1 00:00:00,210 --> 00:00:03,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Road Runners is a non- profit organization with 2 00:00:03,210 --> 00:00:06,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: a vision to build healthier lives and stronger communities through 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: the transformative power of running. The support of members and 4 00:00:10,230 --> 00:00:13,889 Rob Simmelkjaer: donors like you helps us achieve our mission to transform 5 00:00:13,889 --> 00:00:17,129 Rob Simmelkjaer: the health and well- being of our communities through inclusive 6 00:00:17,129 --> 00:00:21,419 Rob Simmelkjaer: and accessible running experiences empowering all to achieve their potential. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: Learn more and contribute at nyrr. org/ donate. 8 00:00:30,090 --> 00:00:34,528 Speaker 2: Thank you, New York. Today, we're reminded of the power 9 00:00:34,529 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: your mark. 11 00:00:42,090 --> 00:00:45,630 Speaker 3: The first woman to finish for the second straight year 12 00:00:45,630 --> 00:00:49,259 Speaker 3: here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling 13 00:00:49,259 --> 00:00:52,001 Speaker 3: Miki Gorman, and why not. 2:29: 30, (inaudible) . 14 00:00:54,029 --> 00:00:56,670 Speaker 4: Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes 15 00:00:56,670 --> 00:00:57,420 Speaker 4: to the line. 16 00:00:57,570 --> 00:01:01,620 Speaker 5: Pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA he so proudly 17 00:01:01,620 --> 00:01:05,002 Speaker 5: wears across his chest. A great day for Matt (inaudible) . 18 00:01:10,289 --> 00:01:13,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hey everybody, and welcome to another episode of Set the 19 00:01:13,110 --> 00:01:16,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace presented by Peloton. We are the official podcast of 20 00:01:16,740 --> 00:01:18,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Road Runners. I am your host and the 21 00:01:18,630 --> 00:01:22,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: CEO of NYRR Rob Simmelkjaer, and back with us this 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: week after a quick hiatus across the pond to her 23 00:01:25,799 --> 00:01:30,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: home country in the UK, Becs Gentry. Becs, great to 24 00:01:30,029 --> 00:01:32,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: have you back. I hope you had a great trip 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: home to see your family and a nice break for 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: the 4th of July as well. How you doing? 27 00:01:37,950 --> 00:01:41,039 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. So good to be back in the oven that 28 00:01:41,039 --> 00:01:44,669 Becs Gentry: is New York City right now. Trip to the UK 29 00:01:44,670 --> 00:01:50,670 Becs Gentry: was fantastic. I actually created my own amazing running routine 30 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:53,280 Becs Gentry: while I was there called Chronicles of the Naptime Run, 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,860 Becs Gentry: which I think people were really enjoying on my social. 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,150 Becs Gentry: My daughter, my partner was away in Paris for Fashion 33 00:02:00,150 --> 00:02:01,950 Becs Gentry: Week, so it was me, my mom and dad and 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Becs Gentry: the baby. And my parents are old and... Older. So naptimes were the 35 00:02:06,750 --> 00:02:09,328 Becs Gentry: only time I got to run and it was amazing. 36 00:02:09,330 --> 00:02:13,320 Becs Gentry: I would do the same route every single day and 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,429 Becs Gentry: every day I was just trying to get a little 38 00:02:14,429 --> 00:02:17,309 Becs Gentry: bit faster. It was... Oh my gosh, you know when you just get 39 00:02:17,309 --> 00:02:20,610 Becs Gentry: hooked on weird stuff when you're traveling, you're like, "I can do the 40 00:02:20,610 --> 00:02:23,579 Becs Gentry: same route every day in New York." And it was 41 00:02:23,579 --> 00:02:26,460 Becs Gentry: awesome, but very good family time. Very- 42 00:02:27,389 --> 00:02:27,991 Rob Simmelkjaer: How long are the naps? How long does- 43 00:02:27,991 --> 00:02:28,201 Becs Gentry: Two hours. Yeah. 44 00:02:30,810 --> 00:02:31,261 Rob Simmelkjaer: Two hours. That's a solid nap. That's really good. 45 00:02:31,261 --> 00:02:35,969 Becs Gentry: That's a solid nap, yeah. So got out there, got 46 00:02:35,969 --> 00:02:40,002 Becs Gentry: the run... Anywhere between six and eight miles (inaudible) 47 00:02:40,230 --> 00:02:41,130 Becs Gentry: could do with this double loop. 48 00:02:41,130 --> 00:02:44,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: A major assist to Tallulah for giving you that kind 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: of a window for being a two- hour napper because 50 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:50,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: not every kid is a two- hour napper. You got to 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:51,899 Rob Simmelkjaer: give the love for that. 52 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:55,320 Becs Gentry: Yep, 100%. But no, it was great. And then we had 53 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:57,690 Becs Gentry: 4th of July, my sister- in- law got married on 54 00:02:57,690 --> 00:03:00,479 Becs Gentry: the 3rd of July, so we had a big family celebration in 55 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,210 Becs Gentry: Philly and then we're at the Jersey Shore for the 56 00:03:03,210 --> 00:03:06,570 Becs Gentry: fireworks and the 4th celebration, which was very calm because 57 00:03:06,570 --> 00:03:10,080 Becs Gentry: we all celebrated wildly on the third. But we did 58 00:03:10,410 --> 00:03:12,629 Becs Gentry: the normal, we had the grill, we had the ice 59 00:03:12,630 --> 00:03:18,900 Becs Gentry: cream, and the family loving, which is important. How about 60 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:20,070 Becs Gentry: you? Did you celebrate too? 61 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:25,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: Beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, I had a great 4th. The 4th of July is probably my favorite holiday 62 00:03:25,590 --> 00:03:28,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: to be honest. I love it. I love the summertime, 63 00:03:28,740 --> 00:03:32,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love all the traditions, I love the fireworks and 64 00:03:32,309 --> 00:03:35,819 Rob Simmelkjaer: so I actually did not leave Westport, Connecticut where I 65 00:03:35,820 --> 00:03:38,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: live for most of the week and Westport is such 66 00:03:38,430 --> 00:03:41,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: a great place in the summer. A lot of beach 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: time, a lot of fireworks parties with friends and the 68 00:03:46,230 --> 00:03:48,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: kids were with me part of it. Anika was. Julie's 69 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:51,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: away in summer camp. So just had so much fun. 70 00:03:52,020 --> 00:03:54,449 Rob Simmelkjaer: The hard part definitely was trying to get some runs 71 00:03:54,450 --> 00:03:59,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: in. It is so hot right now and the humidity, 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,049 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs, just kills me and I'm trying now to get 73 00:04:04,050 --> 00:04:07,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: some decent runs in because I'm not going to announce 74 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:10,709 Rob Simmelkjaer: anything here today, but I'm thinking about maybe running a 75 00:04:11,070 --> 00:04:13,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: long race in the fall. Let's just put it that 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:19,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: way. And I am just struggling with this humidity. It 77 00:04:19,529 --> 00:04:23,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: feels twice as hard to me when the dew point's 78 00:04:23,219 --> 00:04:26,759 Rob Simmelkjaer: like 75 degrees, as it's been here lately, to just 79 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:30,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: go out and do what is called a, quote- unquote, " 80 00:04:30,029 --> 00:04:32,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: Easy run" in my training plan feels like race pace 81 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:35,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: to me. It is like, " Oh my god, how am 82 00:04:35,130 --> 00:04:38,339 Rob Simmelkjaer: I struggling this much to maintain this pace?" I just 83 00:04:38,339 --> 00:04:39,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: think humidity is a killer. 84 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:44,279 Becs Gentry: It really is. Yesterday it was hot, it climbed 21 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:49,710 Becs Gentry: degrees real feel while I was running yesterday. I did 86 00:04:49,710 --> 00:04:53,279 Becs Gentry: a half- marathon yesterday, I did 13 and 21 degrees 87 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Becs Gentry: real feal. But then this morning was- 88 00:04:55,441 --> 00:04:55,681 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's celsius- 89 00:04:55,950 --> 00:04:57,120 Becs Gentry: So much more humid- 90 00:04:57,510 --> 00:05:00,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: For Americans out there, that's probably like ninety- something, right? 91 00:05:01,559 --> 00:05:04,950 Becs Gentry: It went from 81... In American, it went from 81 to 92 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:10,738 Becs Gentry: 103 while I was running. But this morning, because the 93 00:05:10,740 --> 00:05:13,800 Becs Gentry: dew point was so much higher, we did like four 94 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,950 Becs Gentry: and a half miles and it felt like running through 95 00:05:17,339 --> 00:05:22,229 Becs Gentry: a hot sludgy oven. It was just... Yeah, it was 96 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:23,160 Becs Gentry: so difficult. 97 00:05:23,339 --> 00:05:27,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm finishing these runs, Becs, and it's like I got out 98 00:05:27,330 --> 00:05:30,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: of a swimming pool. I am soaking wet from head 99 00:05:30,690 --> 00:05:34,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: to toe. I'm grabbing a towel. It's just like this 100 00:05:34,620 --> 00:05:38,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: is bananas. So for everybody out there trying to get 101 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,279 Rob Simmelkjaer: your miles in, I know a lot of folks right 102 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,479 Rob Simmelkjaer: now are... If you're on one of those longer marathon 103 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: training plans for the TCS New York City Marathon, you 104 00:05:48,510 --> 00:05:52,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: may just be starting to do some of these runs 105 00:05:52,170 --> 00:05:54,779 Rob Simmelkjaer: and put in some miles now, or maybe you're running 106 00:05:54,779 --> 00:05:57,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: Berlin or Chicago or something like that and really into 107 00:05:57,599 --> 00:06:01,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: it, just we feel you because if you're on the 108 00:06:01,890 --> 00:06:04,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: East Coast right now or even out west where the 109 00:06:04,890 --> 00:06:08,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: heat is so high, less humidity, we know that it's 110 00:06:08,490 --> 00:06:11,789 Rob Simmelkjaer: a struggle. The only thing I can say is set 111 00:06:11,790 --> 00:06:14,789 Rob Simmelkjaer: that alarm clock. Get up early. If you're not doing 112 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:19,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: these runs before, for me, Becs, 8:00 A.M., it's over. By 9: 00, 113 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:22,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: game over. There's no way I can put a run 114 00:06:22,229 --> 00:06:26,099 Rob Simmelkjaer: in these conditions after by 9: 00 A.M. 115 00:06:26,099 --> 00:06:29,760 Becs Gentry: Yeah, I'm with you. I absolutely agree. And run with fluids. Even though 116 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:33,419 Becs Gentry: a lot of places have fantastic public water stations, don't 117 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:37,020 Becs Gentry: rely on them. And also if you are running later, 118 00:06:37,020 --> 00:06:39,118 Becs Gentry: they might've been baking in the sun and the water that you're 119 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,510 Becs Gentry: going to take is actually warm. So run with a 120 00:06:42,510 --> 00:06:45,390 Becs Gentry: bottle with some electrolytes in it. That's a good tip 121 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,910 Becs Gentry: from me as well. Also put a compression sock around 122 00:06:47,910 --> 00:06:50,099 Becs Gentry: your neck with ice cubes in, helps. 