WEBVTT - Marathons, Milestones, and Meb: Celebrating 100 Episodes of Set the Pace

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<v Meb Keflezighi>The  mission  of  the  New York Runners is  to  inspire  people.  And  from 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>point  A  to  point  B,  from  Staten  Island  all  the 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>way  to  Central  Park.  It's  not  how  fast,  but  whatever 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>you  are  capable  of  doing,  no  gender  or  age or weight  or all those things, getting to 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>the  finish  line,  and " run  to  win,"  that's  what  it 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>is,  to  get  the  best  out of  yourself.

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<v Audio>Thank  you,  New  York.  Today,  we're  reminded  of  the  power 

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<v Audio>of  community  and  the  power  of  coming  together.  Athletes,  on 

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<v Audio>your  mark!
 The  first  woman  to  finish  for  the  second 

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<v Audio>straight  year,  here  in  the  New  York City Marathon  is  Miki  Gorman. 

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<v Audio>A  smiling  Miki  Gorman,  and  why  not? 2:29: 30,  the  time for Grete Waitz.


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<v Audio>Look  at  the  emotion  of  Shalane  Flanagan  as  she  comes 

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<v Audio>to  the  line.
 Pointing  to  his  chest,  pointing  to  the 

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<v Audio>USA,  he  so  proudly  wears  across  his  chest. A great day for Meb Keflezighi.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hello everybody, and  welcome  to  a  special  episode  of  Set  the  Pace, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  official  podcast  of  New  York  Road  Runners,  presented  by 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Peloton.  I'm  your  host,  Rob  Simmelkjaer,  the  CEO  of  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  Road  Runners.  And  with  me  as  always,  my  co-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>host,  Peloton  instructor,  Becs  Gentry.  We  are  here  with  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>live  studio  audience,  because...  It's  incredible.  We're  here  today  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  great  crowd  because,  Becs,  it  is  the  100th  episode of Set the Pace.

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<v Becs Gentry>100.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>They  keep  letting  us  do  it-

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<v Becs Gentry>They do.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Over  and  over,  and  over  again.

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<v Becs Gentry>And over, and over.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  so  I  keep  showing  up  to  do  it  again, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  now  we've  got  actual  live  people  here  with  us as well.

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<v Becs Gentry>Actual live people.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>How  cool is this?

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<v Becs Gentry>It is so cool.  As  we'd  say  at  Peloton,  welcome  to  your  Century 

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<v Becs Gentry>episode.  If  you  ever  had  a  Century  run,  walk  or 

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<v Becs Gentry>a  class  at  Peloton,  you  know  what  I'm  talking  about.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  is  so exciting, and  I  neglect  to  mention  where  we  are, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>by  the  way.  We're  not  just  live  with  an  amazing 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>audience,  but  we  are  at  the  New  York  Public  Theater, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>which  is  a  legendary  space  in  New  York  City.  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yorkers  know  it  as  the  place  that  so  many  incredible 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>performances  and  shows  have  launched.  Most  notably,  of  course,  Hamilton, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>which  started  here  at  the  Public  Theater.  New  Yorkers  just 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>call  it  the  Public,  right  down  here  on  Astor  Place 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  Lafayette.  So  it's  a  legendary  place.  We've  got  this 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>beautiful  theater  here  that  they've  given  us  for  the  day.

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<v Becs Gentry>Can  I  add  a  UK  adage  here?  I  just  got 

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<v Becs Gentry>told  that  Adele  did  her  first  New  York  appearance  in 

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<v Becs Gentry>Joe's  bar.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Whoa.  I  did  not  know  that.

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<v Becs Gentry>I  love that  that  got  more  love  than  the  Hamilton  thing.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Everybody  knew  Hamilton.  I  did  not  know  that  about  Adele, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Joe's  Pub,  of  course,  part  of  this  complex,  which  is 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>an  incredible  place  to  watch  live  music.

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<v Becs Gentry>Yeah,  Adele,  I  mean,  there  on  the  floor.  Wow.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  Becs,  what  I  think  we  can  say  is  this is 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  close  as  you and I are  ever  getting  to  Broadway,  right  here.

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<v Becs Gentry>I  would hope. I mean, I don't know about  your  singing  voice,  but  mine  is,  my  cat 

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<v Becs Gentry>can  sing  better.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  stick  to  the talking.  I  stick  to  the  talking,  absolutely.

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<v Becs Gentry>Me too. Me too. And  my  dancing,  good  Lord.  It  would  all  go  wrong.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>But  it's  an  honor  to  be  here.  We  want  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thank  the  folks  from  the  public  for  having  us  here. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  Becs,  I  just  think  back  about  when  we  first 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>started  this  little  podcast.  You  weren't  with  us  yet.  Our 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>friend,  Meb Keflezighi, he's  going  to  be  joining  us in  a  little  while. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Meb Keflezighi  in  the  audience.  Let's  hear  it  for Meb.
Meb will  be  up 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>here  talking  about  life,  talking  about  the  podcast,  about  running. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>But  when  we  first  started  this  little  podcast,  it  was 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>me and  Meb,  a  great  team  here  at  New  York  Road 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Runners,  and  we  just  figured,  you  know  what?  Let's  give 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>people  something  to  listen  to  while  they're  putting  in  all 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>those  miles,  training  for  the  TCS  New  York  City  Marathon 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>or  whatever  it  is.

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<v Becs Gentry>We  need  it.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  here  we are,  a  hundred  episodes  later.

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<v Becs Gentry>A  hundred  episodes,  a  year and  a  half.  So  many  guests, 

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<v Becs Gentry>so  many  member  stories,  and  tons  of  races.  So  I 

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<v Becs Gentry>can't  even  think  about  the  miles  and  the  minutes  combined. 

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<v Becs Gentry>But  thank  you  all  for  listening,  leaving  the  reviews  and 

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<v Becs Gentry>keeping  us  going,  because  we  do  it  all  for  you 

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<v Becs Gentry>guys,  and  obviously  our  love  of  running,  which  is  huge. 

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<v Becs Gentry>But  yeah,  and  here's  too  many  more,  we're  ready  for 

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<v Becs Gentry>the  Comma  Club.  We're  ready  for  a  thousand  episodes,  right? 

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<v Becs Gentry>He's  going  to  be  sick  of  me.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Let's  be  happy we made it  to  a  hundred.  I'm  happy  with  that. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>But  I  think  for  me,  my  favorite  part  of  doing 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  is  when  I'm  at  races,  I  was  just  at 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  race  this  past  Sunday.  We  had  the  Run as  One 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>4M,  in  Central  Park.  Who  ran  that?  Anybody  run  this 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>past  weekend?

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<v Becs Gentry>Yay.  Awesome.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  was a  good  day  to  run,  good  running  weather,  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>little  damp,  but  turned  out  to  be  a  pretty  good 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>day  to  run.  And  I'm  at  the  finish  line  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>these  races,  Becs,  and  I  just  love  how  many  people 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>come  up  to  me,  give  me  a  high  five  at 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  finish  line  and  say, " Thank  you  so  much  for 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  podcast.  Love  listening  to  it.  Where's  Becs?"  They  usually  say, "

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Where's Becs?" They want to know where  Becs is.  They  all  want  me  to  say  hi  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you,  so  hi.

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<v Becs Gentry>Hi.  Thank  you.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>But  it's  just  great  that  people  are  finding  some  value 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  it,.and  I  think  the  value  is  the  conversations  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  stories  and the  incredible  people  that  we've  had  on  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>show,  the  incredible  stories  that  they  have.  So  many  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>them,  which  we'll  talk  about  some  a  little  bit  later on today.

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<v Becs Gentry>Surely. Did you run  this  weekend?

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  did  run,  I  did.

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<v Becs Gentry>Did  you  break  your  four- mile  PR?

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I did not. I  did  not  break  my  four- mile  PR.  That's  going 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  be  a  hard  PR  for  me  to  break.  I 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  in  a  really  good  speed  zone  about  a  year 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>ago,  and  I  ran  a  great  time  in  that, that  exact 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>same  race,  the Run as  One.

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<v Becs Gentry>You got me to do  it  too  somehow.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's a  great  course.  I  love  that  course  because  you  get 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Cat  Hill  out  of  the  way  early,  and  the  first 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>mile  you  go  right  up  that  thing  and  it's  over, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  then  you  can  kind  of  look  forward  to  going 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>downhill  toward  the  ends.  It's  a  great  course.

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<v Becs Gentry>And you don't see the  judgy  cat,  which  I  like.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah.

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<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.  You  won't know, you don't know  my  feelings about the  judgy  cat,  versus  our  friend, Abbey Fuller.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That cat does have a judgy  look.

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<v Becs Gentry>She  loves  the  cat,  I  hate  the  cat.  But  I 

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<v Becs Gentry>love  not  seeing  it.  But  yes,  congratulations  to  everybody  who 

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<v Becs Gentry>ran  it.  It  was  a  bit  of  a  miserable  day.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  turned  out  okay.

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<v Becs Gentry>I  think  for  running,  it  was  pretty good.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>But it cleared up, and it turned out okay. And  Becs,  April  is  a  busy  month.  That  was  really 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  the  beginning  of  things  for  us  in  the  month 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  April,  that  great  race  presented  of  course  by  J.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>P.  Morgan  Chase.  The  run  is  one  4- miler.  By 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  way,  the  winners  of  that  race,  Roberta  Groner  won 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  women's  side,  21  minutes,  27  seconds.  She  continues  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  amaze.

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<v Becs Gentry>But  those  hills.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>She  is  an  incredible  athlete.

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<v Becs Gentry>Unreal.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>On  the  non- binary  side,  it  was  Elijah  Taylor  who's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>won  a  lot  the  last  year  or  so  with  22:29.

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<v Becs Gentry>Yikes.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  on  the  men's  side,  Devin  Hart's  clocking  in  at 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>19  minutes  and  nine  seconds  for  that  race.

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<v Becs Gentry>That is so fast.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  that  was  an  incredible  day  for  Devin  Hart.  So 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>congrats  to  the  winners.  And  we're  right  back  out  there 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  weekend,  Becs,  with  another  4- mile  race.  This  is 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Retro  Run,  that  we  go.  Who's  running  the  Retro 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Run?  Anybody  signed  up  to  run  this  weekend?

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<v Becs Gentry>Yay. Great.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>The  Retro  Run  is,  if  you  don't  know,  is  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>run  where  we  invite  everybody  to  show  up  wearing  retro 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>styles,  retro  clothes,  the  short  shorts,  so  much  the '70s, and the  '80s.

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<v Becs Gentry>And  the  high  socks.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  won't  catch  me  wearing  those,  but  some  people  wear 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>those.  A  lot  of  tie- dye.

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<v Becs Gentry>You got  to  ask  Quasi,  he  might  tell  you  to  wear those.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Oh,  yeah.  Our  fashion  guest,  that's  right,  from  a  couple 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  weeks  ago.  He  could  tell  me  to  wear  them. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  not  going  to  happen.  I  am  not  putting  those 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>things  on.  But  somebody  can  do  it,  and  I'd  love 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  see  a  picture  of  that.

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<v Becs Gentry>We  want  headbands  and  all  sorts,  right?  The  vibe.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Definitely headbands.  We  want the  headbands,  like  the tube socks.

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<v Becs Gentry>Tube  socks.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Pulled  up  nice  and  high.  So you  got  to  definitely  dust 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>off  your  best  look.  Go  to  whatever  thrift  shop  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>need  to  go  to  to  find  some  old  running  gear. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  that's  the  retro  4- miler  coming  up  this  weekend. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Then  on  Saturday,  April  19th,  we'll  be  out  at  Icon 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Stadium  for  the  kids,  the  New  York  Road  Runners  Spring 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Jamboree,  presented  by  TCS,  which  is  a  great  event.  It's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>so  great  to  see  the  kids  out  there  on  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>track.  And  then  the  month  wraps  up  on  April  27th 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>back  in  Central  Park  for  the  Maybelline  Women's  half,  which 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  an  awesome  day.

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<v Becs Gentry>One  of my favorites. It's the best.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  is  a  great  race.

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<v Becs Gentry>It  really is. It really is.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Actually,  so  many  women  love  the  chance  to  go  out, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>run  that  distance  just  with  other  women.  I  don't  know, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>have  you  run  that  race?

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<v Becs Gentry>Yeah,  I podiumed  in  it  a  couple  of  years  ago.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Well,  excuse  me.  Of  course  you  did.  What  was  special 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  you  about running that race?

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<v Becs Gentry>It was  my  first  official  race  after  having  Tallulah.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Wow.

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<v Becs Gentry>Yeah. And  I  cried  hysterically  when  I  ran  past  her,  because 

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<v Becs Gentry>she  was  this  tiny  little  dot  strapped  onto  Austin,  and 

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<v Becs Gentry>I  just  broke  down.  And  the  girl  I  was  running 

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<v Becs Gentry>with,  bless  her.  She,  A,  at  the  moment,  she  was  like, "

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<v Becs Gentry>You're  a  mom?"  I  was  like, " Yeah,  that  was  my 

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<v Becs Gentry>baby,  that's  why  I'm  crying."  And  she  was  ever  so 

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<v Becs Gentry>sweet.  And  she's  like, " Just  imagine  what  she's  going  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>think  of  you  one  day."  I  was  like, " Oh."  That 

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<v Becs Gentry>was  women  coming  together,  and  it  was  truly  magnificent  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>see  her  at  the  finish.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  really  sweet. Becs was just telling me before the  show  that  Tallulah  is  going  to  take 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  her  first  New York  Road  Runners  race  a  little  bit 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>later  this  year.

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<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.  She  is.  And  if  she  doesn't  win,  you'll  hear  her.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  going  to  be  at  the  New  Balance  5th  Avenue  Mile.

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<v Becs Gentry>Hopefully.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Is that  the  plan?

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<v Becs Gentry>That's  the  plan.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  what  the  coaches  have  slotted  for  her.

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<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  her  big  debut.

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<v Becs Gentry>Mom  and  poppy  coach  have  got  it  in.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  can't  wait  for  that.

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<v Becs Gentry>I know.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>We  start  them  as  young  as  two,  if  you  don't 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>know,  at  New  York  Road  Runners,  and  those  two- year-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>old  races,  I  dare  you  to  find  something  cuter  than 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  thing.  These  little  kids  toddling  down,  some  with  parents, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>some  without.  You  said  you  were going  to  let  her  go 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  her  own,  right?  No  hand- holding.

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<v Becs Gentry>I'm a  tough  love  mom.  I'm  like, " You  can  do  this 

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<v Becs Gentry>by  yourself  baby  girl."  She'll  be  just  under  three,  so 

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<v Becs Gentry>I  think  that's  fine.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  love  it.

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<v Becs Gentry>Austin  might  have  another  idea.  He'll  probably  be,  she's  a 

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<v Becs Gentry>daddy's  girl  so  he  might  be  glued  to  her.  We'll  see.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  can't  wait,  I  can't  wait  to see that. And then also,  Becs,  another  big 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thing  about  April,  not  just  at  New  York  Road  Runners, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>but  everywhere.  It  is  Global  Volunteer  Month,  which  is  huge 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  us  here.

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<v Becs Gentry>Huge. Yeah.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Because  if  anyone  has  ever  run  any  New  York  Road 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Runners  race,  you  know  how  crucial  volunteers  are  to  everything 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  we  do,  and  we're  really  excited  to  thank  them 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  entire  month.  Our  volunteer  team  is  celebrating  all  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you,  not  only  this  month  but  every  race  throughout  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year.  And  so  to  that  end,  Becs,  we're  going  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>have  a  very  special  member  moment  on  today's  show.  Our 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>member's  going  to  be  a  familiar  face  to  New  York 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Road  Runners,  longtime  volunteer,  Janelle  Hartman  will  be  here  later 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  the  show  to  talk about  her  amazing  run  as  one 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  our  top,  top  volunteers.

