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Today we're reminded of the power 0:00:43.740 --> 0:00:48.600 of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:49.170 your mark. 0:00:51.300 --> 0:00:54.840 The first woman to finish for the second straight year 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.470 here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling 0:00:58.470 --> 0:01:03.002 Miki Gorman, and why not? 2: 29:30, the time for (inaudible) . 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.880 Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:06.630 to the line. 0:01:06.780 --> 0:01:10.319 Pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA he so 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:19.530 proudly wears across his chest. A great day for Matt Jablonski. 0:01:19.620 --> 0:01:22.590 Hey everybody, welcome to the Set the Pace Podcast. I'm Olympian, 0:01:22.590 --> 0:01:25.290 Carrie Tollefson, and a member of the broadcast team here 0:01:25.290 --> 0:01:28.770 again in the city for the United Airlines NYC Half. 0:01:28.890 --> 0:01:31.980 And I am really excited to bring you our race 0:01:31.980 --> 0:01:35.700 day champions. I'm bringing on four of our champions, Sharon 0:01:35.730 --> 0:01:40.950 Lokedi, Abel Kipchumba, Manuela Schär, and Geert Schipper. I know I 0:01:40.950 --> 0:01:42.990 didn't say that right. It's GB, he told me I 0:01:42.990 --> 0:01:45.480 could say GB. So here we go. Let's get it 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.490 underway. All right, I'm here with the winner of the 0:01:47.490 --> 0:01:49.950 men's wheelchair for the second year in a row. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:50.041 Yeah. 0:01:50.041 --> 0:01:50.042 Geert. 0:01:50.041 --> 0:01:50.043 Geert. 0:01:50.042 --> 0:01:50.371 Geert Schippert. We were saying it Gert. 0:01:50.371 --> 0:01:52.002 Gert (inaudible) . 0:01:52.002 --> 0:01:53.550 I want to say Schippert because of Geert. So Geert Schipper. 0:01:54.540 --> 0:02:04.860 Geert Schipper, but whatever the way you pronounce it, I 0:02:04.860 --> 0:02:05.221 think it's okay. 0:02:05.221 --> 0:02:08.040 Do you know what you said though today in the post- race interview 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:09.331 was people can just call you GB. 0:02:09.331 --> 0:02:10.170 Yeah. 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.091 So where does GB come from? 0:02:12.091 --> 0:02:17.940 Gerard Bastiaan, that's my (foreign language) . What is it? 0:02:18.450 --> 0:02:18.750 Your middle name? 0:02:18.750 --> 0:02:20.190 Middle name, yeah. 0:02:20.490 --> 0:02:24.330 So in America here where most of our listeners are, 0:02:24.660 --> 0:02:27.240 well, we have them international, but most here, do you 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.560 want to become GB? Because you are winning all these 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.100 major races over here? Would you rather have us figure 0:02:35.100 --> 0:02:37.080 out how to say your name right or call you 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:37.650 GB 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.460 GB is fine to me, but don't see me as 0:02:41.460 --> 0:02:45.269 a big winner or just leave me in the shadow. 0:02:47.220 --> 0:02:50.760 I don't like media stuff. I just do what I 0:02:51.030 --> 0:02:54.570 do, what I like to do, and that's sport moving 0:02:54.570 --> 0:02:57.810 from one place to the other one and improve myself 0:02:57.810 --> 0:03:02.220 every race or every training. That's the reason I try 0:03:02.850 --> 0:03:05.850 to compete in competitions. And the last couple of years 0:03:05.850 --> 0:03:08.610 I had to compete with all the best guys of 0:03:08.610 --> 0:03:11.460 the world to make sure that I can still improve 0:03:11.460 --> 0:03:15.209 myself a little bit. So that's the reason I race, 0:03:15.389 --> 0:03:18.900 not especially for winning. Winning of course gives a way 0:03:18.900 --> 0:03:21.750 better feeling than become second, third, or fourth, like the 0:03:21.750 --> 0:03:28.230 Paralympics in Tokyo. But improving myself, that's for me more important. 