WEBVTT - Running with the Stars: Alan Bersten LIVE at the RBC Brooklyn Half

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<v Alan Bersten>Something  that I  say  on  the  show  all  the  time  to 

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<v Alan Bersten>the  celebrities  I  dance  with  is, " You  can  do  anything. 

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<v Alan Bersten>If  you  apply  yourself,  you  can  succeed."  And  this is  a 

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<v Alan Bersten>huge  testament  to  that.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hello  everybody, and  welcome  to  Set  the  Pace,  a  special  episode 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  the  official  podcast  of New York Road  Runners,  presented  by  Peloton.  I'm 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  host  and  the  CEO  of  New  York  Road  Runners, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Rob  Simmelkjaer,  and  we  are  here  live  at  Maimonides  ballpark. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  right. It's  the  official  RBC  Brooklyn  Half  After- Party,  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>what  a  party  it  is.  This  field  and  this  stadium 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>are  absolutely  packed  with  people  with  this  beautiful  RBC  Brooklyn 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Half  medal  hanging  around  their  necks.  Congratulations  to  everybody  who 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>finished  today.  It  was  a  warm  day,  it  was a bit of a  humid 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>day,  but  it  was  a  great  day, and  you  guys  all 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>deserve  those  medals,  so  congratulations  to  each  and  every  one 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  you.
 All  right,  before  we  bring  up  our  amazing 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>guest  today,  I want  to  give  a  shout- out  to  our 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>friends  at  RBC,  which  has  been  both  the  exclusive  title 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>partner  and  exclusive  financial  service  partner  and  investment  banking  partner 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  the  RBC  Brooklyn  Half  for  four  consecutive  years.  As 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  purpose- driven  global  financial  institution,  RBC,  just  like  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  Road  Runners,  is  strongly  committed  to  giving  back  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>communities.  I'm  sure  you  saw  the  great  run  inspired  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>RBC  giant  inspiration  wall  at the  RBC  Brooklyn  Half  Pre- Party, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>presented  by  New  Balance.  And  of  course,  the  photo  booth 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>where  so  many  of  you  turned  yourselves  into  custom  trading 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>cars.
 Quick  reminder,  by  the  way.  Every  time  you  share 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  of  those  trading  cars  on  social,  hashtag # RBCBrooklynHalf,  RBC's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>going  to  donate  one  dollar  to  the  National  Alliance  on 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Mental  Illness,  NAMI.  So  it's  Mental  Health  Awareness  Month,  we 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>want  to  thank  RBC.  Make  sure  you  check  out  the  RBC-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>branded  finish  line  photo  booth,  which  is  out there in the  field  somewhere. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Get  that  photo  here  at  the  after  party,  and  thank 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  again  to  our  friends  at  RBC.
 All  right,  our 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>guests  today  are  incredible.  I  had  a  chance  to  meet, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>right  before  the  race,  the  one  and  only  Dancing  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Stars  dancer  Alan  Bersten,  who  is  here  with  me 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  stage.  Alan  just  ran  his  first  ever  half- marathon 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  his  life,  and  we're  going  to  talk  to  him 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>about  that  incredible  achievement.  And  then  with  us  right  after 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Alan  is  going  to  be  Kim  Conley,  our  two- time 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Olympian,  and came into  this  as a  defending 2024  RBC  Brooklyn  Half  champion.  We'll 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>talk  about  her  race  today  and  what  happened  out  there 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  the  winner's  field, it  was  a  great  day.
 And  then 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>lastly,  we'll  have  some  exclusive  advice  from  our  partners  at 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Hospital  for  Special  Surgery,  HSS,  on  how  to  transition 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>from  running  today's  race  to  beginning  their  training  for  the 2025 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>TCS  New  York  City  Marathon.  Make  some  noise  out  there 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>if  you're  planning  to  run  the  marathon  this  year.  Who's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>running?  Who's  running the  TCS  New  York  City  Marathon,  all  right, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>well  we'll  talk  about  that  as  well,  so  don't  go  away.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  well  we're  thrilled  to  have  Alan  Bersten  here 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>with  me.  He's  best  known  for  his  standout  performances  on 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Dancing  with  the  Stars,  where  he's  been  a  pro  since 2017, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  he  won  the  mirrorball  trophy  with  Bachelorette  star  Hannah 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Brown.  He  started  dancing  at  the  age  of  seven  in 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>his  family's  Minnesota  studio,  and  he's  trained  in  styles  ranging 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>from  ballroom  dancing  to  Bollywood  dancing.  He's  done  it  all. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>He's  a  former  So  You  Think  You  Can  Dance  finalist 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  a  Dancing  with  the  Stars  Juniors  champion,  and  he 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>has  spent  years  performing  live  and  pushing  to  all  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>his  physical  limits,  especially  today.  Alan,  congratulations,  and  welcome  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Set  the Pace.

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<v Alan Bersten>Yeah, yeah.  Thank  you.  Thank  you  so  much,  this  is  so 

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<v Alan Bersten>fun.  It  was  really...  Well,  great  job  to  everyone  that 

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<v Alan Bersten>did  this.  Let's  go  with  finishers.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Well, all right.  We  got  to  ask  the  obvious  question.  You  have 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>pushed  your  body  to  the  limits  as  a  dancer.  You 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>obviously  are  a  great  athlete  to  dance  the  way  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>dance  on  that  show.  How  did  running  a  half- marathon 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  the  first  time  ever  compare  to  preparing  for  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>dancing  on  the  show  as  you  do?

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<v Alan Bersten>Absolutely  zero  comparison,  it  turns  out  that it  is  a  lot 

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<v Alan Bersten>of  fun.  I've  always  wanted  to  push  my  body,  and 

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<v Alan Bersten>a  lot  of  people  don't  consider  dancers  as  athletes,  but 

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<v Alan Bersten>I  think  this  is  a  great  opportunity  to  prove  to 

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<v Alan Bersten>myself  that  I'm  more  than  just  a  dancer.  Running  a  half-

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<v Alan Bersten>marathon  is  not  easy.  Kudos  to  everyone.  I'm  so  proud 

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<v Alan Bersten>of  myself  for  finishing,  I'm  so  proud  of  everyone  for 

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<v Alan Bersten>being  here.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Amazing,  congratulations.  What  inspired  you  to  take  this  on?  Why, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>after  all  the  success  you've  had  as  a  dancer  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>an  amazing  career  you've  created  for  yourself  as  a  dancer? 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>What  made  you  think, " This  isn't  enough.  I  got  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>take  on  a  half- marathon"?

