1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,600 Vinny Guadagnino: Sometimes people are like, " Oh, is working out or is 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,720 Vinny Guadagnino: running or is eating right the cure for mental health?" 3 00:00:07,410 --> 00:00:08,910 Vinny Guadagnino: I don't think it's the cure, I think it's just 4 00:00:08,910 --> 00:00:13,350 Vinny Guadagnino: part of the puzzle, because obviously if I'm focused on 5 00:00:13,350 --> 00:00:17,910 Vinny Guadagnino: something else and I'm focusing on this goal, the less 6 00:00:17,910 --> 00:00:22,890 Vinny Guadagnino: I have to worry about myself and internalizing everything and 7 00:00:23,130 --> 00:00:26,759 Vinny Guadagnino: my brain spinning around. So I always love having, especially 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,900 Vinny Guadagnino: these official races, because for months leading up to it, 9 00:00:30,900 --> 00:00:33,450 Vinny Guadagnino: I have a plan, I have a goal, and I'm 10 00:00:33,450 --> 00:00:36,659 Vinny Guadagnino: not just sitting around collecting my own negative thoughts. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,820 Speaker 2: Thank you, New York. Today, we're reminded of the power 12 00:00:44,820 --> 00:00:49,650 Speaker 2: of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on 13 00:00:49,650 --> 00:00:50,250 Speaker 2: your mark. 14 00:00:52,380 --> 00:00:55,950 Speaker 3: The first woman to finish for the second straight year 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,780 Speaker 3: Miki Gorman. And why not? 17 00:01:01,050 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: 2: 29:30, the time for Grete Waitz. 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,958 Speaker 5: Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,230 Speaker 5: to the line. Pointing to his chest, pointing to the 20 00:01:10,290 --> 00:01:14,130 Speaker 5: USA he so proudly wears across his chest. A great 21 00:01:14,130 --> 00:01:20,730 Speaker 5: day for Meb Keflezighi. 22 00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:23,850 Becs Gentry: Welcome to Set the Pace, the official podcast of New 23 00:01:23,850 --> 00:01:27,630 Becs Gentry: York Road Runners, presented by Peloton. I'm your host, Becs 24 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:30,780 Becs Gentry: Gentry. Fresh off an incredible weekend with New York Road 25 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:34,530 Becs Gentry: Runners and the United Airlines NYC Half. My co- host, 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,770 Becs Gentry: Rob Simmelkjaer, CEO of New York Road Runners is out 27 00:01:37,770 --> 00:01:40,620 Becs Gentry: today, so we can't get his thoughts on the incredible 28 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:43,920 Becs Gentry: weekend. But I'm here to tell you, I was in 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,709 Becs Gentry: the broadcast booth and at the finish line, and oh 30 00:01:46,709 --> 00:01:52,080 Becs Gentry: my goodness, was it a wonderful day? Not only did 31 00:01:52,140 --> 00:01:58,230 Becs Gentry: we see more than 28,600 finishers cross the iconic finish 32 00:01:58,230 --> 00:02:02,250 Becs Gentry: line in Central Park, but it was a new event 33 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:06,510 Becs Gentry: course. And so pretty much everybody, right? They got their 34 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:09,690 Becs Gentry: PR over this new incredible course which took in the 35 00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:14,490 Becs Gentry: historic Brooklyn Bridge. I am sure if you're listening to 36 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:17,280 Becs Gentry: this and you ran the race on Sunday, you are 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,720 Becs Gentry: still absolutely gleaming with pride over your day. And even 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,359 Becs Gentry: though the clouds were low and the view wasn't quite 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,510 Becs Gentry: what we'd hoped for you all, it was still something 40 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:32,970 Becs Gentry: to be taken in. So, 28, 600 finishers, that is the 41 00:02:32,970 --> 00:02:36,480 Becs Gentry: most ever in the event, and in New York Road 42 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,190 Becs Gentry: Runners half- marathon history. Unreal. We are so proud of 43 00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:43,889 Becs Gentry: everybody, and as always, a huge thanks to all of 44 00:02:43,889 --> 00:02:46,560 Becs Gentry: the volunteers who were out at the start, along the 45 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,020 Becs Gentry: course and at the finish line to make the day 46 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:53,519 Becs Gentry: go as smoothly as it did. We saw some really 47 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,230 Becs Gentry: awesome running. From the professional field, we saw Abel Kipchumba 48 00:02:58,260 --> 00:03:03,150 Becs Gentry: in the men's open coming in 59: 09. He successfully 49 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:07,290 Becs Gentry: defended his 2024 title at this race, and provided us 50 00:03:07,290 --> 00:03:10,950 Becs Gentry: all with some really interesting running. If you guys want 51 00:03:10,950 --> 00:03:13,620 Becs Gentry: to catch up on it, there were some really cool 52 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,800 Becs Gentry: points where he was zigzagging across the road just after 53 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,950 Becs Gentry: Times Square, trying to drop the American record holder over 54 00:03:19,950 --> 00:03:22,680 Becs Gentry: the half, Conner Mantz. So have a look if you're 55 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,350 Becs Gentry: interested in that side of things. On the women's side, 56 00:03:25,350 --> 00:03:29,130 Becs Gentry: the women's open champ, Sharon Lokedi, came over the line in a 107: 57 00:03:29,130 --> 00:03:34,290 Becs Gentry: 04, fresh off her birthday energy with her mom, Rose, 58 00:03:34,290 --> 00:03:37,470 Becs Gentry: at the finish line. It was such a beautiful race 59 00:03:37,530 --> 00:03:41,310 Becs Gentry: to see. On the wheelchair division, Geert Schipper was the 60 00:03:41,310 --> 00:03:47,280 Becs Gentry: men's wheelchair division champion in 49: 53, also defending his 2024 61 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:50,309 Becs Gentry: title. So huge congrats to him. He had his daughter 62 00:03:50,310 --> 00:03:54,900 Becs Gentry: here, who self- admittedly was playing hooky from school, but 63 00:03:54,930 --> 00:03:57,150 Becs Gentry: I think we all agree that she probably learned more 64 00:03:57,510 --> 00:04:00,870 Becs Gentry: on this trip with her incredible father. And then on 65 00:04:00,870 --> 00:04:03,600 Becs Gentry: the women's side, the women's wheelchair division champ was Manuela 66 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Becs Gentry: Schar in 54: 09. She returned to the top of the 67 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,590 Becs Gentry: podium for the first time since 2022 at this race, 68 00:04:10,590 --> 00:04:15,540 Becs Gentry: and she raced so, so strong. So strong. All the 69 00:04:15,540 --> 00:04:20,820 Becs Gentry: way, just absolutely showing that she was here to rule. 70 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:23,490 Becs Gentry: Okay, coming up on the show today, we will be 71 00:04:23,490 --> 00:04:27,990 Becs Gentry: basking in all things United Airlines NYC Half. Our featured 72 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:34,800 Becs Gentry: guest is none other than the Jersey Shore's Vinny Guadagnino. 73 00:04:35,820 --> 00:04:38,460 Becs Gentry: Yep. He ran his first official half- marathon with New 74 00:04:38,460 --> 00:04:42,420 Becs Gentry: York Road Runners on Sunday. Today's featured member is Marissa 75 00:04:42,420 --> 00:04:46,650 Becs Gentry: Cotrina, who ran her 49th half- marathon this past weekend. 76 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,310 Becs Gentry: And today, our Meb Minute will feature Hospital for Special 77 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:53,279 Becs Gentry: Surgery's Kate Baird. Meb and Kate will be talking about 78 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,860 Becs Gentry: everything you need to know to bridge the gap between half- 79 00:04:55,860 --> 00:05:00,900 Becs Gentry: marathon recovery and full marathon prep. So stay tuned. Ready 80 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:03,510 Becs Gentry: to hit your stride? Whether you're training for your next 81 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:06,210 Becs Gentry: race or just lacing up for a run, no matter 82 00:05:06,210 --> 00:05:09,450 Becs Gentry: your level, the Peloton app has everything you need to 83 00:05:09,450 --> 00:05:13,200 Becs Gentry: keep you moving. Track your progress with real- time metrics 84 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:16,260 Becs Gentry: and celebrate those streaks and personal bests along the way/ 85 00:05:16,770 --> 00:05:19,740 Becs Gentry: with thousands of classes to choose from, or the option 86 00:05:19,740 --> 00:05:22,980 Becs Gentry: to just run or just walk, Peloton makes it easy 87 00:05:22,980 --> 00:05:29,700 Becs Gentry: to fit fitness into your routine. Learn more at onepeloton. com/ race- 88 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:34,680 Becs Gentry: training. Peloton, the official digital fitness partner for New York 89 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Becs Gentry: Road Runners. Everyone knows today's guest, Vinny Guadagnino, because Vinny is 90 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,380 Becs Gentry: one of the most recognizable names from the Jersey Shore. 91 00:05:43,980 --> 00:05:46,740 Becs Gentry: But lately, Vinny has been logging more miles than late 92 00:05:46,740 --> 00:05:49,440 Becs Gentry: nights. Just a few years ago, Vinny struggled to run 93 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,289 Becs Gentry: even a few miles, but in 2024 he completed his 94 00:05:52,290 --> 00:05:56,190 Becs Gentry: first marathon, the TCS New York City Marathon. And now, 95 00:05:56,250 --> 00:06:00,210 Becs Gentry: fresh off his finish at this past weekend's United Airlines 96 00:06:00,450 --> 00:06:03,930 Becs Gentry: NYC Half, Vinny is proving that he has truly become 97 00:06:03,930 --> 00:06:06,659 Becs Gentry: a runner. Today, he joins us to talk about his 98 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:10,320 Becs Gentry: training, how running has helped his mental health, and what it's 99 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,980 Becs Gentry: like to have thousands of people cheering you on through 100 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,060 Becs Gentry: the streets of New York. Vinny, what a pleasure to 101 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:19,680 Becs Gentry: meet you. Thank you for coming on today. 102 00:06:20,250 --> 00:06:23,460 Vinny Guadagnino: Thanks for having me. You are Italian. You pronounced my 103 00:06:23,460 --> 00:06:26,220 Vinny Guadagnino: last name very good. Not a lot of people could 104 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:29,310 Vinny Guadagnino: do that. I was a little scared for a second. 105 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,620 Becs Gentry: The practice comes in useful. 106 00:06:32,490 --> 00:06:34,799 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah, no, it's good to be here. Like I said, you were my 107 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,870 Vinny Guadagnino: first Peloton tread class I ever took, so this is exciting. I'm getting into the 108 00:06:39,870 --> 00:06:43,140 Vinny Guadagnino: whole runner's world slowly but surely. 109 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,800 Becs Gentry: Fantastic. Well, thank you for taking my class, for one. 110 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,940 Becs Gentry: And you are in a wonderful community. I'm sure you know 111 00:06:50,940 --> 00:06:52,410 Becs Gentry: that. I'm sure you don't need me to tell you 112 00:06:52,410 --> 00:06:55,470 Becs Gentry: that, but it is one that will stick by your 113 00:06:55,470 --> 00:06:59,190 Becs Gentry: side even when you're totally alone or when you are 114 00:06:59,190 --> 00:07:01,890 Becs Gentry: running through the streets of New York. But let's talk 115 00:07:01,890 --> 00:07:04,320 Becs Gentry: about that. Let's talk about how you have gotten into 116 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,110 Becs Gentry: running and the transformation that it's had on your life. 117 00:07:07,110 --> 00:07:11,970 Becs Gentry: So, you rose to fame with the TV show, Jersey 118 00:07:11,970 --> 00:07:16,080 Becs Gentry: Shore. I'm pretty sure everyone has watched that show. Whether 119 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Becs Gentry: they have watched it regularly or not, people know about 120 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Becs Gentry: it. Right? 121 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:23,430 Vinny Guadagnino: I thought you were going to say whether they like 122 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:24,360 Vinny Guadagnino: to admit it or not. 123 00:07:24,780 --> 00:07:27,030 Becs Gentry: Oh, I mean there is that too. We were just 124 00:07:27,030 --> 00:07:30,000 Becs Gentry: talking pre- show about Geordie Shore in the UK, Jersey 125 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,450 Becs Gentry: Shore over here, and there is like this juxtaposition of 126 00:07:33,450 --> 00:07:35,550 Becs Gentry: people either love it or hate it. It's a Marmite, 127 00:07:35,550 --> 00:07:39,000 Becs Gentry: as we say in the UK, but I think most 128 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,790 Becs Gentry: people love it, even if it's a guilty pleasure, it's 129 00:07:41,790 --> 00:07:46,110 Becs Gentry: great for you. So, talk to me about how you 130 00:07:46,110 --> 00:07:49,500 Becs Gentry: went from reality TV star, a lifestyle that is fast- 131 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:52,230 Becs Gentry: paced but in a very different way from running. What 132 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:56,670 Becs Gentry: was the turning point that inspired you to take running, 133 00:07:56,670 --> 00:07:58,200 Becs Gentry: not just as a hobby, but take it a little 134 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,250 Becs Gentry: bit more seriously? 135 00:08:02,610 --> 00:08:06,090 Vinny Guadagnino: For me, I think that, and this sounds kind of just simple, but well, I've 136 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:08,610 Vinny Guadagnino: always been into health and fitness, number one. I always 137 00:08:08,610 --> 00:08:13,500 Vinny Guadagnino: like to burn calories, and whether it's jump roping, playing 138 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:16,410 Vinny Guadagnino: basketball, whatever it is, I need to always be moving. 139 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:20,220 Vinny Guadagnino: And then when it came time to just find my 140 00:08:20,490 --> 00:08:23,040 Vinny Guadagnino: next sport, it really had to do with where I 141 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,640 Vinny Guadagnino: live. So, when I lived in Staten Island, New York, 142 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,790 Vinny Guadagnino: I even lived in LA for a little bit, running 143 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:35,250 Vinny Guadagnino: wasn't really the best activity, because you go outside and 144 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,590 Vinny Guadagnino: you might just be in a weird area, like on 145 00:08:37,590 --> 00:08:40,050 Vinny Guadagnino: the side of a highway, or you might have to 146 00:08:40,050 --> 00:08:42,300 Vinny Guadagnino: drive. When I was in LA, I had to like 147 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:46,859 Vinny Guadagnino: drive to get to a flat area. But now I 148 00:08:46,860 --> 00:08:49,949 Vinny Guadagnino: live in Manhattan, I live in the city, and you 149 00:08:49,950 --> 00:08:53,579 Vinny Guadagnino: just go downstairs and then boom, the whole city is 150 00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:56,070 Vinny Guadagnino: your track. And especially, I live near like the West 151 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:59,910 Vinny Guadagnino: Side Highway. So, that's how it started. I was just like, " 152 00:08:59,910 --> 00:09:02,340 Vinny Guadagnino: I see these people running." And I had never even 153 00:09:02,340 --> 00:09:06,179 Vinny Guadagnino: ran on, the West Side Highway is like the water, 154 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,990 Vinny Guadagnino: and I had never ran there before, and I was like, " 155 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:12,600 Vinny Guadagnino: Let me just try it." And then like I just 156 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,570 Vinny Guadagnino: ran two miles and I was like, " This is amazing. 