1
00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:03,029
Speaker 1: I  feel  like all  the  pain  that  we  go  through  in 

2
00:00:03,029 --> 00:00:08,190
Speaker 1: life,  with  time,  it  gets better.  And  after  that  pain  you 

3
00:00:08,190 --> 00:00:12,690
Speaker 1: get to celebrate and  you  get  to  enjoy,  and  it  makes  things  a 

4
00:00:12,690 --> 00:00:13,200
Speaker 1: lot  better.

5
00:00:17,100 --> 00:00:22,320
Speaker 2: Thank  you, New York.  Today,  we're  reminded  of  the  power  of  community 

6
00:00:22,380 --> 00:00:26,850
Speaker 2: and  the  power  of  coming  together.  Athletes,  on  your  mark.


7
00:00:28,980 --> 00:00:32,520
Speaker 2: The  first  woman  to  finish  for  the  second  straight  year 

8
00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,150
Speaker 2: here  in  the  New  York City Marathon  is  Miki  Gorman,  a  smiling 

9
00:00:36,150 --> 00:00:41,130
Speaker 2: Miki  Gorman.  And  why not?
2:29: 30  time  for  (inaudible) .
 Look 

10
00:00:41,130 --> 00:00:43,680
Speaker 2: at  the  emotion  of  Shalane  Flanagan  as  she  comes  to 

11
00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,550
Speaker 2: the  line.
 Pointing  to  his  chest,  pointing  to  the  USA he 

12
00:00:47,940 --> 00:00:56,640
Speaker 2: so  proudly  wears  across  his  chest.  A  great  day  for 

13
00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,240
Speaker 2: Matt  McClusky.

14
00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,110
Speaker 3: Hey,  everybody,  and  welcome  to  another  edition  of  Set  the 

15
00:01:01,110 --> 00:01:04,440
Speaker 3: Pace,  the  official  podcast  of  New  York  Road  Runners.  We 

16
00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,380
Speaker 3: are  presented  by  Peloton.  I'm  your  host  and  the  CEO 

17
00:01:07,709 --> 00:01:10,380
Speaker 3: of  New  York  Road  Runners,  Rob  Simmelkjaer.  And  with  me 

18
00:01:10,380 --> 00:01:15,450
Speaker 3: from  Peloton,  it's  Becs  Gentry.  Hello.  Hello.  How  are  you  today?

19
00:01:15,450 --> 00:01:15,510
Speaker 4: Hi.

20
00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:16,021
Speaker 3: Nice  to  see  you.

21
00:01:16,021 --> 00:01:20,250
Speaker 4: I mean,  I'm  good.  I'm  boring.  How  are  you?  How  are 

22
00:01:20,250 --> 00:01:24,630
Speaker 4: you? You  are  hours  away  from  stepping  on  the  flight  to  Tokyo.

23
00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:27,959
Speaker 3: I'm  so  excited.  We're  recording  this  on  Tuesday,  and  on 

24
00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,560
Speaker 3: Wednesday  I  will  board  my  flight  over  to  Tokyo  to 

25
00:01:32,069 --> 00:01:35,910
Speaker 3: take  on  the  Tokyo  Marathon.  So  excited.  Now,  first  thing 

26
00:01:35,910 --> 00:01:38,700
Speaker 3: I  want  to  say  Becs is,  I  am,  just  like  I 

27
00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:42,959
Speaker 3: did  for  Berlin,  running  this  marathon  in  support  of  Team 

28
00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,200
Speaker 3: for  Kids.  For  those  who  don't  know,  Team  for  Kids 

29
00:01:46,470 --> 00:01:50,310
Speaker 3: is  our  charity  program  that  supports  New  York  Road  Runners 

30
00:01:50,670 --> 00:01:53,820
Speaker 3: and  all of  the  incredible  youth  and  community  programs  that  we 

31
00:01:53,820 --> 00:01:56,550
Speaker 3: have at  New  York  Road  Runners,  from  Rising  New  York  Road 

32
00:01:56,550 --> 00:02:00,000
Speaker 3: Runners,  which  is  helping  over  100,000  kids  in  New  York 

33
00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,480
Speaker 3: City  learn  how  to  run  and  get  active,  to  our 

34
00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,310
Speaker 3: open  run  free  running  program,  our  Striders,  older  adult  walking 

35
00:02:08,310 --> 00:02:11,430
Speaker 3: program.
 So  many  amazing  programs  we've  got  here  at  New 

36
00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:13,860
Speaker 3: York  Road  Runners  and  I'm  running  to  support  all  that. 

37
00:02:13,860 --> 00:02:18,540
Speaker 3: So I  hope  folks  will  think  about  donating  to  help  support 

38
00:02:18,540 --> 00:02:21,330
Speaker 3: my  run.  I  need  all  the  positive  vibes  I  can 

39
00:02:21,330 --> 00:02:23,580
Speaker 3: get.  We're  going  to  put  a  link  to  donate  in 

40
00:02:23,580 --> 00:02:26,070
Speaker 3: the  show  notes.  Thank  you  to  everybody  who's  already  donated, 

41
00:02:26,430 --> 00:02:30,660
Speaker 3: and  I  really  appreciate  all  of  the  support.  Becs,  yeah, 

42
00:02:30,660 --> 00:02:32,730
Speaker 3: listen,  I'm  really  feeling  great.

43
00:02:33,060 --> 00:02:33,150
Speaker 4: Good.

44
00:02:34,260 --> 00:02:36,960
Speaker 3: My  legs  feel  good,  everything  feels  good.  My  training  runs 

45
00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,540
Speaker 3: have  all  been  good.  I  will  say  this,  I  did 

46
00:02:39,540 --> 00:02:42,060
Speaker 3: go  skiing  for  four  days  last  week-

47
00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:42,241
Speaker 4: I  saw  that,  yeah.

48
00:02:42,241 --> 00:02:47,970
Speaker 3: ...  which is not what I would say is  your  ideal  run  training,  but  what  am  I 

49
00:02:47,970 --> 00:02:50,910
Speaker 3: going  to  do?  It's  winter,  skiing  is  what  I  do 

50
00:02:50,910 --> 00:02:53,190
Speaker 3: in  the  winter,  sometimes  with  my  kids.  I  had  a 

51
00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:56,550
Speaker 3: great  time  with  Julia  and  some  friends  skiing,  but  I 

52
00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:58,440
Speaker 3: felt  a  little  bit  of  that  in  my  legs  on 

53
00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,610
Speaker 3: my  short- ish  long  run  on  Saturday.  My  run  this 

54
00:03:02,610 --> 00:03:05,520
Speaker 3: morning  felt  a  little  bit  better.  But  we'll  see  if 

55
00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,630
Speaker 3: that  comes  back  to  haunt  me  at  some  point  during 

56
00:03:09,630 --> 00:03:10,380
Speaker 3: the  run  in  Tokyo.

57
00:03:10,380 --> 00:03:13,709
Speaker 4: You'll be fine.  Keep  the  recovery  on,  get  the  recovery  boots,  compression 

58
00:03:13,710 --> 00:03:16,260
Speaker 4: socks  on,  flush  it  all  out,  drink  a  lot  of 

59
00:03:16,260 --> 00:03:20,820
Speaker 4: water,  and you'll  be  great.  You'll  be  great.  If  anything,  it's 

60
00:03:20,820 --> 00:03:22,529
Speaker 4: just  the  flight  that's  going  to  be  the  one  thing.

61
00:03:22,529 --> 00:03:26,100
Speaker 3: You've given  me  some  advice  on  this  run  since  you  have 

62
00:03:26,100 --> 00:03:30,419
Speaker 3: already  conquered  Tokyo.  You've  talked  about  the  course,  you've  talked 

63
00:03:30,419 --> 00:03:34,050
Speaker 3: about  the  out  and  backs,  some  of  what  people  call 

64
00:03:34,050 --> 00:03:37,140
Speaker 3: the  quiet  element  of  Tokyo  and  being  ready  for  that, 

65
00:03:37,140 --> 00:03:37,740
Speaker 3: which  I  am.

66
00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:39,360
Speaker 4: Comparatively  to  the  other  five,  yes.

67
00:03:39,390 --> 00:03:43,890
Speaker 3: Yes,  exactly.  Any  last  minute  tips  in  terms  of  travel? 

68
00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,200
Speaker 3: Should  I  run  my  first  day?  I  feel  like  when 

69
00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,450
Speaker 3: I  land  and  I  get  myself  sorted  over  there,  it'll 

70
00:03:48,450 --> 00:03:50,640
Speaker 3: be  Thursday,  I  feel  like  I  should  just  try  to 

71
00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,070
Speaker 3: get  something  in  that  day  even  just  to  help  get 

72
00:03:53,070 --> 00:03:54,030
Speaker 3: me  on  the  time  zone.

73
00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:57,150
Speaker 4: Go  to  see  the  palace  in  the  middle.  It's  the 

74
00:03:57,150 --> 00:04:00,690
Speaker 4: finish  line  destination  of  the  marathon,  so  it's  great  to 

75
00:04:00,690 --> 00:04:04,350
Speaker 4: go  and  see  it.  You'll  see  everybody  from  New  York 

76
00:04:04,350 --> 00:04:07,980
Speaker 4: doing  laps  around  it.  It's  beautiful.  It's  a  huge  sightseeing 

77
00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:11,880
Speaker 4: point,  so  you  can  tick  it  off  as  well.  Yeah, 

78
00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,440
Speaker 4: go  and  shake  the  legs  out  and  then  get  in 

79
00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:16,650
Speaker 4: an  onsen.  Get  your  feet  on  the  ground,  naked  feet 

80
00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:21,299
Speaker 4: on  earth  or  water,  a  natural  element,  as  soon  as 

81
00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:23,789
Speaker 4: you  can  as  well.  It  might  be  a  little  too 

82
00:04:23,790 --> 00:04:25,049
Speaker 4: cold  to  just  go  and  put  your  feet  on  the 

83
00:04:25,050 --> 00:04:26,910
Speaker 4: grass,  but  for  me,  that's  what  I  do  when  I 

84
00:04:26,910 --> 00:04:29,910
Speaker 4: travel,  especially  long  distances  before  I  run,  is  the  connection 

85
00:04:29,910 --> 00:04:30,121
Speaker 4: with  Mother Earth.

86
00:04:30,121 --> 00:04:30,361
Speaker 3: Love that.

87
00:04:32,460 --> 00:04:36,779
Speaker 4: Piece  to  piece,  body  to  body,  not  through  shoes  should 

88
00:04:36,779 --> 00:04:40,320
Speaker 4: ground  you  as  close  as  you  can.  If  not,  get 

89
00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,360
Speaker 4: that  melatonin.  Eat  the  melatonin.

90
00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:45,450
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bringing some of that, absolutely.

91
00:04:45,450 --> 00:04:45,991
Speaker 4: Go  ground  yourself.

92
00:04:45,991 --> 00:04:46,799
Speaker 3: ...  just  to  try to get my sleep sorted.

93
00:04:47,580 --> 00:04:49,440
Speaker 4: Get  into  the  onsen,  get  into  the  bath  as  well. 

94
00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:55,470
Speaker 4: Those amazing onsens they  have  in  Japan,  they're  stunning  and  great  for  relaxation 

95
00:04:55,890 --> 00:04:58,710
Speaker 4: and  really  great  for  the  body.  So  that  should  set 

96
00:04:58,710 --> 00:05:00,150
Speaker 4: you  up.  Thursday...  Wait,  you  leave on Thursday? No, you arrive on Thursday.

97
00:05:00,150 --> 00:05:03,570
Speaker 3: I leave  Wednesday,  get  there  Thursday,  exactly-

98
00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:04,830
Speaker 4: That's  exactly  what  we  did.

99
00:05:04,830 --> 00:05:05,070
Speaker 3: ...  so  those  will be Thursday moves. Okay.

100
00:05:05,070 --> 00:05:10,920
Speaker 4: Yes.  The  expo  is,  as  you  would  expect,  incredibly  organized. 

101
00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:14,580
Speaker 4: It  was  so  quick  in  and  out,  but  it  is 

102
00:05:14,580 --> 00:05:17,159
Speaker 4: a  travel  to  get  there  from  the  center  of  Tokyo, 

103
00:05:17,460 --> 00:05:20,430
Speaker 4: so  make  sure  you  do  understand  that  you  could  be 

104
00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:21,660
Speaker 4: getting  some  miles  in.

105
00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,330
Speaker 3: I'm  thinking  maybe  Friday  for  that  trip,  yeah.

106
00:05:24,330 --> 00:05:26,339
Speaker 4: Yeah,  we  did  that  Friday  and  we  ended  up  walking 

107
00:05:26,339 --> 00:05:28,020
Speaker 4: 18  miles  that  day,  which  wasn't the greatest idea.

108
00:05:28,260 --> 00:05:31,620
Speaker 3: Wow,  okay.  I'm  not  hoping  to  do  that.  Yeah,  that's 

109
00:05:31,620 --> 00:05:35,219
Speaker 3: a  lot  of  walking  two  days  before  a  marathon.  Well, 

110
00:05:35,220 --> 00:05:38,460
Speaker 3: I  can't  wait, Becs,  to  see  folks  over  there.  We've  got 

111
00:05:38,460 --> 00:05:41,400
Speaker 3: a  lot  of  New  York  Road  Runners  members,  we've  got 

112
00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,000
Speaker 3: a  Team  for  Kids  team  running  as  well,  so  can't 

113
00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,040
Speaker 3: wait  to  see  folks  over  there.  By  the  way,  if 

114
00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,020
Speaker 3: you're a  New  York  Road  Runners  member,  we  are  going  to 

115
00:05:49,020 --> 00:05:53,729
Speaker 3: have  a  member  gathering  in  Tokyo  on  Friday,  so  if 

116
00:05:53,730 --> 00:05:56,880
Speaker 3: you're  interested  in  attending  that,  there  should  be  something  in 

117
00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,940
Speaker 3: email  or  you  can  actually  send  a  message  to  runner 

118
00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:02,609
Speaker 3: services  and  you'll  get  the  information  about  how  to  hook 

119
00:06:02,610 --> 00:06:05,580
Speaker 3: up  with  our  team  in  Tokyo.  We'd  love  to  see 

120
00:06:05,580 --> 00:06:08,489
Speaker 3: everybody  over  there.  I'll  be  there,  other  senior  members  of 

121
00:06:08,490 --> 00:06:11,310
Speaker 3: our  staff  will  be  there  to  give  all  of  our 

122
00:06:11,580 --> 00:06:14,640
Speaker 3: Road  Runners  members  a  high  five  and  good  luck  as 

123
00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,970
Speaker 3: we  all  get  ready  to  take  on  the  Tokyo  Marathon. 

124
00:06:17,970 --> 00:06:21,479
Speaker 3: So  thanks  everybody  for  the  support,  I  can't  wait.  And 

125
00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,779
Speaker 3: I'll  report  for  sure  on  how  that  goes  as  soon 

126
00:06:24,779 --> 00:06:26,789
Speaker 3: as  I  can,  hopefully  from  Japan.

127
00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:27,600
Speaker 4: Wow.

128
00:06:27,690 --> 00:06:30,630
Speaker 3: All  right,  well,  we  just  had  a  race  here  in 

129
00:06:30,630 --> 00:06:33,870
Speaker 3: New  York  City  this  past  weekend,  the  2025  New  York 

130
00:06:33,870 --> 00:06:38,970
Speaker 3: Road  Runners  Al  Gordon  4  Miler,  honoring  Al  Gordon,  one 

131
00:06:38,970 --> 00:06:41,550
Speaker 3: of  the great figures  in  the  history  of  New  York  Road  Runners, 

132
00:06:41,550 --> 00:06:44,550
Speaker 3: an  incredible  guy  who  started  running  marathons  in  his  80s.

133
00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:48,570
Speaker 4: I  mean,  the  whole  story  behind  that  is  I  think... 

134
00:06:48,570 --> 00:06:50,250
Speaker 4: Sorry  to  cut  you  off,  but  I  just  have  such 

135
00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:55,710
Speaker 4: a  strong  love  of  this  race  and  the  distance  of 

136
00:06:55,710 --> 00:07:01,350
Speaker 4: just  him  starting  running  in  his  80s  and  running  four 

137
00:07:01,350 --> 00:07:07,500
Speaker 4: miles,  they're  two  highly  unusual  things in  the  running  world  that 

138
00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:11,160
Speaker 4: come  together.  And  I  think it  is  one  of  the  most 

139
00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,520
Speaker 4: welcoming  races  that  New  York  Road  Runners  put  on,  which 

140
00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,040
Speaker 4: is  absurd  to  say  because they're  all  so  welcoming  and  so 

141
00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,970
Speaker 4: wonderful.  But  from  having  seen  it  last  year,  I  think there's 

142
00:07:21,690 --> 00:07:24,270
Speaker 4: such  a  vast  range  of  people  who  do  it  and 

143
00:07:24,270 --> 00:07:30,450
Speaker 4: that's  just  testament  to  his  story.  Yeah,  I  love  it. 