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<v Alan Bersten>Honestly,  I  was  on  tour  and  my  (inaudible)   who 

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<v Alan Bersten>ran  this  with  me,  his  name's  Danny,  he's  like, " I'm 

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<v Alan Bersten>running  a  half- marathon  in  May."  I  was  like, " My 

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<v Alan Bersten>schedule's  free,  let  me  do  it  too."  Big  mistake.  No, 

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<v Alan Bersten>honestly  it  was  so  much  fun.  So  he's  the  one 

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<v Alan Bersten>that,  honestly,  he  did  it, so I was like, " I'm  going  to  join  him."

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  well  I  saw  you  at  the  start  and then 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  saw  you  at  the  finish  line.  Your  official  finishing 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>time  in  your  first  ever  half,  1: 38:43.  That  is 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>an  outstanding  (inaudible)   half- marathon  time.  Congratulations  on  that. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Tell  me,  take  me  through  your  race  today.  How  did 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it  feel?  Did  you  feel  strong  throughout?  It  was  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>warm  day,  were  you struggling at  any  points?  Take  us  through  it.

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<v Alan Bersten>Honestly,  I  think  the  biggest  thing  everyone  told  me  was, "

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<v Alan Bersten>Stay  hydrated,"  so  I  was  drinking  a  lot  of  water. 

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<v Alan Bersten>The  hills  in  the  beginning  are  hard.  I  was  not 

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<v Alan Bersten>used  to  that.  And then they were like, " Oh,  mile  seven.  That's  going  to 

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<v Alan Bersten>be  easy."  It  didn't  get  easy.  None  of  this  was 

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<v Alan Bersten>actually  easy  until  the  end.  But  honestly,  I  think  it 

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<v Alan Bersten>was  just  pushing.  You  know?  Everyone  around  you's  doing  it, 

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<v Alan Bersten>everyone's  cheering  you  on.  It's  a  lot  of  fun.  Ask 

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<v Alan Bersten>me in  a  few  days  if  I'll  do  another  one.  I 

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<v Alan Bersten>can  tell  you  maybe.  If  you  ask  me  right  now,  no.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  never  ask  right  afterwards.  I  never  ask at  the  finish 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>line.  That's  not  the  time to ask.

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<v Alan Bersten>Yeah,  yeah.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I've  been  there,  I  know.  But  there  is  a  question 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  of  course  will  start  to  dog  you,  just  so 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  know.  Now  that  you've  run  a  half- marathon,  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>know  the  question  is  going  to  come.  Would  you  ever 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>even  think  about  running  a  full  marathon?

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<v Alan Bersten>I  genuinely  don't  know  how  I  could  do  two  of 

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<v Alan Bersten>that.  That  was really  hard. If  I  slow  down  my  pace,  maybe. 

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<v Alan Bersten>But  yeah,  no,  what  an  accomplishment  it  is  to  finish 

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<v Alan Bersten>a full  marathon.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>What  accomplishment  to  finish  a  half  marathon.  It's  a  huge 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>accomplishment  to  have.

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<v Alan Bersten>(inaudible)   proud.  Yeah,  so  I'm going to take it  more  half  at  a  time.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  like  it.  That's  a  very  sensible  answer.  You  know, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>listen,  I  am  not  a  dancer,  so  I  have  no 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>idea  what  goes  in  to  doing  what  you  do  on 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Dancing  with  the  Stars,  but  just  watching  some  of  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>routines,  that  looks  like  a  massive  physical  challenge.  Can  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>compare  the  endurance,  the  strength?  What  do  you  think  is 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  biggest  similarity  and  difference  between  the  physical  challenge  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>dancing  at  a  high  level  and  running  13.1  miles?

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<v Alan Bersten>I  think  there's  a  few.  There's  a  dance  that's  similar, 

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<v Alan Bersten>like  a  quickstep  or  a  jive.  They're  very  fast.  You 

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<v Alan Bersten>only  have  to  do  it  for  a  minute  and  a 

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<v Alan Bersten>half,  so  it's  a  lot  easier.  I  think  this  was 

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<v Alan Bersten>more  just  mental  over  physical.  You  put  in  the  training 

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<v Alan Bersten>and  you  realize  that  as  long  as  you  just  keep 

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<v Alan Bersten>going  and  don't  stop,  you're  fine.  That  was  my  mentality 

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<v Alan Bersten>the  whole  time.  Just  keep  going,  don't  slow  down.  Because 

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<v Alan Bersten>if  I  slow  down  I'm  just  going  to  stop,  and 

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<v Alan Bersten>I  do  not  want  to  stop.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Have  you  had  a  lot  of  your  Dancing  with  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Stars  co- stars  or  your  former  partners  or  other  people 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out  there  on  social  reacting  to  your  run?

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<v Alan Bersten>Yeah,  everyone's  been  so  supportive.  My  girlfriend  actually,  she's from the  show, 

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<v Alan Bersten>and  now  she's  here  supporting,  so  that  was  nice.  Lindsay 

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<v Alan Bersten>Arnold  did  a  half- marathon,  she's  one  of  the  pros, 

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<v Alan Bersten>I  think  like  three  weeks  ago,  and  I  didn't  know 

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<v Alan Bersten>she  was  running  one,  so  that  really  inspired  me  and 

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<v Alan Bersten>she  gave  me  a  lot  of  tips.  She  was  like, "

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<v Alan Bersten>Just  hydrate  a  lot."  So  the  support's  been  incredible,  but 

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<v Alan Bersten>it's  honestly  just  running  and  seeing  all  the  people  on 

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<v Alan Bersten>the  sides  being  supportive  and  cheering  on  all  the  other 

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<v Alan Bersten>runners.  It's  just  so  fun.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  took  a  photo  with  you  at  the  start,  post 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it  on  my  social.  It  wasn't  like  five  minutes  before 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>my  teenage  daughter  was  like, " Oh  my  god,  all  my 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>friends  are  texting  me.  You  know  Alan  Bersten?  How  do 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  know  him?"  So  clearly  there's  a  following,  there's  people 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out  there  who  are  excited.  What's  your  message  to  all 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>those  folks  out  there  who  follow  you  as  a  dancer, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  about  what  you've  just  accomplished?  What  do  you  think 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  the  lesson  that  you  can  teach  all  of  them 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>from  this?

