S1: My name is Ben Greenfield and on this episode of
S1: the Ben Greenfield Life podcast. But then we.
S2: Work also with so-called molecular frequencies. Those are frequencies derived
S2: from literally physical substances. It could be a healing plan,
S2: it could be something like frankincense, or it could be supplements. Right.
S2: So if, for example, we have the so-called bio base frequency, right.
S2: That's one of the frequencies that a lot of professional
S2: athletes actually use in combination with their quantum upgrade when
S2: they have a competition or tough practice, because it is, um, basically,
S2: I think almost 80 different vitamins, minerals and organic plant
S2: extracts that are super vital for the human body. And
S2: and that's the information of it. So frequency is the
S2: same as information. Right. And so if you ingest a
S2: vitamin C pill, for example, what ends up in the
S2: core of the cell is not the physical substance of
S2: the vitamin C, it's actually just the information of the
S2: vitamin C. So with so-called frequency medicine you can bypass that.
S2: And you can make that information available to the cells
S2: without ingesting something.
S1: Faith, family, fitness, health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral living, biohacking
S1: and a whole lot more. Welcome to the show. RF folks.
S1: So I think I've mentioned this on the podcast a
S1: couple of times, like mysteriously alluded to it, but I
S1: recently had, uh, somebody reached out to me and asked
S1: me if I'd ever tried this thing called a quantum
S1: upgrade on my home. And, uh, unfortunately, I had not.
S1: I hadn't even heard of it or didn't understand what
S1: it was. Still don't fully understand what it is, which
S1: is why I'm recording this podcast episode for you. But
S1: what I did was I went to a website and
S1: I selected all these different frequencies to bombard my home
S1: and my body, and I had I selected one of
S1: the things I think was my phone with as a
S1: part of this so-called quantum upgrade, these invisible energies that
S1: are somehow delivered to me and my abode from afar.
S1: I know this is sounding super duper like something that
S1: would wind up on the Skeptic Quack website, but just
S1: stick with me here because it's really interesting. The day
S1: I flipped it on, I couldn't sleep the next two days,
S1: had total insomnia, couldn't sleep at all, woke up on
S1: the third day, went and turned the thing off on
S1: my computer browser and meaning I logged into my quantum
S1: upgrade account, turned it off, and then the next night
S1: I slept and I thought, huh, that's interesting. So I
S1: went back to the website and I turned it back on.
S1: But I chose slightly lower frequencies, like less powerful frequencies
S1: than I had the first few days. And not only
S1: did I sleep fine, but I had really good energy
S1: and recovery and even like better mood during the day.
S1: So after I ran it for like a week, I
S1: went back in and turned the frequencies back up and
S1: didn't experience any disruption of sleep. And I thought, gosh,
S1: there's got to be something going on here, possibly more
S1: than just a placebo effect. So I've talked about these
S1: these like invisible quantum energies before on the show. Actually
S1: with today's guest, we recorded a podcast like a year ago,
S1: and it was about this company called Leela Quantum Tech.
S1: And they produce these devices that you can use, for example,
S1: on your body, like the necklace that everybody always asks
S1: me what I'm wearing in my in my YouTube videos.
S1: I'll pull the necklace out here. It looks like this
S1: weird cylindrical object full of capsules. And I actually have
S1: a question for today's podcast guest about it later on. Uh,
S1: but but I wear this necklace and I've got, like,
S1: their hat and their shirt, uh, that and the jacket
S1: that I wear on airplanes. And I've got the, the
S1: panel in my car and the panel up in my
S1: kitchen for doing things like charging food and charging water.
S1: We had a really interesting show where we talked about
S1: a lot of that. It was called How to charge
S1: any object in your home or your body with healing frequencies.
S1: And we even talk about how some of these things,
S1: these things can be used for, uh, for EMF protection.
S1: So my guest on today's show, uh, has a horrifically
S1: difficult name to pronounce. Uh, it's Philippe Von Holtz and
S1: dwarf failing. Philippe. Did I get that even close to correct?
S2: Absolutely perfect. With a difficult last.
S1: Oh my gosh, for sure.
S2: The first name would rather be Philip and not the
S2: French way, but it doesn't matter. You know, I, I
S2: still know who you're talking to, whether it's Philip, Philippe, Philip.
S2: It's all good. Yeah.
S1: Okay. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna go with Phil. Phil?
S1: Phil with two PS so, uh, Philippe founded Leela quantum
S1: tech and quantum upgrade. Uh, he's a coach. He's an entrepreneur.
S1: And as we discussed in our last podcast, he's really
S1: done a deep dive into these so-called energy fields and
S1: energy healing modalities that go far beyond some of the
S1: things you might be able to visualize or, or the
S1: things that were trained in classically in physics. Uh, he
S1: is a biohacker. He's a Kundalini yoga teacher. He's a
S1: father of two. He's even made it to the top
S1: eight in the tennis senior US nationals and competes in
S1: tennis tournaments as well. So I'm going to link to
S1: everything we talk about, which again, I realize is some
S1: pretty far fetched stuff, but we're going to tackle it anyways.
S1: If you go to Ben Greenfield life com slash quantum
S1: upgrade just like it sounds Ben Greenfield life com slash
S1: quantum upgrade. So uh Phil this this is going to
S1: be a fun one. I always get all sorts of
S1: questions about these invisible healing energies and all sorts of
S1: raised eyebrows as well. So are you ready for this?
S2: Yes, absolutely.
S1: Okay. All right. By the way, do you still play
S1: much tennis? Because that's like the near and dear sport
S1: to my heart. My family and I still play like
S1: 2 or 3 times a week.
S2: Well, we got to meet and play then at some point.
S2: And so about a year and a half ago, I had, um,
S2: hurt my calf really bad. I'm playing tennis, actually. And
S2: then I stopped playing for a month and a half,
S2: and then I actually ended up not playing for way
S2: over a year. Um, just because I had so much
S2: to do, so much work. And we were traveling a lot.
S2: But now I've picked it back up again and I
S2: want to play nationals again next year. So that's that's
S2: one of the reasons I'm like, okay, every five years
S2: I'm going to do nationals if I still feel like it.
S2: And yeah, I'm really getting back into it, actually. I'm
S2: going to play a tennis tournament this weekend. It's going
S2: to be my first tennis tournament after a very long time,
S2: and I'm looking forward to that. I'm not really so
S2: much into competing anymore, rather, you know, showing myself what
S2: I'm still capable of.
S1: Well, where do you live? What city?
S2: Uh, near Santa Fe in New Mexico.
S1: Okay. Have you caught up in the US pickleball craze
S1: at all?
S2: Not really. No, no.
S1: Okay, well, pickleball is kind of like the baby version
S1: of tennis. It's a little bit more fast moving and explosive,
S1: but that's kind of the craze up around here. And
S1: I still play pickleball a couple times a week now
S1: as well. And then there's another sport that you as
S1: a European are probably familiar with. This one is the
S1: sport of paddle, which is kind of my latest infatuation.
S1: When I can hunt down a paddle court, it's kind
S1: of like racquetball meets squash meets pickleball. Have you played
S1: that one at all?
S2: I actually have. Yeah, and I have played pickleball once,
S2: but it's a long time ago. And in our club, actually,
S2: they do have a pickleball court, actually a few pickleball courts.
S2: So it's picking up. And when we lived in Memphis
S2: for eight years, I played a ton of tennis, but
S2: there was already a pickleball. You know, I'm like, okay,
S2: I'll get into that probably. But for now, I'm focusing
S2: on tennis when I have the time to do something.
S1: So have you embedded any invisible healing quantum energies into
S1: your tennis racket?
S2: Well, a good question. I actually indeed charged it with
S2: our block technology and it's made a difference. We've we've
S2: tried it with shoes and now the the latest and
S2: greatest and we'll get into that. I want to talk
S2: too much about it right now. But the quantum upgrade
S2: is the way to go. Actually, if you have a
S2: tennis match going on and we'll get into that. Okay.
