1 00:00:00,210 --> 00:00:03,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Roadrunners is a non- profit organization with a 2 00:00:03,270 --> 00:00:06,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: vision to build healthier lives and stronger communities through the 3 00:00:06,690 --> 00:00:10,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: transformative power of running. The support of members and donors 4 00:00:10,770 --> 00:00:13,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: like you helps us achieve our mission to transform the 5 00:00:13,950 --> 00:00:17,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: health and well- being of our communities through inclusive and 6 00:00:17,250 --> 00:00:22,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: accessible running experiences, empowering all to achieve their potential. Learn 7 00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:25,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: more and contribute at nyrr. org/ donate. 8 00:00:29,940 --> 00:00:34,349 Speaker 2: Thank you. New York. Today we're reminded of the power 9 00:00:34,350 --> 00:00:39,210 Speaker 2: of community and the power of coming together athletes on 10 00:00:39,210 --> 00:00:40,229 Speaker 2: your mark ... 11 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:45,958 Speaker 3: The first woman to finish for the second straight year here in 12 00:00:45,959 --> 00:00:49,710 Speaker 3: the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling Miki Gorman, 13 00:00:49,710 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: and why not? 2:29: 30, a time for good advice. 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,610 Speaker 4: Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes to 15 00:00:56,610 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: the line, pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA, 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,930 Speaker 4: he so proudly wears across his chest. A great day 17 00:01:03,930 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: for Meb Dablosky. 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hey everybody, and welcome to another episode of Set the 19 00:01:13,170 --> 00:01:16,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace presented by Peloton. It's the official podcast of New 20 00:01:16,770 --> 00:01:19,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: York Roadrunners. I am the official CEO of New York 21 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:23,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: Roadrunners, Rob Simmelkjaer. With me as always, week in and 22 00:01:23,370 --> 00:01:28,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: week out, the phenom from Peloton, Becs Gentry. Hello Rebecca. 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:28,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: How are you today? 24 00:01:29,370 --> 00:01:31,650 Becs Gentry: Good. I love that intro. That was great. 25 00:01:32,970 --> 00:01:35,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm fired up today. Fired up trying to give you 26 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:38,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: a little extra love. Maybe Becs, it's the fact that 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: I am feeling kind of good in a way about 28 00:01:41,550 --> 00:01:45,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: getting through my longest run in 11 years yesterday. I 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: went 18 and a half miles, my second- longest training run in 30 00:01:50,340 --> 00:01:54,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: this block for Berlin. It went pretty well. Today, I'm 31 00:01:54,420 --> 00:01:56,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: feeling a little under the weather. I'm not going to 32 00:01:56,580 --> 00:01:57,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: lie to you. 33 00:01:59,010 --> 00:01:59,250 Becs Gentry: No. 34 00:01:59,250 --> 00:02:02,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: The legs feel fine. Everything else feels a little fuzzy 35 00:02:02,130 --> 00:02:03,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: right now. I think I may have caught a bug. 36 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:04,169 Rob Simmelkjaer: I don't know, but- 37 00:02:05,220 --> 00:02:05,280 Becs Gentry: No. 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: Got there, did it. I got one more long wind to go. I think 39 00:02:07,980 --> 00:02:09,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm supposed to run 21 this weekend. Then, it is taper one of the great words in the ears of any runner, the taper. 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,230 Becs Gentry: Then there it is. There it is. Well, congratulations first of 41 00:02:19,230 --> 00:02:22,470 Becs Gentry: all of getting that longest run in a while, done. 42 00:02:24,270 --> 00:02:26,610 Becs Gentry: Yeah, I love that feeling of you're fired up for 43 00:02:26,610 --> 00:02:31,019 Becs Gentry: the week afterwards because you're so proud of yourself. Sorry 44 00:02:31,020 --> 00:02:33,450 Becs Gentry: that something is trying to get you but rest and 45 00:02:33,450 --> 00:02:37,650 Becs Gentry: recover, that's the thing. Get that rest in your ... the 46 00:02:37,650 --> 00:02:40,230 Becs Gentry: saying the hay is almost in the barn for you. 47 00:02:40,230 --> 00:02:42,540 Becs Gentry: One more long run. So listen to your body at 48 00:02:42,540 --> 00:02:44,820 Becs Gentry: this point. You are so close to race day that 49 00:02:44,820 --> 00:02:48,180 Becs Gentry: it is vital right now. You know, you can run 50 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:49,200 Becs Gentry: 26.2 miles. 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,139 Rob Simmelkjaer: I know. I feel and I've done it before, but 52 00:02:52,139 --> 00:02:52,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's been a while. 53 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,680 Becs Gentry: It's been a while. That's it. You always need a refresher, 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,080 Becs Gentry: but listen to your body for these few days so 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,580 Becs Gentry: you can prep for that over- twenty to really cement 56 00:03:03,540 --> 00:03:05,340 Becs Gentry: the door on the hay in the barn. 57 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:10,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: 100%. Becs, we always have to talk about my running 58 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:13,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: and training stuff before we talk about yours because if 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: we talk about yours first, I would look like some 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: sort of a little guppy out here with my little 18- 61 00:03:18,180 --> 00:03:22,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: mile runs. How many miles Ms. Gentry, did you log 62 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:23,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: last week? 63 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,430 Becs Gentry: I was on a drop- down week, so I had 64 00:03:26,430 --> 00:03:30,000 Becs Gentry: a beautiful week of training. It was just over 90 miles, 65 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,080 Becs Gentry: so it was ... Yeah, I know. Even I'm like, this 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,410 Becs Gentry: is so weird to say. This is a drop- down week. An easy week 67 00:03:37,410 --> 00:03:42,210 Becs Gentry: was 90 miles, so that was really nice. And then, 68 00:03:42,210 --> 00:03:45,450 Becs Gentry: I almost passed out when I saw my training plan 69 00:03:45,450 --> 00:03:47,280 Becs Gentry: for this week, I was like, " Oh, that's why my 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,450 Becs Gentry: coach was very much telling me to de- load and 71 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:57,990 Becs Gentry: just take it easy." Even yesterday on Labor Day, I 72 00:03:57,990 --> 00:04:01,590 Becs Gentry: didn't feel like going for a run. It was a 73 00:04:01,590 --> 00:04:03,600 Becs Gentry: day where I wanted to just spend it with Tallulah 74 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,151 Becs Gentry: and Austin. It was a beautiful day here in New York. 75 00:04:06,151 --> 00:04:06,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yes. 76 00:04:07,110 --> 00:04:09,300 Becs Gentry: And if I don't go out first thing in the 77 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:13,020 Becs Gentry: morning, it's really hard for me to get out there, even- 78 00:04:13,950 --> 00:04:14,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: You and me both. Yeah. 79 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:16,260 Becs Gentry: Right, it doesn't matter on the distance or the time. 80 00:04:16,260 --> 00:04:19,169 Becs Gentry: It's just difficult because the day is rolling and you're 81 00:04:19,170 --> 00:04:23,760 Becs Gentry: enjoying it. And we went to Prospect Park Zoo. Tallulah 82 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,020 Becs Gentry: got to meet a peacock. She's very happy and she 83 00:04:28,020 --> 00:04:30,659 Becs Gentry: went down for a nap and so, I just said to 84 00:04:30,660 --> 00:04:34,049 Becs Gentry: myself, this is it. I've got to go and do 85 00:04:34,050 --> 00:04:38,580 Becs Gentry: this training run because the best changes happen when you 86 00:04:38,580 --> 00:04:41,610 Becs Gentry: have that mentality of I don't want to do it. 87 00:04:43,290 --> 00:04:46,409 Becs Gentry: You might wake up on race day for Berlin and 88 00:04:46,410 --> 00:04:48,360 Becs Gentry: be like, I don't want to do this today, but 89 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,589 Becs Gentry: you're going to go and do it. So yeah, that kickstarted- 90 00:04:52,589 --> 00:04:53,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: You got to be able to run on days like that. Absolutely. 91 00:04:53,850 --> 00:04:58,350 Becs Gentry: Yeah. Well, Sunday kickstarted a nice week of ... I don't 92 00:04:58,350 --> 00:05:00,210 Becs Gentry: know what it's going to be this week, but I 93 00:05:00,210 --> 00:05:04,080 Becs Gentry: know I have one three- hour training run coming up and 94 00:05:04,380 --> 00:05:05,339 Becs Gentry: a couple of two hour. 95 00:05:05,339 --> 00:05:08,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: For those who don't know, of course, Becs is training 96 00:05:08,580 --> 00:05:12,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: for this unbelievable seven marathons on seven continents and seven 97 00:05:12,930 --> 00:05:16,349 Rob Simmelkjaer: days. The great world race I believe it's called. And 98 00:05:16,350 --> 00:05:19,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: so, the training is just next level for this young 99 00:05:19,650 --> 00:05:23,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: lady and we will keep hearing it and being amazed 100 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: as she gets closer and closer to that incredible attempt 101 00:05:27,450 --> 00:05:28,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: in November. 102 00:05:28,830 --> 00:05:31,500 Becs Gentry: We will, but in the meantime, we have a lot 103 00:05:31,740 --> 00:05:33,839 Becs Gentry: of joy happening. 104 00:05:34,350 --> 00:05:37,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, so much. I mean, first of all, I feel 105 00:05:37,230 --> 00:05:40,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: like when you pass Labor Day weekend, the weather tends 106 00:05:40,470 --> 00:05:43,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: to get cooler, more crisp, such a great time to 107 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:47,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: start running and training. I really think everybody out there 108 00:05:47,370 --> 00:05:49,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: is ready for a little less humidity, whether it's here in the New 109 00:05:49,589 --> 00:05:52,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: York area or probably anywhere you go, at least in 110 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Northern Hemisphere. So I know people are getting excited. 111 00:05:55,529 --> 00:05:58,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: We also have a lot of excitement coming our way 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: here at New York Roadrunners because it's Fifth Avenue Mile 113 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:06,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: Week. That's right. The New Balance Fifth Avenue Mile taking 114 00:06:06,570 --> 00:06:10,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: place this coming Sunday. And Becs, we have an incredible 115 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:14,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: pro field showing up for the race this year. 20 116 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:17,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: athletes from the Paris games who will be closing out 117 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:21,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: this historic racing season with this thrilling one mile run, 118 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:25,169 Rob Simmelkjaer: right down Fifth Avenue. This race is so special, it's 119 00:06:25,170 --> 00:06:27,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: so iconic. And I can't wait to see some of 120 00:06:27,870 --> 00:06:31,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: these names run right down Fifth Avenue from the Met 121 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:34,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: to the Plaza. It'll be headlined this year by defending 122 00:06:34,890 --> 00:06:39,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: champion, British silver medalist and world champion Josh Kerr, coming 123 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:41,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: back to try to repeat in New York your countrymen, Becs. 124 00:06:42,990 --> 00:06:46,080 Becs Gentry: I'm so excited to see him. I know how much 125 00:06:46,350 --> 00:06:49,500 Becs Gentry: he loves New York. I believe he's coming with his 126 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:54,630 Becs Gentry: fiance this year and is really excited to do not 127 00:06:54,660 --> 00:06:59,760 Becs Gentry: just the Fifth Ave mile, but also, the touristy stuff together, which 128 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,330 Becs Gentry: really makes my heart sing. And as you say, these 129 00:07:03,390 --> 00:07:07,140 Becs Gentry: incredible athletes, they've been to the Olympics. They are closing out 130 00:07:07,410 --> 00:07:12,570 Becs Gentry: one heck of a year of training, one huge summer 131 00:07:12,570 --> 00:07:15,690 Becs Gentry: of competing, and I feel like this is going to 132 00:07:15,690 --> 00:07:17,910 Becs Gentry: be the cherry on the top of the cake for 133 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:21,810 Becs Gentry: them to really have some fun, do a nice fast 134 00:07:21,810 --> 00:07:25,020 Becs Gentry: mile to show off their talents here in New York 135 00:07:25,530 --> 00:07:27,901 Becs Gentry: and then, go and enjoy the city. 136 00:07:27,901 --> 00:07:33,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: Indeed and the aforementioned Josh Kerr, he will be our guest on 137 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,351 Rob Simmelkjaer: today's show, Josh- 138 00:07:34,351 --> 00:07:34,771 Becs Gentry: Yeah. 139 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: Coming back to New York to defend his title, one 140 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:42,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: last year and 3: 47. 