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<v Alan Bersten>Something  that  I  say  on  the  show  all  the  time 

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<v Alan Bersten>to  the  celebrities  I  dance  with  is, " You  can  do 

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<v Alan Bersten>anything.  If  you  apply  yourself,  you  can  succeed."  And  this is 

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<v Alan Bersten>a  huge  testament  to  that.  The  longest  I've  ever  ran 

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<v Alan Bersten>before  today  was  10  miles.  The  longest I  ever  ran  before 

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<v Alan Bersten>that  was  like  five  miles.  You  know?  So  it  was 

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<v Alan Bersten>more  of  just,  commit  to  it,  put  in  the  training, 

0:10:33.179 --> 0:10:36.059
<v Alan Bersten>you  put  in  the  work,  you  get  the  results,  and 

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<v Alan Bersten>my  message  is just  to  believe  in  yourself  and  do  it, 

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<v Alan Bersten>you  know?  The  worst  that  happens  is  that  you have  to 

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<v Alan Bersten>try  a  little  bit  harder  and that  you  have  to  try 

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<v Alan Bersten>again,  but  as  long  as  you  keep  going,  the  finish 

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<v Alan Bersten>line  is  there.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  let's  talk  about  Dancing  with  the  Stars  for 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  little  while.  First  of  all,  who  out  there  is 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  fan  of  the  show,  Dancing  with  the Stars? Are there  any  fans 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out  there?  (inaudible)   that  show  has  been  so  successful 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  so  many  years.  I  worked  at  ABC  Disney  when 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  show  first  went  on  the  air,  and  it  went 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  as  like  a  midsummer  replacement.

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<v Alan Bersten>Yeah.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  had  no  expectation  of  being  successful,  and  here it  is. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>How  many  seasons  now  has  that show  (inaudible)

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<v Alan Bersten>We're about to  start  season  34.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Oh  my  god,  that's  unbelievable.

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<v Alan Bersten>Yeah.  (inaudible)  Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  a  couple  seasons  a  year.  I'm  like, " I'm  not 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  old."  But  I  know  they  do  a  couple  seasons a year.

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<v Alan Bersten>(inaudible)  This is  the  20th  year  anniversary.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  incredible.  Why  do  you  think  it's  been  so  successful 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  a  franchise?

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<v Alan Bersten>You  know,  I  think  there's  something  so  endearing  about  seeing 

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<v Alan Bersten>these  incredible  celebrities  or  athletes  try  something  new,  and  that's 

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<v Alan Bersten>also  what  inspired  me  to  do  this.  I've  never  ran 

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<v Alan Bersten>before,  but  I  wanted  to  just  go  out  there,  go 

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<v Alan Bersten>out  of  my  comfort  zone.  I  think  what  makes  the 

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<v Alan Bersten>show  special  is  you  see  people  trying,  you  see  people 

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<v Alan Bersten>caring.  And  like  you  said,  your  teenage  daughter  is  a 

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<v Alan Bersten>fan.  Usually  it's, " Oh,  my  mom's  a  fan,"  so  it's 

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<v Alan Bersten>nice  that  the  teenage  daughters  are  fans  now.  But  it's 

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<v Alan Bersten>a  show  for  the  whole  family.  It's  fun  for  everyone. 

0:12:05.910 --> 0:12:08.610
<v Alan Bersten>Families  sit  down  and  we  go  on  tour,  and  there's 

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<v Alan Bersten>four  generations  that  are  watching  together,  and  it's  just  so  cool.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  incredible.  It  really  is  great  family  entertainment,  and  there's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  lot  in  common,  actually,  between  what  you  guys  do 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  that  show  and  what we do  here  at  New  York  Road 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Runners,  because  we  do  have  a  lot  of  folks,  like 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you,  who  are  stepping  out of  their  comfort  zone  to  run 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  race  like  this.  I  think  the  difference  is,  on 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Dancing  with  the  Stars,  you're  doing  it  on  primetime  television 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  front  of  tens  of  millions  of  viewers.  And  it's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>live,  right?  So  a  lot  can  go  wrong.  When  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>are  working  with  a  dancer,  a  celebrity  who's  coming  on 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  dance  with  you,  how  do  you  work  with  them 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  get  them  comfortable  and  take  them  out  of  their 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>shell  to  turn  them  into  someone  who  can  have  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>successful  performance?

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<v Alan Bersten>You  know,  I  think  comfortability  is  the  big  proponent  there. 

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<v Alan Bersten>Making  sure  you're  comfortable,  making  sure  you  believe  in  yourself. 

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<v Alan Bersten>My  job  on  top  of  teaching  somebody  to  dance  is 

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<v Alan Bersten>also  to  make  sure  they  feel  confident  and  comfortable  in 

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<v Alan Bersten>themselves,  and  I  think  the  only  way  to  do  that 

0:13:10.890 --> 0:13:14.670
<v Alan Bersten>is  with  practice,  with  repetition.  It's  a  lot  scarier  to 

0:13:14.670 --> 0:13:18.450
<v Alan Bersten>go  and  do  anything  the  first  time,  but  the  more 

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<v Alan Bersten>you  do  it,  the  easier  and  the  more  comfortable  you  get.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  you have  a  minor  in  psychology,  basically.  I  mean,  dance 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  your  major,  but  you  got  to  be  able  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>really  have  a  little  psych  work  on-

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<v Alan Bersten>A  lot  of  people  say  that  first  we're  dance  instructors, 

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<v Alan Bersten>but  then  we're  therapists.  So  there's  a  lot  that  goes 

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<v Alan Bersten>on  in  that  room.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah. I love it.  What  has  been  the  most  memorable  dance  performance  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  career  on  Dancing  with  the  Stars?  Which  one  would 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  say  has  been  your  favorite?

