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S2: Running, bicycling, motorcycle riding, things like that. Yeah, that's where

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S2: like the gym rats and stuff. They use it. They'll

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S1: Fitness, nutrition, biohacking, longevity, life optimization, spirituality and a whole

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S1: lot more. Welcome to the Ben Greenfield Live show. Are

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S1: you ready to hack your life? Let's do this. So

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S1: I have a confession to make. Last night I got

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S3: Absolutely. Well, my, uh, my introduction to C60 was, quite frankly, uh, accidental.

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S1: There's a lot of soccer balls. How do you actually

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S2: catalase mimic. It restores your mitochondria function. So now your

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S2: of giant red stars. Well, I should probably just do

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S1: Yeah, that might be helpful because, uh, when you're throwing

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S3: I think we need to go back just a minute.

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S2: Okay. Yeah, well, there was a there was a guy,

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S2: its unique chemical actions. But it really wasn't, uh, there

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S2: I mean, the burnt wick of your candle has like 0.25%

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S2: you get your C60. We get ours from some sublimated C60.

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S2: Yeah. That's like evaporation is purified through a process like

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S2: C60 has never been exposed to solvents. There's other C60

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S1: Would the concern there be lower purity or potency or

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S1: the introduction of things like benzene as far as a contaminant? Yeah.

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S2: Methyl benzene is a known carcinogen. You don't want that.

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S2: In your case, there's just. No we have sublimated C60.

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S2: it's taken off the plates. And, and that's how you

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S3: And bottom line, it's, you know, recreating the atmosphere of

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S3: a large red star in a lab.

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S1: What's a large red star?

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S2: Oh, let's say what it is is our star will

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S1: Okay, that makes sense. I think the first time I

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S1: a longevity or an age reversal context. Yeah. Is that accurate? Like,

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S2: Yes it has. And that was the original, uh, perhaps

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S2: instead of finding toxicity, they found it increased the lifespan

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S2: of Worcester rats by 90%.

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S2: Worcester rat is a is a particular type of rat that.

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S2: Characterizes human aging. They usually die of cancers or cognitive

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S1: Gee, how much of that do you think could be, uh,

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S2: Oh, well, they did, and what they did is because

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S2: mice have a much shorter lifespan than rats.

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S1: What's a what's a wild type mouse?

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S2: It's just it's kind of like the mice that run

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S2: they're they're they're wild. Like they found in that case,

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S2: And it increased their lifespan by 11%. So that would

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S2: be more characteristic of what it would do for a person. 11%

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S2: increase in lifespan. And of course, you don't have the

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S2: going to be decrepit, you know, C60 just doesn't increase

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S2: lifespan increases. Healthspan. So like with the Worcester rats, the mice,

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S3: So Ben, I think right now might be a good

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S3: really clear. C60 does not, um, prevent, cure, mitigate or

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S3: works at the cellular level to lift the oxidative burden.

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S3: Like Ken said, it helps to neutralize the oxidative stress

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S3: You can basically think about it as a, um, a

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S3: the inflammation and the oxidative stress and basically help create

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S3: my story with, um, allergies and, you know, painful PMS

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S3: get it balanced. It helps to balance the inflammation, helps

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S3: to promote immune support. And the best thing is, at

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S3: the end of the day, that most people, um, notice

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S3: a marked increase in energy and mental clarity within about

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S3: 30 days of daily use. Once they get used to it,

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S3: and then once they start taking it long term, then

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S3: other benefits show up that are unique to that individual

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S3: the reality is, as a manufacturer of this, these animal

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S3: studies are interesting, but they were done on animals. There's

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S1: And that's actually what I wanted to ask you. You know,

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S1: what what have we what have we actually seen in

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S1: human beings with C60?

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S2: Okay, first, first human study. They put it in a

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S2: cream for Japanese women, and they found that it reduced

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S2: very first one. They've also found that rubbed on like

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S2: especially for people like a PSA. But it doesn't it

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S2: slows down hair loss for men with, uh, male pattern baldness.

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S2: But because that's a genetic thing, it's it's not going

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S2: So they do cell studies. And so one of the

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S2: the other didn't. And they expose them to a variety

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S2: of neurotoxins. And the C cells that had the C

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S2: 60 nerve cells that had the C60 resisted the toxic,

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S2: toxic damage, whereas controls, of course, were seriously damaged. They

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S2: also found they did that with human skin cells. They

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S2: they found that the human skin cells that had C60

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S2: were resistant to UV damage, whereas the other ones, you know,

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S2: were damaged by ultraviolet light. And so those are those

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S2: are two of those are a couple. There's also some

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S2: cell cell lines. There's oh we could they sounds well

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S2: we don't talk about the C word so.

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S1: Oh okay. You can talk about the C word. No

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S1: no I'm curious about this. Like there's obviously a lot

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S1: of antioxidants out there right. Still being or PQ or

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436
00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:52,360
S1: in terms of the mechanism of action with the Buckminster

437
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,389
S1: Fuller ring, you know, soccer ball that's making it act

438
00:22:55,390 --> 00:22:58,330
S1: differently or more powerfully like like if I were to

439
00:22:58,330 --> 00:23:01,090
S1: rub like vitamin C into my hair, what, I still

440
00:23:01,090 --> 00:23:03,190
S1: get hair growth or is there something going on specifically

441
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:04,090
S1: with C60?

442
00:23:04,330 --> 00:23:06,760
S2: Well, there is something going on specifically with C60. There's

443
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:12,129
S2: like basically the four really important antioxidants, especially with cellular metabolism.

444
00:23:12,130 --> 00:23:16,120
S2: And one of course is CoQ10. You can supplement for that.

445
00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:19,720
S2: The next, of course is glutathione. There is some supplementation.

446
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,810
S2: And C60 actually does the job of glutathione in dealing

447
00:23:22,810 --> 00:23:26,800
S2: with the hydroxyl ion. But that's only one of a dozen, uh,

448
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,950
S2: jobs that glutathione does. So C60 will do that part

449
00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:32,590
S2: of the job for glutathione. So what glutathione you have,

450
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,260
S2: you can can do the other jobs and you can

451
00:23:35,260 --> 00:23:39,129
S2: always supplement for glutathione. But there's two antioxidants that there

452
00:23:39,130 --> 00:23:42,700
S2: is no supplementation for it because they're endogenous. And that

453
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:46,659
S2: is superoxide dismutase and catalase. And they work together taking

454
00:23:46,660 --> 00:23:50,290
S2: care of the superoxide ion, which is the most damaging

455
00:23:50,290 --> 00:23:53,409
S2: oxidative radical in the body. And what C60 is a

456
00:23:53,410 --> 00:23:56,410
S2: mimic that does the job of both. So so especially

457
00:23:56,410 --> 00:24:01,570
S2: people that have a mitochondria low mitochondria function. They uh,

458
00:24:01,570 --> 00:24:04,389
S2: they especially as we get older sod and catalase levels

459
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:08,139
S2: go down just naturally with aging. And there's there's nothing

460
00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:09,879
S2: to do. And there are some people that have certain

461
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,750
S2: genetic alleles which which that sod production or catalase production

462
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:17,080
S2: drops even faster. And so for people that take C60,

463
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,659
S2: it acts as a mimic, you know, passes the gut barrier,

464
00:24:19,660 --> 00:24:22,359
S2: passes the blood brain barrier is taken into the cells

465
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,770
S2: by endocytosis and then into the mitochondria by endocytosis, where

466
00:24:26,770 --> 00:24:29,230
S2: the mitochondria seem to know how to use it. And

467
00:24:29,530 --> 00:24:32,320
S2: it takes the takes the place of the missing sod

468
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,830
S2: and catalase. So now your mitochondria can step up. And

469
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:37,240
S2: here's something. Oh, by the way, I do need to

470
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,060
S2: do a counter indication on this. Things that you'll notice

471
00:24:40,060 --> 00:24:43,900
S2: if you're on a blood thinner because C60 restarts the

472
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:46,300
S2: cells the not just of your nerve cells, but the cells,

473
00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:49,450
S2: the endocrine system and the model county and the energy system.