144
00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:32,550
Speaker 4: It  really  makes  me  be  like, " Everyone  should  go and  run 

145
00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:35,700
Speaker 4: this,"  because  it's  like  5K is  a  common  thing.  You  say 

146
00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:38,760
Speaker 4: four  miles  and  even  new  runners  are  like, " Hmm,  that's 

147
00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,160
Speaker 4: weird.  Maybe  I'll  try  it  because  that  dude  did  it 

148
00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:41,820
Speaker 4: in  his  80s."

149
00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,730
Speaker 3: It's  true.  It's  a  funny  distance.  We  have  a  number 

150
00:07:44,730 --> 00:07:47,670
Speaker 3: of  those  races  in  Prospect  Park  or  Central  Park.  Partly 

151
00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:51,030
Speaker 3: just because of the way  the  parks  are  laid  out, Becs,  it  kind  of  is 

152
00:07:51,030 --> 00:07:54,510
Speaker 3: a  relatively  easy  distance  for  us  to  create  a  course 

153
00:07:54,510 --> 00:07:57,420
Speaker 3: for.  This  one  was  in  Prospect  Park  on  a  chilly 

154
00:07:57,420 --> 00:08:01,200
Speaker 3: day.  We  had  a  great  turnout,  over 4, 500  runners,  and 

155
00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,320
Speaker 3: it  was  a  home  game  for  Andy  Kent  from  the 

156
00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,080
Speaker 3: Brooklyn  Track  Club  and  he  was  the  men's  winner  at 19:

157
00:08:07,380 --> 00:08:12,690
Speaker 3: 55  over  four  miles.  Very  impressive.  On  the  women's  side, 

158
00:08:12,690 --> 00:08:17,160
Speaker 3: it  was  Grace  Richardson  coming  in  first  at  21:57  and 

159
00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,960
Speaker 3: the  non- binary  winner  was  Elijah  Taylor  at  22:46.  Thanks 

160
00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,960
Speaker 3: to  everybody,  including  the  volunteers,  for  coming  out  and  making 

161
00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,640
Speaker 3: that  a  great  day.
 And  Becs,  speaking  of  inspirational  things, 

162
00:08:30,570 --> 00:08:34,770
Speaker 3: of  course  everybody  all  over  the  world,  especially  the  country 

163
00:08:34,770 --> 00:08:37,050
Speaker 3: here  in  the  United  States,  has  been  paying  so  much 

164
00:08:37,050 --> 00:08:41,189
Speaker 3: attention  this  year  to  the  tragic  fires  in  Los  Angeles. 

165
00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:44,370
Speaker 3: We've  been  thinking  about  ways  here  at  New  York  Road 

166
00:08:44,370 --> 00:08:48,540
Speaker 3: Runners  to  support  LA  and  everything  going  on  out  there. 

167
00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,650
Speaker 3: We're  so  excited  to  announce  that  we  are  supporting  an 

168
00:08:52,650 --> 00:08:56,939
Speaker 3: initiative  called  Together  LA,  which  uniting  the  running  community  all 

169
00:08:56,940 --> 00:09:00,480
Speaker 3: around  the  United  States  and  beyond  to  help  support  LA 

170
00:09:00,510 --> 00:09:05,040
Speaker 3: wildfire  relief  efforts.
 So  you  can  purchase  limited  edition  co-

171
00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,420
Speaker 3: branded  Together  LA  merchandise,  and  100%  of  the  net  proceeds 

172
00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,860
Speaker 3: to  that  is  going  to  go  to  CORE,  C- O- R-

173
00:09:13,860 --> 00:09:17,730
Speaker 3: E,  which  is  an  organization  helping  to  provide  relief,  as 

174
00:09:17,730 --> 00:09:21,150
Speaker 3: well  as  the  California  Fire  Foundation.  That's  going  to  aid 

175
00:09:21,150 --> 00:09:25,050
Speaker 3: people  directly  impacted  by  these  fires.  So  if  you  want 

176
00:09:25,050 --> 00:09:27,270
Speaker 3: to  buy  one  of  these  shirts,  New  York  Road  Runners, 

177
00:09:27,420 --> 00:09:29,880
Speaker 3: our  logo's  on  it,  we're  a  part  of  that,  you 

178
00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,350
Speaker 3: can  shop  now  or  just  make  a  donation  by  looking 

179
00:09:34,410 --> 00:09:37,110
Speaker 3: at  the  link,  it's  in  our  show  notes.  It's togetherla.lamarathon. com,  togetherla.

180
00:09:37,170 --> 00:09:47,250
Speaker 3: lamarathon.com.  Becs,  the  LA  Marathon  happens  on  the  same  day 

181
00:09:47,250 --> 00:09:49,710
Speaker 3: as  the  United  Airlines  NYC  Half,  so  it's  coming  right 

182
00:09:49,710 --> 00:09:54,059
Speaker 3: up.  We  just  want  to  support  everybody  in  LA  to 

183
00:09:54,059 --> 00:09:56,670
Speaker 3: have  a  great,  great  day  and  obviously  to  make  a 

184
00:09:56,670 --> 00:09:58,650
Speaker 3: big  impact  on  supporting  relief  efforts.

185
00:10:00,510 --> 00:10:03,000
Speaker 4: So  cool. So, so cool.  I'm  wishing  everybody  luck  for  both  races.

186
00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:06,900
Speaker 3: Absolutely.  So  thrilled  to  be  a  part  of  that.  Well, 

187
00:10:06,929 --> 00:10:10,920
Speaker 3: Becs,  speaking  of  great  races,  of  course  we  mentioned  the 

188
00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,670
Speaker 3: UA NYC  half  coming  up, and  we  have  such  a  great  pro 

189
00:10:14,670 --> 00:10:15,571
Speaker 3: field  this  year.

190
00:10:15,571 --> 00:10:15,810
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

191
00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,870
Speaker 3: And  today  we  get  to  speak  to  one  of  the 

192
00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:22,859
Speaker 3: headline  names  from  that  pro  field.  And  Becs,  you  may 

193
00:10:22,859 --> 00:10:28,290
Speaker 3: not know this, but  this  woman  is  also  my  daughter's  favorite  pro  runner.

194
00:10:29,369 --> 00:10:30,630
Speaker 4: She's  up  there for me  too.

195
00:10:30,690 --> 00:10:35,250
Speaker 3: Yes,  Sharon  Lokedi, and  I'll  explain  why  when  she  comes  on. 

196
00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:37,949
Speaker 3: But  Sharon  Lokedi,  who  is  my  daughter's  and  also  her 

197
00:10:37,950 --> 00:10:42,360
Speaker 3: best  friend's  favorite  pro,  will  join  us  here  today.  She's 

198
00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,189
Speaker 3: running  the  United  Airlines  NYC  Half.  Obviously,  a  top  contender 

199
00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:49,020
Speaker 3: to  potentially  win  that  race.

200
00:10:49,078 --> 00:10:49,141
Speaker 4: Yeah,  unreal.

201
00:10:49,141 --> 00:10:53,250
Speaker 3: This will be  her  second  time  running  the  race.  Her  first  time 

202
00:10:53,250 --> 00:10:56,250
Speaker 3: was  in  a  warmup  to  run  the  New  York  City 

203
00:10:56,250 --> 00:11:00,090
Speaker 3: Marathon  in  2022,  which,  of  course,  she  won  in  her 

204
00:11:00,090 --> 00:11:03,449
Speaker 3: debut.  So  we're  so  excited  to  have  her  come  talk 

205
00:11:03,450 --> 00:11:07,230
Speaker 3: to  us  about  getting  ready  for  our  half  and  obviously 

206
00:11:07,230 --> 00:11:11,130
Speaker 3: her  incredible  story and  her  journey  from  Kenya,  to  the  University 

207
00:11:11,130 --> 00:11:14,729
Speaker 3: of  Kansas,  to  being  one  of  the  greats  in  the 

208
00:11:14,730 --> 00:11:18,030
Speaker 3: women's  pro  game  right  now.  Then,  Meb  will  be  here 

209
00:11:18,030 --> 00:11:20,760
Speaker 3: a  little  later  on  to  talk  to  today's  featured  member, 

210
00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,870
Speaker 3: Evan  McKiernan,  who  is  training  for  the  United  Airlines  NYC 

211
00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:28,740
Speaker 3: Virtual  Half  Love  of  Running.  And  then  in  today's Meb  Minute, 

212
00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,990
Speaker 3: Meb  is  going  to  give  us  his  best  training  advice 

213
00:11:30,990 --> 00:11:34,170
Speaker 3: for  when  you're  three  weeks  out  from  a  challenging  but 

214
00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:36,990
Speaker 3: beautiful  half-marathon.  So  stay  tuned  for  that.

215
00:11:37,710 --> 00:11:39,569
Speaker 4: So  many  things, it's  so  exciting.

216
00:11:40,050 --> 00:11:42,660
Speaker 3: Ready  to  hit  your  stride?  Whether  you're  training  for  your 

217
00:11:42,690 --> 00:11:45,600
Speaker 3: next  race  or  just  lacing  up  for  a  run,  no 

218
00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,600
Speaker 3: matter  your  level,  the  Peloton  app  has  everything  you  need 

219
00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,900
Speaker 3: to  keep  you  moving.  Track  your  progress  with  real- time 

220
00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:55,770
Speaker 3: metrics  and  celebrate  those  streaks  and  personal  bests  along  the 

221
00:11:55,770 --> 00:11:59,220
Speaker 3: way.  With  thousands  of  classes  to  choose  from  or  the 

222
00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:03,270
Speaker 3: option  to  just  run  or  just  walk,  Peloton  makes  it 

223
00:12:03,270 --> 00:12:09,929
Speaker 3: easy  to  fit  fitness  into  your  routine.  Learn  more  at  onepeloton.com/ race-

224
00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:14,580
Speaker 3: training.  Peloton,  the  official  digital  fitness  partner  of  New  York 

225
00:12:14,580 --> 00:12:19,199
Speaker 3: Road  Runners.
 The  last  time  today's  guest,  Sharon  Lokedi,  ran 

226
00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,290
Speaker 3: the  United  Airlines  NYC  Half,  it  was  as  part  of 

227
00:12:22,290 --> 00:12:27,000
Speaker 3: her  training  for  an  upcoming  marathon.  Well,  her  debut  in 

228
00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,010
Speaker 3: that  marathon  was  the  2022 TCS  New  York  City  Marathon,  and 

229
00:12:32,010 --> 00:12:35,280
Speaker 3: Sharon  went  on  to  win  that  race,  becoming  only  the 

230
00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,099
Speaker 3: eighth  athlete  ever  to  win  the  TCS  New  York  City 

231
00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:43,140
Speaker 3: Marathon  in  their  26. 2  mile  debut. Born  in  Burnt 

232
00:12:43,140 --> 00:12:46,050
Speaker 3: Forest,  Kenya,  Sharon  Lokedi  made  a  name  for  herself  as 

233
00:12:46,050 --> 00:12:49,770
Speaker 3: a  dominant  force  in  collegiate  running.  She  was  a  10-

234
00:12:49,770 --> 00:12:53,040
Speaker 3: time  all- American  at  the  University  of  Kansas  and  won  the 10,

235
00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:58,319
Speaker 3: 000  meter  NCAA  title  in  2018.  Other  notable  finishes  for 

236
00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,040
Speaker 3: Sharon  since  her  '22  marathon  win  are  second  place  in the 

237
00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,870
Speaker 3: 2024  Boston  Marathon  and  fourth  place  at  this  past  summer's 

238
00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:12,210
Speaker 3: Paris  Olympic  Marathon.
 Sharon  splits  her  time  between  Flagstaff,  Arizona 

239
00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,350
Speaker 3: with  the  Under  Armour  Mission  Run  Dark  Sky  Distance  team 

240
00:13:16,650 --> 00:13:19,800
Speaker 3: and  her  native  Kenya.  Sharon  Lokedi  will  be  towing  the 

241
00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:25,020
Speaker 3: line  at  the  2025  United  Airlines  NYC  Half  on  March 

242
00:13:25,020 --> 00:13:28,830
Speaker 3: 16th.  And  Sharon,  we  are  so  excited  to  have  you coming 

243
00:13:29,220 --> 00:13:32,760
Speaker 3: back  to  New  York  where  you  clearly  are  comfortable  because 

244
00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,339
Speaker 3: you  do  so  well  when  you  come  run  with  us 

245
00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:37,319
Speaker 3: here.  And  Becs and  I  are  thrilled  to  have  you  here 

246
00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:38,579
Speaker 3: on  Set  the  Pace.  Welcome.

247
00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:43,410
Speaker 1: Thank  you  so  much,  Rob.  As  you  said  in  the 

248
00:13:43,410 --> 00:13:46,559
Speaker 1: introduction,  the  first  time  I  ran  the  New  York  City 

249
00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,470
Speaker 1: Half,  I  went  ahead  and  won  the  New  York  City 

250
00:13:49,470 --> 00:13:57,900
Speaker 1: Marathon  that  fall.  So part of it, just the athlete that I am,  I  think  has  just  been  so 

251
00:13:57,900 --> 00:14:02,970
Speaker 1: big  and  being  part  of  NYC  running  and  I'm  really 

252
00:14:02,970 --> 00:14:06,300
Speaker 1: looking  forward  to  coming  back  for  the  second  time.  I 

253
00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:08,880
Speaker 1: know  it's  going  to  be  a  blast, so I'm  really,  really  excited 

254
00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,330
Speaker 1: for  it.

255
00:14:10,020 --> 00:14:12,089
Speaker 4: Oh  my  gosh,  we  can't  wait  to  have  you.  It 

256
00:14:12,390 --> 00:14:15,690
Speaker 4: is  super  close  to  your  birthday  as  well,  the  race,  right?

257
00:14:15,690 --> 00:14:18,570
Speaker 1: Yes.  I  know,  you  guys  should  change  it  to  the  week before.

258
00:14:22,350 --> 00:14:24,510
Speaker 3: We'll  get  on  that.  We'll  get  on  that,  Sharon.  Let's 

259
00:14:24,510 --> 00:14:25,200
Speaker 3: move  it  up  a  week.

260
00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,640
Speaker 4: We'll  rename  it as  a  celebration  of  you.  But  that is  so 

261
00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,010
Speaker 4: exciting  as  well  to  be  doing  the  things  you  love, 

262
00:14:32,010 --> 00:14:36,570
Speaker 4: training,  and  doing  the  celebrations  and  all  of  that in  New 

263
00:14:36,570 --> 00:14:39,420
Speaker 4: York in  a  place  where  the  streets  are  lined  with  people 

264
00:14:39,420 --> 00:14:42,960
Speaker 4: who  absolutely  adore  you,  as  I'm  sure  is  everywhere  you 

265
00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,890
Speaker 4: go. But  can  you  share  with  us  any  expectations  or  any 

266
00:14:46,890 --> 00:14:47,820
Speaker 4: hopes  that  you've  got?

267
00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,160
Speaker 1: Honestly,  I  mean,  my  training  has  been  going  so  well. 

268
00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,220
Speaker 1: I'm  just  ready  to  know  to  get  in  a  race 

269
00:14:56,220 --> 00:15:00,960
Speaker 1: and  compete  and  see  where  I  am.  Honestly,  I  wouldn't 

270
00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,960
Speaker 1: go  any  other  place  where  I  know  I  wouldn't  know 

271
00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:10,080
Speaker 1: or  what  shape or  what  fitness I'm in. So  I'm  really  excited  to  showcase 

272
00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,950
Speaker 1: it in  New  York,  and  hopefully  it's  a  really  good  competition. 

273
00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:18,420
Speaker 1: I'm  really  excited  that  we  go  in  and  we  get 

274
00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:22,500
Speaker 1: to  compete  and  hopefully  come  with  a  win  or  anything. 

275
00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:26,670
Speaker 1: But  I'm  really  looking  forward,  as  you  said,  it's  a 

276
00:15:26,670 --> 00:15:30,721
Speaker 1: long  week  celebrations.  I'm  really  looking  forward  to  that.

