 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: He told me the songs he liked was like my 426 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: album cuts, and he was explaining me those lyrics, and 427 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: then that's what made me, That's what made me trust 428 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: a judgment because he wasn't just talking to me about 429 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: the viral song. So we had that conversation. I went 430 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: home and then he just gave me the freedom to create. 431 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: So that's why I appreciate them, because he gave me 432 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: advice when I needed, but he don't like overset my 433 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: creative process. Do you think about making songs that are 434 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: going to be more mainstream? Do you plant or do 435 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: you just say I just make what I feel like making. 436 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: I think this time around, I made a more conscious 437 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: effort to at least try to touch like faster bpms. 438 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: I think I gets so comfortable making slow heartbreak music, 439 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: and I think that becomes selfish to my team because 440 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: like Nigga, we're not getting no bag off these slow songs, 441 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think it's about 442 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: pushing myself, but also not like sacrifice in my integrity, 443 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because I want to be 444 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: a team player. I want to make a hit. It's 445 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: not like I'm not in it to make great songs. So, yeah, 446 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot you just talked about that that I'm lying. 447 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: There's only one thing I want to because it's so fantastic. 448 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: Most people become gang in the in the street. You 449 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: became gang in the church, Yeah, exactly, a crazy thing. 450 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: Become gang in the churches. I'm sitting there thinking if 451 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: the gang members were coming to church, they clearly was 452 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: searching for something else. No, it wasn't. We was going 453 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: because all our parents made And that's the thing, and 454 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: that's the thing in La. Gangs in churches tied so 455 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: like close together, like we always at church growing up. 456 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: Every hood had a church they went to, you know, 457 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I was really only going for the girls 458 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: and then see the homies friend of hood. So when 459 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: you got jumped in, did you like asked for God? Like, oh, 460 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: God just hurts. I ain't even gonna lie. It was 461 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: one of them things where I just was over there 462 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: since I was thirteen, and they just like accepted me. 463 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I probably fought my cousin like once he was like, 464 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: are you friend the hood? Now? Niggas inn gent me? 465 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: And I had to deal with that. I had to 466 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: deal with And that's what I'm saying. It's like it's 467 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: people from my neighborhood who had to like grow who 468 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: actually was born there and had to and had no 469 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: choice but to be from there. I walked my happy 470 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: ass over there and I didn't have to. And that's 471 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: like a message I'd be telling my kid I went 472 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: to my kid phone one time and he was saying 473 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: cud and his friends. And I should have broke my 474 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: heart because like I had never prepared him before that 475 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: type of conversation. Before that, I just tried to hide 476 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: the reason I started gang banging, forgetting that I'm a rapper. 477 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: He's still gonna see any throwing on my hood and 478 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: these songs. And I should have been had this conversation 479 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: with him because like, yeah, and so he's silver. He 480 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: ain't went to no struggle. He don't have no reason 481 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: to gang bang. But that's just because the world found 482 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: him before I had the conversation with him. And you know, 483 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: it's tempting in La. Everybody wants to gang bang in 484 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: La because it looked cool, you know what I'm saying. 485 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: So that conversation broke my heart. Especially he wanted to 486 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: be a crip and I'm a whole blood, you know 487 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So said, boy, you want to be 488 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: a Why does he want to be a crip? I 489 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: don't know, man, snoop. Maybe I don't know who knows. 490 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: Man being in the gang? Is that what you consider that? 491 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: A generational curse? Dang it is um I wanted to stop. 492 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: I know, gang banging started with like a sense of 493 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: us protecting our community, policing it from like the police 494 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: or outside entities and stuff like that. But now we're 495 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: just poison it. I'm not gonna lie like, but it 496 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: is a sense of brotherhood, a sense of community that 497 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: we don't got. But at the end of the day, 498 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: we can't act like it's a good thing, you know 499 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So it is accurse to me. What 500 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: do you think when you see people like in New 501 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: York emulating it or in other cities where that's not 502 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: really the culture up. Yeah, that just show you the 503 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: power of la gangbanging and that should be tripping me 504 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: out too when I go other places and see it too. 505 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: But they still real ones. It's not like they punks. 