1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,280 AUDIO: Thank you, New York. Today, we're reminded of the power 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,139 AUDIO: of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on 3 00:00:13,139 --> 00:00:18,989 AUDIO: your mark. The first woman to finish for the second straight 4 00:00:18,989 --> 00:00:22,470 AUDIO: year here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a 5 00:00:22,470 --> 00:00:26,488 AUDIO: smiling Miki Gorman. And why not? 2: 29:30, the time for Grete Waitz. Look at 6 00:00:28,139 --> 00:00:30,690 AUDIO: the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes to the 7 00:00:30,690 --> 00:00:34,859 AUDIO: line. Pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA he so 8 00:00:34,859 --> 00:00:44,428 AUDIO: proudly wears across his chest. A great day for Meb Keflezighi. 9 00:00:44,429 --> 00:00:48,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hey, everybody, and welcome to another episode of Set the 10 00:00:48,059 --> 00:00:51,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace presented by Peloton. We are the official podcast of 11 00:00:51,990 --> 00:00:54,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Road Runners. I'm your host and CEO of 12 00:00:54,990 --> 00:00:58,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Road Runners, Rob Simmelkjaer, back with the amazing 13 00:00:59,010 --> 00:01:02,699 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs Gentry back for another week as my co- host. 14 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:06,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: And Becs, great to see you and happy belated Mother's Day. It 15 00:01:06,990 --> 00:01:10,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: was your second year as mom of Tallulah. What was 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,449 Rob Simmelkjaer: Mother's Day like for you and the fam? 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,620 Becs Gentry: Mother's Day was wonderful and thank you so much. Well, 18 00:01:16,620 --> 00:01:19,318 Becs Gentry: I started the day with a wonderful run at Peloton. 19 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:22,380 Becs Gentry: I actually did a Mother's Day run with lovely members 20 00:01:22,380 --> 00:01:27,990 Becs Gentry: in the room, which was very touching, emotional, and euphoric 21 00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:31,170 Becs Gentry: at the same time. And then we chilled. We honestly, 22 00:01:31,170 --> 00:01:33,330 Becs Gentry: we had a really... It was pretty miserable weather, so 23 00:01:33,330 --> 00:01:35,369 Becs Gentry: it was a good excuse to stay home, snuggle up, 24 00:01:35,459 --> 00:01:38,070 Becs Gentry: do some painting, and quality time. 25 00:01:39,270 --> 00:01:41,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, here in New York, it was not the best 26 00:01:41,849 --> 00:01:44,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: Mother's Day weather. The afternoon got okay, but yes, a 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: little bit chilly. 28 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:45,780 Becs Gentry: It did. 29 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:48,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hope folks out there had a great Mother's Day. If 30 00:01:48,180 --> 00:01:51,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: they got some runs in maybe with some mother- daughter 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: runs or whatever it was, that it was a great, great 32 00:01:54,150 --> 00:01:57,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: weekend and always a great day to celebrate. And we've 33 00:01:57,450 --> 00:02:00,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: got ourselves a big, big weekend coming up here, Becs, 34 00:02:00,540 --> 00:02:03,809 Rob Simmelkjaer: but I actually had a little personal news, at least 35 00:02:03,809 --> 00:02:06,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: from the running point of view, myself. I can't run Brooklyn 36 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:09,389 Rob Simmelkjaer: this weekend because it's hard for me as CEO to 37 00:02:09,389 --> 00:02:12,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: run our biggest races, but I did sign up for 38 00:02:12,210 --> 00:02:15,539 Rob Simmelkjaer: a half- marathon. I'm going to run the Fairfield Half 39 00:02:15,540 --> 00:02:19,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: Marathon up here in Fairfield, Connecticut on Sunday, June 2nd, 40 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:24,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: which I'm excited about. I tried, Becs, to run this 41 00:02:24,059 --> 00:02:27,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: race last year and this was right around the time 42 00:02:27,570 --> 00:02:29,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: I started to get knee injuries last year. I had 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: a big ramp- up of my running in the first six 44 00:02:33,030 --> 00:02:36,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: months in this job and my knees just went south 45 00:02:36,508 --> 00:02:38,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: and I wasn't able to make it, but I deferred. 