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Today we're reminded of the power 11 00:00:43,740 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,170 Speaker 2: your mark. 13 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: The first woman to finish for the second straight year 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,470 Speaker 3: here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling 15 00:00:58,470 --> 00:01:03,002 Speaker 3: Miki Gorman, and why not? 2: 29:30, the time for (inaudible) . 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:06,630 Speaker 4: to the line. 18 00:01:06,780 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 5: Pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA he so 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:19,530 Speaker 5: proudly wears across his chest. A great day for Matt Jablonski. 20 00:01:19,620 --> 00:01:22,590 Carrie Tollefson: Hey everybody, welcome to the Set the Pace Podcast. I'm Olympian, 21 00:01:22,590 --> 00:01:25,290 Carrie Tollefson: Carrie Tollefson, and a member of the broadcast team here 22 00:01:25,290 --> 00:01:28,770 Carrie Tollefson: again in the city for the United Airlines NYC Half. 23 00:01:28,890 --> 00:01:31,980 Carrie Tollefson: And I am really excited to bring you our race 24 00:01:31,980 --> 00:01:35,700 Carrie Tollefson: day champions. I'm bringing on four of our champions, Sharon 25 00:01:35,730 --> 00:01:40,950 Carrie Tollefson: Lokedi, Abel Kipchumba, Manuela Schär, and Geert Schipper. I know I 26 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:42,990 Carrie Tollefson: didn't say that right. It's GB, he told me I 27 00:01:42,990 --> 00:01:45,480 Carrie Tollefson: could say GB. So here we go. Let's get it 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,490 Carrie Tollefson: underway. All right, I'm here with the winner of the 29 00:01:47,490 --> 00:01:49,950 Carrie Tollefson: men's wheelchair for the second year in a row. 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:50,041 Geert Schipper: Yeah. 31 00:01:50,041 --> 00:01:50,042 Carrie Tollefson: Geert. 32 00:01:50,041 --> 00:01:50,043 Geert Schipper: Geert. 33 00:01:50,042 --> 00:01:50,371 Carrie Tollefson: Geert Schippert. We were saying it Gert. 34 00:01:50,371 --> 00:01:52,002 Geert Schipper: Gert (inaudible) . 35 00:01:52,002 --> 00:01:53,550 Carrie Tollefson: I want to say Schippert because of Geert. So Geert Schipper. 36 00:01:54,540 --> 00:02:04,860 Geert Schipper: Geert Schipper, but whatever the way you pronounce it, I 37 00:02:04,860 --> 00:02:05,221 Geert Schipper: think it's okay. 38 00:02:05,221 --> 00:02:08,040 Carrie Tollefson: Do you know what you said though today in the post- race interview 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,331 Carrie Tollefson: was people can just call you GB. 40 00:02:09,331 --> 00:02:10,170 Geert Schipper: Yeah. 41 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,091 Carrie Tollefson: So where does GB come from? 42 00:02:12,091 --> 00:02:17,940 Geert Schipper: Gerard Bastiaan, that's my (foreign language) . What is it? 43 00:02:18,450 --> 00:02:18,750 Carrie Tollefson: Your middle name? 44 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:20,190 Geert Schipper: Middle name, yeah. 45 00:02:20,490 --> 00:02:24,330 Carrie Tollefson: So in America here where most of our listeners are, 46 00:02:24,660 --> 00:02:27,240 Carrie Tollefson: well, we have them international, but most here, do you 47 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,560 Carrie Tollefson: want to become GB? Because you are winning all these 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,100 Carrie Tollefson: major races over here? Would you rather have us figure 49 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:37,080 Carrie Tollefson: out how to say your name right or call you 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:37,650 Carrie Tollefson: GB 51 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,460 Geert Schipper: GB is fine to me, but don't see me as 52 00:02:41,460 --> 00:02:45,269 Geert Schipper: a big winner or just leave me in the shadow. 53 00:02:47,220 --> 00:02:50,760 Geert Schipper: I don't like media stuff. I just do what I 54 00:02:51,030 --> 00:02:54,570 Geert Schipper: do, what I like to do, and that's sport moving 55 00:02:54,570 --> 00:02:57,810 Geert Schipper: from one place to the other one and improve myself 56 00:02:57,810 --> 00:03:02,220 Geert Schipper: every race or every training. That's the reason I try 57 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:05,850 Geert Schipper: to compete in competitions. And the last couple of years 58 00:03:05,850 --> 00:03:08,610 Geert Schipper: I had to compete with all the best guys of 59 00:03:08,610 --> 00:03:11,460 Geert Schipper: the world to make sure that I can still improve 60 00:03:11,460 --> 00:03:15,209 Geert Schipper: myself a little bit. So that's the reason I race, 61 00:03:15,389 --> 00:03:18,900 Geert Schipper: not especially for winning. Winning of course gives a way 62 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:21,750 Geert Schipper: better feeling than become second, third, or fourth, like the 63 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:28,230 Geert Schipper: Paralympics in Tokyo. But improving myself, that's for me more important. 64 00:03:28,770 --> 00:03:30,540 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. Today you said you didn't think you were going 65 00:03:30,540 --> 00:03:32,130 Carrie Tollefson: to be the one to break the tape. 66 00:03:32,669 --> 00:03:39,180 Geert Schipper: No, no. Actually, yesterday I was doing a training ride with 67 00:03:39,180 --> 00:03:43,200 Geert Schipper: Evan Correll and somewhere in the park, you've got some 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,840 Geert Schipper: hills and he was pushing up the hill like I 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Geert Schipper: was standing still and I was like, " Damn." And I don't know tomorrow, you've got 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,190 Geert Schipper: quite a lot of hills, or at least up and 71 00:03:53,190 --> 00:03:59,340 Geert Schipper: downs. So, I was pretty afraid. And also the first of the 300 meters from the 72 00:04:00,090 --> 00:04:04,260 Geert Schipper: start, you start going up already and he was pushing 73 00:04:04,260 --> 00:04:07,080 Geert Schipper: away. I was like, " Uh- oh. Oh boy." And then in the 74 00:04:07,110 --> 00:04:10,710 Geert Schipper: downhill I was slightly faster, and then the second uphill, 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Geert Schipper: he was still on my tail, but I was still 76 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,270 Geert Schipper: afraid. And he's a young guy and what I really 77 00:04:18,270 --> 00:04:22,680 Geert Schipper: hope that he will pass me, hopefully I can start 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,410 Geert Schipper: next year, but that he will pass me next year 79 00:04:25,410 --> 00:04:28,620 Geert Schipper: or at least the year thereafter. And not only him, 80 00:04:28,740 --> 00:04:30,900 Geert Schipper: but also way more younger guys. 81 00:04:30,930 --> 00:04:31,650 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah, you want. 82 00:04:31,650 --> 00:04:32,339 Geert Schipper: That's what I want. 83 00:04:32,339 --> 00:04:35,220 Carrie Tollefson: And you want more people pushing you to the line. 84 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:40,350 Geert Schipper: The more competitive everybody is, the more fun the competition 85 00:04:40,350 --> 00:04:43,229 Geert Schipper: is. But those guys are young and they have to 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,500 Geert Schipper: learn, or maybe not learn but need a bit- 87 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:49,020 Carrie Tollefson: More experience. 88 00:04:49,020 --> 00:04:49,770 Geert Schipper: ... race- 89 00:04:49,770 --> 00:04:50,279 Carrie Tollefson: And race, yeah. 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:57,539 Geert Schipper: ... endurance. And I think the next coming years I can do a step 91 00:04:57,540 --> 00:05:01,440 Geert Schipper: back or maybe quit in total and hopefully they take 92 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,070 Geert Schipper: over what I am doing at the moment. 93 00:05:05,220 --> 00:05:07,680 Carrie Tollefson: So, okay, today you won and you're talking about Evan 94 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,880 Carrie Tollefson: who is 21? 95 00:05:09,330 --> 00:05:10,409 Geert Schipper: I have no clue, but he's young- 96 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:12,029 Carrie Tollefson: He's one of the youngest, I think he's 21. I 97 00:05:12,029 --> 00:05:13,620 Carrie Tollefson: think we had a 19- year- old in the wheelchair 98 00:05:13,620 --> 00:05:19,260 Carrie Tollefson: division. But Evan Correll is 21. You're fairly new. I 99 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:21,180 Carrie Tollefson: mean we know... Well, a lot of us know your 100 00:05:21,180 --> 00:05:23,880 Carrie Tollefson: background in triathlon. So you are obviously on the roads 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,990 Carrie Tollefson: doing some racing, but you're fairly new to this half- 102 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:30,120 Carrie Tollefson: marathon, marathon distance, correct? 103 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:30,450 Geert Schipper: Yep, that's correct. 