157 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:19,980 Vinny Guadagnino: There's people outside, there's all energy around." And it's so 158 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:23,010 Vinny Guadagnino: motivating because you see just people smoking you. And that's 159 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:26,939 Vinny Guadagnino: kind of like what got me started. And then, pretty 160 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:30,630 Vinny Guadagnino: much just like one mile became two, two became three, 161 00:09:30,929 --> 00:09:35,100 Vinny Guadagnino: then eventually I probably did 10. And then I did 162 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:39,270 Vinny Guadagnino: a little like unsanctioned half- marathon with my friends, 'cause 163 00:09:39,270 --> 00:09:42,840 Vinny Guadagnino: you start to meet people that run as well. But 164 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,510 Vinny Guadagnino: then just like somewhere along the line, I linked up 165 00:09:45,510 --> 00:09:50,850 Vinny Guadagnino: with my coach, Coach Jay, and then started to get 166 00:09:50,850 --> 00:09:53,970 Vinny Guadagnino: like a little bit more of a regimen, he gave 167 00:09:53,970 --> 00:09:59,339 Vinny Guadagnino: me a training plan, and then we did the Bronx 168 00:09:59,370 --> 00:10:00,179 Vinny Guadagnino: 10 Mile. 169 00:10:00,328 --> 00:10:01,199 Becs Gentry: Amazing race. 170 00:10:01,290 --> 00:10:05,790 Vinny Guadagnino: That was like my first really official Road Runners race. And 171 00:10:05,790 --> 00:10:08,550 Vinny Guadagnino: then from there I got the bug to keep doing 172 00:10:08,970 --> 00:10:13,380 Vinny Guadagnino: Road Runners racing, 'cause it's such a great organization, it's 173 00:10:13,410 --> 00:10:15,809 Vinny Guadagnino: so fun. And then we just had the dream of 174 00:10:15,809 --> 00:10:20,550 Vinny Guadagnino: doing the full know, and kind of didn't know how that 175 00:10:20,550 --> 00:10:21,990 Vinny Guadagnino: was going to turn out, but it ended up being 176 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:25,349 Vinny Guadagnino: amazing. And here I am today, and then two days 177 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:26,850 Vinny Guadagnino: ago we did my first official half. 178 00:10:27,630 --> 00:10:31,620 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh. Well, congratulations on the half. I saw you 179 00:10:31,620 --> 00:10:34,800 Becs Gentry: come over the finish line. I was on the broadcast 180 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,080 Becs Gentry: booth on the side, and I got to catch you 181 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:43,050 Becs Gentry: coming over the finish line. Very happy. So obviously, the 182 00:10:43,050 --> 00:10:46,050 Becs Gentry: half was two days ago, so you're probably still riding 183 00:10:46,050 --> 00:10:49,350 Becs Gentry: the high of that. Let's rewind to the big one, 184 00:10:49,410 --> 00:10:52,829 Becs Gentry: the TCS New York City Marathon. You said you had 185 00:10:52,830 --> 00:10:57,750 Becs Gentry: a dream just then, to do this amazing 26.2 mile 186 00:10:57,750 --> 00:11:01,530 Becs Gentry: journey through the five boroughs of New York. Let's go 187 00:11:01,530 --> 00:11:03,089 Becs Gentry: straight to the start, as we just talked about the 188 00:11:03,090 --> 00:11:05,520 Becs Gentry: start. What was the first thing that went through your 189 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,320 Becs Gentry: mind as you crossed the finish line in Central Park 190 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:07,829 Becs Gentry: on that day? 191 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:10,290 Vinny Guadagnino: You know what's funny? I don't know if this ever 192 00:11:10,290 --> 00:11:14,550 Vinny Guadagnino: happened to you, but I remember when I just started 193 00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:18,270 Vinny Guadagnino: running, or even when I even ran a half, even 194 00:11:18,270 --> 00:11:20,730 Vinny Guadagnino: when I was well into running, I always said to myself, " 195 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:24,660 Vinny Guadagnino: I can't imagine ever running a full, I can't imagine 196 00:11:24,660 --> 00:11:28,710 Vinny Guadagnino: ever running 26 miles." And now, I kind of forgot 197 00:11:28,740 --> 00:11:31,740 Vinny Guadagnino: what that felt like. You know what I mean? I'm like, " 198 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:33,780 Vinny Guadagnino: Oh yeah, I ran a marathon." And people react to 199 00:11:33,780 --> 00:11:36,059 Vinny Guadagnino: you like, " Oh wow, that's so much, 26 miles." I'm like, " 200 00:11:36,059 --> 00:11:39,569 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah, 26, whatever." But yeah, I kind of forgot what 201 00:11:39,570 --> 00:11:43,020 Vinny Guadagnino: it was like to just realize what an amazing feat 202 00:11:43,020 --> 00:11:46,709 Vinny Guadagnino: that is of how many miles that is. Because once 203 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:47,940 Vinny Guadagnino: you do it, you just do it. Right? 204 00:11:49,830 --> 00:11:50,100 Becs Gentry: Yeah. 205 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:52,710 Vinny Guadagnino: But yeah, I'm not going to lie, like going over the 206 00:11:52,710 --> 00:11:54,420 Vinny Guadagnino: finish line that day didn't really feel amazing. 207 00:11:54,420 --> 00:11:55,170 Becs Gentry: Yeah, the body's screaming at you. 208 00:11:57,750 --> 00:12:02,760 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah, it felt like that sucked and I can't walk 209 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,199 Vinny Guadagnino: now, but again, I just have to keep reminding myself 210 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,850 Vinny Guadagnino: that... I try to bring myself back to that point, but 211 00:12:11,850 --> 00:12:14,490 Vinny Guadagnino: it's hard. I kind of just look for the next 212 00:12:14,490 --> 00:12:20,400 Vinny Guadagnino: race now. But the marathon itself though was incredible, just 213 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,550 Vinny Guadagnino: the experience. Forget about just 26 miles, but just what 214 00:12:23,550 --> 00:12:26,880 Vinny Guadagnino: the event is and the people cheering for you, and 215 00:12:27,179 --> 00:12:30,150 Vinny Guadagnino: the entire block party through New York City. I really 216 00:12:30,150 --> 00:12:33,809 Vinny Guadagnino: miss that. Because now, after especially I just ran the 217 00:12:33,809 --> 00:12:37,348 Vinny Guadagnino: United Half, and it was amazing, but it wasn't the 218 00:12:37,620 --> 00:12:41,189 Vinny Guadagnino: TCS, I was like, " Wow, now I know how special that day was." 219 00:12:41,190 --> 00:12:45,870 Becs Gentry: Oh, I love that. And for you, having lived in 220 00:12:45,870 --> 00:12:49,260 Becs Gentry: Staten Island, so you started in an old place of 221 00:12:49,260 --> 00:12:53,339 Becs Gentry: residence, coming in through Brooklyn, going up through the Bronx 222 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:55,530 Becs Gentry: where you did your 10 miler that you told us 223 00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:59,400 Becs Gentry: about. How cool was that, to just traverse your way 224 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,750 Becs Gentry: through the city that has changed your personal fitness life? 225 00:13:04,170 --> 00:13:08,850 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah, especially coming from Staten Island, that was a surreal 226 00:13:08,850 --> 00:13:12,090 Vinny Guadagnino: experience, because I've driven over the Verrazano Bridge thousands of 227 00:13:12,090 --> 00:13:15,960 Vinny Guadagnino: times, and then I was running over it. We were 228 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,890 Vinny Guadagnino: only in Staten Island for like a second. But yeah, 229 00:13:19,890 --> 00:13:23,340 Vinny Guadagnino: amazing way to start off. And then you hit Brooklyn, 230 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:26,760 Vinny Guadagnino: and then you go through all of the amazing different 231 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,960 Vinny Guadagnino: kind of energy waves in Brooklyn. And just when you 232 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,900 Vinny Guadagnino: think that you might be taking a dip a little 233 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:36,390 Vinny Guadagnino: bit, you just start to see thousands of people on 234 00:13:36,390 --> 00:13:41,010 Vinny Guadagnino: the street in Brooklyn. It's just the best route because 235 00:13:41,460 --> 00:13:43,530 Vinny Guadagnino: that's where you kind of need it the most, that 236 00:13:43,530 --> 00:13:47,220 Vinny Guadagnino: Brooklyn stretch, 'cause you're starting to get into it and 237 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:51,179 Vinny Guadagnino: you're like, " Oh, this is fun." And then obviously the 238 00:13:51,179 --> 00:13:53,699 Vinny Guadagnino: bridges get tough, like a little hurdle you have to 239 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:58,830 Vinny Guadagnino: climb. But yeah, just going through New York City. With 240 00:13:58,830 --> 00:14:01,380 Vinny Guadagnino: running, I've probably gone to places... I'm from New York 241 00:14:01,380 --> 00:14:03,300 Vinny Guadagnino: my whole life, I've never even been to these places 242 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:07,200 Vinny Guadagnino: before. I don't really frequent the Bronx that much, but you 243 00:14:07,710 --> 00:14:11,339 Vinny Guadagnino: know, here I am running it now. And I hope running takes me 244 00:14:11,340 --> 00:14:13,740 Vinny Guadagnino: all over the world to see places I've never seen. 245 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,250 Becs Gentry: Yeah, absolutely. I hope it will too. That's definitely something 246 00:14:17,250 --> 00:14:19,950 Becs Gentry: that powers me on. So let's talk about your training 247 00:14:19,950 --> 00:14:25,800 Becs Gentry: for your marathon. You said that you ran 18 miles, 248 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,810 Becs Gentry: that was your longest run you did in training. 249 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:28,650 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah. 250 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,290 Becs Gentry: Looking back on that, and there's no right or wrong 251 00:14:31,290 --> 00:14:34,800 Becs Gentry: answer for this, obviously training is a very personal journey for 252 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,510 Becs Gentry: everybody. Do you wish you trained further in the distance, 253 00:14:39,660 --> 00:14:42,360 Becs Gentry: because that like eight miles difference on race day can 254 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:50,161 Becs Gentry: feel astronomical? So, talk to me about that, how your training sat for you. 255 00:14:50,161 --> 00:14:54,600 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah, so this is a good thing for people to hear because obviously 256 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,560 Vinny Guadagnino: nothing's going to be perfect. And during my training period, 257 00:14:58,830 --> 00:15:01,920 Vinny Guadagnino: my training period, I kind of don't want to say we decided last minute, 258 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,950 Vinny Guadagnino: but we didn't decide like a year before to run 259 00:15:04,950 --> 00:15:07,500 Vinny Guadagnino: the marathon. So we kind of had to figure out 260 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,630 Vinny Guadagnino: a three to four month plan before. The problem with 261 00:15:12,630 --> 00:15:16,440 Vinny Guadagnino: that is that you have to get everything in in that three 262 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,170 Vinny Guadagnino: to four months, but sometimes life gets in the way. 263 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:24,390 Vinny Guadagnino: And about two to three weeks before the marathon, I 264 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:25,410 Vinny Guadagnino: caught the flu. 265 00:15:25,980 --> 00:15:26,100 Becs Gentry: Oh no. 266 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:32,790 Vinny Guadagnino: Horrible flu, worst sickness, worse than COVID. I was bedridden 267 00:15:32,790 --> 00:15:35,940 Vinny Guadagnino: and it was insane. And at that point, I had only 268 00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:40,680 Vinny Guadagnino: ran, I think, 16 miles. And I was, of course, 269 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,900 Vinny Guadagnino: in the back of my head, I'm like, " Forget about it. I know I'll 270 00:15:43,530 --> 00:15:46,410 Vinny Guadagnino: be better by the marathon, but I'm not going to 271 00:15:46,410 --> 00:15:49,500 Vinny Guadagnino: be better by next week when I have to run 272 00:15:50,190 --> 00:15:53,940 Vinny Guadagnino: 18 miles, and then my last run, 20 miles, whatever 273 00:15:53,940 --> 00:15:58,200 Vinny Guadagnino: it is." I actually missed the Staten Island marathon because 274 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,910 Vinny Guadagnino: I was sick with the flu. It was a couple of 275 00:15:59,910 --> 00:16:04,380 Vinny Guadagnino: weeks before. So, at that point, I had only ran 276 00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:09,090 Vinny Guadagnino: 16 miles. And then the week before the marathon, literally 277 00:16:09,090 --> 00:16:12,180 Vinny Guadagnino: one week before, I had to do my last long 278 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,820 Vinny Guadagnino: run. And that long run is supposed to be not 279 00:16:14,820 --> 00:16:16,440 Vinny Guadagnino: that long, I don't know, 10 miles or something like 280 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,820 Vinny Guadagnino: that, but just for my own psychology, I just took 281 00:16:20,820 --> 00:16:23,850 Vinny Guadagnino: the chance and I said, " Okay, I need to at 282 00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:26,490 Vinny Guadagnino: least do 18. I need to be somewhere in the 283 00:16:26,490 --> 00:16:30,960 Vinny Guadagnino: ballpark of 26." You know what I mean? I'm not running 10 extra 284 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,730 Vinny Guadagnino: miles the day of. And I did, I ran 18 285 00:16:35,730 --> 00:16:38,340 Vinny Guadagnino: the week before, and I'm glad. So I guess to 286 00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:42,210 Vinny Guadagnino: answer your question, I wasn't that upset about it 'cause I'm 287 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:44,489 Vinny Guadagnino: glad I even had that. I was thankful I even 288 00:16:44,490 --> 00:16:47,880 Vinny Guadagnino: had the 18 at that point. But for anyone trying 289 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Vinny Guadagnino: to do this, maybe start earlier. You think you have 290 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Vinny Guadagnino: time, but you might get injured, you might get sick, 291 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,820 Vinny Guadagnino: something might happen, and you need time for the training 292 00:16:56,820 --> 00:16:57,780 Vinny Guadagnino: runs before. 293 00:16:58,290 --> 00:16:59,550 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. Great perspective. 