Carrie Tollefson: Hey everybody. I'm Olympian Carrie Tollefson, a member of today's
Carrie Tollefson: broadcast team for the Mastercard New York Mini 10K. And
Carrie Tollefson: today we are giving you a special edition of the
Carrie Tollefson: Set the Pace Podcast. We're going to rerun the Mastercard
Carrie Tollefson: New York Mini 10K. And listen, today was awesome. We
Carrie Tollefson: had on our wheelchair division a new winner. Yep. Susannah
Carrie Tollefson: Scaroni is having her baby in August and today Tatyana
Carrie Tollefson: McFadden won her first Mini 10K. She's won the New
Carrie Tollefson: York City Marathon five times. She's won the NYC half three
Carrie Tollefson: times and today now she cracked the tape and is
Carrie Tollefson: the winner of the Mini. And then we have in
Carrie Tollefson: our open field, Agnes Ngetich from Kenya. She set a
Carrie Tollefson: course record, everybody. She ran the fastest time ever on
Carrie Tollefson: US Soil for 10K, 30: 07. So we're going to catch up
Carrie Tollefson: with her as well. And then our top American, Emily
Carrie Tollefson: Venters having a phenomenal race in fourth place today. And
Carrie Tollefson: I'm going to send it on over to the A
Carrie Tollefson: team. That's what I'm calling them. Ali Feller from Ali
Carrie Tollefson: On the Run and Aisha Praught- Leer from CITIUS MAG. They
Carrie Tollefson: are going to be interviewing our winners and our top
Carrie Tollefson: American today.
Ali Feller: Hello and welcome to Rerun the Mastercard New York Mini
Ali Feller: 10K with Set the Pace. Ali On the Run, that's
Ali Feller: me. CITIUS MAG, with our friend Aisha Praught- Leer here
Ali Feller: all presented by Peloton. Oh my gosh, best day.
Aisha Praught Leer: This is the best day. 10-
Ali Feller: This is-
Aisha Praught Leer: Okay, this is my first time-
Ali Feller: You made your debut today.
Aisha Praught Leer: ... at the Mini 10K. I made my debut at the 10K. Did I run the 10K? No.
Ali Feller: Same.
Aisha Praught Leer: But I made my debut in what might be the
Aisha Praught Leer: best day in New York ever. I mean, the marathon
Aisha Praught Leer: is great, but the Mini 10K? There were 10, 000 women running this race.
Aisha Praught Leer: It was the most joyful, the most playful, the most
Aisha Praught Leer: smiles, the best energy all around Central Park today.
Ali Feller: You are so in the running community in so many
Ali Feller: ways as a former professional athlete, as a podcast host,
Ali Feller: as someone who is friends with so many of the
Ali Feller: athletes, what did you know about the Mini heading into
Ali Feller: this weekend?
Aisha Praught Leer: As a professional, the Mini has a reputation that is
Aisha Praught Leer: everyone wants to do it. Everyone wants to show up
Aisha Praught Leer: at the Mini and it's a great time, but also
Aisha Praught Leer: everyone wants to win the Mini and everyone wants to
Aisha Praught Leer: go with their friends, smile at the start and then
Aisha Praught Leer: beat each other up once the gun goes off. So
Aisha Praught Leer: we definitely saw that today and it's really fun. You
Aisha Praught Leer: can feel the energy that everyone's spoken about for years.
Ali Feller: We are going to talk to some of our champions
Ali Feller: from today. We're going to talk to some of the
Ali Feller: incredible runners who have amazing and inspiring stories. But first,
Ali Feller: let's talk about your day. Where were you? What was
Ali Feller: your race plan for the day? And I want to
Ali Feller: know all of the sights and sounds as seen and
Ali Feller: heard from Aisha.
Aisha Praught Leer: I wanted to take this day like a typical runner
Aisha Praught Leer: would watching a race. So I was on foot. I
Aisha Praught Leer: left the hotel and I took the C train up
Aisha Praught Leer: to the start. It was so fun. The train was
Aisha Praught Leer: packed with women all with their bibs on. Everybody had
Aisha Praught Leer: their headphones. Everyone was excited. Glitter, hair clips, everything was
Aisha Praught Leer: happening. Get to the park and stood by the start.
Aisha Praught Leer: All the women were doing their final strides, warming up.
Aisha Praught Leer: And then I was running back and forth all over
Aisha Praught Leer: Central Park. I saw the women at 5K, saw them
Aisha Praught Leer: as I was coming back to the finish, was just
Aisha Praught Leer: running back and forth, wanting to see it all. So
Aisha Praught Leer: we really got to see the race unfold and I
Aisha Praught Leer: was also watching, of course, our friends in the booth,
Aisha Praught Leer: Carrie and Alicia calling the race on my phone. So
Aisha Praught Leer: I was wired in, but I was also live on
Aisha Praught Leer: foot. How was your day?
Ali Feller: Oh, so good. I was part of the broadcast team
Ali Feller: in honor and my job was going to the start
Ali Feller: line. Did a couple interviews at the start, a couple pre-
Ali Feller: tapes before the race started. Got to speak with Tatyana
Ali Feller: McFadden and last year's champion, Hellen Obiri, and hear about
Ali Feller: how they were both feeling. And then I was at the
Ali Feller: finish. And it's funny, I'm so used to working the
Ali Feller: marathon, for example, and being out there for like 12
Ali Feller: hours. And so this race, you almost want to slow
Ali Feller: it down because it goes by so fast and there's
Ali Feller: so much to take in. Here's a note that I
Ali Feller: will say, cleanest porta- potties of the year.
Aisha Praught Leer: Unbelievable out there.
Ali Feller: Shout out to the 10,000 women just coming into this
Ali Feller: with the utmost respect. People are so polite. People are
Ali Feller: throwing their trash in trash cans. It is clear.
Aisha Praught Leer: No litter.
Ali Feller: Who run the world, girls. I mean, obviously.
Aisha Praught Leer: Yeah.
Ali Feller: So no, I mean, I love this race. I lived
Ali Feller: in New York City for over 10 years and I've
Ali Feller: run this race many times at many phases in my
Ali Feller: life and now it's really cool to see other women
Ali Feller: doing the same thing. I ran this race when I
Ali Feller: was pregnant with my daughter, who's now seven and a
Ali Feller: half. And I saw so many women out there today
Ali Feller: who were running pregnant. We saw women finishing with ... Had
Ali Feller: grabbed their babies from, I assume they were with someone
Ali Feller: on the sidelines.
Aisha Praught Leer: I don't think they ran.
