1 00:00:04,050 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Thank you New York. Today, we're reminded of the power 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,170 Speaker 1: of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on 3 00:00:13,170 --> 00:00:13,709 Speaker 1: your mark. 4 00:00:15,839 --> 00:00:19,829 Speaker 2: The first woman to finish for the second straight year here 5 00:00:19,829 --> 00:00:23,310 Speaker 2: in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling Miki 6 00:00:23,310 --> 00:00:26,190 Speaker 2: Gorman and why not? 2: 29:30 the time for Grete Waitz. 7 00:00:26,190 --> 00:00:30,450 Speaker 3: Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes 8 00:00:30,450 --> 00:00:33,180 Speaker 3: to the line. Pointing to his chest, pointing to the U.S. 9 00:00:34,409 --> 00:00:44,070 Speaker 3: A. He so proudly wears across his chest. A great day for Meb Keflezighi. 10 00:00:44,129 --> 00:00:47,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hey, everybody, and welcome to another episode of Set the Pace, 11 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:50,848 Rob Simmelkjaer: the official podcast of New York Road Runners presented by 12 00:00:50,848 --> 00:00:53,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: Peloton. I am your host and CEO of New York 13 00:00:53,609 --> 00:00:56,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: Road Runners, Rob Simmelkjaer. Great to have you with us 14 00:00:56,430 --> 00:00:59,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: on a very special week here in New York at 15 00:00:59,340 --> 00:01:02,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Roadrunners. So much going on. Global Running Day, 16 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:06,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Mastercard New York Mini 10K, a lot happening and 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: we're thrilled to have you with us as we kick 18 00:01:08,429 --> 00:01:11,879 Rob Simmelkjaer: it off and we're missing Becs this week. It's just 19 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:16,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: me. My co- host, Becs Gentry, is off traveling this 20 00:01:16,110 --> 00:01:19,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: week, but I was so excited to talk to Becs 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,408 Rob Simmelkjaer: about my big weekend. If you listen to the show 22 00:01:22,410 --> 00:01:25,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: regularly, you know that I ran a half- marathon this 23 00:01:25,230 --> 00:01:28,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: past Sunday. It was the Fairfield Half Marathon in Fairfield, 24 00:01:28,859 --> 00:01:31,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: Connecticut. First time I'd run that event, and first of 25 00:01:31,890 --> 00:01:33,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: all, I want to say it was a great event. 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: Congratulations to the organizers. That's a race that's been going 27 00:01:37,170 --> 00:01:40,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: on for over 40 years and it's just a beautiful 28 00:01:40,559 --> 00:01:43,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: race. It starts and finishes right on the beach in 29 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:46,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: Fairfield, Connecticut, and it was a good day to be 30 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:48,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: at the beach on Sunday because it was a warm 31 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:51,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: day. It is a hilly course too. I knew it 32 00:01:51,870 --> 00:01:55,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: was hilly going into this race, but I don't think 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: I expected the hills to just keep coming and coming 34 00:01:57,929 --> 00:02:00,809 Rob Simmelkjaer: and coming. But I tell you what, I'm so thrilled 35 00:02:00,809 --> 00:02:04,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: with the day I had. I must have really done 36 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:07,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: a good job training because I felt terrific the whole 37 00:02:07,860 --> 00:02:12,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: way through. Ran my second- best half- marathon time ever 38 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:16,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: at 1: 35 and change. And for me, that's a 39 00:02:16,830 --> 00:02:21,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: great time and a great experience for me given I tried 40 00:02:21,690 --> 00:02:24,418 Rob Simmelkjaer: to run that race a year ago and was injured, 41 00:02:24,450 --> 00:02:26,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: not able to even make it to the starting line. 42 00:02:26,820 --> 00:02:29,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: And so I just felt fantastic and want to thank 43 00:02:29,730 --> 00:02:33,329 Rob Simmelkjaer: everybody from the New York Roadrunners Group training to everybody 44 00:02:33,330 --> 00:02:35,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: I've run with to help me get ready for a 45 00:02:35,130 --> 00:02:37,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: race like that. And I tell you, I did something 46 00:02:37,530 --> 00:02:40,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: I never do and have never done before in a race. 47 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:44,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: I am usually the master of the negative splits. I 48 00:02:44,730 --> 00:02:48,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: like to go out pretty slow and try to save 49 00:02:48,510 --> 00:02:51,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: something for the end. For this one, I did the 50 00:02:51,450 --> 00:02:56,249 Rob Simmelkjaer: exact opposite. I went out so fast and I'm not 51 00:02:56,250 --> 00:02:59,669 Rob Simmelkjaer: sure exactly what was going through my mind to be 52 00:02:59,669 --> 00:03:02,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: honest. I think it may have been the fact that 53 00:03:02,370 --> 00:03:04,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: it was a warm day and I knew it was 54 00:03:04,620 --> 00:03:06,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to be getting hotter and hotter as the day 55 00:03:06,990 --> 00:03:09,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: went on and I felt really good at 8: 00 56 00:03:09,660 --> 00:03:12,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: AM. The temperature was still reasonable and it was a 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,479 Rob Simmelkjaer: flat start and I said, " Let me just bank some 58 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: time here early on." And so I ended up running 59 00:03:17,940 --> 00:03:20,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: very quick out of the gate, my fastest mile on 60 00:03:20,370 --> 00:03:23,608 Rob Simmelkjaer: the whole race was the second mile. I ran a 6/ 40 61 00:03:23,610 --> 00:03:28,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: split the second mile, which was bananas. But you know what? It 62 00:03:28,110 --> 00:03:30,569 Rob Simmelkjaer: didn't turn into a fly and die. It was more 63 00:03:30,570 --> 00:03:32,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: like a fly and fight. I kind of was able 64 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:35,009 Rob Simmelkjaer: to hang on and finish with a respect all the 65 00:03:35,010 --> 00:03:37,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: time toward the tail end, but I've never done that 66 00:03:37,260 --> 00:03:40,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: before. Not sure I'll do that again. I'm sure Becs 67 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: would have some things to say to me about those 68 00:03:43,170 --> 00:03:46,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: splits. We'll talk about that later. But all in all, 69 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:50,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: it was just a great day. Congratulations to the 2, 700 70 00:03:50,460 --> 00:03:53,129 Rob Simmelkjaer: or so finishers. And another thing I'll say about running 71 00:03:53,129 --> 00:03:55,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: a race like that, it was such a great race, 72 00:03:56,190 --> 00:04:00,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: but it just reminded me of how big a scale 73 00:04:00,300 --> 00:04:03,119 Rob Simmelkjaer: everything we do at Road Runners is. This was a 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,999 Rob Simmelkjaer: race with 2, 700 runners and it was a great day 75 00:04:06,509 --> 00:04:10,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: and they did a phenomenal job. In New York, our 76 00:04:10,020 --> 00:04:13,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: weekly races are 5, 000 runners and I just think 77 00:04:13,530 --> 00:04:16,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: it reminded me of how lucky we are in New 78 00:04:16,770 --> 00:04:19,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: York to have the incredible scale of running community that 79 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: we have and also how good our team is here 80 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: at New York Roadrunners to put on events of that 81 00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:28,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: scale week in and week out. So it's great to 82 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:31,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: get out and run in a community race like that, but 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: it just reminds me of what we have in New York 84 00:04:34,410 --> 00:04:36,118 Rob Simmelkjaer: and how blessed we are in New York City to 85 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: have what we have in our running community here. So 86 00:04:39,570 --> 00:04:42,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: thanks again to everybody up in Fairfield for a great, 87 00:04:42,059 --> 00:04:45,178 Rob Simmelkjaer: great event. We are so thrilled to have Dakotah Lindwurm joining 88 00:04:45,178 --> 00:04:48,509 Rob Simmelkjaer: us in just a little while to talk about her incredible 89 00:04:48,510 --> 00:04:52,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: journey from being on average high school runner to being a 90 00:04:52,740 --> 00:04:55,409 Rob Simmelkjaer: member of the U. S. Olympic Marathon team. She'll be 91 00:04:55,410 --> 00:04:58,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: joining us in just a bit. And here at New 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,829 Rob Simmelkjaer: York Roadrunners, we are in final preparations for this weekend's 93 00:05:01,830 --> 00:05:05,699 Rob Simmelkjaer: Mastercard New York Mini 10K and boy, what a pro 94 00:05:05,699 --> 00:05:10,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: field we have lined up. Senbere Teferi, Sharon Lokedi, Sara 95 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hall, Edna Kiplagat, Molly Huddle. For those who want to 96 00:05:14,250 --> 00:05:17,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: check out the Mini 10K this weekend, of course you 97 00:05:17,219 --> 00:05:20,009 Rob Simmelkjaer: can show up in person. It's going down Central Park 98 00:05:20,009 --> 00:05:22,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: West and then into Central Park. But you can also 99 00:05:22,650 --> 00:05:28,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: catch the race on ESPN+, on abc7ny. com and on 100 00:05:28,740 --> 00:05:32,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: NYRR's social and digital media channels. All those links will 101 00:05:32,580 --> 00:05:34,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: be in the show notes, so you can check that 102 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,749 Rob Simmelkjaer: out. And by the way, if you want to know 103 00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:40,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: how we got this incredible pro field, check out last 104 00:05:40,529 --> 00:05:43,049 Rob Simmelkjaer: week's episode of Set the Pace. Our general manager of 105 00:05:43,050 --> 00:05:45,839 Rob Simmelkjaer: pro athletes, Sam Grotewold, joined us and took us behind 106 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: the scenes of this year's Mastercard New York Mini 10K 107 00:05:48,990 --> 00:05:52,409 Rob Simmelkjaer: field. So check that out as well. Also, if you're 108 00:05:52,410 --> 00:05:56,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: listening to this, you're not too far removed from June 109 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,039 Rob Simmelkjaer: 5th of this week, which was Global Running Day, a 110 00:05:59,039 --> 00:06:01,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: big day in the world of running. It's a worldwide 111 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: celebration of running that encourages people of all ages and 112 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:08,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: abilities to get moving. And of course, we were big 113 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: into Global Running Day at New York Road Runners. There were 114 00:06:11,070 --> 00:06:13,319 Rob Simmelkjaer: live events all over the world. We had one in 115 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York as well, a kids race taking place out 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: at Randall's Island. And there's still time to participate in 117 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:24,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: our virtual race. We've got the NYRR Virtual Global Running 118 00:06:24,450 --> 00:06:28,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: Day 5K. It's open through June 9th, so you can 119 00:06:28,110 --> 00:06:32,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: sign up for that at New York Roadrunners website, nyrr. 120 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,149 Rob Simmelkjaer: org and then run it on the Strava app. You can find other 121 00:06:36,180 --> 00:06:41,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: virtual events at www. globalrunningday. org. Hey runners, be sure 122 00:06:41,790 --> 00:06:44,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: to sign up for the Peloton app. You can actually 123 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:48,389 Rob Simmelkjaer: try it 30 days for free. No equipment is needed, 124 00:06:48,389 --> 00:06:50,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: and you can use the app to track all of 125 00:06:50,460 --> 00:06:53,669 Rob Simmelkjaer: your movement in one place, from your outdoor running and 126 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:57,719 Rob Simmelkjaer: walking to your strength training, even your meditation, and you 127 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: can enhance your daily workout routine or training schedule with 128 00:07:01,020 --> 00:07:03,808 Rob Simmelkjaer: workouts that feel right for you. You can find the 129 00:07:03,809 --> 00:07:06,058 Rob Simmelkjaer: Peloton app in the Apple App Store as well as 130 00:07:06,059 --> 00:07:10,349 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Google Play Store. New paid memberships only, terms apply. 