WEBVTT - Making Magic Happen at the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade with Kathleen Wright

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  Road  Runners  is  a  non- profit  organization  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  vision  to  build  healthier  lives  and  stronger  communities  through 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  transformative  power  of  running.  The  support  of  members  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>donors  like  you  helps  us  achieve  our  mission  to  transform 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  health  and  well- being  of  our  communities  through  inclusive 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  accessible  running  experiences,  empowering  all  to  achieve  their  potential.


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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Learn  more  and  contribute  at  nyrr. org/ donate.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank  you,  New  York.  Today  we're  reminded  of  the  power 

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<v Speaker 2>of  community  and  the  power  of  coming  together.  Athletes,  on 

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<v Speaker 2>your  mark.

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<v Speaker 3>The  first  woman  to  finish  for  the  second  straight  year 

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<v Speaker 3>here  in  the  New  York City Marathon  is  Miki  Gorman,  a  smiling 

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<v Speaker 3>Miki  Gorman.  And  why  not?  2: 29:30,  the  time for good advice.

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<v Speaker 4>Look  at  the  emotion  of  Shalane  Flanagan  as  she  comes 

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<v Speaker 4>to  the  line.
 Pointing  to  his  chest,  pointing  to  the 

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<v Speaker 4>USA, he  so  proudly  wears  across  his  chest.  A  great  day 

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<v Speaker 4>for Meb  Keflezighi.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hey  everybody,  and  welcome  to  Set  the  Pace,  the  official 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>podcast  of  New  York  Road  Runners,  presented  by  Peloton.  I'm 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>your  host  and  the  CEO  of  New  York  Road  Runners, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Rob  Simmelkjaer.  And  if  you're  getting  this  episode  on  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>day  it  drops,  then  the  first  thing  I  want  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>say  is  happy  Thanksgiving.  Hope  everybody  out  there  is  having 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  great  holiday  with  friends,  with  family.  I  think  we 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>all  have  a  lot  to  be  thankful  for.  Certainly  those 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  us  at  New  York  Road  Runners.  So  much  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>be  thankful  for  this  season.  Thankful  for  great  running  all 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year  long,  great  racing,  a  phenomenal  TCS  New  York  City 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Marathon.  And  most  of  all,  I  can  just  say  as 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  CEO,  we  are  thankful  for  all  of  you,  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>members  of  our  running  community,  our  members,  our  runners,  everybody 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out  there  who's  been  a  part  of  our  community  this 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year.
 We  thank  you.  We're  thankful  for  you,  and  we're 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thankful  that  you  have  been  able  to  engage  with  us 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  get  something  out  of  what  we  do  this  year. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>The  power  of  running,  we  always  talk  about  it.  Hopefully 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  have  felt  some  of  that  power  this  year.  And 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we're  thankful  to  have  been  a  part  of  that  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you.
 Also,  I'm  thankful  for  my  co- host,  Becs  Gentry. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>She's  not  with  us  today,  as  she  is  quite  rightly 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  vacation.  That's  right.  She  is  vacationing  from  completing  her 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>incredible  feat  around  the around the  world  marathon  tour  last  Wednesday,  seven 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>marathons  on  seven  continents  in  seven  days.  She  just  did 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  phenomenal  job.  It's  incredible.  I  can  only  imagine  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>exhaustion  she  must  have  felt  at  the  end  of  that, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>but  also  the  elation.  She'll  be  back  with  us  next 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>week  and  I  can't  wait  to  talk  to  Becs  about 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  adventure,  hear  all  about  it.  What  an  incredible  accomplishment. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  congrats,  Becs.  We're  thankful  for  you  and  we're  thankful 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  you  came  through  that  amazing  adventure  safe  and  sound 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  did  such  a  great  job.  So I  hope  you're  having 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  restful  Thanksgiving  with  your  family  and  friends  and  all 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  that.
 Well,  this  coming  weekend's  a  quiet  weekend  for 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>us  at  New  York  Road  Runners.  We're  not  in  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>turkey  trot  business  here.  I'm  sure  many  of  you  are 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out  there  running  turkey  trots  here  on  Thanksgiving  Day  or 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>maybe  over  the  following  weekend.  So  for  those  who  are 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>doing  your  turkey  trots,  good  luck.  Enjoy.  It's  such  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>fun  thing  to  do  to  get  some  calories  burned  off 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  get  your  metabolism  up  for  that  Thanksgiving  feast.  So 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>hope  everybody  has  a  great  turkey  trot,  whether  it's  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>race  or  just  to  run  with  friends  or  family.  But 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Road  Runners  is  quiet  this  weekend,  but  we  had  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>really  busy  and  great  weekend,  the  weekend  before  Thanksgiving,  so 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>some  early  turkey  trots  we  had  going.
 And  we  had 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  couple  of  them.  First  of  all,  I  had  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>great  time  on  Sunday,  heading  back  to  my  old  stomping 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>grounds  Van  Cortlandt  Park  in  the  Bronx  for  the  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  Road  Runners  Cross  Country,  5K  this  past  Sunday.  It 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  the  first  time  I'd  been  to  Van  Cortlandt  since 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  ran  cross- country  at  Horace  Mann  School  back  in 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  1980s.  Yes,  that's  right  folks.  It  was  the  eighties.


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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  man,  it  was  incredible  to  go  back  there  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it  was  so  much  fun  to  go  back  there  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>my  daughter,  Julia.  The  two  of  us  took  on  that 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>5K  course  and  man, I think that  I  had  somehow  blocked  out  how 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>incredibly  difficult  that  cross- country  course  is. You know  how  they  say 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  these  really  hard  things  that  we  go  through,  we 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>somehow  managed  to  either  forget  or  think  of  them  more 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>fondly  so  that  we'll  be  convinced  to  do  them  again? 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Well,  that's  how  I  felt  running  that  cross- country  course 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  Sunday.
 The  hills  in  those  woods  are  so  massive. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Somehow  I  had  blocked  those  out.  And  Julia  was  looking 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>at  me  halfway  through  this  race  like, " What  are  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>doing  to  me  right  now?"  It  was  such  a  hard 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>race.  It  was  like  three  and  a  half  minutes  or 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>more  off  of  her  5K  PR  because  it  was  so 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>challenging.  But  at  the  end  we  had  such  a  great 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>time.  And  it  was  such  a  really  old  school  race. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>People  just  went  out  to  the  field,  lined  up  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>loose  starting  line.  No  timing  at  the  start.  You  just 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>go  and  run.  And  the  only  timing  was  at  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>finish.  It  really  brought  me  back  to  the  early  days 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  running  for  me.  Of  course,  the  cross- country  tradition. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  the  early  days  of  New  York  Road  Runners,  which 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>really  started  out  in  the  Bronx  as  a  much  more  low-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>key  running  operation  than  of  course  we  are  now.
 And 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>so  it  was  really  fun  to  experience  that  and  it 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  great  to  see  folks  up  there.  We  also  had  over 1,

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>000  kids  running  with  Rising  New  York  Road  Runners. It's  one 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  our  biggest  youth  events  of  the  year,  and  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>buses  were  lined  up  and  down  Broadway.  A  great  turnout 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  kids  from  all  five  boroughs  of  New  York.  That 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  awesome  to  see  as  they  all  got  in  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>run  before  their  Thanksgiving  holiday.  So  congrats  to  everybody,  adults 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  kids,  who  ran  in  the  Bronx  on  Sunday.  It 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  really  a  great  day.
 Then,  back  in  Central  Park, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we  also  had  more  than 6, 700  runners  completing  the  annual 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Race  to  Deliver  4Miler  to  Benefit  God's  Love  We  Deliver. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  it  was  a  great  event.  It  raises  money  for 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>God's  Love  We  Deliver,  a  great  organization  that  cooks  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>delivers  medically  tailored  meals  to  New  Yorkers  affected  by  severe 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>illness  such  as  heart  disease,  HIV,  cancer,  and  COPD.
 This 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year  the  organization  will  work  with  more  than 24, 000  volunteers 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  deliver  more  than  5  million  meals,  all  free  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>charge,  to  more  than  17,000  New  Yorkers.  And  so  it's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  great  race,  a  great  event  to  benefit  a  phenomenal 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>cause  at  the  perfect  time  of  year  as  we  get 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>into  the  holiday  season.  So  thanks  to  all  the  runners 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>who  came  out  to  support  the  run  to  our  Rising 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  Road  Runners  participants  and  parents  and  all  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>volunteers  who  made  a  great  morning.
 The  winners,  by  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>way  in  Central  Park  for  the  women,  it  was  Lauren 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Sapone  with  a  time  of 24: 28.  Non- binary  winner  was 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Sean  Rankin  with  a  time  of  25:44.  Sean  runs  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Dashing  Whippets.  And  for  the  men  it  was  Jeremy  Arthur 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>with  a  time  of  20  minutes  and  45  seconds.  Jeremy 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>also  runs  with  Dashing  Whippets.  So  congrats  to  all  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>finishers  of  both  of  our  races  this  past  Sunday.
 No 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>matter  what  season  of  life  you're  in,  Peloton  has  everything 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  need  to  keep  your  running  on  track.  From  challenging 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>classes  and  training  programs  to  outdoor  runs  and  walks,  we've 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>got  you  covered  whatever  your  level.  Whether  you're  gearing  up 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>training  plans,  expert  coaching,  and  a  community  that  supports  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>every  step  of  the  way.  Find  your  push,  find  your 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>power  at  onepeloton. com/ race- training.
 Every  November  two  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  City's  most  iconic  events  take  over  the  streets 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  New  York  City  and  captivate  viewers  worldwide.  Of  course, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  of  them  is  the  TCS  New  York  City  Marathon 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  we  all  know  about.  Well,  the  other  is  happening 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  week,  the  Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade.  On  this  special 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thanksgiving  episode  of  Set  the  Pace,  you're  used  to  hearing 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>about  the  details  behind  producing  the  marathon.  But  today  we're 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>going  to  take  you  behind  the  scenes  of  the  Macy's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thanksgiving  Day  Parade  with  Kathleen  Wright.
 She  is  the  powerhouse 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>production  director  of  that  parade  and  she'll  share  everything  it 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>takes  to  bring  this  quintessential  New  York  City  tradition  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>life.
 And  for  today's  member  moment,  Meb's  going  to  be 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>here  to  introduce  us  to  the  champion  of  the  first 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Every  Woman's  Marathon,  New  York  Road  Runner's  member,  Khia  Kurtenbach. Khia 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>will  tell  us  what  it  felt  like  to  be  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>very  first  woman  to  cross  the  finish  line  where  some 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  her  personal  heroes,  including  Kathrine  Switzer  and  Des  Linden 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>were  waiting  to  celebrate  her.
 And  then  for  today's  Meb 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Minute,  Meb  will  be  here  to  talk  about  thankfulness,  specifically 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>how  thankful  we  should  all  be  for  what  running  does 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  us.