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<v Alan Bersten>That's  a  good  question.  My  last  partner  was  Ilona  Maher, 

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<v Alan Bersten>and  she's  so...  Give  it  up  for  Ilona  Maher.  We 

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<v Alan Bersten>did  some  really  cool  dances.  I  feel  like  our  freestyle 

0:14:00.059 --> 0:14:02.730
<v Alan Bersten>was  really  cool,  it was just  a  lot  of  fun.  And  you 

0:14:02.730 --> 0:14:08.580
<v Alan Bersten>know,  we  were  bending  the  norms  from  the  traditional  couple 

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<v Alan Bersten>on  Dancing with  the  Stars.  She  lifted  me,  I  lifted  her. 

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<v Alan Bersten>There  was  so  much  going  on,  and  she  really  inspired 

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<v Alan Bersten>me  to  go  out  and  do  things  that  you're  not 

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<v Alan Bersten>comfortable  in.  You  know?  She's  a  big  proponent  of,  just 

0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.120
<v Alan Bersten>because  she's  a  rugby  player  doesn't  mean  she's  only  a 

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<v Alan Bersten>rugby  player.  And  I  think  that's  what  was  my  mentality 

0:14:26.820 --> 0:14:29.940
<v Alan Bersten>for  this  dance... " For  this  dance."  For  this  race,  is 

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<v Alan Bersten>I'm  not  just  a  dancer.  I'm  so  athletic.  I  take 

0:14:33.540 --> 0:14:37.800
<v Alan Bersten>pride  in  physical  exercise,  and  this  is a  great  way  to 

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<v Alan Bersten>not  only  prove  it  to  myself,  but  prove  it  to 

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<v Alan Bersten>other  people.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  love  that.  We  love  Ilona  Maher.  She's  an  incredible 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>role  model,  and  has  been  in  some  of  our  races 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  well,  so  that's  fantastic.  Who  would  you  say  was 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  the  most  talented  dancer who  you  were  paired  with?  Who 

0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  had  the  goods  and  was  just  a  talented  dancer 

0:14:59.580 --> 0:15:00.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>who  you  were  paired  with  on  the  show?

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<v Alan Bersten>You  know,  one  season  I  was  with  Amanda  Coutts.  She 

0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.080
<v Alan Bersten>used  to  be  a  Rockette,  actually,  so  she's  got  her 

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<v Alan Bersten>New  York  roots.  She  was  great.  She  knew  how  to 

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<v Alan Bersten>dance.  She  was  so  committed  to  it  and  she  had 

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<v Alan Bersten>a  great  story  behind  everything,  so  it  was  really  fun 

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<v Alan Bersten>dancing  with  her.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  my  last  dancing  question,  because  I  don't  have  very 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>many  dancing  questions,  I  couldn't  talk  about  dancing  for  more 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>than  another  minute  or  two.  If  you  had  to  dance 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  style  of  dance,  okay,  for  the  win,  for  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>championship,  what  is  your  go- to?  What  do  you  think 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  your  best  style  of  dancing  yourself?

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<v Alan Bersten>I  like  the  Argentine  tango.  There's  cool  lifts,  there's  cool 

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<v Alan Bersten>tricks.  He  knows  what  I'm  talking...  Oh  yeah.  Argentine  tango.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>There  is  something  about  the  Argentine  tango  that  everybody  knows. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>There's  something  just  dramatic  about  it,  right?

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<v Alan Bersten>Exactly.  The  drama,  the  passion.  I  think  anyone  that  can 

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<v Alan Bersten>run a  half- marathon  has  passion,  and  passion  is  what  drives 

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<v Alan Bersten>me.  I  love  it.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>How  you  feeling?

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<v Alan Bersten>Honestly,  I  can't  get  up.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  okay.

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<v Alan Bersten>Everyone  told  me, " Don't  sit  down," and okay,  you  guys  are  sitting 

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<v Alan Bersten>down.  I  said, " Okay."

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That  is  one  of  the  secrets  to  running  a  half 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>or  a  marathon,  is  stay  on  your  feet.

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<v Alan Bersten>Yeah.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Well,  I  want  to  thank  you  for  sitting  down,  literally, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>with  us  for  a  few  minutes.  Good  luck  getting  up. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Congratulations  on  the  race.

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<v Alan Bersten>Thank  you. Thank you so much.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Alan Bersten!  (inaudible)   He's  getting  up  slowly,  making  his  way 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out.  An  incredible,  incredible  day  for  Alan and  a  great  accomplishment, 

0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:41.700
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>running  the  RBC  Brooklyn  Half.
 All  right,  well.  We  had 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  very  competitive  race  today,  and  I'm  actually  going  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>ask  my  producer  Catherine,  I'm  going  to  ask  you  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>pick  up  the  card  here  that  has  the  winners  on 

0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.520
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it,  because  I want  to  go  through  them.  I  threw  it 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>down to  the  ground.  We  have  our  2024  defending  champion  Kim 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Conley  on  stage  with  us.  And  Kim,  first  of  all, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>congratulations  on  a  great  day  today.  Now,  I  know  today 

0:17:07.230 --> 0:17:10.950
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>did  not  go  exactly  as  you  planned,  but  you  had 

0:17:10.950 --> 0:17:14.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  great  day,  you  finished  second,  and  we'll  talk  about 

0:17:14.670 --> 0:17:17.459
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  women's  race.
 The  winner,  by  the  way,  on  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>women's  field  was  Felicia  Pasadyn  with  a  time  of  one 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>hour,  15  minutes,  and  39  seconds.  Congratulations  to  Felicia.  Kim 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>finished  second  at 1:16: 27,  then  it  was  Grace  Heymsfield  at 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>third.  But  Kim,  take  me  through  your  race.  First  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>all,  welcome  to  Set  the  Pace.  Thanks  for  coming  on.