104 00:05:30,451 --> 00:05:36,539 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. So when you speak to a runner like me, when you 105 00:05:36,540 --> 00:05:39,240 Carrie Tollefson: come to the sport later, you're a little bit more 106 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,390 Carrie Tollefson: fresh, you don't have as much wear and tear. Is 107 00:05:42,390 --> 00:05:45,060 Carrie Tollefson: that the same for you? I mean why are you giving it, not giving 108 00:05:45,060 --> 00:05:46,860 Carrie Tollefson: it to Evan, but you're saying like, you want him 109 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:48,750 Carrie Tollefson: to catch you, you're still pretty new in here. 110 00:05:49,890 --> 00:05:57,480 Geert Schipper: Yeah, maybe in my heart, maybe the biggest winner, I 111 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,420 Geert Schipper: just do what I like to do as fast as 112 00:06:00,510 --> 00:06:06,870 Geert Schipper: I can. And yeah, I'm new in the sport, but 113 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:09,779 Geert Schipper: when you look through my history before I had my 114 00:06:09,779 --> 00:06:13,980 Geert Schipper: accident and then shortly after my accident, the way I 115 00:06:13,980 --> 00:06:18,270 Geert Schipper: can perform in sport, we did some tests, and my 116 00:06:18,270 --> 00:06:23,820 Geert Schipper: genes are already really good to do endurance competitions and 117 00:06:23,820 --> 00:06:28,800 Geert Schipper: trainings like this. And further, the way how you train 118 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,870 Geert Schipper: is important and maybe the variation in the three disciplines 119 00:06:33,870 --> 00:06:36,510 Geert Schipper: I do in triathlon gives me also a bit more 120 00:06:36,510 --> 00:06:43,470 Geert Schipper: endurance for doing wheelchair racing. But it is still painful in my 121 00:06:43,470 --> 00:06:47,219 Geert Schipper: back, in my legs, in my... It seems that I race 122 00:06:47,220 --> 00:06:51,960 Geert Schipper: like pain- free or that it's really easy, it isn't. Not 123 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,599 Geert Schipper: for me, not for (inaudible) , not for even Evan. 124 00:06:54,660 --> 00:06:56,010 Geert Schipper: It's always painful. 125 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah, there's always something, right? If it's not, for the runners, 126 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,029 Carrie Tollefson: their feet, their back, their glutes, whatever, it's your guys' 127 00:07:03,029 --> 00:07:05,190 Carrie Tollefson: shoulders or your abs like you said, or your back- 128 00:07:05,250 --> 00:07:07,200 Geert Schipper: Most of the times, it's not your shoulders or your arm, it's 129 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Geert Schipper: most of the time the pain in your back or your legs or 130 00:07:11,490 --> 00:07:14,010 Geert Schipper: it sounds crazy, but not the joints you used as 131 00:07:14,010 --> 00:07:19,140 Geert Schipper: much you think during the run, but maybe the joints 132 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:21,750 Geert Schipper: and the muscles, you won't use that much. 133 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:22,170 Carrie Tollefson: Sure. 134 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:22,440 Geert Schipper: Yeah. 135 00:07:22,530 --> 00:07:25,170 Carrie Tollefson: Sure. Tell me a little bit, just walk us back 136 00:07:25,170 --> 00:07:28,920 Carrie Tollefson: to your injury. Tell me how you got injured again. 137 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:34,710 Geert Schipper: In 2004, I was flying my own single engine airplane for 138 00:07:34,710 --> 00:07:39,150 Geert Schipper: the first time, that typical airplane. And I was approaching 139 00:07:39,570 --> 00:07:42,900 Geert Schipper: and I didn't have enough attention on my approaching speed, 140 00:07:42,990 --> 00:07:49,860 Geert Schipper: so I flew slightly slow already, and then a particular 141 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:53,790 Geert Schipper: moment too slow, I stalled, made a little dive and 142 00:07:53,790 --> 00:07:56,460 Geert Schipper: then right turn, and instead of making my landing straight 143 00:07:56,460 --> 00:07:58,980 Geert Schipper: ahead in front of me due to the turn, I 144 00:07:58,980 --> 00:08:02,520 Geert Schipper: made a crash landing into the field just beside the 145 00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:07,980 Geert Schipper: little airfield in France, broke my back and yeah, that's 146 00:08:07,980 --> 00:08:11,309 Geert Schipper: pretty much it. Then you think, okay, I've got a 147 00:08:11,310 --> 00:08:16,890 Geert Schipper: lot of pain in my back, just help me out the 148 00:08:16,890 --> 00:08:23,190 Geert Schipper: rest of my airplane. There was nothing left actually. And 149 00:08:23,190 --> 00:08:27,480 Geert Schipper: then I walk away, but I noticed my foot was 150 00:08:27,510 --> 00:08:30,660 Geert Schipper: kind of in a rear position and my knee was 151 00:08:30,660 --> 00:08:32,970 Geert Schipper: not pointing to my face, but pointing to my other 152 00:08:32,970 --> 00:08:35,910 Geert Schipper: knee. I was like, " Oh, that's not good. Maybe it's 153 00:08:35,910 --> 00:08:38,340 Geert Schipper: broken." But I didn't have pain in my legs. I 154 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:43,650 Geert Schipper: only had an awful pain in my back. So after one 155 00:08:43,650 --> 00:08:46,230 Geert Schipper: hour, the first ambulance was there, they had some troubles 156 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:50,250 Geert Schipper: to find it, and I was in a field which not easy to 157 00:08:50,250 --> 00:08:57,480 Geert Schipper: reach. And they told me, " Okay, just lay still and 158 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Geert Schipper: wait for another ambulance." And finally they put me on 159 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,500 Geert Schipper: a stretcher, drove me out of the field to the 160 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:09,059 Geert Schipper: hospital, and flew me to another hospital. And then they told me 161 00:09:09,059 --> 00:09:11,400 Geert Schipper: the next morning after my operation, " Okay, you never can 162 00:09:11,460 --> 00:09:17,550 Geert Schipper: walk again, you broke your back. And you've got some 163 00:09:17,550 --> 00:09:20,849 Geert Schipper: movement back in your legs in the nearby future, you'll 164 00:09:21,179 --> 00:09:24,780 Geert Schipper: be lucky, but walking and standing and biking, the stuff 165 00:09:24,780 --> 00:09:27,630 Geert Schipper: you've done before, you will sit in a wheelchair for the 166 00:09:27,630 --> 00:09:31,470 Geert Schipper: rest of your life." And that came in pretty hard. 167 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,590 Geert Schipper: But after six days in France and a few days 168 00:09:37,590 --> 00:09:42,510 Geert Schipper: in the Netherlands, all the drugs I get for making 169 00:09:42,510 --> 00:09:48,330 Geert Schipper: the pain kind of doable, I didn't need it so 170 00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:52,620 Geert Schipper: much. So my girlfriend told me, " There will be a 171 00:09:52,620 --> 00:09:56,970 Geert Schipper: good life with you with a chair as well." And 172 00:09:56,970 --> 00:09:57,929 Geert Schipper: we found a good life. 173 00:09:57,929 --> 00:09:59,130 Carrie Tollefson: I guess so. 174 00:09:59,130 --> 00:10:02,429 Geert Schipper: We found an awesome life. There were doors closed due to 175 00:10:02,429 --> 00:10:05,130 Geert Schipper: my accident, but there were so many doors get open 176 00:10:05,130 --> 00:10:08,130 Geert Schipper: again. And one of the doors is I found in sport. 177 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,699 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. Sport before the accident looked like what? 178 00:10:12,540 --> 00:10:16,470 Geert Schipper: It was just regular, whatever, you know what I mean? 179 00:10:16,470 --> 00:10:16,710 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. 180 00:10:17,250 --> 00:10:20,160 Geert Schipper: On a bike, I was ice skating, I did some 181 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:20,881 Geert Schipper: swimming, I did some running- 182 00:10:20,881 --> 00:10:21,751 Carrie Tollefson: Okay. Okay. Just everything. 183 00:10:21,751 --> 00:10:26,339 Geert Schipper: ... inline skating. Just after my job as a carpenter 184 00:10:26,340 --> 00:10:32,520 Geert Schipper: at that time, just do some sportive things, but never 185 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,929 Geert Schipper: ever with the idea to do it in bigger or 186 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:38,579 Geert Schipper: bigger competitions. 187 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,219 Carrie Tollefson: So life has changed in so many different ways. 188 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,961 Geert Schipper: Yes. Yeah. 189 00:10:42,961 --> 00:10:42,962 Carrie Tollefson: And- 190 00:10:42,962 --> 00:10:44,190 Geert Schipper: And there is always light. 191 00:10:44,460 --> 00:10:47,190 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah, there is always light. And it's really good for you to 192 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:49,440 Carrie Tollefson: remind us because you've been through a lot, but we're 193 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,470 Carrie Tollefson: so thankful that you have used that athletic background and 194 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:55,500 Carrie Tollefson: now have become one of the world's best wheelchair athletes 195 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:56,220 Carrie Tollefson: and triathletes. 