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<v Becs Gentry>Really.  And  it's  also,  I  know  it's  not  in  our 

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<v Becs Gentry>show  notes,  sorry  Catherine,  but  it's  Earth  Day  this  month 

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<v Becs Gentry>too.  And  I  think  that  ties  in  really  nicely  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>our  volunteers  and  all of  the  great  things  that  New  York 

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<v Becs Gentry>Road  Runners  are  doing  to  be  earth- conscious  with  our 

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<v Becs Gentry>runs,  and  we're  helping  encourage  people  to  hold  onto  their 

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<v Becs Gentry>trash  while  they're  running.  Shove  those  gel  packets  in  your 

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<v Becs Gentry>shorts.  All  the  tech  gear  these  days  has  plenty  of 

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<v Becs Gentry>pockets,  so  use  them.  Don't  use  the  ground,  okay,  spread 

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<v Becs Gentry>that  word  around.  It's  plenty,  New  York  trash...  I  hate 

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<v Becs Gentry>saying  that  word,  bins  are,  they're  big  receptacles.  Like  you 

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<v Becs Gentry>have  the  space  to  dodge  and  pop  your  plastic  bottle 

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<v Becs Gentry>if  you're  using  one,  in.  So  let's  celebrate  Earth  Day 

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<v Becs Gentry>with  Healthy  Earth  Running  as  well  this  month.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>We  will  be  celebrating  it  throughout  the  month.  I  know 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we're  going  to  have  some  clogging  events  where  you  can 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>run  and  pick  up  trash  and  other  things  to  celebrate 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that.  So  April  is  a  great month. We  just  need  to  get 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  little  bit  warmer,  that  will  be  nice.  A  little 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>warmer,  30- something  degrees  in  April. Not what we need?

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<v Becs Gentry>There's  snow  Upstate.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah. Yeah. But that'll happen, inevitably that will happen.

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<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.
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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  well,  Becs,  this  show  started  out  with  me 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  one  of  the  legends  of  running  here  in  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York,  taking  on  our  very  first  episode,  Meb Keflezighi.  Meb,  I 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>want  to have you  come  on  up  here  to  the  stage  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>join  us.

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<v Becs Gentry>Yay,  Meb.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Meb  is  a  man  who  needs  really  no  introduction  around 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York.  I  love  walking  around  with  Meb  on  marathon 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>weekends,  whether  it's  in  Boston  or  New  York  or  wherever 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  might  be,  because  it's  like  walking  around  with  Paul 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>McCartney.  People  are  grabbing  him,  they  are  stopping  him.  They 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>are  taking  pictures  with  him.  You  really  can't  go  anywhere 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>with  Meb  on  a  big  marathon  weekend.
 But  for  those 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>who  don't  know,  this  man  is a  2004  Olympic  silver  medalist 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  Athens.  In  2009  he  became  the  first  American  since 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>1982  to  win  the  New  York  City  Marathon.  Follow  that 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up in  2014  with  a  win  at  the  Boston  Marathon,  becoming 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  first  American  man  to  win  there  since  1983.  An 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>unbelievable  career  this  man  has  had.  I'm  just  going  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>keep  embarrassing  you,  if  you  don't  mind.  In  2015,  he 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>set  a  TCS  New  York  City  Marathon  Masters  event  record 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>with  a  time  of 2:13: 32.  And  he's  someone  we  just 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>love  having  around  at  New  York  Road  Runners,  and  we 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>could  not  have  launched  this  podcast  without  him.  So  Meb, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>welcome  back  to  the  show.

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Thank  you,  Rob,  it's  great  to  be  here.  Thanks  Becs. I'm honored 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>to  be  here.  And  this  historic  place,  what  a  wonderful 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>journey  it  has  been.  Thanks for  a  wonderful  introduction.  But  New York 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Road  Runners  have  been  a  big  journey,  part  of  my  life.

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<v Becs Gentry>We  are  so  honored  to  have  you  here.  I  feel 

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<v Becs Gentry>like  Rob's  correct,  you  can't  go  anywhere  when  you  are 

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<v Becs Gentry>in  a  city  with  a  major  running  event,  but  it 

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<v Becs Gentry>is  so  phenomenal  to  see,  and  you're  not  only  known 

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<v Becs Gentry>for  your  incredible  contributions  to the  running  world  as  a  runner 

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<v Becs Gentry>yourself,  but  also  as  a  philanthropist.  You  have  your  MEB 

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<v Becs Gentry>Foundation,  which  has  been  one  of  the  biggest  things  for 

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<v Becs Gentry>you  in  your  life  to  help  runners  continue,  and  help 

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<v Becs Gentry>everybody  come  into  running,  right?

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Absolutely.  My  running  started  when  I  was  in  seventh  grade 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>to  get  an  A  and  a  T- shirt.  And  when 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>I  ran  as  hard  as  I  could,  a  PE  teacher 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>named  Duke  Lorde  says, " You're  going  to  go to  the  Olympics." 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Because  I  ran  a 5: 20  during  physical  education  class  and 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>I  said-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Wait  a  second,  let's  just,  say  that  again.  In  eighth  grade-

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Seventh  grade.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Seventh  grade.  Seventh  grade  you  ran  a  5: 20  mile. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  had  never  really  run  before,  they  just  sent  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out  there  and  said, " Go run a  mile,  see  what  happens."

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Just  basically  my  oldest  brothers  have  a  T- shirt  that 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>says  Roosevelt  Junior  High  Mile  Club  T- shirt.  And  he 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>told  the  whole  class, " If  you  run  hard,  I'm  going 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>to  give  you  A  or  a  B.  If  I  see 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>you  mess  around  or  go  for  a run,  you're  going  to 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>get  a D or a  F."  I didn't  want  to  disappoint  my  parents,  so 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>I  ran  as  hard  as I  could.  I  was  a  soccer 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>player  before,  but I  never  ran  in  my  entire  life.  In 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>fact,  when  I  saw  first  people running,  I  saw,  what  are 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>they  doing?  They're  not  chasing  anything.  So  I  became  one 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>of  those  crazy  people  because  in  seventh  grade  I  ran at 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>a  5: 20  miles.  And  I  grew  up  in  Eritrea 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>without  electricity,  no  running  water.  So  he  says, " You're  going to go to 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>the  Olympics."  I'm  like,  A,  T- shirt."  That's  all  I 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>knew.  And  he  called  the  high  school  coach  and  says, 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>this  little  one's  going  to  be  a  really  good  one. 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>And  then  the  rest  is  history.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  would  love  to  know  the  splits  in  that  mile, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Meb.  I  really  would  like  to  know  whether  that  was 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  negative  split  for  you,  that  mile.  I'm  going  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>guess  not,  since  you  probably  just  took  off  running  as 

0:16:26.940 --> 0:16:27.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>fast  as  you  could.

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Rob,  I  took  off  like  crazy  because  it  was  not 

0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.750
<v Meb Keflezighi>around  the  track  either,  it  was  more,  if  you're  ever 

0:16:33.750 --> 0:16:36.990
<v Meb Keflezighi>in  San  Diego  next  to  the  zoo,  there's  a  middle 

0:16:36.990 --> 0:16:39.450
<v Meb Keflezighi>school,  you  run  around  the  baseball  field,  go  down  the 

0:16:39.450 --> 0:16:42.900
<v Meb Keflezighi>ramp  around  the  softball  field  and  the  finish  come  up 

0:16:42.900 --> 0:16:45.359
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  ramp.  And  he  has  to  have  a  difficult  job 

0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.670
<v Meb Keflezighi>because  he  has  to  keep  a  eye  on  me,  but 

0:16:47.670 --> 0:16:50.370
<v Meb Keflezighi>also  on  the  back  of  the  people  because  they  don't 

0:16:50.370 --> 0:16:53.490
<v Meb Keflezighi>want  them  to  cut.  But  to  be  able  to  just 

0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.490
<v Meb Keflezighi>run  that  fast  and  for  me  was  eye- opening,  and that was 

0:16:56.820 --> 0:16:59.040
<v Meb Keflezighi>my  God- given  talent.  And  I  want  to  make  my 

0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.620
<v Meb Keflezighi>parents  proud  to  get  an  A,  and  then  to  get 

0:17:01.620 --> 0:17:03.570
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  T- shirt  because  I  want  to  be  like  my  brothers.

0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:12.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Fred  LeBeau  had  the  quote  I  often  use, " Never  underestimate 

0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  power  of  a  free  T- shirt."  And  in  this 

0:17:15.450 --> 0:17:16.981
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>case  it  actually  ended  up  minting  an Olympian.

0:17:16.981 --> 0:17:17.100
<v Becs Gentry>Testament.

0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.490
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  that's  pretty  impressive  power  of  the  T- shirt  right  there.

0:17:20.700 --> 0:17:23.310
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah,  who  knows  how  many  other  Olympians  have  followed  that, 

0:17:23.340 --> 0:17:28.890
<v Becs Gentry>Fred  LeBeau.  Talking  of  quotes,  let's  talk  about  Meb's,  one 

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<v Becs Gentry>of  your  quotes.  Okay.  So  if  you  run  with  me 

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<v Becs Gentry>at  Peloton,  people  have  heard  me  say  forward  is  a 

0:17:33.150 --> 0:17:36.270
<v Becs Gentry>pace,  and  that  is  my  mantra  because  I  believe  that 

0:17:36.270 --> 0:17:38.100
<v Becs Gentry>doesn't  matter  how  fast  you're  running,  as  long  as  you 

0:17:38.100 --> 0:17:40.980
<v Becs Gentry>keep  moving,  that's  the  most  important  thing,  you're  moving  forward. 

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<v Becs Gentry>Yours  is, " run  to  win."  Okay.  Can  you  talk  to 

0:17:46.050 --> 0:17:49.560
<v Becs Gentry>us  about  what  you  mean  when  you  say  that,  and 

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<v Becs Gentry>how  can  we  apply  that  to  all  aspects  of  our  life?

0:17:56.250 --> 0:18:00.660
<v Meb Keflezighi>The  New  York  Road  Runners have a great, it  says  inspiring  to  run  in 

0:18:00.780 --> 0:18:03.750
<v Meb Keflezighi>generation  to  come.  The  mission  of  the  New York Runners is  to  inspire 

0:18:03.750 --> 0:18:07.260
<v Meb Keflezighi>people,  and  from  point  A  to  point  B,  from  Staten 

0:18:07.260 --> 0:18:10.080
<v Meb Keflezighi>Island  all  the  way  to  Central  Park.  It's  not  how 

0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.890
<v Meb Keflezighi>fast,  but  whatever  you  are  capable  of  doing,  no  gender 

0:18:13.890 --> 0:18:18.930
<v Meb Keflezighi>or  age or weight  or all those things, getting there to  the  finish  line,  and " run  to  win," 

0:18:18.930 --> 0:18:21.030
<v Meb Keflezighi>that's  what  it  is,  to  get  the  best  out  of 

0:18:21.030 --> 0:18:23.699
<v Meb Keflezighi>yourself.  So  when  I  started  that,  I  was  a  sophomore 

0:18:23.700 --> 0:18:26.190
<v Meb Keflezighi>in  high  school,  if  I  go  to  the  state  meet 

0:18:26.580 --> 0:18:29.520
<v Meb Keflezighi>and  I  finished  fifth  at  the  state  meet,  about  four 

0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.679
<v Meb Keflezighi>people  were  better  than  me,  that  I  really  have  a 

0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.020
<v Meb Keflezighi>place  to  complain,  because  if  I run  a  PR,  that's  the 

0:18:34.020 --> 0:18:36.570
<v Meb Keflezighi>fastest  time  I  ever  run.  Four  people  were  better  than 

0:18:36.570 --> 0:18:39.960
<v Meb Keflezighi>me,  then  that's  what " run  to  win"  is,  because  I 

0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.540
<v Meb Keflezighi>got  the  best  out  of  myself.
 And  how  you  can 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>apply  that  in  real  life  is,  we  are  some  of 

0:18:45.270 --> 0:18:47.670
<v Meb Keflezighi>our  parents,  we  want  to  be  a  good  example  to 

0:18:47.940 --> 0:18:50.880
<v Meb Keflezighi>kids,  make  sure  they  eat  the  right  nutrition,  make  sure 

0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.389
<v Meb Keflezighi>we  introduce  them  to  exercise,  because  we  know  like  New 

0:18:54.420 --> 0:18:58.290
<v Meb Keflezighi>York  City  marathons,  55,000  people  run  across  the  finish  line, 

0:18:58.650 --> 0:19:01.350
<v Meb Keflezighi>but  at  the  middle  school  or  high  school,  run  is 

0:19:01.350 --> 0:19:05.430
<v Meb Keflezighi>not  seen  as  a  positivity  or  it's, " Oh,  you're  late 

0:19:05.430 --> 0:19:07.830
<v Meb Keflezighi>for  basketball  or  you're  late  for  football,  give  me  a 

0:19:07.830 --> 0:19:10.710
<v Meb Keflezighi>lap."  It's  a  punishment.  But  we  know  that  in  real 

0:19:10.710 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Meb Keflezighi>life,  running  is  a  therapy,  running  is  for  the  head 

0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.980
<v Meb Keflezighi>and  mind  and  body,  is  huge.  So  to  be  able 

0:19:16.980 --> 0:19:20.490
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  do  that  in  an  example,  and  I try  to  be 

0:19:20.490 --> 0:19:23.100
<v Meb Keflezighi>a  good  parent  to  tell  my  kids  that, " Hey,  you 

0:19:23.100 --> 0:19:25.890
<v Meb Keflezighi>got  to  work  hard.  By  working  hard,  amazing  things  can 

0:19:25.890 --> 0:19:28.470
<v Meb Keflezighi>be  achieved."
 And  an  example  of  that  is  when  I 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>was  in  seventh  grade,  my  brother  got  the  most  outstanding 

0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.250
<v Meb Keflezighi>student  at  Roosevelt  Junior  High,  because  my  dad  woke  us 

0:19:35.250 --> 0:19:38.100
<v Meb Keflezighi>up  at  4: 30  AM  to  learn  English  as  a 

0:19:38.100 --> 0:19:40.410
<v Meb Keflezighi>dictionary.  And  then  my  oldest  brother  who  had  the  most 

0:19:40.410 --> 0:19:42.690
<v Meb Keflezighi>difficult,  imagine  yourself  going  to  ninth  grade  to  a  different 

0:19:42.690 --> 0:19:45.450
<v Meb Keflezighi>country  and  learning  the  English,  and  getting  the  most  outstanding 

0:19:45.450 --> 0:19:48.750
<v Meb Keflezighi>student.  There's  the  trophy  that  they  gave  us.  So  even 

0:19:48.750 --> 0:19:51.750
<v Meb Keflezighi>though  I  won  nationals  and  other  medals,  that  was  the 

0:19:51.750 --> 0:19:55.830
<v Meb Keflezighi>most  prominent  trophy  displayed  at  our  house  because  hard  work 

0:19:55.830 --> 0:19:58.740
<v Meb Keflezighi>does  pay  off.  And I think  that's  what  running  is.  And  the 

0:19:58.740 --> 0:20:01.139
<v Meb Keflezighi>New  Yorker  Road  Runners  has  done  an  amazing,  amazing  job, 

0:20:01.350 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Meb Keflezighi>not  only  for  me  but  for  runners  at  the  elite 

0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:05.909
<v Meb Keflezighi>level.
 In  fact,  the  New  Yorker  Road  Runners  used  to 

0:20:05.910 --> 0:20:09.750
<v Meb Keflezighi>give  to  the  Mammoth  Track  Club  or  Running  USA,  a 

0:20:09.750 --> 0:20:12.750
<v Meb Keflezighi>dollar  per  entry  to  help  us  support  to  make  sure 

0:20:12.750 --> 0:20:15.780
<v Meb Keflezighi>our  dreams  become  reality.  So  the  silver  medal,  the  winning 

0:20:15.780 --> 0:20:18.000
<v Meb Keflezighi>New  York  City  Marathon  or  Boston  Marathon  would  not  have 

0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.930
<v Meb Keflezighi>been  as  much  if  it  wasn't  for  the  stepping  out 

0:20:21.930 --> 0:20:24.390
<v Meb Keflezighi>for  the  New  Yorker  runs  to  help.  And  I  know 

0:20:24.450 --> 0:20:26.910
<v Meb Keflezighi>for  me  they've  been  a  big  part  of  my  journey. 