9. That was the third fastest time 141 00:07:42,450 --> 00:07:45,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: in event history. So he's looking to make more history 142 00:07:46,050 --> 00:07:46,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: this year. 143 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,111 Becs Gentry: My gosh. I don't think I'd be half a mile in. 144 00:07:49,111 --> 00:07:54,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: 3:47 in change. Incredible. Josh is going to have plenty of 145 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: elite company as he tries to repeat on Fifth Avenue, 146 00:07:58,350 --> 00:08:03,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: including Germany's, Robert Farken. Great Britain's, Neil Gourley. Kenya's Edwin 147 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: Kurgat. Ireland's Cathal Doyle, and three great runners from the 148 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:11,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: United States, Bryce Hoppel, Hobbs Kessler and Matthew Wilkinson. So 149 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's a great field. And on the women's side, Becs, US Olympic 150 00:08:15,450 --> 00:08:18,239 Rob Simmelkjaer: medalist and world champion Emma Coburn will be the headliner. 151 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,340 Becs Gentry: I'm so excited for Emma. She's returning to the competition 152 00:08:23,340 --> 00:08:26,430 Becs Gentry: after missing the US Olympic trials and the Paris games 153 00:08:26,430 --> 00:08:29,610 Becs Gentry: due to her broken ankle. And I go, so far 154 00:08:29,610 --> 00:08:32,100 Becs Gentry: as to say probably a broken heart as well, when 155 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:36,090 Becs Gentry: it comes to missing out on the games. She is 156 00:08:36,809 --> 00:08:38,790 Becs Gentry: a real ... I mean everyone is a hard worker, but 157 00:08:38,790 --> 00:08:41,579 Becs Gentry: you just see it with Emma. So this is going 158 00:08:41,580 --> 00:08:44,309 Becs Gentry: to be epic to see her towing the line with 159 00:08:44,610 --> 00:08:50,160 Becs Gentry: some fellow legends as well, which I mean, the American 160 00:08:50,580 --> 00:08:53,760 Becs Gentry: field for the women is just huge here. We've got 161 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,530 Becs Gentry: Marisa Howard, Emily Mackay, Whittni Morgan, Karissa Schweizer. Then we 162 00:08:58,530 --> 00:09:02,670 Becs Gentry: have Kenya's, Susan Ejore and Mexico's, Laura Galván. 163 00:09:05,130 --> 00:09:08,069 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's a great field and it's just a great day 164 00:09:08,070 --> 00:09:10,829 Rob Simmelkjaer: for everybody running. It's such a unique race for us. 165 00:09:10,830 --> 00:09:13,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: We have so many starts and depending on where you're 166 00:09:13,860 --> 00:09:16,439 Rob Simmelkjaer: running and your age group and your speed, you could 167 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: be running at 7 AM. You could be running at 168 00:09:18,420 --> 00:09:20,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: 11 AM. You could be running later. So it's a 169 00:09:20,820 --> 00:09:23,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: long day. It's a full day of running and it's a 170 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: very special day for us at New York Roadrunners with 171 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:29,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: our partners at New Balance. So we're just really excited 172 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:30,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: for Sunday's events. 173 00:09:30,660 --> 00:09:33,240 Becs Gentry: I am so excited. It's my first time running it. 174 00:09:34,890 --> 00:09:35,191 Rob Simmelkjaer: I can't believe that 175 00:09:35,191 --> 00:09:39,059 Becs Gentry: I know, me neither. I'm not a mile person. It 176 00:09:39,059 --> 00:09:42,089 Becs Gentry: takes me five to eight to warm into a run 177 00:09:42,090 --> 00:09:44,880 Becs Gentry: these days. So this is going to be very interesting 178 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,550 Becs Gentry: for me, but I'll tell you as a spectator, one 179 00:09:47,550 --> 00:09:50,309 Becs Gentry: of the things I really love about this race is, 180 00:09:50,309 --> 00:09:53,670 Becs Gentry: as you said, Rob, the amount of different starts that's 181 00:09:54,210 --> 00:10:00,210 Becs Gentry: facilitated here by New York Roadrunners, enables most people to 182 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:06,209 Becs Gentry: see the elite athletes compete, which I think is one 183 00:10:06,210 --> 00:10:10,439 Becs Gentry: of the downfalls of racing, most other races when elite 184 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:14,760 Becs Gentry: athletes are running, if you're a running fan because you 185 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,370 Becs Gentry: don't get to watch them in the moment. And so, 186 00:10:17,370 --> 00:10:21,840 Becs Gentry: that is such a big draw for me this race. 187 00:10:21,870 --> 00:10:24,780 Becs Gentry: So can't wait to be cheering and running this year. 188 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:28,559 Becs Gentry: No matter your summer plans, Peloton is your partner in 189 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,650 Becs Gentry: reaching your running goals. With a variety of running and 190 00:10:31,650 --> 00:10:35,190 Becs Gentry: walking content and features, you can do everything from tracking 191 00:10:35,190 --> 00:10:38,220 Becs Gentry: your walks outdoors with the Peloton app, to hitting your 192 00:10:38,220 --> 00:10:41,640 Becs Gentry: pace targets during interval and progression runs on the Peloton 193 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,790 Becs Gentry: tread. Whether you are running a favorite racecourse from home 194 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:48,929 Becs Gentry: or exploring new routes outside this summer, Peloton supports your 195 00:10:48,929 --> 00:10:52,770 Becs Gentry: running journey every step of the way. All access membership 196 00:10:52,770 --> 00:10:56,730 Becs Gentry: is separate. Learn more about Peloton Tread at onepeloton. com/ 197 00:10:57,300 --> 00:11:00,840 Becs Gentry: running. Find the Peloton app in the Apple, Android and 198 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,190 Becs Gentry: Google app stores today. 199 00:11:02,490 --> 00:11:04,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: Today on Set the Pace, we'll be sitting down with 200 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:07,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: one of the fastest men in the world, British middle 201 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:11,339 Rob Simmelkjaer: distance runner, Josh Kerr, fresh off of an unforgettable race 202 00:11:11,340 --> 00:11:14,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: at Stade de France. Josh gives us a look behind 203 00:11:14,490 --> 00:11:17,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: the scenes at the fierce track and field rivalries that 204 00:11:17,429 --> 00:11:19,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: kept us all glued to our televisions during the games 205 00:11:19,950 --> 00:11:23,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: this past August. Then we'll be here with New York 206 00:11:23,190 --> 00:11:26,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: Roadrunner's member Susan Huang. Susan is preparing to run her 207 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: second TCS New York City Marathon this fall in honor 208 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: of her eight- year- old son, Oliver. And did we 209 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: say TCS New York City Marathon, it is coming up 210 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: fast and furious here as we are now into September. 211 00:11:38,429 --> 00:11:41,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: Only eight weeks left until the big day. So if 212 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're training for this year's marathon, you are exactly halfway 213 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: towards your goal. If you're running a 16- week training period. Meb is 214 00:11:49,020 --> 00:11:51,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to be here with today's Meb minute with tips 215 00:11:51,090 --> 00:11:54,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: for week eight of your sixteen- week, TCS New York 216 00:11:54,179 --> 00:11:58,079 Rob Simmelkjaer: City Marathon training plan. Best of luck. In the world 217 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: of middle- distance running, very few athletes have captured the 218 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: spotlight quite like Josh Kerr, the British runner who is 219 00:12:04,620 --> 00:12:07,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: known for his record- breaking Mile and his fierce competitiveness 220 00:12:07,890 --> 00:12:12,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: has had an extraordinary 2024 season. We are so excited 221 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:15,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: that Josh is capping this incredible year here in New 222 00:12:15,059 --> 00:12:18,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: York City by defending his title in this Sunday's New 223 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: Balance Fifth Avenue Mile. Josh, welcome to Set the Pace. 224 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:24,300 Josh Kerr: Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. It's a high- 225 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:26,069 Josh Kerr: level production over here, so I'm excited. 226 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: We're doing our best, Josh. We're doing our best. Thank 227 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: you. So first of all, I met you at the 228 00:12:32,550 --> 00:12:35,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: finish line of the Fifth Avenue Mile last year. You 229 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: are the defending champion in that event. You had an 230 00:12:38,580 --> 00:12:43,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: incredible race last year. Why did you decide after Paris 231 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:46,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: and all the events of the summer to run with 232 00:12:46,170 --> 00:12:47,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: us at Fifth Avenue again? 233 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,300 Josh Kerr: So I think for me, everyone has a different definition 234 00:12:51,300 --> 00:12:58,170 Josh Kerr: of what they'll find a successful season. Everyone peaks at 235 00:12:58,170 --> 00:13:01,440 Josh Kerr: different times. I think it's something that the sport hasn't quite 236 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,840 Josh Kerr: figured out yet is what's the most important and what's 237 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,100 Josh Kerr: not. And so after Paris, it was important for me 238 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:11,069 Josh Kerr: to really enjoy what I'm doing for the rest of 239 00:13:11,070 --> 00:13:12,840 Josh Kerr: the season, because I have normally a bit of a 240 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,490 Josh Kerr: lull after a major championship. So for me it's like 241 00:13:17,490 --> 00:13:20,400 Josh Kerr: what races can I do, that's really going to spark 242 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,949 Josh Kerr: me to get out of the door and get excited 243 00:13:22,980 --> 00:13:25,380 Josh Kerr: and go to some really fun places and go to 244 00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:28,979 Josh Kerr: the events. It's going to keep me running for the 245 00:13:28,980 --> 00:13:32,069 Josh Kerr: next five, six weeks through the rest of the season. 246 00:13:32,070 --> 00:13:35,700 Josh Kerr: So when I look at the calendar for me it's 247 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:39,660 Josh Kerr: like, yeah, I can go to New York and bring a 248 00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:42,059 Josh Kerr: bunch of my team with me and we can enjoy 249 00:13:42,059 --> 00:13:43,890 Josh Kerr: the last part of the season with one of the 250 00:13:43,890 --> 00:13:46,170 Josh Kerr: most interesting and fun races of the year. 251 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,370 Becs Gentry: I love that. I'm running it for the first time 252 00:13:50,370 --> 00:13:53,760 Becs Gentry: this year, Josh. I'm a marathoner, so stepping into the 253 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,699 Becs Gentry: mile is a big change. I'm not going to be 254 00:13:56,700 --> 00:13:58,469 Becs Gentry: racing it at all. I'm going to let you guys 255 00:13:58,470 --> 00:14:01,890 Becs Gentry: burn the pavements up for that one. But with that 256 00:14:01,890 --> 00:14:06,630 Becs Gentry: being said, I mean you go across multiple disciplines as 257 00:14:06,630 --> 00:14:11,160 Becs Gentry: well and you've had so much success in all these 258 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:16,620 Becs Gentry: different distances including breaking the British mile record, which as 259 00:14:16,620 --> 00:14:19,920 Becs Gentry: a Brit very proud of, well done. But how do 260 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,030 Becs Gentry: you balance training across all those different distances to be 261 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:25,080 Becs Gentry: as successful as you are? 262 00:14:26,910 --> 00:14:30,150 Josh Kerr: That's a very nice compliment. Thank you. So for me, 263 00:14:30,570 --> 00:14:32,970 Josh Kerr: training doesn't really differ all that much to be honest. 