196 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:59,040 Geert Schipper: For you, it's maybe that I'm one of the best, 197 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:59,969 Geert Schipper: but I don't feel like one. 198 00:10:59,969 --> 00:11:00,569 Carrie Tollefson: Well you are. 199 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,150 Geert Schipper: I'm just a guy. Believe me. 200 00:11:03,150 --> 00:11:05,969 Carrie Tollefson: Well, you're just a guy, but I think what's really cool is 201 00:11:05,970 --> 00:11:07,800 Carrie Tollefson: that you brought one of your three girls, one of 202 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,580 Carrie Tollefson: your three daughters. 203 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:08,670 Geert Schipper: Yes. 204 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:10,890 Carrie Tollefson: Was your girlfriend at the time when you had your accident- 205 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:11,160 Geert Schipper: Yes. 206 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,240 Carrie Tollefson: ... is she now your wife? 207 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:12,510 Geert Schipper: Yep. 208 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:15,569 Carrie Tollefson: Oh my goodness. You guys, what a love story. So 209 00:11:15,570 --> 00:11:17,939 Carrie Tollefson: you have one daughter here who's 12, you said in 210 00:11:17,940 --> 00:11:20,280 Carrie Tollefson: quotation marks, she's " sick" from school. 211 00:11:20,340 --> 00:11:20,460 Geert Schipper: Yes. 212 00:11:21,270 --> 00:11:23,370 Carrie Tollefson: She took a couple of days off from school. So 213 00:11:23,550 --> 00:11:25,530 Carrie Tollefson: tell us a little bit about bringing her over. 214 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,860 Geert Schipper: She's 12. You've got a girl from 12, they already a 215 00:11:31,860 --> 00:11:35,940 Geert Schipper: woman, she is kind of in between. Moments, she's still a kid 216 00:11:36,450 --> 00:11:39,570 Geert Schipper: and the other moments, she's kind of a young adult 217 00:11:39,780 --> 00:11:45,390 Geert Schipper: and she act like it, but it is fun to 218 00:11:45,390 --> 00:11:50,309 Geert Schipper: walk with her here. Yesterday, we went into the park 219 00:11:50,340 --> 00:11:53,309 Geert Schipper: and we were feeding the squirrels. And she's sitting on 220 00:11:53,309 --> 00:11:55,920 Geert Schipper: her knees and hold her hand with some peanuts and 221 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,910 Geert Schipper: the squirrels come there and it's so adorable to watch, 222 00:12:00,570 --> 00:12:04,170 Geert Schipper: see my girl doing that in her pink jacket. And 223 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,600 Geert Schipper: we walk over the Times Square and then she's just- 224 00:12:10,050 --> 00:12:10,290 Carrie Tollefson: In awe. 225 00:12:10,290 --> 00:12:15,150 Geert Schipper: ... watching and seeing and noticed everything what I usually 226 00:12:15,210 --> 00:12:19,110 Geert Schipper: see as well. It is fun. It is so much fun. 227 00:12:20,910 --> 00:12:22,559 Carrie Tollefson: She came in here. Can I ask her a question? 228 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:23,250 Geert Schipper: Oh, hi. Yeah, of course you can ask a question. 229 00:12:27,030 --> 00:12:31,890 Carrie Tollefson: What was it like to see Dad win today? Was 230 00:12:31,890 --> 00:12:33,540 Carrie Tollefson: it pretty cool? Did you get to see him in 231 00:12:33,540 --> 00:12:34,260 Carrie Tollefson: Central Park? 232 00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. 233 00:12:36,420 --> 00:12:36,420 Carrie Tollefson: What is- 234 00:12:36,420 --> 00:12:36,421 Geert Schipper: You're a little shot. 235 00:12:36,421 --> 00:12:42,030 Carrie Tollefson: That's okay. What was New York, what is the big city like? 236 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,900 Geert Schipper: (foreign language) . Is it nice? 237 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:47,459 Speaker 8: It was good. 238 00:12:47,459 --> 00:12:47,460 Carrie Tollefson: yeah, 239 00:12:47,460 --> 00:12:48,241 Geert Schipper: It was fun, isn't it? 240 00:12:48,241 --> 00:12:51,929 Carrie Tollefson: And are you the oldest of the three girls? 241 00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:53,309 Speaker 8: No, I'm the middle. 242 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,069 Carrie Tollefson: You're the middle child. Oh. So are you the first 243 00:12:56,070 --> 00:12:57,809 Carrie Tollefson: one to come to New York City with your dad? 244 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,290 Speaker 8: No, here's my mother and then my older sister and 245 00:13:01,290 --> 00:13:02,309 Speaker 8: now me. 246 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,260 Carrie Tollefson: Oh, okay. Well congratulations and thanks for letting dad do 247 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:08,850 Carrie Tollefson: his thing. Now, you guys get to go out and 248 00:13:08,850 --> 00:13:09,480 Carrie Tollefson: have some fun. 249 00:13:10,770 --> 00:13:11,010 Geert Schipper: Thanks. 250 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:13,170 Carrie Tollefson: Well, tell me a little bit more about your spring. 251 00:13:13,230 --> 00:13:14,400 Carrie Tollefson: What do you have going on now after this? 252 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,520 Geert Schipper: I've got a few days off. This afternoon, we fly 253 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Geert Schipper: back to the Netherlands. So tomorrow early in the morning 254 00:13:24,030 --> 00:13:28,740 Geert Schipper: we arrive, I make a short sleep. Maybe in the 255 00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:32,910 Geert Schipper: afternoon, I go to the pool to get myself- 256 00:13:34,050 --> 00:13:35,130 Carrie Tollefson: Loosened up a little bit. 257 00:13:35,130 --> 00:13:41,370 Geert Schipper: Yes. Not only for loosen up, just make sure you won't do nothing. 258 00:13:41,370 --> 00:13:41,820 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. 259 00:13:42,390 --> 00:13:45,210 Geert Schipper: And when you do nothing, you get really tired. Just 260 00:13:45,540 --> 00:13:49,829 Geert Schipper: take a little exercise to make sure you've done something 261 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:52,319 Geert Schipper: on a day. So I probably go to the pool and 262 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,010 Geert Schipper: maybe go on my bike for an hour or two, 263 00:13:57,270 --> 00:14:00,059 Geert Schipper: but only an easy spin and an easy swim, no 264 00:14:00,059 --> 00:14:05,730 Geert Schipper: rush. Then in three weeks, I go to Paris for 265 00:14:05,730 --> 00:14:10,290 Geert Schipper: the Paris Marathon. Thereafter, I go home for a few 266 00:14:10,290 --> 00:14:12,929 Geert Schipper: days, then I fly to Boston for the Boston Marathon, 267 00:14:13,770 --> 00:14:16,740 Geert Schipper: go home for two days, then back to London for 268 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:23,820 Geert Schipper: the London marathon, two weeks off. Training as fast and as good 269 00:14:23,820 --> 00:14:27,270 Geert Schipper: as I can for the first triathlon competition in Japan. 270 00:14:28,170 --> 00:14:31,890 Geert Schipper: And then there's a few more triathlon competitions, one in 271 00:14:31,890 --> 00:14:35,040 Geert Schipper: Italy and one in France. And in the meantime, I'm 272 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:38,250 Geert Schipper: also moving from one place to another place. So- 273 00:14:38,250 --> 00:14:40,290 Carrie Tollefson: Like one house to another house? Oh, man. 274 00:14:40,350 --> 00:14:43,830 Geert Schipper: No, it's not a house. It's more like a farm. 275 00:14:43,890 --> 00:14:44,970 Carrie Tollefson: Okay. Oh, you've got a lot going on. 276 00:14:46,590 --> 00:14:50,520 Geert Schipper: I've got too much equipment to move. It won't fit 277 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,380 Geert Schipper: in one truck. I think I need five. 278 00:14:53,730 --> 00:14:55,980 Carrie Tollefson: Well, I'm glad that you won some money today. Maybe 279 00:14:55,980 --> 00:14:57,120 Carrie Tollefson: you can hire some help. 280 00:14:58,890 --> 00:15:00,870 Geert Schipper: That definitely helps. 281 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:01,771 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. Well congratulations- 282 00:15:01,771 --> 00:15:01,772 Geert Schipper: Thank you so much. 283 00:15:01,772 --> 00:15:06,720 Carrie Tollefson: ... on such an awesome race. 49:53 is what you ran 284 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,530 Carrie Tollefson: today and two- time winner of the United Airlines NYC Half. 285 00:15:10,530 --> 00:15:12,630 Geert Schipper: Yes. Maybe it comes a third time then. 286 00:15:12,630 --> 00:15:13,290 Carrie Tollefson: There you go. 287 00:15:13,290 --> 00:15:14,760 Geert Schipper: And then it'll be time to quit. 288 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:16,830 Carrie Tollefson: No, I don't think so. We don't want you to do that yet. 289 00:15:17,100 --> 00:15:18,240 Geert Schipper: After three times it's time. 290 00:15:18,990 --> 00:15:20,521 Carrie Tollefson: Well, we'll see you in Boston for sure. Congratulations. 291 00:15:20,521 --> 00:15:21,990 Geert Schipper: Yes, thank you very much. 292 00:15:22,290 --> 00:15:26,190 Carrie Tollefson: Sitting across the table from Manuela Schär, our four- time 293 00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:31,890 Carrie Tollefson: United NYC Half Marathon champion. I mean that's pretty crazy. 294 00:15:31,890 --> 00:15:33,600 Carrie Tollefson: Four times you've won this race before. 