WEBVTT - What NYRR Coach Ben Talks About When He Talks About Training 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  York  Road  Runners  is  a  non- profit  organization  with 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  vision  to  build  healthier  lives  and  stronger  communities  through 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  transformative  power  of  running.  The  support  of  members  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>donors  like  you  helps  us  achieve  our  mission  to  transform 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  health  and  well- being  of  our  communities  through  inclusive 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  accessible  running  experiences,  empowering  all  to  achieve  their  potential. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Learn  more  and  contribute  at  nyrr. org/ donate.

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<v Intro>Thank  you.  New  York.  Today  we're  reminded  of  the  power of community 

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<v Intro>and  the  power  of  coming  together.  Athletes,  on  your  mark.


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<v Intro>The  first  woman  to  finish  for  the  second  straight  year 

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<v Intro>here  in  the  New  York City Marathon  is  Mickey  Gorman.  A  smiling 

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<v Intro>Mickey  Gorman  and  why  not?  2: 29:30,  it's  the  time for  (inaudible)

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<v Intro>
 Look  at  the  emotion  of  Shalane  Flanagan  as  she 

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<v Intro>comes  to  the  line.
 Pointing  to  his  chest,  pointing  to 

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<v Intro>the  USA he  so  proudly  wears  across  his  chest.  A  great 

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<v Intro>day  for  Matt Kapusky.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Happy  New  Year  and  welcome  back  to  Set  the  Pace. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  another  year  of  the  official  podcast  of  New  York 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Road  Runners,  presented  by  a  Peloton.  I'm  your  host  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  CEO  of  New  York  Road  Runners,  Rob  Simmelkjaer  flying 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>solo  today  while  we  give  my  amazing  co- host,  Becs 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Gentry,  the  first  week  of  the  year  off.  And  full 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>disclosure,  this  episode  was  recorded  early  so  the  whole  team 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>could  enjoy  the  holiday  break.  So  hope  everybody  on  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>team's  enjoying  themselves  as  well.  Hope  you  guys  all  had 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>an  amazing  2024,  a  great  holiday  season  and  we're  excited 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  dive  into  2025  with  all of  you,  whether  you  ran 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  midnight  run  to  kick  in  the  new  year  or 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>have  some  other  races  on  your  schedule,  can't  wait  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>see  so  many  of  you  out  there  over  the  course 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  the  next  year.  As  this  episode  is  dropping  on 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>January  2nd,  today's  episode  is  all  about,  that's  right,  new 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Year's  resolutions,  goal  setting  and  opportunities  to  help  you  stick 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  those  goals.
 Whether  it's  to  start  walking  or  running 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>or  to  run  maybe  seven  marathons  in  seven  days  like 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Becs.  No,  don't  do  that.  Nobody  is  going  to  do 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  other  than Becs, so  just  kidding  on  that  one.  No,  but 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>whatever  your  goal  might  be,  we  want  to  talk  about 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>how  to  help  you  achieve  them  in  2025.  So  joining 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>me  today  is  New  York  Road  Runner's  head  coach,  coach 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Ben  Delaney.  For  those  who  have  not  had  a  chance 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  meet  or  train  with  Ben,  he's  responsible  for  managing 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>all of  our  runner  education  and  training  resources  that  thousands  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>runners  use  every  year  to  prepare  for  the  TCS  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  City  Marathon,  the  United  Airlines  NYC  half,  and  many 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>other  races  across  our  calendar,  and  in  fact  around  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>world.  I  personally  have  been  coached  by  Ben  and  his 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>team  throughout  the  last  couple of  years  through  group  training,  other 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>events,  and  there's  no  way  I  would've  been  able  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>set  that  PR  in  Berlin  this  past  September  without  Coach 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Ben  and  that  incredible  team.
 So  can't  wait  to  talk 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  Coach  Ben  about  everything  that  NYRR  does  and  really 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  myriad  of  programs  we  have,  including  by  the  way, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  pacing  program  that  you'll  often  see  at  some  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  big  races,  the  folks  holding  the  signs,  running  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>certain  pace  so  you  could  pace  yourself  to  a  goal 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>time.  Ben's  overseeing  that  as  well.  So  Ben  Delaney  will 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>be  with  us  in  just  a  little  while.  And  just 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>like  we  are  every  single  week,  we'll  be  joined  later 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  the  show  by  the  great  Meb Keflezighi bringing us  his  weekly  pro-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>tip,  which  this  week  is  of  course  all  about  running 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>resolutions.  And Meb  will  also  be  joined  by  the  NYRR  member 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  the  week  and  NYRR  Open  Run  participant,  Rose-Gaëlle  Belinga. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  stay  tuned  for  an  extra  New  Year's  motivation  from 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Meb.  But  before  we  get  into  today's  guest,  I  want 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  mention  that  next  week will  be  a  special  episode  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Set  the  Pace.
 We're  going  to  be  holding  a  special 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>NYRR  State  of  the  Union.  I'll  be  sharing  some  exciting 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>things  that  our  team  is  working  on  for  2025,  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we'll  take  a  look  back  at  an  amazing  year  for the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>running  community  in  2024.  And  also  part  of  this  episode, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we  want  to  hear  from  you.  That's  right. So if  you've  got 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>questions  for  me  or  for  anybody  at  New  York  Road 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Runners,  please,  we  want  you  to  send  them  our  way. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  can  email  us  at  NYRRpodcast@ NYRR. org,  that's  NYRRpodcast@ NYRR.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>org.  Leave  a  question  in  that  email  or  you  can 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>leave  one  in  the  review  section  of  the  Apple  Podcast 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>app  or  Spotify.  Or  you  can  DM NYRR on  our  social  media 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  well.  We  will  answer  all of  your  questions  next  week 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  this  special  town  hall  episode  of  Set  the  Pace.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  now  it's  on  to  today's  show  and  I'm 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>excited  for  this  next  interview.  Today  we  are  joined  by 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>someone  who  is  mostly  known  as  Coach  Ben  around  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  Road  Runners  offices  in  our  community.  Ben  Delaney,  he 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  New  York  Road  Runners'  Director  of  Training  Programs  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Operations,  and  a  big  part  of  a  lot  of  runners 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>lives  here  at  NYRR,  certainly  our  staff,  all of  our  group 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>training  runners,  our  Team  for  Kids  runners.  So  a  lot 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  you  out  there  know  Coach  Ben.  And  Ben,  it 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  really  great  to  have  you  on  Set  the  Pace. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  feel  like  this  is  overdue.  We  should  have  done 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>this  a  long  time  ago.

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<v Ben Delaney>I  am  so  excited  to  be  on  here.  Thank  you so much 

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<v Ben Delaney>for  having  me.  It  feels  great.  I  mean,  you  and 

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<v Ben Delaney>I  talk  all  the time and to be able to talk about all the  things  that we get to do and the impact and the  connection,  this  is  going 

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<v Ben Delaney>to  be  great.  Looking  forward  to  it.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Absolutely.  Ben,  I  guess  the  first  question  someone  might  ask 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is,  what  does  a  coach  at  New  York  Road  Runners 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>actually  do?  I  mean,  Road  Runners  is  obviously  a  big 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>organization.  We've  put  on  lots  of  races  including  the  marathon, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we  have  all  these  programs in  the  community  for  kids,  adults, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>all  that.  So  it  would  seem  that  there's  a  lot 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  could  potentially  do,  but  what  does  the  coach,  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>head  of  coaching  at  this  organization  actually  do?

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<v Ben Delaney>The  head  of  coaching,  my  responsibility  is  to  make  sure 

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<v Ben Delaney>that  our  programs  are  really  connecting  with the  running  community  that 

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<v Ben Delaney>we  have.  And  like  Rob  talked  about at  the  top,  I 

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<v Ben Delaney>work  with  group  training,  I  get  to  work  with  Team 

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<v Ben Delaney>for  Kids.  I'm  connecting  even  with  our  other  programs we  have, 

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<v Ben Delaney>Run  for  the  Future and Striders  as  all of  our  coaches  work  within 

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<v Ben Delaney>those.  So  to  be  able  to  do  that,  to  be 

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<v Ben Delaney>able  to  be  a  coach  in  that  space  and  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>have  a  say  and  a  process,  and  part  of  my 

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<v Ben Delaney>responsibility  is  ensuring  that  our  programs  are  connecting  and  have 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  proper  voices  and that  we're  out  there  talking  to  our 

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<v Ben Delaney>runners.
 And  one  thing  I  tell  our  coaches  is, " I 

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<v Ben Delaney>want  our  runners  to  see  us  as  much  as  we 

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<v Ben Delaney>see  them."  So  I  want  to  make  sure  that  we 

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<v Ben Delaney>have  that  connection  all  the  time.  And  then  to  be 

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<v Ben Delaney>able  to,  I  tell  people  I  get  to  see  runners, 

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<v Ben Delaney>I get to see  people  at  the  best  part  of  their  day.  Because 

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<v Ben Delaney>when  you  come  out  to  run,  I  think  you're  sick 

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<v Ben Delaney>in  your  head,  Rob  you  know  it,  you're  there  for 

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<v Ben Delaney>you.  You're  there  because  you  want  to  do  it.  And 

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<v Ben Delaney>to  have  that  opportunity  and  that  space,  I  never  take 

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<v Ben Delaney>it  for  granted.  I  remind  myself,  my  coaches,  I  say, "

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<v Ben Delaney>Hey,  we  get  to  do  this.  They're  here.  Let's  give 

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<v Ben Delaney>them  the  best  experience  that  we  can  when  they're  here."

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>For  people,  Ben,  who  maybe  run  the  marathon  or  run 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  races,  but  that's  all  they  do,  and  there's  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>lot  of  people  for  whom  that  applies,  they  may  not 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>really  have  any  sense  of  coaching  at  Road  Runners,  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>fact  that  we  have  coaches  and  that  we  have  all 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>these  programs,  so  maybe  we  could  just  run  through  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>few  of  them.  And  I'll  start  with  group  training,  which 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  my  personal  favorite.  As  you  know,  I've  been  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>regular  at  the,  especially  Thursday  morning  group  training  runs  in 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Central  Park,  but  I've  bounced  around  to  a  few  others. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  it  certainly  has  made  a  big  difference  in  my 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>running  life.  I  think  it's  made  me  a  lot  better. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>What  is  group  training  and  what  does  it  take  for 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>somebody to  get  involved?

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<v Ben Delaney>Yeah,  a  group  training  is  adult  training  for  anybody  who 

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<v Ben Delaney>wants  to  get  involved  with  running.  You  don't have to  even  be 

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<v Ben Delaney>wanting  to  race. If you  just  want  a  community  of  runners,  group 

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<v Ben Delaney>training  is  for  that.  We  offer  it  in  Central  Park, 

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<v Ben Delaney>as  Rob  said.  I've  got  Central  Park,  I've  got  Prospect 

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<v Ben Delaney>Park,  Uptown  Manhattan,  Historia  Park.  Seasonally,  we  have  East  River 

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<v Ben Delaney>Track,  I've  got  Engineers  Gate.  So  in  terms  of  where 

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<v Ben Delaney>we  are, what  we  offer,  you  can  get  out  there.  This 

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<v Ben Delaney>is  a  year  round  program,  so  you  don't  have  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>be  involved  in  one  part  and then we're  going  to  go  away 

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<v Ben Delaney>and  come  back.  This  runs  year  round.  Matter  of  fact, 

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<v Ben Delaney>our  January  session,  it's  open  right  now,  it  opened  up 

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<v Ben Delaney>by  just  earlier  last  week  I  believe.
 And  we  are 

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<v Ben Delaney>getting  our  (inaudible)   runners  ready  for  the  United  Airlines 

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<v Ben Delaney>NYC  Half  in  March.  1st  workout  to  the  week  of 

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<v Ben Delaney>January  6th.  So  if  anybody  out  there  listening  is  thinking, "

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<v Ben Delaney>Heck,  I  want  to  get  on  there.  I  got  the NYC 

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<v Ben Delaney>Half  on  my  calendar  right  now."  Or  just  New  Year, 

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<v Ben Delaney>new  you,  or  just  trying  to  get  that  routine.  I like 

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<v Ben Delaney>to  tell  people,  make  it  a  habit,  make  it  part 

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<v Ben Delaney>of  who  you  are,  bring  that  part  of  your  day 

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<v Ben Delaney>and  group  training  is a  great  way  to  step  into  that. 