131 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:13,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: Peloton, the official digital fitness partner of New York Road 132 00:07:13,740 --> 00:07:17,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: Runners. Coming up later in the show, our friend Meb Keflezighi, 133 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: will be here to interview Gabrielle Yatauro. She's a New 134 00:07:20,849 --> 00:07:24,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: York Road Runners member and is also a very fast 135 00:07:24,210 --> 00:07:27,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: runner. She'll be joining the elite field as a local 136 00:07:27,210 --> 00:07:30,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: runner and she'll be joining Dakota Lindwurm and all the 137 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: other incredible pros we've got lined up at the starting 138 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: line of the Mastercard New York Mini 10K. Then a 139 00:07:35,790 --> 00:07:37,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: little later in the show, Meb will be back with 140 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:40,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: his Meb Minute. He'll be giving us some advice on 141 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:44,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: goal setting. We are thrilled to have an incredible guest 142 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,809 Rob Simmelkjaer: with us today. Dakota Lindwurm, who is quickly becoming the U. S. A. 143 00:07:48,809 --> 00:07:54,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: 's favorite marathon " underdog" from her beginnings as a, some 144 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:56,789 Rob Simmelkjaer: might say average high school runner and then a walk 145 00:07:56,790 --> 00:08:00,149 Rob Simmelkjaer: on at her division II college. Dakota has trained and 146 00:08:00,150 --> 00:08:04,439 Rob Simmelkjaer: willed herself to two victories at the Grandma's Marathon. Most 147 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: recently, she earned a spectacular third place finish at the U. 148 00:08:07,830 --> 00:08:13,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: S.A. Olympic Marathon trial, securing her place into the Olympics 149 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:17,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: in Paris 2024. She's known for not just her incredible 150 00:08:17,490 --> 00:08:21,389 Rob Simmelkjaer: skills as a runner, but her character smile while racing. 151 00:08:21,389 --> 00:08:24,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: And I can see that smile as we get set 152 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: to start this interview right here on Set the Pace. 153 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dakota, it is so great to have you with us 154 00:08:28,710 --> 00:08:30,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: here on the show. Thanks for joining us. 155 00:08:30,570 --> 00:08:32,848 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, thanks so much for having me. I'm really excited 156 00:08:32,849 --> 00:08:33,328 Dakota Lindwurm: to be a part of it. 157 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: It was so much fun to see you break through 158 00:08:37,740 --> 00:08:41,999 Rob Simmelkjaer: in Orlando. I was there and watching that race unfold 159 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: and of course we knew some of the names and 160 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: a lot of the names there. And I'm relatively new 161 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,999 Rob Simmelkjaer: to my role as CEO of New York Roadrunners and new 162 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: to the professional running world. So I would have to 163 00:08:54,450 --> 00:08:57,719 Rob Simmelkjaer: be perfectly honest, I did not know you as I 164 00:08:57,719 --> 00:09:01,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: watched you finish third that day in Orlando to make 165 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,619 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Olympic team. And so this is a chance for 166 00:09:04,619 --> 00:09:07,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: me and our listeners to get to know Dakota Lindwurm. And 167 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: I just want to start out with what I usually 168 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:12,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: ask people when I first meet them. Where are you from? 169 00:09:12,059 --> 00:09:12,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: Where'd you grow up? 170 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,799 Dakota Lindwurm: I grew up in Saint Francis, Minnesota, which is about 171 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:19,199 Dakota Lindwurm: an hour north of the city. It's a small town 172 00:09:19,199 --> 00:09:21,660 Dakota Lindwurm: of maybe 4 or 5, 000 people. 173 00:09:22,889 --> 00:09:28,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: And was running something that was a big part of your life as a kid or did it 174 00:09:28,830 --> 00:09:31,439 Rob Simmelkjaer: really just start in high school for you? How did 175 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: running become a part of your life? 176 00:09:34,049 --> 00:09:37,320 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, I started in high school my freshman year. Being 177 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,650 Dakota Lindwurm: from Minnesota, like a true Minnesotan, I played hockey for 178 00:09:40,650 --> 00:09:43,890 Dakota Lindwurm: most of my life. And then my freshman year, my 179 00:09:43,890 --> 00:09:47,370 Dakota Lindwurm: mom was just kind of like, " You know, you're so 180 00:09:47,370 --> 00:09:50,549 Dakota Lindwurm: invested in hockey and that's amazing, but you need to 181 00:09:50,549 --> 00:09:53,458 Dakota Lindwurm: broaden your horizons. Great athletes are typically great at a 182 00:09:53,458 --> 00:09:57,000 Dakota Lindwurm: lot of things, so let's get you in something else." 183 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,640 Dakota Lindwurm: And I threw a fit. I wasn't super happy about 184 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,830 Dakota Lindwurm: joining a different sport because I was so obsessed with 185 00:10:01,830 --> 00:10:05,370 Dakota Lindwurm: hockey, but I decided to go out for the track 186 00:10:05,370 --> 00:10:08,400 Dakota Lindwurm: team because I typically beat the boys in the mile 187 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,800 Dakota Lindwurm: in gym class. So I was like, " I must be 188 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,270 Dakota Lindwurm: pretty naturally talented at this." And it just turns out 189 00:10:15,270 --> 00:10:17,340 Dakota Lindwurm: the boys in my gym class didn't try very hard 190 00:10:17,340 --> 00:10:20,880 Dakota Lindwurm: because when I got on the track team, I was 191 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,289 Dakota Lindwurm: directly on the JV team and took last a lot my freshman 192 00:10:25,290 --> 00:10:28,769 Dakota Lindwurm: year. But because I was so bad at it and 193 00:10:28,770 --> 00:10:31,290 Dakota Lindwurm: I'm generally a pretty athletic person who picks something up 194 00:10:31,290 --> 00:10:34,650 Dakota Lindwurm: pretty quickly, I think because I was so bad at it, it kind of fueled 195 00:10:34,650 --> 00:10:37,530 Dakota Lindwurm: a fire for me. I was like, " I'm going to 196 00:10:37,530 --> 00:10:41,699 Dakota Lindwurm: work really hard to be better." And I think it 197 00:10:41,699 --> 00:10:44,699 Dakota Lindwurm: was a blessing that I wasn't a natural at running. 198 00:10:45,689 --> 00:10:49,139 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, I could see that. And I can also see how hockey 199 00:10:49,139 --> 00:10:52,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: would be a tough thing to give up. In Minnesota, 200 00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:56,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: they play both indoor arena hockey and then I know 201 00:10:56,429 --> 00:10:59,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: pond hockey is huge in Minnesota. Were you a pond 202 00:10:59,910 --> 00:11:01,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: hockey player as well? 203 00:11:01,980 --> 00:11:04,020 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah. I mean, I'd get done with practice and then 204 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:07,289 Dakota Lindwurm: we'd go play. We, I guess call it shinny hockey 205 00:11:07,289 --> 00:11:10,530 Dakota Lindwurm: where you're not in full gear, you just go play hockey at 206 00:11:10,530 --> 00:11:14,160 Dakota Lindwurm: whatever rink is open at night basically. I was pretty 207 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,950 Dakota Lindwurm: obsessed with it and I played all summer long and 208 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:19,349 Dakota Lindwurm: any chance I had to get on the ice, I 209 00:11:19,349 --> 00:11:20,700 Dakota Lindwurm: was doing it for sure. 210 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: Was there anything from the hockey that you found translated 211 00:11:24,090 --> 00:11:26,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: well to running? I mean, there is endurance, especially if 212 00:11:26,850 --> 00:11:28,949 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're on for a long shift or something in ice 213 00:11:28,950 --> 00:11:31,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: hockey, you've got to have some pretty good lung capacity. 214 00:11:31,950 --> 00:11:34,410 Dakota Lindwurm: Well, let me surprise you a little further. I was 215 00:11:34,410 --> 00:11:36,629 Dakota Lindwurm: a goalie, so I didn't do a lot of skating. 216 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:42,539 Dakota Lindwurm: And let me tell you what I tell everybody is I think the biggest 217 00:11:42,539 --> 00:11:45,300 Dakota Lindwurm: correlation between being an ice hockey goalie and a marathoner 218 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:47,968 Dakota Lindwurm: is you have to have a screw loose up here 219 00:11:48,059 --> 00:11:51,270 Dakota Lindwurm: to want to be hurt that way. So I do 220 00:11:51,270 --> 00:11:54,300 Dakota Lindwurm: think that they correlate in the way of I'm okay with 221 00:11:54,929 --> 00:11:55,350 Dakota Lindwurm: being in pain. 222 00:11:56,550 --> 00:12:00,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: That is 100% right. That is so funny. Yeah, the 223 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: least endurance related spot in a hockey rink and that 224 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:08,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: was you playing goalie. That's so funny. So as you 225 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:14,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: go through high school, Dakota, when did it occur to 226 00:12:14,370 --> 00:12:17,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: you, I guess that you might actually have something with 227 00:12:17,309 --> 00:12:19,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: this running? You mentioned beating some of the boys in 228 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: the mile, but then finishing last in the JV races. What 229 00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:25,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: was the progression and when did you start to realize, 230 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:28,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: okay, this is kind of something I'm good at and 231 00:12:28,260 --> 00:12:30,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: maybe longer distances being where you could shine? 232 00:12:32,159 --> 00:12:34,559 Dakota Lindwurm: I don't know if I ever really thought like, oh, 233 00:12:34,619 --> 00:12:38,220 Dakota Lindwurm: I'm pretty good at this in high school because I 234 00:12:38,220 --> 00:12:41,098 Dakota Lindwurm: never qualified for state meets, I never won any conference 235 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:45,420 Dakota Lindwurm: titles. But what I did really love about it compared to 236 00:12:45,420 --> 00:12:48,540 Dakota Lindwurm: hockey was that I was working really hard in the 237 00:12:48,540 --> 00:12:51,509 Dakota Lindwurm: off season. I was working really hard on the weekends 238 00:12:51,599 --> 00:12:55,380 Dakota Lindwurm: and I was seeing the results on the track. I 239 00:12:55,380 --> 00:12:57,990 Dakota Lindwurm: was getting better every year. I never really was great 240 00:12:58,020 --> 00:13:00,990 Dakota Lindwurm: in high school, but I was seeing the PRs pretty 241 00:13:00,990 --> 00:13:04,349 Dakota Lindwurm: frequently. Where in hockey, I was continuing to work really 242 00:13:04,349 --> 00:13:07,559 Dakota Lindwurm: hard, but my position, I could only do so much. 243 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,389 Dakota Lindwurm: I could stop all the goals, but I couldn't score 244 00:13:09,389 --> 00:13:11,819 Dakota Lindwurm: any and I felt like I wasn't seeing those direct 245 00:13:11,820 --> 00:13:15,630 Dakota Lindwurm: results. So somewhere around my junior year, it kind of 246 00:13:15,630 --> 00:13:20,040 Dakota Lindwurm: sunk in that instead of me being like, okay, I'm 247 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,670 Dakota Lindwurm: training during the cross country and track, I'm just training 248 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:27,088 Dakota Lindwurm: for hockey, it became like I'm just waiting for hockey 249 00:13:27,089 --> 00:13:28,979 Dakota Lindwurm: to get done so I can get back on the 250 00:13:28,980 --> 00:13:31,800 Dakota Lindwurm: track and get back in cross country. And that flip 251 00:13:31,860 --> 00:13:33,900 Dakota Lindwurm: kind of switched for me around my junior year and 252 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:37,559 Dakota Lindwurm: that's when I started to think, well after college or 253 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,078 Dakota Lindwurm: I mean, after high school I'd really like to continue 254 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,509 Dakota Lindwurm: to run if I could and that's when I started 255 00:13:42,509 --> 00:13:44,400 Dakota Lindwurm: reaching out to my college coach. 