S1: Oh yes. Yes we will for sure. How the heck
S1: do you charge up a tennis racket? One of your
S1: quantum blocks, like like mine, is big enough to put
S1: like a giant coffee mug in, but there's no way
S1: I could put a tennis racket in there.
S2: Yeah. So first of all, I'm going to ask you
S2: if you want to have our grand blog, because that's
S2: the new invention. That's that. That one is 15 by
S2: 15 by 15in. And it's the most powerful block we've
S2: created so far. And I'll be happy to send you one,
S2: because you can put full salad bowls in there and
S2: big plates, you know, and it's just really cool. And
S2: with that it's very easy also to charge a tennis racket.
S1: I know everybody's always wished they had a quantum block
S1: for charging up their salad bowl. Another tennis racket. Tell
S1: people who didn't hear the first podcast with the quantum
S1: block is.
S2: Yeah. So the block technology that we invented and developed
S2: is really a breakthrough because it we were able to
S2: harness and concentrate pure natural quantum energy, um, into these plates.
S2: So when you have a block, you can, you know,
S2: if anyone sees this here, you'll see it. If not,
S2: if you don't see anything, then it's about eight by
S2: eight by eight inches block with three plates on the
S2: top and three plates on the bottom, or one on
S2: the top, one on the bottom. And in between there
S2: you have a super concentrated, um, energy field, quantum energy
S2: field that is 100% natural because it's the very same
S2: energy that we have in each of our cells. That's
S2: how the cells communicate. And so that's kind of like
S2: the breakthrough now because the field is there when the
S2: blocks are assembled, you can leverage that, um, sort of
S2: like a battery. And, and if you, you know, has
S2: lots of different applications. So just, just the field itself,
S2: if you don't do anything with it, it harmonizes all
S2: emfs in a pretty large radios, for example. Um, and
S2: it's been scientifically shown and I don't know, I mean,
S2: probably over 20 studies by now and with various different
S2: testing methods. You know, you can neutralize and harmonize other, uh,
S2: destructive or harmful frequencies, whether that's in food or in water.
S2: You know, like the Emoto Institute showed that, um, and
S2: you can you can even copy frequencies. You can charge
S2: other objects. Like, we just talked about the tennis racket.
S2: You could charge your shoes with it and all that
S2: kind of stuff, your silverware. There's there's really no limit
S2: to it. And yeah, that's it in a nutshell. It's
S2: really pure natural quantum energy. There's nothing artificial that's very
S2: important to understand. It's something that, you know, quantum energy
S2: is everywhere. Um, but it's not there usually in such
S2: a high concentration. And things like emfs, for example, they
S2: tend to suck quantum energy out of objects, and they
S2: sort of do that with us humans as well, where
S2: we get depleted of that, uh, quantum energy that we
S2: need to live. Um, and, you know, we need water
S2: to live as well. And if you get drained of water,
S2: obviously at some point you'll feel sick. Right? That's that's
S2: pretty much the same thing. And we'll get more into that.
S2: But that's in a nutshell, what we develop.
S1: Uh, you might need to explain this to me and
S1: my listeners, uh, like you'd explain it to a sixth grader.
S1: When you say quantum energy, what do you mean by that?
S2: Well, so. I think we all understand. Maybe the six
S2: year olds may not yet understand, but they'll they'll be
S2: able to read about it that we're about 90% water. Right?
S2: But we think of ourselves as ourselves, as solid. And
S2: we we feel that all the time. But we're still 90% water.
S2: But then behind even water and all the other matter,
S2: there's energy, right? There's call it empty space. That's about
S2: actually 99%. So we're we're 99% empty space.
S1: Do you mean, by the way, like this idea? I
S1: think Paul Check was the first guy who used this
S1: analogy with me that like, if I put my hand
S1: down on a solid table, technically there's billions and billions
S1: of empty spaces in between all the atoms that make
S1: up that solid table. So I'm putting my hand on
S1: a bunch of atoms, but technically it's it's not really
S1: solid from like a quantum standpoint. It's just a bunch
S1: of closely packed atoms with more space than we're really
S1: aware of in between each of those atoms, because it's
S1: on such a small microscopic level.
S2: Yeah, that's definitely a way to explain that. And what's important, though,
S2: is that the the so-called empty space isn't really empty
S2: because there's energy in it. There's quantum energy. It's it's
S2: literally below subatomic. You can think of it like that. And,
S2: and that's kind of the key because then. The positive
S2: changes that can be promoted. You know, happened on this
S2: most fundamental level and then can ripple through into the physical,
S2: you know, whether that's blood that optimizes or your heart rate,
S2: the things start to get these signals to become in
S2: order again and to also move to, to its or
S2: his her optimal potential. Because it's really not just about humans,
S2: it really is about, um, animals. And and it's also
S2: plans actually, you know, I don't know if anyone will
S2: be able to watch this here, but if you want,
S2: I'll show you anybody.
S1: You want to see the video version, just go to
S1: Ben Greenfield life.com/quantum upgrade or YouTube or whatever. You can
S1: see the video version. So go ahead.
S2: So I'll show you this right now so you'll be
S2: able to see this. This is like way bigger than
S2: my head. And you know what this is. This is
S2: a beat. This is a beat out of our quantum greenhouse.
S2: And it's ridiculous. Holy cow. Yeah, it is absolutely huge.
S2: It tastes amazing. And I just wanted to show you
S2: because it's it really also helps plants because plants and
S2: animals also just if you just take EMF for example,
S2: they're impacted as well. Right? It's not just us humans,
S2: but if you're able to harmonize that and then. Literally
S2: provide additional positive energy that helps to get into optimal
S2: form and optimal potential. Then that's what happens. So you
S2: have plants that grow faster and grow better. You have
S2: dogs that feel better. And with the humans, obviously we'll
S2: get into the research because literally 99% or 98% of
S2: the research that has been done so far has been
S2: actually with with actual human test subjects, which is interesting. Um,
S2: I think, but it really is, is helpful for any
S2: physiological organism.
S1: Okay, let's back this up a step, because we went
S1: from trying to define what quantum energy is to the
S1: claim that it's helpful for plants and humans, etc.. But
S1: I guess the missing step for me is you explain
S1: quantum energy and that we have all of this energetic
S1: space in between all the atoms occurring on like a
S1: subatomic atomic level. But how are you actually manipulating that space?
S1: Does that make sense? Like, like, are you doing something
S1: to convert or somehow change the, I suppose, what you
S1: would call the vibrations or the vibrational frequencies of all these,
S1: of all these particles or the energy in between each
S1: of these particles.
S2: Mhm. Good question. So and I won't be able to
S2: give a complete answer to that because that's really the
S2: only secret source that we don't really share. But to
S2: just give you at least a little bit about it,
S2: you know, we're not manipulating it. And it's we're also
S2: not doing anything to the quantum field itself because the,
S2: the pure quantum energy and the nature of it, that's
S2: its nature. We're not doing anything with that. So that's
S2: really the nature of it to to harmonize and neutralize
S2: anything that's destructive or harmful for life and consciousness. So
S2: that's really what it does. And we didn't do that.
S2: It's that is just nature, right? What we did is
S2: we found a mechanism to actually pull this energy into
S2: such a concentrated form, which we did with a bunch
S2: of super gifted healers and a team of scientists together.
S2: And now I have to leave you just with that
S2: picture on how we do that and the exact method
S2: on how we do that. I won't share because that's
S2: that's really just a, um, an amazing recipe on how
S2: we do that. And, you know, it's that's our secret sauce.
S2: We share everything else though, because to be honest, you know,
S2: in the past, if, uh, if people invented excellent technologies
S2: like this, you know, they would usually try to keep
S2: it just for themselves, um, or make people dependent on it.
S2: And that's exactly the opposite of what we do. We
S2: make the extension of our technology available to anyone, um, that,
S2: that once, once it wants to use it. And. Yeah.
S2: So but I can't go into more detail regarding that.