0:20:27.180 --> 0:20:31.470
<v Meb Keflezighi>In  fact,  2007,  when  the  trials  were  held  here,  my 

0:20:31.470 --> 0:20:33.510
<v Meb Keflezighi>goal  was  to  win  to  go  to  Beijing  and  win 

0:20:33.510 --> 0:20:35.550
<v Meb Keflezighi>a  medal  for  our  country,  after  the  silver  medal,  maybe 

0:20:35.550 --> 0:20:40.169
<v Meb Keflezighi>preferably  gold,  but  ran  amazing  there.  2: 06,  it  would 

0:20:40.170 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Meb Keflezighi>not  be  possible,  but  I  made  it  a  personal  goal 

0:20:42.630 --> 0:20:45.780
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  represent  the  United  States.  When  I  wear  that  USA 

0:20:45.780 --> 0:20:48.990
<v Meb Keflezighi>jersey  here in  Central  Park,  it  was  my  Olympic  because  I 

0:20:48.990 --> 0:20:51.810
<v Meb Keflezighi>said  I  can't  wait  four  years,  New  York  City  Marathon will be 

0:20:52.020 --> 0:20:54.690
<v Meb Keflezighi>my  Olympic,  that's  why  I  brought  the  medal.

0:20:57.570 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Oh,  Meb,  I've  never  seen  this  before.

0:20:59.760 --> 0:20:59.850
<v Becs Gentry>What?

0:20:59.850 --> 0:21:01.140
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>How  cool  is  that?

0:21:01.140 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Becs Gentry>Wow.

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:02.340
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>There  it  is. He's holding up his medal from-

0:21:02.341 --> 0:21:05.460
<v Meb Keflezighi>You can read what it  says  in  there.

0:21:05.460 --> 0:21:08.670
<v Becs Gentry>It  says, " If  you  can  make  it here,  you  can  make 

0:21:08.670 --> 0:21:11.130
<v Becs Gentry>it  anywhere.  New  York.  New  York."

0:21:11.550 --> 0:21:12.750
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Oh,  that's  amazing.

0:21:12.750 --> 0:21:12.810
<v Becs Gentry>Wow.

0:21:13.619 --> 0:21:14.609
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I've  never  seen  it,  that  this is his medal from his win.

0:21:14.609 --> 0:21:17.790
<v Becs Gentry>Is it me, or are they lighter these days.  That's  really  heavy.

0:21:17.790 --> 0:21:21.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>In  2009,  we'll  make  sure  folks  can  see  it  online. 

0:21:21.570 --> 0:21:23.609
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>By  the  way,  it's  a  beautiful  medal.  Actually  I  haven't 

0:21:23.609 --> 0:21:24.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>seen  this  medal  before.

0:21:24.570 --> 0:21:24.900
<v Becs Gentry>It's  stunning.

0:21:25.020 --> 0:21:29.460
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Gorgeous,  (inaudible) ...  What's  that?

0:21:29.670 --> 0:21:32.100
<v Meb Keflezighi>We are  an  historic  place,  so  to  be  able  to be a  New 

0:21:32.100 --> 0:21:33.991
<v Meb Keflezighi>York  City  Marathon  champion,  to  be  here, thank you  for  having  me.

0:21:33.991 --> 0:21:34.141
<v Becs Gentry>Wow.

0:21:34.770 --> 0:21:36.090
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thank  you  for  bringing  that,  that's  so cool.

0:21:36.090 --> 0:21:37.619
<v Becs Gentry>Thank you, Meb,  that's  so  cool.

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:42.300
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Meb,  we've  talked  so  much  over  the  years,  about  2009 

0:21:42.300 --> 0:21:44.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  the  year  you  won,  and  of  course  that  was 

0:21:44.730 --> 0:21:47.070
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  year  that  really  puts  you  so  much  on  the 

0:21:47.070 --> 0:21:49.440
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>map  here  in  New  York  and  lots  of  other  places. 

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.680
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>But  this  whole  idea  of  running  to  win  is  interesting 

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.169
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>because  you've  had  other  memorable,  he's  putting  the  medal  on. 

0:21:55.470 --> 0:21:56.160
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  love  it.

0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:57.061
<v Becs Gentry>Why  not?

0:21:57.061 --> 0:21:58.320
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Meb's putting  the  medal  on.

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:00.030
<v Becs Gentry>Wear  it  with  pride.

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<v Meb Keflezighi>It's  my  tie.

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:01.770
<v Becs Gentry>Yes.

0:22:02.670 --> 0:22:03.750
<v Meb Keflezighi>New  York's  my  tie.

0:22:04.859 --> 0:22:07.140
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Just  like  all  the  folks  walking  around  for  a  week 

0:22:07.140 --> 0:22:10.109
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>after  our  marathon  with  their  medals  on,  Meb's  wearing  his 

0:22:10.109 --> 0:22:12.119
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>years  later,  but  he  can  because  he  won  it.

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:13.168
<v Becs Gentry>Because  he  won  it.  Yeah.

0:22:13.169 --> 0:22:14.970
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  you can wear it  for  the  rest  of  your  life  when  you 

0:22:14.970 --> 0:22:20.639
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>won  it.  But Meb, in  2013,  you  had  another  really  memorable  New 

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.270
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  City  Marathon  experience,  which  we  haven't  really  talked  about 

0:22:24.540 --> 0:22:28.170
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  much,  a  different  kind  of  idea  of  winning.  You 

0:22:28.170 --> 0:22:31.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>crossed  the  finish  line  that  year,  hand- in- hand  with 

0:22:31.619 --> 0:22:35.820
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  local  elite  runner  named  Mike  Cassidy.  Can  you  tell 

0:22:35.820 --> 0:22:36.660
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>about  that  story?

0:22:37.500 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Meb Keflezighi>Absolutely.  At  Staten  Island,  just  as  we  were  boarding  the 

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:45.540
<v Meb Keflezighi>bus,  I  met  Mike  Cassidy,  a  doctor  introduced  us.  And 

0:22:45.540 --> 0:22:48.570
<v Meb Keflezighi>he's  a  local  guy,  and  I  was  silver  medal  and 

0:22:48.570 --> 0:22:51.090
<v Meb Keflezighi>he  says, " Hey,  nice  to  meet  you.  See  you at  the 

0:22:51.090 --> 0:22:55.379
<v Meb Keflezighi>finish  line."  But  I  was  not  training,  I  had  a 

0:22:55.380 --> 0:22:57.419
<v Meb Keflezighi>little  calf  strain,  but  I  was  healthy,  just  not  the 

0:22:57.420 --> 0:22:59.340
<v Meb Keflezighi>proper  training  to  get  me  to  that  finish  line  the 

0:22:59.340 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Meb Keflezighi>best  I  can.  But  as  most  of  you  know  that 

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.379
<v Meb Keflezighi>a  competitor  that  I  am,  once  the  gun  goes  off, 

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  want  to  be  as  competitive  as I  can,  and  mind 

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:11.340
<v Meb Keflezighi>over  body.  Right?
 And  then  about  going  five  minute  pace, 

0:23:11.340 --> 0:23:14.250
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  know  this  is  for  the  New  York  Runner  Marathon, 

0:23:14.490 --> 0:23:19.679
<v Meb Keflezighi>that's  211  pace  and  whatnot,  it's  just  we're  pushing  the 

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:24.090
<v Meb Keflezighi>pace  pretty  hard.  At  17,  and  I  have  a  certain 

0:23:24.090 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Meb Keflezighi>struggle,  and at  19  miles  I  remember  saying  my  body  lift 

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.350
<v Meb Keflezighi>their  right  leg  up,  next  try,  it  was  not  going 

0:23:31.350 --> 0:23:35.070
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  happen.  So  I  have  to  stop  and  think  about 

0:23:35.070 --> 0:23:37.919
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  Hurricane  Sandy,  in  2012  constellation,  and  think  about  the 

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:41.159
<v Meb Keflezighi>Boston  Marathon,  think  about  my  dad's  journey  from  Eritrea  to 

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.889
<v Meb Keflezighi>Sudan  where  he  has  to  walk  over  225  miles.  I 

0:23:43.890 --> 0:23:45.869
<v Meb Keflezighi>know  how  to  feel  to  win,  I  know  how  to 

0:23:45.869 --> 0:23:48.930
<v Meb Keflezighi>feel  to  be  up  in  the  front,  but  I  was 

0:23:48.930 --> 0:23:52.109
<v Meb Keflezighi>scared  that  the  sweep  van  or  the  bus is going  to  take 

0:23:52.109 --> 0:23:54.209
<v Meb Keflezighi>me  in,  but  I'm  thinking in  my  head,  how  can  I 

0:23:54.210 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Meb Keflezighi>convince  them?

0:23:55.109 --> 0:23:56.010
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Come  on,  Meb-

0:23:56.100 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Meb Keflezighi>Absolutely.

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:57.001
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>The  sweep  van?

0:23:57.001 --> 0:24:00.300
<v Meb Keflezighi>It was,  I  was  thinking,  how  am  I  going  to  tell 

0:24:00.300 --> 0:24:04.139
<v Meb Keflezighi>them  I'm  not going to go in because  I  am  determined  to get to that  finish  line.  So 

0:24:04.140 --> 0:24:06.990
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  bragged  about  my  five- minute  pace,  but  that  mile 19 to 

0:24:06.990 --> 0:24:11.790
<v Meb Keflezighi>20  was  9: 58.  It  took  me  twice  as  long 

0:24:11.790 --> 0:24:14.190
<v Meb Keflezighi>because  my  body  just  shut  down.  I  can't  go  anymore. 

0:24:14.190 --> 0:24:16.709
<v Meb Keflezighi>So  people  encouraged  me  to  keep  going,  keep  going.  I 

0:24:16.710 --> 0:24:22.230
<v Meb Keflezighi>tried.  But  then  Mike  Cassidy,  from  Staten  Island,  came  by 

0:24:22.230 --> 0:24:24.810
<v Meb Keflezighi>and  said, "We have 5k to  go,  come  on, Meb, you  can  go  with  me."  And 

0:24:24.810 --> 0:24:27.449
<v Meb Keflezighi>I'm  like, " I've  been  trying."  And  let  me  see,  he 

0:24:27.450 --> 0:24:29.070
<v Meb Keflezighi>got  in  front  of  me,  I  tried  to  draft  out 

0:24:29.130 --> 0:24:33.270
<v Meb Keflezighi>behind  him,  and  then  on  the  downhill  I  could  hold, 

0:24:33.270 --> 0:24:35.430
<v Meb Keflezighi>okay,  going  uphill.  You  know  how  Central  Park  is.
 It's 

0:24:35.430 --> 0:24:38.190
<v Meb Keflezighi>a  challenging,  but  we  encouraged  each  other,  we  support  each 

0:24:38.190 --> 0:24:41.430
<v Meb Keflezighi>other,  just  keep  pushing.  And  if he  really  wanted,  he  could 

0:24:41.430 --> 0:24:44.010
<v Meb Keflezighi>have  finished  the  race  way  ahead  of  me,  but  he 

0:24:44.010 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Meb Keflezighi>helped  me  get to  that  finish  line,  and  we  came  across 

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:50.100
<v Meb Keflezighi>holding  hand.  And  that's  what " run  to  win"  is  to 

0:24:50.100 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Meb Keflezighi>be  able  to  meet  people  and  be  able  to  just 

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Meb Keflezighi>cherish  it.  And  if  it  wasn't  for  him,  I  know 

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.010
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  wouldn't  have  finished.  In  fact,  I  talked  to  him 

0:24:56.010 --> 0:24:59.220
<v Meb Keflezighi>today,  the  friendship  that he  make  with  is  amazing.  He  was 

0:24:59.220 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Meb Keflezighi>going  to  try  to  make  it,  but  his  daughter  had 

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:02.609
<v Meb Keflezighi>a  fever  so  he  couldn't  make  it.
 But  I  tell 

0:25:02.609 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Meb Keflezighi>him  I  was  here,  and  those  are  the  friendship  that 

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:06.990
<v Meb Keflezighi>beyond  the  finish  line  that  you  make  and  be  able 

0:25:06.990 --> 0:25:10.350
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  just  cherish  what  the  camaraderie  of  sports  is.  And 

0:25:10.350 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  feel  blessed  to  be  able  to  come  across  the 

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.940
<v Meb Keflezighi>finish line.  And  he  wrote  a  beautiful  blog.  If  you  ever 

0:25:14.940 --> 0:25:18.090
<v Meb Keflezighi>get  a  chance,  Google  his  name,  and  he's  almost  running 

0:25:18.300 --> 0:25:20.129
<v Meb Keflezighi>in  a  plane  with  Michael  Jordan  is  what  he  says, "

0:25:20.310 --> 0:25:21.899
<v Meb Keflezighi>And  he  gave  me  the  last  shot  to  make  a 

0:25:21.900 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Meb Keflezighi>shoot,  and  I  sanked  it."  And  he  wrote  a  beautiful 

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Meb Keflezighi>blog,  it  went  viral.  And that's the  other  time  that  I  cried 

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.940
<v Meb Keflezighi>because  I  was  just running  a  full  on  runner,  not that it meant  so 

0:25:29.940 --> 0:25:31.949
<v Meb Keflezighi>much  to  him,  but  by  saying  that  it  meant  a 

0:25:31.949 --> 0:25:32.340
<v Meb Keflezighi>lot  to  me.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Wow.  That's  a  great  story.

0:25:33.541 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Becs Gentry>That's amazing.  Yeah.  Big  shout  out  to  Mike  Cassidy  right  there. 

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:42.659
<v Becs Gentry>Beautiful.  Meb,  let's  talk  about  running  now.  We  talk  a 

0:25:42.660 --> 0:25:46.290
<v Becs Gentry>lot  about  your...  You're  giving  me  a  nervous  smile.  He's  like, "

0:25:46.290 --> 0:25:47.250
<v Becs Gentry>Shut  up  Becs,  that's  not."

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:48.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Not  right  now,  not  right  now. Okay.

0:25:48.930 --> 0:25:52.050
<v Becs Gentry>Not  right  now,  we're not  going  to  run  right  now.  Maybe he 

0:25:52.230 --> 0:25:53.700
<v Becs Gentry>might  be  there  anytime  I  could  ever  beat  you  though 

0:25:53.700 --> 0:25:57.540
<v Becs Gentry>if  we  ran  now.  What  is  running like  for  you  now? 

0:25:57.540 --> 0:26:01.890
<v Becs Gentry>How  has  your  friendship  with  running  changed  since  you  have 

0:26:01.890 --> 0:26:05.340
<v Becs Gentry>stopped  competing  and  changed  your  routine?

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.060
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  love  to  run.  I  love  to  train.  I  think 

0:26:09.060 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  key  to  success  is  preparation,  and  I  did  that 

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:15.150
<v Meb Keflezighi>for  as  long  as  I  can.  And  I  was  42 

0:26:15.150 --> 0:26:17.970
<v Meb Keflezighi>years  old  when  I  retired  from  competitive,  doing  it  here 

0:26:18.420 --> 0:26:21.660
<v Meb Keflezighi>in  New  York  City  Marathon  2017, that was  my  last  marathon.  But 

0:26:21.660 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Meb Keflezighi>then you come through  the  phase  a  little  bit,  how  much  should  I 

0:26:24.450 --> 0:26:27.330
<v Meb Keflezighi>be  running?  And  should  I  run  eight  miles,  10  miles? 