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<v Speaker 5>Growing  a  business  means  a  lot  of  audience  attracting,  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Well,  you  know  if  you  listen  to  this show that I always say the  TCS  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  City Marathon  is  the  best  day  of  the  year  in 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  City.  My  guest  today  may  be  one  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  few  people  in  the  city  who  could  maybe  have 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>an  argument  against  that,  at  least  maybe  a  tie.
 Kathleen 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Wright  is  the  director  of  production  operations  and  the  woman 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>responsible  for  orchestrating  the  magic  behind  the  Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Parade.  From  the  floats  and  the  balloons  to  the  clowns 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  the  marching  bands,  Kathleen's  team  handles  it  all,  making 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>sure  every  detail  is  perfect  for  millions  of  spectators,  both 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  person  and  of  course  on  national  television.
 What  began 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  a  volunteer  opportunity  has  turned  into  a  dream  job, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>leading  one  of  the  biggest  holiday  events  in  the  world. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  much  like  the  marathon,  the  parade  is  complex.  It's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  logistical  masterpiece  that  transforms  the  city  streets.  Kathleen's  here 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  share  with  us  how  she  and  her  team  make 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it  all  happen  year  after  year  on  Thanksgiving.
 Kathleen,  it's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>nice  to  meet  you.  How  are  you  doing?

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<v Kathleen Wright>So  nice  to  meet  you  as  well.  I'm  so  excited 

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<v Kathleen Wright>to  talk  about  this  with you. Big fan of  the  Road  Runners  and  the 

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<v Kathleen Wright>New  York  City  Marathon.  So  excited  to  dive  in.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thank you. And you have a  good  perspective  on  these  two  big  New  York  City 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>events.  You've  run  the  marathon  a  few  times,  now  you  are "

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>running,"  in  charge  of  the  Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade.  So 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it's  definitely  a  fun  argument,  which  is  a  better  day, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>but  there's  certainly  both  big  days  for  New  York  City.


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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Tell  me  a  little  bit  to  start  about  just  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>history  of  this  event.  It's  been  going  on  ever  since 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  can  remember and  I  imagine  well,  well  before.

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<v Kathleen Wright>Yeah,  so  the  first  parade  was  in  1924.  So  we 

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<v Kathleen Wright>are  right  at  that  100- year  mark.  The  parade  was 

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<v Kathleen Wright>canceled  for  three  years  during  World  War  Two,  so  we're 

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<v Kathleen Wright>celebrating  our  100th  parade in  a  couple  of  years.  But  every 

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<v Kathleen Wright>single  year  has  been  just  a  new,  fun  experiment  of 

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<v Kathleen Wright>how  we  can  honor  the  tradition  of  those  97  parades 

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<v Kathleen Wright>that  have  already  gone  by,  how  we  can  make  the 

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<v Kathleen Wright>98th  just  as  fun,  just  as  exciting,  just  as  inspiring 

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<v Kathleen Wright>of  all of  the  parades  that  have  come  before  it.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  Kathleen,  I  imagine  a  lot  of  people,  and  I 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thought  this  for  a  long  time,  would  just  think  Macy's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  the  sponsor  of  the  parade,  kind  of  like  TCS is 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  sponsor  of  the  New  York  City  Marathon,  but  not 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>necessarily  realize  that  you're  a  Macy's  employee.  Your  team  works 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  Macy's.  You  guys  stage  the  event.  Macy's  is  putting 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  thing  on,  not  just  sponsoring  it.

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<v Kathleen Wright>That's  right.  I  work  for  Macy's.  I  am  on  the 

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<v Kathleen Wright>Macy's  Studios  team  and  there  are  50  of  us  that 

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<v Kathleen Wright>work  year- round  on  Macy's  events.  So  that  includes  not 

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<v Kathleen Wright>only  the  Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade,  but  also  the  Macy's 

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<v Kathleen Wright>4th  of  July  Fireworks  and  a  few  other  iconic  events 

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<v Kathleen Wright>like  the  Flower  Show  here  in  New  York  City.  And we are 

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<v Kathleen Wright>so  proud  that  we  are  able  to  continue  this  tradition 

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<v Kathleen Wright>and  continue  working  on  this  iconic  event  that  is  so 

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<v Kathleen Wright>beloved  by  New  Yorkers  and  Americans  across  the  country.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  really  is  just  a  staple  of New York and  just  as  Macy's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is,  so  the  two  really  do  go  together.  People  ask 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>me  this  all  the  time  about  the  Marathon,  so  I'll 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>ask  you  regarding  the  parade.  When  do  you  start  planning 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>each  year  for the  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade?

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<v Kathleen Wright>Our  team  typically  starts  planning  about  18  months  in  advance. 

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<v Kathleen Wright>So  that's  everything  from  my  role  of  thinking  about  the 

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<v Kathleen Wright>logistics  of  what  worked  the  last  parade,  what  do  we 

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<v Kathleen Wright>update,  what  do  we  improve?  Who  are  the  new  partners 

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<v Kathleen Wright>that  we  can  bring  in?  How  are  we  designing  the 

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<v Kathleen Wright>next  cool,  new  float,  the  next  incredible,  giant  character  balloon? 

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<v Kathleen Wright>So  all  of  that  work  starts  about 18  months  in  advance. 

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<v Kathleen Wright>We're  always  thinking  about  the  parade  in  the  back  of 

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<v Kathleen Wright>our  minds.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  that's  very  similar  to  Marathon.  We  are  currently  thinking 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>about the  2026  Marathon  on  our  end.  So  obviously  '25's  coming 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>right  up,  but  we've  got  conversations  about  '26,  so  that's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>about  two  years  in  advance  for  us.  '26 is  a  big 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  for  us.  It's  a  big  anniversary.  You  guys  have 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  big  anniversary  as  well  coming  up,  so  I'm  sure 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  work  goes  even  further  out  when  you've  got  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>big  thing  to  celebrate,  like  the  100th  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade.

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<v Kathleen Wright>Yeah.  So  the 100th is coming  up  in  2026.  We  already  have  our 

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<v Kathleen Wright>eyes  on  that.  So  we  are  right  now  simultaneously  thinking 

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<v Kathleen Wright>about  the  parade  that's  coming  up  just  next  week;  the 

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<v Kathleen Wright>2025  parade,  which  will  be  our  99th; and then the 2026,  when  we'll  celebrate 

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<v Kathleen Wright>100  Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day  Parades.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Wow,  that's  amazing.  Another  big  thing  in  2026  because  it's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>going  to  be  the  50th  anniversary  of  the  Five- Borough 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  City  Marathon  in  '26,  and  then  just  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>few  weeks  later  the  100th  Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day Parade. So  that's  going 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to be a  great  month  of  November  in  New  York in  a  couple 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  years.  That's  pretty  exciting.

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<v Kathleen Wright>I  completely  agree.  I  have  always  said  that  November  is 

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<v Kathleen Wright>my  favorite  month  in  New  York  City  for  that  exact 

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<v Kathleen Wright>reason.  So  that'll  be  a  really  fun  one in  2026.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  I  think  another  similarity  between  the  Marathon  and  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thanksgiving  Day  Parade  is  how  many  volunteers  it  takes  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>put  the  event  on.  We  rely  on  about 10, 000  volunteers 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  support  the  runners  going  from  Staten  Island  to  Central 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Park.  And  I  know,  I've  been  to  this  parade  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>few  times,  I  know  how  many  people  volunteer.  I  also 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>know,  similar  to  Marathon,  how  sought- after  some  of  these 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>volunteer  positions  are.  Being  a  clown  or  holding  a  float, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>those  are  prime  assignments  for  volunteers.

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<v Kathleen Wright>Yes,  we  have  about  five  volunteers  that  volunteer  with  us 

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<v Kathleen Wright>on  Thanksgiving  morning.  And  I  think  that  so  much  of 

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<v Kathleen Wright>that  tradition  of  the  original  Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade  back 

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<v Kathleen Wright>in  1924  carries  on  with  us  today  in  that  so 

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<v Kathleen Wright>many  of  those  volunteers  are  Macy's  colleagues,  and  their  friends, 

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<v Kathleen Wright>and  family.  So  we've  really  kind  kept  that  rooted  in 

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<v Kathleen Wright>the  tradition  of  the  Macy's  family  really  continuing  on,  volunteering 

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<v Kathleen Wright>their  time  on  a  holiday  to  come  together  and  celebrate 

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<v Kathleen Wright>Thanksgiving  together.
 And  I  think  that's  in  part  why  it 

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<v Kathleen Wright>is  such  a  coveted  spot  to  be  a  part  of 

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<v Kathleen Wright>the  parade  and  join  and  celebrate  with  us.  It  really 

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<v Kathleen Wright>is  a  wonderful  family  entertainment  event  on  Thanksgiving  morning.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right.  So  let's  talk  about  the  balloons.  And  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>first  thing  I  want  to  ask  is  the  process  for 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>getting  to  be  a  balloon.  You've  got  cultural  trends  that 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>come  and  go.  Maybe  one  year  the  Transformers  are  really 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>popular  and  then  it's  some  anime  character,  but  then  you've 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>got  the  standbys,  like  the  ones  who  seem  to  always 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>be  there.  I  think  Snoopy,  right?  Is  Snoopy  kind  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>an  evergreen  balloon?  I  feel  like  Snoopy  is  never  going 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  really  go  away.  I  hope  not.
 What  is  that 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>process  of  deciding  what  balloons  are  going  to  make  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>cut  every  year?

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<v Kathleen Wright>So  every  year  we  are  always  looking  at  for  what 

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<v Kathleen Wright>is  the  best  in  entertainment,  what  is  the  most  iconic, 

0:16:18.420 --> 0:16:21.630
<v Kathleen Wright>fun,  what's  new  and  fresh,  but  what  is  also  traditional? 