264 00:14:32,970 --> 00:14:35,970 Josh Kerr: So I don't run a ton of mileage. I run 265 00:14:35,970 --> 00:14:40,680 Josh Kerr: anywhere between 65 and 73 miles a week. That never really 266 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,560 Josh Kerr: changes too much. The sessions will get a little bit 267 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,740 Josh Kerr: more specific when it comes down to like if I'm 268 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:50,580 Josh Kerr: training through the fall for a half, then I'll push 269 00:14:50,580 --> 00:14:52,650 Josh Kerr: the long run a little bit, maybe throw some sessions in 270 00:14:52,650 --> 00:14:57,090 Josh Kerr: there and then, when it comes to indoor season, maybe 271 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,670 Josh Kerr: we'll take the foot off the gas with those long runs 272 00:14:59,670 --> 00:15:02,790 Josh Kerr: and focus a bit more on the shorter sharper session. 273 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:06,060 Josh Kerr: So nothing changes all too much. I think if you 274 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,280 Josh Kerr: can race at a high level at a mile, you're 275 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,850 Josh Kerr: probably going to be really good at the five. And 276 00:15:11,850 --> 00:15:13,410 Josh Kerr: hopefully, you've got to turn the speed for the eight. 277 00:15:13,410 --> 00:15:16,980 Josh Kerr: So for me it's just not trying to defer too 278 00:15:16,980 --> 00:15:21,060 Josh Kerr: much outside my range, but also, challenging myself and keeping 279 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:23,850 Josh Kerr: myself interested in what I'm doing. It's just consistency. I 280 00:15:23,850 --> 00:15:25,440 Josh Kerr: think if you can run a really good mile, you're 281 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,780 Josh Kerr: going to be, yeah, pretty good across the board. 282 00:15:29,070 --> 00:15:33,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: Josh, I was very fortunate to be in the building 283 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the Stade de France in Paris during the final 284 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: of the 1500 and it was something I will certainly 285 00:15:42,510 --> 00:15:46,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: never forget. I think anyone who was there will never forget 286 00:15:46,740 --> 00:15:50,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: watching that race. I want to ask you, because there 287 00:15:50,130 --> 00:15:56,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: are athletes who go back and play events and races 288 00:15:56,460 --> 00:16:00,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: and games over in their head again and again and 289 00:16:00,420 --> 00:16:03,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: again, especially when maybe they didn't turn out quite the 290 00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:05,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: way they'd hoped that they would and then, there are 291 00:16:05,820 --> 00:16:09,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: those that turn the page and never look back. I'm 292 00:16:09,330 --> 00:16:13,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: wondering how many times, if at all, have you gone 293 00:16:13,830 --> 00:16:16,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: back in your mind or even gone back and watched 294 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: video of that race to think about what happened? 295 00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:25,050 Josh Kerr: Yeah, it's a great question. I think I would love 296 00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:30,090 Josh Kerr: to say, " Oh, it was a great day and I've moved 297 00:16:30,090 --> 00:16:34,680 Josh Kerr: on from it and we'll learn from it and whatever." 298 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:39,359 Josh Kerr: But for me, you play that scenario multiple times, but 299 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,910 Josh Kerr: for me, it went well. I did everything that I 300 00:16:41,910 --> 00:16:45,810 Josh Kerr: could to bring that result home. And so, that's what 301 00:16:45,810 --> 00:16:48,450 Josh Kerr: allows me to rest easy. There was not really any 302 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,350 Josh Kerr: major mistakes. I sit and have meetings with all my 303 00:16:52,350 --> 00:16:55,320 Josh Kerr: staff and every single one of them was like, " We 304 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,150 Josh Kerr: could have done this or we could have done this, 305 00:16:57,150 --> 00:16:58,380 Josh Kerr: we could have done this." I was like, " Guys, we 306 00:16:58,380 --> 00:17:03,360 Josh Kerr: just ran 3: 27 and a final, of one of 307 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,109 Josh Kerr: the biggest events of our life and we ran a 308 00:17:07,170 --> 00:17:10,919 Josh Kerr: second and a half PB." And there's just not really anything 309 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,720 Josh Kerr: else we can do as if we can get into 310 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,300 Josh Kerr: the shape again next year, we will win. If we 311 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:17,159 Josh Kerr: get into that shape again the year after, we will 312 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,240 Josh Kerr: win. It's not ... We can't try and change the whole 313 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,700 Josh Kerr: model because we lost by 0. 14 of a second in 314 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,290 Josh Kerr: the fastest race in history during that event. So yeah, 315 00:17:28,290 --> 00:17:32,490 Josh Kerr: it's a balance. It's hard, but it's a big achievement 316 00:17:32,490 --> 00:17:36,030 Josh Kerr: still. I'm not really someone that likes to celebrate silver 317 00:17:36,030 --> 00:17:38,580 Josh Kerr: too much, but it is what it is. 318 00:17:39,419 --> 00:17:45,119 Becs Gentry: Well, I think everybody who watched that race is blown 319 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,859 Becs Gentry: away by yours and everyone else's performance because in the 320 00:17:49,859 --> 00:17:53,910 Becs Gentry: end, Jakob set a very fast pace as you guys 321 00:17:53,910 --> 00:17:59,730 Becs Gentry: set out. And I think we as in the mere 322 00:17:59,730 --> 00:18:05,160 Becs Gentry: mortals, we don't hear what actually happens within the athletes' 323 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,490 Becs Gentry: relationships, but the media does portray that there was fierce 324 00:18:08,490 --> 00:18:12,690 Becs Gentry: competition between everyone and whatever happens happens. That's got to 325 00:18:12,690 --> 00:18:21,090 Becs Gentry: be clickbait. But how did the competition between you Ingebrigtsen and the 326 00:18:21,090 --> 00:18:23,490 Becs Gentry: level that you wanted to perform at, how did that 327 00:18:23,490 --> 00:18:26,459 Becs Gentry: affect your strategy on the day when he went out 328 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:29,040 Becs Gentry: at that astoundingly fast pace? 329 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Josh Kerr: Yeah, I think for us this year, it's been a big build 330 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,570 Josh Kerr: up since August of last year, kind of that rivalry 331 00:18:36,570 --> 00:18:39,330 Josh Kerr: or the back and forth and the media stuff. And 332 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,570 Josh Kerr: I can't thrive off it. I love high pressure environments. 333 00:18:42,570 --> 00:18:45,180 Josh Kerr: I think it makes me run extremely well. And so 334 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:48,119 Josh Kerr: the kind of more pressure I'm piled on, the kind of 335 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,900 Josh Kerr: better and more focus that I feel. So I thrive 336 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:55,649 Josh Kerr: in those Olympic final situations and it also makes for a 337 00:18:55,650 --> 00:18:59,100 Josh Kerr: really fun race for people to watch. So that's the 338 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:02,609 Josh Kerr: biggest thing for me, just making sure that I had 339 00:19:02,609 --> 00:19:04,680 Josh Kerr: as much pressure on me as possible, to be honest. 340 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,740 Josh Kerr: So I was talking the way that I want to talk 341 00:19:07,740 --> 00:19:11,550 Josh Kerr: and again, it made people in the stadium understand what 342 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:13,740 Josh Kerr: was really on the line, which is funny at that 343 00:19:13,740 --> 00:19:18,510 Josh Kerr: competition that you got to keep it interesting. But yeah, when 344 00:19:18,510 --> 00:19:20,550 Josh Kerr: he went out, I was like, " Okay, I kind of thought 345 00:19:20,550 --> 00:19:22,260 Josh Kerr: this was going to happen." It's time to just weather 346 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,130 Josh Kerr: the storm a little bit, because I think it's very 347 00:19:26,130 --> 00:19:29,010 Josh Kerr: difficult to front run without any pacers, that kind of 348 00:19:29,580 --> 00:19:31,410 Josh Kerr: effort. And I do think at the top end, we're 349 00:19:31,410 --> 00:19:33,869 Josh Kerr: within half a second of each other, so it's not 350 00:19:33,869 --> 00:19:36,389 Josh Kerr: like someone is going to run away from a field 351 00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:40,619 Josh Kerr: that is so good. So yeah, it was a balance. 352 00:19:40,859 --> 00:19:42,630 Josh Kerr: You got to keep your emotions in check. I mean, 353 00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:45,510 Josh Kerr: it's a stadium of 80 odd thousand people screaming their 354 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:49,080 Josh Kerr: heads off and wanting to see what's going to happen 355 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,619 Josh Kerr: at the finish. Yeah, there was ... I think once everyone 356 00:19:52,619 --> 00:19:54,750 Josh Kerr: is settled in, there was still 1200 to go, so 357 00:19:54,750 --> 00:19:57,210 Josh Kerr: it was like, okay, there's a lot of running here. 358 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,910 Josh Kerr: So it was definitely one of those ones where you're 359 00:19:59,910 --> 00:20:01,859 Josh Kerr: in it and you're like, " Damn, this would be a 360 00:20:01,859 --> 00:20:05,190 Josh Kerr: hell of a watch." But I enjoy racing in it for sure. 361 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: It was a hell of a watch, let me tell 362 00:20:07,650 --> 00:20:12,149 Rob Simmelkjaer: you. So where I was sitting at the Stade de 363 00:20:12,150 --> 00:20:16,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: France on the backstretch, watching with my own naked eyes 364 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,149 Rob Simmelkjaer: and just seeing what looked to me ... Of course, I'm 365 00:20:21,150 --> 00:20:23,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: an American, I'm not going to lie. So I'm focused 366 00:20:23,250 --> 00:20:25,981 Rob Simmelkjaer: on Cole, a good bit. 367 00:20:25,981 --> 00:20:25,982 Becs Gentry: I was not. 368 00:20:25,982 --> 00:20:34,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yes, I understand. Watching the two Americans in that race, 369 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:40,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: obviously Yared as well. And it just ... To see when the 370 00:20:41,250 --> 00:20:45,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: opening occurred for him, Cole, the way he shot through, 371 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: it looked like he'd been shut out of a cannon. 372 00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:51,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: And I just wonder from your perspective on the track, 373 00:20:52,350 --> 00:20:55,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: could you just take us through those final, say 200 374 00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:59,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: meters and what you saw and when you realized things 375 00:20:59,580 --> 00:21:00,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: were going to play out the way they did? 376 00:21:01,710 --> 00:21:05,399 Josh Kerr: Yeah, so for me, there's two times you need to 377 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,520 Josh Kerr: look up at the clock during those time things or 378 00:21:08,790 --> 00:21:12,450 Josh Kerr: time trials. One is the first four on split, kind 379 00:21:12,450 --> 00:21:14,730 Josh Kerr: of figure out where you're at. The next one is 380 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:17,010 Josh Kerr: probably 400 to go, to see how much you got 381 00:21:17,010 --> 00:21:19,440 Josh Kerr: left from the tank. So other than that, you're staring 382 00:21:19,470 --> 00:21:21,990 Josh Kerr: at the floor and praying at the heavens that this 383 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:25,859 Josh Kerr: pain will finish and you're fine. So I checked the 384 00:21:25,859 --> 00:21:28,530 Josh Kerr: four on split. I was like, we are ripping. We're 385 00:21:28,530 --> 00:21:31,140 Josh Kerr: cooking here. And then, I was like. All right, well 386 00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:33,150 Josh Kerr: we're just here now. So I didn't look at the eight 387 00:21:33,150 --> 00:21:36,450 Josh Kerr: split, but I looked at the 1100 split at the bell. 388 00:21:36,750 --> 00:21:38,400 Josh Kerr: I was like, actually, we've slowed down a good bit. 389 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,790 Josh Kerr: We're going to have a solid amount left. So moved 390 00:21:41,790 --> 00:21:46,080 Josh Kerr: up on the back stretch. I could see Ingebrigtsen was looking 391 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,230 Josh Kerr: around a lot and at that point I was like, " Okay, 392 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,950 Josh Kerr: he's spent as he should be." There's no human on 393 00:21:55,950 --> 00:22:00,060 Josh Kerr: this planet that can front run like that without help. So I was like, " 394 00:22:00,270 --> 00:22:02,970 Josh Kerr: Okay, he's spent ... I've got him exactly where I need 395 00:22:02,970 --> 00:22:05,040 Josh Kerr: him, and just make sure he doesn't have too much 396 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,659 Josh Kerr: of a gap." I was going to go at 200, 397 00:22:06,660 --> 00:22:08,669 Josh Kerr: but I didn't and just kind of wait, because I was 398 00:22:08,670 --> 00:22:10,889 Josh Kerr: like, I'm going to need as much as I've got. 399 00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:13,649 Josh Kerr: Wane had started to come out a little bit. My 400 00:22:13,650 --> 00:22:16,890 Josh Kerr: goal was to go at 120, take the sting out 401 00:22:16,890 --> 00:22:19,350 Josh Kerr: the legs because everyone kind of normally wanes to that 402 00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:22,650 Josh Kerr: 100 mark. And so wane until 120. Started to move 403 00:22:22,650 --> 00:22:25,800 Josh Kerr: and he started to move and he started to move out. And that was a 404 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,990 Josh Kerr: little bit frustrating because I could feel there was more 405 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:32,340 Josh Kerr: people around us. So I settled back again so that 406 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:35,550 Josh Kerr: he would close the door, and back on the inside 407 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,970 Josh Kerr: and then, I just went again at 100 and then, the 408 00:22:38,970 --> 00:22:42,359 Josh Kerr: gap opened up on the inside and I knew with 409 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,359 Josh Kerr: about 70 meters to go that there was too much 410 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,909 Josh Kerr: track for me. And then, once that happened, it was 411 00:22:50,910 --> 00:22:53,310 Josh Kerr: like I need to get to the line as quickly as 412 00:22:53,310 --> 00:22:58,770 Josh Kerr: possible because we were, yeah, absolutely cooked and yeah, just 413 00:22:58,770 --> 00:23:01,320 Josh Kerr: keeping the head on straight, pumping the knees and the 414 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,129 Josh Kerr: arms and getting to the line and just dipping for your life for 0. 