0:26:27.330 --> 0:26:29.190
<v Meb Keflezighi>But  I'm  like,  I'm  not  getting  ready  for  anything,  why 

0:26:29.190 --> 0:26:31.889
<v Meb Keflezighi>am  I running  all  those  mileage?  So  I  almost  tweeted  even 

0:26:31.890 --> 0:26:34.530
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  ask  people,  the  everyday  athlete,  how  much  is  good 

0:26:34.530 --> 0:26:37.740
<v Meb Keflezighi>enough?  Because  I'm  on  that  side  now.
 But  for  me, 

0:26:37.740 --> 0:26:41.220
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  run  about  four,  maybe  five  or  six  miles  a 

0:26:41.220 --> 0:26:43.649
<v Meb Keflezighi>day.  I  run  about  four,  five  days  a  week.  If 

0:26:43.650 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Meb Keflezighi>I'm  healthy,  I  like  to  run  every  day.  It's  my 

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Meb Keflezighi>therapy.  You  enjoy  it.  But  at  the  same  time,  I 

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:52.139
<v Meb Keflezighi>love  the  endorphin  it  gives  you, it doesn't  have  to  go  20 

0:26:52.140 --> 0:26:54.150
<v Meb Keflezighi>miles  to  get  that  high,  but  it's  a  good  way 

0:26:54.150 --> 0:26:56.129
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  have  routine.  I  love  to  get  it  done  in 

0:26:56.130 --> 0:26:58.830
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  morning,  that's  how  I  love  morning  workouts,  get  up the 

0:26:58.950 --> 0:27:00.869
<v Meb Keflezighi>day  and  start  that  way  for  me.  So  it's  been 

0:27:01.109 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Meb Keflezighi>fun  to  be able  to  just,  I'm  not  worried  about the  long 

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.750
<v Meb Keflezighi>runs  or  intervals.
 Sometimes  you  get  the  itch  to  do 

0:27:06.750 --> 0:27:10.530
<v Meb Keflezighi>it,  but  just  some  people  say,  which  I  don't  agree 

0:27:10.530 --> 0:27:13.590
<v Meb Keflezighi>with,  people  say  running  is  boring  and  things  like that.  I  said, "

0:27:13.590 --> 0:27:16.470
<v Meb Keflezighi>No,  it's  not  boring,  just  predict  what  your  heart  rate 

0:27:16.470 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Meb Keflezighi>is  for  the  next  mile.  Just  predict  what  your  next 

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Meb Keflezighi>mile  split  will  be.  If  you  are  that  interactive  or 

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.629
<v Meb Keflezighi>in tune with  your  body."  So if  I  run,  I'm  like  eight,  10, 

0:27:24.630 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Meb Keflezighi>I'm  like, " I'm  feeling  good."  Or  if he  said, " Next  mile 

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:33.180
<v Meb Keflezighi>is  going  to  be 7:43, and it's 7:38 or  7: 35,"  I'm  pretty  good.  And 

0:27:33.180 --> 0:27:34.890
<v Meb Keflezighi>so  those  things  are  good  to  be  able  to  just 

0:27:34.890 --> 0:27:36.810
<v Meb Keflezighi>enjoy,  and  I  still  love  the  sport,  it's  done  so 

0:27:36.810 --> 0:27:40.260
<v Meb Keflezighi>much  for  me,  and  I'm  grateful to be able to be a ambassador for  New  Balance  as  well.

0:27:40.350 --> 0:27:44.580
<v Becs Gentry>Oh,  that's  so  lovely.  I  think  for  people,  our  listeners 

0:27:44.820 --> 0:27:46.500
<v Becs Gentry>in  here,  I'm  sure  there's  people  in  the  room  who 

0:27:46.500 --> 0:27:51.510
<v Becs Gentry>have  had  different  seasons  of  running.  It's  amazing  to  just 

0:27:51.510 --> 0:27:54.629
<v Becs Gentry>hear  that you  run  for  joy,  and  you  don't  think  about 

0:27:54.690 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Becs Gentry>the  numbers  per  se,  on  a  daily  basis,  on  a 

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.690
<v Becs Gentry>cumulative  basis.  It's  just  because  it  makes  you  feel  good 

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:01.619
<v Becs Gentry>in  Meb.

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Absolutely.  I  think  to  be  able  to  exercise  is a  way 

0:28:06.450 --> 0:28:09.150
<v Meb Keflezighi>of  habit,  it's  a  way  of  lifestyle.  We  all  know 

0:28:09.150 --> 0:28:12.179
<v Meb Keflezighi>that  55,000,  whether it is at  the  New  York  City  Marathon  or  the 

0:28:12.180 --> 0:28:14.940
<v Meb Keflezighi>Half  Marathon  or  many  other  things,  you  have  to  have a 

0:28:14.940 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Meb Keflezighi>routine  to  get  out  the  door.  Once  you  get  out 

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  door,  it  might  be  cold  weather  or  rainy  weather 

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.139
<v Meb Keflezighi>you  haven't  been  experiencing,  but  once  you  get  out  of 

0:28:22.140 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  door  you're  going  to  even  run more than  you  thought  because it 

0:28:24.900 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Meb Keflezighi>just  give  you  the  endorphin  and  the  commodity.  You  see 

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Meb Keflezighi>people  running,  you're  like, " Oh, I thought it was  the  only  crazy  one  that 

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.820
<v Meb Keflezighi>running.  But  there's  other  people  running  too."  So  it  gives 

0:28:32.820 --> 0:28:34.470
<v Meb Keflezighi>you  help  to  be  able  to  just  get  the  best 

0:28:34.470 --> 0:28:35.010
<v Meb Keflezighi>out  of  yourself.

0:28:35.010 --> 0:28:35.820
<v Becs Gentry>Sure  does.

0:28:36.210 --> 0:28:38.490
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>We  were  talking  before  we  came  up,  the  three  of 

0:28:38.490 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>us,  about  the  fact  that  between  us  there  are  six 

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:46.980
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>daughters  and  no  sons.  We  have  six  girls  between  the 

0:28:46.980 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>three  of  us,  Meb,  three,  two,  for  myself,  and  of 

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>course Becs has  Talullah.  And  when  we  talk  about  running  as  something 

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.490
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  is  part  of  your  life,  Meb,  there's  always  the 

0:28:59.820 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>desire  I  think  for  a  lot  of  runners,  especially  somebody 

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:05.580
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>who  ran  at  your  level,  to  pass  that  on  in 

0:29:05.580 --> 0:29:10.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>some  way,  and  finding  that  balance  between  maybe  encouraging,  passing 

0:29:10.590 --> 0:29:15.330
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it  on,  but  not  pressuring,  letting  kids  find  their  own 

0:29:15.330 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>way.  You  have  a  daughter  who's  a  soccer  player,  one 

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>who  at  least  is  a  runner,  I  know.  How  have 

0:29:21.930 --> 0:29:26.940
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  tried  to  walk  that  line  between  encouraging  them,  maybe 

0:29:26.940 --> 0:29:28.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>giving  them  a  little  sense  of  what  running  did  for 

0:29:28.890 --> 0:29:31.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  in  your  life  without,  I'm  sure  they  don't  think 

0:29:31.590 --> 0:29:33.330
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you're  a  big  deal  because  kids  never  think  their  parents 

0:29:33.330 --> 0:29:35.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>are  a  big  deal,  even  though  you're  a  pretty  big 

0:29:35.100 --> 0:29:38.820
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>deal.  But  how  have  you  managed  to  try  to  pass 

0:29:38.820 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  along  in  a  healthy  way?

0:29:40.860 --> 0:29:44.070
<v Meb Keflezighi>My  wife,  Yordanos,  and  she  comes  from  a  background  in 

0:29:44.070 --> 0:29:46.620
<v Meb Keflezighi>sports,  so  we  always  encourage  them  to  do  sports,  but 

0:29:46.830 --> 0:29:50.070
<v Meb Keflezighi>running  obviously  is  a  special  part  for  our,  she  ran 

0:29:50.070 --> 0:29:52.500
<v Meb Keflezighi>in  high  school,  I  ran  as  a  professional.  We  tried 

0:29:52.500 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  introduce  them  as  much  as  we  can,  but  at 

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.330
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  same  time  you  don't  want  to  put  pressure  on 

0:29:57.330 --> 0:30:00.390
<v Meb Keflezighi>them.  So  when  I  ran  in  San  Diego,  they  used 

0:30:00.390 --> 0:30:02.670
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  come  and  run  with  me, " Hey,  I  want  to 

0:30:02.670 --> 0:30:05.729
<v Meb Keflezighi>go to this  school,  which is 0.7  miles,  so  let's  go  jog  to  the 

0:30:05.730 --> 0:30:07.530
<v Meb Keflezighi>school  and  back."  So  they'd  be  able  to  do  those 

0:30:07.530 --> 0:30:10.110
<v Meb Keflezighi>things,  or  sometimes  they  would  think  on  their  own.  They're  like, "

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.930
<v Meb Keflezighi>Dad,  is  it okay if I  go  to  the  school  and  back?"  I'm  like, "

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Meb Keflezighi>That's  good.  Yeah,  you  should  do  it."
 But  sometimes  at 

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  same  time,  I  want  them  to  have  their  own 

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:23.700
<v Meb Keflezighi>life,  and  soccer  is  interest,  a  passion  of  ours,  but at 

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.910
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  same  time  they  love  to  exercise,  which  is  a 

0:30:26.910 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Meb Keflezighi>great  thing,  but  routine  is  important.  It's  like, " Hey,  you want to do 

0:30:30.300 --> 0:30:32.730
<v Meb Keflezighi>sit-ups, you want to do  the  gym  or  you  want  to  do  push- ups 

0:30:32.730 --> 0:30:34.950
<v Meb Keflezighi>and  things  like that.  I  had  a  time  when  I  was, 

0:30:35.100 --> 0:30:37.170
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  used  to  put  them  on  my  back  to  do 

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.890
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  push- ups.  So  as  long,  the  stretching,  the  nutrition, 

0:30:41.010 --> 0:30:43.260
<v Meb Keflezighi>those  are  good  habits  to  pass  on  to,  and  then 

0:30:43.260 --> 0:30:46.050
<v Meb Keflezighi>hopefully  they  can  take  it  up.  Yes,  sometimes  I'm  a 

0:30:46.050 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Meb Keflezighi>dad  and  they  don't  listen  to  it,  but  hopefully  friends  say, "

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:49.860
<v Meb Keflezighi>Oh,  it's  cool."

0:30:51.150 --> 0:30:51.601
<v Becs Gentry>I  think  they must.

0:30:51.601 --> 0:30:56.370
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All right,  Meb,  can  we  maybe  bring  you  back  to  the 

0:30:56.370 --> 0:30:59.459
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>interviewing  side  of  this  podcast  because  we  thought  it'd  be 

0:30:59.460 --> 0:31:00.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>fun  to  kind  of  do  a  little  bit  of  a 

0:31:00.780 --> 0:31:03.540
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>trifecta  here.  So  we  interviewed  you  and  now Becs,  we  want 

0:31:03.540 --> 0:31:06.180
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  turn  the  tables  and  ask  you  a  few  questions 

0:31:06.330 --> 0:31:08.580
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>about  what's  going  on  with  you. Meb, you  want  to  join  me? You want to 

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:09.210
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>do  that?

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:10.020
<v Meb Keflezighi>Yeah,  let's  do  it.

0:31:10.590 --> 0:31:12.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Let's  grill  her,  let's  ask  us  some  really  hard  questions. 

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  mean,  Becs,  obviously  you  all  know  what  Becs  did 

0:31:15.900 --> 0:31:19.770
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>last  November.  You  know  that  she  ran  seven  marathons  on 

0:31:19.770 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>seven  continents  in  seven  days,  which  I  will  never  get 

0:31:27.660 --> 0:31:33.180
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>my  head  around,  to  be  honest.  Looking,  I  mean  listen, 

0:31:33.180 --> 0:31:35.730
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it's  been  what,  six  months  or  so  since  you  did  that?

0:31:35.730 --> 0:31:36.060
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:41.220
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Have  you  gotten  to  a  point  yet  where  you  have 

0:31:41.220 --> 0:31:46.350
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>put  that  in  perspective,  what  you  actually  did?  I  would 

0:31:46.350 --> 0:31:48.300
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>think  at  some  point  it  would  seem  as  crazy  to 

0:31:48.300 --> 0:31:50.370
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you,  as  it  does  to  me  that  you  did  that 

0:31:50.370 --> 0:31:54.090
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>even  though  you  did  it.  How  do  you  reflect  on 

0:31:54.090 --> 0:31:55.410
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  six  months  later?

0:31:55.710 --> 0:31:59.220
<v Becs Gentry>Honestly,  it  sounds  really  bizarre  to  say  I  don't  think 

0:31:59.220 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Becs Gentry>I  have  still  fully  processed  it,  and  you're  all  probably  like, "

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:06.180
<v Becs Gentry>Okay,  come  on  woman."  But  there  are  days  when,  yeah, 

0:32:06.180 --> 0:32:10.020
<v Becs Gentry>I'm  like, " Wow,  I  did  that." Or  I  see  the  medal, 

0:32:10.020 --> 0:32:12.750
<v Becs Gentry>it's  by  my  Tread,  and  what  medals,  many  of  them. 

0:32:12.750 --> 0:32:13.830
<v Becs Gentry>But  the  big  one  I'm  like, " Wow."

0:32:14.130 --> 0:32:15.510
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>How  many  medals  do  you  get  for  that,  by  the 

0:32:15.510 --> 0:32:17.969
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>way? Seven? You got at least one for  all  of  them?

0:32:17.970 --> 0:32:21.810
<v Becs Gentry>One  for  each  race.  One  big  one  for  completing  the 

0:32:21.810 --> 0:32:24.330
<v Becs Gentry>race,  and  then  one  for  the  Global  Marathon  club.  So 

0:32:24.330 --> 0:32:28.110
<v Becs Gentry>nine  in  total,  which  was  heavy  by  the  end.  I 

0:32:28.110 --> 0:32:33.420
<v Becs Gentry>was  like...  But  it  was,  yeah,  it's  going  to  take 

0:32:33.420 --> 0:32:35.370
<v Becs Gentry>a  while.  It  really  is  going  to  take  a  while. 

0:32:35.370 --> 0:32:37.979
<v Becs Gentry>But  I  will  tell  you  one  thing  that  actually  came 

0:32:37.980 --> 0:32:42.060
<v Becs Gentry>out  today  a  little in  my  mentality,  is  it's  really  taught 

0:32:42.060 --> 0:32:45.060
<v Becs Gentry>me  so  much  about  who  I  am  and  how  I 

0:32:45.060 --> 0:32:49.770
<v Becs Gentry>run.  And  I  got  sidetracked  this  morning.  Our  studios  are 

0:32:49.770 --> 0:32:52.530
<v Becs Gentry>closed  at  Peloton  right  now  for  maintenance,  so  it's  fantastic. 

0:32:52.950 --> 0:32:55.229
<v Becs Gentry>And  I  got  to  go  on  a  field  trip  with 

0:32:55.230 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Becs Gentry>Tallulah,  which  I've  never  done,  her  school.  We  went  to 

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Becs Gentry>the  firehouse,  which  was  so  much  fun.
 And  I  was 

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.540
<v Becs Gentry>in  my  running  kit,  I  looked  stupid,  I'm  in  my 

0:33:04.590 --> 0:33:09.060
<v Becs Gentry>other  brand  shoes.  And  I'm  walking  along  with  these  tiny 

0:33:09.060 --> 0:33:11.700
<v Becs Gentry>toddlers  thinking  like, " Oh,  my  gosh,  I  should  be  doing 

0:33:11.700 --> 0:33:15.300
<v Becs Gentry>my  speed  workout  today  for  training."  But  I  didn't  care 

0:33:15.450 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Becs Gentry>because  past  me  would've  been  so  worried  about  doing  the 

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:22.380
<v Becs Gentry>morning  workout  because  I  know  I'm  terrible  afternoon,  I'm  terrible 

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.780
<v Becs Gentry>at  training  in  the  afternoon,  especially  for  a  speed  workout. 

