1 00:00:04,050 --> 00:00:08,309 Audio: Thank you New York. Today we're reminded of the power 2 00:00:08,309 --> 00:00:13,139 Audio: of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on 3 00:00:13,139 --> 00:00:18,630 Audio: your mark. The first woman to finish for the second 4 00:00:18,630 --> 00:00:22,380 Audio: straight year here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, 5 00:00:22,380 --> 00:00:26,220 Audio: a smiling Miki Gorman. And why not? 2: 29:30, the 6 00:00:26,220 --> 00:00:29,849 Audio: time for motorbikes. Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan 7 00:00:29,849 --> 00:00:32,790 Audio: as she comes to the line. Pointing to his chest, 8 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:36,600 Audio: pointing to the USA he so proudly wears across his chest. 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:44,250 Audio: A great day for Meb Keflezighi. 10 00:00:44,250 --> 00:00:47,009 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Set the Pace 11 00:00:47,010 --> 00:00:49,949 Rob Simmelkjaer: Presented by Peloton. I'm your host and CEO of New 12 00:00:49,950 --> 00:00:54,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: York Road Runners, Rob Simmelkjaer, and with me as always, 13 00:00:54,090 --> 00:00:58,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: my co- host and Peloton instructor, Becs Gentry. Becs, great 14 00:00:58,740 --> 00:01:01,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: to see you. And what a weekend we had in 15 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,839 Rob Simmelkjaer: Brooklyn. More than 28, 000 runners, including you, taking on the 16 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,649 Rob Simmelkjaer: Brooklyn Half the RBC Brooklyn Half Saturday morning. It was 17 00:01:10,650 --> 00:01:14,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: a record- setting field, the largest half- marathon in the 18 00:01:14,910 --> 00:01:20,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: country, and just an incredible day. Beautiful weather, amazing vibes, 19 00:01:20,639 --> 00:01:23,369 Rob Simmelkjaer: loved every minute of it, Becs. How was the day 20 00:01:23,370 --> 00:01:25,379 Rob Simmelkjaer: for you? It certainly seemed like a great one for 21 00:01:25,380 --> 00:01:26,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: everybody out there. 22 00:01:27,209 --> 00:01:33,510 Becs Gentry: It was a beautiful day, it was unexpected. I very 23 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:37,950 Becs Gentry: much decided to run this race last minute in order 24 00:01:38,250 --> 00:01:41,939 Becs Gentry: to secure my travel to Coney Island to do the 25 00:01:41,940 --> 00:01:46,048 Becs Gentry: live podcast recording of Set the Pace with Ali Feller 26 00:01:46,049 --> 00:01:51,480 Becs Gentry: and Zac Clark. Rob, honestly, the vibes out there were 27 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,960 Becs Gentry: beautiful, beautiful. From seeing you as soon as I got 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,670 Becs Gentry: there to then seeing the rest of the New York 29 00:01:56,670 --> 00:02:00,270 Becs Gentry: Road Runners crew all the way through. So many friends, 30 00:02:00,270 --> 00:02:03,389 Becs Gentry: so many running friends. I mean, we'd started the race 31 00:02:03,389 --> 00:02:06,389 Becs Gentry: and I was running with my back turned, running backwards, 32 00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:11,340 Becs Gentry: sideways, talking to people. It was awesome. The party afterwards, 33 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:14,279 Becs Gentry: the weather, it got hot. It got hot, I will 34 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,010 Becs Gentry: say that much, but otherwise I think people had a 35 00:02:17,010 --> 00:02:17,280 Becs Gentry: great day. 36 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:20,639 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, it was a day that we never knew what 37 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: the weather was going to be like. It was going 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: to rain, it was going to be warm. It was a nice day. I know there 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: was a bit of a period where the sun came 40 00:02:26,610 --> 00:02:30,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: out, it got warm, but for you, so interesting, Becs, 41 00:02:30,389 --> 00:02:32,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: you really, when we had the podcast the week before 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: you weren't sure if you were going to run. And then 43 00:02:35,580 --> 00:02:38,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: you made that, I think pretty last minute decision to 44 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:42,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: give it a go. And it's only someone like Becs 45 00:02:42,090 --> 00:02:45,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: Gentry who can roll out of bed, decide, " Ah, okay, 46 00:02:45,210 --> 00:02:48,119 Rob Simmelkjaer: I guess I'll give this half- marathon thing a try." 47 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,259 Rob Simmelkjaer: And then end up running a very respectable time, Becs. 48 00:02:52,349 --> 00:02:55,349 Rob Simmelkjaer: Talk about your day, your race. Were you happy? Was 49 00:02:55,349 --> 00:02:57,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: it a struggle? How did it feel out there for you? 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Becs Gentry: Honestly, it was a struggle, and I will caveat that 51 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Becs Gentry: with everyone, it's all relative to every different runner. And 52 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,520 Becs Gentry: I know I'm very, very proud of the time I 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:13,349 Becs Gentry: did, and very, very happy. But for me personally, it 54 00:03:13,349 --> 00:03:16,738 Becs Gentry: was a tough race. I had had not a great week 55 00:03:16,799 --> 00:03:20,730 Becs Gentry: of stomach, and that's all I'll say on that. A 56 00:03:20,730 --> 00:03:23,638 Becs Gentry: little under- fueled I would say, and a little tired 57 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,999 Becs Gentry: from a very busy week. So, I did, I struggled. 58 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:30,508 Becs Gentry: It was hot. I haven't run much in the hot 59 00:03:30,508 --> 00:03:33,150 Becs Gentry: this year. It's been a pretty miserable weather year so 60 00:03:33,150 --> 00:03:35,639 Becs Gentry: far here on the East Coast, so that took me 61 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:39,540 Becs Gentry: by surprise. And the best thing about it though, Rob 62 00:03:39,540 --> 00:03:43,710 Becs Gentry: was being humble and being able to go, " Hey, it's 63 00:03:43,710 --> 00:03:45,959 Becs Gentry: not working at the pace you think you can do, 64 00:03:46,110 --> 00:03:49,710 Becs Gentry: so pull it back and really soak in the vibes 65 00:03:49,710 --> 00:03:52,559 Becs Gentry: of running to Coney Island." And that's what I did. 66 00:03:52,559 --> 00:03:54,720 Becs Gentry: And as soon as I did that, it was high- 67 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,660 Becs Gentry: fives and smiles all the way down. I think it 68 00:03:57,660 --> 00:04:02,220 Becs Gentry: was around Avenue J. I remember seeing it and going, " I've 69 00:04:02,220 --> 00:04:03,779 Becs Gentry: got a long way, let's pull it back." 70 00:04:04,980 --> 00:04:07,169 Rob Simmelkjaer: And it's funny how freeing that can be, right? And 71 00:04:08,009 --> 00:04:11,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: you think you're going to go hard and then when you finally just say, " Ah, this is 72 00:04:11,369 --> 00:04:13,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: a fun run." And that's when the fun starts a 73 00:04:13,650 --> 00:04:14,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: lot of the time. And so- 74 00:04:14,730 --> 00:04:14,731 Becs Gentry: Precisely. 75 00:04:14,731 --> 00:04:20,099 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... good for you for doing that, for enjoying yourself. And I could 76 00:04:20,099 --> 00:04:22,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: hear how much fun you were having on that Set 77 00:04:22,589 --> 00:04:25,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Pace broadcast with Ali Feller. You guys did such 78 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:27,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: a great job with that show. For folks who haven't 79 00:04:27,690 --> 00:04:30,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: listened to it yet, go back and listen. It was 80 00:04:30,180 --> 00:04:33,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: a great conversation between you and Ali. I love listening 81 00:04:33,390 --> 00:04:34,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: to it. It was so weird for me. I was doing a 82 00:04:35,010 --> 00:04:38,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: long run the next morning myself and I'm like, " Hey, 83 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:40,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: I think I'll listen to Set the Pace. I haven't 84 00:04:40,559 --> 00:04:42,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: heard the show yet." And I was listening to it and 85 00:04:42,928 --> 00:04:45,539 Rob Simmelkjaer: it was just great. So, you guys are great. And it 86 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: just seemed like a really fun time at that after party. 87 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,589 Becs Gentry: It really was. And it was great to celebrate the 88 00:04:52,740 --> 00:04:55,589 Becs Gentry: runs Ali's done in the past and to celebrate with 89 00:04:55,589 --> 00:04:58,529 Becs Gentry: her being there. And then Zac Clark, who was our 90 00:04:59,250 --> 00:05:02,279 Becs Gentry: special guest, I remember moment for the day he run 91 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,279 Becs Gentry: the race as well. So, it was all a lot of fun. And all in 92 00:05:07,289 --> 00:05:12,000 Becs Gentry: all, Rob, we had some fantastic performances. The top performers 93 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,808 Becs Gentry: from this weekend, their times were through the roof good. 94 00:05:16,230 --> 00:05:20,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: They really were. Ryan Cutter from the Brooklyn Track Club 95 00:05:20,370 --> 00:05:22,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: one on the men's side with a time of 1:04: 96 00:05:22,469 --> 00:05:27,779 Rob Simmelkjaer: 09. On the women's side. It was Olympian Kim Conley 97 00:05:27,779 --> 00:05:32,039 Rob Simmelkjaer: finishing in 1:12: 43. And the top non- binary athlete 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: was Sophia Camacho Farrell of the Brooklyn Track Club in 99 00:05:35,849 --> 00:05:41,008 Rob Simmelkjaer: one hour, 14 minutes and six seconds. So, really impressive, 100 00:05:41,010 --> 00:05:45,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: and congrats to the winners and congrats to everybody who 101 00:05:45,060 --> 00:05:49,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: finished and became part of the largest half- marathon in 102 00:05:49,410 --> 00:05:52,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: the United States. Just an incredible day from New York 103 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:54,839 Rob Simmelkjaer: Road Runners and for all the runners. Becs, before we 104 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: get to our guest, it is so beautiful today, and 105 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,178 Rob Simmelkjaer: spring is my favorite time of year to start a 106 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:01,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: new workout routine. 107 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:04,859 Becs Gentry: Totally agree, Rob. With the weather warming up, it just 108 00:06:04,860 --> 00:06:07,860 Becs Gentry: feels so much easier to get into the rhythm of things. 109 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: One of the things that works so well for me, Becs, 110 00:06:11,250 --> 00:06:14,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: about Peloton is whether I've got 20 minutes to kill 111 00:06:14,130 --> 00:06:16,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: or a full hour for a Pilates class or maybe 112 00:06:16,799 --> 00:06:20,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: an outdoor guided walk, Peloton has everything I need to 113 00:06:20,820 --> 00:06:21,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: help get me going. 114 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,660 Becs Gentry: It certainly does. It is such a great way to 115 00:06:24,660 --> 00:06:27,328 Becs Gentry: get a head start on summer with Peloton. You can 116 00:06:27,330 --> 00:06:29,488 Becs Gentry: find it at onepeloton. com. 117 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:32,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs, we've been trying to coordinate schedules with our guest 118 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: today for a really long time, so we're so excited 119 00:06:36,029 --> 00:06:39,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: to finally have them on the show. Amy Robach and 120 00:06:39,089 --> 00:06:42,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: T. J. Holmes, they're great runners, tremendous parts of the 121 00:06:43,050 --> 00:06:45,539 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Runners community, and so I'm really looking forward 122 00:06:45,540 --> 00:06:48,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: to our conversation coming up in just a second with 123 00:06:48,210 --> 00:06:50,488 Rob Simmelkjaer: them. And of course, a little bit later on the 124 00:06:50,490 --> 00:06:53,909 Rob Simmelkjaer: show, the always great Meb Keflezighi will be here along with 125 00:06:53,910 --> 00:06:57,659 Rob Simmelkjaer: me for our member moment. Today's member, Michelle Moore is 126 00:06:57,660 --> 00:07:00,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: here to help us close out our mental health awareness 127 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:03,779 Rob Simmelkjaer: month. She's the author of a great book, Sustainable Wellness: 128 00:07:03,779 --> 00:07:07,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: A Memoir of Loss, Perseverance and Resilience. And then Meb 129 00:07:07,740 --> 00:07:10,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: is going to give us his Meb minute tips for 130 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:15,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: Best Summer Running Recovery tips as well. Whether it's headline 131 00:07:15,210 --> 00:07:20,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: news, pop culture, or meaningful and personal conversations, today's guests, 132 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:23,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: Amy Robach and T. J. Holmes, they cover it all. 133 00:07:23,130 --> 00:07:26,189 Rob Simmelkjaer: You probably know them as the renowned media personalities they 134 00:07:26,190 --> 00:07:28,709 Rob Simmelkjaer: are, but to us here at New York Road Runners, 135 00:07:28,709 --> 00:07:31,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: they're two of our most dedicated runners. I had a 136 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: chance to be a guest on their podcast, Amy and T. 137 00:07:34,770 --> 00:07:37,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: J. a few months ago, and I'm so grateful that 138 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: they have come to our podcast here on Set the 139 00:07:40,679 --> 00:07:44,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace to join me and Becs. Amy, T. J., great to 140 00:07:44,460 --> 00:07:45,329 Rob Simmelkjaer: have you guys on. 141 00:07:45,929 --> 00:07:47,789 Amy Robach: Thanks for having us. We're excited. 