474
00:24:49,450 --> 00:24:53,950
S2: The mitochondria make long, which is the precursor molecule for

475
00:24:53,950 --> 00:24:57,250
S2: all the hormones. So your your adrenals will, like kick

476
00:24:57,250 --> 00:25:00,520
S2: back into action when you take C60. And one of

477
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,290
S2: the things you know that the adrenals one of the

478
00:25:02,290 --> 00:25:06,940
S2: things that adrenals make is mineralocorticoid, which are the important

479
00:25:06,940 --> 00:25:10,389
S2: hormone for regulating blood thickness. So if you're on a

480
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:14,109
S2: blood thinner, you need to, uh, you need to like,

481
00:25:14,109 --> 00:25:18,129
S2: consult with your doctor and get more testing before you

482
00:25:18,130 --> 00:25:20,740
S2: do that. And another thing is, uh, there's a huge

483
00:25:20,740 --> 00:25:23,980
S2: increase in libido for people that take C60.

484
00:25:24,430 --> 00:25:26,710
S1: You mean in studies or anecdotally?

485
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,310
S2: Uh, yes. Yes. These are the these are this is

486
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:32,409
S2: just what we found with customers. And and part of

487
00:25:32,410 --> 00:25:35,230
S2: that is the, uh, well, actually we've had many case

488
00:25:35,230 --> 00:25:40,510
S2: cases that, uh, anecdotal, anecdotal testing, uh, actually from testing

489
00:25:40,510 --> 00:25:42,280
S2: that we've, uh, that we've had with that.

490
00:25:42,609 --> 00:25:45,010
S1: I'm curious about this radiation piece, you know, because I

491
00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:47,440
S1: fly a lot on airplanes and I tend to travel

492
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,110
S1: with iodine just because it's one of the few compounds

493
00:25:50,109 --> 00:25:52,570
S1: I could find that actually has good clinical research behind

494
00:25:52,570 --> 00:25:56,230
S1: it for combating some of the oxidative effects of radiation.

495
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:59,560
S1: When it comes to C60, you obviously had success with

496
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,400
S1: it for nuclear based radiation, but have you ever thought

497
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,459
S1: about any type of mechanism of action or benefit that

498
00:26:06,460 --> 00:26:09,790
S1: might come from using it for airline travel? Besides the

499
00:26:09,790 --> 00:26:12,280
S1: fact that that that I just packed for a trip

500
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,710
S1: to Cabo last night, I always put two of those

501
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:16,810
S1: gummies in my backpack because I. I eat them on

502
00:26:16,810 --> 00:26:20,379
S1: the plane that it's my little snack, but I hadn't

503
00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:24,880
S1: actually dug into the radiation protective properties or thought about.

504
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,980
S1: So you brought it up a few minutes ago. So

505
00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:29,140
S1: do you think there's there's a case to be made

506
00:26:29,140 --> 00:26:31,270
S1: for using it in conjunction with airline travel?

507
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,580
S2: Oh, absolutely. Because what it is, is one of the

508
00:26:33,580 --> 00:26:38,350
S2: things that like, we're 70% water and the main oxidative

509
00:26:38,350 --> 00:26:42,369
S2: radical that radiation produces is the hydroxyl ion and the

510
00:26:42,369 --> 00:26:45,190
S2: hydroxy line is just a water molecule with the protons

511
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:48,449
S2: been kicked out. And so now it's, it's now and

512
00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:50,129
S2: then it goes. And then, then it goes out and

513
00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:55,199
S2: causes oxidative damage. Well, when C60 neutralizes the oxygen and

514
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,359
S2: then the second oxidative radical. You're going to be running

515
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,830
S2: into radiation is the superoxide ion. Without electron will lose.

516
00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:04,800
S2: The electron gets on the oxygen. So C60 is. That's

517
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,280
S2: why C60 is actually C60 is the foremost radiation protection

518
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,390
S2: that you can take.

519
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,139
S1: That's that's actually really good to know. Okay. Now it's

520
00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:15,510
S1: my understanding, I think based on the way that you

521
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:19,560
S1: described it, this is technically a pretty water soluble compound,

522
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,290
S1: the Buckminster Fuller ring. Is that why you tend to

523
00:27:22,290 --> 00:27:25,500
S1: see it mixed in with like MCT, coconut, olive oil?

524
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:27,359
S1: I think most of the products you guys have sent me, actually,

525
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,340
S1: they're almost all oil based. Carrier.

526
00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:32,640
S2: Yeah, actually C60 doesn't have really much soluble in water

527
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,550
S2: because it's non-polar, so we have to dissolve it in

528
00:27:35,550 --> 00:27:41,160
S2: oil inside your the inside the inside your cells, it's

529
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,490
S2: in the cellulose or it's in the cytoplasm. So it

530
00:27:44,490 --> 00:27:47,370
S2: operates there. But yeah. So it has to be dissolved

531
00:27:47,369 --> 00:27:49,980
S2: in an oil. And we just picked we've we picked

532
00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:52,350
S2: the best oils. Now originally everybody had it in olive

533
00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:55,050
S2: oil because that's the original testing. Because olive oil is

534
00:27:55,050 --> 00:27:56,399
S2: well characterized and easy.

535
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,310
S3: But it's easy to get in your air and it's

536
00:27:59,310 --> 00:28:01,199
S3: cheap and affordable. And they can use it for testing.

537
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,479
S2: Yeah. But it's a little strong and it would go

538
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,160
S2: right through me. So I started that was the first one.

539
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,010
S2: I put it in avocado oil. And avocado oil is

540
00:28:08,010 --> 00:28:12,450
S2: perhaps the easiest oil for human digestion. And so I

541
00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:14,520
S2: find I use I like that because I could if

542
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,670
S2: I took like an ounce of olive oil, I might

543
00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:19,800
S2: have to visit the bathroom. But with avocado oil I

544
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,889
S2: don't have a problem. And then of course, as I mentioned, yeah,

545
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:25,469
S2: I mentioned before, I put it in MCT oil for

546
00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:28,649
S2: those people that have glucose processing issues and our gummies,

547
00:28:28,650 --> 00:28:32,100
S2: which you talk about, those are in 100% whole coconut

548
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:35,460
S2: oil and so, so but all of our oils are

549
00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:37,620
S2: all organic. And those are the those are the good

550
00:28:37,619 --> 00:28:40,560
S2: oils that they have the right balance of omega threes

551
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,080
S2: and sixes. You know, we don't want to put C60

552
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,540
S2: in in seed oils which are inflammatory.