46 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:41,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm feeling great and I'm going to give it a 47 00:02:41,490 --> 00:02:43,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: go on June 2nd, so that should be fun. It's 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: a hilly but nice course. It runs along the Long 49 00:02:46,830 --> 00:02:50,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: Island Sound for parts of it, you get some water views, and I'm excited 50 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:52,888 Rob Simmelkjaer: to give it a go at the Athletic Brewing Company 51 00:02:52,889 --> 00:02:54,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: Fairfield Half on June 2nd. 52 00:02:54,750 --> 00:02:58,288 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh. I'm so excited for you! We've been 53 00:02:58,288 --> 00:03:02,220 Becs Gentry: talking about Rob stepping his game up here and you've 54 00:03:02,220 --> 00:03:04,889 Becs Gentry: been getting PR after PR on your four- miler, so 55 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,320 Becs Gentry: this is your endurance time to shine. 56 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:11,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, it's time to stretch out the legs a little, 57 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:14,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: see if I can get to some bigger distances. I 58 00:03:14,429 --> 00:03:18,209 Rob Simmelkjaer: ran last Friday morning in the park, put out about 59 00:03:18,209 --> 00:03:20,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: nine or 10 miles and it felt good. So it 60 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:22,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: was right after that I said, " Okay, this is it. 61 00:03:22,350 --> 00:03:25,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm feeling good enough to sign up and commit and 62 00:03:25,050 --> 00:03:26,669 Rob Simmelkjaer: talk about it." This is when you talk about it. When you 63 00:03:26,669 --> 00:03:28,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: talk about it is when you're actually doing it right, Becs? 64 00:03:28,350 --> 00:03:28,351 Becs Gentry: Correct. 65 00:03:28,351 --> 00:03:31,169 Rob Simmelkjaer: So I am now talking about running a half and 66 00:03:31,169 --> 00:03:33,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm looking forward to that on June 2nd, but- 67 00:03:33,689 --> 00:03:35,100 Becs Gentry: That is it, the commitment. 68 00:03:35,609 --> 00:03:38,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: Absolutely. And by the way, I should mention one of 69 00:03:38,430 --> 00:03:41,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: the things that has really gotten me ready to run 70 00:03:41,670 --> 00:03:45,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: a half this spring is NYRR Group Training, which I 71 00:03:45,690 --> 00:03:49,259 Rob Simmelkjaer: have been a lover of since I started here at 72 00:03:49,259 --> 00:03:53,099 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Road Runners. It's an incredible program where our 73 00:03:53,100 --> 00:03:56,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Road Runners coaches meet up with you. You 74 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:59,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: can sign up for Tuesdays, Thursdays, or Wednesdays in the 75 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:02,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: morning or the evenings, and they just have a great 76 00:04:02,550 --> 00:04:07,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: program where you run with a group. They divide you up 77 00:04:07,530 --> 00:04:11,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: based on your speed, groups one through six, and every 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: single day, there's a different plan. Some days are focused 79 00:04:15,390 --> 00:04:19,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: on speed work, some days are focused on endurance, pacing, 80 00:04:19,980 --> 00:04:23,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: tempo runs, and it has made me such a better runner, 81 00:04:23,370 --> 00:04:25,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs. So it's actually open right now- 82 00:04:25,470 --> 00:04:25,471 Becs Gentry: Brilliant. 