1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:02,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Because I know what this running thing did for me, 2 00:00:03,029 --> 00:00:06,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it gave me cardio confidence. And that cardio confidence, is 3 00:00:06,660 --> 00:00:10,440 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that instills this belief in you, that because I can 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,810 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: get to the bottom of the road, because I can 5 00:00:12,900 --> 00:00:15,090 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: accomplish anything that I set my mind to in the 6 00:00:15,090 --> 00:00:19,170 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: running space, I can probably do anything outside of the 7 00:00:19,170 --> 00:00:20,700 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: running space that I set my mind to. 8 00:00:24,510 --> 00:00:28,950 Speaker 3: Thank you, New York. Today we're reminded of the power 9 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 3: of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, 10 00:00:33,570 --> 00:00:34,379 Speaker 3: on your mark. 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,050 Speaker 1: The first woman to finish for the second straight year here 12 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,129 Speaker 1: smiling Miki Gorman, and why not? 2: 29: 30, the time for Grete Waitz. 14 00:00:48,420 --> 00:00:51,089 Speaker 2: Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes 15 00:00:51,090 --> 00:00:54,420 Speaker 2: to the line. Pointing to his chest, pointed to the 16 00:00:54,420 --> 00:00:58,260 Speaker 2: USA he so proudly wears across his chest. A great 17 00:00:58,260 --> 00:00:59,002 Speaker 2: day for Matt (inaudible) . 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:08,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hey everybody, and welcome to a special long edition 19 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:10,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: of Set the Pace, the official podcast of New York 20 00:01:10,950 --> 00:01:14,729 Rob Simmelkjaer: Road Runners, presented by Peloton. I'm your host, Rob Simmelkjaer, 21 00:01:14,730 --> 00:01:17,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: the CEO of New York Road Runners. And with me, 22 00:01:17,940 --> 00:01:23,069 Rob Simmelkjaer: my co- host and birthday girl this week, Peloton instructor, 23 00:01:23,130 --> 00:01:27,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs Gentry. Becs, happy birthday, belated. How are you? 24 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:30,720 Becs Gentry: Thank you. I'm good. Year older, feeling a lot 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,069 Becs Gentry: wiser, and all of that joy. I had a wonderful 26 00:01:35,069 --> 00:01:38,220 Becs Gentry: week, celebrate... Well, not week, I'm not the queen, but 27 00:01:38,580 --> 00:01:42,870 Becs Gentry: a wonderful couple of days of celebration. Rodan, it was 28 00:01:42,870 --> 00:01:45,060 Becs Gentry: my father- in- law's 70th birthday as well, so we 29 00:01:45,060 --> 00:01:48,480 Becs Gentry: had a big family party this weekend for him. So, 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,950 Becs Gentry: it's been a lot of joy and good memories being made. 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. You're not getting any older, I don't care what 32 00:01:56,100 --> 00:01:58,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: the calendar says. You keep doing what you do and 33 00:01:58,530 --> 00:02:04,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're clearly aging in reverse. So, happy reverse birthday. Absolutely, yes. 34 00:02:04,710 --> 00:02:04,920 Becs Gentry: Thank you, I appreciate it. 35 00:02:06,090 --> 00:02:09,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: You're welcome, you're welcome. And Becs, we're going long today 36 00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:12,209 Rob Simmelkjaer: with today's episode of Set the Pace. This is something 37 00:02:12,210 --> 00:02:15,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: that was actually in response to a lot of requests 38 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:19,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: we've gotten from listeners who want a long episode to 39 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:22,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: go with the long run. And so, we know a 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: lot of folks right now are out there getting ready 41 00:02:25,470 --> 00:02:30,001 Rob Simmelkjaer: for the Boston Marathon, the London Marathon, the spring 42 00:02:30,180 --> 00:02:33,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: races that are coming up. And so this is really 43 00:02:33,450 --> 00:02:36,389 Rob Simmelkjaer: for them and anybody who's training for a long, long 44 00:02:36,389 --> 00:02:38,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: race, or if you're just in the car for a 45 00:02:38,580 --> 00:02:41,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: long time or have a couple hours worth of errands 46 00:02:41,490 --> 00:02:44,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: to run and you want some good running talk to 47 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:45,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: go along with you, we're going to go for about 48 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:50,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: two hours today. We got more than one great guest 49 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: and we're so excited. So, we'll get to all that in 50 00:02:53,669 --> 00:02:55,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: just a second but this will be fun, I think, 51 00:02:55,740 --> 00:02:58,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: for us to have some longer conversations and give folks 52 00:02:58,950 --> 00:03:00,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: a chance to settle in for a while. 53 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,050 Becs Gentry: Absolutely, and we are so honored if you are taking 54 00:03:04,050 --> 00:03:06,990 Becs Gentry: us out for that long run, we're honored that we 55 00:03:06,990 --> 00:03:09,630 Becs Gentry: are here with you and we hope that you have some 56 00:03:09,660 --> 00:03:13,410 Becs Gentry: fun with us over these miles and maybe some of 57 00:03:13,410 --> 00:03:16,919 Becs Gentry: these conversations might shake out some nerves. There's definitely a 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Becs Gentry: lot of tips and tricks and moments in these conversations, 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,610 Becs Gentry: all of the conversations, all of the guests that we 60 00:03:23,610 --> 00:03:28,619 Becs Gentry: have on this long episode. So yeah, thanks for being 61 00:03:28,620 --> 00:03:31,230 Becs Gentry: here with us, but we have a lot to 62 00:03:31,230 --> 00:03:35,040 Becs Gentry: celebrate too, actually, Rob. We have a lot of fun 63 00:03:35,250 --> 00:03:41,340 Becs Gentry: coming. I feel like once April kicks off, it is 64 00:03:41,580 --> 00:03:46,860 Becs Gentry: truly spring and there's truly all of the magic starts 65 00:03:46,860 --> 00:03:49,950 Becs Gentry: happening, and that kicks off for us next week. 66 00:03:50,610 --> 00:03:53,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: April is so much fun at New York Road Runners 67 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:56,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: and in New York. We'll talk about the running for 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: a second, and then we'll talk about the podcast. Some 69 00:03:59,730 --> 00:04:01,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: of my favorite races of our year are in 70 00:04:01,830 --> 00:04:04,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: the month of April, because we do a lot of 71 00:04:04,170 --> 00:04:07,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: these kind of four- mile runs and I love the four- 72 00:04:07,590 --> 00:04:10,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: mile distance. So, this coming Sunday we've got the Run 73 00:04:10,980 --> 00:04:14,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: as One four- miler in Central Park, which is always 74 00:04:14,460 --> 00:04:16,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: one of my favorites. And I'm not quite sure why 75 00:04:16,890 --> 00:04:19,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs, but actually two years in a row, for me 76 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: personally, this race has been my best pace race for 77 00:04:24,089 --> 00:04:26,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Road Runners. Back- to- back years, it's been 78 00:04:26,910 --> 00:04:28,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: my best pace. I don't know if I'll be able 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: to keep that streak going, but I've had two 80 00:04:31,230 --> 00:04:34,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: straight years of really great days. I just love the course, 81 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:36,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's got a nice kind of downhill finish and you 82 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:38,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: love to run fast at the end. So that's coming 83 00:04:38,550 --> 00:04:40,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: up. And then a week after that, we've got the 84 00:04:40,950 --> 00:04:43,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: Retro Run, which has actually moved up from where it 85 00:04:43,980 --> 00:04:47,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: usually sits in the middle of the summer, because we 86 00:04:47,460 --> 00:04:49,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: switched our calendar a bit this year. So the Retro 87 00:04:49,830 --> 00:04:52,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: Run where people are always invited to come and wear 88 00:04:52,830 --> 00:04:56,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: kind of the old school clothes from the '70s and the '80s, and 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: we bring out some of the older New York Road 90 00:04:59,370 --> 00:05:02,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: Runners stuff, the signage and the logos and we 91 00:05:02,910 --> 00:05:04,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: have a lot of fun with that race. So, that'll 92 00:05:04,470 --> 00:05:07,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: be the weekend after that. So, a lot of great 93 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:08,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: stuff happening in the month of April. We're also going 94 00:05:08,970 --> 00:05:12,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: to have our women's half marathon later in the month, 95 00:05:12,420 --> 00:05:16,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: that's now sponsored by our friends at Maybelline. So, just 96 00:05:16,170 --> 00:05:19,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: a lot of great things coming up with Road Runners 97 00:05:19,050 --> 00:05:21,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the month of April. And then Becs, you were 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,419 Rob Simmelkjaer: kind of alluding to it on the podcast front. We've 99 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:28,169 Rob Simmelkjaer: got a big anniversary coming up on April 8th. We 100 00:05:28,170 --> 00:05:32,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: will have the 100th episode of Set The Pace. 101 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:32,849 Becs Gentry: Wow, wow. 102 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: I can't believe it. I mean, I'm sure for you 103 00:05:35,460 --> 00:05:38,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's amazing, for me it's insane because I still think 104 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:43,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: back to the first kind of beginnings of this podcast, and 105 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:47,279 Rob Simmelkjaer: the meetings that we had at New York Road Runners 106 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: and the people who I said, " Let's do this so 107 00:05:51,060 --> 00:05:53,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: we can have a different way of talking to our 108 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: members and to our audience," and we've had so many 109 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: great people involved in the podcast over that 100 episodes. 110 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: Matt Singer, who was kind of there at the 111 00:06:02,610 --> 00:06:04,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: very beginning, our head of content at New York Road 112 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:10,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: Runners. Lou Pellegrino, who came in with the company that 113 00:06:11,220 --> 00:06:16,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: his boss Spencer Brown works with, works for. Spencer was 114 00:06:16,170 --> 00:06:18,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: the first guy I called to say, " Hey, can you 115 00:06:18,390 --> 00:06:22,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: help us put a podcast together?" Spencer brought in Lou, 116 00:06:22,020 --> 00:06:25,919 Rob Simmelkjaer: who's our phenomenal editor and puts this show together every 117 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: single week. Catherine Jones joined as our producer, and 118 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:33,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: then of course it was me and Meb for the beginning and 119 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:35,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: now it's me and you, Becs, with Meb still involved. 120 00:06:35,850 --> 00:06:39,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: So, it feels like so much has happened in 100 121 00:06:39,180 --> 00:06:41,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: episodes and it's been such a great ride. And we're 122 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,049 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to celebrate that 100th episode with a live episode 123 00:06:46,380 --> 00:06:50,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: at the New York Public Theater, which- 124 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:50,070 Becs Gentry: Wow. 125 00:06:50,071 --> 00:06:54,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... Becs, if you know the history of the New York Public 126 00:06:54,330 --> 00:06:58,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: Theater, it's an iconic place in New York. It's a 127 00:06:58,529 --> 00:07:01,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: theater, we call it the Public, that's really a 128 00:07:01,410 --> 00:07:04,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York institution since the 1950s, just like New York 129 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: Road Runners, and so many unbelievably successful shows have launched 130 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:13,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: there. Hair, A Chorus Line, and of course most recently, 131 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hamilton launched at the Public Theater. They've won 54 Tony 132 00:07:18,780 --> 00:07:20,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: Awards, five Pulitzer Prizes. 133 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:21,630 Becs Gentry: What? 134 00:07:21,630 --> 00:07:24,001 Rob Simmelkjaer: 55 productions have gone on to Broadway from there. 135 00:07:24,001 --> 00:07:24,271 Becs Gentry: Unreal. 136 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: And Set the Pace is going to be on the stage at 137 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: the public theater. It's bananas. 138 00:07:29,610 --> 00:07:32,310 Becs Gentry: We'll be the 56th production that goes to Broadway. 139 00:07:32,580 --> 00:07:33,090 Becs Gentry: I'm kidding. 140 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:34,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: Let's not get crazy. 141 00:07:36,090 --> 00:07:38,880 Becs Gentry: I cannot wait. I love it when we have our 142 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,690 Becs Gentry: live shows. It is always so inspiring to meet our 143 00:07:42,690 --> 00:07:46,950 Becs Gentry: listeners, to meet the runners, and just have this one- to- 144 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:50,460 Becs Gentry: one interaction with people. So, I cannot wait to see 145 00:07:50,460 --> 00:07:54,030 Becs Gentry: everybody next Tuesday at this beautiful event. 146 00:07:54,210 --> 00:07:56,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm going to see if we can drag Lou Pellegrino 147 00:07:56,670 --> 00:08:00,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: to show up in person for that episode and get 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,351 Rob Simmelkjaer: some of the people behind the scenes. 149 00:08:01,351 --> 00:08:01,679 Becs Gentry: 100% pick her, yes. 150 00:08:02,190 --> 00:08:04,681 Rob Simmelkjaer: Matt and Catherine to actually stand up on stage- 151 00:08:04,681 --> 00:08:04,682 Becs Gentry: On stage, yes. 152 00:08:04,682 --> 00:08:04,742 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... for a second. 153 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:06,840 Becs Gentry: They should. 154 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: Just so they can get some love for helping this 155 00:08:10,050 --> 00:08:12,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: show get to where it is with 100 episodes. So 156 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: we'll work on that offline. 157 00:08:13,950 --> 00:08:14,041 Becs Gentry: We'll work on that, yep. 158 00:08:14,041 --> 00:08:17,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: But I think if you come to the Public theater, we're going 159 00:08:17,580 --> 00:08:19,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: to make sure you meet some of the people behind 160 00:08:19,590 --> 00:08:19,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: the show. 161 00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:20,041 Becs Gentry: You might meet them. 162 00:08:20,041 --> 00:08:23,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: But it's been so great. Thank you to everybody who's been listening 163 00:08:23,490 --> 00:08:26,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: all this time and we hope you'll stay with us 164 00:08:26,130 --> 00:08:30,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: for many episodes to come. And then Becs, we've 165 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: got another live episode happening on April 19th. For the 166 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: second year in a row, we're going to be recording, 167 00:08:35,970 --> 00:08:39,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: Set the Pace live from the Citizens House of Blues 168 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: in Boston. This is our second year of doing this. 169 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,569 Rob Simmelkjaer: The Saturday before the Boston Marathon. That's going to be 170 00:08:45,570 --> 00:08:49,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: a special member only event, and my guest host that 171 00:08:49,410 --> 00:08:53,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: day will be ABC's Sam Ryan, who of course is 172 00:08:53,550 --> 00:08:58,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: an amazing broadcaster, well- known to everybody in New York. 173 00:08:58,380 --> 00:09:01,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: Her phenomenal job as a sports anchor for Eyewitness 174 00:09:01,740 --> 00:09:06,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: News, and she's a regular host of the studio production 175 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: for our marathon and our other big races. So, so 176 00:09:09,780 --> 00:09:13,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: excited to have Sam join us. And our guest for 177 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: that episode is going to be the incredible Ed Eyestone, 178 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: a two- time Olympian. 179 00:09:19,140 --> 00:09:19,199 Becs Gentry: Wow. 180 00:09:19,470 --> 00:09:23,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sometime broadcaster, and of course famously, coach to both Conner 181 00:09:23,370 --> 00:09:26,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: Mantz and Clayton Young, out there in Utah. So, cannot 182 00:09:26,910 --> 00:09:27,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: wait for that episode. 183 00:09:28,620 --> 00:09:32,190 Becs Gentry: Cannot wait, I am so envious. I need to 184 00:09:32,190 --> 00:09:35,429 Becs Gentry: get myself back up to Boston after, I haven't been 185 00:09:35,429 --> 00:09:37,260 Becs Gentry: up for a couple of years. So, I'm going to 186 00:09:37,260 --> 00:09:41,100 Becs Gentry: be tuning in and cannot wait to hear this wonderful 187 00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:44,880 Becs Gentry: episode and cheer Sam and all the other runners on 188 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,800 Becs Gentry: at the race as well. 189 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: I can't wait to, I've got so many questions for Ed Eyestone, 190 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: in terms of how he's been able to do what he's done with Conner, with Clayton, 191 00:09:55,140 --> 00:09:59,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: with this incredible pack of fast, fast runners out there 192 00:09:59,970 --> 00:10:02,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: in Utah. It's really become a hotbed of running 193 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the United States, which isn't necessarily what you'd naturally 194 00:10:06,179 --> 00:10:08,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: would think would happen in Utah. You think about skiing, 195 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: and you think about winter sports primarily in Utah. They're 196 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to have another Winter Olympics out there after having 197 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: one already, and suddenly it's a distance running mecca. So, 198 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: can't wait to talk to Ed about what is happening 199 00:10:20,429 --> 00:10:22,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: out there with running in Utah and all these great 200 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: runners. So, that's going to be great. But today, as 201 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:29,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: I said, we're going long, a two- hour episode, as 202 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:32,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: folks get ready for Boston and London. So our 203 00:10:32,460 --> 00:10:36,569 Rob Simmelkjaer: guest today, first coming off of a relay run from 204 00:10:36,570 --> 00:10:41,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: Los Angeles to Las Vegas, is Apple Fitness Plus trainer 205 00:10:41,010 --> 00:10:45,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: and running coach, as well as author, Cory Wharton- Malcolm. 206 00:10:45,630 --> 00:10:49,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: And Becs, you and Cory go back a ways as our 207 00:10:49,140 --> 00:10:52,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: listeners will hear, you guys worked together at Nike, and 208 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm excited to have you guys reconnect because I know 209 00:10:56,490 --> 00:10:58,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: you guys have a lot of things to talk about. 210 00:10:58,590 --> 00:11:01,800 Becs Gentry: Oh yeah, you are all in store for a truly 211 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Becs Gentry: magnificent conversation with Cory. He's one of a kind. 212 00:11:06,390 --> 00:11:11,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: He is an incredible person, incredibly inspiring and just sums 213 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: up so many of the things we talk about when 214 00:11:13,230 --> 00:11:15,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: it comes to running and the power of running. So, it's 215 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,569 Rob Simmelkjaer: a great conversation and Cory will join us in just 216 00:11:18,570 --> 00:11:21,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: a minute. Then Becs, we're going to go back to 217 00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:26,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: the in- family portion of our broadcast and check in 218 00:11:26,010 --> 00:11:29,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: with your partner, Austin, as he prepares to run the 219 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:33,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: London Marathon, which we're excited about. And we're going 220 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: to see how Austin's feeling as he gets ready for London. 221 00:11:36,570 --> 00:11:40,590 Becs Gentry: Absolutely, can't wait to hear about his whole journey to 222 00:11:40,590 --> 00:11:44,550 Becs Gentry: this infamous race. And there might be a little surprise in 223 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:47,760 Becs Gentry: store for Austin as well, so stay tuned to find 224 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,199 Becs Gentry: out what that might be. 225 00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:53,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: Maybe so, maybe so. Austin's got aspirations, for sure. That six- 226 00:11:53,730 --> 00:11:57,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: star journey, we all want to get that six- star. 227 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,001 Rob Simmelkjaer: And then we've got a great member moment as well, as 228 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: we were going to keep it in the family, and 229 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:06,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: we mean the whole family. Sister and brother TFK members, 230 00:12:06,510 --> 00:12:09,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: Teresita and Luis Gonzalez are going to join us to 231 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:14,069 Rob Simmelkjaer: talk about their training for both Boston and London, and 232 00:12:14,070 --> 00:12:16,829 Rob Simmelkjaer: how with every finish line they cross, more of their 233 00:12:16,830 --> 00:12:19,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: family members cross it with them. They're bringing the family 234 00:12:19,770 --> 00:12:21,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: along for these runs. So we'll talk to them, look 235 00:12:21,420 --> 00:12:23,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: forward to that. And then in keeping with our spring 236 00:12:23,850 --> 00:12:26,939 Rob Simmelkjaer: marathon theme for today, today's Meb Minute is all about 237 00:12:26,940 --> 00:12:29,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: traveling for your run. So, stay tuned for that. 238 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,970 Becs Gentry: Looking for new ways to keep you moving? 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All 248 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:08,670 Becs Gentry: Access membership not included. Peloton, the official digital fitness partner 249 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,480 Becs Gentry: for New York Road Runners. Cory Wharton- Malcolm is a London- 250 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,230 Becs Gentry: born running coach, whose journey began with a very simple 251 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:20,280 Becs Gentry: goal, just get to the end of the street. Since 252 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,330 Becs Gentry: completing his first marathon back in 2007, he's gone on 253 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,840 Becs Gentry: to coach thousands of runners with Apple Fitness Plus, and 254 00:13:27,870 --> 00:13:31,860 Becs Gentry: his own community, Track Mafia. Known for blending music, 255 00:13:31,860 --> 00:13:36,240 Becs Gentry: humor and honesty, Cory brings joy and inclusivity to a 256 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,319 Becs Gentry: sport that can often feel very intimidating. His book came 257 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,100 Becs Gentry: out in 2024, All You Need is Rhythm and Grit. 258 00:13:44,460 --> 00:13:47,819 Becs Gentry: And it captures his philosophy that running is for everybody 259 00:13:48,090 --> 00:13:52,170 Becs Gentry: and every mind. Today, I am so excited that he 260 00:13:52,170 --> 00:13:55,800 Becs Gentry: is here to talk long runs, great vibes and why 261 00:13:55,830 --> 00:13:58,740 Becs Gentry: just getting to the bottom of the road is still 262 00:13:58,830 --> 00:14:00,000 Becs Gentry: his go- to mindset. 263 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: Cory, it is great to have you here on 264 00:14:03,059 --> 00:14:04,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: Set the Pace. Welcome. 265 00:14:05,130 --> 00:14:07,920 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Thank you, Rob. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm very happy to be here. A 266 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,360 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: little bit sleepy but overjoyed. 267 00:14:09,809 --> 00:14:12,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, the sleep thing. So you were telling us before 268 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: we started, and by the way, I'm happy to reunite 269 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:17,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: you and Becs. I know you guys go back a long way. 270 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Becs Gentry: Big side note. 271 00:14:19,470 --> 00:14:21,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, your days together at Nike. 272 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,460 Becs Gentry: Pretty much everything we talk about today, we'll be like, " 273 00:14:23,490 --> 00:14:27,480 Becs Gentry: Oh yeah, we did that, but 10 years ago. Oh yeah, Cory and I did that, 10 years 274 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,701 Becs Gentry: ago." Yeah, yep, yep, yes. 275 00:14:29,701 --> 00:14:33,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, that's right. Becs and Cory were colleagues for a long time 276 00:14:33,390 --> 00:14:35,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: at Nike Run Club, so we'll talk about that at 277 00:14:35,730 --> 00:14:38,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: some point. But so I'm going to stay out of the way for 278 00:14:38,130 --> 00:14:39,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: the most part so you guys can catch up on 279 00:14:39,930 --> 00:14:40,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: this podcast. 280 00:14:40,650 --> 00:14:40,830 Becs Gentry: Perfect. 281 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: But I just want to start with the sleep thing. 282 00:14:44,340 --> 00:14:48,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: So Cory, you just did an incredible thing, participating in 283 00:14:48,630 --> 00:14:51,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: this run from Los Angeles to Vegas. 