553
00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:49,620
S1: Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a component now of my super

554
00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:52,920
S1: antioxidant rich smoothie I have in the mornings. My kick

555
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,040
S1: right now is I do a scoop of the vanilla protein,

556
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,709
S1: the key on vanilla protein, a couple scoops of the colostrum.

557
00:28:58,710 --> 00:29:00,810
S1: And then I do a heaping scoop of this photo

558
00:29:00,810 --> 00:29:03,180
S1: cyan and this blue photo cyan. And you know, if

559
00:29:03,180 --> 00:29:06,090
S1: you go to wellness, you know, juice bar a lot

560
00:29:06,090 --> 00:29:08,730
S1: of times they have those bright blue overpriced drinks. Well,

561
00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:12,180
S1: I keep the freeze dried blue in my freezer, but

562
00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:14,940
S1: a couple scoops of that in. And then I use

563
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:17,040
S1: coconut water as the base and blend it with ice.

564
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,040
S1: It's like this creamy blue texture. And then I actually

565
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,979
S1: keep the C60 gummies in my freezer. I take out

566
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:25,920
S1: a steak knife, I cut it into little bits, and

567
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,620
S1: then I drop that into the smoothie with some cacao

568
00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:31,710
S1: nibs and some coconut flakes. It's so good. I mean, I'm,

569
00:29:31,710 --> 00:29:34,380
S1: I'm I'm certain it's very high in antioxidant capacity, I

570
00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:37,410
S1: probably am it's probably so, so rich in antioxidants. I'm

571
00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:39,870
S1: drinking it too close to my morning workout. As you

572
00:29:39,870 --> 00:29:42,450
S1: guys know you you don't want to take super duper,

573
00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:45,990
S1: you know, high potency antioxidants right after workout, as they

574
00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:49,530
S1: can sometimes blunt the hermetic response. But nonetheless, it's it's

575
00:29:49,530 --> 00:29:52,710
S1: a it's a great smoothie. And I wanted to ask

576
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:56,070
S1: you guys not about the, uh, the smoothie uses, but

577
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:59,520
S1: about this hair growth thing. And again, I'd heard this before,

578
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,950
S1: the hair growth. What would the protocol be? Could I

579
00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:07,410
S1: literally take, like, your oral, uh, C60 compounds and do like,

580
00:30:07,410 --> 00:30:09,840
S1: I don't like derma rolling and rub them into my scalp.

581
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,090
S1: And I even have this red light helmet in my office.

582
00:30:12,090 --> 00:30:13,740
S1: Maybe put some red light on there. Would that be

583
00:30:13,740 --> 00:30:14,880
S1: like a protocol?

584
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,210
S3: You can rub it on topically, but you can also

585
00:30:18,210 --> 00:30:20,700
S3: just consume it, and it will help promote your growth

586
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:21,840
S3: by just consuming it.

587
00:30:22,050 --> 00:30:26,160
S1: Is that because endogenous superoxide dismutase can accelerate hair loss?

588
00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:29,250
S2: Uh, yeah. And also one of the things that people

589
00:30:29,250 --> 00:30:31,140
S2: notice that comes here, if you got totally white hair,

590
00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:34,710
S2: it'll come back salt and pepper because C60 works at,

591
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:38,250
S2: as it says, a sod catalyst and catalyst. Not having

592
00:30:38,250 --> 00:30:42,240
S2: enough catalase is the reason why your hair gets, uh, gets, uh,

593
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,180
S2: kids white. So people come back salt and pepper. But

594
00:30:45,180 --> 00:30:47,070
S2: the main thing is it just gets in there. And,

595
00:30:47,070 --> 00:30:49,740
S2: you know, as we're getting older, there just not enough.

596
00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:52,290
S2: Or there's just the mitochondria action in our cells is

597
00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:55,890
S2: just dropping because the cells aren't getting enough sod catalase.

598
00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:58,830
S2: And so when you take that it restarts the energy

599
00:30:58,860 --> 00:31:02,850
S2: ATP production in your cell or hair follicles. And it

600
00:31:02,850 --> 00:31:05,550
S2: just appears to cause the hair to grow, uh, to

601
00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:07,530
S2: grow fast. Anybody that takes it. Also, you notice your

602
00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:09,240
S2: nails will grow much faster.

603
00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:12,510
S1: Oh, wow. That explains it. My nails have been sprouting

604
00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:14,610
S1: since I met with you that conference. Jessica. I probably

605
00:31:14,610 --> 00:31:16,830
S1: average like two two gummies a day since then.

606
00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:19,260
S3: Yeah, they're hair, nails.

607
00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:22,020
S2: Skin the same way. The skin? Yeah. One of the

608
00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:25,950
S2: things they discovered is C60 also increases stem cell production.

609
00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:29,670
S2: And and this was discovered accidentally. They did a study

610
00:31:29,670 --> 00:31:33,270
S2: where they were, you know, C60 is a antioxidant and

611
00:31:33,270 --> 00:31:35,820
S2: it's known to like, suppress arthritis. So they were doing

612
00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:39,479
S2: a study where they gave rats, they gave these rabbits arthritis,

613
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,690
S2: and then they injected C60 into their joints. And of course,

614
00:31:42,780 --> 00:31:46,290
S2: inflammation in those rabbits went way down, which was expected.

615
00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:48,720
S2: But when they, you know, sacrificed the rabbits and looked

616
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,390
S2: at the joints, they found that the cartilage had regrown,

617
00:31:51,570 --> 00:31:55,260
S2: which was unexpected. And and then from there they found

618
00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:56,730
S2: out what one of the things is. There's a lot

619
00:31:56,730 --> 00:31:59,580
S2: of cells in our bodies, senescent cells. And you probably

620
00:31:59,580 --> 00:32:02,700
S2: talked about it in your other talks. And senescent cells

621
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:05,940
S2: are like zombie cells. There's usually the DNA damage. Maybe

622
00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:09,120
S2: the telomeres are too short. And and they go into

623
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,130
S2: this fermentation mode where they stop doing the oxygenate oxygen process,

624
00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:16,500
S2: the Krebs cycle, and they do fermentation. And part of

625
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,010
S2: that they, they, they take OCS, they start making sod, catalase,

626
00:32:20,010 --> 00:32:23,640
S2: glutathione and other things that the mitochondria use. So the

627
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,640
S2: mitochondria are forced to go into the fermentation mode, where

628
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,850
S2: they're burning sugar like, you know, fermentation mode. So those

629
00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:31,980
S2: cells are going to be producing alcohols which poison the

630
00:32:31,980 --> 00:32:36,930
S2: cells around them. And, and, and inflammatory cytokines. So when

631
00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:40,680
S2: you take C60, C60 goes into the mitochondria of senescent cells,

632
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,640
S2: it goes right in restarts those mitochondria. And they they

633
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,090
S2: will send messages to the nuclear DNA of the senescent cell.

634
00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:50,190
S2: And they will not get the right message back. And

635
00:32:50,190 --> 00:32:53,220
S2: that causes the mitochondria will then will blow themselves up

636
00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:57,570
S2: and initiate apoptosis, which is programmed cell death. So so

637
00:32:57,570 --> 00:33:00,210
S2: when you take C60 it just wipes out senescent cells

638
00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:03,360
S2: all over your body. Now your body or tissue doesn't

639
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,540
S2: have enough cells because the senescent cells are gone. So

640
00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:09,930
S2: it stimulates stem cell production. I mean, we had we

641
00:33:09,930 --> 00:33:12,690
S2: have a guy that here he had like seven years old.