S1: All right. I won't put you into the uncomfortable position
S1: of revealing your secret sauce, but I want to talk
S1: about this a little bit more. I about ten years ago,
S1: me and my kids took this online course. It was
S1: kind of like a qigong course where we learned all
S1: sorts of different ways to increase our energetic frequency, to
S1: increase our energy using different twisting motions, and drawing giant
S1: energy balls with our hands. It was really interesting because
S1: you kind of feel your energy pick up as you
S1: engage with some of these practices, but as a part
S1: of that, we also had these glasses of kombucha. We
S1: were supposed to use brandy, but my kids were like five,
S1: so I was going to have them drink alcohol. We
S1: use kombucha and we would place our hands around these
S1: shot glasses of kombucha and imagine, I believe they were
S1: emotions like love and peace and joy. And this is
S1: kind of related to that Emoto Institute that you brought up,
S1: because people might be familiar with those water experiments where
S1: they would bombard water with prayer and positive feelings and
S1: positive frequencies or vibes, and the water seemed to somehow
S1: change its structure to be a more crystalline, uniform structure.
S1: And since then, they've also done other experiments that show
S1: that water seems to take on a more chaotic structure
S1: when exposed to words like hate or, uh, frequencies such
S1: as death metal. So it seems that somehow matter in
S1: the universe responds to the energies that that matter is
S1: exposed to. Um, you know, and by the way, am
S1: I on the right track here?
S2: 100%. And it's what you're saying is not just some
S2: thought or idea. It's really been proven over and over
S2: again where the motto Institute, Mazara motto was The pioneer
S2: and doing that. And it's absolutely true. Yes.
S1: Okay. All right. So then you actually have this this
S1: secret group, you know, the the X-Men. I think I
S1: called them in our last podcast of healers who you've
S1: identified as people who are able to manipulate these frequencies
S1: with great precision, who have been trained in the same
S1: way that, say, like a Reiki practitioner would, trained to
S1: be able to manipulate your body without necessarily touching you.
S1: You're able to harness some of the powers, so to speak,
S1: of these X-Men healers that you have in secret Batman
S1: Lab locations around the globe to actually take your devices,
S1: your clothing, your necklaces, whatever, and bombard them with the
S1: frequencies that you've chosen. And then in response to that,
S1: when the clothing is worn or when a necklace is
S1: placed around your neck, or when an object is placed
S1: in one of these blocks that produces these frequencies, it
S1: would then pass on that energetic frequency. Whichever one that
S1: has been programmed with to the recipient, the pet, the object,
S1: the salad bowl, the tennis racket, etc..
S2: Yeah. Sort of. Um, just not that. This team of
S2: gifted healers, actually, you know, among the absolute best in
S2: the world are not the ones that are just putting
S2: everything in our products that really is happening with our technology.
S2: But they would develop specific frequencies and we work because
S2: that's so one thing is really the pure natural quantum energy.
S2: And then the other one is that there's, you know,
S2: you can use all kinds of different frequencies in order
S2: to help bring a system that is out of balance
S2: into balance. And what do I mean with the system? Right.
S2: The whole body is a system on its on its own.
S2: And then you have a lot of subsystems that you
S2: have the, the heart, you know, in itself is, is
S2: this functioning system, um, you have the immune system, you
S2: have the lungs, all of that. And, and then you
S2: have your energetic system. And so if something is out
S2: of balance, you can bring it back into balance. And
S2: so there's all kinds of different frequencies that can be
S2: used for various use cases. So we have developed many
S2: different ones. And we use to some extent etheric frequencies.
S2: That's where the healers actually come in because they can
S2: literally pull the these frequencies out of the ether. And
S2: then we already know what it does, um, and what
S2: positive change it promotes. And then we go into scientific
S2: testing and can basically prove all of that scientifically. But
S2: then we work also with so-called molecular frequencies. Those are
S2: frequencies derived from literally physical substances. It could be a
S2: healing plan. It could be something like frankincense or it
S2: could be supplements. Right. So if, for example, we have
S2: the so-called bio base frequency, right. That's one of the
S2: frequencies that a lot of professional athletes actually use, um,
S2: in combination with their quantum upgrade, when they have a
S2: competition or tough practice, because it is, um, basically, I
S2: think almost 80 different vitamins, minerals and organic plant extracts
S2: that are super vital for the human body. And and
S2: that's the information of it. So frequency is the same
S2: as information. Right. And so if you ingest a vitamin
S2: C pill, for example, what ends up in the core
S2: of the cell is not the physical substance of the
S2: vitamin C, it's actually just the information of the vitamin C.
S2: So with so-called frequency medicine you can bypass that. And
S2: you can make that information available to the cells without
S2: ingesting something. And we can get into that because it's
S2: not like 100% equal at this point. Maybe that actually
S2: changes in the future. But but it for at least 90%
S2: of the people, it works better when they take physical supplements.
S2: They can then also reduce supplementation noticeably actually. And then
S2: for 5 to 10% of the people, they can actually
S2: maintain optimal mineral and vitamin levels. If they just take
S2: in the frequencies and they don't even need supplementation anymore.
S2: But for whatever reason, that's just a smaller group of people.
S2: So it's pretty cool actually, to work with molecular frequencies.
S1: Have you actually tested that, like if vitamin D vibrates
S1: at a specific frequency and someone were to use some
S1: type of technology, like one of your technologies, to bombard
S1: their bodies with that same vitamin D frequency, have you
S1: actually done testing to show like blood increases in, uh,
S1: hydroxy vitamin D or anything like that?
S2: We have not yet done any tests specifically to very
S2: specific supplementation, but there have been blood tests even in
S2: regards to broader, um, supplementation via frequencies. So we're talking
S2: literally what what you're wearing is the so-called heal capsule, right? Um, uh,
S2: if I'm not.
S1: Mistaken, you mean. Yep. Okay. Yep.
S2: And so that also contains besides some, you know. Self-healing powers,
S2: activating frequencies that also contains those almost 80 minerals and
S2: and vitamins and frequency form. Right. So. Those tests were done,
S2: but it was broad spectrum basically, and it was not
S2: targeted on just vitamin D. But that's really interesting. And
S2: we're very busy actually with research. That's the most we
S2: focus on, on research. So I'll add that to the list,
S2: because that would indeed be cool if we just focus
S2: on one, uh, one of the supplements.
S1: Um, what did you actually test was something like these
S1: broad based frequencies. What are you actually looking at?
S2: So that was people that were tested with the blood. And, um,
S2: you looked at the optimal vitamin and mineral levels and
S2: what mineral environmental levels they had, and then they just
S2: used the capsule and stopped taking any supplementation whatsoever over
S2: multiple month. And they were, um, tested, I think, three
S2: times in a row. And they still maintain optimal vitamin
S2: and mineral levels.
S1: Oh, okay. All right. But you don't you don't you
S1: don't know, like which vitamins or minerals went up. You're
S1: just saying like across the board. Their blood markers kind
S1: of improved when they were using these broad based frequencies
S1: that covered whatever you said, like 80 different vitamins and
S1: minerals or whatever.
S2: Well. So I mean that the blood improves. That's another topic.
S2: That 100% is the case regardless. But in this specific case,
S2: it was really looked at the vitamin and mineral levels. Right.
S2: And they maintain that's what I was referring to. So
S2: vitamin and mineral levels. Yes they maintained those but but
S2: important again if someone just joined. So. From our experience,
S2: that happens only with about 5 to 10% of the people.
S2: For the rest of the people, what happens is that
S2: the bioavailability of such substances increases significantly when you use
S2: the frequencies, and that you would still take supplementation. But
S2: then over some time, you'll notice that you can actually
S2: reduce the intake. And once you take them, you'll actually
S2: have a greater impact. So that's kind of what it does.
S2: And we we don't know 100% why that actually is.