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<v Ben Delaney>Our  coaches  are  there  to  facilitate  the  workouts  that  we 

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<v Ben Delaney>have.  So  Nick,  as  Rob  can  attest,  we  want  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>give  you  a  great  experience.  We  want  to  make  you 

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<v Ben Delaney>see  the  best  part  of  yourself,  but  we're  going  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>challenge  you.  The  coach  is  really  out  there.
 They're  going 

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<v Ben Delaney>to  talk  to  you  about  what  your  goals  are,  give 

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<v Ben Delaney>you  some  tips  on  how  to  best  approach  the  workout 

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<v Ben Delaney>based  off  of  where  you  are  in  your  process.  Because 

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<v Ben Delaney>running  is  going  to  meet  you  where  you  are.  Our 

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<v Ben Delaney>job  as  a  coach  is  to  ensure  that what  we're  doing 

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<v Ben Delaney>is  helping  you  get  to  where  you  want  to  be. 

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<v Ben Delaney>And  everyone's  goals  are  going  to  be  a  little  bit 

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<v Ben Delaney>different  out  there,  whether  you're  competitive  with  yourself,  the  person 

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<v Ben Delaney>next  to  you.  But  remember,  it  is  group  training. It's  not 

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<v Ben Delaney>racing.  So  when  you  show  up,  don't  worry  about  where 

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<v Ben Delaney>you  are,  how  long  you've  been  doing  it  for.  Just 

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<v Ben Delaney>put  on  your  shoes,  come  talk  to  us.  We'll  have 

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<v Ben Delaney>a  great  time  out  there and  you apply to make you  sweat  a  little  bit.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>And  Ben,  what  would  you  say  is  the  type  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>runner  who's  best  suited  to  do  group  training?  I've  been 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>there,  I'm  a  decent  runner.  There's  people  there  that  are 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>faster  than  me.  Obviously  there's  lots  of  folks  who  are 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>running  more  modest  paces.  Is  it  literally  any  pace,  any 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>goal,  anyone?

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<v Ben Delaney>It  really  is.  We  cover  the  gamut  because  we  know 

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<v Ben Delaney>that  running  is  for  everybody  out  there.  One  of  the 

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<v Ben Delaney>programs  we  have  in  our  evenings  in  Central  Park  currently 

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<v Ben Delaney>is  called  Fundamentals.  And  this  is  for  a  runner  who 

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<v Ben Delaney>would  be  new  or  maybe  is  looking  to  have  a 

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<v Ben Delaney>sustained  running  effort  for  30  minutes  or  a  little  bit 

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<v Ben Delaney>more.  But  really  group  training,  you  show  up,  we  have 

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<v Ben Delaney>coaches,  we  have  support  for  where  you're  going  to  be. 

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<v Ben Delaney>I  just  encourage  runners  when  they  show  up  on  day 

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<v Ben Delaney>one,  you'll  be  open  about  that.  Sometimes  it  can  be 

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<v Ben Delaney>a  challenge  to  have  that  conversation,  but  part  of  what 

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<v Ben Delaney>our  coaches  are  there,  we're  there  to  ensure  you  get 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  best  experience.  We want  to  make  sure  that  you're  getting 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  best  overall  output  of  what  you're  trying  to  get 

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<v Ben Delaney>to.  And  everyone's  going  to  be  a  little  bit  different. 

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<v Ben Delaney>And  one  of  the  philosophies  that  we  preach  at  New 

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<v Ben Delaney>York  Road Runners as our  philosophy  as  coaches  is  we  really  train  by 

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<v Ben Delaney>our  effort.
 On  a  scale  of  one  to  10,  how 

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<v Ben Delaney>hard  are  you  working  as  compared  to  like, " Hey,  we're 

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<v Ben Delaney>doing  this  workout  at  six  minute  pace,  seven  minute  pace, 

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<v Ben Delaney>eight  minute  pace."  We're  going  to  be  working  at  an 

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<v Ben Delaney>effort  level,  seven  or  eight.  Everyone's  effort  level  is  going 

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<v Ben Delaney>to  be  the  same,  and  we  judge  that  different  ways, 

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<v Ben Delaney>but  this  way  we  know  that  everyone's  working  at  a 

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<v Ben Delaney>consistent  space  that  we  can  help  you at. And  our  coaches  know 

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<v Ben Delaney>how  to  gauge  that  and  how  to  find  out  where 

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<v Ben Delaney>you  are.  As  Rob  will  tell,  can  you  talk  too 

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<v Ben Delaney>much?  Can  you  not  talk  at  all? How are  you  working  hard? 

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<v Ben Delaney>But  that's  really  what  we want to talk  to.  So  our  programs  are 

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<v Ben Delaney>designed  for  every  pace  out  there.  We  just  tell  runners to 

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<v Ben Delaney>make  sure  the  first  time  you  show  up,  talk  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>us  and  be  honest  so  we  can  make  sure  that 

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<v Ben Delaney>you're in the right space to get the right support within  our  community.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  I  think  for  somebody  who's  got a  New  Year's  resolution 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  get  more  fit,  I  can't  think  of  a  better 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>way  to  kickstart  that  than  group  training.  Even  in  January 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it's  going  to  be  chilly,  but  it's  going  to get  your 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>day  off  and  your  year  off  to  an  amazing  start 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  be  out  there  running in  the  early  morning  hours  or 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  the  afternoons.  There's  evening  sessions  as  well,  so  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>can  do  either  one  and  it's  awesome.  I  know  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Central  Park  sessions  tend  to  sell  out,  so  people  have 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  get  on  their  game  if  they're  going  to  sign 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  for  those.

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<v Ben Delaney>Yeah  again,  if you're thinking about it folks, get out there. If  for  any  reason  something  is  sold  out, 

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<v Ben Delaney>you  can  send  an  email  over  to  Training@ nyrr. org. 

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<v Ben Delaney>Myself,  my  colleague  Steve and  Gemma,  we  get  to  work  with Gemma and Steve 

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<v Ben Delaney>all  day  long.  We  take  care  of  a  lot  of 

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<v Ben Delaney>stuff.  Always  email  us  over.  We'll  always  do  our  best 

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<v Ben Delaney>to  get  everybody  in  there,  but  obviously  safety  is  a 

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<v Ben Delaney>key  to  what  we  want  to  do,  whether  it  be 

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<v Ben Delaney>our  trainings,  our  races,  whatever  we're  going  to  do.  That's 

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<v Ben Delaney>Road  Runner's  philosophy.  But  like  Rob  said,  we  got  mornings, 

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<v Ben Delaney>we  got  evenings,  different  locations  out  there  because we want  to  make 

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<v Ben Delaney>sure  we  give  as  much  offer  and  we're  looking  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>grow  and  get  into  as  many  spaces  as  we  can 

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<v Ben Delaney>because  group training's  a  popular  place  these  days.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  is.  It's  awesome.  And  with  good  reason,  you  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  whole  coaching  staff  does  such  a  great  job.  So 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>let's  talk  about  Team  for  Kids  for  a  second.  And 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  those  who  are  running  with  Team  for  Kids,  especially 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>those  who  run  multiple  races halfs  and  marathons,  they  know  that 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it's  so  much  more  than  just  the  bib.  It's  so 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>much  more  than  raising  money  to  get  into  these  races. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>There's  an  incredible  community  around  Team  for  Kids,  for  all of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>these  races  and  especially  for  marathon.  The  coaching  is  really a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>big  part  of  what  you  get  when  you  sign  up 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  run  in  support  of  Team  for  Kids,  which  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>course  is  a  funding  mechanism  that  helps  us  fund  all of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  youth  and  community  programs  all  year  long  at  New 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  Road  Runner.  So  you're  supporting  an  incredible  cause  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you're  getting  something  for  yourself  out of  it,  which  is  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>community  and  also  Ben,  the  coaching  that  you  and  your 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>staff  provide.

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<v Ben Delaney>Yeah,  I  mean,  I've  been  with  Team for Kids,  this is  to  finish 

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<v Ben Delaney>up  my  third year  with  that  group, and  it's  been  an  incredible 

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<v Ben Delaney>three  years  with  that  team.  That  community  is  so  strong. 

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<v Ben Delaney>A  lot  of  those  runners  come  back  year  after  year 

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<v Ben Delaney>after  year.  They  believe  so  much  in  the  mission  of 

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<v Ben Delaney>Team  for  Kids  and  New  York  Road  Runners,  and  seeing 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  money  that  they're  raising  going  to  something  that's  really 

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<v Ben Delaney>beneficial  because  this  is  what  we  do,  this  is  what 

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<v Ben Delaney>we  love.  And so  again,  when  I  talk  to  my  coaches say, "

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<v Ben Delaney>Hey,  these  people are  out  there  raising  money  year  in,  year 

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<v Ben Delaney>out,  they  want  to  get  what  they  got  to  do 

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<v Ben Delaney>for  us  as  coaches."
" We  want  to  give  them  the 

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<v Ben Delaney>best  experience.  How  can  we  get  them  ready  for  their 

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<v Ben Delaney>day?"  Because  ultimately  that  date  in  November,  but  then  again, 

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<v Ben Delaney>Team  for  Kids,  we  have  teams  for  all of  our  world 

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<v Ben Delaney>marathon  majors  out  there.  So  we  have  people  training  for 

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<v Ben Delaney>Tokyo  right  now,  people  looking  at  Boston  and  London  already. 

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<v Ben Delaney>They'll  be  getting  ready  for  Berlin  and  Chicago,  and  I 

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<v Ben Delaney>think  maybe  even  that  one  down  under,  I  don't  know 

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<v Ben Delaney>if anyone's  on  that,  maybe  that's  on  your  radar,  Rob.  We  don't know, but-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  is.  Sydney's  on  the  radar.  Absolutely.

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<v Ben Delaney>That's  a  heck  of  a  flight  for a  marathon  folks,  I'm 

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<v Ben Delaney>telling  you.  But  our  Team  for  Kid,  they  do  it 

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<v Ben Delaney>for  all  the  right  reasons  because  they  want  to  raise 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  money.  But  then  again,  they  do it  because  they  enjoy 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  sport,  they  enjoy  the  community.  And  so  again,  from 

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<v Ben Delaney>my  coaching  perspective,  when we  put  our  coach  hat  on,  I  say, "

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<v Ben Delaney>Meet  the  runners."  Because  that  community  is  so  big  that 

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<v Ben Delaney>a  lot  of  them  come  back.  I  say  when  we 

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<v Ben Delaney>have  someone  new,  someone  that  we  don't  recognize,  say  hi 

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<v Ben Delaney>to  that  runner.  We want to  make  sure  that  they're  a  part 

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<v Ben Delaney>of  our  community  as  much  as  anything  else.  And  so 

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<v Ben Delaney>you're  meeting  them,  you're  bringing  them  into  the  community,  you're 

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<v Ben Delaney>making  them  feel  this  great  space  because  we're  going  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>be  with  you  for  training  for  a  marathon  20  weeks.


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<v Ben Delaney>We  get  to  know  each  other  pretty  well.  We're  out 

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<v Ben Delaney>there  twice  a  week,  Wednesdays  and  Saturdays  with  this  group. 

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<v Ben Delaney>So  our  coaches  get  to  know  you.  We  get  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>know  intimately  what  you're  trying  to  go  for.  Whether  this is 

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<v Ben Delaney>your  first  marathon,  your  10th,  your  last. We don't know where it  may  be  on 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  spectrum  of  what  you're  trying  to  work  through.  Hopefully it's not 

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<v Ben Delaney>your  last,  but  we  make  sure  that  we talk  to  you 

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<v Ben Delaney>through  that.  And  give  you  some  pointers  because  Team  for 

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<v Ben Delaney>Kids  gives  you  so  many  perks  on  race  day  that 

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<v Ben Delaney>we  want  to  make  sure  that  you're  utilizing  all  of 

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<v Ben Delaney>those  things  that  are  going  to  make  your  race  day 

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<v Ben Delaney>as  enjoyable  as  you  can.
 Because  once  that  cannon  goes 

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<v Ben Delaney>off  in  Staten  Island,  you  got  to  cover  the  26.2 

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<v Ben Delaney>to  get  the  tavern  on  the green and the  finish  line.  But  along 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  way,  we  have  Team  for  Kids  coaches  on  course 

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<v Ben Delaney>for  miles.  Usually  from mile  13  right  before  the  Pulaski  Bridge 

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<v Ben Delaney>until  mile  25.  We  have  you  waiting  for  you  on 

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<v Ben Delaney>Central  Park  South  at  59th  Street,  every  mile where our  TFK  coach 

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<v Ben Delaney>is  going  to  be  out  there  on  race  day.  So 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  people  you  work  with,  you  practice  with,  we're  with 

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<v Ben Delaney>every  day  during  the  season  you  see  them  on  race 

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<v Ben Delaney>day.  And  that  could  be  what  you  need  on  First 

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<v Ben Delaney>Avenue,  what  you  need  in  the  Bronx,  what  you  need 

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<v Ben Delaney>on  Fifth  Avenue  as  you  make  your  way  into  the 

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<v Ben Delaney>park,  wherever  that  is  to  give  that  little  boost.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  it's  really  special,  Ben.  It's  hard.  A  lot  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>things  right  now,  road  hard  to  get  in  to  TFK. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It's  so  popular,  you're  right,  so  many  people  come  back 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year  after  year  after  year  to  be a  part  of  it. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  you  got  to  get  out  there  early.  What's  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>best  way  for  someone  who  wants  to  be  a  part 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  Team  for  Kids  to  sign  up?