Ali Feller: Yeah, I don't think so nor were they alone on
Ali Feller: the sidelines. They just picked up a baby. But we
Ali Feller: saw women finishing with their babies or their kids. We
Ali Feller: saw people just ... It's really cool. This race has such
Ali Feller: an incredible history, which we've talked about at length today,
Ali Feller: but it's amazing to see how it's grown. I also
Ali Feller: love seeing the Crazy Legs runners. There was a woman
Ali Feller: at the start who on the back of her shirt
Ali Feller: said, 45th Mini.
Aisha Praught Leer: Unreal.
Ali Feller: That's amazing.
Aisha Praught Leer: It is amazing. It goes to show how big of
Aisha Praught Leer: a pillar this race is in the women's running community
Aisha Praught Leer: in New York when you have people that are coming
Aisha Praught Leer: out for decades to be part of this race.
Ali Feller: I know it's so super boring to talk about the
Ali Feller: weather, but we do have to acknowledge. I mean, it
Ali Feller: was hot out there today.
Aisha Praught Leer: It was hot.
Ali Feller: I was standing at the finish line and I was
Ali Feller: warm. And so the heat, how did it feel to
Ali Feller: you? You were also running around.
Aisha Praught Leer: It was very pleasant if you were just out for
Aisha Praught Leer: a nice walk, but these women were not out for
Aisha Praught Leer: a nice walk. They were out for a hilly 10K
Aisha Praught Leer: pushing themselves. And even just running back and forth, I
Aisha Praught Leer: think I got in three miles cheering on the runners.
Aisha Praught Leer: I was very sweaty and I could feel that this
Aisha Praught Leer: would be very challenging once you get on the west
Aisha Praught Leer: side and you're hitting those roller hills coming to into
Aisha Praught Leer: the finish, I think it would be an obstacle that
Aisha Praught Leer: all the runners had to face. But they faced it
Aisha Praught Leer: together and it really is so fun to watch. We
Aisha Praught Leer: see so much camaraderie on this day. I would love
Aisha Praught Leer: to hear what did you see as far as trends
Aisha Praught Leer: go? I think that's fun to talk about. A lot
Aisha Praught Leer: of matching sets. A lot of glitter.
Ali Feller: A lot of matching sets. A lot of glitter. The star hair clips.
Aisha Praught Leer: Yes.
Ali Feller: So cute.
Aisha Praught Leer: So cute. What I loved was also groups of friends
Aisha Praught Leer: in matching outfits. Like not only were their sets matching,
Aisha Praught Leer: but they were matching their friends. They had a whole
Aisha Praught Leer: theme going. It looked very fun. Lots of women carrying
Aisha Praught Leer: speakers so that everybody had a party around them. I
Aisha Praught Leer: wanted to be in those groups, especially with the star clips.
Ali Feller: What would you have been playing if I were running
Ali Feller: near you and you had a speaker, what's coming out of
Ali Feller: that boombox?
Aisha Praught Leer: All female singers. We're going to have obviously Beyonce. We're
Aisha Praught Leer: going to have some Olivia Dean. We're going to throw
Aisha Praught Leer: in your girl Taylor.
Ali Feller: Thank you.
Aisha Praught Leer: Everybody's going to be there. It's maybe some Olivia Rodrigo,
Aisha Praught Leer: the new songs. Everything's going to come out. We're going
Aisha Praught Leer: to feel good. We're going to build toward the end
Aisha Praught Leer: so we're dancing at the finish line.
Ali Feller: Love it. Well, congratulations, of course, to all 10,000 plus
Ali Feller: runners. This was the first year in this race's very,
Ali Feller: very long and storied history that we had more than 10,
Ali Feller: 000 athletes complete this race. So huge deal, so much
Ali Feller: to celebrate. Congratulations to all of the runners. And of
Ali Feller: course, biggest thank you to everyone who makes this race
Ali Feller: happen, the New York Roadrunners team, staff, volunteers, medical personnel.
Ali Feller: It takes more than a village to pull off a
Ali Feller: race of this, not just this size but with a
Ali Feller: reputation like this one has. And so biggest thanks to
Ali Feller: everyone who made it possible and we're going to recap
Ali Feller: all of it today. We're here with birthday girl and
Ali Feller: top American from the Mini 10K, Emily Venters.
Emily Venters: Yeah. I'm excited to be here with you guys too.
Ali Feller: Congratulations. Happy birthday. Also, did you get a PR for
Ali Feller: your birthday?
Emily Venters: I did get a PR for my birthday. Yeah.
Ali Feller: Is that the best gift ever?
Emily Venters: It is. Yeah. I woke up and my boyfriend was
Emily Venters: here with me and he's like, " Happy birthday." And I
Emily Venters: was like, " Oh yeah, I guess it is my birthday." I've
Emily Venters: never had a race on my birthday, so it's fun.
Emily Venters: But yeah, a PR and a great race is always
Emily Venters: a good birthday gift.
Ali Feller: The grind never stops.
Emily Venters: Yeah, I guess it doesn't.
Ali Feller: How were you feeling heading into today's race? I want
Ali Feller: to hear about race planned. Other than needing to be
Ali Feller: told and reminded that it was your birthday, when you
Ali Feller: woke up this morning, how was your confidence? Let's break
Ali Feller: it down.
Emily Venters: I just went into this race honestly with no expectations.
Emily Venters: I just switched coaches about a month ago, maybe a
Emily Venters: little bit more and my training has changed quite a
Emily Venters: bit, but I've been feeling good, but I think just
Emily Venters: anytime you kind of make a transition, you just don't
Emily Venters: know where you're at exactly. But yeah, I've been feeling
Emily Venters: a lot fresher just in workouts and just overall. So
Emily Venters: I was like, I feel like I could have a good
Emily Venters: race. I just don't know. So yeah, I didn't wear
Emily Venters: a watch or anything. I just like, I'm going to
Emily Venters: run off feel and that's what I did.
Ali Feller: That's amazing. It must be sort of freeing to go
Ali Feller: in without expectation and-
Emily Venters: It is.
Ali Feller: ... just see how you feel in the day.
Emily Venters: Yeah. That's my favorite place to be in before a race
Emily Venters: is like, we're just going to see what happens. And
Emily Venters: that's the fun part is like you get to race and
Emily Venters: you don't know what's going to happen. So yeah, just
Emily Venters: going off of feeling. Yeah.
Ali Feller: Whose idea was it not to wear a watch? Yours,
Ali Feller: your coaches?
Emily Venters: Mine.
Ali Feller: Okay. Why?
Emily Venters: Yeah. I am someone who really doesn't like to see
Emily Venters: splits. Even during workouts, I turn my vibration off on
Emily Venters: my watch and the chime. Like I don't look at
Emily Venters: the pace ever. And then even the clocks on the
Emily Venters: side of the course, I just don't look at either
Emily Venters: because I don't know if something in me just doesn't
Emily Venters: want to see it. I just want to go by
Emily Venters: feel. And if it's fast, then it might freak me out
Emily Venters: or if I'm slow. Either way, it's just like, this
Emily Venters: is a race and it doesn't matter. You're going to
Emily Venters: finish at whatever time you finish at. So might as
Emily Venters: well just run and not think about the time.