S2: But but our assumption at this point is from all
S2: we've seen, that if you have the the pure information
S2: of these substances, you know, these vitamins and minerals available
S2: to your cells, your cells, basically, um, are they recognize
S2: that in a different way than before. And so the
S2: cells can suddenly absorb these substances in a better way.
S2: So that's that's pretty much how we think about it.
S1: I've never really been able to do any specific blood
S1: and biomarker based testing when wearing the necklace or the
S1: code or the hat, or using the block, or this
S1: new quantum upgrade for the home or for the body
S1: that we'll talk a little bit more about. But I
S1: do know that something's going on because I can't sleep
S1: very well when I have the necklace on, it gives
S1: me too much energy. And like I alluded to in
S1: the introduction, I had insomnia for three days when I
S1: first turned on the quantum upgrade, and I can't explain
S1: exactly why, but something definitely changes from an energetic standpoint
S1: when I'm using this stuff and I read a book
S1: you're no doubt familiar with it by David Hawkins called
S1: I think Power Versus Force was the name of the book,
S1: and I believe it's in that title. Although he has
S1: several books in which he outlines how there's some frequencies
S1: that are much higher in terms of their vibration frequencies,
S1: like peace and love and joy. And then other frequencies
S1: would vibrate at a much lower frequency and be almost
S1: energy depleting rather than energy bestowing, like anger or fear
S1: or shame. And that was interesting when I read it again,
S1: based on some of these experiments that you've seen with
S1: people or objects or water getting exposed to positive versus
S1: negative emotions, and there being a distinct physical change that
S1: can be observed microscopically in terms of the crystalline ordered
S1: or the chaotic configuration of those molecules when exposed to
S1: these frequencies. But one question that I have for you
S1: is when you're looking at frequencies or you're looking at
S1: quantum fields, is there a way to actually measure, like,
S1: could I take vitamin D or a tennis racket, or
S1: a mug of tea or my body or whatever? And
S1: actually measure the frequencies, or even like a specific cell,
S1: like a heart cell, like, can that actually be measured
S1: in terms of like, I don't know, Hertz frequencies or
S1: some other sort of physical unit?
S2: Well, you can measure Hertz frequencies. What you cannot measure
S2: is quantum energy. Not yet though. I hope that within
S2: the next 5 to 7 years we'll be able to
S2: do that. But science in that regard really plays catch
S2: up at this moment, because there's no, no physical tool
S2: with which you can measure the quantum field. For example.
S2: Also with our blogs, you can't do that, but you
S2: can still calibrate it on the so-called Hawkins scale that
S2: Hawkins developed. Right. And by the way, our products, they
S2: they calibrate higher on the Hawking scale, by far and
S2: large than any other product out there in the world.
S2: And that is not even a it's absolutely significant. And.
S2: But there's no no physical instrument yet. In order to
S2: do that, we hope that maybe we'll develop one. But, um,
S2: hopefully also someone else that we don't need to do
S2: that work. But what you can do besides calibrating on
S2: the Hawkins scale, you measure the effect. So and that's
S2: relatively easy to do because. So for example, if you
S2: have this block, you can measure your state of being
S2: in various different methods before. And then if you put
S2: your hands in there, you measure it after. And you
S2: could use a heart rate variability test you could use. Um,
S2: blood tests, you know, life blood analysis. You put it
S2: under a microscope, for example. I'm happy to get more
S2: into that. You can actually now and this is very
S2: exciting about the quantum upgrade. I don't even know if
S2: you've you've heard about that yet, but there have been
S2: randomized double blind studies showing that even over distance with
S2: the quantum upgrade, uh, we've been able to increase ATP
S2: production in human cells by 20 to 25%, which is
S2: absolutely massive. I mean, you can do maybe these ten,
S2: 11 things all together with all kinds of different supplementation
S2: and all of that, and then maybe get it up 20%,
S2: maybe 25%. But you have to do all these 11
S2: things all at the same time. And then if you're lucky,
S2: you get that. And with this, you basically click on
S2: a button and you get it right away. So and
S2: wound healing and I and Mitchell says hi here. Um,
S2: because he actually, um, supported.
S1: I mean, I and Mitchell, the, the scientist who has
S1: that wizard scientist company. He's been on my podcast before.
S2: Exactly. Yes. So, um, um, so there's a professor, uh,
S2: the university lab that has been doing wound healing and
S2: ATP cell studies since over 20 years. And that's pretty
S2: much all he focuses on in the lab at the
S2: university lab. And so ion, um, has been helping him
S2: with some of the experiments. And there were two wound
S2: healing studies now with actual human cells. And it was shown.
S2: So how it works is that the cells get scratched
S2: with the laser basically. And then you have a control
S2: group that's not charged. And then you have a group
S2: of cells that is charged, um, and then it's done
S2: in a way where the one leading the experiment has
S2: no clue which is actually charged, so that it is
S2: double blinded. And they were able to show a 100%
S2: increase and acceleration in wound healing. So basically all the
S2: charged cells healed twice as fast as the other ones,
S2: which is quite massive. And, you know, in order to
S2: so for the professor to go out and um, and,
S2: and put his name behind that, he's always saying, well,
S2: this is just such crazy stuff, right? Because it's just
S2: with a brain very hard to understand how this how
S2: this can work. Right. But I mean, he's a believer
S2: now because he's seen three ATP studies now. He's seen
S2: that wound healing study. But still they repeated the wound
S2: healing study just, uh, recently just to have it done again.
S2: And it again showed an over 85% acceleration in wound healing.
S2: And it may have been actually 100% because. It actually
S2: healed overnight. And when they came back in the morning
S2: to take the next measurement, they didn't take any overnight.
S2: It was already healed. So at this point, um. It's
S2: somewhere between 85 to a little bit over 100%. Uh,
S2: where the acceleration happens, which is quite massive. And so
S2: you can test all these things. There's a lot of
S2: other tests that can be done, um, and that have
S2: been done already. So that's very easy to do.
S1: Now, how did the cells that were healing faster get charged?
S1: What'd you use?
S2: That's the quantum upgrade system. So we basically so, you know,
S2: like you do it with your home, for example, or
S2: your phone. Right. We have this publicly available now for
S2: cell cultures. We don't have that publicly available because probably
S2: no one would use it. Right. Because no one really
S2: works with cell cultures.
S1: I don't know, like it's my hobby. I got cell
S1: cultures all over my house. Yeah. And I'm not I'm
S1: not one of those people. But but I get it.
S1: As a matter of fact, I went to the website
S1: and I think I had three options at the time
S1: with whatever membership I had. So I chose, I think,
S1: my home, my car and my phone. I think those
S1: are the three like objects that I chose for this upgrade.
S1: So you're using that on these cells in cell culture.
S1: You're exposing them to these quantum frequencies, to your your
S1: secret sauce, so to speak, that you've developed with these
S1: healers by learning which frequencies work and then using technology
S1: to deliver those to different items. And that's how you
S1: notice the improvement in wound healing capability.
S2: Exactly. And so just to also distinguish between the blocks
S2: and the quantum upgrades. So the quantum upgrade is a.
S2: Is really a much further development of a blog. It
S2: starts at that technology, but it's a really huge system.
S2: It's an analog system, though, that we connected and we
S2: were able to connect and bridge with the digital front end,
S2: and indeed, so it doesn't matter where in the world
S2: you know someone is or a home is, or in
S2: this case, a petri dish or a thousand petri dishes,
S2: because they used actually a whole lot to make this
S2: statistically absolutely significant. Um, it doesn't really matter. And what
S2: some people may have heard of that the 2022 Nobel
S2: Prize was actually awarded for work on quantum entanglement. So
S2: this is not anything new or out of the ordinary
S2: that this exists and that this is absolutely possible. The
S2: breakthrough really is. That we can really do it, and
S2: that it's not just a theoretical model. And we all know, okay,
S2: it can work, but it's like we can literally apply it.
S2: We can literally show it in real time. And and
S2: it's actually been shown also in other randomized double blind studies.