642
00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:15,780
S2: It's best when they take out the apoptotic, the fat

643
00:33:15,780 --> 00:33:18,510
S2: tissue for stem cells. And he had this. He went

644
00:33:18,510 --> 00:33:20,400
S2: in and you know, he had the he they took

645
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,500
S2: the tissue out. And then the doctors come running out

646
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,300
S2: and say, what are you what are you doing? You have,

647
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:28,620
S2: you know, he had something like, uh. He had, uh,

648
00:33:29,370 --> 00:33:32,250
S2: he had 73 million stem cells, which is like something

649
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:35,370
S2: like a teenager would have. And, uh, so and that's

650
00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:37,950
S2: and that's because he was taking C60. So a lot

651
00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:41,160
S2: of doctors, uh, really like people to take C60 before

652
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,270
S2: surgery or. And that's also the reason why after surgery.

653
00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:47,790
S1: Yeah. Except of course, you gotta be cautious with the

654
00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:49,170
S1: blood thinning component, right?

655
00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:51,600
S2: Yeah. Exactly. For that. And that's also why that's the

656
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,690
S2: reason why they finally discovered is why the skin got

657
00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:57,300
S2: better with the Japanese women on the facial cream. Because

658
00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:59,310
S2: if you have more stem cells, then you have a

659
00:33:59,310 --> 00:34:03,510
S2: quicker and thicker renewal of your skin. And that also

660
00:34:03,510 --> 00:34:05,790
S2: applies to the gut. If people that take C60 say,

661
00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:08,640
S2: you know, let their all the all sorts of, uh,

662
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:14,370
S2: digestive issues, whether it's leaky gut or in other inflammatory

663
00:34:14,370 --> 00:34:17,370
S2: issues and their gut go way down. And so that's

664
00:34:17,370 --> 00:34:19,500
S2: why a lot of people think C60 is for those things.

665
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:22,650
S1: Okay, probably more advanced like 2.0 use case question. But

666
00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:25,290
S1: based on what you said about arthritis, do you guys

667
00:34:25,290 --> 00:34:28,380
S1: know of any regenerative medicine physicians who might be using

668
00:34:28,380 --> 00:34:30,750
S1: this as a form of pro therapy, like direct injection

669
00:34:30,750 --> 00:34:33,690
S1: of C60 into joints, for example, the same as you

670
00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:36,180
S1: would do with PRP or a dextrose solution or something

671
00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:36,900
S1: like that? I don't know.

672
00:34:37,050 --> 00:34:40,500
S3: Injecting it directly, but we we have a tremendous amount

673
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:43,859
S3: of doctors that utilize C60 in the protocol. In fact, um.

674
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:46,290
S1: You mean you mean, uh, you mean you mean orally?

675
00:34:46,469 --> 00:34:48,420
S3: Yes, orally. I don't I don't know about any that

676
00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:50,790
S3: are injecting it, per se, but I, I want to

677
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:55,890
S3: say one thing here regarding the arthritis. Again, disclaimer C60

678
00:34:55,890 --> 00:35:00,209
S3: is not going to cure anything. Uh, but people we find, um,

679
00:35:00,870 --> 00:35:04,920
S3: very commonly across the board that it, um, provides, uh,

680
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,440
S3: some form of relief in terms of, you know, the cracking,

681
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:16,950
S3: the popping, the aching that you experience with, you know, knees, shoulders, cracks. Yeah. So, um,

682
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:22,170
S3: it's it's quite popular with anybody that is helping people

683
00:35:22,170 --> 00:35:26,340
S3: with nerve spine joint issues. Um, we have a tremendous

684
00:35:26,340 --> 00:35:30,750
S3: amount of doctors using it, uh, specifically to provide relief

685
00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:32,790
S3: on those inflammatory conditions.

686
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:36,030
S1: Have any studies been done on on C60 in cancer?

687
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,200
S2: Uh, well, uh, that's, uh, yeah. We don't want to

688
00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:43,589
S2: touch the third rail here, but yes, there have been

689
00:35:43,590 --> 00:35:47,640
S2: they have been successful in animal studies. Uh, I can

690
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,810
S2: tell you anecdotal for humans, but we probably shouldn't go there. And, uh, uh,

691
00:35:51,810 --> 00:35:53,580
S2: just because of the. It's a hot topic. Yeah. That's

692
00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:56,940
S2: the third rail. Yes, that's the third rail.

693
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,330
S1: Now, now you've got several different kind of types of C6.

694
00:36:00,330 --> 00:36:02,759
S1: You got the avocado oil, I believe you have an

695
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,940
S1: olive oil MCT and these gummies. Why do you have

696
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:08,489
S1: like so many different types of oils? Why not just

697
00:36:08,489 --> 00:36:09,330
S1: stick with one?

698
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:15,390
S3: Um, really, it's about choice, Ben. It's what do people prefer? Uh,

699
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:18,750
S3: as a consumer, the avocado oil is great for people

700
00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:22,379
S3: who are new to consuming healthy oils on a daily basis.

701
00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:25,440
S3: It's easy to digest. Uh, you can use it, you know,

702
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,660
S3: as a if you're going to make homemade salad dressing,

703
00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:31,410
S3: it's great for that. The MCT is phenomenal. And coffee,

704
00:36:31,410 --> 00:36:35,370
S3: it's great in smoothies. Um, and the olive oil is

705
00:36:35,370 --> 00:36:37,890
S3: great for folks that are intermittent fasting when they break

706
00:36:37,890 --> 00:36:40,170
S3: their fast, if they want to drizzle the olive oil

707
00:36:40,170 --> 00:36:42,480
S3: on a salad or veggies or put it in a soup,

708
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,049
S3: they can do that. But it it boils down to just, uh,

709
00:36:46,050 --> 00:36:49,799
S3: personal preference and choice. The avocado oil in the olive

710
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,460
S3: oil hold more C60 due to the structure of the oil,

711
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:57,660
S3: the MCT holds a little bit less. Um, so typically, uh,

712
00:36:57,660 --> 00:37:00,060
S3: you know, the folks that will use the MCT will

713
00:37:00,060 --> 00:37:04,230
S3: typically take a tablespoon with the olive oil and the

714
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:07,350
S3: avocado oil. They can just take a teaspoon. Uh, but nonetheless,

715
00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:10,230
S3: it's all powerful. And it just boils down to what

716
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:12,240
S3: do you prefer? How do you prefer to consume it?

717
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,520
S3: And you're the first person I've ever heard. And I'd

718
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,500
S3: love that you do this, that you freeze the gummies

719
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:19,080
S3: and that you put it in your smoothie. Because, you know,

720
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,670
S3: we really encourage people to, um, incorporated into their lifestyle

721
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:26,609
S3: as they see best, you know, however, it works for

722
00:37:26,610 --> 00:37:28,920
S3: you to get it into your system in your morning routine.

723
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,899
S3: That's ideal. And I think the way that you're doing

724
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:31,650
S3: it is perfect.

725
00:37:31,739 --> 00:37:34,200
S2: And don't forget, we also have C60 for pets.

726
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,330
S1: You mean like for like for the skin or the

727
00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:37,469
S1: hair or something like that?