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<v Kathleen Wright>Like  that's  Snoopy  character  balloon.
 And  we  work  very  closely 

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<v Kathleen Wright>with  our  partners  to  incorporate  those  characters  and  then  make 

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<v Kathleen Wright>sure  that  we  are  really  matching  the  essence  of  those 

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<v Kathleen Wright>characters  to  ensure  that  we  are  representing  that  character  to 

0:16:35.100 --> 0:16:37.979
<v Kathleen Wright>exactly  what  they  were  designed  to  look  like  in  their 

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<v Kathleen Wright>original  state.
 So  I  think  some  of  the  really  fun, 

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<v Kathleen Wright>new  balloons  this  year,  there's  six  new  giant  balloons  in 

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<v Kathleen Wright>the  parade.  We  have  Minnie  Mouse  for  the  first  time 

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<v Kathleen Wright>ever,  which  is  so  exciting.  We've  had  a  few  different 

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<v Kathleen Wright>iterations  of  Mickey.  So  Minnie  is  now  in  the  parade 

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<v Kathleen Wright>for  the  very  first  time.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I'm  amazed  that  it is Minnie's  first  appearance.  That's  amazing  that  it's 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>her  first  appearance  in  the  parade.  So  good  for  Minnie.  Congratulations.

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<v Kathleen Wright>Got it.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Girl  power.

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<v Kathleen Wright>Exactly.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Love  it.

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<v Kathleen Wright>Exactly.  Girl  power.  We're  very  excited  about  that  one.  And 

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<v Kathleen Wright>when  we  started  that  process,  it  was  so  important  that 

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<v Kathleen Wright>we  were  making  sure  that  Minnie  really  looked  like  Minnie. 

0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.730
<v Kathleen Wright>And  I  think  that  that's  really  part  of  where  the 

0:17:17.790 --> 0:17:21.690
<v Kathleen Wright>art  and  science  of  our  balloon  team  design  really  comes 

0:17:21.690 --> 0:17:25.200
<v Kathleen Wright>together  because  it  is  a  science  to  design  these  balloons 

0:17:25.230 --> 0:17:27.780
<v Kathleen Wright>and  to  make  sure  that  they  are  aerodynamic  and  have 

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<v Kathleen Wright>enough  lift  to  fly  down  the  parade  route.  But  it 

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<v Kathleen Wright>also  has  to  look  like  Minnie.  And  our  designers  and 

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<v Kathleen Wright>our  creative  teams  are  so  talented  and  making  sure  that 

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<v Kathleen Wright>we  are  representing  Minnie  exactly  as  she  should  be  represented.


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<v Kathleen Wright>So  it's  a  really,  really  interesting  process  to  see  that 

0:17:45.030 --> 0:17:48.359
<v Kathleen Wright>art  and  science  come  together  to  really  develop  and  design 

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<v Kathleen Wright>those  balloons.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>What  else  is  new  this  year?  I'm  curious.

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<v Kathleen Wright>We  also  have  a  new  Spider- Man  balloon  this  year.  Spider-

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<v Kathleen Wright>Man  has  been  in  the  parade  before,  but  we  have 

0:17:56.820 --> 0:17:59.430
<v Kathleen Wright>a  brand  new  balloon  this  year  in  Spider- Man.
 We 

0:17:59.430 --> 0:18:02.070
<v Kathleen Wright>have  a  character  Noorah  from  The  Elf  on  the  Shelf 

0:18:02.070 --> 0:18:06.480
<v Kathleen Wright>series.  She's  a  wintery  fox  and  she's  really  fun,  really 

0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.209
<v Kathleen Wright>pretty.  Her  tail  is  painted  like  the  Northern  Lights.  I 

0:18:09.210 --> 0:18:11.010
<v Kathleen Wright>think  she's  going  to  be  a  real  fan  favorite  on 

0:18:11.010 --> 0:18:15.270
<v Kathleen Wright>the  parade  route.
 We  have  Gabby  from  Gabby's  Dollhouse.  Another, 

0:18:15.270 --> 0:18:18.629
<v Kathleen Wright>I  think a  really  fun  character.  I  think  a  lot  of the 

0:18:18.630 --> 0:18:20.700
<v Kathleen Wright>kids  are  going  to  be  so  excited  about  her  being 

0:18:20.700 --> 0:18:23.940
<v Kathleen Wright>in  the  parade.
 We  have  a  new  Goku balloon  this  year. Goku 

0:18:24.390 --> 0:18:26.639
<v Kathleen Wright>has  been  in  the  parade  for  the  last  few  years, 

0:18:26.820 --> 0:18:30.480
<v Kathleen Wright>so  another  superhero  character  that's  going  to  be  on  the 

0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.960
<v Kathleen Wright>parade  route.  Really  so  many  fans  of Goku  that  we're  so 

0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:38.280
<v Kathleen Wright>excited  to  see.
 And  then  we also have a  new  PAW  Patrol  character. 

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.400
<v Kathleen Wright>So  Chase  has  been  on  the  case,  on  the  parade 

0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.190
<v Kathleen Wright>route  for  several  years  and  now  we  have  Marshall  who 

0:18:44.190 --> 0:18:45.149
<v Kathleen Wright>will  be  joining  us,  and-

0:18:45.300 --> 0:18:47.460
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Marshall's  the  Dalmatian  if  I'm  not  mistaken,  right?

0:18:47.460 --> 0:18:51.359
<v Kathleen Wright>Got  it.  Yes.  So  a  really  fun  character.  We're  really 

0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.040
<v Kathleen Wright>excited  to  see  fly  On  Thanksgiving.

0:18:53.369 --> 0:18:56.639
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  still  know  my  PAW  Patrol  characters  five  or  six 

0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.010
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>years  after  the  last  of  my  children  was  watching  that 

0:18:59.010 --> 0:19:00.869
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>show,  so  I'm  proud  of  myself  on that. But  I  always  liked 

0:19:00.869 --> 0:19:03.090
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Marshall  so  I  was  partial  to  Marshall.

0:19:06.060 --> 0:19:06.149
<v Kathleen Wright>Yes,  very good

0:19:06.150 --> 0:19:09.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  so,  a  night  that  a  lot  of  New  Yorkers 

0:19:09.630 --> 0:19:14.010
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>know  about,  and  people  who  are  every  year  attendees  to 

0:19:14.010 --> 0:19:16.980
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade,  the  Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade,  know 

0:19:16.980 --> 0:19:20.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>about,  but  some  non- New  Yorkers  may  not  know  is 

0:19:20.190 --> 0:19:23.699
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  night  before,  which  is  really  in  a  lot  of 

0:19:23.700 --> 0:19:26.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>ways  kind  of  the  ticket  that  so  many  people  want. 

0:19:26.609 --> 0:19:30.030
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Where  you  get  to  go  and  watch  the  balloons  get 

0:19:30.270 --> 0:19:33.659
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  be  inflated.  There's  streets  I  think  that  are  closed 

0:19:33.990 --> 0:19:36.600
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  the  Upper  West  Side,  near  Central  Park  West,  and 

0:19:36.869 --> 0:19:40.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  inflating  of  the  balloons  is  a  big,  big  tradition.


0:19:40.859 --> 0:19:43.800
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Can  you  talk  about  that  night  and  how  long  it 

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.560
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>takes?  How  many  people  are  involved  in  that?  And  how 

0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>can  someone,  if  they  want  to  check  that  out,  get 

0:19:48.780 --> 0:19:50.730
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  chance  to  see  the  balloons  get  blown  up?

0:19:51.090 --> 0:19:53.939
<v Kathleen Wright>Yeah.  So  the  balloon  inflation  event  I  think  is  something 

0:19:53.940 --> 0:19:57.210
<v Kathleen Wright>that  makes  the  Thanksgiving  Day  parade  so  special  because  it 

0:19:57.210 --> 0:20:00.390
<v Kathleen Wright>is  that  sneak  peek.  It's  that  look  behind  the  curtain. 

0:20:00.390 --> 0:20:02.700
<v Kathleen Wright>How  does  this  all  come  together?  How  do  these  balloons 

0:20:02.910 --> 0:20:04.859
<v Kathleen Wright>all  get  inflated  and  then  make  their  way  down  the 

0:20:04.859 --> 0:20:07.830
<v Kathleen Wright>parade  route  on  Thanksgiving  morning.
 So  on  the  Upper  West 

0:20:07.830 --> 0:20:11.010
<v Kathleen Wright>Side,  we  inflate  all  of  the  balloons  in  the  lineup. 

0:20:11.010 --> 0:20:15.359
<v Kathleen Wright>Starting  on  Wednesday  morning.  It  takes  us  about  eight  hours 

0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Kathleen Wright>to  inflate  the  entire  lineup  of  balloons.  And  we  have 

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.680
<v Kathleen Wright>a  team  of  about  150  balloon  technicians  and  inflation  team 

0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Kathleen Wright>members  that  are  inflating  the  balloons  throughout  the  day.  And 

0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:31.169
<v Kathleen Wright>that  event  is  open  to  the  public  from  1:00 to 6: 00 

0:20:31.170 --> 0:20:35.639
<v Kathleen Wright>PM  on  Wednesday,  the  day  before  Thanksgiving.
 You  can  join 

0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.730
<v Kathleen Wright>the  line  on  72nd  Street,  starting  at  noon  to  get 

0:20:38.730 --> 0:20:41.939
<v Kathleen Wright>in  line,  get  your  spot.  72nd  Street  in  Columbus  is 

0:20:41.940 --> 0:20:43.770
<v Kathleen Wright>where  you'll  enter.  And  then  we'll  take  you  around  the 

0:20:43.770 --> 0:20:46.080
<v Kathleen Wright>queue  line.  You'll  see  all  of  the  balloons  as  they're 

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.109
<v Kathleen Wright>inflated.  And  then  there's  also  the  added  bonus  of  seeing 

0:20:49.109 --> 0:20:51.330
<v Kathleen Wright>some  of  our  floats  in  the  parade  get  assembled  on 

0:20:51.330 --> 0:20:54.959
<v Kathleen Wright>Central  Park  West.  So  it  truly  is  that  behind- the-

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.490
<v Kathleen Wright>scenes  look  at  how  the  parade  is  made  and  built 

0:20:59.970 --> 0:21:00.869
<v Kathleen Wright>that  day  before.

