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Athletes on 0:00:33.300 --> 0:00:33.900 your mark. 0:00:36.030 --> 0:00:39.599 The first woman to finish for the second straight year 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.200 here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.650 Miki Gorman, and why not. 2: 29-30, the time for good advice. 0:00:47.970 --> 0:00:50.610 Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes 0:00:50.610 --> 0:00:51.360 to the line. 0:00:51.510 --> 0:00:55.020 Pointing to his chest, pointed to the USA he so 0:00:55.020 --> 0:01:04.140 proudly wears across his. A great day for Meb Keflezighi. 0:01:04.140 --> 0:01:07.289 Hey everybody, and welcome to a special edition of Set 0:01:07.290 --> 0:01:10.380 the Pace presented by Peloton. I'm Rob Simmelkjaer, the CEO 0:01:10.380 --> 0:01:13.530 of New York Roadrunners, and today is the Champions Edition 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.649 of the TCS New York City Marathon. We've got all 0:01:16.650 --> 0:01:19.650 four winners from today's race with us, and they were 0:01:19.650 --> 0:01:22.860 incredible races. Three races came right down to the very 0:01:22.860 --> 0:01:26.700 last stretch in Central Park. We had two first- Time 0:01:26.700 --> 0:01:29.970 Abbott World Marathon major winners, and a major upset in 0:01:29.970 --> 0:01:33.120 the men's wheelchair division as well. On the women's Wheelchair 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.970 side, it was domination. So let's get right to it. 0:01:35.970 --> 0:01:39.900 We've got four great conversations with Abdi Nageeye, our men's champion, 0:01:40.020 --> 0:01:43.500 Sheila Chepkirui on the women's side, and then two Americans 0:01:43.500 --> 0:01:48.270 in the wheelchair division, Susannah Scaroni, and Daniel Romanchuk. The 0:01:48.270 --> 0:01:52.650 men's champion in the 2024 TCS, New York City Marathon, Abdi 0:01:52.650 --> 0:01:56.730 Nageeye from the Netherlands. Abdi, congratulations on the win. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:58.290 Thank you so much. Thank you. 0:01:58.410 --> 0:02:00.960 All right, so this is your fourth time coming to 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.230 New York to run this marathon. You've been top five 0:02:04.260 --> 0:02:07.320 every single time, but today was the day you broke 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.150 through for the win. What was the difference today that 0:02:09.150 --> 0:02:10.650 was able to get you to break the tape? 0:02:11.790 --> 0:02:14.790 Actually very hard lesson and a little bit sad story, 0:02:15.300 --> 0:02:18.989 because of the Olympics, I failed so badly in Paris 0:02:19.020 --> 0:02:22.410 for myself. I was able there to go for the 0:02:22.410 --> 0:02:25.530 win, but my preparation, I tried too many new things 0:02:26.340 --> 0:02:30.540 and two weeks before the Olympics I did 20K tempo 0:02:31.500 --> 0:02:34.230 with exact the same time that I did when I 0:02:34.230 --> 0:02:37.500 was in winning the marathon in April in '24. But 0:02:37.500 --> 0:02:41.280 I knew something is wrong. I just felt, oh my 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:45.330 God, I did something wrong. And you can't make it good 0:02:45.330 --> 0:02:47.070 because it's two weeks to go. You have to taper 0:02:47.070 --> 0:02:49.710 now. And I knew I was going there with two 0:02:49.710 --> 0:02:53.639 zero behind. It was so painful and so hard. Even if 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:59.070 I won silver medal, the previous Olympics in Tokyo in 0:02:59.070 --> 0:03:01.770 amazing way, but still it was hurting me so much. 0:03:01.770 --> 0:03:04.230 I was like, you know what? Let me go back to Kenya. 