277
00:15:30,721 --> 00:15:30,931
Speaker 4: Wow.

278
00:15:31,290 --> 00:15:32,550
Speaker 3: What  better  birthday  present-

279
00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:32,641
Speaker 4: What  better...

280
00:15:32,641 --> 00:15:32,941
Speaker 3: ...  to  yourself.

281
00:15:32,941 --> 00:15:32,942
Speaker 4: True, right. True-

282
00:15:32,942 --> 00:15:42,240
Speaker 3: ... than a win  at  a half- marathon.  Absolutely.  So  there  you  go.  Sharon, 

283
00:15:42,270 --> 00:15:48,630
Speaker 3: I  want  to  go  back  to  that  2022  marathon.  What 

284
00:15:48,630 --> 00:15:52,680
Speaker 3: an  incredible  story  for  you  to  win  at  your  debut 

285
00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,310
Speaker 3: in  the  distance  in  New  York.  To  me,  it's  one 

286
00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:59,850
Speaker 3: of  the  great  stories  of  the  TCS  New  York  City 

287
00:15:59,850 --> 00:16:03,420
Speaker 3: Marathon  and  certainly  obviously  a  great  story  in  your  career. 

288
00:16:03,780 --> 00:16:09,990
Speaker 3: Take  us  back  to  that,  what  your  expectations  were  coming 

289
00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:14,280
Speaker 3: into  that  day  and  how  the  day  unfolded  so  that 

290
00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,850
Speaker 3: you  find  yourself  crossing  that  finish  line  first,  how  unexpected 

291
00:16:17,850 --> 00:16:21,270
Speaker 3: it  was,  and  also  Sharon,  just  how  that's  changed  your 

292
00:16:21,270 --> 00:16:22,560
Speaker 3: life  since  then.

293
00:16:26,250 --> 00:16:28,410
Speaker 1: When  I  decided  to  do  the  marathon,  I  was  like, "

294
00:16:28,410 --> 00:16:31,890
Speaker 1: We'll,  just  go  to  New  York."  It's  hard.  You  don't 

295
00:16:31,890 --> 00:16:34,470
Speaker 1: have  as  much  expectation.  You  just  go  run  and  compete 

296
00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:37,380
Speaker 1: and  get  the  feel  of  the  marathon.  And  so  during 

297
00:16:37,380 --> 00:16:40,830
Speaker 1: training,  all  I  ever  thought  about is like, "Oh, this  is  going  to  be 

298
00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:44,460
Speaker 1: my  first  marathon.  Just  train,  just  get  the  mileage  in, 

299
00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:46,860
Speaker 1: and  just  start  to  feel  the  distance  of  how  it 

300
00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:52,830
Speaker 1: goes."
 Honestly,  it  was  just  coming  around  and the training  and  the 

301
00:16:52,830 --> 00:16:56,010
Speaker 1: workouts.  And  you  know  how  long  they're  and  very  tiring 

302
00:16:56,010 --> 00:16:57,720
Speaker 1: there,  and  I  was  like, " Jesus,  am  I  going  to 

303
00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,560
Speaker 1: be  able  to  do all  this  in  the  buildup?"  I  mean, 

304
00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,129
Speaker 1: we came to  the  race and  I'm  in  there  and  we're  running  through 

305
00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:07,770
Speaker 1: the  halfway  point  and  I'm  like, " This is  the  longest  I've 

306
00:17:07,770 --> 00:17:11,700
Speaker 1: done."  At  that  point, I had  only  done  maybe  two  or  three  half-

307
00:17:11,700 --> 00:17:15,090
Speaker 1: marathons,  so  I'd  never  done  anything...  It  wasn't  like  I'd 

308
00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:18,540
Speaker 1: done  a  lot.
 So  as  we  go  through  the  halfway 

309
00:17:18,540 --> 00:17:22,470
Speaker 1: point  of  the  full  marathon,  I  was  like, " Oh  God, 

310
00:17:22,590 --> 00:17:25,050
Speaker 1: am  I  going  to  be able  to  finish  this?"  We  just 

311
00:17:25,050 --> 00:17:29,070
Speaker 1: kept  going  and  I  think at 25 or  30  then  they  made  a 

312
00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:33,810
Speaker 1: move  and I was like, " Well,  this  is  where  things  happen."  I  just  started counting people. I'm like, "

313
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,260
Speaker 1: If  I'm  till  five,  I'm  fine.  I  don't  have  to 

314
00:17:37,260 --> 00:17:43,169
Speaker 1: worry  about  anything."  And  we  just  kept  going.  I  stayed 

315
00:17:43,170 --> 00:17:45,240
Speaker 1: with  one of  the  girls  and  we  just  kept  pushing.  And 

316
00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,460
Speaker 1: all  of  a  sudden  we  could  see  the  leaders  ahead 

317
00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:50,879
Speaker 1: of  us.  We  just  started  walking.  At  this  point  I'm  like, "

318
00:17:50,879 --> 00:17:53,940
Speaker 1: Oh  no,  you got it."  I  had  had  so  many  people  say, "

319
00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:56,820
Speaker 1: Once  you  get  to 35,  you  start  to  hit  the  wall 

320
00:17:56,820 --> 00:17:59,310
Speaker 1: and  maybe  that's  where  things  are."  And  we  get  there, 

321
00:17:59,310 --> 00:18:07,379
Speaker 1: and  I  was  like, " Oh  no, this is where it's happening. This is where it's happening.:
 But  then  I  also 

322
00:18:07,380 --> 00:18:09,690
Speaker 1: had  this  confidence  in  me.  I  knew  that  I  had 

323
00:18:09,690 --> 00:18:15,180
Speaker 1: done  enough  training and  I  was  strong  enough.  Once  we got  up 

324
00:18:15,180 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 1: to  the  leaders  and  I  was  like, " We  came  back. 

325
00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:23,040
Speaker 1: Nothing  is  done  until  it's  done."  At  that  point I was like, " Keep 

326
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,929
Speaker 1: going."  I  have  this  thing  that  when  I'm  running  or 

327
00:18:27,930 --> 00:18:30,959
Speaker 1: when  I'm  competing  and  I  see  people  ahead  of  me, 

328
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,510
Speaker 1: I  start  to  chase  them.  And  this  was  the  thing, 

329
00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:36,330
Speaker 1: we  just  started  chasing  them.  We  caught  up  to  them 

330
00:18:36,330 --> 00:18:41,190
Speaker 1: and  we  just  went.  It  was  like  it  happened.  We 

331
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:42,959
Speaker 1: just  kept  going  and  we  kept  going,  and  then  we started to 

332
00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:45,900
Speaker 1: get  close  to  the park  and  it  was  only  three  of 

333
00:18:45,900 --> 00:18:49,919
Speaker 1: us.  And I was like, "Oh, oh no."  We  started  going,  and  then  one  of  the 

334
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,888
Speaker 1: other  girls  who  a  little  bit  was  dropped,  and  then 

335
00:18:52,888 --> 00:18:54,659
Speaker 1: I  was  like, " Oh,  so  now  it's  two  of  us."


336
00:18:55,260 --> 00:18:59,400
Speaker 1: I  honestly  cannot  tell  you,  but  there  was  something  that just 

337
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,159
Speaker 1: I  felt  so  strong  and  I  just  wanted  to  go. 

338
00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:07,169
Speaker 1: I  made  a  move  and  immediately  I  made  the  move, 

339
00:19:07,170 --> 00:19:12,448
Speaker 1: I  was  like, " Oh  no.  I  did  it  too  soon. 

340
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,980
Speaker 1: This  is  a  bad  idea. This  is  a  bad  idea."  But 

341
00:19:17,850 --> 00:19:25,020
Speaker 1: I  just  kept  fighting  and it was like at the time where I'm like, "You got this. You can do this.  Just  come  on.  It's  like 

342
00:19:25,020 --> 00:19:27,119
Speaker 1: the  thing  they've  never  done  and  you're  just  doing  it 

343
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,859
Speaker 1: so  well." I just  kept  fighting.  I  had  never  longed  for  that 

344
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 1: finish  line  in  my  life as I did  that  point.  You're  not  supposed 

345
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,780
Speaker 1: to  look  back,  and  I  do  that  all  the  time, I don't know why. Because I'm like... I have to be confident, but also 

346
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 1: I  don't  trust that I'm  that  strong  to  get  to  the  finish 

347
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,310
Speaker 1: line  before  anyone  gets  up  to  me.  So  I  kept 

348
00:19:53,310 --> 00:19:56,730
Speaker 1: looking  back.  I  think at  this point  is  I'm  tired,  I'm  just 

349
00:19:56,730 --> 00:19:59,459
Speaker 1: trying  to  get to  the  finish  line.
 I  think  once  with 

350
00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:02,790
Speaker 1: 200  to  go  and  I  was  like, " Oh  no,  we 

351
00:20:02,790 --> 00:20:05,670
Speaker 1: hit  that  hill... "  I  just  didn't  know  why,  Rob,  can 

352
00:20:05,670 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 1: you  change  that?

353
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,770
Speaker 3: The hill? Yeah, not  the  first  time  I've  been  asked.

354
00:20:10,770 --> 00:20:13,109
Speaker 4: Please,  Rob.  Please.

355
00:20:13,109 --> 00:20:17,850
Speaker 1: But  it's  like  the  thing  that  you  think  you're done and then  you 

356
00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:25,410
Speaker 1: hit  that and you're like, "Oh." But again, at that  point  it's  like  when  you  just  by  yourself 

357
00:20:25,410 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 1: and  you  have  enough  left,  then  you're  like, "Okay,  we can  see 

358
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,650
Speaker 1: the  finish  line  so  just  get  through  it."  And  just 

359
00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:35,430
Speaker 1: crossing  the  finish  line  and  winning  in  my  first  marathon, 

360
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:41,970
Speaker 1: honestly,  it's  still  like  happening.  It's  still  in  my  head. 

361
00:20:41,970 --> 00:20:46,350
Speaker 1: I  just  honestly  think  that  it's  always,  always  going  to 

362
00:20:46,350 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: be  a  memory  I'll  never  forget.
 Honestly,  I  feel  like 

363
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,170
Speaker 1: after  that  things  just  started  changing  and  things  just  started 

364
00:20:55,170 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 1: happening.  They're  all  really  good  things.  To  be  honest,  it's 

365
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,669
Speaker 1: like  you  can  never  accept  something  to  happen  without  putting 

366
00:21:02,670 --> 00:21:06,570
Speaker 1: in  the  hard  work.  I  think  it's  like  I  had 

367
00:21:06,570 --> 00:21:09,150
Speaker 1: had  so  many  years  where  I  was  doing  things  and 

368
00:21:09,150 --> 00:21:14,550
Speaker 1: I  was  just average and average and average. And  just  having  that  breakthrough  I  think  opened 

369
00:21:14,550 --> 00:21:18,990
Speaker 1: so  many  things  for  me  personally  and  even  my  running 

370
00:21:18,990 --> 00:21:24,090
Speaker 1: career  and  everything.  So  I  just  became  so  confident  and 

371
00:21:24,090 --> 00:21:27,150
Speaker 1: I  believed  in  myself  so  much.  I  think  even  from 

372
00:21:27,150 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: there  it's  just opened  up  so  many  things.  It's  like  I 

373
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,740
Speaker 1: get  to  the  race  now,  it's  like  I  just  don't 

374
00:21:31,740 --> 00:21:36,030
Speaker 1: see  myself  as...  I  think  I  belong  there.  I  put 

375
00:21:36,030 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: myself  in  there  and  I  just  do  my  best  and 

376
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: give  my  best.
 Even  in  training,  every  time  things  happen 

377
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,570
Speaker 1: I'm  like, " Oh  no,  you  can  do  it.  Come  on. 

378
00:21:45,570 --> 00:21:48,929
Speaker 1: It's  just  something  that  you  can  go  through." I feel like  all  the 

379
00:21:48,930 --> 00:21:54,300
Speaker 1: pain  that  we  go  through  in  life  with  time  it 

380
00:21:54,330 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: gets  better.  And  after  that  pain  you  get to celebrate and  you  get 

381
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,260
Speaker 1: to  enjoy  and  it  makes  things  a  lot  better.

382
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,710
Speaker 4: Oh  my  gosh.  That's  such  an  important  message  as  well. 

383
00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 4: Thank  you  for  sharing  that  with  the  listeners  to  just 

384
00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:10,619
Speaker 4: hard  work.  You've  got  to  work  for  it  if  you 

385
00:22:10,619 --> 00:22:14,850
Speaker 4: want  something.  It's  kind  of  crazy  for  me,  and  I'm 

386
00:22:14,850 --> 00:22:19,650
Speaker 4: sure  our  listeners,  to  think  of  you  not  being  confident 

387
00:22:19,650 --> 00:22:23,910
Speaker 4: or  not  feeling  that  you  should  be  there  on  these 

388
00:22:23,910 --> 00:22:28,350
Speaker 4: start  lines  is  just...  We  see  you  as  mere  mortal 

389
00:22:28,350 --> 00:22:32,550
Speaker 4: runners.  See  you  as  you're  an  inspiration.  You're  an  absolute 

390
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 4: goddess  out there  when  you  run.  To  me,  I  watch  you 

391
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 4: with  awe  and  just-

392
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: Thank you.

393
00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:39,209
Speaker 4: You  can  see  the  hard  work.  I'm  not  saying  it 

394
00:22:39,210 --> 00:22:41,609
Speaker 4: comes  to  you  without  hard  work.  It's  clear  how  hard 

395
00:22:41,609 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 4: you  work,  but  it's  lovely  to  hear  somebody  of  your 

396
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 4: level  just  that  you  still  have  to  learn  it  and 

397
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,990
Speaker 4: remind  yourself.  It's  very  real.  But  I  mean,  you  touched 

398
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: on  it,  the  hard  work  pays  off,  things  start  changing. 

399
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,450
Speaker 4: You  take  the  win  at  the  TCS  New  York  City 

400
00:22:57,450 --> 00:23:01,830
Speaker 4: Marathon  in  '22.  Fast  forward,  you  keep  working  super,  super 

401
00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:09,420
Speaker 4: hard  and  Peres,  Peres  comes,  the  Olympics  are  here,  and 

402
00:23:09,630 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: you  stepped  up.  I  saw  this  in  the  show  notes 

403
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,869
Speaker 4: and  was  like, " No,  that's  got  to  be  a  typo." 

404
00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 4: Nope,  your  fourth  marathon  ever  was  the  2024  Paris  Olympic 

405
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,300
Speaker 4: Marathon.  So  I  just  want  to  know  more  about  that. 

406
00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 4: What  was  your  training  like  for  that  huge  event?

407
00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:37,590
Speaker 1: Honestly,  I  feel  like  for  that  win,  it  was  very 

408
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:45,900
Speaker 1: short.  Very  short  and  very...  I  think I had  maybe  two  long 

409
00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:54,570
Speaker 1: runs  and  maybe  three  big  workouts.  I  came  to  the 

410
00:23:54,570 --> 00:23:57,149
Speaker 1: mini,  I  ran  the  mini,  and  then  after  that  I 

411
00:23:57,150 --> 00:23:59,490
Speaker 1: was  getting  ready  for  BA  10K  because at  that  point  they 

412
00:23:59,490 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: had  already  announced  the  field,  so  I  was done. I  was  like, "

413
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm  just  going  to  enjoy  my  time  and  just  compete 

414
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,649
Speaker 1: and  get  some  time  off  and  then  come  back  for 

415
00:24:13,650 --> 00:24:15,750
Speaker 1: New  York in the fall."  I  think  the  second  week  when  I  went 

416
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:18,389
Speaker 1: back  after  the  mini,  they  sent  me  an  email and they're like, "Oh,  you 

417
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: have  to  come  to  Kenya."  And  that  I  think  mid 

418
00:24:20,430 --> 00:24:27,510
Speaker 1: June,  I  think  June  15,  16  somewhere.  And  at  that 

419
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:29,459
Speaker 1: point  they're like, " Yeah,  you  need  to  come  to  Kenya."
 I 

420
00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:32,580
Speaker 1: was  like, " Well,  if  I'm  coming  to  just  be  there, 

421
00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:34,409
Speaker 1: then  I'm  not  doing  it  because  I  have  to  compete. 