123 00:06:50,099 --> 00:06:54,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: 100%. Anything to cool the body down. All right, Becs, we 124 00:06:54,420 --> 00:06:57,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: have such a fun episode today. You're going to make 125 00:06:57,450 --> 00:06:59,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: a big announcement, which you've been teasing now for a 126 00:06:59,910 --> 00:07:02,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: while. I'm excited to share that with our audience, the 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: just really amazing thing you're going to do this fall. 128 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: That'll be coming up. And our guest today, David Kilgore, 129 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:14,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: will be about that thing as well. So that's a bit of a hint as to 130 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: what you're going to be announcing a little bit later 131 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: on. And folks, reminder, if you have a question for Becs or for 132 00:07:20,130 --> 00:07:22,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: Meb or for me, a great way to reach us 133 00:07:22,679 --> 00:07:26,189 Rob Simmelkjaer: is to leave a comment on Apple Podcasts with your 134 00:07:26,190 --> 00:07:28,499 Rob Simmelkjaer: question included and we'll be sure to answer it right 135 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:30,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: here on the show. Becs, last week we got a 136 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:35,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: question from Nola70124 who was looking for guidance on how 137 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: to host their own 5K as a local fundraising effort. 138 00:07:39,630 --> 00:07:42,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: So thanks for the question, Nola. I think a great 139 00:07:42,599 --> 00:07:44,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: step one if you're looking to do something like that 140 00:07:44,969 --> 00:07:48,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: is to reach out to your local parks and rec 141 00:07:48,180 --> 00:07:51,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: department. They'll first of all probably give you some great 142 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:54,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: tips on how to do an event. They may be 143 00:07:54,450 --> 00:07:57,389 Rob Simmelkjaer: able to give you a race organizer who's in the 144 00:07:57,389 --> 00:08:01,709 Rob Simmelkjaer: area, someone who's got the experience and course measurement and 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: timing and all the things you're going to need to 146 00:08:04,260 --> 00:08:06,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: put on an event like that. And then of course 147 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:08,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're going to need a permit from them any way 148 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: to put your event on if it's in a park 149 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:12,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: or if it's on the roads, you'll need help from 150 00:08:12,900 --> 00:08:16,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: the local authorities, police, things like that. So find that 151 00:08:16,170 --> 00:08:19,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: local contact who can help you do it. If there's 152 00:08:19,170 --> 00:08:22,379 Rob Simmelkjaer: another 5K in your area that you're familiar with, you 153 00:08:22,379 --> 00:08:24,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: could reach out to them and ask them for some 154 00:08:24,660 --> 00:08:26,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: help on how to do it as well. People in 155 00:08:26,730 --> 00:08:29,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: the running industry tend to be really helpful, friendly, they 156 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:32,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: want to help each other out. So those are good 157 00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:34,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: tips. And then another thing I would recommend is if 158 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: there's a local running store in your area that might 159 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,399 Rob Simmelkjaer: be willing to work with you to promote it, to 160 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: bring runners to it, to help organize it, because the 161 00:08:44,460 --> 00:08:47,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: running stores all want to serve the local runners in 162 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: a community. They'll appreciate you reaching out and can be 163 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: a good partner in something like that. So I wish 164 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:54,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: you luck with that, Nola. That's a great, great thing and 165 00:08:54,929 --> 00:08:56,458 Rob Simmelkjaer: a lot of people I know are trying to do 166 00:08:56,759 --> 00:08:57,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: that as well. 167 00:08:58,350 --> 00:09:01,650 Becs Gentry: Did you know that incorporating strength and cross- training is 168 00:09:01,650 --> 00:09:04,530 Becs Gentry: one of the most important parts of a runner's routine? 169 00:09:05,820 --> 00:09:08,970 Becs Gentry: The Peloton app's got you. With a collection of workouts 170 00:09:08,970 --> 00:09:11,699 Becs Gentry: you can easily add to your race training regimen, reaching 171 00:09:11,730 --> 00:09:15,539 Becs Gentry: each goal just got easier. 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I know our listeners are excited to hear 181 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: about it. And it also relates to our guests this 182 00:09:47,940 --> 00:09:50,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: week. So Becs, take it away. 183 00:09:50,549 --> 00:09:54,660 Becs Gentry: Oh my goodness, thank you. I guess this is it. 184 00:09:54,660 --> 00:09:57,270 Becs Gentry: I guess this is making it real and speaking to 185 00:09:57,270 --> 00:10:00,450 Becs Gentry: our guests will make it even more real. I have 186 00:10:00,450 --> 00:10:05,639 Becs Gentry: decided, thanks to our guest, to take part in the 187 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:09,749 Becs Gentry: Great World Race, which is seven marathons, seven days, seven 188 00:10:09,780 --> 00:10:13,710 Becs Gentry: continents happening mid- November this year. 189 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh my god. 190 00:10:15,210 --> 00:10:16,050 Becs Gentry: 168 hours. 191 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:18,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wait a second. Seven marathons. I just want to get this 192 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:22,889 Rob Simmelkjaer: straight. Seven marathons, seven days in a row. Not like 193 00:10:22,889 --> 00:10:25,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: seven days spread out by six months, seven days in 194 00:10:25,290 --> 00:10:27,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: a row on seven different continents? 195 00:10:27,780 --> 00:10:31,860 Becs Gentry: Yes. Yeah. So from the minute we start our first 196 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:36,929 Becs Gentry: race in, wait for it, wait for it, Antarctica, we 197 00:10:36,929 --> 00:10:43,290 Becs Gentry: have 168 hours to complete seven marathons around the world and 198 00:10:43,290 --> 00:10:49,679 Becs Gentry: finish our final race in the wonderful City of Miami. 199 00:10:51,630 --> 00:10:55,708 Rob Simmelkjaer: That may be both at the same time the craziest 200 00:10:55,710 --> 00:10:59,699 Rob Simmelkjaer: and coolest thing I've ever heard in my life. I 201 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:02,759 Rob Simmelkjaer: can't believe you're doing this, Becs. I'm so excited for 202 00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:08,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: you. I'm so scared for you. I'm just blown away 203 00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:09,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: that you're doing this. 204 00:11:10,380 --> 00:11:15,990 Becs Gentry: Me too. It's been a year in the making in 205 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:21,059 Becs Gentry: the convincing in my mind and in other people's minds 206 00:11:21,179 --> 00:11:26,580 Becs Gentry: and I think part of the reason why I've decided 207 00:11:26,580 --> 00:11:30,060 Becs Gentry: to do this, as I said, is our guest today. 208 00:11:31,260 --> 00:11:34,500 Becs Gentry: I'm going to take the reins in introducing this legend 209 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:38,070 Becs Gentry: of a human. I consider him a friend. I consider 210 00:11:38,070 --> 00:11:41,009 Becs Gentry: him a mentor. I consider him one of my biggest 211 00:11:41,010 --> 00:11:46,350 Becs Gentry: running inspirations. He and his beautiful wife, Molly, and their 212 00:11:46,410 --> 00:11:50,970 Becs Gentry: gorgeous little fur doggy are constantly traveling the world, putting 213 00:11:50,970 --> 00:11:53,790 Becs Gentry: in the miles with the biggest smiles on their faces. 214 00:11:53,790 --> 00:11:56,939 Becs Gentry: And I think if you know the Florida man at 215 00:11:56,940 --> 00:12:00,389 Becs Gentry: all, you know the legend. That is David Kilgore everybody. 216 00:12:00,389 --> 00:12:02,730 Becs Gentry: We are going to be talking to him very shortly 217 00:12:03,059 --> 00:12:05,100 Becs Gentry: and he's going to explain to us all how and 218 00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:08,040 Becs Gentry: why he convinced me to run this race, whether he 219 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:08,699 Becs Gentry: knows it or not. 220 00:12:10,139 --> 00:12:13,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: Unbelievable. Can't wait to hear from David. He'll be with us in 221 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:16,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: just a second and I just can't wait to hear 222 00:12:16,770 --> 00:12:19,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: more about how this happened, how he convinced you to 223 00:12:19,140 --> 00:12:23,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: do this and can't wait to follow this all as 224 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:26,759 Rob Simmelkjaer: it all plays out. It's amazing. Becs, congrats on the 225 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,458 Rob Simmelkjaer: announcement. Now it's real, you got to do it, and 226 00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:31,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: we're all going to wish you luck and follow it 227 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:34,949 Rob Simmelkjaer: as you go through this. My God. Wow, I'm exhausted 228 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:37,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: just talking about this. All right, before we bring David 229 00:12:37,830 --> 00:12:41,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: on, also our friend and trusted advisor, Meb Keflezighi is going to 230 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: join us a bit later in the show with local 231 00:12:44,910 --> 00:12:49,169 Rob Simmelkjaer: ultra runner Marie- Ange Brumelot who recently became the second- 232 00:12:49,170 --> 00:12:53,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: fastest female 100K runner of all time and she's a New York 233 00:12:53,850 --> 00:12:56,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: Road Runners member. So can't wait to hear from Marie- 234 00:12:56,970 --> 00:13:00,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: Ange. Then finally today, the Med Minute is appropriately a 235 00:13:00,210 --> 00:13:03,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: tip for those who are looking to up your mileage. 236 00:13:03,570 --> 00:13:06,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: And that is an understatement when it comes to our 237 00:13:06,330 --> 00:13:10,379 Rob Simmelkjaer: guest today, one of the world's best ultra marathoners. David 238 00:13:10,379 --> 00:13:14,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: Kilgore is the current reigning champion of the world Marathon 239 00:13:14,250 --> 00:13:16,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: challenge, this crazy thing that Becs just announced she's going 240 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:20,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: to do. He completed all seven marathons in under three 241 00:13:20,010 --> 00:13:22,889 Rob Simmelkjaer: and a half hours, but even that doesn't really do 242 00:13:22,889 --> 00:13:26,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: him justice because six of the seven were under three 243 00:13:26,070 --> 00:13:29,998 Rob Simmelkjaer: hours and his seventh marathon in the series of seven 244 00:13:30,420 --> 00:13:34,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: was his fastest, he finished in an astonishing 2 hours, 245 00:13:34,350 --> 00:13:39,569 Rob Simmelkjaer: 41 minutes and 50 seconds. This is not normal. David 246 00:13:39,570 --> 00:13:43,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: Kilgore, you are a beast of a man. Welcome to 247 00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:47,069 Rob Simmelkjaer: Set the Pace and congratulations on getting Becs to do this 248 00:13:47,340 --> 00:13:48,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: insane thing. 249 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:53,190 David Kilgore: Yeah, just hearing you talk about it is making me tired already. 250 00:13:53,730 --> 00:13:57,240 David Kilgore: I'm so excited though to have Becs on the journey this 251 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,590 David Kilgore: time around though. It's absolutely out of this world to 252 00:14:01,590 --> 00:14:05,189 David Kilgore: be able to go back on this trip and super, super 253 00:14:05,190 --> 00:14:06,960 David Kilgore: stoked to be on it again. 254 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,870 Becs Gentry: Yeah. A big memory for me was following you when 255 00:14:12,870 --> 00:14:18,300 Becs Gentry: you did the World Marathon Challenge last February, February 2023. 