294 00:16:59,550 --> 00:17:01,859 Vinny Guadagnino: Yes. I would've loved to, 21 would've been great. 295 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:05,609 Becs Gentry: Yeah. Yeah, just to get into the 20s as well for the psychological, 296 00:17:05,609 --> 00:17:08,399 Becs Gentry: the mindset where you're like, " All right, I've edged into 297 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,030 Becs Gentry: it. It's not so bad." 298 00:17:09,660 --> 00:17:12,300 Vinny Guadagnino: But I will say, the day of though, after I crossed 299 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:14,639 Vinny Guadagnino: that 18, I knew that there was going to be 300 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,859 Vinny Guadagnino: nothing that was going to stop me, unless it was 301 00:17:16,859 --> 00:17:22,080 Vinny Guadagnino: like a physical injury. But mentally, that aspect was like, 302 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:24,570 Vinny Guadagnino: I don't want to say I was having too much fun, 303 00:17:24,570 --> 00:17:29,310 Vinny Guadagnino: but on the race day, just something else is carrying 304 00:17:29,310 --> 00:17:33,780 Vinny Guadagnino: you and you're going with the current of everybody. I 305 00:17:33,780 --> 00:17:36,449 Vinny Guadagnino: didn't feel at all like, " I've reached my PR and 306 00:17:36,450 --> 00:17:38,760 Vinny Guadagnino: this is where I have to really start digging." You know? 307 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,369 Becs Gentry: Yeah. Yeah, of course. And you have, as you say, 308 00:17:41,369 --> 00:17:46,470 Becs Gentry: the crowds are unreal on marathon day here in New York. And all 309 00:17:46,470 --> 00:17:48,869 Becs Gentry: the other people around you, you realize that even if 310 00:17:48,869 --> 00:17:51,629 Becs Gentry: you are having to dig deep, you're not alone. There 311 00:17:51,630 --> 00:17:54,450 Becs Gentry: are thousands of other people around you really digging deep 312 00:17:54,570 --> 00:17:55,109 Becs Gentry: as well. 313 00:17:55,290 --> 00:18:00,480 Vinny Guadagnino: And my coach, I have a coach, Coach Jay, you can see him on my Instagram, we always do these collab 314 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:06,060 Vinny Guadagnino: videos and stuff, he paces me and he really gets 315 00:18:06,060 --> 00:18:09,090 Vinny Guadagnino: me through. Because I'm the type where I don't want 316 00:18:09,090 --> 00:18:10,830 Vinny Guadagnino: to think about anything, I don't even want to look 317 00:18:10,830 --> 00:18:13,350 Vinny Guadagnino: at my watch, just show me the way and I'll 318 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:18,300 Vinny Guadagnino: just keep trucking along. And especially someone who's really kind 319 00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:22,590 Vinny Guadagnino: of familiar with everything, you trust them, you trust that 320 00:18:22,590 --> 00:18:24,959 Vinny Guadagnino: they know what's around the bend. He knows when to 321 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,030 Vinny Guadagnino: kind of slow me down, when to speed up and 322 00:18:27,030 --> 00:18:29,700 Vinny Guadagnino: stuff. So, I can't say I didn't have help, but 323 00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:33,150 Vinny Guadagnino: all those little things are pieces of the puzzle that 324 00:18:33,150 --> 00:18:34,320 Vinny Guadagnino: eventually got me through. 325 00:18:34,830 --> 00:18:38,429 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. Is there anything Coach Jay has ever told you in the time that you've 326 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:42,330 Becs Gentry: been training with him that has really stuck with you? 327 00:18:45,210 --> 00:18:49,950 Vinny Guadagnino: He's taught me a ton of things, but I would 328 00:18:49,950 --> 00:18:51,990 Vinny Guadagnino: say it sounds kind of simple, but we even did 329 00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:55,800 Vinny Guadagnino: it at the half, we always just say like, " All 330 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,880 Vinny Guadagnino: right, this is just another long run." I don't like 331 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:05,850 Vinny Guadagnino: putting pressure on everything. And a lot of times, I 332 00:19:05,850 --> 00:19:07,830 Vinny Guadagnino: don't know, with me it's like a little bit of 333 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:10,679 Vinny Guadagnino: a reverse psychology, the less pressure you put on me, 334 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,230 Vinny Guadagnino: the better I do. So it's really just like, " It's 335 00:19:13,230 --> 00:19:17,580 Vinny Guadagnino: just another long run, let's go have fun." And he's 336 00:19:17,580 --> 00:19:19,590 Vinny Guadagnino: not like neurotic with it, you know what I mean? 337 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:21,480 Vinny Guadagnino: Kind of shows up, we're just like, " Yo, what's up? 338 00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:24,810 Vinny Guadagnino: Ready to go?" You know what I mean? And then your mind just starts to be like, " 339 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Vinny Guadagnino: Oh this is normal." Because when you're sitting by yourself, 340 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,010 Vinny Guadagnino: you're freaking out. But when you see somebody that's done 341 00:19:32,010 --> 00:19:34,169 Vinny Guadagnino: it before, that's just like, " Yeah, let's just do it. 342 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,161 Vinny Guadagnino: Relax, you got this." 343 00:19:35,161 --> 00:19:39,000 Becs Gentry: Yeah. That's a really good mentality to be in as 344 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,680 Becs Gentry: well, removing the pressure, the internal pressure. You've got extrinsic 345 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,639 Becs Gentry: pressure from the environment, from the distance, all of those things, but 346 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,860 Becs Gentry: you can control that intrinsic pressure. So if you release it, great. 347 00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:54,149 Vinny Guadagnino: With me, with like the thousands of eyeballs on me, 348 00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:56,430 Vinny Guadagnino: and I know that press is going to be written 349 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,790 Vinny Guadagnino: up about this afterwards and stuff, I have to add 350 00:19:59,790 --> 00:20:04,230 Vinny Guadagnino: an extra layer of, " Okay, this is not life or 351 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:07,109 Vinny Guadagnino: death." You know what I mean? " Whatever happens, if I have 352 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:09,270 Vinny Guadagnino: to freaking walk the rest of the way, I'll walk." 353 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:13,920 Vinny Guadagnino: But again, doing that calms the brain down and then 354 00:20:14,190 --> 00:20:16,530 Vinny Guadagnino: you end up doing better physically in the end. 355 00:20:17,010 --> 00:20:19,199 Becs Gentry: You do, you do. It's something that I've had to 356 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,320 Becs Gentry: learn over the past few years, as well as Peloton has gathered 357 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:26,909 Becs Gentry: momentum and eyeballs. It's very much when I come to race, I have to be 358 00:20:27,630 --> 00:20:32,130 Becs Gentry: like similar to you, like " Listen, this is OK, just 359 00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:35,310 Becs Gentry: keep going. Get to that finish line and you'll be great." 360 00:20:35,790 --> 00:20:39,090 Vinny Guadagnino: That's why I don't really like, I mean the more 361 00:20:39,090 --> 00:20:42,240 Vinny Guadagnino: serious I get with this, obviously, especially because we run 362 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,630 Vinny Guadagnino: in the first waves with the pros and stuff and 363 00:20:45,630 --> 00:20:49,109 Vinny Guadagnino: they're all like beasting it, bullying their way to the 364 00:20:49,109 --> 00:20:51,810 Vinny Guadagnino: start point and stuff. And I'm like, " I just want 365 00:20:51,810 --> 00:20:56,310 Vinny Guadagnino: to finish." Because once it gets to that point, I 366 00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:59,639 Vinny Guadagnino: don't know if it's going to be as fun anymore. 367 00:20:59,670 --> 00:21:03,330 Vinny Guadagnino: You know? I just do it for fun. Just completing it is 368 00:21:03,330 --> 00:21:07,440 Vinny Guadagnino: a accomplishment for me. I don't need to like keep 369 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,928 Vinny Guadagnino: cutting my time in half or anything like that, but 370 00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:13,109 Vinny Guadagnino: cut to next race, I'm like, " Oh, I got to 371 00:21:13,109 --> 00:21:13,560 Vinny Guadagnino: beat my PR." 372 00:21:14,430 --> 00:21:17,100 Becs Gentry: He's elbowing everyone at the start, like, " I'm coming to 373 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:18,750 Becs Gentry: the front. Do you know who I am?" 374 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:19,170 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah. 375 00:21:19,650 --> 00:21:21,600 Becs Gentry: We could get you a new tagline. Your tagline what was 376 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,131 Becs Gentry: in Jersey, the cabs are here. 377 00:21:23,131 --> 00:21:24,359 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah. Yeah. 378 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,910 Becs Gentry: Your new tagline could be like, I don't know, " Watches 379 00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:28,619 Becs Gentry: are on. I'll get you right in the front." 380 00:21:30,510 --> 00:21:31,002 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah. BTR (inaudible) . 381 00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:34,950 Becs Gentry: Okay. So let's talk a little bit more about training 382 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:38,190 Becs Gentry: in New York, because New York is East Coast, let's 383 00:21:38,190 --> 00:21:42,270 Becs Gentry: say, or the northeast coast is a tough place to 384 00:21:42,270 --> 00:21:47,190 Becs Gentry: train for spring races and fall races. Either way, you've 385 00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:51,510 Becs Gentry: either got a viciously cold winter or a stinking hot 386 00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:55,290 Becs Gentry: summer to get through. So which one do you prefer, 387 00:21:55,290 --> 00:21:59,041 Becs Gentry: Vinny? Warm weather or cold weather? 388 00:21:59,041 --> 00:22:03,449 Vinny Guadagnino: I would take the warm weather all day. I don't mind running in the cold, 389 00:22:03,450 --> 00:22:05,820 Vinny Guadagnino: just because I layer up, and then when I warm 390 00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:10,830 Vinny Guadagnino: up I'm okay. But I just think for all of 391 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:13,050 Vinny Guadagnino: them, I'm 37 so I'm getting up there a little 392 00:22:13,050 --> 00:22:15,810 Vinny Guadagnino: bit, so for all of my little aches and pains, 393 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,420 Vinny Guadagnino: I usually feel better when it's a little bit warmer 394 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:22,470 Vinny Guadagnino: out and there's not just a... 'Cause the cold you'll 395 00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:25,920 Vinny Guadagnino: go out, there's also a freezing cold wind that's whipping 396 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,609 Vinny Guadagnino: you in the face and icicles and stuff like that. 397 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,390 Vinny Guadagnino: So even though the warm sucks when it's too hot, 398 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:38,399 Vinny Guadagnino: you don't have all those other elements. Also, psychologically too, 399 00:22:39,660 --> 00:22:43,440 Vinny Guadagnino: running in the winter, it's miserable outside, everyone's bundled up 400 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,930 Vinny Guadagnino: and there's barely any people out there. But summertime, there's 401 00:22:48,930 --> 00:22:51,030 Vinny Guadagnino: pretty girls around, I got my shirt off. 402 00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:53,490 Becs Gentry: Exactly. Everyone's catching a tan. 403 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,350 Vinny Guadagnino: And I'm like, " Yeah, this is amazing." Smelling that pollen, oh 404 00:22:58,350 --> 00:23:01,140 Vinny Guadagnino: I can't wait. That was a little bit challenging with the 405 00:23:01,140 --> 00:23:05,010 Vinny Guadagnino: United, was just because you didn't have that kind of 406 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,950 Vinny Guadagnino: extra fun element of training for it, of being outside 407 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:14,280 Vinny Guadagnino: like you do when it's warmer out. It was like 408 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,020 Vinny Guadagnino: literally like you just had to do it as a 409 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:17,820 Vinny Guadagnino: job, you know, kind of. I mean I would have 410 00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:18,899 Vinny Guadagnino: ran either way, but- 411 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,150 Becs Gentry: Of course, it just makes it that bit harder. 412 00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:21,540 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah. 413 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,290 Becs Gentry: It does. Yeah. That camaraderie in winter, I feel though, 414 00:23:25,290 --> 00:23:28,380 Becs Gentry: is stronger in a funny way when it's icy out 415 00:23:28,380 --> 00:23:31,080 Becs Gentry: or it's just, as you say, that horrible wind on 416 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,910 Becs Gentry: the West Side Highway, that no matter which way you're 417 00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:34,800 Becs Gentry: running, it seems to be hitting you square in the 418 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,000 Becs Gentry: face. You look at another runner, you're like, " Yeah." 419 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:43,530 Vinny Guadagnino: (inaudible) out there with shorts and a T- shirt. I'm like, " 420 00:23:43,530 --> 00:23:45,690 Vinny Guadagnino: How are you doing this right now?" I get it 421 00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:48,510 Vinny Guadagnino: like when you're running and you're warm, but I'm like, 422 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:50,369 Vinny Guadagnino: you hit a little bit of a corner and you just 423 00:23:50,490 --> 00:23:53,550 Vinny Guadagnino: have to tie your shoe, " It's 20 degrees out, what are 424 00:23:53,609 --> 00:23:54,000 Vinny Guadagnino: you doing?" 425 00:23:54,210 --> 00:23:55,201 Becs Gentry: I don't like my skin to feel cold. 426 00:23:55,201 --> 00:23:55,321 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah, yeah. 427 00:23:57,030 --> 00:24:00,330 Becs Gentry: This morning was very cold out there and there was 428 00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:05,850 Becs Gentry: just multiple different people and personalities of running, and I was just like any 429 00:24:05,850 --> 00:24:08,100 Becs Gentry: skin I saw, I'm like, " I know it's March, but 430 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:08,970 Becs Gentry: come on, it's cold." 431 00:24:09,390 --> 00:24:11,280 Vinny Guadagnino: But you know what it is, that's the best part about New York 432 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,460 Vinny Guadagnino: is that those people motivate me to get through because 433 00:24:15,090 --> 00:24:16,679 Vinny Guadagnino: I'm like, if I ever feel like a little bit 434 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,490 Vinny Guadagnino: cold, I'm like, " Oh, that girl is wearing shorts right 435 00:24:20,490 --> 00:24:23,428 Vinny Guadagnino: now and a long sleeve. I'm over here bitching and I 436 00:24:23,429 --> 00:24:30,418 Vinny Guadagnino: got a parka on, got my little Lululemon face shield." I'm like, " 437 00:24:30,898 --> 00:24:31,199 Vinny Guadagnino: What's (inaudible) here?" 438 00:24:32,638 --> 00:24:34,500 Becs Gentry: Each to their own, as long as we get through. 