0:33:25.230 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Becs Gentry>But  then  that  mentality  kicked  in  of  like, " Dude,  shut 

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.810
<v Becs Gentry>up.  You  ran  around  the  world,  you  had  no  idea 

0:33:30.810 --> 0:33:33.510
<v Becs Gentry>what  time  was  for  seven  days,  and  you  ran  some 

0:33:33.780 --> 0:33:37.260
<v Becs Gentry>pretty  quick  marathons,  so  you  can  do  an  hour's  speed 

0:33:37.260 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Becs Gentry>training  whenever  you're  done  with  your  daughter."  So  that  was 

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.091
<v Becs Gentry>nice  to  be  like, "Yeah,  all  right,  I'm  tougher  than  I  think."

0:33:42.091 --> 0:33:45.961
<v Meb Keflezighi>Enjoying  the  moment  with  family  is  important.

0:33:45.961 --> 0:33:46.651
<v Becs Gentry>Way more important.

0:33:47.130 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Meb Keflezighi>Priceless  moments.

0:33:48.270 --> 0:33:48.780
<v Becs Gentry>Yes.

0:33:49.230 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Meb Keflezighi>But  talking  about  hard,  when  you  are  not  teaching  and 

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Meb Keflezighi>it's  hard,  how  do  you  keep  it  fun  when  the 

0:33:55.440 --> 0:34:00.421
<v Meb Keflezighi>miles  get  monotonous?  Like  this  afternoon.

0:34:00.421 --> 0:34:03.330
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah. I mean, this afternoon.  I'm  a  big  proponent  of  listening  to  podcasts.  I 

0:34:03.330 --> 0:34:05.910
<v Becs Gentry>listen  to  our  podcasts.  I  do  listen  to  it  back 

0:34:05.910 --> 0:34:08.790
<v Becs Gentry>and  check  that  we're  not  going  off  kilter  too  much. 

0:34:09.630 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Becs Gentry>I  listen  to  a  lot  of  other  podcasts.  Also,  if 

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.330
<v Becs Gentry>I'm  on  my  Peloton  Tread,  I  do  like  to  take 

0:34:15.330 --> 0:34:19.529
<v Becs Gentry>my  friends'  classes  or  watch  a  new  TV  show,  something 

0:34:19.530 --> 0:34:21.150
<v Becs Gentry>that  Austin  doesn't  want  to  sit  on  the  sofa  and 

0:34:21.150 --> 0:34:25.109
<v Becs Gentry>watch  with  me.  It's  my  time,  but  it's  also  me 

0:34:25.110 --> 0:34:28.049
<v Becs Gentry>time.  I  think  especially  living  in  a  big  city,  it's 

0:34:28.050 --> 0:34:31.860
<v Becs Gentry>very  hard  to  have  personal  time  by  yourself.  And  as 

0:34:31.860 --> 0:34:34.260
<v Becs Gentry>much  as I  love  running  with  other  people  in  communities  and 

0:34:34.260 --> 0:34:38.100
<v Becs Gentry>in  groups,  as  somebody  who  is  public- facing  all  the 

0:34:38.100 --> 0:34:40.620
<v Becs Gentry>time,  somebody  who  is  a  mom,  lives  in  New  York 

0:34:40.620 --> 0:34:44.370
<v Becs Gentry>City,  my  runs  sometimes  even  when  they're  really  tough,  I'm  like, "

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.820
<v Becs Gentry>I'm  by  myself.  This is  fantastic.  No  one  can  get  to  me."

0:34:49.260 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Having  a  little  kid  will  do  that  to  you.  Any 

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.149
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>quiet  time  is  great  time.  No  matter  what's  going  on, 

0:34:54.150 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you're  alone.  No  one  is  crying,  no  one  asks  for 

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.060
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>their  whatever  to  be  changed  or  something  new.  So  I 

0:35:00.060 --> 0:35:03.510
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>get  that.  I'm  curious,  when  you  go  around,  we  all 

0:35:03.510 --> 0:35:06.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>go  around,  we  have  social  situations  where  maybe  it  comes 

0:35:06.450 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  that  we're  a  runner.  Maybe  it  comes  up  that 

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we  ran  a  marathon.  You  might  mention,  yeah,  I  ran 

0:35:10.890 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York,  I  ran  Berlin,  whatever.  When  it  just  comes 

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.770
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  in  a  social  setting  for  you  that  you  ran 

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.700
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>seven  marathons  on  seven  continents  in  seven  days.  For  someone 

0:35:20.700 --> 0:35:23.850
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>who  doesn't  know  that,  what  kind  of  reactions  do  you 

0:35:23.850 --> 0:35:27.630
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>get  from  people?  What's  the  funniest,  craziest  reaction  anyone's  given 

0:35:27.630 --> 0:35:29.760
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  when  they  learn  this  about  you?

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.370
<v Becs Gentry>Why?  They're  like, " Why  would  you  do  that?"

0:35:32.940 --> 0:35:34.261
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>The  obvious  question  is  the  why?

0:35:34.261 --> 0:35:36.540
<v Becs Gentry>" Would  you  do  that?  Why  would  you  want  to 

0:35:36.540 --> 0:35:41.460
<v Becs Gentry>do  that? How?" A lot of people  think  I  jumped  on  a  Delta  flight  between 

0:35:41.460 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Becs Gentry>each, and they're  like, " Yeah,  that's  not  possible."  I'm  like, " That's  not 

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:45.630
<v Becs Gentry>how  we  did  it."

0:35:45.989 --> 0:35:48.661
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  connected  in  Atlanta.  Yeah, that would be hard to do.

0:35:48.661 --> 0:35:53.190
<v Becs Gentry>"I  have  status,  so  I  got  through."  No,  it's  the 

0:35:53.190 --> 0:35:56.340
<v Becs Gentry>why?  And  honestly,  I  know  it  may  not  seem  it, 

0:35:56.340 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Becs Gentry>but  I  am  a  very  introverted  extrovert.  I  don't  like 

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.810
<v Becs Gentry>to  talk  about  my  achievements  and  my  accomplishments.  I  don't 

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Becs Gentry>walk  into  the  room  with  that  like, " It's  me.  Look 

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Becs Gentry>what  I  did. Ha- ha."  It's  normally  Austin  who  will  big 

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Becs Gentry>me  up,  or  other  people.  Or  somebody  else  will  be  like, "

0:36:14.219 --> 0:36:16.950
<v Becs Gentry>Aren't  you  the  one  who  did  that  really  weird  race?" And I'm like, "

0:36:17.190 --> 0:36:18.510
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah,  that's  probably  me."

0:36:18.540 --> 0:36:21.029
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  what do you say?  What's  your  answer  to  the  why,  when  they 

0:36:21.030 --> 0:36:21.540
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>ask  you  that?

0:36:21.540 --> 0:36:22.860
<v Becs Gentry>Because  I  needed  some  downtime.

0:36:22.860 --> 0:36:23.070
<v Meb Keflezighi>What  is  it?

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Becs Gentry>I  needed  some  downtime.  I  needed  to  fill  my  cup.

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:32.250
<v Meb Keflezighi>Downtime,  seven  days,  seven  marathons and seven  continents.

0:36:32.250 --> 0:36:36.090
<v Becs Gentry>I  needed  to fill my cup. Yeah.  I  had  to  do  it  to  rediscover 

0:36:36.090 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Becs Gentry>who  I  was,  and  it  worked  very  well.

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.190
<v Meb Keflezighi>That's  interesting  because  I've  been  asked  to  do  it,  and 

0:36:41.190 --> 0:36:43.980
<v Meb Keflezighi>I'm really  trying  to  find  my  why,  because  I  love  to 

0:36:43.980 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Meb Keflezighi>travel,  but  it's  just  the  seven  days  kind  of  threw 

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Meb Keflezighi>me  off  because I mean  the  recovery,  the  soreness  and  all  that  stuff.

0:36:52.170 --> 0:36:55.140
<v Becs Gentry>I  never  got  sore,  Meb.  I  never  got  sore.  I know, 

0:36:55.590 --> 0:36:57.900
<v Becs Gentry>I  think  I  should  get  tested  for  lack  of  lactic 

0:36:57.900 --> 0:37:01.410
<v Becs Gentry>acid  or  something.  Make  me  do  a  pushup  and  I'll 

0:37:01.410 --> 0:37:04.650
<v Becs Gentry>be  sore  for  a  week.  But  yeah,  that's  the  why. 

0:37:04.770 --> 0:37:05.580
<v Becs Gentry>That's  the  why.

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Meb Keflezighi>So we  talk  about  seven  continents,  seven  marathons,  seven  days.  What 

0:37:09.660 --> 0:37:14.250
<v Meb Keflezighi>about  the 26.2?  I  love  that  distance  personally,  but  how  do 

0:37:14.250 --> 0:37:18.989
<v Meb Keflezighi>you  convince  or  tell  people  that  are  not  marathoners  or  26.

0:37:18.989 --> 0:37:22.650
<v Meb Keflezighi>2  runners  to  make  the  magic,  the  finish  line?

0:37:24.090 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Becs Gentry>Honestly, this is  going  to  sound  terrible.  I  don't.  I  let  them 

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:28.230
<v Becs Gentry>decide  to  do  it.

0:37:28.230 --> 0:37:28.650
<v Meb Keflezighi>That's  good.

0:37:29.130 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Becs Gentry>Because  you  can't  force  people  to  do  it.  You've  got 

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.350
<v Becs Gentry>to  feel  the  pull  to  want  to  do  it  for 

0:37:34.350 --> 0:37:37.830
<v Becs Gentry>yourself.  I  will  share  my  stories.  I  will  share  my 

0:37:37.830 --> 0:37:42.540
<v Becs Gentry>journey,  and  my  adventure  on  each  and  every  different  26.

0:37:42.540 --> 0:37:45.570
<v Becs Gentry>2  I've  ever  embarked  on.  And  if  somebody  is  compelled 

0:37:45.630 --> 0:37:48.779
<v Becs Gentry>to  sign  up  and  put  themselves  on  that  journey,  then 

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:52.020
<v Becs Gentry>fantastic.  But  I'm  not  a  pusher.  I'll  be  there  to 

0:37:52.020 --> 0:37:53.969
<v Becs Gentry>cheer  you  if  you  want  to  do  it.  If  not, 

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.790
<v Becs Gentry>I  don't  know,  cycling's  your  thing,  great,  just  move.

0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:58.891
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  the  way  to  do  it,  because nobody has to run a marathon.

0:37:58.890 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Meb Keflezighi>Because,  no,  when  you get  on  mile  17,  they  want  to 

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:04.171
<v Meb Keflezighi>be  cursing  you.  Right?  They could be like-

0:38:04.171 --> 0:38:08.070
<v Becs Gentry>Exactly. Karma.  I  believe  in  karma.  I  don't  need  that.

0:38:08.910 --> 0:38:12.690
<v Meb Keflezighi>Also  as a coach.  I  just  tell  people, " I  can  help  you 

0:38:12.690 --> 0:38:14.730
<v Meb Keflezighi>get  the  best  out  of  yourself.  But  it's  hard  for 

0:38:14.730 --> 0:38:16.410
<v Meb Keflezighi>me  to  see,  go  down  the  street,  it  says,  I 

0:38:16.410 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Meb Keflezighi>think  you  should  do  a  marathon."  But  once  they  have 

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.780
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  love for 5k,  10k,  half- marathon,  then  they  want  to  challenge 

0:38:21.780 --> 0:38:23.580
<v Meb Keflezighi>themselves  to  get  to  that  level.

0:38:23.700 --> 0:38:24.450
<v Becs Gentry>Exactly.

0:38:26.010 --> 0:38:27.299
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  comes  from  inside.  Yep.  All  right, so apparently-

0:38:27.900 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Becs Gentry>We've  talked  enough  about  me.  We've  talked  enough  about  Meb. 

0:38:30.540 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Becs Gentry>Let's  talk  about  getting  the  best  out  of  yourself,  and 

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.989
<v Becs Gentry>that  is  we  are  now  going  to  ask  this  guy, 

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.739
<v Becs Gentry>the  CEO  of  New  York  Road  Runners  a  few  questions  ourselves.

0:38:41.489 --> 0:38:41.670
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Bring it on, Becs.

0:38:41.670 --> 0:38:41.730
<v Becs Gentry>Yay.

0:38:43.530 --> 0:38:46.110
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>We've done  this  before.  She  always  asks  very  difficult  questions,  but 

0:38:46.110 --> 0:38:46.950
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I'm  going  to  do  my  best.

0:38:46.950 --> 0:38:49.140
<v Becs Gentry>It's  not going to be  the  interrogation  that  we  started  the  year  with, 

0:38:49.260 --> 0:38:52.739
<v Becs Gentry>don't  worry.  Rob,  I  want  to  know,  New  York  Road 

0:38:52.739 --> 0:38:58.350
<v Becs Gentry>Runners  is  a  name,  a  force,  a  wonderful,  wonderful  place 

0:38:58.380 --> 0:39:01.230
<v Becs Gentry>to  be.  What  are  some  of  the  biggest  things  you 

0:39:01.230 --> 0:39:03.690
<v Becs Gentry>have  learned  about  yourself  since  you've  been  in  the  role 

0:39:03.690 --> 0:39:04.350
<v Becs Gentry>as  CEO?

0:39:06.870 --> 0:39:10.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thank  you.  New  York  Road  Runners  is  an  incredible  place 

0:39:10.890 --> 0:39:14.580
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  work.  All  of  us  who  work  here  are  so 

0:39:14.580 --> 0:39:17.730
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>fortunate  to  have  this  as  what  we  do  every  day. 

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  think  I  had  worked  in  sports  for  most  of 

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:26.219
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>my  career,  mostly  on  the  corporate  side.  I'd  worked at ESPN  and 

0:39:26.310 --> 0:39:30.030
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>NBC  Sports,  and  I  loved  it.  I  loved  working  in 

0:39:30.030 --> 0:39:35.850
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>those  places.  I  think  having  a  job  where  you  can 

0:39:35.850 --> 0:39:39.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>honestly  get  up  and  realize  that  you're  changing  people's  lives 

0:39:39.450 --> 0:39:42.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>every  day,  I  had  never  really  had  that  before.  That 

0:39:42.989 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  why  I  came  here,  and  I  thought  it  would 

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>be  good  and  different.  It's  even  better  than  I  thought 

0:39:48.780 --> 0:39:53.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it  would  be.
 I  can't  say  how  great  it  is 

0:39:53.190 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  be  able  to  wake  up  every  day  and  know 

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.500
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  the  work  you're  doing  is  changing  lives.  And  not 

0:39:58.500 --> 0:40:02.670
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  theoretically,  you  don't  just  know  you're  changing  lives  out 

0:40:02.670 --> 0:40:05.730
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>there  somewhere  in  the  world  far  away  or  whatever.  You 

0:40:05.730 --> 0:40:08.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>see  these  people,  you  see  them.  I  mean  some  of 

0:40:08.250 --> 0:40:09.779
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>them  are  sitting  right  in  front  of  me  right  now. 

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  know  that  in  this  audience  right  now,  there  are 

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:16.290
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>people  whose  lives  have  been  changed  one  way  or  another, 

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:18.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>from  running.  I  see  them  at  the  finish  line  of 

0:40:18.570 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>races.  I  see  them  all  the  time.  So  that's  an 

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.500
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>incredible  gift  to  be  able  to  have  that.  I  think 

0:40:25.500 --> 0:40:29.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>what  I've  learned  about  myself  is  how  energizing  that  is 

0:40:29.100 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  me  to  be  able  to  have  that  as  my 

0:40:33.330 --> 0:40:36.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>GAOB,  as  they  say,  every  single  day.  So  it's  pretty  cool.

0:40:37.140 --> 0:40:37.620
<v Becs Gentry>That's  really cool.

0:40:37.830 --> 0:40:40.590
<v Meb Keflezighi>It  is  cool  to  be  able  to  be  interacting  with 

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:44.250
<v Meb Keflezighi>people  as  you  travel  around,  but  what  do  you  feel 

0:40:44.250 --> 0:40:46.710
<v Meb Keflezighi>is  the  most  proudest  that  you  have  accomplished  in  the 

0:40:46.710 --> 0:40:50.009
<v Meb Keflezighi>last  two  years  that  you've  been  leading  the  New York  Road  Runners?