0:03:28.770 --> 0:03:30.540 Yeah. Today you said you didn't think you were going 0:03:30.540 --> 0:03:32.130 to be the one to break the tape. 0:03:32.669 --> 0:03:39.180 No, no. Actually, yesterday I was doing a training ride with 0:03:39.180 --> 0:03:43.200 Evan Correll and somewhere in the park, you've got some 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.840 hills and he was pushing up the hill like I 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.560 was standing still and I was like, " Damn." And I don't know tomorrow, you've got 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.190 quite a lot of hills, or at least up and 0:03:53.190 --> 0:03:59.340 downs. So, I was pretty afraid. And also the first of the 300 meters from the 0:04:00.090 --> 0:04:04.260 start, you start going up already and he was pushing 0:04:04.260 --> 0:04:07.080 away. I was like, " Uh- oh. Oh boy." And then in the 0:04:07.110 --> 0:04:10.710 downhill I was slightly faster, and then the second uphill, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.360 he was still on my tail, but I was still 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.270 afraid. And he's a young guy and what I really 0:04:18.270 --> 0:04:22.680 hope that he will pass me, hopefully I can start 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.410 next year, but that he will pass me next year 0:04:25.410 --> 0:04:28.620 or at least the year thereafter. And not only him, 0:04:28.740 --> 0:04:30.900 but also way more younger guys. 0:04:30.930 --> 0:04:31.650 Yeah, you want. 0:04:31.650 --> 0:04:32.339 That's what I want. 0:04:32.339 --> 0:04:35.220 And you want more people pushing you to the line. 0:04:36.510 --> 0:04:40.350 The more competitive everybody is, the more fun the competition 0:04:40.350 --> 0:04:43.229 is. But those guys are young and they have to 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.500 learn, or maybe not learn but need a bit- 0:04:46.500 --> 0:04:49.020 More experience. 0:04:49.020 --> 0:04:49.770 ... race- 0:04:49.770 --> 0:04:50.279 And race, yeah. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:57.539 ... endurance. And I think the next coming years I can do a step 0:04:57.540 --> 0:05:01.440 back or maybe quit in total and hopefully they take 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:05.070 over what I am doing at the moment. 0:05:05.220 --> 0:05:07.680 So, okay, today you won and you're talking about Evan 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:08.880 who is 21? 0:05:09.330 --> 0:05:10.409 I have no clue, but he's young- 0:05:10.410 --> 0:05:12.029 He's one of the youngest, I think he's 21. I 0:05:12.029 --> 0:05:13.620 think we had a 19- year- old in the wheelchair 0:05:13.620 --> 0:05:19.260 division. But Evan Correll is 21. You're fairly new. I 0:05:19.260 --> 0:05:21.180 mean we know... Well, a lot of us know your 0:05:21.180 --> 0:05:23.880 background in triathlon. So you are obviously on the roads 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.990 doing some racing, but you're fairly new to this half- 0:05:27.990 --> 0:05:30.120 marathon, marathon distance, correct? 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:30.450 Yep, that's correct. 0:05:30.451 --> 0:05:36.539 Yeah. So when you speak to a runner like me, when you 0:05:36.540 --> 0:05:39.240 come to the sport later, you're a little bit more 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.390 fresh, you don't have as much wear and tear. Is 0:05:42.390 --> 0:05:45.060 that the same for you? I mean why are you giving it, not giving 0:05:45.060 --> 0:05:46.860 it to Evan, but you're saying like, you want him 0:05:46.860 --> 0:05:48.750 to catch you, you're still pretty new in here. 0:05:49.890 --> 0:05:57.480 Yeah, maybe in my heart, maybe the biggest winner, I 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.420 just do what I like to do as fast as 0:06:00.510 --> 0:06:06.870 I can. And yeah, I'm new in the sport, but 0:06:06.930 --> 0:06:09.779 when you look through my history before I had my 0:06:09.779 --> 0:06:13.980 accident and then shortly after my accident, the way I 0:06:13.980 --> 0:06:18.270 can perform in sport, we did some tests, and my 0:06:18.270 --> 0:06:23.820 genes are already really good to do endurance competitions and 0:06:23.820 --> 0:06:28.800 trainings like this. And further, the way how you train 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:33.870 is important and maybe the variation in the three disciplines 0:06:33.870 --> 0:06:36.510 I do in triathlon gives me also a bit more 0:06:36.510 --> 0:06:43.470 endurance for doing wheelchair racing. But it is still painful in my 0:06:43.470 --> 0:06:47.219 back, in my legs, in my... It seems that I race 0:06:47.220 --> 0:06:51.960 like pain- free or that it's really easy, it isn't. Not 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.599 for me, not for (inaudible) , not for even Evan. 0:06:54.660 --> 0:06:56.010 It's always painful. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.520 Yeah, there's always something, right? If it's not, for the runners, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.029 their feet, their back, their glutes, whatever, it's your guys' 0:07:03.029 --> 0:07:05.190 shoulders or your abs like you said, or your back- 0:07:05.250 --> 0:07:07.200 Most of the times, it's not your shoulders or your arm, it's 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.120 most of the time the pain in your back or your legs or 0:07:11.490 --> 0:07:14.010 it sounds crazy, but not the joints you used as 0:07:14.010 --> 0:07:19.140 much you think during the run, but maybe the joints 0:07:19.140 --> 0:07:21.750 and the muscles, you won't use that much. 0:07:21.750 --> 0:07:22.170 Sure. 0:07:22.260 --> 0:07:22.440 Yeah. 0:07:22.530 --> 0:07:25.170 Sure. Tell me a little bit, just walk us back 0:07:25.170 --> 0:07:28.920 to your injury. Tell me how you got injured again. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:34.710 In 2004, I was flying my own single engine airplane for 0:07:34.710 --> 0:07:39.150 the first time, that typical airplane. And I was approaching 0:07:39.570 --> 0:07:42.900 and I didn't have enough attention on my approaching speed, 0:07:42.990 --> 0:07:49.860 so I flew slightly slow already, and then a particular 0:07:49.860 --> 0:07:53.790 moment too slow, I stalled, made a little dive and 0:07:53.790 --> 0:07:56.460 then right turn, and instead of making my landing straight 0:07:56.460 --> 0:07:58.980 ahead in front of me due to the turn, I 0:07:58.980 --> 0:08:02.520 made a crash landing into the field just beside the 0:08:02.820 --> 0:08:07.980 little airfield in France, broke my back and yeah, that's 0:08:07.980 --> 0:08:11.309 pretty much it. Then you think, okay, I've got a 0:08:11.310 --> 0:08:16.890 lot of pain in my back, just help me out the 0:08:16.890 --> 0:08:23.190 rest of my airplane. There was nothing left actually. And 0:08:23.190 --> 0:08:27.480 then I walk away, but I noticed my foot was 0:08:27.510 --> 0:08:30.660 kind of in a rear position and my knee was 0:08:30.660 --> 0:08:32.970 not pointing to my face, but pointing to my other 0:08:32.970 --> 0:08:35.910 knee. I was like, " Oh, that's not good. Maybe it's 0:08:35.910 --> 0:08:38.340 broken." But I didn't have pain in my legs. I 0:08:38.340 --> 0:08:43.650 only had an awful pain in my back. So after one 0:08:43.650 --> 0:08:46.230 hour, the first ambulance was there, they had some troubles 0:08:46.230 --> 0:08:50.250 to find it, and I was in a field which not easy to 0:08:50.250 --> 0:08:57.480 reach. And they told me, " Okay, just lay still and 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.480 wait for another ambulance." And finally they put me on 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.500 a stretcher, drove me out of the field to the 0:09:04.500 --> 0:09:09.059 hospital, and flew me to another hospital. And then they told me 0:09:09.059 --> 0:09:11.400 the next morning after my operation, " Okay, you never can 0:09:11.460 --> 0:09:17.550 walk again, you broke your back. And you've got some 0:09:17.550 --> 0:09:20.849 movement back in your legs in the nearby future, you'll 0:09:21.179 --> 0:09:24.780 be lucky, but walking and standing and biking, the stuff 0:09:24.780 --> 0:09:27.630 you've done before, you will sit in a wheelchair for the 0:09:27.630 --> 0:09:31.470 rest of your life." And that came in pretty hard. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:37.590 But after six days in France and a few days 0:09:37.590 --> 0:09:42.510 in the Netherlands, all the drugs I get for making 0:09:42.510 --> 0:09:48.330 the pain kind of doable, I didn't need it so 0:09:48.330 --> 0:09:52.620 much. So my girlfriend told me, " There will be a 0:09:52.620 --> 0:09:56.970 good life with you with a chair as well." And 0:09:56.970 --> 0:09:57.929 we found a good life. 0:09:57.929 --> 0:09:59.130 I guess so. 0:09:59.130 --> 0:10:02.429 We found an awesome life. There were doors closed due to 0:10:02.429 --> 0:10:05.130 my accident, but there were so many doors get open 0:10:05.130 --> 0:10:08.130 again. And one of the doors is I found in sport. 