WEBVTT - 7 Marathons on 7 Continents in SIX days!  A Father's Journey

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<v Juan Uro>Many  people  are  putting  a  lot  of  emphasis  on whether  they 

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<v Juan Uro>can  achieve  something  or  not.  But  I  would  say  that 

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<v Juan Uro>the  pursuit  of  excellence  or  the  pursuit  of  something  extraordinary 

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<v Juan Uro>sometimes  can  be  much  more  rewarding  than  the  achievement  of 

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<v Juan Uro>something  extraordinary.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hey  everybody  and  welcome  to  another  episode  of  Set  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Pace,  the  official  podcast  of  New  York  Road  Runners  presented 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>by  Peloton.  I'm  your  host,  Rob  Simmelkjaer,  the  CEO  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  Road  Runners,  my  friend  and  partner,  Becs  Gentry. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>She's  on  her  way  back  from  a  trip  to  Los 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Angeles  so  we'll  be  missing  her  today,  but  looking  forward 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  a  reunion  with  Becs  and  me  on  the  show 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>next  week.  In  the  meantime,  what  a  weekend  we  had 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>last  weekend  at  New  York  Road  Runners,  the  largest  ever 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>MasterCard  New  York  Mini  10K  in  Central  Park  with 9, 973 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>women  athletes  finishing  that  race  on  a  muggy  but  runnable 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>day  in  Central  Park.  It  was  such  a  special  day, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>man,  we  just  love  that  race  at  New  York  Road 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Runners.  There's  nothing  like  seeing  10,000  women  streaming  down  Central 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Park  West  into  the  park  and  finishing  that  race.  I 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>know  for  all  of  them,  all  of  you  out  there 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>who  run  that  race,  I  hear  it  year  in  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year  out,  it  is  one  of  the  most  special  running 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>experiences  that  you  have.
 And  so,  so  happy  that  it 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  such  a  great  day  for  all  of  our  great 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>women  out  there  running  the  MasterCard  New  York  Mini  10K. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>The  winner,  Hellen Obiri, the  2023  United  Airlines  NYC  Half  and  TCS 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  City  Marathon  champ,  she  captured  the  open  division 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>title  with  a  blazing  time  of  30  minutes  and  44 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>seconds.  The  runner- up  may  have  been  just  as  big 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  story,  Weini Kelati  ran  a  new  American  event  record  at 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>30  minutes  and  49  seconds.  She  was  right  there  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hellen  Obiri  all  the  way  until  about  the  last  say 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>quarter  mile.  She  really  gave  Hellen  a  run  for  her 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>money.  Susannah  Scaroni  won  a  record- breaking  six  MasterCard  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  Mini  10K  title  in  the  Wheelchair  Division  with  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>new  event  record.  And  it  was  the  largest  girls  run 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  history,  that's  right,  the  biggest  attendance  we've  ever  had 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  the  mini  kids  run,  more  than 508 to eight to  18- year- old 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>girls  took  to  the  streets  to  run  on  Saturday.  It 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  well,  it  was  a  really,  really  special  day.
 All 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>right,  coming  up  on  this  week's  episode,  it's  Father's  Day 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>week  and  boy,  there's  no  holiday  I  love  more  than 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Father's  Day.  I  always  say  fatherhood  it's  the  toughest  but 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>best  job  I've  ever  had  so  Happy  Father's  Day  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>all  of  the  fellow  dads  out  there  listening.  Really  appreciate 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  and  hopefully  all  the  people  in  your  life  give 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  a  special,  special  day  this  coming  weekend.  We've  got 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  very  special  Father's  Day  conversation  with  one  of  our 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  Road  Runners  board  members,  Juan  Uro,  who  like 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Becs  recently  completed  seven  marathons  on  seven  continents  in  seven 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>days.  Juan  and  I  will  talk  about  some  of  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>meaning  behind  his  running  those  marathons  and  countless  other  marathons 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>over  the  course  of  his  life.  All  so  much  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it  really  done  in  honor  of  the  son  that  he 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>lost,  Bautista.
 We'll  talk  about  that  and  fatherhood  and  everything 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  Juan  has  learned  from  a  life  of  running  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>his  incredible  accomplishment  in  the  World  Marathon  Challenge.  And  then, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>later  on  in  the  show  we'll  have  New  York  Road 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Runners  member  and  non- binary  champion  Galo  Vasquez,  and  then 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>coming  up  with  this  weekend's  Flushing  Meadows  Kids  run  at 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Citizens  Queens  10K,  that's  all  coming  up  on  Saturday. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>We've  got  a  special  Med  Minute  with  HSS,  that's  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>hospital  for  special  surgery  and  we're  going  to  feature  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>sports  physical  therapist  for  young  athletes,  Yukiko  Matsuzaki  will  join  us as well.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Today  on  Set  the  Pace.  I'm  joined  by  my  friend 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  one  of  our  New  York  Road  Runners  board  members, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Juan  Uro.  Juan  is  a  partner  at  EY- Parthenon  advising 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>global  CFOs  and  CEOs  on  strategy  and  finance,  but  he's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>also  a  passionate  marathoner,  so  passionate  that  earlier  this  year 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>he  channeled  a  little  Becs  Gentry  magic  by  completing  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>World  Marathon  Challenge  running  yes,  seven  marathons  on  seven  continents 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  seven  days.  Juan  races  in  memory  of  his  late 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>son  Bautista  and  he  now  shares  finish  line  moments  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>his  wife,  Mariela  and  daughter  Isabella  and  we're  so  glad 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  have  Juan  here  on  the  show.  Juan,  welcome  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>set  the  pace  and  congratulations  on  being  yet  another  person 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  complete  this  unbelievable  challenge  of  seven  marathons  on  seven 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>continents  in  seven  days.

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<v Juan Uro>Thank  you  Rob,  so  great to  be  with  you  today. And you think there were only  one 

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<v Juan Uro>crazy  person  with  Becs,  but  there's  many  of  us I guess, or at least a handful.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>There's  enough  to  keep  a  couple  of  these  races  going 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>every  year.  I  was  fortunate  enough  to  follow  along  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  races.  We  had  a  little  chat,  some  board  members, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>some  former  Road  Runners  executives  there  cheering  you  on.  And 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  guess  I  just  have  to  ask  first  and  foremost, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>what  drove  you  to  do  that?  I  always  have  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>ask  the  question  of  what  drives  someone  to  sign  up 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  a  challenge  like  that?

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<v Juan Uro>Interesting.  I  think  there  wasn't  necessarily  one  trigger  event  but 

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<v Juan Uro>a  multiplicity  of  factors.  I  will  start  with,  Rob  probably 

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<v Juan Uro>you  don't  know  but  you  have  a  big  part  and NYRR 

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<v Juan Uro>have  a  big  part  because  the  first  time  I  found 

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<v Juan Uro>out  about  this  seven  marathons  in  seven  continents  in  seven 

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<v Juan Uro>days  was  in  the  New York  Marathon  Expo  in  2023.  And 

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<v Juan Uro>literally  in  my  role  in  the  board  I  always  pay 

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<v Juan Uro>special  attention  for  partners  and  activation  and  how  good  people 

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<v Juan Uro>are  having  experiences  in  the  Expo  so  I  literally  visit 

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<v Juan Uro>all  the  stands.  And  I  saw  this  booth  about  this 

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<v Juan Uro>challenge  and  it's  always  free  T- shirts  are a  good  thing 

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<v Juan Uro>so  they  gave  me  the  T- shirt,  they  got  my 

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<v Juan Uro>email  address  and  I  left  the  Expo  thinking, " Okay,  you 

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<v Juan Uro>never  know.  That's  a  crazy  idea,  I  couldn't  do  it." 

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<v Juan Uro>I  put  that  idea  to  sleep,  I  wore  the  T-

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<v Juan Uro>shirt  a  couple  of  times.  But  then  in  April  of 

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<v Juan Uro>'24  I  was  going  to  run  the  Boston  Marathon  and 

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<v Juan Uro>my  company  had  an  off- site  in  London  the  week 

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<v Juan Uro>after,  full  week.
 So,  in  talking  with  my  wife,  it 

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<v Juan Uro>was  her  birthday,  we  said, " Hey,  why  don't  we  go 

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<v Juan Uro>to  London  for  the  weekend?  By  the  way,  we  can 

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<v Juan Uro>celebrate  your  birthday  and  by  the  way,  there  is  this 

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<v Juan Uro>small  race  called  the  London  Marathon.  If  you're  okay,  I'm 

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<v Juan Uro>going  to  try  to  run  it."  So,  I  asked  NYRR to see 

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<v Juan Uro>if  there  was  a  possibility  and  I  ended  up  getting 

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<v Juan Uro>into  the  London  Marathon.  So,  without  really  thinking  too  much, 

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<v Juan Uro>it  became  two  marathons  in  one  week.  And  then,  I 

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<v Juan Uro>came  back  to  that  seven  and  said, " Hey,  this  was 

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<v Juan Uro>difficult  but  not  impossible  so  who  knows?  Two  marathons  in 

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<v Juan Uro>one  week  is  very  different  than  seven  marathons."  But  I 

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<v Juan Uro>started  to  take it  a  little  bit  more  seriously.  And  along 

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<v Juan Uro>the  summer  of  2024,  yeah,  2024,  I  decide  to  really 

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<v Juan Uro>learn  more  about  what  it  will  take  to do the  race.  So, 

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<v Juan Uro>a  couple  of  people  who  have  done  it  before,  they 

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<v Juan Uro>gave  me  a  couple  of  hints.
 So,  I  was  supposed 

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<v Juan Uro>to  try  at  least  a  week  of  multiple  runs  of 15 to 

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<v Juan Uro>20  miles.  Guess  what?  The  second  day  that  I  tried 

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<v Juan Uro>that  first  day  20  miles,  second  day  I  was  in 

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<v Juan Uro>Central  Park and  I  ran  into  this  guy  that  was  running 

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<v Juan Uro>seven  marathons  in  seven  days  for  climate  advocacy.  I  have 

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<v Juan Uro>run  in  Central  Park  for  20  years  I  never  saw 

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<v Juan Uro>a  guy  trying  seven  marathons  in  seven  days  so  it 

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<v Juan Uro>was  like, " There's  too  much  serendipity  here,  there's  too  many 

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<v Juan Uro>connecting  aspects."  So,  I  ended  up  catching  up  with  the 

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<v Juan Uro>fellow,  asked  him  a little bit of a  couple  of  tips  how  he  prepared, 

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<v Juan Uro>and  then  when  I  shared  a  little  bit  of  my 

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<v Juan Uro>running  resume,  which  is  not  impressive  but  at  least  there's 

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<v Juan Uro>a  lot  of  miles  certainly,  he  said, " You  are  ready." 

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<v Juan Uro>So,  I  committed  to  do  it.  I  was  supposed  to 

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<v Juan Uro>run  the  race  that  actually  Becs  ran  because  there's  two 

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<v Juan Uro>different  organizations  that  do  that  but  because  of-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah, back in November.

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<v Juan Uro>Yeah,  exactly  November.  But  because  of  work  I  couldn't  really 

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<v Juan Uro>get  off  and  take  a  week  off  in  November  to do 

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<v Juan Uro>that.  So,  the  other  company  that  organized  it  was  sold 

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<v Juan Uro>out  in  2025  so  I  was going to do it in  2026.  So  again,  put a 

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<v Juan Uro>little  bit  the  commitment  to  rest  because  who  knows  it 

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<v Juan Uro>will  be  12  months  from  the  time  being,  I  ended 

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<v Juan Uro>up  running  New  York  and  the  Philly  Marathon.  And  after 

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<v Juan Uro>I  ran  Philly  was  like  tough  year,  put  a  lot 

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<v Juan Uro>of  miles  to  prepare  for  this  and  there's  still  12 

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<v Juan Uro>months  to  do  it.  So,  we  ended  up  going  to 

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<v Juan Uro>Argentina where  I  was  born  for  Thanksgiving  break.  And  after  I 

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<v Juan Uro>landed  into  Argentina  I  got  a  note  saying, " Hey,  one 

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<v Juan Uro>of  the  runners  got  hurt.  There's  an  opening  in  five 

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<v Juan Uro>weeks,  will  you  think  about  it?"

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Wow.