0:40:50.190 --> 0:40:52.140
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  that's  a  hard  one.

0:40:52.830 --> 0:40:53.969
<v Meb Keflezighi>So  many,  I'm  pretty  sure.

0:40:55.110 --> 0:40:57.149
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>We've  got  so  many  great  things  going  on  right  now. 

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  really  difficult  to  say  one  thing.  I  guess  the 

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:05.850
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thing  I  might  point  to  is  what's  going  on  with 

0:41:05.850 --> 0:41:08.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  kids  right  now,  and  the  kids  programs  that  we 

0:41:08.250 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>have,  because  I  really  think  that's  the  heart  and  soul 

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.090
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  what  our  organization  is.  It's  not  what  gets  the 

0:41:15.090 --> 0:41:19.620
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>headlines,  it's  not  what  people  are  maybe  talking  about  or 

0:41:19.620 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>signing  up  for.  All  of  our  races  with  our  adults 

0:41:22.830 --> 0:41:25.830
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>right  up  into  the  marathon  are  incredibly  special,  and  frankly, 

0:41:26.130 --> 0:41:27.690
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>they  would  allow  us  to  do  what  we  do  with 

0:41:27.690 --> 0:41:32.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  kids.  But  we  had  over 200, 000  kids  in  New 

0:41:32.310 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  City  public  schools  in  our  Rising  New  York  Road 

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.739
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Runners  program  this  year.  That's  happening  right  now.

0:41:39.930 --> 0:41:40.350
<v Becs Gentry>Huge.

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.469
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  the  biggest  number  of  kids  we've  had  in  that 

0:41:43.469 --> 0:41:47.010
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>program  since  the  pandemic.  We  started  a  new  middle  school 

0:41:47.010 --> 0:41:50.550
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>running  program  this  year,  and  at  our  race,  actually,  I 

0:41:50.550 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>haven't  told  this  story  to  anybody  yet,  at  our  Run as 

0:41:53.130 --> 0:41:56.610
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>One  race  this  past  Sunday  at  the  finish  line,  I 

0:41:56.610 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>give  out  the  high- fives  as  I  do  at  all 

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.870
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  finish  lines,  and  a  woman  fist  bumped  me  and 

0:42:00.870 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>she  was  a  teacher  at  one  of  the  middle  schools 

0:42:03.900 --> 0:42:06.270
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>where  this  program  is  happening.  I  haven't  had  a  chance 

0:42:06.270 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  really  visit  any  of  these  schools  yet.
 I  know 

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  we've  got  lots  of  kids  doing  it,  and  this 

0:42:11.310 --> 0:42:12.870
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>teacher  comes  up  to me  and  she's  like, " I  just  want 

0:42:12.870 --> 0:42:16.230
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  to  know  this  program  is  amazing.  Our  kids  love 

0:42:16.230 --> 0:42:19.500
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it.  They're  getting  so  much  out  of  it."  And  so 

0:42:19.830 --> 0:42:23.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>when  I  meet  people  like  that,  teachers  who  tell  me 

0:42:23.370 --> 0:42:26.340
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  it's  helping  them  do  their  jobs  better,  and  they've 

0:42:26.340 --> 0:42:28.980
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>got  really  hard  jobs  to  do,  and  that  job's  getting 

0:42:28.980 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>harder  and  harder  these  days  with  budget  cuts  and  the 

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.489
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>challenges  of  being  a  teacher  with  young  people,  that  is 

0:42:35.489 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>incredible.  So  I  think,  for  me,  that  would  be  the 

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thing  I'm  most  proud  of.  And  I  think  we're  really 

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.770
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  getting  started  with  a  lot  of  these  programs  that 

0:42:43.770 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we're  building  and  looking  for  new  areas  to  go  into. 

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:50.191
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>But  I  think  that's  what  I  feel  best  about  right  now.

0:42:50.190 --> 0:42:50.192
<v Becs Gentry>Yes.

0:42:50.191 --> 0:42:53.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All right,  so  we're  going  to do  a  little  lightning  round  here, and 

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  wrap  up  before  we  bring  out  our  member.

0:42:55.770 --> 0:42:55.771
<v Becs Gentry>We love this.

0:42:55.771 --> 0:42:58.020
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>To  talk  about,  each  of  us  is  going  to  give 

0:42:58.020 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  quick  answer  to  this  question.  Okay.  So  the  first 

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.790
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  is,  what's  the  best  running  advice  you'd  give  to 

0:43:02.790 --> 0:43:04.800
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  daughter,  Becs?

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Becs Gentry>Slow  down.

0:43:07.530 --> 0:43:09.210
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>She  goes  a  little  too  fast  out  of  the  gate?

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Becs Gentry>A  little  too  fast.

0:43:10.140 --> 0:43:10.739
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  they  do  that.

0:43:10.739 --> 0:43:11.670
<v Becs Gentry>Covered  in  cuts  and  bruises.

0:43:11.670 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>They  do  that  at  two.  That's  what  they  do.  Yeah. 

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:15.359
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Becs,  sorry,  Med.

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.860
<v Meb Keflezighi>Discipline.  Be  able  to  just  tie  your  shoes  and  plan 

0:43:19.860 --> 0:43:20.940
<v Meb Keflezighi>for when  are  you  going  to  run.

0:43:20.940 --> 0:43:22.470
<v Becs Gentry>Love  that.

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:27.330
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  love  it.  Mine  would  be,  just  start.  Just  got 

0:43:27.330 --> 0:43:30.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  start.  I  mean,  my  oldest  daughter  runs  cross  country. 

0:43:30.989 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>She  started,  my  little  one  runs  a  little  bit,  but 

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.629
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  hardest  part  about  any  run  is  the  start,  always. 

0:43:36.630 --> 0:43:38.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  you  just  got  to  get  going.  Just  take  a 

0:43:38.310 --> 0:43:41.940
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>first  step.  Okay.  What's  the  best  life  advice that you would  give  to 

0:43:41.940 --> 0:43:44.011
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  daughters,  Meb?

0:43:44.011 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Meb Keflezighi>I tell them it  is  progress.  There's  no  shortcuts  in  life,  and  one 

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:53.250
<v Meb Keflezighi>mile  becomes  5k, 5k  becomes  a  marathon  or  a  half- marathon. 

0:43:53.370 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Meb Keflezighi>And in  life  you  got to go  through  elementary,  junior  high,  middle  school. 

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.700
<v Meb Keflezighi>So  we'll  make  mistakes,  but  just  make  progress  in  the 

0:43:59.700 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Meb Keflezighi>right  direction.

0:44:04.140 --> 0:44:07.020
<v Becs Gentry>Believe  you  can. Believe you can  and  try.  That's  for  sure.

0:44:07.140 --> 0:44:10.109
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>A  hundred  percent.  I  always  say  in  our  family  there's 

0:44:10.110 --> 0:44:14.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  rule  which  is,  don't  give  up.  You've  got  to 

0:44:14.310 --> 0:44:17.760
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>keep  going.  You've  got  to  keep  trying.  Just  don't  give 

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:21.299
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  until  whatever  you've  done  is  done,  but  you've  got 

0:44:21.300 --> 0:44:22.020
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  keep  going.

0:44:22.260 --> 0:44:23.250
<v Meb Keflezighi>Got  to  finish  the  project.

0:44:23.489 --> 0:44:25.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  one  of  the  great  things  about  running.  The  metaphors 

0:44:25.890 --> 0:44:30.270
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>are  endless.  The  life  metaphors  are  literally  endless.  Okay.  What 

0:44:30.270 --> 0:44:32.670
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  your  favorite  distance  to  run, Becs?

0:44:33.930 --> 0:44:35.549
<v Becs Gentry>I  mean,  really?

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:37.620
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Is  it  obvious?  Is it  26.2?

0:44:38.190 --> 0:44:41.550
<v Becs Gentry>26. 2.  I  mean, I  don't  actually  enjoy  doing  it  that 

0:44:41.550 --> 0:44:43.230
<v Becs Gentry>much.  It's  painful.

0:44:43.230 --> 0:44:45.030
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So,  what do you like to run?  What's  your  favorite distance?

0:44:45.210 --> 0:44:48.210
<v Becs Gentry>Literally,  if  I  could  just  run  eight  miles.

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:50.010
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  I  love  that kind of distance.

0:44:50.009 --> 0:44:50.011
<v Becs Gentry>Joyful

0:44:50.010 --> 0:44:50.101
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Meb?

0:44:51.780 --> 0:44:53.850
<v Meb Keflezighi>It  all  depends  on  the  shape  you're  in,  but  if 

0:44:53.850 --> 0:44:55.620
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  have  to  choose,  it's  probably  10  miles.

0:44:56.070 --> 0:44:58.469
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>10  miles,  it's  a  nice  distance  actually.

0:44:58.469 --> 0:44:58.681
<v Becs Gentry>It  is,  yeah.

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.531
<v Meb Keflezighi>Because  it's double digits.

0:45:01.531 --> 0:45:02.069
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah,  double  digits.

0:45:02.069 --> 0:45:03.989
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  a  distance,  we  don't  run  it  that  often.  We 

0:45:03.989 --> 0:45:06.150
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>have  of  course  the  New  Balance  Bronx  10- miler,  which 

0:45:06.150 --> 0:45:08.790
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  by  the  way,  I  always  say  probably  my  favorite 

0:45:08.790 --> 0:45:11.340
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>race  of  the  year  in  terms  of  the  experience  of 

0:45:11.340 --> 0:45:14.339
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>running  it. And you  got  the  Cherry  Blossom  10- miler  down  in  D.

0:45:14.340 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>C.  that  just  happened.  It  is  a  great  distance.

0:45:18.300 --> 0:45:18.301
<v Becs Gentry>It is.

0:45:18.301 --> 0:45:20.219
<v Meb Keflezighi>I never competed at  the  high,  when  I  was  an  elite  at  the 

0:45:20.219 --> 0:45:23.009
<v Meb Keflezighi>distance,  but  down  at  the  Cherry  Blossom,  the  distance  is 

0:45:23.190 --> 0:45:25.681
<v Meb Keflezighi>10  miles  is  respectable  and  it's  a  great  distance.

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:25.681
<v Becs Gentry>Gritty.

0:45:25.681 --> 0:45:27.900
<v Meb Keflezighi>And you  can  walk  normal  the  next  day.

0:45:27.900 --> 0:45:28.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hundred  percent.

0:45:28.620 --> 0:45:28.981
<v Becs Gentry>He's  probably  running at 4:30, casual.

0:45:28.981 --> 0:45:35.340
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>For me, it's 10k, to be honest.  It  sounds  crazy.  When  I  talk  about  what  I 

0:45:35.340 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>do  for  a  living,  everyone  thinks  it's  got  to  be 

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.750
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  marathon.  It  is  not  the  marathon.  I  have  run 

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:43.020
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>four  marathons  now.  I  have  done  it,  I've  gone  through 

0:45:43.020 --> 0:45:47.189
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it.  It's a  great  experience.  But  I  love  10  kilometers,  because 

0:45:47.190 --> 0:45:49.739
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  just  get  a  little  bit  of  speed  in  there. 

0:45:49.739 --> 0:45:52.830
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  get  a  chance  to  try  to  run  fast.  Feel 

0:45:52.830 --> 0:45:56.370
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  air  blowing  through  my  locks.  I  love  that.  I 

0:45:56.370 --> 0:46:00.420
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>love  that  feeling  of  running  fast. So 10k.  Okay.  What  is  your 

0:46:00.420 --> 0:46:03.961
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>favorite  exercise  besides  running,  Meb?

0:46:03.961 --> 0:46:07.770
<v Meb Keflezighi>My  favorite  exercise  is  to  play  soccer,  but  I've  been 

0:46:07.770 --> 0:46:12.404
<v Meb Keflezighi>moving  so  much  forward  in  the  last  20, 30  years,  120,

0:46:12.405 --> 0:46:15.090
<v Meb Keflezighi>000  miles,  and  this  body  can't  go  laterally  anymore,  so 

0:46:15.180 --> 0:46:16.170
<v Meb Keflezighi>I'm  sticking  to  running.

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:18.569
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Lateral  is  dangerous.  A  lot  of  bad  things  can  happen 

0:46:18.570 --> 0:46:18.751
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>when  you  run laterally.

0:46:18.751 --> 0:46:25.051
<v Meb Keflezighi>Yeah,  a  lot  of  injuries  happen, so  I  finally  hanged  it up.

0:46:25.051 --> 0:46:25.052
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>What about you?

0:46:25.051 --> 0:46:29.250
<v Becs Gentry>Oh, I don't  really  do  much  else  other  than  running.  I  mean 

0:46:29.250 --> 0:46:30.750
<v Becs Gentry>I  row  at  Peloton,  sorry.

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:33.750
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Rowing's  good.

0:46:33.810 --> 0:46:34.410
<v Becs Gentry>Rowing's  good.

0:46:34.410 --> 0:46:34.471
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Low  impact.

0:46:34.470 --> 0:46:38.790
<v Becs Gentry>Again,  it's  fun.  Honestly,  tennis  probably.

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:43.290
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  mine.  Tennis,  a  hundred  percent.  Tennis  was  always  my 

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>second  love.  I  played  baseball,  but  I  always  loved  tennis. 

0:46:46.739 --> 0:46:48.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hard  to  play  baseball  as  a  50- something- year- old 

0:46:48.780 --> 0:46:50.940
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>guy.  But  tennis  is  always  there.

0:46:50.940 --> 0:46:51.091
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah,  it is.

0:46:51.091 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Which  I  haven't  yet  taken  the  bait  to  start  pickleball 

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.109
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>yet.  I'm  still  trying  to  play  tennis,  but  I  know 

0:46:58.109 --> 0:46:59.161
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it's  somewhat  I'm  going  to  have  to  become  a  pickleball guy.

0:46:59.161 --> 0:46:59.460
<v Becs Gentry>Pickleball  is  aggressive.

0:47:00.390 --> 0:47:04.170
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  what  is  your  favorite  post- race  meal?  We 

0:47:04.170 --> 0:47:05.910
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>talk  about  this  a  lot  at  Road  Runner's.  Favorite  thing 

0:47:05.910 --> 0:47:10.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  eat  after  a  race.  I'll  start  with  this.  After 

0:47:10.890 --> 0:47:13.950
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  4- miler  the  other  day,  I  had  a  bacon, 

0:47:13.980 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>egg  and  cheese  sandwich.  It  was  fantastic.  At  a  great 

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>deli  in  the  Upper  East  Side.  Not  healthy  at  all, 

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>but  just  tasted  so  good  with  a  latte.

0:47:24.090 --> 0:47:24.091
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah. I'm sure.

0:47:24.091 --> 0:47:25.650
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  it's  usually  a  morning  race.  I  usually  go  for 

0:47:25.650 --> 0:47:27.359
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  morning  meal.  What  about  you, Meb?

0:47:28.140 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Meb Keflezighi>I'm  a  breakfast  kind  of  guy,  so I like to have  a  omelet  or 

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.870
<v Meb Keflezighi>eggs  scrambled,  is  my  go- to.  And in  the  evening  I 

0:47:33.870 --> 0:47:34.830
<v Meb Keflezighi>like  to  have  steak.

0:47:36.150 --> 0:47:39.060
<v Becs Gentry>That's  Tallulah's  favorite  meal  right  now.  No  wonder  she's  fast. 

0:47:40.380 --> 0:47:46.860
<v Becs Gentry>Okay.  I  hate  eating  after  a  race.  I  literally  can't 

0:47:47.250 --> 0:47:49.350
<v Becs Gentry>eat  when  I  finish  running,  because  I  feel  like  I 

0:47:49.350 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Becs Gentry>eat  so  much  when  I  run.  But  I  make  a 

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Becs Gentry>really  mean,  big  shake,  and I  think  about  that  for  the 

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.620
<v Becs Gentry>last  few  miles  of  my  run,  and  it's  got  everything 

0:48:01.620 --> 0:48:06.390
<v Becs Gentry>in  it. And it's  calorific  and  chocolatey  and  peanut  buttery,  and  some 

0:48:06.390 --> 0:48:08.130
<v Becs Gentry>spinach.  I  know  it  sounds  gross  and  weird.