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<v Ben Delaney>Teamforkids.org,  or  send  an  email to Tfk@ NYRR. org.  Get  involved  with 

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<v Ben Delaney>them  because  like  Rob  said,  these  teams  fill  up  quick, 

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<v Ben Delaney>especially  our  marathon  teams  and  anyone  out  there  chasing  the 

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<v Ben Delaney>six  stars.  I  know  people  out there  are  trying  to  get 

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<v Ben Delaney>those.  And  some  of  those  bands,  everyone  puts  in  their 

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<v Ben Delaney>name  for  the  drawings  for  London,  for  Berlin,  and  I 

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<v Ben Delaney>try,  but you got to 600, 000  people  going  for some of these  races,  it's  going  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>be  hard  to  get  into.  But  really  reach  out,  be 

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<v Ben Delaney>part  of  the  community  out  there,  show  the  interests  you 

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<v Ben Delaney>have  and  understand  that  sometimes  you  are  one  of  a 

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<v Ben Delaney>lot  of  people  that  are reaching  out,  but  the team, at  Team  for 

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<v Ben Delaney>Kids,  the  in- house  team,  they  did  an  amazing  job 

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<v Ben Delaney>connecting  with  everybody.
 They'll  get  back  with  you.  Just  know 

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<v Ben Delaney>that  I  think  our  Marathon  team  for  next  year's  New 

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<v Ben Delaney>York  City  Marathon  is  already  at  capacity  or  pretty  darn 

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<v Ben Delaney>close  to  it.  And  then  once  you're in  there,  you  may 

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<v Ben Delaney>have  to  do  the  Brooklyn  half,  you  may  have  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>do  some  other  races  and we've  got  Queen's  for  Team  for 

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<v Ben Delaney>Kids. Our  coaches are  out  there  at  the  Frosty  five  kids, as  we 

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<v Ben Delaney>can  get  in  some  people  ready  for  that.  So  the 

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<v Ben Delaney>team's  always  out  there,  send  emails  over,  reach  out,  talk 

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<v Ben Delaney>to us, we'll do the  best  we  can.  Because  again,  running  really  has  exploded, 

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<v Ben Delaney>I  think is the best way  to  boom...  The  boom  is  back  for  running, 

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<v Ben Delaney>for  sure.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>No  doubt.  No  doubt.  No  doubt.  Ben,  for  people  who 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>can't  get  to  group  training  or  can't  get  into  a 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Team  for  Kids  program,  there's  other  options  out  there  that 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we  offer  as  well.  We've  got  a  new  virtual  coaching 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>platform  that  we  partnered  with  this  year,  Runna.  It  was 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  first  year  of  that.  I,  as  you  may  know, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Ben  used  Runna  in  part,  in  training  for  the  Berlin 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Marathon  and  had  a  good  experience.  Although  I've  joked  around, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Runna  thinks  I  am  very,  very  fast  because  some  of 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  tempo  runs  that  Runna  gave  me  during  that  run-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  were  just  grueling.  I  just  couldn't  do  them. I mean,  the 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>speed  ones  I  was  okay  with,  but  the  tempo  runs 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>were  just  too  much  for  me  and  I  modified, I did the best I could.  I 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>hit  the  distance,  but  maybe  not  always  the  time,  but 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>can  you  talk  a  bit  about Runna know,  obviously  it's  not  something 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we're  fully  running.  We've  got  a  great  partner  that  has 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>built  this  platform,  but  our  coaching  staff  is  involved.  We've 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>got  an  online  community  on  Facebook  where  we're  talking  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>our  runners  who  are  using  the  platform  as  well.

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<v Ben Delaney>Yeah, NYRR by Runna is  amazing.  Personally,  I've  been  using  it  for  a  year. 

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<v Ben Delaney>When  we  first  got  connection  that  we  were  going  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>be  moving  to  this  platform  about  a  year  ago,  Steve 

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<v Ben Delaney>Mura,  Coach  Steve  out  there  and  myself  and  as  well 

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<v Ben Delaney>as  Coach Gemma-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>With  the  handlebar  mustache,  Steve  Mura.  You  can't  miss  him 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>if  you've  ever  seen  him.  Absolutely.

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<v Ben Delaney>He actually, he  cut  it  too  short.  He  didn't  have it for  a  while, 

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<v Ben Delaney>but in it's  back  folks,  don't  worry.  There  were  some  feelings  about 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  handlebar  mustache  growing,  but  Steve  has  brought  it  back. 

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<v Ben Delaney>If  you  look  at  Steve,  Gemma  and  myself,  we  have 

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<v Ben Delaney>very  distinctive  looks  about  us  on  who  we  are.  Gemma, 

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<v Ben Delaney>with  the  accent  being  from  New  Zealand,  Steve  and  I 

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<v Ben Delaney>with  our  own  personality,  I  tell  you,  love  working  with 

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<v Ben Delaney>them.  We  have  a  great  time. NYRR by Runna.  Yes,  Rob,  those  workouts 

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<v Ben Delaney>are  hard  and  I  tell  people  it's  by  design.  They 

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<v Ben Delaney>want  you  to  get  uncomfortable  because  I  think  as  you 

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<v Ben Delaney>saw  at  the  end  of  Berlin,  it  wasn't  very  comfortable. 

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<v Ben Delaney>And  so-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  got  that  right.  You've  seen  the  video,  huh?  You've 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>seen  what  I  looked  like  or  the  splits.  You  could 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>see  how  uncomfortable  I  got  the  last  couple  of  miles. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yes,  that's  a  fact.

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<v Ben Delaney>But  that's  what  training  is,  is  getting  you  used  to 

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<v Ben Delaney>those  uncomfortable  spaces  and  NYRR  by  Runna  does  that. I mean  it 

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<v Ben Delaney>really,  I've  used  it  for  a  while.  I  used  it 

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<v Ben Delaney>for  Boston  this  past  year  and  yeah,  I  questioned  my 

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<v Ben Delaney>life  twice  a  few  times  out  there on some of  those  long  runs. 

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<v Ben Delaney>I  mean,  they  give  you  progression  long  runs  to  really 

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<v Ben Delaney>test  you,  but  they  really  want  to  get  you  ready 

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<v Ben Delaney>for  that. And I think  that's  key.  Coach  Steve  manages  our  Facebook  group. 

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<v Ben Delaney>It's  an  amazing  Facebook  group.  He  has  a  weekly  thing 

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<v Ben Delaney>I  think  on  Monday  it's  called  Ask  Coach  Steve  anything. 

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<v Ben Delaney>And  it's  incredible  the  kind  of  stuff  he  gets.  And 

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<v Ben Delaney>on  Fridays  he  goes, " Hey,  where's  your  long  run?"  So 

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<v Ben Delaney>he  does  a  lot  of  great  things  within  that  space 

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<v Ben Delaney>to  ensure we  have  the  community  out  there.
 But  Dom  and 

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<v Ben Delaney>Ben  and  the  crew  at Runna  really  have  created  a  platform 

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<v Ben Delaney>that's  evolving  every  day.  They  have  a  lot  of  good 

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<v Ben Delaney>stuff  out  there.  I  know  that  currently,  our NYC  half  program 

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<v Ben Delaney>is  open  for  anybody  out  there.  We  have  our  RBC, 

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<v Ben Delaney>Brooklyn  half  as  the  20- week  plan  is  open.  And 

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<v Ben Delaney>then  coming  up  in  February  we  do  have  the  drawing 

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<v Ben Delaney>for the  TCS  Nursery  Marathon.  We'll  be  launching  our  plans  then 

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<v Ben Delaney>as  well.  Even  though  training  will  start  really  until  June, 

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<v Ben Delaney>you  can  get  started  and  get in  the  habit,  get  in 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  Runna  plan,  get  going,  get  yourself  ready  to  go 

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<v Ben Delaney>because  a  marathon's  not  easy,  but  we  do  hard  things 

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<v Ben Delaney>and we  get  to  that  finish  line  every  way  we  can.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>That's  what  we're  trying  to  do.  Absolutely.  And NYRR by  Runna,  it 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>definitely  helps.  One  of  the  other  things  that  people  may 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>not  know  is  part  of  the  job  of  Ben  Delaney, 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Head  of  Coaching  at  New  York  Road  Runners,  is  our 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>pacing  program.  The  races  that  we  have,  all of  our  half-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>marathons  or  longer,  we  have  a  pacing  group.  And  I'm 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>forever  fascinated  by  the  job  of  the  pacer.  These  folks 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  we  send  them  out  in  these  blue  and  white 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>jerseys,  they  look  like...  What  do  you  call  those?

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<v Ben Delaney>The  hoops,  our  hoops  because they're blue and white and they  go  circular  round  our  hoops.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  yeah,  they  look  like  Waldo  but  with  blue  and 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>not  red.  And  they  carry  the  little  stick  with  their 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>pace  on  it.  And  I'm  always  amazed  at  how  effective 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>these  runners  are,  overwhelmingly  successful  in  running  the  pace  to 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>which  they've  been  assigned.  Can  you  talk  a  bit  about 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>what  it  takes  to  be  a  pacer?  How  does  somebody 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>get  to  get  that  job  basically,  and  how  hard  it 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  to  execute  that?  Because  they're  like  human  metronomes  basically. 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>They're  out  there  really  running  and  I  can  tell  you 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that they've  really  helped  me in  some  races.  I  mean,  my  last 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>marathon  in  New  York  in  2013,  I  found  that  330 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>pacer,  and  I  stuck  to  them  until  mile  23  or 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>so  and  felt  good  enough  to  run  ahead  of  them 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>at  one  point.  But  it  really  made  a  huge  difference 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  me. And  I  know  so  many  runners  out  there  going 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  those  corrals,  looking  for  those  pace  signs.

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<v Ben Delaney>Yeah,  I  mean  the  NYRR  Pace  team  is  incredible.  Coach 

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<v Ben Delaney>Steve,  Steve  Mura,  he  has,  that  is  his  baby.  He 

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<v Ben Delaney>has  taken  that  from  infancy.  He  was  given  it  when 

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<v Ben Delaney>he  started  here  at  Road  Runners  10  years  ago,  and 

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<v Ben Delaney>he  has  grown  it.  I  think  this  year  at the TCS  New 

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<v Ben Delaney>York City  Marathon,  we  had  90- plus  Pacers  out  there,  pretty 

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<v Ben Delaney>much  almost  every  corral  from  had  a  pacer.  And  these 

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<v Ben Delaney>pacers  go  from  three  hours  to  six  hours. If you  have  a 

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<v Ben Delaney>pacer,  they're  going  to  pace  you  to  a  sub- three. 

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<v Ben Delaney>Because  again,  what  their  sign  says,  they're  aiming  for  30 

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<v Ben Delaney>seconds  underneath  that  regardless  of  the  race  that  we're  at. 

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<v Ben Delaney>So  all of  you  sub- three  marathoners  out  there,  we've  got, 

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<v Ben Delaney>it's  Anthony  Chan  and  Justin  Woody  and  man,  these  guys 

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<v Ben Delaney>go  250, 930  and  it's  like,  as  Rob  said, it's  a  metronome. 

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<v Ben Delaney>These  guys  are  incredible.  But we have  people that  do  six  hours,  Jackie 

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<v Ben Delaney>Choi,  Steph  Rezeska. I mean, they're  out  there  and  they  are  money.  They 

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<v Ben Delaney>get  runners  through.
 As  I  tell  them,  they  are  like 

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<v Ben Delaney>your  guiding  light,  hook  your  wagon  to  them  and  they 

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<v Ben Delaney>will  get  you  to  where  you  have  to  be  because 

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<v Ben Delaney>they  do  an  amazing  job.  But  they  are  human  also. 