295 00:15:33,810 --> 00:15:37,440 Manuela Schär: Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean it's always great to race 296 00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:39,780 Manuela Schär: in New York and then to even win in New 297 00:15:39,780 --> 00:15:42,750 Manuela Schär: York, it's even better. So I'm really happy. Yeah. 298 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:45,150 Carrie Tollefson: So today was different. I want to talk about that, 299 00:15:45,150 --> 00:15:47,490 Carrie Tollefson: because you got off the line, and we've seen you 300 00:15:47,490 --> 00:15:50,280 Carrie Tollefson: get off the line really fast in other races, but 301 00:15:50,580 --> 00:15:53,520 Carrie Tollefson: today you got off the line and really you were 302 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Carrie Tollefson: on your own for most of the race. 303 00:15:55,860 --> 00:16:01,110 Manuela Schär: Yeah, it was not easy conditions for us because usually 304 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:06,090 Manuela Schär: we race with different settings when it's dry or when 305 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:10,410 Manuela Schär: it's raining. And today, it was so foggy, so we had to 306 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,250 Manuela Schär: decide if you want to go with the dry setup 307 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:16,470 Manuela Schär: or if you want to go with the rain setup. 308 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:20,670 Manuela Schär: And I decided to go with my gloves I would 309 00:16:20,670 --> 00:16:23,280 Manuela Schär: use in rain. So I think that made the difference. 310 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,940 Carrie Tollefson: So remind me, when you wear gloves, the wheelchair athletes, 311 00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:30,600 Carrie Tollefson: I was stumbling on the word in the broadcast too, 312 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,930 Carrie Tollefson: is sandpaper that you have or some kind of grit 313 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,740 Carrie Tollefson: on the glove? 314 00:16:34,950 --> 00:16:38,760 Manuela Schär: Yeah. So usually, in dry conditions we use gloves with 315 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Manuela Schär: like a rubber and then our push rim has a 316 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,790 Manuela Schär: rubber too. So rubber on rubber works really well when 317 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:48,120 Manuela Schär: it's dry, but then when it's wet, it's slippery and 318 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,120 Manuela Schär: so you have to find something that gives you back 319 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,270 Manuela Schär: that grip. And some people use sandpaper on their gloves, 320 00:16:54,270 --> 00:16:56,730 Manuela Schär: some people use some kind of like... 321 00:16:57,630 --> 00:16:59,190 Carrie Tollefson: Like a sticky? 322 00:16:59,190 --> 00:17:06,300 Manuela Schär: Yeah. And then some people use like a handball cluster. 323 00:17:07,290 --> 00:17:11,670 Manuela Schär: So they're all different options you have. So you have 324 00:17:11,670 --> 00:17:13,260 Manuela Schär: to find the right thing for you. 325 00:17:13,470 --> 00:17:15,389 Carrie Tollefson: It was really interesting though, because when we were walking 326 00:17:15,390 --> 00:17:17,580 Carrie Tollefson: there was a little bit of a slip. So I 327 00:17:17,580 --> 00:17:19,650 Carrie Tollefson: love that you mentioned that in the post- race interview 328 00:17:19,650 --> 00:17:24,240 Carrie Tollefson: that you really went with the wet weather. And as 329 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,359 Carrie Tollefson: a runner, we think about that with our shoes, but 330 00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:29,580 Carrie Tollefson: for us that don't know what it's like to be 331 00:17:29,580 --> 00:17:32,310 Carrie Tollefson: a wheelchair athlete, I love that you give that insight. 332 00:17:32,790 --> 00:17:35,550 Manuela Schär: Yeah. That's always the biggest challenge because sometimes you don't 333 00:17:35,550 --> 00:17:39,300 Manuela Schär: have enough time to make the decision and then you 334 00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:41,609 Manuela Schär: don't know what to bring to the start line. And 335 00:17:41,609 --> 00:17:44,070 Manuela Schär: if you still have enough time to change if it 336 00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:49,109 Manuela Schär: doesn't work and sometimes you just realize it a few 337 00:17:49,109 --> 00:17:51,270 Manuela Schär: miles into the race if you made the right call 338 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:51,359 Manuela Schär: or not. 339 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,340 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah, because there's no changing mid- race. 340 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:57,359 Manuela Schär: Yes. No. I mean I brought my other gloves, but that would 341 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,180 Manuela Schär: mean I would have to stop and then sit out 342 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,240 Manuela Schär: my racing chair and then change my gloves. I would 343 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:08,070 Manuela Schär: rather not do that, but I mean if it wouldn't 344 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:11,790 Manuela Schär: work, I would still have this option to change. 345 00:18:11,850 --> 00:18:17,040 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. Well today, you won big. You ran 54: 09. I 346 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,990 Carrie Tollefson: want to talk a little bit, you're getting ready for 347 00:18:19,020 --> 00:18:22,530 Carrie Tollefson: not just Boston, but London, the wheelchair athletes do back 348 00:18:22,530 --> 00:18:24,540 Carrie Tollefson: to back to back to back. You're amazing that way. 349 00:18:24,660 --> 00:18:27,510 Carrie Tollefson: And even like, I get it, it's different, right? There's 350 00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:29,400 Carrie Tollefson: not as much pounding, but there's still wear and tear 351 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,619 Carrie Tollefson: on your body in different ways, but also the travel- 352 00:18:31,770 --> 00:18:31,771 Manuela Schär: Exactly. 353 00:18:31,771 --> 00:18:33,480 Carrie Tollefson: ... is wild with you guys. 354 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,840 Manuela Schär: Yeah. And to be honest, the older I get, the 355 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,260 Manuela Schär: more I realize it's not easy to do all this 356 00:18:40,260 --> 00:18:45,060 Manuela Schär: time difference and different food and then other hotel and 357 00:18:45,090 --> 00:18:48,720 Manuela Schär: the traveling with all your, that big box with the 358 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,150 Manuela Schär: racing chair and then you have a separate box for 359 00:18:51,150 --> 00:18:54,420 Manuela Schär: your wheels and then maybe you bring a spare wheel 360 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:57,060 Manuela Schär: and then you have your luggage. So it's always- 361 00:18:57,900 --> 00:18:58,740 Carrie Tollefson: It's challenging. 362 00:18:58,740 --> 00:18:59,551 Manuela Schär: It's challenging. Yeah. 363 00:18:59,551 --> 00:19:03,540 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. So last year seemed like there were some challenges 364 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,450 Carrie Tollefson: and maybe that's just me being the broadcaster that I 365 00:19:06,450 --> 00:19:09,959 Carrie Tollefson: am and looking on paper that Manuela didn't win the 366 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,770 Carrie Tollefson: road races that we've seen in the past. And as 367 00:19:13,770 --> 00:19:15,930 Carrie Tollefson: an athlete to athlete, like I get it, we have 368 00:19:15,930 --> 00:19:18,119 Carrie Tollefson: ups and down years, but can you explain that to 369 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,280 Carrie Tollefson: me? Was it a down year? Was it a great 370 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,399 Carrie Tollefson: year? You won the Paralympic 800, you got silver in the 371 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,640 Carrie Tollefson: 400. I mean it's an amazing year, but yet some 372 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,700 Carrie Tollefson: of your longer distances, we didn't see a number one 373 00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:31,679 Carrie Tollefson: next to. Tell me a little bit about that. And 374 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:32,970 Carrie Tollefson: maybe I am totally wrong. 375 00:19:33,390 --> 00:19:36,630 Manuela Schär: No, you're not. I mean I'm so happy that I 376 00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:39,629 Manuela Schär: was able to win these two medals because if not, 377 00:19:40,290 --> 00:19:43,140 Manuela Schär: I would have been so frustrated with my Paralympic Games. 