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.699 Yeah. Sport before the accident looked like what? 0:10:12.540 --> 0:10:16.470 It was just regular, whatever, you know what I mean? 0:10:16.470 --> 0:10:16.710 Yeah. 0:10:17.250 --> 0:10:20.160 On a bike, I was ice skating, I did some 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:20.881 swimming, I did some running- 0:10:20.881 --> 0:10:21.751 Okay. Okay. Just everything. 0:10:21.751 --> 0:10:26.339 ... inline skating. Just after my job as a carpenter 0:10:26.340 --> 0:10:32.520 at that time, just do some sportive things, but never 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.929 ever with the idea to do it in bigger or 0:10:37.500 --> 0:10:38.579 bigger competitions. 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.219 So life has changed in so many different ways. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.961 Yes. Yeah. 0:10:42.961 --> 0:10:42.962 And- 0:10:42.962 --> 0:10:44.190 And there is always light. 0:10:44.460 --> 0:10:47.190 Yeah, there is always light. And it's really good for you to 0:10:47.190 --> 0:10:49.440 remind us because you've been through a lot, but we're 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.470 so thankful that you have used that athletic background and 0:10:52.470 --> 0:10:55.500 now have become one of the world's best wheelchair athletes 0:10:55.500 --> 0:10:56.220 and triathletes. 0:10:56.550 --> 0:10:59.040 For you, it's maybe that I'm one of the best, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:10:59.969 but I don't feel like one. 0:10:59.969 --> 0:11:00.569 Well you are. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.150 I'm just a guy. Believe me. 0:11:03.150 --> 0:11:05.969 Well, you're just a guy, but I think what's really cool is 0:11:05.970 --> 0:11:07.800 that you brought one of your three girls, one of 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:08.580 your three daughters. 0:11:08.580 --> 0:11:08.670 Yes. 0:11:08.700 --> 0:11:10.890 Was your girlfriend at the time when you had your accident- 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:11.160 Yes. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:12.240 ... is she now your wife? 0:11:12.300 --> 0:11:12.510 Yep. 0:11:12.630 --> 0:11:15.569 Oh my goodness. You guys, what a love story. So 0:11:15.570 --> 0:11:17.939 you have one daughter here who's 12, you said in 0:11:17.940 --> 0:11:20.280 quotation marks, she's " sick" from school. 0:11:20.340 --> 0:11:20.460 Yes. 0:11:21.270 --> 0:11:23.370 She took a couple of days off from school. So 0:11:23.550 --> 0:11:25.530 tell us a little bit about bringing her over. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.860 She's 12. You've got a girl from 12, they already a 0:11:31.860 --> 0:11:35.940 woman, she is kind of in between. Moments, she's still a kid 0:11:36.450 --> 0:11:39.570 and the other moments, she's kind of a young adult 0:11:39.780 --> 0:11:45.390 and she act like it, but it is fun to 0:11:45.390 --> 0:11:50.309 walk with her here. Yesterday, we went into the park 0:11:50.340 --> 0:11:53.309 and we were feeding the squirrels. And she's sitting on 0:11:53.309 --> 0:11:55.920 her knees and hold her hand with some peanuts and 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.910 the squirrels come there and it's so adorable to watch, 0:12:00.570 --> 0:12:04.170 see my girl doing that in her pink jacket. And 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:09.600 we walk over the Times Square and then she's just- 0:12:10.050 --> 0:12:10.290 In awe. 0:12:10.290 --> 0:12:15.150 ... watching and seeing and noticed everything what I usually 0:12:15.210 --> 0:12:19.110 see as well. It is fun. It is so much fun. 0:12:20.910 --> 0:12:22.559 She came in here. Can I ask her a question? 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:23.250 Oh, hi. Yeah, of course you can ask a question. 0:12:27.030 --> 0:12:31.890 What was it like to see Dad win today? Was 0:12:31.890 --> 0:12:33.540 it pretty cool? Did you get to see him in 0:12:33.540 --> 0:12:34.260 Central Park? 0:12:34.620 --> 0:12:35.160 Yeah. 0:12:36.420 --> 0:12:36.420 What is- 0:12:36.420 --> 0:12:36.421 You're a little shot. 0:12:36.421 --> 0:12:42.030 That's okay. What was New York, what is the big city like? 