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<v Ben Delaney>So  everyone's  not  going  to  have  a  perfect  day.  But 

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<v Ben Delaney>I  think  efficiency  rate,  they  over  92%  with  all  the 

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<v Ben Delaney>races  that  we  offer.  I  mean,  Bronx 10,  all of  our  training 

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<v Ben Delaney>runs.  Yeah,  there's  NYC  Half,  you  name  it,  Staten  Island, 

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<v Ben Delaney>the  marathon.  I  mean  the  Marathon  team  is  incredible.  Everybody 

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<v Ben Delaney>wants  to  be  a  part  of  the  marathon  team.  It's 

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<v Ben Delaney>a  very  select  crew  that  Steve  really  curates  well.  We 

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<v Ben Delaney>have a lot of  connections  and reachouts to  people  who  want  to  be  a  pacer 

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<v Ben Delaney>with  New  York  Road  Runners.  Steve's  actually  partnered  with  a 

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<v Ben Delaney>pacing  company  called  Elevate.  We're  actually  sending  pacers  through  this, 

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<v Ben Delaney>basically  a  class.  They  do  a  four- week  class  where 

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<v Ben Delaney>they  have  assignments  to  do  and  they've  got  to  clock 

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<v Ben Delaney>their  splits  and  they  get  checked.
 Because  again,  Steve  will 

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<v Ben Delaney>tell  you,  the  people  that  pace  our  races,  specifically  the 

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<v Ben Delaney>TCS New York City  Marathon,  are  the  best  pacers  in  the  world.  No 

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<v Ben Delaney>offense  to  Berlin,  Sydney  or  anybody  else  out  there.  Steve 

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<v Ben Delaney>has  paced  London.  He  paced  London  last  year to  four  hours 

0:24:28.590 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Ben Delaney>and  nailed  it.  But  really,  because  putting  your  whole  training 

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.850
<v Ben Delaney>cycle  and  your  whole  faith  and  hope  in  this  person 

0:24:35.850 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Ben Delaney>to  guide  you.  And  so  we  take  that  very  seriously. 

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.580
<v Ben Delaney>The  pacers,  they  are  very  serious.  They  want  to  have 

0:24:41.580 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Ben Delaney>as  much  success  as  you  do,  and  they  want  to 

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.740
<v Ben Delaney>make  sure  that  you have  the  best  day  possible  out  there. 

0:24:46.740 --> 0:24:49.050
<v Ben Delaney>So  as  Rob  said,  we're  there  to  guide  you  to 

0:24:49.170 --> 0:24:50.669
<v Ben Delaney>a  certain  point.  And  then  if  you  have  your  day, 

0:24:50.850 --> 0:24:53.909
<v Ben Delaney>go.  I've  had  the  benefit  of  pacing  a  few  races 

0:24:53.970 --> 0:24:57.149
<v Ben Delaney>last  year.  I  paced  the  marathon  this  past  year. I got to mile  23 

0:24:57.150 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Ben Delaney>before.  Unfortunately  my  day  did  not  go  very  well,  but 

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:02.010
<v Ben Delaney>hey, you know what?  I  did  the  best  I  could  for  what  I 

0:25:02.010 --> 0:25:06.570
<v Ben Delaney>did.  My  co- pacer,  he  nailed  it,  4:19: 27.  We're 

0:25:06.570 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Ben Delaney>trying  to  go  for  420.

0:25:07.859 --> 0:25:10.950
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>So  the  runners  were  not  left  alone.  Exactly.  You've  got 

0:25:10.950 --> 0:25:11.641
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  backup,  which  is good-

0:25:11.641 --> 0:25:11.642
<v Ben Delaney>Always.

0:25:11.642 --> 0:25:14.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>...  in  case  somebody  does  have  a  bad  day.  Which 

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.340
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it's  a  marathon  that's  going  to  happen,  absolutely.  How  much 

0:25:17.340 --> 0:25:21.990
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>faster  does  a  pacer  have  to  have  run  a  marathon 

0:25:21.990 --> 0:25:24.030
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>on  their  own,  than  the  pace  time?  You're  not  going 

0:25:24.030 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  give  someone  who's  only  run  a  345,  I  guess, 

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.889
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  run  as  their  pace  time.  What's  the  margin  we  use?

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:36.060
<v Ben Delaney>Usually  somewhere  in  that  15 to 30  minute  range,  obviously  depending  on 

0:25:36.060 --> 0:25:38.460
<v Ben Delaney>the  pace  itself.  Because  one  thing  that  we  talked  to 

0:25:38.460 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Ben Delaney>some  paces  about,  and  I've  learned,  and  you  see  this 

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.300
<v Ben Delaney>is  like,  yeah,  maybe  I  can  be  out  there  for 

0:25:42.300 --> 0:25:43.859
<v Ben Delaney>two  and  a  half  hours,  but  that's  a  lot  for 

0:25:43.859 --> 0:25:47.010
<v Ben Delaney>a  half- marathon  or  five  hours  for a full, that's  a  lot  longer 

0:25:47.010 --> 0:25:48.810
<v Ben Delaney>than  I'm  used  to  being  on  my  feet.  And  that's 

0:25:48.810 --> 0:25:51.990
<v Ben Delaney>the  difference  because  as  everyone  learns,  when  you  train  for a 

0:25:52.230 --> 0:25:54.270
<v Ben Delaney>marathon,  you're  training  for  time  on  your  feet,  your  body 

0:25:54.270 --> 0:25:55.650
<v Ben Delaney>to  get  used  to  what  you  want  to  do  on 

0:25:55.650 --> 0:25:58.530
<v Ben Delaney>pace  day.
 So  while  somebody  who's  quick  can  maybe  be 

0:25:58.530 --> 0:26:00.659
<v Ben Delaney>out  there,  their  body's  not  going  to  be  used  to 

0:26:00.660 --> 0:26:03.390
<v Ben Delaney>that.  So if  we  really  stick  to  that 15 to  30  minutes,  sometimes 

0:26:03.390 --> 0:26:05.340
<v Ben Delaney>it  can  be  around  10  at  the  quicker  range,  but 

0:26:06.388 --> 0:26:08.340
<v Ben Delaney>we  want  to  make  sure the  pacer's  are  well  within  a 

0:26:08.340 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Ben Delaney>space  where  it's  comfortable  for  them.  It's  not  outside  of 

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:15.660
<v Ben Delaney>their  wheelhouse.  And like I said,  it  speaks  to  their  efficiency,  90  plus 

0:26:15.660 --> 0:26:18.780
<v Ben Delaney>percent  efficiency.  In  some  races,  they're a  100%.  I  think  for 

0:26:18.780 --> 0:26:20.460
<v Ben Delaney>the  Brooklyn  half  this  year,  they  were  a  100%.

0:26:21.510 --> 0:26:21.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Amazing.

0:26:21.930 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Ben Delaney>Which  is incredible.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.500
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  it's  really,  really  cool.  It's  a  great,  great  program 

0:26:25.500 --> 0:26:28.290
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  we  offer  for  our  runners  in  our  races.  Then 

0:26:28.290 --> 0:26:30.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  think  a  lot  of  people  don't  realize  how  many 

0:26:30.570 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>coaches  we  actually  have  at  New  York  Road  Runners.  And 

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.869
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we've  talked  about  some  of  the  programs,  but  it  takes 

0:26:36.869 --> 0:26:38.970
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>a  lot  of  folks.  We  got,  of  course,  a  lot 

0:26:38.970 --> 0:26:41.790
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  part- time  coaches.  I  think  most  of  them  are  part-

0:26:41.790 --> 0:26:45.930
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>time.  Really  it's  only  yourself,  Gemma  and  Steve  who  are on 

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  full- time  staff.  How  many  coaches  do  we  have 

0:26:49.619 --> 0:26:51.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  what  does  it  take  for  somebody  who's  maybe  listening 

0:26:51.570 --> 0:26:54.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out  there  who  thinks  they  might  like  to  join  in 

0:26:54.450 --> 0:26:56.790
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>as  a  coach  for  group  training  or  something  like  that?

0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.100
<v Ben Delaney>I  mean,  I  think  the  last  time  I  checked  just 

0:26:59.100 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Ben Delaney>between  group  training  and  teaching  for  kids,  we  were  around 

0:27:01.830 --> 0:27:06.510
<v Ben Delaney>95  coaches  on  staff.  A  lot  of  those  same  coaches 

0:27:06.750 --> 0:27:08.909
<v Ben Delaney>work  with  Run  for  the  Future  as  well.  Run for  the 

0:27:08.910 --> 0:27:12.150
<v Ben Delaney>Future,  which  is  our  junior  and  senior  high  school  young 

0:27:12.150 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Ben Delaney>women,  who  are  coming  into a  great  program  run  during  the 

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.380
<v Ben Delaney>summer  time.  They  use  about  five  or  six  coaches  throughout 

0:27:16.380 --> 0:27:18.209
<v Ben Delaney>the  program  that  they  have,  it's  not  a  lot.  We 

0:27:18.210 --> 0:27:21.119
<v Ben Delaney>have  some  crossover.  We  have  our  Striders  program  as  well. 

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.389
<v Ben Delaney>They  probably  have  about  15 or  so  instructors  out  there  and 

0:27:24.390 --> 0:27:25.980
<v Ben Delaney>coaches.  That's  a  different...  We  have  a  couple  that  cross 

0:27:25.980 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Ben Delaney>over,  but  a  lot  of  them  are  more  specialized.  They'll 

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.540
<v Ben Delaney>listen  me  to  that  program.  Marcy  Simon  does  a  great 

0:27:30.540 --> 0:27:34.260
<v Ben Delaney>job  with  some  movement- based  stuff.  We  have a lot of  coaches  out 

0:27:34.260 --> 0:27:36.149
<v Ben Delaney>there,  but  again,  safety  is  the  key  for  us.  And 

0:27:36.150 --> 0:27:38.490
<v Ben Delaney>also  making  sure  we  have  connections  out  there.  But  if 

0:27:38.490 --> 0:27:41.850
<v Ben Delaney>anybody  wants  to  be  a  coach  out  there,  there's  RRCA, 

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:46.740
<v Ben Delaney>there's  VDOT,  Lydia,  there's  a lot of  different  coaching  philosophies  out  there, 

0:27:46.740 --> 0:27:50.550
<v Ben Delaney>USATF  as  well.
 But  if  we  have  an  application  up 

0:27:50.550 --> 0:27:52.830
<v Ben Delaney>online  open  all  the  time,  I  keep  it  open  because 

0:27:53.609 --> 0:27:55.530
<v Ben Delaney>I'm  always  curious  to  see  who's  out  there,  who  wants 

0:27:55.530 --> 0:27:58.889
<v Ben Delaney>to  become  a  coach.  Whenever  my  needs  may  be.  And 

0:27:58.890 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Ben Delaney>again,  I  tell  my  coaches,  I  want  our  runners  to 

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.060
<v Ben Delaney>see  us  and  I  want  us  to  see  them.  I 

0:28:03.060 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Ben Delaney>like  varied  voices.  I  like  varied  experiences.  I  like  varied 

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.050
<v Ben Delaney>paces.  I  like  varied  people.  That  way  when  you  stand 

0:28:10.050 --> 0:28:13.379
<v Ben Delaney>in  front  of  a  group,  they're  not  just  looking  at 

0:28:13.380 --> 0:28:15.210
<v Ben Delaney>a  bunch  of  people  with  a  whistle  and  a  stopwatch. 

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Ben Delaney>They're  looking  at  everybody  and  every  person  in  every  place. 

0:28:18.690 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Ben Delaney>And  again,  regardless  of  what  that  coach's  skill  level  place 

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.270
<v Ben Delaney>in  their  world,  where  they  may  be,  they  can  talk 

0:28:24.270 --> 0:28:26.550
<v Ben Delaney>to  anybody.  It  just tells  our  runners  should  feel  comfortable  and 

0:28:26.550 --> 0:28:30.570
<v Ben Delaney>confident,  approach  them  and  ask  them  questions  because  it's  important. 

0:28:30.570 --> 0:28:33.540
<v Ben Delaney>But  anybody  wants  to  be  a  coach,  throw  him  in 

0:28:33.540 --> 0:28:35.129
<v Ben Delaney>the  hat,  talk  to  me.  You  never  know  what  could 

0:28:35.130 --> 0:28:37.050
<v Ben Delaney>happen.  The  answer  may  be  no  today,  but  maybe  in 

0:28:37.050 --> 0:28:40.530
<v Ben Delaney>six  months  it's  a  yes.  But  always  keep  the  conversation  open.

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.650
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Yeah,  we  need  a  lot.  Absolutely.  So  it's  definitely  an 

0:28:43.650 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>opportunity  for  somebody  who  loves  to  coach,  loves  people.  I 

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>think  that's  the  key and can  get  out  there  and  work  with 

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.690
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>people  to  make  them  better  runners  and  more  fulfilled,  which 

0:28:54.690 --> 0:28:57.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>is  what  it  comes  down  to.  Ben,  I  know  that 

0:28:57.450 --> 0:29:00.390
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you,  like  me,  are  a  dad.  I  know  this  because 

0:29:00.390 --> 0:29:03.180
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we've  talked  about  it,  but  I  really  know  because  you 

0:29:03.180 --> 0:29:05.310
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  I  co- starred  in  the  New  Yorker  Road  Runner 

0:29:05.310 --> 0:29:10.170
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Father's  Day  video  last  year  where  we're  basically  making  fun 

0:29:10.170 --> 0:29:13.110
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  ourselves  as  running  dads,  which  was  very  cute  by 

0:29:13.110 --> 0:29:15.900
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  way.  But running's  a  family  affair  for  you.  I  know 

0:29:17.010 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>not  only  your  kids,  your  wife,  you  guys  have  run 

0:29:19.410 --> 0:29:22.710
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>races  together.  Can  you  talk  about  how  you  even  came 

0:29:22.710 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  running  yourself,  Ben?