256 00:14:20,219 --> 00:14:23,309 Becs Gentry: I was in Florida, I was with my aunt and 257 00:14:23,309 --> 00:14:27,870 Becs Gentry: uncle and Austin and Tallulah, and you were out there. I 258 00:14:27,870 --> 00:14:31,230 Becs Gentry: was chatting with Molly, " What's happening, where is he?" And 259 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:36,210 Becs Gentry: she was just being... She always is the feed telling 260 00:14:36,210 --> 00:14:39,480 Becs Gentry: us all that you're alive and you're doing well. And 261 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,500 Becs Gentry: it was just enthralling. I don't know what happened to 262 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:46,859 Becs Gentry: me, but I became obsessed. I would wake up in 263 00:14:46,860 --> 00:14:49,380 Becs Gentry: the night and just be like, " Where is he? Is 264 00:14:49,380 --> 00:14:53,070 Becs Gentry: he okay? What's happening?" And my aunt and uncle were 265 00:14:53,130 --> 00:14:56,040 Becs Gentry: just watching me and they got obsessed too. They were like, " 266 00:14:56,070 --> 00:14:57,809 Becs Gentry: All right, we'll have the baby you guys drive to 267 00:14:57,809 --> 00:15:02,250 Becs Gentry: Miami, go and see him come in." It just was 268 00:15:02,550 --> 00:15:06,750 Becs Gentry: unreal watching you do that race but not just do 269 00:15:06,750 --> 00:15:10,680 Becs Gentry: it, but as Rob just said, crush those races. And 270 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,949 Becs Gentry: your Antarctic Marathon was still under four, right? 271 00:15:14,819 --> 00:15:21,480 David Kilgore: Yeah, it was around 3:20, but it was absolutely brutal when we got 272 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,160 David Kilgore: out there. We were actually the race organization, which the 273 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:32,280 David Kilgore: weather changes quite extensively, but they were like, " It might be a little 274 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,609 David Kilgore: cold, but I feel like you guys might luck out and 275 00:15:35,609 --> 00:15:39,000 David Kilgore: you might have the best weather ever, running... It's like 276 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,260 David Kilgore: shorts and a T- shirt is a possibility." We get 277 00:15:43,260 --> 00:15:47,219 David Kilgore: out there and it is absolutely blistering. I think it 278 00:15:47,219 --> 00:15:51,180 David Kilgore: was 50 mile an hour headwind and about negative 32. 279 00:15:51,540 --> 00:15:54,509 David Kilgore: So everybody gets off the plane and is throwing every 280 00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:59,610 David Kilgore: single thing that they own on. So yeah, definitely one 281 00:15:59,910 --> 00:16:03,630 David Kilgore: piece of advice is to yeah, bring some extra layers 282 00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:05,759 David Kilgore: for that. I think I ended up wearing a few 283 00:16:05,759 --> 00:16:08,279 David Kilgore: pairs of tights, but I also wore a pair of 284 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,389 David Kilgore: dress pants for the first half of the race because 285 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:13,620 David Kilgore: I was so frigid. 286 00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:17,070 Becs Gentry: Wow. I remember seeing a picture of your eyes and 287 00:16:17,070 --> 00:16:20,789 Becs Gentry: your eyebrows and your beard and you were frozen. You 288 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:23,070 Becs Gentry: looked... You like had icicles coming off you. 289 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:30,510 David Kilgore: Oh yeah. Yeah, it was absolutely insanity. They basically brought us 290 00:16:30,510 --> 00:16:33,390 David Kilgore: to this set of portables and they're like, " Hey, we're 291 00:16:33,390 --> 00:16:35,940 David Kilgore: actually going to wait for the weather to pass for 292 00:16:35,940 --> 00:16:38,550 David Kilgore: a little while." And about every half hour they were 293 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:41,099 David Kilgore: coming in and being like, " Actually we're going to wait 294 00:16:41,099 --> 00:16:43,469 David Kilgore: a little longer. You guys have some coffee, relax, and 295 00:16:43,469 --> 00:16:45,420 David Kilgore: we're all just cutting it up with each other and 296 00:16:45,420 --> 00:16:49,230 David Kilgore: hanging out." And then about two hours in, it's almost 297 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:50,850 David Kilgore: I feel like out of a movie, they come in 298 00:16:50,850 --> 00:16:54,180 David Kilgore: and look terrible and they're like, " The weather's getting so 299 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:56,610 David Kilgore: bad. If we don't get out right now, we're going 300 00:16:56,610 --> 00:16:58,920 David Kilgore: to get stuck here for like two days. So everybody 301 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,219 David Kilgore: get out there." So we're all just funneling out into 302 00:17:02,219 --> 00:17:07,980 David Kilgore: this absolutely horrid weather. And they took these two large 303 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:12,000 David Kilgore: sleds that they carry supplies on out there and flipped 304 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,329 David Kilgore: them over on each side of the course because we 305 00:17:15,330 --> 00:17:17,759 David Kilgore: switched up the course as well because it was such 306 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:21,960 David Kilgore: low visibility, and did about 13 out and backs on 307 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,440 David Kilgore: the ice. 308 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:27,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: Okay. I just have so many questions. I don't really 309 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: know where to start, but let me start. I'm just 310 00:17:30,030 --> 00:17:32,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to try to ask the questions that I think 311 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,428 Rob Simmelkjaer: are normal runners who listen to this podcast. Many of 312 00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:40,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: them are half marathoners or marathoners, they're serious runners. Very 313 00:17:40,529 --> 00:17:43,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: few of them will ever run an ultra marathon. And 314 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: then of that set, very, very, very few of them 315 00:17:46,830 --> 00:17:49,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: will ever think about doing something like this World Marathon 316 00:17:49,410 --> 00:17:52,379 Rob Simmelkjaer: Challenge. So first of all, where did this come from, 317 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: David, the concept of this seven marathon, seven days, seven continents, 318 00:17:57,719 --> 00:17:59,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: who thought of this? When did this start? 319 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:04,290 David Kilgore: So I think it's about seven or eight years old, 320 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,700 David Kilgore: there's a guy named Richard Donovan whose brother is a world- 321 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:13,260 David Kilgore: class miler, he's an Irish miler, back in his day. 322 00:18:13,619 --> 00:18:18,600 David Kilgore: And his brother Richard basically had the running bug as 323 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,820 David Kilgore: well, but was really into all these very adventurous stunts. 324 00:18:23,820 --> 00:18:27,960 David Kilgore: And so he's currently actually on a mission to run 325 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,710 David Kilgore: across every continent in the world. I think he's knocked 326 00:18:31,710 --> 00:18:36,930 David Kilgore: off about four right now, which is complete insanity. But 327 00:18:37,170 --> 00:18:40,470 David Kilgore: he puts on different races all over the world, puts 328 00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:43,530 David Kilgore: on the Antarctic Marathon, which is a different race. Races 329 00:18:43,530 --> 00:18:47,040 David Kilgore: up volcanoes, races in the north Pole. And this is 330 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,779 David Kilgore: one of his really, really crazy creations. And like Becs, 331 00:18:52,770 --> 00:18:56,730 David Kilgore: one of my friends, Mike Wardian, who's definitely a force 332 00:18:57,300 --> 00:19:00,780 David Kilgore: in the ultra running world as well, did this I 333 00:19:00,780 --> 00:19:03,750 David Kilgore: think about five years back. And when he did it 334 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:07,080 David Kilgore: the first time, I became completely enthralled by it and 335 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,480 David Kilgore: just could not stop thinking about it over the years 336 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,310 David Kilgore: and was like, " One day I got to get to 337 00:19:11,638 --> 00:19:12,210 David Kilgore: this race." 338 00:19:13,140 --> 00:19:14,550 Becs Gentry: So you know how it feels. 339 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah. Becs, this may be a question for you, but 340 00:19:17,850 --> 00:19:21,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: where does it start? What's the order of the continents? 341 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:23,188 Rob Simmelkjaer: How does this logistically work? 342 00:19:24,450 --> 00:19:30,810 Becs Gentry: As David's already lent into here, the first one and the most difficult logistically 343 00:19:30,869 --> 00:19:34,590 Becs Gentry: is the Antarctic Marathon because of the weather. So we 344 00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:37,740 Becs Gentry: all actually convene in Cape Town where we have a pre- 345 00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:41,700 Becs Gentry: race briefing and meet up with all the other incredible 346 00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:45,570 Becs Gentry: runners who are taking on this feat. And then they 347 00:19:45,570 --> 00:19:48,029 Becs Gentry: check the window and all being well a couple of 348 00:19:48,029 --> 00:19:51,300 Becs Gentry: days later we head out to Antarctica where we go. 349 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,629 Becs Gentry: This year, they've already changed the location once because of 350 00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:58,079 Becs Gentry: the (inaudible) winds were due to come in and 351 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,218 Becs Gentry: they've pushed it back to a location called Wolf's Fang, 352 00:20:02,460 --> 00:20:10,468 Becs Gentry: which sounds really relaxing, in Antarctica. And it's a two loop, so 353 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:15,989 Becs Gentry: two half- marathon loops of Wolf's Fang. We do that, 354 00:20:16,050 --> 00:20:19,739 Becs Gentry: we thaw out on the plane and we head to Cape 355 00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:23,698 Becs Gentry: Town where we do... I think that one's a five 356 00:20:23,699 --> 00:20:26,490 Becs Gentry: loop course. I've got them all in my head, probably 357 00:20:26,490 --> 00:20:28,109 Becs Gentry: all the wrong way around, but anyway, it's Cape Town, 358 00:20:28,109 --> 00:20:31,530 Becs Gentry: South Africa. Then we head over to Perth, Australia. Then 359 00:20:31,530 --> 00:20:34,168 Becs Gentry: we come back to Istanbul. Istanbul is the only country in 360 00:20:34,170 --> 00:20:38,190 Becs Gentry: the world that broaches two continents, Asia and Europe. So 361 00:20:38,190 --> 00:20:41,009 Becs Gentry: we do one on one side of the Bosphorus River 362 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,080 Becs Gentry: and we hop over to the other side of the 363 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,988 Becs Gentry: Bosphorus River the next day to tick off Asia and 364 00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:50,340 Becs Gentry: Europe. Then we head to Cartagena, Colombia. We have a bit 365 00:20:50,340 --> 00:20:53,550 Becs Gentry: of fun in South America. And then on all being 366 00:20:53,550 --> 00:20:57,599 Becs Gentry: well weather- wise, we should finish in Miami on November 367 00:20:57,599 --> 00:21:04,740 Becs Gentry: the 21st. So yeah. It seems absurd when I say 368 00:21:04,740 --> 00:21:05,700 Becs Gentry: it, every time. 369 00:21:06,510 --> 00:21:10,050 David Kilgore: Just a quick week, quick loop around the world. 370 00:21:10,950 --> 00:21:13,349 Becs Gentry: Yeah, yeah. And that's it. I think one of my 371 00:21:13,349 --> 00:21:18,780 Becs Gentry: questions to the race organizer was, " So is Istanbul the 372 00:21:18,780 --> 00:21:22,140 Becs Gentry: only time we're going to get to shower?" Because we'll 373 00:21:22,140 --> 00:21:25,500 Becs Gentry: be in a hotel, not the plane. And he was like, " Oh, 374 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:28,349 Becs Gentry: no, no, no. No, no, Becs, don't worry, you'll be able 375 00:21:28,349 --> 00:21:31,319 Becs Gentry: to rinse off. We have facilities for you to rinse 376 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,259 Becs Gentry: off in." It's like, " Oh God." Not that I was... 377 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,379 Becs Gentry: We're all running, we're all going to stink, but whatever. That 378 00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:38,340 Becs Gentry: was just saving grace. 379 00:21:38,940 --> 00:21:42,148 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, you don't want to get on a flight like 380 00:21:42,150 --> 00:21:45,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: that. Yeah. You want to shower before you get in 381 00:21:45,090 --> 00:21:51,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: the plane. Oh, David. So Antarctica obviously was the most 382 00:21:51,690 --> 00:21:55,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: challenging of these. Are you running on a road, on 383 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: ice? What's the surface there? 384 00:21:58,530 --> 00:22:04,320 David Kilgore: It's absolutely quite incredible actually. It's just all ice everywhere 385 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,750 David Kilgore: you look and it's probably one of the most special 386 00:22:06,750 --> 00:22:10,408 David Kilgore: places I've ever been in my life. When we landed, 387 00:22:10,410 --> 00:22:14,130 David Kilgore: so you land on an airfield that's... Yeah, it's all 388 00:22:14,130 --> 00:22:20,010 David Kilgore: ice and very, very tacky snow. And it's just... As 389 00:22:20,010 --> 00:22:22,920 David Kilgore: you could imagine, it's just so untouched. So any which 390 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,210 David Kilgore: way you look, it's absolutely just stunning. It's unbelievable to 391 00:22:27,210 --> 00:22:31,500 David Kilgore: see. And even though the wind was quite extensive and 392 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:36,780 David Kilgore: made the run quite difficult, it made it so wonderful 393 00:22:36,780 --> 00:22:38,698 David Kilgore: in a lot of ways too because as you were 394 00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:42,388 David Kilgore: running out and back, the snow drift from the wind 395 00:22:42,420 --> 00:22:46,769 David Kilgore: made it just absolutely stunning and it exposed the most blue 396 00:22:46,770 --> 00:22:49,138 David Kilgore: ice I've ever seen in my life. So you had 397 00:22:49,138 --> 00:22:53,158 David Kilgore: to shift over quite a bit to avoid that ice, but it was, 398 00:22:53,850 --> 00:22:54,840 David Kilgore: yeah, miraculous. 