378 00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:49,050 Manuela Schär: For sure, the marathon did not go well. I'm still 379 00:19:49,050 --> 00:19:53,790 Manuela Schär: struggling a little bit with that because, yeah, the marathon 380 00:19:53,790 --> 00:19:57,570 Manuela Schär: was supposed to be my distance, it's my favorite race. 381 00:19:58,890 --> 00:20:01,679 Manuela Schär: But yeah, I had some really up and downs last 382 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,419 Manuela Schär: year and I had some big changes also. So, yeah, 383 00:20:06,660 --> 00:20:13,020 Manuela Schär: it's hard to put it all in one, it's hard 384 00:20:13,020 --> 00:20:16,139 Manuela Schär: to find one reason why this happened. 385 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,580 Carrie Tollefson: And that's why we do it, right? 386 00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:17,731 Manuela Schär: Yeah, exactly. 387 00:20:17,731 --> 00:20:20,071 Carrie Tollefson: We have to figure out how to be better each time we toe the line. 388 00:20:20,071 --> 00:20:25,230 Manuela Schär: Yeah. And then also some athletes just improved so much. Like, 389 00:20:25,230 --> 00:20:29,100 Manuela Schär: Catherine, she's insane, it's crazy- 390 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:29,521 Carrie Tollefson: Catherine Debrunner. 391 00:20:29,910 --> 00:20:33,330 Manuela Schär: Yeah. And then Susannah is doing really, really well and 392 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,659 Manuela Schär: I think it's a really exciting time for the women's 393 00:20:36,660 --> 00:20:40,350 Manuela Schär: field and I'm so excited to see that and to 394 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,800 Manuela Schär: still be part of it and to... I don't know, 395 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:49,409 Manuela Schär: it's like we're all in this together and it's always 396 00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:54,330 Manuela Schär: fun to watch everybody race and break records and yeah, 397 00:20:54,330 --> 00:20:56,400 Manuela Schär: still being part of it is amazing. 398 00:20:56,430 --> 00:20:58,800 Carrie Tollefson: I love that, the camaraderie that, well the runners, but 399 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,220 Carrie Tollefson: also the wheelers have, it's just something really special. Getting 400 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:05,520 Carrie Tollefson: ready now for some fall or some spring marathons. We're 401 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,280 Carrie Tollefson: not trying to look too far out to the New York 402 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,580 Carrie Tollefson: City Marathon, but so spring races, how does this win 403 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:15,420 Carrie Tollefson: now and maybe more so mentally get you fired up 404 00:21:15,420 --> 00:21:18,300 Carrie Tollefson: for Boston, London, all the other races? 405 00:21:19,530 --> 00:21:22,230 Manuela Schär: I think I came here to use this as a 406 00:21:22,530 --> 00:21:24,929 Manuela Schär: bit of a warmup for the marathons, for Boston and 407 00:21:24,930 --> 00:21:29,639 Manuela Schär: London, and I think it was a good decision because it 408 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,730 Manuela Schär: gives me a good feeling obviously to go into Boston 409 00:21:32,730 --> 00:21:37,830 Manuela Schär: and, yeah, I mean it's going to be exciting. It's going to 410 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:41,880 Manuela Schär: be a really strong field, really strong women's field, and 411 00:21:42,750 --> 00:21:46,500 Manuela Schär: as always, Boston is a challenging course, so I'm very 412 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,690 Manuela Schär: excited to see how it goes. 413 00:21:48,780 --> 00:21:50,490 Carrie Tollefson: Oh, we are too. Now, what do you do here in 414 00:21:50,490 --> 00:21:54,629 Carrie Tollefson: New York for fun after the race? Like Susannah likes 415 00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:57,119 Carrie Tollefson: to try to go to a show, Susannah Scaroni we're 416 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,030 Carrie Tollefson: talking about, do you get to do anything fun or 417 00:22:00,030 --> 00:22:01,409 Carrie Tollefson: are you going to get home right away? 418 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,619 Manuela Schär: Yeah, I made this a short one. I'm leaving tonight 419 00:22:04,619 --> 00:22:08,460 Manuela Schär: and I got here on Friday night, so, yeah, there 420 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:11,850 Manuela Schär: was not a lot of time. I just went to a 421 00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:15,359 Manuela Schär: few stores and went a little shopping- 422 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,119 Carrie Tollefson: (inaudible) . Yeah. Oh, well good luck to you. Thank 423 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,810 Carrie Tollefson: you for just such an awesome intense race today. It 424 00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:27,389 Carrie Tollefson: was fun to see that fire. I mean we always 425 00:22:27,390 --> 00:22:29,340 Carrie Tollefson: see it in you, but when you broke the tape 426 00:22:29,340 --> 00:22:31,321 Carrie Tollefson: today, I think I even said it, " She's back." 427 00:22:31,321 --> 00:22:31,890 Manuela Schär: Thank you. 428 00:22:32,190 --> 00:22:33,480 Carrie Tollefson: So, congratulations. 429 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:33,990 Manuela Schär: Thank you. 430 00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:37,080 Carrie Tollefson: And now we get to talk to our new winner, 431 00:22:37,410 --> 00:22:41,550 Carrie Tollefson: Sharon Lokedi. Sharon, okay, you have cracked the tape for 432 00:22:41,550 --> 00:22:44,730 Carrie Tollefson: the TCS New York City Marathon in your very first 433 00:22:44,730 --> 00:22:45,448 Carrie Tollefson: marathon ever. 434 00:22:45,449 --> 00:22:45,450 Sharon Lokedi: Yeah, yeah. 435 00:22:45,450 --> 00:22:48,869 Carrie Tollefson: And now you cracked the tape today at NYC Half. 436 00:22:48,930 --> 00:22:49,350 Sharon Lokedi: Yeah. 437 00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:51,900 Carrie Tollefson: Tell me now it's about an hour past the race, so how are 438 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:52,350 Carrie Tollefson: you feeling? 439 00:22:52,859 --> 00:22:56,280 Sharon Lokedi: I feel good. I'm very happy about the race today. 440 00:22:57,450 --> 00:22:59,910 Sharon Lokedi: I honestly, I don't know if we would have gone 441 00:22:59,910 --> 00:23:02,910 Sharon Lokedi: any other way. I just wanted to come out here 442 00:23:02,910 --> 00:23:08,640 Sharon Lokedi: and compete and just get the race going and see 443 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,859 Sharon Lokedi: how aware I am with my training and everything. And 444 00:23:11,310 --> 00:23:14,160 Sharon Lokedi: I'm so glad to have come with a win in 445 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,720 Sharon Lokedi: a very magical race, in a very magical place, and 446 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,310 Sharon Lokedi: yeah, the course was awesome. 447 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,100 Carrie Tollefson: So magical. That's what you've said now twice. 448 00:23:23,129 --> 00:23:23,459 Sharon Lokedi: Yes. 449 00:23:23,490 --> 00:23:25,889 Carrie Tollefson: What was so magical? Why was it so awesome? 450 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:29,070 Sharon Lokedi: Honestly, I feel like every time I'm out here, it 451 00:23:29,070 --> 00:23:31,800 Sharon Lokedi: just brings something out of me. I just get so 452 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,950 Sharon Lokedi: excited and I just want to go out there and 453 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:41,460 Sharon Lokedi: run fast and compete so well. And there's strength, as 454 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:45,119 Sharon Lokedi: you go out there, the New York Roadrunners, they're just 455 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,929 Sharon Lokedi: so cool and so awesome and they're always so nice. 456 00:23:48,990 --> 00:23:52,740 Sharon Lokedi: So I mean they provide everything for you and it just feels, from 457 00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:55,439 Sharon Lokedi: the time you get here, it just feels so relaxing. And I 458 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,520 Sharon Lokedi: think that helps with, as an athlete, just settling in 459 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,850 Sharon Lokedi: and feeling very loved and very welcomed and I think 460 00:24:02,850 --> 00:24:05,670 Sharon Lokedi: that support fuels you and I think for me, it just 461 00:24:05,670 --> 00:24:08,609 Sharon Lokedi: makes me want to do well. And yeah, every time 462 00:24:08,609 --> 00:24:12,780 Sharon Lokedi: I'm out there and the people on the course, that is 463 00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:15,300 Sharon Lokedi: another thing, is so cool. They just cheer you on 464 00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:18,209 Sharon Lokedi: and they're wanting you to run so fast. And I 465 00:24:18,210 --> 00:24:23,040 Sharon Lokedi: think that helps me, just gives me more support and 466 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,830 Sharon Lokedi: confidence and I just want to keep going and keep fighting. 467 00:24:26,010 --> 00:24:27,660 Carrie Tollefson: Well, let's break the race down just a little bit. 468 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:30,300 Carrie Tollefson: So off the line, you weren't right up there pushing 469 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:34,439 Carrie Tollefson: the pace, it was Calli Hauger- Thackery, there was a number of 470 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,709 Carrie Tollefson: other athletes, Fiona O'Keeffe, but you were kind of in 471 00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:40,290 Carrie Tollefson: this big pack for, I don't know, about five miles? 