728
00:37:37,469 --> 00:37:40,050
S2: Oh, no. We're usually internally. I mean, we take the we,

729
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,600
S2: we have actually some up on our C60. Purple power

730
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,080
S2: is our YouTube website and there's some. Yeah. See there's no,

731
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,720
S2: there's no, uh, when you give it to pets, they

732
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,330
S2: just do really great because there's no placebo effect with pets.

733
00:37:51,330 --> 00:37:52,319
S2: And so so.

734
00:37:52,469 --> 00:37:56,700
S3: The folks that have concerns about their aging pets, uh,

735
00:37:56,700 --> 00:38:01,140
S3: with mobility, with energy levels, with cognitive function, um, you know,

736
00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:03,390
S3: a lot of, a lot of our customers, uh, give

737
00:38:03,390 --> 00:38:06,509
S3: it to, you know, puppies or newer animals. But the

738
00:38:06,510 --> 00:38:10,290
S3: folks that provide the most amount of feedback are individuals

739
00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:12,540
S3: who have aging pets, who are struggling with some kind

740
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:16,680
S3: of age related inflammatory issue, and C60 tends to provide

741
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,330
S3: relief in the energy mobility. And, um, just the, you know,

742
00:38:21,330 --> 00:38:23,910
S3: I would say the sponginess of a of a pet.

743
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:28,370
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745
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746
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747
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748
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749
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751
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757
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761
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764
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765
00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:07,520
S1: look at some of these studies on longevity, they'll combine

766
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,350
S1: for example like a growth hormone with metformin and DHEA

767
00:40:12,350 --> 00:40:15,620
S1: to combat some of the potential for insulin surges from

768
00:40:15,620 --> 00:40:18,620
S1: the growth hormone. You'll see other stacks of peptides like

769
00:40:18,620 --> 00:40:22,550
S1: BPC 157 and TB 500 to hit joint pain from

770
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:25,730
S1: a couple of different angles when it comes to C60,

771
00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:28,850
S1: whether via studies or reports from your customers, is there

772
00:40:28,850 --> 00:40:31,190
S1: anything that it stacks well with as far as something

773
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:35,660
S1: that could enhance the effects or mitigate any downstream effects

774
00:40:35,660 --> 00:40:36,620
S1: or anything like that?

775
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:41,690
S2: Well, actually we found that using hydrogen, water, C60 and

776
00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:45,560
S2: hydrogen gas therapy worked together like chocolate and peanut butter.

777
00:40:45,590 --> 00:40:46,310
S1: Why is that?

778
00:40:46,580 --> 00:40:49,009
S2: Well, C60 is kind of like a hydrogen sponge. And

779
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:53,330
S2: hydrogen gas is also like an antioxidant. And it's all

780
00:40:53,330 --> 00:40:56,210
S2: part of the process that C60 works. We've had people

781
00:40:56,210 --> 00:40:59,870
S2: go from mid-pack to champions in their field. Uh, athletically

782
00:40:59,870 --> 00:41:02,569
S2: we can't name names, but oh, by the way, C60

783
00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:05,569
S2: is banned by any athletic organization. And so we have

784
00:41:05,570 --> 00:41:08,510
S2: just many, many athletes use the C60, especially with the

785
00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:11,240
S2: MCT coconut oil because, as you know, MCTs could give

786
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,149
S2: you that extra boost. So we've had uh, yeah, we've

787
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:16,700
S2: had uh, some champions in the field. But what do you.

788
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:19,100
S1: What do you mean from mid-pack to champions in the field.

789
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,090
S1: That's a pretty big play. Yeah.

790
00:41:20,090 --> 00:41:22,070
S2: That means they went for like, you know, third and

791
00:41:22,070 --> 00:41:24,710
S2: fourth place. Fifth place to first place.

792
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,820
S1: In like endurance sports from a running or strength training.

793
00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:32,300
S2: Or running, bicycling, motorcycle riding, things like that. Yeah. That's

794
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:34,640
S2: that's where C60 does a thing. What they do is

795
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,500
S2: they'll put like a little bit of MCT oil in

796
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:38,000
S2: the water, or they'll have their people, you know, as

797
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,850
S2: they're doing the the laps, they'll put a little MCT

798
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,370
S2: oil with the water, and the water is hydrogen gas

799
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:45,469
S2: water and the MCT oil. Then they'll take that. And

800
00:41:45,469 --> 00:41:48,080
S2: and it gives you like, it gives you just a

801
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,709
S2: boost of energy, a boost of antioxidant activity. Because people

802
00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:54,230
S2: that take C60 like the gym rats and stuff, they

803
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:56,239
S2: use it. I mean they can all they'll they'll take

804
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,080
S2: C60 now, they can lift longer, do more reps, and

805
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,660
S2: they can outcompete the guys that they know in the gym.

806
00:42:02,660 --> 00:42:04,489
S2: And they say, what are you doing? You know, because

807
00:42:04,489 --> 00:42:08,030
S2: now they've gone beyond anything that they've ever they've, they've

808
00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:09,020
S2: been able to do before.

809
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:10,850
S1: It's kind of funny. You you bring this up too,

810
00:42:10,850 --> 00:42:14,810
S1: because like my, my airplane bag is the gummies, then

811
00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:18,740
S1: hydrogen tablets, ketone esters and magnesium like that. That's kind

812
00:42:18,739 --> 00:42:22,190
S1: of like my antioxidant of airline travel stack.

813
00:42:22,190 --> 00:42:25,130
S3: Well, one of your questions, um, to your question about

814
00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:29,780
S3: stacking one of our doctors that works with a he's

815
00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:33,470
S3: not our doctor, he's just a doctor that utilizes C60

816
00:42:33,469 --> 00:42:36,620
S3: in his practice. But he works with, um, quite a

817
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:41,630
S3: significant amount of professional and retired athletes. Um, some of

818
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:44,300
S3: them who have, you know, traumatic brain injury. And in

819
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:47,150
S3: terms of stacking, what he shared with us is that

820
00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:50,390
S3: he's got like a mitochondrial supplement that he's created, but

821
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:53,839
S3: he does the ketone esters, um, along with the C60,

822
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,270
S3: and that is his morning routine with his coffee and

823
00:42:56,270 --> 00:42:58,820
S3: that he's just like, I feel and he's he's an

824
00:42:58,820 --> 00:43:03,680
S3: athlete himself. Um, uh, and he's like, I've, I'm performing better,

825
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,750
S3: thinking better than I have in my entire life.

826
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:08,210
S1: And are there new products that you guys have your

827
00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:11,630
S1: eyes on developing that you C60 besides taking my smoothie

828
00:43:11,630 --> 00:43:14,060
S1: recipe and, you know, putting that into an easy to use.

829
00:43:14,060 --> 00:43:17,660
S3: Back then, we've, um, we've been creating a topical line

830
00:43:17,660 --> 00:43:20,000
S3: and we're going to have additional products coming out here

831
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,670
S3: in the next year. But, um, to, you know, Ken's

832
00:43:22,670 --> 00:43:27,170
S3: comment about the human studies with Japanese women. And we've

833
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,540
S3: created a C60 Youth Renewal Eye cream, which is phenomenal

834
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:35,360
S3: for the delicate skin around your eyes. We have a

835
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,400
S3: C60 anti-gravity serum, which is specifically designed to help lift

836
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,360
S3: and improve the quality and youthfulness of the skin. Um,

837
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,279
S3: we also have C60 sexy, which is an edible massage oil. Oh.