284 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:52,020 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes. 285 00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:54,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: Is that why you haven't slept or what's going on? 286 00:14:54,270 --> 00:14:55,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: Why haven't you slept at all? 287 00:14:56,310 --> 00:15:00,001 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yeah, so you are 100% correct, Rob. I did a 288 00:15:00,060 --> 00:15:03,480 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: run from Santa Monica to the Welcome to Las Vegas 289 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,820 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: sign, with some wonderful friends, family and teammates. And you 290 00:15:08,820 --> 00:15:11,610 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: start off at 4: 00 AM and you get to 291 00:15:11,610 --> 00:15:15,090 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Vegas when you get to Vegas. So, we were a 292 00:15:15,090 --> 00:15:19,740 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: mixed team, some incredibly fast people, some incredibly easy running 293 00:15:19,740 --> 00:15:23,100 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: people, so the team was balanced. So it took us 294 00:15:23,130 --> 00:15:26,880 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: 50 hours and I'm overjoyed with it because when I did 295 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,850 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it last time, I think it took us 52 or 54 hours. 296 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,050 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: But you just run, just run and run and 297 00:15:34,050 --> 00:15:36,450 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: run, and then when you can't run anymore, you have 298 00:15:36,450 --> 00:15:41,520 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a nap, your teammate tags you in. So, I think 299 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,960 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I ran about 50K or so, really slow on a 300 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,040 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: bum hamstring, and I'm happy. But every night I think 301 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,210 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I got two hours sleep on the Thursday night, because you 302 00:15:54,210 --> 00:15:57,180 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: have to meet at 4: 00 AM. Then on Friday, 303 00:15:57,180 --> 00:15:59,760 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I picked up a little bit of sleep, and the same 304 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,180 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: on Sunday. And then because we arrived in Vegas 305 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:05,520 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: at 6: 00 AM in the morning, you just go, 306 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,400 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: check into your hotel, have an hour sleep, and then 307 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,500 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: go to the pool party. And then I ended up 308 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:14,040 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: just partying all the way through till, I think 4: 45. 309 00:16:14,490 --> 00:16:15,180 Becs Gentry: Oh, boy. 310 00:16:16,770 --> 00:16:20,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: As one does in Vegas. That's why you were running 311 00:16:20,070 --> 00:16:21,661 Rob Simmelkjaer: there, isn't it? So, kind of understandable. 312 00:16:21,661 --> 00:16:21,662 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Of course, but yeah. 313 00:16:21,662 --> 00:16:26,340 Becs Gentry: Dude, I have done this thing multiple times, as Cory 314 00:16:26,340 --> 00:16:29,490 Becs Gentry: has. Cory did it back in, I think 2017 was your first 315 00:16:29,490 --> 00:16:32,011 Becs Gentry: time doing it? 316 00:16:32,011 --> 00:16:32,012 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes, yes. 317 00:16:32,012 --> 00:16:36,780 Becs Gentry: Back with Run Dem, and Track Mafia. Well, this is your first time doing it with a 318 00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:38,340 Becs Gentry: full Track Mafia team though this year? 319 00:16:38,610 --> 00:16:41,850 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes, so that's why it felt even more special than 320 00:16:41,850 --> 00:16:45,210 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it has done previously, because yep, everyone is my family, 321 00:16:45,210 --> 00:16:48,330 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: but this is the first time I've done it with 322 00:16:48,660 --> 00:16:52,170 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: my core family. So my wife and her dear friend, 323 00:16:52,260 --> 00:16:57,030 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Xandria, they organized the entire trip, and then they were 324 00:16:57,030 --> 00:17:00,001 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: all out there as well. So to be with 325 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,170 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: people that you kind of started Track Mafia with and 326 00:17:04,170 --> 00:17:07,679 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to be with young people who you kind of met 10, 11, 327 00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:14,070 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: 12 years ago, and you gave them their first camera 328 00:17:14,070 --> 00:17:17,460 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: because they said they were interested in photography and now 329 00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:22,320 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: they're out in the desert shooting campaigns for different brands. 330 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,970 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: It was just this beautiful full circle moment, and inspiring 331 00:17:27,390 --> 00:17:30,720 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: for me and inspiring for other people because it's 332 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,419 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: like, look at where we started. I couldn't get to 333 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:36,270 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the bottom of the road. And now we're here with our 334 00:17:36,270 --> 00:17:38,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: family running to the bottom of a very, very, very, 335 00:17:38,940 --> 00:17:39,720 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: very long road. 336 00:17:41,070 --> 00:17:43,171 Becs Gentry: Very, very, 340 miles, depending on which route you take. Might be 300. 337 00:17:43,171 --> 00:17:43,172 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes, exactly. 338 00:17:43,172 --> 00:17:50,910 Becs Gentry: Could go into it, that's amazing. And we'll go into the who's 339 00:17:50,910 --> 00:17:52,950 Becs Gentry: and the what's of Track Mafia, because I think that's 340 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:56,639 Becs Gentry: an important part of who you are and where your 341 00:17:57,300 --> 00:18:01,200 Becs Gentry: personal and your running life has come from. But let's 342 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,881 Becs Gentry: go back almost 20 years, since your first London Marathon finish line. 343 00:18:05,881 --> 00:18:06,570 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes, which is crazy. 344 00:18:08,190 --> 00:18:10,740 Becs Gentry: Holy moly. London Marathon is around the corner. This episode 345 00:18:10,740 --> 00:18:14,460 Becs Gentry: will drop as a long run prior to the two 346 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:17,340 Becs Gentry: big spring marathons that are on our doorstep. 347 00:18:17,970 --> 00:18:18,180 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Amazing. 348 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:22,530 Becs Gentry: And it's just unreal for me. I've known Cory for 349 00:18:22,740 --> 00:18:27,330 Becs Gentry: 12 plus years now, and to think you were such a runner 350 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,210 Becs Gentry: when I met you. I looked up to you 351 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:34,198 Becs Gentry: as like, he knows everything about running, this dude. 352 00:18:34,199 --> 00:18:34,320 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: No way. 353 00:18:34,830 --> 00:18:41,609 Becs Gentry: And it was 2026... It is 2025, Rebecca, yes, but 2026, that'll 354 00:18:41,609 --> 00:18:44,340 Becs Gentry: be your 20 years since you first ran London Marathon. 355 00:18:45,390 --> 00:18:49,169 Becs Gentry: What happened at that finish line that made you go, 356 00:18:49,170 --> 00:18:50,580 Becs Gentry: bam, this is it? 357 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,220 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Do you know what? I'd lived in London my entire 358 00:18:56,220 --> 00:18:58,500 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: life and I'd seen the race on television and I'd 359 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,990 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: spoken to people who had done it. They weren't 360 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,939 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: like my friends, they were friends of friends, so I'd 361 00:19:02,940 --> 00:19:06,240 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: just stumbled upon them. But the London Marathon that I went 362 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,340 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to go and see for the first time, it was 363 00:19:08,340 --> 00:19:11,010 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the first time I actually really knew someone and cared 364 00:19:11,010 --> 00:19:14,010 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: about someone that was running it. So when I watched 365 00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:16,020 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: them training, when I watched them run, I was like, 366 00:19:16,109 --> 00:19:18,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: oh wow, this is a normal everyday person that does 367 00:19:18,660 --> 00:19:21,359 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: this stuff. But when I went out on the street 368 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and I saw the diversity of people that were running, 369 00:19:25,170 --> 00:19:31,410 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it was like different sexes, different sizes, completely different 370 00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:35,790 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: races, religions, everyone was running together. And everyone on the 371 00:19:35,790 --> 00:19:38,160 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: city, everyone in the city came out to cheer them 372 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,190 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: on. And I was like, I want some, this is 373 00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:44,220 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: crazy. I want some of this. I'm seeing people running 374 00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:46,949 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: in rhino seats, to running with fridges on their backs, 375 00:19:47,369 --> 00:19:51,270 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and I'm like, this is beautiful. I want to do this. And I 376 00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:53,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: remember saying to my friends, "You know what? I might do this next 377 00:19:53,940 --> 00:19:58,470 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: year," and everybody laughed, literally everyone laughed. They were like, " 378 00:19:58,470 --> 00:20:01,350 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Dude, do you know how poorly you live?" They didn't 379 00:20:01,350 --> 00:20:04,230 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: say it as politely as that, but they were like, "Do you know how 380 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:06,570 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: many poor habits you have? There's no way in the 381 00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:10,440 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: world you can do that." And I went, " Oh, okay. I bet I can." And 382 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,820 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that's literally when, even if I wasn't serious when I 383 00:20:14,820 --> 00:20:18,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: suggested it, I was doubling down on my seriousness when 384 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:21,810 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you doubted me, and that's when the journey began. I 385 00:20:21,810 --> 00:20:26,609 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: just started looking into how one trains for a marathon 386 00:20:26,609 --> 00:20:33,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and began. It was the hardest, back then that 387 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:36,180 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: was the hardest thing that I had ever done. So, 388 00:20:36,180 --> 00:20:37,830 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I just did it. 389 00:20:38,609 --> 00:20:43,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love stories like that. First of all. I love 390 00:20:43,050 --> 00:20:46,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: it, Cory, because the same thing really happened to me. 391 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:49,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: I had not thought about running a marathon. I had 392 00:20:49,109 --> 00:20:52,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: been a runner, so I had running experience, but when 393 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: I was 25 years old, I kind of stumbled upon 394 00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:57,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: the finish line of the Boston Marathon on my way home 395 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: from a Red Sox baseball game. And I was 396 00:21:00,420 --> 00:21:03,119 Rob Simmelkjaer: like, oh, this is cool. And I sat there and 397 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Rob Simmelkjaer: watched and watched and I was like, I got to 398 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: do this. And right then and there I signed up 399 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: for the New York Marathon that following fall. 400 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,090 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Oh, wow. 401 00:21:12,090 --> 00:21:16,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: So it happened to me very similar. Now, I've heard 402 00:21:16,170 --> 00:21:19,919 Rob Simmelkjaer: that you, when you made this pledge to run the 403 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: London Marathon, your first run, you didn't even make it 404 00:21:22,859 --> 00:21:23,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: down the street. 405 00:21:24,210 --> 00:21:28,140 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Nope, I did not. I did not, I didn't. That's kind of where one 406 00:21:28,140 --> 00:21:30,001 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of my mantras comes from, which is, just get 407 00:21:30,090 --> 00:21:32,580 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to the bottom of the road. Because when I stepped 408 00:21:32,580 --> 00:21:35,070 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: out of the house and I looked down to the bottom 409 00:21:35,070 --> 00:21:36,810 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of the road, I was like, ah, nope, this will 410 00:21:36,810 --> 00:21:38,639 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: be easy. I understood it was going to be a 411 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,460 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: challenge, but I didn't think that I was so unhealthy, 412 00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:45,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: so unfit that I wouldn't literally be able to run 413 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:48,030 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to the bottom of the road. Now, where I used 414 00:21:48,030 --> 00:21:50,160 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to live in (inaudible) , I mean, don't get me wrong, it's not 415 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,640 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a big incline. It's like a slight incline, maybe 0. 416 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,740 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: 25%. So it wasn't a hill, but I was like, 417 00:21:59,190 --> 00:22:00,630 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: how can I not do this? 418 00:22:00,630 --> 00:22:02,941 Rob Simmelkjaer: You were going down, you were going down the hill? 419 00:22:02,941 --> 00:22:04,830 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: No, no. I started going up ever so slightly. 420 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:05,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: Okay, got it. 421 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And then it would start going down, and I was 422 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:14,820 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: like, how is this hurting? How is my back hurting? How are my quads hurting? How are my calves hurting? How are 423 00:22:14,970 --> 00:22:17,820 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: my legs hurting? And all I've run for is like 424 00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:21,240 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: three minutes and I was like, how the hell am I going 425 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,400 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to run for four hours, for five hours for six 426 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,659 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: hours? And that's when I realized, huh, all I have 427 00:22:27,659 --> 00:22:31,080 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to do for right now is just get to the 428 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,939 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: bottom of the road. And even if I can't get to the 429 00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:35,609 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: bottom of the road, pick something else which is my 430 00:22:35,609 --> 00:22:38,490 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: representation of the bottom of the road. So it's like, 431 00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:41,669 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: get to that yellow car, get to that dog, get 432 00:22:41,670 --> 00:22:44,699 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to that row of bricks. And that's what I did 433 00:22:45,810 --> 00:22:50,250 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: throughout the run from LA to Vegas. It was like, 434 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,169 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: get to the next equivalent of the bottom of the 435 00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:54,359 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: road. And that might have been a sign, it might 436 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,600 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: have been a rock, it might have been the RV. Just do 437 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,910 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: what you can. And the whole point of that is 438 00:22:59,910 --> 00:23:02,669 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to reframe everything that is in your head. In 439 00:23:02,670 --> 00:23:04,740 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: my head, I'm not saying I don't have negativity in my 440 00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:08,100 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: head, but everything is reframed. It's like, just get there. 441 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,980 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Not, I can't get any further, it's, I got there, 442 00:23:11,550 --> 00:23:13,379 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and you just keep saying that over and over and 443 00:23:13,380 --> 00:23:17,280 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: over again. And then you find out that by saying, 444 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,460 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: just get to that next door or get to that 445 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:22,320 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: next fridge or get to the bottom of the road, 446 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,230 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you've now hit so many different roads and you look 447 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:27,840 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: at your watch and you'll be like, "Ah, I've run 26 448 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,090 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: miles just by looking at the end of the 449 00:23:30,090 --> 00:23:34,109 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: road." And yeah, that's what I try and instill in 450 00:23:34,770 --> 00:23:39,030 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: anyone that I work with, speak with, who has doubt 451 00:23:39,030 --> 00:23:42,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: about anything. It's like, you can do this, you just got 452 00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:42,960 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to reframe it. 453 00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:46,709 Becs Gentry: Absolutely, and that's how you've always been. For as long 454 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:51,510 Becs Gentry: as I've known you, for sure. It's, you've just got 455 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:54,300 Becs Gentry: to try, you've just got to give it a go. Don't be afraid 456 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:58,230 Becs Gentry: to give it a go and show up. And you 457 00:23:58,230 --> 00:24:01,230 Becs Gentry: are somebody who, for as long as I've known 458 00:24:01,230 --> 00:24:04,560 Becs Gentry: you and since we've both been in different countries and 459 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,790 Becs Gentry: same country but now different companies, is you are somebody 460 00:24:08,790 --> 00:24:11,520 Becs Gentry: who shows up for other people as well, massively. And I think 461 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:16,500 Becs Gentry: I feel incredibly lucky to have been your colleague and 462 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:20,070 Becs Gentry: your friend back in London in our Nike days. But 463 00:24:20,130 --> 00:24:22,530 Becs Gentry: everything that you do, whether it's giving back to the 464 00:24:22,530 --> 00:24:26,010 Becs Gentry: community, whether it's just the things you say about your 465 00:24:26,010 --> 00:24:31,919 Becs Gentry: mom and your family and all of the energy that you put 466 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,540 Becs Gentry: out there, is so encouraging for people to actually look 467 00:24:36,540 --> 00:24:38,399 Becs Gentry: into. There's a difference between people saying it and you're 468 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,980 Becs Gentry: like, yeah, but do you really do that? You actually, you embody 469 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:48,390 Becs Gentry: it. And I think to hear you talk about that 470 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:54,359 Becs Gentry: first journey and just take us through how for you, 471 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,859 Becs Gentry: that first marathon, how that hit your mindset to change, 472 00:24:58,859 --> 00:25:01,560 Becs Gentry: to become this person who's like, I've unlocked something 473 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,160 Becs Gentry: for me. How am I going to share this for 474 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,840 Becs Gentry: other people to feel too? 475 00:25:08,790 --> 00:25:12,629 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: So, when I finished that first run, when I finished 476 00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:17,790 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that first marathon, that six hours, nearly seven hour journey 477 00:25:18,180 --> 00:25:22,439 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: was just, it was like free therapy. And I'm not saying that 478 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you shouldn't go to a therapist because you run, but 479 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,200 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: at that point it was free therapy for me, and 480 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,570 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I learned so much about myself. I learned that 481 00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:32,730 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I was a lot stronger than I ever thought I 482 00:25:32,730 --> 00:25:35,700 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: was. But I also learned that there were a lot 483 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,609 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of things that I was dealing with or hadn't dealt 484 00:25:38,609 --> 00:25:42,480 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: with, and I realized that it was running that could help 485 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,220 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: me with that. And it felt like I had unlocked this secret 486 00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:49,649 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: little box with a bunch of tricks in it that the world 487 00:25:49,650 --> 00:25:52,890 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: wasn't telling people about. And I was like, if I 488 00:25:52,890 --> 00:25:55,800 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: didn't know about this, that means there's a bunch of 489 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,590 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: other people that don't know about this. And those people 490 00:25:58,590 --> 00:26:01,140 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: would benefit from knowing this because I know what 491 00:26:01,140 --> 00:26:03,600 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: this running thing did for me. It gave me cardio 492 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,130 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: confidence, and that cardio confidence is, that instills this belief 493 00:26:08,130 --> 00:26:10,650 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: in you that because I can get to the bottom 494 00:26:10,650 --> 00:26:13,679 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of the road, because I can accomplish anything that I 495 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,590 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: set my mind to in the running space, I can probably 496 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,250 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: do anything outside of the running space that I set 497 00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:22,710 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: my mind to. And I wanted to share that gift 498 00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:25,469 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: with other people, but I also wanted people to be 499 00:26:25,470 --> 00:26:29,730 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: aware that everything that you may know about running, everything 500 00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:32,129 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that you may have been told about running, I'm 501 00:26:32,130 --> 00:26:33,959 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: not saying it's not true, but you don't have to 502 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,210 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: be intimidated. You don't have to be scared. You don't 503 00:26:36,210 --> 00:26:38,220 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: have to think about running fast. You don't have to 504 00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:40,800 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: think about running far. You don't have to think about 505 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,189 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: perfect form, perfect gait, perfect kit, all these things that 506 00:26:44,190 --> 00:26:47,730 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: we're kind of told. Just get out there and just 507 00:26:47,730 --> 00:26:52,139 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: keep winning. And when you lose, put your hands up 508 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:53,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: in the air and be like, we're going to try 509 00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:57,000 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and win again. And that is what I wanted people 510 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,960 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to realize. Running can and will change your life if 511 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,570 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you believe in it, if you believe in yourself. And if 512 00:27:03,570 --> 00:27:06,419 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you don't believe in yourself, I'm here to help you 513 00:27:06,420 --> 00:27:09,359 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: believe in yourself. And that's what I always wanted to 514 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,810 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: do, it's like help people believe that they can achieve 515 00:27:12,810 --> 00:27:16,320 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: anything because that's a beautiful space to live in. And 516 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,060 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it just changes your life completely. 517 00:27:19,470 --> 00:27:24,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wow. Can we just stop the podcast right now? Is 518 00:27:24,030 --> 00:27:28,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: there anything left to say, ever, on a running podcast 519 00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:32,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: than that? Cory, you kind of just summed up 520 00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: everything we ever talk about at New York Road Runners 521 00:27:34,859 --> 00:27:37,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: in a beautiful way. So, we got to have you 522 00:27:37,980 --> 00:27:38,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: around more often, man. 523 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:40,951 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Okay, thank you, Rob. 524 00:27:40,951 --> 00:27:44,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: You're really good at talking about the transformative power of running, as we like to 525 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:47,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: say in New York Road Runners, it's pretty amazing. And 526 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: how has it transformed you? How are you different? This 527 00:27:51,930 --> 00:27:56,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: cardio confidence you talk about, obviously you're different as a 528 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: runner, you're different physically, your fitness level obviously has 529 00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:05,189 Rob Simmelkjaer: changed dramatically. Now you're running from LA to Vegas. You 530 00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:06,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: couldn't run down the street. 