472 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:40,800 Sharon Lokedi: Yeah. 473 00:24:40,859 --> 00:24:43,590 Carrie Tollefson: So walk us through that. Why did you do that? 474 00:24:43,619 --> 00:24:44,910 Carrie Tollefson: Was that intentional? 475 00:24:44,970 --> 00:24:48,330 Sharon Lokedi: Not really. Just most of the time for me is 476 00:24:48,330 --> 00:24:50,520 Sharon Lokedi: I just get to the race and just pay attention 477 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,060 Sharon Lokedi: to whatever happens, if there's a move made, just make 478 00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:57,090 Sharon Lokedi: sure I'm staying with it. And yeah, we did start 479 00:24:57,090 --> 00:25:00,030 Sharon Lokedi: today and everyone was in there and I just wanted to just 480 00:25:00,030 --> 00:25:04,140 Sharon Lokedi: be in... It was a bit chilly when we started, but it wasn't that 481 00:25:04,140 --> 00:25:06,930 Sharon Lokedi: bad so I just wanted to stay in it and 482 00:25:06,930 --> 00:25:11,220 Sharon Lokedi: just stay as relaxed and controlled as long as I 483 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:14,820 Sharon Lokedi: could. And then just maybe the last few miles just 484 00:25:14,970 --> 00:25:16,649 Sharon Lokedi: kept making moves and yeah. 485 00:25:17,910 --> 00:25:20,730 Carrie Tollefson: You were on the FDR for quite some time. Was there a 486 00:25:20,730 --> 00:25:22,980 Carrie Tollefson: little bit of a tailwind there, did I hear? 487 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,520 Sharon Lokedi: Yes. 488 00:25:23,670 --> 00:25:26,790 Carrie Tollefson: Did you let that take you? Were you trying not 489 00:25:26,790 --> 00:25:28,410 Carrie Tollefson: to let it take you? How do you run with 490 00:25:28,410 --> 00:25:29,369 Carrie Tollefson: that big of a tailwind? 491 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,119 Sharon Lokedi: Honestly, I don't know if you can even feel it because you're just 492 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:33,330 Sharon Lokedi: so focused. 493 00:25:33,330 --> 00:25:33,869 Carrie Tollefson: So focused. 494 00:25:34,260 --> 00:25:37,710 Sharon Lokedi: So most of the time it's like, I feel like once 495 00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:40,320 Sharon Lokedi: you're set your head in that, you're just thinking about 496 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,250 Sharon Lokedi: that moment. And I think, yeah, yes, it did definitely help 497 00:25:44,609 --> 00:25:48,359 Sharon Lokedi: us because I mean it's almost helping you get faster 498 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,148 Sharon Lokedi: or go faster, and there was a few miles in 499 00:25:51,148 --> 00:25:52,830 Sharon Lokedi: there that we were running and I'm like, " Oh, jeez." 500 00:25:56,010 --> 00:25:56,011 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah, it was pushing you. 501 00:25:56,011 --> 00:25:57,780 Sharon Lokedi: Yes, yes. So yeah, I think it did play a big part of 502 00:25:58,020 --> 00:26:00,001 Sharon Lokedi: getting us going, so, yeah. 503 00:26:00,001 --> 00:26:02,429 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah, yeah. Okay, then you go through Times Square? 504 00:26:02,490 --> 00:26:02,700 Sharon Lokedi: Yes. 505 00:26:03,390 --> 00:26:04,200 Carrie Tollefson: How cool was that? 506 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,050 Sharon Lokedi: Yes, oh, that was... We got up through this hill 507 00:26:07,050 --> 00:26:11,399 Sharon Lokedi: and it was a little bit over nine miles and then there was a hill and then a 508 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,190 Sharon Lokedi: downhill and then once we got to the city, you could 509 00:26:14,190 --> 00:26:14,761 Sharon Lokedi: tell when you get to the city- 510 00:26:14,761 --> 00:26:14,762 Carrie Tollefson: You can feel the energy coming. 511 00:26:14,762 --> 00:26:21,630 Sharon Lokedi: Yes. And all of a sudden it's starting to get so loud and everything. And 512 00:26:22,050 --> 00:26:25,139 Sharon Lokedi: I think that's when I just got the cadence and the 513 00:26:25,170 --> 00:26:26,910 Sharon Lokedi: rhythm going and I just took it. 514 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,280 Carrie Tollefson: You did. At 10 miles, it was almost like a 515 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:29,910 Carrie Tollefson: light switch. 516 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:30,119 Sharon Lokedi: Yeah. 517 00:26:30,270 --> 00:26:32,550 Carrie Tollefson: Did you have that strategy coming in? Did you and 518 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:35,190 Carrie Tollefson: coach say, " At 10 miles I want to make a move?" 519 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,859 Sharon Lokedi: No, actually we had a tempo last week where we 520 00:26:37,859 --> 00:26:40,859 Sharon Lokedi: did like a six- mile progressive run. So, he texted 521 00:26:40,859 --> 00:26:42,750 Sharon Lokedi: me last night and he was like, " Just do it 522 00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:45,990 Sharon Lokedi: like you did last time. Just keep getting faster, go 523 00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:48,630 Sharon Lokedi: marathon pace and then half- marathon pace," just like that. 524 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,859 Sharon Lokedi: But I thought about it but then I was like, 525 00:26:52,859 --> 00:26:55,020 Sharon Lokedi: six miles is a long way to go, you know? 526 00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:58,740 Sharon Lokedi: And so, yeah, I just wanted to... At 10 miles, I 527 00:26:58,740 --> 00:27:02,340 Sharon Lokedi: just wanted to maybe slowly just keep improving and see 528 00:27:02,340 --> 00:27:03,090 Sharon Lokedi: how that goes. 529 00:27:03,150 --> 00:27:05,820 Carrie Tollefson: No looking back after 10 miles though really, you really were 530 00:27:05,820 --> 00:27:09,149 Carrie Tollefson: like... Did you feel the sense that you were really 531 00:27:09,570 --> 00:27:10,679 Carrie Tollefson: gaining on them? Or? 532 00:27:10,859 --> 00:27:14,040 Sharon Lokedi: I did, but I also, there's something that's always like, 533 00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:15,960 Sharon Lokedi: oh, you need to look back, maybe see how far 534 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,430 Sharon Lokedi: they... And I feel like I always do that and I'm trying 535 00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:23,730 Sharon Lokedi: to get better at it and just trust myself, just 536 00:27:23,730 --> 00:27:28,530 Sharon Lokedi: trust once I get going, I just trust that I 537 00:27:28,530 --> 00:27:30,420 Sharon Lokedi: can just take it all the way to the end 538 00:27:30,420 --> 00:27:33,270 Sharon Lokedi: and yeah, it was just that was a new thing for me. 539 00:27:33,810 --> 00:27:36,180 Carrie Tollefson: I love that you say that, because in many interviews 540 00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:38,909 Carrie Tollefson: that I've either done or I've listened to of yours, 541 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,020 Carrie Tollefson: you trust. You have a lot of trust in your 542 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:46,590 Carrie Tollefson: training, in your coach, in your community around you. 543 00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:48,240 Sharon Lokedi: Yes, yes. Because- 544 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,000 Carrie Tollefson: How do you get that? How do these runners, I 545 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,310 Carrie Tollefson: mean we can hear the crowds going crazy still and 546 00:27:53,310 --> 00:27:54,961 Carrie Tollefson: we're 46 floors up, right? 547 00:27:54,961 --> 00:27:55,560 Sharon Lokedi: Yeah, yeah. 548 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:59,100 Carrie Tollefson: But I mean how do you learn to trust your instinct and 549 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,060 Carrie Tollefson: what you've been doing? 550 00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,810 Sharon Lokedi: I think for me it starts with training. Every time 551 00:28:03,810 --> 00:28:05,910 Sharon Lokedi: I'm training it's like we start doing these workouts and 552 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,430 Sharon Lokedi: sometimes they get so hard and then I'm just like, " Okay, you can 553 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,800 Sharon Lokedi: just do it. You can just hold it a little 554 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,199 Sharon Lokedi: bit longer and it gets better." So just like I 555 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,260 Sharon Lokedi: said, I work on that during my training and then 556 00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:18,660 Sharon Lokedi: I come to races and even I think when I 557 00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:21,270 Sharon Lokedi: was in college, I used to be like, every time 558 00:28:21,270 --> 00:28:23,940 Sharon Lokedi: I go for a run or a race, my coach would tell me, " 559 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,699 Sharon Lokedi: Just make sure you're using the person in front of 560 00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:30,750 Sharon Lokedi: you to get you going, to pull you." So even 561 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:32,969 Sharon Lokedi: in training, even when I have a pacemaker or I 562 00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:35,550 Sharon Lokedi: don't, I just try to use something that's ahead of 563 00:28:35,550 --> 00:28:36,869 Sharon Lokedi: me just to get me going. 