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<v Juan Uro>And  I  said  to my  wife, " It  cannot  get  better  than 

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<v Juan Uro>that."  It's  like  after  12  hours  moving  from  cold  weather 

0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.120
<v Juan Uro>to  hot  weather,  that's  the whole  experience  so  I  committed  to 

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<v Juan Uro>do  it.  So  again,  it  was  a  little  bit  of 

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<v Juan Uro>a  process  of  signal,  so  to  speak,  between  the  Expo, 

0:11:06.900 --> 0:11:09.630
<v Juan Uro>the  fact  that  again,  Boston  and  London  became  a  little 

0:11:09.630 --> 0:11:14.069
<v Juan Uro>bit  of  a  fortress,  running  into  a  person  in  Central 

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<v Juan Uro>Park  and  gave  me  a  little  bit  of  the  confidence, 

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<v Juan Uro>and  then  again  this  trip  to  Argentina  and  it  was 

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<v Juan Uro>exactly  the  perfect  day  to  get a note  like  that.  So,  it 

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<v Juan Uro>doesn't  speak  necessarily  of  the  underlying  factors  but  it  was 

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<v Juan Uro>not  a  dream  come  true  that  I  wake  up  one 

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<v Juan Uro>day,  it  was  a  little  bit  of a series of,  as  I  said, 

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<v Juan Uro>signals  that  moved  me  into  that.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  signal  followed  by  the  fateful  email  that  had  you 

0:11:43.860 --> 0:11:45.660
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  and  ready  to  do  it  in  five  weeks,  which 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  impressive.  So,  before  we  get  into  those  seven  races, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  want  to  take  a  step  way  back,  Juan  like 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  flashback  at  a  movie  to  the  origins  of  your 

0:11:56.250 --> 0:12:00.090
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>running  and  how  it  all  really  started  for  you.  Your 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>bio  on  the  World  Marathon  Challenge  webpage  talks  about  the 

0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.350
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>fact  that  you  began  running  a  little  later  in  life. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>What  was  it  that  really  got  you  running  in  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>first  place?

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<v Juan Uro>Yeah,  I  think  I  should  edit  that  because  probably  what 

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<v Juan Uro>I  would  consider  these  days  as  more  cold  running  I 

0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:27.270
<v Juan Uro>took  it  very  late  in  life.  But  it  started  back 

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<v Juan Uro>in  high  school  year  and  it  was  not  really  running 

0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.079
<v Juan Uro>it  was  a  little  bit  of  jogging,  but I think  in  my 

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<v Juan Uro>senior  year  in  high  school  I  had  a  pretty  severe 

0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.900
<v Juan Uro>foot  sprain  and  I  needed  to  use  a  cast  for 

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<v Juan Uro>a  couple  of  months.  And  look,  I  played  different  sports 

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<v Juan Uro>as  a  kid,  only  recreational  but  nothing  competitive  but  I 

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<v Juan Uro>wasn't  good  at  any  of  those.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You're  from  Argentina  so  soccer  must've  been  in  the  mix  somewhere.

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<v Juan Uro>Yeah, soccer is a must  but  definitely  I  was  pretty  bad.  But  I  was 

0:12:57.420 --> 0:13:01.469
<v Juan Uro>very  consistent  in  being  bad  at  tennis,  at  basketball,  at 

0:13:01.470 --> 0:13:06.329
<v Juan Uro>rugby  so  I tried  everything  and  confirmed  that I  was  bad  at 

0:13:06.330 --> 0:13:11.579
<v Juan Uro>everything.  But  anyway,  after  that  injury  I  probably  gained  like 

0:13:11.580 --> 0:13:16.320
<v Juan Uro>15  or  20  pounds  and you are in  your  late  teenager  years.  So, 

0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:21.030
<v Juan Uro>running  became,  I  think  I  remember  it  was  three  loops 

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<v Juan Uro>into  a  square  of  half  a  mile,  so a mile and a  half  and 

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<v Juan Uro>I  was  doing  it  two  or  three  times  per  week 

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<v Juan Uro>and  just  to  be  in  shape  or  to  look  better, 

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<v Juan Uro>honestly.  It  was  a  simple  physical  health  aspect  in  my 

0:13:41.910 --> 0:13:44.160
<v Juan Uro>early  20s  and  as  I  said,  only  two  or  three 

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<v Juan Uro>times  per  week,  but  it  was  still  running.  Then  with 

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<v Juan Uro>my  wife,  we  got  married,  emigrated  to  New  York  in the early 

0:13:55.020 --> 0:14:00.090
<v Juan Uro>2000s  and  I  heard  about  this  small  race  called  the 

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<v Juan Uro>New  Year  Marathon.
 So,  at  that  point  it  was  like, "

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<v Juan Uro>Hey,  we  may  be  in  New  York  only  for  two 

0:14:06.030 --> 0:14:10.469
<v Juan Uro>or  three  years,  what  an  interesting  challenge."  A,  to  do 

0:14:10.590 --> 0:14:13.800
<v Juan Uro>a  marathon,  never  in  my  life  I  did  more  than 

0:14:13.830 --> 0:14:17.520
<v Juan Uro>maybe  10K  at  that  point.  And  if  you  are  going 

0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:23.580
<v Juan Uro>to do a marathon, do the marathon,  the  New  Year  one.  So,  it  became  a  little 

0:14:23.580 --> 0:14:30.240
<v Juan Uro>bit  of  less  about  physical  looks  or  physical  wellbeing  but 

0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.560
<v Juan Uro>more  a  little  bit  of  goal  setting  for  yourself  a 

0:14:34.770 --> 0:14:39.330
<v Juan Uro>challenge,  an  opportunity  of  something  that  maybe  I  was  going 

0:14:39.330 --> 0:14:45.720
<v Juan Uro>to do  only  once  in  my  lifetime.  So,  I  did  a 

0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.260
<v Juan Uro>little  bit  of  the  preparation.  Looking  back  to  the  plan 

0:14:49.260 --> 0:14:53.370
<v Juan Uro>that  I  did,  it  was  completely  unprepared,  maybe 16  or  17 

0:14:53.370 --> 0:14:59.010
<v Juan Uro>miles  was  my  longest  run,  30  miles  in  total.  If 

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<v Juan Uro>at  some  point  you  go  to  the  archives  and  you 

0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.950
<v Juan Uro>see  some  of  the  photos  in  the  village  in  2004 

0:15:05.340 --> 0:15:08.910
<v Juan Uro>I  was  frozen,  I  didn't  know  about  wearing  layers.  My 

0:15:08.910 --> 0:15:13.140
<v Juan Uro>running  shoes  were  all  tennis  shoes,  I  couldn't  afford,  honestly, 

0:15:13.140 --> 0:15:19.800
<v Juan Uro>we  were  students  and  living  on  very  basic  means.
 But 

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<v Juan Uro>I  did  it.  And  I  had  an  amazing  time,  not 

0:15:22.740 --> 0:15:26.400
<v Juan Uro>in  terms  of  clock  time  but  in  terms  of  fulfilling 

0:15:26.460 --> 0:15:31.200
<v Juan Uro>a  personal  goal.  And  as  you  know  once  you  run 

0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.410
<v Juan Uro>a  marathon  some  people  are  very  happy,  some  people  say, "

0:15:35.010 --> 0:15:39.570
<v Juan Uro>I  could  have  done  a  little  bit  better,"  so  tried 

0:15:39.570 --> 0:15:43.530
<v Juan Uro>the  lottery  many  times.  I  think  after  three  times  of 

0:15:43.530 --> 0:15:47.160
<v Juan Uro>declining  there  was a little bit of  the  policy  of  getting  there  in  four 

0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:51.540
<v Juan Uro>years  so  in  2008  I  did  the  marathon  again.  But 

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<v Juan Uro>that  second  phase  overall,  Rob  it  was  casual  30  miles 

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<v Juan Uro>per  week  and  as  I  said  more  as  a  way 

0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:05.280
<v Juan Uro>to  relieve  stress  from  work  and  as a way  to  have  work-

0:16:07.290 --> 0:16:13.830
<v Juan Uro>life  balance  and  good  sense  of  accomplishing  something.  So,  a 

0:16:13.830 --> 0:16:17.970
<v Juan Uro>little  bit  more  of  a  mind  and  a  spiritual  wellbeing.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah.  And  your  time  in  New  York  one  ended  up 

0:16:22.410 --> 0:16:26.040
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>not  just  being  a  short  time,  you  stayed  in  New 

0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.670
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  quite  a  while  and  obviously  you  ended  up  in 

0:16:29.670 --> 0:16:31.920
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  third  phase  of  running,  which  is  the  one  I 

0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:33.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>think  in  which  we  currently  find  you  as  a  really 

0:16:33.810 --> 0:16:38.040
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>serious  runner. And  I  know  part  of  that  relates  to  some 

0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:42.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>tragic  things  that  happened  in  your  life  with  your  son 

0:16:42.780 --> 0:16:45.300
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Bautista  and  losing  him.

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<v Juan Uro>Yeah,  so  you are  spot  on.  I  think  the  third  maybe 

0:16:52.380 --> 0:16:56.940
<v Juan Uro>I'm  still  in  that  phase  of  running  was  we  were 

0:16:56.940 --> 0:17:03.840
<v Juan Uro>blessed  with a  son  Bautista,  we  call  him  Bauti  in  2004. 

0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.000
<v Juan Uro>And  that's  also  the  reason  why I  was  only  running  20, 30 

0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:14.130
<v Juan Uro>miles,  you  have  a  kid,  you  have  work  responsibilities  but 

0:17:14.130 --> 0:17:17.189
<v Juan Uro>it  was  still  part  of  my  life.  But  in  2010, 

0:17:18.270 --> 0:17:23.550
<v Juan Uro>Bauti  passed  away  when  he  was  six  years  old.  And he was our 

0:17:24.030 --> 0:17:27.359
<v Juan Uro>only  child,  he  was  the  focus  of  our  entire  lives 

0:17:27.930 --> 0:17:32.970
<v Juan Uro>so  it  was  truly,  truly  devastating  for  both  my  wife 

0:17:32.970 --> 0:17:37.619
<v Juan Uro>and  for  me.  We  each  cope  in  a  different  way, 

0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.859
<v Juan Uro>we  all  grieve  in  a  different  way,  but  for  me 

0:17:40.859 --> 0:17:44.700
<v Juan Uro>it  was  honestly  very  difficult  to  get  off  bed  and 

0:17:44.700 --> 0:17:50.490
<v Juan Uro>keep  living.  So,  in  running  I  found  almost  an  excuse, 

0:17:51.090 --> 0:17:54.270
<v Juan Uro>a  reason  at  least  almost  every  morning  to  get  off 

0:17:54.720 --> 0:18:01.109
<v Juan Uro>bed  and  move  forward.  I  heard  once  life is  a  little 

0:18:01.109 --> 0:18:04.380
<v Juan Uro>bit  of  like  riding  a  bicycle,  to  stay  on  balance 

0:18:04.380 --> 0:18:08.699
<v Juan Uro>you  just  need  to  move  forward.
 And  even  in  the 

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<v Juan Uro>darkest  days  honestly  Rob,  lacing  my  shoes,  getting  outside  even 

0:18:14.850 --> 0:18:18.690
<v Juan Uro>for  a  couple  of  miles  was  helping  me  find  the 

0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.530
<v Juan Uro>motivation  to  stay  alive.  So,  from  that  moment  on  became 

0:18:22.530 --> 0:18:29.190
<v Juan Uro>a  little  bit  of  a  habit,  a  spiritual  habit  of 

0:18:30.330 --> 0:18:35.790
<v Juan Uro>making  me  continue  living  and  trying  to pursue a  good  life,  a 

0:18:35.790 --> 0:18:39.450
<v Juan Uro>worthy  life.  I  always  go  back  to  this  point  of 

0:18:39.450 --> 0:18:43.889
<v Juan Uro>connecting  with Bauti  through  my  running  but  I  always  go  back 

0:18:43.890 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Juan Uro>when  I'm  in  tough  situations  of  saying, " I  need  to 

0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.730
<v Juan Uro>live  a  life  that  is  worth  his  memory  and  his 

0:18:50.730 --> 0:18:55.230
<v Juan Uro>honor."  And  I  think  part  of  running  has  been  of 

0:18:55.230 --> 0:19:01.950
<v Juan Uro>that,  of  finding  a  healthy  life,  physical  balance  but  also 

0:19:01.950 --> 0:19:13.320
<v Juan Uro>mental  balance.  And  a  couple  of  folks  were  able  to 

0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.980
<v Juan Uro>gave  me  a  spot  in  the  2010  New  Year  Marathon, 

0:19:17.460 --> 0:19:22.230
<v Juan Uro>our  common  friend,  Mary  Wittenberg  was  very  gracious  of  not 

0:19:22.230 --> 0:19:25.440
<v Juan Uro>knowing  me  understanding  the  story  and  she  gave  me  a 

0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:31.560
<v Juan Uro>spot.
 And  that's  the  first  run  that  I  did  with 

0:19:32.460 --> 0:19:39.270
<v Juan Uro>his  name  and  his  image  on  his  face,  not  seeking 

0:19:39.270 --> 0:19:42.629
<v Juan Uro>anything,  purely  feeling  like  he  was  going  to  be  along 

0:19:42.630 --> 0:19:47.429
<v Juan Uro>with  me  on  that  run.  And  the  amount  of  cheering 

0:19:47.430 --> 0:19:53.879
<v Juan Uro>that  it  was  along  the  way  of, "Go  Bauti,"  made  me 

0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.300
<v Juan Uro>realize  this  is  much  more  than  just  having  him  in 

0:19:57.300 --> 0:20:02.340
<v Juan Uro>my  chest  for  my  own  benefit  like  listening,  and  many 