83 00:04:25,471 --> 00:04:28,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... for folks who are interested in signing up for 84 00:04:28,559 --> 00:04:31,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: the next session, which is the session after the Brooklyn 85 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: Half. You can go to nyrr.org. We're going to put the 86 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: link in the show notes, and you can do it 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: all around the city. We've got Central Park, we've got 88 00:04:40,469 --> 00:04:45,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: Uptown Manhattan, we've got the East River Park track downtown. 89 00:04:45,779 --> 00:04:48,719 Rob Simmelkjaer: We've got Astoria Park and Prospect Park out in Brooklyn. 90 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: So I'm a huge fan of that, and if you've never 91 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:52,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: tried it, if you want to get better and you're 92 00:04:52,860 --> 00:04:54,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the New York area, you can give it a 93 00:04:54,630 --> 00:04:56,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: try. We also have it up in Connecticut as well 94 00:04:56,580 --> 00:04:58,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: with the YMCA in Westport, Connecticut. 95 00:04:59,730 --> 00:05:00,300 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh. No excuses. 96 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:01,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: Group training, Becs, it's a beautiful thing. 97 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,480 Becs Gentry: They're everywhere. I love it. I love running with a 98 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:10,169 Becs Gentry: community. But you pointed it out, Rob. This weekend, this 99 00:05:10,170 --> 00:05:13,860 Becs Gentry: weekend people have been training with the group training ahead 100 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,740 Becs Gentry: of the RBC Brooklyn Half, and I don't know how 101 00:05:19,799 --> 00:05:22,649 Becs Gentry: many other people, because I think it's zillions, are as 102 00:05:22,650 --> 00:05:25,980 Becs Gentry: excited as I am for the fact that we have 103 00:05:25,980 --> 00:05:29,460 Becs Gentry: all three members of the 2024 U. S. Olympic Women's 104 00:05:29,460 --> 00:05:33,000 Becs Gentry: Marathon Team running in the MasterCard Mini 10K, which is 105 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,089 Becs Gentry: the next race after the RBC Brooklyn Half. So I 106 00:05:36,089 --> 00:05:40,829 Becs Gentry: just feel like we have moment after moment coming through, and 107 00:05:40,830 --> 00:05:44,070 Becs Gentry: I say that because the team training, between all of 108 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:45,988 Becs Gentry: our women right now in the U. S. Team... I say, " 109 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:48,419 Becs Gentry: Our." I know I'm British, but I feel like I 110 00:05:48,420 --> 00:05:52,260 Becs Gentry: can say, "Our," on the U. S. Olympic Team here has been 111 00:05:52,260 --> 00:05:56,698 Becs Gentry: amazing. Their community is... I can feel them. I feel 112 00:05:56,700 --> 00:05:58,948 Becs Gentry: like they'd be going to the group training side of 113 00:05:58,949 --> 00:06:01,500 Becs Gentry: things together even if they're sponsored by different people. The 114 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:04,409 Becs Gentry: love is so real and I'm really excited to see 115 00:06:04,410 --> 00:06:05,700 Becs Gentry: them shine at the Mini 10K. 116 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:09,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: This was a huge deal for us and an incredibly 117 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: exciting announcement last week to announce that all three women 118 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,139 Rob Simmelkjaer: on the U. S. Marathon Olympic Team will be running 119 00:06:16,139 --> 00:06:20,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the MasterCard Mini 10K. Fiona O'Keefe, Emily Sisson, and 120 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:24,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dakota Lindwurm will all be at the starting line of 121 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:27,928 Rob Simmelkjaer: the MasterCard Mini. That's on June 8th. So yeah, that's 122 00:06:27,928 --> 00:06:31,078 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to be a huge deal. Congrats to them. We're 123 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: so excited to host them. Our pro- athletes team did 124 00:06:34,109 --> 00:06:37,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: such a great job recruiting that amazing field, one of 125 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,611 Rob Simmelkjaer: my favorite races of the year. 126 00:06:38,611 --> 00:06:38,911 Becs Gentry: Me too. 127 