0:03:04.740 --> 0:03:07.800 I called my manager Valentine and Yuri. I told them 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:09.930 I want to go to New York, and they said, " 0:03:09.930 --> 0:03:13.020 It's actually already there for you." So I went back. 0:03:13.770 --> 0:03:15.570 Every day I was thinking about Paris, but every day 0:03:15.570 --> 0:03:19.139 I was training so good. Every track session was on 0:03:19.139 --> 0:03:23.490 the spot. And it's amazing, I tell you, that at the 0:03:23.490 --> 0:03:27.270 same time you feel something sad about it, but I 0:03:27.270 --> 0:03:29.820 was keeping moving every day. I was doing my training, 0:03:29.820 --> 0:03:34.260 my training, and I was here just for the win. 0:03:34.770 --> 0:03:38.820 I was telling Valentine, my manager, " Oh, I'm looking more 0:03:38.820 --> 0:03:40.950 forward for the next season." And he was like, " Abdi, tomorrow we 0:03:40.950 --> 0:03:44.130 have New York." " Si. I know, I know. But I think if I had three weeks 0:03:44.130 --> 0:03:47.460 more for New York, I would be in top shape. But 0:03:47.460 --> 0:03:49.680 next season, oh, I'm going to show you guys something 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.740 nice." But I did it today, so, in the biggest 0:03:52.740 --> 0:03:53.460 marathon in the world. 0:03:53.670 --> 0:03:56.010 It came a little early, didn't it? And so it 0:03:56.010 --> 0:03:59.580 happened all for you today. Do you think that what 0:03:59.580 --> 0:04:02.910 happened in Paris and you had a DNF there because of 0:04:02.910 --> 0:04:06.240 how you felt, you saved some energy obviously because of 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.040 that. You didn't have to expend the amount of energy 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.410 you would have if you had maybe won a medal 0:04:10.650 --> 0:04:12.810 in Paris. And so maybe compared to some of the 0:04:12.810 --> 0:04:15.570 other runners in the race, the defending champion, Tamirat Tola, 0:04:15.780 --> 0:04:19.500 won gold but wasn't quite there today to have that 0:04:19.500 --> 0:04:22.200 energy left. Did it help you, in a strange way, to 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.020 have not been able to give everything you had in Paris? 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.200 Absolutely. I'm very true about that. I'm very honest, I 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.140 mean, about that, because I was reading everyone and I 0:04:31.140 --> 0:04:33.539 realized, oh my God, here are the last six- year 0:04:33.540 --> 0:04:42.539 champions. But look at each one, the winner of 2021, oh 0:04:42.540 --> 0:04:45.419 my god, I'm so bad in names. For that guy, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.830 I knew, okay, he can beat me in speed. Chebet, 0:04:49.890 --> 0:04:53.250 he had a little bit tough half year. Tola and 0:04:53.250 --> 0:04:57.210 Bashir, they finished the Olympics. Geoffrey Kamworor is also coming 0:04:57.210 --> 0:05:02.250 from a tough time. Even me, I had one month 0:05:02.250 --> 0:05:06.060 off, but I was like, I think I'm more hungry 0:05:06.060 --> 0:05:09.870 than them because when you win medal, all this ceremony 0:05:09.870 --> 0:05:11.729 you have to do, all this, all that. You go 0:05:11.730 --> 0:05:14.430 a little bit later, you become the focus, you will 0:05:14.430 --> 0:05:17.550 find later. And I was able to find the real 0:05:17.550 --> 0:05:20.160 focus in four or five weeks, which is even late. 0:05:20.820 --> 0:05:23.580 But still, I think I was more hungry than them. 0:05:24.060 --> 0:05:28.710 Yeah. The marathon season can fall out in different ways. 0:05:29.010 --> 0:05:31.080 Each race can have an effect on the next race, 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.750 and so sometimes the chips just fall into place for 0:05:33.750 --> 0:05:36.810 someone, and today they fell into place for you. And 0:05:36.810 --> 0:05:39.450 New York really seems to be a place you're quite 0:05:39.450 --> 0:05:42.690 comfortable running. What is it about this course that has 0:05:42.690 --> 0:05:44.820 brought out the best in you, not just today, but the 0:05:44.820 --> 0:05:45.960 other times you've run as well? 