Aisha Praught Leer: Do you think that gave you an advantage today with
Aisha Praught Leer: the heat so that you're really tuned into your body
Aisha Praught Leer: and not external?
Emily Venters: Yeah, probably. I mean, I've done it in a couple
Emily Venters: of races, but sometimes people like to just get the
Emily Venters: data in their splits, but it doesn't really matter.
Ali Feller: Can we talk about the coaching change? Like you said
Ali Feller: about a month ago, so for a long time you
Ali Feller: were coached by Ed Eyestone, you're now with David Roach.
Emily Venters: Yes.
Ali Feller: Let's hear about the change and what that's looked like.
Emily Venters: Yeah. So I think I'm just someone who actually does
Emily Venters: really well when they train alone, just kind of stay
Emily Venters: in my lane. I don't compare as much. Obviously I
Emily Venters: love running with people on easy runs and everything and
Emily Venters: still meeting up with people. But I think when it
Emily Venters: comes to workouts, I just want a little bit more
Emily Venters: specificity and individualization in my training. And so yeah, David
Emily Venters: has provided me with that and I also just like
Emily Venters: his approach to training. He's just super big on your
Emily Venters: life is so much more than running and that means
Emily Venters: a lot to me as someone who can sometimes get
Emily Venters: consumed by it. And as we know, if you get
Emily Venters: consumed by it and then you kind of like are
Emily Venters: in a low with racing, you're going to get depressed.
Emily Venters: So he just has seen me as a whole person
Emily Venters: and it's just super encouraging and supportive. And so yeah,
Emily Venters: I'm really, really grateful for him.
Aisha Praught Leer: I'm sure a lot of the other 10,000 women that
Aisha Praught Leer: were in the field today can learn a lot from
Aisha Praught Leer: that approach. Is that something that you've learned over time
Aisha Praught Leer: or is that an approach you've always taken to the sport?
Emily Venters: Yeah, definitely learned over time. I mean, it comes and
Emily Venters: goes in waves when I do better with it and
Emily Venters: then I do worse with it. But yeah, that's what
Emily Venters: I'm trying to do again is just focus on me
Emily Venters: as a whole person and just do the workouts, do
Emily Venters: everything I need to do, but it doesn't consume me
Emily Venters: and I'm not like Emily the runner. I'm Emily the
Emily Venters: person first. And so I think I just like that
Emily Venters: reminder constantly and I think it helps breed success.
Ali Feller: So going into today's race, was there a race plan
Ali Feller: now that you are racing, was this your first race
Ali Feller: with David as your coach.
Emily Venters: Yes.
Ali Feller: Okay. So that's a whole new approach then.
Emily Venters: Yeah.
Ali Feller: What does a pre- race pep talk or conversation with
Ali Feller: him look like and what were you hoping to do today?
Emily Venters: I think the only goal in my head was like I
Emily Venters: just wanted to break 32 kind of, but obviously the
Emily Venters: race is the race and whatever happens, happens. And his
Emily Venters: approach to me was like, " You know what? We're going
Emily Venters: to celebrate no matter what happens. If it's a good
Emily Venters: race or a bad race and we just need to
Emily Venters: learn how to accept every race and grow from it."
Emily Venters: Because he's like, " I'm going to celebrate your bad races
Emily Venters: more than your good races because that's where we gain
Emily Venters: the most growth from." And so yeah, I think just
Emily Venters: going into it like win or lose, we're going to
Emily Venters: get something out of it and that's obviously a really
Emily Venters: good place to be as well. And then his other
Emily Venters: advice was draft like hell for the first four miles.
Emily Venters: So find someone and just sit behind them and then
Emily Venters: after that you can go. So I did that. Yeah.
Emily Venters: And I sat behind Edna for four miles and then
Emily Venters: we took a left on the west side and I
Emily Venters: passed her on the uphill. So I listened.
Ali Feller: Very good. A great fit.
Aisha Praught Leer: You listened to me and you loved it.
Ali Feller: A great student. So not only were you top American, but
Ali Feller: you were also fourth in an extremely illustrious field.
Emily Venters: Yeah, I had no idea.
Ali Feller: You had no idea?
Aisha Praught Leer: You had no idea you just said?
Emily Venters: Oh, no. No I (inaudible) .
Aisha Praught Leer: (inaudible) .
Ali Feller: (inaudible) look at the field. Like you didn't look at the field or
Ali Feller: you didn't know you were fourth place?
Emily Venters: I didn't know I was fourth place.
Ali Feller: You're kidding.
Emily Venters: No.
Ali Feller: Oh my goodness. You were fourth place.
Emily Venters: Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that.
Ali Feller: Happy birthday.
Aisha Praught Leer: You know now.
Ali Feller: When did you find out that you were fourth?
Emily Venters: After I crossed the finish and I think Carrie had
Emily Venters: said to me like, " Yeah, you're fourth overall." And I was like, "
Emily Venters: Overall fourth?" I heard first American and in my head
Emily Venters: I was like, I'd passed Waney and then Edna and
Emily Venters: so I thought maybe I was first American, but yeah,
Emily Venters: fourth overall, I was like, " Whoa, okay, that's crazy in this
Emily Venters: field," but it's cool. It felt like a big breakthrough.
Ali Feller: So before we sat down to chat in an official
Ali Feller: capacity, Aisha said, " Oh, Emily Venters, this was a breakout
Ali Feller: race for her."
Emily Venters: Yeah.
Ali Feller: Would you agree with that?
Emily Venters: Yeah, I would agree with that.
Ali Feller: Love that.
Emily Venters: Yeah.
Ali Feller: Okay. So how do you now, I mean, it's already
Ali Feller: been a great day, but how are you spending the
Ali Feller: rest of your birthday?
Emily Venters: I'm actually flying back to Utah pretty soon.
Ali Feller: Awesome. I hope you have a good seat.
Emily Venters: But we're going to do a little staycation when we get back. So that's
Emily Venters: what I wanted to do. Yeah.
Aisha Praught Leer: Very fun. Well, congratulations.
Emily Venters: Thank you, guys.
Ali Feller: Yeah. Amazing race. Happy birthday. PR. So much to celebrate.
Ali Feller: Emily Venters, thank you so much for sitting down and
Ali Feller: chatting with us.
Emily Venters: Thanks.
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Ali Feller: We are joined by Tatyana McFadden and Tatyana, we're going
Ali Feller: to keep this quick just like your race today because
Ali Feller: you are racing again tomorrow.