0:29:25.020 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Ben Delaney>I  was  always  athletic  my  whole  life.  I  played  team 

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.420
<v Ben Delaney>sports,  soccer,  basketball,  ice  hockey,  roller  hockey,  beach  volleyball.  I 

0:29:30.810 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Ben Delaney>did  something  I  couldn't  sit  still.  A  buddy  of  mine, 

0:29:34.890 --> 0:29:38.190
<v Ben Delaney>he  was  261  pounds.  I  remember  that because 26.2  is  the  miles. 

0:29:38.190 --> 0:29:41.790
<v Ben Delaney>He  was  261  and he's hard  to  walk,  and  he  was  doing 

0:29:41.790 --> 0:29:44.550
<v Ben Delaney>all  this  stuff  and  my  son  was  about  three  years 

0:29:44.550 --> 0:29:47.610
<v Ben Delaney>old  at  the  time and  I  was  doing  adult  sports  and 

0:29:47.610 --> 0:29:49.890
<v Ben Delaney>it  wasn't  fun  anymore.  So  he  said, " Hey,  try  this 

0:29:49.890 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Ben Delaney>running  thing,  man.  You  may  like it." So I went in  my  local  running  store, 

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Ben Delaney>like  I  tell  everyone  to  do,  got  fitted  for  a 

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.780
<v Ben Delaney>pair  of  shoes,  found  a  couple  people  that  I  liked 

0:29:57.780 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Ben Delaney>to  run  with  and  off  I  went.  And  that  was 

0:30:00.780 --> 0:30:04.710
<v Ben Delaney>almost  18  years  ago  or  so.  Ran  my  first  marathon 

0:30:04.710 --> 0:30:06.780
<v Ben Delaney>within  a  year  of  starting  to  run,  which  is  the 

0:30:06.780 --> 0:30:09.180
<v Ben Delaney>biggest  mistake  of  my  life  because I  wasn't  ready  for a  marathon 

0:30:09.180 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Ben Delaney>within  12 months of  my  running  journey.
 Again,  the  marathon  is  this 

0:30:14.490 --> 0:30:17.970
<v Ben Delaney>carrot,  this  idea,  the Caltra  5K  is  so  last  year.  But 

0:30:19.530 --> 0:30:22.170
<v Ben Delaney>I  came  into  running  and  what  I  really  have  come 

0:30:22.170 --> 0:30:24.750
<v Ben Delaney>to love about it, and I  tell  people  is  that  you  can  literally  do  it 

0:30:24.750 --> 0:30:27.690
<v Ben Delaney>from  anywhere.  I  mean,  if  I  travel  somewhere,  if  I'm 

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.209
<v Ben Delaney>seeing  friends,  I  can  take  my  shoes  and  walk  out 

0:30:30.210 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Ben Delaney>the  front  door  and  I  can  find  a  route  on 

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.740
<v Ben Delaney>Strava  or  run  with  them  if  they're  local  and I  can 

0:30:34.740 --> 0:30:38.100
<v Ben Delaney>get  miles  in  and I  can  meet  new  people,  or  see 

0:30:38.100 --> 0:30:40.410
<v Ben Delaney>new  sites.  I  was  working  with  someone  this  past  summer 

0:30:40.410 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Ben Delaney>and  they  were  traveling  over  in  Europe  and  I  was 

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.250
<v Ben Delaney>envious  of  all  the  routes  they  were  running  and  they 

0:30:44.250 --> 0:30:46.620
<v Ben Delaney>loved  it.  Sometimes  when  you're  doing  a  training  cycle, a  new 

0:30:46.620 --> 0:30:48.630
<v Ben Delaney>place  to  run  can  be  just  enough  to  break  up 

0:30:48.630 --> 0:30:52.530
<v Ben Delaney>the  monotony  enough.  But  yeah,  my  running  journey  started  very 

0:30:52.530 --> 0:30:57.239
<v Ben Delaney>simply,  very  straight  forward  and  fast- forward  to  where  we 

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Ben Delaney>are  today.  And  it's-

0:30:58.980 --> 0:31:02.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Turned into  your  career.  Exactly.  I  mean,  it's  probably  not  something 

0:31:02.190 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  envisioned  when  you  first  started  running  that  you'd  end 

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>up  working  in  the  industry.

0:31:07.020 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Ben Delaney>I  did  not,  but  I'm  blessed to be able to do it. And like you alluded  to  earlier,  Rob,  being 

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.490
<v Ben Delaney>able  to  have  moved  to  New  York.  The  Run  As 

0:31:14.490 --> 0:31:16.350
<v Ben Delaney>One  was  the  race  I  did  with  my  son  when 

0:31:16.350 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Ben Delaney>we  first  started  to  move  here.  I  think  the  first 

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.140
<v Ben Delaney>time  he  did  it, actually it  was  before  it  was  rising,  it 

0:31:22.140 --> 0:31:24.420
<v Ben Delaney>was  still  the  Mighty  Milers.  He  did  the  Washington  Heights 

0:31:24.420 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Ben Delaney>Mile,  that's  where  we  live.  We  live  uptown.  He  did 

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.310
<v Ben Delaney>that.  I  think  the  year  after  that,  we  did  the 

0:31:29.310 --> 0:31:31.050
<v Ben Delaney>Run  As  One  together.  He did  a  four- mile  race.  So 

0:31:31.050 --> 0:31:34.110
<v Ben Delaney>we  did  that  every  year  until  the  pandemic.  And  then 

0:31:34.110 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Ben Delaney>he  did  it. He  just  went  to  college  a  couple  years 

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:41.220
<v Ben Delaney>ago.  And  so  the  last  two  years,  my  wife,  myself 

0:31:41.220 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Ben Delaney>and  my  son,  we  all  ran  that  race  as  a 

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:44.490
<v Ben Delaney>family.  The  Run  As  One  is  the one  that  we  do. 

0:31:45.180 --> 0:31:46.770
<v Ben Delaney>Now  my  wife  and  I  do  it  together  and  that's 

0:31:47.430 --> 0:31:49.470
<v Ben Delaney>our  family  race  and  I  look  forward  to  it  every 

0:31:49.470 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Ben Delaney>year.  A,  it's  in  April  and  it's  finally  getting  warm. 

0:31:51.930 --> 0:31:54.690
<v Ben Delaney>But  B,  it's  a  beautiful  day  out  there and it's  a  great  cause.

0:31:55.110 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  love  it.  I  love  it.  Well,  this  is  a 

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.190
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>New  Year's  podcast.  We're  right  around  that  turning  of  the 

0:32:02.190 --> 0:32:04.140
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year  for  folks  out  there.  A  lot  of  people  are 

0:32:04.140 --> 0:32:08.670
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thinking  about  those  New  Year's  resolutions,  those  running  resolutions  that 

0:32:08.670 --> 0:32:11.100
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>they  might  have.  So  I  guess  I'll  ask  you,  Ben, 

0:32:11.370 --> 0:32:14.610
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  got  any  goals,  anything  you  want  to  accomplish  in 

0:32:14.610 --> 0:32:16.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>2025  from  a  running  point  of  view?

0:32:17.820 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Ben Delaney>I  always  tell  people  if  I  keep  myself  healthy,  I 

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.430
<v Ben Delaney>turn  50  this  year,  2024.  So  to  be  able  to 

0:32:23.430 --> 0:32:26.070
<v Ben Delaney>continue to be able  to  do  what  I  do  every  day,  I  will 

0:32:26.070 --> 0:32:27.630
<v Ben Delaney>never  take  that  for  granted.  Every day  I  get  to  put 

0:32:27.630 --> 0:32:29.190
<v Ben Delaney>on  my  shoes,  I  will  take  it  as  a  blessing. 

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.340
<v Ben Delaney>As  a  director  of  a  training  program,  and I think  Steve  and 

0:32:35.340 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Ben Delaney>Gemma  will  allude  to  this,  it's  hard  for  us to get out  and 

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.180
<v Ben Delaney>get  our  own  miles  in,  but  I'm  always  looking  to 

0:32:39.180 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Ben Delaney>challenge  myself.  Whether  it  be  at the  10K  distance,  I  wear 

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Ben Delaney>my  tech  orbit  shirt.  This  is  one of  my  favorite  races 

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Ben Delaney>that  we  do.
It's the  one  race  I  try  to  race,  but 

0:32:46.350 --> 0:32:47.610
<v Ben Delaney>if  I  had  to  put  one  on  the  radar,  it's 

0:32:47.610 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Ben Delaney>always  the  Washington  Heights  5K.  I  love  the  Washington  Heights 

0:32:50.580 --> 0:32:52.170
<v Ben Delaney>5K.  I  live  uptown,  so  I  run  that  course  on 

0:32:52.170 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Ben Delaney>the  regular.  It's  always  a  good  test.  I  love  to 

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.260
<v Ben Delaney>train in  the  wintertime,  so  you'll  always  find  me  putting  myself 

0:32:58.260 --> 0:33:01.890
<v Ben Delaney>out  there for  that  race  for  sure.  But  it's  never  easy. 

0:33:01.890 --> 0:33:03.959
<v Ben Delaney>But  maybe  I'll  turn  the  tables  on  you,  Rob.  You 

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.990
<v Ben Delaney>got  any  size  set  or  anything  out there? Are you keeping that  one  close  to 

0:33:06.990 --> 0:33:07.500
<v Ben Delaney>the  vest?

0:33:08.130 --> 0:33:14.459
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Well,  first  of  all,  I  had  such  a  gratifying  2024. 

0:33:15.390 --> 0:33:18.375
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>It  was  such  an  amazing  running  year  for  me,  and 

0:33:18.375 --> 0:33:22.020
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>year  in  general  to  be  honest.  And  I'm  so  thrilled 

0:33:22.020 --> 0:33:25.770
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>that  I  was  able  to  run  a  marathon  at  all. 

0:33:26.430 --> 0:33:29.070
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  know  what  you  mean  about  turning  50. I'm  a  couple 

0:33:29.070 --> 0:33:31.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>years  north  of  that  and  I  was  able  to  pull 

0:33:31.590 --> 0:33:35.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>off  a  run  in  Berlin  and  set  a  PR  by 

0:33:35.130 --> 0:33:37.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  little  skinny  minute  there.  But  I'll  take  any  PR 

0:33:37.590 --> 0:33:40.860
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>at  53  years  old  from  11  years  ago  the  last 

0:33:40.860 --> 0:33:42.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>time  I  ran  a  marathon.  So  it  was  a  great, 

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:47.370
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>great  year  for  me.  I  think  that  what's  interesting  for 

0:33:47.370 --> 0:33:49.650
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>me,  Ben,  is  I  do  go  to  a  lot  of 

0:33:49.650 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>these  Abbott  World  Marathon  majors  races.  I'm  going  there  to 

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:58.860
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>support  our  partners,  all  the  other  majors,  we  tend  to 

0:33:59.010 --> 0:34:02.910
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>attend  each  other's  races.
 And  what  I  learned  in  my 

0:34:02.910 --> 0:34:05.459
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>first  year  or  so  on  this  job  is  that  I 

0:34:05.460 --> 0:34:07.980
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>don't  really  like  going  to  races  that  I'm  not  running 

0:34:07.980 --> 0:34:11.850
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>it.  I  don't  really  love  just  watching  the  people  run. 

0:34:11.850 --> 0:34:14.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  mean,  in  New  York,  of  course  that's  what  I 

0:34:14.130 --> 0:34:16.380
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>have  to  do  because  I'm  so  busy.  We  have  so 

0:34:16.380 --> 0:34:20.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>many  responsibilities,  but  if  I'm  at  somebody  else's  race,  I 

0:34:20.130 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>don't  really  have  that  much  to  do,  and  I'm  like, "

0:34:22.770 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Why  am  I  standing  here  watching  this  race?"  So  that's 

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>why  I  ran  Berlin.  And  I  do  go  typically  to 

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:36.270
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  international  major  a  year.  And  so  this  year  the 

0:34:36.270 --> 0:34:39.420
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>one  I'm  attending  and  I'm  very  excited,  is  Tokyo.  I 

0:34:39.420 --> 0:34:42.718
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>will  be  going  to  Tokyo  the  first  weekend  in  March. 

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I'm  very  excited.
 I've  never  been  to  Japan.  And  so 

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.030
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I'm  going  to  go  to  Tokyo  and  I'm  going  to 

0:34:48.030 --> 0:34:50.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>put  in  some  extra  miles  over  the  next  month  or 

0:34:50.430 --> 0:34:52.650
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>so  and  see  how  the  body  feels.  I  ran  the 

0:34:52.650 --> 0:34:57.210
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Ted  Corbitt  15K.  Came  out of  that  feeling  pretty  good.  So 

0:34:58.050 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>we'll  see  how  the  body  holds  up  over  the  next 

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:04.020
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>month  or  so,  and  see  if  maybe  I  can  try 

0:35:04.020 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  pull  that  off. But  I  take  nothing  for  granted,  Ben, 

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:13.140
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>because  the  knees  and  the  body,  they'll  tell  you  what 

0:35:13.140 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you're  going  to  do  and  what  you're  not  going  to do. 