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<v Kim Conley>Thank  you.  Thank  you  for  having  me.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Take  me  through  your  race  today.  You  came  in  as 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  defending  champion.  There's  a  little  pressure  that  comes  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that.  Did  you  walk  up to  the  start  line  today  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>an  intent  to  defend  that,  or  how  did  you  feel 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  you  started  the  race  today?

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<v Kim Conley>Well,  I  felt  great  as  I  started  the  race.  Absolutely 

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<v Kim Conley>wanted  to  defend  the  title,  but  mostly  was  just  excited 

0:18:02.310 --> 0:18:04.590
<v Kim Conley>to  be  back  at  this  race,  because  it's  such  a 

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<v Kim Conley>fun  environment,  and  the  volunteers  and  the  fans  that  come 

0:18:07.980 --> 0:18:09.600
<v Kim Conley>out  and  line  the  course,  and  the  way  the  course 

0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.270
<v Kim Conley>doubles  back  on  itself  through  Prospect  Park,  and  so  you 

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<v Kim Conley>have  everybody  else  coming  behind  you  that  are  cheering  for 

0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.030
<v Kim Conley>you,  that  energy,  is  just  so  infectious.  So  I  got 

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<v Kim Conley>a  little  bit  carried  away  and  ran  significantly  faster  than 

0:18:21.330 --> 0:18:22.710
<v Kim Conley>I  should  have  over  the  first  5K.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  was  in  one  of  the  lead  vehicles  and  I 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>had  a  laptop  there  following  the  race,  and  I'm  following, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>following,  following,  and  you  are  out  in  front,  and  you 

0:18:34.290 --> 0:18:37.500
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>were  out  in  front  pretty  comfortably.  And  I  actually  got 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out  of  the  lead  vehicle,  made  for  the  finish  line 

0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.869
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  behind  you,  and  I  thought  you'd  won  the  race, 

0:18:43.140 --> 0:18:45.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  I  saw  you  right  before  this  and  it  turns 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out  you'd  finished  second.  So  can  you  talk  about  what 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>happened  in  those  last  few  miles?  And  obviously  Felicia,  tracking 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that,  I  think  Felicia's  a  runner  who's  a  new  name 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  a  lot  of  us  here  at  New  York  Road 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Runners.  Did  you  see  her  coming?  Were  you  expecting  someone 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>behind  you?  Take  us  through  that  last  few  miles.

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<v Kim Conley>Yeah,  I  know,  she  really  did  come  out  of  nowhere 

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<v Kim Conley>on  me.  It  was  really  hot  out  there,  coming  down 

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<v Kim Conley>the  parkway.  It  was  sun  exposed  at  that  point  in 

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<v Kim Conley>the  day,  and  I  was  just  starting  to  suffer.  But 

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<v Kim Conley>when  she  came,  she  came  with  a  full  head  of 

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<v Kim Conley>steam  and  she  was  rolling  and  blew  right  by  me. 

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<v Kim Conley>That  was  somewhere  between  miles 10 and  11,  so  it  hurt.  It 

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<v Kim Conley>was  tough.  But  the  exciting  news  is  I'm  running  the 

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<v Kim Conley>mini  and  she  is  running  the  mini  also,  so  we're 

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<v Kim Conley>going  to  have  a  little  showdown  there.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  right,  that's  right.  You'll  be  showing  up  at  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>MasterCard  Mini  10K in June,  which  we're  excited  about.  So,  rematch,  rematch! 

0:19:40.710 --> 0:19:43.050
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>We  love  a  good  rematch,  and  we  will  have  that 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>between  you  and  Felicia  at  the  MasterCard  Mini  10K.  Kim, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  are  someone  who  really  started  out  on  the  track. 

0:19:52.770 --> 0:19:55.950
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  were  really  excellent  on  the  track,  you  had  so 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>much  success,  even  qualified  in  Olympic  success  on  the  track, 

0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.980
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  then  you  recently  moved  up  to  running  the  marathon. 

0:20:05.250 --> 0:20:09.690
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  qualified  for  the  2024  Olympic  trials,  which  is  no 

0:20:09.690 --> 0:20:13.709
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>small  feat.  Talk  about  that  transition  from  the  track  to 

0:20:13.710 --> 0:20:16.650
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  marathon,  why  you  decided  to  do  it,  and  how 

0:20:16.650 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it's  been  going.

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<v Kim Conley>It  felt  like  a  natural  progression  to  me.  I  reached 

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<v Kim Conley>a  point  in  my  career  where  I  felt  like  I'd 

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<v Kim Conley>accomplished  everything  that  I  could  accomplish,  wanted  to  accomplish  on 

0:20:27.570 --> 0:20:31.889
<v Kim Conley>the  track.  And  you  know,  I  think  everybody  is  lured 

0:20:31.890 --> 0:20:34.140
<v Kim Conley>by  the  marathon.  I  think  everybody  that  ran  this  race 

0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.830
<v Kim Conley>can  relate  to  that  pull  of  wanting  to  conquer  26.2 

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<v Kim Conley>miles.  So  for  me  that  was  just  something  that  I 

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<v Kim Conley>felt  like  I  had  to  do  next.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  just  such  a  natural  progression,  and  I'm  sure  some 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  it  probably  comes  a  bit  with  age,  right?  You 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>get  into  your  mid  to  late  thirties,  finding  that  track 

0:20:52.410 --> 0:20:56.070
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>speed  gets  a  little  tougher,  right?  But  you  can  tap 

0:20:56.070 --> 0:20:59.970
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>into  the  endurance  that  lasts,  for  so  many  runners,  well 

0:20:59.970 --> 0:21:03.659
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>into  their  forties.  So  are  you  feeling  that  transition  in 

0:21:03.660 --> 0:21:06.689
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  body,  and  you  feel  like  you've  got  a  future 

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:08.460
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>at  26. 2,  you've  got  a  present?