142 00:07:48,690 --> 00:07:51,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, we're thrilled to see both of you. And I 143 00:07:51,540 --> 00:07:55,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: know you both ran the United Airlines NYC Half, you took 144 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: Brooklyn off, which is fine, you're allowed to do that, 145 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: but you had pretty good days that day, both under 146 00:08:01,110 --> 00:08:04,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: two hours at the UA NYC Half. How'd you feel about 147 00:08:04,590 --> 00:08:05,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: that race? 148 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:07,800 Amy Robach: How'd you feel about that T.J.? 149 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:14,639 T. J. Holmes: Oh my goodness. No, it's always fun. It's always fun to run down 150 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:20,250 T. J. Holmes: an empty FDR. We're so used to, whether you're in 151 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:23,699 T. J. Holmes: a car or whether is congestion, and to have the FDR 152 00:08:23,699 --> 00:08:25,950 T. J. Holmes: to yourself is kind of fun, so I always like 153 00:08:25,950 --> 00:08:29,010 T. J. Holmes: that. And then running through Times Square at the end 154 00:08:29,010 --> 00:08:31,890 T. J. Holmes: of that race, we actually talk about, we like that 155 00:08:31,890 --> 00:08:36,630 T. J. Holmes: stretch better than most stretches of the actual New York 156 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:39,599 T. J. Holmes: City Marathon. Just running through Times Square, coming around that 157 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:42,660 T. J. Holmes: corner and everybody is there is a really cool sight. 158 00:08:42,780 --> 00:08:46,890 Amy Robach: Oh, I mean, I can't think of anything that beats running through 159 00:08:46,890 --> 00:08:49,380 Amy Robach: Times Square in the New York City Half Marathon. It 160 00:08:49,380 --> 00:08:52,590 Amy Robach: is by far my favorite stretch. And this year the 161 00:08:52,590 --> 00:08:55,650 Amy Robach: weather was so much nicer than the year before. So, 162 00:08:55,650 --> 00:08:58,439 Amy Robach: we always appreciate that when you get the good weather, 163 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,540 Amy Robach: because you don't always, as we all know. 164 00:09:01,410 --> 00:09:03,990 Becs Gentry: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, it can. Rain or shine though, 165 00:09:03,990 --> 00:09:08,400 Becs Gentry: we're all out there. And you have both been running for 166 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,619 Becs Gentry: a while. We know you've been with New York Road 167 00:09:10,620 --> 00:09:14,039 Becs Gentry: Runner since around 2017. Can you talk to us a 168 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,309 Becs Gentry: bit about what inspired you both to actually start running? 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,440 Amy Robach: Sure. I have always been a runner, but I was a 170 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:24,960 Amy Robach: 10K girl at the most. So, the most I had 171 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,729 Amy Robach: ever run was six miles until I was 45. And 172 00:09:29,730 --> 00:09:33,238 Amy Robach: my dad was a marathoner. He's run three marathons and 173 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,000 Amy Robach: a big half marathoner. But I used to always look 174 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,679 Amy Robach: to him and think, " How could he ever do that?" 175 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,590 Amy Robach: And then it was after my cancer battle with breast 176 00:09:40,590 --> 00:09:45,929 Amy Robach: cancer, I started, I just didn't believe in my body 177 00:09:45,929 --> 00:09:48,660 Amy Robach: anymore. I was crippled in every way, emotionally, physically. I 178 00:09:48,660 --> 00:09:51,300 Amy Robach: just was scared to even think about tomorrow, let alone 179 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:53,580 Amy Robach: what I could do or what I was capable of. 180 00:09:53,580 --> 00:09:56,880 Amy Robach: I felt defeated in every way, and it took me 181 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,290 Amy Robach: a couple of years to get out of that funk. 182 00:09:58,290 --> 00:10:00,540 Amy Robach: I mean, I ran a little bit, but not much. 183 00:10:01,020 --> 00:10:05,670 Amy Robach: And I started to get involved in my first race. 184 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:08,639 Amy Robach: It was actually the SHAPE Half- Marathon in Central Park. 185 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:12,630 Amy Robach: And I pushed myself past what I thought I was 186 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:16,140 Amy Robach: capable of and realized that I suddenly felt my own 187 00:10:16,140 --> 00:10:19,350 Amy Robach: strength again. And I got hooked from that point on. 188 00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:21,358 Amy Robach: And I signed up for the Brooklyn Half with the New 189 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Amy Robach: York Road Runners. I signed up for New York Road 190 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,589 Amy Robach: Runners, I became a member, and now I've run, I've 191 00:10:28,590 --> 00:10:31,980 Amy Robach: almost lost count, I think. Am I at six marathons now? I 192 00:10:31,980 --> 00:10:34,290 Amy Robach: think six full marathons, and I don't even know how 193 00:10:34,290 --> 00:10:38,550 Amy Robach: many half- marathons. And I caught the buck and I 194 00:10:38,730 --> 00:10:43,650 Amy Robach: never felt more communal. I never felt more, I just 195 00:10:43,650 --> 00:10:46,350 Amy Robach: never felt my own strength. And I just felt so inspired 196 00:10:46,350 --> 00:10:48,809 Amy Robach: by all the people around me running in all shapes 197 00:10:48,809 --> 00:10:53,040 Amy Robach: and sizes, all ages, all physical capabilities. And I just thought, " 198 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,290 Amy Robach: My God, this is so cool that we're all doing 199 00:10:55,290 --> 00:10:58,679 Amy Robach: this together, doing something really hard that most people think 200 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,110 Amy Robach: they're incapable of." Including me just a few years prior. 201 00:11:01,770 --> 00:11:04,260 T. J. Holmes: And for me, I was just always been an athlete 202 00:11:04,260 --> 00:11:07,020 T. J. Holmes: and running was always a matter of conditioning, was another ... 203 00:11:07,170 --> 00:11:09,360 T. J. Holmes: I was never a runner, so I just always kept up 204 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,490 T. J. Holmes: running throughout my adult life just as a matter of 205 00:11:11,490 --> 00:11:15,300 T. J. Holmes: some conditioning. But it's not until I started co- anchoring 206 00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:19,410 T. J. Holmes: a show with her, Becs, with a robot here, that knowing 207 00:11:19,410 --> 00:11:22,170 T. J. Holmes: that she was running and she finally talked me into 208 00:11:22,170 --> 00:11:26,760 T. J. Holmes: joining my first half- marathon. And then after that it 209 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,208 T. J. Holmes: was a wrap, I'm hooked. And it's just a part of 210 00:11:30,210 --> 00:11:32,940 T. J. Holmes: life now and can't function without running. 211 00:11:34,050 --> 00:11:37,019 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, T. J., when I was on with you guys 212 00:11:37,020 --> 00:11:40,289 Rob Simmelkjaer: on your awesome podcast, by the way, Amy and T. J., 213 00:11:40,289 --> 00:11:44,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: you talked a lot about running and how it helped 214 00:11:44,580 --> 00:11:49,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: you get through some really difficult times. You struggled at 215 00:11:49,620 --> 00:11:52,649 Rob Simmelkjaer: times with mental health and depression and this is Mental 216 00:11:52,650 --> 00:11:55,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: Health Awareness Month. We're talking a lot about this here 217 00:11:55,530 --> 00:11:58,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: at New York Road Runners. Can you talk about how 218 00:11:58,109 --> 00:12:01,468 Rob Simmelkjaer: running did help you through those times, whether it was 219 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: earlier, T. J., or even more recently with stuff that 220 00:12:06,270 --> 00:12:08,909 Rob Simmelkjaer: you and Amy have gone through together? What role has 221 00:12:08,910 --> 00:12:10,199 Rob Simmelkjaer: running played in all that? 222 00:12:10,860 --> 00:12:13,890 T. J. Holmes: Rob, commend you, when you were on our podcast. We did 223 00:12:13,890 --> 00:12:15,238 T. J. Holmes: it at the time, you should do it here as well. 224 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,860 T. J. Holmes: We commend you for wanting to make running a part 225 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,520 T. J. Holmes: of a treatment for mental health essentially. And I didn't 226 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,890 T. J. Holmes: realize it, Rob, to your point when I first started 227 00:12:25,890 --> 00:12:29,099 T. J. Holmes: running that I didn't start doing it to help me because 228 00:12:29,099 --> 00:12:31,409 T. J. Holmes: I was going through something. But it ended up being 229 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,879 T. J. Holmes: such a lifeline, and my friendship with robot, first of 230 00:12:35,879 --> 00:12:39,660 T. J. Holmes: all, part of that just us being able to bond 231 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:42,780 T. J. Holmes: and talk and to have those runs together. Any runner 232 00:12:42,780 --> 00:12:45,300 T. J. Holmes: knows that that's a very big deal. And those partnerships 233 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:47,458 T. J. Holmes: and friendships you have are a big deal. But aside 234 00:12:47,460 --> 00:12:53,399 T. J. Holmes: from that, there is no greater ... There is no pill 235 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,830 T. J. Holmes: you can give me or sleep I can get or 236 00:12:55,830 --> 00:12:58,320 T. J. Holmes: meal I can eat. There is nothing when I am 237 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,300 T. J. Holmes: not in a good way that settles me, calms me, 238 00:13:03,330 --> 00:13:06,240 T. J. Holmes: steadies me the way just going out for a run 239 00:13:06,450 --> 00:13:09,598 T. J. Holmes: can do. And oftentimes some of the best runs are 240 00:13:09,599 --> 00:13:13,110 T. J. Holmes: when I take the AirPods out and not listening to 241 00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:16,980 T. J. Holmes: music that's pushing and driving me and just enjoying the 242 00:13:16,980 --> 00:13:19,860 T. J. Holmes: surroundings. And that's a big part of mental health is 243 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:23,249 T. J. Holmes: sometimes, anybody who meditates knows this, you got to stay 244 00:13:23,309 --> 00:13:26,549 T. J. Holmes: in the moment and where you are. And that has 245 00:13:26,549 --> 00:13:29,759 T. J. Holmes: been a huge part of, it's health now. I mean, 246 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,040 T. J. Holmes: we talk about it all the time. Sometimes you can tell which 247 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,988 T. J. Holmes: one of us hasn't gone for a run in the 248 00:13:33,990 --> 00:13:36,990 T. J. Holmes: morning, because one of the two of us ain't quite right. 249 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,009 Rob Simmelkjaer: The other one should be like, " Hey, you might want 250 00:13:41,010 --> 00:13:43,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: to go take your run and let's finish this conversation 251 00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:45,539 Rob Simmelkjaer: after you've run, because I don't really want to do 252 00:13:45,540 --> 00:13:46,108 Rob Simmelkjaer: this right now." 253 00:13:46,980 --> 00:13:48,899 T. J. Holmes: He knows. He knows, Robs, he knows. 254 00:13:48,929 --> 00:13:53,280 Becs Gentry: Yeah, that is our house as well. Most mornings it 255 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,670 Becs Gentry: is our house of whoever's feet touch the ground first at 5: 256 00:13:56,730 --> 00:14:00,300 Becs Gentry: 30 before our baby wakes up, gets to have the 257 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:02,429 Becs Gentry: run and gets to start the day a little bit earlier. 258 00:14:02,849 --> 00:14:06,208 T. J. Holmes: Hey, can we ask you all, what's your ideal, and 259 00:14:06,208 --> 00:14:07,920 T. J. Holmes: Becs, I think we talked to Rob about it, but 260 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,350 T. J. Holmes: when do you like to run? What part of the 261 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:14,218 T. J. Holmes: day do you like to get your personal workout, your running? 