415 00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:09,330 Josh Kerr: 01 there. So yeah, it was a whirlwind, but I'll 416 00:23:09,330 --> 00:23:14,220 Josh Kerr: always remember, I like to ... I had an interview with 417 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:17,280 Josh Kerr: Steve Graham last year. And he said, " Josh, you'll watch 418 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,520 Josh Kerr: that race way more times than you've ran it. Just 419 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,070 Josh Kerr: remember what it's like to see it from your own 420 00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:27,149 Josh Kerr: eyes rather than from everyone else's." So I definitely have 421 00:23:27,150 --> 00:23:32,100 Josh Kerr: those take that moment to just understand it from my 422 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,919 Josh Kerr: own perspective. And again, it was one of those races 423 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,380 Josh Kerr: where this is everything I've got. And the nice thing was 424 00:23:37,380 --> 00:23:39,510 Josh Kerr: running that British record, I think that helped a lot. 425 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:41,490 Josh Kerr: I've been going after that for about six years. So 426 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,530 Josh Kerr: getting that one a second faster is a big achievement 427 00:23:46,530 --> 00:23:47,070 Josh Kerr: for me as well. 428 00:23:47,970 --> 00:23:50,310 Becs Gentry: My gosh. I love that. What a wonderful piece of 429 00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:55,680 Becs Gentry: advice to see it through your own eyes. Did that 430 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:01,590 Becs Gentry: help you, do you think, in your post- race mental health, 431 00:24:01,619 --> 00:24:06,660 Becs Gentry: in your reactions because you came over the line, you 432 00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:13,170 Becs Gentry: secured an amazing silver. And then, your fiercest most popular 433 00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:18,869 Becs Gentry: competitor came in forth, you were so gracious, your sportsmanship 434 00:24:18,869 --> 00:24:23,340 Becs Gentry: with Cole Hocker, with Yared Nuguse was beautiful to see. And 435 00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:24,900 Becs Gentry: I'm not just saying that because you're a Brit and 436 00:24:24,900 --> 00:24:28,409 Becs Gentry: I'm fiercely on our side, but it really was, there 437 00:24:28,410 --> 00:24:33,420 Becs Gentry: was such sportsmanship going on between you and does that 438 00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:38,700 Becs Gentry: sort of, changing your perspective into running your own race 439 00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:40,680 Becs Gentry: help you then get to that finish line and be like, " 440 00:24:40,770 --> 00:24:41,700 Becs Gentry: Nice job boys?" 441 00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:47,250 Josh Kerr: Yeah, I think it's been a long year and I 442 00:24:47,250 --> 00:24:50,190 Josh Kerr: had a really difficult camp coming in, in terms of just 443 00:24:50,190 --> 00:24:53,669 Josh Kerr: effort level. We've had a smooth year in terms of 444 00:24:53,670 --> 00:24:58,350 Josh Kerr: injuries, but it's been a hard year to run that 445 00:24:58,350 --> 00:25:03,030 Josh Kerr: fast. We're running and our sessions are hard and the 446 00:25:03,090 --> 00:25:06,570 Josh Kerr: diet is hard and having the most boring lifestyle in 447 00:25:06,570 --> 00:25:10,050 Josh Kerr: the world. So it's one of those things where if 448 00:25:10,050 --> 00:25:15,119 Josh Kerr: I get beat, it's like, " Damn, I know how hard 449 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,450 Josh Kerr: I've worked and to get to this point, you've just 450 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:21,629 Josh Kerr: beaten me in a really big moment in our sport, 451 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,920 Josh Kerr: and I have nothing but respect for that effort that you've 452 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,280 Josh Kerr: put in." As soon as we cross that finish line, 453 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:31,949 Josh Kerr: that's your moment. It's not mine and I'm not going 454 00:25:31,950 --> 00:25:34,560 Josh Kerr: to take away from that. You work too hard for 455 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Josh Kerr: me to make this about me. It's a very selfish way 456 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,590 Josh Kerr: of looking at things. So I wanted to do a 457 00:25:40,590 --> 00:25:42,840 Josh Kerr: lap of honor. I had a real struggle time jogging 458 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:48,030 Josh Kerr: around, but yeah, just to see my family and people 459 00:25:48,030 --> 00:25:51,449 Josh Kerr: that built my spikes and all my brands and stuff 460 00:25:51,450 --> 00:25:54,119 Josh Kerr: and share that moment with them because it's as much it 461 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,609 Josh Kerr: is for them than it is for me and try 462 00:25:56,609 --> 00:25:58,889 Josh Kerr: and soak it in as much as possible because we tried 463 00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:02,760 Josh Kerr: to make that the most interesting race of the games 464 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Josh Kerr: and I think we did a really good job at 465 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,580 Josh Kerr: that, just to keep all relevant throughout the year. And 466 00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:10,379 Josh Kerr: I think we really performed on the day when it 467 00:26:10,380 --> 00:26:13,199 Josh Kerr: mattered. So yeah, it was one of those things where 468 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,230 Josh Kerr: it was an end of a real big era of 469 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:22,139 Josh Kerr: back and forth, and I think the results were pretty 470 00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:24,450 Josh Kerr: representative of the day. I think that's the best way 471 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,470 Josh Kerr: you can describe it. 472 00:26:26,430 --> 00:26:28,709 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, Josh, if the goal was to make it the 473 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:33,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: most interesting race of the meet, you guys definitely succeeded 474 00:26:33,210 --> 00:26:37,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: because the talk has been nonstop. And I think one 475 00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:42,119 Rob Simmelkjaer: of the things that made it interesting was the anticipation, 476 00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:46,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: and the anticipation. So much of it is, is driven by 477 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: the personalities involved. People ask me all the time as 478 00:26:50,430 --> 00:26:53,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: the CEO of New York Roadrunners, how can we get 479 00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:57,119 Rob Simmelkjaer: more people to become fans of the sport of running? 480 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: How can we get more people interested in it? And 481 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:06,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: I look at you and Jakob Ingebrigtsen and the rivalry you 482 00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:09,149 Rob Simmelkjaer: guys have, the trash talking that you guys have and 483 00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:11,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: people can talk about that and say, " Oh, it's not 484 00:27:11,609 --> 00:27:16,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: sportsmanlike. It's this, it's that." But it's interesting and it 485 00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:21,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: draws people in and makes them care about the sport. And 486 00:27:21,270 --> 00:27:25,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: I just wonder, Josh, from your perspective, has that been 487 00:27:26,430 --> 00:27:28,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: part of what you think you've been able to add 488 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: to the sport, you and Jakob, both in the way 489 00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:34,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: that you approach it, approach talking about it, even approach 490 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: talking about each other and some of the other rivals 491 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: that you have in the sport? 492 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,609 Josh Kerr: Yeah. It's almost like we just need to take media 493 00:27:41,609 --> 00:27:45,690 Josh Kerr: training away from people and get people to talk honestly 494 00:27:45,690 --> 00:27:46,680 Josh Kerr: about how they feel. 495 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:46,740 Becs Gentry: Yeah. 496 00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:51,899 Josh Kerr: I think that's what makes combat sports interesting is if you 497 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,389 Josh Kerr: get hit in the face a couple of times, then 498 00:27:54,390 --> 00:27:56,580 Josh Kerr: you take the filter off some of your interviews, I 499 00:27:56,580 --> 00:28:01,230 Josh Kerr: guess. But I don't know, I think for me, to be in this sport, 500 00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:04,080 Josh Kerr: I want to win gold medals and I think that there's 501 00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:06,060 Josh Kerr: a fair few of us that want to do that 502 00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:09,030 Josh Kerr: in the 1500 and there's not that many medals to go around. 503 00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:14,879 Josh Kerr: That creates this bit of rivalry and I think a 504 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,889 Josh Kerr: lot of us are pretty confident in what we're doing 505 00:28:16,890 --> 00:28:20,190 Josh Kerr: and we know it makes it interesting as well. And 506 00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:23,700 Josh Kerr: I don't shy away from big moments. I really enjoy 507 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,490 Josh Kerr: those parts of the sports. Kind of the only big 508 00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:29,939 Josh Kerr: reason that I enjoy the sport is the big pressure 509 00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:32,580 Josh Kerr: moments. And I think I've shown that I can kind of 510 00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:36,720 Josh Kerr: perform at my best. I think every major final over 511 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,900 Josh Kerr: the last six years, I've been in and I've PB'd 512 00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:43,350 Josh Kerr: the season's best while in it. And so I just 513 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:45,510 Josh Kerr: enjoy it. I think it makes the sport fun. It 514 00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:47,820 Josh Kerr: also helps all the brands that we work with, all 515 00:28:47,820 --> 00:28:50,280 Josh Kerr: the races that we work with to show value as 516 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,160 Josh Kerr: well, because at the end of the day we can go out and run fast 517 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,010 Josh Kerr: and everyone is like, "Oh, okay, cool," or we can give 518 00:28:56,010 --> 00:28:58,980 Josh Kerr: some context and some storyline and get some viewership. 519 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,440 Becs Gentry: Yeah, absolutely. And it does change the narrative when there's 520 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:10,020 Becs Gentry: a bit of media toing and froing. It does engage and you're 521 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:12,870 Becs Gentry: sitting there and all of a sudden you don't quite know 522 00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:15,000 Becs Gentry: who you're rooting for, as you all are towing the 523 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,490 Becs Gentry: start line because you're like, " Well, that guy said that, 524 00:29:17,490 --> 00:29:19,080 Becs Gentry: but then that guy said that. This guy is my 525 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,860 Becs Gentry: countryman." And it's so confusing. I mean, I was screaming 526 00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:24,480 Becs Gentry: for you from the start, then all of a sudden I 527 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,050 Becs Gentry: was like, " No, go. I'm like, this is a go and it goes." It was, yeah, 528 00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:34,590 Becs Gentry: very confusing, but I digress. You talked about value there and value of 529 00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:39,480 Becs Gentry: the sport, value of training. And as that all comes 530 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,560 Becs Gentry: together, there is talk now of there being the introduction 531 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,960 Becs Gentry: of a little more prize money for the top finishers. 