422
00:24:34,410 --> 00:24:37,050
Speaker 1: I  need  to  figure  out  things  here  and  compete." They're like, " Yeah, 

423
00:24:38,670 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: no,  we  need you to  come,"  and I was like, " Okay,  I'll  come."  And  then 

424
00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: I  get  to  Kenya  and  they  had  the  trials  that 

425
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,869
Speaker 1: weekend,  and  so  I  stayed  in  Nairobi  for that  day.  And 

426
00:24:48,869 --> 00:24:50,699
Speaker 1: then  they  announced  the  team  and  I  was  still  a 

427
00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:54,869
Speaker 1: sub.  So  then  I  was  like, " Okay,  it's  still  like 

428
00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:58,260
Speaker 1: I  have  come  all  the  way  here."  It  was  just 

429
00:24:58,260 --> 00:25:05,250
Speaker 1: a  lot  of  mind  games,  I  feel  like."  Sometimes it's like I  thank 

430
00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:09,150
Speaker 1: God  because  He  gave  me  such  a  strong  mind  somehow 

431
00:25:09,869 --> 00:25:14,580
Speaker 1: that  I  just  kept  hoping.  I  never gave  up  hope.  I 

432
00:25:14,580 --> 00:25:17,010
Speaker 1: just  kept  thinking, " It  will  work  out.  It  will  work 

433
00:25:17,010 --> 00:25:22,470
Speaker 1: out."
 I  knew  that  the  girls  that  were  already  in, 

434
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: they  were  very  strong  and  I  just  kept  praying  for 

435
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: them.  I  want  the  best  for  them,  and I was  there  supporting 

436
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,100
Speaker 1: them  and  everything,  but  I  just  wanted  to  be  sure 

437
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: if  I'm  in  it  or  if  I'm  not.  Then I  had 

438
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: to  switch  things  and  start  training.  And  so  then  I 

439
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,460
Speaker 1: went  back  home  that  weekend  after  they  announced  the  team 

440
00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: and  that  same  Monday  they  were  like, " Okay,  we want you  to 

441
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,530
Speaker 1: come  to  training." And so  I  started  training  and  then  I  think 

442
00:25:46,890 --> 00:25:52,109
Speaker 1: two  weeks  later  they're  like, " Oh,  you're  in."  And that was end  of 

443
00:25:52,109 --> 00:26:03,270
Speaker 1: June.  So  I  only  had  just  July.  I  just  had 

444
00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:07,619
Speaker 1: to  change  everything  so  quick  and  just  the  way  I 

445
00:26:07,619 --> 00:26:11,129
Speaker 1: think.  It  was  like I  had  been  training,  but  I  had 

446
00:26:11,130 --> 00:26:13,890
Speaker 1: not  been  doing  marathon  training.  I  was  doing  70  miles to 

447
00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: 80  miles  a  week.
 And  so  my  coach  and  I 

448
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,300
Speaker 1: just  started figuring out,  okay,  we  need  to  get  you  from  maybe at least to 

449
00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: 100  miles  and  maybe  just  stay  there and maybe not overdo it. We  just  focused  on 

450
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,730
Speaker 1: the  workouts,  and  after  that  we  just  worked  on  the 

451
00:26:32,730 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: workouts  and  then  worked  on  just  being  mentally  there,  just 

452
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,090
Speaker 1: thinking  about  the  training  and  not  thinking  about  the  competition 

453
00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:43,500
Speaker 1: and  everything.  And  as  we  kept  going,  I  mean,  my 

454
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,530
Speaker 1: body  was  responding  well  to  the  workout  and  the  long 

455
00:26:46,530 --> 00:26:50,609
Speaker 1: runs. I think at this point  I  was  just  so  excited.  I'm  like, " I'm  just 

456
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: going  to  be  an  Olympian.  This  is  happening."  And  then 

457
00:26:53,879 --> 00:26:55,888
Speaker 1: at  the  same  time  I  was  like, " You  have  to 

458
00:26:55,888 --> 00:27:02,580
Speaker 1: think  about  the  training.  Don't  think  too far ahead of  everything."
 I  have 

459
00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: a  very  good  support  with my family, and my mom,  she  just  kept  saying, " Sharon, 

460
00:27:08,369 --> 00:27:11,460
Speaker 1: it  was  the  opportunity  from  this  side,  so  just  stay 

461
00:27:11,460 --> 00:27:14,670
Speaker 1: there and  just  believe  in  yourself.  You  can  do  it."  And 

462
00:27:14,670 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: so  yeah,  I  kept  training,  I  kept  training  and  then 

463
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,580
Speaker 1: time  to  go  to  Paris  came.  We  traveled,  we  get 

464
00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:23,580
Speaker 1: there, and  the  first  night  everybody's  like, " Oh,  we're  in  the 

465
00:27:23,580 --> 00:27:27,899
Speaker 1: village,  we're  in  the  village."  Peres  and  I,  we  were 

466
00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:30,961
Speaker 1: roommates.  And  so  all  the  night,  Peres  is  just  like-

467
00:27:30,961 --> 00:27:31,260
Speaker 3: Peres Jepchirchir,  yeah.

468
00:27:33,450 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: Yes. And like, "Sharon,  we're  here.  Let's  compete." Obiri,  I  think  we  met Obiri there  because 

469
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,980
Speaker 1: she  was  in  the  US. So all  of  us  met  and  we are 

470
00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:46,889
Speaker 1: just  trying  to  figure  out  and  everyone  is  like, " Yeah, 

471
00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:50,070
Speaker 1: the  training  has  been  going  on  this."  I  just  deep 

472
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:54,180
Speaker 1: down in  my  head  I'm  like, " Oh  no,  I  have  done 

473
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:58,020
Speaker 1: half  of  what  they've  done  already."  But  then  we  get 

474
00:27:58,020 --> 00:28:00,030
Speaker 1: to  the  race  and  we  get  to  the  start line and  I 

475
00:28:00,030 --> 00:28:03,300
Speaker 1: can  tell  you,  it  was  hot,  but  even  before  in 

476
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:06,869
Speaker 1: the  bus,  I'm  like  sweating. I'm like, " I'm  just  going  to  do 

477
00:28:06,869 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: this."  There was  so  much  expectation.  When  you  get  to  the 

478
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,030
Speaker 1: competition,  nobody  cares  if  you  had  a  full  block  of 

479
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:21,330
Speaker 1: training  or  a  short  block  of  training,  they  just  expect 

480
00:28:21,330 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: you  to  compete.
 I  just  didn't  want  to  give  myself 

481
00:28:26,638 --> 00:28:30,060
Speaker 1: a  lot  of  doubts  and  stuff.  I  just  wanted  to 

482
00:28:30,869 --> 00:28:35,219
Speaker 1: just  be  there,  be  present  and  just  be  confident.  I 

483
00:28:35,220 --> 00:28:37,350
Speaker 1: knew,  I  was  like, " Well,  I  had  a  really  good 

484
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:40,350
Speaker 1: block  in  Boston,"  and I was like, " I'm  just  going  to  use  that." 

485
00:28:41,010 --> 00:28:43,230
Speaker 1: It  was  only  just  a  few  sharpening  here.  And  then 

486
00:28:44,010 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: we  get  to  the  village,  the  tents,  and  we're  sitting 

487
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: there  and  I  can't  even  tie  my  shoe.  I  was 

488
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: shaking.  This  point  it's  like,  okay,  we  have  to  go 

489
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,550
Speaker 1: to  the start line and all that.  We're  warming  up  and  you're  seeing  everyone.
 I 

490
00:29:05,550 --> 00:29:07,740
Speaker 1: kept  looking  at  people,  I'm  like, " Wow,  they look  so  fit. 

491
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:18,210
Speaker 1: Oh,  geez."  (inaudible) .  After  the  cool  down,  we  went 

492
00:29:18,210 --> 00:29:21,690
Speaker 1: back  and  people  are  changing  and we had  to  move  quick  and 

493
00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:24,150
Speaker 1: everything  was  just  going  so  fast.  I'm  like, " Okay,  I 

494
00:29:24,150 --> 00:29:29,370
Speaker 1: get  everything.  I  get  everything."  We  get  to  the start line and  they 

495
00:29:29,370 --> 00:29:32,100
Speaker 1: couldn't  let  us  straight.  I  was  just  getting  worried  and 

496
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: everything.  It's  like  when  you  cannot  do  anything,  that's  how 

497
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: bad I was. I was like  I  couldn't  just  figure  out  anything.  Peres  was  there 

498
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,690
Speaker 1: just  trying  to  help  me  with  a  few  things.  I'm 

499
00:29:45,690 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: just  grateful  that  I  had  good  teammates.  And  we  get 

500
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: to  the  start  line  and  we  start  running  and  everything 

501
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,090
Speaker 1: and  it's  like  once  you  start  running,  then  things  just start to 

502
00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: come  down  and  you're  like, " Okay. Okay."

503
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: (inaudible)   to  doing  what  you  know  you  can  do.

504
00:29:58,620 --> 00:30:04,380
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.  And  the  point  was  just  follow  your  teammates,  just 

505
00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:07,410
Speaker 1: stay  with  them,  work  as  a  group.  We  kept  going 

506
00:30:07,410 --> 00:30:11,790
Speaker 1: and  we  kept  going.  Honestly,  every  time  I'm  like, " I 

507
00:30:11,790 --> 00:30:14,729
Speaker 1: can  do  this.  Everyone  here  is  strong.  Everyone  here  is 

508
00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:18,810
Speaker 1: the  fastest  in  their  country.  Everyone  here,  they  all earned  the 

509
00:30:18,810 --> 00:30:21,450
Speaker 1: position  to  be  there."  I  was  like, " Even  me,  I 

510
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: did.  I  couldn't  be  here  if  they  didn't  believe  in 

511
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,530
Speaker 1: me and  if  I  didn't  believe  in  myself."  So  I  put 

512
00:30:28,530 --> 00:30:31,530
Speaker 1: myself  in  it and  I  started  competing  and  I  just  was 

513
00:30:31,530 --> 00:30:36,150
Speaker 1: present.  I  tried  to  make  as  many  moves  as  I 

514
00:30:36,150 --> 00:30:38,340
Speaker 1: could  and  I  tried  to  stay  with  them.  If  the 

515
00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:42,810
Speaker 1: move  was  made,  I  was  in  it.  Then  we get to the hill and I was like, " Wow, 

516
00:30:42,810 --> 00:30:50,490
Speaker 1: I'm  moving."  You know when you get to do things and you're like, "Oh." I  was  feeling  so  good  and  we  kept 

517
00:30:50,490 --> 00:30:53,550
Speaker 1: going  and  I  just  wanted  to keep  fighting  as  much  as 

518
00:30:53,550 --> 00:30:58,710
Speaker 1: I  could.
 We  get  to  the  point  where  you're like, "I  did 

519
00:30:58,710 --> 00:31:03,390
Speaker 1: everything  I  could.  I  gave  my  absolute  best."  And  honestly, 

520
00:31:03,390 --> 00:31:06,990
Speaker 1: I'm  very  proud  of  that  performance  and  I  would  never 

521
00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:10,620
Speaker 1: take  anything  from  that.  I  would  always,  always  appreciate  the 

522
00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:16,470
Speaker 1: opportunity  that  I'm  given  and  just  whatever  it  is,  whatever 

523
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:19,650
Speaker 1: I  get,  whatever  it  is,  I'm  always  like, " I'll  take 

524
00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:27,390
Speaker 1: it  with  grace  and  fight  for  it."  Not  everybody  gets 

525
00:31:27,390 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: that  opportunity,  and  I  got  it.  I  was  there and I  gave 

526
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,180
Speaker 1: my  best.  And  fourth  is  still  a  big,  big,  big 

527
00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:39,930
Speaker 1: performance.  So  I'm  really  looking  forward  to  what's  come  next. 

528
00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: I  hope  I  can  do  well.  I  feel  like  I'm 

529
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,969
Speaker 1: still  growing.  I'm  only  30.9,  so  I  still  have  a 

530
00:31:50,969 --> 00:31:52,050
Speaker 1: couple  more  years.

531
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,450
Speaker 3: 30. 9,  that's  your age. I've  never  heard  anybody  put  it  in 

532
00:31:57,450 --> 00:31:57,751
Speaker 3: point  something, but yeah-

533
00:31:57,751 --> 00:31:59,700
Speaker 4: It's  so  close.

534
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: It's so close.  So  yeah,  so  I  think  there's still more  to  be  achieved 

535
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,050
Speaker 3: and  I  believe  that I  still  have  a  lot  more  to 

536
00:32:13,050 --> 00:32:19,170
Speaker 3: show  and  a  lot  more  to  prove  to myself that do  not  limit 

537
00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:26,490
Speaker 3: yourself,  anything  is  possible.  And  to  think that five years ago I almost was like, "Maybe I'll just  put  this  running 

538
00:32:26,490 --> 00:32:26,641
Speaker 3: to  the side." Here we are now.

539
00:32:26,641 --> 00:32:26,642
Speaker 4: I'm glad you didn't.

540
00:32:26,642 --> 00:32:26,762
Speaker 3: Good idea that you did not do that. Exactly.

541
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:35,002
Speaker 4: (inaudible) .

542
00:32:35,002 --> 00:32:35,003
Speaker 1: Never give up hope.

543
00:32:36,540 --> 00:32:38,730
Speaker 3: So  glad  you  didn't  do  that.  We're  all  so  glad 

544
00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: you  didn't  do  that.  Sharon,  when  I  look  at  your 

545
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,970
Speaker 3: results,  and  your,  again,  still  pretty  short  marathon  career  and 

546
00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:51,300
Speaker 3: what  you're  doing  on  these  courses  that  are  known  for 

547
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:56,670
Speaker 3: hills.  I  mean  New  York  win,  Boston,  second,  Paris,  a 

548
00:32:56,670 --> 00:32:58,980
Speaker 3: hilly  course  that  people  went  faster  on  than  I  think 

549
00:32:58,980 --> 00:33:02,220
Speaker 3: most  people  expected,  fourth  place  just  out  of  the  medals, 

550
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:06,030
Speaker 3: but  a  tremendous  result  for  you  there.  Are  you  a 

551
00:33:06,030 --> 00:33:09,060
Speaker 3: hill  runner?  Is  this  what  you  look  for?  Do  you 

552
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: look  for  hilly  courses?  How  do  you  see  yourself  in 

553
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,380
Speaker 3: terms  of  where  you  think  you  have  the  best  chance 

554
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 3: to  win  when  it  comes  to  marathons  or  even  in 

555
00:33:19,260 --> 00:33:20,790
Speaker 3: shorter  distances  like  a  half?

556
00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: Honestly,  I  feel  like  for  these  courses,  I  feel  like 

557
00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:30,450
Speaker 1: I  just  get  the  best  training  that  I  know  is 

558
00:33:30,450 --> 00:33:33,900
Speaker 1: best  for  that.  And  to  be  honest,  I've  never  tried any other course. 

559
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: I've  only  been  able  to  do  this.  And  honestly,  I 

560
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,910
Speaker 1: think  we're  all  different.  I  think  we  are  all  different 

561
00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:49,229
Speaker 1: in  the  way  we  view  things.  And  for  me,  I 

562
00:33:49,230 --> 00:33:53,610
Speaker 1: always  think,  if  you  choose  something,  you  really  want  to 

563
00:33:53,610 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: do  it.  I  feel  like  every  time  I  go  to 

564
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: these  races  and  to  these  courses,  it's  like  I  can 

565
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:06,510
Speaker 1: do  it  and  I  try  to  do  the  workouts  that 

566
00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:09,180
Speaker 1: I  know  are  going  to  help  me  in  those  courses 

567
00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: and  everything.
 I  think  part  of  it  is  more  mental 

568
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: for  me  than  anything.  I'm  always  like,  'I  know  it's 

569
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,060
Speaker 1: going  to  be  hard,  so  I  have  to  be  prepared 

570
00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:24,300
Speaker 1: and  be  there  and  do  the  things  that I know are  going  to 

571
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:30,330
Speaker 1: help  me."  But  I  also  think  that  I  just  have 

572
00:34:30,330 --> 00:34:34,950
Speaker 1: strong  muscles.  I  don't  know,  I  usually  just  try  to 

573
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:38,339
Speaker 1: figure  out  things.  I  think  I  just  have  a  way 

574
00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:43,890
Speaker 1: of  trying  to  figure  out...  Anything  that  comes  hard  for 

575
00:34:43,890 --> 00:34:46,739
Speaker 1: me  I  feel  like  I  just  try  to  make...  It 

576
00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: gives  me  this  fight  that  I  always  want  to  fight 

577
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,570
Speaker 1: for.  Maybe  it  might  be  different  when  I  start  running 

578
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:59,850
Speaker 1: on  a  flat  course  or a faster course,  but  for  now,  I  honestly 

579
00:34:59,850 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: think  I'm  just  fine  where  I  am.  I  just  want 

580
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,700
Speaker 1: to  maybe  keep  doing  it.  I'll  try  in  a  few 

581
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:11,489
Speaker 1: years  or  maybe  a  year  depending.