506 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: You go out here and they still like really with 507 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: the ship and they still like living by that code. 508 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: But I just think, yeah, the ricos is crazy, that's all. 509 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying my hood on no more songs. I'm cool. 510 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: What do you think about that about them using lyrics 511 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: against artists, we're just talking about that. I think it's unfortunate. 512 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: I think we gotta be mindful though, because like I 513 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: think black I would tell you them the homie earlier. 514 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: I think black people got this thing. We feel like 515 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: if other black people are not on the side of crime, 516 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: then they punks. Like we'll be mad at that mayor 517 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: in Atlanta or whatever. She is a governor, but because 518 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: she's doing her job. But it's just like this, because 519 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: she's standing on the opposite side of you, don't mean 520 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: she's wrong, because I get it, and y'all need to 521 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: be more mindful of stuff. Y'all saying I get what 522 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: y'all doing in these streets. But well, I said on 523 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: the song, you know what I'm saying, I agree with you. 524 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: And I realized years ago that most people's perception of 525 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: real are the definition and real is usually coming to 526 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: do it soon. And it's crazy. And it's like that 527 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: is that we conditioned by the street code, even like 528 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: people that have got nothing to do with the street 529 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: be conditioned by it. So to describe the title more 530 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: Black Superheroes, because you're not talking about comic books. No, 531 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm not not gonna make a book, um, but this 532 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: it's a layered title for me. It's about um addressing 533 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: the fact that I'm a survivor. I think as black men, 534 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: we go outside in the world and we deal with 535 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: so much stuff and we just take it to the 536 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: chin because we just take it as a norm. And 537 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to take this moment to give myself credit 538 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: that I made it through these situations that it's not 539 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: normal the stuff we go through. Also, it's about me 540 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: addressing all the sides of myself, Like I got a 541 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: vulnerable side, I got an emotional side, I got all 542 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: these different sides that I feel like combined to make 543 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: the greatest version of myself. And like the superhero part, 544 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: that's like being an extra. But I just wanted to 545 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: give myself the greatest form of credit by calling myself 546 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: a superhero. And also to show my kid, you know 547 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that you could a superhero he could touch, 548 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: not one that's just on TV. Because really for my 549 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: kid too, so does just saying realize how famous you are. Yeah, 550 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: but he still treat me like the corny dad. His 551 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: friends treat me more famous than he do. I don't 552 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: know if he's just trying to hide it and not 553 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: made me feel cool, But I'm just dad to him, 554 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But every time we go somewhere, 555 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: people taking pictures and he get irritated. And so there's that, 556 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: but now here a little TikTok famous kids. So we 557 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: go out and he got a little TikTok. People saying, oh, 558 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: that's DJ from TikTok, And I think that's it weird 559 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: because his TikTok is him doing a little freaky faces 560 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: like singing videos. You know, litt light skin faces kids 561 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: be doing so now. In the song Stuck, you talk 562 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: about how you've been through hell and you can't hide it. 563 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: So when you are as open about these issues like 564 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: you were on this project, does it make it harder 565 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: or easier to create? Um, it's easy to create. It's 566 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: hard to be outside in the world. I think I'd 567 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: be so drawn drained emotionally from being in the studio 568 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: and being vulnerable. It's hard to be vulnerable vulnerable in person, 569 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: and that's a hard part when people want to have 570 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: deep conversations with me in person and I start shutting 571 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: down and I'm like, I did this in the studio. 572 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: Don't mean I could do this really all the time 573 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: in person. But they're creating. Part is that's my therapy 574 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: because I'll be so like confined when I'm not in 575 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: the studio. It's finally my release, so it's not really 576 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: hard to create at all. Ever, and people who probably 577 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: feel like they can relate to you, you know what 578 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, Oh, he's dealing with the same 579 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: things and just go listen to the song. I mean, 580 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: we got to talk about it all the time. When 581 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: I see you how to value to feedback from your team. 582 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: I saw you had said that when you were making 583 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: this album. They were like, Okay, this is starting to 584 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: sound too much alike the songs that you're doing. You 585 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: gotta switch it up. Is that something that you would like? 586 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: People get very defensive about their own music, So how 587 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: is that for you? I'm super sensitive about my art, 588 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: but I'm not sensitive to the people. I trust my producers. 