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.850 To be honest, from my opinion, three defeat. Because the 0:05:50.850 --> 0:05:54.480 other three marathons, two of them, I was defeated actually 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.420 at 25K, I think it's the Brooklyn Bridge. The long 0:05:57.420 --> 0:06:01.679 one. Chebet was flying there 2022. I was like, oh, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.430 this guy's a leaf. And I tried to follow him 0:06:05.430 --> 0:06:07.170 and then at the end I stopped because I looked 0:06:07.170 --> 0:06:10.200 back and we had 150 meter gap from the other group. 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.659 We were sprinting there. And today even he was sprinting 0:06:12.660 --> 0:06:15.419 there crazy. I heard (inaudible) mile 420, which is 0:06:15.420 --> 0:06:19.860 crazy. So my goal was I'll not be defeated at 0:06:19.860 --> 0:06:23.310 the bridge, and my race, actually I was keeping second all the 0:06:23.610 --> 0:06:26.460 time. It was under 36 kilometers. That was my race. I was 0:06:26.850 --> 0:06:29.760 like, if I'm a 36, I'll win the race. So I 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.420 was thinking in term of cyclings, they have two big 0:06:33.420 --> 0:06:37.409 climb, let's say 150 kilometers, a hundred meters to a hundred kilometers to go. 0:06:37.650 --> 0:06:40.200 But some guys will say, if I survive that hill 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.080 and I don't let go of the group, I'll win even 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.420 if it's 50 kilometers to go. So me, I was like, even 0:06:45.420 --> 0:06:48.240 if the race have to start, marathon start at 36, at 35, 0:06:48.810 --> 0:06:52.710 I will be there at 36. The last drink. And I 0:06:52.710 --> 0:06:54.330 was holding, I think the last one to drink there, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.479 taking my gel, my drink, and I was like, okay, my race starting 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.089 now and I'm going to win. So that was my 0:07:00.089 --> 0:07:02.880 two homework, and from hard lessons I have learned. 0:07:03.450 --> 0:07:06.719 I love the mental preparation that you had, the plan 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.700 that you had. I love the fact that you even 0:07:08.700 --> 0:07:12.450 talk about cycling and taking that approach to a marathon. 0:07:12.450 --> 0:07:14.040 And with the hills we have here in New York, 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.040 it makes a lot of sense. So clearly the mental 0:07:17.250 --> 0:07:19.860 game, you were on it, you were really on it 0:07:19.860 --> 0:07:21.510 today, and that clearly was a big part of why 0:07:21.510 --> 0:07:22.530 you were so successful. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.560 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And also another thing was I really wanted 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.710 any funny escapes, like last time with the Brazilian guy. 0:07:28.980 --> 0:07:32.130 So even if someone tries, and I know they are 0:07:32.130 --> 0:07:35.070 not the five winners, with the all due respect, they 0:07:35.070 --> 0:07:38.070 will be less league than me. But I was like, okay, no fun 0:07:38.070 --> 0:07:40.260 and games. I let them know I'm here and the 0:07:40.260 --> 0:07:43.470 group will come behind me. They will go again. I 0:07:43.470 --> 0:07:45.480 will close the gap very quick. And also like, you 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.060 are better close now than if you are with the 0:07:48.060 --> 0:07:50.730 group that are closing, even they have to use another speed 0:07:51.060 --> 0:07:53.190 when they're closing to us, that means we are running 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:57.210 easier. So I prefer that I put my closing earlier, 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:01.140 my speed, than later. So I was like, no funny 0:08:01.140 --> 0:08:03.630 escapes. I will wait for the big guys. And when 0:08:03.630 --> 0:08:05.250 Tola was coming, I was like, okay, the race is starting now. 0:08:05.250 --> 0:08:06.510 Yes, yes. Exactly. 