838
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,200
S1: It's edible. I didn't realize that you sent me some.

839
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,379
S1: I forgot the edible part. Oh, that's that's that's good

840
00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:54,890
S1: to know.

841
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,880
S3: It works wonders. Um, both for men and for women.

842
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,469
S3: Especially if there are any dryness issues. Um, it this

843
00:44:03,469 --> 00:44:04,549
S3: is safe anywhere.

844
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:06,410
S2: Yeah. And that's the other one. A big side effect

845
00:44:06,410 --> 00:44:09,710
S2: of C60 is a great a significant increase in libido

846
00:44:09,710 --> 00:44:10,580
S2: in both men and women.

847
00:44:10,580 --> 00:44:13,160
S1: So why do you think that would happen? I mean,

848
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,520
S1: usually an antioxidant doesn't have a direct impact on libido.

849
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,029
S2: But what it does is C60 restarts the mitochondria, especially

850
00:44:20,030 --> 00:44:23,540
S2: in your adrenals and and the mitochondria make them. So

851
00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:26,299
S2: you're now you got like huge increase in androgens. And

852
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:27,980
S2: so people get like better sleep because you're going to

853
00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:31,790
S2: get more melatonin, more HDL and other things in your

854
00:44:31,790 --> 00:44:36,200
S2: hypothalamus and the stuff in your pituitary and also your adrenals,

855
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,620
S2: of course, make the androgens which then are turned into testosterone, estrogen.

856
00:44:39,710 --> 00:44:42,320
S2: And so that's another thing that people notice is, uh,

857
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,710
S2: body lifters. When they take C60, they can add extra

858
00:44:45,710 --> 00:44:48,710
S2: muscle mass, especially for older body lifters. So that's and

859
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,770
S2: also like for instance as example typical. We had a

860
00:44:51,770 --> 00:44:54,560
S2: guy seven years old, he goes to his doctor, he's

861
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,890
S2: got 350 right. And then testosterone levels which are pretty low.

862
00:44:57,890 --> 00:45:00,739
S2: The doctor puts them on creams. He's like low seven hundreds.

863
00:45:00,739 --> 00:45:02,960
S2: Then he takes C60. A couple months later he goes

864
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,530
S2: into his doctor. His, uh, his testosterone levels are 1200.

865
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,779
S2: So the doctor backs him up on the creams a

866
00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:09,230
S2: little bit.

867
00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:11,300
S3: I want to kind of just weigh in here on

868
00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:14,089
S3: this because it does. It sounds a little bit too

869
00:45:14,090 --> 00:45:17,240
S3: good to be true. The reality is it helps to

870
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,200
S3: balance out hormones by activating for me alone. So, um,

871
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,440
S3: you can see a gradual lift. Again, it's not a drug.

872
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,140
S3: So this is not this is not a miracle. And

873
00:45:27,140 --> 00:45:30,560
S3: I'll be all this is a very powerful antioxidant that, again,

874
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,500
S3: helps to neutralize the free radicals and the oxidative stress.

875
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:35,630
S3: It just helps to create that environment where your body

876
00:45:35,630 --> 00:45:38,060
S3: can do what it's supposed to do naturally. But that

877
00:45:38,060 --> 00:45:42,319
S3: being said, Ben, it's not for everyone. Uh, it's it's

878
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,440
S3: really well intended for it's it's best for people that

879
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,860
S3: are on, you know, the, the healthy lifestyle choice bandwagon

880
00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:52,009
S3: because it works well with that for the folks. People are,

881
00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:55,489
S3: you know, drinking alcohol every single day and eating fast food.

882
00:45:55,489 --> 00:45:59,900
S3: C60 might not be the thing for you. It's very expensive. Uh,

883
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:03,800
S3: it's expensive to manufacture, and it works best when you're

884
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,219
S3: already on your path of, you know, being, uh, can

885
00:46:07,340 --> 00:46:11,270
S3: consider it about your your quality of sleep, your, uh,

886
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,770
S3: your daily movement, exercise, you know, staying hydrated. And it

887
00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:19,730
S3: works great with, um, other supplements. So if you already

888
00:46:19,730 --> 00:46:23,480
S3: are on a protocol or if you've, uh, plateaued and

889
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,080
S3: you're not experiencing, um, you know, great results on your

890
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,750
S3: existing protocol, if you incorporate C60 and it can kind

891
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:32,840
S3: of help, um, boost it and get and get you

892
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,460
S3: back on the on the right track.

893
00:46:34,580 --> 00:46:36,739
S1: That surprises me. You describe it like that because I

894
00:46:36,739 --> 00:46:40,400
S1: would expect a lifestyle and diet pattern that creates more

895
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,600
S1: oxidative stress to be in a population that would benefit

896
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,630
S1: more from C60, and that people who are already healthy,

897
00:46:48,020 --> 00:46:51,290
S1: arguably creating more endogenous antioxidants and getting more of them

898
00:46:51,290 --> 00:46:55,190
S1: from food based sources like polyphenols and flavanols, might be

899
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:58,100
S1: people for whom C60 is like the icing on the cake,

900
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:01,549
S1: whereas people with a very stressful oxidative lifestyle would really

901
00:47:01,550 --> 00:47:02,540
S1: benefit from it.

902
00:47:02,989 --> 00:47:05,930
S3: Well, the thing is, is that oftentimes we found that

903
00:47:05,930 --> 00:47:09,560
S3: the folks that don't that aren't embracing those healthy lifestyle choices,

904
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,500
S3: they're expecting a reaction like a drug. And that's not

905
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:16,339
S3: what C60 is. They're very tend to get very frustrated

906
00:47:16,340 --> 00:47:19,219
S3: if they don't have immediate response. And those individuals we

907
00:47:19,219 --> 00:47:23,180
S3: found typically aren't dialed in to subtle energies or shifts

908
00:47:23,180 --> 00:47:26,150
S3: in their body. And so they're quick to quit. They're

909
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:29,779
S3: also quick to not incorporate it and follow, um, you know,

910
00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:32,450
S3: a 30 day test about like what's going to happen

911
00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:35,930
S3: with those shifts. And so it's, um, I think it's

912
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,930
S3: not that it wouldn't or couldn't benefit them, but it

913
00:47:38,930 --> 00:47:42,020
S3: might not they might just not be successful using it

914
00:47:42,020 --> 00:47:45,410
S3: because they're going to expect something like some kind of

915
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:46,850
S3: reaction they would get from a drug. And that's not

916
00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:48,920
S3: what C60 is. Like I said, it's it's a powerful

917
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,070
S3: antioxidant and it takes time. It took a long time

918
00:47:52,070 --> 00:47:55,940
S3: for your body to develop any issues related to chronic inflammation,

919
00:47:55,940 --> 00:47:58,460
S3: and it's going to take time to work, um, those

920
00:47:58,460 --> 00:48:01,730
S3: issues out. And it's a it's a process. The healing

921
00:48:01,730 --> 00:48:04,040
S3: journey is a process. And so we think it's best

922
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,410
S3: suited for folks that are, you know, committed to that.

923
00:48:06,410 --> 00:48:08,930
S3: And they're doing a lot of different things to support

924
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:11,810
S3: their body. And they want to have quality of life

925
00:48:11,810 --> 00:48:13,430
S3: at every stage and phase of life.