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>You  can  suggest,  but  they'll  have  the  final  answer,  the 

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>body  will.  And  so  that's  the  humility  with  which  I'm 

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:23.130
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>trying  to  approach  these  things.

0:35:24.570 --> 0:35:26.610
<v Ben Delaney>Yeah,  it's  true  because  we  all  have  our  goals  and 

0:35:26.610 --> 0:35:28.950
<v Ben Delaney>our  aspirations  and  sometimes  wake  up one day  and  go, " Wow,  that 

0:35:28.950 --> 0:35:31.710
<v Ben Delaney>didn't  hurt  yesterday.  Where  did  that  come  from?" And  you  realize 

0:35:31.710 --> 0:35:33.989
<v Ben Delaney>you're  not  32  anymore  and  you're  like, " Ah,  this  is 

0:35:33.989 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Ben Delaney>what  we  do."  But  hey,  you  get  to put in  your  shoes 

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:37.469
<v Ben Delaney>though,  so  it's  always  a  good  day.

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:42.420
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>A  100%.  And  the  thing  about  even  having  a  coach, 

0:35:42.690 --> 0:35:46.980
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  a  lot  of  runners  probably  is  not  the  first 

0:35:46.980 --> 0:35:50.250
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>thing  they  think  of.  Other  than  running  in  cross  country 

0:35:50.250 --> 0:35:52.950
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  high  school,  I  ran  my  whole  life  without  really 

0:35:52.950 --> 0:35:54.870
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>having  a  coach.  I'd  just  go  and  I'd  run.  And 

0:35:54.870 --> 0:35:57.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>if  I  was  getting  really  serious  about  it,  I'd  have 

0:35:57.810 --> 0:36:02.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>some  electronics,  devices,  whatever  to  try  to  push  me  a 

0:36:02.430 --> 0:36:05.940
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>little  bit.  But  having  actual  coaching  and  advice  is  new 

0:36:05.940 --> 0:36:08.460
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  a  lot  of runners.  So  what  do  you  think  for 

0:36:08.460 --> 0:36:12.180
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>somebody  who's  got  those  resolutions,  whether  it's  to  pick  up 

0:36:12.180 --> 0:36:15.870
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  sport  of  running,  to  get  fit  or  to  improve 

0:36:16.140 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>their  performance  or  maybe  set  a  PR  or  run  their 

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.810
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>first  marathon,  whatever  it  might  be,  what's  the  benefit  of 

0:36:21.810 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>having  a  coach,  whether  it's  a  shared  coach  as  you 

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:28.710
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>have  in the  group  training  setting  or  a  digital  coach  like 

0:36:29.100 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>NYRR  by  Runna,  or  a  personal  coach,  which  some  people  have?

0:36:34.980 --> 0:36:39.330
<v Ben Delaney>Yeah,  I  mean,  really  the coach is going to help  you  with  a  roadmap,  give 

0:36:39.330 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Ben Delaney>you  somewhere  to  start,  a  place  to  work  through  it 

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.770
<v Ben Delaney>and  hopefully  an  end  point.  Obviously  the  race  we  can't 

0:36:43.770 --> 0:36:45.420
<v Ben Delaney>control,  but  to  get  you  to the  start  line  in  one 

0:36:45.420 --> 0:36:48.810
<v Ben Delaney>piece.  They  also,  we  are  therapists  to  a  certain  extent. 

0:36:48.810 --> 0:36:50.370
<v Ben Delaney>We're  trying  to  help  you  out to  get  every,  because  some 

0:36:50.370 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Ben Delaney>days  you  don't  want  to  do  it.  Or to  your  point 

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.270
<v Ben Delaney>earlier,  the  workouts  are  hard  and  you  can  do  hard 

0:36:54.270 --> 0:36:56.310
<v Ben Delaney>things,  but  you  have  to  be  willing  to  talk  people 

0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Ben Delaney>through  that.  But  you're  really  helping  and  then  you're  giving 

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.510
<v Ben Delaney>them  advice.  And the  advice  really  comes  from  the  experience  as 

0:37:03.510 --> 0:37:06.270
<v Ben Delaney>a  coach.  We've  all  been  there  to  a  certain  extent.


0:37:08.610 --> 0:37:11.009
<v Ben Delaney>The great  thing  with  group  training and with TFK and  even  Run  for  the  Future is that 

0:37:11.100 --> 0:37:13.260
<v Ben Delaney>our  coaches  are  with  you  during  the  workout.  So  we're 

0:37:13.260 --> 0:37:15.210
<v Ben Delaney>right  there  with  you.  We're  not  standing  on  the  sideline 

0:37:15.540 --> 0:37:17.610
<v Ben Delaney>as  you  go  by  one  time  yelling  at  you. We are  actually 

0:37:17.610 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Ben Delaney>in  the  space  with  you  so  that  we  can  talk 

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.050
<v Ben Delaney>to you in  that  moment,  give  you  some  pointers,  help  you  out 

0:37:22.650 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Ben Delaney>before  and  after.  Our  coaches  are  available  to  talk  about 

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.630
<v Ben Delaney>strategy,  to  talk  about  where your  training  is.  If  you're  having 

0:37:27.630 --> 0:37:30.390
<v Ben Delaney>some  issues,  maybe  some  guidance  on  where  to  look  for 

0:37:30.390 --> 0:37:32.489
<v Ben Delaney>answers.  If  our  coaches  are  not  qualified  to  give  the 

0:37:32.489 --> 0:37:34.890
<v Ben Delaney>information,  a  lot  of  our  runners  ask, " Hey,  this  hurts. 

0:37:34.890 --> 0:37:38.069
<v Ben Delaney>That  hurts.  What  about  this  nutrition?"  And we are  not  nutritionists,  we're 

0:37:38.070 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Ben Delaney>not  PTs,  we're  not  doctors.  So  we  give  you  advice 

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Ben Delaney>on  where  to  go.  It's a  great  resource,  then  that's  what 

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:45.630
<v Ben Delaney>a  coach  can  be  as  a  resource  where  they  be 

0:37:45.630 --> 0:37:47.790
<v Ben Delaney>within  the  training  plan  or  to  find  things  that  you 

0:37:47.790 --> 0:37:51.750
<v Ben Delaney>need.
 But  really  it's  to  guide  you  along  to  talk 

0:37:51.750 --> 0:37:53.489
<v Ben Delaney>about  what  your  goals  are.  And  I  tell  runners, " You've 

0:37:53.489 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Ben Delaney>got  to  be  honest  about  where  you  are  when  you 

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Ben Delaney>start."  If  I  ask  you  what  is  your  comfortable  running 

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.819
<v Ben Delaney>pace,  you  tell  me  nine  minutes  and  go  out and run  for 

0:37:59.820 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Ben Delaney>a  nine- minute  pace  and  you  can't  talk  to  me, 

0:38:01.410 --> 0:38:04.469
<v Ben Delaney>that's  not  a  comfortable  pace.  So  be  honest  with  your 

0:38:04.469 --> 0:38:06.989
<v Ben Delaney>coach  and  where  you  are  in  your  ability  levels,  and 

0:38:06.989 --> 0:38:09.330
<v Ben Delaney>always  go  from  there.  If  the  coach  will  pick  up  on, "

0:38:09.330 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Ben Delaney>Hey,  you're  not  working  hard  enough  or  you're  working  too 

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Ben Delaney>hard,"  Because  ultimately  we  understand  the  physiological  process  the  body 

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Ben Delaney>has  to  go  through  for  the  games  to  happen  and 

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:19.950
<v Ben Delaney>we  want  to  make  sure  that  we  put  you  in 

0:38:19.950 --> 0:38:21.900
<v Ben Delaney>the  right  spot.  And that's really what  we're  trying  to do is  get  you  in 

0:38:21.900 --> 0:38:25.710
<v Ben Delaney>the  right  space  to  build  your  training  because  training  is 

0:38:25.710 --> 0:38:28.500
<v Ben Delaney>all  about  stress  and  recovery,  and  we  want  to  make 

0:38:28.500 --> 0:38:30.330
<v Ben Delaney>sure  that  as  you  put  stresses  on  your  body,  you 

0:38:30.330 --> 0:38:32.820
<v Ben Delaney>have  ample  time  to  recover  for  the  next  workout,  for 

0:38:32.820 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Ben Delaney>the  next  week,  for  race  day.
 So  it's  trying  to 

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.280
<v Ben Delaney>balance  that  load,  that  intensity,  that  when  we  as  a 

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Ben Delaney>coach  can  do  that,  that's  really  where  we're  giving  you 

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.070
<v Ben Delaney>the  best  chance  for  success  on  race  day.  Because if you  get 

0:38:44.070 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Ben Delaney>to  the  start  line  too  tired,  injured,  not  mentally  ready, 

0:38:48.090 --> 0:38:50.610
<v Ben Delaney>then  you  haven't  put  yourself  in  a  position  of  success. 

0:38:50.610 --> 0:38:53.130
<v Ben Delaney>And  that's what  I  preach  to  my  coaches, " Get  them in  a 

0:38:53.130 --> 0:38:55.710
<v Ben Delaney>position  of  success."  I  mean,  it's  better  to  be  a 

0:38:55.710 --> 0:38:58.500
<v Ben Delaney>little  bit  under  trained  than  anything  over  trained.  If  it 

0:38:58.500 --> 0:39:01.290
<v Ben Delaney>means  taking  a  day  off,  take  the  day  off.  Get 

0:39:01.290 --> 0:39:03.930
<v Ben Delaney>yourself  ready  because I think  you  saw  any  race,  I'm  sure  Ted 

0:39:03.930 --> 0:39:06.690
<v Ben Delaney>Corbitt  or  any  race,  showing  up  feeling  that,  hey,  I 

0:39:06.690 --> 0:39:09.330
<v Ben Delaney>may  have a day today or I feel  at  least  I  have  a  chance,  is  better 

0:39:09.330 --> 0:39:12.149
<v Ben Delaney>than  showing  up  like, " Dude,  why  am  I  here?  Why 

0:39:12.150 --> 0:39:13.350
<v Ben Delaney>am  I  doing  this?  I  don't  even  want  to do this today."

0:39:13.890 --> 0:39:16.380
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>A  100%.  Yeah,  the  mental  side  is  so  big.  And 

0:39:16.380 --> 0:39:20.219
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>you  mentioned  the  coach  as  therapist  and  I  tell  you 

0:39:20.219 --> 0:39:26.069
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>what,  that's  so  true.  I  can  think  back  to  the 

0:39:26.070 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>moments  I  had  leading  up  to  Berlin  this  past  September, 

0:39:29.489 --> 0:39:32.819
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  you  might  remember,  I  got  quite  sick  early  in 

0:39:32.820 --> 0:39:35.550
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>September.  I  got  this  walking  pneumonia  that's  going  around.  I 

0:39:35.550 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>was  knocked  out  for  a  week and  I  was  really  worried 

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  wasn't  going  to  be  able  to  run  Berlin  at 

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.390
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>all.  And  I  came  out  for  group  training  just  as 

0:39:42.390 --> 0:39:44.940
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  had  started  to  get  over  that.  And I  remember  I 

0:39:44.940 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>ran  with  Coach  Alem,  who  a  lot  of folks will know is  a  fixture 

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:54.180
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>at  our  races,  a  former  elite  runner  himself.  And  Alem and 

0:39:54.180 --> 0:39:56.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  were  running  up  and  down  the  west  side  in 

0:39:56.430 --> 0:40:00.060
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Central  Park.  And  Ben,  I  could  not  get  a  word 

0:40:00.060 --> 0:40:04.980
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>out.
 I  was  absolutely  dying,  gasping  for  air  on  this 

0:40:04.980 --> 0:40:08.700
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>run.  And  Berlin  was  less  than  two  weeks  away.  And 

0:40:08.700 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  was  like, " Oh  my  God,  what  am  I  going 

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:14.700
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to  do?"  And  I  remember  finishing  that  and  I  remember 

0:40:14.700 --> 0:40:19.290
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>just  telling  Alem,  I  was  like, " I  just  felt  awful. 