0:20:02.340 --> 0:20:05.640
<v Juan Uro>people  will  never  hear  his  story  but  even  seeing  his 

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:11.010
<v Juan Uro>face  and  naming  his  name.  The  majority  of  the  parents 

0:20:11.220 --> 0:20:13.830
<v Juan Uro>they  have  very  proud  moments  throughout  every  day  or  every 

0:20:13.830 --> 0:20:16.710
<v Juan Uro>week,  and  to  me  that  continues  to  be  one  of 

0:20:16.710 --> 0:20:21.900
<v Juan Uro>my  proud  moments  of  people  cheering  him  and  finding  that 

0:20:21.900 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Juan Uro>connection.  So,  that  first  race  was  very  special.  I  think 

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.500
<v Juan Uro>I  truly  burst  in  tears  when  I  crossed  that  finish 

0:20:28.500 --> 0:20:34.740
<v Juan Uro>line  versus  in  2004 it was just a marathon and  this  was  a  signal  for  life.
And 

0:20:35.070 --> 0:20:39.180
<v Juan Uro>from  that  moment  on  almost  every  marathon  I  run  with 

0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:44.310
<v Juan Uro>the  same  shirt.  Of  course  it's  getting  pretty  washed  out 

0:20:44.310 --> 0:20:46.409
<v Juan Uro>already  so  I  think  we  need  to  find  a  new 

0:20:46.409 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Juan Uro>one.  But  it  became  a  signal  and  a  way  to 

0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.260
<v Juan Uro>connect  with  him  through  those  moments.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  must  be  incredible  for  you  to  hear  that,  to 

0:20:57.869 --> 0:21:02.010
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>experience  that  while  you're  running  a  marathon.  I  have  never 

0:21:02.010 --> 0:21:05.790
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>lived  through  what  you  and  your  wife  have  lived  through, 

0:21:05.790 --> 0:21:10.260
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  can  only  imagine  what  that's  like.  But  to  hear 

0:21:10.260 --> 0:21:14.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>those  cheers  for  him,  it  must  make  you  feel  for 

0:21:14.310 --> 0:21:17.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  moment  that  he's  there,  that  he  is  alive,  that 

0:21:17.250 --> 0:21:21.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>he's  with  you.  And  you  talked  about  having  him  with 

0:21:21.810 --> 0:21:26.699
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  in  this  World  Marathon  Challenge  as  well  and  the 

0:21:26.700 --> 0:21:30.090
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>challenge  that  you  took,  you  spoke  about  feeling  like  he 

0:21:30.090 --> 0:21:32.730
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  there  running  those  races  with  you.

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<v Juan Uro>Yeah,  I'll  tell  you,  I  know  when  I'm  in  pain 

0:21:39.030 --> 0:21:43.290
<v Juan Uro>in  a  marathon,  I  feel  it's  nothing  compared  to  the 

0:21:43.290 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Juan Uro>pain  that  he  endured  during  the  last  moment  in  his 

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Juan Uro>life.  It's  pretty  sad  to  say  it  but  breaks  me 

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.130
<v Juan Uro>a  little  bit  of  again,  honoring  him.  He  went  through 

0:21:56.130 --> 0:22:00.660
<v Juan Uro>a  lot  and  it  may  sound  dark  but  I  don't 

0:22:00.660 --> 0:22:05.430
<v Juan Uro>mind  going  through  the  same  and  feeling  that  connection.  When 

0:22:05.430 --> 0:22:11.100
<v Juan Uro>I  have  no  more  energy  in a marathon,  here  comes  Go  Bauti at 

0:22:11.340 --> 0:22:14.700
<v Juan Uro>the  right  time  and  it's  almost  like  maybe  his  way 

0:22:15.450 --> 0:22:18.570
<v Juan Uro>of  giving  me  energy.  I'll  tell  you  that  I  have 

0:22:18.570 --> 0:22:22.920
<v Juan Uro>two  low  points  in the  seven  marathons  in  the  seven  continents 

0:22:23.940 --> 0:22:28.020
<v Juan Uro>and  you  will  find  how  strange  life  is  but  the 

0:22:28.020 --> 0:22:32.850
<v Juan Uro>first  one  was  in  Dubai.  And  in  many  cases  when 

0:22:32.850 --> 0:22:34.439
<v Juan Uro>I'm  a  little  bit  lost,  I  play  a  little  bit 

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.740
<v Juan Uro>of  an  exercise  of  asking  him  for  some  advice.
 And 

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.920
<v Juan Uro>I  pick  the  first  word  that  I  see  in  my 

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:42.780
<v Juan Uro>eyes  and  I  pick  the  first  letter  to  see  if 

0:22:42.780 --> 0:22:45.330
<v Juan Uro>he's  going  to  send  me  a  message.  And  then  I 

0:22:45.330 --> 0:22:48.690
<v Juan Uro>pick  the  second  word  and  I try  to  find  almost  like 

0:22:48.690 --> 0:22:53.220
<v Juan Uro>a  sentence  or  at  least  a  couple  of  words  by 

0:22:53.220 --> 0:22:57.570
<v Juan Uro>forming  the  first  letter.  Usually  nothing  is  set,  it's  random 

0:22:57.570 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Juan Uro>letter  so  to  speak.  But  here  was in  the  middle  of 

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:07.050
<v Juan Uro>Dubai  and  the  five  letters  was  G- O- D- A-

0:23:07.050 --> 0:23:11.550
<v Juan Uro>D,  go  Dad.  So,  what's  part  of  me  I'm  saying 

0:23:11.850 --> 0:23:14.970
<v Juan Uro>it  cannot  be  as  random  as  that,  it's  a  little 

0:23:14.970 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Juan Uro>bit  of  his  way  to  stay  spiritually  with  me.  So 

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:24.090
<v Juan Uro>again,  maybe  it's  serendipity  and  lucky,  but  I  like  to 

0:23:24.090 --> 0:23:27.750
<v Juan Uro>think  and  I  have  no  problem  of  thinking  that  there may be 

0:23:28.500 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Juan Uro>other  ways  that  he's  still  with  me  giving  me  energy 

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:32.550
<v Juan Uro>and  force.

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  no,  I  like  to  think  that  too.  I  think 

0:23:36.690 --> 0:23:40.619
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>so.  When  I  first  heard  that  you  were  doing  this 

0:23:40.619 --> 0:23:45.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>World  Marathon  Challenge  for  some  reason  I  wasn't  that  surprised 

0:23:45.780 --> 0:23:50.879
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>because  I  know  how  you  run.  I  mean,  you  definitely 

0:23:51.510 --> 0:23:54.689
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  number  one  on  the  New  York  Road  Runners  board 

0:23:54.690 --> 0:23:58.139
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  think  in  terms  of  weekly  mileage.  I  see  you 

0:23:58.140 --> 0:24:03.210
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  the  park,  I  see  your  marathon  finishes.  I  think 

0:24:03.510 --> 0:24:07.230
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>since  I've  been  here,  I  think  you've  done  minimum  two, 

0:24:07.260 --> 0:24:11.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>maybe  three  marathons  a  year.  You've  had  these  short  turnaround 

0:24:11.310 --> 0:24:14.910
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>marathons  like  the  Boston  to  London  turn  or  you  just 

0:24:14.910 --> 0:24:18.510
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>mentioned  New  York  to  Philadelphia,  so  it  was  clearly  in 

0:24:18.510 --> 0:24:22.470
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  legs  the  mileage  that  you  needed.  So,  talk  about 

0:24:22.470 --> 0:24:26.220
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>showing  up  for  the  first  one that was Antarctica  I  assume,  right,  the 

0:24:26.220 --> 0:24:28.230
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>similar  challenge  to  what Becs  did?

0:24:28.410 --> 0:24:28.530
<v Juan Uro>Yep.

0:24:28.770 --> 0:24:32.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Showing  up  at  that  first  one,  how  did  you  feel? 

0:24:32.250 --> 0:24:36.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Did  you  feel  that  you  had  it  in  you  confident 

0:24:36.780 --> 0:24:39.510
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>given  the  short  notice  of  five  weeks  that  you  had 

0:24:39.510 --> 0:24:41.400
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  would  love  to  hear  you  kind  of  take  us 

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:43.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>through  the  journey  over  those  seven  days?

0:24:44.550 --> 0:24:51.570
<v Juan Uro>Yeah,  I  felt  a  little  bit  unprepared  but  I  don't 

0:24:51.570 --> 0:24:55.500
<v Juan Uro>think  necessarily  it's  a  fair  comment.  In  fact,  even  when 

0:24:55.500 --> 0:24:59.070
<v Juan Uro>I  got  the  five- week  notice,  if  I would  have  had  five-

0:24:59.070 --> 0:25:01.710
<v Juan Uro>month  notice,  my  preparation  would  have  been  exactly  the  same 

0:25:01.710 --> 0:25:06.090
<v Juan Uro>because  I  literally  ran  that  year  up  to  again,  Thanksgiving 

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.210
<v Juan Uro>and  I  was  going  to,  I  promised  my  wife, " We 

0:25:09.210 --> 0:25:12.149
<v Juan Uro>arrive  to  Argentina,  we  will  eat  a  lot  of  steaks, 

0:25:12.150 --> 0:25:14.460
<v Juan Uro>we'll  have  a  lot  of  ice  cream  and  a  couple 

0:25:14.460 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Juan Uro>of  good  wines."  And  here  we  arrive  and  nothing  was 

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:24.540
<v Juan Uro>fulfilled  because  I  ended  up  being  pretty  healthy.  But  I 

0:25:24.540 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Juan Uro>knew  I  was  prepared  enough.  But  the  week  before  I 

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.859
<v Juan Uro>had  two  doubts.  First  is  what  time  I  could  really 

0:25:34.859 --> 0:25:38.790
<v Juan Uro>make.  Lately  I  have  been,  I  don't  know,  three  hours 

0:25:38.790 --> 0:25:41.640
<v Juan Uro>and  30- minute  marathon  and  I  thought  I  was  going 

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:46.859
<v Juan Uro>to  be  at  best  for  30 in each.
 And  the  second  one 

0:25:47.460 --> 0:25:52.619
<v Juan Uro>while  I  put  130  miles in two  or  three  weeks  and  basically 

0:25:52.619 --> 0:25:58.109
<v Juan Uro>the  totality  of  seven  marathons  is  180  miles  or  whatever 

0:25:58.109 --> 0:26:00.750
<v Juan Uro>the  math  is,  call  it  180,  let's  give  or  take. 

0:26:03.210 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Juan Uro>I  still  was  into  the  unknown  so  I  didn't  know 

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.450
<v Juan Uro>what  to  expect  from  that  point  of  view  and  whether 

0:26:09.450 --> 0:26:14.310
<v Juan Uro>the  body  will  be  resilient  enough  for  the  last  few 

0:26:15.570 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Juan Uro>marathons.  So,  I  literally  tried  to  approach  it  off  from 

0:26:20.070 --> 0:26:24.060
<v Juan Uro>conservative  to  more  risk- taker.  And  Antarctica  being  the  first 

0:26:24.060 --> 0:26:28.260
<v Juan Uro>one  I  said, " Whatever  time,  it  doesn't  matter,  just  go 

0:26:28.260 --> 0:26:32.580
<v Juan Uro>and  have  fun."  And  in  fact,  it  was  10  loops 

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:40.949
<v Juan Uro>of  2. 6  kilometers  and  I  broke  it  into  three 

0:26:40.950 --> 0:26:44.490
<v Juan Uro>loops.  And  the  last  one  was  the  victory  lap,  so 

0:26:44.490 --> 0:26:48.449
<v Juan Uro>to  speak.  So,  the  first  third  was  okay,  the  second 

0:26:48.450 --> 0:26:51.090
<v Juan Uro>one  it  was  enjoying  the  sightseeing  and  the  third  one, 

0:26:51.090 --> 0:26:55.859
<v Juan Uro>I  was  literally  thinking, " This  is  most  likely  the  last 

0:26:55.859 --> 0:26:59.010
<v Juan Uro>time  that  I  will  ever  be  in  this  continent  so 

0:26:59.010 --> 0:27:04.770
<v Juan Uro>just  enjoy  it."
 And  from  that  point  of  view,  I 

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:10.859
<v Juan Uro>ended  up  four  hour  and  15  or  16,  slow  but 

0:27:10.859 --> 0:27:14.850
<v Juan Uro>I  didn't  care,  literally  I  had  an  amazing  time.  Again, 

0:27:14.850 --> 0:27:20.580
<v Juan Uro>not  from  a  clock  perspective,  what  a  rewarding  experience.  So 

0:27:20.580 --> 0:27:23.670
<v Juan Uro>many  people  may  be  dreaming  of  at  some  point  going 

0:27:23.670 --> 0:27:27.540
<v Juan Uro>to Antarctica,  a  few  may  have  the  opportunity  and  even  fewer 

0:27:27.540 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Juan Uro>may  actually  realize  that  chance,  and  for  me  to  run even a marathon, 

0:27:33.510 --> 0:27:38.369
<v Juan Uro>which  I  love,  what  an  amazing  moment.  So,  it  was 

0:27:39.330 --> 0:27:42.149
<v Juan Uro>okay  from  a  time  perspective,  the  time  of  my  life 

0:27:42.150 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Juan Uro>from  being  there  and  from  that  moment  it  started  to 

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.570
<v Juan Uro>move  into  a  little  bit  better  times  up to  the  point 

0:27:51.570 --> 0:27:56.850
<v Juan Uro>in  Dubai.  So,  that's  a  little  bit  of  the  preparation 

0:27:56.850 --> 0:27:59.250
<v Juan Uro>and  call  it  the first  Antarctica  time.