0:08:06.510 --> 0:08:09.480 So I was pretending like I'm commentator when I was 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.720 running. I was commentating myself in the race. I was like, okay, now 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.900 the big guys are coming. The real work is starting 0:08:15.900 --> 0:08:18.420 now. Chebet, Tola, Geoffrey. Okay. Okay. 0:08:18.420 --> 0:08:19.950 I love it. I love it. We should put a 0:08:19.950 --> 0:08:21.780 mic on you some time and let you talk during 0:08:21.780 --> 0:08:23.940 the race, give commentary while you run. I think you'd 0:08:23.940 --> 0:08:26.730 be pretty good at it. You're very, very good at talking 0:08:26.730 --> 0:08:29.160 about this. Talk a bit about you and your story, 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.110 for those who don't know you, as a first time 0:08:31.110 --> 0:08:34.470 winner in New York. You moved to Ethiopia, sorry, to 0:08:34.590 --> 0:08:36.990 the Netherlands I should say, at the age of six 0:08:36.990 --> 0:08:40.559 years old. What brought you to the Netherlands and how 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.890 has your life evolved since that time in your childhood? 0:08:43.980 --> 0:08:47.699 Yeah, first of all, I'm like Nomad. I'm Nomad person and 0:08:47.700 --> 0:08:51.600 my generations, my family were nomads, camel nomads. So they 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.251 were moving with their camels where rain was. 0:08:53.251 --> 0:08:53.581 Nomads. Nomads. 0:08:54.330 --> 0:08:58.590 Nomads, yes. And I still have that in my life. We 0:08:58.590 --> 0:09:01.950 had civil war sadly in Somalia. It was an amazing country 0:09:02.700 --> 0:09:06.329 with a dictator and we had a very bad civil war. So we 0:09:06.330 --> 0:09:10.740 went to Netherlands for better life and then I had a brother 0:09:10.740 --> 0:09:15.120 who decided he didn't want to stay in the Netherlands. So we moved, 0:09:15.300 --> 0:09:19.050 we went to Syria, when it was safe, in 1999. 0:09:19.290 --> 0:09:20.940 So I was still in primary school when we left 0:09:20.940 --> 0:09:23.910 the Netherlands, only after four years. We stayed there for 0:09:23.910 --> 0:09:27.689 three years. Then we went back to Somalia. I stayed there for 0:09:27.690 --> 0:09:29.790 two years and by that time I was like 15 years 0:09:29.790 --> 0:09:33.030 old and I went back to farming with my father. 0:09:33.450 --> 0:09:36.960 And I remember one day the farm was growing. Still, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.780 I still like farming. So we had melons and maize, 0:09:39.929 --> 0:09:41.520 but then I was like, this is not the life 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.360 I want. You know? You have three acres, you eat 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.120 this next after three months you have to put it 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:52.980 again. There's no challenge. I want to go to school. I want 0:09:52.980 --> 0:09:55.260 to be a lawyer. I want to be something. And as 0:09:55.890 --> 0:10:00.480 15, 14 years old, in the farm alone, with greens 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.220 and river and everything, and I was just thinking by 0:10:02.220 --> 0:10:05.280 myself and I decided to go back to the Netherlands. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.460 I went to Ethiopia, to the embassy of the Netherlands, 0:10:08.700 --> 0:10:11.160 I told them I used to live in the Netherlands. My brother brought 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.740 me back. I want to go back. But they were like, " 0:10:13.740 --> 0:10:15.600 No, you're a teenager. You're not allowed to go back. 0:10:16.410 --> 0:10:19.290 You need a family." So I found a Dutch family 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.200 who were there in Addis for vacation. I met them, 0:10:22.500 --> 0:10:24.600 they're still my best friends. I was just calling them after 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.490 I called my wife. They were the second I called. 