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<v Kim Conley>Yeah,  I  think  both  the  half- marathon  and  the  marathon, 

0:21:12.810 --> 0:21:15.060
<v Kim Conley>those  are  the  distances  that  I'll  be  focused  on  for 

0:21:15.060 --> 0:21:19.949
<v Kim Conley>a  little  bit  longer.  Yeah.  And  there's  a  puzzle  to 

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<v Kim Conley>the  marathon,  which  is  really  appealing.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  is.  Just,  it's  something  that you  got  to  figure  out 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>over  time.  How  does  the  half  factor  into  your  marathon 

0:21:28.710 --> 0:21:31.560
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>preparation?  How  do  you  approach  half,  so  what  do  you 

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:33.510
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>get  out  of  running  a  race  like  this?

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<v Kim Conley>It  depends  a  little  bit  on  the  situation.  Sometimes  you're 

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<v Kim Conley>in  a  marathon  buildup  and  use  it  as  a  tune 

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.550
<v Kim Conley>up  for  your  marathon.  Sometimes  you're  not  going  to  run 

0:21:41.550 --> 0:21:44.790
<v Kim Conley>a  marathon  in  that  season  and  it  still  gives  you 

0:21:44.790 --> 0:21:46.470
<v Kim Conley>a  race  to  put  on  the  schedule  and  have  a 

0:21:46.470 --> 0:21:48.330
<v Kim Conley>peak  effort  that  you're  building  your  training  around.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>We  got  so  many  people  out  here,  so  many  women 

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>who  really  look  up  to  someone  like  you,  the  people 

0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.400
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>who  get  to  start  right  at  the  starting  line,  right? 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  a  dream  for  so  many  people  out  there.  What's 

0:22:03.270 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  advice  to  somebody  who,  maybe  he's  out  there  with 

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  dream  of  getting  to  the  point  of  being  able 

0:22:08.100 --> 0:22:10.530
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  run  as  a  seeded  athlete  at  an  event  like 

0:22:10.530 --> 0:22:13.709
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this,  or  just  wants  to  find  a  new  level  and 

0:22:13.710 --> 0:22:16.260
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>set  a  PR?  What's  the  best  advice  you  can  give  them?

0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.670
<v Kim Conley>Running  really  takes  consistency,  and  it's  just  the  more  you 

0:22:20.670 --> 0:22:22.230
<v Kim Conley>put  into  the  sport,  the  more  you're  going  to  get 

0:22:22.230 --> 0:22:25.500
<v Kim Conley>out  in the  long  term.  Right  now,  especially  with the  New  York 

0:22:25.500 --> 0:22:27.659
<v Kim Conley>Marathon  on  the  horizon  for  a  lot  of  people,  especially 

0:22:27.660 --> 0:22:30.060
<v Kim Conley>in  this  area,  I'm  on  the  phone  almost  daily  with 

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<v Kim Conley>people  that  are  asking  me, " When  should  I  start  training?" 

0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.859
<v Kim Conley>And  my  answer  is  always, " Today."  Because  the  sooner  you 

0:22:34.859 --> 0:22:37.680
<v Kim Conley>start,  the  more  it's  going  to  build  on  itself,  and 

0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:39.449
<v Kim Conley>the  better  you're  going  to  feel,  the  more  confident  you're 

0:22:39.450 --> 0:22:40.770
<v Kim Conley>going  to  feel,  when  race  day  comes.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  so  there's  the  advice.  You're  going  to  run 

0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.990
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  marathon  in  November,  start  training  today.  Well,  I  think 

0:22:45.990 --> 0:22:49.560
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  all did  just  start  training  today.  So  congratulations.  You've  all 

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.129
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  taken  Kim's  advice  and  started  training  today.  Well  done. 

0:22:53.340 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  coach  as  well,  right?

0:22:54.660 --> 0:22:55.350
<v Kim Conley>That's  right,  yeah.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Talk  about  that.  How  many  athletes  are  you  coaching?

0:22:57.990 --> 0:22:59.790
<v Kim Conley>We  have  about  a  hundred  and  fifty  athletes  in  our 

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<v Kim Conley>business  right  now,  Next  Best  Run.  A  lot  of  them 

0:23:02.369 --> 0:23:05.340
<v Kim Conley>are  actually  based  in  this  area,  and  we  do  a 

0:23:05.340 --> 0:23:07.740
<v Kim Conley>special  program  for  the  New  York  Marathon  called  Next  Level 

0:23:07.740 --> 0:23:10.859
<v Kim Conley>New  York,  and we have  a  lot  of  fun.  We  come  out 

0:23:10.859 --> 0:23:12.510
<v Kim Conley>here  as  often  as  we  can,  because  we  love  the 

0:23:12.510 --> 0:23:14.010
<v Kim Conley>running  community.  It's  so  thriving.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Are  you  your  own  coach,  or  do  you  have  another  coach?

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<v Kim Conley>So  I'm  coached  by  my  husband  Drew  Wartenburg,  who  also 

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Kim Conley>coaches  in  the  business.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>How  does  that  coaching  practice  help  you  as  a  runner? 

0:23:24.030 --> 0:23:26.880
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Do  you  feel  like  you're  learning  something  by  teaching  others?

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Kim Conley>It's  definitely  given  me  a  way  greater  sense  of  purpose 

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.850
<v Kim Conley>with  my  training.  I'm  definitely  the  type  of  athlete  that 

0:23:32.850 --> 0:23:34.680
<v Kim Conley>can  be  a  little  bit  of  a  knucklehead  and  just 

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:38.790
<v Kim Conley>think  that  in  every  situation,  faster  is  better.  But  there's 

0:23:38.790 --> 0:23:41.220
<v Kim Conley>a  lot  of  nuance  to  training  in  terms  of  accomplishing 

0:23:41.220 --> 0:23:44.609
<v Kim Conley>what  you're  supposed  to  accomplish  with  a  physiological  system  in 

0:23:44.609 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Kim Conley>the  body.  And  so  because  I'm  explaining  that  so  often 

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.859
<v Kim Conley>to  people  now,  I  find  in  my  own  training,  I'm 

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<v Kim Conley>a  little  bit  better  about  adhering  to  my  own  advice.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  well  Kim,  congratulations  on  a  great  day  today, 

0:23:56.369 --> 0:23:59.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>finishing  on  the  podium  for  the  second  straight  year,  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we  look  forward  to  seeing  you  at  the  MasterCard  Mini 

0:24:02.250 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>10K.  Congratulations.