262 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:20,070 Becs Gentry: I am a morning person. Because of very similar to 263 00:14:20,070 --> 00:14:23,759 Becs Gentry: what you have said, T. J. is it sets me 264 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,940 Becs Gentry: up. I can go and empty my mind or fill 265 00:14:26,940 --> 00:14:30,570 Becs Gentry: my mind, depending on where my brain is at. And 266 00:14:31,140 --> 00:14:33,840 Becs Gentry: I feel so much more at peace when I've got 267 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,080 Becs Gentry: my miles in, by myself quite a lot of the 268 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,179 Becs Gentry: time. I do like to run by myself. I love 269 00:14:39,179 --> 00:14:41,219 Becs Gentry: to run with other people, but that morning run is 270 00:14:41,219 --> 00:14:46,740 Becs Gentry: just me time, organization time, and come back. But I'm 271 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:48,810 Becs Gentry: a true runner. I'll run anytime. But if I had 272 00:14:48,810 --> 00:14:49,109 Becs Gentry: to pick. 273 00:14:49,740 --> 00:14:51,779 Rob Simmelkjaer: I have this phrase Becs has heard me use a 274 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:55,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: few times, " Win the morning, win the day." If I 275 00:14:55,860 --> 00:14:58,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: have a good morning, it's rare that I get a really 276 00:14:58,740 --> 00:15:01,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: good run in before seven or eight a. m. or 277 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:04,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: whatever and then go back and say, " God, I really 278 00:15:04,260 --> 00:15:07,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: regret that run. That just got my day off to 279 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,649 Rob Simmelkjaer: a really bad start and it just never came back 280 00:15:10,650 --> 00:15:14,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: from that run." It's almost, unless maybe I get injured 281 00:15:14,190 --> 00:15:17,249 Rob Simmelkjaer: during the run or something, but generally it's the morning 282 00:15:17,459 --> 00:15:19,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: that makes it happen for me. And I think I 283 00:15:19,050 --> 00:15:21,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: remember you guys joking around in your podcast about, I 284 00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:23,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: think one of you is more a morning person than 285 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: the other. And being a couple that runs together, one 286 00:15:27,270 --> 00:15:29,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: of you maybe is motivating the other a little bit 287 00:15:29,250 --> 00:15:30,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: to get up and get those shoes on, Amy? 288 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,580 Amy Robach: Well, here's the deal. 289 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:33,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: He knew who to ask. 290 00:15:35,460 --> 00:15:38,400 Amy Robach: I'm a morning person. He is a uber early morning 291 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,410 Amy Robach: person. So, if you call getting up at four a. 292 00:15:40,410 --> 00:15:42,810 Amy Robach: m. a morning person, that's T. J. If you call 293 00:15:42,810 --> 00:15:44,760 Amy Robach: getting up at 6: 30 in the morning, a morning 294 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,759 Amy Robach: person, that's me, so we're not that far off. But 295 00:15:47,759 --> 00:15:50,009 Amy Robach: even today you apologize for waking me up at 5: 296 00:15:50,009 --> 00:15:55,170 Amy Robach: 45, but that's all right. Yes, he motivates me to 297 00:15:55,199 --> 00:15:59,370 Amy Robach: run earlier than I would have. But I think we're 298 00:15:59,370 --> 00:16:03,510 Amy Robach: pretty much on a solid, we've got a pretty good 299 00:16:03,510 --> 00:16:06,929 Amy Robach: rhythm going where now we're not training for anything. We 300 00:16:06,929 --> 00:16:11,189 Amy Robach: know training begins in June for our next marathons, so 301 00:16:11,190 --> 00:16:13,830 Amy Robach: we do a two mile a day every day. We 302 00:16:13,830 --> 00:16:16,320 Amy Robach: can skip one day a week if we like, which 303 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,870 Amy Robach: I think we did on Sunday, but we both know 304 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:20,759 Amy Robach: we're getting the two miles in. And whether we do 305 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,491 Amy Robach: it alone or together, we get it done usually before eight a.m. 306 00:16:23,491 --> 00:16:28,080 T. J. Holmes: Yeah, but I don't even like eight a. m. That's a late start to the day for me, 307 00:16:29,129 --> 00:16:32,310 T. J. Holmes: because if you run, it's a whole process. You have to get 308 00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:35,670 T. J. Holmes: the clothes on, you get outside, you walk a couple 309 00:16:35,670 --> 00:16:37,710 T. J. Holmes: of blocks, then you start running, you come back, you 310 00:16:37,710 --> 00:16:40,050 T. J. Holmes: got to get out of that stuff. You need to cool down. So, 311 00:16:40,050 --> 00:16:42,719 T. J. Holmes: it takes up so much time in the morning, I 312 00:16:42,719 --> 00:16:45,719 T. J. Holmes: don't feel like my day can officially start until the 313 00:16:45,719 --> 00:16:49,109 T. J. Holmes: run is done. If the run keeps getting pushed back, that 314 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:53,790 T. J. Holmes: means my whole day of work is getting pushed back. 315 00:16:53,790 --> 00:16:59,130 T. J. Holmes: It drives me crazy. Be in bed at, " Oh, it's 5:00, 5: 316 00:16:59,190 --> 00:17:01,050 T. J. Holmes: 30, we're still not running yet." 317 00:17:01,170 --> 00:17:01,890 Amy Robach: He wakes up- 318 00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:02,070 T. J. Holmes: We still- 319 00:17:02,070 --> 00:17:07,230 Amy Robach: The first time you usually are nice and don't nudge me until 320 00:17:07,230 --> 00:17:10,710 Amy Robach: like 5: 30, 5:45, but the first thing out of his mouth 321 00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:13,648 Amy Robach: almost every morning we wake up together is ... 322 00:17:13,919 --> 00:17:14,580 T. J. Holmes: You ready to run? 323 00:17:15,690 --> 00:17:16,230 Amy Robach: No joke- 324 00:17:16,469 --> 00:17:18,901 T. J. Holmes: There's no, good morning. 325 00:17:18,901 --> 00:17:18,902 Becs Gentry: No good morning. 326 00:17:18,902 --> 00:17:23,728 Amy Robach: First thing he says to me, and then I usually say, " Not quite yet. But yes, but 327 00:17:23,730 --> 00:17:25,859 Amy Robach: not quite yet." So no, I agree, I do like ... 328 00:17:26,070 --> 00:17:27,658 Amy Robach: It is great to get it in before eight a. 329 00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:31,138 Amy Robach: m. The weather has an impact on me, now that 330 00:17:31,140 --> 00:17:33,270 Amy Robach: it's warming up I'll be much more willing to run 331 00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:35,730 Amy Robach: earlier. I have been waiting for it to warm up 332 00:17:35,730 --> 00:17:38,549 Amy Robach: a little bit sometimes in the morning during the winter 333 00:17:38,549 --> 00:17:40,469 Amy Robach: months. That's the reason why I run a little bit 334 00:17:40,469 --> 00:17:42,299 Amy Robach: later in the winter. But in the summer I'm all 335 00:17:42,299 --> 00:17:43,500 Amy Robach: about getting it in before it gets hot. 336 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,410 Becs Gentry: Exactly. And I think as a female as well, you're 337 00:17:46,410 --> 00:17:49,888 Becs Gentry: a little bit more intimidated in those winter early mornings 338 00:17:49,890 --> 00:17:52,469 Becs Gentry: when it's still dark at 6:00 a. m. and you're thinking, " 339 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:54,300 Becs Gentry: I want to get out, I want to get it 340 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:57,658 Becs Gentry: done." But if you are going solo, I think twice, 341 00:17:57,660 --> 00:17:58,830 Becs Gentry: I mean I live in the middle of Brooklyn and 342 00:17:58,830 --> 00:18:01,321 Becs Gentry: I'm like, " Is this a good idea?" 343 00:18:01,321 --> 00:18:06,150 Amy Robach: I do not run by myself in the dark at all. 344 00:18:06,660 --> 00:18:10,349 Amy Robach: I won't run. I have run as early as 3: 30 a.m. with 345 00:18:10,349 --> 00:18:15,329 Amy Robach: this crazy man, but with him. Is the only, there's 346 00:18:15,330 --> 00:18:16,859 Amy Robach: a reason why we ran at 3: 30 in the morning and 347 00:18:17,459 --> 00:18:19,530 Amy Robach: we ran nine miles at 3: 30 in the morning, 348 00:18:19,530 --> 00:18:23,520 Amy Robach: which was kind of crazy. I think we were training 349 00:18:23,580 --> 00:18:25,410 Amy Robach: for the marathon, weren't we? For the New York City 350 00:18:25,410 --> 00:18:27,990 Amy Robach: Marathon, or was it the half- marathon? But there was 351 00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:30,600 Amy Robach: a soccer game on. Do you remember the details? 352 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:34,921 T. J. Holmes: Yeah, it was the women's world, wasn't it? 353 00:18:34,921 --> 00:18:36,780 Amy Robach: Okay. I think it was. And so it was being played overseas. 354 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,300 T. J. Holmes: Yes, but it was like a six or seven a. 355 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:43,800 T. J. Holmes: m. local time soccer match. We had to see. And 356 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,739 T. J. Holmes: when the soccer match is over at nine a. m. 357 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:49,049 T. J. Holmes: I don't want to go run nine miles. 358 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:56,221 Amy Robach: You also wanted to have a beer watching the soccer match, let's be honest. 359 00:18:56,221 --> 00:18:56,222 T. J. Holmes: That's what it, there it is. 360 00:18:56,222 --> 00:18:58,200 Amy Robach: We got up, because you wanted to have a beer while you were watching the soccer game. 361 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,430 Becs Gentry: Which is totally fine. 362 00:18:59,609 --> 00:19:02,220 Amy Robach: So, in order to do that we have to run at 3: 363 00:19:02,220 --> 00:19:02,641 Amy Robach: 30 in the morning. 364 00:19:02,641 --> 00:19:02,642 T. J. Holmes: There it is. There it is. 365 00:19:02,642 --> 00:19:07,110 Becs Gentry: I'm down for that. You've got what you wanted to 366 00:19:07,290 --> 00:19:10,440 Becs Gentry: get done, done in order to do more of what 367 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,700 Becs Gentry: you want to get done, done. 368 00:19:12,450 --> 00:19:14,369 Rob Simmelkjaer: I want to be clear, if anyone's listening, I am 369 00:19:14,369 --> 00:19:17,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: not down with that, 3: 30 a. m. No, not 370 00:19:17,730 --> 00:19:21,119 Rob Simmelkjaer: happening. That's not even early, that's late. That's so early, 371 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's late. You're running for the day before. 372 00:19:25,109 --> 00:19:27,388 Amy Robach: It was a fun experience. He's done this a couple 373 00:19:27,388 --> 00:19:30,660 Amy Robach: of times, especially when he was on GMA, like on 374 00:19:30,660 --> 00:19:33,900 Amy Robach: assignment. And he would have to be in place 5: 375 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:36,570 Amy Robach: 00 a.m., I would see his Strava or he would send 376 00:19:36,570 --> 00:19:39,300 Amy Robach: it to me at 2: 30 in the morning he's running. And I used 377 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:42,509 Amy Robach: to think he was absolutely insane, because I don't mind 378 00:19:42,570 --> 00:19:44,790 Amy Robach: running after work. A lot of times we did run 379 00:19:44,790 --> 00:19:47,638 Amy Robach: at 11 or noon, as long as it's not too 380 00:19:47,638 --> 00:19:52,290 Amy Robach: hot. But he absolutely abhors it. So yes, I've adopted 381 00:19:52,290 --> 00:19:56,220 Amy Robach: more of the early runs when moments like that happen. 382 00:19:56,220 --> 00:19:58,530 Amy Robach: But it is crazy, it's insane. There's no question. 383 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,820 Becs Gentry: I'm in awe. I think it's fantastic. I have a 384 00:20:02,820 --> 00:20:06,509 Becs Gentry: question though on the early morning, do you eat before 385 00:20:06,540 --> 00:20:08,520 Becs Gentry: you run at that time in the morning? 386 00:20:08,850 --> 00:20:13,320 Amy Robach: No. No. And that is always my struggle. He is 387 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,109 Amy Robach: like a machine where I feel like he doesn't even 388 00:20:16,109 --> 00:20:19,140 Amy Robach: need to drink water or eat food and he goes 389 00:20:19,410 --> 00:20:22,498 Amy Robach: forever. And only actually running a few half- marathons with 390 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:25,680 Amy Robach: him I've not fueled. And I used to always fuel. 391 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,480 Amy Robach: In fact, this last marathon I ran, I did not 392 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,359 Amy Robach: fuel at all during the marathon, which I've never done 393 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,260 Amy Robach: before. I haven't figured it out yet. Even after all 394 00:20:34,260 --> 00:20:39,240 Amy Robach: these races, peanut butter and banana is the one thing 395 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,050 Amy Robach: I can eat, I think beforehand. And I struggle with 396 00:20:43,050 --> 00:20:46,980 Amy Robach: the fueling, and somehow you just, I don't know, you run 397 00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:47,731 Amy Robach: on empty and you're fine. 398 00:20:47,731 --> 00:20:52,168 T. J. Holmes: No, I just don't like anything on my stomach. I try to eat a little something 399 00:20:52,170 --> 00:20:55,020 T. J. Holmes: before a marathon just for fuel, but- 400 00:20:55,619 --> 00:20:55,859 Amy Robach: Not much. 401 00:20:55,859 --> 00:20:57,809 T. J. Holmes: Even the half- marathons. Yeah, I just don't. 402 00:20:57,809 --> 00:21:00,299 Rob Simmelkjaer: Same here. Same here. If it's not a marathon, I'm 403 00:21:00,330 --> 00:21:02,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: not eating before, because I don't want anything in there. 404 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: I completely agree. Listening to you guys, I love listening 405 00:21:07,109 --> 00:21:11,638 Rob Simmelkjaer: to you, because I mean, you're a running couple. And how 406 00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:14,519 Rob Simmelkjaer: has running changed for you, T. J., I'll ask it 407 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,909 Rob Simmelkjaer: to you first, being part of a running unit of 408 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:20,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: two people versus just being a runner on your own? 409 00:21:22,290 --> 00:21:24,090 T. J. Holmes: Well, it slows me down, Rob, to be honest with 410 00:21:24,090 --> 00:21:24,869 T. J. Holmes: you. It slows me down. 411 00:21:25,619 --> 00:21:28,980 Amy Robach: He's not lying. That's absolutely true. Oh, my God. 412 00:21:31,410 --> 00:21:35,520 T. J. Holmes: It's always good to have a partner. It doesn't matter. 413 00:21:35,580 --> 00:21:39,090 T. J. Holmes: There's very little we can think of in life that 414 00:21:39,090 --> 00:21:42,330 T. J. Holmes: we prefer to do on our own. I know Becks 415 00:21:42,330 --> 00:21:44,369 T. J. Holmes: is talking about go for some of the morning runs 416 00:21:44,369 --> 00:21:49,349 T. J. Holmes: on the ... Some of that's great, but it's wonderful, especially 417 00:21:49,349 --> 00:21:51,388 T. J. Holmes: when you're running a marathon or training for it. Not even 418 00:21:51,388 --> 00:21:54,688 T. J. Holmes: running it, training for it, to have somebody every single 419 00:21:54,690 --> 00:21:57,060 T. J. Holmes: day that is your partner who's on the same running 420 00:21:57,060 --> 00:22:01,140 T. J. Holmes: schedule, who gets it. You can struggle together but also 421 00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:05,280 T. J. Holmes: have fun together. It's an event every single training line, 422 00:22:05,429 --> 00:22:07,440 T. J. Holmes: where are we starting? Where are we ending? Where are 423 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,080 T. J. Holmes: we going to have a beer afterwards? Where are we 424 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,280 T. J. Holmes: doing lunch? All these things, so it just becomes an activity. 425 00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:18,119 T. J. Holmes: Look, couples are always looking for things to do together 426 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,478 T. J. Holmes: and to have similar interests. He might like Marvel movies. 427 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,929 T. J. Holmes: She wants to watch a Nicholas Sparks movie. Did I say Nicholas? 428 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,501 Amy Robach: Yeah, you got it right. 