399 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:59,730 Becs Gentry: And you run in normal trainers or did you put crampons on? 400 00:23:00,869 --> 00:23:05,490 David Kilgore: Actually, yeah, the snow was... I brought some very small 401 00:23:05,490 --> 00:23:10,859 David Kilgore: grade crampons in the yaktrax just in case, but the snow 402 00:23:10,859 --> 00:23:14,699 David Kilgore: was actually so tacky and coarse that I just wore... 403 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:19,440 David Kilgore: I run for On, so our super shoe is the Cloudboom 404 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,349 David Kilgore: Echo. So I ran in that shoe the whole time 405 00:23:22,350 --> 00:23:32,310 David Kilgore: without any type of extra tackiness or extra traction. 406 00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:33,510 Becs Gentry: Wow. Did you have to go up a size to get some thick socks on? 407 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,920 David Kilgore: Yes, definitely. Yeah, I went up a half size to 408 00:23:38,130 --> 00:23:40,109 David Kilgore: wear some thicker wool socks. 409 00:23:40,109 --> 00:23:41,431 Becs Gentry: Yeah, some wool socks. There we go. 410 00:23:41,431 --> 00:23:41,432 David Kilgore: Yeah. 411 00:23:41,432 --> 00:23:45,002 Becs Gentry: All these tips and (inaudible) . 412 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,020 David Kilgore: I'll have to send it over to you too as well, Becs, but there was this 413 00:23:49,020 --> 00:23:52,830 David Kilgore: mask that I had as well and pretty much it's 414 00:23:52,830 --> 00:23:55,888 David Kilgore: a... It's almost like a regular face mask, but the 415 00:23:55,888 --> 00:23:59,609 David Kilgore: front of the mask around this area is all magnetic 416 00:24:00,270 --> 00:24:02,790 David Kilgore: but it comes on and off so it's very easy 417 00:24:02,790 --> 00:24:06,210 David Kilgore: to pull off and tuck away after you warm up. 418 00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:09,090 David Kilgore: But it's quite nice to start, especially for the exposure 419 00:24:09,090 --> 00:24:09,658 David Kilgore: on your face. 420 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,490 Becs Gentry: Yeah. Wow. 421 00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:15,928 Rob Simmelkjaer: So when I think about this, what I'm wondering is 422 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,138 Rob Simmelkjaer: what's the hardest part of this? Is it the running, 423 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: is it the logistics of just getting to these places and 424 00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:28,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: being able to run, is it your rest or nutrition? 425 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: What's the hardest part about pulling this off? 426 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:39,480 David Kilgore: I think it's going with the flow a little bit and also 427 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,410 David Kilgore: the recovery aspect of it. The climates that you're running 428 00:24:43,410 --> 00:24:49,049 David Kilgore: through of course are insanity. Going from Antarctica, from a 429 00:24:49,049 --> 00:24:54,928 David Kilgore: condition like that, to South Africa and then to Australia. 430 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,820 David Kilgore: The timing of everything matters so much from year to 431 00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:04,230 David Kilgore: year because last year as well, we were just off 432 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,948 David Kilgore: a little bit after the second marathon and that shifted 433 00:25:07,950 --> 00:25:10,919 David Kilgore: the dynamic of the entire race. So instead of some 434 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,510 David Kilgore: of the races that were going to be a lot cooler, 435 00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:15,030 David Kilgore: we were running in like 95 degree heat the next 436 00:25:15,030 --> 00:25:18,418 David Kilgore: day in Australia as well. So I feel like the 437 00:25:18,420 --> 00:25:24,509 David Kilgore: best or the most difficult thing is I feel like mitigating the 438 00:25:24,509 --> 00:25:29,549 David Kilgore: recovery for each day and just battling the conditions. And 439 00:25:29,940 --> 00:25:32,879 David Kilgore: again, I think with a lot of this adventure type racing, 440 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,840 David Kilgore: I think going with the flow and having that mindset 441 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:42,030 David Kilgore: to be ever- changeable is definitely the move. And also 442 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,770 David Kilgore: have a good buddy on the plane. 443 00:25:46,650 --> 00:25:51,270 Becs Gentry: I'm going to be bugging you the whole time. Yeah, 444 00:25:53,310 --> 00:25:56,609 Becs Gentry: I think Antarctica... So for me, where it all began 445 00:25:56,609 --> 00:26:00,029 Becs Gentry: in my mind of adventure racing was I've not done 446 00:26:00,090 --> 00:26:04,589 Becs Gentry: ultras for a long time. After having Tallulah, I wanted 447 00:26:04,590 --> 00:26:07,830 Becs Gentry: to finish my Six Star and then I said to myself, " 448 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:09,750 Becs Gentry: I think I want to get back into ultras." I 449 00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:12,990 Becs Gentry: enjoyed them so much. I love the adventure aspect of 450 00:26:12,990 --> 00:26:16,138 Becs Gentry: traveling to all parts of the world to run because 451 00:26:16,770 --> 00:26:18,688 Becs Gentry: that's where it started for me. That was my love 452 00:26:18,690 --> 00:26:23,760 Becs Gentry: of running, was trail running. So for as long as 453 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,070 Becs Gentry: I can remember, I've wanted to run the Antarctica Marathon, 454 00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:29,129 Becs Gentry: for so long. And I don't know why because I 455 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Becs Gentry: absolutely hate the cold. I have Raynaud's, so my hands 456 00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:33,718 Becs Gentry: will freeze up, so I'm going to have to have 457 00:26:33,719 --> 00:26:38,549 Becs Gentry: mitts and all sorts of stuff for my hands. And when I 458 00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:41,879 Becs Gentry: looked into it, I was just like, " I may as 459 00:26:41,879 --> 00:26:45,869 Becs Gentry: well do all of these." But I think weirdly enough, 460 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:49,080 Becs Gentry: I think that one is so far beyond my comprehension 461 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,759 Becs Gentry: as somebody who lives in New York that I'm more 462 00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:58,080 Becs Gentry: worried about the back- to- back potential 95 degree hot, 463 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,720 Becs Gentry: humid races of South Africa, Perth, Australia. Istanbul I think 464 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,970 Becs Gentry: at that time of year should be somewhat of a 465 00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:08,700 Becs Gentry: relief for us in November. I think that one's going 466 00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:12,240 Becs Gentry: to... Could be quite nice. But then we go to Columbia 467 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:20,820 Becs Gentry: and Miami. That's a lot of recovery, staving off cramps, 468 00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:25,530 Becs Gentry: staving off just that dehydration or over- hydration. I'm a 469 00:27:25,530 --> 00:27:28,260 Becs Gentry: sucker for hyponatremia, which is when you drink too much 470 00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:31,169 Becs Gentry: and you end up actually being more sick that way. 471 00:27:31,710 --> 00:27:34,350 Becs Gentry: So that's what's like in my brain of I need 472 00:27:34,350 --> 00:27:36,990 Becs Gentry: to lean on you and the other people who've done 473 00:27:36,990 --> 00:27:40,830 Becs Gentry: it, like how do we look after ourselves? 474 00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:45,270 David Kilgore: Yeah, I think a really great part about this as well 475 00:27:45,270 --> 00:27:48,630 David Kilgore: is that the plane that we'll be on, the majority 476 00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:50,819 David Kilgore: of it, besides the plane to Antarctica, because that one's 477 00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:54,840 David Kilgore: slightly different, we'll be able to lay down the full 478 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,109 David Kilgore: duration of the flights, will be great. And I think 479 00:27:58,109 --> 00:28:01,410 David Kilgore: one of the funniest pieces of this last year when 480 00:28:01,410 --> 00:28:04,290 David Kilgore: I was on the trip as well is this is 481 00:28:04,290 --> 00:28:09,089 David Kilgore: such a great point, is everybody so I feel like worried 482 00:28:09,089 --> 00:28:13,050 David Kilgore: about the recovery aspect of it, which is definitely a 483 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,240 David Kilgore: huge piece of it, but as we got on the 484 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,560 David Kilgore: plane, everybody's pulling out of their bag their Normatec boots, 485 00:28:20,099 --> 00:28:22,408 David Kilgore: their massage guns. I'll have to send you the video 486 00:28:22,410 --> 00:28:25,410 David Kilgore: Becs. I think there was somebody holding like 20 massage 487 00:28:25,410 --> 00:28:26,370 David Kilgore: guns all at once. 488 00:28:27,210 --> 00:28:27,780 Becs Gentry: Wow. 489 00:28:27,780 --> 00:28:28,501 David Kilgore: Because they were- 490 00:28:28,501 --> 00:28:31,680 Becs Gentry: Full Kit. One bag full of recovery tools, one bag full 491 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,950 Becs Gentry: of running kit. This is great. This'll be me. I'll 492 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:38,099 Becs Gentry: look like, I don't know, a celebrity pulling up to 493 00:28:38,099 --> 00:28:40,650 Becs Gentry: Paris Fashion Week. Instead, it's me getting on the plane 494 00:28:40,650 --> 00:28:41,879 Becs Gentry: with all my recovery tools. 495 00:28:47,340 --> 00:28:49,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: How many people do this? How many folks are on this journey with you? 496 00:28:52,110 --> 00:28:57,420 David Kilgore: So I'm not sure the exact number that'll be participating 497 00:28:57,420 --> 00:29:01,049 David Kilgore: this year. I think it'll probably be similar I would 498 00:29:01,049 --> 00:29:03,870 David Kilgore: say to what it was last year, but I believe 499 00:29:03,870 --> 00:29:11,820 David Kilgore: there was around 47 or 48 participants and about 15 500 00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:13,410 David Kilgore: to 20 members of staff. 501 00:29:15,179 --> 00:29:18,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: And you guys are all on the same plane, essentially, 502 00:29:18,150 --> 00:29:20,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: like a chartered jet that's taken you around to these 503 00:29:20,370 --> 00:29:21,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: places except for Antarctica? 504 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:26,820 David Kilgore: Yes, exactly. So we'll have one specific plane to land 505 00:29:26,820 --> 00:29:30,030 David Kilgore: on the ice out in Antarctica, which is... It's actually surreal 506 00:29:30,030 --> 00:29:33,689 David Kilgore: being on that plane. It's really, really cool. And then 507 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:37,080 David Kilgore: one other plane to fly us everywhere else, which is 508 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,988 David Kilgore: definitely quite nice too, to be able to have your 509 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:42,090 David Kilgore: stuff set up and all in one spot to be 510 00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:43,860 David Kilgore: able to jump in and out of the plane. 511 00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:46,770 Becs Gentry: It's a bougie hotel room in the sky. 512 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:50,101 David Kilgore: Yeah, exactly. 513 00:29:50,101 --> 00:29:52,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wow. All right, the questions are going to keep coming, Becs, for you 514 00:29:52,410 --> 00:29:54,449 Rob Simmelkjaer: as you get closer and closer to this. 515 00:29:54,929 --> 00:29:55,349 Becs Gentry: Yes. 516 00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:57,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: Because I've got so many, but I want to just 517 00:29:57,719 --> 00:30:02,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: find out a bit about David and how he came 518 00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:05,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: to be what he is. David, you started out as 519 00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:09,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: a quote- unquote, " Normal runner." You were a collegiate runner 520 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: at Florida, did very well there. I don't know what 521 00:30:13,349 --> 00:30:16,379 Rob Simmelkjaer: your best distances were in college, but talk about the 522 00:30:16,379 --> 00:30:21,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: evolution of being a runner to what you're doing now 523 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:23,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: with this incredible ultra running. 