0:40:19.290 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  don't  know  what  I'm  going  to  do."  And  just 

0:40:22.469 --> 0:40:26.850
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>almost  spilling  my  guts.  I was like, "This is  just  not  good."  And  Alem 

0:40:27.210 --> 0:40:30.630
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>reassured  me,  he  said, " Listen,  the  fitness  is  there.  It'll 

0:40:30.630 --> 0:40:33.450
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>come  back.  You're  just  getting  over  a  little  thing."  And 

0:40:33.450 --> 0:40:36.510
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  ran  the  Bronx,  the  New  Balance  Bronx  10  Mile 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>or  a  few  days  later  had  much,  much  better.  Had 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>an  amazing  day  with  Coach  Roberto,  of  course,  who  was  well-

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>known  and  had  your  job  essentially  at  one  point,  was 

0:40:47.489 --> 0:40:50.969
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>in  a  role  similar  to  yours.  And  that  really  reset 

0:40:50.969 --> 0:40:54.180
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>my  confidence.  I  probably  ran  a  little  too  well  in 

0:40:54.180 --> 0:40:56.010
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Bronx  to  be  honest.
 I  set  my  PR  by 

0:40:56.010 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>five  minutes  in  the  Bronx.  I  blew  that  thing  away, 

0:41:00.030 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>probably  left  a  little  too  much  on  the  table  there, 

0:41:02.940 --> 0:41:06.839
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>but  still  had  enough  left  in  Berlin.  So  the  psychological 

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.980
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>side  is  so  important,  just  to  have  someone  to  talk 

0:41:11.940 --> 0:41:14.700
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>to,  to  get  some  feedback  from  it  makes  a  really, 

0:41:14.700 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>really  big  difference.  Coach  Ben,  you  do  a  great  job. 

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Your  team  does  a  great  job.  You're  a  huge  part 

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.910
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  New  York  Road  Runners  and will  be  a  huge  part 

0:41:23.910 --> 0:41:27.390
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>of  the  lives  of  many,  many  runners  in  2025.  So 

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.690
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>I  encourage  everybody  out  there  to  check  out  group  training, 

0:41:30.750 --> 0:41:36.510
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Team  for  Kids,  NYRR  by  Runna,  all  the  things.  Our 

0:41:36.510 --> 0:41:39.090
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>coaches  are  there  to  make  you  better  and  have  a 

0:41:39.090 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>great,  great  running  experience  throughout  the  year  and  beyond.  So 

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Coach  Ben,  thank  you.  Appreciate  having  you  on.

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<v Ben Delaney>I  couldn't  believe  it.  This  has  been  amazing.  Rob,  thank 

0:41:46.110 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Ben Delaney>you  so  much.  Always  a  pleasure  to  chat,  talk  running. 

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Ben Delaney>Hopefully  see  everybody  in  2025.  It's  going  to  be  an 

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<v Ben Delaney>incredible  year.  Come  out,  have  fun.  We're  waiting  for  you 

0:41:53.940 --> 0:41:55.290
<v Ben Delaney>and  we'll  have  a  great  time.

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<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Rose-Gaëlle  Belinga  is  a  software  engineer  originally  from  Cameroon.  During 

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  week,  Rose- Gaëlle  tackles  complex  technological  challenges,  but  on 

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.590
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  weekends  she's  an  open  run  volunteer  captain  at  Inwood 

0:42:43.590 --> 0:42:47.460
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Hill  Park  in  Manhattan  where  she  fosters  community  through  running 

0:42:47.460 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  encourages  participation  among  diverse  groups.  A  dedicated  NYRR  volunteer 

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:56.700
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>and  runner,  Rose- Gaëlle  has  run  54  races  with  New 

0:42:56.700 --> 0:42:59.550
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>York  Road  Runners,  including  seven  marathons.

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<v Meb Keflezighi>Thanks,  Rob  Rose,  Gael,  welcome  to  the  Set the  Pace  podcast. 

0:43:03.450 --> 0:43:04.259
<v Meb Keflezighi>How  are  you  doing  today?

0:43:04.770 --> 0:43:05.701
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>Doing  well.  Thank  you for having me.

0:43:05.700 --> 0:43:09.299
<v Meb Keflezighi>Great to  have  you.  You  grew  up  in  Cameroon  by  your 

0:43:09.300 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Meb Keflezighi>father's  experience  studying  the  influences  in  the  US,  your  decision 

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:17.550
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  pursue  education  abroad.  How  did  your  upbringing  in  Cameroon 

0:43:17.550 --> 0:43:19.860
<v Meb Keflezighi>shape  your  desire  to  study  as  software  engineering?

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:26.130
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>Oh,  both  my  parents  definitely  inspired  me.  My  dad  having 

0:43:26.130 --> 0:43:30.180
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>received  a  scholarship  to  come  pursue  his  MBA  at  NYU, 

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:34.290
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>he  had  already  completed  civil  engineering  in  Cameroon.  And  I 

0:43:34.290 --> 0:43:36.930
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>don't  think  anyone  else  in the  family  had  ever  traveled  to 

0:43:36.930 --> 0:43:40.468
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>the  US,  so  it  was  quite  mind- expanding.  When  he 

0:43:40.469 --> 0:43:44.430
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>came  back,  he  had  already  met  my  mom  before  he 

0:43:44.430 --> 0:43:46.530
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>came  back.  So  when  he  came  back,  he  got  married, 

0:43:46.530 --> 0:43:50.250
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>had  us.  He  kept  telling  us  about  this  place  where 

0:43:50.250 --> 0:43:55.469
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>people  from  a  different  background,  different  ethnicity,  religion,  political  affiliations, 

0:43:55.739 --> 0:44:05.550
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>could  all  work  together. And that was very different compared to what was happening in Cameroon at the time.  And  my  mom  was  also  first 

0:44:05.550 --> 0:44:08.910
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>generation  in  her  family  to  go  to  high  school.
 And 

0:44:08.910 --> 0:44:11.370
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>just  like  my  dad,  she  went  beyond,  she  went  to 

0:44:11.370 --> 0:44:14.430
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>college  and  grad  school  as  well,  which  was  quite  unusual 

0:44:14.430 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>for  a  woman  at  the  time.  So  they  both  encouraged 

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:22.650
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>us  to  focus  on,  apply  our  studies.  They  believe  that 

0:44:22.950 --> 0:44:26.580
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>education  is  the  best  way  to  build  a  bright  future. 

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>It  will  help  with  social  economy  disparity.  The  idea  was 

0:44:33.570 --> 0:44:36.030
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>for  us  to  go  pursue  our  studies,  not  necessarily  in the 

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:39.330
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>US.  But  if  we  were  blessed  enough  to  get  a 

0:44:39.330 --> 0:44:43.020
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>scholarship  to  also  come  to  the  US,  my  dad  recommended 

0:44:43.020 --> 0:44:44.850
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>not  going  to  New  York  because  he  did  not  like 

0:44:44.850 --> 0:44:49.110
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>the  winter.  So  we  ended  up  going  to  Atlanta  instead 

0:44:49.620 --> 0:44:53.610
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>because  we  heard  that  during  the  1996  Olympic  Games,  we 

0:44:53.610 --> 0:44:56.251
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>heard  that  it  doesn't  snow  in  Atlanta.  So  that's  where my siblings and I started our studies.

0:44:56.250 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Meb Keflezighi>Awesome. How was  your  experience  when  you  first  came  to  the  US 

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Meb Keflezighi>though  in  Atlanta?  Tell  us,  you  spoke  English  beforehand  and 

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:11.610
<v Meb Keflezighi>how  was  that  experience,  your  transition  living  and  study  in 

0:45:11.610 --> 0:45:11.671
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  United States?

0:45:11.671 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>It is a very good question. It  is  quite  surprising  how  different  English  can  be.  Cameroon 

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.879
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>is  a  bilingual  country,  similar  to  Canada  it's  the  second 

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.750
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>largest  English- French- speaking  country  in  the  world.  However,  the 

0:45:24.780 --> 0:45:27.989
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>English  we  speak  is  closer  to  British  English.  So  when 

0:45:27.989 --> 0:45:31.739
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>I  moved  to  the  US,  people  spoke  very  fast.  I 

0:45:31.739 --> 0:45:35.700
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>had  a  hard  time  understanding  what  people  were  saying.  So 

0:45:35.700 --> 0:45:40.530
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>I  ended  up  enrolling  into  an  intensive  English  program,  also 

0:45:40.530 --> 0:45:44.370
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>known  as  English  as  a  second  language,  ESL.  And  that 

0:45:44.370 --> 0:45:47.940
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>helped  a  lot.  It  didn't  just  help  with  the  language, 

0:45:47.940 --> 0:45:50.700
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>it  also  helped  with  the  culture.  There were  a  lot  of 

0:45:50.700 --> 0:45:54.750
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>concept  I  wasn't  familiar  with.  For  example,  we  learned  about 

0:45:54.780 --> 0:45:58.650
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>the  civil  rights  movement,  which  was  very  different  compared  to 

0:45:58.650 --> 0:46:04.380
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>this  historical  lessons  we've  had  in  Cameroon.  In  terms  of 

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>sciences,  I  feel  that  the  curriculum  was  a  bit  more 

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:11.850
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>advanced  in  Cameroon  because  we  went  all  the  way  to 

0:46:11.850 --> 0:46:14.910
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>Calculus  II  in  high  school.  So  on  the  STEM  side 

0:46:14.910 --> 0:46:18.509
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>I  was  okay,  but  everything  else,  I  felt  like  a 

0:46:18.509 --> 0:46:26.100
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>newbie.  I  felt  like  a  sponge  just absorbing everything. So it  was  challenging,  but I would say I 

0:46:26.310 --> 0:46:29.430
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>had  a  really  good  support  network.

0:46:30.570 --> 0:46:32.940
<v Meb Keflezighi>I  can  relate  Rose- Gaëlle.  When  I  first  came  here 

0:46:32.940 --> 0:46:34.890
<v Meb Keflezighi>to  the  United  States,  I  was  also  in  English  as 

0:46:34.890 --> 0:46:38.460
<v Meb Keflezighi>a  second  language,  ESL. And  yes,  the  math  can  be  done 

0:46:38.460 --> 0:46:42.330
<v Meb Keflezighi>and  few  other  things,  but  the  English,  spelling  and  pronunciation 

0:46:42.330 --> 0:46:45.870
<v Meb Keflezighi>can  be  extremely  difficult.  But  it's  all  about  adaptation,  just 

0:46:45.870 --> 0:46:48.390
<v Meb Keflezighi>like  running  and  learning.  Sometimes  you  have  to  work  extra 

0:46:48.390 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Meb Keflezighi>hard.  Some  like  myself,  I'm  very  gifted  at  running,  but 

0:46:51.900 --> 0:46:54.930
<v Meb Keflezighi>some  might  not  be  gifted  at running. So I  have  to  wake  up 

0:46:54.930 --> 0:46:56.969
<v Meb Keflezighi>early  and  work  the  extra  mileage  and  I  did  the 

0:46:56.969 --> 0:47:00.540
<v Meb Keflezighi>extra  hours.  In  fact,  my  dad  woke  us  up at 4: 30 

0:47:00.540 --> 0:47:04.710
<v Meb Keflezighi>AM  in  the  morning  before  going  7: 30 to  class.  But 

0:47:04.710 --> 0:47:08.219
<v Meb Keflezighi>wisdom  and  support  comes  from  our  families,  friends.  But  your 

0:47:08.219 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Meb Keflezighi>grandmother's  wisdom  about  borrowing  the  air  from  the  future  generation 

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:16.530
<v Meb Keflezighi>clearly  resonates  with  you.  How  does  this  philosophy  influence  your 

0:47:16.530 --> 0:47:21.180
<v Meb Keflezighi>commitment  to  volunteer  with  NYRR  Open  Run  program?

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.969
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>It's  a  good  part  of  my  personality.  So  growing  up, 

0:47:26.969 --> 0:47:31.710
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>my  father's  grandmother,  who's  our great- grandmother,  often  reminded  us  that 

0:47:31.830 --> 0:47:35.549
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>we  did  not  inherit  this  earth  from  our  ancestors.  We're 

0:47:35.550 --> 0:47:38.850
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>borrowing  it  from  the  next  generation,  from  our  children,  so 

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.750
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>we  should  strive  to  leave  things  better  than  we  found 

0:47:42.750 --> 0:47:46.110
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>them.  So  that  has  pushed  me  to,  I'm  already  passionate 

0:47:46.110 --> 0:47:50.940
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>about  technology,  about art, but it  has  also  fueled  my  passion  for  philanthropy, 

0:47:50.940 --> 0:47:54.660
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>for  giving  back  to  the  community.  And  not  just  myself, 

0:47:55.530 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>my  siblings  as  well.  We're  very  involved.  Whichever  community  in 

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.380
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>which  we  landed  in  the  world,  because  we're  spread  throughout 

0:48:01.710 --> 0:48:06.509
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>various continents,  we  make  sure  that  we  always give back to  the  community.

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.730
<v Meb Keflezighi>Excellent.  What  impact  do  you  hope  to  have  on  the 

0:48:11.730 --> 0:48:14.940
<v Meb Keflezighi>NYRR  Open  Run  community?