429 00:22:25,501 --> 00:22:28,138 T. J. Holmes: I got the author right. Yeah, the author of the Notebook, 430 00:22:28,138 --> 00:22:28,859 T. J. Holmes: if y'all didn't know. 431 00:22:28,859 --> 00:22:31,080 Amy Robach: Yes, yeah, I think every woman knows who Nicholas Sparks is. 432 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,629 T. J. Holmes: Okay. What I'm saying, we have so much we can be 433 00:22:33,630 --> 00:22:36,510 T. J. Holmes: different about. But this is one thing that for us, 434 00:22:36,990 --> 00:22:41,638 T. J. Holmes: it's a great habit and hobby for a couple to 435 00:22:41,638 --> 00:22:44,309 T. J. Holmes: have that keeps you together. This would be things we 436 00:22:44,309 --> 00:22:47,969 T. J. Holmes: would be doing separately. I would be spending so much 437 00:22:47,969 --> 00:22:51,780 T. J. Holmes: time running if she wasn't a runner as well. And 438 00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:55,590 T. J. Holmes: so instead, we get to be together for this thing 439 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:57,269 T. J. Holmes: that takes up so much of our lives, so it's good. 440 00:22:58,259 --> 00:23:01,138 Amy Robach: Yeah, I mean, I think I have lots of friends whose 441 00:23:01,138 --> 00:23:03,570 Amy Robach: partners do not run, and so they call themselves like 442 00:23:03,570 --> 00:23:07,770 Amy Robach: marathon widows or widowers and they complain that, even my 443 00:23:07,770 --> 00:23:10,678 Amy Robach: mom would complain about my dad always running. My cousins, 444 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:12,928 Amy Robach: one of them is a runner, the other one isn't. And 445 00:23:12,930 --> 00:23:14,908 Amy Robach: they complain about all the time that they don't get 446 00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:17,819 Amy Robach: to spend with their partner. And so, we actually have 447 00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:20,158 Amy Robach: that advantage that ... Especially in the long runs, we do 448 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,648 Amy Robach: solo runs or smaller runs on our own all the 449 00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:25,409 Amy Robach: time. But the long ones, we pretty much run them 450 00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:29,609 Amy Robach: all together. And I feel like not only is it motivational 451 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:32,250 Amy Robach: to have someone to keep you honest on the schedule, 452 00:23:32,580 --> 00:23:34,829 Amy Robach: but also it just feels like you're in it together. And 453 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:37,080 Amy Robach: it's hard. We all know how hard those long runs 454 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,780 Amy Robach: are. And even intimidating. And it's weird, no matter how 455 00:23:39,780 --> 00:23:42,418 Amy Robach: many marathons I've run, I still get intimidated by the 456 00:23:42,450 --> 00:23:46,980 Amy Robach: long training runs, the 18 milers. I get nervous. To 457 00:23:46,980 --> 00:23:49,770 Amy Robach: know he's with me, somehow it makes me feel just, 458 00:23:49,770 --> 00:23:51,809 Amy Robach: I don't know, better about it. And the fact that 459 00:23:51,809 --> 00:23:54,688 Amy Robach: we're doing it together, it's a mutual suffering, so somehow 460 00:23:54,690 --> 00:23:57,059 Amy Robach: it makes it feel less awful. 461 00:23:57,599 --> 00:24:01,859 Becs Gentry: Yeah, that rings very true, very true. Amy, I want to 462 00:24:01,859 --> 00:24:09,359 Becs Gentry: ask you specifically about your breast cancer journey. You've talked 463 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,049 Becs Gentry: about it obviously very, very openly. And when you were going through 464 00:24:13,049 --> 00:24:18,090 Becs Gentry: chemotherapy, you actually spoke about how running was a way 465 00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:21,060 Becs Gentry: that helped you overcome nausea and fatigue that you were 466 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:26,190 Becs Gentry: feeling at the time. And you're talking about how scary 467 00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:30,330 Becs Gentry: those 18 to 20 miles training runs are. And then when you 468 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:34,500 Becs Gentry: put that into context of you building the courage to 469 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:39,990 Becs Gentry: get out there and run during chemotherapy, cancer diagnosis. And I'm 470 00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:41,700 Becs Gentry: sure there's a lot of our listeners out there who 471 00:24:41,910 --> 00:24:44,280 Becs Gentry: are going through exactly what you went through at that 472 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,059 Becs Gentry: time. Have you got advice for them of how to ... That fear 473 00:24:48,059 --> 00:24:50,520 Becs Gentry: that you speak about so powerfully? 474 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,070 Amy Robach: Yeah, no, Becs, it's true. I can tell you that I 475 00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:58,650 Amy Robach: was not running the way I was before and the way 476 00:24:58,650 --> 00:25:01,290 Amy Robach: I did after, I had to obviously take it down. 477 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Amy Robach: I was running, I'd go out and run one mile, 478 00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:06,510 Amy Robach: and that was it. And that was a huge, huge 479 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:11,969 Amy Robach: feat for me in those full year I was struggling. 480 00:25:11,969 --> 00:25:14,609 Amy Robach: And my dad actually, my dad and my mom moved 481 00:25:14,609 --> 00:25:17,369 Amy Robach: in with me when I went through that just to 482 00:25:17,369 --> 00:25:19,320 Amy Robach: help with the kids and to help with all the 483 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,749 Amy Robach: things that I wasn't really physically up to. But my 484 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:24,150 Amy Robach: dad would go out there and run a mile with 485 00:25:24,150 --> 00:25:26,969 Amy Robach: me a couple of times a week, because my oncologist 486 00:25:26,969 --> 00:25:29,339 Amy Robach: said to me, " When you want to take a nap, 487 00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:31,560 Amy Robach: take a walk. When you think about taking a walk, 488 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,460 Amy Robach: try to push yourself to run. And don't believe that 489 00:25:35,460 --> 00:25:38,580 Amy Robach: you're not capable, that you're too weak." I think you 490 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:44,490 Amy Robach: get into this mindset. Because fear is so unfortunately debilitating, 491 00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:47,100 Amy Robach: it can either cripple you or it can motivate you. And 492 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,050 Amy Robach: so she was like, " Take that fear of thinking your 493 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,208 Amy Robach: body is failing you, of the weakness you're feeling, of the 494 00:25:51,210 --> 00:25:53,940 Amy Robach: fatigue you're feeling, and just push yourself a little bit 495 00:25:53,940 --> 00:25:55,918 Amy Robach: further than you think you can. And you're going to 496 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,229 Amy Robach: be okay and you're going to feel the better for 497 00:25:58,230 --> 00:26:00,869 Amy Robach: it." And so I remember, I can still, I'll get 498 00:26:00,869 --> 00:26:03,418 Amy Robach: emotional thinking about it, but there is a part that 499 00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:05,039 Amy Robach: we actually run all the time now, because I was 500 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:06,928 Amy Robach: living in the financial district when I was going through 501 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,760 Amy Robach: chemo. And my dad and I would go on these 502 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,629 Amy Robach: runs around the Hudson right around Battery Park City where 503 00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:15,779 Amy Robach: you could see the Statue of Liberty. And I remember feeling 504 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:18,750 Amy Robach: like I couldn't believe how weak I felt and how 505 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:22,949 Amy Robach: tired I was just running one mile, and how it 506 00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:26,010 Amy Robach: was discouraging. But I remember just going on that run 507 00:26:26,010 --> 00:26:27,510 Amy Robach: and having my dad next to me and I would 508 00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:30,478 Amy Robach: be sobbing sometimes during that one mile feeling sorry for 509 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,138 Amy Robach: myself or being upset about where I was physically in 510 00:26:34,138 --> 00:26:36,240 Amy Robach: the process, but knowing that I was still out there 511 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,279 Amy Robach: doing it. And so sometimes I'll run by that same 512 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,910 Amy Robach: path and get emotional just thinking about where I was 513 00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:45,208 Amy Robach: then and where I am now. And just knowing, I 514 00:26:45,210 --> 00:26:48,540 Amy Robach: think for anyone who's fighting any sort of illness, if 515 00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:51,240 Amy Robach: you can push yourself just a little bit past, you're 516 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,550 Amy Robach: already uncomfortable, let's face it, with whatever you're dealing with, 517 00:26:53,550 --> 00:26:55,080 Amy Robach: especially if you're going through chemo. But if you can 518 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,080 Amy Robach: just push yourself a little bit past what you think 519 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,369 Amy Robach: you can handle, you'll be amazed at that feeling of 520 00:27:02,369 --> 00:27:05,698 Amy Robach: accomplishing something even in the middle of one of your 521 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,190 Amy Robach: biggest nightmares. And so anyway, looking back and reflecting on 522 00:27:08,190 --> 00:27:10,800 Amy Robach: it, I'm proud that I was able to do it, 523 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,119 Amy Robach: but I don't think I could have done it if 524 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,070 Amy Robach: my dad wasn't by my side. So, having someone do 525 00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:16,168 Amy Robach: it with you makes a huge difference. And just knowing that, 526 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,810 Amy Robach: I mean, even if it's like 10 minutes or five 527 00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:22,408 Amy Robach: minutes, it's better than just being in fetal position. I 528 00:27:22,410 --> 00:27:26,190 Amy Robach: think that was my choice. Like fetal position, or keep 529 00:27:26,190 --> 00:27:27,989 Amy Robach: moving, keep putting one foot in front of the other. 530 00:27:29,219 --> 00:27:30,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: Amazing. Absolutely- 531 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:31,921 Becs Gentry: So strong. 532 00:27:31,921 --> 00:27:34,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: We talk about it all the time. Just keep going, right? That's what the sport's all 533 00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:37,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: about. That's what life is so often all about is 534 00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:40,978 Rob Simmelkjaer: just keep going. And T. J., you've kept going through 535 00:27:40,980 --> 00:27:44,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: a couple of marathons. You've run the last two TCS 536 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York City Marathons, and not only do you run 537 00:27:47,609 --> 00:27:53,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: these marathons, but you permanently commemorate these marathons on your 538 00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: body. Can you talk a bit about what it is 539 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: you do to celebrate your marathon runs? 540 00:27:57,930 --> 00:28:01,770 T. J. Holmes: Look, somebody used to tell me about my college education. 541 00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:03,780 T. J. Holmes: They said, " Make sure you get your college degree. That 542 00:28:03,780 --> 00:28:06,359 T. J. Holmes: is one thing that nobody is ever going to be able to take away 543 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,149 T. J. Holmes: from you." The other thing nobody can take away from 544 00:28:09,150 --> 00:28:11,969 T. J. Holmes: me, Rob, the fact that I crossed the finish line 545 00:28:11,969 --> 00:28:14,880 T. J. Holmes: at two marathons. So, hell yeah, I got a tattoo 546 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,190 T. J. Holmes: in my arm, but it is. And Becs, maybe you haven't seen. 547 00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:21,990 T. J. Holmes: I think Rob, you have, you can't really see it 548 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:26,129 T. J. Holmes: here that well, but it's the map of the New 549 00:28:26,130 --> 00:28:27,029 T. J. Holmes: York City. 550 00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:27,388 Becs Gentry: Is it really? 551 00:28:28,439 --> 00:28:30,898 T. J. Holmes: It's the route map. And then I have the laurel 552 00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:34,320 T. J. Holmes: there, it says 26.2, and then I left space to 553 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,320 T. J. Holmes: keep adding the dates for the marathon. So, I got 554 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,270 T. J. Holmes: two dates on there now. I'll have a third one 555 00:28:39,270 --> 00:28:43,860 T. J. Holmes: on after this November for New York City Marathon, yes. 556 00:28:44,790 --> 00:28:46,709 T. J. Holmes: I've got so many comments. I hope it doesn't get 557 00:28:46,709 --> 00:28:48,209 T. J. Holmes: out and everybody starts doing it. But yeah, so many 558 00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:50,669 T. J. Holmes: comments at the marathon. 559 00:28:50,669 --> 00:28:56,040 Becs Gentry: Copyright to T.J. Well, no one's going to, well, maybe 560 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,599 Becs Gentry: there might be a few people have the same dates, 561 00:28:57,599 --> 00:28:58,199 Becs Gentry: but hey. 562 00:28:58,259 --> 00:28:58,470 T. J. Holmes: We love it. 563 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:59,370 Becs Gentry: Get your times on there. 