524 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,840 David Kilgore: Honestly, yeah, I grew up down in Florida and something 525 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,450 David Kilgore: that I didn't know existed out there was a lot 526 00:30:30,450 --> 00:30:33,899 David Kilgore: of this adventure racing and even trial and ultra racing 527 00:30:33,929 --> 00:30:36,629 David Kilgore: as a whole. So when I was growing up, I 528 00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:40,710 David Kilgore: grew up doing cross country and track and field, but 529 00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:42,780 David Kilgore: I was always training a lot in the woods and 530 00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:46,559 David Kilgore: spending a lot of time outside. As I grew and 531 00:30:47,250 --> 00:30:51,450 David Kilgore: went off to college and pretty much halfway through university, 532 00:30:51,450 --> 00:30:54,210 David Kilgore: I found out about this whole new world of this 533 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,500 David Kilgore: type of racing and it really just enthralled me. And 534 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:01,050 David Kilgore: once I exited university and took a little bit of 535 00:31:01,050 --> 00:31:03,599 David Kilgore: a... Took some downtime from running, I had been doing 536 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,540 David Kilgore: it for quite an extensive part of my life at 537 00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:09,540 David Kilgore: that time, the next step I was like, " Hey, I 538 00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:13,950 David Kilgore: really want to get into this field of running." And I 539 00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:15,990 David Kilgore: definitely like to joke around about it a little bit 540 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:19,410 David Kilgore: that I didn't realize that there was shorter distance trail 541 00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:24,540 David Kilgore: racing and started doing these large ultra adventures and multi- 542 00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:27,900 David Kilgore: stage adventures and I was like, " This is what I got 543 00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:30,420 David Kilgore: now. I'm too far gone, I got to stick with 544 00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:35,130 David Kilgore: this." And yeah. But honestly, it's something that I absolutely 545 00:31:35,130 --> 00:31:42,509 David Kilgore: love and these types of events are definitely just what 546 00:31:42,509 --> 00:31:45,360 David Kilgore: I love the most. I love the adventurous type racing 547 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,519 David Kilgore: and I love the excitement of a new challenge and 548 00:31:48,029 --> 00:31:50,850 David Kilgore: just pushing the body in a whole new way and 549 00:31:50,850 --> 00:31:56,280 David Kilgore: adding these different elements of lack of recovery, different environments 550 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,920 David Kilgore: in such a quick timeframe and the distance itself of 551 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,079 David Kilgore: course is just a bear all on its own. 552 00:32:02,429 --> 00:32:04,979 Becs Gentry: Yeah, that's so true. And I feel like you hit 553 00:32:04,979 --> 00:32:07,950 Becs Gentry: the nail on the head there. You never see David Kilgore running a 554 00:32:08,850 --> 00:32:14,400 Becs Gentry: Omega 50K race. David pops out to run a hundred 555 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,229 Becs Gentry: miles to... You always do it for great causes as 556 00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:21,359 Becs Gentry: well. I know you've done a lot of relief effort 557 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:27,840 Becs Gentry: running down for Floridians. There's always something between you or 558 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,380 Becs Gentry: your wife Molly who between you, you have an incredible cause 559 00:32:31,380 --> 00:32:35,849 Becs Gentry: behind these, somewhat random because I think a lot of 560 00:32:35,849 --> 00:32:43,050 Becs Gentry: them are... You're a big name within the unsanctioned races, so 561 00:32:43,050 --> 00:32:46,080 Becs Gentry: I think it's not unusual to see David just rock 562 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,270 Becs Gentry: up in a random part of Florida and be like, " 563 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,260 Becs Gentry: Okay, he's seeing if he can get the fastest known 564 00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:57,690 Becs Gentry: time for a random trail in the backwaters of Florida 565 00:32:57,690 --> 00:33:03,390 Becs Gentry: with Molly and some friends crewing him." It's wild. How 566 00:33:03,390 --> 00:33:05,490 Becs Gentry: do you plan those? How do you come up with those? 567 00:33:07,710 --> 00:33:11,850 David Kilgore: Yeah, thanks, Becs, I appreciate that. I don't know, it's something 568 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,979 David Kilgore: that excites me constantly so I feel like it's a 569 00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:21,750 David Kilgore: ever evolving thing too where people are just like... I 570 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:24,180 David Kilgore: guess along my journey in life people are telling me 571 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:26,280 David Kilgore: about these different things like, " Hey, have you checked this 572 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,290 David Kilgore: out? You got to go do this, you got to 573 00:33:28,290 --> 00:33:32,580 David Kilgore: do that." And if somebody's so inclined to join me 574 00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:36,510 David Kilgore: on that or so excited about it, I think that's 575 00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,940 David Kilgore: what I get my energy from most in life is 576 00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:43,170 David Kilgore: just the excitement and joy of others. So I feel 577 00:33:43,170 --> 00:33:45,030 David Kilgore: like no matter what it is, if they're like, " Hey, 578 00:33:45,030 --> 00:33:47,010 David Kilgore: you got to check out this crazy adventure, we got 579 00:33:47,010 --> 00:33:49,889 David Kilgore: to go do this," I'm like, " Sign me up, let's 580 00:33:49,889 --> 00:33:50,639 David Kilgore: go check it out. I'm down. I'm down to do that.2 581 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,410 Becs Gentry: Rings so true. You were one of the first to do TSP 582 00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:59,760 Becs Gentry: solo and after doing it many years as part of 583 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,279 Becs Gentry: a team. You've done... I think you've done pretty much... 584 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,070 Becs Gentry: I'm waiting for you to just say you're running across Australia or 585 00:34:08,070 --> 00:34:11,309 Becs Gentry: something by yourself or something wild like that. 586 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:20,040 David Kilgore: Likewise, Becs. I feel like you've done crazy adventures and insane marathons 587 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,450 David Kilgore: and really fast clips all over the world. Has the 588 00:34:24,450 --> 00:34:28,109 David Kilgore: build up to this event been any different so far? 589 00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:33,690 Becs Gentry: I have to word this in the nicest possible way and 590 00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:39,510 Becs Gentry: remind everybody listening that we are all different and I 591 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:45,359 Becs Gentry: have had to learn to run slower because there is 592 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:51,839 Becs Gentry: no way I'm going to stay healthy racking up this 593 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,369 Becs Gentry: mileage, let alone doing seven marathons in seven days in 594 00:34:56,370 --> 00:35:00,389 Becs Gentry: seven continents at the speeds I think I want to 595 00:35:00,389 --> 00:35:04,948 Becs Gentry: run at. This has been the biggest difference for me, 596 00:35:04,949 --> 00:35:09,420 Becs Gentry: is learning to go out and just as you said, 597 00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:12,630 Becs Gentry: go with the flow, not worry about what the watch 598 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:16,679 Becs Gentry: is beeping at, not worry about time, which also means 599 00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:21,360 Becs Gentry: carving out more time in my schedule. It's been really 600 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,850 Becs Gentry: enjoyable. It's really actually made those past training runs at 601 00:35:26,850 --> 00:35:29,879 Becs Gentry: a historically... They weigh heavy on you when you're like, " 602 00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:31,950 Becs Gentry: Oh no, I've got to go out and hit this 603 00:35:31,950 --> 00:35:36,239 Becs Gentry: time for these many miles and this is going to 604 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,729 Becs Gentry: be hard." This is hard in a different way because 605 00:35:38,730 --> 00:35:39,929 Becs Gentry: it's like, " Okay, I got to go out for my 606 00:35:40,350 --> 00:35:45,660 Becs Gentry: third run of the day, my legs are tired," but I've deleted 607 00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:47,910 Becs Gentry: that one element of like, " Okay, I don't have to 608 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:53,400 Becs Gentry: hit any specific pace because..." Essentially we have... There's eight 609 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,699 Becs Gentry: hours to complete each race. We have to have... Or 610 00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,799 Becs Gentry: there's eight hours for everyone to be back on the 611 00:35:58,799 --> 00:36:05,670 Becs Gentry: plane and out. So that's a nice... What's that called? 612 00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:09,840 Becs Gentry: It's like a lifebuoy for me, a life vest. 613 00:36:10,469 --> 00:36:14,669 David Kilgore: Yeah, it is quite nice. I think that's one of the great 614 00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:19,020 David Kilgore: part about this race too, especially if you're running at a 615 00:36:19,020 --> 00:36:23,940 David Kilgore: slightly faster clip, is being able to be in these 616 00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:28,500 David Kilgore: locations for a nice bit of time and actually I 617 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:30,839 David Kilgore: feel like get a little bit of extra recovery. So I 618 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,299 David Kilgore: feel like it is an interesting aspect too with recovery 619 00:36:36,299 --> 00:36:39,660 David Kilgore: in that respect too of balancing the amount of speed 620 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,900 David Kilgore: and the amount of time you have to recover in 621 00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:47,370 David Kilgore: these locations afterwards because yeah, it's a little bit more 622 00:36:47,370 --> 00:36:50,039 David Kilgore: time where you're able to be off your feet and 623 00:36:50,370 --> 00:36:54,359 David Kilgore: actually get I would say a solid meal in these 624 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,650 David Kilgore: different locations around the world. 625 00:36:56,250 --> 00:36:58,200 Becs Gentry: I just want to meet a penguin in Antarctica. 626 00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:03,299 David Kilgore: Same. Let's put it on our bucket list. 627 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,049 Becs Gentry: Yeah. We'll get this marathon done, look out for Becs Bambi on 628 00:37:07,049 --> 00:37:10,349 Becs Gentry: ice the first few miles. Make sure you've got a phone 629 00:37:10,350 --> 00:37:12,540 Becs Gentry: ready to film how hilarious I'm going to look. 630 00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:17,460 David Kilgore: We're all just penguins, slide on our stomachs on ice, yeah. 631 00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:20,520 Becs Gentry: It'll be me. The penguins will just flock to me. They'll be like, " 632 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,170 Becs Gentry: Oh, she's one of us, she's on her belly." 633 00:37:22,170 --> 00:37:27,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: I think this could happen for you. I feel like this video is coming. 