S2: For example, the Baseline Institute in Austria ran two of
S2: those double blinded studies with actual test persons. So in
S2: this case it was not petri dishes or anything. It
S2: was actual people. And they got the blood taken. And
S2: then it was, you know, shown what the what the
S2: baseline is. And then they got charged and again, it
S2: was double blinded. So the person, the doctor that was
S2: with the room, with the test persons in the room
S2: had no clue what would happen when something would happen
S2: and if even something would happen, he only knew he
S2: had to take the blood at that point, and had
S2: to take the blood again, and then look at it
S2: and take pictures and all of that. And it was
S2: shown in 100% of the cases that the blood of
S2: all test persons improved significantly. So with the red blood
S2: cells actually declawed and completely after even as stage one,
S2: stage two of blood clotting, any negative effects of WiFi
S2: were completely wiped out and neutralized. Even the white blood
S2: cell activity motility increased significantly, which is that's essential for
S2: the immune system. And they were able to show even
S2: to other things. So the parasitic load and the blood
S2: decreased and even cholesterol levels decreased. So it was quite phenomenal.
S2: And it's very physical. Right. So that's that's the thing.
S2: It's energy. But but it really works on the physical.
S2: And that brings it back to the beginning because it
S2: works on the below subatomic level and is because of
S2: that able to promote these positive changes on all the level,
S2: including the physical. What if I were.
S1: To take, like, those cells and culture that have been
S1: exposed to the quantum upgrade frequencies? And then I were
S1: to put them next to, like a Wi-Fi router or
S1: start to, I don't know, play death metal or say
S1: hey over and over again to them. Would it negate
S1: that frequency or cancel it out and then they'd have
S1: to be recharged?
S2: So? So what are the other? It's the other way round, actually.
S2: So let's say none of those cells cultures are charged
S2: at this point, and they're just in a room with
S2: no Wi-Fi router. And then you suddenly bring in a
S2: Wi-Fi router and put it right underneath the Petri dishes,
S2: for example. You'll see, uh, changes in the cells very rapidly, frankly,
S2: and it's detrimental. It's quite destructive to cells or blood cells.
S2: It doesn't really matter. Anything that's that's alive. Really. And
S2: then if you were to turn on the quantum upgrade,
S2: it negates the the Wi-Fi router activity basically, and the
S2: impact it has, um, on the cells, on the blood, etc..
S1: Yeah, but what if I turn the Wi-Fi back on
S1: or have it running at the same time to like,
S1: the no.
S2: Yeah.
S1: Vibrating frequencies like override the other frequencies. There are rank
S1: order in terms of how this works or what.
S2: Yes, exactly. Because so the quantum field is the is
S2: below subatomic and it literally it harmonizes the Wi-Fi. Uh,
S2: or if it was 5G or 4G, it doesn't really matter.
S2: It's all the same thing. It harmonizes those. So yeah,
S2: in all those experiments very important. You know they don't
S2: they don't. So if they they take a before test,
S2: then they turn on Wi-Fi as an example and they
S2: measure what happens. You know, the blood really starts to
S2: clod looks bad. The oxygenation of the blood goes bad,
S2: the white blood cells tend to be paralyzed and all
S2: this type of stuff. And then our, um, our quantum
S2: upgrade is turned on while the Wi-Fi stays on. Of course,
S2: it's not turned off because that would not really be showing.
S2: Is the technology able to harmonize neutralize. So it stays
S2: on completely and all those negative effects are wiped off
S2: the table. Mm.
S1: Okay. So does that mean that if the quantum upgrade
S1: frequency is then removed. But the Wi-Fi keeps going. And
S1: what I'm getting at here is like let's say I'm
S1: wearing this necklace and it gets bombarded with a whole
S1: bunch of Wi-Fi and my body's bombarded with a whole
S1: bunch of Wi-Fi. Do I have to, like, reset somehow?
S1: Like put the necklace back into the quantum block charger
S1: or go and turn off the Wi-Fi and recharge my body?
S1: Is this making sense?
S2: Yeah, it makes sense. And so the first thing is that,
S2: you know, the necklace, you don't need to ever recharge it.
S2: Certainly over time you can upgrade it and make it
S2: even stronger.
S1: Oh, I do, I do that once, once a week.
S1: I take it off and I put it in the
S1: quantum block that you sent me for about two minutes,
S1: and I put it back on. And again, I know
S1: this sounds like super fringe and kind of kind of
S1: quack like, but and it could be placebo, of course.
S1: Even though you noted that you've done double blind studies,
S1: I can't double blind myself unless I gave it to
S1: a family member and told them to, you know, put
S1: it or not, put it in the block without me
S1: seeing and then bring it back to me and see
S1: if I notice the difference. But I notice when I
S1: put it in the block on that weekly basis for
S1: the next few days, it feels like the energy is
S1: even higher, if that makes sense.
S2: Yeah. However, though you're not now, you're not getting any
S2: more in it if you if you put it in
S2: the same block, if so, if you put it in
S2: a higher and a stronger block, you will get more
S2: in it. So because the the the capsule does not
S2: lose its power depends on what it was charged initially with.
S2: And then yes, you probably had a stronger block at home.
S2: And then if you put it in the first. The
S2: first time or a couple of times. It definitely increases it,
S2: but it doesn't lose its power really. So you don't
S2: need to recharge that. And with yourself like you mentioned. Okay.
S2: What is what what happens if I'm exposed to WiFi? Okay.
S2: And I use this technology and then it helps it
S2: harmonizes all of that. What if I don't have access
S2: to the technology anymore? And now I'm again exposed to WiFi? Yeah.
S2: Then over time, um, things start to get worse again. However,
S2: it's this staircase effect because what the quantum energy actually
S2: does it. It trains yourself to actually be able to
S2: also be in a stronger field and try to, um,
S2: vibrate in a higher level. Um, so it so in
S2: that sense, it's different from like an aspirin or an
S2: ibuprofen that you, you always need to take in order
S2: to get rid of your headache. But it doesn't teach you, um,
S2: how to get rid of that headache. You know, at
S2: least to, to some extent on your own. And that's
S2: how the quantum energy really is a little bit different.
S1: I've had actually a few people at my house, almost
S1: everybody I bring to my house, I'll have them put
S1: their hand inside the quantum block to see if they
S1: notice anything. There's been a couple times that people who
S1: are energy healers, like massage therapists, who also do Reiki
S1: and energy work because I tend to my house, is
S1: like the island of Misfit Toys. I have all these
S1: random like podcasters and scientists and physicians and, you know,
S1: energy healers and therapists and stuff constantly in and out
S1: of the doors just because that's kind of like my
S1: the lion's share of my friendship community. It's a little
S1: bit odd and a little wacky around here sometimes, but
S1: they've put their hand in it and immediately withdrawn their
S1: hand and said, what is that? That just shocked me.
S1: And they they're super sensitive to these energies. Have you
S1: ever experienced something like that?
S2: Absolutely. Yeah. So energy healers and you know, the ones
S2: that can see energy, they see it right away and
S2: they actually use our technology there. There's hundreds of such
S2: energy healers that are actually using our tech just because
S2: it amplifies their work. And it also helps them because
S2: it's a high vibrational source of energy that they can
S2: work with and that they can leverage for their own, um,
S2: you know, energy system and physical body, frankly, as well.
S2: And they tend to be very receptive to that energy. So,
S2: you know, wait until you have the grand blog. So
S2: after this, sent me your address again, and we'll send
S2: you a grand blog and wait, what? They see what
S2: they say, then.
S1: That'll be interesting. But it's also interesting to to to
S1: put my tennis racket in it. So the. Did you
S1: know that Carlyle Rafferty, who I've had on my show before,
S1: who runs the Sun Life Organics in Malibu and Austin,
S1: a bit of the hot spots around the US or
S1: these fantastic juicers when you go there, if you look
S1: behind the counter, they all have a quantum block, and
S1: they charge up all their smoothie ingredients in the quantum
S1: blocks before they make like their, you know, billion dollar
S1: bowl and see bowls and dragonfruit bowls and everything.