531 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,002 Becs Gentry: (inaudible) got nothing. 532 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:11,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: This is bananas, right? But how has it changed you, 533 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:15,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: the person? If I talk to the person you're closest 534 00:28:15,210 --> 00:28:17,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: to in your life, I don't know who that might 535 00:28:17,010 --> 00:28:21,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: be, Cory, your mother or partner or brother, whoever. How 536 00:28:21,420 --> 00:28:22,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: would they say it's changed you? 537 00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:31,379 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I would say I stand taller in who I 538 00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:37,200 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: am and I have less regard for the thoughts and 539 00:28:37,380 --> 00:28:42,180 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: feelings about me that aren't positive. I think that's the 540 00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:45,330 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: best way to articulate and synthesize it. And I guess 541 00:28:45,330 --> 00:28:48,570 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the long version of it is, running told me that I 542 00:28:48,570 --> 00:28:51,630 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: can do anything. And because running told me that I 543 00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:56,580 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: can do anything, I'm now going to do anything. It's 544 00:28:56,580 --> 00:28:59,700 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: changed the way that I look. Someone said to me the 545 00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:01,770 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: other day, because you obviously spend lots and lots 546 00:29:01,770 --> 00:29:04,590 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of time together in the van, we were looking through 547 00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:06,870 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: pictures of what we looked like 10 years ago, 15 548 00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:10,410 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: years ago, 20 years ago. And everyone sort of, not 549 00:29:10,410 --> 00:29:12,690 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: laughed, but yeah, we were laughing. They were like, " Dude, 550 00:29:12,690 --> 00:29:16,860 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you are 47 now. You look younger than when you did 551 00:29:16,860 --> 00:29:23,130 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: when you were 27." Because I was living poorly. Running 552 00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:26,880 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: has given me lots and lots of friends. I met 553 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: my wife there and it introduced me to a completely 554 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,510 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: different world. I always laugh with people and I say, " 555 00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:35,970 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Dude, before I started running, I'd never been to Shoreditch." 556 00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,180 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and they're like, " What do you mean you've never been to 557 00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:41,340 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Shoreditch?" And for those of you who don't know where Shoreditch 558 00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:44,580 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: is, it's this sort of hipster- y, cool, if you 559 00:29:44,580 --> 00:29:48,510 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: want to use that word, area in East London. And 560 00:29:48,510 --> 00:29:52,140 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: going there, I met all of these people who were 561 00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:55,110 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: runners or into running. They wouldn't even refer to themselves 562 00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:58,170 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: as runners at that time. And they just did all 563 00:29:58,170 --> 00:30:00,630 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of these things that I'd never heard of. And 564 00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:02,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I know that sounds really weird, but I used to 565 00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:04,320 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: work for the government, I used to work for the 566 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,580 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: public sector, I worked in youth centers, community organizations, and then I go and 567 00:30:08,580 --> 00:30:10,440 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: meet these people and I'm like, " Oh, what do you 568 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,810 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: do for a living?" And it's like, " Oh, I'm a videographer." And I was like, " A videographer? 569 00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:18,390 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: As in you hold a video camera and you video stuff?" 570 00:30:18,810 --> 00:30:21,510 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And they're like, " Yeah, I do that." You'd meet someone else and they're like, " 571 00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:24,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I'm a music producer. I paint pictures, I do all of 572 00:30:24,780 --> 00:30:27,000 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: these things." So I met all of these creative people and I was 573 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,780 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: like, hold on. I've been slogging for years and 574 00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:34,440 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I've met these people who appear with respect to not 575 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,500 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: really do anything, and you're paying for your house, you're 576 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,990 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: paying for your car, you're putting your kids through school. 577 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,290 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I was like, how come I haven't heard of any 578 00:30:43,290 --> 00:30:45,900 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of these things? Why did no one tell me there 579 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:49,830 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: was this life on the other side that I now 580 00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:52,470 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: have access to? And you meet other people and they 581 00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:56,280 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: show you about another world. And this sort of relatively 582 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,231 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: small focus that I had just expanded tenfold. And I was 583 00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:03,631 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: like, oh, I can actually- 584 00:31:03,631 --> 00:31:03,630 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: ... tenfold and I was like, oh, I can actually 585 00:31:04,140 --> 00:31:07,680 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: achieve even more than I thought I could have achieved. 586 00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:10,500 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And then when you just start talking to yourself like 587 00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:13,289 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that over and over and over again, now I'm like, so you want to go 588 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:18,810 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to Mars? Cool. When? Tuesday or Wednesday? And that's what changed. 589 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:19,681 Becs Gentry: Yep, that's how it goes. 590 00:31:19,681 --> 00:31:21,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wait, but I just want to say though, I've never been 591 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: to Shoreditch. I've never even heard of Shoreditch. Becks, when 592 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:30,001 Rob Simmelkjaer: were you going to tell me about Shoreditch? Shouldn't 593 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: I go hang out in Shoreditch when I'm in London 594 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:32,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: next time? 595 00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:33,720 Becs Gentry: Maybe. 596 00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:34,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: Am I hip enough? No? Maybe I'm not hip enough. 597 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:36,659 Becs Gentry: Once you have a discussion- 598 00:31:37,290 --> 00:31:37,380 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Oh, no, you are. 599 00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:44,729 Becs Gentry: ... with Kwesi you'll be fine. Okay. In the moment we're in 600 00:31:44,729 --> 00:31:48,390 Becs Gentry: of change and of meeting new people and of you coming from 601 00:31:48,390 --> 00:31:55,320 Becs Gentry: that, London, the social sector in London, heading into your 602 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,650 Becs Gentry: social sector. So, 2012, is that right, is when TrackMafia 603 00:31:58,890 --> 00:32:00,270 Becs Gentry: was founded? Around then? 604 00:32:00,270 --> 00:32:05,459 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes, yeah. So, 2012 was when we started RDC West, and 605 00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:13,290 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: then RDC West became TrackMafia probably two years after that. Maybe 606 00:32:13,290 --> 00:32:14,160 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: two years after that. 607 00:32:14,490 --> 00:32:19,739 Becs Gentry: So, RDC, for our listeners, rundown, crew, it was one of 608 00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:22,410 Becs Gentry: the biggest and probably one of the most formative run 609 00:32:22,410 --> 00:32:25,860 Becs Gentry: crews in London. Still to this day I think it's 610 00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:28,709 Becs Gentry: probably one of the first names that people think of 611 00:32:28,709 --> 00:32:30,811 Becs Gentry: when it comes to run crews in London. 612 00:32:30,811 --> 00:32:30,812 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Charlie Dark, my mentor. 613 00:32:30,812 --> 00:32:32,759 Becs Gentry: Sir Charlie Dark. 614 00:32:33,059 --> 00:32:33,600 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yeah, sorry. Sir Charlie Dark. 615 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:43,680 Becs Gentry: Sir Charlie Dark. Beautiful, beautiful human. And between he and 616 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,250 Becs Gentry: Cory, they really did change the landscape for runners in 617 00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:51,570 Becs Gentry: London and created a safe space for runners, whoever they 618 00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:53,640 Becs Gentry: were, wherever they were from, whether they were locals or 619 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,880 Becs Gentry: whether they were visiting, to come and move their bodies 620 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,860 Becs Gentry: and run. And it was a concept that today is 621 00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:01,500 Becs Gentry: now super fashionable and super cool, but back in 622 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:06,630 Becs Gentry: the early 2010s onwards was just life for us all in London, 623 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:09,930 Becs Gentry: is what we did. You took over Paddington Rec, which 624 00:33:09,930 --> 00:33:14,550 Becs Gentry: was an unusual place. It wasn't the Shoreditch rub. It 625 00:33:14,550 --> 00:33:15,901 Becs Gentry: was a very different- 626 00:33:15,901 --> 00:33:15,902 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: It's very different. 627 00:33:15,902 --> 00:33:20,130 Becs Gentry: ... other side of London. But it worked and it 628 00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:27,780 Becs Gentry: really was truly this unassuming park in London that didn't 629 00:33:27,780 --> 00:33:30,001 Becs Gentry: have the hipster cool vibe that Cory was talking 630 00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:33,600 Becs Gentry: about of Shoreditch, but it had a certain something. 631 00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:34,139 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Charm. 632 00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:42,330 Becs Gentry: Charm. Perfect. And your TrackMafia, the inner crew has always 633 00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:45,180 Becs Gentry: been the inner crew. It's like you really do have 634 00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:48,360 Becs Gentry: the core of the apple and it stayed together. 635 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,350 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes. 636 00:33:49,710 --> 00:33:52,230 Becs Gentry: Even though you're now in different countries, like I saw, 637 00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:56,250 Becs Gentry: I think it was on your or Jules's Instagram last week 638 00:33:56,250 --> 00:33:59,790 Becs Gentry: where I was like, " What is happening? Everyone's congregating at 639 00:33:59,850 --> 00:34:02,160 Becs Gentry: Cory's house." And then I just hadn't looked at 640 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,721 Becs Gentry: the date and was like, " Oh, Speed Project." 641 00:34:03,721 --> 00:34:03,722 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Exactly. 642 00:34:03,722 --> 00:34:07,410 Becs Gentry: But it's just what you've done. So, talk to us 643 00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:11,489 Becs Gentry: about like what is TrackMafia to you in your heart from 644 00:34:11,489 --> 00:34:12,029 Becs Gentry: then to today? 645 00:34:12,060 --> 00:34:17,549 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Oh, wow. Becks is trying to make me cry. TrackMafia 646 00:34:17,549 --> 00:34:25,290 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: is my real family. We bonded over miles and miles 647 00:34:25,290 --> 00:34:31,980 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and miles of just joy, pain, suffering, talking to 648 00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:35,910 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: each other. How it worked was we were obviously running 649 00:34:35,969 --> 00:34:39,239 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: RDC West and then TrackMafia was born. And TrackMafia was 650 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,030 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: born because I used to run at a run club 651 00:34:42,030 --> 00:34:44,969 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: called Dulwich Runners and I used to do track sessions 652 00:34:44,969 --> 00:34:48,840 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: there with the team and the coach there. And then 653 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,799 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: when we started RDC West and then TrackMafia, my now wife 654 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,200 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Jules, she used to do track and the other founder, 655 00:34:55,230 --> 00:34:58,080 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Jeggy, he used to do track. So, we were like, " 656 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Do you know what? My office is upstairs," or 657 00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:02,820 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: used to be upstairs from Paddington Rec. We're like, " There's 658 00:35:02,820 --> 00:35:05,160 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a track right there. Why don't we just go and do 659 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,830 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: track?" So, the three of us just started doing track. 660 00:35:08,250 --> 00:35:11,700 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And we were real running nerds, so we would geek 661 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:16,050 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: out on YouTube and just watch old running races, watch old- 662 00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:19,739 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: school Olympic workouts. And we were like, "We can do this, but just 663 00:35:19,739 --> 00:35:23,250 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: in a really small version." And the whole point of 664 00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:29,790 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it was to democratize track but also show people that 665 00:35:29,790 --> 00:35:32,190 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: speed isn't just for the fast. And I know 666 00:35:32,190 --> 00:35:36,149 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that sounds really weird, but loads of people believe that 667 00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:38,969 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: track is only for people who run fast. You only 668 00:35:38,969 --> 00:35:42,239 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: go to track if you're going to be running in 669 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,719 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: zone five, your VO2 max, where we wanted to switch 670 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,529 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that and basically say, " No. Running is a safe space 671 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,640 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: for you to experiment with your body." Now, when we 672 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,440 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: started doing track, we started doing ridiculous workouts and our 673 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,920 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: time started getting faster. And people noticed that and they were like, " 674 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,719 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: What are you lot doing over there at the track?" And 675 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,839 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I was like, " We're just doing 400- meter reps. We're doing 200- 676 00:36:06,839 --> 00:36:10,410 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: meter reps, maybe some 800- meter reps, but we're taking 677 00:36:10,410 --> 00:36:14,100 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it seriously." And we were the only group at the 678 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,460 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: time who weren't an old- school running club that were 679 00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:21,510 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: doing speed in the space that we existed. So, people 680 00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:23,640 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: were like, " What's this track thing? Isn't track scary?" And it 681 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,100 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: was like, " Yeah, track can be scary, but come and 682 00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:29,760 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: do it with a smile." So, we would run 400- 683 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,549 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: meter reps and be on the verge of throwing 684 00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:35,730 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: up, but we'd still be smiling. We'd still be happy. 685 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:39,450 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: We'd still be overjoyed. Then we would go on long 686 00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:42,600 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: three, four hour runs, the three of us, and we'd 687 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,890 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: just talk. And I've always said that running fast tracks 688 00:36:46,890 --> 00:36:49,620 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: friendship, because if you think about it, if you just 689 00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:52,650 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: look at how long you are running with someone and 690 00:36:52,650 --> 00:36:55,260 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: then try and spend that amount of time just socially, 691 00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:58,739 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you got one run, you've got to spend weeks or 692 00:36:58,739 --> 00:37:02,190 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: months, sometimes years with someone to get to know 693 00:37:02,190 --> 00:37:04,770 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: them that well. So, we just got to know each 694 00:37:04,770 --> 00:37:08,520 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: other really, really well. And that's how the friendship was 695 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,600 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: born. And then we just started bringing more people in, 696 00:37:12,989 --> 00:37:14,610 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and then all of a sudden, you've just got this 697 00:37:14,610 --> 00:37:17,790 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: amazing group of people all from different backgrounds with a 698 00:37:17,790 --> 00:37:20,580 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: bunch of different skill sets that just want to be 699 00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:23,819 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: around each other. And that's when we started telling stories, 700 00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:26,610 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: which is what wasn't happening at that particular point in 701 00:37:26,610 --> 00:37:30,000 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: time. That was what made us different. One, the fact 702 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,670 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that we were doing these hard track sessions, two, 703 00:37:33,060 --> 00:37:36,239 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: we were telling the stories. And back then, it wasn't 704 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,649 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: about the beautiful shot, the wonderful light. It was really lo- 705 00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:44,339 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: fi back then and it was about, how hurt do 706 00:37:44,339 --> 00:37:47,910 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I look right now? And I want to share this pain 707 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:50,430 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and anguish with people, but I also want to share 708 00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:53,370 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the joy that it has brought. And that's what used 709 00:37:53,370 --> 00:37:56,279 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to bring people to us. It was the balance between 710 00:37:56,580 --> 00:38:00,899 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: pain and suffering and joy and happiness, camaraderie with 711 00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:03,089 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: friends. And it's like, " They look like they're having fun. 712 00:38:03,630 --> 00:38:06,540 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: How are they having fun? I just saw the time 713 00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:09,420 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that they ran, but this... Okay, I'm going to go 714 00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:11,399 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and I'll see if I can have fun." And that 715 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,270 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: just snowballed. 716 00:38:13,050 --> 00:38:18,150 Becs Gentry: It really did. And all the friendliest people. And I will never forget 717 00:38:18,570 --> 00:38:22,680 Becs Gentry: Cynthia being the first person I ever was like, " That 718 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,910 Becs Gentry: girl runs with red lipstick on? That's so cool." And 719 00:38:26,910 --> 00:38:27,001 Becs Gentry: then the first time- 720 00:38:27,001 --> 00:38:27,002 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And she stills does. 721 00:38:27,002 --> 00:38:30,390 Becs Gentry: ... I went to Peloton and was like, " I'm channeling my 722 00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:32,700 Becs Gentry: inner Cynthia," when I wore red lipstick for the first 723 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:34,321 Becs Gentry: time. And to this day, if I wear- 724 00:38:34,321 --> 00:38:34,322 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Amazing. 725 00:38:34,321 --> 00:38:36,900 Becs Gentry: ... red lipstick, I think of Cynthia and I'm just like, " 726 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:40,710 Becs Gentry: It's so..." Yeah, it truly, I'm just trying to get 727 00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:43,530 Becs Gentry: across how wonderful all of it. They really, truly are. Even 728 00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:46,170 Becs Gentry: from an outsider who was never somebody who ran with 729 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,790 Becs Gentry: TrackMafia because I was always doing Nike things, but- 730 00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:53,580 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: The space was there for you. 731 00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:58,110 Becs Gentry: Exactly. But you always all held space when we were 732 00:38:58,110 --> 00:39:02,190 Becs Gentry: in other countries and other cities doing races together. 733 00:39:02,430 --> 00:39:04,710 Becs Gentry: I felt like I was part of the family, even 734 00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:07,440 Becs Gentry: though I was never essentially at the track meets all 735 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,910 Becs Gentry: the time. And that is something that definitely helped me 736 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,869 Becs Gentry: personally in running and falling in love with running. So, 737 00:39:15,869 --> 00:39:16,141 Becs Gentry: thank you, guys. 738 00:39:16,141 --> 00:39:20,370 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: No, thank you. And you're still always welcome at track as it 739 00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:23,550 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: still goes on. Even though we've moved, it's still there. 740 00:39:23,610 --> 00:39:24,029 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Thursday at 6:30. 