634 00:37:27,929 --> 00:37:32,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm excited about this. David, for someone who is, again, 635 00:37:33,060 --> 00:37:36,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: a quote- unquote, " Normal runner," running normal distances, normal races, 636 00:37:36,810 --> 00:37:42,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: maybe even marathons, what is the type of person... How 637 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,349 Rob Simmelkjaer: do you know ultra marathons maybe are for you? I 638 00:37:46,350 --> 00:37:49,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: know some folks who have graduated up to this and 639 00:37:49,890 --> 00:37:53,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: is it just you get to 26.2 and you're like, " 640 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: Gosh, it's just not enough, I just need more. That's 641 00:37:56,429 --> 00:37:59,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: not enough, it's not enough of an adventure for me. 642 00:37:59,969 --> 00:38:03,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: I need something more than that." Is that how you know? 643 00:38:05,010 --> 00:38:10,469 David Kilgore: Yeah, I feel like that's definitely hard to put an exact pen in 644 00:38:10,469 --> 00:38:15,300 David Kilgore: because even as Becs mentioned earlier with that race I 645 00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:18,000 David Kilgore: did (inaudible) , an unsanctioned race from LA to Vegas, 646 00:38:18,660 --> 00:38:21,509 David Kilgore: which is a little over 300 miles. I remember when 647 00:38:21,509 --> 00:38:25,560 David Kilgore: I first did my first ultra, which was a 50- mile 648 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,850 David Kilgore: race, and someone asked me about that actually when it 649 00:38:29,850 --> 00:38:33,330 David Kilgore: was whispers in the scene and at the time I 650 00:38:33,330 --> 00:38:36,239 David Kilgore: was like, " Dude, I just did this 50 mile race 651 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,450 David Kilgore: and there's no way anybody's convinced me to ever do 652 00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:44,310 David Kilgore: that because I just went through so much pain to conquer 653 00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:48,989 David Kilgore: this 50 mile race." So I think it has to be a mixture 654 00:38:48,989 --> 00:38:53,429 David Kilgore: of I think just I guess excitement for a new challenge 655 00:38:53,429 --> 00:38:56,310 David Kilgore: after you feel like you have gotten some of this 656 00:38:56,610 --> 00:38:59,729 David Kilgore: under your belt. And then also I feel like when I'm 657 00:38:59,730 --> 00:39:02,340 David Kilgore: ever in a low spot in some of these ultra 658 00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:07,560 David Kilgore: distance races, what drives me so much too is again, I feel 659 00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:10,709 David Kilgore: like being around people and having that intimate time with 660 00:39:11,130 --> 00:39:13,500 David Kilgore: other people. I feel like it just breaks you down 661 00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:17,039 David Kilgore: and grinds you down to exactly who you're supposed to 662 00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:21,060 David Kilgore: be in that exact moment. And then also just looking 663 00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:23,610 David Kilgore: around, a lot of the places that I gravitate towards 664 00:39:23,610 --> 00:39:28,200 David Kilgore: are more of these I feel like wild and more 665 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,700 David Kilgore: natural places when I'm racing. And yeah, even when I'm 666 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,009 David Kilgore: deep, deep in the pain cave, I feel like looking 667 00:39:35,010 --> 00:39:37,710 David Kilgore: around and just being like, " Oh my god, this is 668 00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:41,310 David Kilgore: really painful right now," but I'm so pumped about where 669 00:39:41,310 --> 00:39:44,610 David Kilgore: I am right now and I'm loving every minute of this 670 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,600 David Kilgore: in my mind. 671 00:39:47,219 --> 00:39:53,669 Becs Gentry: Wow. Out of all of the wild locations, distances, and 672 00:39:54,090 --> 00:39:58,800 Becs Gentry: challenges you've put yourself through, is there any that stick 673 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,959 Becs Gentry: out as being the most challenging so far? 674 00:40:06,929 --> 00:40:11,009 David Kilgore: I would've to say actually a race that I did last year 675 00:40:11,010 --> 00:40:15,120 David Kilgore: as well in late April. There's a race called MDS 676 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,370 David Kilgore: Marathon Des Sables and it's a multi- stage race across 677 00:40:20,370 --> 00:40:24,389 David Kilgore: a portion of the Sahara desert. And I just think 678 00:40:24,389 --> 00:40:28,350 David Kilgore: that that race was so difficult for me because it 679 00:40:28,350 --> 00:40:32,610 David Kilgore: just incorporated so many new elements where you have to 680 00:40:32,610 --> 00:40:37,890 David Kilgore: carry all of your own food and hydration for the 681 00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:41,280 David Kilgore: entirety of the week, anything that you're sleeping on and 682 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,839 David Kilgore: staying in. So it's a true backpacking experience, but fast 683 00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:50,759 David Kilgore: packing race through a very treacherous part of the world. 684 00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:54,600 David Kilgore: And they even ration the amount of water and type 685 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,530 David Kilgore: of fuel that you have in that event. So I 686 00:40:58,530 --> 00:41:01,709 David Kilgore: think because of that, it was a whole new stimulus 687 00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:05,699 David Kilgore: for me that I wasn't as familiar with. It definitely 688 00:41:05,699 --> 00:41:09,660 David Kilgore: made it completely... I don't know, I think there's layers 689 00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:12,960 David Kilgore: of racing to me usually where it's like, " Wow, that 690 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,200 David Kilgore: was an incredible hard effort" and I expected that going 691 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,889 David Kilgore: into it, but there was definitely layers of enjoyment into 692 00:41:19,889 --> 00:41:27,239 David Kilgore: that. And I think during MDS, I was suffering I feel like the majority of it. I was like, " 693 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:31,980 David Kilgore: Wow, this is no joke." But I think that's a 694 00:41:31,980 --> 00:41:35,099 David Kilgore: lot to be said too with a lot of these multi- 695 00:41:35,099 --> 00:41:41,639 David Kilgore: stage races. And again nodding back to that recovery, I 696 00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:45,120 David Kilgore: think it matters so much going day after day after 697 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,810 David Kilgore: day after day, the same for the Great World Race that 698 00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:50,190 David Kilgore: we're about to embark on. 699 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,969 Becs Gentry: MDS is similar in that you've got to get to the tent and sleep and it's as 700 00:41:56,969 --> 00:41:59,578 Becs Gentry: quick as you get to the next rest stop, the 701 00:41:59,580 --> 00:42:01,440 Becs Gentry: more time you're going to have to recover before the 702 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,439 Becs Gentry: next day's challenge awaits you essentially. 703 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:12,179 David Kilgore: Yes, exactly. And again, I feel like what's really fun about 704 00:42:12,179 --> 00:42:15,809 David Kilgore: these races too, and I feel like I get a lot of 705 00:42:15,809 --> 00:42:18,390 David Kilgore: my energy off of is it's so fun to be 706 00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:21,330 David Kilgore: able to put in such an incredible effort and to 707 00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:23,520 David Kilgore: be able to, I feel like, run... Everybody's able to 708 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,160 David Kilgore: run their own pace and race against each other, but 709 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,790 David Kilgore: then coming back and to all one unit and I feel like 710 00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:34,469 David Kilgore: to be able to go through the same experience together 711 00:42:34,529 --> 00:42:38,250 David Kilgore: but everybody at different pace, it's quite a special thing. 712 00:42:38,580 --> 00:42:42,870 David Kilgore: I joked around a little bit about the Great World 713 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:46,739 David Kilgore: Race last year or the World Marathon Challenge and that 714 00:42:46,739 --> 00:42:50,069 David Kilgore: it was... I feel like it was a dull like airplane 715 00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:53,609 David Kilgore: and marathoning camp that I spent for a week. 716 00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:55,589 Becs Gentry: It's just a week. 717 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: David, I've followed you on Strava since this interview began 718 00:43:00,690 --> 00:43:05,459 Rob Simmelkjaer: and I've been scrolling through your Strava feed and it's 719 00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:08,819 Rob Simmelkjaer: actually... A lot of it's remarkably normal. It looks like 720 00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:12,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: mine. You got five miles here, five miles there, and 721 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: then like a 43- mile evening run will just pop 722 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: up somewhere in the feed. I'm like, " Okay, that's not 723 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: in my Strava feed. I don't have that." So it's 724 00:43:24,179 --> 00:43:26,579 Rob Simmelkjaer: a fun follow by the way, David Kilgore on Strava. 725 00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:31,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: I recommend it. What's the training like? How many miles 726 00:43:31,230 --> 00:43:34,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: are you putting in? We're talking right now, you're in 727 00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:36,989 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York, you're in the South Bronx, just showed us 728 00:43:36,989 --> 00:43:40,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: a view of outside your window with Yankee Stadium right 729 00:43:40,380 --> 00:43:42,989 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the background. How many miles will you do in 730 00:43:42,989 --> 00:43:45,299 Rob Simmelkjaer: just a normal week where you're not in the middle 731 00:43:45,299 --> 00:43:48,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: of some major global running situation? 732 00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:55,770 David Kilgore: It's definitely all dependent. Again, I feel like I keep 733 00:43:55,770 --> 00:43:57,629 David Kilgore: going back to this, but I feel like I get so much 734 00:43:58,290 --> 00:44:01,349 David Kilgore: inspiration and stuff out of other people, so I feel 735 00:44:01,349 --> 00:44:04,440 David Kilgore: like if there's a lot of group runs and events 736 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,259 David Kilgore: and stuff going on, I think I'll tack in a 737 00:44:07,260 --> 00:44:10,050 David Kilgore: little bit extra. But I would say on average, I 738 00:44:10,050 --> 00:44:13,890 David Kilgore: pretty much train I would say like a lower mileage 739 00:44:13,890 --> 00:44:18,150 David Kilgore: marathoner on a normal basis where I'm probably hitting between... 740 00:44:19,170 --> 00:44:20,369 David Kilgore: I know it's a little bit of a range, but 741 00:44:20,370 --> 00:44:26,040 David Kilgore: probably like 50 to 80 miles on a normal basis. And again, 742 00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:32,700 David Kilgore: that depends on... I feel like either week or bi- weekly, 743 00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:34,440 David Kilgore: I feel like I always throw in some type of 744 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,010 David Kilgore: a big adventure where I run just a longer route 745 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,680 David Kilgore: that I've wanted to do for a while, whether it's 746 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,279 David Kilgore: a loop around Manhattan in the city or playing around 747 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,461 David Kilgore: in the Alps. 748 00:44:44,460 --> 00:44:45,750 Becs Gentry: Casual, so casual. 749 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, just (inaudible) . It all makes sense. How was 750 00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:53,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: the experience running the TCS New York City Marathon? I'm 751 00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:57,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: looking at your photos from it on Strava. Looked like 752 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: you had a good time, pretty impressive time you ran. 753 00:45:00,570 --> 00:45:01,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: How was it? 754 00:45:02,190 --> 00:45:04,890 David Kilgore: Oh man, it's definitely my favorite marathon I think in 755 00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:09,210 David Kilgore: the world. Yeah, it's incredible in every way. I feel 756 00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:12,149 David Kilgore: like being in New York now for eight or nine 757 00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:18,599 David Kilgore: years have fostered a fantastic running family and community here. 758 00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:22,529 David Kilgore: It's really cool to be able to, one, I feel 759 00:45:22,530 --> 00:45:26,160 David Kilgore: like run through every borough in one day and just 760 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,730 David Kilgore: the energy every step of the way compiled with, again, 761 00:45:30,540 --> 00:45:33,599 David Kilgore: all the vibes and love from friends and family across 762 00:45:33,929 --> 00:45:38,850 David Kilgore: the course, it's so, so sick. It's unlike anything else I 763 00:45:38,850 --> 00:45:42,270 David Kilgore: feel like or a marathon that I've experienced. And I 764 00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:45,718 David Kilgore: think over the years too, it's been awesome to see 765 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,160 David Kilgore: just the buildup. I feel like each borough has notched 766 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,009 David Kilgore: in their belt their own identity. So it's really cool 767 00:45:53,010 --> 00:45:57,090 David Kilgore: to hit each borough and really feel the energy, see 768 00:45:57,090 --> 00:46:01,049 David Kilgore: different DJs just like blast some music, different run crews along 769 00:46:01,050 --> 00:46:03,810 David Kilgore: the way. It's an incredible experience. 770 00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: Two hours and 31 minutes by the way, not too shabby. 771 00:46:08,759 --> 00:46:15,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: Outstanding. With your speed, David, you could be running at 772 00:46:15,210 --> 00:46:19,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: a very elite level. Where along the way did you 773 00:46:19,590 --> 00:46:22,829 Rob Simmelkjaer: decide that distance was your thing because you've got some 774 00:46:22,830 --> 00:46:26,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: actual speed there. That's an impressive time. If you trained 775 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:28,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: for speed, and I don't know that you're doing that, 776 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: what do you think the limit could be for you 777 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: in terms of speed at the marathon distance? 