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.070
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>I  hope  that  more  folks  like  me,  who  didn't  grow 

0:48:20.070 --> 0:48:23.460
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>up  with  many  running  role  models  will  know  that  it's 

0:48:23.580 --> 0:48:26.580
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>something  they  can  do.  I  cannot  think  of  a  single 

0:48:26.580 --> 0:48:29.340
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>person  in  my  family  who  had  run  more  than  800 

0:48:29.340 --> 0:48:33.150
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>meters  growing  up,  and  the  800  meter  was  because it  was 

0:48:33.150 --> 0:48:37.980
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>mandatory  in  high  school.  Once  we  were done with high school, that's it.  Nobody  ran.  And 

0:48:37.980 --> 0:48:41.760
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>we  knew  very,  very  little  about  health.  Which  meant  that 

0:48:41.820 --> 0:48:44.489
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>by  the  time  we  became  adults,  most  of  us  suffered 

0:48:44.489 --> 0:48:52.290
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>from  hypertension,  diabetes,  and  other  disease  that  could  be  preventable 

0:48:53.070 --> 0:48:57.330
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>with  the  right  amount  of  education.
 For  just  running,  like 

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.750
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>going  out  for  a  jog  is  not  something  we  were 

0:49:00.750 --> 0:49:05.850
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>taught  in  the  community.  So  that's  where  I  hope  we 

0:49:05.850 --> 0:49:09.270
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>can  create  more  role  models,  where  anybody  can  know  that 

0:49:09.270 --> 0:49:12.900
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>they  can  run.  On  the  other  hand,  I've  also  been 

0:49:12.930 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>very  inspired  by  the  Rising  Road  Runners,  the  children  who 

0:49:17.460 --> 0:49:21.330
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>are  learning  about  leadership  skills.  I  wish  I had had  a  similar 

0:49:21.330 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>program  growing  up. It will  have  certainly  made  me  a  lot  more 

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:29.460
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>confident  and  made  me  a  better  communicator.  So  that's  another 

0:49:29.460 --> 0:49:31.980
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>aspect  where  I  hope  the  New  York  Road  Runners  legacy 

0:49:31.980 --> 0:49:32.910
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>can  continue.  Yeah.

0:49:34.020 --> 0:49:36.690
<v Meb Keflezighi>Absolutely.  I  think  the  New York  Road  Runners  have  a  complete 

0:49:36.690 --> 0:49:40.529
<v Meb Keflezighi>package  from  their  rising  New  York  stars  to  Team  For 

0:49:40.530 --> 0:49:43.770
<v Meb Keflezighi>Kids  and  other  organization  races.  But  you've  begun  your  journey 

0:49:43.770 --> 0:49:50.340
<v Meb Keflezighi>with the NYRR in  2017,  and  have  since  completed  impressive  54  races,  including 

0:49:50.340 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Meb Keflezighi>seven  marathons.  What  initially  drew  you  to  New York  Road  Runners 

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:58.110
<v Meb Keflezighi>and  how  has  your  involvement  with  the  organization  evolved  over 

0:49:58.110 --> 0:49:58.650
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  years?

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:04.050
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>You  are  going  to  laugh.  I  used  to  go  and 

0:50:04.110 --> 0:50:07.650
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>cheer  for  the  marathoners  after  I  moved  to  New  York, 

0:50:07.650 --> 0:50:10.860
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>a  little  over  12  years  ago,  and  it  was  always 

0:50:10.860 --> 0:50:15.509
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>fun.  It  was  on  my  way  to  church,  therefore  not 

0:50:15.510 --> 0:50:17.430
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>out  of  my  way.  I  would  just  be  there  at 

0:50:17.430 --> 0:50:20.219
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>the  finish  line  by  Columbus  Circle,  just  before  going  to 

0:50:20.219 --> 0:50:25.350
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>choir  rehearsal.  And  I  saw  a  postcard  in  my  neighborhood 

0:50:25.410 --> 0:50:29.370
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>one  weekend  talking  about  a  program  called  Open  Run, and  I 

0:50:29.370 --> 0:50:33.480
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>figure  this  is  a  great  opportunity  to  explore  the  woods 

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:36.810
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>because  I  like  walking  in  the  neighborhood  park,  but  I 

0:50:36.810 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>was  always  weary  of  going  into  the  woods  alone,  and 

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>I  figure  by  joining  this  community,  I  will  have  the 

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.810
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>safety  net  of  a  large  group.
 So  I  joined  the 

0:50:45.810 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>group  and  I  jokingly  mentioned  to  someone  that  on  my 

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.969
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>bucket  list  I  would  like  to  participate  in  the  New 

0:50:53.969 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>York  City  Marathon.  In  fact,  the  previous  autumn  here,  it 

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>will  be  fall,  but  in  New  Zealand, it  was  actually  the 

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>spring  in  November,  I  had  just  visited  Queenstown,  New  Zealand 

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:09.900
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>and  I  happened  to  be  visiting  it  during  the  marathon. 

0:51:10.230 --> 0:51:12.989
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>And  I  thought  that  would  be  interesting  for  me  to 

0:51:12.989 --> 0:51:16.020
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>do  so.  I  just  thought it's  a  matter  of  doing  it 

0:51:16.020 --> 0:51:19.170
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>in 10 or  20  years,  it  would  take  me  that  long  to 

0:51:19.170 --> 0:51:22.350
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>train.  And  everyone  in  the  group  dared  me  to  just 

0:51:22.350 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>put  my  name  in  the  hat  and  sign  up  for 

0:51:25.350 --> 0:51:30.031
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>the  marathon  lottery.  And  then I got selected.  I  got  selected  that  year.

0:51:30.031 --> 0:51:30.391
<v Meb Keflezighi>It was meant to be.

0:51:32.940 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>My  first  reaction  was, " Yay."  And  then, " Oh  no,  I 

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:39.300
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>don't  know  what  to  do."  So I had  to  look  up  a 

0:51:39.300 --> 0:51:43.980
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>Couch  to  5K  program.  Ended  up  remembering  that  how  he 

0:51:43.980 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>done  has  a  really  good  program  on  his  website,  so 

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:51.060
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>that's  what  I  followed.  It's  like  a  couch  to 5K, and then  5K 

0:51:51.060 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>to  marathon.  Believe  it  or  not,  training  for  my  first 5K 

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>was  a  lot  harder  than  training  for  marathon  because  I 

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.380
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>didn't  know  what  you're  supposed  to  do  while  you're  running, 

0:52:01.620 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>because  it's  been  two,  three minutes. I'm  like,  why am I still running?  Am  I  supposed 

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:09.180
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>to  have  water?  Am  I  supposed  to  have  food?  What 

0:52:09.180 --> 0:52:12.750
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>if  I  have  to  make  a  pit  stop?  It  started 

0:52:12.750 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>as  a  dare.

0:52:14.730 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Meb Keflezighi>It  all  starts  from  one  mile to the 5K to the  10K,  half- marathon,  full 

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:21.570
<v Meb Keflezighi>marathon,  and you have  an  impressive-

0:52:21.570 --> 0:52:21.571
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>Exactly.

0:52:21.571 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Meb Keflezighi>...  impressive-

0:52:22.890 --> 0:52:26.670
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>And  most  qualify  to  Nine  Plus  One,  one  year,  then 

0:52:27.270 --> 0:52:29.790
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>the  following  year  you  feel  that,  well,  I'm  already  qualified, 

0:52:29.790 --> 0:52:30.540
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>must  well  doing  it.

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Meb Keflezighi>Great.  No,  no.  The  Nine  Plus  One  is  a  great 

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:35.549
<v Meb Keflezighi>way  to  get  into  the  marathon,  but  to be  able  to 

0:52:35.550 --> 0:52:39.390
<v Meb Keflezighi>do  seven  marathons  at  this  year's marathon is  very  impressive.  So  what's 

0:52:39.390 --> 0:52:41.129
<v Meb Keflezighi>your  goal  for  2025?

0:52:42.540 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>That's  a  good  question.  I  have  been  very  inspired  by 

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:51.840
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>people  who  travel  to  other cities to do a  marathon,  so  definitely  I'm  still 

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:55.530
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>interested  in  doing  the  2025  New  York  City  Marathon,  but 

0:52:55.530 --> 0:52:58.500
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>I  would  also  like  to  see  what  other  marathons  are 

0:52:58.500 --> 0:53:02.310
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>out  there.  I've  heard  of  the  Philly  Marathon,  Chicago,  Boston, 

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:08.070
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>Berlin,  Tokyo,  Paris,  and  of  course  the  Queenstown  one,  maybe 

0:53:08.070 --> 0:53:11.460
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>go  back  to  New  Zealand.  So  my  goal  is  to, 

0:53:11.550 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>it  doesn't  have  to  be  a  full  marathon,  but  to 

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:17.010
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>hopefully  do  a  race  in  another  city  or  another  state.

0:53:18.330 --> 0:53:22.050
<v Meb Keflezighi>That'd  be  an  excellent,  this  is  the  borrowed  space  from the earth, 

0:53:22.469 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Meb Keflezighi>so  go  enjoy  it.  Wherever  you  go,  wish  you  all 

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Meb Keflezighi>the  best  and  good  luck.

0:53:25.980 --> 0:53:26.850
<v Rose-Gaëlle Belinga>Thank  you.

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.580
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Thank  you  so  much,  Rose- Gaëlle  for  joining  us  and 

0:53:29.580 --> 0:53:32.070
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>for  being  a  member  of  New  York  Road  Runners,  and 

0:53:32.070 --> 0:53:35.430
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>an  incredible  leader  in  our  Open  Run  program  as  well. 

0:53:35.820 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Now  it's  on  to  the  final  part  of  today's  show, 

0:53:38.010 --> 0:53:39.900
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>the  Meb  Minutes.  When  it  comes  to  New

0:53:39.900 --> 0:53:44.760
<v Meb Keflezighi>Year's  resolution,  start  with  a  clear,  achievable  goal  that  excites 

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Meb Keflezighi>you  and  that  has  a  personal  meaning.  Whether  it's  running 

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Meb Keflezighi>your  first  race,  setting  a  personal  best,  or  simply  running 

0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Meb Keflezighi>your  consistently,  make  sure  it  is  something  that  inspires  you 

0:53:54.810 --> 0:53:59.190
<v Meb Keflezighi>and  to  stay  committed.  Set  small  milestones  along  the  way 

0:53:59.430 --> 0:54:03.180
<v Meb Keflezighi>and  celebrate  the  progress.  Stay  patient,  trust  the  process  and 

0:54:03.180 --> 0:54:07.230
<v Meb Keflezighi>remember,  consistency  is  the  key.  Most  importantly,  enjoy  the  journey. 

0:54:07.230 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Meb Keflezighi>Running  is  about  more  than  just  crossing  the  finish  line. 

0:54:11.010 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Meb Keflezighi>It  is  becoming  a  stronger,  both  physically  and  mentally.  It 

0:54:15.270 --> 0:54:18.270
<v Meb Keflezighi>is  your  happy  hour  and  make  sure  you  put  no 

0:54:18.270 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Meb Keflezighi>pressure  on  yourself  or  others  because  this  is  something  that 

0:54:22.140 --> 0:54:24.930
<v Meb Keflezighi>is  personal  to  you.  I'm  going  to  give  you  advice. 

0:54:24.989 --> 0:54:27.060
<v Meb Keflezighi>The  progress  that  you  make  is  huge.  I  had  a 

0:54:27.150 --> 0:54:31.710
<v Meb Keflezighi>tea  with  Paul  Tergat,  the  great  10K  runner,  marathoner  from 

0:54:31.710 --> 0:54:34.590
<v Meb Keflezighi>Kenya,  two- time  silver  medalist.  And  he  told  me  he's  like, "

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.500
<v Meb Keflezighi>Anybody  can  do  a  workout,  but  making  the  progress  is 

0:54:37.500 --> 0:54:39.989
<v Meb Keflezighi>going  to  be  big  difference  because  it's  not  how  many 

0:54:39.989 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Meb Keflezighi>workouts  you  do  by  the  small  progress  that  you  make 

0:54:42.150 --> 0:54:45.510
<v Meb Keflezighi>weekly,  monthly,  and  then  leading  hopefully  to  the  big  races."

0:54:45.780 --> 0:54:48.270
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>All  right,  that's  a  wrap  on  the  first  episode  of 

0:54:48.270 --> 0:54:51.570
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Set  the  Pace  for  2025. We  want  to  thank  our  guest 

0:54:51.570 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>today,  coach  Ben  Delaney  and  Rose-Gaëlle  Belinga,  and  again,  a 

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:59.070
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>reminder  next  week  I'll  be  answering  your  questions. So  if  you've 

0:54:59.070 --> 0:55:01.110
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0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Rob Simmelkjaer>Year  and  we  will  see  you  next  week.