741 00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:26,160 Becs Gentry: I'd definitely pull a hammy these days. 742 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: Guys, it sounds like so many of the run 743 00:39:31,469 --> 00:39:34,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: clubs we have in New York. We've got clubs, we've 744 00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:39,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: got crews, we've got super competitive, super social, a mix. 745 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: This really is so much a part of what has 746 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: driven this boom in running over the last several years 747 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: since the pandemic is all that you said, Cory, about 748 00:39:50,580 --> 00:39:52,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: the way it brings people together, the way you can 749 00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: connect with somebody over a run. I never thought of 750 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: it in the terms you put it and how much 751 00:39:56,850 --> 00:39:59,069 Rob Simmelkjaer: time you spend with someone on a long run and 752 00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:02,279 Rob Simmelkjaer: how many coffee dates you'd have to put together 753 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: to spend that much time with someone. You're right. An hour 754 00:40:05,489 --> 00:40:08,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: coffee is like, you got to do like 12 of those 755 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:11,819 Rob Simmelkjaer: to do a half- marathon or whatever, or a long, 756 00:40:11,820 --> 00:40:13,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: long run. So, it's a lot. It's a lot of 757 00:40:13,530 --> 00:40:16,319 Rob Simmelkjaer: time and it really does make an impact. Cory, I want 758 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: to talk about your music side too. So, you have 759 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: a bit of a background in the music world. You 760 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: are an MC for DJs and a lot of the 761 00:40:26,489 --> 00:40:30,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: electronic dance music superstars that are out there, that 762 00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:34,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: whole world. How does that relate to your running? I'm 763 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: curious, do you channel some of that? Do you- 764 00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:37,891 Becs Gentry: Can I answer that? 765 00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:38,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... listen to a lot of music when you run? 766 00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:43,920 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I want to hear what Becks is going to say because 767 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,641 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I most definitely do channel that on my runs. 768 00:40:47,641 --> 00:40:53,850 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh, no, you go for it. But trust me, he is the good vibes, the 769 00:40:53,850 --> 00:40:57,030 Becs Gentry: good energy, and he is the kind of... You think 770 00:40:57,030 --> 00:41:00,689 Becs Gentry: I don't shut up when you're running. I learned 771 00:41:00,689 --> 00:41:01,709 Becs Gentry: from him, put it that way. 772 00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:06,239 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: So, when I used to MC in clubs or on 773 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,319 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: radio over garage, house, drum and bass, all of that 774 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:17,160 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: music, you realize that you are the vibe controller. You 775 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,879 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: are the mood controller, and you have to lead with 776 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,150 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: your energy. And that's what I take to my running 777 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:27,390 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: space. I have to lead with my good energy and 778 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:30,689 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that's what will bring the crowd up. That's my 779 00:41:30,690 --> 00:41:36,120 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: job. My job is to dial into you personally and 780 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,400 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: as a group of people and help you have the 781 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,280 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: best time of your life in combination with the DJ. 782 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,179 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And it's the same thing when I speak to people 783 00:41:45,179 --> 00:41:48,179 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: about running. I sometimes explain it to them either like 784 00:41:48,179 --> 00:41:51,870 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a DJ set or an entire evening of raving. It's 785 00:41:51,870 --> 00:41:53,489 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: like when you get to the rave or when you 786 00:41:53,489 --> 00:41:56,489 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: look at the first DJ, the first DJ isn't always 787 00:41:56,489 --> 00:41:59,339 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: necessarily the best DJ of the night. It's the one 788 00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:02,250 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that's going to get you warm, but you still 789 00:42:02,250 --> 00:42:04,380 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: have to go to that set. So, you go to 790 00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:06,359 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that set and that first DJ is the one that 791 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: gets you nice and warm, gets you hyped. Then the DJs in 792 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:13,980 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the middle, the DJs in the middle, they're hit or miss. AKA, 793 00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:15,509 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you might have a good time, you might have a 794 00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:18,029 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: bad time, but you still have to stay committed to 795 00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:20,880 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that rave if you want to see the best DJ, 796 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,610 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: which is normally the last person who closes out. So, 797 00:42:23,610 --> 00:42:26,460 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you have to stay committed to that middle section. And 798 00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:28,679 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: then when you get to the end, it's going to 799 00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:30,719 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: be hard. It's going to be tired because you've 800 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: now been raving since midnight and it's now 6: 00 801 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:37,860 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: AM. But if you really love this DJ, you just 802 00:42:37,860 --> 00:42:40,080 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: got to keep raving. You just got to keep partying. 803 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,290 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: You just got to keep going. And that's how I 804 00:42:43,410 --> 00:42:45,569 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: look at it, that's how I still treat runs to 805 00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:51,120 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: this day. And because I'm a MC, anytime I'm out 806 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,308 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: on a run and I find my head drifting off 807 00:42:53,309 --> 00:42:55,590 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: into spaces that I may not necessarily want them to, 808 00:42:55,890 --> 00:42:58,290 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I'll just start spitting bars. And for people who don't 809 00:42:58,290 --> 00:43:01,125 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: understand spitting bars, I just mean I'll start freestyling 810 00:43:01,125 --> 00:43:03,630 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: about stuff. I'll talk about the rocks that are beside, 811 00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:07,800 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I'll talk about the pigeons, I'll talk about the darkness 812 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,620 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that's out there. It's just anything to take my mind 813 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:14,429 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: off of that particular space point in time right there. 814 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:17,190 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And that's what I share with people. I was like when you run, you've 815 00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:19,259 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: got two choices. You either live in it or you 816 00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:22,350 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: live outside of it. And depending on where you are, 817 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,890 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you have to make your choice. And I love living 818 00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:29,969 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: in it, because living in it, I get to process 819 00:43:29,969 --> 00:43:31,920 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a bunch of things that I may not necessarily have 820 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:37,140 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: processed. And it also teaches me that you can't control 821 00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:40,920 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: life, but what you can control is the stuff you can control. 822 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,489 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And that's how I react. I said a bunch of 823 00:43:44,489 --> 00:43:46,410 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: stuff there. I hope I answered the question. 824 00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:51,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: I loved it. Cory, this is a new metaphor for 825 00:43:51,690 --> 00:43:54,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: me. I have a lot of marathon and running metaphors, 826 00:43:54,929 --> 00:43:58,558 Rob Simmelkjaer: but I have not had the marathon rave metaphor before. 827 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: This is huge. You may be surprised to hear 828 00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:06,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: this, I don't go to a lot of raves, but 829 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: I know what a rave is. And the idea that it's that last DJ 830 00:44:11,309 --> 00:44:14,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: that you're holding out for and you do have to keep the 831 00:44:14,370 --> 00:44:18,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: vibe going that whole time, I totally see that. I 832 00:44:18,570 --> 00:44:20,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: totally get that. That's really cool. 833 00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:21,990 Becs Gentry: Really nice. 834 00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:23,851 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Thank you. 835 00:44:23,851 --> 00:44:26,700 Becs Gentry: I will attest to he does keep you going. He does. I have 836 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:30,001 Becs Gentry: this real memory of you on a beanbag in, 837 00:44:30,809 --> 00:44:33,750 Becs Gentry: it's either going to be Amsterdam or Berlin, I can't 838 00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:38,460 Becs Gentry: remember which city it was. We were exhausted. We were on 839 00:44:38,460 --> 00:44:41,070 Becs Gentry: a 90 tour of some sort and we'd been going 840 00:44:41,070 --> 00:44:45,660 Becs Gentry: for weeks. And Cory's just on this beanbag and he got 841 00:44:45,660 --> 00:44:47,880 Becs Gentry: his shoes off, and I can just see you, I 842 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,480 Becs Gentry: literally can just see you, and you just started singing. 843 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,100 Becs Gentry: And we were all flat in the room, and within 844 00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:59,550 Becs Gentry: minutes someone had a song on their phone and Cory's just 845 00:44:59,550 --> 00:45:02,879 Becs Gentry: singing and we're all up and we're like, " We've 846 00:45:02,969 --> 00:45:06,600 Becs Gentry: got this!" Just because he literally just probably had that 847 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,209 Becs Gentry: thought in his own brain of, " We got to get 848 00:45:09,209 --> 00:45:11,610 Becs Gentry: through this. We got to get to that last DJ." 849 00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:16,558 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And I actually built a class out of that. We 850 00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:19,680 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: used to call it Forge and it was all about 851 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:25,230 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: drum and bass music, which is anywhere between, I think 852 00:45:25,230 --> 00:45:30,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it's 175, 180, or 185 bpm. I can never remember. And it is fast. It's like bam, bam, bam. But it's the 853 00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:35,609 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: perfect pace for running drills. The perfect pace. So, I 854 00:45:35,610 --> 00:45:38,430 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: would do a full class anywhere between 45 minutes and 855 00:45:38,430 --> 00:45:41,910 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: an hour and it would just be hit and running 856 00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:47,850 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: drills. So, the drum and bass would be on, its like... And I would have people just going, " 857 00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:51,600 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: One, two, three, four. Now, give me high knees, high 858 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,640 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: knees, high knees, high knees. Now, give me a skip, 859 00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:56,430 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a skip, a skip." And people would come to the 860 00:45:56,430 --> 00:45:58,650 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: class and be like, " Dude, I hate running, I hate 861 00:45:58,650 --> 00:46:01,020 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: drills, I hate all of these things, but I like 862 00:46:01,020 --> 00:46:04,200 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: this music." And they would just come and they would do it. 863 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:08,850 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And I'd realize that if you just play some decent 864 00:46:08,850 --> 00:46:12,509 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: music, turn the lights off, and you're a nice person, 865 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,730 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: people will come and dance and work out even if 866 00:46:17,730 --> 00:46:19,860 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: they don't like working out because they're not coming to 867 00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:23,219 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: work out. You fooled them into believing that they're coming 868 00:46:23,219 --> 00:46:26,460 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to dance and it just so happens there might be 869 00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:29,399 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: some equipment in the area. And that's what I used 870 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,859 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to tell people. I fool people into working out 871 00:46:32,130 --> 00:46:34,860 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: by getting them to dance and do ridiculous things. 872 00:46:35,580 --> 00:46:38,969 Becs Gentry: Perfect. And that leads it on very nicely to talk 873 00:46:38,969 --> 00:46:42,089 Becs Gentry: about your incredible book that has just come out. 874 00:46:42,090 --> 00:46:44,641 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Ah, yes. All You Need is Rhythm and Grit. 875 00:46:44,641 --> 00:46:49,980 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh, this book. You can't quite see all 876 00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:53,969 Becs Gentry: of Cory right now, but Cory is a pink and 877 00:46:53,969 --> 00:46:58,500 Becs Gentry: blue guy in my mind. Yeah, from forever you've had 878 00:46:58,500 --> 00:46:59,221 Becs Gentry: pink and blue as your colors. 879 00:46:59,221 --> 00:46:59,371 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Always. 880 00:46:59,790 --> 00:47:03,030 Becs Gentry: And I just love the book. Just, it's straight 881 00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:05,279 Becs Gentry: up like, " That's Cory's book." That's Cory's book. 882 00:47:07,170 --> 00:47:11,610 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: When they showed me that design, I was like, " Wow." 883 00:47:12,270 --> 00:47:19,980 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Because Cindy, which is my publisher, she just messaged me 884 00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:21,419 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and she was like, " Oh, Cory, what do you want your book 885 00:47:21,420 --> 00:47:26,160 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: cover to look like?" And I said to her, "I don't know." I was like, " Anything but 886 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,980 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: this." I don't want a- 887 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,441 Becs Gentry: Didn't want a closeup. 888 00:47:31,441 --> 00:47:33,150 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yeah, I didn't want a portrait of me leaning in. 889 00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:36,570 Becs Gentry: Awkwardly in a suit, in a linen suit. 890 00:47:36,570 --> 00:47:39,840 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yeah. I didn't want that. And she was like, " We've got a 891 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,560 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: few ideas. The designer has worked on this. Let me 892 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,690 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: know what you think of this." And when she sent me the PDF, 893 00:47:47,219 --> 00:47:52,140 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I was blown away. I was like, " This is me. 894 00:47:52,890 --> 00:47:58,980 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: The artist has literally captured me in color. You fully 895 00:47:58,980 --> 00:48:06,600 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: understood the assignment." I was overjoyed. And to be able to write 896 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,369 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a book, like what? From where I started about this 897 00:48:11,369 --> 00:48:16,770 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: thing that I found, it's still unbelievable. As a child,, 898 00:48:16,770 --> 00:48:18,900 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you have these pipe dreams. I'm like, " Oh yeah, I'd 899 00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:21,118 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: love to write a book." And when people are like, " About 900 00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,640 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: what?" I was like, "I don't know. It's just a pretty cool thing to 901 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,320 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: do." But then when I was given the opportunity to 902 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,830 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: do that, I was like, " This is unbelievable." And 903 00:48:32,219 --> 00:48:35,670 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I'm going to share my story because I think people 904 00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:38,489 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: not necessarily need to know my story, and that's the 905 00:48:38,489 --> 00:48:43,319 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: thing, even though the book is about me, it's not 906 00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:47,400 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: about me. It's about people like me, and those are 907 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,739 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: people who in the beginning didn't necessarily believe too much 908 00:48:52,739 --> 00:48:56,010 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: in themselves. They weren't really happy in their skin, but 909 00:48:56,010 --> 00:49:00,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: there was just something that you couldn't quite put 910 00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:03,630 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: your finger on. And I couldn't put my finger on 911 00:49:03,630 --> 00:49:07,049 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it until running. When I found running, I realized how 912 00:49:07,050 --> 00:49:09,419 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: unhappy I was, and I wanted to share that. And 913 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,080 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it was unhappy about how I looked, unhappy about my 914 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,129 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: weight, unhappy about where I was in life. And you 915 00:49:17,130 --> 00:49:22,410 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: spend hours with yourself, you can't but explore that. And that's 916 00:49:22,410 --> 00:49:25,469 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: what I wanted to share with people, that if you 917 00:49:25,469 --> 00:49:28,500 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: choose to, I guess, give yourself to the road or 918 00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:31,500 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: give yourself to the trails, it will give you 919 00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:36,330 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: back in tenfold. And that's what the book is about. 920 00:49:36,690 --> 00:49:40,260 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: The book is about community. How I describe it is 921 00:49:40,260 --> 00:49:44,310 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it's a love letter to running and to myself, thanking 922 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,880 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the running gods for blessing me and giving me an 923 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,630 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: opportunity to bless my family, my community, with some of 924 00:49:51,630 --> 00:49:54,239 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the lessons that I've learned that have changed my life. And 925 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,790 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it's changed a bunch of other people's lives. And that's 926 00:49:56,790 --> 00:50:00,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: not on me. That's on them. I just shone 927 00:50:00,660 --> 00:50:04,890 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the torch down into the cave and I was like, " Look in 928 00:50:04,890 --> 00:50:07,950 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: there. You can go in there if you want." And 929 00:50:07,950 --> 00:50:14,130 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: many people have chosen to. The book is about saying 930 00:50:14,130 --> 00:50:19,050 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: running is really hard, but you'll learn a lot if 931 00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:21,119 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you engage. 932 00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:25,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: Amazing. Love it. The book is called All You Need 933 00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:29,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: is Rhythm and Grit. I love everything you just said 934 00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:32,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: about it, so got to pick that up. Got 935 00:50:32,190 --> 00:50:35,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: to check it out. Another thing that folks can check 936 00:50:35,790 --> 00:50:37,979 Rob Simmelkjaer: out that you're a part of, Cory, is your role 937 00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:39,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: with Apple and Apple Fitness+. 938 00:50:39,810 --> 00:50:39,960 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes. 939 00:50:41,820 --> 00:50:45,719 Rob Simmelkjaer: This must be the culmination for you of all of 940 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: this journey you've had, now you are part of a 941 00:50:49,890 --> 00:50:52,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: fitness and running product, which is incredible. 942 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:53,490 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Which is. 943 00:50:54,210 --> 00:50:54,211 Rob Simmelkjaer: Right? 944 00:50:54,211 --> 00:50:54,571 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: It's unbelievable. 945 00:50:54,810 --> 00:50:58,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: You must pinch yourself sometimes and be like, " Now, I'm 946 00:50:58,290 --> 00:51:01,618 Rob Simmelkjaer: here? I'm bringing other people to this." Talk about 947 00:51:01,619 --> 00:51:06,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: what you do for Apple Fitness+ and what that experience 948 00:51:06,030 --> 00:51:06,359 Rob Simmelkjaer: is like. 949 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,469 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: So, I say to people, Becks, we might battle about 950 00:51:10,469 --> 00:51:13,859 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: this, but I say to people, " I have the best job 951 00:51:13,890 --> 00:51:16,200 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: in the world." And the reason why I say I 952 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,390 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: have the best job in the world is I predominantly 953 00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:21,509 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: work on something called Time to Run. And Time to 954 00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:27,750 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Run is a immersive audio- guided experience where the whole 955 00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:30,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: point of it is to transport people on their 956 00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,719 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: daily runs to a completely different location. So, my job 957 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,960 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: is to literally pick a location, go to that location, 958 00:51:37,530 --> 00:51:41,100 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: pick a route, run that route, take beautiful pictures that 959 00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:45,479 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: show up on people's Apple watches and their phones, and 960 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,970 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: guide them through a workout. And I get to play 961 00:51:48,690 --> 00:51:52,050 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the music that I'd like to as well. So, I'm 962 00:51:52,050 --> 00:51:54,540 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: like, hold on, I've taken all of the things that 963 00:51:54,540 --> 00:51:57,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I've been incredibly passionate about over the past couple of 964 00:51:57,660 --> 00:52:00,750 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: decades and I now get paid to do it 965 00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:04,890 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: in sunny Los Angeles. Every morning I wake up and 966 00:52:04,890 --> 00:52:08,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I'm like, " How is this possible? How are we here?" 967 00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:12,689 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: But we are here. So, I do that as part 968 00:52:12,690 --> 00:52:14,879 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of my role. And then as you said, the other 969 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,960 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: part of the role for Fitness+ is working in online 970 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,700 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: workouts. So, I am either a modifier in workouts, so 971 00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:30,690 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I will do yoga, strength, rowing, core, treadmill, cycling, all 972 00:52:30,690 --> 00:52:35,010 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of those things. I basically work out and write and 973 00:52:35,489 --> 00:52:39,270 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: play music for a living and get to speak to, 974 00:52:39,570 --> 00:52:42,359 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: whether it's, I have no ideas about any figures, but 975 00:52:42,359 --> 00:52:45,569 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it's hundreds of thousands or millions of people I get 976 00:52:45,570 --> 00:52:49,440 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to speak to. And I'm like, " How is this happening?" 977 00:52:50,489 --> 00:52:53,430 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: 20 years ago, I couldn't run to the bottom of 978 00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:57,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the road, and now I'm telling people in countries all 979 00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:00,001 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: over the world how to get to the bottom 980 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:09,210 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of the road. I still pinch myself. I still pinch 981 00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:15,390 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: myself that I'm surrounded by such amazing people that many 982 00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:17,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: years ago I would've paid lots and lots of money 983 00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:22,859 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: just to talk to, just to learn from. And now, I get to sit 984 00:53:22,859 --> 00:53:25,200 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: with these people and have coffee with them every morning and 985 00:53:25,469 --> 00:53:30,690 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: tap their brains. I've recently gone on another journey 986 00:53:30,690 --> 00:53:35,640 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: myself. Basically, I was supposed to run Berlin Marathon in 987 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,020 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: September and I was injured. And I watched all of 988 00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:45,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: my friends run Berlin Marathon and I was like, " I'm 989 00:53:45,660 --> 00:53:47,759 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: not missing this again next year, so I'm going to 990 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,590 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: start training now a year out." And because I obviously 991 00:53:52,590 --> 00:53:54,779 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: work for Fitness+, I was like, " I'm just going to 992 00:53:54,780 --> 00:53:57,029 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: set up a program on Fitness+ and I'm going to 993 00:53:57,030 --> 00:54:00,001 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: do a strength and yoga workout every single day. 994 00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:05,339 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Maybe I'll do a Pilates workout." And just Fitness+, and obviously monitoring 995 00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:09,480 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: my nutrition, I dropped 40 pounds in three months so 996 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,730 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that I could begin my running cycle proper at the 997 00:54:14,730 --> 00:54:17,399 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: beginning of the year in January. And obviously, I knew 998 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,459 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that Speed Project was coming up and I was like, " 999 00:54:20,460 --> 00:54:22,830 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: You know what? I need to get back down to 1000 00:54:22,830 --> 00:54:26,910 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: race weight." Because I'd actually snuck back up for the 1001 00:54:26,910 --> 00:54:30,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: first time to quite a weight that I didn't 1002 00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:33,900 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: want to be at. And because of the book, All 1003 00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:37,469 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: You Need is Rhythm and Grit, I just remembered everything that I 1004 00:54:37,469 --> 00:54:39,840 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: had done previously and I was like, " All I'm going 1005 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,219 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to do now is I'm going to do everything that 1006 00:54:41,219 --> 00:54:43,350 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I've done before, but now I have access to Fitness+, so 1007 00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:46,469 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I don't necessarily have to go to a class." So, 1008 00:54:46,469 --> 00:54:48,000 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I'd wake up in the morning and I'd put on 1009 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,210 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: my teammates. So, there's a yoga workout that I've done, 1010 00:54:51,210 --> 00:54:54,810 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I think, 112 times because I would do it every 1011 00:54:54,810 --> 00:54:58,710 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: morning to stretch my hammies or my quads or my 1012 00:54:58,710 --> 00:55:01,260 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: back or wherever, and then I'd do a strength 1013 00:55:01,260 --> 00:55:03,299 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: workout, then I'd go and do a cycling work and then 1014 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:09,810 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a treadmill workout. And it's just easy. It just changed 1015 00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:16,920 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: my life. So yeah, that's all. It's just amazing. 