778 00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:42,750 David Kilgore: I think I'm almost at it actually for myself. I 779 00:46:42,750 --> 00:46:45,809 David Kilgore: could probably take a little bit off my time and 780 00:46:45,809 --> 00:46:49,020 David Kilgore: maybe get into the teams or something (inaudible) very, 781 00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:53,610 David Kilgore: very specified at what I was doing. But I think 782 00:46:53,969 --> 00:46:59,370 David Kilgore: that's something that's never as much spoke to me and 783 00:46:59,370 --> 00:47:03,359 David Kilgore: I just love the way I view running and the way 784 00:47:03,540 --> 00:47:08,219 David Kilgore: I partake or participate in running now where I get 785 00:47:08,219 --> 00:47:11,339 David Kilgore: to do a little bit of everything where I still 786 00:47:11,460 --> 00:47:14,579 David Kilgore: am definitely on more of a professional circuit in the trial and ultra 787 00:47:14,580 --> 00:47:17,790 David Kilgore: world and do some of those races, but going after 788 00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:22,770 David Kilgore: some of these larger stunts and adventure racing. Like I 789 00:47:22,770 --> 00:47:25,859 David Kilgore: was saying too in my training that I feel like 790 00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:29,939 David Kilgore: I would be a nightmare to coach, but going out 791 00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:32,699 David Kilgore: and just being able to do some really fun routes 792 00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:35,670 David Kilgore: that I've had my eye on for a while, it's 793 00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:38,309 David Kilgore: something that just speaks to myself and speaks to my 794 00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:43,140 David Kilgore: soul and it's something that I love to be able 795 00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:46,981 David Kilgore: to get out every day and choose my path. 796 00:47:46,980 --> 00:47:46,982 Becs Gentry: I love that. 797 00:47:46,981 --> 00:47:54,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, I want to hear one piece of advice you 798 00:47:54,330 --> 00:47:58,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: can give Becs live here as she starts to get 799 00:47:58,739 --> 00:48:02,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: ready for this unbelievable adventure of the world Marathon challenge. 800 00:48:02,910 --> 00:48:05,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: What's the number one thing Becs needs to hear as 801 00:48:05,790 --> 00:48:07,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: she tries to pull this off? 802 00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:14,340 David Kilgore: I would say bring a great sleeping mat or pillow 803 00:48:14,580 --> 00:48:18,930 David Kilgore: for the plane. Use that for the plane. The best 804 00:48:18,930 --> 00:48:21,210 David Kilgore: thing I feel like is to... I feel like rest 805 00:48:21,210 --> 00:48:25,259 David Kilgore: is always undersold, so I think getting a good night 806 00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:29,099 David Kilgore: of shut- eye is the move. And then also I 807 00:48:29,099 --> 00:48:32,790 David Kilgore: think it's over seven days, so I think probably with 808 00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:38,640 David Kilgore: the first marathon, it's always nice to probably play it 809 00:48:38,910 --> 00:48:42,390 David Kilgore: a little bit easier on that first one and just really 810 00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:46,200 David Kilgore: settle into the pace. But honestly, I think by the 811 00:48:46,349 --> 00:48:51,150 David Kilgore: third or fourth day, it's weird what the body does. 812 00:48:51,150 --> 00:48:52,920 David Kilgore: I think it just... The body's like, " This is what we 813 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,071 David Kilgore: do now." 814 00:48:53,071 --> 00:48:55,410 Becs Gentry: " This is us." 815 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,440 David Kilgore: Yeah. " We run a marathon and we get back on a 816 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,129 David Kilgore: plane and we sleep." So I feel like you really sit 817 00:49:02,130 --> 00:49:06,390 David Kilgore: into it by the third or fourth day. That would 818 00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:09,540 David Kilgore: be my piece of advice, is have a great sleeping 819 00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:13,950 David Kilgore: arrangement and definitely just listen to your body from the gate. 820 00:49:14,850 --> 00:49:19,680 Becs Gentry: Okay. Sleeping mat, pillow, take it easy. Sounds good. Sounds 821 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,210 Becs Gentry: like going on proper a vacation. 822 00:49:22,650 --> 00:49:27,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh, that's not a vacation. No. There is nothing vacation- 823 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,729 Rob Simmelkjaer: like about what you are going to do, but it 824 00:49:29,730 --> 00:49:33,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: will be an experience of a lifetime. And I wish 825 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: you luck. I can't wait to watch this all play 826 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: out, Becs. It's going to be amazing. Congrats to you 827 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: for taking it on. And David, thank you for coming 828 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,979 Rob Simmelkjaer: on and giving us a peek inside this really incredible 829 00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:50,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: world of ultra marathon running. We know about that, but at 830 00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:53,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: the level that you do it and the scale at 831 00:49:53,219 --> 00:49:56,099 Rob Simmelkjaer: which you do it globally, it's just something that's very 832 00:49:56,099 --> 00:50:00,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: unique in the running world. So congrats, good luck, and 833 00:50:00,570 --> 00:50:02,879 Rob Simmelkjaer: we can't wait to see how it all plays out 834 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: for you. 835 00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:06,810 David Kilgore: Much appreciated. Yeah, super grateful for you guys having me 836 00:50:06,810 --> 00:50:11,640 David Kilgore: on. And Becs, I'm so stoked for you to be on this trip. You're 837 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,119 David Kilgore: absolutely going to crush it. And yeah, let's have a 838 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,910 David Kilgore: few piña coladas at Cartagena before we head over to 839 00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:21,000 David Kilgore: Miami. That'll ease the trip a little bit too. 840 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,111 Becs Gentry: Absolutely down for that. 841 00:50:22,111 --> 00:50:28,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right. David Kilgore on Set the Pace, thank you very much. 842 00:50:28,589 --> 00:50:29,339 David Kilgore: Awesome, thanks y'all. 843 00:50:44,310 --> 00:50:46,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: Time now for our New York Road Runners member moment 844 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,939 Rob Simmelkjaer: and today's member is Marie- Ange Brumelot. Marie recently made 845 00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:55,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: history by running under seven hours in her first 100K 846 00:50:55,080 --> 00:51:00,239 Rob Simmelkjaer: ultra marathon at Steenwerck, France becoming the second- fastest female 847 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: 100K runner of all time. This amazing performance also set 848 00:51:04,739 --> 00:51:09,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: a new record for the fastest European 100K surpassing the 849 00:51:09,210 --> 00:51:13,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: previous best by seven minutes and qualifying Marie- Ange for 850 00:51:13,410 --> 00:51:17,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: the 100K World Championships, which will be held in Bengaluru, 851 00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:21,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: India in December of this year. Incredible. Meanwhile, here in 852 00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:23,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York City, Marie- Ange was named the Fred Lebow 853 00:51:23,969 --> 00:51:27,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: runner of the year after being a top five finisher 854 00:51:27,150 --> 00:51:31,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: in eight of the NYRR races she competed in. Here 855 00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:33,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: with Marie- Ange is Meb Keflezighi. 856 00:51:33,690 --> 00:51:38,130 Meb Keflezighi: Thanks, Rob. Welcome Marie to the Set the Pace podcast. You 857 00:51:38,130 --> 00:51:42,090 Meb Keflezighi: were frustrated with your marathon performance, so you decided to try 858 00:51:42,090 --> 00:51:45,660 Meb Keflezighi: the 100K ultra race. Why did you think that you 859 00:51:45,660 --> 00:51:49,769 Meb Keflezighi: might be suited to the ultra rather than to the marathons? 860 00:51:50,669 --> 00:51:53,069 Marie-Ange Brumelot: They tell you if you can't run faster, you got 861 00:51:53,069 --> 00:51:57,390 Marie-Ange Brumelot: to run longer. So I gave it a shot. Yeah, 862 00:51:57,989 --> 00:52:01,170 Marie-Ange Brumelot: I needed to do something different, not progressing in the 863 00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:04,500 Marie-Ange Brumelot: marathon as much as I wanted to, so I tried 864 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:05,939 Marie-Ange Brumelot: to go longer and it all worked out. 865 00:52:06,569 --> 00:52:10,499 Meb Keflezighi: You have described your ultra strategy as a research for data 866 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:12,120 Meb Keflezighi: driven. Tell us all about it. 867 00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:16,950 Marie-Ange Brumelot: Yes, coming from the marathon, we know so much about 868 00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:20,400 Marie-Ange Brumelot: it. It's a big Olympic event. There's so much information 869 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,020 Marie-Ange Brumelot: out there. And stepping to this new event, the 100K, 870 00:52:25,770 --> 00:52:30,660 Marie-Ange Brumelot: information is not flowing as much. We don't know as much 871 00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:34,230 Marie-Ange Brumelot: about it. It's not an event that's as popular as the marathon. 872 00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:36,330 Marie-Ange Brumelot: So I thought I could be good at it, but I 873 00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:39,870 Marie-Ange Brumelot: wanted to back it up with some information. So to 874 00:52:39,929 --> 00:52:44,580 Marie-Ange Brumelot: bring me some confidence or some or just to find 875 00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:48,390 Marie-Ange Brumelot: out was I right in my pursuit of this event, 876 00:52:48,539 --> 00:52:51,989 Marie-Ange Brumelot: I just looked at those performances compared to the marathon to 877 00:52:51,989 --> 00:52:55,560 Marie-Ange Brumelot: try to extrapolate, " All right, here's my marathon, so here's 878 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,040 Marie-Ange Brumelot: what it could be 100K" because I was looking at the European record 879 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,880 Marie-Ange Brumelot: and it seemed attainable. And again, I just (inaudible) up and 880 00:53:02,969 --> 00:53:05,580 Marie-Ange Brumelot: the numbers did, so that brought me some confidence. 881 00:53:06,330 --> 00:53:09,719 Meb Keflezighi: Not only get confidence, but now you have qualified for 882 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,129 Meb Keflezighi: the 100K world championship in India this December. How will 883 00:53:14,130 --> 00:53:18,899 Meb Keflezighi: that course compare to Steenwerck, France or what does your 884 00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:19,680 Meb Keflezighi: training look like? 885 00:53:20,129 --> 00:53:22,980 Marie-Ange Brumelot: So the course is going to be comparable. It's a smaller loop, but 886 00:53:22,980 --> 00:53:27,750 Marie-Ange Brumelot: usually these events always run on a flat road. What's the major 887 00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:32,639 Marie-Ange Brumelot: difference between the world championships in India and the race that I 888 00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:35,759 Marie-Ange Brumelot: did, it's going to be the conditions. India is not 889 00:53:35,759 --> 00:53:39,660 Marie-Ange Brumelot: known to be a cool and dry country, so that 890 00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:43,200 Marie-Ange Brumelot: is going to be the major thing. So I am right 891 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,200 Marie-Ange Brumelot: now trying to embrace the hot and humid summer because 892 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,830 Marie-Ange Brumelot: most likely this is what I'm going to have to 893 00:53:49,830 --> 00:53:51,150 Marie-Ange Brumelot: face in December. 894 00:53:51,929 --> 00:53:55,529 Meb Keflezighi: That's great. Congratulations on going to the world championship. How 895 00:53:55,530 --> 00:53:59,159 Meb Keflezighi: does that compare for you going for time versus and 896 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,050 Meb Keflezighi: now a pure championship races? 