256 00:13:45,089 --> 00:13:50,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah. And you were not someone who was on a lot of recruiting lists, it sounds like. 257 00:13:50,610 --> 00:13:54,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: Nobody was calling your parents or coming to your meets 258 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:56,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: to try to recruit you. You were making the calls, 259 00:13:57,030 --> 00:13:58,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: which by the way I can relate to. Did the 260 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: same when I was coming out of high school for 261 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,468 Rob Simmelkjaer: playing baseball. How did it play out that you ended 262 00:14:04,469 --> 00:14:07,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: up getting onto a college team? You went to Northern 263 00:14:07,109 --> 00:14:10,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: State University, and what was that process like of being 264 00:14:10,950 --> 00:14:12,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: able to walk on and run there? 265 00:14:13,140 --> 00:14:17,218 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, I didn't get a single recruiting letter, not a 266 00:14:17,219 --> 00:14:18,959 Dakota Lindwurm: single person reached out to me to be a runner, 267 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,799 Dakota Lindwurm: and that's perfectly fine. I had kind decided on the college 268 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:25,080 Dakota Lindwurm: that I wanted to go to was Northern State. The 269 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,740 Dakota Lindwurm: campus was pretty small. It's in a small town and 270 00:14:28,740 --> 00:14:31,830 Dakota Lindwurm: it had my major and it was very affordable, so 271 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,259 Dakota Lindwurm: I knew that's where I wanted to go. And then 272 00:14:34,290 --> 00:14:36,659 Dakota Lindwurm: they had a track team, so I just emailed a 273 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:40,379 Dakota Lindwurm: coach. I said, " Here are my times. I perfectly understand that 274 00:14:40,379 --> 00:14:43,770 Dakota Lindwurm: I am not somebody who you typically give a scholarship 275 00:14:43,770 --> 00:14:45,210 Dakota Lindwurm: to, but if you let me on your team, I'm 276 00:14:45,210 --> 00:14:47,760 Dakota Lindwurm: going to work really hard." And a day or two 277 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,860 Dakota Lindwurm: later, he called me and said, " You'd be a really 278 00:14:49,860 --> 00:14:53,220 Dakota Lindwurm: great walk on addition." And for me that was him 279 00:14:53,250 --> 00:14:56,070 Dakota Lindwurm: offering me a full ride scholarship. I was so thankful 280 00:14:56,070 --> 00:15:00,540 Dakota Lindwurm: for the opportunity that I really wanted to keep my 281 00:15:00,540 --> 00:15:02,490 Dakota Lindwurm: word and say, " I'm going to work as hard as 282 00:15:02,490 --> 00:15:06,000 Dakota Lindwurm: I can for you," which he probably wasn't expecting me 283 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,429 Dakota Lindwurm: to be eventually a five time national qualifier, two time 284 00:15:11,429 --> 00:15:14,759 Dakota Lindwurm: all American. But he definitely picked a good diamond in 285 00:15:14,759 --> 00:15:15,510 Dakota Lindwurm: the rough for sure. 286 00:15:16,530 --> 00:15:19,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: And it's an incredible thing when a coach is able to find 287 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:22,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: that, right, because they've all got limited scholarship slots available 288 00:15:22,950 --> 00:15:26,519 Rob Simmelkjaer: for their sport. And when someone with talent pops up out of 289 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: the blue and comes on as a walk- on, that's 290 00:15:29,730 --> 00:15:33,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: like gold for a college coach. What was the process 291 00:15:33,210 --> 00:15:37,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: once you got there like of improving and when did 292 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:40,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: you or your coach or someone say, " Wait a second, 293 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:43,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: we got something here? I think we got a steal." 294 00:15:45,090 --> 00:15:47,549 Dakota Lindwurm: Actually, it took me a year to get my stride. 295 00:15:47,549 --> 00:15:50,159 Dakota Lindwurm: I feel like, as a lot of people do, I had a little 296 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,630 Dakota Lindwurm: bit of a difficult time transitioning in college and I 297 00:15:54,630 --> 00:15:58,230 Dakota Lindwurm: had a teammate, her name was Sasha Hovind. She had 298 00:15:58,230 --> 00:16:01,050 Dakota Lindwurm: the exact same high school PRs as I did, 5: 35 299 00:16:01,050 --> 00:16:03,900 Dakota Lindwurm: in the mile 1157 in the two mile to the 300 00:16:04,170 --> 00:16:10,920 Dakota Lindwurm: second, the exact same PRs. And her sophomore year in 301 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,310 Dakota Lindwurm: cross country, she qualified for the national meet and I 302 00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:17,280 Dakota Lindwurm: was nowhere near it. And we drove down, we watched 303 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,180 Dakota Lindwurm: her compete, she became an All- American that first time. 304 00:16:21,690 --> 00:16:24,990 Dakota Lindwurm: And it was sitting there that sophomore year being like, " 305 00:16:25,049 --> 00:16:27,420 Dakota Lindwurm: She had the same exact PRs as me. All I 306 00:16:27,420 --> 00:16:29,850 Dakota Lindwurm: have to do is do what she does and I 307 00:16:29,850 --> 00:16:32,940 Dakota Lindwurm: can do that too." And that's when the flip really 308 00:16:32,940 --> 00:16:36,900 Dakota Lindwurm: switched for me. And I did whatever she did. If she 309 00:16:37,020 --> 00:16:38,760 Dakota Lindwurm: were on a workout hard, I run it just as 310 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,859 Dakota Lindwurm: hard. If she stayed after to do core, I did 311 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:44,700 Dakota Lindwurm: core. And that was where she really set the example 312 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:49,740 Dakota Lindwurm: for me for sure. And then that outdoor season, I 313 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:52,980 Dakota Lindwurm: qualified for the national meet as well. So that's, I'm 314 00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:54,990 Dakota Lindwurm: sure, when my coach was like, " Oh, all right, we got a 315 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Dakota Lindwurm: good one here." 316 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's amazing what someone setting in the example can do. 317 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: We think about having a pacer in a race. This 318 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:06,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: is almost like having a pacer in life. You see 319 00:17:06,869 --> 00:17:09,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: someone doing it and you say, " I want to do that. 320 00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:12,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: I just need to keep up with them." And it 321 00:17:12,420 --> 00:17:15,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: can be transformative to have essentially a role model. You're 322 00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:18,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: talking about a role model who is also a contemporary and 323 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:21,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: a teammate of yours that helped you figure out the 324 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: path to being what you could be. 325 00:17:23,969 --> 00:17:27,180 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, absolutely. I'm super thankful for her because if she 326 00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:29,910 Dakota Lindwurm: wasn't my teammate, if she wasn't there setting that example, 327 00:17:30,330 --> 00:17:31,980 Dakota Lindwurm: there's no way of knowing if I'd be where I 328 00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:34,950 Dakota Lindwurm: am today. So I'm really grateful for that and I've 329 00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:39,000 Dakota Lindwurm: always sought that rising tides, floats all boats and her 330 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,840 Dakota Lindwurm: having so much success just elevated my success for sure. 331 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: So what were your preferred distances, Dakota, in college, and 332 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:53,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: did you start to now really gravitate towards longer distances? 333 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,839 Rob Simmelkjaer: Where were you in terms of your distance endurance and 334 00:17:57,839 --> 00:17:59,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: where you were lengthwise? 335 00:18:00,148 --> 00:18:03,990 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, my college coach only let me run one 10K 336 00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:07,290 Dakota Lindwurm: my freshman year. He was pretty conservative in the idea 337 00:18:07,290 --> 00:18:09,480 Dakota Lindwurm: of doing too high a mileage and he wanted to 338 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,590 Dakota Lindwurm: make sure we had long successful, healthy careers. So I 339 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:16,229 Dakota Lindwurm: got to do one 10K that freshman year, and I 340 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,119 Dakota Lindwurm: immediately knew that the 10K was for me. I felt 341 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,658 Dakota Lindwurm: like when I would do 5Ks, I would give everything 342 00:18:24,660 --> 00:18:27,240 Dakota Lindwurm: I could in that 5K and then five minutes later, once 343 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,918 Dakota Lindwurm: the race was over, I'd be like, " Okay, let's do 344 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,790 Dakota Lindwurm: it again." I was recovering so quickly. So yeah, I 345 00:18:32,790 --> 00:18:36,780 Dakota Lindwurm: was a 5K, 10K girl, but definitely knew 10K was my strength 346 00:18:37,770 --> 00:18:40,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: And that was a signal for what would come later. 347 00:18:40,170 --> 00:18:45,359 Rob Simmelkjaer: Obviously, your body was telling you, you can go longer 348 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: here, this is good. We like to keep going. And 349 00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:52,199 Rob Simmelkjaer: so did that essentially turn you into a 10K runner 350 00:18:52,199 --> 00:18:53,728 Rob Simmelkjaer: as you went further into your college career? 351 00:18:54,388 --> 00:18:57,658 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, absolutely. And then even as I got farther and 352 00:18:57,660 --> 00:19:00,330 Dakota Lindwurm: I was getting more successful, I almost never just did 353 00:19:00,570 --> 00:19:04,050 Dakota Lindwurm: one event. It was always like the 5K, 10K double, and 354 00:19:04,050 --> 00:19:07,619 Dakota Lindwurm: I was never really banged up or beat up or 355 00:19:07,619 --> 00:19:11,549 Dakota Lindwurm: tired after, which was also kind of like now looking 356 00:19:11,549 --> 00:19:13,949 Dakota Lindwurm: back, I can see that was my body telling me 357 00:19:14,099 --> 00:19:17,460 Dakota Lindwurm: you're really a marathoner. You don't really get exhausted from 358 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:18,448 Dakota Lindwurm: these short races. 359 00:19:20,250 --> 00:19:22,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: Having your body tell you is one thing and then 360 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: picking up on those signals and listening to it is 361 00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:28,438 Rob Simmelkjaer: something else, right? Because a lot of people, maybe they 362 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,629 Rob Simmelkjaer: have in their mind, " No, no, no, I'm not a 363 00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:34,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: marathon or I'm not a long distance runner. I'm a 5K person." 364 00:19:35,220 --> 00:19:38,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: They kind of resist and fight what their body's telling 365 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:41,158 Rob Simmelkjaer: them, but it sounds like you were ready to listen 366 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,658 Rob Simmelkjaer: and to go that longer distance. 367 00:19:43,648 --> 00:19:46,800 Dakota Lindwurm: And a little funny story people don't always know is 368 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:51,180 Dakota Lindwurm: my college coach always encouraged us to run summer races, jump 369 00:19:51,180 --> 00:19:55,350 Dakota Lindwurm: into 5K or 10K, stay motivated for cross country. And after my 370 00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:59,309 Dakota Lindwurm: freshman year going into my sophomore year, I convinced him 371 00:19:59,309 --> 00:20:02,759 Dakota Lindwurm: to let me run a trail marathon. And so every 372 00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:06,119 Dakota Lindwurm: summer in college I ran this trail marathon and won 373 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,720 Dakota Lindwurm: it. So I already kind of knew that my body 374 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,908 Dakota Lindwurm: was built for the long haul for sure. 375 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wow, that's pretty unusual for someone at that collegiate level 376 00:20:17,070 --> 00:20:21,148 Rob Simmelkjaer: to already be sampling the marathon distance. So you really 377 00:20:21,150 --> 00:20:24,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: had a sense at a very young age. And so 378 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: as you get out of college, Dakota, the marathon's already 379 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: in your mind at that point, right? So what is 380 00:20:29,730 --> 00:20:33,388 Rob Simmelkjaer: your thinking? As you're getting out of school, is a 381 00:20:33,388 --> 00:20:37,259 Rob Simmelkjaer: professional running career fully in your sights at that point 382 00:20:37,259 --> 00:20:38,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: and knowing that's what you wanted to do? 383 00:20:39,898 --> 00:20:45,240 Dakota Lindwurm: Not at all. I knew that I was going to keep running. Running is my everything. 