439 00:24:35,820 --> 00:24:40,170 Becs Gentry: Okay. So apart from the clothing preparation, what is your pre- 440 00:24:40,170 --> 00:24:43,470 Becs Gentry: long run race day routine? What do you do first thing? 441 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:48,240 Vinny Guadagnino: Well, that was a big challenge for me, sleep training. 442 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,570 Vinny Guadagnino: So I actually do standup comedy at night now and 443 00:24:56,100 --> 00:25:00,300 Vinny Guadagnino: my nights are usually... I'm usually more nocturnal, so I stay 444 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:03,780 Vinny Guadagnino: up at night, and by the time I wind down 445 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,690 Vinny Guadagnino: it could be 2:00 in the morning. And then I'll train 446 00:25:09,690 --> 00:25:13,500 Vinny Guadagnino: like in the afternoon. I like usually running around like 12: 447 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,780 Vinny Guadagnino: 00 or something or 1: 00. For the races, I've 448 00:25:18,780 --> 00:25:21,659 Vinny Guadagnino: had to learn that it's not going to fly, so 449 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,050 Vinny Guadagnino: I've had to do sleep training for like usually a 450 00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:28,619 Vinny Guadagnino: week before the race, where I'll just like force myself 451 00:25:28,619 --> 00:25:31,710 Vinny Guadagnino: to be up super early, force myself to go to 452 00:25:31,710 --> 00:25:36,300 Vinny Guadagnino: bed early. And that's a huge part of the just 453 00:25:36,659 --> 00:25:40,830 Vinny Guadagnino: know doing what I do on the day of, it 454 00:25:40,890 --> 00:25:42,899 Vinny Guadagnino: backs up to a week before, you know what I 455 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:49,590 Vinny Guadagnino: mean? Of that sleep training. And then day of, I eat. 456 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,350 Vinny Guadagnino: That's my favorite part. I'm a foodie, so another reason 457 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:54,900 Vinny Guadagnino: why I got into running was because I just want 458 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:55,709 Vinny Guadagnino: to eat without- 459 00:25:58,590 --> 00:25:58,590 Becs Gentry: It's the Italian in you. 460 00:25:58,590 --> 00:26:02,160 Vinny Guadagnino: Listen, I've had to like count calories. I hate that life, 461 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,490 Vinny Guadagnino: and running kind of gives me the freedom to just, 462 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,709 Vinny Guadagnino: not be like completely unhealthy, but just... Like after the 463 00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:14,760 Vinny Guadagnino: marathon, I ate a pizza. Yeah. And the day of 464 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:21,750 Vinny Guadagnino: too, I'm eating a nice healthy breakfast and then that's 465 00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:25,410 Vinny Guadagnino: it. Then I get all my little whatever goos and 466 00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:28,680 Vinny Guadagnino: salt tablets ready that I need, and what I'm going 467 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,859 Vinny Guadagnino: to take with me on the race. When I run outside 468 00:26:31,890 --> 00:26:34,168 Vinny Guadagnino: training I wear a vest, so I have water. So 469 00:26:34,169 --> 00:26:38,160 Vinny Guadagnino: I just pack all my stuff up, I stretch, and 470 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,369 Vinny Guadagnino: then I do more like dynamic stretching for the first 471 00:26:41,369 --> 00:26:42,330 Vinny Guadagnino: mile as I'm running. 472 00:26:42,330 --> 00:26:42,810 Becs Gentry: Okay, great. 473 00:26:46,170 --> 00:26:47,070 Vinny Guadagnino: And that's it really it, yeah. 474 00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:48,780 Becs Gentry: Amazing. You sound very prepared. I like it. 475 00:26:50,340 --> 00:26:53,520 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah, I'm very like type A, but that's what makes 476 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,419 Vinny Guadagnino: it challenging on race day, because you have the least 477 00:26:57,420 --> 00:27:01,440 Vinny Guadagnino: amount of time to prepare for the race because you're 478 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,280 Vinny Guadagnino: running to catch a bus or a train. 479 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,869 Becs Gentry: Yes, up so early. Yep. 480 00:27:06,869 --> 00:27:11,160 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah, yeah, so early. So that's why the training is so 481 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,000 Vinny Guadagnino: important, because you do everything, all the hard work comes 482 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,490 Vinny Guadagnino: before and then day of, you just show up and 483 00:27:17,490 --> 00:27:17,909 Vinny Guadagnino: you're ready to go. 484 00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:20,639 Becs Gentry: Yeah, absolutely. Talk to me a little bit about your 485 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,300 Becs Gentry: sleep training, because I think that is a really important thing, not 486 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:26,790 Becs Gentry: just for people in cities, but we suffer from it 487 00:27:26,790 --> 00:27:30,180 Becs Gentry: more because it's almost like daylight. There's always something going 488 00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:32,970 Becs Gentry: on in New York. What do you do? What's your 489 00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:34,290 Becs Gentry: process for sleep training? 490 00:27:35,310 --> 00:27:39,869 Vinny Guadagnino: Well, I actually had, tying it into the mental health of it all, 491 00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:43,560 Vinny Guadagnino: I actually had trouble, I had insomnia for a while 492 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:49,200 Vinny Guadagnino: and I had to use something called CPT, cognitive behavioral 493 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:55,380 Vinny Guadagnino: therapy, to help the insomnia. And a lot of times, 494 00:27:56,910 --> 00:28:00,540 Vinny Guadagnino: when you can't sleep, in general, you start to freak 495 00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:02,669 Vinny Guadagnino: out about it, you start to worry about your next 496 00:28:02,670 --> 00:28:07,619 Vinny Guadagnino: day, which obviously triggers your fight or flight and now 497 00:28:07,619 --> 00:28:10,170 Vinny Guadagnino: you can't sleep more. So the more you worry about, 498 00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:12,390 Vinny Guadagnino: it's like a paradox, it's a cycle you can't get 499 00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:17,730 Vinny Guadagnino: out of. So, what I've learned, again, taking running out 500 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:24,300 Vinny Guadagnino: of it, you want to just be really tired. And 501 00:28:24,810 --> 00:28:27,210 Vinny Guadagnino: if you're not tired, I just don't go to bed. 502 00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:29,490 Vinny Guadagnino: You know what I mean? I don't just, " I have to be 503 00:28:29,490 --> 00:28:32,310 Vinny Guadagnino: in bed by 9: 00," and then you're going into 504 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:34,889 Vinny Guadagnino: that neurotic mode. So I've had to learn how to 505 00:28:34,890 --> 00:28:37,470 Vinny Guadagnino: chill out with that and just kind of be like, " 506 00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:40,980 Vinny Guadagnino: Look, I can't even control my sleep. If my sleep 507 00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:43,440 Vinny Guadagnino: happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm still 508 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,459 Vinny Guadagnino: going to live my life either way." Even if I 509 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:49,470 Vinny Guadagnino: can't sleep at night, " All right, I'm just going to lay here. 510 00:28:50,670 --> 00:28:52,140 Vinny Guadagnino: I'm going to get up the next day and do 511 00:28:52,140 --> 00:28:55,080 Vinny Guadagnino: whatever I have to do." And the more you take 512 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Vinny Guadagnino: on that mindset, the more you start to just relax 513 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,580 Vinny Guadagnino: a little bit about your next day, about life. It 514 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:05,310 Vinny Guadagnino: still might suck, you still might have a sleepy day, 515 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,230 Vinny Guadagnino: but it's better than the other way of always having 516 00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:12,479 Vinny Guadagnino: to worry about getting... You have to be careful when 517 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,690 Vinny Guadagnino: you become an athlete or whatever it is, to be 518 00:29:15,690 --> 00:29:22,380 Vinny Guadagnino: so regimented and disciplined about everything. Side note, what helps 519 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:25,440 Vinny Guadagnino: me a lot, watching TikToks of these guys that run 520 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,620 Vinny Guadagnino: like ultra marathons and they're like, " Oh, I haven't slept 521 00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:32,460 Vinny Guadagnino: in four days. I'm seeing weird things now and everything." 522 00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:35,370 Vinny Guadagnino: And I'm like, " I love that." That is the best 523 00:29:35,370 --> 00:29:39,510 Vinny Guadagnino: motivation of these people, of what the body and the 524 00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:44,070 Vinny Guadagnino: mind can do. So, I was a little bit worried 525 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:46,680 Vinny Guadagnino: about that when it came to me doing races and 526 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,380 Vinny Guadagnino: stuff. So I just give myself a couple of days 527 00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:52,290 Vinny Guadagnino: before, where I start to go to bed a little 528 00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:55,500 Vinny Guadagnino: earlier, and then no matter what, I'll just wake up 529 00:29:55,500 --> 00:30:00,390 Vinny Guadagnino: super early. And then by the time it's nighttime again, 530 00:30:01,290 --> 00:30:04,350 Vinny Guadagnino: my internal sleep drive will usually kick in and then 531 00:30:04,350 --> 00:30:07,650 Vinny Guadagnino: I'll fall asleep. But I still tell myself, " If I 532 00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:10,080 Vinny Guadagnino: don't, I don't. And it's not going to change anything. I'm still going 533 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,420 Vinny Guadagnino: to go for my runs tomorrow, I'm going to work 534 00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:15,210 Vinny Guadagnino: with whatever I have and gas that's in the tank." 535 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Vinny Guadagnino: And so far so good know. I wouldn't say to 536 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,350 Vinny Guadagnino: do that the night just one day before. That's why 537 00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:24,180 Vinny Guadagnino: I do it kind of like a week before. 538 00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:25,380 Becs Gentry: Yeah, you have the lead into it. 539 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:25,830 Vinny Guadagnino: Yeah. 540 00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:31,890 Becs Gentry: That's awesome. And it's, again, such a great message to understand that okay, 541 00:30:31,890 --> 00:30:34,320 Becs Gentry: we don't want people to be so tired they're hallucinating 542 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,220 Becs Gentry: as ultra runners are. I've been there and it's fun 543 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,830 Becs Gentry: to talk about it post, it's not fun during it. 544 00:30:42,030 --> 00:30:48,210 Becs Gentry: But to understand that generically, 37 years old, you have 545 00:30:48,210 --> 00:30:49,920 Becs Gentry: a lot of sleep in your body, you have a 546 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,890 Becs Gentry: lot of rest, that you can, if you can let 547 00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:55,650 Becs Gentry: go of it in the moment, and just lay in 548 00:30:55,650 --> 00:30:59,970 Becs Gentry: bed and let your homeostasis take over your body, that's 549 00:30:59,970 --> 00:31:02,910 Becs Gentry: okay. Instead of getting all riled up about it and 550 00:31:02,910 --> 00:31:05,370 Becs Gentry: thinking that your day's ruined the next day, when actually 551 00:31:05,670 --> 00:31:08,250 Becs Gentry: you've banked some rest, you've banked it in your life, 552 00:31:08,250 --> 00:31:08,610 Becs Gentry: you're good. 553 00:31:08,610 --> 00:31:12,150 Vinny Guadagnino: And you'll have adrenaline the next day. You know mean? 554 00:31:12,990 --> 00:31:13,620 Becs Gentry: It's a useful tool. 555 00:31:15,090 --> 00:31:18,390 Vinny Guadagnino: This last one, I probably slept like, I had to get at 4:00 556 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:21,000 Vinny Guadagnino: in the morning, so I probably slept like four hours 557 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,050 Vinny Guadagnino: or something. And it's funny, on one of my training 558 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:27,630 Vinny Guadagnino: runs, if I didn't sleep nine hours I'd be like, " 559 00:31:27,630 --> 00:31:30,090 Vinny Guadagnino: Shit, I'm going to have a horrible run." But now, 560 00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:32,040 Vinny Guadagnino: I'd probably slept like four and I'm just like, " It 561 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,730 Vinny Guadagnino: is what it is." And again, like the adrenaline never 562 00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:38,250 Vinny Guadagnino: fails you, you know what I mean? Like you get there and you just 563 00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:39,840 Vinny Guadagnino: do what you have to do because of what you 564 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,450 Vinny Guadagnino: just said, you're okay. Your body has little reserves and 565 00:31:45,450 --> 00:31:46,890 Vinny Guadagnino: things that will take care of you. 566 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,320 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. So Vinny, when you ran the TCS New York City Marathon, you run 567 00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:57,510 Becs Gentry: for NAMI- NYC, the National Alliance of Mental Health Institute 568 00:31:57,570 --> 00:32:01,530 Becs Gentry: in New York. And you have been open with your 569 00:32:01,530 --> 00:32:05,280 Becs Gentry: struggles with anxiety, which is a form of struggle with 570 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,930 Becs Gentry: mental health, in the past. So was it a personal and 571 00:32:10,050 --> 00:32:14,280 Becs Gentry: extended choice to choose mental health as your cause for 572 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,330 Becs Gentry: running this marathon? 573 00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:20,310 Vinny Guadagnino: Oh yeah, for sure. Obviously, you always run for a, 574 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:23,520 Vinny Guadagnino: well, usually, you run for a charity, so I was 575 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,220 Vinny Guadagnino: going to do something that was close to home for 576 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:30,270 Vinny Guadagnino: me. And obviously, of all the things that you've already 577 00:32:30,570 --> 00:32:33,480 Vinny Guadagnino: kind of heard me talk about so far, mental health 578 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,780 Vinny Guadagnino: is a big thing for me. And NAMI just seemed 579 00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:41,100 Vinny Guadagnino: like a really cool organization. It provided free mental health 580 00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:45,840 Vinny Guadagnino: for people that need it, resources. 