0:10:26.610 --> 0:10:27.090 Wow. 0:10:27.900 --> 0:10:30.645 Their kids are so they got Somalis names. They came from 0:10:30.645 --> 0:10:33.690 a small village, all white village. And they took me 0:10:33.690 --> 0:10:35.790 in their home and I know all the village there, 0:10:35.790 --> 0:10:38.940 everyone I know there. I stayed with them two, three 0:10:38.940 --> 0:10:41.400 years. And because of them I started running because it was 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:45.809 a typical Dutch birthday celebration. And a family member said, " 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.469 I hear you play football and you're very fast. You have a vocation, 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:51.630 so can you come run with me?" I was like, " 0:10:51.750 --> 0:10:54.300 Run? What do you mean run?" " Yeah, we run, we train." 0:10:54.300 --> 0:10:56.100 I said, " But what do you mean, like go to the 0:10:56.100 --> 0:10:59.520 field for two laps?" "No, no, no, we just go from 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.140 this place to that place.' I said,- 0:11:01.140 --> 0:11:01.471 Run the roads. 0:11:01.471 --> 0:11:07.470 ..." What is that?" That world was closed for me. I just knew football, 0:11:08.580 --> 0:11:09.450 Soccer in Holland. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:09.481 Yes. 0:11:09.481 --> 0:11:14.459 So I was like, "What do you mean running?" And then Yantina, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.980 the family, her mother, she was like, "Abdi, go with him, go 0:11:16.980 --> 0:11:20.160 with him." And I said, " I'm not going." Then he said, " There's 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.520 a small race in the the village next to us next week 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:28.170 on Sunday, come with me." And I went there and 0:11:28.740 --> 0:11:32.309 I literally wasn't warming up. I didn't do warming up. I was like, " I will get tired." So 0:11:32.309 --> 0:11:35.520 I was hiding myself somewhere. And then I started the race, 0:11:36.300 --> 0:11:39.510 the whole family came, the grandmother, all my family, my 0:11:39.510 --> 0:11:42.420 new family, and I was just thinking to survive that 0:11:42.420 --> 0:11:45.630 five kilometers, not to be embarrassed. So during the race 0:11:45.630 --> 0:11:48.210 I was telling the people, " How long is it going?" Or, " Which 0:11:48.210 --> 0:11:50.880 kilometer are we?" And they were seeing me, this skinny 0:11:51.210 --> 0:11:53.910 looking Ethiopian guy and all the runners, they know Kenyans 0:11:53.910 --> 0:11:55.830 and Ethiopians, they were thinking I was making fun of 0:11:55.830 --> 0:11:58.709 them, but I was serious about where's the finish and 0:11:58.710 --> 0:12:02.010 how long it's taking and I was just talking. And I ran 17 minute, I think, 0:12:02.700 --> 0:12:03.360 I win the race. 0:12:03.750 --> 0:12:04.111 You ran 17 minutes? 0:12:04.111 --> 0:12:04.112 17 minutes. 0:12:04.112 --> 0:12:07.559 In your first ever road race in a 5K? 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.679 Yeah, with just gym shoes. And from there, oh my god, it was 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.520 love at the first sight. That small finish, sprint to the 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:19.350 finish, I still have the picture. And yeah, it was, 0:12:19.620 --> 0:12:21.780 wow. When the guy asked me, " What's your running club?" " 0:12:21.870 --> 0:12:23.730 What's your club?", he said. And I told him the 0:12:23.730 --> 0:12:28.979 soccer club. He's like, " What's the name?" He never heard that, but he wanted to 0:12:28.980 --> 0:12:31.170 hear a running club. 0:12:31.170 --> 0:12:31.171 Incredible. 0:12:31.171 --> 0:12:34.650 I never had a running club. From there, in less than 0:12:34.650 --> 0:12:38.370 three months, I decided to run full. If I want 0:12:38.370 --> 0:12:40.860 to do I go full for it. And I was like, I 0:12:40.860 --> 0:12:42.570 think it's my destiny. That's what I was looking for. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:47.010 It was clearly your destiny. That's an incredible story. Amazing 0:12:47.010 --> 0:12:49.920 the difference that a person can make just suggesting something 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.579 like that. And now here you are champion of the TCS, New 0:12:53.580 --> 0:12:56.520 York City Marathon. And the club that you run with 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.490 now, an actual running club, the NN Club is one that 0:12:59.700 --> 0:13:05.429 has some pretty prestigious runners alongside you as well. You've 0:13:05.429 --> 0:13:09.120 run with Eliud Kipchoge, among others. What has being a 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.510 part of that and running with a guy like Kipchoge 0:13:13.170 --> 0:13:15.990 and learning from him, what has that done for you as 0:13:15.990 --> 0:13:19.110 a runner to mature everything that you know about the sport? 0:13:19.140 --> 0:13:21.990 It'll sound that I'm trying to get credit of Eliud, 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.140 but I think he was the reason I won today in 0:13:25.140 --> 0:13:28.530 New York. Because when I knew what I did wrong 0:13:28.830 --> 0:13:32.069 in Paris, I knew the training program of Kaptagat. When 0:13:32.070 --> 0:13:34.470 I was there with Eliud and Coach Patrick Sang, that 0:13:34.470 --> 0:13:38.250 was my program. That is the program I can respond well. And I was like, " 0:13:38.250 --> 0:13:40.890 Why I didn't do it?" And I did that program for 0:13:40.890 --> 0:13:45.959 I think 80%. The other 20% (inaudible) , but 80% 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.689 it was the way Eliud trains, he don't change things. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.728 It's like why did you change? Look at Eliud. He 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.209 will win London in amazing time. He will come back 0:13:54.330 --> 0:13:58.001 and do the same what he did. Winning Berlin, (inaudible) 0:13:58.001 --> 0:13:59.910 , coming back doing the same what he did. Winning 0:13:59.910 --> 0:14:02.100 Tokyo coming back. Winning Olympic champ. I was there when 0:14:02.100 --> 0:14:05.190 he was doing breaking two in EOS all the time, 0:14:05.190 --> 0:14:08.459 for four years long. You never see him changing anything. 0:14:08.970 --> 0:14:11.550 And I was so, so angry to myself, " Why did 0:14:11.550 --> 0:14:15.270 you change?" And I was looking like I was taking 0:14:15.270 --> 0:14:18.960 example of him and I did his program for 80%. And 0:14:19.110 --> 0:14:22.500 so yeah, big inspire friend, and inspiring guy for me. 0:14:22.650 --> 0:14:25.950 Wow. It's just so interesting to listen to the learning 0:14:25.950 --> 0:14:30.000 process and you clearly have learned a lot. You've learned 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.750 from yourself and your challenges. When you have a failure, 0:14:33.750 --> 0:14:37.230 you take something from it. You've learned from Kipchoge. So 0:14:37.590 --> 0:14:40.740 everything you've figured out and you put together this win 0:14:40.740 --> 0:14:43.080 here today. I can't wait to see what you're going 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.170 to do going forward because you clearly have figured this 0:14:46.170 --> 0:14:48.630 out and you have the talent. What do you want to 0:14:48.630 --> 0:14:51.390 do next? What's next in your list of goals? 0:14:51.660 --> 0:14:54.870 Actually, I was telling my manager yesterday that I'm looking forward 0:14:54.870 --> 0:14:57.300 for the next season. I'm looking forward to running very 0:14:57.300 --> 0:15:00.960 fast times to win majors. I think I've got the 0:15:00.990 --> 0:15:04.680 formula now, but also Michael was telling me, he's a very experienced coach, 0:15:04.830 --> 0:15:07.770 he said, " The moment you figure out everything, it's almost 0:15:07.770 --> 0:15:10.320 your finishing time. Your finishing area. Then you got age 0:15:11.190 --> 0:15:15.720 when you finish because of the experience." So we said, " Bill, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.510 you are a little bit lucky that you already tried so 0:15:18.510 --> 0:15:21.000 many things." I was never afraid to try new things 0:15:21.300 --> 0:15:23.910 and every failure I was coming back after every failure. 