0:21:01.619 --> 0:21:04.260
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  love  it.  I've  actually  never  had  a  chance  to 

0:21:04.260 --> 0:21:07.859
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>go  see  that.  I've  been  to the  the  parade,  I've  been 

0:21:07.859 --> 0:21:09.179
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  the  streets.  I've  had  a  chance  to  be  in 

0:21:09.180 --> 0:21:11.369
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  bleachers  with  my  kids  a  couple  of  times  as 

0:21:11.369 --> 0:21:13.740
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>well,  but  I  got  to  make  a  plan  to  get 

0:21:13.740 --> 0:21:16.500
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>down  there  and  watch  that  inflation  event.  That  sounds  like 

0:21:16.500 --> 0:21:20.850
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  lot  of  fun.
 Kathleen,  there's  something  called  a  balloonical 

0:21:20.850 --> 0:21:23.220
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  I've  been  hearing  about  and  I'm  trying  to  understand 

0:21:23.220 --> 0:21:26.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>what  this  is.  I  know  self- driving  cars  are  a 

0:21:26.310 --> 0:21:30.060
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thing  in  the  world  now,  but  balloonicals  these  things,  they 

0:21:30.060 --> 0:21:32.850
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>basically  don't  need  holders.  Is  that  right?  What  is  a  balloonical?

0:21:34.830 --> 0:21:38.490
<v Kathleen Wright>So a balloonical  is  part  of  the  magic  of  Macy's  Studios.  When 

0:21:38.490 --> 0:21:41.159
<v Kathleen Wright>we  were  tasked  with  trying  to  find  another  fun  and 

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.590
<v Kathleen Wright>new  creative  element  that  could  be  a  part  of  our 

0:21:43.590 --> 0:21:48.659
<v Kathleen Wright>parade,  we  created  balloonicals.  And  they  are  self- driving  inflatables 

0:21:48.660 --> 0:21:51.420
<v Kathleen Wright>that  make  their  way  down  the  parade  route.  So  this 

0:21:51.420 --> 0:21:55.470
<v Kathleen Wright>year  you  will  see  a  few  baby  Dino  Balloonicals  that 

0:21:55.470 --> 0:22:00.359
<v Kathleen Wright>accompany  the  Dino  and  baby  Dino  Sinclair  balloon.  So  they 

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.090
<v Kathleen Wright>will  be  traveling  down  the  parade  route  in  front  of 

0:22:03.090 --> 0:22:07.109
<v Kathleen Wright>that  giant  balloon.
 And  then  we  also  have  a...  If 

0:22:07.109 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Kathleen Wright>you're  familiar  with  the  Diary  of  a  Wimpy  Kid  series, 

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:14.070
<v Kathleen Wright>there  is  the  Stinky  Cheese.  So  the  Stinky  Cheese  is 

0:22:14.070 --> 0:22:18.119
<v Kathleen Wright>a balloonical  that  goes  in  front  of  the  Diary  of  a 

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.880
<v Kathleen Wright>Wimpy  Kid  balloon.  So  they're  really  fun  and  just  cool 

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Kathleen Wright>new  elements  that  you'll  see  on  the  parade  route.

0:22:22.890 --> 0:22:25.380
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Are  they  like  drones  out  there,  doing  their  own  thing? 

0:22:25.380 --> 0:22:26.129
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Are  they  tethered?

0:22:27.270 --> 0:22:30.510
<v Kathleen Wright>They're  not  tethered.  So  there  is  actually  a  person  inside 

0:22:30.510 --> 0:22:32.730
<v Kathleen Wright>of  it  that  kind  of  controls  it  with  almost  like 

0:22:33.630 --> 0:22:38.879
<v Kathleen Wright>a  stick  shift  that  drives  almost  like  a  remote  control.

0:22:39.150 --> 0:22:40.680
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Like  a  little  blimp  kind  of  a  thing?  Wow.

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:44.130
<v Kathleen Wright>Kind of.  But  they're  on  the  ground,  so  they  just  drive 

0:22:44.130 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Kathleen Wright>on  the  ground  in  front  of  the  balloons.

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:49.260
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Fun,  fun,  fun.  I  love  it.  There's  so  many  similarities, 

0:22:49.260 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Kathleen,  really  between  the  Marathon  and  the  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade. 

0:22:53.910 --> 0:22:56.340
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Another  of  course,  is  the  fact  that  you're  both  a 

0:22:56.340 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>live  event  for  people  who  are  there  watching  in  person, 

0:22:59.790 --> 0:23:02.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  well  as  a  made- for- television  event  with  millions 

0:23:02.310 --> 0:23:06.389
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  people  around  the  country  watching  it  live.
 My  daughter 

0:23:06.390 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  obsessed  with  getting  up  to  watch  it.  In  fact, 

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.300
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I'll  tell  you  a  funny  story,  Kathleen.  And  some  listeners 

0:23:12.300 --> 0:23:16.350
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>can  probably  relate  to  this.  We  have  an  annual  kind 

0:23:16.350 --> 0:23:19.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  a  battle  in  our  household  about  Thanksgiving  morning  and 

0:23:19.890 --> 0:23:23.220
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>what  to  do  because  I...  Of  course,  this  won't  surprise 

0:23:23.220 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  given  what  I  do  for  a  living  love  a 

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:26.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>good  turkey  trot.

0:23:26.100 --> 0:23:26.160
<v Kathleen Wright>Of  course.

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:30.060
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  so  there's  a  great  five- mile  turkey  trot  not 

0:23:30.060 --> 0:23:32.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>far  from  my  house.  And  so  I'm  up  and  out 

0:23:32.430 --> 0:23:35.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  door  and  I'm  running  on  Thanksgiving  morning,  burning  some 

0:23:35.130 --> 0:23:39.060
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>calories,  getting  ready  for  that  turkey.  But  my  daughters  are  like, "

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>No,  thanks."  They  want  to  lie  in  bed  and  watch 

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.880
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade.  So  I  know  this  argument 

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:50.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>probably  plays  out  across  households  all  around  America,  especially  running 

0:23:50.190 --> 0:23:52.740
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>households.  But I  just  want  you  to  know  that  that's  what 

0:23:52.740 --> 0:23:53.460
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>happens  in  my  house.

0:23:53.820 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Kathleen Wright>Yeah,  that  makes  perfect  sense.  I'm  certainly  not  going  up 

0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.250
<v Kathleen Wright>for  a  jog  on  Thanksgiving  morning,  but  I  feel  like 

0:23:59.250 --> 0:24:02.250
<v Kathleen Wright>I'm  running  around  all  morning,  making  sure  that  everything...  Checking 

0:24:02.250 --> 0:24:05.340
<v Kathleen Wright>off  all  of  my  boxes  and  making  sure  that  everything 

0:24:05.340 --> 0:24:08.369
<v Kathleen Wright>is  up and  running.
 And  I  think  that  you  said  it, 

0:24:08.369 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Kathleen Wright>there's  so  many  similarities  between  these  two  events.  As  someone 

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Kathleen Wright>who's  ran  the  marathon  before,  I'm  always  looking  at  all 

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:18.540
<v Kathleen Wright>of  those  logistics,  and  all  of  those  things  that  happen 

0:24:18.810 --> 0:24:23.220
<v Kathleen Wright>in  the  lead  up.  The  busing  operation  alone  of  getting 

0:24:23.220 --> 0:24:27.419
<v Kathleen Wright>so  many  people  from  point  A  to  point  B.  Getting 

0:24:27.420 --> 0:24:31.169
<v Kathleen Wright>all of  our  participants  from  costuming  up  to  the  starting  line 

0:24:31.500 --> 0:24:33.690
<v Kathleen Wright>feels  to  me  very  similar  to  when  I  get  off 

0:24:33.690 --> 0:24:35.430
<v Kathleen Wright>the  ferry  in  Staten  Island  and  get  on  a  bus 

0:24:35.430 --> 0:24:37.619
<v Kathleen Wright>and  get  over  to  the  starting  line.
 So  there's  so 

0:24:37.619 --> 0:24:43.619
<v Kathleen Wright>many  logistical  similarities  that  are  so  fun  for  someone  who's 

0:24:43.619 --> 0:24:47.940
<v Kathleen Wright>in  operations  and  logistics.  And  I  think  it's  just  so 

0:24:47.940 --> 0:24:52.409
<v Kathleen Wright>great  to  see  that  two  iconic,  amazing  events  in  New 

0:24:52.410 --> 0:24:55.470
<v Kathleen Wright>York  City  that  are  so  alike  and  so  special.

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.859
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>How  do  you  balance  that  in- person  experience  for  the 

0:24:58.859 --> 0:25:02.790
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>live  spectators  and  the  television  experience?  I  know  there's  that 

0:25:03.300 --> 0:25:06.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>stage  right  in  front  of  Macy's,  which  is  the  main 

0:25:06.570 --> 0:25:09.389
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>stage,  where  a  lot  of  the  acts  will  stop  and 

0:25:09.390 --> 0:25:12.540
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>perform.  And  there's  bleachers  there.  So  that  seems  to  be 

0:25:12.540 --> 0:25:14.609
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>where  a  lot  of  the  made- for- TV  stuff  happens. 

0:25:14.609 --> 0:25:17.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  then  obviously  you've  got  cameras  all  along  the  route 

0:25:17.130 --> 0:25:18.090
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>showing  their  balloons.