1016 00:55:17,310 --> 00:55:17,461 Becs Gentry: It really is. 1017 00:55:17,460 --> 00:55:17,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: What a journey. 1018 00:55:18,690 --> 00:55:20,549 Becs Gentry: I'm not going to batter you because I think no 1019 00:55:20,550 --> 00:55:24,300 Becs Gentry: matter what the companies we both work for are called, 1020 00:55:25,739 --> 00:55:30,840 Becs Gentry: we do the same thing essentially. And so we 1021 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,469 Becs Gentry: absolutely do have the best jobs in the world that 1022 00:55:34,469 --> 00:55:39,540 Becs Gentry: we get to help people and ourselves move their bodies, 1023 00:55:39,810 --> 00:55:45,089 Becs Gentry: feel grace and happiness, hopefully, on the journey, for want 1024 00:55:45,090 --> 00:55:48,239 Becs Gentry: of a better word, that we can be part of, 1025 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,460 Becs Gentry: which is just nuts that we get to be part 1026 00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:54,780 Becs Gentry: of these millions of different journeys that are happening simultaneously, 1027 00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:56,130 Becs Gentry: but we also have no idea. 1028 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,320 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes. That's the hard part. 1029 00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,009 Becs Gentry: Yeah. 1030 00:55:59,670 --> 00:56:01,469 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: That's the hard part. That, for me, is the 1031 00:56:01,469 --> 00:56:06,540 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: hardest part, not knowing as in... Because I've gone from 1032 00:56:06,540 --> 00:56:10,020 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: standing in the rain with an umbrella, a clipboard, and 1033 00:56:10,020 --> 00:56:10,560 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a whistle- 1034 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:10,561 Becs Gentry: To a coach. 1035 00:56:10,561 --> 00:56:15,209 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yeah. And you see change week after week after week 1036 00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:19,350 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: right in front of you, right there, but then when 1037 00:56:19,350 --> 00:56:24,540 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you're in a predominantly digital space, you don't necessarily get 1038 00:56:24,540 --> 00:56:29,130 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to, I guess, be as close to that change. But 1039 00:56:29,130 --> 00:56:32,160 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: when you're trackside or when you're roadside, when you're 1040 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,910 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: on the trails, you only get access to those 20 1041 00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:38,850 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: people or to those 30 people, 40 people, or some of 1042 00:56:38,850 --> 00:56:41,730 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: these running clubs or crews now 100 people or 1, 000 1043 00:56:41,730 --> 00:56:45,119 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: people. You can't have 1, 000 connections at once. So, let's 1044 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:48,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: just say you've got 30 people whereby all of these 1045 00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:51,930 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: online platforms, and as Beck says, regardless of what platform 1046 00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:55,080 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: it is that you work for, all of these people 1047 00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:59,489 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you're helping. You'll get emails. You'll get text messages. You'll 1048 00:56:59,489 --> 00:57:03,239 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: get DMs, and it's just people that you wouldn't 1049 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: even think of. And some of these stories that we 1050 00:57:05,940 --> 00:57:11,759 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: get from Fitness+ are unbelievable. It's like, " I was suffering 1051 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,450 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: from this, but through your workouts, it's made me realize 1052 00:57:15,450 --> 00:57:17,730 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that I can do more. And I've changed my life. 1053 00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:20,700 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And now, I've got my daughter into running, my son 1054 00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:23,490 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: into running. My whole family's into running. And now, we've 1055 00:57:23,490 --> 00:57:26,520 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: changed our nutrition. Now, we go to different places on 1056 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,000 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: holiday." And that's just from listening to my voice or 1057 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,280 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to your voice or to someone else's voice, or 1058 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:40,080 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: seeing that embodiment. It's just beautiful how much change we 1059 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,880 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: can be part of. And not for selfish reasons. It's more like 1060 00:57:45,660 --> 00:57:49,080 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: what you do feeds me. And that's what I love, 1061 00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:52,680 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: just seeing all of that positivity out there, just seeing 1062 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,850 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: someone smiling. There was one audio- guided run that I did 1063 00:57:56,850 --> 00:57:59,430 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: in dc DC, so we went to DC, we ran the 1064 00:57:59,430 --> 00:58:03,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: route, et cetera. It's actually happening in Puerto Rico 1065 00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:07,440 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: as well, where people take the pictures that I have 1066 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,430 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: taken, they go to the location, they run the route, 1067 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,890 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and then they take the pictures in the same place, 1068 00:58:14,130 --> 00:58:16,859 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: but they'll Photoshop themselves in to make it look like 1069 00:58:16,859 --> 00:58:19,440 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: we did it together. And I'm like, " This is wild." 1070 00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:20,701 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: This is how committed- 1071 00:58:20,701 --> 00:58:20,702 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wow. 1072 00:58:20,702 --> 00:58:20,703 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: ... these people- 1073 00:58:20,703 --> 00:58:20,704 Becs Gentry: That's so cool. 1074 00:58:20,704 --> 00:58:29,640 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: ... are to remapping what we did. Look at my face. 1075 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,609 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I'm just smiling. I'm like, this is ridiculous. 1076 00:58:32,850 --> 00:58:35,490 Becs Gentry: But that's because you created that connection for them, and 1077 00:58:36,330 --> 00:58:39,840 Becs Gentry: that's their way of feeling the gratitude towards you showing 1078 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,030 Becs Gentry: it and just understanding that this guy, because you did 1079 00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:46,170 Becs Gentry: it, they did it. 1080 00:58:46,650 --> 00:58:47,220 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yeah. 1081 00:58:47,580 --> 00:58:48,540 Becs Gentry: It's so beautiful. 1082 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yeah, it's beautiful. 1083 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, Cory, I could talk to you all day. It's just- 1084 00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:59,610 Becs Gentry: Wait, I want to know one more thing, though- 1085 00:58:59,610 --> 00:58:59,611 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yep. 1086 00:58:59,611 --> 00:58:59,612 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yeah, please. 1087 00:58:59,612 --> 00:58:59,883 Becs Gentry: ... about connection. 1088 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yep. 1089 00:59:01,590 --> 00:59:01,591 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Go ahead. 1090 00:59:01,591 --> 00:59:03,450 Becs Gentry: Are your mom and your sister still running? 1091 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:04,800 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Oh, yes, yeah. 1092 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:04,801 Becs Gentry: Yeah! 1093 00:59:04,801 --> 00:59:13,260 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: So, it's funny, my mum actually, so she started running... 1094 00:59:13,950 --> 00:59:17,010 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Let me start from the beginning. She started walking, and 1095 00:59:17,010 --> 00:59:19,710 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: then when she saw that I was running, she was 1096 00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:23,070 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: like, "Do you think I can run too?" And I was like, " You saw me 1097 00:59:23,070 --> 00:59:26,310 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: when I started running, right?" And then we both laughed 1098 00:59:26,820 --> 00:59:30,001 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and she was like, " I can do it. I can run." 1099 00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:34,140 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: So, we just started going for walks and then going 1100 00:59:34,140 --> 00:59:39,060 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: for runs. And then the old- school phrase, " Teach one, 1101 00:59:39,060 --> 00:59:42,420 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: teach one." And I might have changed that, but that's 1102 00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:45,750 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: what she did. I showed her how to run, and 1103 00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:48,780 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: then she just gathered her own group and they started 1104 00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:51,930 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: going for runs. They started going for walks. And my 1105 00:59:51,930 --> 00:59:54,090 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: mom would come and cheer me on at cross country. 1106 00:59:54,090 --> 00:59:57,540 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: She would cheer me on when I would do 5Ks, 10Ks, half- 1107 00:59:57,540 --> 01:00:00,001 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: marathons, marathons, and then she signed up for races 1108 01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:03,420 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: without me even knowing that she was signing up for 1109 01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:06,120 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: these races. So, she signed up for a race in 1110 01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:11,010 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Paris at a, what's it called? At an adventure park. I 1111 01:00:11,010 --> 01:00:12,630 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: don't even know if we're allowed to say the name, 1112 01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:15,900 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: but she went there to Paris. There's one in Orlando 1113 01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:16,231 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and other places. 1114 01:00:16,231 --> 01:00:16,232 Rob Simmelkjaer: Disney. 1115 01:00:16,232 --> 01:00:16,233 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And she did this- 1116 01:00:16,233 --> 01:00:16,234 Becs Gentry: The Disney, yeah. 1117 01:00:16,234 --> 01:00:16,235 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Disney. The Disney race. 1118 01:00:16,235 --> 01:00:16,236 Becs Gentry: The Disney challenges. 1119 01:00:16,236 --> 01:00:16,237 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I didn't know if I could say it. 1120 01:00:16,237 --> 01:00:16,238 Rob Simmelkjaer: Of course. 1121 01:00:16,238 --> 01:00:26,550 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: The Disney race. So, she did the 5K, the 10K, and 1122 01:00:26,550 --> 01:00:27,330 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: the half- marathon. 1123 01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:29,280 Becs Gentry: Wow, she did the whole Dopey Challenge. 1124 01:00:29,610 --> 01:00:30,750 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: She did the whole challenge. 1125 01:00:30,750 --> 01:00:30,810 Becs Gentry: Whoa. 1126 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,620 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: But this is the best part. Our dear friend Paula 1127 01:00:34,620 --> 01:00:37,830 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Radcliffe, she was at the finish line. And obviously, we've 1128 01:00:37,830 --> 01:00:39,750 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: done a lot of work with Paula and my mum 1129 01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:42,690 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: has met Paula, so my mum is stood at the 1130 01:00:42,690 --> 01:00:47,400 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: finish line waving and screaming at Paula Radcliffe. " Go ahead, do you 1131 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,720 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: remember me? I'm Cory's mum." Paula then invites her up 1132 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,570 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: onto the little bus on the finish line, and her 1133 01:00:54,570 --> 01:00:57,720 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and Paula Radcliffe are taking selfies and my mum is sending them 1134 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,360 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to me. And I'm like, " Mum." I'm like, " Lynn, what are 1135 01:01:00,990 --> 01:01:05,250 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you doing? Why?" " No, it's Paula. She's fine." That's how 1136 01:01:05,250 --> 01:01:08,190 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: deep my mum got into the running. And then I 1137 01:01:08,190 --> 01:01:11,220 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: obviously bought her an Apple Watch, and now she's addicted 1138 01:01:11,220 --> 01:01:13,530 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to that thing. She wants to close her rings every 1139 01:01:13,530 --> 01:01:15,090 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: day. She wants to go for a walk. 1140 01:01:15,690 --> 01:01:15,810 Becs Gentry: Great. 1141 01:01:15,810 --> 01:01:19,080 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And she wants to share activity. She's like, "Is the new 1142 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,300 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: one out? When can I get that? I hear there's 1143 01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:24,390 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: this new strap." The other day, like she chipped it. 1144 01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:26,940 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: She said, " Oh, will it still work if it's chipped? 1145 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,890 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Can you get me another one?" And I also 1146 01:01:31,890 --> 01:01:33,990 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: bought her one of the little Apple TVs, so she 1147 01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:37,440 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: now attempts to do the workouts. And when I say attempts 1148 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to do the workout, she'll put it on and she'll 1149 01:01:39,660 --> 01:01:41,490 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: have it in the background and she'll do a couple 1150 01:01:41,490 --> 01:01:42,060 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: of the moves. 1151 01:01:42,540 --> 01:01:43,920 Becs Gentry: That's fine. She's moving. 1152 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:44,340 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Exactly. 1153 01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:47,940 Becs Gentry: She's moving. She's engaging and she's moving. 1154 01:01:48,030 --> 01:01:48,720 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Exactly. 1155 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,350 Becs Gentry: That is beautiful. Wow, Lynn. 1156 01:01:52,350 --> 01:01:52,561 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: See, you even remember her name. 1157 01:01:52,561 --> 01:01:52,562 Rob Simmelkjaer: Aw. 1158 01:01:52,561 --> 01:01:57,300 Becs Gentry: Well, she came to a lot of Nike events. 1159 01:01:57,330 --> 01:01:57,570 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Exactly. 1160 01:01:57,570 --> 01:01:59,640 Becs Gentry: We got to know her. She'd always bring us food too. 1161 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,491 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: So, that is also a thing. Sorry, Rob. That's 1162 01:02:02,820 --> 01:02:03,811 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: also a thing. I- 1163 01:02:00,241 --> 01:02:03,180 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: So that is also a thing. Sorry, Rob. That's also 1164 01:02:03,181 --> 01:02:05,100 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: a thing. At all of the events that we used 1165 01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:07,170 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: to organize, I always used to try and make sure 1166 01:02:07,170 --> 01:02:09,390 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that it was full circle, so it was a running event 1167 01:02:09,390 --> 01:02:12,119 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: and my mom would cook all of the food. So 1168 01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:15,390 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: you would have these ridiculous running event, and then my 1169 01:02:15,390 --> 01:02:17,550 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: mom would come in and cook like rice and peas, 1170 01:02:17,550 --> 01:02:21,660 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: jerk chicken curry chicken, roti, all the West Indian food. 1171 01:02:21,660 --> 01:02:21,811 Becs: And roti. 1172 01:02:21,811 --> 01:02:22,200 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And roti. 1173 01:02:25,230 --> 01:02:27,210 Becs: And people would be like, " Dude, what is this? Do 1174 01:02:27,210 --> 01:02:28,590 Becs: I have to pay for this?" And I'm like, " No, 1175 01:02:28,770 --> 01:02:30,960 Becs: this is our way of giving back my friend. 1176 01:02:31,740 --> 01:02:38,790 Becs: Eat, be merry, be happy." And yeah, that's what we 1177 01:02:38,790 --> 01:02:39,330 Becs: used to do. 1178 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: So cool. And you influence people all over the world, 1179 01:02:44,340 --> 01:02:49,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: but when it's your mom, that's where it's at. That's where it's at. 1180 01:02:51,300 --> 01:02:53,400 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: One more thing about my mom. We did a Kevin 1181 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,201 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Hart run and she was the person- 1182 01:02:55,201 --> 01:02:55,291 Becs: She will never forget that. 1183 01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,001 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Never forget Kevin Hart running towards my mom to 1184 01:03:00,060 --> 01:03:02,610 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: try and help her. " That's your mom. That's your mom." 1185 01:03:02,970 --> 01:03:04,620 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I'm like, " Yeah, that's my mom, Kevin." 1186 01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:05,101 Becs: That's superb. 1187 01:03:05,101 --> 01:03:13,410 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: And I'm like, " Why are you making a scene?" Me and Becs are running 1188 01:03:13,410 --> 01:03:17,550 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: this thing and you have to take the limelight." 1189 01:03:17,940 --> 01:03:18,960 Becs: She took it, she was fine. 1190 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,430 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I'm like, "You're a ridiculous person." But that's why I'm a ridiculous 1191 01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:26,369 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: person. So I have to thank my mom for making 1192 01:03:26,369 --> 01:03:27,330 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: me who I am. 1193 01:03:27,780 --> 01:03:29,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: That sounded just like Kevin Hart, by the way. I totally see that. 1194 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: Could totally see Kevin Hart doing that. 1195 01:03:33,540 --> 01:03:37,080 Becs: I can. I can snowball from Secret Life of Pets because 1196 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,550 Becs: I have a two- year- old who is addicted to 1197 01:03:38,550 --> 01:03:40,380 Becs: watching it and Kevin Hart is the voice of Snowball 1198 01:03:40,380 --> 01:03:41,701 Becs: the rabbit. But yeah. 1199 01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:41,880 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: He's hilarious. Please. 1200 01:03:45,030 --> 01:03:45,660 Becs: He's brilliant. 1201 01:03:46,890 --> 01:03:47,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. 1202 01:03:47,550 --> 01:03:47,551 Becs: So good. Well, Cory- 1203 01:03:47,551 --> 01:03:54,419 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well Cory, you are ridiculously inspiring. It's unbelievable everything that you are 1204 01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:58,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: doing and just phenomenal having a chance to talk to 1205 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: you. Congratulations on the runs, on the book, on 1206 01:04:02,310 --> 01:04:05,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Apple Fitness Plus and everything else you're doing. And 1207 01:04:06,570 --> 01:04:07,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: when are we going to see you in New York? 1208 01:04:07,830 --> 01:04:10,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: You got to get to New York for a race. When 1209 01:04:10,110 --> 01:04:10,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: are we going to see you here? 1210 01:04:11,610 --> 01:04:13,800 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Dude, I have been coming to New York for the 1211 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,970 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: New York Marathon every year. Probably, I think I've missed 1212 01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:21,360 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: two years in the last decade or so. I'm always 1213 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,370 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: there cheering or taking photographs or just hanging out because 1214 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,780 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: we haven't spoken about the BTG movement. But the 1215 01:04:30,780 --> 01:04:33,630 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: whole reason I was able to meet all of these 1216 01:04:33,630 --> 01:04:36,389 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: things was because Mike Safe started it in New York. 1217 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,380 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: So I'm always in New York giving back to that 1218 01:04:40,380 --> 01:04:44,010 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: community. I'm always up there with Hector and Rue Crew, 1219 01:04:44,730 --> 01:04:48,990 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Safe and Bridge Runners. Weirdly enough, New York is my 1220 01:04:48,990 --> 01:04:51,570 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: second home. I can land in New York tomorrow and 1221 01:04:51,570 --> 01:04:56,400 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: be like, " Yo, I've arrived." And they'll be like, "Come to this burger spot, come to this place, come to 1222 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,030 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: that place." 1223 01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,550 Becs: And he is the guy in the middle of the 1224 01:04:59,550 --> 01:05:02,700 Becs: course up there too. I mean, there was no way Cory was 1225 01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:04,201 Becs: not letting me know that he was right there. 1226 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:04,202 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I was like, "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah." 1227 01:05:04,201 --> 01:05:04,202 Becs: Camera confetti. 1228 01:05:04,202 --> 01:05:04,651 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: I was screaming. 1229 01:05:04,651 --> 01:05:15,000 Becs: Yeah, that crew is the best on race day. It's 1230 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:15,810 Becs: such a great area. 1231 01:05:15,810 --> 01:05:17,639 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, well we got to make sure we connect 1232 01:05:17,639 --> 01:05:18,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: with you this year. 1233 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:18,961 Becs: Yes. 1234 01:05:18,961 --> 01:05:19,050 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Oh, definitely. 1235 01:05:19,050 --> 01:05:19,681 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hopefully you'll be back. 1236 01:05:19,681 --> 01:05:20,461 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Yes, I will. 1237 01:05:20,820 --> 01:05:24,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: And love to have you show up at some things 1238 01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:25,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: and just get you- 1239 01:05:25,050 --> 01:05:25,501 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Dude, definitely. 1240 01:05:25,501 --> 01:05:27,389 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... up and in front of some people because- 1241 01:05:27,419 --> 01:05:27,420 Becs: 100%. 1242 01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:30,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... it's so great listening to you and hearing your 1243 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: story. So let's get you out there, even more 1244 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,721 Rob Simmelkjaer: in New York this year. 1245 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:33,900 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Oh, amazing. 1246 01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:34,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: I would love to do that. 1247 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,000 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Thank you, Rob. Thank you Becs. 1248 01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:41,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: Absolutely. Cory Wharton- Malcolm, amazing conversation, amazing guy. Thank you 1249 01:05:41,550 --> 01:05:43,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: so much for being with us today. I appreciate you. 1250 01:05:43,770 --> 01:05:45,720 Cory Wharton-Malcolm: Thank you for having me. Such a pleasure. 1251 01:05:58,590 --> 01:06:01,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Roadrunners is a nonprofit organization with a 1252 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: vision to build healthier lives and stronger communities through the 1253 01:06:05,070 --> 01:06:09,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: transformative power of running. The support of members and donors 1254 01:06:09,150 --> 01:06:12,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: like you helps us achieve our mission to transform the 1255 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: health and well- being of our communities through inclusive and 1256 01:06:15,630 --> 01:06:20,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: accessible running experiences, empowering all to achieve their potential. Learn 1257 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: more and contribute at NYRR. org/ donate. 