384 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,490 Dakota Lindwurm: It's what makes me feel most like myself, and I 385 00:20:47,490 --> 00:20:49,890 Dakota Lindwurm: knew I was never going to not be a runner, 386 00:20:49,890 --> 00:20:53,700 Dakota Lindwurm: and I thought, " You know, I'll train for local 5K, 10Ks 387 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:56,609 Dakota Lindwurm: marathons, maybe I'll qualify for Boston one day." I didn't 388 00:20:56,609 --> 00:21:00,780 Dakota Lindwurm: really have any sense of what professional running was. I 389 00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:05,310 Dakota Lindwurm: literally didn't understand what it meant. And I was helping 390 00:21:05,310 --> 00:21:09,388 Dakota Lindwurm: my coach give a perspective athlete a tour of the 391 00:21:09,388 --> 00:21:12,990 Dakota Lindwurm: school, and his parents said to me, " What are you planning 392 00:21:12,990 --> 00:21:17,158 Dakota Lindwurm: on doing? Surely you're not done with running." And I 393 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,220 Dakota Lindwurm: gave some answer like, " Yeah, I'll always keep running. I 394 00:21:20,220 --> 00:21:23,430 Dakota Lindwurm: want to train for marathons." And my college coach just 395 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:24,900 Dakota Lindwurm: looked me in the eyes and he goes, " You could 396 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:29,129 Dakota Lindwurm: qualify for the Olympic trials in the marathon." And I 397 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,799 Dakota Lindwurm: looked and I said, " What is that?" I was like, " What 398 00:21:31,799 --> 00:21:33,929 Dakota Lindwurm: does that mean?" And the next day, I walked into 399 00:21:33,929 --> 00:21:36,928 Dakota Lindwurm: his office with a notepad and a pen and I said, " 400 00:21:37,290 --> 00:21:39,510 Dakota Lindwurm: I need to know everything about what you just said. 401 00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:42,928 Dakota Lindwurm: How do I qualify? What pace is that? How do 402 00:21:42,930 --> 00:21:44,879 Dakota Lindwurm: I get a coach? How do I enter the race? 403 00:21:46,109 --> 00:21:50,520 Dakota Lindwurm: I needed to know everything about it." And he certainly 404 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,580 Dakota Lindwurm: wasn't saying, " Hey Dakota, I don't think you should put 405 00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:59,460 Dakota Lindwurm: everything aside and pursue professional running." Because I was promising 406 00:21:59,460 --> 00:22:02,908 Dakota Lindwurm: at the marathon, but I wasn't a Sara Hall in 407 00:22:02,910 --> 00:22:06,748 Dakota Lindwurm: college. I wasn't an Emma Coburn or a Kara Goucher. I wasn't somebody 408 00:22:06,750 --> 00:22:12,840 Dakota Lindwurm: who was guaranteed going to be a really successful professional 409 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,148 Dakota Lindwurm: runner or anything. So he was just saying, " Hey, you 410 00:22:15,150 --> 00:22:18,030 Dakota Lindwurm: should try to qualify for the race." Not, " Hey, maybe 411 00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:24,000 Dakota Lindwurm: qualify for the Olympics someday." And I was just always 412 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,158 Dakota Lindwurm: somebody who's all in on something so I was like, " If I'm 413 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,770 Dakota Lindwurm: going to try to qualify for the Olympic trials, I'm 414 00:22:28,770 --> 00:22:30,239 Dakota Lindwurm: going to try to qualify for the team." 415 00:22:31,859 --> 00:22:36,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: And so you qualified for the Olympic trials in 2020 416 00:22:36,930 --> 00:22:42,148 Rob Simmelkjaer: and you finished 36th in that race. Super respectable, obviously 417 00:22:42,150 --> 00:22:45,779 Rob Simmelkjaer: for someone who didn't even know what they were not 418 00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:49,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: long before that. So what was that experience like? What 419 00:22:49,770 --> 00:22:54,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: did you get from the experience of preparing and then 420 00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:57,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: running in that first trials race in 2020? 421 00:22:58,260 --> 00:23:02,519 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah. I think that was a perfect first Olympic trials 422 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,589 Dakota Lindwurm: for me because I had no expectations. If I would've 423 00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:06,388 Dakota Lindwurm: come in last, I think I'd have been just as 424 00:23:06,388 --> 00:23:09,000 Dakota Lindwurm: happy as coming in 36 or whatever. I had a 425 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,630 Dakota Lindwurm: pretty horrible race there. I can very vividly remember like 426 00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:15,658 Dakota Lindwurm: a lot of people did. The wind got pretty bad 427 00:23:15,660 --> 00:23:19,230 Dakota Lindwurm: and the hills were pretty horrible. But I just enjoyed 428 00:23:19,230 --> 00:23:21,660 Dakota Lindwurm: it and I learned from it and I watched what the 429 00:23:21,660 --> 00:23:24,570 Dakota Lindwurm: front pack was doing for as long as I could 430 00:23:24,570 --> 00:23:26,550 Dakota Lindwurm: until I couldn't keep up with them any more kind 431 00:23:26,550 --> 00:23:28,470 Dakota Lindwurm: of thing. I just felt like I got to go 432 00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:32,280 Dakota Lindwurm: have a really good experience there. Which then going into 433 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,940 Dakota Lindwurm: 2024, I felt like, oh, this is something I've done 434 00:23:35,940 --> 00:23:38,190 Dakota Lindwurm: before and it's no big deal, which I think kept 435 00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:40,920 Dakota Lindwurm: me kind of calm going into 2024. 436 00:23:41,850 --> 00:23:45,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: And as you come out of 2020 now, you're now 437 00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:48,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: a runner, right? I mean, you're thinking about running for 438 00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:52,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: real and of course your greatest successes at the marathon 439 00:23:52,410 --> 00:23:57,269 Rob Simmelkjaer: distance before you're making the Olympics were Grandma's, winning back 440 00:23:57,270 --> 00:24:01,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: to back Grandma's, which is an iconic race. How did 441 00:24:01,380 --> 00:24:05,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: that come about? What was your thinking going into those 442 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:08,129 Rob Simmelkjaer: races and how did that really change your perspective in 443 00:24:08,130 --> 00:24:09,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: terms of what you were capable of? 444 00:24:10,590 --> 00:24:13,740 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, I think going into Grandma's has always been a really 445 00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:16,619 Dakota Lindwurm: great place for me because it's, I don't know, three 446 00:24:16,619 --> 00:24:19,379 Dakota Lindwurm: hours north of where I live. It's a car ride 447 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:23,700 Dakota Lindwurm: up there. It feels like home. I grew up going 448 00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:26,490 Dakota Lindwurm: up to Duluth all the time with my family. And 449 00:24:26,490 --> 00:24:29,218 Dakota Lindwurm: so it's just really low pressure in comparison to going to 450 00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:33,059 Dakota Lindwurm: a Boston where it feels really high pressure and they 451 00:24:33,059 --> 00:24:37,438 Dakota Lindwurm: don't typically bring in a super strong field. So it 452 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,390 Dakota Lindwurm: feels like I can be a top dog there and 453 00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:43,710 Dakota Lindwurm: it's helped me just build a lot of confidence. And 454 00:24:43,710 --> 00:24:45,510 Dakota Lindwurm: I feel like every time I go to Grandma's, my 455 00:24:45,869 --> 00:24:48,659 Dakota Lindwurm: career just elevates one more step, one more step. So 456 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:53,428 Dakota Lindwurm: going there that first time in 2021 and winning, I 457 00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:56,850 Dakota Lindwurm: was kind of like, " Oh, this is a big deal." 458 00:24:56,850 --> 00:24:59,280 Dakota Lindwurm: And it ended up helping me get my Puma sponsorship. 459 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Dakota Lindwurm: And then I went back the next year and ran 460 00:25:01,350 --> 00:25:05,218 Dakota Lindwurm: 225, which was a really great time at that point 461 00:25:05,219 --> 00:25:09,089 Dakota Lindwurm: for me. I felt like that really put me on 462 00:25:09,089 --> 00:25:10,019 Dakota Lindwurm: the map over and over. 463 00:25:11,579 --> 00:25:17,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: And it was around that time, Dakota, 2020, '21 that you lost your 464 00:25:17,130 --> 00:25:22,438 Rob Simmelkjaer: mom. And you talked earlier about your mom being the 465 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: person who came to you and said, " Hey, why don't 466 00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:29,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: you take those skates off for a little while and 467 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: put on some running shoes and give this a go?" 468 00:25:33,150 --> 00:25:37,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: What was it like for you going through that period 469 00:25:37,050 --> 00:25:41,188 Rob Simmelkjaer: where your running is kind of taking off, right? You're exploding, 470 00:25:41,490 --> 00:25:45,418 Rob Simmelkjaer: you have great performances around the same time that you're 471 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:48,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: losing the person who got you into this sport in 472 00:25:48,990 --> 00:25:49,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: the first place. 473 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:54,660 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah. I love to tell this story of in 2019 474 00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:56,789 Dakota Lindwurm: I ran Grandma's and it's where I qualified for the 475 00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:59,580 Dakota Lindwurm: 2020 trials. My mom was sick for a lot of 476 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:03,989 Dakota Lindwurm: my life and she had autoimmune diseases where every day 477 00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:06,869 Dakota Lindwurm: was really unpredictable, so you never knew how she was 478 00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:09,658 Dakota Lindwurm: going to wake up feeling. And more often than not, 479 00:26:09,660 --> 00:26:12,450 Dakota Lindwurm: she woke up feeling pretty bad where she couldn't maybe 480 00:26:12,450 --> 00:26:15,270 Dakota Lindwurm: leave the house or even leave her bed. So going 481 00:26:15,270 --> 00:26:19,799 Dakota Lindwurm: into that Grandma's in 2019, my expectations were low of 482 00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:23,730 Dakota Lindwurm: her coming up to watch because it was unlikely. And 483 00:26:23,730 --> 00:26:27,480 Dakota Lindwurm: I finished, I qualified for the trials and I was 484 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,850 Dakota Lindwurm: so, so surprised across the line and then looked to 485 00:26:29,850 --> 00:26:31,830 Dakota Lindwurm: my left, and she was right there at the finish 486 00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:34,918 Dakota Lindwurm: line, and I can still remember our hug and hear 487 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,849 Dakota Lindwurm: her crying saying, " You did it." And then of course, 488 00:26:38,849 --> 00:26:42,809 Dakota Lindwurm: 2020, we lost her. And then 2021, went back up 489 00:26:42,809 --> 00:26:45,958 Dakota Lindwurm: there and won for the first time. I crossed the 490 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,170 Dakota Lindwurm: line and I looked over to my left, right exactly 491 00:26:49,170 --> 00:26:53,309 Dakota Lindwurm: where my mom stood and nobody had any idea about 492 00:26:53,309 --> 00:26:55,888 Dakota Lindwurm: this, but my grandpa was standing right there, and that 493 00:26:55,888 --> 00:26:57,780 Dakota Lindwurm: was the first race he had ever watched me run. 494 00:26:58,109 --> 00:27:00,509 Dakota Lindwurm: And I got to win and I got to go right 495 00:27:00,510 --> 00:27:04,800 Dakota Lindwurm: into his arms. And it was just really, really special 496 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,910 Dakota Lindwurm: to share that moment with him. It's really amazing. I 497 00:27:08,910 --> 00:27:11,819 Dakota Lindwurm: know that she would be so incredibly proud of me, but 498 00:27:11,820 --> 00:27:14,910 Dakota Lindwurm: I wish for one second that I could just tell her, " 499 00:27:14,910 --> 00:27:17,638 Dakota Lindwurm: Mom, you were right." I wish I could give her 500 00:27:17,638 --> 00:27:20,850 Dakota Lindwurm: that satisfaction of you were right all along by making 501 00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:21,750 Dakota Lindwurm: me join a new sport. 502 00:27:22,830 --> 00:27:27,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: She definitely was onto something. And it's great, I understand 503 00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:33,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: that feeling of wishing that a parent could see some 504 00:27:33,059 --> 00:27:35,908 Rob Simmelkjaer: of these moments that you're having. It is great that 505 00:27:35,910 --> 00:27:39,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: she was able to see you qualify for the trials 506 00:27:39,150 --> 00:27:42,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: because that was kind of a moment where clearly there 507 00:27:42,390 --> 00:27:45,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: was something going on here and you knew it and 508 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:48,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: she probably knew it. So at least there was that 509 00:27:48,270 --> 00:27:51,629 Rob Simmelkjaer: opportunity to have that moment. And I'm sure that moment 510 00:27:51,630 --> 00:27:54,208 Rob Simmelkjaer: is when you think about a lot during races, at 511 00:27:54,209 --> 00:27:57,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: the end of races. It must be a huge motivator 512 00:27:57,060 --> 00:27:57,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: for you. 513 00:27:58,050 --> 00:28:01,530 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, absolutely. And she didn't really know much about running 514 00:28:01,530 --> 00:28:04,920 Dakota Lindwurm: or maybe if anything about running, so she was always 515 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,369 Dakota Lindwurm: just proud when I would finish. I mean, she'd be 516 00:28:08,369 --> 00:28:10,740 Dakota Lindwurm: super proud that I made an Olympic team, but she'd 517 00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:13,889 Dakota Lindwurm: be just as proud if I would have taken 70th at the 518 00:28:13,890 --> 00:28:18,420 Dakota Lindwurm: Olympic trials. So I can't wait to celebrate with her 519 00:28:18,420 --> 00:28:21,059 Dakota Lindwurm: someday in heaven, but for now I get to just 520 00:28:21,059 --> 00:28:22,410 Dakota Lindwurm: imagine what she's doing up there. 