589 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: I'm with them every day, so I trust they good. 590 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: But they also with me every day, so I know 591 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: we all could get complacent with each other. But my 592 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: manager Justice, he the most evil nigge in the world. 593 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 1: He tell me when stuff bad, he tell me when 594 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: it sucked, and I appreciate them so much for that 595 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: because it always pushed me. Sometimes I gotta be like 596 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: nigga you from Atlanta. You just got a different ear 597 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: than me. But you know a lot of times he right, 598 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: and I gotta push myself so I don't me tripping. 599 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: It's when other people who I feel like don't really 600 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: understand it or understand the culture it got stuff to say, 601 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: That's when I get irritated. But it is what it is, 602 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: white people. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. Do you communicate 603 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: with eminem about your music? Like do you send them 604 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: stuff like YO with you? Yeah? I tell him and 605 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: he always got He always tell me what he thinks 606 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: I should do, and then I've taken into consideration. Sometimes 607 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: I listen. Sometimes I don't. Do you ever be like 608 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: m you let you ever let Dre hear my ship? 609 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, just nah, I'll mean, you know, I'll be 610 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: so confused because I've never met Dre a day of 611 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: my life. Yeah, Like, so my the ego and me 612 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: be like nigga, you don't see me out here making 613 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: these moves. But that's entitled it. I know. You know 614 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It happened when it happened, if it's 615 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: supposed to happen. But it's still a thing though. You 616 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: from the West Coast, you see right next to him, 617 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: like Hendrick from the hood, Like, what's going on, man, 618 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: So what's your relationship like with Kendrick? You know, have 619 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: ya because you know, I'm thinking like y'all from the 620 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: same place with these last albums Miss Morales and the 621 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: Big Stuff in Black Superhero, y'all kind of on the 622 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: same wave length met at first, like I'm like, damn, 623 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: this nigga bigger than me. He didn't took my message. 624 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: But also I want to say, if I really care 625 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: about the message, like I spoke on with the homies, 626 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: if I really care about the message, I should appreciate 627 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: Kendrick getting in out there because if not, if I'm 628 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: just trying to hold it it's my message, then I 629 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: don't really care. But um, for one, that's my favorite rapper. Yeah, 630 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: he from my neighborhood, and I just appreciate the doors 631 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: he opened just about being himself. I never expect Kindrick 632 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: to do nothing for me. He didn't gave me opportunities 633 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: because just being letting me come around to see certain stuff, 634 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: being in the studio with him. Um so yeah, yeah not. 635 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: He not like my best friend. It's like somebody from 636 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: my neighborhood who's accessible to everybody from my neighborhood. And 637 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: you wrote on his last album. Then you write for 638 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: Summer Walker when she but that's the gang stuff. He 639 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't even think he knew till after. That's just 640 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: because you know what I'm saying. Elvr In gave me 641 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: that play Summer My Dogs. So when they came to 642 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: you and was like, hey, we need you to write 643 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: a verse for Kindrick's album, but it's for Summer, I 644 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: was like, you like a word? Okay. I thought you'd 645 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: been like what let me. You're happy to do it, 646 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: but damn you know you might want to be another 647 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: albums one hundred percent. I want to be on an album. 648 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: I was just grateful for the opportunity. You know what 649 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like that again. I don't I don't 650 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: be feeling no sense of entitled me and I'll just 651 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: be happy like when niggas give me a chance, because 652 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: I'll be so condition that nobody's gonna look out for me. 653 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: I don't trust nobody anyway, So and somebody actually give 654 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: me a chance, I'm like, Oh, it's good humans in 655 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: the world. And so I was just happy about the opportunity. 656 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Did your mom think that you were going to make 657 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: it back then when you were doing gospel wrap and 658 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: getting started with everything. Was she real supportive? My mom 659 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: had always been supportive of whatever I wanted to do. 660 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish she would have pushed me more when 661 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: I was younger, But ever since I figured out what 662 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to do in music and I had to 663 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: stay at home with her, and I knew she need 664 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: to help with rent, but she just let me record. 665 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: She always told me I was gonna make it, and 666 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: she'd be so proud of me all the time and 667 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: always calling me like, I'm so proud of you baby, 668 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: and then yeah, do you think God? Often? Dang, not 669 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: as much as I should, or I'd be so I 670 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: haven't learned how to be present for real. I'd be 671 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: so focused on where I want to be and where 672 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: I gotta get to her I feel like I'm supposed 673 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: to be. It'd be hard. And sometimes I feel like 674 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: I only talk to God when I'm going through stuff, 675 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: and I need to get better at talking to Him 676 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: in my good times. Yeah, you gotta just say it randomly, 677 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: like right now, thank you Jesus, Thank you Jesus. Bryce. 