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.900 (foreign language) . Is it nice? 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:47.459 It was good. 0:12:47.459 --> 0:12:47.460 yeah, 0:12:47.460 --> 0:12:48.241 It was fun, isn't it? 0:12:48.241 --> 0:12:51.929 And are you the oldest of the three girls? 0:12:52.230 --> 0:12:53.309 No, I'm the middle. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.069 You're the middle child. Oh. So are you the first 0:12:56.070 --> 0:12:57.809 one to come to New York City with your dad? 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.290 No, here's my mother and then my older sister and 0:13:01.290 --> 0:13:02.309 now me. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:07.260 Oh, okay. Well congratulations and thanks for letting dad do 0:13:07.260 --> 0:13:08.850 his thing. Now, you guys get to go out and 0:13:08.850 --> 0:13:09.480 have some fun. 0:13:10.770 --> 0:13:11.010 Thanks. 0:13:11.100 --> 0:13:13.170 Well, tell me a little bit more about your spring. 0:13:13.230 --> 0:13:14.400 What do you have going on now after this? 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.520 I've got a few days off. This afternoon, we fly 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.000 back to the Netherlands. So tomorrow early in the morning 0:13:24.030 --> 0:13:28.740 we arrive, I make a short sleep. Maybe in the 0:13:28.740 --> 0:13:32.910 afternoon, I go to the pool to get myself- 0:13:34.050 --> 0:13:35.130 Loosened up a little bit. 0:13:35.130 --> 0:13:41.370 Yes. Not only for loosen up, just make sure you won't do nothing. 0:13:41.370 --> 0:13:41.820 Yeah. 0:13:42.390 --> 0:13:45.210 And when you do nothing, you get really tired. Just 0:13:45.540 --> 0:13:49.829 take a little exercise to make sure you've done something 0:13:49.830 --> 0:13:52.319 on a day. So I probably go to the pool and 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:56.010 maybe go on my bike for an hour or two, 0:13:57.270 --> 0:14:00.059 but only an easy spin and an easy swim, no 0:14:00.059 --> 0:14:05.730 rush. Then in three weeks, I go to Paris for 0:14:05.730 --> 0:14:10.290 the Paris Marathon. Thereafter, I go home for a few 0:14:10.290 --> 0:14:12.929 days, then I fly to Boston for the Boston Marathon, 0:14:13.770 --> 0:14:16.740 go home for two days, then back to London for 0:14:16.740 --> 0:14:23.820 the London marathon, two weeks off. Training as fast and as good 0:14:23.820 --> 0:14:27.270 as I can for the first triathlon competition in Japan. 0:14:28.170 --> 0:14:31.890 And then there's a few more triathlon competitions, one in 0:14:31.890 --> 0:14:35.040 Italy and one in France. And in the meantime, I'm 0:14:35.100 --> 0:14:38.250 also moving from one place to another place. So- 0:14:38.250 --> 0:14:40.290 Like one house to another house? Oh, man. 0:14:40.350 --> 0:14:43.830 No, it's not a house. It's more like a farm. 0:14:43.890 --> 0:14:44.970 Okay. Oh, you've got a lot going on. 0:14:46.590 --> 0:14:50.520 I've got too much equipment to move. It won't fit 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.380 in one truck. I think I need five. 0:14:53.730 --> 0:14:55.980 Well, I'm glad that you won some money today. Maybe 0:14:55.980 --> 0:14:57.120 you can hire some help. 0:14:58.890 --> 0:15:00.870 That definitely helps. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:01.771 Yeah. Well congratulations- 0:15:01.771 --> 0:15:01.772 Thank you so much. 0:15:01.772 --> 0:15:06.720 ... on such an awesome race. 49:53 is what you ran 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.530 today and two- time winner of the United Airlines NYC Half. 0:15:10.530 --> 0:15:12.630 Yes. Maybe it comes a third time then. 0:15:12.630 --> 0:15:13.290 There you go. 0:15:13.290 --> 0:15:14.760 And then it'll be time to quit. 0:15:15.900 --> 0:15:16.830 No, I don't think so. We don't want you to do that yet. 0:15:17.100 --> 0:15:18.240 After three times it's time. 0:15:18.990 --> 0:15:20.521 Well, we'll see you in Boston for sure. Congratulations. 0:15:20.521 --> 0:15:21.990 Yes, thank you very much. 0:15:22.290 --> 0:15:26.190 Sitting across the table from Manuela Schär, our four- time 0:15:26.550 --> 0:15:31.890 United NYC Half Marathon champion. I mean that's pretty crazy. 0:15:31.890 --> 0:15:33.600 Four times you've won this race before. 