0:48:08.130 --> 0:48:12.718
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You're  so  healthy.  A  protein  shake.  Okay,  last  one  before 

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:14.790
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we  move  on  to  our  member  moment  interview.  And  I'm 

0:48:14.790 --> 0:48:19.830
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>curious,  for  Meb  especially,  what  race  in  your  life  that 

0:48:19.830 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you've  run  are  you  most  proud  of?

0:48:22.950 --> 0:48:23.969
<v Meb Keflezighi>That's  a  tough  question.

0:48:24.510 --> 0:48:26.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Because  you've  got  a  few  to  choose  from.  You've  got 

0:48:26.250 --> 0:48:28.589
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>quite  a  few,  how  would  you  pick  one?

0:48:28.590 --> 0:48:29.220
<v Becs Gentry>How  long  have  we  got?

0:48:29.670 --> 0:48:33.390
<v Meb Keflezighi>New  York  City  Marathon  is  my  favorite,  favorite  marathon.  The 

0:48:33.390 --> 0:48:37.259
<v Meb Keflezighi>most  meaningful  victory  was  what  happened  in  2014, the  year  after 

0:48:37.260 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  bombing.  And  you  visualize  it,  you  dream  it  and 

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.810
<v Meb Keflezighi>whatnot.  But  I  mean  for  me  to  be  able  to 

0:48:42.810 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Meb Keflezighi>come  across  in  terms  of  proud  moment  is  to  be 

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.030
<v Meb Keflezighi>able  to  say  when  the  weight  of  the  nation  was 

0:48:48.030 --> 0:48:50.549
<v Meb Keflezighi>on  your  back  and  to  persevere  through  that  and  not 

0:48:50.550 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Meb Keflezighi>be  able  to  be  caught,  and  you  were  the  underdog. 

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.500
<v Meb Keflezighi>And  to  come  on  top  in  front  of the 36, 000  people 

0:48:55.500 --> 0:48:58.259
<v Meb Keflezighi>was  pretty  special.  But  New  York  had  give  me  all 

0:48:58.260 --> 0:49:01.500
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  opportunities,  taught  me  a  lot  of  lessons,  what  to 

0:49:01.500 --> 0:49:03.989
<v Meb Keflezighi>do,  what  not  to  do,  and  it  was  the  day 

0:49:03.989 --> 0:49:05.879
<v Meb Keflezighi>that  all  came  together  for  me,  even  though  I  was 

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.730
<v Meb Keflezighi>two  weeks  shy  on  my  39th  birthday.  So  proudest  moment, 

0:49:08.730 --> 0:49:09.750
<v Meb Keflezighi>it  was  the  Boston  Marathon.

0:49:09.989 --> 0:49:10.921
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.  Wow.

0:49:10.921 --> 0:49:10.922
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Absolutely.

0:49:10.922 --> 0:49:20.670
<v Becs Gentry>What a day.  Tough  one  for  me  as  well.  I  think  the 2019 

0:49:20.670 --> 0:49:24.870
<v Becs Gentry>TCS  New  York  City  Marathon,  for  me,  I'd  gone  through 

0:49:24.870 --> 0:49:27.330
<v Becs Gentry>a  really  tough  year,  gone  through  a  divorce,  I'd  gone 

0:49:27.330 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Becs Gentry>through  a  lot  of  stress.  I  had  no  idea  I 

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:35.910
<v Becs Gentry>had  that  pace  in  me  at  all.  And  I  finished 

0:49:35.910 --> 0:49:38.819
<v Becs Gentry>first  non- elite  female  at  the  New  York  City  Marathon, and 

0:49:38.820 --> 0:49:43.410
<v Becs Gentry>I  never  expected  that  ever.  Yeah.

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:46.500
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  a  pretty  big  deal.

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:47.489
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.

0:49:47.489 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  that's  amazing.  I  don't  know,  for  me,  I  don't 

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.989
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>have  anything  that's  going  to  compare  to  your  races.  I 

0:49:51.989 --> 0:49:54.299
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>mean,  I  think  it's  probably  my  first  marathon,  to  be 

0:49:54.300 --> 0:49:57.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>honest.  I  ran  it  25  years  old.  I  just  had 

0:49:57.810 --> 0:50:00.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  bright  idea  to  run  a  marathon.  When  I  saw 

0:50:00.450 --> 0:50:02.790
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  end  of  the  Boston  Marathon  my  last  year  in 

0:50:02.790 --> 0:50:05.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>law  school  up  there.  And  I  said, " God,  that'd  be 

0:50:05.310 --> 0:50:07.950
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>cool  to  run  a  marathon."  So  I  just  mailed  in 

0:50:07.950 --> 0:50:10.350
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>back  then  you  mailed  in,  that's  right,  with  a  actual 

0:50:10.350 --> 0:50:14.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>paper.  Mailed  in  for  an  application,  got  it  back,  sent 

0:50:14.190 --> 0:50:15.750
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it  back  to  East  89th  Street.

0:50:15.750 --> 0:50:16.110
<v Becs Gentry>Wow.

0:50:16.140 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  I  got  in  my  first  try  in  the  drawing, 

0:50:18.780 --> 0:50:21.090
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  I  trained  on  my  own.  I  had  no  idea 

0:50:21.090 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>what  I  was  doing.  I  got  a  magazine  with  a 

0:50:23.489 --> 0:50:27.299
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>training  chart  on it, and  I  did  what  the  magazine  said, and  I 

0:50:27.300 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>showed  up  in  Staten  Island  all  by  myself.  And  it 

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.150
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  the  rainiest  marathon in  the  history  of  the  New  York 

0:50:33.150 --> 0:50:36.060
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>City  Marathon.  I  think  it  rained  two  inches  that  day. 

0:50:36.060 --> 0:50:40.051
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  absolutely  poured  rain.  But  I  got  to  the  finish line.

0:50:40.051 --> 0:50:40.351
<v Becs Gentry>You did it.

0:50:40.710 --> 0:50:44.489
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  think  what  I  remember  most  about  that  is that  my 

0:50:44.489 --> 0:50:47.969
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>parents  came  out  for  that.  And  my  parents  caught  me 

0:50:48.270 --> 0:50:51.540
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  the  way  up  1st  Avenue,  and  then  they  doubled 

0:50:51.540 --> 0:50:55.140
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>back  into  Harlem,  caught  me  coming  down  5th  Avenue  in 

0:50:55.140 --> 0:50:57.900
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Harlem.  And  the  fact  that  they  came  out  along  with the way 

0:50:58.469 --> 0:51:00.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  bunch  of  my  friends  who  waited  for  me  on 

0:51:00.810 --> 0:51:04.380
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Central  Park  South  in  an  absolutely  driving  rainstorm.  I  think 

0:51:04.380 --> 0:51:06.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that's  what  I  remember  the  most,  is  the  people  who 

0:51:06.780 --> 0:51:11.220
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>came  out  to  see  me  that  day.  But  it  was a good one.


0:51:14.010 --> 0:51:17.070
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  Road  Runners  is  a  nonprofit  organization  with  a 

0:51:17.070 --> 0:51:20.460
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0:51:20.460 --> 0:51:24.570
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0:51:24.570 --> 0:51:27.750
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0:51:27.750 --> 0:51:31.650
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0:51:31.650 --> 0:51:36.270
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0:51:36.270 --> 0:51:41.040
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 All  right,  so  we're 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>going  to  stop  talking  about  our  stories  and  we're  going 

0:51:43.260 --> 0:51:46.201
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  shine  a  spotlight  on  one  of  our  members  right  now.

0:51:46.201 --> 0:51:46.351
<v Becs Gentry>Yes, let's do it.

0:51:46.410 --> 0:51:50.580
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Our  member  moment  this  week  is  someone  who  loves  running 

0:51:50.940 --> 0:51:53.910
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  loves  volunteering,  and  she  has  helped  to  shape  the 

0:51:53.910 --> 0:51:57.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  City  running  community.  Janelle  Hartman  was  the  recipient 

0:51:57.810 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  the  2018  Joe  Kleinerman  Award.  She's  an  open  run 

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:07.410
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>captain  who's  been  volunteering  since  the  first  Astoria  Park  Open 

0:52:07.410 --> 0:52:13.710
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Run  back  in  2015.  She's  a  runner  herself.  That's  right. 

0:52:16.050 --> 0:52:19.200
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>She's  a  runner  herself,  and  in  2018  at  the  age 

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:23.460
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  55,  Janelle  proudly  crossed  the  finish  line  as  the 

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:30.180
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>official  final  finisher  of  the  2018  TCS  New  York  City 

0:52:30.300 --> 0:52:35.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Marathon.  Janelle,  welcome  to  the  show.  Nice  to  have  you.

0:52:35.219 --> 0:52:37.529
<v Janelle Hartman>Thank  you  so  much.  Thank  you,  Rob.  Thank  you,  Becs. 

0:52:37.529 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Janelle Hartman>Thank  you, Meb,  for  having  me  today.  And  yeah,  I  did 

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:41.851
<v Janelle Hartman>those  things.

0:52:41.850 --> 0:52:47.670
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You did all  that.  Janelle,  we  were  talking  earlier,  it's  volunteer  appreciation 

0:52:47.670 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>month,  and  we  so  much  appreciate  everything  you've  done  for 

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.870
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  Road  Runners  for  the  running  community.  That  open and 

0:52:54.870 --> 0:52:57.870
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>run  location  you  have  out  there  in  Astoria  is  really 

0:52:57.870 --> 0:53:00.420
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>special.  I  went  out  there, it  was  the  first  open  run 

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:03.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I'd  ever  gone  to  in  Astoria  Park.  And  the  community 

0:53:03.930 --> 0:53:06.989
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  guys  have  there  is  so  great.  People  come  in 

0:53:06.989 --> 0:53:08.940
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>week  in  and  week  out.  They  know  they're  going  to 

0:53:08.940 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>see  your  face,  your  fellow  volunteers'  faces  out  there.  What 

0:53:13.469 --> 0:53:17.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  it  that  motivates  you  to  keep  showing  up  week 

0:53:17.100 --> 0:53:20.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>after  week  after  week  to  help  put  that  run  together?

0:53:20.310 --> 0:53:24.629
<v Janelle Hartman>Well,  that  park  is  amazing.  And  if  anyone  hears  from 

0:53:24.630 --> 0:53:27.270
<v Janelle Hartman>Astoria,  don't know  if  I  have  any  Queens  people  in  the  house.

0:53:27.660 --> 0:53:28.201
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Oh,  yeah.

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:29.219
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.

0:53:29.219 --> 0:53:29.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>We've got a couple.

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:34.860
<v Janelle Hartman>We're  such  a  diverse  neighborhood  and  it  really  is  amazing 

0:53:34.860 --> 0:53:36.210
<v Janelle Hartman>to  see.  Every  week  you  don't  know  who's  going  to 

0:53:36.210 --> 0:53:41.820
<v Janelle Hartman>show  up,  and  you  get  to  see  mothers,  fathers,  kids, 

0:53:42.030 --> 0:53:47.670
<v Janelle Hartman>scooters,  dogs,  people  from  all  ages  who  come  out.  And 

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:51.150
<v Janelle Hartman>what's  been  growing  is this  amazing  amount  of  people  started  an 

0:53:51.150 --> 0:53:55.140
<v Janelle Hartman>open  run,  started  doing  their  first  5k,  moved  up,  and 

0:53:55.140 --> 0:54:00.180
<v Janelle Hartman>we  have  so  many  marathoners  now  that  literally  after  every 

0:54:00.270 --> 0:54:02.460
<v Janelle Hartman>race,  pretty  much  we  take  pictures  of  anyone  who's  gotten 

0:54:02.460 --> 0:54:05.880
<v Janelle Hartman>a  medal.  It's  kind  of  my  thing.
 But  particularly  the 

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Janelle Hartman>amount  of  people who  have  completed  marathons,  RTCS,  New  York  City 

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:15.150
<v Janelle Hartman>Marathon  and  other  marathons,  is  amazing.  And  they  started  with 

0:54:15.150 --> 0:54:19.260
<v Janelle Hartman>Open  Run,  or  they've  used  Open  Run  as  an  anchor, 

0:54:19.290 --> 0:54:21.870
<v Janelle Hartman>because  that's  also  a  place  that  you  know  every  week 

0:54:21.870 --> 0:54:25.529
<v Janelle Hartman>on  a  Saturday  you  can  show  up,  see  people  from the 

0:54:25.530 --> 0:54:28.980
<v Janelle Hartman>running  community.  You  don't  have  to  go  in  a  corral, 

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.860
<v Janelle Hartman>you  just  show  up.  We  send  you  on  your  way, 

0:54:31.860 --> 0:54:34.170
<v Janelle Hartman>and  you'll  run  through  the  park,  and  it's  a  gorgeous 

0:54:34.170 --> 0:54:37.230
<v Janelle Hartman>park.  So  it's  a  fun  time.  You  should  come  out, 

0:54:37.230 --> 0:54:38.489
<v Janelle Hartman>Meb,  I'd  love  to  have  you.

0:54:38.820 --> 0:54:42.810
<v Meb Keflezighi>That'd  be  great.  That'll  be  fun  sometime.  You've  been  volunteering 

0:54:42.810 --> 0:54:45.660
<v Meb Keflezighi>for  over  a  decade  for  the  New York  Road  Runners,  can 

0:54:45.660 --> 0:54:47.790
<v Meb Keflezighi>you  tell  us  the  first  time  you  volunteered  for  the 

0:54:47.790 --> 0:54:50.730
<v Meb Keflezighi>New  York  Half,  and  then  how  you're  still  involved  now?

0:54:51.060 --> 0:54:55.020
<v Janelle Hartman>So  I  decided  I  wanted  to  become  a  runner.  I 

0:54:55.020 --> 0:54:57.509
<v Janelle Hartman>had  a  trainer  who  is  one  of  your  mentors  for 

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Janelle Hartman>Team  for  Kids.  And  she  said, " Well,  let's  get  you 

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:04.620
<v Janelle Hartman>through  a  5k."  Which  she  did.  And  then  she  put 

0:55:04.620 --> 0:55:07.890
<v Janelle Hartman>me  through a  10k.  And  then  we  looked  at  the  half 

0:55:07.890 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Janelle Hartman>and  the  Maybelline,  which  was  another  name  at  the  time, 

0:55:11.310 --> 0:55:14.010
<v Janelle Hartman>was  my  first  half.  So  I  said,  you  know  what? 

0:55:14.010 --> 0:55:15.810
<v Janelle Hartman>I  got  to  see  if  people  are  going  to  stick 

0:55:15.810 --> 0:55:19.080
<v Janelle Hartman>around  for  my  pace.  What  is  it  going  to  be 

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:21.330
<v Janelle Hartman>like?  So  I'm  a  prepper,  I'm  going  to  go  to 

0:55:21.330 --> 0:55:22.830
<v Janelle Hartman>dinner  later.  I  already  know  what  I'm  going  to  get 

0:55:22.830 --> 0:55:26.010
<v Janelle Hartman>on  the  menu.  I  get  ready.  I  prep  for  whatever 

0:55:26.010 --> 0:55:27.989
<v Janelle Hartman>I'm  getting  ahead.
 So  I  wanted  to  see  what  it 

0:55:27.989 --> 0:55:30.900
<v Janelle Hartman>was  like,  and  I  got  a  spot  at  the  finish 

0:55:30.900 --> 0:55:35.820
<v Janelle Hartman>as  a  volunteer,  and  I  cheered  on  those  final  finishers. 