521 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Absolutely. Amen to that. So all right, let's talk about 522 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,129 Rob Simmelkjaer: what happened this year. So you are getting ready for 523 00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:36,119 Rob Simmelkjaer: your second Olympic trials and you and your coach, Chris 524 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: Lundstrom, decide to increase your weekly mileage to 130 miles 525 00:28:41,969 --> 00:28:45,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: a week, which is some impressive mileage. Can you talk 526 00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:49,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: about training for trials this year, what you did differently 527 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: and how that mileage really ended up being a key 528 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: to your success? 529 00:28:54,750 --> 00:28:58,139 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, it's not that crazy that I bumped up to 130. 530 00:28:58,139 --> 00:29:02,609 Dakota Lindwurm: I did 120 pretty frequently, and right before I left 531 00:29:02,610 --> 00:29:05,639 Dakota Lindwurm: for Orlando, which I went down the day after Thanksgiving 532 00:29:05,639 --> 00:29:09,210 Dakota Lindwurm: to train because Minnesota winter is so unpredictable. I wanted 533 00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:11,850 Dakota Lindwurm: to be in good weather, similar weather to what I'd 534 00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:15,120 Dakota Lindwurm: be racing in. And a few days before I left, 535 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Dakota Lindwurm: I said, "You know, I feel like I've been really comfortable at 536 00:29:17,910 --> 00:29:21,420 Dakota Lindwurm: 120. Let's bump up to 130 and see what happens." 537 00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:24,119 Dakota Lindwurm: We kind of have nothing to lose. Either I have a really 538 00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:26,310 Dakota Lindwurm: great race and I make the team or I don't. Like 539 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,320 Dakota Lindwurm: it's not a big deal if we give it a 540 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,040 Dakota Lindwurm: shot and it doesn't work kind of thing. Especially because 541 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,469 Dakota Lindwurm: I didn't feel like I was currently in the fitness 542 00:29:37,469 --> 00:29:39,179 Dakota Lindwurm: or I had been in the fitness it would take 543 00:29:39,179 --> 00:29:40,949 Dakota Lindwurm: to make the team. I felt like I needed to 544 00:29:40,949 --> 00:29:44,310 Dakota Lindwurm: do a little bit more. And I think just bumping 545 00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:47,730 Dakota Lindwurm: up for some reason just helped me click all across 546 00:29:47,730 --> 00:29:50,280 Dakota Lindwurm: the board. I felt like I was able to still 547 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,219 Dakota Lindwurm: do my workouts really, really well. I never looked back 548 00:29:53,219 --> 00:29:54,990 Dakota Lindwurm: at any of the workouts I did in my build 549 00:29:54,990 --> 00:29:57,389 Dakota Lindwurm: to the Olympic trials and thought, " Oh, I wish that 550 00:29:57,389 --> 00:30:01,650 Dakota Lindwurm: one had gotten better." Every single one was pretty flawless 551 00:30:02,850 --> 00:30:06,570 Dakota Lindwurm: and I think it had to do with just having the confidence of the 552 00:30:06,570 --> 00:30:09,660 Dakota Lindwurm: mileage and just getting a little bit extra fit from 553 00:30:09,660 --> 00:30:11,639 Dakota Lindwurm: having that bump in mileage for sure. 554 00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:15,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: So when you stepped to the starting line in Orlando, 555 00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:18,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: it sounds like it was a very different mindset than the one you had 556 00:30:18,719 --> 00:30:22,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: four years prior where now you're not just happy to 557 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: be there, you're there to see what you can do. 558 00:30:24,750 --> 00:30:27,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: And as you looked at the other women at that 559 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:30,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: starting line, the Emily Sissons of the world, what was 560 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:34,049 Rob Simmelkjaer: your strategy? How did you want the race to out and 561 00:30:34,049 --> 00:30:36,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: then how did it ultimately out for you? 562 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,670 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, I had a call with a coach before, the 563 00:30:41,730 --> 00:30:44,940 Dakota Lindwurm: Tuesday before and we kind of went through a race 564 00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:48,870 Dakota Lindwurm: plan. The plan was to be unseen and unheard for 565 00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:50,999 Dakota Lindwurm: as long as possible. I didn't want anybody to know 566 00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:55,049 Dakota Lindwurm: that I was even there. I am somebody who has 567 00:30:55,049 --> 00:31:00,150 Dakota Lindwurm: taken the lead in races before early, and I didn't 568 00:31:00,150 --> 00:31:01,710 Dakota Lindwurm: want to do that. I wanted to waste as little 569 00:31:01,710 --> 00:31:06,690 Dakota Lindwurm: energy as possible. And I told Lando that I was 570 00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:08,909 Dakota Lindwurm: just going to follow any move anybody made a day and 571 00:31:09,059 --> 00:31:12,029 Dakota Lindwurm: just hope that I'm in the final three in the 572 00:31:12,029 --> 00:31:17,640 Dakota Lindwurm: last bit. And his incredible advice and wisdom was that's 573 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,260 Dakota Lindwurm: fine if the moves seem legit, go with them. But 574 00:31:22,260 --> 00:31:26,280 Dakota Lindwurm: know that around mile 18 to 20, people are going to start 575 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,180 Dakota Lindwurm: making moves that are too big for their britches and 576 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:33,510 Dakota Lindwurm: be aware of those moves and say, " Hey, I'll make 577 00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:36,150 Dakota Lindwurm: it up slowly rather than try to throw down big 578 00:31:36,150 --> 00:31:41,039 Dakota Lindwurm: surges." And he was exactly right. I stayed pretty quiet 579 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,748 Dakota Lindwurm: for most of the race. I did take the lead 580 00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:45,809 Dakota Lindwurm: for a mile or two about halfway through, and I 581 00:31:45,809 --> 00:31:48,780 Dakota Lindwurm: saw my family and got excited, but I worked my 582 00:31:48,809 --> 00:31:53,910 Dakota Lindwurm: way back. And then around 18 or 20, Fiona made 583 00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:57,900 Dakota Lindwurm: that really big press. Emily went with her, and then 584 00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:00,660 Dakota Lindwurm: another group of women, it was like Sara Hall, Betsy 585 00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:05,339 Dakota Lindwurm: Saina, and a few other women made a move to 586 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:08,310 Dakota Lindwurm: go with, but I thought to myself, I'm like, " Not 587 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:11,070 Dakota Lindwurm: all those women can hold that pace." And that's where 588 00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:13,590 Dakota Lindwurm: Lando's really great advice came in and I said, " Okay, 589 00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:16,050 Dakota Lindwurm: well I'm going to let them take that pace and then I'm just 590 00:32:16,050 --> 00:32:19,860 Dakota Lindwurm: going to slowly tip away at it." And then somewhere 591 00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:23,219 Dakota Lindwurm: around, I don't know, 22- ish, I caught back up 592 00:32:23,219 --> 00:32:26,910 Dakota Lindwurm: to Sara and Betsy. Emily and Fiona were gone at 593 00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:30,030 Dakota Lindwurm: that point and I was like, " I can still make 594 00:32:30,030 --> 00:32:32,640 Dakota Lindwurm: this team. I can be the third place." And I 595 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,899 Dakota Lindwurm: passed Sara, I passed Betsy. Betsy hung on with me 596 00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:40,649 Dakota Lindwurm: for a second. I had Carolyn Rotich on shoulder, but 597 00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:45,240 Dakota Lindwurm: then around 23 or 24, I started to hear things like, " Five 598 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,590 Dakota Lindwurm: seconds back, 10 seconds back." That was the first time 599 00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:51,990 Dakota Lindwurm: that I was like, " Oh my gosh, I'm on this 600 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:54,780 Dakota Lindwurm: team if I can just finish this race." Of course, 601 00:32:54,780 --> 00:32:57,299 Dakota Lindwurm: I was constantly like, you can't think about the finish 602 00:32:57,299 --> 00:33:01,470 Dakota Lindwurm: line until you're there. But yeah, I just felt like 603 00:33:01,470 --> 00:33:03,630 Dakota Lindwurm: I was kind of in a zombie walk to the finish 604 00:33:03,630 --> 00:33:06,990 Dakota Lindwurm: line, just like get there, don't have any thoughts. I'm 605 00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:10,920 Dakota Lindwurm: typically so smiley and so engaging with the crowd, but 606 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,569 Dakota Lindwurm: I was really just laser focused being like if you 607 00:33:15,570 --> 00:33:18,359 Dakota Lindwurm: cannot celebrate until you can touch the finish line, and 608 00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:21,029 Dakota Lindwurm: that's exactly what happened, you seem to be super serious. 609 00:33:21,449 --> 00:33:24,299 Dakota Lindwurm: And then once I'm four steps away, I let it 610 00:33:24,299 --> 00:33:24,809 Dakota Lindwurm: all out. 611 00:33:26,370 --> 00:33:31,019 Rob Simmelkjaer: What was that moment for you? What was going through your mind as 612 00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:33,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: you crossed that finish line? What's the first thing you 613 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: thought about? 614 00:33:35,699 --> 00:33:38,130 Dakota Lindwurm: I think when you see me finish, I literally put 615 00:33:38,130 --> 00:33:40,830 Dakota Lindwurm: my hands on my head and I go, " What?" I knew 616 00:33:40,830 --> 00:33:42,930 Dakota Lindwurm: it was going to happen, but for it to come 617 00:33:42,930 --> 00:33:47,160 Dakota Lindwurm: to fruition, for you to have all your hard work paid off 618 00:33:47,730 --> 00:33:54,000 Dakota Lindwurm: in one moment. Only three people make the Olympic team 619 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,910 Dakota Lindwurm: every four years, you know how small of a chance 620 00:33:56,910 --> 00:33:58,740 Dakota Lindwurm: you have of making that team and for it to 621 00:33:58,740 --> 00:34:01,170 Dakota Lindwurm: come true is, I think I've been looking for the 622 00:34:01,170 --> 00:34:03,630 Dakota Lindwurm: right word to describe it since that day and I 623 00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:04,890 Dakota Lindwurm: don't know that it exists. 624 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: What's the best call or text that you've gotten or 625 00:34:10,859 --> 00:34:14,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: that you got right after that race reacting to you making 626 00:34:14,730 --> 00:34:15,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Olympics? 627 00:34:16,980 --> 00:34:21,179 Dakota Lindwurm: I thought it was pretty cool. I got a message 628 00:34:21,179 --> 00:34:24,660 Dakota Lindwurm: from our mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey. He was actually 629 00:34:24,660 --> 00:34:30,809 Dakota Lindwurm: a former runner and he congratulated me and he actually asked 630 00:34:30,809 --> 00:34:32,219 Dakota Lindwurm: me to go for a run with him. So I 631 00:34:32,219 --> 00:34:35,310 Dakota Lindwurm: thought it was kind of cool because he's famous here 632 00:34:35,310 --> 00:34:37,890 Dakota Lindwurm: in Minneapolis, so I thought that was pretty cool. 633 00:34:39,059 --> 00:34:42,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. Well, you're going to be pretty famous 634 00:34:42,030 --> 00:34:44,099 Rob Simmelkjaer: everywhere and you're going to be famous here in New 635 00:34:44,099 --> 00:34:48,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: York. Talk about deciding to come to join us here in New 636 00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:51,569 Rob Simmelkjaer: York and what you're hoping to get from the experience. 637 00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:55,980 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, this was a perfect opportunity for me to get 638 00:34:55,980 --> 00:34:59,759 Dakota Lindwurm: to the Mini. I've never been because Grandma's is typically 639 00:34:59,759 --> 00:35:02,429 Dakota Lindwurm: two weeks later and I'm pretty committed to being a 640 00:35:02,429 --> 00:35:05,429 Dakota Lindwurm: part of that weekend at this point, and you can't 641 00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:10,260 Dakota Lindwurm: really race a 10K two weeks before a marathon. So as soon 642 00:35:10,260 --> 00:35:13,140 Dakota Lindwurm: as somebody brought it up, I was like, " Yes, I'm 643 00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:16,920 Dakota Lindwurm: doing the Mini this year because everybody talks about how 644 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,679 Dakota Lindwurm: well it's put on." It's a women's only, just like 645 00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:24,089 Dakota Lindwurm: gal pal kind of weekend. And gosh, the New York 646 00:35:24,209 --> 00:35:27,840 Dakota Lindwurm: Road Runners, I always say they have the hardest darn 647 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:33,150 Dakota Lindwurm: courses and they are so challenging, but everybody loves to 648 00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:36,449 Dakota Lindwurm: go to them because they put on the best races, 649 00:35:36,450 --> 00:35:41,098 Dakota Lindwurm: they treat us so well and they bring together world- 650 00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,370 Dakota Lindwurm: class fields every time. It's like every year we're like, " This 651 00:35:44,370 --> 00:35:46,650 Dakota Lindwurm: is the best field ever." And then next year it's going 652 00:35:46,650 --> 00:35:52,170 Dakota Lindwurm: to be like, " This is the best field ever." You guys just are constantly raising the bar for sure. 653 00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:57,268 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, Sam Grotewold, who is our director of pro athletes 654 00:35:57,750 --> 00:36:00,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: just does such a great job putting those fields together. 