678 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm also in like church also, thank you guy. Um. 679 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: But I'm also sometimes i'd be in spiritual limbo because 680 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: like church messed me up as far as the politics 681 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: behind it and as far as like it didn't feel 682 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: like a spiritual place anymore. And then I don't know 683 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: if I want to be Christian or Muslim. You know 684 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a real thing. I need to 685 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: do my research. But right now I am in spiritual limbo. 686 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: I know I believe in a higher power. I believe 687 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: spiritual it is. That's the right term, religious limbo, because 688 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: my spirit isn't. I'm in tune. But yeah, I really 689 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: need to work on it too. Do you go to 690 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: church at Allston? No, I don't go to church anymore. 691 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Can you call it church? Can you say birch? I'm 692 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: just trying to. I don't know, I'm just trying to. 693 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm not the homies. It was funny about me. I 694 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: don't like cold Switch until I get around the homies 695 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: friend of hood. Then I started replacing all the letters. 696 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: I turned into super blood. But when I be out, 697 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't do that shit, and I don't be I 698 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: don't know how they do it so good. They can 699 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: replace any letter or like off top. Yeah, I gotta 700 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: be I got to think about that ship before and 701 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: some of it is blasphemths like you cannot say Jesus 702 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: Bryce the homies will though no yea they wow. Well 703 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: say earlier when you said either thinking about where you 704 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: feel like you should be or where you want to 705 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be, or where you want to be, 706 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: where is that the biggest rapper in the world? Um 707 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: So that's I know, comparison is like a thief of joy, 708 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: but it's hard, you know what I'm saying. I'm in 709 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: a music industry, so I know it's about the value 710 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: is based off accolades and like streams and stuff like that. 711 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, when I see Dot the biggest rapper being 712 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: from my neighborhood, It's like, Okay, I want to be 713 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: that plus more. When I'm signing the Eminem, I don't 714 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: just want to be somebody signing Eminem. I want to 715 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: be bigger than Eminem. You know what I'm saying. It's 716 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm competitive still at the end of the day. So 717 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: the competitive nature in me sometimes stops me from being present, 718 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, even though I'm grateful, Like 719 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: I know It's a lot of people would die to 720 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: be in my position. And I know I got a 721 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: super fan base that I should that I'm grateful for. 722 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: But it's hard, you know what I'm saying. You know, 723 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: it was a great about artists like yourself and Kindrick. 724 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: I feel like y'all shattering all stereotypes of what a 725 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: West Coast artist is supposed to be, you know, because 726 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: back in my day, it was the low riders and 727 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: the khaki pants and then Converse and all of that 728 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Like do you think about stuff like that? Oh? Yeah, 729 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: you know something. I used to get frustrated because it 730 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: felt like I had to get the love outside of 731 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: LA first, before LA gaming I love just because I 732 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: wasn't making traditional LA music, and then they had to 733 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: catch on like, oh we can fuck with this. He 734 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: represents us in a good way and I love I 735 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: love my home. But that's just reality. It's hard because 736 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: now we got like it's like I can't explain the 737 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: time when with our music in LA but it's just 738 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: not what I make, you know what I'm saying. So 739 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: I get it. On the song stuff you talk about 740 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: how much you do love your hood and going back, 741 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: but sometimes people will tell you it's hard because people 742 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: are jealous. Things could be dangerous when you go back. 743 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: What's that balanced like for you? I did with survivor's 744 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: guilt all the time. I don't. I go to my 745 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: neighborhood when I don't even have to, and then I 746 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: forced myself into stuff I don't have to, like conversations 747 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have no part dealing with. And that's just 748 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: because sometimes I feel like I'm reaping the benefits a 749 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: gang banging when I don't have to deal with the 750 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: kinds of it. I could go home. Why they gotta 751 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: still live in the hood when I know the industry like, 752 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: oh here blood, let's give him more streams. That's how 753 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: I feel, you know what I'm saying. I know sometimes 754 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: when I put on the red band and I get 755 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: more clicks, and so that makes me feel guilty because like, yeah, 756 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't have to do that, you know what I'm saying. 