1258 01:06:25,110 --> 01:06:30,000 Becs: All right, one of today's guests is somebody very, very 1259 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,860 Becs: important in my world. He's a fantastic father, he's 1260 01:06:34,860 --> 01:06:38,850 Becs: a pretty darn good athlete all around, and he is here 1261 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,390 Becs: for a second time on Set the Pace today. It 1262 01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:43,739 Becs: is Mr. Austin Curtis. 1263 01:06:43,739 --> 01:06:46,500 Austin: Thank you for having me back. 1264 01:06:47,940 --> 01:06:50,279 Becs: Well this time you get the duo, you actually get 1265 01:06:50,279 --> 01:06:54,450 Becs: Rob and myself here to talk to you about all 1266 01:06:54,450 --> 01:06:56,940 Becs: things running. But thank you for coming back. 1267 01:06:57,390 --> 01:06:59,550 Austin: We weren't too bad last time. I don't think we need 1268 01:06:59,550 --> 01:07:01,920 Austin: a mediator, but it's nice to have Rob on. 1269 01:07:03,210 --> 01:07:07,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: We're not going to do therapy here. We're just going to talk about running. Hello 1270 01:07:07,710 --> 01:07:08,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: Austin, how are you? 1271 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,200 Austin: I'm doing well, thank you. 1272 01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:13,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: Nice to have you on. Set the Pace, I guess 1273 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: you kind of have to say yes, right? I mean, 1274 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: when the request comes from Becs, there's not really much 1275 01:07:19,230 --> 01:07:23,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: much of a conversation to be had. We knew you'd 1276 01:07:23,220 --> 01:07:25,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: come on. But we're thrilled to have you back on 1277 01:07:25,830 --> 01:07:29,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: Set the Pace. And I've been thinking about you Austin 1278 01:07:29,130 --> 01:07:31,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: a lot over the last six months as I 1279 01:07:32,190 --> 01:07:38,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: am regaled by Becs, all of her incredible stories, her 1280 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:43,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: amazing adventure of running the Great World Race and seven 1281 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:47,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: marathons on seven continents in seven days, and all of the 1282 01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:50,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: incredible training that had to lead up to that and 1283 01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:55,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: the time that she had to put in to do 1284 01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:58,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: that. And I'm thinking to myself, of course in the 1285 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: back of my head that wow, Austin is a 1286 01:08:01,890 --> 01:08:06,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: champ because clearly he is picking up the slack for 1287 01:08:07,050 --> 01:08:09,839 Rob Simmelkjaer: so much of what had to happen at home with 1288 01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:13,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: your daughter Tallulah and everything else that has to happen 1289 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,439 Rob Simmelkjaer: on the home front when someone is undertaking an adventure 1290 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: like that. So what was it like from your perspective 1291 01:08:20,460 --> 01:08:24,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: to see and be a part of Becs accomplishing this 1292 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: unbelievable adventure of the Great World Race? 1293 01:08:28,350 --> 01:08:31,860 Austin: I mean, nothing short of incredible to see Becs 1294 01:08:31,860 --> 01:08:36,450 Austin: accomplish it. We were down in Miami for the final 1295 01:08:36,450 --> 01:08:40,589 Austin: finish line of the seven and we had friends, family, some 1296 01:08:40,589 --> 01:08:45,960 Austin: of Becs' colleagues, and I always find races to be 1297 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,559 Austin: the celebration in many ways. But what you don't see 1298 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:54,839 Austin: is the behind the scenes, the runs that Becs doesn't 1299 01:08:54,839 --> 01:08:58,559 Austin: want to leave because Tallulah is asking again where mommy's 1300 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:03,060 Austin: going. And there were a lot of daddy daughter 1301 01:09:03,060 --> 01:09:07,470 Austin: dates on the weekends and some of those longer runs. 1302 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:14,189 Austin: We tried to incorporate sharing some miles, some stroller miles 1303 01:09:14,189 --> 01:09:18,030 Austin: together in the late summer before it got too cold. 1304 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,360 Austin: But yeah, I don't think people realize how much of 1305 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,680 Austin: a sacrifice it is to let alone train for a 1306 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,490 Austin: marathon, but then seven. And we talked about it 1307 01:09:32,490 --> 01:09:36,120 Austin: going into it that there was going to be probably 1308 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:42,840 Austin: some difficult conversations, times, et cetera. And we reached some 1309 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,790 Austin: of those bits towards the end and I think Becs 1310 01:09:47,790 --> 01:09:52,469 Austin: was ready for the race to be done, but we 1311 01:09:53,010 --> 01:09:57,150 Austin: were able to continue to find the best balance we 1312 01:09:57,150 --> 01:10:01,560 Austin: could once we were getting close to the race 1313 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:06,390 Austin: start. And then it's just when you're trying to squeeze 1314 01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:12,090 Austin: in a FaceTime between flights and continents and time changes, 1315 01:10:12,090 --> 01:10:16,590 Austin: and just to wish Becs good luck and this is 1316 01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:21,330 Austin: what it was all for, it's all worth it. So 1317 01:10:22,140 --> 01:10:26,820 Austin: yeah, I still can't comprehend. It's not like I'm not 1318 01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:30,240 Austin: a runner. I run, I still can't comprehend a 1319 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:36,390 Austin: race of this magnitude. So yeah, still processing it. 1320 01:10:37,410 --> 01:10:44,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: I will never ever comprehend what Becs did and others who 1321 01:10:44,700 --> 01:10:50,729 Rob Simmelkjaer: accomplished that feat, with her others who have done it before 1322 01:10:50,729 --> 01:10:52,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: and since then, it boggles the mind. 1323 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:59,790 Austin: It surely does. I have one long run a week 1324 01:10:59,850 --> 01:11:04,140 Austin: at the moment and that is circled on the 1325 01:11:04,140 --> 01:11:06,179 Austin: calendar each week. I'm just like, all right, I've got 1326 01:11:06,179 --> 01:11:10,200 Austin: to build myself up. And that was almost every day 1327 01:11:10,290 --> 01:11:14,700 Austin: for what Becs was training, and she was able to 1328 01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:17,610 Austin: meet a lot of now close friends through that race 1329 01:11:17,610 --> 01:11:21,330 Austin: and everyone has their own story of how they got 1330 01:11:21,330 --> 01:11:25,110 Austin: to that start line and to the finish line. So yeah, 1331 01:11:25,170 --> 01:11:27,150 Austin: it was quite special. 1332 01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:32,189 Becs: I work to inspire even that, but you definitely did 1333 01:11:32,460 --> 01:11:36,420 Becs: hold down the fort and allowed me the time on 1334 01:11:36,420 --> 01:11:39,900 Becs: my feet, which got me to the finish line. So 1335 01:11:39,929 --> 01:11:42,660 Becs: it was a team effort. I want to know though, 1336 01:11:43,229 --> 01:11:46,500 Becs: did my training in many ways, seeing as you were 1337 01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:49,740 Becs: so close to it first hand, inspire you or change 1338 01:11:49,740 --> 01:11:55,589 Becs: your mindset at all going into your current block of training? 1339 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: Which is for the London Marathon, right Austin? 1340 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,130 Austin: For London, yeah. Which will be the fifth star, 1341 01:12:02,670 --> 01:12:05,070 Austin: chasing the sixth and- 1342 01:12:05,309 --> 01:12:05,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: Nice. 1343 01:12:05,310 --> 01:12:11,099 Austin: ... a couple more after that. Yeah, it did. I 1344 01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:16,260 Austin: think there was always a talk, that the stars conversation 1345 01:12:16,260 --> 01:12:20,280 Austin: came quite quickly after I had run Boston, and that 1346 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:25,350 Austin: was my first major. I qualified for that. I ran 1347 01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:31,260 Austin: it. It was a terrible year weather- wise, and I had 1348 01:12:31,260 --> 01:12:34,830 Austin: heard about the stars, but it was not anything I 1349 01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:40,080 Austin: had thought of. And then in 2023, Chicago and New York 1350 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:44,580 Austin: just came up quite quickly and suddenly I was at 1351 01:12:44,580 --> 01:12:47,580 Austin: three stars. And then Becs wanted to do Tokyo and 1352 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,830 Austin: I wasn't going to go all that way and not 1353 01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:55,050 Austin: run. So there was four. So after Tokyo I had 1354 01:12:55,050 --> 01:12:59,910 Austin: the idea just based on Tallulah's age, it would be 1355 01:12:59,910 --> 01:13:03,689 Austin: nice to run Berlin in the fall of 2024 1356 01:13:03,689 --> 01:13:08,490 Austin: and then run London this year. And Tallulah, not that 1357 01:13:08,490 --> 01:13:11,340 Austin: her memory is set in stone right now, but she 1358 01:13:11,340 --> 01:13:14,429 Austin: would be able to kind of experience, and then also 1359 01:13:14,460 --> 01:13:17,580 Austin: knowing Becs connection to the UK, it'd be nice to 1360 01:13:17,580 --> 01:13:21,719 Austin: finish in London. And when Becs was training for the 1361 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:29,760 Austin: 7, 7, 7 I started to go for a few longer runs 1362 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,979 Austin: to just see what was in the tank and 1363 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,760 Austin: just based on our schedules, both also trying to balance 1364 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:40,350 Austin: work too and being parents, I just didn't have that 1365 01:13:40,350 --> 01:13:46,769 Austin: fire within me. And so Berlin was kind of scrapped 1366 01:13:47,220 --> 01:13:50,400 Austin: for 2024 and just was like, let's just get through Becs' 1367 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:57,690 Austin: race and then I can refocus. But it was quickly reignited 1368 01:13:58,020 --> 01:14:05,219 Austin: in Miami, seeing Becs finish with some of her 1369 01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:10,620 Austin: friends and just like, " Okay, I want to have that 1370 01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:19,080 Austin: feeling again." Because I treat running quite... You learn so 1371 01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:22,590 Austin: much about yourself each kind of training block, and I'm 1372 01:14:22,590 --> 01:14:26,400 Austin: not one to just line up a multitude of races. 1373 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,590 Austin: I kind of like to just sit back for a 1374 01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:31,979 Austin: little bit, and London couldn't come at a better 1375 01:14:31,979 --> 01:14:38,339 Austin: time. So definitely excited to be in this training cycle. 1376 01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:44,280 Austin: Becs is coaching me, which is the first time she's 1377 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,820 Austin: coached me in a race. So there's that balance, but 1378 01:14:47,820 --> 01:14:53,460 Austin: just feeling accomplished after each tough workout and rebuilding again. 1379 01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:58,080 Becs: We go through phases of I will give him his 1380 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,630 Becs: training plan for the week and he will just 1381 01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:04,380 Becs: sit in silence, and especially before the speed workout days, 1382 01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:08,340 Becs: I can feel him glaring at me over the counter 1383 01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:11,070 Becs: in the kitchen of like, " I don't want to talk 1384 01:15:11,070 --> 01:15:14,040 Becs: to you right now because this is a horrible workout." 1385 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,589 Becs: And then I can tell whether it's been a good workout or 1386 01:15:16,590 --> 01:15:18,780 Becs: not of how quickly he text me after it's done 1387 01:15:18,929 --> 01:15:23,550 Becs: and his tone. Like, uh- oh, maybe I should not 1388 01:15:23,550 --> 01:15:26,160 Becs: go home for a minute and just let him calm down, 1389 01:15:26,580 --> 01:15:30,570 Becs: or it's okay, he really crushed this workout. But 1390 01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:34,679 Becs: as we're getting closer, I'm kind of sending him his 1391 01:15:34,679 --> 01:15:35,910 Becs: workouts with trepidation. 1392 01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:41,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: What's interesting to me in listening to you guys talk 1393 01:15:41,610 --> 01:15:46,769 Rob Simmelkjaer: about your respective running challenges is the way that you 1394 01:15:46,770 --> 01:15:50,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: do have to support each other in what each of 1395 01:15:50,250 --> 01:15:54,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: you is trying to accomplish. And I think all runners 1396 01:15:54,809 --> 01:15:58,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: who are people with kids and families, if you're out 1397 01:15:58,740 --> 01:16:02,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: there running marathons, whether it's one or you're going 1398 01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:05,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: for the six stars or you're going to next level 1399 01:16:05,820 --> 01:16:09,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: stuff like what Becs did or Ultras or whatever it might 1400 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:14,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: be, you simply can't do it without some level of 1401 01:16:14,670 --> 01:16:19,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: support. And I've met all the kinds of couples. I've 1402 01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:23,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: met the couples where one is running like crazy and 1403 01:16:23,610 --> 01:16:26,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: the other one doesn't run and doesn't understand why anybody 1404 01:16:26,910 --> 01:16:30,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: would run, which can be challenging because one's like, " 1405 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well what are you doing? Why are you doing this?" Although 1406 01:16:33,180 --> 01:16:36,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: sometimes that works kind of like the, " Hey, whatever keeps 1407 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,889 Rob Simmelkjaer: that person happy and calm makes me happy." Sometimes you've 1408 01:16:40,890 --> 01:16:44,939 Rob Simmelkjaer: got the double runner couple, which you guys obviously are, 1409 01:16:44,939 --> 01:16:48,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: and I think in some ways that's ideal because there's 1410 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,729 Rob Simmelkjaer: an understanding that each of you has as to what 1411 01:16:50,729 --> 01:16:53,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: the other one's trying to do, and that question of 1412 01:16:53,700 --> 01:16:58,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: why maybe doesn't exist because you each understand intuitively the 1413 01:16:58,410 --> 01:17:02,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: why, and it makes it a little easier to support. 1414 01:17:02,010 --> 01:17:04,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: And then you guys are really next level because you're 1415 01:17:04,530 --> 01:17:09,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: not just understanding, but you're coaching, especially Becs, you coaching 1416 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:15,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: Austin, or Austin you supporting Becs at the high level 1417 01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:19,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: given what she had to do in November. So you 1418 01:17:19,410 --> 01:17:21,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: really are in a lot of ways a model. What 1419 01:17:21,810 --> 01:17:24,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: do you think, and I'll ask Austin, since you're our 1420 01:17:24,060 --> 01:17:28,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: guest, I'll ask you, what do you think other couples, other 1421 01:17:29,010 --> 01:17:31,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: sets of partners out there who are trying to 1422 01:17:31,650 --> 01:17:35,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: do these things can take from what you and Becs 1423 01:17:35,700 --> 01:17:38,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: have learned about supporting each other through these races? 1424 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,689 Austin: Going back to what you just said about having a 1425 01:17:45,689 --> 01:17:51,210 Austin: support system. And I had a specific goal that I 1426 01:17:51,210 --> 01:17:54,090 Austin: wanted to hit on a time and I achieved that, 1427 01:17:54,090 --> 01:17:57,330 Austin: but I look back at that and you always hold 1428 01:17:57,330 --> 01:17:59,939 Austin: a PR close to you and you say, " Will I 1429 01:17:59,939 --> 01:18:04,620 Austin: ever hit it again? And my life was very 1430 01:18:04,620 --> 01:18:08,640 Austin: different. I was single. I didn't have a dog, I 1431 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,000 Austin: could train. Really the only thing in my way was 1432 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:16,019 Austin: work, but I could train whenever I wanted to. And 1433 01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:21,240 Austin: our life is much different now. Becs and our relationship, 1434 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,700 Austin: we have Tallulah, we have two dogs, we both have 1435 01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:28,470 Austin: careers that we're trying to build. And more so I 1436 01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:33,000 Austin: guess my career, I've stepped away from a typical 9: 1437 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,229 Austin: 00 to 5:00 job and out on my own. And so you're 1438 01:18:37,229 --> 01:18:40,380 Austin: always asking yourself, " I could be working in this time, 1439 01:18:40,380 --> 01:18:44,130 Austin: I could be doing this." And there have been runs 1440 01:18:44,130 --> 01:18:48,750 Austin: that have been very tough. If Tallulah's a little sick 1441 01:18:48,750 --> 01:18:52,620 Austin: or under the weather, just fussy, she's a toddler, to 1442 01:18:52,620 --> 01:18:55,620 Austin: just be like, " Becs, you got it? I got to 1443 01:18:55,620 --> 01:18:58,620 Austin: go do this." And I know on the same side, 1444 01:18:58,650 --> 01:19:01,170 Austin: Becs has had to step out for some runs 1445 01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:10,410 Austin: and it's just like, " Yeah, I got it." So advice? What 1446 01:19:10,410 --> 01:19:14,189 Austin: works for Becs and I, and I don't know if it's advice 1447 01:19:14,189 --> 01:19:18,210 Austin: but it's advice for us is, I know how much 1448 01:19:18,210 --> 01:19:24,269 Austin: a workout can change our mindsets and just our energy 1449 01:19:24,270 --> 01:19:27,630 Austin: for the day. So getting out there, I know it 1450 01:19:27,900 --> 01:19:31,200 Austin: very much fills Becs' cup up. There's been times 1451 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:32,820 Austin: where I've just told her to go for a run. 1452 01:19:32,820 --> 01:19:38,729 Austin: I said, " Hey, you need to just go out for 1453 01:19:38,729 --> 01:19:39,149 Austin: a run." 1454 01:19:40,919 --> 01:19:45,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: I can imagine what kind of circumstances might've caused you to say 1455 01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:47,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: that. Yeah, just like, " You know what sweetheart, maybe you 1456 01:19:47,820 --> 01:19:49,651 Rob Simmelkjaer: should just go for a run maybe, like now." 1457 01:19:49,651 --> 01:19:56,700 Austin: And then I see her Strava or something, it's like 18 mile run, six- 1458 01:19:56,700 --> 01:19:59,159 Austin: minute phase. You're just like, " Okay, I think that was a 1459 01:19:59,250 --> 01:20:09,150 Austin: good shout on my part." I don't know where 1460 01:20:09,150 --> 01:20:11,760 Austin: I came across this bit of information, it was more 1461 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,990 Austin: related to parenting, but I think we've applied this into 1462 01:20:17,070 --> 01:20:22,350 Austin: other aspects of our relationship is, there's days that you're 1463 01:20:22,350 --> 01:20:25,650 Austin: going to be at 80% and your partner might be 1464 01:20:25,650 --> 01:20:29,609 Austin: at 20%. And there might be days that you're at 1465 01:20:29,670 --> 01:20:32,670 Austin: 40 and they're at 40. And just to check 1466 01:20:32,670 --> 01:20:36,299 Austin: in with each other and see where they're at and 1467 01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:39,180 Austin: see what they need. And if you're both at an 1468 01:20:39,180 --> 01:20:44,130 Austin: equal level and low, " Hey, how can we get ourselves 1469 01:20:44,130 --> 01:20:47,608 Austin: back? How can we get through this next bit?" Whatever, 1470 01:20:47,609 --> 01:20:52,560 Austin: it's the afternoon, the day, the week, whatever. So I 1471 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:58,979 Austin: think that helps quite a bit. But yeah, like you 1472 01:20:58,979 --> 01:21:02,250 Austin: said, there's relationship set. There's a runner in the 1473 01:21:02,250 --> 01:21:05,850 Austin: family and the other person doesn't step on an exercise 1474 01:21:05,850 --> 01:21:08,670 Austin: equipment, they get their fix from whether it be watching 1475 01:21:08,670 --> 01:21:16,769 Austin: sports or playing sports, et cetera. But balance is certainly 1476 01:21:16,770 --> 01:21:19,830 Austin: key for us, I think. 1477 01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:23,309 Becs: I think finding out also what helps each other on 1478 01:21:23,310 --> 01:21:26,850 Becs: the flip side to recover is key as well. Because 1479 01:21:27,660 --> 01:21:31,170 Becs: you know that any strenuous exercise is going to 1480 01:21:31,170 --> 01:21:35,490 Becs: take energy from a human. That's just what happens. But 1481 01:21:35,490 --> 01:21:40,108 Becs: knowing how each person can come back from that, because 1482 01:21:40,109 --> 01:21:42,150 Becs: as you train, you get stronger and you don't maybe 1483 01:21:42,150 --> 01:21:44,189 Becs: necessarily need to spend the rest of the afternoon on 1484 01:21:44,189 --> 01:21:47,280 Becs: the couch after your long run, which is fine to 1485 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,400 Becs: do. But when you have other responsibilities in life, it's 1486 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:55,080 Becs: knowing, okay, when Aus comes back from a run, it's, 1487 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,350 Becs: I'm going to get his rehydration stuff out and ready. 1488 01:21:58,590 --> 01:22:02,070 Becs: The water is poured and there'll be a smoothie... 1489 01:22:02,250 --> 01:22:04,080 Becs: If I had made a smoothie for Tallulah and I whilst 1490 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,389 Becs: he's out, make sure I've made enough and it's in 1491 01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:09,060 Becs: the fridge. And if T and I are out, it's all on a post- 1492 01:22:09,060 --> 01:22:11,580 Becs: it note of just like, " Hey babe, I got you. 1493 01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,280 Becs: This is going to help you recover and also help 1494 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:18,540 Becs: you get back onto parenting." In a way, because you 1495 01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:20,700 Becs: don't want that guilt. I know I felt that guilt 1496 01:22:20,700 --> 01:22:24,540 Becs: a lot and Aus did that for me last year. Was helping 1497 01:22:24,540 --> 01:22:28,170 Becs: my recovery, helping my post- run lineup be efficient so 1498 01:22:28,170 --> 01:22:30,000 Becs: I could get back to being mom. And I didn't 1499 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,859 Becs: have that guilt of extra time rolling through. So 1500 01:22:34,859 --> 01:22:37,890 Becs: I think that's a piece of advice. If you have 1501 01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:40,619 Becs: dogs and not kids, get the dogs out for a 1502 01:22:40,619 --> 01:22:42,299 Becs: walk and then you don't have to worry about them. 1503 01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:44,849 Becs: You can go back to being a couple as soon as 1504 01:22:44,850 --> 01:22:47,430 Becs: possible after the shower and then that person can get 1505 01:22:47,580 --> 01:22:50,760 Becs: in the boots or whatever it is to get their 1506 01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:55,380 Becs: recovery going and feeling back to their primary role, whatever 1507 01:22:55,380 --> 01:22:57,061 Becs: that may be. But yeah, it's fun. 1508 01:22:57,061 --> 01:22:57,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: No doubt about it. 1509 01:22:57,540 --> 01:22:58,379 Becs: It's very fun. 1510 01:22:58,650 --> 01:23:00,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: Recovery is part of the run. It's a big part of 1511 01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:04,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: the run. So Austin, let's talk about London. First of 1512 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:09,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: all, excited for you. That's going to be your fifth 1513 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: star you said. By the way, starting in Boston is 1514 01:23:12,060 --> 01:23:16,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: unusual. That's amazing that you qualify and obviously you're a 1515 01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:21,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: very good runner to start out with a qualifying run in 1516 01:23:21,689 --> 01:23:24,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: Boston as your first star. I think that's the stars 1517 01:23:24,780 --> 01:23:27,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: that are most likely to be the last star someone 1518 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: gets, from what I've seen in my travels, and I 1519 01:23:29,550 --> 01:23:31,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: think I've seen the data on this from the 1520 01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:35,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: Abbott World Marathon Majors. Folks are Tokyo and Boston, those 1521 01:23:35,580 --> 01:23:38,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: are the two that people generally struggle to get. So 1522 01:23:38,850 --> 01:23:42,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: you got those in your pocket already. Now you're sweeping 1523 01:23:42,630 --> 01:23:46,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: up the relatively easier ones to get. What is your 1524 01:23:46,530 --> 01:23:48,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: goal in London? Do you have a goal other than 1525 01:23:48,689 --> 01:23:51,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: just to get that star? A PR or anything like 1526 01:23:51,570 --> 01:23:53,159 Rob Simmelkjaer: that in your sights? So how are you thinking about it? 1527 01:23:54,090 --> 01:23:59,970 Austin: Yeah, I do have a time kind of goal and 1528 01:23:59,970 --> 01:24:04,650 Austin: it's not a PR, it's just I think a pretty solid 1529 01:24:04,650 --> 01:24:10,080 Austin: effort. My PR is, I broke three hours, I ran 2: 1530 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:18,090 Austin: 57 and that's what qualified me for Boston. And I 1531 01:24:18,090 --> 01:24:21,240 Austin: would like to think that I can do that again. 1532 01:24:22,590 --> 01:24:29,490 Austin: But Chicago, New York and Tokyo were three marathons in, 1533 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,890 Austin: it's called six months from 2023 to 2024. And 1534 01:24:35,070 --> 01:24:39,240 Austin: I felt a bit broken. Even going into Chicago, I 1535 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,750 Austin: was having achilles issues, but I had already had the 1536 01:24:42,750 --> 01:24:47,460 Austin: bibs for New York and Tokyo. So at that point 1537 01:24:47,460 --> 01:24:51,929 Austin: it was just kind of get through the races. And 1538 01:24:51,930 --> 01:24:55,530 Austin: so Chicago, I actually had quite a bit of fun 1539 01:24:55,530 --> 01:24:59,790 Austin: in Chicago. It wasn't until about mile 20- ish that 1540 01:24:59,790 --> 01:25:03,629 Austin: I had some achilles issues that flared up. And 1541 01:25:03,630 --> 01:25:04,200 Austin: then New York- 1542 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: Those are tough, by the way, the achilles thing is 1543 01:25:06,060 --> 01:25:08,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: a really tough thing to deal with. 1544 01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:08,701 Becs: Very tough. 