S2: Yeah, absolutely. I'm very aware of that. So, uh, yeah,
S2: they've I guess they've purchased 18 or 19 customized infinity
S2: blocks by now because they need it to be bigger
S2: than the regular ones just so that they can fit in, um,
S2: multiple smoothies at the same time and all of that. So, yeah,
S2: I'm aware of that and it's absolutely cool. And yeah,
S2: so he's been a pioneer in that sense. Right. And
S2: now we're actually playing catch up with research. And you
S2: may appreciate that I'm not sure if you've heard of
S2: this but so the the block technology is able to
S2: improve water in no time. Right. That's what the Emoto Institute, uh, proved.
S2: You know, within three minutes, even in the weakest device
S2: we had, it was able to improve water better than
S2: anything else they've ever tested before. So it basically structured
S2: the water to its optimal form. Um, in just a
S2: few minutes. And since about 14 months now, the Emoto
S2: Institute has been an exclusive reseller for Japan because they
S2: wanted to bring those products to Japan, which they've never
S2: done before with any other product line ever. But now
S2: this has been taken a step further, because a lot
S2: of people out of the community reported when they are,
S2: they're allergic to certain substances and when they charge these
S2: substances in the infinity blog or, you know, the grant blog,
S2: the travel blog for about four minutes, they don't have
S2: an allergic reaction. We prove that even life on stage
S2: at a big conference in front of over 100 people were,
S2: I think that was actually that was Todd Shipman, because
S2: he's allergic to crabmeat. Um, that's one of the things
S2: he's allergic to. They put crabmeat in his left arm.
S1: I mean, they put crab meat. I mean, like, they
S1: they injected crab meat with the derma roller.
S2: Yeah, with the derma roller. Um, yeah. That was actually
S2: Ian Mitchell doing that. Um, you I mean, Todd Todd
S2: agreed to do this right? So we didn't force anything.
S2: He actually suggested that because he found out that he
S2: can charge it and then have no allergic reaction anyway,
S2: so they put the crab meat. Then in the infinity
S2: blog live on stage, and after a few minutes took
S2: it out and put it in his other arm. No
S2: allergic reaction. We've heard this from so many different people,
S2: including gluten sensitivities and all that, that now there's a
S2: clinic in Munich that has been doing research in that regard.
S2: They have a $50,000 device with which they can test
S2: stress responses and allergy responses of the human body to
S2: various substances. And they've been able to show in a
S2: pilot study that no matter what they tested, whether that
S2: was gluten, lactose or anything else, um, the block was
S2: able to reduce the allergy response by 65 to 95%,
S2: which is quite massive. And they've even shown that with sugar,
S2: you know.
S1: Huh. You mean like you mean like a lower like
S1: a lower glycemic index in response to sugar? Because I
S1: wear a continuous blood glucose monitor. I could try this.
S2: You could definitely try that. But that's not the device
S2: that they use. They have a different device that looks
S2: at the overall stress response of the human body. Like
S2: how does the the, the whole system and the actually
S2: the pancreas, for example, how does the pancreas react if
S2: I eat sugar. Right. So and then there's usually a
S2: lot of work. It's, it's, it's having a sort of
S2: detrimental impact. Right. But I love sugar for example. You
S2: know not not pure sugar. But I love good chocolate
S2: for example. I always charge it now in the blogs.
S2: But but disclaimer if you have allergies or food sensitivities
S2: out there, don't try this at home yet because we
S2: don't have enough data yet. We have a lot of data,
S2: but it's not enough data because there's so many different
S2: cases and substances. But I hope that by the end
S2: of this year, we have a clear guidance that we
S2: can provide. For example, the, you know, if you charge
S2: it for four minutes in the blog, your bread and
S2: you have gluten sensitivity, then your allergy response reduces by
S2: 65 to 95%. That would be a good guidance to give.
S2: But at this point we're not as far. But it's
S2: all looking very, very promising.
S1: Yeah. Don't take your kid with an anaphylactic reaction to
S1: peanuts and put a spoonful of peanut butter in the
S1: quantum block, then feed it to them. After listening to
S1: this podcast, I suppose theoretically you could rumble peanut into
S1: their arm with a derma roller or whatever, but that's
S1: interesting too. I'll have to try it with ice cream, because,
S1: you know, modern dairy based ice cream basically gives me diarrhea.
S1: So maybe I'll try charging up a bowl of ice
S1: cream and see if I do or do not wind
S1: up on the toilet a couple hours later. So that's
S1: interesting to what you say about structured water. You can
S1: structure water a lot of different ways. You can structure
S1: it with sunlight or an infrared light panel. You can
S1: structure with the pour through device. With a structured water filter.
S1: You can structure it with crystals like some of these
S1: water bottles have crystals embedded in them, and you can
S1: structure it with energy very similar to photonic based energy
S1: from sunlight. You can you can charge up the water
S1: with these type of frequencies as well. And I I've
S1: just talked a lot about water with my dad and
S1: my brother, the Greenfield, Gary Greenfield and Zach Greenfield, because
S1: they have a structured water filtration company. And so they've
S1: kind of nerd it out on all the different ways
S1: to structure water. And it certainly can be useful for that.
S1: And you know, I mentioned crystals preferably spelled with a
S1: K if you're cool and you're an alternative healer where
S1: you live in Sedona, you can't spell crystals with a C.
S1: But that same guy, Kahlil Rafferty, also has crystals all
S1: over his Sunlight Organics place based on the frequency that
S1: crystals produce. Which is kind of interesting because from what
S1: I understand, it's also kind of like a quantum field energy.
S1: But I wanted to ask you, based back to the
S1: quantum field topic on this David Hawkins scale, you said
S1: something like, you can calibrate these to the David Hawkins scale.
S1: And I guess the best visual for this, if someone
S1: hasn't read the book or seen his scale, is you've
S1: got like P set, I don't know, A Thousand or
S1: Love at 900 or anger at 100 or whatever. I
S1: don't remember the exact values, but do you know the
S1: unit that he's actually using in that because you said
S1: it wasn't hurt? Is it just like a random random number,
S1: or what kind of what kind of measurement or unit
S1: of measurement is he using when, when he or you
S1: are talking about frequencies like that and giving them a
S1: numerical value or a scale. Yeah.
S2: So it's not Hertz, it's it's literally vibration. And it's,
S2: it's and he calls it consciousness level. Right. And you
S2: could also call it vibration. It doesn't really matter. Um,
S2: and so the low vibrational low consciousness states as you
S2: mentioned are something like anger, guilt, shame. Right. And you
S2: find those in the low like 102 hundred, 300 range. Um,
S2: then you go into the level of reason, I think,
S2: which is around 400, and then you have the level
S2: of unconditional love, which is 500. You go into joy
S2: 540 and then you move into the enlightenment zone, basically,
S2: which is, uh, sort of like a stretch zone. And.
S2: After defining the scale, then with his advanced kinesiology methods,
S2: he was able to basically calibrate for a specific person
S2: or for location. Um, where does it vibrate on this scale?
S2: So you have that scale, and then you basically test
S2: out where does that vibrate?
S1: What are you testing it with?
S2: So he used always muscle testing, which is, um, kinesiology.
S2: But you can't just, you know, just. Oh, okay. Muscle.
S2: This is how it works. Okay, I'll do this, I
S2: test it. That's not going to work. But you have
S2: to be advanced.
S1: It's not going to give you a frequency either. Right.
S1: Like it's going to give you a qualitative reaction. But
S1: that's not a numerical value.
S2: No, but if you have a scale from 0 to
S2: 1000 as an example, then you can ask the question.
S2: So this location on which which level between 0 and
S2: 1000 does a calibrate. And you can calibrate if you're advanced.