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,339 Rob Simmelkjaer: Can't wait for it. But before we get to it, 128 00:06:41,339 --> 00:06:43,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: we got a lot of work and a lot of 129 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: fun coming up in Brooklyn this coming weekend. The RBC 130 00:06:47,580 --> 00:06:49,979 Rob Simmelkjaer: Brooklyn Half, everybody out there, if you're listening to this 131 00:06:50,309 --> 00:06:53,789 Rob Simmelkjaer: on the Thursday, the Friday before the race, and these 132 00:06:53,789 --> 00:06:56,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: are your final preparations, we wish you all the best. 133 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: If you haven't yet, go back and listen to last week's 134 00:07:00,150 --> 00:07:04,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: episode with Ted Metellus, Ted giving you the 411 on 135 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,499 Rob Simmelkjaer: all the things you need to know from baggage to 136 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:09,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: when to show up to what you can expect at 137 00:07:09,929 --> 00:07:13,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: the finish line, a course review or preview as well. 138 00:07:13,890 --> 00:07:16,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: So check that out, and obviously we want to make 139 00:07:16,650 --> 00:07:21,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: sure you enjoy the RBC Brooklyn Half Pre- Party Presented 140 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,299 Rob Simmelkjaer: by New Balance. That's at the Brooklyn Bridge Park, Pier 141 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:28,769 Rob Simmelkjaer: 2. Get there nice and early. Give yourself time to 142 00:07:28,770 --> 00:07:32,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: soak that in. Enjoy that. It's such a great event. 143 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hopefully we get good weather for it, but take your 144 00:07:34,830 --> 00:07:37,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: time, and then make sure it's not... Just don't go 145 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: in rushed, grab your bib, turn around and leave. No, 146 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:43,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: spend a few hours. Make it an event for yourself 147 00:07:43,590 --> 00:07:46,319 Rob Simmelkjaer: to hang out because it's not just a pickup; it's 148 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: a party, Becs, and I look forward to seeing everybody out there. 149 00:07:48,810 --> 00:07:51,420 Becs Gentry: Oh, yeah. I can't wait. It is one of my favorite 150 00:07:51,420 --> 00:07:55,410 Becs Gentry: weekends of the year. I've run this race. I love 151 00:07:55,410 --> 00:07:59,219 Becs Gentry: this race. I love how it starts. It's a really 152 00:07:59,219 --> 00:08:01,349 Becs Gentry: early start, which is one thing to note if you 153 00:08:01,349 --> 00:08:03,960 Becs Gentry: are finding out about it for the first time. It's a 154 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,780 Becs Gentry: really early start. We're looking at 7: 00 AM first wave, 8: 155 00:08:06,780 --> 00:08:10,530 Becs Gentry: 00 AM, I believe, second wave. And we are also 156 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:14,670 Becs Gentry: having to mention it's on Saturday, everyone. It's on Saturday. 157 00:08:14,910 --> 00:08:17,070 Becs Gentry: It's unusual. It is. For the amount of- 158 00:08:17,070 --> 00:08:17,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: Don't be the one. 159 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:17,131 Becs Gentry: No! 160 00:08:17,131 --> 00:08:23,729 Rob Simmelkjaer: Don't be the one that shows up Sunday. We don't want people 161 00:08:23,730 --> 00:08:25,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: showing up Sunday. Absolutely. 162 00:08:25,740 --> 00:08:27,480 Becs Gentry: I mean, you'll always have people to run with in 163 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,840 Becs Gentry: Prospect Park in that area, but it won't be New York 164 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,110 Becs Gentry: Road Runners. So definitely make sure you show up nice 165 00:08:34,110 --> 00:08:37,980 Becs Gentry: and early on Saturday morning. And as Rob said, the Pre- 166 00:08:37,980 --> 00:08:41,129 Becs Gentry: Party Presented by New Balance is phenomenal. It is so 167 00:08:41,129 --> 00:08:44,429 Becs Gentry: much fun. I'm a Brooklynite. I love that it's over 168 00:08:44,429 --> 00:08:46,380 Becs Gentry: this side. I love that we get to show off 169 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:49,710 Becs Gentry: our vibe a little bit over here. When you pick 170 00:08:49,710 --> 00:08:52,770 Becs Gentry: up your bib, you are going to get no preview 