926
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:16,340
S1: Okay. That makes sense. And is is it naturally is

927
00:48:16,340 --> 00:48:18,800
S1: a weird question, but I've always wondered this didn't naturally

928
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,170
S1: like purplish blue. Or do you have some kind of

929
00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:23,810
S1: tomfoolery trickery you're doing in your in your labs to

930
00:48:23,810 --> 00:48:24,770
S1: make it purple?

931
00:48:25,070 --> 00:48:27,090
S2: Yeah, actually, it's, uh, I don't know how. It comes. Yeah.

932
00:48:27,090 --> 00:48:29,610
S2: It's actually purple when you. This isn't like if you

933
00:48:29,610 --> 00:48:32,460
S2: dissolve it in like MCT oil, it turns it a

934
00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:34,650
S2: purple color. And that's why the company's name was originally

935
00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:36,990
S2: Purple Power because it, it kind of turns it a

936
00:48:36,989 --> 00:48:39,690
S2: purple color. And, and that's just a, that's just the

937
00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:43,320
S2: color of C60. C60 dissolved in an oil turns a purple.

938
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,230
S2: So an MCT, it's purple. And like avocado, olive oil,

939
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:48,509
S2: it turns it like a dark amber. And so it

940
00:48:48,510 --> 00:48:50,610
S2: should be clear. So you can actually tell the the

941
00:48:50,610 --> 00:48:53,310
S2: purity and quality of your C60 by just looking at

942
00:48:53,310 --> 00:48:54,540
S2: the oil color. Okay.

943
00:48:54,780 --> 00:48:57,000
S1: Is it is it a heat stable? I've always obviously

944
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,590
S1: I keep the gummies in the freezer just because I

945
00:48:58,590 --> 00:49:00,569
S1: like the texture, but I'm curious if these oils should

946
00:49:00,570 --> 00:49:01,410
S1: be kept cool.

947
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,530
S2: They're just like with any oil. They should be taken

948
00:49:04,530 --> 00:49:06,750
S2: care of, you know? Best to keep it, keep it

949
00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:09,120
S2: out of the sun and also don't heat it up.

950
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,020
S2: But but C60 actually extends the lifespan of oils from

951
00:49:13,020 --> 00:49:16,049
S2: around 60. But we you know, it's it's just it's

952
00:49:16,050 --> 00:49:19,140
S2: just just respected as a regular oil. But we have

953
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:22,890
S2: about two year lifespan on the MCT, on the avocado,

954
00:49:22,890 --> 00:49:25,890
S2: the olive oil, the MCT oil. It's still good after

955
00:49:25,890 --> 00:49:26,400
S2: five years.

956
00:49:26,550 --> 00:49:30,000
S3: Um, but then to answer your question, uh, you don't

957
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,860
S3: want to cook with it. It's not intended as a

958
00:49:31,860 --> 00:49:33,930
S3: cooking oil. So you do you do not want to

959
00:49:33,930 --> 00:49:36,779
S3: heat it up. You just you can add it to

960
00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:39,900
S3: coffee or to tea or just smoothies or salads or

961
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:43,049
S3: soups afterwards. But don't. It's not a cooking oil.

962
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,069
S1: How competitive is the market in C60? Because obviously I've

963
00:49:47,070 --> 00:49:50,700
S1: seen it becoming more popular. You guys are one company where,

964
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:52,650
S1: you know, we we just kind of got lucky and

965
00:49:52,650 --> 00:49:55,859
S1: connected at that health conference, the Consumer Health Summit. Jessica

966
00:49:55,860 --> 00:49:57,810
S1: and I've been a fan ever since, so I really

967
00:49:57,810 --> 00:50:00,030
S1: haven't like looked into the marketplace. But is it a

968
00:50:00,030 --> 00:50:02,010
S1: pretty saturated marketplace with C60?

969
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,940
S3: Um, you know what? There's there's about 38 different companies

970
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:08,400
S3: that have popped up, you know, over the last five

971
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,029
S3: years doing what we do. And there's a handful, I

972
00:50:12,030 --> 00:50:14,370
S3: would say I can identify about 3 or 4 companies

973
00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:17,100
S3: outside of ours that are doing a good job. Um,

974
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:20,580
S3: but the reality has been most of them, uh, most

975
00:50:20,580 --> 00:50:23,520
S3: of the other competitors are getting their supply from one

976
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,040
S3: single source that is using, um.

977
00:50:26,550 --> 00:50:29,400
S1: That, that, that benzene extraction. Yeah.

978
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,940
S3: And they're all getting it from that company. And then they've,

979
00:50:32,940 --> 00:50:36,450
S3: that company has created some special, unique names for C60

980
00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:38,670
S3: as kind of like a marketing gimmick to, to pretend

981
00:50:38,670 --> 00:50:43,650
S3: like it's better other than being a solvent based C60. So, um,

982
00:50:43,650 --> 00:50:49,380
S3: the bottom line is that quality matters. You want 99.99%

983
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:52,950
S3: pure C60 sublimated or sublime if you can get it,

984
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:56,190
S3: and you really want to be conscious of the oils

985
00:50:56,190 --> 00:51:00,150
S3: that they're using. Some companies are selling C60. For example,

986
00:51:00,150 --> 00:51:02,790
S3: in sunflower oil, you don't want to be consuming sunflower

987
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:04,440
S3: oil that causes inflammation.

988
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:07,529
S1: Um, well, it depends. I mean, if it's cold pressed

989
00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:09,540
S1: cold extract, it was very difficult to find, you know,

990
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:12,569
S1: like Andreas, the seed oils up in Canada, they do

991
00:51:12,570 --> 00:51:14,820
S1: a pretty decent sunflower extract, but you still got to

992
00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:16,319
S1: be pretty careful with sunflower.

993
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,410
S3: Yeah. So, um, the other thing is we, we third

994
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:23,549
S3: party test, um, every single manufacturing run for, for quality,

995
00:51:23,550 --> 00:51:29,010
S3: for safety, for bioavailability, bio bioavailability. Um, and for purity.

996
00:51:29,010 --> 00:51:32,250
S3: So um, that's that information is available on all of

997
00:51:32,250 --> 00:51:35,100
S3: our products. We have a QR code that you can

998
00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:37,440
S3: scan on everything and see that. And it should be important.

999
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,750
S2: There's some people out there more than a few that

1000
00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:42,360
S2: have no C60 in their product. It's like.

1001
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,110
S3: An activated.

1002
00:51:43,110 --> 00:51:48,299
S2: Charcoal. Yes, low quality C60, uh, low concentrations of C60. But,

1003
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:50,549
S2: you know, we send it to third party testing and

1004
00:51:50,550 --> 00:51:52,620
S2: you can get, you know, no micro and you can

1005
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:55,319
S2: get the actual C60 concentration. So, you know, and no

1006
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,460
S2: microbiological contamination. So, you know, your product is safe and effective. And,

1007
00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:01,469
S2: and so and I believe we're the only company that

1008
00:52:01,469 --> 00:52:03,450
S2: actually does that that has the QR code.

1009
00:52:03,450 --> 00:52:05,040
S1: And do you guys think you're going to make anything

1010
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,560
S1: else besides the, the oil products and the gummies?