S2: And this you can absolutely do that. And then usually
S2: you use multiple different kinesiology lists that are expert. And
S2: they all come out with the same result. There's actually
S2: also the method of just seeing that you don't even
S2: need to use the muscle testing. That is more for
S2: people that can't really see it. There's not so many
S2: people that can actually they know it instantly. But but
S2: you can use the actual technique of muscle testing. And
S2: Doctor David Hawkins, for example, I think he calibrated millions,
S2: probably of different, uh, different levels, like he was just
S2: a constant muscle tester.
S1: It still sounds kind of imprecise. Do you think that
S1: there will ever be a tool developed where you could
S1: just literally take, I don't know, vitamin D capsule not
S1: to kick that horse to death and literally test it somehow,
S1: like test the actual quantum energy and get a scale
S1: that's more precise, more quantitative, lends itself better to research, uh,
S1: and is a little bit more definable than David Hawkins scale?
S2: I think so, yes. I don't know how long it
S2: will take. It will definitely take some time because stuff
S2: like that is not easy because it's not it's not
S2: been the narrative. It's not been the focus. Right? You know,
S2: there's lots of tools in regards to electricity and magnetism
S2: and what have you. But really quantum energy is while
S2: ancient and always it has always been here since the
S2: beginning of existence. Right. Um, it it is still something
S2: that's sort of new and cutting edge at the moment. Right.
S2: And then it takes time to develop other tools and scientific, uh, methods.
S1: Uh, it's not it's not new and cutting edge. You
S1: mean the awareness of it and the awareness of its
S1: benefits or new. But but quantum energy itself isn't like. Yeah, new.
S2: Exactly. Quantum energy has existed since existence, basically. Or it's
S2: always been there. But but indeed, now you have technology
S2: that you can leverage to, you know, to optimize your
S2: physiological well-being, for example, but in to develop also tools
S2: to measure that exact field strength and the Hawkins levels,
S2: for example. I think that will take, um, several years, uh,
S2: if someone really were to work on it and I
S2: hope people are working it. I know of a group
S2: actually in Europe that is working on a tool like this. Um,
S2: and we'll see. That'll be very interesting because then then
S2: literally everyone at home can, can do these tests.
S1: Yeah, obviously it took a massive amount of energy for
S1: this planet to come into existence. And, you know, I
S1: like to think that, you know, maybe, you know, God
S1: wound up a giant ball of this Qi Gong based
S1: energy and just unleashed it. And now the quantum energy
S1: that's just scattered about the universe in between every single particle,
S1: you know, subatomic particle that exists is still vibrating with
S1: that energy, even though we haven't yet found a way
S1: to quantify it. In the same way that we haven't
S1: yet found a way to to quantify God. And that's
S1: a whole topic for another day, perhaps. Although if you
S1: want to read the book Quantum God, it'd probably be
S1: a pretty good introduction to the intersection between quantum physics
S1: and spirituality. So, uh, you know, Philip. We've alluded a
S1: few times to this quantum upgrade system. I think I've
S1: got my head wrapped around the energy, the delivery of
S1: the energy. But is this system like when I go
S1: to the website and I say, okay, I want you
S1: to bombard my house with David Hawkins scale of 900
S1: during the day, give it a boost of a thousand
S1: at 7 a.m. in the morning, and then kind of
S1: wane it off at night. So there's not too much
S1: energy around the house. Or do this to my car,
S1: or to my pet or to my freaking phone. I mean,
S1: there's there's a bunch of different options on there. Is
S1: this like some kind of a satellite you've got in
S1: a location somewhere that's sending these frequencies based on someone's
S1: receiving address or location or how's it actually working from
S1: a technical standpoint?
S2: Yeah. So that's that's a great question. And it doesn't
S2: work like the typical broadcasting works like where you have
S2: an antenna and then you send that energy like to someone.
S2: It actually works in a different way where we're not
S2: sending anything, we're just connecting the unique identifier of the
S2: object or of the person, because you can actually have
S2: the quantum upgrade for yourself. That's what all the professional
S2: athletes do, for example, because that's the most advanced quantum
S2: upgrade you can actually get if it's for yourself. Um,
S2: because then you're not just like in the energy of
S2: the home interacting, you're actually literally having that. It's as
S2: if you're you are in the field and that's what
S2: we're doing. So we use this unique identifier, which um, is,
S2: you know, for a card would be the Vin number,
S2: for example, for the home, it would be the exact
S2: physical location, the address. Right.
S1: Do you ever get concerned about like, security breaches? I mean,
S1: you got to hold database of people's Vin numbers and
S1: home addresses, like is this is this secure?
S2: Um. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, like, um, I think, uh, much,
S2: much more insecure, as if you, if you run a
S2: bank or a T-Mobile, for example, with 35 million, uh,
S2: data sets, right where you have where you have that. So, uh,
S2: we we're not that big. Uh, this is way easier
S2: for us to secure all of what we do. And
S2: we work with, uh, one of the top cyber security firms, um,
S2: in the nation together to actually protect all of that data.
S2: But then what's very important is, you know, what cannot
S2: be hacked is the system itself. The quantum upgrade system
S2: itself cannot be hacked because it's an analog system. No
S2: one could ever hack it. It's it's literally impossible. Um,
S2: and so no changes could ever be done by anyone
S2: in that regard. There's nothing that could be added or changed. So, um,
S2: that's the beauty of it. It's literally analog. Um, there's
S2: no way it could be changed. But coming back to
S2: the original question. So if we have that unique identifier,
S2: we literally place it into this super powerful source of
S2: quantum energy.
S1: Who does like, like at your at your house or
S1: at your guys's offices or something like that?
S2: We have it in two different locations in the world,
S2: and we'll probably have it in three different locations at
S2: some point. Um, you know, also for security reasons, it
S2: is in multiple locations, but um, but yeah, so then
S2: you are literally in the field that is the, the,
S2: you know, a little bit what the quantum entanglement. Uh,
S2: physicists show that it's possible that. You don't. You don't
S2: have to send something there. You literally connect the unique identifier, um,
S2: to that. And then you're in the field and as
S2: soon as and that the beauty is with the quantum operator,
S2: you can say at any time I want to pause
S2: it or you want to change it, or I want
S2: to add something, whatever. If you do that, it works
S2: in near real time. Within five minutes, uh, the changes
S2: will happen. Um, and you, you determine that, right? Because
S2: you have a, you know, like a web application available
S2: and you can make these changes yourself. So it's nothing
S2: we do, like you said it the way that you
S2: want it. Um, and, and yeah, it's important that in
S2: the beginning you don't set it to more than 500
S2: on the hawk and scale at night.
S1: I made I made that mistake, by the way. I
S1: just blasted it, thinking more was better, and I. I
S1: kind of stuck with it because I was like, all right,
S1: is this placebo or what? By night, three of insomnia,
S1: I'm like, this can't be placebo. And especially as soon
S1: as I turned it down, I turned it off initially
S1: and then gradually scaled it back up. And I think
S1: now it said at 500. I slept fine after that.
S2: Yeah, yeah. And the cool thing is you, you you
S2: totally realize that that it's there. Right? So that and
S2: that's a, that's a cool thing. And then you, you
S2: just adjust it to the levels. And what we always
S2: tell people use the default levels at first and then
S2: there's nothing you do wrong and you're not going to
S2: have insomnia. You're not going to have extraordinary detox effects
S2: or any of that. Like it'll be totally, actually great
S2: and harmonious, but then people certainly want to try at
S2: some point to set a booster and all that. But
S2: after some time, you actually. You get really used to it,
S2: you really adapt well and you work with this energy,
S2: and then you can also get to these higher levels
S2: relatively quickly. And setting those boosters is a really cool
S2: thing to do. Um, so we need to set you
S2: up for the you actually, so that you can try
S2: that and then you can when you have a tennis match,
S2: you set your booster. You may choose a specific frequency
S2: that you like, um, and you'll be extra supported. You know,
S2: we have multiple professional athletes, like world champions, like we
S2: have a seven times, um, a medalist of the X
S2: games and other folks that are using our tech, um,
S2: one of the top, uh, pole vaulters in the US.