532 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,810 Becs Gentry: And in your opinion, how do you think that's going to 533 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:52,620 Becs Gentry: impact the sport of athletics? 534 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,300 Josh Kerr: Yeah, I think putting more money on the line is always 535 00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:02,880 Josh Kerr: going to increase competition. And again, we have to show 536 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,700 Josh Kerr: value to be able to receive that compensation. And it 537 00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:11,220 Josh Kerr: doesn't just start and finish with running fast, it just 538 00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:13,830 Josh Kerr: doesn't. No one wants to watch an anonymous fast race 539 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:18,510 Josh Kerr: and I truly believe that, but this is the tough 540 00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:20,550 Josh Kerr: part about our sport right now is we've just had 541 00:30:20,550 --> 00:30:25,710 Josh Kerr: a major championships. We've probably got another four time trials 542 00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:28,860 Josh Kerr: to come through from a 1500 standpoint, and I just have ... I've 543 00:30:28,860 --> 00:30:34,770 Josh Kerr: got absolutely no interest. I'll have an attempt at the 544 00:30:34,770 --> 00:30:38,430 Josh Kerr: world record, I think that'll be fun. But after that, 545 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,220 Josh Kerr: how many more times do we need to face 1500s 546 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,370 Josh Kerr: to see who the best 1500 runner in the world 547 00:30:44,370 --> 00:30:48,900 Josh Kerr: is? I don't find that interesting. I want to race 548 00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:52,770 Josh Kerr: these guys more often, but it's very boring to me. 549 00:30:52,770 --> 00:30:57,690 Josh Kerr: It's very one dimensional. So that's why I won't run 550 00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:02,250 Josh Kerr: the Diamond League final because we're going to have another ... 551 00:31:02,370 --> 00:31:04,320 Josh Kerr: I think I'm going to run Zurich Diamond League and 552 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,920 Josh Kerr: then, I'm going to run Fifth Ave and what an 553 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,110 Josh Kerr: awesome way to finish a season off. It's been a 554 00:31:10,110 --> 00:31:16,350 Josh Kerr: long year, but I don't know the whole pacemaker 1500. 555 00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:21,930 Josh Kerr: It's very samey and it's like how much faster can 556 00:31:21,930 --> 00:31:24,450 Josh Kerr: we really run? If you really want an attempt to 557 00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:27,780 Josh Kerr: the world record, you can do that multiple times. Talking 558 00:31:27,780 --> 00:31:31,860 Josh Kerr: from someone that runs under 3: 30 occasionally, most of 559 00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:33,930 Josh Kerr: the time I don't run a lot 1500s. It feels like you get hit 560 00:31:34,260 --> 00:31:36,810 Josh Kerr: by a bus and running 3: 27, it feels like you got hit 561 00:31:36,810 --> 00:31:40,050 Josh Kerr: by a train. So I don't know how people do 562 00:31:40,050 --> 00:31:42,810 Josh Kerr: it over and over again. I really don't. My body 563 00:31:42,810 --> 00:31:45,930 Josh Kerr: is unable to take that. Yeah, I think we just need 564 00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:49,470 Josh Kerr: to find ways to keep this sport interesting. New league 565 00:31:49,470 --> 00:31:52,469 Josh Kerr: coming in. I think that will keep it interesting. Road 566 00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:55,410 Josh Kerr: miles that keeps it interesting. There's so many things that 567 00:31:55,410 --> 00:31:58,800 Josh Kerr: we can do to big up what we're doing and 568 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,120 Josh Kerr: keep the viewership because we've grown definitely through major championships, 569 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,600 Josh Kerr: but how do we hold on to those people? And I 570 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,660 Josh Kerr: think it's just storylines, interesting races and that's what I'm 571 00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:10,530 Josh Kerr: trying to do with my career. 572 00:32:12,090 --> 00:32:15,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: Josh, have you had a chance since Paris to really 573 00:32:15,660 --> 00:32:19,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: talk to any of the other competitors? I don't know 574 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: if you and Jakob ever talked to each other offline 575 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: or Cole or Yared, any conversations? 576 00:32:26,730 --> 00:32:29,700 Josh Kerr: I spoke to the ... just for the medal ceremony, obviously, 577 00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:36,930 Josh Kerr: congratulating both those guys. And I was obviously lucky enough 578 00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:39,660 Josh Kerr: to have a medal before and so I've kind of 579 00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:43,110 Josh Kerr: been through a lot of that experience and just trying 580 00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:44,880 Josh Kerr: to share that as much as I could with those guys. 581 00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:49,560 Josh Kerr: So that was really nice. No, there's not really many. 582 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,030 Josh Kerr: For me outside of my country, there's not really a 583 00:32:54,030 --> 00:32:59,640 Josh Kerr: ton of friendship there. We can go on runs and 584 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,850 Josh Kerr: things, but we don't really chat. But between myself and 585 00:33:03,330 --> 00:33:06,600 Josh Kerr: Neil and Whiteman and Mills and stuff, like I'll chat 586 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,330 Josh Kerr: to them a lot, but outside of that, I don't have the 587 00:33:09,330 --> 00:33:11,730 Josh Kerr: most interest. I'm there. 588 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: There's no chat, text chain going with you and Jakob? 589 00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:21,600 Josh Kerr: We'll work out our beliefs, but I think it keeps 590 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,410 Josh Kerr: it interesting. 591 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: It does. I mean, one thing I have to say, and 592 00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:31,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: this is ... you can take or leave this question, but 593 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:34,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: okay, you had the run you had in Paris and 594 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:38,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: it was successful. How do you think you would feel 595 00:33:38,910 --> 00:33:41,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: if you were in Jakob's shoes after that race? 596 00:33:44,430 --> 00:33:50,340 Josh Kerr: It's a great question. I think a pretty deflating situation to 597 00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:54,060 Josh Kerr: walk away without anything, but obviously, coming away with the 598 00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,390 Josh Kerr: 5K situation as well. I mean that's great. Still exactly 599 00:34:00,390 --> 00:34:04,530 Josh Kerr: what he wanted, but it's not an event that anyone 600 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,130 Josh Kerr: cares as much about and it's difficult to say that, 601 00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:11,489 Josh Kerr: but I mean that's probably not the way that he 602 00:34:11,489 --> 00:34:15,000 Josh Kerr: would want to draw that up. So I don't know. 603 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,040 Josh Kerr: I think you do all the work in a race 604 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,020 Josh Kerr: and you come away with nothing is I'm sure quite 605 00:34:19,020 --> 00:34:22,980 Josh Kerr: difficult, but it doesn't give me any sleepless nights, I'll 606 00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:23,370 Josh Kerr: say that. 607 00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:30,839 Becs Gentry: I love this. I love this whole relationship. It needs to be more blown up. I mean, 608 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,460 Becs Gentry: don't go crazy, keep British. 609 00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:35,941 Rob Simmelkjaer: Stay classy, right? 610 00:34:35,940 --> 00:34:39,600 Becs Gentry: Yeah, stay classy with it. But I know us Brits can pack 611 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,760 Becs Gentry: a punch with a bit of dry humor here and 612 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:49,020 Becs Gentry: there. Josh, you talked about when you did your lap 613 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:52,109 Becs Gentry: after the race to go and see your family and 614 00:34:52,110 --> 00:34:58,050 Becs Gentry: your brands and both Rob and I are parents. And 615 00:34:59,670 --> 00:35:02,219 Becs Gentry: you've mentioned before in interviews that you always knew that 616 00:35:02,219 --> 00:35:05,880 Becs Gentry: you had potential in the sport, but thanks to the amazing 617 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,689 Becs Gentry: support of your family. So for you, what's that been 618 00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:12,000 Becs Gentry: like and how does that support you? 619 00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:20,279 Josh Kerr: Yeah, I think there's a great energy between me thinking I've got 620 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,279 Josh Kerr: potential, me getting told I've got potential and also having 621 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:29,310 Josh Kerr: a really supportive system like family members, teammates, coaching staff 622 00:35:29,310 --> 00:35:32,310 Josh Kerr: where they're like, " Yeah, we're here to be the best 623 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:37,050 Josh Kerr: in the world." And I think sometimes the media stuff is 624 00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:41,460 Josh Kerr: definitely new from my family. I think, every time they 625 00:35:41,460 --> 00:35:43,140 Josh Kerr: go to a meet now the media are like, " Okay, where 626 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:45,810 Josh Kerr: are you sitting? We want to be able to film 627 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:48,000 Josh Kerr: your reaction, or we want to come over to the 628 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,850 Josh Kerr: house and do an interview or we want to film 629 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,180 Josh Kerr: you guys going to a park run." It's new for 630 00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:57,750 Josh Kerr: them and that's not really their most comfortable situation. But 631 00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:03,060 Josh Kerr: I think they ... it's been such a slow progress that 632 00:36:03,090 --> 00:36:07,710 Josh Kerr: it's kind of ... sometimes they are like, " Oh, we don't 633 00:36:07,710 --> 00:36:09,600 Josh Kerr: realize how big a deal ..." Well, they know how big 634 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,540 Josh Kerr: a deal it is, but sometimes it does shock them 635 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:17,340 Josh Kerr: of like, " Oh, this is pretty insane." So yeah, it is just 636 00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:21,660 Josh Kerr: nice to have those people around. Everyone is very ... Yeah, 637 00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:23,640 Josh Kerr: I'm never really in the clouds too long. I'm brought 638 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,580 Josh Kerr: down to earth pretty quick on most things, but I 639 00:36:26,580 --> 00:36:30,000 Josh Kerr: think they were just mostly concerned to make sure that 640 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,290 Josh Kerr: I was okay after that race. And I am, I 641 00:36:34,290 --> 00:36:37,140 Josh Kerr: told them beforehand and I worked with a performance coach 642 00:36:37,410 --> 00:36:39,420 Josh Kerr: and we had a plan going in of what we 643 00:36:39,420 --> 00:36:42,330 Josh Kerr: were looking for and that was to run the way 644 00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:48,060 Josh Kerr: I ran and however those dice fall and that's the result we 645 00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:51,660 Josh Kerr: were going to have to be happy with. Because I'm 646 00:36:51,660 --> 00:36:55,890 Josh Kerr: unable to control anyone else's races. So that's what we 647 00:36:55,890 --> 00:36:58,200 Josh Kerr: mostly focus on is trying to be happy with our 648 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,739 Josh Kerr: own performance and not ... like they say the comparison is 649 00:37:01,739 --> 00:37:03,989 Josh Kerr: the thief of joy. So if we can just get 650 00:37:03,989 --> 00:37:06,960 Josh Kerr: better and compare ourselves to ourselves, then we know we're 651 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,000 Josh Kerr: making progress and we've got better every year. And again, 652 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,879 Josh Kerr: I think I'm the most consistent high level 1500 meter 653 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,310 Josh Kerr: runner in the world. I've been in every major final 654 00:37:17,310 --> 00:37:20,160 Josh Kerr: since 2019. I've been top six in every final since 655 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,580 Josh Kerr: 2019. And I don't think anyone else is really bringing 656 00:37:23,580 --> 00:37:26,009 Josh Kerr: those stats to the table outside of maybe Jakob. And 657 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,180 Josh Kerr: yeah, we're three three and O right now, I think, yeah. 658 00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:35,040 Becs Gentry: Yeah, just going to drop that one in there. 659 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,851 Josh Kerr: So I have to at least put those numbers out there. 