564 00:28:59,370 --> 00:28:59,430 T. J. Holmes: We love it. 565 00:29:00,450 --> 00:29:02,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: I've seen them before, by the way. There are others 566 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: out there with the map on their arms, or the 567 00:29:06,810 --> 00:29:09,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: logo. And yeah, we have a logo, but if you 568 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: want to tattoo it on your arm, I think we 569 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: can get the lawyers to overlook that. That's dedication. That's 570 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:17,519 Rob Simmelkjaer: really dedication if you're going to go that far. 571 00:29:18,030 --> 00:29:21,900 T. J. Holmes: No, and only runners recognize it, right? So most people 572 00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:25,320 T. J. Holmes: wouldn't know what the line is. They don't know that's the route. But any runner knows 573 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,239 T. J. Holmes: exactly what that route is. 574 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,549 Becs Gentry: They see that route. That is beautiful. Wow. Inspirational there. Hold 575 00:29:32,550 --> 00:29:38,249 Becs Gentry: on. Next time you see me. Oh, my goodness. Okay, 576 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:43,620 Becs Gentry: so you have marathons coming up, you have races that you 577 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:47,700 Becs Gentry: love to do. Amy, I know that you do a 578 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:51,900 Becs Gentry: lot of running with charity. You actually have lots of runs 579 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:54,509 Becs Gentry: with our New York Road Runners Team for Kids, a charity 580 00:29:54,509 --> 00:29:58,410 Becs Gentry: that raises money for youth and community programs here. So, 581 00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:01,619 Becs Gentry: why is that so important to you guys for helping 582 00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:03,690 Becs Gentry: the generations that are coming ahead of us? 583 00:30:04,140 --> 00:30:07,140 Amy Robach: Well, I think for me, if we can inspire or 584 00:30:07,140 --> 00:30:09,420 Amy Robach: at least contribute to what you all do, your incredible 585 00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:14,340 Amy Robach: work with inspiring younger, would- be athletes out there. I 586 00:30:14,340 --> 00:30:16,650 Amy Robach: think there are so many of our kids and we parents 587 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:20,640 Amy Robach: obviously with children on devices and you see everyone just 588 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,590 Amy Robach: being so insular and isolated and running really is, and running 589 00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:29,279 Amy Robach: races is such a beautiful communal, inspirational activity. And it 590 00:30:29,309 --> 00:30:31,770 Amy Robach: does so many amazing things for your mental health and 591 00:30:31,770 --> 00:30:33,539 Amy Robach: for your physical health. So yes, if we can get 592 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:37,200 Amy Robach: more kids out running, and one of my favorite parts 593 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,960 Amy Robach: about running and always has been through all the different 594 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,870 Amy Robach: stages of my life is that it's absolutely free. I 595 00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:46,260 Amy Robach: mean, you can run anywhere you are. You don't need 596 00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:48,389 Amy Robach: a gym membership, you don't need equipment, you do need 597 00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:50,250 Amy Robach: shoes. That is the one thing that I know some 598 00:30:50,250 --> 00:30:52,979 Amy Robach: people don't have access to. And I know you all 599 00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:54,389 Amy Robach: do a lot of work and so many people do 600 00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:57,570 Amy Robach: in making sure that kids do have the running shoes 601 00:30:57,570 --> 00:30:59,730 Amy Robach: they need. But short of that, you get yourself a pair 602 00:30:59,730 --> 00:31:02,459 Amy Robach: of shoes. You can run anywhere and you can take it 603 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:04,679 Amy Robach: wherever you go with you. And I just have always 604 00:31:04,679 --> 00:31:07,349 Amy Robach: loved the freedom of that. And then just, yes, teaching 605 00:31:07,349 --> 00:31:10,109 Amy Robach: kids that they're stronger than they think. I mean, I've 606 00:31:10,109 --> 00:31:13,530 Amy Robach: pushed my kids through running and hiking and the whole 607 00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:15,810 Amy Robach: point was to know what it's like when you can 608 00:31:15,810 --> 00:31:18,360 Amy Robach: push through pain, when you can push past pain, get 609 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,010 Amy Robach: to the other side of it and really feel a 610 00:31:20,010 --> 00:31:23,759 Amy Robach: sense of accomplishment. That is part of building confidence, that 611 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:26,670 Amy Robach: is part of building just the ability to get through 612 00:31:26,670 --> 00:31:30,359 Amy Robach: tough times. I've always said that running is a parallel 613 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,610 Amy Robach: to life. It really is in so many ways. And 614 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,170 Amy Robach: I've used my runs to push past my own emotional 615 00:31:37,170 --> 00:31:38,729 Amy Robach: pain to think, " If I can get through this, I 616 00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:42,450 Amy Robach: can do that." And I'll use life to remember my 617 00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:44,340 Amy Robach: runs and when I'm on my runs, I'll remember life. 618 00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:46,200 Amy Robach: I got through this, I can do that. And just 619 00:31:46,260 --> 00:31:49,110 Amy Robach: all of those types of lessons are in a run 620 00:31:49,139 --> 00:31:52,020 Amy Robach: in a race. And if we can give that to kids, that 621 00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:54,630 Amy Robach: is an incredible tool that they can use for the 622 00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:55,560 Amy Robach: rest of their lives. 623 00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:59,339 Rob Simmelkjaer: Guys, I want to talk about your awesome podcast a 624 00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:02,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: little bit. I love being on it. It's done really 625 00:32:02,969 --> 00:32:06,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: well. I mean, you guys have a tremendous following. People 626 00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:10,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: love the conversations that you have. They're so open, they're 627 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: so honest. You talk about running a lot, which we 628 00:32:12,750 --> 00:32:15,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: love. But you talk about a lot of other things 629 00:32:15,510 --> 00:32:19,349 Rob Simmelkjaer: too. What's that chapter been like for you? You're both 630 00:32:19,349 --> 00:32:23,999 Rob Simmelkjaer: accomplished broadcasters and now here you are doing this podcast 631 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: with the person you love. What's that been like, T. J.? 632 00:32:29,250 --> 00:32:35,550 T. J. Holmes: Oh, you assume I love her. Okay, Becs doesn't know us well 633 00:32:35,550 --> 00:32:37,590 T. J. Holmes: enough, we're just kidding, Becs, we do that a lot 634 00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:43,530 T. J. Holmes: of time. Look, we talked about how great it is to 635 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,670 T. J. Holmes: have a partner and somebody to run with. So now, 636 00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:53,429 T. J. Holmes: this is my favorite person to work with. We're getting 637 00:32:53,429 --> 00:32:56,280 T. J. Holmes: an opportunity to work together and to work together in 638 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,010 T. J. Holmes: a way that we weren't necessarily able to do so 639 00:32:59,010 --> 00:33:04,260 T. J. Holmes: before in which we can now craft the message, craft 640 00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:06,870 T. J. Holmes: the stories, we can craft, we can do exactly what we 641 00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:09,000 T. J. Holmes: want to do and talk about those things in ways 642 00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:13,380 T. J. Holmes: that we were never really afforded an opportunity from, I 643 00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:15,360 T. J. Holmes: guess the show we were doing before. So, this has 644 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,670 T. J. Holmes: been great. The feedback has been great. Just the things 645 00:33:20,670 --> 00:33:22,830 T. J. Holmes: that touch people and move people that you never really 646 00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:26,730 T. J. Holmes: imagined would, just sometimes one little throwaway sentence we had 647 00:33:26,730 --> 00:33:29,219 T. J. Holmes: in a podcast that we didn't think anything of becomes 648 00:33:29,219 --> 00:33:32,850 T. J. Holmes: the thing that really resonated with folks. So, in that 649 00:33:33,030 --> 00:33:35,519 T. J. Holmes: spirit, look, being able to have a conversation like this 650 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,260 T. J. Holmes: freely, we never could have done this if we were 651 00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:40,920 T. J. Holmes: on television. Just different rules and their time restraints and 652 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,600 T. J. Holmes: all kinds of stuff. But just being able to speak 653 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,030 T. J. Holmes: freely like this and like you all are able to 654 00:33:45,030 --> 00:33:47,700 T. J. Holmes: do in your podcast is just, we love it. 655 00:33:49,770 --> 00:33:52,440 Becs Gentry: It's a fantastic podcast, I must say, I'm a fan. 656 00:33:53,370 --> 00:33:55,050 Becs Gentry: I listen to a lot of them. One of my 657 00:33:55,050 --> 00:33:58,650 Becs Gentry: favorite, I get on a rant about social media in 658 00:33:58,650 --> 00:34:02,490 Becs Gentry: my classes quite a lot and I personally get a 659 00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:04,170 Becs Gentry: little bit freaked out that we live our life in 660 00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:07,379 Becs Gentry: these squares and that we're so obsessed with how these 661 00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:10,139 Becs Gentry: squares perform. But then on a day- to- day basis 662 00:34:10,139 --> 00:34:11,790 Becs Gentry: we're not that bothered about how we perform in life. 663 00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:16,110 Becs Gentry: Anyway, we could go on. I think that episode was 664 00:34:16,110 --> 00:34:20,219 Becs Gentry: fantastic. I was like, " They see me, they hear, we're 665 00:34:20,219 --> 00:34:23,130 Becs Gentry: on the same page." And then I think you were also talking about one of 666 00:34:23,130 --> 00:34:26,549 Becs Gentry: my favorite new runners in the country music world, Jelly 667 00:34:26,549 --> 00:34:29,160 Becs Gentry: Roll as well. It was just one of my favorite episodes 668 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,001 Becs Gentry: where I was like, " I swear we need to (inaudible) 669 00:34:32,001 --> 00:34:35,879 Becs Gentry: ." And here we are. 670 00:34:35,879 --> 00:34:37,650 T. J. Holmes: That's what we mean, exactly. You're making the point. For 671 00:34:37,650 --> 00:34:40,679 T. J. Holmes: us, we never realized something like Jelly Roll, like a 672 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,530 T. J. Holmes: small thing that we didn't think much. It may not 673 00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:46,799 T. J. Holmes: have been the big subject of that podcast or topic 674 00:34:46,799 --> 00:34:49,080 T. J. Holmes: of the day, but just things we are able to 675 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,919 T. J. Holmes: express now are things that people are going, " Oh," and 676 00:34:53,219 --> 00:34:55,920 T. J. Holmes: we're hearing back from them. So, it really has been wonderful 677 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,250 T. J. Holmes: for us. 678 00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:59,490 Amy Robach: Yeah, I think we've been able to flex muscles that we 679 00:34:59,969 --> 00:35:03,750 Amy Robach: weren't allowed to before, because as journalists you don't have 680 00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:05,909 Amy Robach: opinions. You're not supposed, well, you do, but you're not 681 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:09,149 Amy Robach: supposed to ever express them, and you work very hard 682 00:35:09,150 --> 00:35:11,940 Amy Robach: to keep that filter in place. And so, to take 683 00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:15,719 Amy Robach: that filter off and slowly be able to talk about 684 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,200 Amy Robach: things in human ways, not just as a journalist or 685 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,839 Amy Robach: a broadcaster, but as a human being who has a 686 00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:25,020 Amy Robach: reaction to things and has lived through enough life to 687 00:35:25,020 --> 00:35:28,830 Amy Robach: have some context to be able to place on certain 688 00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:31,710 Amy Robach: world events has been really freeing, I think is maybe 689 00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:33,569 Amy Robach: the best way to put it. It's a little scary at 690 00:35:33,570 --> 00:35:36,509 Amy Robach: first, and then you feel the freedom of being able 691 00:35:36,509 --> 00:35:39,479 Amy Robach: to use your voice hopefully for good or to at 692 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,600 Amy Robach: least create a different perspective than maybe that's out there. 693 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,339 Amy Robach: And we never were able to do that before. 694 00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:48,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Totally get it. Yeah, just a different format where it's 695 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: more about you and what's on your mind versus the 696 00:35:50,730 --> 00:35:53,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: story. And so, it's just a very different way of 697 00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:55,889 Rob Simmelkjaer: broadcasting, and you guys are great at it, so I 698 00:35:55,889 --> 00:35:59,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: hope you keep doing it for a long time. All right, 699 00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:02,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: so I have to ask just the Road Runner's angle 700 00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:06,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: for both of you. And Amy, you mentioned earlier becoming 701 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: a member of Road Runners and the impact it had. For 702 00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:12,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: those out there listening, maybe they're thinking about joining Road 703 00:36:12,210 --> 00:36:15,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: Runners or getting involved or starting a running habit. How 704 00:36:15,570 --> 00:36:18,299 Rob Simmelkjaer: has New York Road Runners really helped and inspired you? 705 00:36:20,850 --> 00:36:24,330 Amy Robach: Because I have ... Well, first of all, I love your 706 00:36:24,330 --> 00:36:29,520 Amy Robach: organization. I love everyone who works there. They're amazing. So 707 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,849 Amy Robach: kind, so helpful, and really in it for the right 708 00:36:32,849 --> 00:36:36,119 Amy Robach: reasons. I love runners and I love this organization, because 709 00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:39,120 Amy Robach: it's about supporting runners and there really is, and I've 710 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,250 Amy Robach: said this a couple of times, but a communal feeling 711 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,429 Amy Robach: to running a race, but also just knowing that we 712 00:36:44,429 --> 00:36:47,669 Amy Robach: all get the benefits. We all want to spread that 713 00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:50,189 Amy Robach: love and that joy of running to other people, because 714 00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:53,549 Amy Robach: it's intimidating and it's hard, and a lot of runs 715 00:36:53,549 --> 00:36:57,480 Amy Robach: aren't fun. But if you can explain the passion and 716 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,070 Amy Robach: the reason why we love it, you all do such 717 00:36:59,070 --> 00:37:02,759 Amy Robach: a good job of getting that messaging out. And the 718 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,649 Amy Robach: races, just the sheer amount of races that you have 719 00:37:07,650 --> 00:37:12,029 Amy Robach: available to people from all different types of abilities. So, 720 00:37:12,029 --> 00:37:15,600 Amy Robach: you have the five Ks, you have the one milers, 721 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,460 Amy Robach: you have the 15 milers, you have the marathon. I 722 00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:20,190 Amy Robach: mean, there is a race for everybody, and I think 723 00:37:20,190 --> 00:37:23,400 Amy Robach: that's really cool. And the first thing when people ask me, " 724 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,020 Amy Robach: What should I do if I want to start running?" 