0:25:19.230 --> 0:25:23.220
<v Kathleen Wright>Yeah,  so  I  think  that one of the  great  things  about  the  Macy's 

0:25:23.220 --> 0:25:26.340
<v Kathleen Wright>Thanksgiving  Day  Parade  is  that  you  can  experience  it  in 

0:25:26.340 --> 0:25:29.490
<v Kathleen Wright>so  many  different  ways.  Whether  you're  standing  on  the  side 

0:25:29.490 --> 0:25:32.100
<v Kathleen Wright>of  Central  Park  West,  or  on  6th  Avenue,  or  you're 

0:25:32.100 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Kathleen Wright>tuning  in  from  home,  you're  still  going  to  see  and 

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:39.869
<v Kathleen Wright>feel  that  excitement  of  parade  morning.  You're  still  going  to 

0:25:39.869 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Kathleen Wright>see  those  giant  balloons,  you're  still  going  to  hear  those 

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Kathleen Wright>bands  playing.
 There's  so  many  different  special  effects  on  our 

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Kathleen Wright>floats  this  year  that  I  think  will  really  translate,  whether 

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.820
<v Kathleen Wright>you  see  them  live  and  in  person  on  the  streets 

0:25:50.820 --> 0:25:53.850
<v Kathleen Wright>of  New  York  or  if  you're  tuning  in  and  watching 

0:25:53.850 --> 0:25:57.060
<v Kathleen Wright>from  home.
 And  I  think  that  that  is  what  makes 

0:25:57.060 --> 0:25:59.130
<v Kathleen Wright>the  parade  so  special  is  that  no  matter  how  you're 

0:25:59.130 --> 0:26:03.030
<v Kathleen Wright>watching  it,  you're  going  to  feel  it.  You're  going  to 

0:26:03.090 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Kathleen Wright>feel  like  the  holiday  season  is  really  starting  and  you're 

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Kathleen Wright>going  to  love  it.

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  will  give  you  this,  you  guys  get  a  lot 

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.389
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  spectators,  three  million  spectators  and  just  two  and  a 

0:26:12.390 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>half  miles  of  New  York  City  Street.  That's  pretty  good. 

0:26:16.020 --> 0:26:19.170
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  I'm  not  surprised.  It's  obviously  such  a  sought- after 

0:26:19.170 --> 0:26:21.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thing.  And  then  of  course,  a  huge  television  audience  as 

0:26:21.810 --> 0:26:25.830
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>well.  So  a  lot  of  fun  for  everybody  involved.
 There's 

0:26:25.830 --> 0:26:28.260
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>also  of  course,  what  you,  I'm  sure  have  to  do, 

0:26:28.260 --> 0:26:30.419
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  well  as  we  do,  which  is  the  partnerships  that 

0:26:30.420 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  must  have  to  have  with  the  city  of  New 

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:37.230
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York,  the  NYPD,  and  Department  of  Transportation,  and  all  those 

0:26:37.230 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>things  as  well.  We  couldn't  possibly  come  close  to  putting 

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  marathon  on  without  the  incredible  partnership  we  have  with 

0:26:42.810 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  city.  For  you  guys,  I  know  it's  the  same  way.

0:26:46.109 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Kathleen Wright>Yes,  completely  agree.  It's  such  a  great  partnership  working  with 

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:54.390
<v Kathleen Wright>all  of  those  city  agencies,  whether  it's  NYPD, DOT,  the  Mayor's 

0:26:54.390 --> 0:26:56.970
<v Kathleen Wright>office.  All  of  them  are  so  involved  in  helping  us 

0:26:56.970 --> 0:27:00.270
<v Kathleen Wright>coordinate  this  event  and  making  sure  that  it's  not  only 

0:27:00.270 --> 0:27:04.410
<v Kathleen Wright>safe,  but  also  special  and  wonderful  for  everyone  watching.
 And 

0:27:04.410 --> 0:27:06.300
<v Kathleen Wright>I  think  that  there's  so  many  different  elements  of  our 

0:27:06.300 --> 0:27:11.130
<v Kathleen Wright>parade  that  couldn't  happen  without  their  partnership  and  coordination.  And 

0:27:11.130 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Kathleen Wright>one  of  the  stories  that  I  love  to  tell  about 

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.020
<v Kathleen Wright>the  parade  that  I  think  is  the  thing  that  you 

0:27:16.020 --> 0:27:18.450
<v Kathleen Wright>don't  realize  has  to  happen  in  order  for  the  parade 

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.780
<v Kathleen Wright>to  happen.  We  work  so  closely  with  the  Department  of 

0:27:21.780 --> 0:27:27.540
<v Kathleen Wright>Transportation  on  our  route  preparation  for  the  parade  route  because 

0:27:27.540 --> 0:27:30.659
<v Kathleen Wright>in  order  to  fly  our  balloons  down  Central  Park  West 

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:34.350
<v Kathleen Wright>across  Central  Park  South,  down  6th  Avenue,  we  have  to 

0:27:34.350 --> 0:27:38.129
<v Kathleen Wright>turn  every  single  traffic  light  out  of  the  street  so 

0:27:38.130 --> 0:27:41.609
<v Kathleen Wright>that  our  balloons  can  fly.
 And  so  we  work really closely with them.  We 

0:27:41.609 --> 0:27:44.490
<v Kathleen Wright>do  several  walk- throughs  throughout  the  fall  to  look  and 

0:27:44.490 --> 0:27:47.850
<v Kathleen Wright>identify  all  of  those  different  traffic  poles.  Which  way  do 

0:27:47.850 --> 0:27:50.250
<v Kathleen Wright>they  have  to  swing?  How  much  time  is  it  going 

0:27:50.250 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Kathleen Wright>to  take  us  on  that  Wednesday  night  before  the  parade 

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:57.750
<v Kathleen Wright>morning  to do this in the dark of the  night?
 And  it's  one  of  those  things that I don't think  people 

0:27:57.750 --> 0:28:00.990
<v Kathleen Wright>necessarily  realize  has  to  happen.  Of  course,  a  balloon  can't 

0:28:00.990 --> 0:28:03.899
<v Kathleen Wright>fly  down  the  street  with  anything  in  its  way,  but 

0:28:04.500 --> 0:28:06.929
<v Kathleen Wright>that  I  think  is  one  of  my  favorite  parts  of 

0:28:06.930 --> 0:28:08.189
<v Kathleen Wright>our  coordination  with  the  city.

0:28:08.820 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  noticed  that  the  first  time  I  went  to  see 

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.669
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  parade,  standing  on  6th  Avenue.  And I  was  just  looking 

0:28:14.670 --> 0:28:17.640
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  6th Avenue  and  I  was  like, " Something  looks  different."  And 

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.730
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  realized, " Wait,  there  are  no  traffic  lights  on  this 

0:28:20.730 --> 0:28:24.750
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>entire  avenue,"  and  for  obvious  reasons.  It's  actually  amazing  that 

0:28:24.750 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  can  even  do  that.  Who  knew  that  they  even 

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>swung  that  way?  But  that's  something  that  had  to  happen 

0:28:29.310 --> 0:28:31.859
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  to  make  this  parade  possible.
 What  time  did  the 

0:28:31.859 --> 0:28:34.710
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>streets  close?  What  time  did  all  the  streets  close,  but 

0:28:34.710 --> 0:28:37.050
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  night  before  the  marathon?  Sorry,  a  marathon.  See,  I 

0:28:37.050 --> 0:28:39.209
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>can't  get  out  of  my  head?  Before  the  parade.

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.020
<v Kathleen Wright>So  it's  a  rolling  closure  based  on  how  quickly  we're 

0:28:43.020 --> 0:28:49.020
<v Kathleen Wright>doing  those  route  preparations.  So  we  start  uptown  at  around 

0:28:49.020 --> 0:28:54.300
<v Kathleen Wright>midnight  on  the  Wednesday  before,  so 12: 00  AM  Wednesday,  we 

0:28:54.300 --> 0:28:57.210
<v Kathleen Wright>start  our  route  preparation  for  uptown,  so  that  we  can 

0:28:57.210 --> 0:28:59.250
<v Kathleen Wright>ensure  our  floats  are  positioned  and  our  balloons  are  in 

0:28:59.250 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Kathleen Wright>position.
 And  then  on  that  overnight  of  Wednesday  evening  into 

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:07.740
<v Kathleen Wright>parade  morning,  we  roll  that  street  closure  down  to  34th 

0:29:07.740 --> 0:29:10.770
<v Kathleen Wright>Street  as  we  go.  So  it's  a  very  coordinated  effort 

0:29:11.070 --> 0:29:13.470
<v Kathleen Wright>of  making  sure  that  streets  are  closed  so  route  prep 

0:29:13.470 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Kathleen Wright>can  happen.  All  to  get  us  ready  before  our  8:

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Kathleen Wright>30  AM  step  off  on  Thanksgiving  morning.

0:29:20.550 --> 0:29:23.550
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  love  it.
 What  is  your  day  like  on  Thanksgiving 

0:29:23.550 --> 0:29:25.650
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Day?  What  time  do  you  have  to  get  on  site? 

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.380
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  funny,  I  love  asking  you  these  questions  because  these 

0:29:28.380 --> 0:29:30.870
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>are  all  the  questions  that  people  ask  me  about  the 

0:29:30.870 --> 0:29:35.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>marathon.  Are  you  there  overnight?  Do  you  get  to  get 

0:29:35.190 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  few  hours  sleep  before  you  show  up  for  the  parade?

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:41.550
<v Kathleen Wright>I  get  a  few  hours  of  sleep  and  everyone  always 

0:29:41.550 --> 0:29:44.790
<v Kathleen Wright>asks  like, " Oh,  you  must  be  so  tired,"  but  you're 

0:29:44.790 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Kathleen Wright>working  off  of  adrenaline.  It's  one  of  my  favorite  days 

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:52.260
<v Kathleen Wright>of  the  year,  of  course.  And  it's  just  exciting.  You 

0:29:52.260 --> 0:29:54.690
<v Kathleen Wright>can't  sleep  when  you're  this  excited.  So  my  day  typically 

0:29:54.690 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Kathleen Wright>starts  at  around  3: 00  AM.  I'll  start  downtown  near 

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:03.180
<v Kathleen Wright>34th  Street,  making  sure  that  our  grandstands  down  near  34th 

0:30:03.180 --> 0:30:06.690
<v Kathleen Wright>Street  are  all  installed.  We  have  some  marching  band  rehearsals 

0:30:06.690 --> 0:30:09.330
<v Kathleen Wright>that  take  place  that  early  in  the  morning.
 I  eventually 

0:30:09.330 --> 0:30:12.630
<v Kathleen Wright>will  make  my  way  uptown  to  the  starting  line,  start 

0:30:12.630 --> 0:30:15.810
<v Kathleen Wright>seeing  our  participants  start  to  arrive,  maybe  rehearse  the  opening 

0:30:15.810 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Kathleen Wright>number  a  few  times.  And  then  once  the  parade  begins, 

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.770
<v Kathleen Wright>I  am  everywhere.  I'm  on  a  golf  cart,  I'm  kind 

0:30:22.770 --> 0:30:24.810
<v Kathleen Wright>of  up  and  down  the  parade  route,  just  making  sure 

0:30:25.290 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Kathleen Wright>that  everything  is  running  smoothly,  checking  in  on  our  volunteers 

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:33.090
<v Kathleen Wright>and  our  operations  teams.  And  when  you  get  home,  there's 

0:30:33.090 --> 0:30:35.850
<v Kathleen Wright>a  nice  turkey  dinner  waiting  for  you,  and  it's  a 

0:30:35.850 --> 0:30:36.390
<v Kathleen Wright>great  day.