0:28:00.420 --> 0:28:04.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So,  take  me  through  the  end,  take  me  through,  and 

0:28:04.950 --> 0:28:07.020
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  me  the  travel  is  always  the  thing  that  I 

0:28:07.020 --> 0:28:11.399
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  can't  fathom  how  people  are  able  to  do  this 

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  run  these  marathons,  take  these  flights,  get  back,  recover 

0:28:15.450 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>from  them,  do  it  again.  I  just  don't  know  how 

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  body  can  withstand  that  combination  of  things.  Which  was 

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  hardest  one  for  you,  Dubai,  was  that  your  low  point?

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.830
<v Juan Uro>That  was  the  first  low  point  because  Dubai  was  marathon 

0:28:34.830 --> 0:28:42.570
<v Juan Uro>number  four  and  literally  from  Antarctica  we  went  to  Cape 

0:28:42.570 --> 0:28:45.420
<v Juan Uro>Town,  that  was  marathon  number  two,  but  nobody  was  able 

0:28:45.420 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Juan Uro>to  sleep almost  in  that  flight.  So,  most  people  ended  up 

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:53.130
<v Juan Uro>with  two  marathons in call it  36  hours  with  no  sleep  in  between. 

0:28:53.550 --> 0:28:56.010
<v Juan Uro>But  then  we  went  to  Australia,  we  slept  a  lot 

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.610
<v Juan Uro>and  then  back  to  Middle  East and Dubai  and  people  slept  a 

0:28:59.610 --> 0:29:04.110
<v Juan Uro>lot.  But  I  was  placing  myself  pretty  nice  until  I 

0:29:04.110 --> 0:29:07.500
<v Juan Uro>did  a  mistake  in  the  course,  get  pretty  upset  with 

0:29:07.500 --> 0:29:10.890
<v Juan Uro>myself,  came  back,  lost  a  little  bit  with  the  group 

0:29:10.890 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Juan Uro>that  I  was  running.  And  then,  I  felt  a  little 

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Juan Uro>bit  depleted,  not  physically  but  I  was  not  eating  well 

0:29:18.030 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Juan Uro>between  the  marathons.
 So,  the  body  really  realized  at  that 

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:28.110
<v Juan Uro>point  that  I  wasn't  having  fuel  enough.  And  even  mentally 

0:29:28.110 --> 0:29:31.140
<v Juan Uro>it  was  like, " Holy  cow,  I  have  done  already  three 

0:29:31.140 --> 0:29:35.820
<v Juan Uro>marathons,  but  I'm  just  half  of  the  full  journey."  So, 

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.810
<v Juan Uro>if  I  feel  tired,  I  just  literally  only  have  done 

0:29:39.810 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Juan Uro>half of  what  I'm  supposed  to  do.  So,  I  think  between 

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:46.410
<v Juan Uro>that  mental  aspect,  the  lack  of  food,  it  wasn't  lack 

0:29:46.410 --> 0:29:49.380
<v Juan Uro>of  sleep  on  that  one,  it  brought  me  down  in 

0:29:49.380 --> 0:29:52.380
<v Juan Uro>the  last  couple  of  loops.  I  ended  up  being  four 

0:29:52.380 --> 0:29:54.331
<v Juan Uro>hours  or  four  hours  and  one  minute,  so  it  wasn't-

0:29:54.331 --> 0:29:54.332
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>4:02, 4:02 pretty good. Yeah.

0:29:54.332 --> 0:30:01.410
<v Juan Uro>Yeah, but  I  was  pacing  at 3: 50,  but  the  real  toughest 

0:30:01.410 --> 0:30:06.270
<v Juan Uro>time  was  marathon  six  in  Brazil,  we  were  at  90 

0:30:06.270 --> 0:30:11.310
<v Juan Uro>or  95  degrees,  it  was  four  loops.  And  the  third 

0:30:11.310 --> 0:30:13.980
<v Juan Uro>loop,  I  was  feeling  pretty  good  until  I  didn't  have 

0:30:13.980 --> 0:30:17.970
<v Juan Uro>it  anymore,  I  was  overheated.  I  literally  called  my  wife, 

0:30:17.970 --> 0:30:21.150
<v Juan Uro>it  was  five  o'clock  Brazil  time,  seven  o'clock  I  think 

0:30:21.150 --> 0:30:24.150
<v Juan Uro>New  York  or  something  or  the  other  way  around.  I 

0:30:24.150 --> 0:30:26.790
<v Juan Uro>called  her  pretty  early  and  I  said, " I'm  done."  And 

0:30:26.790 --> 0:30:33.300
<v Juan Uro>she  was like, "What do you mean you are done? You are going  to  finish  this  thing."  She's  an  amazing  in 

0:30:33.300 --> 0:30:36.930
<v Juan Uro>terms  of  giving  me  corrections  and  support  when  I  need 

0:30:36.930 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Juan Uro>it.  And I  was  like, " Yeah,  no,  I'm  going  to  walk 

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.970
<v Juan Uro>at  least,"  but  it  was  the  first  time  that  I 

0:30:42.090 --> 0:30:48.450
<v Juan Uro>couldn't  really  even  jog  like  I  was  toasted.
 And  one 

0:30:48.450 --> 0:30:51.540
<v Juan Uro>of  the  doctors,  we  have  two  doctors  through  the  journey, 

0:30:51.540 --> 0:30:55.110
<v Juan Uro>and  for  some  reason  they  ended  up  connecting  with  me and 

0:30:55.260 --> 0:30:57.330
<v Juan Uro>a  couple  of  other  folks  that  we  run together  so  they 

0:30:57.330 --> 0:31:00.660
<v Juan Uro>were  always  doing  at  least  one  loop  with  us.  So, 

0:31:00.660 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Juan Uro>one  of  these  doctors  from  Boston,  he  saw  me  in 

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:08.850
<v Juan Uro>one  of  the  mid- points  and  he  said, " Let's  do 

0:31:08.850 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Juan Uro>it,  let's  go."  He  carried  me  a  little  bit  in 

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:16.230
<v Juan Uro>the  last  loop  but  as  I  said,  I  was  totally, 

0:31:16.290 --> 0:31:23.580
<v Juan Uro>totally  exhausted,  depleted,  emotionally,  physically,  I  couldn't  have  any  more 

0:31:23.580 --> 0:31:26.430
<v Juan Uro>of  energy  to do that  one.

0:31:27.390 --> 0:31:31.620
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  it  seems  like  that  South  American  one  can  be 

0:31:31.620 --> 0:31:33.660
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>tough  for  a  lot  of  people.  You  were  in  Brazil, 

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:37.260
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Becs  did  hers  in  Columbia  also  on  a  very  hot 

0:31:37.260 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>day.  And  we  all  know  heat  is  difficult  to  deal 

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.970
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>with  when  you're  running  marathons  at  all,  when  you're  running 

0:31:44.970 --> 0:31:48.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  sixth  marathon  in  six  days,  I  just  cannot  even 

0:31:48.570 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>fathom.  But  you  bounced  back  nicely  for  the  final  leg 

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  the  United  States.  Was  that  Miami?

0:31:55.020 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Juan Uro>That  was  Miami,  yeah.

0:31:56.310 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah.

0:31:57.690 --> 0:31:57.751
<v Juan Uro>We  started at-

0:31:57.751 --> 0:31:58.860
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>4:14,  pretty  good.

0:31:59.430 --> 0:32:01.350
<v Juan Uro>One  o'clock  in  the  morning  or  something  like  that  it 

0:32:01.350 --> 0:32:04.740
<v Juan Uro>was  supposed  to be  six  o'clock  or  seven  in  the  morning. 

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.460
<v Juan Uro>That's  the  thing  is  we  ended  up  being  so  ahead 

0:32:08.460 --> 0:32:12.510
<v Juan Uro>of  schedule  that  I  think  the  person  that  was  the 

0:32:12.510 --> 0:32:18.570
<v Juan Uro>fastest,  Tomomi,  a  Japanese  runner,  I  think  she  crushed  the 

0:32:18.570 --> 0:32:21.300
<v Juan Uro>world  record  if  I'm  not  mistaken  of  from  the  first 

0:32:21.300 --> 0:32:23.670
<v Juan Uro>marathon  to  the  last  one,  she  ended  up  in  five 

0:32:23.670 --> 0:32:27.300
<v Juan Uro>days  and  19  hours.  So,  for  me  being  one  hour 

0:32:27.300 --> 0:32:29.850
<v Juan Uro>slower,  I  did  five  days  and  20  hours,  but  literally 

0:32:30.810 --> 0:32:33.660
<v Juan Uro>we  save  one  full  day.  And  I  could  tell  you 

0:32:33.660 --> 0:32:37.380
<v Juan Uro>I could  have  had  a  couple  of  nice  dinners  and  sleep 

0:32:37.380 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Juan Uro>a  couple  more  hours  in  those.
 But  yeah,  we  started 

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.430
<v Juan Uro>midnight  or  something  like  that  and  by  four  or  five 

0:32:44.430 --> 0:32:47.220
<v Juan Uro>o'clock  in  the  morning  I  finished,  called  my  wife  and  said, "

0:32:47.220 --> 0:32:49.770
<v Juan Uro>I  just  booked  a  flight,  I  should  be  there  in 

0:32:49.770 --> 0:32:53.670
<v Juan Uro>five  hours."  There  was a little bit  of  a  reunion  and  a  little 

0:32:53.670 --> 0:32:56.250
<v Juan Uro>bit  of  celebration  and  I  had  an  amazing  time  with 

0:32:56.250 --> 0:32:59.910
<v Juan Uro>many  runners.  But  after  10  days,  I  was  missing  the 

0:32:59.910 --> 0:33:03.030
<v Juan Uro>family  so  much  that  jumped  on  the  first  flight  back 

0:33:03.030 --> 0:33:07.140
<v Juan Uro>to  New  York  and  I  was  midday back in the  city.

0:33:08.250 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So,  what  have  you  learned  from  doing  this?  What  did 

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  learn  as  a  runner,  Juan  in  terms  of  you 

0:33:14.310 --> 0:33:18.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  a  runner  and  what  you  can  do  and  what 

0:33:18.450 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  want  to  accomplish  in  your  running  life?  And  then 

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.460
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>more  importantly,  what  have  you  learned  as  a  human  from 

0:33:23.460 --> 0:33:24.210
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>taking  this  on?

0:33:25.890 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Juan Uro>Yeah,  I'll  start  with  the  human  one  and  at  work, 

0:33:31.830 --> 0:33:35.370
<v Juan Uro>many  people that  work  with  me,  I  always  said  nothing  is 

0:33:35.370 --> 0:33:37.410
<v Juan Uro>impossible.  And  I  know  it  sounds  like  a  little  bit 

0:33:37.410 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Juan Uro>of  a  cliche  but  the  reality  is  there's  very  little 

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:49.710
<v Juan Uro>things  that  are  truly,  truly  impossible.  I  think  encountering  a 

0:33:49.710 --> 0:33:52.500
<v Juan Uro>challenge  like  this  the  first  thing  will  be, " Yeah,  it's 

0:33:52.500 --> 0:33:54.990
<v Juan Uro>impossible."  And  as  I  said,  when  I  saw  it  in 

0:33:54.990 --> 0:33:58.470
<v Juan Uro>the  Expo it  was  like, " Ah,  interesting  idea,  I  don't  think 

0:33:58.470 --> 0:34:02.730
<v Juan Uro>I  can  do  it."  But  then,  it  may  be  lingering 

0:34:03.390 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Juan Uro>in  your  mind  and  then  you  start  thinking  about  it 

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Juan Uro>and  become  a  little  bit  less  impossible  and  eventually  a 

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.980
<v Juan Uro>little  bit  less  impossible.  So,  point  being,  if  you  put 

0:34:14.700 --> 0:34:20.130
<v Juan Uro>your  heart,  if  you  put  your  mind,  if  you put  your 

0:34:20.130 --> 0:34:25.890
<v Juan Uro>dedication,  it's  unbelievable  how  much  you can  accomplish  professionally  or  personally, 

0:34:25.890 --> 0:34:29.549
<v Juan Uro>whether  it's  in a  sport,  in  endurance  or  whether  it's  in 

0:34:30.090 --> 0:34:35.580
<v Juan Uro>any  capacity  that  you  want  to do.
And  the  second  thing  I 

0:34:35.580 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Juan Uro>would  say  even  from  that  learning  is  even  if  you 

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:43.260
<v Juan Uro>don't  accomplish  it,  I  think  you  come  up  as  a 

0:34:44.910 --> 0:34:49.650
<v Juan Uro>better  person  or  at  least  with  personal  growth.  And  that's 

0:34:49.650 --> 0:34:56.610
<v Juan Uro>the  whole  point  of  any  of  these  attempts  like  many 

0:34:56.610 --> 0:34:59.700
<v Juan Uro>people  are  putting  a  lot  of  emphasis  on  where  they 

0:34:59.700 --> 0:35:02.609
<v Juan Uro>can  achieve  something  or  not,  but  I  would  say  that 

0:35:02.609 --> 0:35:06.030
<v Juan Uro>the  pursuit  of  excellence  or  the  pursuit  of  something  extraordinary 

0:35:06.030 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Juan Uro>sometimes  can  be  much  more  rewarding  than  the  achievement  of 

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:17.130
<v Juan Uro>something  extraordinary.  So,  that  to  me  is  the  lesson  almost 

0:35:17.130 --> 0:35:28.980
<v Juan Uro>at  the  personal level.  In  terms  of  running,  I don't know,  I  don't 

0:35:28.980 --> 0:35:33.930
<v Juan Uro>have  goals  on  running.  For  example,  I  don't  count  the 

0:35:33.930 --> 0:35:37.770
<v Juan Uro>number  of  marathons  that I  have  done  incredibly  enough,  literally  I 

0:35:37.770 --> 0:35:38.490
<v Juan Uro>don't  know  how  many  I have.