0:15:24.270 --> 0:15:28.410 So I hope I have three years with less mistakes and 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.260 that I can go with this formula for the next 0:15:31.290 --> 0:15:33.480 couple of seasons until the next Olympics in LA. 0:15:33.690 --> 0:15:36.690 I like your chances and I congratulate you on your 0:15:36.690 --> 0:15:38.670 win today Abdi. We're thrilled to have you as our 0:15:38.670 --> 0:15:41.880 new champion in New York. All the best and enjoy this. 0:15:41.970 --> 0:15:42.720 Thank you so much. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.860 And we are here with TCS New York City Marathon 0:15:46.860 --> 0:15:52.440 women's champion, Sheila Chepkirui from Kenya. Sheila, you won this 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.920 race in your first ever time out here in the 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.250 New York City Marathon. How did you do it? First 0:15:59.250 --> 0:15:59.880 time winner. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.940 First of all I went thank God. Secondly, I'm so happy. I think 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:13.260 I did it because of my training. My training was 0:16:13.590 --> 0:16:16.890 going on well in Kenya. After I did the mini 0:16:16.890 --> 0:16:23.100 10K, I had a privilege to go and start from 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.470 bridge up to the finish. 0:16:25.500 --> 0:16:26.851 You ran the last 10 miles, right? 0:16:26.851 --> 0:16:26.852 Yes. 0:16:26.852 --> 0:16:30.270 Of the marathon course when you were here in June to 0:16:30.270 --> 0:16:31.381 run the MasterCard mini 10K. 0:16:31.381 --> 0:16:31.382 Yes. 0:16:31.382 --> 0:16:34.980 So you had a little idea of what was in store for you? 0:16:34.980 --> 0:16:39.090 Yes, and I thought the course was amazing. I'm really 0:16:39.090 --> 0:16:41.010 happy for the win today. 0:16:41.610 --> 0:16:44.850 Tell me, when did you think you had this race 0:16:44.850 --> 0:16:48.900 won? This was so close all the way through. There 0:16:48.900 --> 0:16:51.030 was a pack together for a long time and then 0:16:51.030 --> 0:16:53.370 really down to the last mile or two, it was 0:16:53.370 --> 0:16:57.750 you Helen Obiri, our defending champion, going at it head- to- 0:16:57.750 --> 0:17:00.390 head. When did you feel that it was going to 0:17:00.390 --> 0:17:01.170 be your day? 0:17:02.430 --> 0:17:08.220 Around one mile to go. Helen tried to push and I 0:17:08.820 --> 0:17:13.020 pushed and she was not responding, and when we were at 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:18.510 around 600 meters to go, I pushed and Ellen didn't come. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:24.419 And at 400 meters to go, I knew I'm going to 0:17:24.420 --> 0:17:24.720 win it. 0:17:25.410 --> 0:17:28.080 Yes. And I was at the finish line and saw 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.140 you come into sight and yeah, Helen was a good 0:17:31.140 --> 0:17:33.330 bit behind you at that point. So you just had 0:17:33.330 --> 0:17:36.959 that little bit extra. Sheila you've been knocking on the 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:41.490 door in major marathons recently. You're a top five finisher 0:17:41.700 --> 0:17:46.320 in both Berlin and London in 2023. You were sixth 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.160 in London earlier this year. So this has been coming, 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.189 this breakthrough. Did you feel when you flew to New 0:17:53.190 --> 0:17:56.369 York for this race that perhaps this would be the 0:17:56.369 --> 0:17:57.810 day for you to win a major? 0:17:59.790 --> 0:18:04.590 I knew I was going to do well, but because Helen, 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:11.100 Sharon, was from Paris, I knew they were a little tired. For 0:18:11.100 --> 0:18:17.340 me, I was fresh and I knew I am going to do something. 