0:30:37.140 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  the  timing  of  it  is  great  because  you're  wrapped 

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.790
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  and  ready  to  get  home  to  have  dinner,  so 

0:30:41.790 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it's  a  beautiful  thing.
 Okay.  What  about  the  celebrities  this 

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.260
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year?  I've  got  to  ask  this  for  my  daughters.  Who 

0:30:46.260 --> 0:30:48.780
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>are  the  big  stars  that  we  can  all  look  forward 

0:30:48.780 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  seeing  perform  in  the  parade  this  year?

0:30:52.140 --> 0:30:55.020
<v Kathleen Wright>Yeah,  we've  got  a  great  list  of  stars.  I  think 

0:30:55.410 --> 0:30:58.110
<v Kathleen Wright>some  of  my  favorites.  We  have  Idina  Menzel,  who's  going 

0:30:58.110 --> 0:31:01.620
<v Kathleen Wright>to  be  performing  on  our  new  Wondrous  World  of  Wildlife 

0:31:01.620 --> 0:31:05.070
<v Kathleen Wright>float.  That's  a  float  by  the  Bronx  Zoo  that  is 

0:31:05.070 --> 0:31:08.940
<v Kathleen Wright>new  to  this  year's  parade,  and  just  so  stunning.
 We 

0:31:08.940 --> 0:31:11.580
<v Kathleen Wright>also  have  Rachel  Platten  who  will  be  performing  on  a 

0:31:11.580 --> 0:31:15.750
<v Kathleen Wright>new  float.  She  will  be  on  the  Rao's Pasta  Night  float, 

0:31:15.750 --> 0:31:18.660
<v Kathleen Wright>which  I  think  is  a  great  one.  Of  course,  for 

0:31:18.660 --> 0:31:21.030
<v Kathleen Wright>runners  too.  A  little  pasta  dinner  the  night  before  a 

0:31:21.030 --> 0:31:24.420
<v Kathleen Wright>long  run.  We  love  it.
 We  also  have  Bishop  Briggs, 

0:31:24.420 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Kathleen Wright>who's  going  to  be  on  Wednesday.  Wednesday's  Feast,  that's  another 

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Kathleen Wright>one  that  is  in  partnership  with  Netflix.
 And  who  can 

0:31:32.490 --> 0:31:35.370
<v Kathleen Wright>forget  Santa  Claus,  of  course,  the  biggest  celebrity  of  the 

0:31:35.370 --> 0:31:38.250
<v Kathleen Wright>day.  Kind  of  closing  things  out  for  us  at the end of  the  parade.

0:31:38.940 --> 0:31:41.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Oh,  I'm  already  excited  about  this.  Okay,  this  sounds  great. 

0:31:41.130 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I'm  going  to  definitely  have  to  watch  the  replay  after 

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.140
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  get  back  from  my  turkey  trot,  so  I  can 

0:31:46.140 --> 0:31:49.020
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>catch  all  of  that.  Because  that  sounds  amazing.
 All  right, 

0:31:49.020 --> 0:31:51.870
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>so  you've  run  the  marathon  and  you've  put  on  the 

0:31:51.870 --> 0:31:56.730
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Macy's  Thanksgiving  Day  Parade.  So  what  is  the  biggest  similarity, 

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.730
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Kathleen,  do  you  think,  between  these  two  events?  What  do 

0:31:59.730 --> 0:32:01.321
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  think  they  have  most  in common?

0:32:01.321 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Kathleen Wright>I think that one of the biggest things they have in  common  is  the  fandom.  You  said  it  at  the 

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Kathleen Wright>beginning  of  this,  the  New  York  City  Marathon  is  one 

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.310
<v Kathleen Wright>of  the  best  days  to  be  a  New  Yorker,  to 

0:32:14.310 --> 0:32:18.209
<v Kathleen Wright>be  outside,  to  be  in  New  York  with  millions  of 

0:32:18.210 --> 0:32:20.670
<v Kathleen Wright>other  New  Yorkers.  And  I  think  that  that  is  the 

0:32:20.670 --> 0:32:23.850
<v Kathleen Wright>same  feeling  that  you  see  on  Thanksgiving  morning.  People  are 

0:32:23.850 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Kathleen Wright>just  excited  to  be  there.  They're  excited  to  be  cheering 

0:32:28.650 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Kathleen Wright>on  the  people  who  are  in  the  parade  or  in 

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.410
<v Kathleen Wright>the  marathon.  And  there's  a  sense  of  community  on  those 

0:32:34.410 --> 0:32:39.330
<v Kathleen Wright>days  that  is  truly  unmatched,  I  think  anywhere.  Not  only 

0:32:39.330 --> 0:32:41.250
<v Kathleen Wright>in  New  York,  I  think  anywhere.
 And  I  think  that 

0:32:41.250 --> 0:32:43.140
<v Kathleen Wright>the  fact  that  both  of  these  events  are  in  New 

0:32:43.140 --> 0:32:46.860
<v Kathleen Wright>York,  as  a  New  Yorker,  maybe  I'm  biased,  but  I 

0:32:46.860 --> 0:32:49.050
<v Kathleen Wright>do  think  that  that  is  what  makes  these  events  so 

0:32:49.050 --> 0:32:53.070
<v Kathleen Wright>special is  that  sense  of  community  when  you're  out  on  the 

0:32:53.070 --> 0:32:57.270
<v Kathleen Wright>street  just  with  your  friends  and  family  and  even  strangers, 

0:32:57.270 --> 0:32:58.890
<v Kathleen Wright>and  just  being  in  it  together.

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:03.150
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Well, I'll tell you, and  that  sounds  right  to  me.  I  completely  agree.  We 

0:33:03.150 --> 0:33:05.610
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>both  like  to  have  good  weather.  That  makes  a  big 

0:33:05.610 --> 0:33:08.550
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>difference.  Weather  makes  a  huge  difference.  I  know  for  you 

0:33:08.550 --> 0:33:11.670
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>guys  especially,  the  key  is  not  to  have  a  lot 

0:33:11.670 --> 0:33:14.580
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  wind.  I  know  that's  always  a  big  factor.  People 

0:33:14.580 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>are  looking  a  day  or  two  in  advance  to  see 

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>if  the  balloons  are  going  to  be  able  to  fly 

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.300
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>at  their  maximum  height  or  whether  you're  going  to  have 

0:33:21.300 --> 0:33:23.460
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  bring  them  down  when  the  wind  is  high.  So 

0:33:23.850 --> 0:33:26.010
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  wish  you  guys  low  winds  this  year,  a  sunny 

0:33:26.010 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>day.  I  know  that  makes  a  big  difference.

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Kathleen Wright>Yes,  we  are  keeping  our  eyes  on  the  weather.  I 

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Kathleen Wright>try  not  to  look  too  far  in  advance.  And  we've 

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:38.490
<v Kathleen Wright>got  all  the  teams  in  place  to  ensure  that  rain 

0:33:38.490 --> 0:33:40.830
<v Kathleen Wright>or  shine  the  parade  will  march  on.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.690
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Well,  I  always  say  that the  TCS  New  York  City  Marathon 

0:33:45.690 --> 0:33:47.850
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  the  best  day  of  the  year  in  New  York. 

0:33:47.940 --> 0:33:51.630
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  the  only  time  anyone  ever  says, " Ah,  but  what 

0:33:51.630 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>about?"  Is  always  the  Thanksgiving  Day  parade.  The  Macy's  Thanksgiving 

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.860
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Day  Parade.  So  maybe  we  can  call  it  a  draw. 

0:33:58.860 --> 0:34:00.361
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>How's  that?  Do  you  want  to  settle  for  that?

0:34:00.361 --> 0:34:02.191
<v Kathleen Wright>I like that.  I'll  settle  for  that.

0:34:02.191 --> 0:34:05.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>The  two  best  days  of  the  year  in  New  York 

0:34:05.130 --> 0:34:07.710
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>City,  the  TCS  New  York  City  Marathon  and  the  Macy's 

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thanksgiving  Day  Parade.
 Kathleen,  so  much  fun  talking  to  you 

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.890
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>about  this.  I  wish  you  luck  with  the  parade  this 

0:34:13.890 --> 0:34:17.910
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year.  We'll  all  be  watching  it  live  or  on  television. 

0:34:17.910 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  thanks  for  keeping  up  an  amazing  tradition.  It's  not 

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:26.969
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>always  easy  to  keep  up  these  traditions.  There's  sometimes  expense 

0:34:26.969 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>involved  and  it  can  be  hard,  but  Macy's  has  kept 

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.750
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>going.  It's  up  there  with  Rockefeller  Center  Christmas  Tree  and 

0:34:34.140 --> 0:34:37.649
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>all the  special  things  that  make  New  York  over  the  holidays 

0:34:37.650 --> 0:34:40.110
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>magical.  So  thank  you  so  much  for  what  you  do 

0:34:40.110 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  what  Macy's  does,  and  we  can't  wait.

0:34:42.870 --> 0:34:44.610
<v Kathleen Wright>I  can't  wait  either.  Thanks  so  much.  It's  been  so 

0:34:44.610 --> 0:34:45.509
<v Kathleen Wright>great  talking  to  you.

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.230
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  thank  you  so  much  Kathleen  for  joining  us 

0:35:01.230 --> 0:35:04.020
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  today's  episode,  and  we  hope  you  have  a  great 

0:35:04.380 --> 0:35:08.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thanksgiving  Day  Parade.
 For  today's  member  moment,  we're  excited  to 

0:35:08.100 --> 0:35:12.390
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>chat  with Khia  Kurtenbach,  who  recently  made  history  by  winning  the 

0:35:12.390 --> 0:35:16.410
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>inaugural  every  Woman's  Marathon  in  Savannah,  Georgia  this  past  November.