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<v Kim Conley>Thank  you.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Kim  Conley,  everybody.  Our  second  place  women's  finisher  today in the  RBC 

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.300
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Brooklyn  Half.  Thank  you  very  much.  All  right,  we're  going 

0:24:12.300 --> 0:24:15.900
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  wrap  up  today  with  a  special  minute  from  our 

0:24:15.900 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>friends  at  the  Hospital  for  Special  Surgery,  HSS.  Our  friend 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>from  HSS  Jason  Mayerhofer  is  here.  Jason  is  a  doctor 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  physical  therapy  from  HSS  with  a  lot  of  letters 

0:24:29.790 --> 0:24:38.730
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>after  his  name,  including  PT,  DPT, MTC,  STC,  CSCS,  SFMA.  I 

0:24:38.730 --> 0:24:41.369
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>don't  know  what  most  of  these  things  are.  PT,  I 

0:24:41.369 --> 0:24:44.580
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>know  what  that  one  is.  But  he's  got  18  years 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  experience  working  with  athletes  who've  had  injuries  of  the 

0:24:48.030 --> 0:24:50.820
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>kind  a  lot  of  you  out  there  have  probably  experienced. 

0:24:50.820 --> 0:24:55.350
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hips,  knees,  ankles,  all  the  things  that  runners  get.  Jason, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>nice  to  have  you  here  on  Set  the  Pace.  Welcome.

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>Thank  you  so  much.  It's  great  being  here.  Beautiful  day, 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>even  a  little  sprinkle  to  cool  things  off,  but  appreciate  it.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right  Jason,  we're  looking  at  a  sea  of  humanity 

0:25:06.300 --> 0:25:10.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>right  now,  thousands  of  runners  who have  just  completed  the  RBC 

0:25:10.890 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Brooklyn  Half.  What  is  the  first  thing  that  all  of 

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.699
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>these  people  out  here  should  do  when  they  get  home?

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:25.859
<v Jason Mayerhofer>Everyone  listen  up.  Don't  run.  Rest.  Please  take  at least seven to  10 

0:25:25.859 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Jason Mayerhofer>days  off,  let  your  body  recover  a  little  bit,  both 

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.250
<v Jason Mayerhofer>mentally  and  physically,  and  then  you  can  start  to  ramp 

0:25:32.250 --> 0:25:35.369
<v Jason Mayerhofer>back  up  again.  But  please,  they  need  to  rest,  need 

0:25:35.369 --> 0:25:39.629
<v Jason Mayerhofer>to  recover,  focus  on  nutrition,  hydration.  Think  everyone  should  be 

0:25:39.630 --> 0:25:40.889
<v Jason Mayerhofer>in  a  good  place  at  that  point.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>How  long  do  you  think  you  should  typically  take  off 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>after  running  a  half- marathon?

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>It's  speculative.  Some  places  will  say  each  mile  that  you 

0:25:50.100 --> 0:25:53.369
<v Jason Mayerhofer>run,  you  take  a  day  off.  Doing  13  miles,  take 

0:25:53.369 --> 0:25:56.100
<v Jason Mayerhofer>a  couple of  weeks  off.  I  think  that's  a  little  excessive, 

0:25:56.340 --> 0:25:58.710
<v Jason Mayerhofer>but  I  think  what  it  boils  down  to,  you  really 

0:25:58.710 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Jason Mayerhofer>just  got  to  listen  to  your  body.  If  your  body 

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:02.820
<v Jason Mayerhofer>says  you're  ready  to  run  again,  you  can  start  to 

0:26:02.820 --> 0:26:06.510
<v Jason Mayerhofer>ramp  up.  Wearables  are  a  big  thing  nowadays,  so  lots 

0:26:06.510 --> 0:26:09.810
<v Jason Mayerhofer>of  recovery  sores  that  may  come  about,  really  focus  on 

0:26:09.810 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Jason Mayerhofer>that  and  see  if  your  body's  prepped  for  running  again.

0:26:12.420 --> 0:26:16.409
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>What  about  icing?  What  about  icing?  Some  people  like  an 

0:26:16.410 --> 0:26:20.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>ice  bath  or  a  cold  plunge.  Do  you  think  that's 

0:26:20.550 --> 0:26:23.550
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  must- do  within  a  few  hours  after  running  a 

0:26:23.550 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>long  distance  like  that?

0:26:24.660 --> 0:26:26.699
<v Jason Mayerhofer>Actually  I  tend  to  steer  away  from  that,  because  it 

0:26:26.700 --> 0:26:29.310
<v Jason Mayerhofer>actually  stiffen  you  up  a  little  bit.  You  know?  As 

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.850
<v Jason Mayerhofer>Kim  had  to  try  to  get  up,  it's  a  little 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>bit  rough  when  you  have  to  be  static.  With  ice, 

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Jason Mayerhofer>you're  actually  going  to  really  constrict  your  blood  vessels.  You're 

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:44.070
<v Jason Mayerhofer>really  looking  to  pump  all  of  the  toxins  and  metabolites 

0:26:44.070 --> 0:26:47.699
<v Jason Mayerhofer>that  form  out  of  the  system.  So  icing  for right  now, 

0:26:47.790 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Jason Mayerhofer>I  would  steer  away  from  it.  Key,  just  move,  move, 

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.830
<v Jason Mayerhofer>move.  Don't  sit,  don't  get  too  static.

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.910
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Should  people  out  there...  And  we're  now,  maybe  it  could 

0:26:56.910 --> 0:26:59.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>be  an  hour  after  most  people  have  finished,  some  more 

0:26:59.100 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>if  they  were  faster,  maybe  even  two  hours.  Should  folks 

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:08.220
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>be  stretching  immediately  after  finishing,  later  in  the  evening?  What's 

0:27:08.220 --> 0:27:09.330
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  stretching  advice?