0:35:38.489 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  was  going  to  ask  you  because  it's  got  to 

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.110
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>be  up  there.  I  mean,  I  was  wondering  if  you 

0:35:43.110 --> 0:35:44.489
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>had  that  count,  but  you  don't  even  know.

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Juan Uro>No,  I  always  say  I answer  in  Spanish  and  I  say 

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:54.509
<v Juan Uro>cincuenta  and  cincuenta  means  50  but  also  means  sin  cuenta, 

0:35:54.510 --> 0:35:57.930
<v Juan Uro>without  counting.  So,  it's  kind  of  a  funny  way  to 

0:35:57.930 --> 0:36:00.690
<v Juan Uro>answer  that.  I  know it's  more  than  50,  I  know  it's 

0:36:00.690 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Juan Uro>less  than  100.  At  some  point  probably  I  will  be 

0:36:04.590 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Juan Uro>doing  the  clinical  analysis  to  see  if  I  ever  dare 

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:11.670
<v Juan Uro>to do  100,  but  it's  not  part  of  necessarily  a  challenge 

0:36:11.670 --> 0:36:17.940
<v Juan Uro>that  I  need  to  set  for  myself.  But  as  I 

0:36:17.940 --> 0:36:20.969
<v Juan Uro>said,  look,  I  think  the  thing  that  I  have  learned 

0:36:21.300 --> 0:36:29.609
<v Juan Uro>is  no  matter  the  weather,  no  matter  the  conditions,  when 

0:36:29.610 --> 0:36:32.280
<v Juan Uro>you  put  the  mind  into  it  and  when  you  put 

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:36.330
<v Juan Uro>the  heart  into  it,  literally  I  was  finishing  marathons and I was  like 

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.390
<v Juan Uro>I  couldn't  move.  I  looked  like  the  Mummy,  like  I 

0:36:39.390 --> 0:36:43.710
<v Juan Uro>was  walking  so  funny.

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:43.831
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>(inaudible)   Yeah.

0:36:43.830 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Juan Uro>Yeah,  exactly,  exactly.  And  then,  you  jump  on  the  plane 

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Juan Uro>and  you  have  the  compression  socks  and  you  may  start 

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Juan Uro>feeling  a  little  bit  better.  And  then,  you  arrive  to 

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.859
<v Juan Uro>immigrations  and  you  can  walk  a  little  bit  better  and 

0:36:55.860 --> 0:36:58.350
<v Juan Uro>then  you  get  to  the  starting  line  and  you  start 

0:36:58.350 --> 0:37:03.180
<v Juan Uro>running.  And  it's  incredible  how  16  hours  before  you  said, 

0:37:03.630 --> 0:37:06.510
<v Juan Uro>my  body  cannot  take  it  anymore  but  again,  the  spirit. 

0:37:07.110 --> 0:37:10.860
<v Juan Uro>So,  going  back  to  dark  times  in  a  race  or 

0:37:10.860 --> 0:37:16.979
<v Juan Uro>in  a  marathon,  you  may  be  suffering  but  you  can 

0:37:16.979 --> 0:37:21.420
<v Juan Uro>still  do  it  so  that's  the  learning.

0:37:22.380 --> 0:37:28.710
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  Father's  Day  week  and  it's  so  great  to  say 

0:37:28.710 --> 0:37:33.270
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  you're  a  father  again,  you  have  a  daughter,  Isabella. 

0:37:34.710 --> 0:37:41.070
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Talk  about  your  role  as  a  father  now,  the  role 

0:37:41.070 --> 0:37:44.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  running  plays  even  with  your  family.  I  don't  know 

0:37:44.100 --> 0:37:46.380
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>how  big  your  wife,  your  daughter,  and  I  know  you've 

0:37:46.380 --> 0:37:50.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>run  maybe  some  5Ks  together,  what  does  it  mean  to 

0:37:50.250 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  just  to  have  that  opportunity  to  A,  run  with 

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:59.850
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>her,  but  also  set  the  example  that  you  set  for 

0:37:59.850 --> 0:38:01.410
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>her  in  running  these  races?

0:38:02.489 --> 0:38:10.739
<v Juan Uro>Yeah,  I  think  she's  proud,  I  haven't  done  this  to 

0:38:10.739 --> 0:38:14.100
<v Juan Uro>make  her  proud  per  se.  Running  is  in  a  way 

0:38:14.100 --> 0:38:17.460
<v Juan Uro>selfish  to  me  and  I  go  back  to  if  I 

0:38:17.460 --> 0:38:20.190
<v Juan Uro>dedicated  this  to  my  son.  But  interesting,  I  think  it 

0:38:20.190 --> 0:38:23.190
<v Juan Uro>was  a  few  years  ago  that  she  came  to  me 

0:38:23.190 --> 0:38:26.430
<v Juan Uro>and  literally  asked  me  the  question, " Why do  you  always  run 

0:38:26.430 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Juan Uro>with  Bauti's  picture,  why  you  are  not  having  my  picture?" 

0:38:31.590 --> 0:38:36.989
<v Juan Uro>And  it  was  an  interesting  question,  literally  should  I  have 

0:38:36.989 --> 0:38:38.939
<v Juan Uro>a  little  bit  of  her  picture?  And  I  said, " Well, 

0:38:39.810 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Juan Uro>because  I  can  run  with  you  and  I  wish  we would 

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Juan Uro>have  a  chance  to  run."  And  I  think  that  get 

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.820
<v Juan Uro>her  to  at  least  do  one  race.  So,  we  ended 

0:38:50.820 --> 0:38:56.940
<v Juan Uro>up  doing  the  Dash  to  the  Finish  two  or  three 

0:38:56.940 --> 0:39:01.170
<v Juan Uro>years  ago  and  then  she  enjoyed.  And  again,  she  may 

0:39:01.170 --> 0:39:04.140
<v Juan Uro>feel  excluded  of  the  marathons  in  a  way.
 I  think 

0:39:04.140 --> 0:39:07.860
<v Juan Uro>we  bond together  on  many  sports,  she  plays  tennis  and  I 

0:39:07.860 --> 0:39:11.370
<v Juan Uro>love  going  to  watch  almost  all  her  matches  and  we 

0:39:11.370 --> 0:39:16.710
<v Juan Uro>play  together  and  we  bond  on  other  activities.  But  at 

0:39:16.710 --> 0:39:20.250
<v Juan Uro>least  she's  still  part  of  that  running  so  she  does 

0:39:20.250 --> 0:39:24.840
<v Juan Uro>a  couple  of  those  races.  But  also  I  think  she 

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:28.950
<v Juan Uro>understood  how  special  was  that  time  for  me  with  my 

0:39:28.950 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Juan Uro>son,  so  to  speak,  because  even  when  she's  not  sharing 

0:39:34.530 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Juan Uro>time  with  her  brother,  she  knows  about  her  brother.  And 

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:44.730
<v Juan Uro>by  the  way,  she  lives  an  amazing  honorable  life  because 

0:39:44.730 --> 0:39:48.089
<v Juan Uro>I  think  my  wife  and  I  probably  without  necessarily  putting 

0:39:48.090 --> 0:39:54.450
<v Juan Uro>pressure,  she  understood  that  she  needs  to  live  a  life 

0:39:55.440 --> 0:40:04.650
<v Juan Uro>worth  living,  so  to  speak.  So  again,  it's  special  when 

0:40:04.650 --> 0:40:07.710
<v Juan Uro>we  do  it  once  or  twice  a  year,  but  she 

0:40:07.710 --> 0:40:11.340
<v Juan Uro>also  is  respectful  of  my  time  with  her  brother,  so 

0:40:11.340 --> 0:40:11.790
<v Juan Uro>to  speak.

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  a  pretty  amazing  Father's  Day  story,  no  question  about 

0:40:16.890 --> 0:40:19.230
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it.  And  fatherhood  can  take  a  lot  of  different  forms, 

0:40:20.910 --> 0:40:24.210
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>everybody's  got  a  different  journey  as  a  father.  Yours  has 

0:40:24.210 --> 0:40:28.950
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>been  one  that's  been  difficult  at  times  for  sure,  but 

0:40:29.250 --> 0:40:32.610
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>really  fulfilling  as  well  and  running  has  been  a  big 

0:40:32.610 --> 0:40:35.700
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>part  of  it.  Well,  I  have  to  ask  you  the 

0:40:36.030 --> 0:40:39.270
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>board  member  question  at  the  end  of  course,  Juan,  you're 

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  of  our  board  members,  you  devote  a  lot  of 

0:40:42.930 --> 0:40:50.489
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  hours,  resources,  time,  commitment  to  our  organization  helping  us 

0:40:50.489 --> 0:40:53.670
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>be  the  best  that  we  can  be.  Why  do  you 

0:40:53.670 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>do  it?  What  makes  you  want  to  give  back  to 

0:40:58.230 --> 0:41:03.540
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  organization?  And  your  running  journey,  what  do  you  think 

0:41:03.540 --> 0:41:06.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  members  and  others  out  there  can  learn  about  the 

0:41:06.780 --> 0:41:09.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>role  that  Road  Runners  can  play  in  their  running  journey?

0:41:11.100 --> 0:41:15.330
<v Juan Uro>Yeah,  look,  I  think  if  I will  have  the  chance  to 

0:41:15.330 --> 0:41:18.870
<v Juan Uro>serve  in  any  organization  in  the  entire  world  and  I 

0:41:18.870 --> 0:41:22.919
<v Juan Uro>need  to  choose  one,  this  is  the  organization.  So,  in 

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:26.430
<v Juan Uro>a  way  lucky  me  that  I  was  able  to  play 

0:41:26.430 --> 0:41:31.469
<v Juan Uro>that  role.  Number  one,  10  years  ago  I  became  an 

0:41:31.469 --> 0:41:35.670
<v Juan Uro>American  but  25  years  ago  became  a  New  Yorker  so 

0:41:35.910 --> 0:41:39.150
<v Juan Uro>it's  my  city.  I  have  lived  here  most  of  my 

0:41:39.150 --> 0:41:43.529
<v Juan Uro>life  and  I  love  the  city  and  any  opportunity to  give 

0:41:43.530 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Juan Uro>back  to  the  city  is  incredible.  Number  two,  running  Half 

0:41:47.940 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Juan Uro>saved  my  life  along  the  journey,  it  make  me  from 

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.450
<v Juan Uro>the  early  days  as  I  said,  just  to  look  better 

0:41:54.450 --> 0:41:58.950
<v Juan Uro>as  a  teenager  to  the  days  of  finding  a  challenge 

0:41:58.950 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Juan Uro>to  the  days  of  just  staying  alive.
 And  I  think 

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.930
<v Juan Uro>that  that's  for  many  people  that  maybe  listen  to  the 

0:42:06.930 --> 0:42:10.620
<v Juan Uro>podcast  or  people  that  run  our  events,  some  they  do 

0:42:10.620 --> 0:42:14.430
<v Juan Uro>it  for  physical  wellness,  some  for  mental  wellness,  some  for 

0:42:14.430 --> 0:42:17.850
<v Juan Uro>spiritual.  And  the  role  that  we  have  in  making  those 

0:42:19.500 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Juan Uro>communities  accessible,  our  open  runs,  what  we  do  for  kids, 

0:42:26.820 --> 0:42:28.890
<v Juan Uro>it's  almost  an  obligation  to  pay  back  to  the  next 

0:42:28.890 --> 0:42:32.850
<v Juan Uro>generation  what  some  of  us  were  lucky  enough  to  live. 