Tatyana McFadden: Yes. I decided to do the Chicago Half.
Ali Feller: Just casual.
Tatyana McFadden: If I was going to do it, it's going to be this year. Right.
Ali Feller: Casual. Well, huge deal. Congratulations.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you.
Ali Feller: You are the first new champion of the Mini 10K
Ali Feller: in the women's wheelchair division.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you.
Ali Feller: That's huge. It was a great day. How are you
Ali Feller: feeling? How are you recapping the day?
Tatyana McFadden: Yeah, I'm really excited. First of all, it's on all
Tatyana McFadden: women's race. So shout out to all the women who
Tatyana McFadden: race today and it was a good PR for me
Tatyana McFadden: today. So I'm really happy about that, especially coming off
Tatyana McFadden: as we discussed earlier, a track like 10 days ago.
Tatyana McFadden: So this has been quite a quick turnaround to do
Tatyana McFadden: something a little bit longer than a hundred meter and
Tatyana McFadden: a 400 meters. So it was a good day.
Aisha Praught Leer: It seems like you're challenging yourself in not only distance
Aisha Praught Leer: but back to back racing. Is this a year of experimentation
Aisha Praught Leer: for you?
Tatyana McFadden: It is. It's a year of experimentation all for leading
Tatyana McFadden: up for LA28 to kind of pick what I'm going
Tatyana McFadden: to do and pick and choose. Schedule already came out
Tatyana McFadden: and it's a pretty busy, hectic schedule. So this is
Tatyana McFadden: a good time to kind of practice to see what
Tatyana McFadden: you're going to be good at, what your weaknesses are.
Tatyana McFadden: But it's a great place to practice in New York City.
Ali Feller: All right. I know we talked about this at the
Ali Feller: finish line, and this is our third interview of the
Ali Feller: day, Tatyana.
Tatyana McFadden: I love it.
Ali Feller: We've gotten to hang out so much.
Tatyana McFadden: (inaudible) .
Ali Feller: I love this.
Tatyana McFadden: We should do it more.
Ali Feller: I know. We match, we've got our pink. I love it.
Ali Feller: So I want to hear again the sights and sounds
Ali Feller: of the 2026 Mini 10K from your vantage point.
Tatyana McFadden: Yes. There was lots of cheering people running along the
Tatyana McFadden: course, of all the women. It was just excited. People
Tatyana McFadden: were really, really excited. Lots of cheering and it's crowded
Tatyana McFadden: and it's busy, which is a good sign. We've had
Tatyana McFadden: a lot more runners than we did last year. It's
Tatyana McFadden: just such a great community and it's good to see
Tatyana McFadden: more and more women out and just people out and
Tatyana McFadden: cheering and kind of getting to know either the runners
Tatyana McFadden: or just enjoying and maybe they'll run it next year.
Aisha Praught Leer: You are part of the fabric of New York Road Running.
Tatyana McFadden: Oh, thank you.
Aisha Praught Leer: How does it feel to be back on top of
Aisha Praught Leer: the podium?
Tatyana McFadden: It feels really good. It's been a really quite a
Tatyana McFadden: great year so far with Boston and New York and
Tatyana McFadden: then two world records at the Grand Prix. But New
Tatyana McFadden: York Road Runners is like family. I've been with them
Tatyana McFadden: for so long, since 2011 and it's just such a
Tatyana McFadden: great, genuine partnership and I really feel like they listen
Tatyana McFadden: to the feedback of the athlete and really just make
Tatyana McFadden: it so wonderful and they really make it so great.
Ali Feller: You're fine. What are some key takeaways from today when
Ali Feller: you look back? Well, you know what? My first question
Ali Feller: is, do you remember all your wins? Like do you
Ali Feller: have any idea how many races you've won at this
Ali Feller: point in your career? Do you keep a spreadsheet?
Tatyana McFadden: I don't keep a spreadsheet.
Ali Feller: You should.
Tatyana McFadden: I should. I should, right?
Ali Feller: Someone make sure a spreadsheet.
Tatyana McFadden: I should. Yes, I should. Yeah. Winning is absolutely just
Tatyana McFadden: so wonderful, but it's just amazing of what my body
Tatyana McFadden: can do and how I can push the times to
Tatyana McFadden: be even faster working with technology, working with New York Roadrunners
Tatyana McFadden: and just really how to expand the sport overall. I
Tatyana McFadden: think winning just sort of just comes along with that
Tatyana McFadden: journey as I'm just continuing to train and pushing the
Tatyana McFadden: limits. As my coach said, it was just like, it'll
Tatyana McFadden: happen as a package. You don't need to count anything,
Tatyana McFadden: Tatyana. You just do it.
Aisha Praught Leer: That's beautiful.
Tatyana McFadden: Yeah.
Ali Feller: What are you most excited by, motivated by? I mean,
Ali Feller: you mentioned obviously there's a big part of your brain
Ali Feller: that is the LA 2028 piece of your brain, but
Ali Feller: what are you most excited about or motivated by right now?
Tatyana McFadden: I think I'm really excited and motivated by just how
Tatyana McFadden: well my season has started out. It's on my list
Tatyana McFadden: to win another major marathon and then of course to
Tatyana McFadden: take home as many medals I can in the LA28
Tatyana McFadden: games. And it's just a great time in wheelchair racing
Tatyana McFadden: right now with the new women who've come on, stepped
Tatyana McFadden: on and really pushed the limits and really pushed the
Tatyana McFadden: boundaries because they're making it really fast and exciting. And
Tatyana McFadden: then I have to go home and be like, " All
Tatyana McFadden: right, let me do my homework and figure out how
Tatyana McFadden: I can be a little bit faster and a little
Tatyana McFadden: bit better for this next race."
Aisha Praught Leer: You are a true pioneer.
Tatyana McFadden: Oh, thank you.
Aisha Praught Leer: I mean, I've been watching your career since you started
Aisha Praught Leer: in 2011 and it's got to feel almost purpose driven
Aisha Praught Leer: to know that you're the one that's raised the bar
Aisha Praught Leer: for a lot of women and paved the way. Is
Aisha Praught Leer: that something that you think about as your legacy that
Aisha Praught Leer: you'll be leaving?
Tatyana McFadden: Well, I appreciate you saying that. Thank you. I just
Tatyana McFadden: feel like it's just a bunch of women who really
Tatyana McFadden: have paved the way. The women before me, the women
Tatyana McFadden: currently, but I'm one of many voices and I just
Tatyana McFadden: really love being that voice and I'm honored that people
Tatyana McFadden: want to listen and they follow and they cheer me
Tatyana McFadden: on and so that's really exciting is that people are listening.
Ali Feller: This race this year was bigger than it's ever been.