0:18:18.060 --> 0:18:20.430 Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Just that little 0:18:20.430 --> 0:18:22.619 bit of extra rest that you had not running the 0:18:22.619 --> 0:18:24.990 Olympics, maybe it was what you needed. We saw a 0:18:24.990 --> 0:18:28.230 bit of that on the men's side as well. So 0:18:28.350 --> 0:18:31.080 talk about New York. This is now your second time 0:18:31.109 --> 0:18:34.410 ever here after coming this summer. Do you like the city? What 0:18:34.410 --> 0:18:37.919 is it like for you to compete here, to get 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.409 the energy from the crowds we have on the streets 0:18:40.410 --> 0:18:41.730 here? How do you like this city? 0:18:42.210 --> 0:18:45.148 The city of New York is amazing. The crowd all 0:18:45.148 --> 0:18:48.570 the way it was so amazing. Really nice to be here. 0:18:49.650 --> 0:18:51.869 I think you're going to like it a lot more now 0:18:51.869 --> 0:18:55.050 as you come away with this championship. Maybe you'll want 0:18:55.290 --> 0:18:57.690 to come back. And I want to hear about your 0:18:57.690 --> 0:19:00.119 life in Kenya. This is the first time I've met 0:19:00.510 --> 0:19:04.050 a champion of a marathon who is also an active 0:19:04.050 --> 0:19:07.290 member of the military. You are a corporal in the 0:19:07.290 --> 0:19:09.030 Kenyan Defense Force, is that right? 0:19:09.180 --> 0:19:10.200 Yes, that's right. 0:19:10.290 --> 0:19:11.160 What is your job? 0:19:13.290 --> 0:19:22.920 In Kenya I joined KDF forces through sports. They employed 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:30.540 me because I was an athlete. So in KDF I'm 0:19:30.540 --> 0:19:37.619 in the sights of sports and they support us. They give 0:19:37.619 --> 0:19:42.300 us time for training and I'm grateful to defend forces. 0:19:42.390 --> 0:19:44.310 Yeah, I was going to say it must be so 0:19:44.310 --> 0:19:46.740 hard to balance those things, but you really are using 0:19:46.740 --> 0:19:49.830 your success in sports to help train people in the 0:19:49.830 --> 0:19:52.139 military, which makes a lot of sense. It's going to 0:19:52.140 --> 0:19:54.060 be very exciting for you now to come back to 0:19:54.060 --> 0:19:57.330 Kenya, not just with your family, your six- year- old 0:19:57.330 --> 0:20:00.090 daughter as well, but also with your fellow members of 0:20:00.090 --> 0:20:03.840 the military. And what about your daughter and your husband 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.520 back home? Have you had a chance to communicate with them at 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:06.869 all since he won the race? 0:20:06.869 --> 0:20:09.479 Yes I have. They are so excited. 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.869 I can imagine. I can imagine how excited they must 0:20:12.869 --> 0:20:15.270 be. And I know it hasn't been easy for you 0:20:15.450 --> 0:20:17.879 to get to New York. You had some immigration problems 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.410 in the past, but we were able to get you 0:20:19.410 --> 0:20:21.689 here. And so maybe next time you come back and 0:20:21.690 --> 0:20:24.450 defend your championship here, you can bring your family along 0:20:24.450 --> 0:20:24.898 as well. 0:20:25.530 --> 0:20:26.100 Of course, yes. 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.609 It must be so exciting. And this was clearly a 0:20:29.609 --> 0:20:31.949 race you dug deep for, right? You really had to 0:20:31.950 --> 0:20:36.209 find everything deep down inside to win this. What do you 0:20:36.210 --> 0:20:38.400 think this will mean for you in the future as 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.460 you look ahead to your career? Do you think this 0:20:41.460 --> 0:20:44.129 will help you build on this and maybe become a 0:20:44.130 --> 0:20:46.080 multi major winner? What do you want to do next? 0:20:46.410 --> 0:20:57.389 Yes, this is so... I'm so happy. This is a milestone. This 0:20:57.780 --> 0:21:07.260 keep me moving for more wins in the future. So I have to go back and work extra hard. 0:21:07.710 --> 0:21:10.590 Because it's not easy when you are a Kenyan marathon 0:21:10.590 --> 0:21:14.400 runner to break through. I mean, there are so much 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:18.300