0:42:33.989 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Juan Uro>So,  that's  the  reason  why I  do  it  and  I  appreciate 

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Juan Uro>the  opportunity  of  being  invited  by  George  many  years  ago 

0:42:45.030 --> 0:42:50.610
<v Juan Uro>into  the  board  and  try  to  make  a  difference  every 

0:42:50.610 --> 0:42:54.090
<v Juan Uro>day  or  every  week  in  giving  back  to  the  community 

0:42:54.090 --> 0:42:57.810
<v Juan Uro>in  sport  that  has  made  me a better person.

0:43:00.210 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Juan,  thank  you  for  a  great  conversation,  a  meaningful  conversation. 

0:43:05.730 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  really  appreciate  your  sharing  it  with  me,  with  our 

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:15.180
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>listeners  and  everybody  out  there.  Congratulations  to  you  for  everything 

0:43:15.180 --> 0:43:17.219
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you've  done  and  Happy  Father's  Day.

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.460
<v Juan Uro>Happy  Father's  Day  to  you  as  well,  Rob  and  thanks 

0:43:20.460 --> 0:43:21.060
<v Juan Uro>for  inviting  me.

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.620
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Today  as  part  of  our  Pride  Month  celebrations,  we're  talking 

0:43:37.620 --> 0:43:42.060
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>with  a  truly  inspiring  runner.  Galo  Vasquez  is  a  SUNY 

0:43:42.060 --> 0:43:45.420
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  Paltz  alum  who  has  dominated  New  York  Road  Runners  non-

0:43:45.420 --> 0:43:48.870
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>binary  division.  Just  this  year,  Galo  won  the  non- binary 

0:43:48.870 --> 0:43:52.469
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>title  at  both  the  United  Airlines  NYC  Half  and  the 

0:43:52.469 --> 0:43:55.710
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>RBC  Brooklyn  Half  and  they  hold  the  school  record  for 

0:43:55.710 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  8K  at  New  Paltz.  Galo  trains  with  the  Westchester 

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.060
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Track  Club  and  also  coaches  so  they  bring  a  wealth 

0:44:03.060 --> 0:44:04.530
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  experience  to  the  sports.

0:44:04.980 --> 0:44:08.310
<v  Meb Keflezighi>Thanks,  Rob.  Galo,  welcome  to  the  Set  the  Pace  podcast. 

0:44:08.310 --> 0:44:09.150
<v  Meb Keflezighi>How's  it  going  today?

0:44:09.330 --> 0:44:10.860
<v Galo Vasquez>Hey,  it's  going  pretty  well.

0:44:11.130 --> 0:44:14.250
<v  Meb Keflezighi>What a year  you  had.  You  were  the  top  non- binary  finisher 

0:44:14.250 --> 0:44:18.330
<v  Meb Keflezighi>at  the  2025  United  Airlines  NYC  Half  and  then  broke 

0:44:18.330 --> 0:44:23.850
<v  Meb Keflezighi>the  tape  at  the 2025  RBC  Brooklyn  Half.  What  do  those  back- to-

0:44:23.850 --> 0:44:25.590
<v  Meb Keflezighi>back  victories  means  to  you  personally?

0:44:26.370 --> 0:44:30.420
<v Galo Vasquez>I  got  to  summarize  it,  I  just  enjoy  doing  it. I 

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:36.780
<v Galo Vasquez>just  really  love  going  out  there  and  stringing  together  those 

0:44:36.780 --> 0:44:41.370
<v Galo Vasquez>13  miles.  And  when  I  come  away  with a  victory  it's 

0:44:41.370 --> 0:44:44.700
<v Galo Vasquez>always  like  a  bonus,  but  I  just  love  getting  out 

0:44:44.700 --> 0:44:49.469
<v Galo Vasquez>there,  I  love  racing.  So,  having  just  the  opportunity  is 

0:44:49.469 --> 0:44:53.310
<v Galo Vasquez>really  just to  show  up  and  give  it  my  best,  it 

0:44:53.310 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Galo Vasquez>really  means  everything  to  me.  And  then,  the  win  is 

0:44:56.489 --> 0:45:00.989
<v Galo Vasquez>nice,  a  little  extra,  and  I  get  to  fortunately  have 

0:45:02.489 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Galo Vasquez>a  pretty  stable  job  up  here  so  I  get  to 

0:45:05.700 --> 0:45:12.690
<v Galo Vasquez>do  some  donations  and  stuff  to  different  LGBTQ  organizations  and 

0:45:13.620 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Galo Vasquez>just  humanitarian  age  for  so  many  things that  are  going  on 

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.170
<v Galo Vasquez>with  that  little  extra  bonus  that  I  get  from  the  victories.

0:45:20.310 --> 0:45:22.410
<v  Meb Keflezighi>Great.  We'll  go  into  that a  little  bit  more  deeper,  but 

0:45:22.410 --> 0:45:25.230
<v  Meb Keflezighi>how  do  you  prepare  for  each  race  for  the  NYC 

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:26.880
<v  Meb Keflezighi>Half  and  Brooklyn?

0:45:28.380 --> 0:45:32.310
<v Galo Vasquez>How  do  I  prepare?  Let's  see.  So,  for  a  while 

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:37.950
<v Galo Vasquez>all  through  during  college  and  stuff,  I  was  doing  a 

0:45:37.950 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Galo Vasquez>lot  of  mileage.  But  in  recent  years,  in  the  past 

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:47.670
<v Galo Vasquez>two  to  three  years,  I've  been  doing  some  pretty  steady  30-

0:45:47.670 --> 0:45:51.090
<v Galo Vasquez>mile  weeks  and  just  letting  my  body  really  how  I 

0:45:51.090 --> 0:45:56.670
<v Galo Vasquez>feel  take  charge  of  my  training.  So,  when  I  was 

0:45:56.670 --> 0:46:01.140
<v Galo Vasquez>maybe  four  years  ago  I  was  doing  80, 90  miles,  but 

0:46:01.140 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Galo Vasquez>now  I'm  just  doing  two  workouts  a  week,  always  doing 

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:10.739
<v Galo Vasquez>strides  almost  every  day,  a  lot  of  some  calisthenics  but 

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<v Galo Vasquez>nothing  out  there.  Most  of  my  runs  are,  or  at 

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<v Galo Vasquez>least  my  workouts,  are  repeats  of  two  minutes  or  something 

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<v Galo Vasquez>and  sometimes  some  four- mile  tempos,  maybe  some  two- mile 

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<v Galo Vasquez>tempo  repeats,  yeah,  and  then  just  getting  good  rest

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>From  competing  from  8K  to  the  Half  Marathon  US  SUNY 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>New  Paltz  profile  notes  that  you  had  the  school  record for the 8K, 25:

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>03.  How was  the  college  experience  running  cross  country  and  track 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>and  field  influencing  training  for  the  competitive  as  a  road 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>racer  now up to  13. 1  miles?

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<v Galo Vasquez>Yeah,  I  mean,  I  think  I  learned  a  lot  about 

0:46:54.090 --> 0:46:59.010
<v Galo Vasquez>racing  and  about  patience  because  when  you're  in  the  collegiate 

0:46:59.010 --> 0:47:02.370
<v Galo Vasquez>level,  I  had  so  many  people  around  me,  it  was 

0:47:02.489 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Galo Vasquez>very,  very  competitive  and  you're  always  kind  of  keeping  track 

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:10.350
<v Galo Vasquez>of  who's  where  and  what  teams  are  coming  up.  But 

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<v Galo Vasquez>honestly,  in  a  way  running  outside  the  college  it's  a 

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<v Galo Vasquez>little  less  intense  in  terms  of  being  aware  of  who's 

0:47:17.460 --> 0:47:20.010
<v Galo Vasquez>there  and  who's  not  and  all  that stuff. So,  you  get  to 

0:47:20.010 --> 0:47:23.370
<v Galo Vasquez>kind  of  focus  a  little  bit  more  on  yourself.  So, 

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<v Galo Vasquez>I  think  I  got  used  to  that  level  of  intensity 

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Galo Vasquez>early  on  and  then  it  became  I  think  a  lot 

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<v Galo Vasquez>easier  to  say, " Okay,  I'm  going  to  show  up  to 

0:47:31.110 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Galo Vasquez>the  race."
 There  might  be  a  lot  more  people  at 

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<v Galo Vasquez>these  big  road  races,  you  have  thousands  and  thousands  of 

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<v Galo Vasquez>people,  but  the  race  itself  felt  a  little  more  relaxed  like, "

0:47:44.820 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Galo Vasquez>All  right, I'm going to go out here,  I'm  going  to  hit  my  pace.  I'm  not 

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.710
<v Galo Vasquez>really  looking  to,  I  don't  know  where  I'm  going  to 

0:47:49.710 --> 0:47:54.450
<v Galo Vasquez>end  up  scoring  or  whatever,  but  I'm  just  going  to do 

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<v Galo Vasquez>my  best."  So,  it  definitely  prepared  me  and then  now  it 

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.060
<v Galo Vasquez>feels  a  lot  easier.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>No,  it's  all  about  being  balanced  but  as  a  full-

0:48:03.180 --> 0:48:06.060
<v  Meb Keflezighi>time  employee  and  trying  to  get  some  mileage,  I  know 

0:48:06.060 --> 0:48:08.400
<v  Meb Keflezighi>you say you're not  running  as  many  miles  but  how  do  you  balance 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>work  and  trying  to  have  your  own  peak  performance  and 

0:48:12.270 --> 0:48:13.830
<v  Meb Keflezighi>winning  those  big  races?

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<v Galo Vasquez>Yeah,  I  would  say  work  and  my  training  really ...  Work, 

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:23.219
<v Galo Vasquez>my  training  and  volunteering  really  frame  everything  I  do  so 

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<v Galo Vasquez>when  I'm  scheduling  stuff,  that's  really  what  I'm  thinking  about. 

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<v Galo Vasquez>But  I  try  to  work  here  at  the  school,  at 

0:48:33.660 --> 0:48:36.060
<v Galo Vasquez>the  high  school I  work  at  I've  had  an  assistant  coaching 

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<v Galo Vasquez>job,  and  so  I'll end up  running  with  the  kids  after  school 

0:48:42.780 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Galo Vasquez>sometimes  or  they'll  see  me  right  outside  after  the  bell 

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Galo Vasquez>rings  on  the  grass  I'm  doing  a  workout.  So, I  just 

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<v Galo Vasquez>try  to  make  things  mesh  with  each  other  as  much 

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<v Galo Vasquez>as  possible,  integrate  them  together  so  that  I  make  time 

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.870
<v Galo Vasquez>for  myself  so  I  can  get  all  my  things  done. 

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<v Galo Vasquez>Yeah,  that's  it,  just  make  things  integrate  together.  Everybody  kind 

0:49:06.300 --> 0:49:08.460
<v Galo Vasquez>of  knows  what  I'm  up  to  around  here,  they  know 

0:49:08.460 --> 0:49:11.940
<v Galo Vasquez>that  I'm  dedicated  to  what  I  do  and that  I  take 

0:49:11.940 --> 0:49:15.330
<v Galo Vasquez>time  out  of  my  day  after  school  to  get  it done. And 

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<v Galo Vasquez>I  see  people  in  the  community,  everyone's  super  supportive  so 

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<v Galo Vasquez>it  makes  staying  on  the  path  pretty  easy.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>No,  I  know  you  alluded  to  as  volunteering  or  as 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>a  visible  non- binary  athlete  and  a  coach,  how do you think  your 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>success  and  visibility  helps  the  LGBTQ+  and  other  underrepresented  runners?

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<v Galo Vasquez>I  would  say  it's  a  tough  time  for  a  lot 

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<v Galo Vasquez>of  groups  of  people  right  now  to  feel  comfortable,  to 

0:49:47.250 --> 0:49:50.218
<v Galo Vasquez>feel  brave,  to  feel  like  they  can  pursue  the  things 

0:49:50.219 --> 0:49:52.710
<v Galo Vasquez>they  want  to  do  in  life  and  not  be  kind 

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<v Galo Vasquez>of  overwhelmed  by  the  barriers  that  come.  So,  I  think 

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<v Galo Vasquez>it's  really  awesome  to  have  these  big  races  that  do 

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<v Galo Vasquez>put  some  spotlights  on  the  LGBT  community  that  have  non-

0:50:04.590 --> 0:50:13.650
<v Galo Vasquez>binary  categories  'cause  it  reminds  people  that  beyond  maybe  one 

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<v Galo Vasquez>piece  of  your  identity,  you  are  a  whole  person.  You 

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<v Galo Vasquez>have  all  these  things  to,  you  could  be  an  educator, 

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.530
<v Galo Vasquez>you  could  be  a  runner,  you  could  be  activist,  you 

0:50:22.530 --> 0:50:27.540
<v Galo Vasquez>could  be, I don't know,  a  small  business  owner.  So,  to  learn  about 

0:50:27.540 --> 0:50:30.750
<v Galo Vasquez>these  people  and  people's  stories,  I  think  it  really  makes 

0:50:30.750 --> 0:50:33.060
<v Galo Vasquez>people  feel  like, " Oh,  I  can  balance  these  things  and 

0:50:33.060 --> 0:50:37.860
<v Galo Vasquez>I  don't  have  to  just  be  this  one  thing,"  so 

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<v Galo Vasquez>it's  awesome,  I  think it  really  helps  that.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>Well,  we're  grateful  for  the  New  Yorker  runs  for  giving 

0:50:44.550 --> 0:50:47.399
<v  Meb Keflezighi>us  a  platform  to  shine  our  talent,  but  do  you 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>engage  in  any  advocacy  or  mentorship  outside  of  the  competition?