582
00:35:11,790 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: Well,  you  said  mental.  Becs,  one  thing  that's  in  common 

583
00:35:15,989 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: in  addition  to  the  hills  on  these  courses  that  you're 

584
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,540
Speaker 3: doing  so  well  on  is  no  pacers,  right?  So  you're 

585
00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:21,811
Speaker 3: out  there-

586
00:35:21,811 --> 00:35:21,812
Speaker 4: Yeah, no formation.

587
00:35:21,812 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: So you're out there  on  your  own.  I  think  just  talking  to  you, 

588
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,170
Speaker 3: listening  to  you,  hopefully  our  listeners  are  getting  this,  you 

589
00:35:28,170 --> 00:35:32,010
Speaker 3: could  see  how  the  mind  of  Sharon  Lokedi  works  and 

590
00:35:32,010 --> 00:35:34,049
Speaker 3: the  positivity.

591
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 4: I was  going  to  say  the  joy,  yeah.

592
00:35:37,350 --> 00:35:39,060
Speaker 3: That's  got  to  come  in  handy  when  you're  out  there 

593
00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:43,830
Speaker 3: by  yourself  attacking  Heartbreak  Hill  or  those  hills  in  Central 

594
00:35:43,830 --> 00:35:46,739
Speaker 3: Park  or  that  hill  in  Paris  that  looked  like  it 

595
00:35:46,739 --> 00:35:47,551
Speaker 3: was  straight  up.

596
00:35:47,551 --> 00:35:47,821
Speaker 4: It was brutal.

597
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:53,070
Speaker 1: I  usually  say, " Don't  look  at  the  end  of  it. 

598
00:35:53,070 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: Just  look  just  below  in  front  of  your  legs  or 

599
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: your  feet.  Just  don't  look  ahead.  Just  take  it  step 

600
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,509
Speaker 1: by  step."  And just like  everything,  just  take  one  goal  at  a 

601
00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: time,  and  I  think  that's  usually  how  I try  to  view 

602
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: it  and  say  it  like, " Just  deal  with  what  you 

603
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,290
Speaker 1: have  now  and  then  just  keep  going  uphill  and  then 

604
00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:18,540
Speaker 1: with  no  time,  you'll  be  over  it."

605
00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:21,870
Speaker 4: It  might  hurt,  but  you'll  get  through  it.

606
00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:27,779
Speaker 1: Yeah.  It's  definitely  it's  going  to  be  hard,  so  just 

607
00:36:27,779 --> 00:36:31,140
Speaker 1: take it  just  a  little  bit  and  you'll  get  through  it. 

608
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,339
Speaker 1: You'll  get  through  it  for  sure.

609
00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:38,460
Speaker 4: Sharon,  you  already  mentioned  earlier  that  you  train  between  Flagstaff 

610
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,081
Speaker 4: and  then  Kenya  as  well.

611
00:36:40,081 --> 00:36:40,381
Speaker 1: Yeah.

612
00:36:40,980 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 4: I  know  a  lot  of  our  listeners  are  so  intrigued 

613
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,610
Speaker 4: to  know  the  differences  between  the  two.  There's  a  fair 

614
00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:51,780
Speaker 4: few  training  camps  that  go  on  now  that  all  runners 

615
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:54,210
Speaker 4: can  go  to,  which  is  unreal  to  be  able  to 

616
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: experience  this  legendary  Kenyan  way  of  training  to  be  the 

617
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,830
Speaker 4: fastest  runners  on  the  planet.  So  what  are  the  biggest 

618
00:37:01,830 --> 00:37:04,739
Speaker 4: differences  for  you, in  your  opinion,  between  the  two  places?

619
00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Well,  I  think  Kenya, for me, I feel like  it's  very  low- key.  It's  very 

620
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,650
Speaker 1: humbling.  It's  very  humbling.  You  get  in  there  and  you're 

621
00:37:19,650 --> 00:37:23,430
Speaker 1: in a  training  camp  Monday  through  Saturday.  You  wake  up  in 

622
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:25,500
Speaker 1: the  morning,  you  go for a  run,  you  come  back,  you  eat, 

623
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:29,910
Speaker 1: you  sleep.  You  are  asleep  for  a  couple  hours.  You 

624
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: wake  up,  you  eat,  you  rest  a  little  bit,  you 

625
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: go  for  your  double  work.  That's  the  only  thing  that 

626
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,500
Speaker 1: you  do.
 I  mean,  you have treatment  like  massage  and  physio  in 

627
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: between  and  all  that  stuff,  but  there's  just  nothing  out 

628
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: there.  It's  all  just  you  and your  training and  your  recovery.  I 

629
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,790
Speaker 1: guess  there's  also  the  part  where  you  have  a  group 

630
00:37:53,790 --> 00:37:58,500
Speaker 1: of  people  to  go  with.  You  always  have  someone  to 

631
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:01,649
Speaker 1: go  with.  You are  always  not  by  yourself  or  anything  like 

632
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:09,330
Speaker 1: that.  People  are  very  supportive.  They're  always  like...  You  can 

633
00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:11,819
Speaker 1: always  have  someone  to  run  with.  You  can  always  have 

634
00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: someone  to  do  the  workouts  with.  It  just  makes  it 

635
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,069
Speaker 1: so  easy  on  your  mind  and  you're  so  relaxed  and 

636
00:38:17,070 --> 00:38:21,029
Speaker 1: you're  so  calm.  And for you it's  just  to  follow  and  just  let 

637
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:24,390
Speaker 1: other  people  do  the  work  for  you.  I  feel  like 

638
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:28,380
Speaker 1: it  makes  it  so  easy  to  just  get  in  shape 

639
00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:31,980
Speaker 1: quicker  and  get  to  enjoy  other  things  that  comes  with  it.

640
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 4: Wow,  that  sounds  like  an  absolute  dream.  When  can  I  go?

641
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:43,890
Speaker 1: Anytime  you  want to come,  honestly,  all  of  you  are  so  welcome. I feel like that's 

642
00:38:47,219 --> 00:38:49,860
Speaker 1: the  part  of  it  that  just  makes  it...  It's  just 

643
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:53,190
Speaker 1: very  down  to  earth.  You  just  don't  have  anything  else 

644
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:56,940
Speaker 1: to  do.  Sundays  are  usually  off  and  you  can  just 

645
00:38:56,940 --> 00:38:59,910
Speaker 1: go  do  whatever,  but  you're  also  out  in  the  forest. 

646
00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:05,340
Speaker 1: As  I  said,  it's  very  quiet,  very  calming.  I  know 

647
00:39:05,340 --> 00:39:08,700
Speaker 1: most  people  find  that  very  helpful.  For  myself  I  do 

648
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:11,580
Speaker 1: find  that  very  helpful  that  I'm  just  there  just  to 

649
00:39:11,580 --> 00:39:17,070
Speaker 1: focus  on  that,  nothing  else. I just find it  (inaudible) . And  I  get  to 

650
00:39:17,070 --> 00:39:18,990
Speaker 1: see  my  family  too.  That's  a  bonus.

651
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,270
Speaker 4: That's  so  cool.

652
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: I  think  that,  yeah,  that  makes  sense.  Sometimes  I  can't 

653
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: even,  because  I  said  I'm  always  there  Monday  through  Sunday, 

654
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: so  I  only  see  them on the  weekend,  on  Sundays,  and  then 

655
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,420
Speaker 1: I  go  back.  But  it's  just  the  closeness  of  them 

656
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:34,980
Speaker 1: being  close  helps  sometimes.

657
00:39:36,210 --> 00:39:41,460
Speaker 3: Sharon,  when  you  were  growing  up  in  Kenya,  there  was 

658
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: something,  violence,  when  you  were  about  14  years  old,  some 

659
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:51,779
Speaker 3: political  violence  that  really  caused  displacement  for  you.  And  that 

660
00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:54,270
Speaker 3: was,  I'm  sure,  a  difficult  time  for  you,  for  your 

661
00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:58,500
Speaker 3: family.  What  kind  of  impact  did  that  have  on  you? 

662
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:02,819
Speaker 3: And  then  how  did  you  ultimately  find  your  way  from 

663
00:40:02,820 --> 00:40:07,650
Speaker 3: Kenya  to  an  American  college  campus  in  Lawrence,  Kansas?

664
00:40:10,290 --> 00:40:14,940
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think  that  was  post- election  violence,  the  one  that  you 

665
00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:19,140
Speaker 1: were  talking,  I  think  it  was  around  2007. I think I was in  eighth  grade. 

666
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:26,820
Speaker 1: It  went  on  for  two  months  and  just  two  months 

667
00:40:26,820 --> 00:40:31,980
Speaker 1: of  unsettlement,  people  were  just  all  over  the...  You couldn't just stay in  your 

668
00:40:31,980 --> 00:40:34,410
Speaker 1: home.  I  guess  you'll  come  to  your  home  during  the 

669
00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:37,410
Speaker 1: day  and  then  during  the  night  you  just had  to  go 

670
00:40:37,410 --> 00:40:40,770
Speaker 1: and  sleep  somewhere  in  some  hidden  place  in  the  forest. 

671
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:45,690
Speaker 1: It was  just  things  that  happened  at  that  point  where  you're 

672
00:40:45,690 --> 00:40:48,570
Speaker 1: like,  you're  just  a  kid,  you  don't  know  anything.  We 

673
00:40:48,570 --> 00:40:51,810
Speaker 1: just  had  to  follow  what  our  elders  were  doing  and 

674
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:56,430
Speaker 1: most  like  my  grandma  and  everyone.  Yeah,  even  after  that, 

675
00:40:56,430 --> 00:41:02,790
Speaker 1: it  just  was  so hard to go from...
 We  used  to go to...  My  primary  school 

676
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:05,489
Speaker 1: was  maybe  four  kilometers  away,  so  every  time  we  went 

677
00:41:05,489 --> 00:41:11,218
Speaker 1: to  school  it  still  was  very,  very  unsafe.  And  so 

678
00:41:11,219 --> 00:41:17,010
Speaker 1: we had to go  in  groups  and  stuff,  and  it  wasn't  good  for 

679
00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:20,670
Speaker 1: anyone.  I  think  for  most  kids it  just  was  things  that 

680
00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: are  like  they'd  never  seen.  Our  parents,  they had seen  it  before, 

681
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: so  they  just  were  telling  us  stories.  And  then  for 

682
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,910
Speaker 1: us  to  be  in  that,  I  think  it  affected  us 

683
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:32,670
Speaker 1: in  a  way  that  you just  see  life  now  in  a 

684
00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: different...  Things  happen  and  politics  and  everything  just  changes  the 

685
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: way  people are.  It  just  affects  people  that  you  don't  think 

686
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,819
Speaker 1: would.
 I  feel  like  even  in  my  mind  I  still 

687
00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:47,069
Speaker 1: think  about  that.  Every  time  I  go  home  to  see 

688
00:41:47,070 --> 00:41:52,350
Speaker 1: my  grandmother,  you  can  still  picture  all  that.  It's  been 

689
00:41:52,350 --> 00:41:56,310
Speaker 1: a  long  time,  but it  still  is  something  that  is  affecting. 

690
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:59,009
Speaker 1: And  you  never  know,  it  might  happen  anytime.  It's  just 

691
00:41:59,010 --> 00:42:02,190
Speaker 1: the  things  that are  always  happening  all  the  time  around  election 

692
00:42:02,190 --> 00:42:07,140
Speaker 1: time.  And  yeah,  it's  definitely  not  safe  and  not  good 

693
00:42:07,140 --> 00:42:10,230
Speaker 1: for  people  that  are  growing  up  and  seeing  all  that.


694
00:42:11,580 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: And  then,  yeah,  after  that,  I  graduated  primary  school,  then 

695
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,710
Speaker 1: I  went  to  high  school.  I  was  running  in  high 

696
00:42:19,710 --> 00:42:23,190
Speaker 1: school  a  little  bit,  not  as  much, and then  I  stopped.  And 

697
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:29,130
Speaker 1: then  after  I  graduated  high  school,  I  was  home  and 

698
00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:33,390
Speaker 1: my  mom  couldn't  afford  to  pay  for  my  college  tuition, 

699
00:42:33,570 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: so  I  started  training  again..  I  had  had  a  few 

700
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,830
Speaker 1: people  that  had  come  to  the  US  through  scholarships  and 

701
00:42:40,830 --> 00:42:43,710
Speaker 1: everything.  I  knew  I  had  in  me  still  like  a 

702
00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: runner.  I went back  to  training  camp  and  started  training  again  from 

703
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:53,340
Speaker 1: zero  because  I  had  stopped  three  years  because  at  that 

704
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:55,020
Speaker 1: point  I  was  like, " Yeah,  I  just want  to  grow  up 

705
00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:59,550
Speaker 1: and  go  to  college  like  everyone."  And  then  after that, it was  just 

706
00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:02,940
Speaker 1: hard  for  my  mom  to  take  care  of  all  of 

707
00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:06,870
Speaker 1: us.  So  then  yeah,  I  started training  and  within  eight  months 

708
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:10,859
Speaker 1: I  was  ready  to  go.  I  got  a  scholarship  and 

709
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: I  came  to  Kansas.
 I'd  never  been  anywhere  outside  of 

710
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,380
Speaker 1: Kenya.  It  was  my  first  time  traveling.  I  came  to 

711
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:24,690
Speaker 1: Kansas  in  January,  which  was  not  the  best  time  of 

712
00:43:24,690 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: the  year. Take shock to the system to go  from  Kenya  to  the  winter.  But  honestly,  I 

713
00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: feel  like  when  I  got  there,  they  were  very  helpful 

714
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: and  they  helped  me  cope  with  life  in  the  US 

715
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,500
Speaker 1: and  everything  and  with  running. And  I'm  very  grateful  because  I 

716
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:52,049
Speaker 1: think  part  of  the  person  I  am  came  from  the 

717
00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:55,830
Speaker 1: training  I  got  in  Kansas  and  everything  that  I,  when 

718
00:43:55,830 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: I  was  there,  I  grew  up and  I  became  a  better  person.

719
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,049
Speaker 3: Well,  we  have  to  say  goodbye  to  Becs.  She's  got 

720
00:44:04,050 --> 00:44:07,215
Speaker 3: to  go  off  and  teach  a  Peloton  class.  Her  runners 

721
00:44:07,215 --> 00:44:09,690
Speaker 3: are  waiting  for  her  on  the  treadmill.  So  Becs,  thank 

722
00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:12,330
Speaker 3: you,  and  we  will  see  you  soon.  Sharon,  we're  going 

723
00:44:12,330 --> 00:44:16,020
Speaker 3: to  keep  going  with  you.  Yeah,  I  just  picture  young 

724
00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:20,969
Speaker 3: Sharon  Lokedi  in  Lawrence,  Kansas.  I  mean  we  say  here 

725
00:44:20,969 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: The  Wizard  of  Oz, " You're  not  in  Kansas  anymore."  You 

726
00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:27,930
Speaker 3: weren't  in  Kenya  anymore,  you  were  in  Kansas,  actually  in 

727
00:44:27,930 --> 00:44:35,070
Speaker 3: Kansas  and  doing  amazing  things,  an  incredible  college  career,  winning 

728
00:44:35,070 --> 00:44:41,130
Speaker 3: the  10,000  meters  NCAA  title  in  2018.  From  a  competitive 

729
00:44:41,130 --> 00:44:43,710
Speaker 3: point  of  view,  did  you  come  out  of  college  thinking, "

730
00:44:43,710 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: Okay,  I'm  a 10, 000  kind  of  runner,  I'm  a  track 

731
00:44:47,610 --> 00:44:51,030
Speaker 3: runner."?  Where  did  you  see  your  career  going  at  that  point?

732
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,090
Speaker 1: Oh  yeah,  exactly  as  you  said, I came, I was like, " I  can  do  this 

733
00:44:57,090 --> 00:45:06,570
Speaker 1: now.  Five,  10K  runner."  Professional  running,  it's  not  fun.  It's 

734
00:45:06,570 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: not  easy.

735
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: No.