757 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: So survivor's guilt is a real thing. And I love 758 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: my neighborhood, but I know I can't take them everywhere. 759 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: It's like it's a hundred of them, one hundreds of them, 760 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's also like you 761 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: being inspired by Kendrick and that could push you, and 762 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: then there's kids looking at you that are inspired by 763 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: seeing you make it. And I also feel like sometimes 764 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: when you make it and you're able to financially help 765 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: other people, that's a benefit too. Yeah, the financial part 766 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: is tough though, because like I got a kid, I 767 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: gotta look out for first. I got people that I'm 768 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: with every every day that I got to look out for. 769 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: And it's just like if I create a culture where 770 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: I just give everybody money, just like you know, that's 771 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: when you create a foundation, and maybe it's a scholarship 772 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: thing that you do, you know annually, certain things that 773 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: you could do. It's not like you got to help 774 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: everybody and just give money. A way, but I think 775 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: I do think there's a way to go about it. Right. 776 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: My homies usually just be like I gotta give a 777 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: verse to a lot of the homie and that part 778 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: so hard to say. No, that's the tough part, because 779 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: they like, you got this platform, why you're not doing 780 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: this for me? But they understand how draining that is 781 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: and also how I got to think of my brand 782 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: if I like saturated too much about giving so many verses, 783 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: it don't hold the same weight. So sometimes they don't 784 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: understand that, and that's when I feel guilty because it's 785 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: like then I got to play the game like management said, 786 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't drop this. And time is money too, 787 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: when people have to respect the fact that you're working 788 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: all the time and you do have to get compensated 789 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not trapping, like this is how I eat, 790 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: And sometimes they don't understand that, Like it's all I got, 791 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: So me just giving your verses like crazy, when you 792 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: talk about gangbanging, it isn't gag banging, just one aspect 793 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: of being in the gang. Or you could be in 794 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: a gang and never have bang, right, Yeah, I'm just 795 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: from I'm just a game member. I don't consider myself 796 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: a game banger because I'm not the one in my 797 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: hood that's you know on that time I go over 798 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: there and I'm like either the rapper or I'm trying 799 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: to tell the homies different stuff about why they don't 800 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: got to do this. So I never tried to like 801 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: fight somebody, you know what I'm saying. It's nothing to 802 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: catch or fade, but yeah, it is different aspects of it. 803 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: We got homies like we just look at for advice 804 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: like the older homies, but we got homies who go 805 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: go take that trip, who were get in that car 806 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: and go do what they gotta do. So it is 807 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: different levels of it, but it's still fall under the 808 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: same umbrella. Yeah, and it's messed up because when you're 809 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: on the outside looking in, like looking at a place 810 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: like you know, La, and you hear people say they're 811 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: from certain places like Compton, Wi, Twitter, you just automatically 812 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: assume they're in again. Yeah, And I did like a 813 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: survey and like LA lay trying to see if everybody 814 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: knew I was a blood because I thought I did 815 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: so good at hiden it in my brain and like 816 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: finding balance, and I didn't think I ever glorified. And 817 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: I was like, when you first thinking me, what do 818 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: you think of? It was like blood? And I was like, 819 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: what blood? Who came up to? That is how much 820 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: Greek gangs different from other criminals such as organized crime groups, 821 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: motorcycle gangs, ideology groups in priving games? What the hell? 822 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah it is different gangs. The police LA is the 823 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: really the biggest gang. But yeah, yeah that's true. Um 824 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: I saw you saying an ig caption. I told myself, 825 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start celebrating all my sins. Wins we do. 826 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: But by the way, we do celebrate a lot of 827 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: our sins. We said, all my wins. So I'm proud 828 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: of you. Boogie. How much is a positive self self 829 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: talk helped you? I was capping on the Instagram post, 830 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound because I ain't gonna lie. 831 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: It's not I said. I was like, I always say 832 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do stuff, but the execution is always a 833 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: hard part. So I haven't really been hyping myself up. 834 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: I said I'm gonna do even since my album came out. 835 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: I ain't even sat down and be like, oh, but 836 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: be proud of yourself because then, like, I'm already back 837 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: in the studio trying to compete already. Are you doing 838 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: a deluxe album? Yeah, but I'm also trying to drop 839 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: work on a project to drop right after that, So 840 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: my brain is kind of like all over there. So 841 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: you don't give you so positive self talk. I haven't. 842 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start start. I promise I'm gonna start. That's 843 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: a way to come back to the anxiety, because you know, 844 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: the anxiety will tell you that whatever could go wrong 845 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: will go wrong. Anxiety you have you out here like 846 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: chicken a little the sky has fallen, so it is 847 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: good to give yourself that positive self. My anxiety is crazy. 