Ali Feller: We had more than 10,000 athletes finish this race today,
Ali Feller: which I love because 10K for a 10K, that's very-
Tatyana McFadden: Oh, cute.
Ali Feller: Yes. It's really great.
Aisha Praught Leer: Yes.
Ali Feller: What is something that you maybe wish people better understood
Ali Feller: about the wheelchair division in these races? What aren't people
Ali Feller: seeing or fully understanding?
Tatyana McFadden: Yeah, I wish that what people understood is that it's
Tatyana McFadden: like carrying around like an 18 or 20 pound weight
Tatyana McFadden: on your waist and that's what we have to carry
Tatyana McFadden: up and down and it's just with only our arms and
Tatyana McFadden: upper body, which is a sort of a smaller group
Tatyana McFadden: of muscles compared to your thighs and your legs. So we
Tatyana McFadden: really have to train and take care of our shoulders
Tatyana McFadden: and our elbows and our wrists. And so we have to
Tatyana McFadden: play around with different types of styles and of training
Tatyana McFadden: just so we don't either fatigue or tear a muscle
Tatyana McFadden: like in our elbow or in our shoulder, which could
Tatyana McFadden: be easily be done by the weight of the chair
Tatyana McFadden: and how extreme the terrain could be as well.
Ali Feller: I appreciate you sharing that.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you.
Ali Feller: And we appreciate you, Tatyana.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you.
Ali Feller: No race is complete without having you in the field.
Tatyana McFadden: So sweet.
Ali Feller: And so you know you're never allowed to stop racing. Like
Ali Feller: you're a household name.
Tatyana McFadden: Never, never, never.
Aisha Praught Leer: You're a (inaudible) .
Ali Feller: Yeah.
Tatyana McFadden: I'll be 90 out there.
Ali Feller: Perfect. That would be great.
Tatyana McFadden: Yes.
Ali Feller: And we'll probably be using slightly different software to do this.
Tatyana McFadden: Perfect.
Ali Feller: Whatever is there at the time.
Tatyana McFadden: Perfect.
Ali Feller: But truly your impact on this sport is unparalleled and incredible.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you.
Ali Feller: So thank you for all that you do.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you.
Ali Feller: Thank you for hanging out with us here today and safe
Ali Feller: travels and good luck tomorrow.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you. Thank you.
Aisha Praught Leer: Good luck tomorrow.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you. Until next time. Thank you.
Ali Feller: Thanks, Tatyana.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you so much.
Aisha Praught Leer: Congratulations.
Tatyana McFadden: Thank you.
Aisha Praught Leer: So sorry. We are here with Mini 10K winner course
Aisha Praught Leer: record holder, event record holder, world record holder Agnes Ngetich.
Aisha Praught Leer: Welcome. Congratulations.
Agnes Ngetich: Thank you so much.
Aisha Praught Leer: Heck of a bio. Congratulations. You've had what, like an
Aisha Praught Leer: hour to recover from the race. So we'll get into
Aisha Praught Leer: all of how it all went down, but right now,
Aisha Praught Leer: how are you feeling?
Agnes Ngetich: I'm still so excited. So I mean, I want to
Agnes Ngetich: do this and this again and again. So I'm not even tired.
Agnes Ngetich: I mean, so I'm so excited.
Aisha Praught Leer: All right. So Dorian sounds like she is in for
Aisha Praught Leer: next year. Sounds like we will have a defending champion
Aisha Praught Leer: for 2027. Sign her up. Sign her up. So Agnes,
Aisha Praught Leer: was this a bit of revenge from your last time
Aisha Praught Leer: out in New York? Maybe a little bit different weather.
Aisha Praught Leer: How motivated were you today to come out and win?
Agnes Ngetich: I could say from the last year, not even last
Agnes Ngetich: year, couple of months from half marathon, it was cold.
Agnes Ngetich: I suffered. I almost gave up, but I was motivated
Agnes Ngetich: with the managers and coaches and I'm so privileged to
Agnes Ngetich: be invited this second time for Mini 10K. I mean,
Agnes Ngetich: having this big race from 70 finishers to 1, 000 finishers and
Agnes Ngetich: from ladies not allowed to use card to Mastercard supporting,
Agnes Ngetich: I mean, thank you so much.
Aisha Praught Leer: I'm just stunned. The ability for like you're trailblazing, you're
Aisha Praught Leer: setting records everywhere you go, you're paying homage to the
Aisha Praught Leer: women that came before you. Is New York now your
Aisha Praught Leer: favorite place to race?
Agnes Ngetich: Now it's my favorite race already.
Ali Feller: Favorite race? You're all through-
Agnes Ngetich: Yes.
Ali Feller: Like more than Valencia where you ran a world record,
Ali Feller: this is the one?
Agnes Ngetich: The second favorite.
Ali Feller: Okay. What made it, I mean, of course you had
Ali Feller: the comeback story after running the half that wasn't the
Ali Feller: best day. What else is it about today that made
Ali Feller: this your favorite race?
Agnes Ngetich: I really loved crowd. Every corner I was like, " Go go Agnes,
Agnes Ngetich: go Agnes." I was so motivated even though I was
Agnes Ngetich: alone in front and with this group of cheerers everywhere,
Agnes Ngetich: go, go Agnes. I mean, it was so fun. I
Agnes Ngetich: really enjoyed the race and then I was like, I
Agnes Ngetich: could go until 21K to finish the last 21K for last month. So it was so fun.
Ali Feller: So make it longer.
Agnes Ngetich: Yeah.
Ali Feller: Make it longer.
Agnes Ngetich: (inaudible) .
Aisha Praught Leer: Have you heard about the TCS New York City Marathon? That one's a little
Aisha Praught Leer: longer. We'll get you back for that one.
Agnes Ngetich: I hope I will run one day, New York City and I
Agnes Ngetich: will. Yeah.
Ali Feller: Okay. You heard it here, friends. You went out hot
Ali Feller: today. Your first mile was a 4: 47. What was
Ali Feller: the race plan?
Agnes Ngetich: I was to push from four kilometers or five kilometers.
Agnes Ngetich: I didn't expect to push from 800 meters. I was
Agnes Ngetich: like almost one kilometers to push, but I wanted to
Agnes Ngetich: enjoy the race and you know racing with this competitive
Agnes Ngetich: women will be (inaudible) the elite athletes amazing and
Agnes Ngetich: everyone was strong. So I was like, I will go
Agnes Ngetich: in front and see who will follow and we will
Agnes Ngetich: push together, you see? And I push and no one
Agnes Ngetich: came and I was like, let me just keep on going and
Agnes Ngetich: enjoy the race, have fun. And yeah.
Aisha Praught Leer: Once you realized you were solo, what was pushing you
Aisha Praught Leer: toward the finish? What was the motivation behind running so fast?