725 00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:28,109 Amy Robach: I always say, " Join, if it's in New York, New 726 00:37:28,109 --> 00:37:30,930 Amy Robach: York Road Runners, but join your local running group. They 727 00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:33,810 Amy Robach: will give you tips, they will help you train, they 728 00:37:33,810 --> 00:37:38,550 Amy Robach: will motivate you. They have group runs to practice." I 729 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:41,759 Amy Robach: mean, there's no excuse to not be able to pick 730 00:37:41,759 --> 00:37:44,130 Amy Robach: up the pace or at least get out there and 731 00:37:44,130 --> 00:37:46,440 Amy Robach: try when you've got a group like the New York 732 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,229 Amy Robach: Road Runners supporting you every step of the way. 733 00:37:49,799 --> 00:37:50,399 Rob Simmelkjaer: We love it. 734 00:37:52,379 --> 00:37:52,620 Becs Gentry: We need you to coach. 735 00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:54,390 Amy Robach: I really do tell people, I'm like, " Go onto New 736 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:56,969 Amy Robach: York Road Runners, go look at their races, sign up 737 00:37:56,969 --> 00:38:00,960 Amy Robach: for a race." And the rest is, that's the first 738 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,670 Amy Robach: step and the biggest step, and the rest of it 739 00:38:02,670 --> 00:38:05,819 Amy Robach: is just now committing. And that's what it takes. You 740 00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:09,180 Amy Robach: get on record, " I'm doing this." And you've got the 741 00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:09,360 Amy Robach: support to do it. 742 00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:13,230 T. J. Holmes: Okay, Rob, we'll send you an invoice for that ringing endorsement. 743 00:38:13,590 --> 00:38:15,419 Rob Simmelkjaer: I can't say it any better than that, and I'm 744 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:17,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: the CEO, so we should just end the show right 745 00:38:17,549 --> 00:38:23,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: now, because that was beautiful. I just want to thank both of you for coming on the 746 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: podcast, for everything you've done for New York Road Runners, 747 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: for running, and we just love to see you guys out 748 00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:35,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: there. So, we got a date then November, 2024. Starting 749 00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:38,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: line, Staten Island, TCS New York City Marathon. See you there. 750 00:38:40,379 --> 00:38:42,150 T. J. Holmes: You'll see us there. 751 00:38:43,950 --> 00:38:45,810 Amy Robach: I'll tell you. So, here's the deal. I did this 752 00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:48,660 Amy Robach: a couple of years ago. T. J. 's doing it 753 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:53,520 Amy Robach: this year. We're both running the Chicago Marathon, and then 754 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,529 Amy Robach: a few weeks later T. J. 's running the New York 755 00:38:55,530 --> 00:38:59,969 Amy Robach: City Marathon. I did that back in 2022, I think, 756 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,360 Amy Robach: and it was an amazing experience to run two marathons 757 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,300 Amy Robach: in a row. But I also know, as T. J. 758 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:09,900 Amy Robach: mentioned, running with me slows him down, which is absolutely 759 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:12,509 Amy Robach: true. So, I really, really, really- 760 00:39:12,509 --> 00:39:13,288 T. J. Holmes: That sounds bad. 761 00:39:13,409 --> 00:39:14,248 Amy Robach: No, but it's true. 762 00:39:15,509 --> 00:39:15,510 T. J. Holmes: You should find another way to say it. 763 00:39:15,509 --> 00:39:17,699 Amy Robach: I have asked you if you would be willing to 764 00:39:17,699 --> 00:39:20,070 Amy Robach: go and just get your PR, because you've never seen 765 00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:22,440 Amy Robach: what it is in a marathon yet. And so for me to 766 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,700 Amy Robach: take a step back from New York this year, because 767 00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:29,340 Amy Robach: if we do Chicago together, I really was strategic about 768 00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:33,599 Amy Robach: this. We then are on the exact same training playbook, 769 00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:36,388 Amy Robach: so we'll do all the runs together. And then the 770 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,690 Amy Robach: Chicago Marathon is basically like your 20 miler and then 771 00:39:39,690 --> 00:39:42,960 Amy Robach: you taper. So, I'm going to be cheering him on, 772 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,860 Amy Robach: and I'm very excited, for the first time New York 773 00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:49,919 Amy Robach: City Marathon cheering on someone else, cheering on T. J. 774 00:39:50,130 --> 00:39:53,850 Amy Robach: I'm going to have FOMO 100%, but I'm going to sit 775 00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:56,910 Amy Robach: New York City out this year, mainly because I really 776 00:39:56,910 --> 00:39:57,629 Amy Robach: want him to get a PR. 777 00:39:57,629 --> 00:39:58,109 T. J. Holmes: Oh, please, (inaudible) back. 778 00:39:58,109 --> 00:39:59,940 Amy Robach: He won't get a PR without me. 779 00:39:59,940 --> 00:40:04,680 T. J. Holmes: It's like you're doing me favors. 780 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,599 Amy Robach: I've already done the two in a row, so I 781 00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:07,411 Amy Robach: don't need to do it again. 782 00:40:07,410 --> 00:40:07,411 Becs Gentry: I need a favor. 783 00:40:07,411 --> 00:40:11,790 Amy Robach: And I really love you to get your PR. I'm very excited about what your PR is going 784 00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:11,940 Amy Robach: to be going to be. 785 00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:12,001 T. J. Holmes: You really do me a favor. That's why be, Becs, she's not running it. Not because it'd be hard. 786 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:21,420 Becs Gentry: I hear the favor. I hear the love, the love, the favor here. 787 00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:23,190 Amy Robach: It's called sacrifice. 788 00:40:23,340 --> 00:40:23,491 Becs Gentry: It is. 789 00:40:23,491 --> 00:40:25,500 Amy Robach: Sacrifice is the love. 790 00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:28,139 Becs Gentry: That's what I'm hearing. And she's going to be cheering 791 00:40:28,139 --> 00:40:28,950 Becs Gentry: so loud. 792 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:31,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: She's going to milk that for a long time, T. J., I can 793 00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:33,002 Rob Simmelkjaer: see it. Get ready. (inaudible) . 794 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,719 Becs Gentry: You better get a really big PR here, buddy. 795 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,361 Amy Robach: The things they do for you. Yep. 796 00:40:39,361 --> 00:40:44,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, I think it's a great plan, T. J. You're going to have a really 797 00:40:44,429 --> 00:40:47,669 Rob Simmelkjaer: great long run in Chicago, the full distance, and then 798 00:40:48,029 --> 00:40:49,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're going to be primed and ready to go. I 799 00:40:49,590 --> 00:40:53,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: think four hours is about to fall in your marathon 800 00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:56,909 Rob Simmelkjaer: record book, because you've been just over four hours. I 801 00:40:56,910 --> 00:40:59,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: feel like something starting with a three is coming out 802 00:40:59,250 --> 00:40:59,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: of you. 803 00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:02,400 T. J. Holmes: It's coming, for sure. And again, we were ready. We 804 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,799 T. J. Holmes: would have done that together in New York on this 805 00:41:04,799 --> 00:41:07,830 T. J. Holmes: last one, but sometimes you got to stop and vomit 806 00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:08,370 T. J. Holmes: for a little while. 807 00:41:08,370 --> 00:41:11,730 Amy Robach: That's what happened to me. We were on track to do the four 808 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,779 Amy Robach: and at mile 22 I literally threw up on myself. And kept 809 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,190 Amy Robach: running for a little while and then I was like, " It's nope." So, then 810 00:41:20,190 --> 00:41:21,659 Amy Robach: I had to go off to the side and we 811 00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:23,670 Amy Robach: lost 10 minutes. It was tough. And then I slowed 812 00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:29,940 Amy Robach: down too, and so the whole rhythm got shot. So, it was 813 00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:30,690 Amy Robach: really hot. 814 00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:34,650 T. J. Holmes: Yeah, Becs, this wasn't a pit stop. This was a full- 815 00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:39,540 Amy Robach: My stomach was seizing, it was seizing. It was like 816 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:42,629 Amy Robach: you had a Charley horse cramp in your stomach. I was like, " Oh 817 00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:45,900 Amy Robach: my God." I was so mad too. And then I 818 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,480 Amy Robach: laughed, because my dad is always tracking us and I 819 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,500 Amy Robach: had my AirPod in, one AirPod in, and he was saying when 820 00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,410 Amy Robach: he saw our half- marathon pace, he was like, " You're 821 00:41:55,410 --> 00:41:57,870 Amy Robach: going to get sub four, way to go." Which then 822 00:41:57,870 --> 00:41:59,759 Amy Robach: of course stressed me out even more. I was like, " 823 00:42:00,029 --> 00:42:01,619 Amy Robach: Oh my God, I'm going to get a sub four." 824 00:42:02,819 --> 00:42:05,002 Amy Robach: Pressure. You must be, (inaudible) . 825 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:09,750 Becs Gentry: Oh, my goodness. That's like the inauguration into a deep 826 00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:13,259 Becs Gentry: runner. When you've thrown up on yourself, you keep going, 827 00:42:13,259 --> 00:42:15,330 Becs Gentry: you're like, " I've got this. I'm going to get through 828 00:42:15,330 --> 00:42:18,510 Becs Gentry: this." And then you have to go back again. 829 00:42:20,489 --> 00:42:23,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, as hesitant as I am to end the interview 830 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: on the vomit story, I think we are just about there. 831 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,460 T. J. Holmes: Sorry, sorry. 832 00:42:31,049 --> 00:42:33,839 Rob Simmelkjaer: But I know you're going to do great this year. 833 00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:35,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: Look forward to seeing how you do in Chicago. It's 834 00:42:35,850 --> 00:42:39,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: flat, it's fast. Amy, that's going to be your day 835 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: too. I think under four could happen for you that 836 00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:45,749 Rob Simmelkjaer: day too. So, just keep everything inside the body and you 837 00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:47,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: got a shot, you got a shot. 838 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:47,311 Amy Robach: Going to do my best. Yes. 839 00:42:47,310 --> 00:42:55,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: Amy and T. J., they're great. Great to have you 840 00:42:55,739 --> 00:42:58,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: both on the show. T. J. Holmes, Amy Robach, thanks 841 00:42:58,770 --> 00:43:02,009 Rob Simmelkjaer: for everything, and we will see you very soon back 842 00:43:02,010 --> 00:43:02,459 Rob Simmelkjaer: in New York. 843 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:04,561 T. J. Holmes: Thank you, guys. 844 00:43:04,561 --> 00:43:04,981 Amy Robach: Bye. Thank you. 845 00:43:18,090 --> 00:43:20,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: Now it's time for our member moment. And today we 846 00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:24,329 Rob Simmelkjaer: have a New York Road Runners member. Michelle Moore is 847 00:43:24,330 --> 00:43:27,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: an author and a psychologist, and I was very happy 848 00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:31,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: to receive her book, actually in the mail recently. The 849 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: book is called Sustainable Wellness: A Memoir of Loss, Perseverance 850 00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:38,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: and Resilience. Michelle, it is great to have you on 851 00:43:38,730 --> 00:43:39,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: Set the Pace. 852 00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:42,150 Michelle Moore: Thanks so much for having me. Excited to be here. 853 