1011
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,860
S3: Yeah, I mean, we're I think the, uh, going down

1012
00:52:10,860 --> 00:52:13,680
S3: this path with the skincare, we're going to continue to

1013
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,270
S3: roll out different, um, products with C60 that are great

1014
00:52:18,270 --> 00:52:21,480
S3: for the human body, clean, clean products for the human body.

1015
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,350
S1: Yeah. Could could you do like meal replacement shakes, bars,

1016
00:52:25,350 --> 00:52:27,000
S1: you know, things like that. With this it seems like

1017
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,250
S1: it'd be kind of low hanging fruit to do, like,

1018
00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:30,509
S1: you know, like, what do you do with the gummies?

1019
00:52:30,510 --> 00:52:32,759
S1: But do that as, like a, like a bar based

1020
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,350
S1: food product or something like that.

1021
00:52:34,590 --> 00:52:36,480
S2: Let's just say things are and also, you know, maybe,

1022
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,230
S2: perhaps even, you know, beverages type of stuff. So but that's, that's,

1023
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:43,500
S2: that's future products that are under development. And you don't

1024
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:45,690
S2: want to talk too much about that. Okay. But there

1025
00:52:45,690 --> 00:52:47,850
S2: will be more things like that coming out. Absolutely.

1026
00:52:47,850 --> 00:52:50,850
S1: Well, you know, these are, uh, these are really cool products.

1027
00:52:50,850 --> 00:52:52,500
S1: I recommend if people want to try anything. If you're

1028
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:54,390
S1: like me, try the gummies. If you don't like gummies,

1029
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:56,730
S1: I would say, like Jessica and Ken said, maybe start

1030
00:52:56,730 --> 00:52:58,770
S1: with the olive oil. So you got some kind of

1031
00:52:58,770 --> 00:53:01,830
S1: palatable or even the avocado oil. Uh, the MCT oil

1032
00:53:01,860 --> 00:53:04,350
S1: can be an acquired taste. Don't overdo it if you

1033
00:53:04,350 --> 00:53:07,680
S1: don't want so-called disaster pants, but the MCT is also

1034
00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:10,200
S1: the MCT is a flavor enhancer as well, so it

1035
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,980
S1: works really great just sprinkled on the food or, or, uh, or,

1036
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:17,100
S1: you know, spread on the food. So anyways, I will, uh,

1037
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:19,650
S1: I'll link to your website. I know you guys have

1038
00:53:19,650 --> 00:53:21,810
S1: a discount code for us and all that good stuff,

1039
00:53:21,810 --> 00:53:26,700
S1: so I'll put that at Ben Greenfield life.com/purple power. Podcast. Uh,

1040
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:28,350
S1: anything else you guys wanted to share while I have

1041
00:53:28,350 --> 00:53:28,710
S1: you on?

1042
00:53:29,370 --> 00:53:32,010
S3: Yeah. I think, you know, you'd asked about the the

1043
00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:35,700
S3: human studies, and I think it's important to mention just, uh.

1044
00:53:35,850 --> 00:53:37,500
S3: And Kenny could dive in here a little bit deeper,

1045
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:40,860
S3: but the T60, uh, in human studies has been proven

1046
00:53:40,860 --> 00:53:44,700
S3: to promote a balanced immune response and also a balanced

1047
00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:48,000
S3: allergic response. And that's part of the reason why, you know,

1048
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,950
S3: my seasonal allergies, why I've been able to experience some relief. Um,

1049
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:57,149
S3: it specifically because it can keep that overreaction in your

1050
00:53:57,150 --> 00:54:01,110
S3: body at bay. Basically keep a cytokine storm from freaking out.

1051
00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:03,089
S3: The other thing is I want to mention to Ben,

1052
00:54:03,090 --> 00:54:06,810
S3: because I know we talked about this in, in passing, um,

1053
00:54:06,810 --> 00:54:10,590
S3: that over the last couple of years with, with the

1054
00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:14,340
S3: pandemic flu. Um, you know, we haven't talked much about

1055
00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:18,030
S3: that at all, um, intentionally. But the reality is folks

1056
00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:21,750
S3: that have, you know, suffered from long haulers, oftentimes they're

1057
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:25,950
S3: dealing with chronic fatigue and just the inability for, um,

1058
00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:28,920
S3: you know, their brain to function appropriately. And so we

1059
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,739
S3: have anecdotally gotten a tremendous amount of feedback from people

1060
00:54:31,739 --> 00:54:34,980
S3: who've said, I've tried, you know, uh, a tremendous amount

1061
00:54:34,980 --> 00:54:38,759
S3: of different, um, you know, supplements or things that they

1062
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,310
S3: think could help. And C60 has been the thing that's

1063
00:54:41,310 --> 00:54:43,799
S3: moved the needle for them specifically because of supporting the

1064
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,520
S3: mitochondrial function and addressing, you know, the oxidative stress and

1065
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,180
S3: the free radicals.

1066
00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:50,310
S2: Yeah. That's we get reports about all the time. It's

1067
00:54:50,310 --> 00:54:52,109
S2: like the only thing that's ever worked. And for us

1068
00:54:52,110 --> 00:54:52,590
S2: and so.

1069
00:54:52,590 --> 00:54:55,800
S3: So if I can say one thing about C60, if

1070
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,230
S3: people are struggling with one issue because we've we've covered

1071
00:54:58,230 --> 00:55:00,029
S3: a variety of things today. And to your point, in

1072
00:55:00,030 --> 00:55:02,310
S3: the beginning, like maybe your spidey senses are going off.

1073
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,760
S3: It really helps support. It really helps support energy and

1074
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,339
S3: mental clarity. And that's the bottom line. If you, you know,

1075
00:55:08,340 --> 00:55:10,950
S3: and over the age of 40, our bodies are producing

1076
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:14,190
S3: less antioxidants naturally. And so C60 is helping to just

1077
00:55:14,190 --> 00:55:16,980
S3: support and balance that. And that's what it does. It's again,

1078
00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:20,009
S3: not a cure, not going to treat anything or mitigate

1079
00:55:20,010 --> 00:55:22,680
S3: a disease or prevent any diseases. But over the age

1080
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,770
S3: of 40 when your body is producing less antioxidants, is

1081
00:55:25,770 --> 00:55:29,940
S3: just a supportive, powerful antioxidant to help address that inflammation. And,

1082
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:31,890
S3: you know, being in the flu and cold season right

1083
00:55:31,890 --> 00:55:33,690
S3: now in the middle of winter, uh, it's a it's

1084
00:55:33,690 --> 00:55:36,270
S3: a great time to try it, if you're just curious.

1085
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,790
S1: Excellent. Okay, cool. This gives us a lot of use cases. And, uh, again,

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S1: I'm biased, but I recommend freezing some gummies and drop

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S1: them into your smoothie. But whoever you guys listening in

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S1: It's actually pretty cool. And if you do dig into

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S1: the research, there is some solid research. This isn't just

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S2: It's a site called what is C60 org okay, that

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S2: is it's like a 503 C. And so you can

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S2: you can go there to learn about all the studies.

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S1: Yeah I like some of those third party independent websites

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S1: was the name of that website again? Ken.

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S3: It's what is C60? Org for the animal studies and

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S3: just for overall comprehensive studies. And then if you want

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S1: Okay cool. I'll link to those in the show notes

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S3: Okay, thanks so much, Ben. It was an honor. Pleasure.

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