1545 01:25:08,701 --> 01:25:12,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: I've been lucky never to have had that. It's scary 1546 01:25:12,450 --> 01:25:17,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: because you know that thing goes and you're going to 1547 01:25:17,310 --> 01:25:19,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: be sitting for a long time. 1548 01:25:19,770 --> 01:25:25,470 Austin: Yeah. I think the last race I had done before 1549 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,590 Austin: Chicago was actually an Ironman, and it was like the 1550 01:25:28,590 --> 01:25:31,619 Austin: last two miles I felt my achilles and calf 1551 01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:34,830 Austin: kind of starting to, and this wasn't issues I was 1552 01:25:34,830 --> 01:25:37,410 Austin: having with my achilles, it was just the end of 1553 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,979 Austin: a long day, that my body was just trying to say, " 1554 01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:45,810 Austin: Yeah, we're done, we want to be done." But going 1555 01:25:45,810 --> 01:25:49,080 Austin: into Chicago, I don't know if it was I got 1556 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,929 Austin: a bib quite late and tried to ramp up my 1557 01:25:51,930 --> 01:25:57,570 Austin: mileage a little bit too quickly. Since Tokyo, I've started 1558 01:25:57,570 --> 01:26:00,510 Austin: to get back into the gym to do some 1559 01:26:00,510 --> 01:26:09,540 Austin: strength training. Again, though, before Tallulah, we were able to 1560 01:26:09,540 --> 01:26:12,059 Austin: go to the gym for two, three hours and run 1561 01:26:12,060 --> 01:26:15,060 Austin: for an hour and lift for an hour and recover, 1562 01:26:16,770 --> 01:26:23,970 Austin: but time is very crucial now. So I think I 1563 01:26:23,970 --> 01:26:26,550 Austin: put the gym and the strength training on the back 1564 01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:30,001 Austin: burner and I paid for it. So New York 1565 01:26:30,119 --> 01:26:34,830 Austin: though was just a fun day celebrating in the city. 1566 01:26:36,210 --> 01:26:39,510 Austin: I had a few friends that wanted to run. They 1567 01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:42,090 Austin: had a goal time around like 3: 30, and I 1568 01:26:42,090 --> 01:26:45,660 Austin: was like, " This is great. This should be a nice 1569 01:26:45,660 --> 01:26:48,570 Austin: run." And we came in a little over that, but 1570 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,510 Austin: just we had so much fun that day. And then 1571 01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:56,400 Austin: Tokyo, I was so sick after the holidays in January 1572 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,830 Austin: and February. I think I had run less than 50 1573 01:26:58,830 --> 01:27:03,030 Austin: miles of training total before that race. So that 1574 01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:07,109 Austin: was just a tough day and a tough course. We 1575 01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:11,490 Austin: were talking about that for a second there in the pre- 1576 01:27:11,490 --> 01:27:13,799 Austin: show, but it's a tough course. There's so many out 1577 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,220 Austin: and backs, its sensory overload. To go- 1578 01:27:17,220 --> 01:27:17,371 Rob Simmelkjaer: The jet lag, everything is hard. 1579 01:27:17,371 --> 01:27:17,372 Austin: Yeah, all of it. 1580 01:27:17,372 --> 01:27:22,619 Rob Simmelkjaer: It really is a hard race, for Americans. For people coming from this side of 1581 01:27:22,619 --> 01:27:23,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: the world. Yeah. 1582 01:27:23,970 --> 01:27:29,010 Austin: Very much. But then you think someone in that part 1583 01:27:29,010 --> 01:27:30,540 Austin: of the world that wants the six stars, they're 1584 01:27:30,540 --> 01:27:33,389 Austin: coming over for three races in the US and two 1585 01:27:33,390 --> 01:27:42,420 Austin: in Europe. So yeah, but just going into London, I 1586 01:27:42,420 --> 01:27:45,630 Austin: wanted to see if I could touch back into some 1587 01:27:45,630 --> 01:27:52,050 Austin: of that lower threes. And right now training is going 1588 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:57,869 Austin: pretty well. I think both the coaching has helped tremendously 1589 01:27:58,530 --> 01:28:03,420 Austin: from Becs, and then also finding a balance in 1590 01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:07,200 Austin: the gym, strength training and also the running. So I'm 1591 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:12,210 Austin: excited to see what London has. It's a city that 1592 01:28:12,210 --> 01:28:14,939 Austin: I've grown to really love and spend a lot of 1593 01:28:14,939 --> 01:28:19,979 Austin: time in. And from what Becs has shared with me, 1594 01:28:19,979 --> 01:28:22,170 Austin: I haven't done too much research on the course, but 1595 01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:26,070 Austin: you see a lot. It's a nice sightseeing tour as 1596 01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:31,560 Austin: well. So yeah, very excited for London. We have some 1597 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,830 Austin: friends that will be running it as well. I think 1598 01:28:34,830 --> 01:28:40,770 Austin: my mom is coming out to support, and yeah, Becs 1599 01:28:40,770 --> 01:28:43,740 Austin: and Tallulah will be on the sidelines. 1600 01:28:44,430 --> 01:28:47,850 Becs: Yeah we will. All right, let's get to the nitty- gritty though. The 1601 01:28:47,850 --> 01:28:52,470 Becs: thing that everybody talks about for London and Boston, especially 1602 01:28:52,590 --> 01:28:55,530 Becs: over here and in the UK, Europe, is the training 1603 01:28:55,530 --> 01:29:00,570 Becs: through winter. So quick fire question. Summer training guy 1604 01:29:00,570 --> 01:29:01,559 Becs: or winter training guy? 1605 01:29:01,979 --> 01:29:04,770 Austin: Summer. After coming out of this winter, summer training. 1606 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:05,070 Becs: Yeah. 1607 01:29:05,369 --> 01:29:08,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: You and me both my friend. Absolutely. 1608 01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:10,948 Becs: It is brutal if you don't have access- 1609 01:29:10,948 --> 01:29:11,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dark, cold, windy. 1610 01:29:11,190 --> 01:29:15,479 Becs: ... to a treadmill, it's terrible. Yeah, daylight hours are 1611 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:20,670 Becs: minimal. It's tough. And I think going into these spring 1612 01:29:20,670 --> 01:29:25,559 Becs: races, that is an extra element of congratulatory love to 1613 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,130 Becs: send to all of our runners going into London and 1614 01:29:29,130 --> 01:29:31,439 Becs: Boston this year. But you mentioned earlier you ran 1615 01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,920 Becs: Boston in the famous year that the weather took a 1616 01:29:35,070 --> 01:29:39,780 Becs: drastic turn for the worst. So you finished it. There 1617 01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:44,490 Becs: were some very notable elite runners who bailed on the 1618 01:29:44,490 --> 01:29:47,640 Becs: day, understandably so. Their careers are kind of on the 1619 01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,220 Becs: line and they didn't want to get sick ahead of 1620 01:29:50,220 --> 01:29:54,450 Becs: certain things. But you and a friend battled the elements 1621 01:29:54,900 --> 01:29:59,490 Becs: all the way. All the to Boston and finished like a 1622 01:29:59,490 --> 01:30:03,509 Becs: pair of drowned rats, but looking lovely. But what 1623 01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:08,340 Becs: advice would you give to anyone, because at this point 1624 01:30:08,340 --> 01:30:10,410 Becs: of recording, we're a long way from both races, so we 1625 01:30:10,410 --> 01:30:14,160 Becs: can't really see the weather forecast. What advice would you 1626 01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,100 Becs: give to anyone who's running London or Boston and the 1627 01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:19,380 Becs: weather may take a turn, what would you say? 1628 01:30:21,540 --> 01:30:25,380 Austin: I would say experiencing Boston that year, I think it 1629 01:30:25,380 --> 01:30:30,000 Austin: was 2019, 2018 maybe. But yeah, the famous year of just 1630 01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:35,640 Austin: brutal weather. And at that time, I really didn't 1631 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,729 Austin: know how much of a privilege it was to run 1632 01:30:38,729 --> 01:30:41,939 Austin: Boston and the six stars, it being like most people's 1633 01:30:41,939 --> 01:30:46,350 Austin: last, that or Tokyo. What I did know and felt was 1634 01:30:47,010 --> 01:30:53,220 Austin: this was a few years past the bombings and the 1635 01:30:53,820 --> 01:31:00,870 Austin: terrible finish line, there was this sense of community 1636 01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:05,910 Austin: and a privilege to run it. So the Boston Strong 1637 01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:09,300 Austin: motto just kind of resonated quite well. And I think 1638 01:31:09,300 --> 01:31:14,430 Austin: that going into London, if the weather's poor, really just 1639 01:31:14,460 --> 01:31:16,470 Austin: what a privilege it is to be able to run 1640 01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:22,500 Austin: one of the six majors. And at that time, I 1641 01:31:22,979 --> 01:31:27,090 Austin: just kind of threw out any goals or expectations for 1642 01:31:27,090 --> 01:31:29,010 Austin: the race. It was more of just, " Hey, this is 1643 01:31:29,010 --> 01:31:30,390 Austin: going to be a run to the finish line." 1644 01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:35,130 Austin: And I still ended up having a great day despite 1645 01:31:35,130 --> 01:31:39,120 Austin: the weather. Duct taping on shoes and just kind of 1646 01:31:39,270 --> 01:31:43,140 Austin: lowered the head and battled the winds and rains. So 1647 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,930 Austin: it was a very tough day in Boston that day, 1648 01:31:48,930 --> 01:31:52,110 Austin: but I mean, winter training kind of gets you through 1649 01:31:53,189 --> 01:31:56,790 Austin: and preps you the most for I think some of 1650 01:31:56,790 --> 01:32:00,001 Austin: these spring races because there are plenty of cold. 1651 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,920 Austin: The wind in New York recently has been crazy strong. 1652 01:32:05,850 --> 01:32:08,520 Austin: You either have a nice tailwind going up or back, 1653 01:32:09,420 --> 01:32:11,400 Austin: but at one point you're going to have to face 1654 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,510 Austin: it. So I think going into London, yeah, it's just like, " All right, 1655 01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:20,490 Austin: I've been through this with the training." So just tapping 1656 01:32:20,490 --> 01:32:21,330 Austin: back into that. 1657 01:32:22,260 --> 01:32:25,439 Rob Simmelkjaer: What the winter training does not always prepare you that 1658 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:30,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: well for is a 70 degree day, which is what 1659 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: we had in Tokyo. And you never know, you 1660 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,349 Rob Simmelkjaer: could certainly have in London. It's not known for warm, 1661 01:32:37,740 --> 01:32:41,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: sunny days per se, especially not in April. But I 1662 01:32:42,570 --> 01:32:45,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: feel like in London you could get three seasons in 1663 01:32:45,060 --> 01:32:47,729 Rob Simmelkjaer: one race. I feel like that's the thing about London. 1664 01:32:47,729 --> 01:32:47,969 Becs: Totally. 1665 01:32:49,020 --> 01:32:51,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: You could get a beautiful spring day and a cold winter 1666 01:32:51,930 --> 01:32:55,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: day and a rainy day all in the same race. 1667 01:32:55,470 --> 01:32:57,780 Becs: I agree. I will actually say the same for Boston. 1668 01:32:57,780 --> 01:33:02,431 Becs: The year I ran Boston, which was 2019, I 1669 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:03,391 Becs: woke up to- 1670 01:33:03,391 --> 01:33:05,759 Becs: ... I woke up to ... So yours is 2018, because 1671 01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:10,320 Becs: I remember waking up and seeing literally sideways rain out 1672 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,660 Becs: the window and being like, " Oh, no, it's going to 1673 01:33:12,660 --> 01:33:14,460 Becs: be the same as it was last year, this is 1674 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,780 Becs: awful." I left my aunt's house head- to- toe in 1675 01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:24,000 Becs: bin bags, covered, and I had my spare pair of 1676 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:28,050 Becs: shoes and my spare pair of socks bundled up inside. 1677 01:33:28,710 --> 01:33:31,110 Becs: I was prepared for everything. By the time we 1678 01:33:31,110 --> 01:33:35,130 Becs: started that race, it had dried, the rain had stopped, 1679 01:33:35,130 --> 01:33:37,559 Becs: but it was still wet underfoot. By the time we 1680 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,290 Becs: finished, I finished that race and then the continuation of 1681 01:33:40,290 --> 01:33:44,220 Becs: that day, Rob, it got to mid- sixties in Boston, 1682 01:33:44,220 --> 01:33:47,639 Becs: so it really was multi seasons in the day for 1683 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:52,020 Becs: Boston too. So it can be just this wild experience 1684 01:33:52,020 --> 01:33:57,389 Becs: of waking up with dread and finishing with dehydration. Don't 1685 01:33:57,390 --> 01:34:01,979 Becs: do that though, everyone. But yeah, London's going to 1686 01:34:01,979 --> 01:34:07,410 Becs: be very interesting I think. Let's talk a little bit 1687 01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:15,090 Becs: about your running journey. So obviously having come from hockey 1688 01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:20,520 Becs: to Ironman to running marathons, just road running, is there 1689 01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:24,209 Becs: a part of you that after you complete the six 1690 01:34:24,209 --> 01:34:26,370 Becs: stars, whenever that happens, do you think you're going to 1691 01:34:26,370 --> 01:34:29,069 Becs: return to Ironman training or something else? 1692 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:35,849 Austin: Something else seems like a loaded question there. Should 1693 01:34:35,850 --> 01:34:36,180 Austin: I be? No, yeah- 1694 01:34:37,530 --> 01:34:39,570 Becs: Yeah, I signed you up for The Great World Race. 1695 01:34:40,020 --> 01:34:46,709 Austin: Yeah. We actually have a handshake agreement, and you heard 1696 01:34:46,709 --> 01:34:48,121 Austin: it here first. What was it we made? 1697 01:34:48,121 --> 01:34:48,331 Becs: I don't remember. 1698 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,150 Austin: I would do the Great World Race if you did 1699 01:34:54,150 --> 01:34:55,291 Austin: a triathlon, it was something ... 1700 01:34:55,291 --> 01:34:57,870 Becs: It was the other way round. I said if you do the Great 1701 01:34:57,870 --> 01:34:58,320 Becs: World Race, I will do a triathlon. 1702 01:34:59,820 --> 01:35:00,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Really? 1703 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,431 Austin: Yeah, something like that, like an Ironman. 1704 01:35:02,431 --> 01:35:03,960 Becs: I think I'm pretty safe. 1705 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: I was going to say, after watching Becs do it, Austin, 1706 01:35:09,090 --> 01:35:12,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: is there a chance this could happen or maybe zero chance? 1707 01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,680 Austin: Yeah, she would say zero, I'd say about 5%. 1708 01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:16,830 Becs: I am so ... 1709 01:35:16,830 --> 01:35:21,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: In the famous words of, I believe it was Jim 1710 01:35:21,780 --> 01:35:24,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: Carrey in Dumb and Dumber, so you're saying there's a chance. 1711 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:25,860 Austin: Yes. 1712 01:35:28,110 --> 01:35:28,111 Becs: Terrible, terrible. 1713 01:35:28,110 --> 01:35:33,000 Austin: So the six stars is obviously ... it became a 1714 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:40,530 Austin: reality like 2023 and it looks like I'll be on 1715 01:35:40,530 --> 01:35:45,960 Austin: track to finish within possibly this year with Berlin in 1716 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:53,280 Austin: the fall. Iron Man? Yeah, I would like to do 1717 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:55,650 Austin: another one. I think there's a goal time that I 1718 01:35:55,650 --> 01:35:58,889 Austin: have that I was quite close on the last one. 1719 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:06,629 Austin: And it was also before Tallulah. The training for 1720 01:36:06,630 --> 01:36:13,620 Austin: that is just so much time. The efforts, I'd be 1721 01:36:13,620 --> 01:36:17,549 Austin: very ... Becs is about to start training for her next 1722 01:36:17,550 --> 01:36:22,200 Austin: race. And she went from training just endurance. I was 1723 01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,629 Austin: actually her coach on some of those long runs to 1724 01:36:24,630 --> 01:36:29,340 Austin: slow her up actually for pace to just time on 1725 01:36:29,340 --> 01:36:32,820 Austin: feet to now touching back into speed. And I 1726 01:36:32,820 --> 01:36:37,200 Austin: think that's when, when you're training for a marathon and 1727 01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,450 Austin: you do have a goal time, you are doing speed 1728 01:36:39,450 --> 01:36:44,160 Austin: workouts. And they're tough workouts. It's putting you quite uncomfortable. 1729 01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:48,059 Austin: Where with an Ironman, I know a lot of athletes 1730 01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:52,680 Austin: do have crazy goal times, and some of the times 1731 01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,580 Austin: I can't even fathom how they are doing that for 1732 01:36:56,580 --> 01:36:58,170 Austin: nine hours or eight hours. 1733 01:36:58,170 --> 01:36:59,820 Becs: How long it would take me to swim it. 1734 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,979 Austin: But it's really just, for how I take it 1735 01:37:04,979 --> 01:37:08,729 Austin: is, it's really just endurance, the time on feet, quote, 1736 01:37:08,729 --> 01:37:12,839 Austin: unquote, that Becs experienced for The Great World Race. And 1737 01:37:13,740 --> 01:37:17,279 Austin: yeah, I'm enjoying this process right now, training for a 1738 01:37:17,279 --> 01:37:21,270 Austin: marathon. I think it's a really good balance of having 1739 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:27,240 Austin: time for our relationship, to be a parent, to do 1740 01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:31,740 Austin: other things outside of fitness. And Ironman is a 1741 01:37:31,740 --> 01:37:37,620 Austin: bit time- consuming. So yeah, right now I'm focused on 1742 01:37:37,620 --> 01:37:41,189 Austin: just getting these two done. I hit a goal ton 1743 01:37:41,310 --> 01:37:44,370 Austin: in the marathon, I'm happy with that. If I never 1744 01:37:44,370 --> 01:37:47,460 Austin: hit it again, I'm like, cool, that's what I set 1745 01:37:47,460 --> 01:37:47,641 Austin: out to do. 1746 01:37:47,641 --> 01:37:51,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sub three hours, which was ... What was the exact time? 1747 01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:54,600 Austin: 2: 57 and some change. 1748 01:37:54,839 --> 01:37:55,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: And that was where? 1749 01:37:56,279 --> 01:37:57,870 Austin: It was the New Jersey marathon. 1750 01:37:58,529 --> 01:38:00,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Jersey City, okay, good one. 1751 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:03,570 Austin: Not Jersey City, it was in Asbury Park. 1752 01:38:03,630 --> 01:38:05,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: Asbury Park, okay, cool. 1753 01:38:05,279 --> 01:38:09,778 Austin: So it was a small race. I worked with the pacing group. It 1754 01:38:09,779 --> 01:38:14,400 Austin: was just maybe 300 runners, maybe a little bit more, 1755 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:15,031 Austin: but it wasn't a big race. 1756 01:38:15,031 --> 01:38:18,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: Amazing, amazing. Lots of space. Yeah, well, that can make it easier, space to 1757 01:38:18,420 --> 01:38:19,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: run. Absolutely. 1758 01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:24,510 Austin: Exactly. And that was a springtime race. So yeah, right 1759 01:38:24,510 --> 01:38:30,000 Austin: now just the goals are set on the two marathons. 1760 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:34,920 Austin: I would love to get back into some ice 1761 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:40,260 Austin: hockey at some point. Not necessarily playing, but coaching to 1762 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:44,370 Austin: some level, quite difficult in New York, but that would 1763 01:38:44,370 --> 01:38:48,300 Austin: be something down the road. But right now it's just 1764 01:38:48,570 --> 01:38:54,750 Austin: trying to just enjoy each race. That's how I look 1765 01:38:54,750 --> 01:38:55,050 Austin: at it. 1766 01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,639 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, I am of course the CEO of New York 1767 01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: Road Runners, and so I will always say, and 1768 01:39:02,220 --> 01:39:05,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm also a native New Yorker, that the TCS New 1769 01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:08,401 Rob Simmelkjaer: York City Marathon is the greatest marathon in the world. 1770 01:39:08,401 --> 01:39:08,791 Austin: Absolutely. 1771 01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: That said, with respect to all of our colleagues at 1772 01:39:12,990 --> 01:39:18,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: the other majors, I generally believe, and I haven't run 1773 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:19,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: it yet, but I've been there, I've experienced it, I've 1774 01:39:19,890 --> 01:39:23,339 Rob Simmelkjaer: talked to so many six star finishers, the one that 1775 01:39:23,339 --> 01:39:27,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: is closest to New York in terms of the experience, 1776 01:39:28,170 --> 01:39:34,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: the environment, the crowds, the energy, the feel, all 1777 01:39:34,140 --> 01:39:38,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: of the things that make New York special is definitely 1778 01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:42,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: London. I think London has that passion in the community 1779 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:49,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: for the event, the crowds are massive. And then the 1780 01:39:49,470 --> 01:39:54,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: route and that incredible spectacular finish in the shadow of 1781 01:39:54,660 --> 01:39:59,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: Buckingham Palace, nobody else can offer that obviously. It's a 1782 01:39:59,700 --> 01:40:03,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: really special one. So I think you're going to 1783 01:40:03,390 --> 01:40:05,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: have a great time. What are you most looking forward 1784 01:40:05,370 --> 01:40:08,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: to in terms of going over there, being in London 1785 01:40:08,700 --> 01:40:10,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: and running that race, is it the race? Is it 1786 01:40:10,979 --> 01:40:13,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: just being over there? What are you most excited about? 1787 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:15,811 Austin: Right now I think it's- 1788 01:40:15,811 --> 01:40:15,812 Rob Simmelkjaer: Seeing Becs in her native element? 1789 01:40:15,812 --> 01:40:26,729 Austin: No, I think having a good run, honestly, this is maybe a little 1790 01:40:26,729 --> 01:40:30,631 Austin: bit taboo to say, but the beer afterwards with the friends. 1791 01:40:30,631 --> 01:40:30,632 Becs: The hot beer. 1792 01:40:30,632 --> 01:40:37,470 Austin: Yeah, the lukewarm beer that London serves. 1793 01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:42,809 Rob Simmelkjaer: Not taboo at all by the way, the beer I had in Tokyo was epic. 1794 01:40:43,290 --> 01:40:47,849 Austin: Yeah, I mean, the funniest thing, the first marathon I 1795 01:40:47,850 --> 01:40:50,550 Austin: ever did was the Philly marathon, and my friends had 1796 01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:53,880 Austin: run it the year before, and they were like, there's 1797 01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:58,500 Austin: an out and back along Kelly Drive that turns around 1798 01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,340 Austin: in a little town called Manayunk, which is a 1799 01:41:02,340 --> 01:41:08,670 Austin: very post- college grad area to live. So there's a 1800 01:41:08,670 --> 01:41:12,389 Austin: lot of bars and it gets a bit rowdy there. 1801 01:41:12,390 --> 01:41:15,510 Austin: And I remember them saying that they had a beer, 1802 01:41:15,689 --> 01:41:19,350 Austin: they were giving out beer on the course at the 1803 01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:21,479 Austin: turnaround. And so the next year I was running it 1804 01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,780 Austin: with my twin sister. And I was like, " I'm going to have 1805 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:30,001 Austin: a beer at the turnaround." And I remember passing 1806 01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:32,189 Austin: that booth and just the smell of beer at that 1807 01:41:32,189 --> 01:41:36,270 Austin: point I was just like, no way would I ever 1808 01:41:36,270 --> 01:41:41,040 Austin: think of that. It's not until you're done, that post 1809 01:41:41,850 --> 01:41:48,059 Austin: drink celebratory feeling hit. So yeah, I have some good 1810 01:41:48,059 --> 01:41:51,960 Austin: friends, Becs and I have some good friends in London. Two of them are 1811 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:57,000 Austin: running. And we've got some plans afterwards. I don't know, 1812 01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,001 Austin: where are we going, Becs, there was some pub 1813 01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:01,410 Austin: or something that they- 1814 01:42:01,410 --> 01:42:03,270 Becs: I'm not putting that out there on this thing. 1815 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:05,001 Austin: (inaudible) 1816 01:42:04,530 --> 01:42:08,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh, there's lots of pubs. Saying you'll be in a pub 1817 01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:09,331 Rob Simmelkjaer: in London is like, there's no way. 1818 01:42:09,331 --> 01:42:09,332 Becs: We'll be south of the river. 1819 01:42:09,332 --> 01:42:17,099 Austin: It'll be like, the Blue Crow Door and you look it up 1820 01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:17,939 Austin: on Google Maps and there's 15. 1821 01:42:17,939 --> 01:42:18,960 Becs: The Red Lion, there's a hundred Red Lions. 1822 01:42:19,530 --> 01:42:22,050 Austin: Yeah, The Red Lion, there's just a hundred of them. You're like, " 1823 01:42:22,050 --> 01:42:26,939 Austin: Which owner?" But yeah, we'll see some friends after. One 1824 01:42:26,939 --> 01:42:30,689 Austin: of them, he actually just had a newborn that's 1825 01:42:30,689 --> 01:42:33,900 Austin: almost, not a newborn, she's almost a year old, so 1826 01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,271 Austin: we'll get to meet her. Yeah, so will be fun. 1827 01:42:36,271 --> 01:42:36,361 Becs: The dad's running. 1828 01:42:37,470 --> 01:42:40,860 Austin: Yeah, the dad's running. But yeah, to take it in, 1829 01:42:40,860 --> 01:42:44,520 Austin: I think New York is ... I've lived in New York 1830 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,850 Austin: now for 12 years. And just each neighborhood you run 1831 01:42:47,850 --> 01:42:52,019 Austin: through, you almost run through different chapters of your life 1832 01:42:52,020 --> 01:42:56,670 Austin: if you've spent that much time here and experience it. 1833 01:42:56,670 --> 01:42:59,610 Austin: And I'm sure the same, I won't have the exact 1834 01:42:59,610 --> 01:43:03,570 Austin: same connections running through London, but I'm sure you 1835 01:43:03,570 --> 01:43:07,170 Austin: get that sense. If you're not from New York and 1836 01:43:07,170 --> 01:43:11,400 Austin: run New York marathon, you see the different neighborhoods and 1837 01:43:12,030 --> 01:43:15,510 Austin: can piece together what that is. So yeah, I'm excited 1838 01:43:15,510 --> 01:43:17,309 Austin: for London very much. 1839 01:43:17,309 --> 01:43:20,280 Becs: It is a good one for seeing different parts, same as 1840 01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:24,839 Becs: Boston. There's Boston central where you finish, London central where 1841 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,050 Becs: you finish. But because they're point to point races, you 1842 01:43:28,050 --> 01:43:30,001 Becs: do get to see parts of London that maybe 1843 01:43:30,270 --> 01:43:32,670 Becs: as a first time tourist visitor, maybe even a second 1844 01:43:32,670 --> 01:43:35,970 Becs: time tourist visitor, you don't go to. Going down to 1845 01:43:35,970 --> 01:43:39,839 Becs: Greenwich is a trek. The park is beautiful, but not 1846 01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:41,850 Becs: everybody goes there on their first and maybe even second 1847 01:43:41,850 --> 01:43:44,429 Becs: trip to London. But starting there and then winding through 1848 01:43:44,429 --> 01:43:48,120 Becs: those really cute little villages into the city and then 1849 01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:51,300 Becs: back out to Canary Wharf, which is our extended financial 1850 01:43:51,300 --> 01:43:54,689 Becs: district in London, you get to see so much more 1851 01:43:54,689 --> 01:43:58,080 Becs: of this cool city. And the big mixture that I 1852 01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,240 Becs: love the most about the route in London is the 1853 01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,010 Becs: old and the new. So when you get to see 1854 01:44:02,010 --> 01:44:10,320 Becs: Canary Wharf, is so new compared to Blackfriars and the areas 1855 01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,660 Becs: that you run through on the last let's say five 1856 01:44:12,660 --> 01:44:16,439 Becs: miles of the race are so old and historic. You're running 1857 01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,840 Becs: alongside the Embankment with Big Ben and the Houses of 1858 01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:22,170 Becs: Parliament in front of you. As Rob said, finishing at 1859 01:44:23,189 --> 01:44:26,460 Becs: Buckingham Palace where the king will be waving you on. 1860 01:44:29,850 --> 01:44:32,280 Becs: It's such a magical place. I hope it's sunny 1861 01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:38,790 Becs: because the year I ran London, which was 2016, oh 1862 01:44:38,790 --> 01:44:42,570 Becs: my gosh, 2016, so long ago, and it was a spring 1863 01:44:42,570 --> 01:44:46,110 Becs: day and there was crocuses and little flowers all over the 1864 01:44:46,110 --> 01:44:48,570 Becs: park. And it was such a beautiful place to start 1865 01:44:48,750 --> 01:44:51,750 Becs: that being from the UK, I hope that you get 1866 01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:52,110 Becs: to see that. 1867 01:44:52,979 --> 01:44:58,050 Austin: Yeah, and you may have a different opinion on this, but 1868 01:44:58,650 --> 01:45:02,400 Austin: when we've spent our time in London, it's quite 1869 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,790 Austin: a hard city to run in. Whereas New York, you've 1870 01:45:05,790 --> 01:45:09,509 Austin: got a lot of different running paths in Brooklyn, Manhattan, 1871 01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:14,189 Austin: you've got Central Park, you've got Prospect Park. There's so 1872 01:45:14,189 --> 01:45:16,710 Austin: many different routes you can take if you need to 1873 01:45:16,710 --> 01:45:23,639 Austin: go for a longer run. Where London is ... I've enjoyed 1874 01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:27,630 Austin: some of our runs, but it's always stop- start. Hyde 1875 01:45:27,630 --> 01:45:30,991 Austin: Park's not a huge park. 1876 01:45:30,991 --> 01:45:30,992 Rob Simmelkjaer: Not that big. 1877 01:45:30,992 --> 01:45:30,993 Austin: It's big but it's not that big. 1878 01:45:30,993 --> 01:45:33,058 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hyde Park is big, but it's not Central Park, you can't 1879 01:45:33,059 --> 01:45:34,411 Rob Simmelkjaer: run a six- mile loop in Hyde Park. 1880 01:45:34,411 --> 01:45:34,531 Austin: Exactly. Yeah. 1881 01:45:36,990 --> 01:45:41,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: Tokyo is worse. Tokyo, there's nowhere to run in Tokyo. 