655 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: We actually interviewed him last week on Set the Pace, 656 00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:05,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: so you can go back and listen to that if 657 00:36:05,370 --> 00:36:08,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're interested in how he does it. But what's it 658 00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:11,009 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to be like lining up against so many of 659 00:36:11,010 --> 00:36:14,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: these incredible runners, including your teammates going to Paris? We 660 00:36:14,610 --> 00:36:18,539 Rob Simmelkjaer: know it's obviously the marathon and Paris is your focus 661 00:36:18,539 --> 00:36:21,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: now we get it, but what do you hope to 662 00:36:21,029 --> 00:36:23,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: get even just out of the race this weekend? 663 00:36:24,930 --> 00:36:30,179 Dakota Lindwurm: I race 10Ks so infrequently. I quite literally don't even 664 00:36:30,179 --> 00:36:33,540 Dakota Lindwurm: know what my PR is. I think I just looking to 665 00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:36,209 Dakota Lindwurm: snag a PR. I'm sure I'm in better shape than 666 00:36:36,209 --> 00:36:39,510 Dakota Lindwurm: the last time I ran a 10K. I would be 667 00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:42,600 Dakota Lindwurm: naive to say that I want to compete against some 668 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,979 Dakota Lindwurm: of these best 10K runners in the world and I 669 00:36:46,979 --> 00:36:48,569 Dakota Lindwurm: don't know want to go race it, have a good 670 00:36:48,570 --> 00:36:51,629 Dakota Lindwurm: time in New York and hopefully just get a good 671 00:36:51,630 --> 00:36:53,460 Dakota Lindwurm: key on where my fitness is right now. 672 00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:55,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: Have you spent much time in New York before? 673 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,460 Dakota Lindwurm: I've been there for the united half a couple of 674 00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:03,449 Dakota Lindwurm: times, and I was there for the marathon in 2021, 675 00:37:03,450 --> 00:37:06,629 Dakota Lindwurm: the really hot year. I mean, I think you can 676 00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:08,819 Dakota Lindwurm: always have more time in New York for sure. 677 00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:12,839 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, we are thrilled to have you. And you mentioned 678 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: earlier the smile that you often run with just not 679 00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:19,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: maybe right before the finish line of the Olympic trials. 680 00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:22,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: Where does that come from? I mean, I saw that 681 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: in some other video of you just always running with 682 00:37:25,860 --> 00:37:27,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: a smile. You interact with the crowd a lot. I'm 683 00:37:27,929 --> 00:37:30,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: sure you'll have so many people yelling your name in 684 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,149 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York. There's going to be a lot of smiling 685 00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:36,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: we hope in the Mini 10K, but how does that 686 00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:39,239 Rob Simmelkjaer: work for you? Does that help you run better to 687 00:37:39,690 --> 00:37:43,079 Rob Simmelkjaer: loosen you up and get you to a better head 688 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: space when you're running with a smile in your face? 689 00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:48,750 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah. It actually goes back to that first marathon in 690 00:37:48,989 --> 00:37:53,340 Dakota Lindwurm: Grandma's, my first road marathon. I was going through a 691 00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:56,550 Dakota Lindwurm: rough patch around mile 12, which is kind of too 692 00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:59,910 Dakota Lindwurm: early to go through a rough patch in a marathon. 693 00:37:59,910 --> 00:38:03,330 Dakota Lindwurm: And I happened to see my dad and him and 694 00:38:03,330 --> 00:38:05,789 Dakota Lindwurm: I have a fun relationship, so I kind of gave 695 00:38:05,789 --> 00:38:09,540 Dakota Lindwurm: him the strong arm, thumbs up, smile, and he immediately 696 00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:12,509 Dakota Lindwurm: pulled me out of that rough patch and I was like, " Oh, maybe 697 00:38:12,510 --> 00:38:16,950 Dakota Lindwurm: there's something to this." And I just started deciding to 698 00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:19,530 Dakota Lindwurm: have fun. In fact, it's kind of a silly way 699 00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:22,739 Dakota Lindwurm: to try to make a living if you don't love to do it, 700 00:38:23,340 --> 00:38:26,520 Dakota Lindwurm: and I do love it. So why in the world 701 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,250 Dakota Lindwurm: on race day do I decide to be super serious? 702 00:38:29,250 --> 00:38:33,449 Dakota Lindwurm: That would be, I don't know, it's just not me. So it's not authentic. 703 00:38:33,450 --> 00:38:36,090 Dakota Lindwurm: So I started to just smile at everybody and every 704 00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:39,000 Dakota Lindwurm: time I started feeling rough, I'd kind of give a 705 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,489 Dakota Lindwurm: wave like, " Let me hear you," or put my hand 706 00:38:41,489 --> 00:38:44,339 Dakota Lindwurm: in my ear to get them to cheer louder. And 707 00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:47,009 Dakota Lindwurm: it continued to pull me out of those rough patches. 708 00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:49,560 Dakota Lindwurm: And I was like, " There's something to this for sure." And if 709 00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:53,010 Dakota Lindwurm: I'm smiling, I'm hearing people say, " Oh, she looks so 710 00:38:53,010 --> 00:38:55,590 Dakota Lindwurm: great." And I'm like, " Yeah, I do look so great. 711 00:38:55,620 --> 00:38:59,459 Dakota Lindwurm: I feel awesome." And sure enough, I ended up looking 712 00:38:59,459 --> 00:39:02,040 Dakota Lindwurm: it up. And sometimes when you're smiling through something that 713 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,130 Dakota Lindwurm: is hard, it literally will trick your brain into saying like, " 714 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,610 Dakota Lindwurm: We are enjoying this." Even if it isn't super enjoyable 715 00:39:08,610 --> 00:39:12,450 Dakota Lindwurm: in that moment. So yeah, I don't know. It just kind of became my trademark 716 00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:12,930 Dakota Lindwurm: that way. 717 00:39:13,950 --> 00:39:16,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: I can totally relate to what you're saying. The power 718 00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:20,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: of smiles on other people, but then even on yourself. 719 00:39:20,850 --> 00:39:25,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: Just the motion of putting your face into a smile, 720 00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:27,989 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're right, it sends signals to your brain and to your body 721 00:39:27,989 --> 00:39:31,049 Rob Simmelkjaer: that everything's good here. I need to try this because 722 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,659 Rob Simmelkjaer: every time I ever see a photo of myself running 723 00:39:34,049 --> 00:39:37,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: a half- marathon or even a 10K, I just look like I'm 724 00:39:37,170 --> 00:39:40,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: in so much pain and I'm not even doing it 725 00:39:40,140 --> 00:39:42,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: for a living. I'm just out there doing it purely 726 00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:44,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: for fun. You're out there doing it as a professional 727 00:39:44,969 --> 00:39:46,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: athlete and you can smile. So if you can do 728 00:39:46,980 --> 00:39:48,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: it, I think I should be able to do it. 729 00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:52,469 Dakota Lindwurm: You know, I think that's another thing too I've thought of is if just 730 00:39:52,469 --> 00:39:55,410 Dakota Lindwurm: one person who's never run a race or a marathon 731 00:39:55,410 --> 00:39:59,280 Dakota Lindwurm: sees me and goes, " Wow, she's leading this race or 732 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,380 Dakota Lindwurm: is being really competitive and she's having a good time, 733 00:40:01,380 --> 00:40:05,010 Dakota Lindwurm: maybe I can go just compete and finish it and 734 00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:07,320 Dakota Lindwurm: have a good time." And I hope it inspires at 735 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,509 Dakota Lindwurm: least one person to at least sign up for a 736 00:40:09,509 --> 00:40:12,120 Dakota Lindwurm: race and say, " Maybe this is fun." 737 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. It's fantastic. Well, hopefully you'll have a 738 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: smile on your face in Paris as well. How is 739 00:40:19,290 --> 00:40:24,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: the preparation going? What's your mindset for that experience? How 740 00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:25,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: are you thinking of it? Are you thinking of it 741 00:40:25,830 --> 00:40:29,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: as, all right, I want to get here in terms 742 00:40:29,850 --> 00:40:32,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: of a time or a finish, or are you thinking 743 00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:35,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: of it more as a, wow, I'm going to the 744 00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:38,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: Olympics, I want to soak up every moment of that experience 745 00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:40,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: from the opening ceremony to the closing ceremony? 746 00:40:48,359 --> 00:40:50,850 Dakota Lindwurm: I'm going to try to do a mix. I definitely want to go and just say, this may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. Obviously, I'd like 747 00:40:50,850 --> 00:40:55,290 Dakota Lindwurm: to make it in 2028 or 2032, but that's never promised. So 748 00:40:55,290 --> 00:40:56,670 Dakota Lindwurm: I am going to go be a part of opening 749 00:40:56,670 --> 00:40:59,969 Dakota Lindwurm: ceremonies. I'm going to go try to watch other events. 750 00:41:00,389 --> 00:41:02,429 Dakota Lindwurm: I'm going to approach it as if it's any other 751 00:41:02,429 --> 00:41:05,129 Dakota Lindwurm: marathon because I don't want to put any extra pressure 752 00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:10,770 Dakota Lindwurm: on it just because it is the Olympics. So I'm 753 00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:13,710 Dakota Lindwurm: going to go have fun, but I think because the 754 00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:16,230 Dakota Lindwurm: course, I've been to Paris now, I got to see 755 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:18,630 Dakota Lindwurm: the course, I think because the course is so challenging 756 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,349 Dakota Lindwurm: and it'll be likely hot and humid in Paris that 757 00:41:22,739 --> 00:41:25,169 Dakota Lindwurm: it opens it up for an underdog. And I keep 758 00:41:25,170 --> 00:41:28,560 Dakota Lindwurm: saying I can't claim the underdog title for much longer, 759 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,450 Dakota Lindwurm: but I think I can claim it one more time 760 00:41:30,450 --> 00:41:33,480 Dakota Lindwurm: in Paris. And I don't know, I want to go 761 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,150 Dakota Lindwurm: surprise some people. I think I could place well and 762 00:41:36,509 --> 00:41:40,170 Dakota Lindwurm: on the right day, I wouldn't deny myself a medal, 763 00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:43,140 Dakota Lindwurm: I'd say. I think that I could surprise somebody. 764 00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:46,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. I absolutely love that mindset going in. 765 00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:51,239 Rob Simmelkjaer: What's your relationship with hills, Dakota? Because that's what everyone's 766 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: saying is people are intimidated by the hills. We know 767 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:57,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: a lot about hills here in New York. How do 768 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: you feel about hills? 769 00:41:59,279 --> 00:42:04,859 Dakota Lindwurm: I prefer flat marathons, but the great thing is we know it's 770 00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:08,130 Dakota Lindwurm: hilly, so we'll train for it. I've got an amazing 771 00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:11,369 Dakota Lindwurm: coach who I trust with my life, and we've already 772 00:42:11,370 --> 00:42:14,340 Dakota Lindwurm: been incorporating a lot of hill work, and I've got 773 00:42:14,340 --> 00:42:19,050 Dakota Lindwurm: a couple really great strength coaches who I've explained the 774 00:42:19,050 --> 00:42:20,850 Dakota Lindwurm: course to, and they're like, " All right, we're going to get 775 00:42:20,850 --> 00:42:23,850 Dakota Lindwurm: your quads ready to get beat up on those downhills." 776 00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:27,540 Dakota Lindwurm: So I have full trust in the system and in the 777 00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:32,879 Dakota Lindwurm: process, so I think I can be better than I have 778 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,119 Dakota Lindwurm: been on hills before, and I like that it's going 779 00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:38,100 Dakota Lindwurm: to be hilly because some of those women can run 780 00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:40,860 Dakota Lindwurm: nearly 10 minutes faster than I can in a marathon, 781 00:42:41,219 --> 00:42:42,930 Dakota Lindwurm: but they won't on this course. 