660 00:37:38,850 --> 00:37:40,860 Becs Gentry: For now. For now. 661 00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:43,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. Well, you said it. I love that that 662 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: phrase comparison is the thief of joy. It's so true 663 00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:50,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: in so many aspects of life. You've got ... Josh, I 664 00:37:50,219 --> 00:37:53,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: can tell you've got some really good people around you 665 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:56,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: that put the right thoughts into your head because you've 666 00:37:56,460 --> 00:37:59,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: got to have those thoughts in your head to do 667 00:37:59,250 --> 00:38:00,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: what you do, which is great. I'm sure it's a 668 00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:04,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: big part of why you're as successful as you are. 669 00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:06,239 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hey, let's stop talking about running for a second. I 670 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: want to know, what did you do after Paris? Did 671 00:38:10,350 --> 00:38:13,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: you go to a beach somewhere? What are you going 672 00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:15,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: to do for the rest of the year to decompress, 673 00:38:15,870 --> 00:38:17,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: because it's been kind of an intense year. 674 00:38:17,969 --> 00:38:22,020 Josh Kerr: Yeah, it's been a very intense year. I think I 675 00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:25,830 Josh Kerr: signed up for the races before Paris, so I was 676 00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:28,560 Josh Kerr: like, okay, that takes my full attention if I commit 677 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,310 Josh Kerr: to something. So for me, it was finish that, spend 678 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:35,880 Josh Kerr: as much time with family that came out as possible. 679 00:38:36,510 --> 00:38:39,180 Josh Kerr: We had media every morning for hours and hours, so 680 00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:42,299 Josh Kerr: it was trying to get that balance. And then, I 681 00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:45,390 Josh Kerr: flew back to the US about five days later and 682 00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:48,960 Josh Kerr: I've been here ever since because it's very quiet here 683 00:38:48,989 --> 00:38:51,239 Josh Kerr: in Albuquerque. It's nice. No one knows who I am 684 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,989 Josh Kerr: and no one really cares other than my neighbors. And 685 00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:58,529 Josh Kerr: it's been great head down, just a bit of training and 686 00:38:59,460 --> 00:39:03,960 Josh Kerr: I took a bit of time off from my nutrition schedule and 687 00:39:05,130 --> 00:39:05,430 Josh Kerr: got back- 688 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:07,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: What does that mean, Josh? What are you eating that 689 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're not really supposed to eat? 690 00:39:09,630 --> 00:39:12,239 Josh Kerr: Well, I just gave my chef a week off so that 691 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,450 Josh Kerr: I could just go out and have some dinners out 692 00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:20,430 Josh Kerr: and celebrate with ... Danny was here when I got back. 693 00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:23,760 Josh Kerr: My assistant coach Julian was here, my manager was here, and 694 00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:26,520 Josh Kerr: so my performance coach was here, so we were just been spending 695 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,670 Josh Kerr: lots of time together and showing them the muzzle and 696 00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:33,480 Josh Kerr: all that stuff. So yeah, it was just nice to 697 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,670 Josh Kerr: give back to them a little bit before like okay, 698 00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:37,590 Josh Kerr: a little bit more work left to do. But I 699 00:39:37,590 --> 00:39:40,800 Josh Kerr: mean it's studying for a huge exam, doing the exam 700 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,620 Josh Kerr: and then everyone is like, all right, let's go and 701 00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:46,050 Josh Kerr: relax. And you're like, " Well, I need to study again." 702 00:39:48,090 --> 00:39:51,180 Josh Kerr: Super frustrating. But that's the way it goes and yeah, 703 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,160 Josh Kerr: it's mostly just kind of going out for dinners and 704 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,770 Josh Kerr: things like that. But that lasted three or four days and then I was 705 00:39:56,130 --> 00:39:59,609 Josh Kerr: like, right, there's more work here. And I think we can do some 706 00:39:59,969 --> 00:40:02,340 Josh Kerr: really fun stuff to keep the races interesting for the 707 00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:02,850 Josh Kerr: rest of the year. 708 00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:06,360 Becs Gentry: What is ... now, we're talking about food. I want to know though, what is ... you gave 709 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,450 Becs Gentry: your chef the week off. 710 00:40:09,870 --> 00:40:10,140 Josh Kerr: Yeah. 711 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,839 Becs Gentry: What did you go out to dinner and just be 712 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,399 Becs Gentry: like, I am eating that? 713 00:40:16,650 --> 00:40:19,440 Josh Kerr: It was kind of wild because it had been such a difficult 714 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,310 Josh Kerr: camp coming in that my fiance had put stuff in the 715 00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:27,239 Josh Kerr: fridge before she left knowing that I was craving certain ... 716 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,600 Josh Kerr: it was mostly sweet treats and things like some ice 717 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:36,930 Josh Kerr: cream sandwiches and some just real random ... what did we 718 00:40:36,930 --> 00:40:40,320 Josh Kerr: have when we came? Just pizzas and burgers and stupid stuff. 719 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,410 Josh Kerr: And we went to a couple of our favorite restaurants 720 00:40:43,410 --> 00:40:48,689 Josh Kerr: here and there was some tapas and some great just 721 00:40:48,690 --> 00:40:50,400 Josh Kerr: greasy rubbish food- 722 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:50,640 Becs Gentry: Wonderful. 723 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,840 Josh Kerr: That makes you feel terrible the next day and the run goes horrible 724 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,330 Josh Kerr: and then you're like, " Ah, it probably wasn't worth it," 725 00:40:57,330 --> 00:41:00,150 Josh Kerr: but it felt good at the time. And yeah, it's 726 00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:02,940 Josh Kerr: just trying to take the restraints off a little bit 727 00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:06,690 Josh Kerr: just to allow yourself to relax back into it. Because 728 00:41:06,690 --> 00:41:09,360 Josh Kerr: if you're too tight, it sometimes just goes the opposite 729 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,480 Josh Kerr: way and you lose joy of it. You can't really 730 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,939 Josh Kerr: keep those restraints on for too long or else, yeah, 731 00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:19,740 Josh Kerr: it becomes a kind of prison of your own making really. 732 00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:25,350 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. Well, I'm thrilled to hear that you got to enjoy the grease 733 00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:27,719 Becs Gentry: and the fats or the bad fat, should I say, 734 00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:31,950 Becs Gentry: and the time, the downtime with your team and your 735 00:41:31,950 --> 00:41:36,180 Becs Gentry: fiance. That's yeah, in Albuquerque, I've never been, but I'm 736 00:41:36,180 --> 00:41:37,590 Becs Gentry: sure it's quite different to Scotland. 737 00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:46,980 Josh Kerr: Rather. It's rather different. It's great weather, it's quiet. There's not a lot of people and there's mountains. So it's great. It's great balance for training and also 738 00:41:46,980 --> 00:41:48,750 Josh Kerr: just a nice lifestyle. It's great. 739 00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:51,810 Becs Gentry: Yeah. Good choice. Good choice. No disrespect. 740 00:41:52,739 --> 00:41:56,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: Josh, your fiance, Larimar Rodriguez, she has a track and 741 00:41:56,550 --> 00:42:01,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: field background as well. Ran in college right there in 742 00:42:01,110 --> 00:42:05,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: New Mexico. Do you guys talk about running much when 743 00:42:05,130 --> 00:42:07,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're together or do you just try to avoid it? 744 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,989 Josh Kerr: Yeah, so she had an awesome career at UNM as 745 00:42:12,989 --> 00:42:15,779 Josh Kerr: a pre- med student, so she was on scholarship, got 746 00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:18,420 Josh Kerr: through UNM and she went medical school and now she's a 747 00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:22,050 Josh Kerr: dermatologist. So she's had a really busy lifestyle, but what's 748 00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:24,960 Josh Kerr: really nice is she just understands my job and how 749 00:42:25,590 --> 00:42:28,770 Josh Kerr: weirdly difficult it is in certain ways and how nice 750 00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:32,190 Josh Kerr: it is in others. So yeah, I don't know, I 751 00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:37,020 Josh Kerr: definitely talk about running a good amount and she understands 752 00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:40,830 Josh Kerr: that, but also, it's just something that she did for a 753 00:42:40,830 --> 00:42:43,140 Josh Kerr: long time and she gets it and she knows where 754 00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:46,320 Josh Kerr: I need help and where to back off with things 755 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,680 Josh Kerr: as well. I mean her job just is more difficult 756 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:55,500 Josh Kerr: than mine from definitely a commitment and hourly rate. We're 757 00:42:55,620 --> 00:42:59,520 Josh Kerr: up at 5:30 and she's not back till five. And she's 758 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,280 Josh Kerr: grinding that out and it's super inspirational for me to 759 00:43:02,489 --> 00:43:04,560 Josh Kerr: get my work done and job done and be done 760 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,770 Josh Kerr: by five. So yeah, it's a nice balance. 761 00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:11,790 Becs Gentry: I love it, I love it, what a dream team 762 00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:18,330 Becs Gentry: together though, having the split but the balance. It's a good thing, 763 00:43:18,330 --> 00:43:20,250 Becs Gentry: and she didn't come to Paris with you? 764 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:21,450 Josh Kerr: She was there. 765 00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:22,320 Becs Gentry: She did come? 766 00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:25,020 Josh Kerr: Yeah, she was able to get some of her ... she 767 00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:28,230 Josh Kerr: had just started her second year residency, so she had 768 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:31,950 Josh Kerr: to get ... granted some holiday times and Vegas time and she got it, 769 00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:32,759 Josh Kerr: which was really nice. 770 00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:37,230 Becs Gentry: Amazing. So you got to spend a little bit of romantic time in Paris as 771 00:43:37,230 --> 00:43:37,890 Becs Gentry: well together. 772 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,040 Josh Kerr: Exactly. A bunch of Romantics. 773 00:43:42,810 --> 00:43:45,509 Rob Simmelkjaer: Speaking of great cities, Josh, as you get set to 774 00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:47,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: come to New York for the New Balance Fifth Avenue 775 00:43:47,489 --> 00:43:50,819 Rob Simmelkjaer: Mile, okay, other than running the race, what is your 776 00:43:50,820 --> 00:43:52,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: favorite thing to do in New York? Is there something 777 00:43:52,830 --> 00:43:55,319 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're looking forward to doing in the city? 778 00:43:55,860 --> 00:44:01,050 Josh Kerr: Yes, we are going to go and watch the Cursed Child, Harry 779 00:44:01,050 --> 00:44:06,060 Josh Kerr: Potter and Cursed Child in the theater. I think that's definitely ... so 780 00:44:06,090 --> 00:44:08,130 Josh Kerr: Larimar is coming, she's going to take the red eye 781 00:44:08,130 --> 00:44:11,610 Josh Kerr: on Friday night after work, get there Saturday. We're probably 782 00:44:11,610 --> 00:44:13,290 Josh Kerr: going to watch Harry Potter and the Cursed Child on 783 00:44:13,290 --> 00:44:17,250 Josh Kerr: Saturday night. Probably, so well, I don't know. We haven't figured that 784 00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:20,339 Josh Kerr: quite out yet, but that would be something ... I don't 785 00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:23,400 Josh Kerr: know. I mean I've raced a couple of times a 786 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,310 Josh Kerr: year in New York every single year and it's just 787 00:44:26,310 --> 00:44:31,170 Josh Kerr: such a great way to it, a great balance between 788 00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:35,070 Josh Kerr: putting great performance together and focus on the race, but also 789 00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:38,370 Josh Kerr: it's a very vibrant city. Very different to Albuquerque I 790 00:44:38,370 --> 00:44:42,360 Josh Kerr: would say. So it's just ... it is a nice change and 791 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,320 Josh Kerr: I really enjoy visiting. I think the city is pretty 792 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,049 Josh Kerr: electric and there's always stuff to do. Yeah, so just making 793 00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:51,810 Josh Kerr: sure that we enjoy it, but also, we focus on 794 00:44:51,810 --> 00:44:55,110 Josh Kerr: the task. I was actually watching the race back yesterday. 