S2: They use that because they can get the extra juice
S2: in because as a top athlete, what do you want? Right?
S2: You you want to have the bad days better. And
S2: if you have a good day, you want to also
S2: that to be a little bit better and to be
S2: in your full presence and have extra juice, your cells
S2: working optimally, that's kind of what you want. And you
S2: can do a lot of things, of course. Right? I mean, supplementation,
S2: be in general good health, ice baths, all that kind
S2: of stuff, and keep doing all of that. Right. Because
S2: we're not saying this is replacing that. It's adding to it.
S2: And that's kind of what it does.
S1: Yeah. Hey, if a random professional pole vaulter uses it,
S1: it must be good. Um, I'm just I'm just pulling
S1: your leg, man. Um, so anyways, yeah, your homie Ian
S1: Mitchell being from New Orleans might be a better guy
S1: to ask this question to. I thought about this the
S1: first time I interviewed you, and you said you could
S1: put a photograph of somebody inside the block and they'd
S1: feel the effects. Are you ever get accused of voodoo
S1: magic or anybody raise an eyebrow at this stuff and, uh,
S1: say it's just kind of unprovable, spooky action?
S2: No, because it's 100% demonstrable, verifiable and repeatable. And it's
S2: it's certainly not placebo either, just because those studies have
S2: all been placebo controlled, randomized, double blind or single blind. Uh,
S2: so from that standpoint, very easy to say. And certainly
S2: not voodoo anything because voodoo, um, um, implicates really that
S2: it's something negative you can do with something. And that
S2: is the beauty about the block technology. And that's actually
S2: nothing we did because it's a, it's a 100% natural
S2: quantum energy field that we work with. And that's what's
S2: important to understand. And the nature of this field is
S2: to harmonize anything that's destructive or harmful to life and
S2: to consciousness. Um, that's just the nature of the field.
S2: So now, if you can indeed take a picture of
S2: of someone and put it in the block and then
S2: they'll be in the field, you cannot take two pictures
S2: of people and put them inside or more, because then
S2: you co-mingle energies and that would not be good, because
S2: of course everyone has their own energy field and you
S2: want everyone to have their own energy field not be
S2: co-mingled in any way. But if you were to use,
S2: let's say, a fear frequency or like a herbicide or
S2: a pesticides or like a deathwish or, you know, whatever,
S2: you can think of it to be voodoo and you
S2: place it in there, you know, what happens instantly is
S2: harmonized in, it's neutralized. It doesn't exist as an information
S2: in the field, because that's the nature of the field.
S2: It neutralized that because otherwise, frankly, we could have also
S2: not released the blocks, because then indeed it could be
S2: used for nefarious purposes, but it cannot. And that's the
S2: beauty of it. But again, I don't want to take the, um,
S2: the credit for that because that's really nature that created
S2: the field like that, where we're just able to harness
S2: it and concentrate it.
S1: Yeah. So use a selfie, not a group wedding photo, folks,
S1: if you try this out for yourself, you know what
S1: we ought to do. Please. Phil is, uh, try it
S1: on my dog. I know you have a frequency on
S1: there for the dog, because my dog has copious amounts
S1: of energy, and I want to see if he barks
S1: even louder if we load him up with the frequency.
S1: So that's that's what I want to do. The double
S1: blind experiment on is. Don't tell my dog he's getting it.
S1: Don't tell me what frequency you put it on charge
S1: of my dog, and I'll let you know if I
S1: notice anything. And we'll see if little Dashers head explodes
S1: or not.
S2: Well, yeah, well. And of course, you're saying this in
S2: a funny way, but indeed, be mindful with that, right?
S2: Because certainly, you know, if a living being you and
S2: I know that you said it in a funny way,
S2: but for some people out there that may have not
S2: understood it that way, just don't crank it up.
S1: Yeah. Oh, no, in that case, it might be considered
S1: voodoo magic. Yeah, yeah. Don't use this for nefarious purposes, people.
S1: It's great power and responsibility in your hands when you
S1: have this, uh, quantum upgrade, login and password at your fingertips.
S1: So that's it? That's a good point. Hey, I know
S1: we're we're starting to run short on time here. This
S1: is super intriguing, though. It's really helped me wrap my
S1: head around some of these concepts and answer the the
S1: questions people ask me on the elevator about my necklace
S1: or about this block on my kitchen counter. Uh, but, uh,
S1: before I let you go, how does this actually work?
S1: People go to the website and they just sign up
S1: and they select what they want to charge themselves up with.
S2: Yes. So first of all, for everyone out there, it's
S2: quantum upgrade.io and use. Code Ben 15. So Ben one
S2: five and you'll get 15 days for free. And, um. Yeah.
S2: So so then you can just pick one of those
S2: quantum upgrade services basically, which I recommend do the one
S2: for you. It's called the field for you or the
S2: quantum upgrade for you because that is the one that is.
S2: The deepest and most comprehensive one for you personally, and
S2: so you'll be able to set it for yourself. You'll
S2: be able to to run with it for 15 days, basically.
S2: And and again go with the default levels at first,
S2: maybe the first two or 3 or 4 days, then
S2: start using the boosters. And the boosters always like 30 minutes.
S2: It's very easy once you sign up.
S1: Yeah, I got mine turned on for seven, eight, 7 a.m.
S1: like I mentioned, I get my booster frequency.
S2: Yeah. And so it's basically, um, my account. Um, you know,
S2: usually people use it on their phone, which I recommend.
S2: So we don't have an actual actual app. It's a
S2: web application for a reason. We ask the community if
S2: they want an app. And they said no, uh, with
S2: all Apple banning anything that's like, not mainstream, just don't
S2: even go there. Um, and so we have a nice
S2: web application. So you open that on your phone, then
S2: you log in, you say remember me? And then basically
S2: it stays open all the time and you can get
S2: in and out really quickly. A very important thing is
S2: like once you've signed up, you need to go into
S2: your subscription, set your time zone and click update. And
S2: then within five minutes it actually starts. Um, that's that's
S2: kind of what we, we, we set that people need
S2: to just, uh, put their time zone in because it's
S2: sort of important because if, if, you know, if you're
S2: in Europe. Um, but you set it on the timezone
S2: in the US. Yeah. Then you may get your nighttime values, right.
S1: You get your booster. It. Yeah. You'll get your booster
S1: at a 3 a.m.. Yeah, I get it, I get it.
S1: That makes sense. So it's all pretty intuitive. I set
S1: it up myself and yeah, I was I'm kind of
S1: a Luddite with a lot of this stuff. And it
S1: was it was pretty intuitive. So, so so quantum.io. And
S1: I didn't know the upgraded IO quantum upgrade. There's a
S1: code people can use. What you said was Ben 15.
S2: Ben 50. Incorrect. Yes.
S1: That is good to know. I wouldn't have known that.
S1: My team's also always up to some sort of stuff
S1: behind the scenes. I'm glad. I'm glad you're aware. Yep. Okay, so,
S1: Ben 15 and what I'll do, because people might want
S1: to hear our first podcast because we also covered some
S1: cool uses in terms of like transference of energy and
S1: some different ways to use supplements and ways to charge
S1: up different objects. In our first podcast about that quantum
S1: block and about some of the clothing items and stuff.
S1: So if you want that episode two, go to Ben
S1: Greenfield Life. Com slash quantum upgrade. And I will put
S1: I'll put that one in there also. So in the
S1: meantime Phil, it's been intriguing and kind of weird as usual,
S1: but I wouldn't expect anything less from you. So thanks
S1: for doing this, man. And uh, um, I've got all
S1: sorts of new experiments I'm going to try now with
S1: the quantum stuff.
S2: Well, thanks so much for having me on. It's been
S2: a pleasure. And, uh, thanks for everyone watching, listening. And. Yeah.
S2: So then the only other thing is, after this, sent
S2: me your address so that we can send you a
S2: grant block and, um. Yeah. Have a great time, everyone.
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