0:50:53.610 --> 0:50:57.330
<v Galo Vasquez>Yeah,  I'm  a  part  of  the  Transcenders,  which  is  a 

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<v Galo Vasquez>trans  and  non- binary  running  team  that  organizes  up  here. 

0:51:04.290 --> 0:51:07.290
<v Galo Vasquez>Let's  see,  I  guess  we're,  it  was  like  Ulster  County 

0:51:07.620 --> 0:51:09.210
<v Galo Vasquez>area  but  we  have  a  lot  of  members  from  a 

0:51:09.210 --> 0:51:13.140
<v Galo Vasquez>lot  of  different  places.  And  now  it's  kind  of  hopefully 

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:18.150
<v Galo Vasquez>becoming  a  tradition.  We're  having  this  track  meet  I  think 

0:51:18.210 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Galo Vasquez>it's  August  and  it  happens  up  here,  last  year  it 

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Galo Vasquez>happened  in  Dutchess  County  in  Poughkeepsie.  So,  it  was  great 

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:34.380
<v Galo Vasquez>to  get  people  together  who  are  people in  LGBT  community  who 

0:51:34.380 --> 0:51:36.630
<v Galo Vasquez>just  want  to  compete  and  want  to  feel  comfortable,  want 

0:51:36.630 --> 0:51:39.989
<v Galo Vasquez>to  feel  safe  and  want  to  come  out  here  and 

0:51:40.980 --> 0:51:42.900
<v Galo Vasquez>get  to  know  each  other,  but  all  for  the  love 

0:51:42.900 --> 0:51:47.969
<v Galo Vasquez>of  competing  and  moving  around  and  just  having  a  joyful 

0:51:47.969 --> 0:51:52.770
<v Galo Vasquez>atmosphere.  So,  doing  stuff  like  that  is  really  important.  And 

0:51:52.770 --> 0:51:58.529
<v Galo Vasquez>then,  like  I  said  before  just  when  I  run,  it's 

0:51:58.770 --> 0:52:00.900
<v Galo Vasquez>a  place  for  my  physical  freedom  but  I'm  thinking  about 

0:52:00.900 --> 0:52:04.529
<v Galo Vasquez>everything  that's  going  on in  the  world.
 So,  while  I'm  thinking 

0:52:04.530 --> 0:52:06.660
<v Galo Vasquez>about  my  races,  my  pace  and  stuff,  I'm  also  thinking 

0:52:06.660 --> 0:52:08.969
<v Galo Vasquez>about  my  family,  my  friends  and  what's  going  on in  the 

0:52:08.969 --> 0:52:13.980
<v Galo Vasquez>world  where  I  can  donate  some  money  that  I  have 

0:52:14.250 --> 0:52:20.670
<v Galo Vasquez>living  around,  especially  with  the  wars  are  going  on,  the 

0:52:20.670 --> 0:52:24.330
<v Galo Vasquez>blockade  in  Gaza,  things  like  that,  people  are  in  a 

0:52:24.330 --> 0:52:27.810
<v Galo Vasquez>lot  of  need.  So,  that's  kind  of  how  I  organize. 

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<v Galo Vasquez>I  have  some  groups  here  too  in  Hudson  Valley  that 

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<v Galo Vasquez>I  work  with  together.  A  lot  of  educational  stuff,  putting 

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:40.770
<v Galo Vasquez>on  just  information  to  bring  people  to  a  center  so that 

0:52:40.770 --> 0:52:44.850
<v Galo Vasquez>we  can  all  get  on  the  same  page  and  work  together.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>Well,  Galo,  you're  doing  an  amazing  work  leading  the  pace 

0:52:48.870 --> 0:52:51.960
<v  Meb Keflezighi>and  then  also  doing  some  advocacy  work  and  then  they 

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:54.660
<v  Meb Keflezighi>are  very  admired  what  you  are  doing  and  breaking  barriers. 

0:52:54.660 --> 0:52:57.330
<v  Meb Keflezighi>So,  keep  up  the  great  work,  we're  grateful  for  you 

0:52:57.330 --> 0:53:00.480
<v  Meb Keflezighi>to  be  here  and  be  able  to  just  be  advocacy 

0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:03.239
<v  Meb Keflezighi>for  this  less  fortunate  one  so  keep  up  the  great  work.

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<v Galo Vasquez>Well,  thank  you  so  much  for  the  opportunity  to  have 

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<v Galo Vasquez>a  chat.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thank  you,  Galo,  for  joining  us  and  for  being  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>member  of  New  York  Road  Runners.  New  York  Road  Runners 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  a  nonprofit  organization  with  a  vision  to  build  healthier 

0:53:15.540 --> 0:53:19.350
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>lives  and  stronger  communities  through  the  transformative  power  of  running. 

0:53:19.830 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>The  support  of  members  and  donors  like  you  helps  us 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>achieve  our  mission  to  transform  the  health  and  wellbeing  of 

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:31.110
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  communities  through  inclusive  and  accessible  running  experiences  empowering  all 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  achieve  their  potential.  Learn  more  and  contribute  at  nyrr. org/

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>donate.  Yukiko  Matsuzaki  is  a  board- certified  clinical  specialist  at 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hospital  for  Special  Surgery.  She  treats  children  and  adolescents  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  range  of  orthopedic  and  sports- related  injuries,  both  surgical 

0:53:49.500 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  non- surgical.  Yukiko  works  closely  with  physicians  and  performance 

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:57.630
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>specialists  to  help  young  athletes  recover  safely  and  return  to 

0:53:57.630 --> 0:54:01.319
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>sport  with  a  lower  risk  of  future  injury.  She's  published 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  handful  of  research  papers  on  topics  of  youth  runner 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>biomechanics,  knee  surgeries  and  pediatric  sports  medicine.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>Thanks  Rob.  Yukiko,  welcome  to  the  Set  the  Pace  podcast, 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>how's  it  going  today?

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Good,  good.  Thanks  for  having  me, Meb. It's  so  exciting  to  be  here.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>Delighted  to  have  you.  You  specialize  in  treating  pediatric  adolescent 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>athletes,  what  are  some  of  the  most  common  running  related 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>injuries  you  see  at  that  age  group?

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Yeah,  sure.  So,  basically  what  makes  this  pediatric  and  adolescent 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>athletes  unique  compared  to  the  adults  is  that  their  bodies 

0:54:38.820 --> 0:54:43.140
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>are  constantly  changing,  meaning  their  bones,  their  muscles,  their  nervous 

0:54:43.140 --> 0:54:47.460
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>system,  their  hormone  levels,  their  bone  density,  they're  all  changing 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>until  they  become  an  adult.  Now,  all  kids  go  through 

0:54:52.890 --> 0:54:56.940
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>periods  of  steady  state  growth  and  really  fast  rates  of 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>growth,  which  we  call  growth  spurts,  and  this  is  really 

0:55:00.540 --> 0:55:03.060
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>the  time  where  a  lot  of  kids  are  most  vulnerable 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>to  injury.  And  the  bones  are  getting  longer  but  the 

0:55:07.860 --> 0:55:11.310
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>tendons  and  the  muscles  which  attach  to  the  bones  don't 

0:55:11.310 --> 0:55:15.300
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>stretch  out  naturally.  So,  now  we  have  a  taller  kid 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>with  tight  muscles  like  hamstrings  and  calf  muscles,  and  just 

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:25.020
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>because  you're  taller  doesn't  mean  you're  naturally  stronger.  So,  now 

0:55:25.020 --> 0:55:28.860
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>we  have  a  tall  kid  with  tight  muscles  and  relatively 

0:55:28.860 --> 0:55:34.140
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>weaker  muscles.
 Sometimes  these  tight  muscles  can  cause  what  we 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>call  growing  pains,  these  can  be  what  we  call  Osgood-

0:55:37.469 --> 0:55:41.550
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Schlatter  disease  or  Sever's  disease,  they're  at  the  knee  or 

0:55:41.550 --> 0:55:44.460
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>the  heel.  They're  called  disease  but  not  really  a  disease. 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>And  there's  also  some  similar  kind  of  injuries  at  the 

0:55:50.070 --> 0:55:55.739
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>pelvis  and  hips  that  don't  have  very  special  names.  And 

0:55:55.739 --> 0:55:58.950
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>then,  other  times  it's  a  combination  of  tight  muscles  and 

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:04.920
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>weak  muscles  that  can  result  in  things  like  front  of 

0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:09.300
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>the  knee  pain.  And  then,  finally  in  kids,  the  bones 

0:56:09.300 --> 0:56:12.420
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>are  naturally  softer  than  they  are  in  adults,  which  is 

0:56:12.420 --> 0:56:15.660
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>why  we  see  more  bone- related  injuries,  things  like  stress 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>fractures  and  avulsion  fractures  in  this  population.  The  avulsion  fractures 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>at  the  pelvis  and  the  hips  is  kind  of  commonly 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>seen  in  the  sprinters,  not  so  much  in  the  long-

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>distance  runners.  I  hope  I answered  that  question.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>Oh,  you  did,  you  did  great.  And  how  does  working 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>with  a  14- year- old  cross- country  runner  differ  from 

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:37.830
<v  Meb Keflezighi>treating  an  adult  marathoner?  I  know  you  already  answered  it, 

0:56:37.830 --> 0:56:41.160
<v  Meb Keflezighi>but  what  should  parents  and  coaches  be  aware?  Because  I 

0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:43.710
<v  Meb Keflezighi>have  a  15- year- old  daughter  and  she  plays  contact 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>soccer  and  she  still  has  the  growth  bone  injury,  not 

0:56:48.900 --> 0:56:51.719
<v  Meb Keflezighi>injury  but  when  it  impacts  she  feels  like  in  pain 

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:53.549
<v  Meb Keflezighi>or  feel  like,  if  it's  an  adult  it  would've  been 

0:56:53.550 --> 0:56:56.609
<v  Meb Keflezighi>a  disaster,  but  because it's  still  growing,  how  do  you  see 

0:56:56.610 --> 0:57:00.600
<v  Meb Keflezighi>that  development  or  science  be  able  to  just  be  okay 

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.030
<v  Meb Keflezighi>with  the  kids?  If  it  was an  adult,  it  would've  been 

0:57:03.030 --> 0:57:03.900
<v  Meb Keflezighi>probably  a  fracture.

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Yeah,  so  this  is  great.  So,  I'll  talk  about  the 

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>runner  specifically  but  it  doesn't  always  have  to  just  apply 

0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:15.029
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>to  runners.  It  can  apply  to  any  young  athletes that  play 

0:57:15.030 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>soccer  or  basketball.  Basically,  the  bone  like  I  said,  is 

0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:22.170
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>the  most  vulnerable  in  growing  kids.  So,  cross- country  runners 

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>and  even  soccer  players  who  run  a  lot  are  more 

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:28.620
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>likely  to  suffer  bone  stress  injuries.  So,  we  have  to 

0:57:28.620 --> 0:57:32.610
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>be  mindful  about  the  overall  training  load,  which  in  runners 

0:57:32.610 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>that  would  be  mileage,  in  soccer  players,  it  could  be 

0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:39.240
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>like  minutes.  And  when  we  talk  about  overall  training  load, 

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:42.720
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>we  want  to  look  at  the  week  of  how  much 

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:46.590
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>they're  playing  in  a  week  or  running  in a  week.  So, 

0:57:46.620 --> 0:57:50.310
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>these  things  are  very  easily  trackable  with  an  Apple  Watch 

0:57:50.310 --> 0:57:53.940
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>or  a  Garmin  watch,  Strava,  there's  also  the  coaches  are 

0:57:53.940 --> 0:57:56.310
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>keeping  track  or  they  should  keep  track  of  how  much 

0:57:57.240 --> 0:58:02.190
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>soccer  players  are  playing  in  minutes.
 And  while  we  all 

0:58:02.190 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>think  like  weight- bearing  exercises  are  things  that  are  like 

0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:09.150
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>running  or  standing  up  exercises  are  good  for  bone  health, 

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:14.670
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>excessive  amounts  are  not  actually  great,  can  lead  to  injuries. 