795 00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:59,580 Josh Kerr: I've got a couple ideas to try and win this 796 00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:02,550 Josh Kerr: one again, and I'll be working on that a little 797 00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:04,950 Josh Kerr: bit over the next couple of weeks of some ideas. 798 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:06,870 Josh Kerr: And yeah, I think we're just going to have a 799 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:08,430 Josh Kerr: blast. I think it'll be one to watch. 800 00:45:09,150 --> 00:45:11,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, I hope we get better weather for you than 801 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: last year because it was a rough day last year. 802 00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:18,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: We had some pretty rough weather. Some downpours and thunder, 803 00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:21,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: but I still remember standing at that finish line after 804 00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:24,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: the downpours had ceased and there were a lot of 805 00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:29,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: Union Jacks, a lot of British flags and Josh Kerr 806 00:45:29,219 --> 00:45:35,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: fans hanging around Grand Army Plaza, getting excited for you. 807 00:45:35,489 --> 00:45:38,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: So, it was really a great day and I know it'll 808 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: be another great day with you coming down Fifth Avenue 809 00:45:41,070 --> 00:45:44,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: again. So excited to have you and looking forward to 810 00:45:44,489 --> 00:45:46,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: seeing you in New York. Congrats on a great summer, 811 00:45:46,860 --> 00:45:50,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: a great, great result in Paris, and we look forward 812 00:45:50,430 --> 00:45:51,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: to seeing you on Fifth Avenue. 813 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:52,799 Josh Kerr: I appreciate it. Thank you very much guys. 814 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: Susan Huang is a lifelong New Yorker who set out 815 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:13,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: to fulfill a long held dream of running the New 816 00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:15,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: York City Marathon. But just as she laced up her 817 00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:20,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: shoes and began training life threw her a devastating curveball. 818 00:46:20,340 --> 00:46:22,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: News that could have stopped her right in her tracks. 819 00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:26,879 Rob Simmelkjaer: Instead, Susan turned her stride into a mission, using every 820 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: mile to raise money and awareness for a cause that 821 00:46:29,550 --> 00:46:32,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: is deeply personal to her and her family. In the 822 00:46:32,610 --> 00:46:36,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: face of adversity, Susan has found solace and strength in 823 00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:38,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: the steady rhythm of putting one foot in front of 824 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: the other. Meb, take it from here. 825 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,319 Meb: Thanks Rob. Welcome Susan. How are you doing today? 826 00:46:43,860 --> 00:46:46,560 Susan Huang: I'm good, thanks Meb. So nice to chat with you. 827 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,670 Meb: Thanks for being on the podcast, Susan. Last year, you 828 00:46:50,670 --> 00:46:54,960 Meb: began training for the first marathon for the 2023 TCS New York City 829 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,250 Meb: Marathon, your family, got some devastating news. Can you tell 830 00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:01,170 Meb: us our audience a little bit about it? 831 00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:04,830 Susan Huang: Yeah, of course. So I'm a lifelong New Yorker, born 832 00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:06,930 Susan Huang: in New York City, raised in Brooklyn. I grew up 833 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,460 Susan Huang: watching Marathon Sunday. The day is just positively electric. Running 834 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,180 Susan Huang: has always been on my bucket list. During COVID, I 835 00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:17,070 Susan Huang: decided that if I was going to run my first 836 00:47:17,070 --> 00:47:20,009 Susan Huang: marathon, it needed to be the iconic New York City 837 00:47:20,010 --> 00:47:24,570 Susan Huang: Marathon in November, 2023 before my milestone 40th birthday. I 838 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,550 Susan Huang: mean, who cares if I could barely run a city 839 00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:29,489 Susan Huang: block, right? At the end of day day, I had 840 00:47:29,489 --> 00:47:30,930 Susan Huang: this goal in mind and I said I was going 841 00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:35,250 Susan Huang: to do it. So I started running 15 minutes a day in 2021, and that eventually 842 00:47:35,250 --> 00:47:39,630 Susan Huang: progressed to 10Ks and half marathons. I spent two years 843 00:47:39,810 --> 00:47:43,140 Susan Huang: singularly focused on this one goal of running the 2023 844 00:47:43,469 --> 00:47:46,379 Susan Huang: New York City Marathon. And I remember the excitement of 845 00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:50,820 Susan Huang: settling on a 16- week training plan and anticipation of starting training 846 00:47:50,820 --> 00:47:53,190 Susan Huang: for what felt like a new chapter of my life. 847 00:47:54,750 --> 00:47:57,570 Susan Huang: Mentally visualizing what the course would look like, a marathon 848 00:47:57,570 --> 00:48:00,000 Susan Huang: day To say that I was excited was such an 849 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,860 Susan Huang: understatement. But unfortunately, life had other plans, as they often 850 00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:09,029 Susan Huang: do. On July 18th, 2023, right as I began training for 851 00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:12,480 Susan Huang: my first marathon, my seven- year- old son, Oliver, was 852 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,440 Susan Huang: actually diagnosed with Duchenne muscular dystrophy. And to tell you 853 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,520 Susan Huang: a little bit about Duchenne muscular dystrophy, it's actually a 854 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,150 Susan Huang: rare genetic condition that affects boys. It's characterized by the 855 00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:28,920 Susan Huang: progressive loss of muscle. It's a condition that's due to 856 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,620 Susan Huang: the lack of dystrophin and affects all parts of the 857 00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:35,370 Susan Huang: body. Dystrophin effectively acts as a shock absorber for the 858 00:48:35,370 --> 00:48:38,969 Susan Huang: muscles and the lack of it results in deterioration of 859 00:48:38,969 --> 00:48:43,140 Susan Huang: the skeletal heart and lung muscles and slowly robs one 860 00:48:43,260 --> 00:48:47,280 Susan Huang: of their ability to walk, move, and eventually breathe. So 861 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,779 Susan Huang: at the start of the marathon training, we were just handed 862 00:48:51,780 --> 00:48:55,440 Susan Huang: this devastating diagnosis. And for once in my life, I 863 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,930 Susan Huang: just didn't know how I was going to put one foot in front of 864 00:48:57,930 --> 00:49:01,680 Susan Huang: another, let alone to that foot 26. 2 miles straight. 865 00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:05,310 Meb: Well, sorry to hear about the sad news, but you 866 00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:07,650 Meb: sharing it to be something positive, to the best I 867 00:49:07,650 --> 00:49:10,319 Meb: can, you don't consider yourself as a runner, but if 868 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,050 Meb: you can find a cure to ... to cure Oliver, you will 869 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,770 Meb: run a million miles. How has that affect your view 870 00:49:16,770 --> 00:49:19,920 Meb: to be able to just go through your son's diagnosis? 871 00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:25,529 Susan Huang: Yeah, and so, it's so interesting because last year, I 872 00:49:25,590 --> 00:49:27,900 Susan Huang: didn't know how I was going to put one foot in front of another 873 00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:30,600 Susan Huang: and let alone do that for the full marathon. And 874 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:40,800 Susan Huang: I didn't know if I would have the mental focus to train for such an event. But my husband, well, said that I needed to keep going. Of course, I have to do it for him. 875 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,730 Susan Huang: I listened to him, but just kidding. The days following 876 00:49:44,730 --> 00:49:48,300 Susan Huang: that diagnosis was probably the darkest that I've ever experienced. 877 00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:51,239 Susan Huang: And I knew that I had to do, I had to do it for myself, for my 878 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,540 Susan Huang: family, for the Duchenne community. I decided that if I was going to run for 879 00:49:54,540 --> 00:49:57,360 Susan Huang: the marathon, run the New York City Marathon, I needed 880 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,340 Susan Huang: to do for my son and other boys like him. 881 00:49:59,340 --> 00:50:02,609 Susan Huang: So I did it, I checked off this bucket list 882 00:50:02,610 --> 00:50:04,860 Susan Huang: item. I helped raise money for a cause near and 883 00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:06,570 Susan Huang: dear to my heart, and most importantly, I did it 884 00:50:06,570 --> 00:50:11,759 Susan Huang: for him, my little Oliver. And I always say that I 885 00:50:12,060 --> 00:50:13,500 Susan Huang: would run a million miles. I would run to the 886 00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:15,390 Susan Huang: moon and back if that meant finding a cure for 887 00:50:15,390 --> 00:50:19,259 Susan Huang: Oliver. And I think that running and ... Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy 888 00:50:19,260 --> 00:50:23,130 Susan Huang: has truly changed my worldview in three primary ways. One 889 00:50:23,130 --> 00:50:26,550 Susan Huang: being resilience. Obviously this past year has been incredibly tough, 890 00:50:26,550 --> 00:50:30,600 Susan Huang: but running, pursuing this long- distance challenge like the New 891 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,150 Susan Huang: York City Marathon has been my source of strength. You're 892 00:50:33,150 --> 00:50:36,719 Susan Huang: out there every day in heat, humidity, rain or shine, 893 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,480 Susan Huang: sickness and health. And I learned so much about discipline during 894 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,020 Susan Huang: my first marathon training. And early on, everyone told me 895 00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:47,040 Susan Huang: the Duchenne journey is not a sprint, it's a marathon. 896 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,739 Susan Huang: And when it comes to that, you really need to have 897 00:50:49,739 --> 00:50:52,469 Susan Huang: that same level of endurance, if not more on the 898 00:50:52,469 --> 00:50:55,890 Susan Huang: mental, physical front to support your family through the good and 899 00:50:55,890 --> 00:51:01,529 Susan Huang: bad days because the disease is just relentless, unfortunately. In 900 00:51:01,530 --> 00:51:04,980 Susan Huang: addition, it's also given me a lot of confidence. Growing 901 00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:07,020 Susan Huang: up in New York, you get a lot of street credit 902 00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:11,100 Susan Huang: for being a native New Yorker. Also, when you tell 903 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,110 Susan Huang: people that you've run a marathon, especially in New York 904 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:15,719 Susan Huang: City one. So it's that toughness that has given me 905 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,020 Susan Huang: so much confidence, so much confidence to advocate for my son, 906 00:51:19,020 --> 00:51:21,299 Susan Huang: to never take no for an answer and to keep 907 00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:23,880 Susan Huang: pushing the boundaries of what's possible to give them the 908 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,850 Susan Huang: best life possible ... And the last thing is that it's 909 00:51:26,850 --> 00:51:29,640 Susan Huang: just really taught me to live in the present. When 910 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,219 Susan Huang: I'm running, I'm grounded in the experience of running at 911 00:51:32,219 --> 00:51:35,100 Susan Huang: that very moment. I listen, I feel my heart rate, 912 00:51:35,130 --> 00:51:38,820 Susan Huang: my breathing pattern. I sense my cadence, my emotions, the 913 00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:41,279 Susan Huang: weather and nature around me. It reminds me of the 914 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,640 Susan Huang: great fortune that I have in being able to wake 915 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,489 Susan Huang: up and live another day. And the sad reality is 916 00:51:47,489 --> 00:51:50,340 Susan Huang: that tomorrow is never guaranteed for anyone and especially so 917 00:51:50,850 --> 00:51:53,130 Susan Huang: for our boys with Duchenne I think about that a 918 00:51:53,130 --> 00:51:56,339 Susan Huang: lot and remind myself to be generous with myself, my 919 00:51:56,340 --> 00:51:59,009 Susan Huang: love and support for others. I think it's okay to 920 00:51:59,010 --> 00:52:01,500 Susan Huang: think about the future, but it's really important to be 921 00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:05,370 Susan Huang: grounded today and slow down because it's truly a gift. 922 00:52:07,050 --> 00:52:11,580 Meb: From being one and done Marathons, now, you're doing it for Oliver and 923 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,620 Meb: been present, been in the moment is so magnitudinal because 924 00:52:16,620 --> 00:52:18,569 Meb: even though the marathon, you're going to run 26. 