00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:46,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: Michelle, I really was struck by receiving your book, because 854 00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:49,259 Rob Simmelkjaer: it just happened to be during the first couple of 855 00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:52,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: days of Mental Health Awareness month. We are making this 856 00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:55,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: a real focus at New York Road Runners, and just 857 00:43:55,650 --> 00:43:59,729 Rob Simmelkjaer: gleaning your story about the losses that you endured in 858 00:43:59,730 --> 00:44:03,629 Rob Simmelkjaer: your life. Losing a brother when you were young, losing 859 00:44:03,630 --> 00:44:08,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: your mother, your father, and how you were able to get through 860 00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:10,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: all of this and the role that running played. And you 861 00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:13,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: got a whole chapter in there about running the TCS 862 00:44:13,469 --> 00:44:17,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York City Marathon and the impact that had. Can you 863 00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:20,519 Rob Simmelkjaer: talk about how this all came together for you in 864 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:20,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: a book? 865 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:28,290 Michelle Moore: Absolutely. So, I realized not until just this past year 866 00:44:28,290 --> 00:44:31,950 Michelle Moore: that writing and running have really played a pivotal role 867 00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:34,589 Michelle Moore: in being able to recover from loss. And I found 868 00:44:34,590 --> 00:44:36,779 Michelle Moore: that in my early 20s as I was trying to 869 00:44:36,780 --> 00:44:40,109 Michelle Moore: navigate this world after my brother died. And then it 870 00:44:40,109 --> 00:44:43,739 Michelle Moore: wasn't really until 20 years later, so in the past since 871 00:44:43,739 --> 00:44:49,110 Michelle Moore: 2017, that I really had this resurgence of where running 872 00:44:49,110 --> 00:44:51,780 Michelle Moore: played this really pivotal role. My mom was diagnosed with 873 00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:55,379 Michelle Moore: ALS in 2017, and at that time I realized I 874 00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:58,109 Michelle Moore: needed to do something to take care of myself. As 875 00:44:58,109 --> 00:45:00,690 Michelle Moore: a psychologist I had patients I was caring for, I 876 00:45:00,690 --> 00:45:02,879 Michelle Moore: was a mother of two children. I had all these 877 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,529 Michelle Moore: aspects of my life that I knew I had to 878 00:45:04,530 --> 00:45:07,140 Michelle Moore: hold together, while also trying to support my mom and 879 00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:10,710 Michelle Moore: be a caretaker. And running gave me this place that 880 00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:13,020 Michelle Moore: I could go that was just for me, where I 881 00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:16,019 Michelle Moore: was alone and I could be with my thoughts. Sometimes 882 00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:18,509 Michelle Moore: I could cry, I could run fast if I needed 883 00:45:18,510 --> 00:45:21,750 Michelle Moore: to, whatever I needed just to get the emotions flowing 884 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:24,540 Michelle Moore: through. And it was such a relief to be able 885 00:45:24,540 --> 00:45:26,849 Michelle Moore: to have this space to be able to get all 886 00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:29,160 Michelle Moore: the emotion out during this really pivotal time of my 887 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,400 Michelle Moore: life. And at that same time, I also realized that 888 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,479 Michelle Moore: there was something about distance running. That having this time 889 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,479 Michelle Moore: to run for long periods of time also was very 890 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,540 Michelle Moore: cathartic and very therapeutic. And so I signed up for 891 00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:46,920 Michelle Moore: my first half- marathon in 2017 after my mom's diagnosis. 892 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,340 Michelle Moore: And after that I just got hooked and wanted to 893 00:45:50,340 --> 00:45:52,319 Michelle Moore: see how far I could take it and how much 894 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,890 Michelle Moore: further I could go. And I realized that a 5K then 895 00:45:55,890 --> 00:45:59,040 Michelle Moore: felt like a sprint and just wasn't enough time to 896 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,120 Michelle Moore: really, really get into that pace and that comfort space. 897 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:07,770 Michelle Moore: And so, getting all the way up to, in 2023 898 00:46:07,770 --> 00:46:12,270 Michelle Moore: I had an opportunity to run with ALS Association of 899 00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:16,379 Michelle Moore: Greater New York during the New York Marathon. And once 900 00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:18,569 Michelle Moore: I got that bib and knew I had secured that 901 00:46:18,570 --> 00:46:22,410 Michelle Moore: spot, not only was running giving me this physical wellness 902 00:46:22,410 --> 00:46:25,320 Michelle Moore: that I needed, but it also fulfilled the spiritual wellness. 903 00:46:25,650 --> 00:46:27,540 Michelle Moore: It was part of my purpose. It was part of 904 00:46:27,540 --> 00:46:30,689 Michelle Moore: the reason of why I was running. It wasn't just 905 00:46:30,690 --> 00:46:32,940 Michelle Moore: about the running, it was about taking care of all these 906 00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:36,060 Michelle Moore: many parts of me, and being able to really give 907 00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:39,420 Michelle Moore: back to the community in a very different way and raise awareness 908 00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:40,080 Michelle Moore: for ALS. 909 00:46:41,460 --> 00:46:44,820 Meb Keflezighi: Michelle, you know, it's the hardest part about running is getting 910 00:46:44,820 --> 00:46:48,149 Meb Keflezighi: their shoes on, getting started. What advice would you give 911 00:46:48,210 --> 00:46:50,820 Meb Keflezighi: somebody who is struggling and says, " You know what, I'm 912 00:46:50,820 --> 00:46:54,090 Meb Keflezighi: in different mindset." What would be your clue to say, " 913 00:46:54,090 --> 00:46:56,820 Meb Keflezighi: Hey, do this?" What would be the one or two 914 00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:58,260 Meb Keflezighi: things that you would mention to them? 915 00:46:58,889 --> 00:47:00,870 Michelle Moore: I love that question, and I write about it in 916 00:47:00,870 --> 00:47:04,859 Michelle Moore: the book. There's something called a growth mindset. And the 917 00:47:04,859 --> 00:47:07,620 Michelle Moore: difference between a fixed mindset and a growth mindset, growth 918 00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:11,610 Michelle Moore: mindset being that you believe that even despite a challenge 919 00:47:11,610 --> 00:47:15,900 Michelle Moore: you can overcome, you can continue forward. Any setback is 920 00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:18,660 Michelle Moore: just a minor setback. You're still able to see this 921 00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:21,269 Michelle Moore: focal point in the future. And I think especially in 922 00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:25,170 Michelle Moore: the beginning stages of long distance running, there are tons 923 00:47:25,170 --> 00:47:28,140 Michelle Moore: of setbacks. You have to learn how to do nutrition, 924 00:47:28,140 --> 00:47:31,560 Michelle Moore: you have to learn how to overcome tendonitis and all 925 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,310 Michelle Moore: these physical things as your body is changing and transforming 926 00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:38,969 Michelle Moore: into the ability to run longer distances. And so, that 927 00:47:38,969 --> 00:47:41,190 Michelle Moore: was something I learned early on that I had to 928 00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:44,939 Michelle Moore: be able to have some grace and have some humility 929 00:47:45,210 --> 00:47:49,800 Michelle Moore: with the process of letting my body slowly be beaten 930 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,660 Michelle Moore: up on a run, but then also be able to 931 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:55,380 Michelle Moore: recover. So, that growth mindset piece of really being able 932 00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:59,759 Michelle Moore: to see that you're capable of so much more if 933 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,790 Michelle Moore: you really set your mind to it. And the mindset 934 00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:05,219 Michelle Moore: that you guys talk about all the time on this 935 00:48:05,219 --> 00:48:08,460 Michelle Moore: podcast of the mental effort that goes into running a race, 936 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,569 Michelle Moore: that so much of it is about the mental side 937 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,509 Michelle Moore: that physically you have to prepare your body, but mentally 938 00:48:15,509 --> 00:48:16,949 Michelle Moore: you have to be prepared too, and you have to 939 00:48:16,949 --> 00:48:19,410 Michelle Moore: believe in yourself. You have to know that you can 940 00:48:19,410 --> 00:48:20,879 Michelle Moore: do it. You have to trust yourself that you can do it. 941 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: Michelle, what I love about your book, Sustainable Wellness is, 942 00:48:26,429 --> 00:48:30,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: you create a roadmap for people to really have a 943 00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:35,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: plan for sustainable wellness. And there are six elements of 944 00:48:35,219 --> 00:48:37,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: it. And what I love is that so many of 945 00:48:37,590 --> 00:48:40,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: them touch running when you think about it. Emotional wellness, 946 00:48:40,890 --> 00:48:47,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: physical wellness, social wellness, occupational wellness, intellectual wellness and spiritual 947 00:48:47,969 --> 00:48:50,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: wellness. And in just looking at that, I can think 948 00:48:50,670 --> 00:48:55,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: three easily. I mean, emotional wellness, certainly physical, and the 949 00:48:55,050 --> 00:48:57,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: social side for folks who get together and run in 950 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:01,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: groups. Even the intellectual side, planning out your race plan, 951 00:49:02,010 --> 00:49:05,639 Rob Simmelkjaer: your times, your splits, things like that. Spiritual as well 952 00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:07,409 Rob Simmelkjaer: for a lot of people. I mean really, so much of 953 00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:09,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: this can be aided by running. 954 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,640 Michelle Moore: I absolutely agree. I have also found that from occupational 955 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,100 Michelle Moore: side, because sometimes I'm like, " Where does occupational fit in?" 956 00:49:17,310 --> 00:49:19,650 Michelle Moore: As a psychologist, I need to take care of my 957 00:49:19,650 --> 00:49:23,160 Michelle Moore: wellness. As a provider, as someone who's giving back to 958 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,519 Michelle Moore: a community, especially in the healthcare industry, I have to 959 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,129 Michelle Moore: make sure that I am well in order to be 960 00:49:29,129 --> 00:49:31,500 Michelle Moore: able to give that to others. I think that occupational 961 00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:34,530 Michelle Moore: wellness really does tie in nicely. And for me, the 962 00:49:34,530 --> 00:49:38,160 Michelle Moore: intellectual side, being able to share the story and share 963 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,830 Michelle Moore: what it is that running is able to do and 964 00:49:40,830 --> 00:49:43,049 Michelle Moore: what it's able to give us is a big part of 965 00:49:43,049 --> 00:49:46,828 Michelle Moore: the intellectual wellness side. I completely agree with you on 966 00:49:46,830 --> 00:49:49,350 Michelle Moore: the social aspect. I know one of my favorite parts 967 00:49:49,890 --> 00:49:52,320 Michelle Moore: of running the New York Marathon just last year was 968 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,660 Michelle Moore: connecting with the ALS community. And that part right before 969 00:49:57,660 --> 00:50:01,020 Michelle Moore: the race begins, and I'm at the Charity Village and 970 00:50:01,020 --> 00:50:03,209 Michelle Moore: getting to connect with other folks who have lost somebody 971 00:50:03,210 --> 00:50:06,300 Michelle Moore: to ALS. And we have this moment where you're like, " 972 00:50:06,330 --> 00:50:08,969 Michelle Moore: You understand, you understand what I've gone through and you 973 00:50:08,969 --> 00:50:12,360 Michelle Moore: understand what this journey has been like." And so, those 974 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,210 Michelle Moore: social elements of the running community are priceless. 975 00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:20,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: So, for folks out there who are suffering from grief, 976 00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:23,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: and you certainly have been through a lot, your story 977 00:50:24,210 --> 00:50:29,009 Rob Simmelkjaer: is tragic, the sequencing of you went through, how would 978 00:50:29,010 --> 00:50:33,629 Rob Simmelkjaer: you advise them to think about even getting started on 979 00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:36,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: a road to recovery, whether it's through running and the 980 00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:39,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: role running can play, or otherwise? 