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:19.770
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>So,  super  important  to  look  at  the  overall  training  program 

0:58:19.830 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>and  make  sure  that  we  have  number  one,  rest  and 

0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:28.530
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>recovery,  right?  As  a  pro  runner  yourself  I'm  sure  you 

0:58:28.530 --> 0:58:32.190
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>had  rest  and  recovery  days.  You  probably  had  cross- training 

0:58:32.190 --> 0:58:35.190
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>days  where  you  didn't  do  that  sport.  If  you're  a 

0:58:35.190 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>soccer  player,  you  may  do  something  else.  If  you're  a 

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:41.370
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>runner,  maybe  you  go  cycling  or  you  do  swimming.  It's 

0:58:41.370 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>still  training  your  body  just  in  different  ways.  Strength  and 

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:49.500
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>conditioning  is  something  that  a  lot  of  young  athletes  are 

0:58:49.500 --> 0:58:54.960
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>missing.  And  then  finally,  sleep.  How  many  hours  of  sleep 

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:58.230
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>you  get  a  night  is  super  important  in  young  athletes' 

0:58:58.230 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>growing  bodies  similar  to  the  rest  and  recovery.
 Sleep  is 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>not  like  a  passive  state  of  rest,  it's  very  active 

0:59:07.890 --> 0:59:11.700
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>in  their  bodies  or  getting  rest,  but  things  are  being 

0:59:11.970 --> 0:59:16.860
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>repaired  and  restored.  And  then  finally,  nutrition  is  super  important. 

0:59:16.980 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Again,  whatever  sport  you  play,  we  don't  want  a  deficit 

0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>too  much  of  the  sport  with  too  little  nutrition  that 

0:59:24.840 --> 0:59:27.600
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>it's  going  to  lead  to  a  deficit  and  something  that 

0:59:27.600 --> 0:59:31.740
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>can  lead  to  injuries.  And  then  finally,  when  the  kid 

0:59:31.740 --> 0:59:34.920
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>is  going  through  an  active  period  of  growth,  like  the 

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:39.030
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>parents  are  buying  new  shoes  every  few  months,  new  pants, 

0:59:39.390 --> 0:59:43.020
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>they're  getting  taller  every  single  night,  this  is  when  we 

0:59:43.020 --> 0:59:46.920
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>need  to  modify  their  training  program.  So,  less  is  more 

0:59:47.220 --> 0:59:51.240
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>during  this  time.  So,  less  running  or  less  soccer,  less 

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:55.590
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>basketball,  whatever  it  is.  But  substitute  like  one  or  two 

0:59:55.590 --> 1:00:01.290
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>days  a  week  of  that  training  with  conditioning  exercises,  mobility 

1:00:01.290 --> 1:00:05.820
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>exercises,  foam  rolling,  stretching,  whatever  it  is,  cross- training,  that 

1:00:05.820 --> 1:00:09.960
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>can  really  lead  to  decreasing  the  risk  of  injury  and 

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:12.720
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>also  probably  improved  performance.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>You're  absolutely  right.  I  know  moderation  in  everything  and  our 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>overall,  whether  it's  mileage  or  minutes  is  so  crucial.  Sometimes 

1:00:22.500 --> 1:00:25.320
<v  Meb Keflezighi>but  the  kids  the  love  is  running  or  the  love 

1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:27.630
<v  Meb Keflezighi>is  soccer,  I  think  the  coaches  have  to  step  up 

1:00:27.630 --> 1:00:30.210
<v  Meb Keflezighi>to  say, " Hey,  you need  to  do  cross- training or you  need  to 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>rest,"  but  sometimes  difficult  to  do.  But  you  are  currently 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>leading  a  research,  adults  and  runners,  can  you  share  what 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>you  are  exploring  in  the  search  and  why  it  matters 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>for  young  athlete's  long- term  health?

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Sure.  Yes.  So.  In  this  study  I  looked  at  healthy 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>uninjured  runners and  I  just  took  a  look  at  how  they 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>run.  And  what  we  found  was  that  their  running  form 

1:00:54.810 --> 1:00:59.430
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>were  kind  of  consistent  with  weak  hip  or  core  muscles. 

1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:05.820
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>They  all  had  overstriding  striking  posture  and a lot of  the  kids  had 

1:01:05.910 --> 1:01:09.090
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>pronated  ankles  or  like  an  inward  collapse  or  the  ankle 

1:01:09.090 --> 1:01:14.280
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>and  the  foot.  Now,  these  things  are  associated  with  injuries 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>in  adult  runners.  Since  in  this  study  we  did  not 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>compare  the  group  to  injured  athletes,  I  can't  say  that 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>a  certain  running  form  is  related  to  an  injury  in 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>this  adolescent  running  group.  So,  that  would  be  really  the 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>next  step.
 So,  the  main  finding  with that  was  that  the 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>healthy  youth  runners  ran  differently  compared  to  what  we  know 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>is  what  healthy  adult  runners  run.  So,  what  we  don't 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>want  to  do  as  healthcare  providers  or  someone  who's  doing 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>a  running  analysis  is  to  use  some  of  these  norms 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>and  numbers  from  what  we  found  in  the  adult  running 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>literature,  and  I'll  kind  of  simply  apply  them  to  the 

1:01:53.790 --> 1:01:56.670
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>youth  runners.  I  don't  think  that  really  would  work  really 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>well  and  there's  so  many  different  pieces  of  the  puzzles 

1:02:01.770 --> 1:02:06.450
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>to  kind  of  put  together  to  make  a  youth  athlete 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>healthy.  So,  just  looking  at  numbers  can  be  really  tricky. 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>So,  that's  the  bottom  line.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>Most  importantly  make  them  have  fun  so  they  can  develop 

1:02:16.110 --> 1:02:20.040
<v  Meb Keflezighi>to  be  an  adult  and  engage  so  they  don't  lose 

1:02:20.040 --> 1:02:20.850
<v  Meb Keflezighi>their  passion.

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Yep.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>And  then,  for  young  runners  training  for  their  first  big 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>race,  what  are  some  of  the  warning signs that we may see doing too much  or  too  soon?

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>So,  too  much  too  soon  frequently  happens  during  preseason  or 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>right  after  the  preseason  begins.  Let's  take  cross- country  as 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>an  example  so  that's  a  fall  sport.  So,  sometime  around  mid-

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>August,  preseason  begins.  All  the  students  are  coming  back  from 

1:02:47.220 --> 1:02:50.550
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>the  summer,  sometimes  they've  gone  to  summer  camp  and  done 

1:02:50.880 --> 1:02:54.870
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>completely  different  sports.  Maybe  they've  been  working  all  summer,  maybe 

1:02:54.870 --> 1:02:57.270
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>they've  just  kind  of  been  lazy  and  hanging  out  over 

1:02:57.270 --> 1:03:00.120
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>the  summer.  A  lot  of  them  are  not  in  shape 

1:03:00.150 --> 1:03:04.530
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>even  for  preseason.  Now,  preseason  is  pretty  tough,  it's  meant 

1:03:04.530 --> 1:03:06.900
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>to  be  pretty  tough.  The  coaches  want  to  get  these 

1:03:06.900 --> 1:03:09.870
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>athletes  in  shape  so  that  they  have  a  good  season. 

1:03:10.590 --> 1:03:14.280
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>So,  I  think  it's  really  important  that  these  athletes  are 

1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:17.010
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>ready  for  preseason.  So,  you  almost  have  to  have  a 

1:03:17.010 --> 1:03:20.850
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>baseline,  right?  You've  got  good  sleep,  you  have  baseline  mileage 

1:03:20.850 --> 1:03:27.750
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>for  runners  or  fitness  for  soccer  players,  whatever,  and  you're 

1:03:27.750 --> 1:03:30.900
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>just  in  shape.
 Your  strength  is  good,  you've  worked  out 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>all  summer.  I  think  having  a  consistent  schedule  like  you 

1:03:34.740 --> 1:03:39.360
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>worked  out  throughout  let's  say  June  or  July,  you  went 

1:03:39.360 --> 1:03:43.230
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>to  the  gym  and  then  you're  ready  for  the  preseason 

1:03:43.830 --> 1:03:47.580
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>so  that  you  don't  crash  during  that  course.  And  then, 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>some  of  the  main  symptoms  and  the  signs  and  symptoms 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>of  overtraining  would  be  like  fatigue.  You're  tired  all  the 

1:03:53.370 --> 1:03:57.060
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>time  regardless  of  the  number  of  hours  you're  sleeping,  you're 

1:03:57.060 --> 1:04:01.380
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>tired  during  the  day  at  school.  We  also  see  kids 

1:04:01.380 --> 1:04:05.670
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>who  keep  getting  injured  or  they're  just  not  performing  really 

1:04:05.670 --> 1:04:09.930
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>well  despite  the  amount  of  practice.  So,  those  are  big 

1:04:09.930 --> 1:04:14.010
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>red  flags  of  overtraining.  So,  like  I  said  before,  sometimes 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>less  is  more  so  less  running,  less  sports,  but  more 

1:04:17.970 --> 1:04:22.230
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>time  spent  on  rest  and  recovery,  cross- training,  conditioning,  making 

1:04:22.230 --> 1:04:24.840
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>your  body  ready  for  the  sport  I  think  is  really  key.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>It  is  important  even  as  an  elite  athlete  when  you 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>bring  into  preseason  you  like  you  hate  it  because,  well, 

1:04:32.100 --> 1:04:34.230
<v  Meb Keflezighi>you  took  some  time  off,  the  muscles  are  sore,  you 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>feel  a  little  bit  lethargic,  but  let  the  fitness  come 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>to  you  instead  of  rushing  into  it.

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Yes.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>So,  your  points  on  very  well  taken.  What  are  some 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>of  the  changes  you  wish  more  youth  running  program  would 

1:04:48.870 --> 1:04:53.190
<v  Meb Keflezighi>make  to  better  support  the  injury  prevention  and  long- term  success?

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Yes.  So,  I  think  one  thing  that  youth  athletes  need 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>to  incorporate  is  strength  and  conditioning.  And  we're  talking  about 

1:05:04.620 --> 1:05:08.580
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>basic  stuff  like  one- legged  balance.  Can  you  balance  on 

1:05:08.580 --> 1:05:11.310
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>one  leg  with  your  eyes  open  for  30  seconds,  right? 

1:05:11.310 --> 1:05:15.000
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Can  you  do  a  nice  squat,  two- legged  squat,  nothing 

1:05:15.000 --> 1:05:18.870
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>fancy,  no  loaded,  no  squat  rack,  crazy  stuff.  Can  you 

1:05:18.870 --> 1:05:23.189
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>do  single- leg  exercises,  right?  Remember,  running  is  a  single-

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>legged  workout.  If  you  cannot  balance  and  stabilize  your  body 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>over  one  leg,  you're  not  going  to  be  a  good 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>runner.  And  obviously  this does  not  go  for  just  youth  runners 

1:05:33.720 --> 1:05:37.440
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>and  will  go  for  any  runner.
 But  I  think  sometimes 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>we  all  focus  on  the  sport  too  much  and  we're 

1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:47.220
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>missing  out  on  the  basic  foundation,  core  strength,  balance,  mobility, 

1:05:47.430 --> 1:05:50.940
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>how  your  joints  move,  your  ankles,  your  knees,  your  hips 

1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:56.220
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>and  then  strength,  so  stability.  Like  I  said,  they  all 

1:05:56.220 --> 1:06:00.660
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>kind  of  fit  together  to  provide  a  nice  stable  running 

1:06:00.660 --> 1:06:03.270
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>form.  And  I  think  that's  really  what  makes  a  difference, 

1:06:03.270 --> 1:06:10.080
<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>not  just  muscling  through  these  races.  I  think  the  simple 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>things  really  make  the  biggest  change  or  the  difference  in 

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>your  performance  and  how  you  feel.

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>Yukiko,  these  are  amazing  knowledge  that  you shared  with  us,  especially 

1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:22.980
<v  Meb Keflezighi>with  kids.  They're  fun  contents  to  have, on  a  pillow  or  single-

1:06:22.980 --> 1:06:25.920
<v  Meb Keflezighi>leg  squat  or  one  eye  closed  trying  to  reach  for 

1:06:25.920 --> 1:06:29.430
<v  Meb Keflezighi>the  ground  and  then  back  up,  it's  phenomenal.  And  I 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>talk  about  that in Meb  For  Mortals  is  the  strengthening.  Sometimes  we 

1:06:33.570 --> 1:06:37.485
<v  Meb Keflezighi>all  want  to  do  efficient  running,  but  we  forget  about 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>the  small  increment  that  helps  you  be a  well- balanced  athlete 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>to  help  you  carry  on  single- leg  from  5K to  the 10K to the  half-

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>marathon,  full  marathon.  So,  great  job  and  showing  this  research 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>and  able  to  share  with  us.  So,  it  means  a 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>lot  and  keep  up  the  great  work  and thank you  for  being 

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<v  Meb Keflezighi>with  us.

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<v Yukiko Matsuzaki>Thank  you, Meb.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That  does  it  for  our  Father's  Day  edition  of  Set 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Pace.  We  want  to  thank  our  guests  today,  Juan 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Uro,  New  York  Road  Runners  member,  Galo  Vasquez  and  HSS's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yukiko  Matsuzaki.  If  you  liked  the  episode,  please  make  sure 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>us  and  help  others  find  the  show  too.  Happy  Father's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Day  everybody,  we'll  see  you  next  week.