Agnes Ngetich: Still the ground because every corner was like Agnes, go,
Agnes Ngetich: Agnes, go, Agnes, go. I could not even like bored
Agnes Ngetich: in the race. I really enjoyed every mile, every kilometer. So
Agnes Ngetich: yeah, it was so fun.
Ali Feller: That course record and event record that you ran today,
Ali Feller: was that because you were having so much fun out
Ali Feller: there or was that something you were focused on? Did
Ali Feller: you know the course record going into this race?
Agnes Ngetich: First, it's my debut here. I've never run in the course
Agnes Ngetich: so I didn't know I will go with the course
Agnes Ngetich: record, but I realized when I was crossing five kilometers
Agnes Ngetich: and I checked the watch and on the car in
Agnes Ngetich: front and I saw I could run under 30: 10 and
Agnes Ngetich: I was like, let me try and we see because
Agnes Ngetich: I was alone in front and I was like, let me push
Agnes Ngetich: and see what's going to be here.
Aisha Praught Leer: When you're coming down, when you're coming toward the finish,
Aisha Praught Leer: could you feel ... I mean, this is a hard course.
Aisha Praught Leer: This is not Valencia. This is a tough-
Agnes Ngetich: It's so hard. I mean, from five kilometers in fact,
Agnes Ngetich: but the first five kilometer was not that hilly, but the
Agnes Ngetich: last one had goes better. I'm someone who loved cross
Agnes Ngetich: country since, so I'm used to this climbing and going
Agnes Ngetich: down. So yeah.
Aisha Praught Leer: You're the perfect runner for New York City.
Agnes Ngetich: Thank you. Thank you so much.
Aisha Praught Leer: Hopefully we see you back here year after year. But
Aisha Praught Leer: again, Agnes, congratulations. Excellent day.
Agnes Ngetich: Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Aisha Praught Leer: Thanks for being here with us.
Agnes Ngetich: Thank you.
Aisha Praught Leer: Congratulations.
Agnes Ngetich: Thank you.
Ali Feller: All right. We are sitting down with Shira Stein. Shira's someone
Ali Feller: who never really saw herself as an athlete, but then
Ali Feller: at 40 years old facing a breast cancer diagnosis and
Ali Feller: a double mastectomy, your relationship with your body totally changed
Ali Feller: and running became how Shira took care of her health.
Ali Feller: It's how she rediscovered her own strength. And last spring,
Ali Feller: she crossed the finish line of her first half marathon
Ali Feller: feeling understandably like a superhero. Last month she ran the
Ali Feller: RBC Brooklyn Half and today ran her very first Mastercard
Ali Feller: New York Mini 10K and your daughter was out there
Ali Feller: cheering you on, your 12 year old. Was she there, no?
Shira Stein: She was sleeping.
Ali Feller: She slept? No.
Aisha Praught Leer: Pathetic.
Ali Feller: But you were there.
Shira Stein: Very much.
Ali Feller: Were you again today feeling like a superhero?
Shira Stein: Yeah. I had a moment in the corral. It's really
Shira Stein: emotional that I'm able to do this and I get
Shira Stein: to do this and I'm making the choice to do
Shira Stein: it and I'm doing it for myself and it's really
Shira Stein: powerful and surrounded by women in the Mastercard New York Mini
Shira Stein: 10K. And I had no idea when I signed up
Shira Stein: for a race the magnitude of historical significance and it hit
Shira Stein: me and I'm so glad I was here.
Ali Feller: We're so glad you're here too.
Aisha Praught Leer: We're so glad you're here.
Shira Stein: Thank you.
Ali Feller: Can you describe when you were standing in the starting
Ali Feller: corrals and you looked around at a sea of ... I
Ali Feller: mean, it's as far as your eye can see in
Ali Feller: every direction, it's 10,000 women running this race. What did
Ali Feller: you see? What did you feel when you were getting
Ali Feller: ready to start this race?
Shira Stein: Women being empowered and not letting anything stop them and
Shira Stein: doing it for themselves maybe and not because they should,
Shira Stein: but hopefully because they're enjoying it and it brings meaning
Shira Stein: and balance.
Ali Feller: That shift that we mentioned of going through this very
Ali Feller: scary diagnosis at a very young age and that completely
Ali Feller: rocks your world. That shift of going from I'm not
Ali Feller: an athlete or I'm not a runner or whatever, things
Ali Feller: we tell ourselves. When did that change? Was there one
Ali Feller: morning that you said I'm going to try running or
Ali Feller: this is what I want to do now? When did that
Ali Feller: happen and why?
Shira Stein: It wasn't an overnight thing. So I was diagnosed in
Shira Stein: August of 2021 and I only picked up running a
Shira Stein: year ago-
Aisha Praught Leer: Wow.
Shira Stein: ... in April of 2025. I guess it was a
Shira Stein: beautiful morning and since moving to New York City, I've
Shira Stein: always been so moved by the New York City Marathon
Shira Stein: and I've enjoyed watching it and cheering everyone on. And
Shira Stein: so I woke up that morning and I lived near
Shira Stein: a park because we've got great parks here in the city
Shira Stein: and I was curious and I took a run and
Shira Stein: I fell in love.
Ali Feller: Wait, on that first one?
Shira Stein: Yeah.
Ali Feller: The first time I went for a run, I ran
Ali Feller: for 38 seconds, keeled over and thought that was it
Ali Feller: for me. So I love that you had the literal
Ali Feller: exact opposite experience.
Shira Stein: Yeah.
Ali Feller: Shira, you're a runner.
Shira Stein: Yeah, right?
Ali Feller: You're a runner, you're a racer, you're a New Yorker, you're doing so much.
Ali Feller: What are some key takeaways from today?
Shira Stein: Please follow all medical guidelines for breast cancer screening. Very
Shira Stein: important. And if you're curious about running, do it.
Ali Feller: I'll change your life.
Shira Stein: Yeah.
Ali Feller: Unbelievably inspired by you. Congratulations on a great day and
Ali Feller: thank you for spending time with us.
Shira Stein: Oh, thank you for having me.
Aisha Praught Leer: Thank you so much. Congratulations.
Shira Stein: I appreciate it. Thank you.
Aisha Praught Leer: Reminding myself of going through all ... Oh, sorry. Danielle Todman
Aisha Praught Leer: is an Air Force veteran, a domestic violence survivor and
Aisha Praught Leer: the head cross country and track and field coach at
Aisha Praught Leer: Kean University. After Danielle escaped an abusive relationship, she found
Aisha Praught Leer: healing in a community of women runners. Now she shares
Aisha Praught Leer: her story in hopes that she can help other women
Aisha Praught Leer: recognize the warning signs she once missed. Today, Danielle ran
Aisha Praught Leer: her first ever Mastercard New York Mini 10K while celebrating
Aisha Praught Leer: her 20th anniversary of joining the Air Force. Congratulations. How
Aisha Praught Leer: does it feel?