981 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,320 Michelle Moore: If you really break down into these six dimensions of 982 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,450 Michelle Moore: wellness and you really take each one, and you have 983 00:50:45,450 --> 00:50:47,160 Michelle Moore: to discover, there has to be a lot of self- 984 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,350 Michelle Moore: reflection to figure out what is it that works for 985 00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:51,690 Michelle Moore: you. Running is one of the things that I discovered 986 00:50:51,690 --> 00:50:53,700 Michelle Moore: that really works for me. But running might not be 987 00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:56,399 Michelle Moore: for everybody, and long distance events might not be for 988 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,979 Michelle Moore: everybody, and that's okay. But getting out and doing the 989 00:50:58,980 --> 00:51:01,560 Michelle Moore: movement, if you get out and you just start walking, 990 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,460 Michelle Moore: and instead of being really worried about how far you're 991 00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:07,830 Michelle Moore: going or how fast you're going, just get out and 992 00:51:07,830 --> 00:51:12,239 Michelle Moore: move. Put your shoes on and find somebody to go 993 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,710 Michelle Moore: with. Somebody that can hold you accountable. I have found, 994 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,200 Michelle Moore: I have a running buddy. We meet up at six a. 995 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,620 Michelle Moore: m. multiple mornings a week, and there are plenty of 996 00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:25,140 Michelle Moore: days where her and I meet up and I'm like, " I wanted to 997 00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:28,260 Michelle Moore: stay in bed today." She goes, " Me too." But we 998 00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:30,540 Michelle Moore: didn't. We got up because we were meeting each other. 999 00:51:31,110 --> 00:51:34,590 Michelle Moore: And I think whenever we can connect with somebody else 1000 00:51:35,250 --> 00:51:39,810 Michelle Moore: and we find that ability to keep going, because it 1001 00:51:39,810 --> 00:51:42,180 Michelle Moore: means something to keep going, it means something to be 1002 00:51:42,180 --> 00:51:45,210 Michelle Moore: able to know that, for me, knowing that my mom 1003 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:48,239 Michelle Moore: lost the ability to move. And so, I do have 1004 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,619 Michelle Moore: moments when I'm tired and I'm worn down, but I can 1005 00:51:52,619 --> 00:51:54,779 Michelle Moore: move my legs, I can move my toes, I can 1006 00:51:54,780 --> 00:51:57,839 Michelle Moore: move my arms. And I'm very grateful for the ability 1007 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,718 Michelle Moore: to be able to do that. So, that gratitude plays 1008 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,390 Michelle Moore: a huge role. And if you can acknowledge the gratitude, 1009 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,349 Michelle Moore: take a growth mindset, see what you're capable of, and 1010 00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:10,710 Michelle Moore: believe in yourself, put some shoes on, run a mile. 1011 00:52:10,739 --> 00:52:12,419 Michelle Moore: Just start with a mile. You don't have to go 1012 00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:14,070 Michelle Moore: any further than that. It doesn't matter how long it 1013 00:52:14,070 --> 00:52:17,580 Michelle Moore: takes you at all. Just get out there and start moving. 1014 00:52:18,810 --> 00:52:23,219 Meb Keflezighi: Michelle, the mind is so powerful, but the body is 1015 00:52:23,219 --> 00:52:27,929 Meb Keflezighi: so fragile. I remember in 2007 at the trials in 1016 00:52:27,929 --> 00:52:30,690 Meb Keflezighi: New York City Marathon, I was just mentally, physically, and emotionally 1017 00:52:30,690 --> 00:52:34,500 Meb Keflezighi: defeated. But somehow, someway we have to move forward. But 1018 00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:38,339 Meb Keflezighi: what is that mental, 90% we said on competition is 1019 00:52:38,340 --> 00:52:42,030 Meb Keflezighi: mental. Would that be something that you can say, " Hey, 1020 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,429 Meb Keflezighi: you need to start running." But also for somebody that 1021 00:52:44,429 --> 00:52:46,439 Meb Keflezighi: is struggling, it's like have doubts in their heads and 1022 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,960 Meb Keflezighi: somebody says, " I was ready to take my life if 1023 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,600 Meb Keflezighi: it wasn't for something like a 5K marathon." People look as 1024 00:52:51,989 --> 00:52:55,379 Meb Keflezighi: sports, a metaphor, life, you get up, injuries, disappointment, have 1025 00:52:55,380 --> 00:52:58,560 Meb Keflezighi: life, but at the same time, what is that initial 1026 00:52:58,770 --> 00:53:01,679 Meb Keflezighi: goal? To come out and meet somebody. By meeting somebody that 1027 00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:05,669 Meb Keflezighi: morning can save life, or meeting camaraderie and things like 1028 00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:09,600 Meb Keflezighi: that. What would be your psychology advice on that? Besides 1029 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,610 Meb Keflezighi: meet somebody, what would you give as advice, because this 1030 00:53:11,610 --> 00:53:13,020 Meb Keflezighi: is mental awareness month? 1031 00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:15,929 Michelle Moore: Part of what I hear you describing is the ability to 1032 00:53:15,929 --> 00:53:18,840 Michelle Moore: be resilient, the ability to bounce back after a bad 1033 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,379 Michelle Moore: thing has happened. And I think sometimes we can do 1034 00:53:22,379 --> 00:53:24,930 Michelle Moore: that alone and we can do that for ourselves. Other times 1035 00:53:25,110 --> 00:53:27,660 Michelle Moore: really do need somebody else, and it doesn't always have 1036 00:53:27,660 --> 00:53:31,140 Michelle Moore: to be a professional. It can just be somebody that 1037 00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:33,690 Michelle Moore: you've come across. One of the most beautiful things I 1038 00:53:33,690 --> 00:53:35,820 Michelle Moore: have found in life too is that sometimes you never 1039 00:53:35,820 --> 00:53:38,429 Michelle Moore: know the people that you might need or the people that 1040 00:53:38,429 --> 00:53:41,669 Michelle Moore: you might meet. I tell a story in my book about 1041 00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:43,710 Michelle Moore: a few days after my mom died I went out 1042 00:53:43,710 --> 00:53:46,649 Michelle Moore: for a run and it was very slow, but I 1043 00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:49,410 Michelle Moore: got out there and just started moving. And there was 1044 00:53:49,410 --> 00:53:51,989 Michelle Moore: a guy standing on the lakefront and I ran past 1045 00:53:51,989 --> 00:53:54,150 Michelle Moore: the first time, I came back and I stopped and I said, " 1046 00:53:54,179 --> 00:53:57,780 Michelle Moore: Hi." And I don't know why, but I did. I 1047 00:53:57,780 --> 00:54:00,299 Michelle Moore: stopped and said hi to this guy and he said, " 1048 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,770 Michelle Moore: The water is so calm today. Yesterday the waves were 1049 00:54:04,770 --> 00:54:06,960 Michelle Moore: crashing and the waves were going." He goes, " But today 1050 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,739 Michelle Moore: it's so calm and peaceful." And I just sat with 1051 00:54:10,739 --> 00:54:12,809 Michelle Moore: that moment and it brought tears to my eyes, because 1052 00:54:12,809 --> 00:54:15,540 Michelle Moore: it was the story of grief. Yesterday was a terrible 1053 00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:18,058 Michelle Moore: day. My mother had died and I was in a terrible place 1054 00:54:18,059 --> 00:54:20,700 Michelle Moore: and today I was able to find this moment of 1055 00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:24,510 Michelle Moore: calm. And this was talking to a stranger. And I said, " 1056 00:54:24,510 --> 00:54:27,390 Michelle Moore: Thanks so much. Have a great day." And I continued running. 1057 00:54:27,809 --> 00:54:30,480 Michelle Moore: And I think when we can also, that mindfulness component, 1058 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,610 Michelle Moore: you guys just talked about this last week, right? When 1059 00:54:32,610 --> 00:54:35,669 Michelle Moore: we can be mindful and present in each moment that life 1060 00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:38,070 Michelle Moore: gives us to be able to see, this was a 1061 00:54:38,070 --> 00:54:41,010 Michelle Moore: stranger. He didn't know what I had gone through. I 1062 00:54:41,010 --> 00:54:43,259 Michelle Moore: don't know where he came from, but there was something 1063 00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:45,600 Michelle Moore: about that moment that I allowed that to sink in. 1064 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,049 Michelle Moore: And so I think when we can be present throughout 1065 00:54:49,049 --> 00:54:52,559 Michelle Moore: our lives, you're able to be more resilient when you're 1066 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:55,830 Michelle Moore: present and you're actually allowing yourself to be in your 1067 00:54:55,830 --> 00:54:59,310 Michelle Moore: emotions. If we try to avoid our emotions and we 1068 00:54:59,310 --> 00:55:02,968 Michelle Moore: try to distance ourselves and not feel, it actually makes 1069 00:55:02,969 --> 00:55:04,830 Michelle Moore: things a lot harder, and that can lead to more 1070 00:55:04,830 --> 00:55:07,799 Michelle Moore: mental health issues. But if you allow the emotions to 1071 00:55:07,799 --> 00:55:10,770 Michelle Moore: come up and to flow through you, I had many 1072 00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:13,980 Michelle Moore: runs where I just, tears just streaming out, and it 1073 00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:17,610 Michelle Moore: was such a cathartic experience. But letting the emotion come 1074 00:55:17,610 --> 00:55:20,099 Michelle Moore: out sometimes is so much more important than trying to 1075 00:55:20,099 --> 00:55:22,980 Michelle Moore: feel like, that's where the perseverance comes in, right? You 1076 00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:25,560 Michelle Moore: let these things go and you continue to move on, 1077 00:55:25,739 --> 00:55:28,709 Michelle Moore: versus trying to hold in and keep it all held 1078 00:55:28,709 --> 00:55:31,709 Michelle Moore: tight, which is just going to lead to more setbacks 1079 00:55:31,710 --> 00:55:34,799 Michelle Moore: and holding you still in place so you can't thrive. 1080 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, Michelle, I can't think of a better person to 1081 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: have on this month as we talk about mental health 1082 00:55:42,570 --> 00:55:45,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: awareness than someone who has been through what you've been 1083 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: through. And then more importantly, really found a way to 1084 00:55:48,780 --> 00:55:53,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: communicate beautifully to people what it takes to develop that 1085 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: resilience, that sustainable wellness. Again, the book is called Sustainable 1086 00:55:58,230 --> 00:56:02,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wellness: A Memoir of Loss, Perseverance and Resilience by Michelle 1087 00:56:02,429 --> 00:56:05,789 Rob Simmelkjaer: Moore. You can find it on Amazon, and it's really 1088 00:56:05,789 --> 00:56:08,819 Rob Simmelkjaer: a terrific thing, I think, to help walk us all 1089 00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:12,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: through that process of staying well in a sustainable way. 1090 00:56:13,170 --> 00:56:15,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: Michelle, thank you so much for being on the podcast. 1091 00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:17,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: Great to have you on. Thanks for sending me the 1092 00:56:17,219 --> 00:56:18,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: book, by the way. I really love it. 1093 00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:21,899 Michelle Moore: Yes, thanks so much. I love this community, so thank 1094 00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:22,768 Michelle Moore: you for offering this. 1095 00:56:23,219 --> 00:56:25,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: Now it's time for today's Med minutes. 1096 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,460 Meb Keflezighi: Summer is a great time to train, but the recovery 1097 00:56:29,460 --> 00:56:33,000 Meb Keflezighi: are very important as you get ready for just training, 1098 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,580 Meb Keflezighi: build out for the fall, or just training through the 1099 00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:39,869 Meb Keflezighi: summer, the recovery is very important. Don't stress out about, " 1100 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,780 Meb Keflezighi: I have to do this," mentality. The summer is supposed 1101 00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:46,410 Meb Keflezighi: to be a relaxation. You're supposed to go to the beach or 1102 00:56:46,469 --> 00:56:50,189 Meb Keflezighi: in areas or parks and build a great base, so that way you 1103 00:56:50,340 --> 00:56:53,819 Meb Keflezighi: can have a great fall for training. But at the 1104 00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:57,869 Meb Keflezighi: same time doing the drills and strength is important as 1105 00:56:57,870 --> 00:56:59,850 Meb Keflezighi: you do it at home or outdoor in the nice 1106 00:56:59,850 --> 00:57:04,080 Meb Keflezighi: weather. But the temperature can be brutal, depends where you 1107 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:09,210 Meb Keflezighi: are. So, it is very important to hydrate before, during, 1108 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,580 Meb Keflezighi: and after. You want to be able to take care 1109 00:57:11,580 --> 00:57:14,880 Meb Keflezighi: of your body so you can do consistent training over the summer, 1110 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,830 Meb Keflezighi: which are going to lead you to a greater fall 1111 00:57:17,010 --> 00:57:19,980 Meb Keflezighi: training and racing. So, have fun in the summer, but at 1112 00:57:19,980 --> 00:57:21,570 Meb Keflezighi: the same time, take care of yourself. 1113 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: And that does it for another episode of Set the 1114 00:57:24,210 --> 00:57:26,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace. Thank you to Amy and T. J., and also 1115 00:57:26,910 --> 00:57:29,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: to Michelle Moore. If you like this episode, please go ahead 1116 00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:32,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: and subscribe, rate or leave a comment for the show 1117 00:57:32,370 --> 00:57:35,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: on whatever platform you're listening on. This helps us, helps 1118 00:57:35,549 --> 00:57:38,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: the podcast, and helps others find the show as well. 1119 00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:40,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: We'll see you next week. Enjoy the miles.