2 925 00:52:18,570 --> 00:52:20,580 Meb: miles, but you got to be present the 5K to 926 00:52:20,580 --> 00:52:23,910 Meb: the 10K to the half- marathon. How do you mentally prepare for that 927 00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:27,540 Meb: or how Duchenne has helped you realize that moments? 928 00:52:28,439 --> 00:52:34,290 Susan Huang: Yeah, so I think before my son's Duchenne diagnosis, I just considered 929 00:52:34,290 --> 00:52:36,360 Susan Huang: myself to be a one- time runner. I'll just check 930 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,260 Susan Huang: things off the list, but I realized that a couple 931 00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:45,509 Susan Huang: of things happened. One, I think after every race, I 932 00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:50,430 Susan Huang: experienced a little bit of amnesia. After running the marathon. 933 00:52:50,430 --> 00:52:52,529 Susan Huang: I was like, " Well, within 24 hours." I was like, " 934 00:52:52,530 --> 00:52:56,009 Susan Huang: Oh, it wasn't that bad. I was already thinking about how maybe I could go even 935 00:52:56,010 --> 00:53:00,840 Susan Huang: a little faster, the next one." As luck would have it, as I 936 00:53:01,110 --> 00:53:04,230 Susan Huang: was prepping for the 2023 New York City Marathon, I 937 00:53:04,469 --> 00:53:07,860 Susan Huang: ended up qualifying for the '24 marathon through New York 938 00:53:07,860 --> 00:53:11,130 Susan Huang: Road Runner's amazing nine plus one program. So huge shout 939 00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:15,210 Susan Huang: out to that. And then, the last thing was a 940 00:53:15,210 --> 00:53:18,420 Susan Huang: month before the marathon, I decided to fundraise for Parent 941 00:53:18,420 --> 00:53:21,510 Susan Huang: Project Muscular Dystrophy, which is a leading non- profit dedicated 942 00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:25,680 Susan Huang: to the fight against Duchenne. I didn't expect to receive so 943 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,950 Susan Huang: much support from the community, and I did. And I'm 944 00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:33,450 Susan Huang: just so overwhelmed with emotion and gratefulness for that. And 945 00:53:33,450 --> 00:53:35,969 Susan Huang: I realized at that moment, at the end of it, as 946 00:53:35,969 --> 00:53:38,130 Susan Huang: I crossed the finish line, that it was just so 947 00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:41,760 Susan Huang: important to continue to raise awareness of Duchenne, to tell 948 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,129 Susan Huang: my story through running and to continue to do it 949 00:53:44,250 --> 00:53:46,200 Susan Huang: as long as I can for as much as I 950 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,210 Susan Huang: can. So it's really my son's diagnosis, the community that 951 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,359 Susan Huang: helps propel me forward and give me that inspiration to 952 00:53:54,570 --> 00:53:55,469 Susan Huang: keep moving forward. 953 00:53:56,759 --> 00:54:00,239 Meb: So Duchenne, life gives you lemon, you make a lemonade, 954 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,910 Meb: and this is something that you have done for all of our know 955 00:54:02,910 --> 00:54:06,360 Meb: devastating news, but now you are helping the Duchenne community 956 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,620 Meb: to fundraise and bring awareness. How been ... As a native of 957 00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:14,160 Meb: Brooklyn, how excited are you now to run the 2024 TCS 958 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,980 Meb: New York City Marathon with that purpose greater than yourself? 959 00:54:17,790 --> 00:54:22,020 Susan Huang: Yeah, I mean, I'm super psyched, as a lifelong New Yorker 960 00:54:22,140 --> 00:54:24,360 Susan Huang: who grew up in Brooklyn, it's just so hard to 961 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,140 Susan Huang: nail down what this means to me. The vibe and 962 00:54:28,140 --> 00:54:32,339 Susan Huang: the day is just indescribable. As you're crossing the Verrazano 963 00:54:32,340 --> 00:54:36,270 Susan Huang: into Brooklyn, the thunderous crowds in Bay Ridge, it's such 964 00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:39,840 Susan Huang: a special moment. And my family and my home is 965 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,660 Susan Huang: actually at mile seven in Park Slope. So it's really 966 00:54:42,660 --> 00:54:44,820 Susan Huang: nice to be able to see Oliver in person, have 967 00:54:44,820 --> 00:54:49,260 Susan Huang: him cheering me physically there and just keeping me motivated 968 00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:53,730 Susan Huang: as I move on. And so, it's just such a 969 00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:56,670 Susan Huang: wonderful day. It really brings out the best in everybody. 970 00:54:56,670 --> 00:54:59,370 Susan Huang: And I have to say my favorite part of the 971 00:54:59,370 --> 00:55:03,330 Susan Huang: marathon is really the marathoner's passion. Each and every woman, 972 00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:08,190 Susan Huang: no matter the age, ability, gender orientation background, all 50K 973 00:55:08,190 --> 00:55:11,730 Susan Huang: of them have such deeply personal reasons for why they're 974 00:55:11,730 --> 00:55:15,509 Susan Huang: there on that day. And that's just so humbling and 975 00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:20,431 Susan Huang: inspiring, and that is truly a beautiful event. 976 00:55:20,430 --> 00:55:23,370 Meb: Well, looking forward to seeing you at the TCS New York City Marathon, but 977 00:55:23,370 --> 00:55:26,250 Meb: before I let you go, this Saturday, September 7th is 978 00:55:26,250 --> 00:55:30,210 Meb: the World Duchenne Awareness Day. In light of that, what 979 00:55:30,210 --> 00:55:33,989 Meb: would you like our audience to know about the Duchenne disease? 980 00:55:35,009 --> 00:55:38,279 Susan Huang: Yeah, so thank you for mentioning that. I think that's so 981 00:55:39,090 --> 00:55:43,589 Susan Huang: wonderful. So the United Nations has officially designated September 7th 982 00:55:43,590 --> 00:55:46,830 Susan Huang: as a World Duchenne Awareness Day, and it's a day dedicated 983 00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:50,370 Susan Huang: to spreading knowledge, fostering empathy, and supporting the ongoing efforts 984 00:55:50,370 --> 00:55:54,840 Susan Huang: to find better treatments and ultimately a career. I mentioned 985 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,420 Susan Huang: earlier, I described a little bit about what is Duchenne, 986 00:55:58,050 --> 00:56:00,150 Susan Huang: but just to give a little bit more background, Duchenne 987 00:56:00,150 --> 00:56:03,330 Susan Huang: is the most common form of muscular dystrophy diagnosed in 988 00:56:03,330 --> 00:56:07,379 Susan Huang: childhood and affects approximately one in every 5, 000 male 989 00:56:07,380 --> 00:56:12,930 Susan Huang: births. About 20, 000 kids are diagnosed with Duchenne globally, and 990 00:56:12,930 --> 00:56:17,400 Susan Huang: the average lifespan is anywhere from 18 to 25 years. And sadly, 991 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,280 Susan Huang: there is no cure. And so, I just want the 992 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,630 Susan Huang: audience to know that in light of these dire circumstances, 993 00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:28,560 Susan Huang: the Duchenne community is amazingly resilient and incredibly determined. We 994 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,080 Susan Huang: invite everybody, irrespective of whether or not you have a 995 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,960 Susan Huang: personal connection to Duchenne, to join us in this fight 996 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,590 Susan Huang: for our families, for our boys and their future. Just 997 00:56:37,590 --> 00:56:40,530 Susan Huang: 10 years ago, families were actually told to go home 998 00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:42,569 Susan Huang: and just love their boys because there's nothing that can be 999 00:56:42,570 --> 00:56:45,420 Susan Huang: done. And so, fast- forward today, there's just been so 1000 00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:49,890 Susan Huang: much amazing progress in the therapeutic space to improve the 1001 00:56:49,890 --> 00:56:52,230 Susan Huang: quality of life and be able to move the average life 1002 00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:56,310 Susan Huang: expectancy to the upper range of the 18 to 25- year- old, as 1003 00:56:56,310 --> 00:56:59,549 Susan Huang: I mentioned. But so much more needs to be done 1004 00:56:59,550 --> 00:57:02,640 Susan Huang: and we can't do it alone. So we need really 1005 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,430 Susan Huang: continued support to keep that pipeline full so that every 1006 00:57:05,610 --> 00:57:09,180 Susan Huang: person with Duchenne has access to the treatments that they 1007 00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:13,140 Susan Huang: need. And so I'm putting somewhat a public plea out 1008 00:57:13,140 --> 00:57:18,060 Susan Huang: there, but to any of the listeners that have expertise and whether 1009 00:57:18,060 --> 00:57:21,630 Susan Huang: it'd be elevating care standards, asking legislators to support Duchenne 1010 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,670 Susan Huang: families, ensuring patient access to approved therapeutics and funding investment 1011 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,810 Susan Huang: and promising biotechs and therapeutics, I'm here for you. I 1012 00:57:30,810 --> 00:57:33,240 Susan Huang: want to talk to you. I would love to figure out 1013 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,780 Susan Huang: how we can get the ball rolling there. And separately, 1014 00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:39,870 Susan Huang: I just want to say that this is obviously, my 1015 00:57:39,870 --> 00:57:44,730 Susan Huang: family's personal journey with a very devastating diagnosis. And there's 1016 00:57:44,730 --> 00:57:49,470 Susan Huang: millions of other families out there with similarly tragic or 1017 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:54,090 Susan Huang: devastating circumstances. And I feel for you. I would love 1018 00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:57,570 Susan Huang: to connect with you. If anything I said today resonated 1019 00:57:57,570 --> 00:58:01,140 Susan Huang: with the folks out there, I'm here for you and I 1020 00:58:01,140 --> 00:58:03,750 Susan Huang: wish you nothing but strength, hope, and resilience. 1021 00:58:04,380 --> 00:58:07,440 Meb: Thank you Susan. And we wish Oliver and many others the best 1022 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,870 Meb: they can, quality life, and we're just grateful for you 1023 00:58:09,870 --> 00:58:12,450 Meb: that you run for him. And bring that awareness to the 1024 00:58:12,450 --> 00:58:14,371 Meb: Duchenne community and we wish you all the best in November. 1025 00:58:14,371 --> 00:58:19,350 Susan Huang: Great. Thank you so much for this opportunity to shine a spotlight on Duchenne. 1026 00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:22,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: Thank you so much Susan, for joining us, for sharing 1027 00:58:22,410 --> 00:58:25,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: your incredible story and for being a really inspiring member 1028 00:58:25,740 --> 00:58:28,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: of New York Roadrunners. We appreciate you. Now, to the 1029 00:58:28,740 --> 00:58:30,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: final part of our show, the Meb minutes. 1030 00:58:31,230 --> 00:58:35,430 Meb: Week eight, feel up properly. Nutrition played a critical role 1031 00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:38,160 Meb: in my training. I paid close attention to what I 1032 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,450 Meb: ate, ensuring that I got the right balance, carbohydrate, protein, 1033 00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:46,440 Meb: and fats. Proper fueling is a key process to engage, 1034 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,370 Meb: having a great energy and recovery. For example, for me, 1035 00:58:50,370 --> 00:58:52,860 Meb: before I go for a run, I'll have half a bagel with 1036 00:58:52,860 --> 00:58:57,330 Meb: almond, butter and honey, a UCAN, a banana and an electrolyte. 1037 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,030 Meb: This is the best way to sustain an energy. Once 1038 00:59:00,030 --> 00:59:01,920 Meb: you complete the workout, you want to be able to 1039 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,640 Meb: just replenish, hydrate properly so you can have the right 1040 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,850 Meb: food and be able to recover immediately as possible to 1041 00:59:08,850 --> 00:59:10,830 Meb: get ready for the next day or in my case, 1042 00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:14,190 Meb: it used to be for the afternoon run. So proper 1043 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,330 Meb: fueling is important. 1044 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right folks, we've reached the finish line of another 1045 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: episode of Set the Pace. We want to thank our 1046 00:59:20,370 --> 00:59:24,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: amazing guest today, Josh Kerr and Susan Huang. If you 1047 00:59:24,570 --> 00:59:27,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: liked the episode, please make sure you subscribe, rate it, 1048 00:59:27,870 --> 00:59:29,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: leave a comment. You can leave us a question in 1049 00:59:29,490 --> 00:59:32,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: the comments as well, that helps us hear from you 1050 00:59:32,070 --> 00:59:34,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: and also helps other people find the show as well. 1051 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: Good luck all you folks out there, training for whatever 1052 00:59:37,110 --> 00:59:39,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: it is. Berlin, Chicago, New York. Enjoy the miles.