848 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: It happens. Trust me, I did with it every day, 849 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: I tell y'all. And I know I gotta post on Instagram. 850 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: Why is that sh the comments? If you at people 851 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: like I opened myself up, it's like I opened up 852 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: the floodgates. And I also never replied to nobody on Instagram, 853 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: you like, it's I'm all, it's like an exercise. It's 854 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: of me having to be the bigger person every time 855 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: I post on Instagram. And it's just like I don't 856 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: want to have to go to that exercise every time. 857 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: And you really don't tweet either, Nah. They told me 858 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: to start tweeting worrow. It used to be like a 859 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: good tweeter. You know what I'm saying. I'm pretty good, 860 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm pretty funny. But it's just like it's not good 861 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: for your mental health. Man. It's hard. It's hard, but 862 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: I ain't know, bitch, I'm about to get back on 863 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: it because I'm not gonna let y'all punk me up. 864 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: Social What about vacations. Do you go on vacation. I've 865 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: never been on a vacation everever. Nope. I went to 866 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: my manager birthday last year, the dr, but I ended 867 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: up stopping arguments between drum and other people. But I said, 868 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: dr name, I'm so funny. Shout out my boy drum. 869 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: He's doing an album too. That's my boy, Shelley Shell. 870 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: That's my brother. The name Shelley. Now he changed the 871 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: name Shelley Shelley FKA Drum. Still say it's drum on 872 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: your album it says Shelley FKA Drum. No, it did not. 873 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: On title it said just feature Shelly Man. Look, let 874 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: me see tim push ups ups. Let me see how 875 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: the West Side they did that? What's up? Let me 876 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: get to tell out of that ten King King cho 877 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: one two? Are you doing him right? For five? Six 878 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: nine ten? I write good money, good money, good money, 879 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: good money, nicely and you hired to you just I 880 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: literally hate losing that stuff. So listen, what about a 881 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: vacation though, I think maybe it's time for that, and 882 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: you can take your son going. He gonna piss me 883 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: off in the first he could stay home. I need 884 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: a vacation from him. Too, but you should. Yeah. So, 885 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: but I ain't got no joint I want to bring 886 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: right now. You never went on vacation with your ex. Nah, 887 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: that's probably another reason flew around real quickly for Hawaii 888 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: right there. I know, man, I'll be torn. I'm I was. 889 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: I'm a like starving artist, bro, I'm you know what 890 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Sometimes I feel like I don't got the 891 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: lecture even on to afford the vacation. You could probably 892 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: get a free vacation too on me just finesse it. No, yeah, 893 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: you definitely couldn't be like we just need to do 894 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: a post. Yeah. I just start figuring out I could 895 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: do that. In La it was a bowling alley and 896 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: I used my name and they let me in and 897 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, I could finesse my name. 898 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: You definitely could get a resort to comp that, and 899 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: they just you know, and yeah, yeah, we definitely could 900 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: set that up. What made you want to put Soldier Boy? 901 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: Can't even lie because you got Soldier actually rapping. I 902 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: was trying to be funny at first in the studio 903 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: with the homies, I was like, Yo, this give me 904 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: Soldier Boy energy. I was just with my producers. Then 905 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: I text my manager like the idea. I'm like, I 906 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: know this sound crazy, but what if. Then he told 907 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: me Soldier Boy price and we paid we got the verse. Wow, 908 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: bad you give that boy that, Brad, you get it. 909 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, money talk. Shout out to 910 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: Big Soldier because he gave me a good verse and 911 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm happy for that. Yeah, he's rapping. You got actually rapping. 