0:15:33.810 --> 0:15:37.440 Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean it's always great to race 0:15:37.470 --> 0:15:39.780 in New York and then to even win in New 0:15:39.780 --> 0:15:42.750 York, it's even better. So I'm really happy. Yeah. 0:15:42.870 --> 0:15:45.150 So today was different. I want to talk about that, 0:15:45.150 --> 0:15:47.490 because you got off the line, and we've seen you 0:15:47.490 --> 0:15:50.280 get off the line really fast in other races, but 0:15:50.580 --> 0:15:53.520 today you got off the line and really you were 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:54.960 on your own for most of the race. 0:15:55.860 --> 0:16:01.110 Yeah, it was not easy conditions for us because usually 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:06.090 we race with different settings when it's dry or when 0:16:06.090 --> 0:16:10.410 it's raining. And today, it was so foggy, so we had to 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:14.250 decide if you want to go with the dry setup 0:16:14.250 --> 0:16:16.470 or if you want to go with the rain setup. 0:16:16.470 --> 0:16:20.670 And I decided to go with my gloves I would 0:16:20.670 --> 0:16:23.280 use in rain. So I think that made the difference. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.940 So remind me, when you wear gloves, the wheelchair athletes, 0:16:28.380 --> 0:16:30.600 I was stumbling on the word in the broadcast too, 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.930 is sandpaper that you have or some kind of grit 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:34.740 on the glove? 0:16:34.950 --> 0:16:38.760 Yeah. So usually, in dry conditions we use gloves with 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.760 like a rubber and then our push rim has a 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.790 rubber too. So rubber on rubber works really well when 0:16:44.790 --> 0:16:48.120 it's dry, but then when it's wet, it's slippery and 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.120 so you have to find something that gives you back 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.270 that grip. And some people use sandpaper on their gloves, 0:16:54.270 --> 0:16:56.730 some people use some kind of like... 0:16:57.630 --> 0:16:59.190 Like a sticky? 0:16:59.190 --> 0:17:06.300 Yeah. And then some people use like a handball cluster. 0:17:07.290 --> 0:17:11.670 So they're all different options you have. So you have 0:17:11.670 --> 0:17:13.260 to find the right thing for you. 0:17:13.470 --> 0:17:15.389 It was really interesting though, because when we were walking 0:17:15.390 --> 0:17:17.580 there was a little bit of a slip. So I 0:17:17.580 --> 0:17:19.650 love that you mentioned that in the post- race interview 0:17:19.650 --> 0:17:24.240 that you really went with the wet weather. And as 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.359 a runner, we think about that with our shoes, but 0:17:27.510 --> 0:17:29.580 for us that don't know what it's like to be 0:17:29.580 --> 0:17:32.310 a wheelchair athlete, I love that you give that insight. 0:17:32.790 --> 0:17:35.550 Yeah. That's always the biggest challenge because sometimes you don't 0:17:35.550 --> 0:17:39.300 have enough time to make the decision and then you 0:17:39.300 --> 0:17:41.609 don't know what to bring to the start line. And 0:17:41.609 --> 0:17:44.070 if you still have enough time to change if it 0:17:44.070 --> 0:17:49.109 doesn't work and sometimes you just realize it a few 0:17:49.109 --> 0:17:51.270 miles into the race if you made the right call 0:17:51.270 --> 0:17:51.359 or not. 0:17:51.360 --> 0:17:53.340 Yeah, because there's no changing mid- race. 0:17:53.340 --> 0:17:57.359 Yes. No. I mean I brought my other gloves, but that would 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.180 mean I would have to stop and then sit out 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.240 my racing chair and then change my gloves. I would 0:18:03.300 --> 0:18:08.070 rather not do that, but I mean if it wouldn't 0:18:08.070 --> 0:18:11.790 work, I would still have this option to change. 0:18:11.850 --> 0:18:17.040 Yeah. Well today, you won big. You ran 54: 09. I 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.990 want to talk a little bit, you're getting ready for 0:18:19.020 --> 0:18:22.530 not just Boston, but London, the wheelchair athletes do back 0:18:22.530 --> 0:18:24.540 to back to back to back. You're amazing that way. 0:18:24.660 --> 0:18:27.510 And even like, I get it, it's different, right? There's 0:18:27.510 --> 0:18:29.400 not as much pounding, but there's still wear and tear 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.619 on your body in different ways, but also the travel- 0:18:31.770 --> 0:18:31.771 Exactly. 