897 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,570 Marie-Ange Brumelot: I think it alleviates a bit of the pressure. In (inaudible) race, I 898 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,880 Marie-Ange Brumelot: wanted to win, of course, but I wanted to have a 899 00:54:08,969 --> 00:54:13,020 Marie-Ange Brumelot: time associated with it. So you're looking at everything that 900 00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:16,649 Marie-Ange Brumelot: goes on around you, you're looking at how... You're very 901 00:54:16,650 --> 00:54:19,710 Marie-Ange Brumelot: focused on yourself, of course, but I also had to be focused 902 00:54:19,710 --> 00:54:22,080 Marie-Ange Brumelot: on the splits and the numbers along the way because 903 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,870 Marie-Ange Brumelot: that was very driven or here's the standards I want 904 00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:28,049 Marie-Ange Brumelot: to be able to achieve. So moving forward to the 905 00:54:28,050 --> 00:54:31,410 Marie-Ange Brumelot: world, Championships, that last part is not going to be 906 00:54:31,469 --> 00:54:34,440 Marie-Ange Brumelot: as essential. It's more, all right here are the best 907 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,310 Marie-Ange Brumelot: athletes in the world in that event right now. Now it's 908 00:54:38,310 --> 00:54:41,430 Marie-Ange Brumelot: just a matter of competition. It's just a championship race, so 909 00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:45,570 Marie-Ange Brumelot: the numbers don't really matter. It's just running the smartest 910 00:54:45,570 --> 00:54:48,540 Marie-Ange Brumelot: race for me in order to beat the field because that's 911 00:54:48,540 --> 00:54:52,770 Marie-Ange Brumelot: going to be my goal. Again, it's not about being 912 00:54:52,770 --> 00:54:56,002 Marie-Ange Brumelot: so driven into the numbers. You can look (inaudible) . 913 00:54:56,489 --> 00:54:59,730 Marie-Ange Brumelot: The time at the end of the day, it's not going to matter, 914 00:55:00,030 --> 00:55:01,080 Marie-Ange Brumelot: it's all about placing. 915 00:55:02,460 --> 00:55:04,920 Meb Keflezighi: Are ultras your future or will you come back to 916 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,110 Meb Keflezighi: the marathons after the world Championships? 917 00:55:07,799 --> 00:55:10,679 Marie-Ange Brumelot: Yeah, I'm definitely not done with a marathon. There's definitely going 918 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,290 Marie-Ange Brumelot: to be more marathon in the future and I do 919 00:55:13,290 --> 00:55:17,370 Marie-Ange Brumelot: think they can... Those two events can work together, just 920 00:55:17,370 --> 00:55:21,270 Marie-Ange Brumelot: like marathoners have to step down to do half- marathons 921 00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:24,330 Marie-Ange Brumelot: and 10K once in a while to spin the legs because it 922 00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:27,989 Marie-Ange Brumelot: just makes you more efficient. I think it's just this 923 00:55:28,170 --> 00:55:32,700 Marie-Ange Brumelot: similar idea. My best performances just maybe in those ultra 924 00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:34,560 Marie-Ange Brumelot: events. But I do think it is in my best 925 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,590 Marie-Ange Brumelot: interest to try to get faster in the marathon because 926 00:55:37,590 --> 00:55:42,239 Marie-Ange Brumelot: it translates. You'll see me again in the marathon. I 927 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,080 Marie-Ange Brumelot: still think I have some minutes to shave, so I'll be giving 928 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,389 Marie-Ange Brumelot: it a go at some point within the next few years. 929 00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:53,940 Meb Keflezighi: How is it for my personal knowledge your body feels after 930 00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:57,690 Meb Keflezighi: a 100K versus a marathon? I know for me personally after running a 931 00:55:57,690 --> 00:56:00,690 Meb Keflezighi: marathon, I'm done for about a week or five days, 932 00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:03,000 Meb Keflezighi: at very minimum, can't walk. But how does your body 933 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,590 Meb Keflezighi: feel when you run a 100K? 934 00:56:05,070 --> 00:56:08,001 Marie-Ange Brumelot: So after the race, the recovery process, that's why (inaudible) 935 00:56:08,001 --> 00:56:11,219 Marie-Ange Brumelot: was very different. I didn't know what to expect 936 00:56:11,219 --> 00:56:15,450 Marie-Ange Brumelot: because it was my first one. After a marathon, for me 937 00:56:15,450 --> 00:56:18,419 Marie-Ange Brumelot: personally, I would be very sore for especially the day 938 00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:22,020 Marie-Ange Brumelot: after. But that soreness carries for maximum 72 hours and 939 00:56:22,020 --> 00:56:26,040 Marie-Ange Brumelot: then I can start jogging. I feel quite okay. I 940 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,920 Marie-Ange Brumelot: thought it would be smoother. I don't know why it was really 941 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,630 Marie-Ange Brumelot: not though. I try to jog because (inaudible) I 942 00:56:33,630 --> 00:56:36,300 Marie-Ange Brumelot: felt like all the soreness is gone, I can hop 943 00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:40,001 Marie-Ange Brumelot: along (inaudible) light jog because it just feels (inaudible) 944 00:56:40,001 --> 00:56:43,739 Marie-Ange Brumelot: to get blood flow going. But I feel like the 945 00:56:43,739 --> 00:56:48,509 Marie-Ange Brumelot: pounding, all my (inaudible) area felt weird. Everything was 946 00:56:48,510 --> 00:56:51,360 Marie-Ange Brumelot: off for a couple weeks. It was definitely a lot 947 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,469 Marie-Ange Brumelot: more demanding, which makes sense when you think about it. 948 00:56:55,469 --> 00:56:58,500 Marie-Ange Brumelot: Two, two and a half hour events versus a six 949 00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:01,290 Marie-Ange Brumelot: and a half hour, seven- hour event. So of course 950 00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:03,360 Marie-Ange Brumelot: the body's going to react a little bit differently. 951 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,840 Meb Keflezighi: Wow, you're doing a great job, keep it up. One 952 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,290 Meb Keflezighi: more question for you. You hold a very unique Guinness 953 00:57:10,290 --> 00:57:12,780 Meb Keflezighi: world record. Will you tell us about it? 954 00:57:13,530 --> 00:57:16,770 Marie-Ange Brumelot: Yeah, so it's a family thing, so it's dear to 955 00:57:16,770 --> 00:57:22,020 Marie-Ange Brumelot: my heart. So my father and I, at the 2022 Brooklyn half- 956 00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:25,169 Marie-Ange Brumelot: marathon held at New York Road Runners, we ran the 957 00:57:25,170 --> 00:57:30,239 Marie-Ange Brumelot: fastest half- marathon by father and child. So our time 958 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,670 Marie-Ange Brumelot: was... May not be able to get it down to 959 00:57:32,670 --> 00:57:36,479 Marie-Ange Brumelot: the second, but he ran 131 and some change and 960 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,480 Marie-Ange Brumelot: I ran 113 and some change. So we got the 961 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,540 Marie-Ange Brumelot: record. It was taken from us since, so we'll be 962 00:57:42,540 --> 00:57:45,120 Marie-Ange Brumelot: giving it a go again. I'm not sure if you'll 963 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,280 Marie-Ange Brumelot: be able to squeeze in the fall. If it's not 964 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,001 Marie-Ange Brumelot: going to be this fall, it's going to be in the next spring (inaudible) 965 00:57:50,001 --> 00:57:53,189 Marie-Ange Brumelot: to get it again, so we'll go for it soon. 966 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,480 Meb Keflezighi: Wow. Congratulations on that. That's so awesome. And thank you for 967 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,390 Meb Keflezighi: being a today's Member Moment. So wish you all the 968 00:58:00,390 --> 00:58:04,920 Meb Keflezighi: best, especially in India for the world championship 100K, and 969 00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:05,909 Meb Keflezighi: thanks for being with us. 970 00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:09,300 Marie-Ange Brumelot: Thank you so much, Meb. 971 00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:11,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, Marie-Ange and Meb, thank you so much. And thank you Marie- Ange for being 972 00:58:11,820 --> 00:58:13,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: a member of New York Road Runners and we are 973 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: all rooting for you as you look ahead to the 974 00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:20,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: 100K World Championships later this year. Now it's time for 975 00:58:20,490 --> 00:58:21,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: today's Meb Minutes. 976 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:26,130 Meb Keflezighi: Hi everyone, this is the Meb Minutes and this week 977 00:58:26,130 --> 00:58:29,789 Meb Keflezighi: will be upping up the mileage. Running is a beautiful 978 00:58:29,789 --> 00:58:32,160 Meb Keflezighi: thing, but the number one rule that you want to 979 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,340 Meb Keflezighi: try to avoid is injury. So how do you make 980 00:58:35,340 --> 00:58:38,910 Meb Keflezighi: a progress upping up your mileage if you're getting ready 981 00:58:38,910 --> 00:58:44,999 Meb Keflezighi: for ultras or continent seven marathons like Becs or Marie getting 982 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,960 Meb Keflezighi: ready for a 100K is important? But you know you 983 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,360 Meb Keflezighi: have to put the training. And people see me sometimes 984 00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:53,130 Meb Keflezighi: Meb, "You look fit, you look strong, you're going to run 985 00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:56,670 Meb Keflezighi: at 26.2 miles." Now, the training is so important, you 986 00:58:56,670 --> 00:58:59,460 Meb Keflezighi: have to put in your dues and that will get you to 987 00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:01,859 Meb Keflezighi: that finish line. But you want to do it systematically 988 00:59:01,950 --> 00:59:04,859 Meb Keflezighi: that you don't want to hamper or get injured and 989 00:59:04,859 --> 00:59:09,510 Meb Keflezighi: things like that. So you have to increase 10% a 990 00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:12,240 Meb Keflezighi: week. So this is a time where you have to 991 00:59:12,990 --> 00:59:15,719 Meb Keflezighi: assess your body what you are capable of doing. You 992 00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:18,809 Meb Keflezighi: don't want to push too much where you are in 993 00:59:18,809 --> 00:59:22,229 Meb Keflezighi: trouble because the whole point, the whole goal is to 994 00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:25,860 Meb Keflezighi: stay healthy, strong, and get to the (inaudible) as 995 00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:28,890 Meb Keflezighi: healthy as possible. But to do that, you got to get 996 00:59:28,890 --> 00:59:33,840 Meb Keflezighi: your mileage in and those miles know with the intervals, tempos, 997 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,090 Meb Keflezighi: long runs, you want to be able to feel saying, " 998 00:59:36,330 --> 00:59:38,939 Meb Keflezighi: I could do more. I could do more." And stop 999 00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:40,980 Meb Keflezighi: the workout because you don't want to say, " I could 1000 00:59:40,980 --> 00:59:43,290 Meb Keflezighi: do one more or two more and get over the 1001 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,630 Meb Keflezighi: top." When you do go over the top, a lot 1002 00:59:45,630 --> 00:59:48,210 Meb Keflezighi: of dreams can be shattered. So you have to be 1003 00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:50,340 Meb Keflezighi: careful to be able to just say, " Hey, am I 1004 00:59:50,340 --> 00:59:52,950 Meb Keflezighi: making the right progress? Am I making the right decision?" 1005 00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:57,540 Meb Keflezighi: By having a training log, helps to see what you 1006 00:59:57,540 --> 01:00:00,510 Meb Keflezighi: have done last week, what you are doing this week, where you can 1007 01:00:00,510 --> 01:00:03,990 Meb Keflezighi: go next week. So be very careful of assessing your 1008 01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:06,900 Meb Keflezighi: mileage as you up your mileage to the best that 1009 01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,570 Meb Keflezighi: you can and have fun because training is part of 1010 01:00:09,570 --> 01:00:13,320 Meb Keflezighi: the journey and getting to the finish line is no shortcuts to 1011 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,419 Meb Keflezighi: it. But by upping your mileage correctly and slowly, it's 1012 01:00:18,450 --> 01:00:20,310 Meb Keflezighi: going to get you to the finish line as strong as 1013 01:00:20,310 --> 01:00:22,590 Meb Keflezighi: possible. Wish you guys all the best as you increase 1014 01:00:22,590 --> 01:00:23,130 Meb Keflezighi: your mileage. 1015 01:00:23,460 --> 01:00:25,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, we've reached the finish line of another episode 1016 01:00:25,710 --> 01:00:28,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: of Set the Pace. Thank you to David Kilgore and 1017 01:00:28,380 --> 01:00:31,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: to New York Road Runners member Marie- Ange Brumelot. If you 1018 01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:34,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: like this episode, please go ahead, subscribe, rate or leave 1019 01:00:34,590 --> 01:00:37,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: a comment for the show. It'll help others find it 1020 01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:40,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: as well. Hope you all enjoyed it. Enjoy the miles, 1021 01:00:40,590 --> 01:00:41,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: we'll see you next week.