912 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: Shout out to Big Soldier bomped and Soldier Boy. All right, 913 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 1: Oh y'all claim his bombay man, it's whatever he say 914 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: that too. That we talked about price because I saw 915 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: the other day NBA Young Boy Game was talking about 916 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: well Whack was talking about it and Game was talking 917 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: about it. But getting charged to do a verse. That's 918 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: not offensive, right when you know you deserve a certain 919 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: price too. Yeah, everybody got to eat. Sometimes it'd be swap, 920 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: but it only it got to be beneficial. Everybody don't 921 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: want to do a swap because they ain't going your 922 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: VERSI of their project. They just want some bread. Yeah, 923 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I get it. Snoop, I'm 924 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: sure that that felt like a writer passage in a way. 925 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: Right to get Snoop on Did I love Snoop because 926 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 1: he's so accessible to all the like good LA artists 927 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: or even like as long as you like passionate about it, 928 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: you could find a way to get to Snoop And 929 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: I d M him and he gave me two verses 930 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: like in two days and I appreciate Big Snoop and 931 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: he got on your wave with this album. He's talking 932 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: about meditation and everything. Yeah, Big Snoop side of Tall 933 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: windows down, window rolled down, Yep, I don't even know 934 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: the name of the Windows down smokes too much weed. 935 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: Do you respond as your fans when they hit you up, 936 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: because I'm sure you've influenced a lot of them because 937 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: you've been so open about everything you've gone through and 938 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: therapy and how you're trying to heal. Yeah, I do 939 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: reply as much as I can. Um, it's just hard, though. 940 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna start going on a lot more 941 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: to have like conversations with them, to be more like 942 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: intimate with them, because they did wait a long time 943 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: for me to drop an album, and I don't want 944 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: to just disappear like off into the abyss. So I'm 945 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: gonna try to do better at talking to them. You 946 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: say you're working on your next album. If your next album, 947 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: you know, if if the gods are telling you a man, 948 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: continue to talk about what it is you're talking about, 949 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: continue to talk about healing, continue to talk about growth. 950 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 1: Are you going to fight that? Definitely gonna. I don't 951 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: mean I'm not gonna do it, but I'm definitely gonna 952 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: fight it. Why man, if it's real, it's real, I'm conditioning, bro, 953 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm from a name, I'm from a gang. I'm like, 954 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't know's I said one thing, I'm about to 955 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: make it something. It's layered and I'm from a gang 956 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: and then it ended. But it's just hard. I don't know. 957 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: Why can't you do both? Why can't you say, Hey, 958 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: if the spirit moves you to write a record like this, 959 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: right it if moving to right recor this dude? If 960 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: you if you want to do it the same song, 961 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: why not, I'm just choosing to be ignorant. I'm gonna 962 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: do it. Man, I'm gonna keep talking about I know 963 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: the responsibility I got now. Um not just that I 964 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: spoke on therapy. This is the fact that I'm aware. Um, 965 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: so I gotta move better and I'm always gonna move better. 966 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: Well hopefully I am. And well, listen, we're all the 967 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: perfect balance of ratchetness and righteousness blood at you know 968 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 1: what I mean. Did any of the girls stopped talking 969 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: to you from your birthday party the other night? Yeah? 970 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: I just tried to say hi to all of them 971 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: the next day and it's over. I really, my roster's done. 972 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: For roster right now? Is gonna even make it more worse? 973 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: How many of you had bro No, it wasn't like that. 974 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: It was like, like, like, because the hard part is right, 975 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: people try to wait it out to see to the end, 976 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: like who's leaving with him? I know? And that's what 977 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: the crazy part, because girls started hanging around. Let me 978 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: tell you. I got home that night, right, so I 979 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna be smart and this and not 980 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: go home with none of these bitches. You know what 981 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm so sorry, see perfect balance. Apologize because 982 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: that wasn't cool at all. You're working progress, but um, 983 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: these women and I got home and one of them 984 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: was sitting in my room at four in the morning 985 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: waiting to catch me up with another girl, and I like, 986 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: one of the most scariest things, And I was like, 987 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: you can't really, you can't play with these people feelings. 988 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: How get your room. I left my door unlocked like 989 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: an idiot, and people like some people know all be 990 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,959 Speaker 1: leaving my door unlocked because I'm just be being lazy. 991 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: So she knew that, and she was in my room 992 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: waiting for me. But it was like seven girls there, 993 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: but none of them is my girlfriends. So I don't 994 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: know why he was acting like that. You have a 995 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: name like the Westside Boogears or no, man, I don't. 996 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not proud of this. She had to 997 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: go home because like she was. She told me I 998 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: was being disrespectful. She was just like, why would you 999 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: invite me if you're gonna have these other girls there? 1000 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: Blah blah this, And I said, I actually didn't invite you. 1001 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: My assistern invited you. I didn't know you was coming. 1002 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: And I also felt like I didn't hug on none 1003 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 1: of them at the party. I stayed around the homies. 