0:18:31.771 --> 0:18:33.480 ... is wild with you guys. 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.840 Yeah. And to be honest, the older I get, the 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.260 more I realize it's not easy to do all this 0:18:40.260 --> 0:18:45.060 time difference and different food and then other hotel and 0:18:45.090 --> 0:18:48.720 the traveling with all your, that big box with the 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.150 racing chair and then you have a separate box for 0:18:51.150 --> 0:18:54.420 your wheels and then maybe you bring a spare wheel 0:18:54.420 --> 0:18:57.060 and then you have your luggage. So it's always- 0:18:57.900 --> 0:18:58.740 It's challenging. 0:18:58.740 --> 0:18:59.551 It's challenging. Yeah. 0:18:59.551 --> 0:19:03.540 Yeah. So last year seemed like there were some challenges 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.450 and maybe that's just me being the broadcaster that I 0:19:06.450 --> 0:19:09.959 am and looking on paper that Manuela didn't win the 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.770 road races that we've seen in the past. And as 0:19:13.770 --> 0:19:15.930 an athlete to athlete, like I get it, we have 0:19:15.930 --> 0:19:18.119 ups and down years, but can you explain that to 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.280 me? Was it a down year? Was it a great 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.399 year? You won the Paralympic 800, you got silver in the 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.640 400. I mean it's an amazing year, but yet some 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.700 of your longer distances, we didn't see a number one 0:19:29.700 --> 0:19:31.679 next to. Tell me a little bit about that. And 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:32.970 maybe I am totally wrong. 0:19:33.390 --> 0:19:36.630 No, you're not. I mean I'm so happy that I 0:19:36.660 --> 0:19:39.629 was able to win these two medals because if not, 0:19:40.290 --> 0:19:43.140 I would have been so frustrated with my Paralympic Games. 0:19:44.850 --> 0:19:49.050 For sure, the marathon did not go well. I'm still 0:19:49.050 --> 0:19:53.790 struggling a little bit with that because, yeah, the marathon 0:19:53.790 --> 0:19:57.570 was supposed to be my distance, it's my favorite race. 0:19:58.890 --> 0:20:01.679 But yeah, I had some really up and downs last 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:06.419 year and I had some big changes also. So, yeah, 0:20:06.660 --> 0:20:13.020 it's hard to put it all in one, it's hard 0:20:13.020 --> 0:20:16.139 to find one reason why this happened. 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:17.580 And that's why we do it, right? 0:20:17.730 --> 0:20:17.731 Yeah, exactly. 0:20:17.731 --> 0:20:20.071 We have to figure out how to be better each time we toe the line. 0:20:20.071 --> 0:20:25.230 Yeah. And then also some athletes just improved so much. Like, 0:20:25.230 --> 0:20:29.100 Catherine, she's insane, it's crazy- 0:20:29.100 --> 0:20:29.521 Catherine Debrunner. 0:20:29.910 --> 0:20:33.330 Yeah. And then Susannah is doing really, really well and 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.659 I think it's a really exciting time for the women's 0:20:36.660 --> 0:20:40.350 field and I'm so excited to see that and to 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.800 still be part of it and to... I don't know, 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:49.409 it's like we're all in this together and it's always 0:20:49.830 --> 0:20:54.330 fun to watch everybody race and break records and yeah, 0:20:54.330 --> 0:20:56.400 still being part of it is amazing. 0:20:56.430 --> 0:20:58.800 I love that, the camaraderie that, well the runners, but 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:02.220 also the wheelers have, it's just something really special. Getting 0:21:02.220 --> 0:21:05.520 ready now for some fall or some spring marathons. We're 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.280