736
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,050
Speaker 1: You  come  in  from  college  and  you're  used  to  doing 

737
00:45:13,050 --> 00:45:16,140
Speaker 1: all  these  things, you're  used  to  getting  all  these  treatment,  you're 

738
00:45:16,140 --> 00:45:20,219
Speaker 1: used  to  always  the  racing  every  other  weekend.  And  then 

739
00:45:20,219 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: you  get  to  professional  running  and  you're  only  racing  maybe 

740
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,580
Speaker 1: two  or  three  times  in  the  indoors  and  then  you 

741
00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:31,890
Speaker 1: go  outdoors  and  only it's  the  same  thing.  It  was  just 

742
00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:36,330
Speaker 1: that  shift.  Now  you  have  so  much  time  and  you're 

743
00:45:36,330 --> 00:45:38,010
Speaker 1: just  trying  to  figure  out  what  to  do  with  all 

744
00:45:38,010 --> 00:45:43,739
Speaker 1: this  time.  You're  training.  I  feel  like  with  college  you 

745
00:45:43,739 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: are  racing  all  the  time  that  you  got  fitter  so 

746
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,350
Speaker 1: quick,  and  professional  running,  you're  not  racing  as  much,  you 

747
00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:51,810
Speaker 1: only  have  to  have  a  few  certain  races  and  you 

748
00:45:51,810 --> 00:45:54,540
Speaker 1: have  to  be  on  your  top  shape.
 I  think  just 

749
00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:58,890
Speaker 1: figuring  how  that  works,  it  took  me  a  while.  I 

750
00:45:58,890 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: would  go  to  the races and I'm  running  well,  but  I  was  just average. 

751
00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: I  expected  to once I  get  to  professional  running  I'll  start  running 

752
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,730
Speaker 1: so  fast  because  now  I  have  all  the  time  to 

753
00:46:11,730 --> 00:46:15,060
Speaker 1: recover  and  do  all  this  stuff.  But  that  wasn't  the 

754
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:19,170
Speaker 1: case.  It  just  had  to  be  a  lot  of  learning 

755
00:46:19,170 --> 00:46:22,050
Speaker 1: and  also  just  trying  to  get  used  to  this  new 

756
00:46:22,050 --> 00:46:30,690
Speaker 1: lifestyle  and  just  trying  to  figure  out.  And  then  COVID 

757
00:46:30,690 --> 00:46:34,589
Speaker 1: hit,  and  because  I  graduated  2019  and  then  I  had 

758
00:46:34,830 --> 00:46:38,250
Speaker 1: almost  maybe  two  or  three  and  then  COVID, and  then  we 

759
00:46:38,250 --> 00:46:41,310
Speaker 1: didn't  do  anything  for  a  while.  And  then  after  that, 

760
00:46:41,310 --> 00:46:44,609
Speaker 1: after  COVID, like 2021,  then  I  was  like, " You  know  what?  Maybe 

761
00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:47,100
Speaker 1: I'm  just  going  to  switch  the  roads".  Then  I  started 

762
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: doing  road  races  in  the  summer.  I  think  that  is 

763
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,420
Speaker 1: when  things  were  like, " Okay,  maybe  this  is  where  I 

764
00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:58,951
Speaker 1: belong  more  than  anything."  I  started  focusing  more  on  the  road racing and yeah, I guess here we are now.

765
00:46:58,951 --> 00:47:05,969
Speaker 3: I'm going  to  challenge  your  description  of  yourself  as  average  in 

766
00:47:05,969 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: college  with  an  NCAA  title  in the 10, 000  meters.  But-

767
00:47:11,610 --> 00:47:16,110
Speaker 1: No,  in  college  it  was great, but you  have  to  know,  if  I 

768
00:47:16,110 --> 00:47:17,910
Speaker 1: had  to  make  teams,  I  had  to  be  on  a 

769
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: different  level.  And  once  you're  professional  runner,  you  have  to 

770
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,190
Speaker 1: be  making  teams.  You're  getting  signs  to  be  running  these 

771
00:47:26,190 --> 00:47:30,149
Speaker 1: times  and  making  teams  and  everything.  And  with  Kenya,  it 

772
00:47:33,210 --> 00:47:33,391
Speaker 1: never  went anywhere.

773
00:47:33,391 --> 00:47:36,570
Speaker 3: It's a  hard  team  to  make.  I  mean,  how  much  of 

774
00:47:36,570 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: that is  in  your  mind?  I  mean,  you  mentioned  that  you 

775
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,410
Speaker 3: were  an  alternate  for  Peres.  Obviously  someone  dropped  out  and 

776
00:47:43,410 --> 00:47:47,700
Speaker 3: you  ended  up  getting  in,  but  you're  coming  from  the 

777
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:52,380
Speaker 3: hardest  country  in  the  world  to  make  a  team.  You 

778
00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:53,910
Speaker 3: do  spend  a  lot  of  your  time  in  the  US, 

779
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: but  how  does  that  make  you  raise  your  game?  I 

780
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,670
Speaker 3: know  this  was  your  first  Olympics,  but  is  that  in 

781
00:47:59,670 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: the  back  of  your  mind  often  like, " I'm  not  just 

782
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,089
Speaker 3: competing  against  the  field,  but  I'm  competing  against  my  country 

783
00:48:06,090 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: women,"  which  in  a  way  for  you  is  the  hardest 

784
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 3: competition?  You've  got  women  like  Hellen  Obiri  and  folks  like 

785
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: that  out  there  running  alongside  you.

786
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:21,810
Speaker 1: Yeah,  it  definitely  is  hard  because  there's  always  new  athletes 

787
00:48:21,810 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: coming  in  and  they're  fast  and  they're  ready  to  go. 

788
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: You  always  have  to  be  on  your  A  game.  I 

789
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,410
Speaker 1: would  say  that,  you  always  have  to  be  ready  to 

790
00:48:34,410 --> 00:48:40,170
Speaker 1: go.  I  think  for  a  long  time  I  just  was  like, "

791
00:48:40,170 --> 00:48:42,870
Speaker 1: I'm  just  every  other  run  just  trying  to  run."  But now 

792
00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:45,989
Speaker 1: it's  like  I  want  to  put  myself  in  the  mix. 

793
00:48:45,989 --> 00:48:48,989
Speaker 1: I  want  to  be  in  the  position  where  every  time 

794
00:48:48,989 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: they  get  to  select,  they're  like, " Okay,  you  have  to think about... " 

795
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,370
Speaker 1: I  have  to  be  with the  people  being  named,  and  that 

796
00:48:59,370 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: has  to come with  how  I  perform  or  how  I  compete  and 

797
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: all  that  stuff.  And  that's  why it's like I always  have  to  work  extra  hard.

798
00:49:07,830 --> 00:49:10,590
Speaker 3: One  of  the  reasons  we're  so  excited  to  have  you 

799
00:49:10,590 --> 00:49:13,530
Speaker 3: come  back  to  New  York  for  the  United  Airlines  NYC 

800
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: Half  is  just  your  ability  to  engage  with  the  fans 

801
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:21,750
Speaker 3: I  think  is  something  that's  really  special  and  really  so 

802
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:24,810
Speaker 3: needed  for  the  sport.  I  can  tell  you,  I  don't 

803
00:49:24,810 --> 00:49:27,180
Speaker 3: think  you  heard  this  in  the  intro  before  you  came 

804
00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: on,  but  you  are  my  teenage  daughter's  favorite  runner.

805
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:32,701
Speaker 1: Hi,  Julia.

806
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:36,510
Speaker 3: Julia,  exactly.  Her  friend,  Priya,  who's  always  waiting  for  you 

807
00:49:36,510 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: at  the  finish  line  with  a  sign,  they  love  you, 

808
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:43,350
Speaker 3: you're  interacting  with  them  and  others  on  social  media.  You 

809
00:49:43,350 --> 00:49:48,750
Speaker 3: just  have  a  certain  connection  to  people.  What does  it  mean 

810
00:49:48,750 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: for  you,  Sharon,  to  play  that  role  of  inspiring  young 

811
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,790
Speaker 3: people  to  be  fans  of  the  sport,  to  run  as 

812
00:49:59,790 --> 00:50:02,910
Speaker 3: well?  You  really  have  a  special  ability,  I  think,  to 

813
00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: bring  that  out  of  people,  and  not  everybody  in  this 

814
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,569
Speaker 3: sport  has  that.  It's  a  sport  that  can  be  really 

815
00:50:09,570 --> 00:50:13,770
Speaker 3: hard  to,  let's  face  it,  have  a  personality  when  you're 

816
00:50:13,770 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 3: spending  so  much  of  your  time  staring  at  that  road, 

817
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,969
Speaker 3: staring  at  that  runner  in  front  of  you.  Is  it 

818
00:50:20,969 --> 00:50:22,020
Speaker 3: just  natural  for  you?

819
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,770
Speaker 1: Thank  you for  all  the  sweet  things  that  you  said.  I 

820
00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:33,810
Speaker 1: appreciate  that.  I  just  think  that  to  be  where  I 

821
00:50:33,810 --> 00:50:40,290
Speaker 1: am,  I  was  like  them  one  time.  The  people  that 

822
00:50:40,590 --> 00:50:44,370
Speaker 1: I  used  to  look  up  to,  they  were  very  inspiring. 

823
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: They  used  to  work  so  hard,  and  I  just  wanted 

824
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,910
Speaker 1: to  be  like  them.  And  now  that I've gotten to  this  stage,  I 

825
00:50:50,910 --> 00:50:56,730
Speaker 1: just  want  to also the way that  I  felt  and  the  way  that  I 

826
00:50:56,730 --> 00:51:02,070
Speaker 1: was  looking  at  people  working  hard  and  being  so  good 

827
00:51:02,070 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: is  I  just  want  to be  as  present  and  just  show 

828
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,830
Speaker 1: them  that  anything  is  possible.  You  can  achieve  anything.  I 

829
00:51:10,830 --> 00:51:14,070
Speaker 1: think  part of me is  it  makes  me  so  happy  when  I  see 

830
00:51:14,070 --> 00:51:19,350
Speaker 1: someone  so  excited  for  me.  It's  like, " Who's  this  person? 

831
00:51:19,350 --> 00:51:22,290
Speaker 1: They're  just  so  happy  for  me."  I  just  want  to 

832
00:51:22,739 --> 00:51:25,620
Speaker 1: be  with  them  and  give  them  a  hug  and  appreciate 

833
00:51:25,620 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: them  and  just  tell  them, " You  can  do  it.  Anything 

834
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: is  possible.  Just  believe  in  yourself,  put  in  the  work, and 

835
00:51:31,890 --> 00:51:37,379
Speaker 1: anything  is  possible.  Just  don't  count  yourself  out  and  just 

836
00:51:37,380 --> 00:51:40,860
Speaker 1: be  you."
 It's  always  like  the  person  that  you  are 

837
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:46,469
Speaker 1: is  always  going  to  help  someone  else  out  there.  Never 

838
00:51:46,469 --> 00:51:51,569
Speaker 1: change  who  you  are.  We're  all  just  be  the  person 

839
00:51:51,570 --> 00:51:54,780
Speaker 1: that you are.  Just  do  the  things  that  you  love  and  still 

840
00:51:54,780 --> 00:52:05,311
Speaker 1: enjoy  and  still  being  you.  Live  life,  you know?

841
00:52:05,310 --> 00:52:05,312
Speaker 3: 100%.

842
00:52:05,311 --> 00:52:09,690
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.  So  I'm  always  so  excited  to  see  them  and 

843
00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:12,270
Speaker 1: just  tell  them  I'm  really  looking  forward  to  see  them 

844
00:52:12,270 --> 00:52:18,630
Speaker 1: soon.  Everyone  out  there  that's  listening,  life  is  what  you 

845
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:24,630
Speaker 1: picture  and  life  is  what  you  think  of.  If  you 

846
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:26,430
Speaker 1: make  it  hard,  it's  going  to  be  hard.  If  you 

847
00:52:26,430 --> 00:52:29,100
Speaker 1: make  it  easy,  it's  going  to  be  easy,  but  just 

848
00:52:29,580 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: take  it  day  by  day.  Tomorrow's  going  to  be  different 

849
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,860
Speaker 1: and  yesterday  is  already  passed, so just work  on  today  and  focus  on 

850
00:52:38,670 --> 00:52:39,299
Speaker 1: how  tomorrow  is going to be like.

851
00:52:40,590 --> 00:52:45,989
Speaker 3: Beautiful.  Absolutely.  I  know  that  you  have  taken  that  spirit 

852
00:52:45,989 --> 00:52:49,590
Speaker 3: and  you're  giving  back.  I  know  you  have  given  back 

853
00:52:49,590 --> 00:52:55,050
Speaker 3: to  your  high  school  back  in  Kenya,  the  Kapkenda  Girls 

854
00:52:55,050 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 3: High  School.  You've  created  a  running  foundation  back  there.  I 

855
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,070
Speaker 3: know you're  also  helping  your  family,  of  course,  back  in  Kenya. 

856
00:53:02,580 --> 00:53:05,130
Speaker 3: Talk  about  that  foundation  and  what  it  means  for  you 

857
00:53:05,130 --> 00:53:09,210
Speaker 3: to  make  that  investment  in  these  young  girls  who  are 

858
00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:13,500
Speaker 3: just  like  you  were and are going to be  that  next  generation  of  great  runners 

859
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:14,070
Speaker 3: from  Kenya.

860
00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:22,140
Speaker 1: I  always  think  that  life  changes.  I  never  thought  in 

861
00:53:22,140 --> 00:53:24,750
Speaker 1: my  life  I'll  ever  come  to  the  US.  I  came 

862
00:53:24,750 --> 00:53:28,290
Speaker 1: to  the  US  for  school, and it  was  school  and  running.  Also, 

863
00:53:28,860 --> 00:53:32,340
Speaker 1: this  running  has  taken  me  so  many  places.  It's  gotten 

864
00:53:32,340 --> 00:53:35,370
Speaker 1: me  here.  It's gotten  me  to  New  York. It's gotten  me  to  Paris. 

865
00:53:35,370 --> 00:53:38,670
Speaker 1: It's  gotten  me  to  all  the  places  that  I  never 

866
00:53:38,670 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: thought  I  would  be.  And  through  running,  things  can  happen 

867
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,450
Speaker 1: and  life  changes.  And  as  it  changed  for  me,  it 

868
00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:48,330
Speaker 1: changed  for  my  family.  I'm  the  oldest  of  three  siblings, 

869
00:53:48,510 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: so  they're  all  looking  at  me  right  now  and  they're 

870
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,580
Speaker 1: just  like, " If  she  did  it,  we  can  all  do 

871
00:53:53,580 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 1: it."  It's  like  I  just  see  them  working  so  hard 

872
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,510
Speaker 1: now,  and  I'm  like, " If  I  had  not  put  myself 

873
00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:05,460
Speaker 1: out  there  and  worked  so  hard,  they  would've  just  been  like, "

874
00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Oh, it's  anything."  But  they  work  so  hard  now.  That  makes 

875
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,820
Speaker 1: me  so  excited  that  if  they  can  just  get  themselves 

876
00:54:11,820 --> 00:54:14,550
Speaker 1: out there  and  do  the  things  that  they  love  and  they're 

877
00:54:14,550 --> 00:54:17,069
Speaker 1: enjoying,  it  makes  a  difference.

878
00:54:17,069 --> 00:54:21,300
Speaker 3: I  think  about  how  fortunate  you  must  feel  to  have 

879
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: this  dual  existence.  You  have  a  home  in  Flagstaff,  Arizona. 

880
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: You  are  very  much  comfortable  in  America  and  do  a 

881
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,219
Speaker 3: lot  of  your  training  here  in  the  United  States,  but 

882
00:54:32,219 --> 00:54:34,980
Speaker 3: then,  as  you  mentioned,  you  also  go  back  to  Kenya. 

883
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: And  of  course,  there's  been  a  terrible  thing  happening  in 

884
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: Kenya  with  female  runners.  Some  of  them  have  been  facing 

885
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:50,430
Speaker 3: some  violence,  intimate  partners,  boyfriends  who  have  been  abusive  or 

886
00:54:50,430 --> 00:54:56,820
Speaker 3: worse.  Young  women  have  been  killed  after  having  success  as 

887
00:54:56,820 --> 00:55:01,230
Speaker 3: a  runner  coming  back  and  facing  this  violence,  which  really 

888
00:55:01,230 --> 00:55:07,110
Speaker 3: has  become  a  terrible  problem  in the  sport  for  women,  especially 

889
00:55:07,110 --> 00:55:11,700
Speaker 3: from  Kenya.  What  would  you  say  to  a  young  Kenyan 

890
00:55:12,030 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 3: female  runner  who  is  starting  to  have  some  success?  Being 

891
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,500
Speaker 3: targeted  this  way  could  be  a  threat  for  them,  something 

892
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 3: that could be  a  problem  for  them.  What  would  your  advice  be 

893
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,370
Speaker 3: to  a  young  woman  like  that?