564 00:28:37,709 --> 00:28:39,000 Carrie Tollefson: Well today you had no one in front of you 565 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,610 Carrie Tollefson: the last three miles, but you did have that finish 566 00:28:41,610 --> 00:28:44,040 Carrie Tollefson: tape and then did you see the time when you crossed? 567 00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:46,861 Sharon Lokedi: Actually- 568 00:28:46,861 --> 00:28:46,862 Carrie Tollefson: 1:07:04? 569 00:28:46,862 --> 00:28:53,130 Sharon Lokedi: I actually saw, I think it was 1K to go and it was like 62 and I'm like, " Oh my 570 00:28:53,130 --> 00:28:53,431 Sharon Lokedi: god," I think it was 63, sorry, I don't remember- 571 00:28:53,431 --> 00:28:55,021 Carrie Tollefson: Something like that. Yeah. 572 00:28:55,021 --> 00:29:00,300 Sharon Lokedi: Somewhere around there. And in my head I'm like, " If I'm running 3: 573 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:04,740 Sharon Lokedi: 10 pace, I'm on 66," and I'm like, " Okay, just hold it. Just run." 574 00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:07,140 Sharon Lokedi: But then I got the hill and I was like, " 575 00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:10,380 Sharon Lokedi: Dang it." And then the course turned and then I 576 00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:14,520 Sharon Lokedi: had to go and I could see... I know it was 577 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,470 Sharon Lokedi: so cold, so I tried to fight as hard as 578 00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:21,180 Sharon Lokedi: I could, but I didn't get 66, but 67 is still so much 579 00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:24,270 Sharon Lokedi: better. So I'm really glad with that time and I 580 00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:27,900 Sharon Lokedi: think if anything, it just made me so confident going forward. 581 00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:30,510 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. New event record today. How does this set you 582 00:29:30,510 --> 00:29:33,210 Carrie Tollefson: up for Boston? Because Boston now is what? Five weeks away? 583 00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:33,510 Sharon Lokedi: Yeah. 584 00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:36,720 Carrie Tollefson: So tell me, I mean this race in itself is huge, 585 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:38,820 Carrie Tollefson: now you have another big one coming up. So how 586 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:39,660 Carrie Tollefson: does this help you? 587 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,870 Sharon Lokedi: Honestly, I think it was just... It is really like, 588 00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:45,420 Sharon Lokedi: I've done so many workouts in running that I'm like, " 589 00:29:45,420 --> 00:29:47,760 Sharon Lokedi: Okay, yes, I might be fit, but I didn't know 590 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,450 Sharon Lokedi: where I was." So I think this going forward is 591 00:29:51,450 --> 00:29:54,810 Sharon Lokedi: just going to be a step in the right direction 592 00:29:54,810 --> 00:29:58,890 Sharon Lokedi: of knowing, okay, I can do this or I'm here and 593 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,410 Sharon Lokedi: I have to do this. So I think, if anything, 594 00:30:01,410 --> 00:30:03,870 Sharon Lokedi: it's just going to help me fuel me more and 595 00:30:03,870 --> 00:30:05,220 Sharon Lokedi: get more excited for Boston. 596 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,550 Carrie Tollefson: Oh my goodness. Okay. So you told me beforehand that you 597 00:30:08,550 --> 00:30:11,340 Carrie Tollefson: spend too much money in the city. So we got 598 00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:13,320 Carrie Tollefson: to know, I mean I think you probably just came 599 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,570 Carrie Tollefson: home and you got showered. Did you eat something? What did 600 00:30:15,570 --> 00:30:16,800 Carrie Tollefson: you eat? What was your first thing that you ate 601 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,340 Carrie Tollefson: after the race? 602 00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:21,150 Sharon Lokedi: Actually we went to the Tavern on the Green and I had tea and 603 00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:22,590 Sharon Lokedi: they had this quiche. 604 00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:23,550 Carrie Tollefson: Ooh, yum. 605 00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:25,530 Sharon Lokedi: Yeah, it was good. It was really good. And then 606 00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:26,880 Sharon Lokedi: this green bagel. 607 00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:30,060 Carrie Tollefson: Because it's St Paddy's Day on Monday. 608 00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:30,150 Sharon Lokedi: Yes. 609 00:30:30,150 --> 00:30:31,080 Carrie Tollefson: Oh my gosh, so fun. 610 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,620 Sharon Lokedi: So I had that and yeah, we have that big lunch 611 00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:37,350 Sharon Lokedi: coming, so I need to like... I think that's enough for 612 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:39,810 Sharon Lokedi: now, but I am really looking forward to that because 613 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,730 Sharon Lokedi: they always have really good food. 614 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,850 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah, they do it up here. 615 00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:45,360 Sharon Lokedi: I'm very excited. Yeah. Yeah. 616 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,970 Carrie Tollefson: Oh my goodness. Well, congratulations. Thank you for putting on such a 617 00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:49,530 Carrie Tollefson: great show. It's always fun to watch you race. 618 00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:51,330 Sharon Lokedi: Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. 619 00:30:51,630 --> 00:30:54,630 Carrie Tollefson: All right, everybody sitting across the table here from Abel Kipchumba, 620 00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:58,110 Carrie Tollefson: who is the two- time United Airlines NYC Half Marathon 621 00:30:58,110 --> 00:31:04,440 Carrie Tollefson: champion. Listen, 59:09 today and Conner Mantz ran you basically 622 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,540 Carrie Tollefson: to that finish line. So I got to hear about 623 00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:09,270 Carrie Tollefson: your race. Let's talk about it. Coming back here as 624 00:31:09,270 --> 00:31:12,120 Carrie Tollefson: the defending champion, how excited were you to toe the line 625 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:12,870 Carrie Tollefson: again this year? 626 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,640 Abel Kipchumba: First of all, today when I was coming for this second 627 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:24,630 Abel Kipchumba: Half Marathon for New York, I was training for Marathon, 628 00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:31,830 Abel Kipchumba: but I was well- prepared for myself because you must 629 00:31:32,130 --> 00:31:36,990 Abel Kipchumba: prepare your psychology. And when I reached here, the course 630 00:31:36,990 --> 00:31:44,370 Abel Kipchumba: was changed, not like for the last year and today the field was so strong, that 631 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:48,570 Abel Kipchumba: helped me to push more and then I ran that 59: 632 00:31:49,290 --> 00:31:54,120 Abel Kipchumba: 09. But when I compare for last year and this year, 633 00:31:55,410 --> 00:32:06,750 Abel Kipchumba: this last year was cold, so cold. But this year is cold, but it has a lot of mist. But that cannot 634 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:11,070 Abel Kipchumba: affect the race. The race, when somebody is ready, you 635 00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:17,220 Abel Kipchumba: are ready. So, that made me today run well. 636 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:22,170 Carrie Tollefson: Let's hear about your strategy coming in. Did you have 637 00:32:22,170 --> 00:32:25,800 Carrie Tollefson: a strategy to sit and push at a certain moment? 638 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,550 Carrie Tollefson: Last year you made a move around 15K, this year it 639 00:32:29,550 --> 00:32:31,890 Carrie Tollefson: was pretty close to that as well. Were you thinking, 640 00:32:31,890 --> 00:32:35,850 Carrie Tollefson: I'm going to go once we get closer to Times Square? 641 00:32:37,260 --> 00:32:44,130 Abel Kipchumba: Today I see the guy who we were running together, I see 642 00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:49,200 Abel Kipchumba: he was strong, but when I reached around 17 kilometer, 643 00:32:50,190 --> 00:32:53,940 Abel Kipchumba: I decided that when we continue going like this, it will 644 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:00,180 Abel Kipchumba: be tough for me to win this race. So in race, you must calculate yourself 645 00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:06,030 Abel Kipchumba: first. Yeah, and then I change. And when I was trying 646 00:33:06,030 --> 00:33:12,030 Abel Kipchumba: to move to go away, I do several zigzag and then I move. 647 00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:17,280 Carrie Tollefson: That was really interesting, Abel, you were running and you guys were kind of 648 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,709 Carrie Tollefson: running next to each other, you were one step in 649 00:33:19,710 --> 00:33:23,550 Carrie Tollefson: front of him, but then you started to zigzag, right? 