Danielle Todman: Oh, it's an unreal experience. So this is my first
Danielle Todman: 10K. I didn't really know what to expect, so I'd
Danielle Todman: just been training since March for it. And when I got
Danielle Todman: here today, the atmosphere was unreal. And then you see
Danielle Todman: the wave of runners as you're walking up to the
Danielle Todman: start and I'm like, " Well," but then you just see ... It was just
Danielle Todman: a feeling. I can't describe it that you know you
Danielle Todman: were just in the right place and it was just supportive. You had women literally
Danielle Todman: cheering you on as you were running next to each other.
Danielle Todman: You had people playing music and like I was telling somebody
Danielle Todman: that they were playing Destiny Child's Survivor the last mile.
Ali Feller: Come on.
Aisha Praught Leer: That'll do it.
Ali Feller: Yeah.
Danielle Todman: So then you just see a burst of energy just
Danielle Todman: go into the last mile. So it was really fun today.
Ali Feller: Is it correct this was your first women's only race?
Danielle Todman: Yes, my first women's only race, my first 10K ever.
Danielle Todman: So it was a good day.
Ali Feller: Don't you always want to do women only races now?
Danielle Todman: Yeah, it was really different-
Ali Feller: Right?
Danielle Todman: ... because it was just cheering and everybody was just,
Danielle Todman: it was community. So it was really good to be
Danielle Todman: around people that were also overcoming something, accomplishing something, helping
Danielle Todman: somebody accomplish something. So it was a cool day.
Aisha Praught Leer: I love the idea that everybody out there is running
Aisha Praught Leer: for a purpose and running for a reason and everyone
Aisha Praught Leer: has their own story. Could you feel that collectively when you were
Aisha Praught Leer: out there-
Danielle Todman: Oh, yeah.
Aisha Praught Leer: ... in the pack?
Danielle Todman: Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. People were like, " Come with me,
Danielle Todman: come with me. Don't stop." And I was just watching that. So
Danielle Todman: then there was a group of us that actually kind
Danielle Todman: of finished together from the start to the finish. So we
Danielle Todman: were trying to just make sure that we were staying
Danielle Todman: hydrated and everything like that.
Ali Feller: Did you know each other?
Danielle Todman: Absolutely not.
Ali Feller: But you do now?
Danielle Todman: Yeah.
Ali Feller: Is there a group chat?
Danielle Todman: Well, we're creating one. So I just got everybody's IG, so
Danielle Todman: we're cool. Yeah.
Ali Feller: Oh my gosh. This is what it's all about.
Danielle Todman: Yeah.
Ali Feller: So you are also a coach.
Danielle Todman: Yes, ma'am.
Ali Feller: What does that look like when you are running a
Ali Feller: race? Does your coach brain switch on to yourself or
Ali Feller: are you very just gentle, kind, motivating to yourself?
Danielle Todman: I don't know if I'm gentle, kind, but for me,
Danielle Todman: I just tried to apply and show my athletes that
Danielle Todman: I do understand and I do the same thing, try
Danielle Todman: to lead by example. So it was surprising to me
Danielle Todman: because my athlete actually surprised me at the finish line.
Danielle Todman: Yeah, I burst in tears. I lost it.
Ali Feller: I'm going to.
Danielle Todman: So she was like, " Coach." And I looked and I
Danielle Todman: looked again and she was standing there.
Aisha Praught Leer: It's such a great example to practice what you preach
Aisha Praught Leer: and you're out there doing something hard and to turn
Aisha Praught Leer: and see someone that you're guiding and you're mentoring through
Aisha Praught Leer: this, that must be such a full circle moment.
Danielle Todman: It was. I just did not think anybody was going
Danielle Todman: to come, but she showed up and I was like, "
Danielle Todman: Wow," because she's like, " I'm so proud of you, coach." And
Danielle Todman: I was like, " I'm going to lose it. " And I did. So it was cool.
Danielle Todman: So yeah.
Ali Feller: Well, that's obviously a testament to who you are as
Ali Feller: a person, as a coach, and as a mentor figure
Ali Feller: for these athletes, which is pretty incredible. What's the key
Ali Feller: takeaway from today? What do you think you'll remember most from
Ali Feller: the 2026 Mini 10K?
Danielle Todman: There's a lot of moments. I just think that strength
Danielle Todman: collectively is the key takeaway. If you think you're alone,
Danielle Todman: you're not. There are people that literally are going to
Danielle Todman: help you and make sure you finish. That's the key
Danielle Todman: takeaway. So if anybody's thinking about doing a race, in
Danielle Todman: particular woman, do this 10K next year.
Ali Feller: Add us to the group chat.
Aisha Praught Leer: We want in.
Ali Feller: We didn't run the race, but we are here for
Ali Feller: the hype and so we'd love to be considered.
Danielle Todman: Okay.
Ali Feller: This is our application. You're amazing. Thank you so much
Ali Feller: for sharing your story with us and for being such
Ali Feller: a light in this world and doing so much for
Ali Feller: the people around you. It's awesome to have you as
Ali Feller: part of this community.
Danielle Todman: Well, thank you. And I look forward to having ... coming back.
Aisha Praught Leer: Thanks, Danielle.
Danielle Todman: Thank you.
Ali Feller: Congratulations.
Aisha Praught Leer: Thank you so much.
Danielle Todman: Thank you.
Ali Feller: Yay. Thank you so much. All right. If you've ever thought, I don't have enough
Ali Feller: hours in the day, which same. We would love to
Ali Feller: introduce you to Kathleen London. Kathleen is a physician who
Ali Feller: picked up triathlons randomly in her 40s with zero experience
Ali Feller: while running a medical clinic full- time and she decided
Ali Feller: that a global pandemic was the perfect moment to start
Ali Feller: law school. In April 2025, Kathleen's own medical instincts kicked
Ali Feller: in when she caught a brain tumor that sent her
Ali Feller: straight into surgery. Six weeks later, she was on the
Ali Feller: run. Months after that, she recognized some of the same
Ali Feller: symptoms that she'd experienced in her son. She pushed him
Ali Feller: to go to the hospital and she saved his life.
Ali Feller: Today they are both brain tumor survivors and today Kathleen
Ali Feller: ran the Mini 10K. You're amazing.
Aisha Praught Leer: You're a superhero.
Ali Feller: Do enough people tell you that every day?
Kathleen London: No, but thank you.
Ali Feller: Because we will. We'll tell you that every day. You're
Ali Feller: incredible. How was your race today? Let's start there.
Kathleen London: It was crowded. It was hot and it was fun.
Ali Feller: Perfect summary.