1004 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: So it was just her intuition. Because some other dude 1005 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: text me after the party, some singer. He was like, 1006 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know you a pimp, 1007 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, how I didn't talk to none 1008 00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: of them girls. I was up there see you all 1009 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: girls texting you. It ain't no way. You're still a 1010 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: bitch ass nigga and you being tetry. See man, I 1011 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, ain't gonna make some much saying 1012 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: that that was a bad idea. It was because there's 1013 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: no because if you invite a girl like your assistant, 1014 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: does they think that they're the one that's coming. That's 1015 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: why they got invited. Like OK, but just say that. 1016 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 1: But if we never had no conversation before that about 1017 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: us being a relationship, right, just about it being exclusive, 1018 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: about none of that, your expectations, like you can't put 1019 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: that on me, then I got to deal with the 1020 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: guilt after because of your expectations. That's crazy too. So 1021 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have been mad if they would have talked 1022 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 1: to somebody else at the party, since you guys, dang, 1023 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: I would have been pissed because it works because I 1024 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: actually did that drunk shit. I remember saying one of 1025 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: the things to one of the girls, like you bet 1026 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: I do no dumb shit up here? Yeah I was. 1027 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: I was being toxic now I think about it. Your therapists, 1028 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure to talk to you about choices or boichus. 1029 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how you would pronounce that right, but 1030 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: you got to replace two season that. Yes, but you 1031 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: made a choice, so those girls would have cut up 1032 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: in that party, I would have been your fault. It 1033 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: is my fault. Why no, no, no, no no, you 1034 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: all that energy in your life. You're right. I didn't 1035 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: invite all of them, though my assistant invited like majority 1036 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: of them. Why would they do that? You knew who 1037 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: was invited though you know it was on the list. 1038 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: Now I didn't. I didn't know who was on that list. 1039 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: I just pulled up to It was a party for me. 1040 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: I didn't pay attention to RSVP. I just let my 1041 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: assistant do her thing, you know what I'm saying. And 1042 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: so now I'm starting to realize that line was probably 1043 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: based on a true story. A woman actually told you 1044 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: that all this stuff is real. That's came from a 1045 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: real thing. That definitely came from a real woman that 1046 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: said that not hurt specifically, but a real experience. And 1047 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: there's no judgment for you now when you date right 1048 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: like you said that, you don't want to have to 1049 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: pass judgment on these women based off their past or 1050 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: things that they've done. Yeah, I don't judge. I don't judge. 1051 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: I just can't talk to women who dated my peers. 1052 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: Not like I judge them because because of that, but 1053 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: I just don't want to like, you know what I'm saying, 1054 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: you dated Jid or like sme, no niggas I got 1055 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: to see all the time. I don't. I'm cool. Yeah, 1056 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: you can't wipe you. I can't wipe. But what's dated? 1057 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: Like what if they just if the homies hit I'm cool? 1058 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: Do you ask those questions? Do you ask her? If 1059 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: they just had kind of asked the homies, I'd be like, 1060 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: have you dated any rappers? That's my question? What if 1061 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: they just had FaceTime conversations that never FaceTime conversation, nottime conversation. 1062 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: But if somebody smacked or like you know what I'm saying, 1063 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: or you game head, or what if he just gave 1064 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: her head munch um, that's funny, that's cool. I ain't 1065 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna problem. Yeah, I got a problem with that. I 1066 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: don't know. That's kind of wow. Bro, your homie be like, yo, 1067 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, I ht your girl out, You're right then 1068 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: passing you to blunt. That is kind of crazy. Actually, yeah, 1069 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 1: any type of sexual like thing. I'm cool, oh man, listen. 1070 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: More Black Superheroes is out right now, Sir, west Side Bookie, 1071 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: support this project. I love what you're doing. Appreciate what 1072 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I love the fact that you are on 1073 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: your healing journey and you're expressing it through your music. 1074 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: They see how far away I am on my healing journey. 1075 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: You know, you're right, you need You have a lot 1076 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: of contradictory things going on in your head, but that's 1077 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: how we all are. Ain't no mile markers on that 1078 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: on that on that road, that healing lu They said, 1079 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: I was supposed to turn it in two days, but 1080 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: I have not got it done. So maybe next week 1081 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn it in. So maybe they come out 1082 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 1: like they can't help you. You not say to date. 1083 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: They don't want you to miss it. What's up? Oh man? 1084 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: What's up? Boogie? More Black Superheroes out now? Thank you 1085 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: for coming. You're having me for a for all that, sir, 1086 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.