650 00:33:23,550 --> 00:33:25,230 Carrie Tollefson: You started to go to one side and then to 651 00:33:25,230 --> 00:33:27,870 Carrie Tollefson: the other. Do you remember doing that? 652 00:33:28,410 --> 00:33:31,590 Abel Kipchumba: Yeah, I remember because that guy was noticing, so you must 653 00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:35,490 Abel Kipchumba: have planned yourself out to drop him and then you will be safe. 654 00:33:36,540 --> 00:33:39,270 Carrie Tollefson: You were trying to drop Conner Mantz? I said that 655 00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:41,310 Carrie Tollefson: on the broadcast. I said, " He's either going to drop 656 00:33:41,310 --> 00:33:43,920 Carrie Tollefson: Conner Mantz or he's going to use too much energy." 657 00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:46,710 Carrie Tollefson: So I was wondering what way it was going to 658 00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:49,410 Carrie Tollefson: go, because that is a risk that you took, right? 659 00:33:49,410 --> 00:33:52,920 Carrie Tollefson: I mean that could have worked for you by doing 660 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,709 Carrie Tollefson: the zigzag and putting surges in, or it could have 661 00:33:55,710 --> 00:33:59,760 Carrie Tollefson: backfired, meaning it could have caused you to run too 662 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,610 Carrie Tollefson: much or too hard at that stage. 663 00:34:02,610 --> 00:34:06,780 Abel Kipchumba: When you're running to doing zigzag, you use a lot 664 00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:10,620 Abel Kipchumba: of energy, but you must work for it that you feel your body, 665 00:34:11,759 --> 00:34:19,710 Abel Kipchumba: if you'll survive in front when you are going for a finishing line. So I decided, when I look 666 00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:23,489 Abel Kipchumba: back, I see the guy still is strong, he is following 667 00:34:23,489 --> 00:34:27,900 Abel Kipchumba: me, but I try to inject the best to be higher. 668 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,180 Abel Kipchumba: And then when I look, I says, that guy, he 669 00:34:31,140 --> 00:34:35,460 Abel Kipchumba: will be constant. The guy will run constant and I 670 00:34:35,460 --> 00:34:40,259 Abel Kipchumba: will be running constant. So that guy will not be close. So 671 00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:40,560 Abel Kipchumba: it will be hard. 672 00:34:41,700 --> 00:34:45,960 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah, Conner Mantz is a tough competitor and has run 673 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,260 Carrie Tollefson: very well, just set the American record and he doesn't 674 00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:51,570 Carrie Tollefson: like getting beat. Nobody does, right? 675 00:34:51,570 --> 00:34:55,500 Abel Kipchumba: I understand because I watched him in Houston- 676 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:56,041 Carrie Tollefson: You watched him run? 677 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,089 Abel Kipchumba: ... even before I ran this race yesterday, I review 678 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,719 Abel Kipchumba: back to follow him, to watch how he was running. 679 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,580 Abel Kipchumba: So, I see this guy is tough. 680 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,370 Carrie Tollefson: But so are you. I mean you've run the 10th 681 00:35:08,370 --> 00:35:10,230 Carrie Tollefson: fastest half- marathon ever. 682 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:10,770 Abel Kipchumba: Yeah. 683 00:35:10,830 --> 00:35:14,100 Carrie Tollefson: I mean that's pretty amazing. You walk around this big 684 00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:17,549 Carrie Tollefson: city, the Big Apple, and you know that you are 685 00:35:17,550 --> 00:35:21,719 Carrie Tollefson: the 10th fastest man on the planet in this half- 686 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,750 Carrie Tollefson: marathon. Does that give you confidence? 687 00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:35,940 Abel Kipchumba: Yes, I am confident because I have run several 59 and 58. Yeah. 688 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:40,290 Carrie Tollefson: Okay. Tell me about how this race sets you up 689 00:35:40,290 --> 00:35:43,320 Carrie Tollefson: for the Boston Marathon. You were eighth at the TCS 690 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,640 Carrie Tollefson: New York City Marathon last fall. Now you're heading into Boston. 691 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,650 Abel Kipchumba: But if I compare for last year when I was 692 00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:57,420 Abel Kipchumba: coming to New York Marathon, I didn't many long runs. 693 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,600 Abel Kipchumba: I did only a few long runs. But if I compare 694 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,540 Abel Kipchumba: for this year with Boston, I did a lot of long runs. 695 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,410 Carrie Tollefson: So you've done a lot of long runs heading in? 696 00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:14,520 Abel Kipchumba: I think even for Boston, I have a lot of 697 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,879 Abel Kipchumba: confidence. We will go out there and we see what 698 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,300 Abel Kipchumba: next they will be. 699 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:22,379 Carrie Tollefson: I mean I can see this glimmer in your eye, the 700 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:27,090 Carrie Tollefson: smile is huge, I wish everyone could see it. When you 701 00:36:27,090 --> 00:36:30,570 Carrie Tollefson: talk to me about Boston, what do you think? I want 702 00:36:30,570 --> 00:36:30,811 Carrie Tollefson: to win it? 703 00:36:30,810 --> 00:36:36,899 Abel Kipchumba: No, no. You know Boston is a tactical game and 704 00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:41,580 Abel Kipchumba: Boston is hard. It is for every time, weather can 705 00:36:41,580 --> 00:36:46,980 Abel Kipchumba: change. When we say Boston is for anybody race, anybody 706 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:47,911 Abel Kipchumba: can win. 707 00:36:47,911 --> 00:36:48,181 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. 708 00:36:48,450 --> 00:36:48,689 Abel Kipchumba: Yeah? 709 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,890 Carrie Tollefson: Yeah. The survival of the fittest there, that's a tough 710 00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:55,320 Carrie Tollefson: course, but much like this, you get to see some 711 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,540 Carrie Tollefson: hills, you have some flats and things like that. Today 712 00:36:57,540 --> 00:37:02,460 Carrie Tollefson: you tackled those later stages in Central Park really well, 713 00:37:02,489 --> 00:37:05,130 Carrie Tollefson: it almost looked like you attacked the hills. Did you 714 00:37:05,130 --> 00:37:07,290 Carrie Tollefson: feel really strong over the hills today? 715 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,600 Abel Kipchumba: Yes, I feel very strong. 716 00:37:10,170 --> 00:37:12,090 Carrie Tollefson: Oh, what are you going to do to celebrate? I mean 717 00:37:12,090 --> 00:37:14,820 Carrie Tollefson: you have to celebrate today's win. So are you doing 718 00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:18,180 Carrie Tollefson: anything in the city? You going to have some ice cream 719 00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:22,860 Carrie Tollefson: today? What do you do to celebrate? I mean I know 720 00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:28,500 Carrie Tollefson: you do. Your agent is sitting next to you, I 721 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,960 Carrie Tollefson: wonder if I can ask Stavor what do you do to celebrate? 722 00:37:31,890 --> 00:37:32,940 Abel Kipchumba: Maybe he know himself. 723 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,069 Carrie Tollefson: Oh, well, congratulations on everything. This has been really fun. 724 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,259 Carrie Tollefson: You don't get to see a two- time winner of 725 00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:43,380 Carrie Tollefson: the United Airlines NYC Half very often. So we're sitting 726 00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:45,060 Carrie Tollefson: in rare company. Congratulations. 727 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:45,509 Abel Kipchumba: Thank you. 728 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:47,910 Carrie Tollefson: Thanks everybody for joining us today at the Set the 729 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:52,560 Carrie Tollefson: Pace Podcast. Wow. 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