0:55:35.820 --> 0:55:37.529
<v Janelle Hartman>I  was  not  going  to  leave  until  I  made  sure 

0:55:37.530 --> 0:55:40.469
<v Janelle Hartman>everybody  got  through  because  I  said, " Well,  hope  somebody's  going 

0:55:40.469 --> 0:55:43.950
<v Janelle Hartman>to  stick  around  for  me  at  my  half,  so I'm going to  at 

0:55:43.950 --> 0:55:46.170
<v Janelle Hartman>least  do  it  for  these."  And  I  remember  the  volunteer 

0:55:46.170 --> 0:55:48.450
<v Janelle Hartman>leader  at  the  time  came  over  and  said, " Hey,  you 

0:55:48.450 --> 0:55:50.370
<v Janelle Hartman>can  come  back  anytime.  You  have  a  lot  of  good 

0:55:50.370 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Janelle Hartman>energy."  And  just  that  one  encouragement  got  me  hooked.  So 

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.060
<v Janelle Hartman>now  I'm  like, " Okay, now I got  to  do  both.  I  got to  run." 

0:55:57.300 --> 0:56:00.030
<v Janelle Hartman>So  I  used  to  run  short  and  volunteer  long,  as 

0:56:00.030 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Janelle Hartman>I  called  it.  So  I  would  do  all  the  halves 

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:04.320
<v Janelle Hartman>and  different  things,  and  then  I  would  start  and  I 

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.660
<v Janelle Hartman>would  run  the  shorter  races,  until  2018.

0:56:07.170 --> 0:56:07.171
<v Becs Gentry>Wow.

0:56:07.171 --> 0:56:07.651
<v Meb Keflezighi>Awesome.

0:56:08.340 --> 0:56:12.660
<v Becs Gentry>That's  amazing.  Okay,  let's  talk  about  2018.  55  years  old. 

0:56:12.870 --> 0:56:16.109
<v Becs Gentry>You  ran  the  TCS  New  York  City  Marathon.  You  were 

0:56:16.170 --> 0:56:20.310
<v Becs Gentry>a  final  finisher  that  day.  Talk  about  those  last  few 

0:56:20.310 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Becs Gentry>miles.  What  was  going  through  your  mind?  I  mean,  that's 

0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:24.450
<v Becs Gentry>a  long  race.

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:28.050
<v Janelle Hartman>Yeah,  it's  a  long  time  out  there,  but  I  have 

0:56:28.050 --> 0:56:31.140
<v Janelle Hartman>an  amazing  support  group  of  people  who  really  have  loved 

0:56:31.140 --> 0:56:34.020
<v Janelle Hartman>me  through.  And  I  also  knew  that  a  lot  of 

0:56:34.020 --> 0:56:35.730
<v Janelle Hartman>people  said  to  me  like,  this  guy  at  works  said, "

0:56:36.030 --> 0:56:38.670
<v Janelle Hartman>Don't  you  dare  come  back  to  work  unless  you  finish."

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:39.120
<v Becs Gentry>Wow.

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:42.870
<v Janelle Hartman>There's something about  somebody  saying, " Don't  you..."  Because  you  can't  shut  up 

0:56:42.870 --> 0:56:45.930
<v Janelle Hartman>about  this  running  business.  You  better  show  up,  and  you 

0:56:45.930 --> 0:56:49.290
<v Janelle Hartman>better  finish.  That  carried  me  through  a  lot  of  miles.

0:56:49.350 --> 0:56:50.191
<v Becs Gentry>Wow,  the  tough love. Yeah.

0:56:50.190 --> 0:56:57.900
<v Janelle Hartman>But when  I  got  to  Engineers  Gate,  I  had  a  group 

0:56:58.260 --> 0:57:01.620
<v Janelle Hartman>of  supporters  that  came  from  my  running  group.  One  of 

0:57:01.620 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Janelle Hartman>them  is  here  tonight  with  me,  Maggie,  and  they  cheered 

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Janelle Hartman>me  on.  And  somebody  pulled  out  a  video  and  showed 

0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:11.280
<v Janelle Hartman>me  a  lot  of  finishers  sitting  at  a  bar  enjoying 

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:15.150
<v Janelle Hartman>their  post- run  marathon,  and  they  were  all  cheering.  And 

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<v Janelle Hartman>there  was  my  name.  The  tears  ran.  I  really  have 

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:22.770
<v Janelle Hartman>to  finish.  So  I  just  said, " All  right."
 And  I 

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<v Janelle Hartman>kind  of  took  over,  because  I  kind  of  do  that 

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<v Janelle Hartman>sometimes. And I took over,  I  said, "All right, these are  the  songs  I  want."  So  we  literally, 

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<v Janelle Hartman>the  last  few  miles,  songs  and  every  once  in  a 

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<v Janelle Hartman>while,  Road  Runner  guide  come  and  say, " Who's  Janelle?"  And 

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:39.630
<v Janelle Hartman>I'd  be  like, " I'm  Janelle.  I'm  going  to  make  it. 

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<v Janelle Hartman>Tell  Peter  I'm  coming." Because that  was  Peter  Ciaccia's  last  race.  So 

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<v Janelle Hartman>I  needed  Peter  to  retire.  I  mean,  he  would've  been 

0:57:46.710 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Janelle Hartman>mad.  He  wouldn't  have  gotten  his  401k,  well,  in  those 

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:54.750
<v Janelle Hartman>days.  So  I  needed  to  finish  for  Peter  to  get 

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<v Janelle Hartman>on  with  his  life.  So  I  needed  to  get  there.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Peter Ciaccia's.

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<v Janelle Hartman>And I did.

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<v Becs Gentry>You did.

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<v Meb Keflezighi>You did.

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<v Becs Gentry>Beautifully.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>The former  race  director  of the  New  York  City  Marathon.  I  love 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that.  Peer  pressure  can  really  do  a  lot,  right?

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<v Janelle Hartman>It  sure does.  As  long  as it's in the right way, because sometimes it can be a little, as long as  it  stays  on  the  side 

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<v Janelle Hartman>of  encouragement  with  a  slight  feeling  that  there  may  be 

0:58:20.130 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Janelle Hartman>a  little  shame  if  you  don't.  But  also,  I  knew 

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:27.600
<v Janelle Hartman>people  believed  in  me,  and  I  think  that sometimes  all  that 

0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:29.370
<v Janelle Hartman>we  need  to  do  in  this  community  is  say, " I 

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<v Janelle Hartman>really  do  believe  you  can  do  this."
 And  so  I 

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<v Janelle Hartman>think  that  that's  what,  if  we  can  say, " I  know 

0:58:35.310 --> 0:58:37.770
<v Janelle Hartman>you  can  do  it."  So  somebody  looks  at  me  today, 

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<v Janelle Hartman>or  here's  me,  actually I was 56  when  I  did  it.  This  old 

0:58:42.420 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Janelle Hartman>lady  did  this  race,  and  she's  not  that  small  and 

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:49.140
<v Janelle Hartman>she's  pretty  slow,  it's  like  paint  drying  when  I  run. 

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<v Janelle Hartman>That  person  said, " You  know  what?  She  did  it." " Maybe 

0:58:52.860 --> 0:58:55.650
<v Janelle Hartman>I  can  do  that." And  I  really  hope  that  that  makes 

0:58:55.650 --> 0:59:00.300
<v Janelle Hartman>people  say, " Try  it."  Do  what  you  need  to  do. 

0:59:00.300 --> 0:59:02.190
<v Janelle Hartman>Do it  the  way  you  need  to  do  it,  not  the 

0:59:02.190 --> 0:59:02.730
<v Janelle Hartman>way  you  think  you have to do it.

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<v Becs Gentry>That part, that part.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I love it. You're a social worker in your non-running career.

0:59:02.732 --> 0:59:02.733
<v Janelle Hartman>I am. I am.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And just listening to you, I  can  feel  it,  I  can  feel  the  encouragement.  What's 

0:59:20.190 --> 0:59:22.350
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  tie- in  you  think,  between  your  work  as  a 

0:59:22.350 --> 0:59:25.500
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>social  worker,  and  what  you do  as  a  runner,  as  a 

0:59:25.500 --> 0:59:27.630
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>volunteer,  encouraging  people  to  get  into  running?

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Janelle Hartman>Well,  I  work  in  one  of  the  largest  nursing  homes 

0:59:31.350 --> 0:59:35.490
<v Janelle Hartman>in  the  city,  and  people  there  are  at  every  level 

0:59:35.490 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Janelle Hartman>of  ability.  And  one  thing  I  knew  is  that  both 

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:43.410
<v Janelle Hartman>my  legs  worked. And  so  I  said, " You  know  what?  Both 

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:46.650
<v Janelle Hartman>my  legs  work,  and  they  may  not  be  the  fastest, 

0:59:46.650 --> 0:59:49.770
<v Janelle Hartman>but  let  me  use  them.  Let  me  do  movement.  Let 

0:59:49.770 --> 0:59:52.320
<v Janelle Hartman>me  keep  going  as  far  as  I  can."  And  I 

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:56.490
<v Janelle Hartman>have  to  say  that  it's  just  amazing  to  see  you're 

0:59:56.490 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Janelle Hartman>encouraging  people  that  have  to  relearn  to  walk.  You  say 

1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:05.280
<v Janelle Hartman>to  yourself  every  day,  it's  a  gift  to  have  legs, 

1:00:05.340 --> 1:00:08.160
<v Janelle Hartman>or  to  have  a  chance,  maybe  even  if  you're  using 

1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:13.890
<v Janelle Hartman>a  wheelchair  or  have the arm  strength  to  move  a  power chair, to move a  chair 

1:00:13.890 --> 1:00:17.310
<v Janelle Hartman>or  to  move,  I'm  thinking  of  the  name  of  that 

1:00:17.310 --> 1:00:18.210
<v Janelle Hartman>wheelchair,  see-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Or  one  of  the  bikes.  Yeah,  that little  hand  cycles.

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<v Janelle Hartman>I mean it's amazing to see that. So  I  know  that  it  just  ties in. So  every  day  when 

1:00:29.250 --> 1:00:32.910
<v Janelle Hartman>I'm  encouraging  people,  I  also  know  that  I  have  to encourage myself to listen. Every day you got to 

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:37.980
<v Janelle Hartman>practice  what  you  preach.  You  got  to  get  out  there 

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<v Janelle Hartman>and  move  yourself  and  do  things  and  encourage  people  to 

1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:47.010
<v Janelle Hartman>get  their  goals.  It  may  not  look  very  Instagrammable,  but 

1:00:47.010 --> 1:00:50.370
<v Janelle Hartman>it  may  look  the  way  it  is  for  you,  and 

1:00:50.370 --> 1:00:52.110
<v Janelle Hartman>people  will  be  behind  you.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Amazing.  Janelle,  thank  you.  Thanks  for  coming.

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<v Becs Gentry>Janelle,  thank  you so much.

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<v Janelle Hartman>Thank you.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>This  is  what  we talk about.  This  is  what  we  talk  about 

1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:05.341
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  Set  the  Pace.  This  is  what  it's all about.

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<v Becs Gentry>This is it.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  love  your  story  and  it's  been  great  having  you.

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<v Janelle Hartman>Thank  you  so  much  for having me.

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<v Becs Gentry>Thank you, Janelle. Thank you for what you do.

1:01:08.941 --> 1:01:09.060
<v Janelle Hartman>Thank  you.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thanks for you  volunteering  and  all  the  difference  you've  made.
 I  love 

1:01:17.970 --> 1:01:22.230
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>those  stories.  And  Open  Run is  something  not  everybody  knows  about, 

1:01:22.230 --> 1:01:25.200
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>but  free  running  in  every  borough  of  New  York  City 

1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:26.220
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>every  single  weekend.

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<v Becs Gentry>You can do it.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  if  you  want  to  give  it  a  try,  you 

1:01:28.050 --> 1:01:30.900
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>haven't  gotten  into  running,  you  don't  want  to  or  don't 

1:01:30.900 --> 1:01:33.150
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>know  how  to  sign  up  for a  race  yet,  it's  easy. 

1:01:33.150 --> 1:01:36.540
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You go on  nyrr. org,  find  Open  Run,  and  you  can  sign 

1:01:36.540 --> 1:01:38.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  and  be  running  within  a  week  for  free.

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<v Becs Gentry>Never  know  who  you're going to meet.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's pretty cool  program.  All  right,  now  every  week  we  wrap  up 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  show  with  something  we  like  to  call  the  Meb  minute.

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<v Becs Gentry>Is he...

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And Meb,  what's  your  minute  today?  What  are  you  going  to 

1:01:49.680 --> 1:01:51.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>talk  about  today  with  your Meb  minute?

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Rob and  Becs,  today,  as  Janelle  said  this,  consistency  is  the 

1:01:55.530 --> 1:02:00.420
<v Meb Keflezighi>name  of  the  game.  Routine  is  important,  but  progress,  whether 

1:02:00.420 --> 1:02:03.000
<v Meb Keflezighi>you're  from  the  pack,  middle  of  the  pack  or the back of  the 

1:02:03.000 --> 1:02:05.730
<v Meb Keflezighi>pack,  getting  to  that  finish  line,  it  means  so  much. 

1:02:05.730 --> 1:02:08.760
<v Meb Keflezighi>But  the  discipline,  the  dedication,  and  the  hours  that  you 

1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:11.400
<v Meb Keflezighi>put  in,  will  get  you to  that  finish  line.  And  I 

1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:16.650
<v Meb Keflezighi>always  said  the  key  to  success  is  preparation.
 Janelle  just 

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<v Meb Keflezighi>discussed  about  getting  to  that  finish  line,  that's  what " run 

1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:21.510
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  win"  is,  it  means  to get  the  best  out  of 

1:02:21.510 --> 1:02:26.520
<v Meb Keflezighi>yourself.  We  all  have  gender,  age,  weight,  or  whatever  issue 

1:02:26.520 --> 1:02:29.040
<v Meb Keflezighi>that  we  have  or  that  we  are  given  God- given 

1:02:29.040 --> 1:02:31.919
<v Meb Keflezighi>talent  or  when  you  discover  running  late,  but  you  have 

1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:34.920
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  have  the  routine  and  the  discipline,  and  be  able 

1:02:34.920 --> 1:02:36.480
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  get  to  that  finish  line.  And  I  think  that's 

1:02:36.480 --> 1:02:38.070
<v Meb Keflezighi>what  it  is,  today's  Med  minute.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>There's  no  way  to  get  to  the  finish  line  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  marathon  without  discipline.  That  is one  hundred  percent  required.  Right? 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  don't  have  to  have  speed,  you  don't  have  to 

1:02:46.500 --> 1:02:48.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>have  agility,  you  don't  have  to  have  strength.  But  discipline 

1:02:48.780 --> 1:02:50.940
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  a  must- have  for  everybody.

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<v Becs Gentry>Absolutely.  Thank  you, Meb.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Discipline  is  important.  Well,  that's  a  good  way  to  end 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  conversation  on a  Meb  piece  of  wisdom,  which  is  how 

1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:03.300
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  podcast  started,  with  a  little  Meb  wisdom.  We're  going 

1:03:03.300 --> 1:03:05.910
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  wrap  it  up  with  that  as  well.
 Everybody,  thank 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  so  much  for  joining  us for this  100th  episode  of  Set 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Pace.
 Thanks  to  this  incredible  live  audience.  We've  got 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Meb Keflezighi.  I  want  to  thank  you  for  coming  up  here, 

1:03:20.820 --> 1:03:23.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>joining  us  in  person  for  this.  It's  so  great  to 

1:03:23.250 --> 1:03:23.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>see  you.

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<v Becs Gentry>Thank you, Meb.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  hey,  this  podcast  would  not  be  a  thing  if 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it  hadn't  been  for  you,  helping  us  get  it  off 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  ground.  So  thank  you, Meb.

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Thank  you,  Rob.  Thank  you,  Becs.  It's  great  to  be 

1:03:31.650 --> 1:03:31.801
<v Meb Keflezighi>with  you guys.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Absolutely.  Becs,  as  always,  phenomenal.  Great  to  see  you.

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<v Becs Gentry>You too.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>single  week.  It's  been  a  pleasure.  Thanks  everybody.  We  will 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>see  you  next  week.  Enjoy  the  miles.