'Cause people usually don't 581 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,450 Vinny Guadagnino: even know where to start, so just giving people a 582 00:32:48,450 --> 00:32:52,140 Vinny Guadagnino: free starting point and then hopefully that can lead them 583 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:53,100 Vinny Guadagnino: to where they got to be. 584 00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:57,030 Becs Gentry: And would you say that running has helped you quite a lot with 585 00:32:57,030 --> 00:32:58,530 Becs Gentry: your mental health struggles? 586 00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:03,030 Vinny Guadagnino: It has. I don't want to say, 'cause sometimes people, 587 00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:08,760 Vinny Guadagnino: how can I say this? Sometimes people are like, " Oh 588 00:33:08,970 --> 00:33:12,209 Vinny Guadagnino: is working out or is running or is eating right 589 00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:15,720 Vinny Guadagnino: the cure for mental health?" I don't think it's secure. I don't think 590 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:21,270 Vinny Guadagnino: it's just part of the puzzle, because obviously if I'm 591 00:33:21,270 --> 00:33:25,050 Vinny Guadagnino: focused on something else and I'm focusing on this goal, 592 00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:30,870 Vinny Guadagnino: the less I have to worry about myself, and internalizing 593 00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:34,110 Vinny Guadagnino: everything and my brain spinning around. So I always love 594 00:33:34,110 --> 00:33:39,120 Vinny Guadagnino: having, especially these official races, because for months leading up 595 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,310 Vinny Guadagnino: to it, I have a plan, I have a goal, 596 00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,760 Vinny Guadagnino: and I'm not just sitting around collecting my own negative 597 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,270 Vinny Guadagnino: thoughts. So that's part of the element. Obviously, the physical 598 00:33:48,270 --> 00:33:52,140 Vinny Guadagnino: part as well. You feel better physically, you're going to 599 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:56,520 Vinny Guadagnino: feel better mentally. But yeah, so it's definitely part of 600 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,220 Vinny Guadagnino: the puzzle. I still do have ups and downs and 601 00:33:59,220 --> 00:34:06,540 Vinny Guadagnino: everything like that. But especially with me too, I don't 602 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:09,089 Vinny Guadagnino: have a 9: 00 to 5: 00, I don't have 603 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:13,650 Vinny Guadagnino: a family right now. So look, if that certain gal. 604 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,140 Vinny Guadagnino: So, the running community, the programs, the planning, all that 605 00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:23,430 Vinny Guadagnino: stuff kind of becomes just my community. 606 00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:24,299 Becs Gentry: I love it. 607 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:25,410 Vinny Guadagnino: Which we're humans, we need that. 608 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,290 Becs Gentry: We do, absolutely. And it's a really good point to 609 00:34:28,290 --> 00:34:33,270 Becs Gentry: say, that the more you think about the bigger things in life, the 610 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:37,980 Becs Gentry: smaller your ego and your problems seem to be. And 611 00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:42,150 Becs Gentry: running is a really good tool in a big toolkit. 612 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,500 Vinny Guadagnino: You could be internalizing all night or whatever, just by 613 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:50,219 Vinny Guadagnino: yourself, but then you get out there and you see thousands of runners 614 00:34:50,219 --> 00:34:53,100 Vinny Guadagnino: around you and it just carries you to a different 615 00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,550 Vinny Guadagnino: place. You're no longer just living in your head anymore. 616 00:34:56,730 --> 00:35:01,290 Becs Gentry: Yeah, they say that if you're feeling anxiety, one of 617 00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:03,840 Becs Gentry: the useful tool is to think of, or if you 618 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,730 Becs Gentry: can, see something that insights awe in you. And I think that's 619 00:35:08,730 --> 00:35:11,730 Becs Gentry: very similar to what you were just saying, you possibly 620 00:35:11,730 --> 00:35:14,219 Becs Gentry: feel awe when you see all these other thousands of 621 00:35:14,219 --> 00:35:17,100 Becs Gentry: people doing it, and it can help you just go 622 00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:19,170 Becs Gentry: into a different moment in your own head. 623 00:35:19,469 --> 00:35:20,640 Vinny Guadagnino: You're in the moment. Yeah. 624 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:21,779 Becs Gentry: I love it. 625 00:35:21,780 --> 00:35:22,440 Vinny Guadagnino: And you're resent. 626 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,770 Becs Gentry: Very present, that's for sure. Okay, Vinny, let's hark back 627 00:35:25,770 --> 00:35:30,239 Becs Gentry: to beginner runner Vinny. Is there anything present day Vinny, 628 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,820 Becs Gentry: one piece of advice that you would give beginner runner Vinny? 629 00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:39,150 Vinny Guadagnino: Probably that maybe just I wish I would've started a 630 00:35:39,150 --> 00:35:45,750 Vinny Guadagnino: little bit sooner, and also just I was more capable 631 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:50,670 Vinny Guadagnino: than I thought. I'm still telling myself that advice every 632 00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:55,440 Vinny Guadagnino: day, because for the full I was like, " Okay, there's 633 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,049 Vinny Guadagnino: no way you can run a full." And then I 634 00:35:58,230 --> 00:36:00,420 Vinny Guadagnino: proved myself, like, " Oh I could, I was capable of 635 00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:04,259 Vinny Guadagnino: that." That's what made this last United so fun, was 636 00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:08,250 Vinny Guadagnino: because it was the first race I had. I mean 637 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:10,560 Vinny Guadagnino: it was my first official half, but I had ran 638 00:36:11,130 --> 00:36:14,640 Vinny Guadagnino: a bunch of halves before in training and just unsanctioned 639 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,800 Vinny Guadagnino: and stuff. So, it was the first one where I 640 00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:19,680 Vinny Guadagnino: did it where I knew I was capable. That's why 641 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,910 Vinny Guadagnino: we kind of ran a little faster. So yeah, so 642 00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:30,150 Vinny Guadagnino: just obviously just I would have started a little bit sooner and 643 00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:32,520 Vinny Guadagnino: not have doubted myself, 'cause in the beginning, and this is a 644 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,180 Vinny Guadagnino: good message for everybody, everyone people don't even believe they 645 00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:39,750 Vinny Guadagnino: can run a mile. People don't believe they can run 646 00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:43,080 Vinny Guadagnino: three miles, but you can. You just have to do 647 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,469 Vinny Guadagnino: it slowly and you have to just do it easily. 648 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,390 Vinny Guadagnino: I mean if you physically can, obviously. But yeah, there are so 649 00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:56,370 Vinny Guadagnino: many different people that do this that smoke me, that 650 00:36:56,370 --> 00:37:01,110 Vinny Guadagnino: I would never think that. And yeah, it's great. 651 00:37:01,650 --> 00:37:05,160 Becs Gentry: Amazing. Okay, we've got a Jersey Shore lightning round to 652 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,400 Becs Gentry: come up, but before that I want to know, apparently 653 00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:12,330 Becs Gentry: you publicly stated your plan to conquer all the boroughs, 654 00:37:13,469 --> 00:37:18,540 Becs Gentry: outside of the TCS New York City Marathon, obviously. So, explain to me a 655 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:21,719 Becs Gentry: little bit about what that means and is there anything 656 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,540 Becs Gentry: in there that tells us what is next for Vinny? 657 00:37:25,350 --> 00:37:29,400 Vinny Guadagnino: So, the New York Road Runners obviously is an amazing 658 00:37:29,489 --> 00:37:33,509 Vinny Guadagnino: organization because you just have all these official races to 659 00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:37,290 Vinny Guadagnino: look forward to. It's not just like one marathon and 660 00:37:37,950 --> 00:37:41,010 Vinny Guadagnino: that's it. We live in New York, so it's amazing 661 00:37:41,010 --> 00:37:43,080 Vinny Guadagnino: that we have all these races around us. I don't 662 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,960 Vinny Guadagnino: really know any other place that does it like that. 663 00:37:46,350 --> 00:37:52,020 Vinny Guadagnino: So, they have obviously great races coming up, the Brooklyn 664 00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:56,310 Vinny Guadagnino: Half, and that'll probably be my next one. But I 665 00:37:56,310 --> 00:38:02,310 Vinny Guadagnino: got to eventually end up doing my homecoming in Staten 666 00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:08,280 Vinny Guadagnino: Island, which I missed because I was sick. So yeah, 667 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,049 Vinny Guadagnino: so kind of just whatever Coach Jerry has been planned 668 00:38:13,050 --> 00:38:15,960 Vinny Guadagnino: for me, it's a fun activity for all the reasons 669 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,900 Vinny Guadagnino: I stated earlier. And eventually, again, I just did this 670 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:25,680 Vinny Guadagnino: for fun in the beginning, but hopefully, not to make 671 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,190 Vinny Guadagnino: this about celebrity or business stuff, but I don't know, 672 00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:32,580 Vinny Guadagnino: maybe start working with a brand or something like that, 673 00:38:32,580 --> 00:38:36,030 Vinny Guadagnino: and just make it more of an official thing and 674 00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:38,940 Vinny Guadagnino: do all these races, I would love to do that. 675 00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:42,779 Vinny Guadagnino: So we're just seeing what happens. But yeah, definitely probably, 676 00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:44,219 Vinny Guadagnino: I guess the Brooklyn one next. 677 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,420 Becs Gentry: Okay, fantastic. So all the uber Vinny fans out there, 678 00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:52,200 Becs Gentry: watch out for Brooklyn later on this year. Okay, we're 679 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,550 Becs Gentry: going to head into the Jersey Shore lightning round. So it 680 00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:59,640 Becs Gentry: is running Jersey Shore base, so get your brain ready. 681 00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:04,589 Becs Gentry: Okay. This is Vinny on the start line, elbows are ready here. 682 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,330 Becs Gentry: If you could run a marathon with any Jersey Shore castmate, who would it be? 683 00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:14,580 Vinny Guadagnino: So actually, this is a funny question, because at the 684 00:39:14,580 --> 00:39:19,469 Vinny Guadagnino: time I was training for TCS, Deena on my show, 685 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,750 Vinny Guadagnino: just kind of got into running or walk running outside. 686 00:39:24,989 --> 00:39:28,500 Vinny Guadagnino: She's just like a PTA mom, she's hilarious. She doesn't really work 687 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,600 Vinny Guadagnino: out, but she had this like a little running bug 688 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,739 Vinny Guadagnino: and she did like a, it's coming up in this 689 00:39:34,739 --> 00:39:38,820 Vinny Guadagnino: next season, I did a little bit of a 5K with her. 690 00:39:41,550 --> 00:39:41,551 Becs Gentry: Oh, awesome. 691 00:39:41,551 --> 00:39:43,230 Vinny Guadagnino: And I was able to kind of like guide her, 692 00:39:43,230 --> 00:39:46,290 Vinny Guadagnino: and it was actually the day before the Bronx 10. 693 00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:50,430 Vinny Guadagnino: And so yeah, Deena, I like that because she was 694 00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:53,730 Vinny Guadagnino: motivated to do it. But in terms of having fun, and 695 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,460 Vinny Guadagnino: it would probably be Pauly because we would just be like... 696 00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:59,250 Vinny Guadagnino: He's hilarious. He would just be yelling to everyone in 697 00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:01,920 Vinny Guadagnino: the street the whole time, but that's my boy. So Deena and Pauly. 698 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,060 Becs Gentry: Deena and Pauly D. Okay. All right. What's harder, getting 699 00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:09,180 Becs Gentry: through marathon training or surviving a Jersey Shore night out? 700 00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:14,430 Vinny Guadagnino: Surviving a Jersey Shore night out, and then surviving the 701 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:15,270 Vinny Guadagnino: next day. 702 00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:18,630 Becs Gentry: Yeah, I was going to say. The next day is 703 00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:18,720 Becs Gentry: the toughest. 704 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,250 Vinny Guadagnino: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You never know what we're going to get into, 705 00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:25,530 Vinny Guadagnino: or especially back in the day. There might be a 706 00:40:26,219 --> 00:40:30,330 Vinny Guadagnino: fistfight that broke out. So give me training all day, 707 00:40:30,330 --> 00:40:32,880 Vinny Guadagnino: just a little bit of a nice easy run, my 708 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,840 Vinny Guadagnino: headphones healthy, no hangover. 