782 00:42:44,099 --> 00:42:49,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: So Dakota, somewhere out there listening to this is a 783 00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:52,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: high school version of Dakota Lindwurm or maybe one of 784 00:42:52,799 --> 00:42:57,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: their parents, a girl who is an average high school 785 00:42:57,630 --> 00:43:01,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: runner, maybe just discovered it. Heck, my daughter just started 786 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: running cross country in ninth grade and she's running maybe 787 00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:07,259 Rob Simmelkjaer: a 22 something 5K. Pretty good for somebody who just started, 788 00:43:07,259 --> 00:43:10,979 Rob Simmelkjaer: but no one's looking at her as a division I 789 00:43:10,980 --> 00:43:14,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: athlete at least just yet. But what's your message to 790 00:43:14,969 --> 00:43:19,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: someone like that now as you prepare to represent the 791 00:43:19,710 --> 00:43:23,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: United States at the Olympic Games? What would you say 792 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,989 Rob Simmelkjaer: to that girl out there in terms of what they 793 00:43:24,989 --> 00:43:26,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: can get out of running? 794 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,130 Dakota Lindwurm: I like to say, don't set any limit on yourself. Just because you're 795 00:43:32,130 --> 00:43:35,910 Dakota Lindwurm: not doing what the best in your state is doing, 796 00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:40,590 Dakota Lindwurm: doesn't mean that you can't be better someday. Everybody develops 797 00:43:40,590 --> 00:43:44,009 Dakota Lindwurm: in a different timeline, and you just always have to 798 00:43:44,009 --> 00:43:46,828 Dakota Lindwurm: be the first person to bet on yourself and say, " 799 00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:49,680 Dakota Lindwurm: I believe in myself. I believe in the hard work 800 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,650 Dakota Lindwurm: that I will do and it will pay off someday. 801 00:43:52,650 --> 00:43:55,620 Dakota Lindwurm: Maybe not in the most immediate future, but if I 802 00:43:55,620 --> 00:43:58,590 Dakota Lindwurm: keep on keeping on keeping on, you're going to surprise somebody." 803 00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:01,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: And that payoff, Dakota, I mean, it could be a 804 00:44:01,770 --> 00:44:04,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: payoff like the one you're experiencing, but running can pay 805 00:44:04,590 --> 00:44:07,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: off in so many different ways. What are some of the 806 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: ways that running has paid off for you, aside from 807 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:12,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: the fact that it's been your career? 808 00:44:13,830 --> 00:44:18,809 Dakota Lindwurm: I think running, I mean, aside from the money, the 809 00:44:18,809 --> 00:44:21,809 Dakota Lindwurm: fame, the glory, running pays off every single day for 810 00:44:21,809 --> 00:44:24,270 Dakota Lindwurm: me. I get to wake up, put my shoes on, 811 00:44:24,270 --> 00:44:28,710 Dakota Lindwurm: and go do something I love in the deepest way. 812 00:44:29,969 --> 00:44:32,700 Dakota Lindwurm: On my very worst days of running, I love it 813 00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:35,250 Dakota Lindwurm: more than just about any other activity, and it really 814 00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:38,669 Dakota Lindwurm: centers me, and I think I'm just really grateful that 815 00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:39,660 Dakota Lindwurm: I found it for sure. 816 00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:45,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dakota, we are grateful to you. We're so excited to have you in New 817 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: York this weekend at the Mastercard New York Mini 10K. 818 00:44:49,170 --> 00:44:50,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's going to be such a thrill to see you 819 00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:54,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: line up along with all these incredible, great female athletes. 820 00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:57,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: So thank you for joining us, for telling your story. 821 00:44:57,089 --> 00:45:00,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's awesome and we're all rooting for you this weekend, 822 00:45:00,660 --> 00:45:02,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: and then of course in Paris as well. 823 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,919 Dakota Lindwurm: Yeah, thanks so much for having me on. I'm excited 824 00:45:04,919 --> 00:45:06,480 Dakota Lindwurm: to be a part of the Mini finally. 825 00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:12,989 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, Dakota Lindwurm, Mini 10K runner and Olympian coming 826 00:45:12,989 --> 00:45:16,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: up in the Paris 2024 games representing the United States 827 00:45:16,619 --> 00:45:19,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the marathon. You can check her out this weekend 828 00:45:19,260 --> 00:45:22,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: at the Mastercard New York Mini 10K, and we will 829 00:45:22,110 --> 00:45:37,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: see you there. Today's New York Road Runner member moment 830 00:45:37,739 --> 00:45:41,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: is with Gabrielle Yatauro. Gabrielle's a local elite runner who 831 00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:46,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: has run 33 races with NYRR since 2019. As a 832 00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:49,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: dual sport high school athlete, she transitioned away from sports 833 00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:53,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: and towards medical social work in college and graduate school, 834 00:45:54,299 --> 00:45:57,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: but she rediscovered her love of running with the Brooklyn 835 00:45:57,750 --> 00:46:02,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: Track Club. Like Dakota Lindwurm, Gabrielle is preparing for this 836 00:46:02,010 --> 00:46:05,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: weekend's Mastercard New York Mini 10K and she joins us today after 837 00:46:05,489 --> 00:46:09,629 Rob Simmelkjaer: running five half- marathons in the past five months, including 838 00:46:09,630 --> 00:46:13,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: both the United Airlines NYC Half and the RBC Brooklyn Half. 839 00:46:14,340 --> 00:46:16,980 Meb Keflezighi: Thanks, Rob. Gabrielle, welcome to the podcast. How are you 840 00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:17,161 Meb Keflezighi: doing today? 841 00:46:17,161 --> 00:46:17,521 Gabrielle Yatauro: I'm good. How are you? 842 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,250 Meb Keflezighi: I'm doing well. Well, you were a runner in high school, 843 00:46:23,250 --> 00:46:26,580 Meb Keflezighi: but the physical and emotional struggle in college with the 844 00:46:26,580 --> 00:46:30,209 Meb Keflezighi: sports drain, your desire to continue running. When and why 845 00:46:30,209 --> 00:46:31,350 Meb Keflezighi: did you start running again? 846 00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:35,279 Gabrielle Yatauro: Yeah, college was a bit tougher than I had imagined, 847 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,710 Gabrielle Yatauro: and I think I decided to take a break in 848 00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:40,859 Gabrielle Yatauro: college and after college and I decided to really focus 849 00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:43,980 Gabrielle Yatauro: in on my pursuit of social work. So I came 850 00:46:43,980 --> 00:46:48,030 Gabrielle Yatauro: to New York from Nashville, Tennessee to pursue grad school 851 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,660 Gabrielle Yatauro: at Columbia University. And again, I really wanted to put 852 00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:54,630 Gabrielle Yatauro: running away and focus on social work. But the moment 853 00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:57,690 Gabrielle Yatauro: I got to New York, I think I decided to 854 00:46:57,690 --> 00:46:59,489 Gabrielle Yatauro: relieve some stress. I was going to take a little 855 00:46:59,489 --> 00:47:02,429 Gabrielle Yatauro: jog through Central Park, and I mean, I think any 856 00:47:02,429 --> 00:47:04,590 Gabrielle Yatauro: runner can attest to it. The moment I stepped into 857 00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:08,339 Gabrielle Yatauro: Central Park, I was just blown away. I just couldn't imagine 858 00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:11,189 Gabrielle Yatauro: what an oasis this was in the middle of the city 859 00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:13,950 Gabrielle Yatauro: and I started running in Central Park just for stress 860 00:47:13,950 --> 00:47:17,099 Gabrielle Yatauro: relief. And then of course, as all again, I think 861 00:47:17,099 --> 00:47:18,809 Gabrielle Yatauro: a lot of New Yorkers know the moment I started 862 00:47:18,809 --> 00:47:20,879 Gabrielle Yatauro: running in the park, I had friendly faces come up 863 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,480 Gabrielle Yatauro: to me and ask, " Who do you run with? You 864 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,280 Gabrielle Yatauro: should definitely come out and run with us." And I got 865 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,340 Gabrielle Yatauro: all these invites and questions on who I ran with, 866 00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:32,280 Gabrielle Yatauro: and as fate had it, I talked to someone very 867 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,730 Gabrielle Yatauro: specifically who ran for Brooklyn Track Club. They invite me 868 00:47:35,730 --> 00:47:39,089 Gabrielle Yatauro: to a long run, very casually one Sunday, and the 869 00:47:39,089 --> 00:47:39,989 Gabrielle Yatauro: rest is history. 870 00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:43,590 Meb Keflezighi: Well, you're right, Central Park, it keeps us all together 871 00:47:43,590 --> 00:47:45,660 Meb Keflezighi: and kind of keeps us sane and be able to 872 00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:48,630 Meb Keflezighi: just enjoy the comradery that brings the together. But when 873 00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:51,719 Meb Keflezighi: you're not running, you are a medical social worker. Can 874 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,239 Meb Keflezighi: you help us understand what that job entails and how 875 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,319 Meb Keflezighi: it helps you to do the job better as a runner? 876 00:47:59,130 --> 00:48:02,610 Gabrielle Yatauro: Yeah, I think being a social worker in general, I found a 877 00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:05,910 Gabrielle Yatauro: love for community and helping others in that community and 878 00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:08,580 Gabrielle Yatauro: within a hospital, you really see all walks of life 879 00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:11,309 Gabrielle Yatauro: and at different points in life. So as a medical 880 00:48:11,309 --> 00:48:14,820 Gabrielle Yatauro: social worker, my main job is to provide support to 881 00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:18,029 Gabrielle Yatauro: families and the patients themselves, but then to help coordinate 882 00:48:18,029 --> 00:48:21,810 Gabrielle Yatauro: their plan outside of leaving the hospital. So connecting them 883 00:48:21,810 --> 00:48:24,210 Gabrielle Yatauro: to whatever resources that they need within the New York 884 00:48:24,210 --> 00:48:27,419 Gabrielle Yatauro: City community or wherever they're coming from or going to 885 00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:32,399 Gabrielle Yatauro: and making sure they're well- supported, well- connected, and really 886 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,159 Gabrielle Yatauro: seeing them through that process. And so I think that 887 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,520 Gabrielle Yatauro: really translates well into even just the running community here 888 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,609 Gabrielle Yatauro: in New York. I think my love for community and 889 00:48:41,610 --> 00:48:45,030 Gabrielle Yatauro: helping others and being a part of community was exactly 890 00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:49,049 Gabrielle Yatauro: the same as running here in New York. So it's 891 00:48:49,049 --> 00:48:51,960 Gabrielle Yatauro: a tough job, but it's very fulfilling. Same with running. 892 00:48:52,289 --> 00:48:54,000 Gabrielle Yatauro: Running is tough, but very fulfilling. 893 00:48:54,270 --> 00:48:59,040 Meb Keflezighi: Sounds very parallel. For me, I visit doctors sometimes when 894 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,639 Meb Keflezighi: it was elderly. I think just have another appreciation what 895 00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:05,190 Meb Keflezighi: your body is able to do because you can see all 896 00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:08,220 Meb Keflezighi: walks of life like it says after surgery, and now 897 00:49:08,610 --> 00:49:10,768 Meb Keflezighi: they have to go through their rehab and all those things. 898 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,409 Meb Keflezighi: What is your mental thing? What do you think when 899 00:49:13,409 --> 00:49:16,320 Meb Keflezighi: you're struggling through the run or whatnot? Does that give you 900 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,229 Meb Keflezighi: a little different perspective seeing those people? 901 00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:23,520 Gabrielle Yatauro: Yes. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I specifically work here at 902 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,089 Gabrielle Yatauro: NYU Orthopedic Hospital, and I work on the rehab center. 