Kathleen London: I was a minute per mile slower than I intended-
Ali Feller: Fine.
Kathleen London: ... but I had such a good time. It was
Kathleen London: clear that it was crowded enough, but the energy was
Kathleen London: like you had asked someone else what it was like
Kathleen London: to look. As I was running and I could see down
Kathleen London: Central Park West and I'm like, " This is so empowering."
Kathleen London: It's funny because I don't want to do all women
Kathleen London: only races. I want to do this one. There's something about the Mastercard
Kathleen London: New York Mini 10K that is just ... I don't know
Kathleen London: how to describe it. To see all these women who
Kathleen London: are strong, who are out there and cheering each other
Kathleen London: on is just, it's amazing.
Aisha Praught Leer: It's iconic. I mean, it's one of those races that
Aisha Praught Leer: you look at and I've always admired from afar, but
Aisha Praught Leer: when you're here and you feel it's totally different than
Aisha Praught Leer: any other race I've ever been to.
Ali Feller: So there were 10,000 athletes out there competing and-
Kathleen London: Oh, I felt that.
Ali Feller: ... completing this race today. Yeah. You felt all 10,000.
Kathleen London: There was no room to go. I was like-
Ali Feller: It was packed.
Kathleen London: ... okay. It was early on I'm like, "Okay, forget PRing and it's okay."
Ali Feller: Just take it all in.
Kathleen London: It's a race for energy, right? I'm training for two marathons right
Kathleen London: now, fundraising for brain tumor research. And so this was
Kathleen London: just a check- in a sense and for the fun
Kathleen London: of it.
Ali Feller: There's always the fun of it. Yeah.
Kathleen London: Yeah.
Ali Feller: Your story is so incredible and it's almost unbelievable for
Ali Feller: you to go through something so serious and then within
Ali Feller: months, your son has the same experience.
Kathleen London: His was worse. His was twice the size of mine
Kathleen London: and in a much more difficult to get to area.
Kathleen London: And so mine was frontal lobe and a meningioma. He
Kathleen London: had a schwannoma, which the good news of those is
Kathleen London: they don't recur, but much larger area to the point
Kathleen London: where they couldn't get it all and he needed radiation
Kathleen London: as well as surgery. Watching your child go through it
Kathleen London: is horrific. As bad as it is to go through
Kathleen London: it myself, I'm looking back, it's 13 months. A year
Kathleen London: ago, I just started running again, literally. I went six
Kathleen London: weeks post- op to India for my ... that son's wedding
Kathleen London: and while in India, went on my first walk run
Kathleen London: and now I'm racing and I'm doing it because I
Kathleen London: can. It's such a privilege and I feel that every
Kathleen London: time I go out and run.
Aisha Praught Leer: When you look back on that journey specifically bringing your
Aisha Praught Leer: body back to where it is today, was that something
Aisha Praught Leer: that gave you strength? Was that intimidating or was it
Aisha Praught Leer: more something that you walked out the door and could
Aisha Praught Leer: maybe feel at home?
Kathleen London: It was one of those things where ... So I ran
Kathleen London: and I stopped running about in 2017- ish and I
Kathleen London: knew at that post- op, at that wedding that I
Kathleen London: need to run marathons again. I have to raise money
Kathleen London: for research. And then when Noah got diagnosed, that cemented
Kathleen London: it, that I'm meant to do this. And here's the
Kathleen London: cool thing because I started running late. I'm getting faster.
Aisha Praught Leer: Faster.
Ali Feller: Yes.
Kathleen London: So I'm an old lady, but I'm getting faster.
Ali Feller: Faster as master.
Aisha Praught Leer: Faster as master. Yes. Is there a message that you would share? I
Aisha Praught Leer: think we so often when someone has been through something
Aisha Praught Leer: challenging in life, we ask, what is your message for
Aisha Praught Leer: other survivors? What is your message for people going through
Aisha Praught Leer: something similar? I'd love to know what is your message
Aisha Praught Leer: for the parents out there and for the people who
Aisha Praught Leer: are navigating something hard that feels very much out of
Aisha Praught Leer: their control that a loved one is going through. Is
Aisha Praught Leer: there caretaking advice you'd offer?
Kathleen London: Listen to them, just being there. Like having my own
Kathleen London: family around me when I went through it and then
Kathleen London: knowing how important that was for me, just being in
Kathleen London: the room. There was a period of time post- op
Kathleen London: that he had to be sedated and intubated and so
Kathleen London: on a breathing tube and so just being there. And
Kathleen London: that is so much of what people need. We get
Kathleen London: energy from each other. I mean, that's what you feel
Kathleen London: today, right? We get that energy from each other and
Kathleen London: that's so healing. And you have control over what you
Kathleen London: can do, right? So I can go running even when
Kathleen London: I don't feel like it. And that is what gives
Kathleen London: me the strength.
Ali Feller: Can we go back to the training for two marathons piece?
Aisha Praught Leer: Circle back to that.
Ali Feller: Yeah. Just real quick. Tell us about what you're training for and why.
Kathleen London: I'm training for Sydney. It's on my birthday this year.
Aisha Praught Leer: A course I love.
Kathleen London: So of course I had to go into the lottery
Kathleen London: and I got in. And so that son-
Aisha Praught Leer: That's perfect.
Kathleen London: ... my son Noah and his wife are going to
Kathleen London: come with me. I'm running it for us. And then
Kathleen London: Chicago, I'm running for the American Brain Tumor Association because
Kathleen London: though they say that his and my tumors were unrelated,
Kathleen London: I say it's a gene we don't know yet. And
Kathleen London: I've run into so many other families who had the
Kathleen London: same thing of somebody else in the family having a
Kathleen London: brain tumor that I'm like, the research has to happen.
Kathleen London: And so I'm raising money for brain tumor research.
Aisha Praught Leer: Kathleen, you are an absolute superhero. Thank you for spending
Aisha Praught Leer: time with us today and congratulations on a great day.
Kathleen London: Thank you so much for having me.
Ali Feller: Celebrate everything. You're amazing. Thank you so much and of
Ali Feller: course sending love to Noah as well.
Kathleen London: Thanks.
Ali Feller: Thank you.
Aisha Praught Leer: That's it for this special Rerun the Mastercard New York
Aisha Praught Leer: Mini 10K live episode.
Ali Feller: No, I don't want it to be it.
Aisha Praught Leer: We don't want it to be over. We don't want it to be over. Thanks
Aisha Praught Leer: for joining this episode of Set the Pace with Ali
Aisha Praught Leer: on the Run and CITIUS. Thank you to all of
Aisha Praught Leer: our guests and to New York Roadrunners for this amazing
Aisha Praught Leer: day. Cheers.
Ali Feller: Congratulations runners.