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>Yeah,  absolutely.  I  think  stretching  after  activity  is  good.  I 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>wouldn't  stretch  before.  You're  looking  to  do  dynamic  warmups  before, 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>but  definitely  stretching  after,  foam  rolling  after.  You  could  even 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>do  some  functional  movements,  squatting,  lunges,  things  like that,  just  to 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>get  blood  flow,  get  some  fluid  exchange  to  your  joints. 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>I  think  that's  healthy.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  what  about,  there's  a  lot  of  cross- training  options, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  know,  swimming,  weight  lifting.  Are  all  those  things  good 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  start  right  after  running  like  this?  Especially  if  you're 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>planning  on  entering  another  training  cycle,  maybe  for  a  fall  marathon.

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>Absolutely, yeah. I cross- training's  critical.  I  find  a  lot  of  runners  that 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>come  into  our  clinic  tend  to  be  running  four  or 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>five,  six  days  a  week.  I  actually  steer  against  that. 

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:52.980
<v Jason Mayerhofer>I  actually  want  people  to  run  two  to  three  days 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>a  week  and  do  some  cross- training  in  the  interim, 

0:27:55.380 --> 0:27:58.109
<v Jason Mayerhofer>as  well  as  strength  training,  to  really  have  a  nice 

0:27:58.109 --> 0:28:02.070
<v Jason Mayerhofer>balance  in  their  training  system,  not  develop  overuse  injuries  and 

0:28:02.070 --> 0:28:05.340
<v Jason Mayerhofer>things  like  that.  So  yeah,  I  highly  encourage  swimming,  any 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>sort  of  cross- training.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I've  actually  talked  to  a  few  runners  today  who  did 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>not  have  the  day  they  had  hoped  to  have  because 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  the  humidity,  right?  It  was  warm,  it  was  humid. 

0:28:16.350 --> 0:28:19.470
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>What's  your  message  to  those  runners  in  terms  of  how 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  be  maybe  better  prepared  for  these  kinds  of  conditions 

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  the  future?  Again,  we're  here  in  the  Northeast,  you 

0:28:26.310 --> 0:28:29.699
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>can  get  a  humid  day  any  time  between  March  and 

0:28:29.700 --> 0:28:31.889
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>November,  you  could  get  a  day  like  this.  What  do 

0:28:31.890 --> 0:28:35.369
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  think  are  some  lessons  the  runners  can  learn  if 

0:28:35.369 --> 0:28:37.350
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>they  may  be  crashed  a  little  bit  today  because  of 

0:28:37.350 --> 0:28:37.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  humidity?

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>Yeah,  I  think  it's  really  unpredictable  with  the  weather,  especially 

0:28:42.810 --> 0:28:45.330
<v Jason Mayerhofer>for  this  run.  But  I  think  you  can  learn  from 

0:28:45.330 --> 0:28:48.870
<v Jason Mayerhofer>it.  You  can  go  back  and  process  your  times,  how 

0:28:48.870 --> 0:28:52.290
<v Jason Mayerhofer>you  ran,  how  you  felt  with  those.  I  think  afterwards 

0:28:52.290 --> 0:28:54.030
<v Jason Mayerhofer>you  can  also,  especially  if you're going  to  be  training  for  the 

0:28:54.060 --> 0:28:57.780
<v Jason Mayerhofer>full  marathon,  hire  a  coach.  That  could  be  beneficial.  They 

0:28:57.780 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Jason Mayerhofer>could  help  break  down  things.  You  can  revisit  your  hydration 

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.190
<v Jason Mayerhofer>and  nutrition  during  the  run,  really  see  if  that  was 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>a  deficit  for  you.  But  I  think that  the  mental  fortitude 

0:29:08.490 --> 0:29:10.950
<v Jason Mayerhofer>that  you  get  to  develop  as  well.  Some  people  like 

0:29:10.950 --> 0:29:13.590
<v Jason Mayerhofer>to  sign  up  for  another  interim  run,  just  to  boost 

0:29:13.590 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Jason Mayerhofer>their  confidence  a  little  bit.  So  the  mental  and  the 

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.390
<v Jason Mayerhofer>physical  is  just  as  important  to  capitalize  on.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  we're  just  under  six  months  out  from the  TCS 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  City  Marathon.  For  folks  out  there  who  just 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>ran  today,  who  are  planning  on  training  for  November,  when 

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:32.700
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>should  they  start?  We  talked  about  taking  a  break.  Of 

0:29:32.700 --> 0:29:35.370
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>course  it  depends  on  the  fitness  level,  experience,  but  when 

0:29:35.370 --> 0:29:37.860
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>do  you  think  is  the  window  when  people  should  start 

0:29:37.860 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>really  focusing  on  a  block  for  the  marathon?

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>Yeah,  I  think  now  is  actually  the  perfect  time.  I 

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Jason Mayerhofer>would  obviously,  like we  just  discussed,  focus  on  your  recovery  for 

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.250
<v Jason Mayerhofer>now.  Give  it  a  couple  weeks,  and  then  you  can 

0:29:50.250 --> 0:29:52.380
<v Jason Mayerhofer>start  to  kick  it  into  high  gear  in  June.  But 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>really,  really,  really  monitor  your  system,  monitor  your  body.  If 

0:29:56.190 --> 0:29:59.340
<v Jason Mayerhofer>something  doesn't  feel  right,  don't  wait  for  too  long  to 

0:29:59.340 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Jason Mayerhofer>get  it  looked  at.  I  give  it  a  couple  weeks, 

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>and  if  you're  having  persistent  pain,  seek  out  a  medical  specialist.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  Jason,  thank  you  very  much,  appreciate  it.  Great 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>advice.  Jason  Mayerhofer  from  Hospital  for  Special  Surgery.

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<v Jason Mayerhofer>Thank  you  Rob.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thanks,  good  luck  to  everybody  out  there  on  your  recoveries. 

0:30:17.490 --> 0:30:21.990
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