709 00:40:40,590 --> 00:40:44,190 Becs Gentry: There we go. Perfect. All right. What is the running equivalent of a GTL? That is gym, tan, 710 00:40:44,219 --> 00:40:46,080 Becs Gentry: laundry day for people who don't know. 711 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:54,001 Vinny Guadagnino: Well we said GTR, gym, tan, race, that's the new (inaudible) 712 00:40:54,001 --> 00:40:56,009 Vinny Guadagnino: . But the best part about running is that you're 713 00:40:56,010 --> 00:41:00,090 Vinny Guadagnino: getting the G and the T and the L, because 714 00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:01,920 Vinny Guadagnino: I don't really even wear clothes that much when I 715 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,830 Vinny Guadagnino: run, so I don't have to do laundry. So, it 716 00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:07,920 Vinny Guadagnino: kind of just actually hits it all. That's why I 717 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,710 Vinny Guadagnino: like doing it. I've never been like a gym guy 718 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:12,090 Vinny Guadagnino: that just like wants to be in the gym for 719 00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:15,930 Vinny Guadagnino: three hours. I like being outside, running, getting the tan. 720 00:41:17,489 --> 00:41:22,859 Vinny Guadagnino: I'm a big watermelon buff. I've done these reviews of 721 00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:29,069 Vinny Guadagnino: different ways to eat watermelon. And when I'm running, I 722 00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:31,529 Vinny Guadagnino: always stop on the side of the road halfway in and 723 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:33,391 Vinny Guadagnino: I get watermelon and I just like refuel with it. 724 00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:34,002 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh. (inaudible) . 725 00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:37,140 Vinny Guadagnino: It didn't really answer the question, but you know, it 726 00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:37,590 Vinny Guadagnino: was fun. 727 00:41:37,710 --> 00:41:41,010 Becs Gentry: I feel like then it's like the running version of MLF, 728 00:41:41,489 --> 00:41:42,930 Becs Gentry: miles, laundry, food. 729 00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:46,111 Vinny Guadagnino: There we go. MLF, I like it. Or FML. 730 00:41:46,111 --> 00:41:51,300 Becs Gentry: FML. There we go. There you go. We've got all the connotations here. 731 00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:53,340 Becs Gentry: I love it. My daughter would be with you for 732 00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:56,790 Becs Gentry: the watermelon. She's a big watermelon fan. 733 00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:57,780 Vinny Guadagnino: Oh, it's the best in summer. 734 00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:00,930 Becs Gentry: Okay. Who would have the best hype up playlist for 735 00:42:00,930 --> 00:42:02,489 Becs Gentry: a race? Pauly D or Snooki? 736 00:42:03,570 --> 00:42:05,700 Vinny Guadagnino: Oh, that's a tough one. I want to say Pauly 737 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:10,500 Vinny Guadagnino: D because obviously he's a DJ and he's open format. 738 00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:13,410 Vinny Guadagnino: So, I like listening to everything when I run so 739 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,170 Vinny Guadagnino: he'll definitely hit me with the hip hop and then 740 00:42:16,170 --> 00:42:20,669 Vinny Guadagnino: he'll go into even like a stupid TikTok song that's going 741 00:42:20,670 --> 00:42:23,760 Vinny Guadagnino: viral right now, whatever. But Nicole would be like those 742 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,380 Vinny Guadagnino: hard house beats all time, and sometimes that is a 743 00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:33,420 Vinny Guadagnino: good run. Sometimes you don't feel like hearing words too 744 00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:35,700 Vinny Guadagnino: much and you just want to want to just hear like beats and 745 00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:38,670 Vinny Guadagnino: the beat drop, but I would take Pauly, but if 746 00:42:38,670 --> 00:42:40,860 Vinny Guadagnino: I wanted a hard house run, Nicole. 747 00:42:41,250 --> 00:42:44,040 Becs Gentry: Yeah, I love it. I'm an EDM and classical girl 748 00:42:44,070 --> 00:42:44,311 Becs Gentry: when I run. 749 00:42:44,311 --> 00:42:46,620 Vinny Guadagnino: Okay, okay. I love classical too. 750 00:42:46,830 --> 00:42:48,900 Becs Gentry: Yeah, no words. You can go on your own adventure. 751 00:42:49,950 --> 00:42:52,380 Becs Gentry: Okay. If you had to carb load with one Jersey 752 00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:55,590 Becs Gentry: Shore castmate before the race, who's your pick and what 753 00:42:55,590 --> 00:42:56,340 Becs Gentry: would the meal be? 754 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,580 Vinny Guadagnino: Oh, that's easy. That's Mike The Situation. They call him 755 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:08,070 Vinny Guadagnino: a Big Daddy Sitch because he just eats everything nowadays. 756 00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:12,839 Vinny Guadagnino: So, this season coming out, that's about to come out 757 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,180 Vinny Guadagnino: probably, I don't know when, but in the next few months 758 00:43:15,690 --> 00:43:21,299 Vinny Guadagnino: they actually watched me run the TCS. And let's just 759 00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:25,110 Vinny Guadagnino: say that BDS, Big Daddy Sitch was helping me carb 760 00:43:25,110 --> 00:43:28,380 Vinny Guadagnino: load a lot through that experience. And it would definitely 761 00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:33,090 Vinny Guadagnino: be pasta. We're Italian, pasta. The carb loading is not 762 00:43:33,090 --> 00:43:37,560 Vinny Guadagnino: an issue for me. That's my strongest department right there. 763 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:39,359 Becs Gentry: What's your favorite pasta dish? 764 00:43:40,590 --> 00:43:47,130 Vinny Guadagnino: So my favorite pasta dish is probably penne vodka, but 765 00:43:48,090 --> 00:43:51,450 Vinny Guadagnino: during running and stuff like that, it's a little heavy. 766 00:43:51,450 --> 00:43:54,719 Vinny Guadagnino: So I'll do more of just a garlic and oil, 767 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,569 Vinny Guadagnino: and maybe add some grilled chicken and some vegetables in there. 768 00:43:57,570 --> 00:43:58,230 Becs Gentry: Very good. 769 00:43:58,290 --> 00:44:01,560 Vinny Guadagnino: And just make it carb but also kind of clean. 770 00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:05,370 Becs Gentry: Yeah. This is what everyone needs. An Italian guy who 771 00:44:05,370 --> 00:44:07,861 Becs Gentry: runs and can cook. This is the dream. This is the dream. 772 00:44:07,861 --> 00:44:11,430 Vinny Guadagnino: Well I had a what's it called? I had a cookbook called 773 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:16,649 Vinny Guadagnino: The Keto Guido Cookbook, and it was all about... That's 774 00:44:16,650 --> 00:44:19,380 Vinny Guadagnino: when I was more low- carb. I am still low- 775 00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:21,960 Vinny Guadagnino: carb all the time, like in my regular life, but 776 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,910 Vinny Guadagnino: that's why I like the running because it gives me 777 00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:26,730 Vinny Guadagnino: excuse to kind of add in carbs to my life, 778 00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:29,460 Vinny Guadagnino: 'cause I can't just eat a giant dish of pasta 779 00:44:29,460 --> 00:44:30,390 Vinny Guadagnino: and then go sit down. 780 00:44:30,629 --> 00:44:31,049 Becs Gentry: No. 781 00:44:31,350 --> 00:44:34,920 Vinny Guadagnino: I need to do it around like long runs or activity. 782 00:44:35,070 --> 00:44:38,040 Vinny Guadagnino: So, I could tell I like kind of live the best of both worlds now. 783 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:40,770 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. And on those Sunday days off, if that's your 784 00:44:40,770 --> 00:44:42,330 Becs Gentry: day off, you can have that penne vodka. 785 00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:42,960 Vinny Guadagnino: Cheat day. 786 00:44:43,230 --> 00:44:48,630 Becs Gentry: Yay. Vinny, that was so much fun. I love learning 787 00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:51,960 Becs Gentry: about your running background. Thank you for sharing it with 788 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,530 Becs Gentry: us. I'm really excited to see where 2025 takes you, 789 00:44:55,530 --> 00:44:58,469 Becs Gentry: all the adventures. I hope you get to travel the 790 00:44:58,469 --> 00:45:02,700 Becs Gentry: world and see more miles in all the warmth, and 791 00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:05,489 Becs Gentry: we'll see you definitely at the Brooklyn Half later on 792 00:45:05,489 --> 00:45:05,880 Becs Gentry: this year. 793 00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:08,730 Vinny Guadagnino: Yes. I can't do London this year, but I do 794 00:45:08,730 --> 00:45:11,070 Vinny Guadagnino: want to make it there. I'm sure you've done that. 795 00:45:11,070 --> 00:45:11,130 Becs Gentry: Yeah. 796 00:45:11,130 --> 00:45:14,040 Vinny Guadagnino: So, I have my eyeballs on that one. 797 00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:17,670 Becs Gentry: Great. Well, they'll all be waiting for you, undoubtedly. Vinny, 798 00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:19,020 Becs Gentry: thank you so much. 799 00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:19,469 Vinny Guadagnino: Thanks, Becs. 800 00:45:32,580 --> 00:45:35,610 Speaker 8: New York Road Runners is a nonprofit organization with a 801 00:45:35,610 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 8: vision to build healthier lives and stronger communities through the 802 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,110 Speaker 8: transformative power of running. The support of members and donors 803 00:45:43,110 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 8: like you helps us achieve our mission to transform the 804 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,190 Speaker 8: health and wellbeing of our communities through inclusive and accessible 805 00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:54,810 Speaker 8: running experiences, empowering all to achieve their potential. Learn more 806 00:45:54,810 --> 00:45:58,350 Speaker 8: and contribute at nyrr. org/ donate. 807 00:45:58,860 --> 00:46:02,100 Becs Gentry: Marissa Cotrina's running journey began later in life, but it 808 00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:06,960 Becs Gentry: quickly became a defining force. After completing her first NYC marathon 809 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,650 Becs Gentry: in 2008, she fell in love with the sport's camaraderie 810 00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:13,980 Becs Gentry: and the mission of New York Road runners. Today, she's 811 00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:18,600 Becs Gentry: an accomplished long distance runner with 11 marathons and 49 half- 812 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,260 Becs Gentry: marathons under her belt. But running is more than a 813 00:46:22,260 --> 00:46:26,580 Becs Gentry: personal challenge for Marissa. It's a family affair. Last year, 814 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,070 Becs Gentry: her husband took up running at the age of 57, 815 00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:32,910 Becs Gentry: and this year, her son is running his first NYC Marathon 816 00:46:32,910 --> 00:46:35,940 Becs Gentry: to raise funds for research into his brother's rare genetic 817 00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:40,259 Becs Gentry: disorder. Marissa now leads a charity running team, helping other 818 00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:43,950 Becs Gentry: families turn their miles into meaningful action. So here she 819 00:46:43,950 --> 00:46:48,569 Becs Gentry: is with Meb, fresh off her 49th half- marathon, the 820 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,640 Becs Gentry: United Airlines NYC Half. New York Road runner member, Marissa Cotrina. 821 00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:58,080 Meb: Thanks, Becs. Marissa, welcome to the Set the Pace podcast. 822 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,560 Meb: You ran your first marathon at age 40. Why made you 823 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,500 Meb: decide to take such a big challenge at that point 824 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:05,370 Meb: in your life? 825 00:47:07,290 --> 00:47:10,620 Marissa Cotrina: I come from a family of a lot of sports. 826 00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:13,259 Marissa Cotrina: I used to be a competitive tennis player as a 827 00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:20,040 Marissa Cotrina: kid, and I remember watching this incredible image of the 828 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,719 Marissa Cotrina: Verrazano Bridge. Every year with my brother in front of 829 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,239 Marissa Cotrina: the TV, I thought, " Wow, this is amazing." So living 830 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,230 Marissa Cotrina: in New York later in life, I thought I had 831 00:47:31,230 --> 00:47:36,000 Marissa Cotrina: to do a race. New York City was so special, 832 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,850 Marissa Cotrina: but then... So I decided to take up on the 833 00:47:38,850 --> 00:47:42,120 Marissa Cotrina: challenge, thinking, " Oh man, I need to do this to lose 834 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:47,489 Marissa Cotrina: my pregnancy weight," which was, of course, wishful thinking. But 835 00:47:47,489 --> 00:47:51,630 Marissa Cotrina: then also, to take the opportunity to do some fundraising 836 00:47:51,630 --> 00:47:56,279 Marissa Cotrina: for my son's disorder, and also as a way to heal 837 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,070 Marissa Cotrina: with all the stress of being a caregiver of a 838 00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:00,540 Marissa Cotrina: child with special needs. 839 00:48:01,260 --> 00:48:04,469 Meb: Incredible. Like you said, one of your sons was a 840 00:48:04,469 --> 00:48:07,710 Meb: rare disease and you have helped create a charity running 841 00:48:07,710 --> 00:48:11,910 Meb: team that support families affected by that disease. Can you 842 00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:15,180 Meb: tell us about the effort and how running has been 843 00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:17,610 Meb: a source of healing for you and others? 844 00:48:18,750 --> 00:48:28,200 Marissa Cotrina: Oh, it's been completely transformative. The sense of overcoming and 845 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,400 Marissa Cotrina: accomplishment that you feel, and the meaningful that it is 846 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,800 Marissa Cotrina: to do it, thinking that this is going to help 847 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,810 Marissa Cotrina: children like my son. He has a metabolic disorder, so 848 00:48:39,810 --> 00:48:46,530 Marissa Cotrina: for these children it's called propionic acidemia and their energy loops 849 00:48:46,530 --> 00:48:50,280 Marissa Cotrina: don't work well. So for them, a marathon is really a daily 850 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:56,460 Marissa Cotrina: struggle. So, it just kept me going through the race, 851 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,960 Marissa Cotrina: and I think it keeps us going all, thinking what these children 852 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,930 Marissa Cotrina: endure. And when you are in your low point of 853 00:49:03,930 --> 00:49:07,620 Marissa Cotrina: the marathon, thinking what they have to go through every 854 00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:10,529 Marissa Cotrina: time, really gets you to the finish line. And I've 855 00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:14,310 Marissa Cotrina: seen other families now joining us, parents that have lost their children 856 00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:18,480 Marissa Cotrina: already, and this is a way for them to forget 857 00:49:19,770 --> 00:49:24,000 Marissa Cotrina: for a few hours, the grief, and embrace the community, 858 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,969 Marissa Cotrina: the running, the effort, and it's a beautiful thing. 