894
00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:35,700
Speaker 1: I  honestly  say  that  just  you have to... I  think  for  me,  I 

895
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:39,299
Speaker 1: feel  like  I'm  always  like,  I've  traveled,  I've  seen  things, 

896
00:55:39,660 --> 00:55:44,489
Speaker 1: I  have  learned  a  few  things here and  there.  I  think  I 

897
00:55:44,489 --> 00:55:49,290
Speaker 1: just  want  to  tell  them  that  just  before  you  involve 

898
00:55:49,290 --> 00:55:52,469
Speaker 1: someone  like  your  boyfriend  or  your  lover,  just  at  least 

899
00:55:52,469 --> 00:55:55,620
Speaker 1: have  one  of  your  family  members,  like  your  mother  or 

900
00:55:55,620 --> 00:55:58,260
Speaker 1: your  father.  I  feel  like  those  are  the  people  that 

901
00:55:58,260 --> 00:56:00,270
Speaker 1: are  close  to  you and  they  always  want  the  best  for 

902
00:56:00,270 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: you,  and  they  would  never  lie  to  you  or  anything 

903
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,540
Speaker 1: like  that.  I  always  say  start  with  your  family,  start 

904
00:56:06,540 --> 00:56:09,089
Speaker 1: with  your  mother  or  your  dad,  and they  would  help  you 

905
00:56:09,330 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: going  forward.
 It's  also  just  don't  trust  people  as  much. 

906
00:56:17,969 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: Not  everyone  wants  the  best  for  you.  I  feel  like 

907
00:56:21,810 --> 00:56:26,910
Speaker 1: for  most  of  us  women,  we  see  the  best  in 

908
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: most  people  and  we  think  that  when  someone  comes  to 

909
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,739
Speaker 1: you,  you  think  that  they're  just  doing  it  for  you. 

910
00:56:37,260 --> 00:56:40,110
Speaker 1: Most  of  the  time  it's  not  like that. And as  time  goes,  people 

911
00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:43,770
Speaker 1: changes  and  people  change  in  ways  that  you're  not  going 

912
00:56:43,770 --> 00:56:47,190
Speaker 1: to  believe  that  person  was  once  the  person  that  you 

913
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:52,890
Speaker 1: thought  was  going  to  be  there  for  you.  I  would 

914
00:56:52,890 --> 00:56:59,009
Speaker 1: say  just  trust  in  your  parents  first.  Even  the  coaches 

915
00:56:59,010 --> 00:57:04,739
Speaker 1: this  time,  you  cannot  believe  them  as  much.  Just  maintain 

916
00:57:04,739 --> 00:57:08,700
Speaker 1: a  professional  relationship.  If  it's  coaching,  then  let's  be  coaching. 

917
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,180
Speaker 1: Anything  outside  of  that,  just  try  to  maintain  it as  just 

918
00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:16,140
Speaker 1: everybody  else.  Because  even  them,  you  might  think  they  want 

919
00:57:16,140 --> 00:57:18,090
Speaker 1: the  best  for  you,  but  you  don't  know  what  they 

920
00:57:18,090 --> 00:57:22,979
Speaker 1: have.  And  that's what's  been  happening  for  most  of the people, is  the  women, 

921
00:57:22,980 --> 00:57:25,110
Speaker 1: even  now  every  time  I  go  to  Kenya,  it's  like 

922
00:57:25,110 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: you  talk  to  people  and  they're  like, "Yeah,  my  coach  tells 

923
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,580
Speaker 1: me  this.  My  coach  tells  me  this."  It's  like  the 

924
00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:32,460
Speaker 1: things  that  you  hear  are  just...
 I  just  hope  there's 

925
00:57:32,460 --> 00:57:36,810
Speaker 1: more  people  that  can  teach  and  help  those  girls  and 

926
00:57:36,810 --> 00:57:42,780
Speaker 1: tell  them  that  you  just at least  have  some  education  on  how 

927
00:57:42,780 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: they  can  keep  their  money  and  how  they  can  take 

928
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,750
Speaker 1: care  of  themselves.  Our  culture  is  just  so  different  that 

929
00:57:52,050 --> 00:57:57,210
Speaker 1: if  you're  married  or  you're something,  your  husband  has  to  be 

930
00:57:57,210 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: the  one  taking  care  of  everything.  The  world  has  changed, 

931
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,980
Speaker 1: and  I  think  it's  different  now.  I  hope  there  would 

932
00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:08,790
Speaker 1: be  more  people  that  are  helping  us  and  showing  us 

933
00:58:08,790 --> 00:58:11,940
Speaker 1: the  right  ways  and  being  like, " You  need  to  do 

934
00:58:11,940 --> 00:58:14,250
Speaker 1: this.  This  is  not  the  right  way  to  do  it." 

935
00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:18,810
Speaker 1: At  least  have  something  for  yourself.  Just  don't  give  up 

936
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:23,370
Speaker 1: everything.  Just  have  a  bank  account  or  something  somewhere  that 

937
00:58:23,370 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: you  can  hide  something  for  rainy  days,  because  we  shouldn't 

938
00:58:27,690 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: put  things  in  one  basket.  And  I  think  that's  the 

939
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:37,620
Speaker 1: one  thing  that's  still  is  very  not  practiced  as  much.

940
00:58:37,620 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 3: It's  great advice. A lot  of  Americans  may  see  the  prize  money  and 

941
00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:47,220
Speaker 3: it's  good  money  of  course  that  runners  get  here  in 

942
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:50,100
Speaker 3: the  United  States,  but  it's  not  compared  to  what  somebody 

943
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: in  the  NBA or  the  NFL  gets.  But  when you  go  back 

944
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: to  a  place  like  Kenya  with  a  six  figure-

945
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:56,161
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

946
00:58:56,161 --> 00:58:59,010
Speaker 3: ... check,  that's  a  lot  of  money  in  a  place  like 

947
00:58:59,010 --> 00:59:01,890
Speaker 3: that.  So  that's  one  of  the  reasons  that  these  young 

948
00:59:01,890 --> 00:59:06,210
Speaker 3: women  are  finding  themselves  targeted  and  vulnerable.  I  think  your 

949
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 3: advice  is  really,  really  good  advice,  so  hope  it  gets 

950
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: to  some  people  out  there.

951
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah,  I  hope  so  too.  I  hope  so  too.

952
00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: All  right,  so  before  we  let  you  go,  I  want 

953
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,470
Speaker 3: to  just  get  in  your  mind  on  Sunday,  March  16th, 

954
00:59:20,070 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 3: here  in  New  York  City  at  the  starting  line  of 

955
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,030
Speaker 3: the  United  Airlines  NYC  Half  out  in  Brooklyn.  I'm  going 

956
00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:29,100
Speaker 3: to  see  you  there.  I'll  give  you  a  wave,  a 

957
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:31,530
Speaker 3: high  five.  I'm  sure  we'll  connect  and  say  hi  there, 

958
00:59:31,530 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 3: but  I  want  to  get  in  your  mind,  maybe  you 

959
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,950
Speaker 3: visualize  this.  What  is  your  goal  for  this  race? Do  you 

960
00:59:38,970 --> 00:59:42,780
Speaker 3: feel  like  you're  in the  shape  and  the  form  right  now 

961
00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:45,630
Speaker 3: to  go  out  and  win  a  race  like  this?  How 

962
00:59:45,630 --> 00:59:47,910
Speaker 3: do  you  think  you'll  approach  this?  Because  listening  to  you 

963
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 3: earlier  about  what  it  was  like  when  you  won  the 

964
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,030
Speaker 3: marathon  here,  it  did  seem  like  you  liked  to  be 

965
00:59:54,030 --> 00:59:57,390
Speaker 3: in  that  chase  position  a  little  bit.  Maybe  not  comfortable 

966
00:59:57,750 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: having  people  behind  you,  but  you  like  something  to  look 

967
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,390
Speaker 3: at  out  in  front  of  you.  Is  that  the  approach 

968
01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:06,030
Speaker 3: you  take  to a  13. 1  mile  race  like  this?

969
01:00:06,780 --> 01:00:06,781
Speaker 1: No.

970
01:00:06,781 --> 01:00:06,782
Speaker 3: You're going to go for it. You're going. Catch me if you can.

971
01:00:06,782 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: 13.1, I mean,  for  me  right  now  it's  such  a  short  race. 

972
01:00:21,450 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: It's  like  you  get  in  there and  it's  done.  So  I 

973
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: think  it's  just going to be getting in, be  competitive,  stay  with  the  pack  and  as 

974
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:40,350
Speaker 1: we  go,  just  keep  working  on  the  speed  and just trying to see where we are and  towards 

975
01:00:40,350 --> 01:00:44,970
Speaker 1: the  last  few  miles  just  start  pushing.  To  be  honest, 

976
01:00:44,970 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: I  feel  like at  this  point  it's  not  about  chasing.  I 

977
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:54,090
Speaker 1: think  it's  going  to  be  like, " Okay,  let's  try  and 

978
01:00:54,510 --> 01:00:58,290
Speaker 1: see  who's  stronger  here."  So  yeah,  I'm  just  going  to 

979
01:00:58,290 --> 01:01:03,930
Speaker 1: come  in.  I  don't  know,  my  fitness  is  somewhere,  and 

980
01:01:03,930 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: I  think  it'll  just  be  a  really  good  race  to 

981
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,930
Speaker 1: just  be  in  it  and  compete  and  just  see  what 

982
01:01:10,830 --> 01:01:13,860
Speaker 1: we  get  at  the  end  of  it.  But  honestly,  as 

983
01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:16,710
Speaker 1: you  said,  New  York  is  a  place  where  you  never 

984
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: know  what's  going  to  happen.  The  crowd-

985
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:30,390
Speaker 3: Good  things,  Sharon. Good things seem to happen when you come to New York.  We  are  so  glad  you're  coming  back. 

986
01:01:30,690 --> 01:01:33,930
Speaker 3: We  wish  you  all  the  best  in  your  next  couple 

987
01:01:33,930 --> 01:01:37,050
Speaker 3: of  weeks  of  training  and  getting  ready  for  it.  I'm 

988
01:01:37,050 --> 01:01:39,631
Speaker 3: going  to  Tokyo,  I'm  running  the  Tokyo  Marathon  on  Sunday-

989
01:01:39,631 --> 01:01:40,020
Speaker 1: You are?

990
01:01:40,020 --> 01:01:41,221
Speaker 3: So  that's  where  I'll be.

991
01:01:41,221 --> 01:01:41,222
Speaker 1: Oh my God, let's go. So excited for you.

992
01:01:41,222 --> 01:01:41,223
Speaker 3: Thank you.

993
01:01:41,223 --> 01:01:41,430
Speaker 1: Let's get the PB, okay?

994
01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:49,201
Speaker 3: I  don't know.

995
01:01:49,201 --> 01:01:49,471
Speaker 1: Don't  come back without a PB. We need to get a PB.

996
01:01:49,471 --> 01:01:57,150
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's going to happen. I  just  set  one  in  Berlin  last  fall,  but  we'll 

997
01:01:57,150 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 3: see.  We'll  see  if  I  can  at  least  come  close 

998
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,380
Speaker 3: to  that. This  is  my  second  marathon  in  six  months.

999
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,130
Speaker 1: I  mean,  and  then  you'll have  six  months  in  New York.

1000
01:02:05,580 --> 01:02:08,670
Speaker 3: That's right.  Yeah,  I  won't  be  running  that,  but  I'll  at 

1001
01:02:08,670 --> 01:02:11,340
Speaker 3: least  be...  I'll  try  to  keep  in  shape  for  the 

1002
01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:15,270
Speaker 3: fall.  We'll  see  what  happens.  But  so  amazing  to  have 

1003
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 3: you  on.  Can't  wait  to  see  you  in  New  York. 

1004
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: Thank  you  for  being  such  an  awesome  ambassador  for  the 

1005
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,540
Speaker 3: sport  for  us  at  New  York  Road  Runners.  We  will 

1006
01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:27,180
Speaker 3: see  you  at  the  starting  line  of  the  United  Airlines 

1007
01:02:27,810 --> 01:02:28,260
Speaker 3: NYC  Half.

1008
01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: Oh,  thank  you  so  much.  Thank  you  for  having  me 

1009
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,730
Speaker 1: in  the  podcast.  I  am  so  excited  to  see  you 

1010
01:02:35,730 --> 01:02:39,090
Speaker 1: guys  soon.  And  thank  you.  You  guys  are  amazing.

1011
01:02:39,450 --> 01:02:41,790
Speaker 3: If  you'd  like  to  have  a  chance  to  actually  meet 

1012
01:02:41,790 --> 01:02:44,970
Speaker 3: Sharon  in  person  and  you're  running  the  United  Airlines  NYC 

1013
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,630
Speaker 3: Half,  guess  what,  Sharon  Lokedi  will  be  joining  us  at 

1014
01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:52,740
Speaker 3: the  United  Airlines  NYC  Half  Experience  presented  by  New  Balance 

1015
01:02:53,070 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 3: on  Friday,  March  14th.  You'll  find  Sharon  at  the  New 

1016
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 3: York  Road  Runners  membership  booth  at  11:00  A. M.  signing 

1017
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,030
Speaker 3: bibs  and  taking  pictures.  And  then  she'll  be  talking  with 

1018
01:03:03,030 --> 01:03:06,210
Speaker 3: our  coaches  on  the  Running  Lab  stage.  So  make  sure 

1019
01:03:06,210 --> 01:03:09,180
Speaker 3: you  come  by  the  United  Airlines  NYC  Half  Experience  presented 

1020
01:03:09,180 --> 01:03:12,330
Speaker 3: by  New  Balance  for  a  chance  to  meet  Sharon  in 

1021
01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 3: person.
 New  York  Road  Runners  is  a  nonprofit  organization  with 

1022
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 3: a  vision  to  build  healthier  lives  and  stronger  communities  through 

1023
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,940
Speaker 3: the  transformative  power  of  running.  The  support  of  members  and 

1024
01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 3: donors  like  you  helps  us  achieve  our  mission  to  transform 

1025
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 3: the  health  and  well- being  of  our  communities  through  inclusive 

1026
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 3: and  accessible  running  experiences,  empowering  all  to  achieve  their  potential. 

1027
01:03:47,550 --> 01:03:53,490
Speaker 3: Learn  more  and  contribute  at  nyrr. org/ donate.
 Evan  McKiernan 

1028
01:03:53,490 --> 01:03:55,110
Speaker 3: has  been  a  part  of  the  New  York  Road  Runners 

1029
01:03:55,110 --> 01:03:59,460
Speaker 3: community  for  over  a  decade,  running  70  races  since  2012 

1030
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:02,940
Speaker 3: and  volunteering  at  many  more.  Evan  grew  up  watching  his 

1031
01:04:02,940 --> 01:04:05,490
Speaker 3: father  race  in  the  New  York  City  Marathon  and  now in 

1032
01:04:05,910 --> 01:04:09,330
Speaker 3: a  full  circle  moment,  he's  passed  the  tradition  on  having 

1033
01:04:09,330 --> 01:04:12,690
Speaker 3: run  alongside  his  daughter  in  her  first  full  New  York 

1034
01:04:12,690 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: Road  Runners  race  last  August.  Evan  is  both  a  member 

1035
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,290
Speaker 3: of  the  Garden  State  Track  Club  and  the  youth  club 

1036
01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:22,650
Speaker 3: coach  for  the  Junior  Highlanders  Track  Club.  When  he's  not 

1037
01:04:22,650 --> 01:04:27,030
Speaker 3: running,  Evan  is  an  oncology  nurse  practitioner.  Evan  is  currently 

1038
01:04:27,030 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: training  for  the  2025  Virtual  United  Airlines  NYC  Half  Love 

1039
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,650
Speaker 3: of  Running. And  Meb  caught  up  with  him  to  talk  about 

1040
01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:37,110
Speaker 3: his  training  for  today's  Member  Moments.

1041
01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:39,990
Speaker 5: Thanks,  Rob.  Evan,  how  are  you  doing  today?