903 00:49:27,089 --> 00:49:31,440 Gabrielle Yatauro: And the rehab center specifically, I see people going into 904 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,250 Gabrielle Yatauro: really intense occupational therapy, physical therapy, and I think we 905 00:49:35,250 --> 00:49:36,779 Gabrielle Yatauro: can all relate to the fact that a lot of 906 00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:39,509 Gabrielle Yatauro: us don't want to do therapy, don't want to put 907 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:41,579 Gabrielle Yatauro: in the work sometimes, but we know it's needed. And 908 00:49:41,849 --> 00:49:46,500 Gabrielle Yatauro: watching patients go from something really traumatic or something that 909 00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:49,020 Gabrielle Yatauro: is really important to them and working towards getting out 910 00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:53,310 Gabrielle Yatauro: of the hospital healthier really does put into perspective. I'm 911 00:49:53,310 --> 00:49:56,190 Gabrielle Yatauro: seeing them go from maybe not walking to coming out 912 00:49:56,190 --> 00:49:58,620 Gabrielle Yatauro: walking. So when I get to run, it just really 913 00:49:58,620 --> 00:50:01,410 Gabrielle Yatauro: reminds me of how grateful I am to be able 914 00:50:01,469 --> 00:50:03,629 Gabrielle Yatauro: to do what I do and to be surrounded by 915 00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:06,359 Gabrielle Yatauro: the people that I am. I really lucky. And it 916 00:50:06,359 --> 00:50:09,450 Gabrielle Yatauro: definitely puts into perspective and I think it helps talk to 917 00:50:09,450 --> 00:50:12,450 Gabrielle Yatauro: patients as well and get more on their level as 918 00:50:12,450 --> 00:50:15,270 Gabrielle Yatauro: well, and understanding the hardships of what they're going through 919 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,300 Gabrielle Yatauro: and their body. So it's nice. 920 00:50:18,809 --> 00:50:21,030 Meb Keflezighi: Well, that's great. And then I'm pretty sure you inspire 921 00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:24,209 Meb Keflezighi: them. They inspire you equally. You have around five half- 922 00:50:24,209 --> 00:50:28,001 Meb Keflezighi: marathons in five a month, which is incredible, including (inaudible) 923 00:50:28,001 --> 00:50:31,830 Meb Keflezighi: , few Olympians at the United NYC Half and winning the 924 00:50:31,830 --> 00:50:35,849 Meb Keflezighi: 2024 Surf City Half Marathon. What does it feel to 925 00:50:35,849 --> 00:50:39,900 Meb Keflezighi: have so many great experience and especially winning in your hometown? 926 00:50:40,890 --> 00:50:42,989 Gabrielle Yatauro: Yeah, I think I'm really lucky to be able to 927 00:50:42,989 --> 00:50:46,529 Gabrielle Yatauro: have the opportunity. I've grown up in a lot of places, which really 928 00:50:46,530 --> 00:50:49,320 Gabrielle Yatauro: did emphasize my love for community. I've seen a lot 929 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,950 Gabrielle Yatauro: of different walks of life, a lot of different places 930 00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:55,950 Gabrielle Yatauro: where I lived, and it was really exciting. I hadn't 931 00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:58,500 Gabrielle Yatauro: planned on running five. It kind of just came into 932 00:50:58,709 --> 00:51:02,069 Gabrielle Yatauro: every place that I've lived before had a half, and 933 00:51:02,070 --> 00:51:04,980 Gabrielle Yatauro: it was just so exciting because each half was just 934 00:51:05,219 --> 00:51:08,489 Gabrielle Yatauro: so celebratory and different in their own ways. To have 935 00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:12,480 Gabrielle Yatauro: friends that I've met while in New York City congratulate 936 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,000 Gabrielle Yatauro: me and be along me, running next to me at 937 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,149 Gabrielle Yatauro: the NYC Half and Brooklyn, and then to go to my 938 00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:22,620 Gabrielle Yatauro: hometown and have childhood friends be there to support me. 939 00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:26,280 Gabrielle Yatauro: I mean, it truly made me feel so loved and 940 00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:28,500 Gabrielle Yatauro: just grateful to have that support and to be able 941 00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:32,099 Gabrielle Yatauro: to do that was, I mean, truly so fun. And 942 00:51:32,099 --> 00:51:34,529 Gabrielle Yatauro: I went from Houston Half starting where there's, I mean, 943 00:51:34,529 --> 00:51:38,520 Gabrielle Yatauro: so many elite runners go to Houston to get OTQs 944 00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:42,540 Gabrielle Yatauro: qualifying times and then to round it out with United 945 00:51:42,540 --> 00:51:45,870 Gabrielle Yatauro: Airlines and lining up with the professional leap field was, 946 00:51:45,870 --> 00:51:49,259 Gabrielle Yatauro: I mean, so indescribable. To be able to do that 947 00:51:49,259 --> 00:51:54,779 Gabrielle Yatauro: is just... I'm a regular, I work. Professional running is 948 00:51:54,780 --> 00:51:57,360 Gabrielle Yatauro: not my job. So to be able to line up 949 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,000 Gabrielle Yatauro: going from the hometown to then lining up professionals in 950 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,489 Gabrielle Yatauro: New York City was a dream come true, 951 00:52:03,630 --> 00:52:06,809 Meb Keflezighi: Keep working hard. How was it for you to say, 952 00:52:06,809 --> 00:52:08,700 Meb Keflezighi: I'm going to go for a recreation run to Central 953 00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:12,239 Meb Keflezighi: Park, and that changed everything to now be part of 954 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,060 Meb Keflezighi: the Brooklyn Track Club. And how important is the club for 955 00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:16,230 Meb Keflezighi: you as a runner now? 956 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,989 Gabrielle Yatauro: Yeah, I think I have to pinch myself every day when I 957 00:52:18,989 --> 00:52:22,920 Gabrielle Yatauro: do get these opportunities. Brooklyn Track Club has helped me 958 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,529 Gabrielle Yatauro: so much. I mean, just in terms of feeling the 959 00:52:25,530 --> 00:52:28,139 Gabrielle Yatauro: love and support. I know no matter how I finish 960 00:52:28,139 --> 00:52:31,140 Gabrielle Yatauro: where I finish in a race, I have teammates, people 961 00:52:31,140 --> 00:52:35,670 Gabrielle Yatauro: that have inspired me since day one. Our captains, our 962 00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:38,968 Gabrielle Yatauro: women's team, we just have so many different people that 963 00:52:39,059 --> 00:52:43,980 Gabrielle Yatauro: same as me, have really tough jobs. They're moms, they're 964 00:52:43,980 --> 00:52:46,440 Gabrielle Yatauro: just doing day- to- Day things, but to always come 965 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,610 Gabrielle Yatauro: together come race day, or even practices on Tuesday nights 966 00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:54,630 Gabrielle Yatauro: at McCarren Track, it is so welcoming and loving and it 967 00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:57,719 Gabrielle Yatauro: just feels so supportive. Brooklyn Track Club has really kind 968 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,400 Gabrielle Yatauro: of helped me meet other people too. And not even 969 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,219 Gabrielle Yatauro: just Brooklyn Track Club, even for the United Airlines Half. 970 00:53:02,219 --> 00:53:05,609 Gabrielle Yatauro: They were women from Central Park Track Club, Dashing Whippets, 971 00:53:06,029 --> 00:53:08,610 Gabrielle Yatauro: Front Runners, so many other clubs, and we all got 972 00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:10,410 Gabrielle Yatauro: to stand together on the line. And I think we 973 00:53:10,410 --> 00:53:12,660 Gabrielle Yatauro: all become, there's a lot of different teams in New 974 00:53:12,660 --> 00:53:15,899 Gabrielle Yatauro: York, I mean hundreds of teams, which fits to each 975 00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:18,870 Gabrielle Yatauro: person's what they want, but when we stand together on 976 00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:21,389 Gabrielle Yatauro: the line, it truly did feel like we are New 977 00:53:21,389 --> 00:53:25,620 Gabrielle Yatauro: York. We came all from the same place. And it's 978 00:53:25,620 --> 00:53:27,540 Gabrielle Yatauro: always special to have a team and people that are 979 00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:30,540 Gabrielle Yatauro: constantly there for you. It's cool. 980 00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:34,380 Meb Keflezighi: Gabrielle, I hear you're running the Mastercard New York Mini 981 00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,440 Meb Keflezighi: 10K. How excited are you and what are you looking forward to? 982 00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:41,550 Gabrielle Yatauro: Oh, I'm so unbelievably excited for this weekend. I think 983 00:53:41,730 --> 00:53:43,770 Gabrielle Yatauro: really everyone is going to be in Central Park come 984 00:53:43,770 --> 00:53:48,270 Gabrielle Yatauro: Saturday. New York Road Runners post today. I mean, they're 985 00:53:48,420 --> 00:53:51,989 Gabrielle Yatauro: seven out of the top 10 OTQ Marathon qualifies for the 986 00:53:51,989 --> 00:53:56,579 Gabrielle Yatauro: Olympics. We have world record holders, women that have won 987 00:53:56,580 --> 00:53:58,650 Gabrielle Yatauro: the New York City Marathon. I mean, it's truly so 988 00:53:58,650 --> 00:54:01,410 Gabrielle Yatauro: exciting to be able to line up next to those women and it's 989 00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:04,890 Gabrielle Yatauro: so inspirational. I can't wait. I think because it's all 990 00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:09,330 Gabrielle Yatauro: women too, it's so unique and it really just gives us 991 00:54:09,630 --> 00:54:12,899 Gabrielle Yatauro: a placeholder to stand advocate for ourselves and do what 992 00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:16,020 Gabrielle Yatauro: we do best, which is run, jog, walk through Central 993 00:54:16,020 --> 00:54:18,090 Gabrielle Yatauro: Park. It's going to be a great weekend. 994 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,239 Meb Keflezighi: Well, you are all about community, so looking forward to 995 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,650 Meb Keflezighi: seeing you on that area. 996 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,120 Gabrielle Yatauro: Definitely. 997 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,609 Meb Keflezighi: We're so delighted to have you on the podcast. Keep 998 00:54:26,610 --> 00:54:28,500 Meb Keflezighi: up the great work and wish you the best in 999 00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:29,010 Meb Keflezighi: the future. 1000 00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:29,910 Gabrielle Yatauro: Yeah, thanks so much. 1001 00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:33,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: Thank you, Gabrielle, for joining us and for being a 1002 00:54:33,179 --> 00:54:36,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: member of New York Roadrunners. We will all be watching 1003 00:54:36,090 --> 00:54:38,729 Rob Simmelkjaer: for you this weekend at the Mastercard New York Mini 1004 00:54:38,730 --> 00:54:41,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: 10K. Now it's time for the last part of our 1005 00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:42,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: show, the Med Minutes. 1006 00:54:43,230 --> 00:54:47,790 Meb Keflezighi: Thanks, Rob. Goal setting is so important. It's the right mind frame 1007 00:54:47,790 --> 00:54:51,359 Meb Keflezighi: to lead to running success. Three things that needs to 1008 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,059 Meb Keflezighi: be determined for your long- term goals. You have set 1009 00:54:54,059 --> 00:54:56,160 Meb Keflezighi: goals, you have to make a commitment and be a 1010 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,000 Meb Keflezighi: hard worker. Goals are important because they are a roadmap 1011 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,869 Meb Keflezighi: to success. As we heard our podcast this day, Dakota 1012 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:07,050 Meb Keflezighi: Lindwurm going to the Olympics from being a walk on. 1013 00:55:07,410 --> 00:55:10,109 Meb Keflezighi: This is something that you should plan for long term, 1014 00:55:10,109 --> 00:55:13,380 Meb Keflezighi: but believe in yourself that you want to do it. You don't 1015 00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:15,989 Meb Keflezighi: want to say, " Hey, I expect this or want that," 1016 00:55:15,989 --> 00:55:17,340 Meb Keflezighi: but you want to be able to just say, " I want to do 1017 00:55:17,820 --> 00:55:19,920 Meb Keflezighi: this." Make a commitment to be able to be the 1018 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,609 Meb Keflezighi: best he can. A goal needs to be specific, like 1019 00:55:23,610 --> 00:55:26,219 Meb Keflezighi: for me was like, win New York or win Boston 1020 00:55:26,219 --> 00:55:29,430 Meb Keflezighi: or make an Olympic team in 2012. Or sometimes it's 1021 00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:33,029 Meb Keflezighi: specific as running a 10K. " I want to break the American record." 1022 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,270 Meb Keflezighi: You are personally making that a goal for yourself and 1023 00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:39,090 Meb Keflezighi: for others. And if you can tell to some close friends, 1024 00:55:39,179 --> 00:55:42,630 Meb Keflezighi: that makes huge. But goals are important. They get you 1025 00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:45,299 Meb Keflezighi: out of the bed and make you get up when 1026 00:55:45,299 --> 00:55:48,058 Meb Keflezighi: the weather is not nice. So as long as you 1027 00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:50,820 Meb Keflezighi: tie your shoes and stop pursuing your goals, great things 1028 00:55:50,820 --> 00:55:54,690 Meb Keflezighi: can happen. And as we have seen, Dakota come from 1029 00:55:54,989 --> 00:55:58,650 Meb Keflezighi: a walk on or average runner in high school and 1030 00:55:58,860 --> 00:56:01,950 Meb Keflezighi: to making the Olympic team, it's just such a wonderful, never give up 1031 00:56:01,950 --> 00:56:05,549 Meb Keflezighi: on your dreams, keep pursuing and one mile at a 1032 00:56:05,549 --> 00:56:07,620 Meb Keflezighi: time, one goal at a time, and scratch them out. 1033 00:56:07,710 --> 00:56:09,930 Meb Keflezighi: Make them attainable. Don't make them so far that you 1034 00:56:09,930 --> 00:56:12,660 Meb Keflezighi: can't reach it, but as long you making a checkup 1035 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,049 Meb Keflezighi: and going to the progress one step at a time, you're 1036 00:56:16,050 --> 00:56:19,020 Meb Keflezighi: going to do wonderful. And congratulations to Dakota on making 1037 00:56:19,020 --> 00:56:22,650 Meb Keflezighi: her first Olympic team and just the underdog, finishing third is 1038 00:56:22,650 --> 00:56:23,729 Meb Keflezighi: good as gold. 1039 00:56:24,270 --> 00:56:26,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: We have reached the finish line of another episode of 1040 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: Set the Pace. Thank you to our amazing guest today, 1041 00:56:29,580 --> 00:56:33,809 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dakota Lindwurm and Gabrielle Yatauro. And don't forget to catch 1042 00:56:33,809 --> 00:56:36,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: them both this weekend at the Mastercard New York Mini 1043 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,288 Rob Simmelkjaer: 10K. If you like this episode, please go ahead and 1044 00:56:40,289 --> 00:56:43,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: subscribe, rate it, leave a comment for us on whatever 1045 00:56:43,710 --> 00:56:47,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: platform you're listening on. 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