859 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,359 Meb: Well, thanks for sharing that story. I'm pretty sure this is 860 00:49:30,450 --> 00:49:34,590 Meb: very inspiring in helping others overcome obstacles. You were a 861 00:49:34,590 --> 00:49:38,850 Meb: competitive tennis player before running. What was the biggest adjustment when 862 00:49:38,850 --> 00:49:41,250 Meb: you switched to long distance running? I'm pretty sure from 863 00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:43,589 Meb: that court and react so quickly, and then to run 26 miles. 864 00:49:44,609 --> 00:49:50,910 Marissa Cotrina: It's a completely different, but I think, well, first of all, I 865 00:49:50,910 --> 00:49:53,880 Marissa Cotrina: have to clarify that after the first marathon I decided 866 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,279 Marissa Cotrina: not to do it again. So- 867 00:49:57,060 --> 00:49:59,310 Meb: We're always like that. We always say that, but somehow 868 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:00,270 Meb: thank God for short memory. 869 00:50:00,270 --> 00:50:04,380 Marissa Cotrina: The training was just so horrendous. And I did not 870 00:50:04,380 --> 00:50:06,960 Marissa Cotrina: do it again for four years until my brother invited 871 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,589 Marissa Cotrina: me to run it in Barcelona, my hometown. I said, " Okay, 872 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,290 Marissa Cotrina: that sounds like something, I really would love to do 873 00:50:13,290 --> 00:50:15,420 Marissa Cotrina: that," but I didn't want to do the training, I 874 00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:19,200 Marissa Cotrina: really don't. So I started, I didn't do the training 875 00:50:20,010 --> 00:50:23,489 Marissa Cotrina: as the way we are supposed to do it because 876 00:50:23,489 --> 00:50:27,480 Marissa Cotrina: I tend to injure very easily. So my thinking was, " 877 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,880 Marissa Cotrina: Well, if I do all this training, I get injured, 878 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,550 Marissa Cotrina: I have to stop for weeks. Maybe if I run 879 00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:36,000 Marissa Cotrina: less, I don't get injured and I can run the 880 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,450 Marissa Cotrina: same." And that's exactly what happened. I didn't run as 881 00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:43,680 Marissa Cotrina: intense in training and my time was just 10 seconds 882 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,310 Marissa Cotrina: more than four years earlier. So, that's what got me 883 00:50:47,310 --> 00:50:51,330 Marissa Cotrina: hooked into running again, not to have to do so 884 00:50:51,330 --> 00:50:55,319 Marissa Cotrina: much training and still be able to enjoy. But going 885 00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:00,089 Marissa Cotrina: back to your question, the difference, competitive... I mean, you 886 00:51:00,090 --> 00:51:04,890 Marissa Cotrina: know better than anyone, competitive sports are not easy. I 887 00:51:04,890 --> 00:51:10,140 Marissa Cotrina: did during my childhood and my teens, and it's really 888 00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:13,560 Marissa Cotrina: a lot of pressure. Tennis is a very individual sport, 889 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,390 Marissa Cotrina: it's very lonely. And I had a lot of pressure 890 00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:22,500 Marissa Cotrina: playing sports at the competitive level. At the time, we 891 00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:28,410 Marissa Cotrina: didn't have coaches, we didn't have mental health and things like that. 892 00:51:28,739 --> 00:51:32,610 Marissa Cotrina: So when I discovered long distance running, it was like 893 00:51:32,610 --> 00:51:35,820 Marissa Cotrina: a liberation for me. The way that you go, go, 894 00:51:35,820 --> 00:51:38,850 Marissa Cotrina: go, and just with your thoughts and it's you against 895 00:51:38,850 --> 00:51:42,000 Marissa Cotrina: you. It was really a beautiful thing to discover, and 896 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,840 Marissa Cotrina: that's why I'm so in love with it, because I 897 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,090 Marissa Cotrina: discovered a lot of joy doing a sport that I 898 00:51:48,090 --> 00:51:50,610 Marissa Cotrina: didn't have when I was doing competitive tennis. 899 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,549 Meb: Absolutely. No, you have to be quick reflex, but here, 900 00:51:53,550 --> 00:51:55,410 Meb: your own pace, you can slow down if you want 901 00:51:55,410 --> 00:51:57,210 Meb: to, you can pick it up if you would like to. 902 00:51:57,210 --> 00:52:00,930 Meb: But now, you have completed 11 marathons and 49 half- 903 00:52:00,930 --> 00:52:05,460 Meb: marathons. Looking back, what was the most memorable race and why? 904 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,400 Marissa Cotrina: Well, certainly the first New York City Marathon, of course. That was 905 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:18,600 Marissa Cotrina: incredible. The sense of accomplishment and the... It's an amazing 906 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,340 Marissa Cotrina: race. After having done others in other cities, there's nothing 907 00:52:23,340 --> 00:52:29,250 Marissa Cotrina: that compares to New York City. The crowd, the everything 908 00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:34,739 Marissa Cotrina: is so joyous, and you forget that this is such 909 00:52:34,739 --> 00:52:38,640 Marissa Cotrina: a painful and long race. But I have to say 910 00:52:38,910 --> 00:52:41,580 Marissa Cotrina: I have a second super favorite, which was the very 911 00:52:41,580 --> 00:52:46,890 Marissa Cotrina: first New York City Half, that it was the first 912 00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:52,649 Marissa Cotrina: Nike one that I had the luck to run. And 913 00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:56,310 Marissa Cotrina: it was the first time that Times Square closed for a 914 00:52:56,430 --> 00:53:00,180 Marissa Cotrina: race. And at that time, we all started at 7:00 in the 915 00:53:00,180 --> 00:53:03,989 Marissa Cotrina: morning and we all went downhill after the loop in 916 00:53:03,989 --> 00:53:09,570 Marissa Cotrina: the park, and this amazing view of Times Square, super early 917 00:53:09,570 --> 00:53:13,319 Marissa Cotrina: in the morning, nobody around. There were no cheering crowds, 918 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,100 Marissa Cotrina: nothing, complete silence, and all the lights. It was still 919 00:53:17,219 --> 00:53:21,420 Marissa Cotrina: very early. And it was such an impressive view of 920 00:53:21,420 --> 00:53:25,380 Marissa Cotrina: the city. And being able to have done that, it keeps 921 00:53:25,469 --> 00:53:27,870 Marissa Cotrina: very alive in my memory. It was very nice. 922 00:53:28,290 --> 00:53:33,089 Meb: Yeah, wonderful. I know the United Airlines NYC Half or 923 00:53:33,090 --> 00:53:35,460 Meb: the New York City Marathon, people, you got to that once in 924 00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:37,620 Meb: your lifetime. People just want to visit New York and 925 00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:39,150 Meb: we get the chance to run those things, so it's 926 00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:39,840 Meb: pretty incredible. 927 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,800 Marissa Cotrina: Absolutely, yes. 928 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,370 Meb: Now that you got your husband to run it, your son is 929 00:53:44,370 --> 00:53:47,760 Meb: running the first NYC marathon this year to raise money 930 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,340 Meb: for the cause close to your heart, what has it 931 00:53:50,340 --> 00:53:52,980 Meb: been like to watch him take on this journey? 932 00:53:54,270 --> 00:53:55,591 Marissa Cotrina: My husband or my son? 933 00:53:55,591 --> 00:53:57,270 Meb: Your son. 934 00:53:57,690 --> 00:54:02,279 Marissa Cotrina: Well, this is funny, because since he was little, of 935 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,520 Marissa Cotrina: course, being with from a family that has always been 936 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,630 Marissa Cotrina: in the sports, I tried to teach him tennis, I tried 937 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:13,020 Marissa Cotrina: to engage him into the racing, the kids races that 938 00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:15,360 Marissa Cotrina: he did one or two as a race. He absolutely 939 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,910 Marissa Cotrina: hated it, all that I tried to do with him. 940 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,430 Marissa Cotrina: So of course, I let him alone. He went to 941 00:54:20,430 --> 00:54:23,250 Marissa Cotrina: play soccer with his friends. There was nothing else I 942 00:54:23,250 --> 00:54:27,810 Marissa Cotrina: could do for him. And then he hit the teenage 943 00:54:27,810 --> 00:54:31,980 Marissa Cotrina: years where you really cannot talk to him anymore, he doesn't 944 00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:35,790 Marissa Cotrina: talk to you anymore. And now, he's just like becoming 945 00:54:35,790 --> 00:54:38,580 Marissa Cotrina: a person again and he's doing all these things. He 946 00:54:38,580 --> 00:54:42,480 Marissa Cotrina: now is embracing Spanish food that he never liked or 947 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,020 Marissa Cotrina: he's embracing, right now, he's appreciating my race, said, " Oh Mom, 948 00:54:46,020 --> 00:54:47,730 Marissa Cotrina: I really want to do this. I have to do it 949 00:54:47,730 --> 00:54:50,130 Marissa Cotrina: this year, because otherwise I'm going to go... I have 950 00:54:50,130 --> 00:54:53,040 Marissa Cotrina: to do this for Gabriel." So I'm just speechless. I said, " You 951 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,130 Marissa Cotrina: know what? Since you're really not my son, I cannot 952 00:54:56,130 --> 00:55:00,690 Marissa Cotrina: recognize you." So for me, it's super exciting that apparently 953 00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:03,420 Marissa Cotrina: he was listening to all the things that we were 954 00:55:03,420 --> 00:55:08,940 Marissa Cotrina: telling him, and now I'm very proud that he decided 955 00:55:08,940 --> 00:55:12,510 Marissa Cotrina: to take up on the challenge. I'm very concerned that 956 00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:15,750 Marissa Cotrina: he's not going to make it to June preseason because 957 00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:21,750 Marissa Cotrina: he's very ambitious about his time and all that, but I'll be delighted 958 00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:23,820 Marissa Cotrina: to be cheering for him in November. 959 00:55:24,570 --> 00:55:35,070 Meb: That's awesome. I'm looking forward to his results and achieving something big in the master of Marathon. I know I'm a father to teenagers going on right now, and 960 00:55:35,070 --> 00:55:36,779 Meb: it's good to know that they always come back. 961 00:55:36,989 --> 00:55:37,680 Marissa Cotrina: They come back. 962 00:55:38,910 --> 00:55:41,040 Meb: But talk about athletic comeback. And you had to make a 963 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,140 Meb: comeback to the United Airlines NYC Half Marathon after skipping or 964 00:55:46,140 --> 00:55:48,660 Meb: canceling a few races. How was the feeling of that 965 00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:49,080 Meb: this year? 966 00:55:50,580 --> 00:55:57,989 Marissa Cotrina: Well, I think this stubborn injury in my achilles from 967 00:55:57,989 --> 00:56:01,230 Marissa Cotrina: the summer of 2023 really got me very depressed last year, 968 00:56:01,230 --> 00:56:03,780 Marissa Cotrina: because I really thought I wouldn't be able to go 969 00:56:03,780 --> 00:56:11,790 Marissa Cotrina: back to running. So, I've changed a few things around, 970 00:56:11,790 --> 00:56:15,930 Marissa Cotrina: my therapists have given me great advice. So I've been 971 00:56:16,650 --> 00:56:20,009 Marissa Cotrina: in testing mode. I wasn't even sure which shoes to 972 00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:24,480 Marissa Cotrina: use on the morning of the race, and I went 973 00:56:24,510 --> 00:56:26,730 Marissa Cotrina: out there and I said, " Okay, let's see if I 974 00:56:26,730 --> 00:56:29,850 Marissa Cotrina: can complete seven miles no pain." And then see I 975 00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:33,480 Marissa Cotrina: was able to do it all, no pain, absolutely nothing. The 976 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,560 Marissa Cotrina: day after, I'm feeling fantastic. So I'm really, really excited to 977 00:56:37,739 --> 00:56:40,290 Marissa Cotrina: be back running again at 57. 978 00:56:42,510 --> 00:56:46,290 Meb: Amazing. From the little tennis court to the marathons and doing 11 979 00:56:46,290 --> 00:56:50,430 Meb: and 49. Marissa, you're doing a great job. And also, doing a 980 00:56:50,430 --> 00:56:52,710 Meb: rare disease that your son has to be able, to 981 00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:55,799 Meb: impact other people's lives, and to cheer him on and 982 00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:58,890 Meb: to give him a therapy for a better life. So, 983 00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:00,810 Meb: we are so grateful to have you and thanks for 984 00:57:00,810 --> 00:57:01,410 Meb: joining us today. 985 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,439 Marissa Cotrina: It was an honor. Thank you very much for inviting me. 986 00:57:05,010 --> 00:57:07,230 Becs Gentry: Thank you for joining us and being a member of 987 00:57:07,230 --> 00:57:10,020 Becs Gentry: New York Road Runners now to the final part of 988 00:57:10,020 --> 00:57:10,529 Becs Gentry: the show, our Meb Minute. 989 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,660 Meb: Thanks Becs. Okay. Welcome to the Set the Pace show. 990 00:57:16,410 --> 00:57:19,890 Meb: I know it's a critical question, so recovery after half- 991 00:57:19,890 --> 00:57:23,460 Meb: marathon is the key. How do you recommend a runner strike 992 00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:27,870 Meb: the right balance between resting and maintaining fitness, a situation 993 00:57:27,870 --> 00:57:29,370 Meb: toward full marathon? 