0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:21.029
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Since 2019,  Khia  has  been  a  familiar  face  in  the  New 

0:35:21.030 --> 0:35:25.649
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  Road  Runners'  community  completing  an  impressive  31  races.  Khia 

0:35:25.650 --> 0:35:29.070
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>works  in  finance  by  day,  but  nights  and  weekends,  it 

0:35:29.070 --> 0:35:31.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  all  about  running.  From  her  early  days  as  a 

0:35:31.590 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>swimmer  to  becoming  an  NCAA  Division  III  cross- country  champion. 

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Very  impressive.
 Khia,  here  with  us  today  to  talk  about 

0:35:38.430 --> 0:35:41.339
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>how  running  has  become  such  a  big  part  of  her  life.

0:35:41.850 --> 0:35:44.910
<v Meb>Thanks,  Rob.
 Welcome  to  the  (inaudible) ,  Khia.  How  are  you?

0:35:45.750 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Khia Kurtenbach>I'm  good.  It's  great  to  be  here  and  it's  great 

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:48.299
<v Khia Kurtenbach>to  meet  you.

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<v Meb>It's  pleasure  to  meet  you.  Well,  congratulations.  You  have  come 

0:35:52.170 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Meb>from  a  running  family.  Your  mother  has  been  running  the 

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<v Meb>Grandma's  Marathon  since  1980s.  Tell  us  about  what  it's  like 

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<v Meb>growing  up  with  your  mother  as  a  marathoner.

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>Yeah,  my  mom  has  been  running  marathons  for  decades.  I 

0:36:06.540 --> 0:36:09.060
<v Khia Kurtenbach>think  she  started  running  marathons,  like  you  said,  in  the 

0:36:09.060 --> 0:36:13.140
<v Khia Kurtenbach>eighties.  And  when  I  was  growing  up,  it  was  a 

0:36:13.140 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Khia Kurtenbach>family  event.  Every  fall  she  would  run  a  marathon  and 

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Khia Kurtenbach>my  dad  would  load  my  sister  and I in the  car  and  we 

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.690
<v Khia Kurtenbach>would  drive  from  spot  to  spot  along  the  course  of 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>whatever  marathon  she  was  running  to  cheer  for  her.  And 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>I  remember  always  just  being  so  proud  of  my  mom. 

0:36:27.780 --> 0:36:29.969
<v Khia Kurtenbach>And  also  how  much  fun  it  was  to  cheer  her 

0:36:29.969 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Khia Kurtenbach>on  as  she  was  running  marathons.
 And  I  was  not 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>a  runner  growing  up,  but  her  approach  to  sport,  and 

0:36:37.860 --> 0:36:41.219
<v Khia Kurtenbach>wanting  to  be  competitive,  and  just  be  an  athlete  I 

0:36:41.219 --> 0:36:44.460
<v Khia Kurtenbach>think  really  inspired  me  to  do  the  same.  And  then 

0:36:44.550 --> 0:36:46.650
<v Khia Kurtenbach>when  I  got  into  running  in  college  and  then  after 

0:36:46.650 --> 0:36:50.730
<v Khia Kurtenbach>college,  it  was  just  supernatural  to  want  to  do  marathons 

0:36:50.730 --> 0:36:52.620
<v Khia Kurtenbach>after  seeing  how  much  fun  she  had  doing  it  over 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>the  years.

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<v Meb>So much  fun  she  had.  But  you  were  also  by  accident, 

0:36:56.430 --> 0:37:00.540
<v Meb>you  were  training  as  a  runner.  But  you  transitioned  from 

0:37:00.660 --> 0:37:03.510
<v Meb>swimming  to  running  late  in  your  high  school  career  and 

0:37:03.510 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Meb>quickly  found  success.  How  did  your  experience  as  a  swimmer 

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.290
<v Meb>influenced  your  approach  to  distance  running  and  what  challenge  did 

0:37:10.290 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Meb>you  face  in  adapting  to  the  new  sport  so  rapidly?

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>So  when  I  first  started  running,  it  was  really  difficult 

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Khia Kurtenbach>because  when  you're  a  swimmer  you  don't  hear  yourself  breathing. 

0:37:21.989 --> 0:37:25.260
<v Khia Kurtenbach>And  even  though  I  was  very  cardiovascularly  fit,  because  swimming 

0:37:25.260 --> 0:37:29.250
<v Khia Kurtenbach>is  also  somewhat  an  endurance  sport,  it  was  kind  of 

0:37:29.250 --> 0:37:31.500
<v Khia Kurtenbach>scary  to  me when  I  first  started  running.  I  would  hear 

0:37:31.500 --> 0:37:34.739
<v Khia Kurtenbach>myself  breathing  hard  and  that  really  freaked  me  out.  So 

0:37:34.739 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Khia Kurtenbach>at  first  I  actually  didn't  like  running  at  all.
 And 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>I  think  that's  true  for  a  lot  of  swimmers.  Swimmers 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>when  they  first  try  running  really  don't  like  it  because 

0:37:43.140 --> 0:37:47.609
<v Khia Kurtenbach>it's  kind  of  a  mental  adjustment,  both  hearing  yourself  breathe 

0:37:47.610 --> 0:37:50.190
<v Khia Kurtenbach>and  feeling  the  pounding.  But  when  I  was  a  senior 

0:37:50.190 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Khia Kurtenbach>in  high  school,  one  of  my  best  friends  was  on 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>the  track  team  and  she  was  like, " Come  do  track 

0:37:55.230 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Khia Kurtenbach>with  me.  It  will  be  so  fun."  And  I  gave 

0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.700
<v Khia Kurtenbach>it  a  shot  and  went  out  for  the  track  team. 

0:37:59.700 --> 0:38:02.070
<v Khia Kurtenbach>And  after  a  couple  of  weeks  I  was  like, " Wow, 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>this  sport  is  so  much  fun.  Where  has  it  been 

0:38:03.810 --> 0:38:06.029
<v Khia Kurtenbach>my  whole  life?"  And  totally  just  fell  in  love  with 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>running  that  first  season  of  track  in  high  school.

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<v Meb>Can  you  give  a  little  perspective  of  how  similar  or 

0:38:12.660 --> 0:38:14.850
<v Meb>how  different  they  are?  Because  people  see  me  as  a 

0:38:14.850 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Meb>marathon  runner, " You're  going  to  be  a  great  swimmer,"  and 

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Meb>I  can't  swim  save  my  life.  So  how  has  that 

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<v Meb>has  been  for  you?

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>I  think  they're  actually  pretty  different.  The  training  is  totally 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>different.  In  swimming,  you  can  swim  for  hours  and  hours 

0:38:28.739 --> 0:38:30.900
<v Khia Kurtenbach>and  hours  and  not  really  get  hurt.  And  in  running 

0:38:30.900 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Khia Kurtenbach>it's  so  much  more  important  to  manage  your  mileage  and 

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Khia Kurtenbach>ramp  up  slowly.  And  the  pounding  is  just  a  lot 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>harder  on  your  body,  so  you  have  to  think  totally 

0:38:40.140 --> 0:38:43.890
<v Khia Kurtenbach>differently  about  how  much  you  can  train,  and  how  to 

0:38:43.890 --> 0:38:46.260
<v Khia Kurtenbach>build  up  to  that.
 I  do  think  the  thing  that's 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>similar  is  the  mindset.  Both  swimmers  and  runners,  you  have 

0:38:50.610 --> 0:38:53.609
<v Khia Kurtenbach>to  have  a  long- term  perspective  on  your  goals.  It's 

0:38:53.610 --> 0:38:56.580
<v Khia Kurtenbach>not  about  even  necessarily  what  am  I  going  to  accomplish 

0:38:56.580 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Khia Kurtenbach>this  season  or  this  month,  but  more  you  think  in 

0:39:00.300 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Khia Kurtenbach>months  or  even  years  timeframe  about  your  goals  and  how 

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.660
<v Khia Kurtenbach>you'll  step  towards  them.  So  I  think  that's  very  similar, 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>the  mindset  and  how  you  think  about  goal  setting,  and  long-

0:39:09.660 --> 0:39:12.090
<v Khia Kurtenbach>term  goals.  But  the  training  is  actually  super  different.

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<v Meb>That's  great  to  hear.
 Your  journey  from  a  novice  runner 

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<v Meb>to  NCAA  Division  III  cross- country  champion  and  now  successful 

0:39:20.910 --> 0:39:25.650
<v Meb>marathoner  is  remarkable.  How  was  your  perspective  on  running  evolve 

0:39:25.650 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Meb>on  early  days  at  the  University  of  Chicago  to  running 

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<v Meb>five  TCS  New  York  City  marathons?

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>Well,  when  I  first  started  running  in  college,  I  was 

0:39:34.469 --> 0:39:38.610
<v Khia Kurtenbach>really  lucky  because  I  basically  knew  almost  nothing  when  I 

0:39:38.610 --> 0:39:40.890
<v Khia Kurtenbach>first  started  running  in  college.  And  I  had  a  really 

0:39:40.890 --> 0:39:44.489
<v Khia Kurtenbach>great  coach  and  teammates  who  taught  me  lots  of  things, 

0:39:44.489 --> 0:39:48.690
<v Khia Kurtenbach>and  helped  take  a  long- term  approach  to  my  starting 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>to  run,  and  think  about  building  up.  So I'm really  grateful  to 

0:39:52.140 --> 0:39:56.549
<v Khia Kurtenbach>them  that  they  really  developed  my  running  career  in  college 

0:39:56.580 --> 0:39:59.820
<v Khia Kurtenbach>over  a  couple  of  years.  And  really  brought  a  lot 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>of  joy  to the  sport  for  me.
 I  had  so  much 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>fun  with  college  running,  it  was  honestly  some  of  the 

0:40:07.290 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Khia Kurtenbach>best  highs  of  my  life.  But  college  running  also  comes 

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:13.110
<v Khia Kurtenbach>with  a  lot  of  pressure  and  intensity.  And  after  college 

0:40:13.110 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Khia Kurtenbach>I  was  almost  a  little  bit  ready  to  be  done 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>with  running,  but  then  I  moved  to  New  York  and 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>I  just  found  such  an  amazing  community  here,  that  the 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>club  scene  in  New  York  is  so  much  fun.  And 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>I  met  so  many  great  people  and  they  just  kind 

0:40:26.010 --> 0:40:29.009
<v Khia Kurtenbach>of  pulled  me  into  marathon  running.  So  I  can  really 

0:40:29.010 --> 0:40:31.170
<v Khia Kurtenbach>thank  the  Dashing  Whippets,  which  is  the  team  that  I 

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.390
<v Khia Kurtenbach>run  on  in  New  York,  for  keeping  me  in  the 

0:40:33.390 --> 0:40:36.300
<v Khia Kurtenbach>sport  and  for  really  helping  me  build  a  lot  of 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>excitement  towards  marathon  running.