1042
01:04:40,140 --> 01:04:42,210
Speaker 6: I'm  good,  thank  you  for  having  me,  Meb.  Great  to 

1043
01:04:42,210 --> 01:04:42,630
Speaker 6: speak  with  you.

1044
01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 5: Nice  to  have  you.  You  grew  up  watching  your  dad 

1045
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,380
Speaker 5: run  the  New  York  City  Marathon.  What  was it  like  to 

1046
01:04:49,380 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 5: finally  cross  the  same  finish  line  yourself?

1047
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:59,070
Speaker 6: Yeah,  so  my  parents  worked  opposite  schedules,  so  growing  up, 

1048
01:04:59,250 --> 01:05:02,190
Speaker 6: while  my  dad  was  training,  I  would  usually  chase  after 

1049
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:05,370
Speaker 6: him  on  a  bike  so  he  could  get  his  miles 

1050
01:05:05,370 --> 01:05:08,790
Speaker 6: in.  We  grew  up  next  to  Prospect  Park  in  Brooklyn, 

1051
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 6: so  lots  of  weekend  miles.  I  remember  seeing  him  on 

1052
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,900
Speaker 6: First  Avenue  and  again  on  Fifth.  And  then  for  me, 

1053
01:05:18,900 --> 01:05:23,250
Speaker 6: once  I  started  running,  I  just  really  wanted  to  carry 

1054
01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:25,860
Speaker 6: on  that  tradition  and  really  beat  his  time  if  I  could.

1055
01:05:25,860 --> 01:05:30,450
Speaker 5: That's  awesome.  You  were  his  designated  pacer.

1056
01:05:30,990 --> 01:05:32,130
Speaker 6: Exactly.  Yeah,  exactly.

1057
01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:37,380
Speaker 5: You had  some  pretty  serious  hip  surgery  at  HSS.  As  a 

1058
01:05:37,380 --> 01:05:41,820
Speaker 5: result,  you  went  from  struggling  to  walking  to  running  marathons 

1059
01:05:41,820 --> 01:05:45,030
Speaker 5: and  triathlons.  What  was  the  toughest  part  of  that  journey?

1060
01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:52,170
Speaker 6: Yeah,  so  I'm  also  a  nurse  practitioner,  so  it  was 

1061
01:05:52,170 --> 01:05:54,900
Speaker 6: very  frustrating  at  the  time  to  not  be  able  to 

1062
01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:57,450
Speaker 6: do  what  I  wanted  to  do  and  what  I  loved. 

1063
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,970
Speaker 6: I  was  having  pain  just  walking  and  standing.  But  then 

1064
01:06:02,970 --> 01:06:05,550
Speaker 6: after  the  surgery  and  rehab,  I  was  able  to  get 

1065
01:06:05,550 --> 01:06:09,510
Speaker 6: back  to  running  and  actually  my  first  marathon,  New  York 

1066
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:13,380
Speaker 6: City,  was  after  the  surgery.  I  ran  it  pain- free. 

1067
01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:19,140
Speaker 6: I  ran  my  second,  and  this  year  I  got  into 

1068
01:06:19,140 --> 01:06:22,050
Speaker 6: the  marathon  through  9+ 1  and  I'll  be  running  in 

1069
01:06:22,050 --> 01:06:23,250
Speaker 6: 2025  as  well.

1070
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:29,700
Speaker 5: Incredible.  Tell  our  audience  about  the  struggle  though.  I've  been 

1071
01:06:29,700 --> 01:06:32,310
Speaker 5: there where  you  can't  even  mentally  (inaudible) ,  where  you  can't 

1072
01:06:32,310 --> 01:06:35,220
Speaker 5: even  walk.  I  was  crawling  like  10- month- old  baby 

1073
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,410
Speaker 5: on  my  knees  and  elbows  because  I  cannot  put  weight 

1074
01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 5: on  my  hip because of a hip  fracture.  But  now  you  have  come  over 

1075
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,940
Speaker 5: the  situation  and  ran  70  races  for  the  NYRR  races 

1076
01:06:44,940 --> 01:06:48,570
Speaker 5: since  2012.  But  can  you  take  us  back  what  was it 

1077
01:06:48,570 --> 01:06:50,610
Speaker 5: like  the  first  time  after  the  surgery?

1078
01:06:52,890 --> 01:06:57,930
Speaker 6: So  getting  into  it,  I  did  some  training  in  the 

1079
01:06:57,930 --> 01:07:03,270
Speaker 6: pool,  some  of  the  altered  gravity  running  on  the  treadmill, 

1080
01:07:03,630 --> 01:07:09,180
Speaker 6: and  just  each  step  forward  to  be  pain- free  was 

1081
01:07:09,180 --> 01:07:12,090
Speaker 6: a  little  bit  of  a  success.  And  just  like  running 

1082
01:07:12,090 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 6: in  general,  not  every  run  and  not  every  race  is 

1083
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 6: going  to  be  the  best  race,  but  you  can  learn 

1084
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,180
Speaker 6: something  at  the  end  of  each  one.  And  maybe  you 

1085
01:07:21,180 --> 01:07:24,540
Speaker 6: run  smarter  and  you  see  something  that  you  didn't  have 

1086
01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:28,410
Speaker 6: a  chance  to  see  on  even  a  faster  race,  but 

1087
01:07:28,860 --> 01:07:32,610
Speaker 6: the  next  one  just  gives  you  something  new.  That's  what 

1088
01:07:32,670 --> 01:07:36,390
Speaker 6: I  like  to  take  from  life  in  general.  Just  every 

1089
01:07:36,990 --> 01:07:40,169
Speaker 6: minute  and  every  passing  experience  is  something  that  you  can 

1090
01:07:40,170 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 6: learn  and  grow  from.

1091
01:07:42,060 --> 01:07:44,370
Speaker 5: Absolutely.  It's  not  when  or  where  you  start  but  how 

1092
01:07:44,370 --> 01:07:47,430
Speaker 5: strong  you  finish.  So  talking  about  finish,  last  year  you 

1093
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:51,630
Speaker 5: ran  with  your  daughter in  her  first  NYR  race.  What  does 

1094
01:07:51,630 --> 01:07:54,419
Speaker 5: it  mean  to  you  to  share  this  experience  with  her?

1095
01:07:55,410 --> 01:08:00,810
Speaker 6: Well,  I  think  she  and  her  younger  sister  came  to 

1096
01:08:00,810 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 6: watch  me  run  my  first  marathon,  and  in  the  back 

1097
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,970
Speaker 6: of  my  mind  I  was  thinking  about  seeing  my  dad 

1098
01:08:09,660 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 6: run  the  course  and  maybe  I'm  planting  that  seed  for 

1099
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:20,580
Speaker 6: them.  She's  now  13,  she's  running  track,  she's  running  cross 

1100
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:25,110
Speaker 6: country.  She  really  likes  distance,  so  maybe  we'll  see  a 

1101
01:08:25,110 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 6: marathon  in  the  future.  But  she  ran  her  first  10K. 

1102
01:08:29,460 --> 01:08:33,330
Speaker 6: I  paced  her  for  that.  She  has  a  little  bit 

1103
01:08:33,330 --> 01:08:35,580
Speaker 6: more  speed  than  I  do  now,  so  she  sprinted  to 

1104
01:08:35,580 --> 01:08:40,290
Speaker 6: the  finish  and  crossed  that  first.  But  yeah,  no,  it's 

1105
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:45,390
Speaker 6: great  to  see  someone  else  getting  something  out  of  it 

1106
01:08:45,390 --> 01:08:50,009
Speaker 6: and  positivity  through  running  that  you  want  to  see  for 

1107
01:08:50,010 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 6: other  people  based  on  what  it's  brought  you.

1108
01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:56,010
Speaker 5: Well, talk  about  other  people,  you  are  a  youth  coach.  How 

1109
01:08:56,010 --> 01:08:59,550
Speaker 5: does  that  help  you, what  you  have  learned  from  your  dad 

1110
01:08:59,550 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 5: now  to  help  her  with  your  daughter  and  also  impact 

1111
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 5: on  other  youths?  How's  that?

1112
01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 6: Yeah,  so  I  have  three  daughters  and  a  son.  My 

1113
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:16,140
Speaker 6: three  daughters  are  running  now.  The  steps  that  kids  can 

1114
01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:20,100
Speaker 6: make  in  running  and  athletics  in  general,  the  confidence  that 

1115
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:24,030
Speaker 6: they  can  take  from  the  sport  into  their  daily  life 

1116
01:09:24,420 --> 01:09:28,379
Speaker 6: and  learn  those  little  successes  that  they  can  build  upon 

1117
01:09:28,710 --> 01:09:33,870
Speaker 6: it's  great  to  see.  Not  every  kid  starts  at  the 

1118
01:09:33,870 --> 01:09:37,349
Speaker 6: same  spot,  but  you  can  have  those  little  steps  and 

1119
01:09:37,350 --> 01:09:44,220
Speaker 6: progresses  throughout  the  season.  And  just  to  be  supportive  and 

1120
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 6: be  there  for  the  kids  is  a  great  thing  to 

1121
01:09:47,490 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 6: do  and  to  give  back  to  the  sport  of  running.

1122
01:09:50,670 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 5: Well,  we're  so  glad  to  have  you on Set  the  Pace  podcast. 

1123
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,970
Speaker 5: You've  done  a  great  job  not  only  overcoming  your  situation, 

1124
01:09:56,970 --> 01:10:00,900
Speaker 5: but  helping  others.  So  how's  your  training  going  for the  2025 

1125
01:10:00,900 --> 01:10:03,390
Speaker 5: Virtual  United  Airlines  NYC  Half?

1126
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:11,670
Speaker 6: Yeah,  so  just  starting  out,  for  me,  this  marathon  actually, 

1127
01:10:11,670 --> 01:10:14,670
Speaker 6: I'm  running  with  my  wife.  She  did  9+ 1  also 

1128
01:10:14,670 --> 01:10:18,210
Speaker 6: and  it'll  be  her  first  marathon.  So  it's  a  little 

1129
01:10:18,210 --> 01:10:23,130
Speaker 6: bit  different.  We're  going  through  it  together,  trading  off  our 

1130
01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 6: training  and  long  runs  and  working  out.  We're  both  nurses, 

1131
01:10:28,620 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 6: four  kids,  so  it's  more  of  a  balancing  act  than 

1132
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 6: it  was  maybe  10  years  ago.  And  actually,  one  of 

1133
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,769
Speaker 6: our  first  dates,  I  was  living  by  the  reservoir  in 

1134
01:10:40,770 --> 01:10:43,500
Speaker 6: New  York  City  and  I  said, " Oh  hey,  do  you 

1135
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:45,809
Speaker 6: want  to  go  for  a  run?  Are  you  a  runner?" 

1136
01:10:45,810 --> 01:10:48,330
Speaker 6: And  she  says, " Oh  yeah,  I'm  a  runner."  So  she 

1137
01:10:48,330 --> 01:10:53,070
Speaker 6: came,  we  ran  around  the  reservoir,  and  she  told  me 

1138
01:10:53,130 --> 01:10:55,470
Speaker 6: months  later  that  that  was  the  first  time  she  ever 

1139
01:10:55,470 --> 01:10:59,460
Speaker 6: ran,  that  she  told  me  she  was  a  runner  just to 

1140
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,750
Speaker 6: come  because  she  wanted  to  see  me.
 But  now  we're 

1141
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 6: full  circle  and  we're  both  members  of  New  York  Road 

1142
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:11,850
Speaker 6: Runner  and  running  her  first  marathon.  So  yeah,  it's  great. 

1143
01:11:12,420 --> 01:11:16,950
Speaker 6: Starting  out,  COVID  was  kind  of  a  crazy  time  for 

1144
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:21,750
Speaker 6: healthcare,  but  again,  I  had  my  wife  through  it  and 

1145
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:27,180
Speaker 6: we  both  experienced  that.  So  now  that  everybody's  back  running 

1146
01:11:27,180 --> 01:11:31,350
Speaker 6: in  person,  looking  forward  to  running in  2025.

1147
01:11:32,430 --> 01:11:36,210
Speaker 5: Sounds  awesome.  Well,  thank  you  for  your  leadership  with the  youth 

1148
01:11:36,210 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 5: and  then  also  with  your  family,  but  also  that  early 

1149
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,210
Speaker 5: stage  watching  your  dad  run  and  kind  of  planted  the 

1150
01:11:42,210 --> 01:11:44,370
Speaker 5: seed  and  you  have  passed  on  to  many  other  people. 

1151
01:11:44,370 --> 01:11:48,210
Speaker 5: So  looking  forward  to  your  results  for  the  2025 NYC  Half. 

1152
01:11:48,210 --> 01:11:50,790
Speaker 5: So  keep  up  the  great  work  and  thanks  for  being 

1153
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:51,150
Speaker 5: with  us.

1154
01:11:51,660 --> 01:11:52,979
Speaker 6: All  right,  thank  you.  Appreciate  it.

1155
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:55,770
Speaker 3: Thank  you  so  much  for  joining  us,  Evan,  and  for 

1156
01:11:55,770 --> 01:11:58,530
Speaker 3: being  a  member  of  New  York  Road  Runners.  Now  it's 

1157
01:11:58,530 --> 01:12:00,330
Speaker 3: time  for  today's  Med  Minute.

1158
01:12:00,780 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 5: Three  weeks  before  the  United  Airline  NYC  Half,  you  will 

1159
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,330
Speaker 5: be  tapering  your  mileage  to  allow  your  body  to  recover 

1160
01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:13,050
Speaker 5: and  prepare  for  race  days.  This  doesn't  mean  slacking  off 

1161
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:17,429
Speaker 5: though.  Your  workout  should  still  include  some  race  pace  efforts 

1162
01:12:17,580 --> 01:12:20,520
Speaker 5: to  remind  your  body  that  what  it  feels  like  to 

1163
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,630
Speaker 5: push  in  that  intensity.  Focus  on  quality  instead  of  quantity. 

1164
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,950
Speaker 5: Keep  your  runs  sharp  and  purposeful,  but  reduce  the  overall 

1165
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 5: value.  Keep  mentally  sharp.  Visualize  race  day  and  go  over 

1166
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,269
Speaker 5: your  pacing  strategy.  Three  weeks  out,  it  is  time  to 

1167
01:12:36,300 --> 01:12:39,030
Speaker 5: just  say, " Hey,  I  got  this."  This  is  where  the 

1168
01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:41,700
Speaker 5: tapering  is  going  to  start.  Don't  push  the  pace  too 

1169
01:12:41,700 --> 01:12:44,189
Speaker 5: much  but  be  able  to  just  say, " Hey,  I  am 

1170
01:12:44,189 --> 01:12:47,370
Speaker 5: almost  there."  And  visualization  is  important  to  be  able  to 

1171
01:12:47,370 --> 01:12:50,490
Speaker 5: just  see  what  your  next  race is. In  this  case,  the  United 

1172
01:12:50,490 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 5: Airline  New  York  City  Half  Marathon.

1173
01:12:52,650 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 3: All  right,  that  does  it  for  a  great  episode  of 

1174
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: Set  the  Pace.  We  want  to  thank  our  guests,  the 

1175
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,340
Speaker 3: great  Sharon  Lokedi,  and  New  York  Road  Runners  member,  Evan 

1176
01:13:02,340 --> 01:13:06,030
Speaker 3: McKiernan.  If you  like  this  episode,  and  who  wouldn't,  please  make 

1177
01:13:06,030 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: sure  you  go  ahead  and  rate,  subscribe,  leave  a  comment 

1178
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,850
Speaker 3: on  the  show  notes.  So  we'll  answer  your  questions  if 

1179
01:13:11,850 --> 01:13:14,610
Speaker 3: you  have  one  for  me  or for  Becs  wherever  you  listen 

1180
01:13:14,610 --> 01:13:17,550
Speaker 3: to  your  podcast.  Great  to  have  you  with  us.  Enjoy 

1181
01:13:17,550 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 3: the  miles.  Wish  me  luck  in  Tokyo.  Again,  you  can 

1182
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,820
Speaker 3: donate  to  my  run  on  our  page  or  Team  for 

1183
01:13:23,820 --> 01:13:25,950
Speaker 3: Kids  page.  Just  look  in  the  show  notes,  would  love 

1184
01:13:25,950 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: to  have  your  support.  Wish  me  luck.  I'll  see you  on 

1185
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,570
Speaker 3: the  other  side  of  Tokyo.  Enjoy  the  miles.