994 00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:33,660 Kate Baird: Yeah, that's a great question. The goal is to allow 995 00:57:33,660 --> 00:57:36,630 Kate Baird: your body enough time to recover from what was hopefully 996 00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:40,919 Kate Baird: a peak effort without losing too much time into your 997 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,620 Kate Baird: next training phase. So there's a few things that are 998 00:57:43,620 --> 00:57:46,320 Kate Baird: going to determine how much time to spend on recovery 999 00:57:46,770 --> 00:57:50,100 Kate Baird: before you starting your next build. First is going to 1000 00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:53,910 Kate Baird: be fitness level. I think this often takes time to 1001 00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:56,940 Kate Baird: know thyself as a runner, but I've noticed that the 1002 00:57:56,940 --> 00:58:00,300 Kate Baird: more seasoned runners generally have a better sense of how 1003 00:58:00,300 --> 00:58:04,680 Kate Baird: much downtime they need after a peak race. But even 1004 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,980 Kate Baird: for new runners, I typically see anywhere from one to 1005 00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:10,710 Kate Baird: two weeks on the quick end and four to five 1006 00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:14,130 Kate Baird: weeks on the longer end. The second thing that we 1007 00:58:14,130 --> 00:58:16,650 Kate Baird: want to think about is timing. The timing of your 1008 00:58:16,650 --> 00:58:20,130 Kate Baird: marathon also matters because you may be planning a specific 1009 00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:23,850 Kate Baird: program to develop yourself for that effort, and a shorter 1010 00:58:23,850 --> 00:58:26,580 Kate Baird: turnaround may mean less recovery time in the end 'cause 1011 00:58:26,580 --> 00:58:29,520 Kate Baird: you got to get going. So you might be focused 1012 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,220 Kate Baird: on trying to get back to building your mileage. If 1013 00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:34,530 Kate Baird: you have a few months between races, I think it 1014 00:58:34,530 --> 00:58:38,430 Kate Baird: can be beneficial to give yourself weeks of unloading, focus 1015 00:58:38,430 --> 00:58:41,520 Kate Baird: on additional cross- training and strength training to help prepare 1016 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,110 Kate Baird: your body for the next build. 1017 00:58:43,710 --> 00:58:46,260 Meb: The build up is big, but tapering is big and getting 1018 00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:49,200 Meb: healthy, that finish line is very important. But what are 1019 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,040 Meb: the biggest mistakes runners make when shifting from half- marathon 1020 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,630 Meb: training to full marathon training? 1021 00:58:55,290 --> 00:58:58,320 Kate Baird: Yeah, I think there's two big mistakes here that I 1022 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,590 Kate Baird: like to talk to my runners about. First and foremost, 1023 00:59:01,590 --> 00:59:04,919 Kate Baird: they do not take the lessons learned and carry them 1024 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,280 Kate Baird: through. So this can be related to things like fueling 1025 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,690 Kate Baird: or pacing strategies, and even preparation the day and night 1026 00:59:12,690 --> 00:59:16,350 Kate Baird: beforehand. I think it's always essential to reflect after each 1027 00:59:16,350 --> 00:59:20,070 Kate Baird: race, and focus on what really worked, while understanding why 1028 00:59:20,070 --> 00:59:23,130 Kate Baird: something maybe didn't and whether it was in your control 1029 00:59:23,130 --> 00:59:26,430 Kate Baird: or not. I think the second thing is, when you 1030 00:59:26,430 --> 00:59:29,460 Kate Baird: transition into the marathon, is that sometimes we peak too 1031 00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:33,240 Kate Baird: early. So it can be tempting following the half to 1032 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,640 Kate Baird: just kind of build your mileage from where you were 1033 00:59:35,970 --> 00:59:39,180 Kate Baird: and continue on like a linear path. But often, the 1034 00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:41,670 Kate Baird: timeline might be longer than that, and you want to 1035 00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:45,000 Kate Baird: be mindful of whether you're accumulating too much fatigue as 1036 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,130 Kate Baird: you pile up those miles towards the end of your 1037 00:59:47,130 --> 00:59:50,100 Kate Baird: marathon program, which is why that recovery time can be 1038 00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:53,160 Kate Baird: so important. This is why simply sitting down with a 1039 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,430 Kate Baird: calendar and plotting out your timing can be really helpful, 1040 00:59:56,460 --> 01:00:00,240 Kate Baird: and include things like vacations, big life events as well, health, 1041 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,580 Kate Baird: so that you have the time to program around these 1042 01:00:02,580 --> 01:00:03,480 Kate Baird: things if you can. 1043 01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:07,620 Meb: Sounds great. What are some of the impactful strength training 1044 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,150 Meb: or mobility exercise runners should incorporate into their routine as 1045 01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:14,820 Meb: a transition between half- marathon to full marathon? 1046 01:00:15,930 --> 01:00:18,000 Kate Baird: Yeah, this is a little bit of a trick question, 1047 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,240 Kate Baird: Meb, 'cause I think runners should incorporate strength and mobility all 1048 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:26,220 Kate Baird: year round, but especially before something as long and taxing 1049 01:00:26,220 --> 01:00:30,030 Kate Baird: as a marathon program. Your body will be accumulating fatigue 1050 01:00:30,060 --> 01:00:33,480 Kate Baird: during this build, which makes you more susceptible to injury 1051 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,420 Kate Baird: as the weeks go on. And some tried and true 1052 01:00:36,450 --> 01:00:39,810 Kate Baird: ways to prevent injury are strengthening the muscle groups like 1053 01:00:39,810 --> 01:00:45,060 Kate Baird: the lateral hips, the glutes, calves, hamstrings, quads, and core, 1054 01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:48,150 Kate Baird: as well as to maintain good muscle balance and mobility 1055 01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:52,800 Kate Baird: of those joints. I think including a dynamic warmup in 1056 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,030 Kate Baird: your routine to mobilize these areas before running, as well 1057 01:00:57,030 --> 01:01:02,010 Kate Baird: as recovery after, is key. And specifically, a lot of 1058 01:01:02,010 --> 01:01:04,620 Kate Baird: runners start to do speed training when they go into 1059 01:01:04,620 --> 01:01:07,680 Kate Baird: a marathon build. And your warmups and strength training are 1060 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,860 Kate Baird: key, because the demands of running faster are a little 1061 01:01:10,860 --> 01:01:13,950 Kate Baird: bit different than the demands of maintaining a marathon goal 1062 01:01:13,950 --> 01:01:17,190 Kate Baird: pace. So your muscles have to contract faster and harder 1063 01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:19,500 Kate Baird: to move your legs. And strength training can help you 1064 01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:21,840 Kate Baird: prepare for this and reduce your risk of injury while 1065 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,640 Kate Baird: you try these two styles of running. 1066 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,330 Meb: Absolutely. No, training for half- marathon, full marathon, you got 1067 01:01:27,330 --> 01:01:32,490 Meb: to do pre- run, during your run, post- run recovery, but full 1068 01:01:32,490 --> 01:01:36,720 Meb: marathon means longer training runs. What's your advice for runners 1069 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,750 Meb: increasing their mileage safely after a half- marathon? 1070 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,110 Kate Baird: Yeah, of course we all know the primary goal is 1071 01:01:43,110 --> 01:01:46,470 Kate Baird: not to progress too much too fast, we've all heard 1072 01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:51,120 Kate Baird: it, which can include both adding mileage as well as increasing 1073 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,220 Kate Baird: intensity. And I think we have to be mindful of 1074 01:01:53,220 --> 01:01:57,240 Kate Baird: that part as well. Unfortunately, we haven't cracked the code 1075 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,200 Kate Baird: on the exact amount of mileage progression that both completely 1076 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,250 Kate Baird: removes risk of injury and results in great fitness. But 1077 01:02:05,250 --> 01:02:08,490 Kate Baird: some great ways to monitor your progressions are to utilize 1078 01:02:08,490 --> 01:02:11,340 Kate Baird: an acute to chronic workload ratio. So there's a little 1079 01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:13,740 Kate Baird: bit of math involved. But you might look at your 1080 01:02:13,740 --> 01:02:17,460 Kate Baird: current weekly mileage and divide it by your previous three, 1081 01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:20,430 Kate Baird: four, or five week average. And there seems to be 1082 01:02:20,430 --> 01:02:22,770 Kate Baird: a sweet spot in there that a lot of clinicians 1083 01:02:22,770 --> 01:02:26,400 Kate Baird: are interested in between about a 0.8 to 1. 3 ratio 1084 01:02:26,730 --> 01:02:29,100 Kate Baird: that might be best for not over- training the body. 1085 01:02:29,460 --> 01:02:32,130 Kate Baird: And then the second thing is, I think our wearables 1086 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,490 Kate Baird: and data tracking software like Strava, Garmin and training piece, 1087 01:02:35,490 --> 01:02:39,060 Kate Baird: they all offer ways to monitor your progressions. So I 1088 01:02:39,060 --> 01:02:42,960 Kate Baird: think just utilizing whatever tech you have to see if 1089 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,070 Kate Baird: there's any weird peaks or valleys might be also really helpful. 1090 01:02:47,490 --> 01:02:51,180 Meb: You're absolutely right, Kate, tech is very important, but so 1091 01:02:51,180 --> 01:02:55,410 Meb: is hydration. How do you feel different from half- marathon 1092 01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:58,950 Meb: versus a full marathon? How should runners start adjusting their 1093 01:02:58,950 --> 01:03:01,020 Meb: nutrition as they build up more mileage? 1094 01:03:02,220 --> 01:03:04,770 Kate Baird: Yeah, I think you have to continue with the mantra 1095 01:03:04,770 --> 01:03:09,330 Kate Baird: of always be practicing your fueling. So every single long 1096 01:03:09,330 --> 01:03:13,140 Kate Baird: run is an opportunity to try out that strategy, and 1097 01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:17,340 Kate Baird: you should utilize every single long run to do so. 1098 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,180 Kate Baird: You will also likely need to consider seasonal changes in 1099 01:03:21,180 --> 01:03:25,380 Kate Baird: temperature. So it might be one temperature right now, but 1100 01:03:25,380 --> 01:03:27,570 Kate Baird: maybe if your marathon is three months from now, that's 1101 01:03:27,570 --> 01:03:30,030 Kate Baird: going to be a completely different environment, and we have 1102 01:03:30,030 --> 01:03:32,670 Kate Baird: to account for changes in sweat rate. And then I 1103 01:03:32,670 --> 01:03:34,980 Kate Baird: think we need to learn the lessons from the half- 1104 01:03:34,980 --> 01:03:38,160 Kate Baird: marathon and expect that feeling an hydration will play an 1105 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,450 Kate Baird: even bigger role in your marathon stints, because during this 1106 01:03:42,450 --> 01:03:46,920 Kate Baird: distance, almost everybody needs to replete some glycogen and certainly 1107 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:51,030 Kate Baird: fluids as we go past that two hour mark in duration. 1108 01:03:52,110 --> 01:03:56,190 Meb: Now we have talked about all the basic recovery, hydration, but the one thing 1109 01:03:56,190 --> 01:04:00,990 Meb: we're forgetting is the mental preparation from changing from 13.1 to 26. 2 1110 01:04:00,990 --> 01:04:04,470 Meb: miles. How can runners start preparing mentally for the long 1111 01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:07,500 Meb: distance? Because I know they say 13.1 miles, it's like, " 1112 01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:09,480 Meb: Oh, there's no way I could do another 13.1." 1113 01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:13,590 Kate Baird: So a few tips that I like to give my runners is that there should 1114 01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:16,260 Kate Baird: be some key runs in your programming that are meant 1115 01:04:16,260 --> 01:04:19,170 Kate Baird: to challenge you mentally. So make sure that you plan for 1116 01:04:19,260 --> 01:04:21,960 Kate Baird: these runs and focus on their purpose while you're out 1117 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,020 Kate Baird: there, whether you're pushing race pace miles at the end 1118 01:04:25,020 --> 01:04:28,320 Kate Baird: of a long run or completing difficult intervals. If the 1119 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,200 Kate Baird: run is designed to push you into discomfort, this is 1120 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,860 Kate Baird: a good time to practice your mental strategy. And some tips 1121 01:04:34,860 --> 01:04:38,040 Kate Baird: for a mental strategy include using a mantra, which I find 1122 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,390 Kate Baird: incredibly helpful, having a backup playlist with some turbocharged songs 1123 01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:44,940 Kate Baird: that you love, or making sure that you plan these 1124 01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:47,729 Kate Baird: runs maybe with a friend who can hang with you 1125 01:04:47,730 --> 01:04:50,310 Kate Baird: for your planned pacing. I know those things can always 1126 01:04:50,310 --> 01:04:53,550 Kate Baird: be really helpful. The second thing is to practice your 1127 01:04:53,550 --> 01:04:57,810 Kate Baird: reactions to surprises or changes during your training so that 1128 01:04:57,810 --> 01:05:00,240 Kate Baird: you don't get flustered if there are big changes on 1129 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,060 Kate Baird: race day. So training with that in mind will help 1130 01:05:03,060 --> 01:05:05,460 Kate Baird: you not blow up if things get a little bit 1131 01:05:05,460 --> 01:05:09,390 Kate Baird: wonky. Learning to pivot is an important mental strategy. 1132 01:05:09,660 --> 01:05:13,530 Meb: Well, as they prepare, key to success is preparation. On 1133 01:05:13,530 --> 01:05:17,340 Meb: race day, is 90% mental, 10% physical as they go 1134 01:05:17,340 --> 01:05:20,910 Meb: for that pursuit. So, if you've done the preparation, you've done the recovery, 1135 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,090 Meb: excellence is waiting, but it doesn't always... Marathon, sometimes you 1136 01:05:24,090 --> 01:05:26,520 Meb: defeat it and sometimes it defeats you, but the preparation 1137 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,290 Meb: is the key. So thanks for being with us and 1138 01:05:28,290 --> 01:05:29,521 Meb: look forward to see how they do in the spring marathons. 1139 01:05:29,521 --> 01:05:32,850 Kate Baird: Amazing. Thank you for having me. 1140 01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:36,270 Becs Gentry: That does it for another episode of Set the Pace. 1141 01:05:36,690 --> 01:05:41,700 Becs Gentry: Thank you to today's guests, Vinny Guadagnino, Marissa Cotrina, and 1142 01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:45,960 Becs Gentry: Hospital for Special Surgery's Kate Baird. If you liked this 1143 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,440 Becs Gentry: episode, please do go ahead, subscribe, rate, or leave a 1144 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,710 Becs Gentry: comment for the show on whatever platform you're listening on. 1145 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,680 Becs Gentry: This not only helps us, but it helps others find 1146 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,680 Becs Gentry: out about the show, too. Have a great week. See 1147 01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:59,940 Becs Gentry: you out there for some miles.