1882 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: You can go run that loop around the palace. 1883 01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:45,271 Austin: But that's it. It was 5K. 1884 01:45:45,271 --> 01:45:48,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's a couple of miles, but otherwise you're just out 1885 01:45:48,660 --> 01:45:51,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the streets. People don't, I think they do, but 1886 01:45:51,900 --> 01:45:55,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: if you don't, if you're a New Yorker and if 1887 01:45:55,229 --> 01:45:57,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're listening to this podcast, you're probably part of the New 1888 01:45:57,780 --> 01:46:01,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: York runners community, how lucky we are in New 1889 01:46:01,260 --> 01:46:05,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: York City to have both Central Park and the routes 1890 01:46:05,700 --> 01:46:08,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: that we have along the waterfronts. I think next to 1891 01:46:08,610 --> 01:46:12,809 Rob Simmelkjaer: Boston or along with Boston, these are the great places 1892 01:46:12,809 --> 01:46:15,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: to run. Chicago too, along the lake front. We've got 1893 01:46:15,420 --> 01:46:19,769 Rob Simmelkjaer: great places to run in these big running cities in 1894 01:46:19,770 --> 01:46:22,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: the United States. And that just doesn't exist in a 1895 01:46:22,530 --> 01:46:23,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: lot of these other places. 1896 01:46:24,270 --> 01:46:26,850 Austin: Yeah, you could go from the tip of Manhattan up 1897 01:46:26,850 --> 01:46:30,870 Austin: to the George Washington Bridge uninterrupted on the path. 1898 01:46:31,198 --> 01:46:33,270 Austin: And that's, what, 16 miles? 1899 01:46:33,270 --> 01:46:38,011 Rob Simmelkjaer: It sounds about right. I don't know. Maybe 12. 1900 01:46:38,011 --> 01:46:38,012 Becs: 12. 1901 01:46:38,012 --> 01:46:38,282 Austin: 12. Okay. Yeah. 1902 01:46:38,820 --> 01:46:41,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: I was saying 11 or 12, yeah. But yeah, you can do 1903 01:46:41,340 --> 01:46:44,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: your whole long run just up and down the west 1904 01:46:44,340 --> 01:46:46,801 Rob Simmelkjaer: side, absolutely, and be on the water the entire time. 1905 01:46:46,801 --> 01:46:49,860 Austin: Yeah, if you want to cut in, you can cut into Central Park in a number 1906 01:46:49,860 --> 01:46:52,740 Austin: of different levels, you've got the bridge. 1907 01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:53,519 Becs: Yeah, we're spoiled. 1908 01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:59,130 Austin: We're very spoiled to be able to ... We looked at a 1909 01:46:59,130 --> 01:47:03,299 Austin: house that was a little bit further into Brooklyn. 1910 01:47:03,300 --> 01:47:06,480 Austin: And one of the things that I mentioned was just, 1911 01:47:06,689 --> 01:47:10,000 Austin: hey, this is now a three- mile just to get to ... 1912 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:10,140 Becs: (inaudible) Park. 1913 01:47:11,100 --> 01:47:15,330 Austin: That's unheard of in New York because if you live 1914 01:47:15,330 --> 01:47:19,229 Austin: in Manhattan, I think the widest part of the city 1915 01:47:19,229 --> 01:47:21,990 Austin: is two and a half miles. So if you live 1916 01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:22,110 Austin: in the- 1917 01:47:22,110 --> 01:47:23,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's right, just under three miles that's right. 1918 01:47:23,850 --> 01:47:26,729 Austin: You are less than a mile and a half to 1919 01:47:26,970 --> 01:47:29,429 Austin: at least the east or the west side and then 1920 01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:30,420 Austin: you can start your run. 1921 01:47:30,420 --> 01:47:30,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's right. 1922 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,860 Austin: When we travel to different cities, it's just like, oh, 1923 01:47:34,890 --> 01:47:37,110 Austin: okay, this is the only path I can run on. 1924 01:47:37,770 --> 01:47:37,771 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, it's a great, great running city. 1925 01:47:37,771 --> 01:47:41,670 Austin: So yeah, we're very spoiled. I'm excited to run through 1926 01:47:41,670 --> 01:47:47,370 Austin: London and just have the streets closed down and just 1927 01:47:47,370 --> 01:47:49,170 Austin: have a fun day. 1928 01:47:49,170 --> 01:47:51,360 Becs: Hear all those Londoners cheering you on. 1929 01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:56,669 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's right. And those lovely, lovely accents. Okay, Austin, so 1930 01:47:57,300 --> 01:47:59,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: let's get down to business here. So you're going to 1931 01:47:59,430 --> 01:48:04,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: get your fifth star in London. Berlin, you almost 1932 01:48:04,830 --> 01:48:07,921 Rob Simmelkjaer: ran once, decided not to do it, that's going to be- 1933 01:48:07,921 --> 01:48:11,490 Becs: We ended up going on a beach holiday instead. Let's be honest, Austin, I said 1934 01:48:11,490 --> 01:48:16,590 Becs: to you, you can run Berlin or we can go to the Cayman Islands for a really nice beach 1935 01:48:16,590 --> 01:48:18,930 Becs: weekend holiday. And he was like, "Oh, I'll take the Cayman Islands." 1936 01:48:19,500 --> 01:48:24,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: I can't exactly blame him on that choice, but okay, 1937 01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,151 Rob Simmelkjaer: either work really hard and run 26. 2 miles- 1938 01:48:27,150 --> 01:48:27,151 Austin: She called me out. 1939 01:48:27,151 --> 01:48:30,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: Or have a pina colada on the beach. It's a 1940 01:48:30,660 --> 01:48:34,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: very understandable choice that you made there, Austin. But now 1941 01:48:34,740 --> 01:48:38,339 Rob Simmelkjaer: with only this one star remaining, it's going to be 1942 01:48:38,340 --> 01:48:41,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: sitting there waiting for you. How would you like to 1943 01:48:41,850 --> 01:48:46,019 Rob Simmelkjaer: run the BMW Berlin Marathon this fall, would that be 1944 01:48:46,020 --> 01:48:47,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: something that would interest you? 1945 01:48:47,729 --> 01:48:48,660 Austin: I would love to. 1946 01:48:49,140 --> 01:48:52,979 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, I think that we can make that happen for you, Austin. In fact, 1947 01:48:53,700 --> 01:48:56,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: we are going to make that happen for you. Assuming 1948 01:48:56,370 --> 01:49:00,001 Rob Simmelkjaer: you actually finish in London. We're going to ... If 1949 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:04,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: you don't finish, then the deal's off. But we're going 1950 01:49:04,710 --> 01:49:10,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: to hand you a bib for the BMW Berlin Marathon 1951 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:15,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: this fall, 2025, through our relationship with them through Abbott 1952 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: World Marathon Majors. We're fortunate to have some. And we 1953 01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:22,049 Rob Simmelkjaer: are pleased to present you that opportunity to run. So 1954 01:49:22,050 --> 01:49:24,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: what do you think about that? No Cayman Islands this 1955 01:49:24,150 --> 01:49:24,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: year. What do you think? 1956 01:49:24,780 --> 01:49:29,280 Austin: No Cayman Islands this year. Sorry, Becs. One, greatly, greatly 1957 01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,490 Austin: appreciated. Thank you so much for making that happen 1958 01:49:32,490 --> 01:49:39,510 Austin: to you, Becs and the New York Road Runners team. Yeah, that 1959 01:49:39,510 --> 01:49:43,140 Austin: will round it out and finish things up on the 1960 01:49:43,140 --> 01:49:47,280 Austin: six stars. So a little speechless, thank you. 1961 01:49:47,550 --> 01:49:51,509 Becs: I promise you we will go to a European island after 1962 01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:52,559 Becs: for a vacation. 1963 01:49:53,460 --> 01:49:54,961 Rob Simmelkjaer: I think that will be deserved, I think that will be deserved. 1964 01:49:54,961 --> 01:49:59,610 Austin: Fair enough. I will be enjoying the summer training very much. 1965 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, I've been there and done that, and it's 1966 01:50:03,180 --> 01:50:07,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: nice, the long days, so much opportunity to run. Yeah, 1967 01:50:07,710 --> 01:50:10,108 Rob Simmelkjaer: that should give you a little extra motivation as you 1968 01:50:10,109 --> 01:50:13,019 Rob Simmelkjaer: get ready for London and course your way through that 1969 01:50:13,020 --> 01:50:16,439 Rob Simmelkjaer: race knowing that that six star is there for you 1970 01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:19,619 Rob Simmelkjaer: if you want it this September. And we know you 1971 01:50:19,619 --> 01:50:23,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: do. So wish you all the best getting ready for 1972 01:50:23,700 --> 01:50:27,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: London and for your day there. And it's always great 1973 01:50:27,420 --> 01:50:29,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: to have you and get a little look inside the world of 1974 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs Gentry other than what she does on Peloton 1975 01:50:33,300 --> 01:50:36,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: and in our podcast, the man who is behind all that. 1976 01:50:36,179 --> 01:50:41,550 Austin: Rob, if you want me back for the third time, you and I can 1977 01:50:41,550 --> 01:50:42,839 Austin: just do one. 1978 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:44,609 Becs: Edge me out. Edge me out. 1979 01:50:44,609 --> 01:50:47,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: I like that, we can just talk about Becs on a show, 1980 01:50:47,970 --> 01:50:48,781 Rob Simmelkjaer: I think that's a great idea. 1981 01:50:48,780 --> 01:50:52,769 Becs: Not allowed, not allowed, no, vetoed. 1982 01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: Austin, great to see you, good luck in London. 1983 01:50:59,160 --> 01:50:59,820 Austin: You as well. 1984 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:16,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: Thank you. Teresita Gonzalez took up running in 2018 1985 01:51:16,229 --> 01:51:20,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: and soon after her brother Luis followed suit. Then after 1986 01:51:20,340 --> 01:51:23,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: many years sitting in the grandstands watching her two children 1987 01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:27,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: run the marathon, their mother decided to lace up herself, 1988 01:51:27,060 --> 01:51:30,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: completing her first New York City Marathon at the age 1989 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: of 65. But it doesn't stop there, keep your 1990 01:51:33,689 --> 01:51:36,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: eyes out for this coming November 2nd, because in this 1991 01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:41,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: year's 2025 TCS New York City Marathon, the Gonzalez family will 1992 01:51:41,850 --> 01:51:46,979 Rob Simmelkjaer: be all in. Teresita, Luis, their mother and their youngest 1993 01:51:46,979 --> 01:51:51,359 Rob Simmelkjaer: sister will all be on the start line together. Teresita 1994 01:51:51,359 --> 01:51:53,639 Rob Simmelkjaer: and Luis are here with us today to talk about 1995 01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:58,108 Rob Simmelkjaer: running, family and their upcoming spring marathons. Take it away, Meb. 1996 01:51:58,740 --> 01:52:02,880 Meb: Thanks Rob. Teresita, looking at your race history, it 1997 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,460 Meb: seems like you were the first in the family to start 1998 01:52:05,460 --> 01:52:09,510 Meb: running back in 2018, what got you started? 1999 01:52:10,379 --> 01:52:13,680 Teresita Gonzalez: Some health issues that arose in 2017, I decided to 2000 01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:18,630 Teresita Gonzalez: do a 5K. After liking my 5K, I decided to 2001 01:52:18,630 --> 01:52:21,540 Teresita Gonzalez: venture off onto the New York City Marathon website, and 2002 01:52:21,540 --> 01:52:24,210 Teresita Gonzalez: I saw that I could run the New York City Marathon 2003 01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:29,160 Teresita Gonzalez: in 2018. I discovered Team for Kids, and I ran 2004 01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:31,650 Teresita Gonzalez: my first New York City Marathon in 2018. We 2005 01:52:31,650 --> 01:52:33,330 Teresita Gonzalez: were fundraising for a wonderful cause. 2006 01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:38,608 Meb: Awesome, Teresita. And you have your brother, Luis. Was it 2007 01:52:38,609 --> 01:52:41,910 Meb: Teresita, Luis, who inspired you to start running or was 2008 01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:43,470 Meb: there another moment that pulled you in? 2009 01:52:44,729 --> 01:52:49,229 Luis Gonzalez: I grew up playing soccer, so I think she was 2010 01:52:49,229 --> 01:52:53,519 Luis Gonzalez: the catalyst behind the decision. We did try to do 2011 01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,070 Luis Gonzalez: a 9+ 1 one year, I think the year before 2012 01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:58,889 Luis Gonzalez: COVID. So I was in line to run the marathon that 2013 01:52:58,890 --> 01:53:03,000 Luis Gonzalez: following year. But then one night we stayed out 2014 01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,520 Luis Gonzalez: too late and I missed one of my races the 2015 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:09,000 Luis Gonzalez: next morning. And so then I had to wait until 2016 01:53:09,390 --> 01:53:12,930 Luis Gonzalez: the year after and because I didn't have my 9+ 2017 01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:14,910 Luis Gonzalez: 1, the only way I could sign up to run 2018 01:53:14,910 --> 01:53:17,400 Luis Gonzalez: the New York City Marathon was fundraising through Team for 2019 01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,858 Luis Gonzalez: Kids. So that's how it all came together. 2020 01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,740 Meb: So sports has been part of your family. I love 2021 01:53:22,740 --> 01:53:25,799 Meb: soccer as well. But your mother's story is incredible. She 2022 01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:30,000 Meb: went from watching you race to running a marathon at 65. 2023 01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,939 Meb: What was it like crossing that finish line with 2024 01:53:32,939 --> 01:53:34,619 Meb: your 65- year- old mother? 2025 01:53:35,189 --> 01:53:37,559 Luis Gonzalez: We grew up on the course, we grew up on 2026 01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:42,450 Luis Gonzalez: Fourth Avenue, so every year the marathon was always the first 2027 01:53:42,450 --> 01:53:45,390 Luis Gonzalez: Sunday in November, it was always around my birthday. So 2028 01:53:45,390 --> 01:53:47,280 Luis Gonzalez: it was always a good thing to go just run 2029 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:49,650 Luis Gonzalez: up the street and see all the runners, get the 2030 01:53:49,650 --> 01:53:54,570 Luis Gonzalez: high five, just putting your hand out, just watching everybody 2031 01:53:54,570 --> 01:53:57,869 Luis Gonzalez: run. And in my head I'm always like, these people are 2032 01:53:57,869 --> 01:54:01,620 Luis Gonzalez: crazy, 26 miles, I would never do this. And 2033 01:54:01,620 --> 01:54:05,160 Luis Gonzalez: then you fast- forward 20 years later, there I am 2034 01:54:06,210 --> 01:54:07,920 Luis Gonzalez: lining up at the start line. 2035 01:54:08,580 --> 01:54:12,000 Meb: What's your perspective, Teresita, on your finish with your mother? 2036 01:54:12,659 --> 01:54:15,599 Teresita Gonzalez: It was emotional, I had a little bit more experience 2037 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,580 Teresita Gonzalez: with my mom because I was helping her train. I 2038 01:54:17,580 --> 01:54:21,570 Teresita Gonzalez: decided to take back my running season that year to 2039 01:54:21,570 --> 01:54:25,890 Teresita Gonzalez: help her through the run, walking segments, help train her. 2040 01:54:25,890 --> 01:54:28,560 Teresita Gonzalez: That way she felt comfortable. And being able to see 2041 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:32,040 Teresita Gonzalez: firsthand the emotional and physical wellbeing that it did 2042 01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:35,400 Teresita Gonzalez: to her was great. And then having our family along 2043 01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:38,010 Teresita Gonzalez: the course cheering us on, our nieces, our nephew, our 2044 01:54:38,010 --> 01:54:41,820 Teresita Gonzalez: cousins, the whole family out there was very exciting and 2045 01:54:41,820 --> 01:54:44,400 Teresita Gonzalez: was very heartwarming. And now I look forward to this 2046 01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,250 Teresita Gonzalez: November, sharing that experience now with my little sister. 2047 01:54:48,060 --> 01:54:51,540 Meb: This is incredible story. So this November, this coming year, 2048 01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:56,190 Meb: your whole family, Team Gonzalez, your mother, your younger sister, 2049 01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:59,640 Meb: and the two of you will be running NYC together. 2050 01:54:59,970 --> 01:55:01,230 Meb: What does that mean to you? 2051 01:55:01,770 --> 01:55:06,030 Teresita Gonzalez: For me, it's a full circle. Lots of things are 2052 01:55:06,030 --> 01:55:08,880 Teresita Gonzalez: happening this year for me personally. But being able to 2053 01:55:09,510 --> 01:55:13,619 Teresita Gonzalez: put my sister out there, have her train for a marathon, 2054 01:55:13,619 --> 01:55:15,420 Teresita Gonzalez: for her to get to know her body on another 2055 01:55:15,420 --> 01:55:20,340 Teresita Gonzalez: level, it's just good family moments for me and happiness 2056 01:55:20,340 --> 01:55:20,850 Teresita Gonzalez: all around. 2057 01:55:22,290 --> 01:55:23,640 Meb: Wonderful. What about you, Luis? 2058 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:29,369 Luis Gonzalez: The same thing. Sometimes you take time for granted, you 2059 01:55:29,369 --> 01:55:31,950 Luis Gonzalez: take family for granted, you're always busy. New York 2060 01:55:31,950 --> 01:55:34,890 Luis Gonzalez: City's very fast- paced, you work, work, work, work, work. 2061 01:55:34,890 --> 01:55:37,740 Luis Gonzalez: And then you don't have time for anything else. Even 2062 01:55:37,740 --> 01:55:39,690 Luis Gonzalez: training for your own marathon, you're like, okay, where do 2063 01:55:39,690 --> 01:55:41,220 Luis Gonzalez: you fit in the time? Do you have to wake 2064 01:55:41,220 --> 01:55:44,040 Luis Gonzalez: up earlier? It's still 24 hours in a day, so you 2065 01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,619 Luis Gonzalez: got to make the time. So I think this is 2066 01:55:46,619 --> 01:55:49,470 Luis Gonzalez: good for the whole family to kind of ... it's a 2067 01:55:49,470 --> 01:55:51,900 Luis Gonzalez: good time to spend together. When we trained with my 2068 01:55:51,900 --> 01:55:54,900 Luis Gonzalez: mom, we would take her with all our friends, introduce 2069 01:55:54,900 --> 01:55:57,300 Luis Gonzalez: her to everybody and be like, " Hey Ma, you have 2070 01:55:57,300 --> 01:56:00,000 Luis Gonzalez: to say hi to these people, these are our friends. 2071 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:02,220 Luis Gonzalez: These are the people that are helping you that 2072 01:56:02,220 --> 01:56:06,000 Luis Gonzalez: donated to your cause, you have to be polite." And 2073 01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:11,400 Luis Gonzalez: then for my sister, we're trying to help her break 2074 01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:15,270 Luis Gonzalez: out of her shell. And I feel like this will 2075 01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:18,540 Luis Gonzalez: be fun for her, for her to get this mental 2076 01:56:18,540 --> 01:56:22,980 Luis Gonzalez: aspect of her, build her resilience up, see what you're 2077 01:56:22,980 --> 01:56:25,410 Luis Gonzalez: capable of. There is a lot more to do out 2078 01:56:25,410 --> 01:56:30,000 Luis Gonzalez: there. And being able to, for us to travel 26.2 2079 01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:33,060 Luis Gonzalez: miles together, I think it'll be a great moment. And 2080 01:56:33,330 --> 01:56:36,510 Luis Gonzalez: the pictures that we have from last year are forever. 2081 01:56:37,500 --> 01:56:41,850 Meb: Absolutely. Family that runs together sticks together. And to see 2082 01:56:41,850 --> 01:56:47,100 Meb: you guys in a positive environment is amazing. So, Teresita, you 2083 01:56:47,100 --> 01:56:50,879 Meb: were one of the just six women accepted into NYRR's 2084 01:56:50,970 --> 01:56:55,170 Meb: first ever Game Changers cohort. Can you tell us what 2085 01:56:55,170 --> 01:56:57,869 Meb: that program is and what it means for you as 2086 01:56:57,869 --> 01:56:58,380 Meb: a coach? 2087 01:56:59,580 --> 01:57:03,359 Teresita Gonzalez: Game Changer is a program founded by Vanessa. She is 2088 01:57:03,359 --> 01:57:05,340 Teresita Gonzalez: on a mission to increase the number of women of 2089 01:57:05,340 --> 01:57:09,090 Teresita Gonzalez: color in the running industry. So for this cohort, she 2090 01:57:09,090 --> 01:57:12,720 Teresita Gonzalez: partnered up with New York Road Runners and Brooks. And 2091 01:57:12,869 --> 01:57:16,260 Teresita Gonzalez: this is a focus within the five boroughs. I was 2092 01:57:16,260 --> 01:57:18,330 Teresita Gonzalez: one of the six, about 50 women applied in New 2093 01:57:18,330 --> 01:57:21,210 Teresita Gonzalez: York City of color. And this is very special to 2094 01:57:21,210 --> 01:57:24,570 Teresita Gonzalez: me. Since 2019, I've been mentoring with Team for Kids, 2095 01:57:24,570 --> 01:57:27,510 Teresita Gonzalez: so I've had friends and family pitch the idea that 2096 01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:30,481 Teresita Gonzalez: maybe I should take up being a running coach. 2097 01:57:30,810 --> 01:57:33,510 Teresita Gonzalez: But I just didn't have the time for it back 2098 01:57:33,510 --> 01:57:36,720 Teresita Gonzalez: then. And now with this cohort, things aligned for me. 2099 01:57:36,750 --> 01:57:39,480 Teresita Gonzalez: And now I have the time to be able to 2100 01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:46,350 Teresita Gonzalez: dedicate myself to study, look up different ... just study and 2101 01:57:46,350 --> 01:57:48,270 Teresita Gonzalez: do lots of research on what it is to become 2102 01:57:48,270 --> 01:57:51,480 Teresita Gonzalez: a running coach. And I look forward to helping people 2103 01:57:53,100 --> 01:57:55,710 Teresita Gonzalez: step on the start line for their marathons. 2104 01:57:56,190 --> 01:57:59,550 Meb: Pretty incredible. You have case study with your family, do 2105 01:57:59,550 --> 01:58:02,460 Meb: a lot of research on, so keep it up. Luis, how is 2106 01:58:02,460 --> 01:58:04,380 Meb: your training going for the London Marathon? 2107 01:58:04,710 --> 01:58:08,490 Luis Gonzalez: I think it's been pretty good. I guess, this would 2108 01:58:08,490 --> 01:58:11,340 Luis Gonzalez: be my third spring marathon. It's always hard. And this 2109 01:58:11,340 --> 01:58:14,880 Luis Gonzalez: has been the coldest one I would say. I'm a 2110 01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:17,340 Luis Gonzalez: bigger fan of the cold, but sometimes the cold is 2111 01:58:17,340 --> 01:58:20,070 Luis Gonzalez: just ... with the wind and everything like that. When you're 2112 01:58:20,070 --> 01:58:21,990 Luis Gonzalez: trying to get the speed workouts and you got a 2113 01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:25,770 Luis Gonzalez: headwind instead of a tailwind, it's a little rough. But 2114 01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:29,640 Luis Gonzalez: it's always good, half the battle is just getting out 2115 01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:30,869 Luis Gonzalez: there and then the rest just comes. 2116 01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,230 Meb: The hardest part is lacing the shoes up and getting out 2117 01:58:34,230 --> 01:58:36,330 Meb: the door. Once you get out, you're going to get it done and you're going to 2118 01:58:36,330 --> 01:58:39,150 Meb: get even motivated and also inspire others who watch you 2119 01:58:39,150 --> 01:58:42,540 Meb: run. So good luck there. And then, Teresa, you are 2120 01:58:42,540 --> 01:58:46,859 Meb: taking the Boston marathon and London within weeks to earn 2121 01:58:46,859 --> 01:58:51,119 Meb: your six star medal. What's your game plan for recovery 2122 01:58:51,119 --> 01:58:52,140 Meb: between the two races? 2123 01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:56,100 Teresita Gonzalez: I'm coming back home that Monday night from Boston, so 2124 01:58:56,100 --> 01:58:59,400 Teresita Gonzalez: I'm just going to rest, hydrate and do lots of 2125 01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,440 Teresita Gonzalez: ice baths. That way I can have some fresh 2126 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:02,670 Teresita Gonzalez: legs for the following Sunday. 2127 01:59:02,669 --> 01:59:03,450 Meb: From Monday to Sunday, right? 2128 01:59:03,450 --> 01:59:05,790 Teresita Gonzalez: From Monday to Sunday, yes. 2129 01:59:06,690 --> 01:59:10,200 Meb: Incredible. Well, I'm so delighted to interview you guys. And 2130 01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:12,420 Meb: thank you for all the hard work that you do for Team for Kids 2131 01:59:12,420 --> 01:59:16,410 Meb: and Team Gonzalez. 2025 is going to be special. So I 2132 01:59:16,410 --> 01:59:17,369 Meb: wish you guys all the best. 2133 01:59:22,170 --> 01:59:23,340 Teresita Gonzalez: Thank you so much, Meb. 2134 01:59:23,340 --> 01:59:23,461 Luis Gonzalez: Thank you. 2135 01:59:23,461 --> 01:59:26,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, thank you, Meb. And thank you Teresita and Luis for joining us and for being members 2136 01:59:26,820 --> 01:59:29,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: of New York Road Runners and Team for Kids. Great 2137 01:59:29,609 --> 01:59:31,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: story. Now today's Meb Minute. 2138 01:59:32,670 --> 01:59:37,440 Meb: Traveling is important. You know me, I'm a visualization person, 2139 01:59:37,530 --> 01:59:40,590 Meb: I visualize my race, but I also visualize my packing 2140 01:59:40,590 --> 01:59:43,770 Meb: list. So when you are traveling for a race, make 2141 01:59:43,770 --> 01:59:47,490 Meb: sure you book your flights and hotels early. Arrive to 2142 01:59:47,490 --> 01:59:52,109 Meb: a destination early. Pack all the necessaries on carry- on. 2143 01:59:52,109 --> 01:59:54,600 Meb: I cannot emphasize on this one because I made one 2144 01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:58,859 Meb: big mistake. There's a law that says Murphy's Law, anything 2145 01:59:58,859 --> 02:00:01,470 Meb: that can go wrong, it will go wrong. And 2146 02:00:01,470 --> 02:00:04,800 Meb: on a direct flight from San Diego to New York, 2147 02:00:05,490 --> 02:00:09,900 Meb: I had my first daughter, and we are going to travel. How can 2148 02:00:09,900 --> 02:00:12,030 Meb: anything get lost on a direct flight? I did not 2149 02:00:12,030 --> 02:00:14,640 Meb: have my carry- on. I just packed everything check in. 2150 02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:18,420 Meb: And my luggage never made it. So be careful as 2151 02:00:18,450 --> 02:00:21,900 Meb: you plan your travels. Carry- on is the way to 2152 02:00:21,900 --> 02:00:26,879 Meb: go. Sometimes time zone, time zone accumulation or adaptation is 2153 02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:29,310 Meb: important. For me, I used to get up, when I 2154 02:00:29,310 --> 02:00:31,920 Meb: was in the West Coast, get up really early, 5 2155 02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:37,200 Meb: AM my time, which is 8 AM in Eastern Standard 2156 02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:39,570 Meb: Time. So you have to be really careful. And as 2157 02:00:39,570 --> 02:00:42,690 Meb: you travel, gets on that plane, before the plane, you 2158 02:00:42,690 --> 02:00:44,040 Meb: got a lot of things going on. But once you get on 2159 02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:48,030 Meb: the plane, you are out of control. Do what you can, 2160 02:00:48,030 --> 02:00:52,200 Meb: just now relax. As you travel, walk around. It's important 2161 02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:55,200 Meb: to move around in the plane. Sometimes you go where 2162 02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:57,750 Meb: the flight attendants sit, go there and stretch a little 2163 02:00:57,750 --> 02:00:59,369 Meb: bit. Tell them about yourself. You're getting ready for a 2164 02:00:59,369 --> 02:01:02,220 Meb: half marathon, getting ready for a marathon. The flight 2165 02:01:02,220 --> 02:01:04,230 Meb: attendant might be kind enough to give you water or 2166 02:01:04,230 --> 02:01:07,740 Meb: snacks and things like that. So my thing is think 2167 02:01:07,740 --> 02:01:11,730 Meb: ahead, travel well and run to win to the best 2168 02:01:11,730 --> 02:01:14,550 Meb: that you can on race day. And more importantly, have 2169 02:01:14,550 --> 02:01:17,160 Meb: fun once you get to the destination. Think about the 2170 02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:21,180 Meb: race, smell the air, feel the temperature, and soak in 2171 02:01:21,180 --> 02:01:24,930 Meb: all the atmosphere because you are celebrating one of the 2172 02:01:24,930 --> 02:01:26,820 Meb: great accomplishments you're going to achieve. 2173 02:01:27,090 --> 02:01:30,001 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, that does it for a true marathon episode 2174 02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:32,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: of Set The Pace. We had to give you that 2175 02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:37,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: of course. Thanks to today's guests, Corey Wharton Malcolm, Austin 2176 02:01:37,140 --> 02:01:41,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: Curtis and Teresita and Luis Gonzalez. Great conversations with all 2177 02:01:41,670 --> 02:01:44,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: of you. Remember, if you like this episode, make sure 2178 02:01:44,610 --> 02:01:47,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: you subscribe, rate it or leave a comment or review 2179 02:01:47,850 --> 02:01:51,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: so other folks can find it as well. Enjoy the 2180 02:01:51,330 --> 02:01:54,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: miles everybody. We'll see you for our special 100th edition 2181 02:01:54,540 --> 02:01:56,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: of Set The Pace next week.