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<v Meb>Well,  we are  so  grateful  you  didn't  give  up  running.  You 

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Meb>just  won  the  Every  Woman's  Marathon  with  a  time  of 

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.210
<v Meb>blazing,  2  hours  and  26  minutes.  What  did  it  feel 

0:40:48.210 --> 0:40:50.969
<v Meb>like  to  win  this  race  at  the  inaugural  of  Every 

0:40:50.969 --> 0:40:51.780
<v Meb>Woman's  Marathon?

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>It  was  so  much  fun.  It  was  really,  really  cool. 

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.860
<v Khia Kurtenbach>There  was  a  lot  of  my  personal  running  heroes  at 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>the  finish  line.  Des  Linden  and  Kathrine  Switzer  in  particular.


0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.009
<v Khia Kurtenbach>I  remember  when  I  was  a  kid,  my  mom  talked 

0:41:05.010 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Khia Kurtenbach>about Kathrine  Switzer  being  someone  who  inspired  her  in  marathon  running. 

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Khia Kurtenbach>And  so  it  was  really  cool  to  meet  her  at 

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:11.910
<v Khia Kurtenbach>the  finish  line.  And  my  mom  got  to  meet  her 

0:41:11.910 --> 0:41:13.890
<v Khia Kurtenbach>at  the  finish  line  too,  and  she  cried  when  she 

0:41:13.890 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Khia Kurtenbach>got  to  meet  her.  So  that  was  really,  really  cool.


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<v Khia Kurtenbach>But  honestly,  it  was  just  so  much  fun.  I  think 

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:25.590
<v Khia Kurtenbach>that  Marathon  brought  a  really  good  vibes.  It  was  very 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>inclusive  and  it  was  really  oriented  around  any  woman  should 

0:41:30.420 --> 0:41:32.460
<v Khia Kurtenbach>come  and  run  this  marathon  and  we're  here  for  you 

0:41:32.460 --> 0:41:35.130
<v Khia Kurtenbach>to  help  you  finish  it. And so,  I  just  loved  the  environment 

0:41:35.130 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Khia Kurtenbach>of  the  day  and it was so much fun to go out there and  run  hard  and  be  with  a 

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Khia Kurtenbach>bunch  of  women  accomplishing  their  goals.

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<v Meb>So  being  student  of  the  sport, seeing your mom run, and meet Kathrine Switzer  and  to  see  Des 

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Meb>Linden,  your  hero  or  your  role  model,  how  was  that 

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.410
<v Meb>interaction  meeting  everyone  all  at  once?

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>It  was  pretty  overwhelming  actually,  but  also  really  fun.  I 

0:41:57.180 --> 0:42:00.210
<v Khia Kurtenbach>remember  I  was  in  college  when  Des  won  the  Boston 

0:42:00.210 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Khia Kurtenbach>Marathon.  And  I  remember  sitting  in  my  chemistry  class  watching 

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.330
<v Khia Kurtenbach>on  my  phone  the  marathon  while  she  was  winning.  So 

0:42:06.330 --> 0:42:09.420
<v Khia Kurtenbach>she's  someone  who's  really  inspired  me  over  the  years  and 

0:42:09.420 --> 0:42:10.830
<v Khia Kurtenbach>I  looked  up  to  her.  So  it  was  great  to 

0:42:10.830 --> 0:42:13.739
<v Khia Kurtenbach>meet  her.
 And  it  was  really  cool  to  meet  everyone 

0:42:13.739 --> 0:42:17.370
<v Khia Kurtenbach>at  the  finish  and  also  just  overwhelming  and  inspired  me 

0:42:17.370 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Khia Kurtenbach>to  want  to  go  run  more  races.

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<v Meb>Well,  that  chemistry  class  and  inspiration  by  Des  Linden.
 So 

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<v Meb>now,  like  a  lot  of  runners,  you  work  on  a 

0:42:26.610 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Meb>finance.  Do  you  think  there's  a  connection  between  the  mindset 

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Meb>of  someone  who  works  in  the  finance  and a  long- distance  runner?

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>Well,  I  think  that  anyone  can  bring  the  lessons  that 

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:44.100
<v Khia Kurtenbach>they  learn  from  sport  or  from  running  to  their  careers 

0:42:44.100 --> 0:42:48.149
<v Khia Kurtenbach>and  their  jobs.  Things  like,  I  talked  before  about  not 

0:42:48.150 --> 0:42:50.219
<v Khia Kurtenbach>just  thinking  in  the  short- term,  but  thinking  about  your  long-

0:42:50.219 --> 0:42:52.859
<v Khia Kurtenbach>term  goals,  and  planning  step- by- step,  how  you're  going 

0:42:52.860 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Khia Kurtenbach>to  achieve  and  get  there  to  those  goals.  I  think 

0:42:54.870 --> 0:42:57.509
<v Khia Kurtenbach>that's  definitely  something  that  I've  learned  from  sport  and  then 

0:42:57.510 --> 0:43:00.810
<v Khia Kurtenbach>been  able  to  apply  to  my  career.
 I  think  there's 

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>other  things  that  I've  learned  from  athletics  like  teamwork  and 

0:43:04.980 --> 0:43:07.260
<v Khia Kurtenbach>how  much  having  a  good  team  around  you  that  supports 

0:43:07.260 --> 0:43:09.870
<v Khia Kurtenbach>you  and  believes  in  you  is  also  something  that  you 

0:43:09.870 --> 0:43:12.810
<v Khia Kurtenbach>can  cultivate  in  your  career  and  your  job  that  makes 

0:43:12.810 --> 0:43:13.590
<v Khia Kurtenbach>everyone  better.

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<v Meb>Excellent.
 And  sometimes  when  I  was  at  UCLA,  I  remember 

0:43:17.460 --> 0:43:20.460
<v Meb>to  just  learn  formulas  when  I  go  for  distance  run. 

0:43:20.460 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Meb>So  while  you  exercise  and  you  studying  for  something,  do 

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Meb>you  do  that  occasionally  for  your  business?

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>I  actually  think  it's  nice to be able to have a  separation  between  your  career  and 

0:43:33.780 --> 0:43:37.469
<v Khia Kurtenbach>then  your  hobbies.  I  always  like  to  think  that  you 

0:43:37.469 --> 0:43:40.230
<v Khia Kurtenbach>can't  always  be  crushing  it  in  every  aspect  of  your 

0:43:40.230 --> 0:43:42.930
<v Khia Kurtenbach>life.  Sometimes  things  are  going  to  go  badly  for  you. 

0:43:43.500 --> 0:43:45.180
<v Khia Kurtenbach>It's  not  always  going  to  be  your  day.  And  it's 

0:43:45.180 --> 0:43:47.850
<v Khia Kurtenbach>nice  to  be  able  to  have  multiple  things.  So  if 

0:43:48.210 --> 0:43:50.010
<v Khia Kurtenbach>one  thing  is  not  going  so  great  for  you,  then 

0:43:50.550 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Khia Kurtenbach>you  can  have  a  great  day  with  running  or  vice  versas.

0:43:54.090 --> 0:43:55.890
<v Meb>Well,  you've  been  a  winner  on  both  sides,  on  your 

0:43:56.850 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Meb>workforce  and then  also at  Every  Woman's  Marathon.  So  congratulations  and thank you  for 

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:01.500
<v Meb>being  with  us.

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<v Khia Kurtenbach>Thank  you. It was  great  to  meet  you.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thank  you  so  much,  Khia,  for  joining  us  and  for 

0:44:06.060 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>being  a  member  of  New  York  Road  Runners.  Congratulations  on 

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  win.  We  will  see  you  down  the  road.
 All 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>right,  now  it's  time  for  the  final  part  of  our 

0:44:13.500 --> 0:44:15.210
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>show,  today's  Meb  Minutes.

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<v Meb>Thanks,  Rob.
 As  we  spend  time  to  reflect  on  what 

0:44:18.270 --> 0:44:21.180
<v Meb>we  are  thankful  for,  remember  to  be  thankful  for  running 

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<v Meb>and  all  it  can  bring  you.  Running  is  a  gift and it is 

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<v Meb>important  to  be  thankful  for  every  step  you  take.  Whether 

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<v Meb>it  is  a  tough  training  day  or  a  race,  remember 

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<v Meb>that  each  run  is  an  opportunity  to  challenge  yourself,  grow 

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<v Meb>stronger,  and  appreciate  your  body's  ability.  Gratitude  helps  you  stay 

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<v Meb>motivated  and  reminds  you  why  you  love  the  sport,  especially 

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<v Meb>when  you  have  come  back  from  injuries.
 Like  for  example, 

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<v Meb>I  used  to  say, " I  can't  believe  I'm  running  without 

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<v Meb>pain,"  because  now  you  don't take  the  running  ability  for  granted. 

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<v Meb>Because  you  are  running  smoothly  and  without  pain.  Whereas  before, 

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<v Meb>if  you've  been  injured,  it's  a  dark  place  to  be. 

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<v Meb>So  when  you  running  freely  without  injury,  you  got  to 

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<v Meb>be  thankful.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  that  does  it  for  another  episode  of  Set  The 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Pace.  I  want  to  thank  our  guests  today,  Kathleen  Wright, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  director  of  production  operations  at  Macy's,  and  Khia Kurtenbach,  winner 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  the  inaugural  Every  Woman's  Marathon.
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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>others  can  find  us  as  well.  Happy  Thanksgiving  everybody.  Enjoy 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>those  turkey  trots.  Enjoy  the  miles.
 We'll  see  you  next  week.