171 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,580 Becs Gentry: of the course, which I quite like. It's just the 172 00:08:56,580 --> 00:09:00,239 Becs Gentry: area. So Prospect Park, you're going to run Grand Army 173 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,900 Becs Gentry: Plaza. If you've never run around that, it is really, really 174 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:06,390 Becs Gentry: stunning to look up. Make sure you look up to the 175 00:09:06,390 --> 00:09:08,520 Becs Gentry: top of that monument. I know as runners, we keep 176 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,800 Becs Gentry: our eyes down a lot of the time, so get your eyes up 177 00:09:11,099 --> 00:09:13,980 Becs Gentry: to the sky and see the magnificence of the monument 178 00:09:13,980 --> 00:09:16,919 Becs Gentry: there. But then running out to Coney Island, I mean, 179 00:09:16,980 --> 00:09:19,738 Becs Gentry: it's a beach. Even if it's raining, you see the 180 00:09:19,740 --> 00:09:25,559 Becs Gentry: ocean and there's something very calming and relaxing, I think, 181 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,010 Becs Gentry: about an ocean, especially on a rainy day. So get 182 00:09:29,010 --> 00:09:34,889 Becs Gentry: yourselves counting down in the alphabet to Coney Island. That's 183 00:09:35,070 --> 00:09:35,879 Becs Gentry: my cryptic clue. 184 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's exactly what it is. You go down Ocean Parkway, see 185 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:43,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: those letters going down, and you know you're getting closer 186 00:09:43,170 --> 00:09:46,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: to the finish line. So for everybody getting ready, we 187 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,468 Rob Simmelkjaer: wish you all the best. We'll talk about it a bit 188 00:09:49,469 --> 00:09:51,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: more later in the podcast, but it should be a great 189 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: day. We hope for good weather, of course, and a 190 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: great day for everybody showing up at the RBC Brooklyn 191 00:09:58,170 --> 00:10:00,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: Half. We've got a great show for you on Set 192 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Pace today. Our guests today are two of the 193 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: hosts of the hugely popular The Drop Podcast, Thomas Neuberger 194 00:10:08,490 --> 00:10:11,909 Rob Simmelkjaer: and Meaghan Murray. They've managed to turn their love of 195 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:15,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: running into their careers. I love it, Becs, when people are 196 00:10:15,540 --> 00:10:17,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: able to do that. I've been able to do that. 197 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:20,488 Rob Simmelkjaer: You've been able to do that. Their website, Believe in 198 00:10:20,490 --> 00:10:23,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Run, is the top running review site online. They 199 00:10:23,849 --> 00:10:27,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: review shoes and apparel and all kinds of things that 200 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:29,578 Rob Simmelkjaer: are so important to runners. And they've also, along the 201 00:10:29,580 --> 00:10:32,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: way, built a great community of runners who tune in 202 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: digitally every week to their podcast. They'll both be running 203 00:10:36,420 --> 00:10:38,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: the RBC Brooklyn Half for the second year in a row, 204 00:10:39,270 --> 00:10:41,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: so we can't wait to talk to them about how 205 00:10:41,550 --> 00:10:44,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: they are feeling about the race. They'll be up in 206 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,789 Rob Simmelkjaer: a minute. Later on in the show, our man Meb Keflezighi 207 00:10:47,789 --> 00:10:50,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: will be here to interview New York Road Runners' member 208 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:54,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: Michael Albeck. As Michael prepares for this weekend's RBC Brooklyn 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: Half, he's going to share with us how New York 210 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: Road Runners has become an integral part of his whole 211 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: family's life. And for our weekly Meb Minute, Meb's going 212 00:11:02,910 --> 00:11:05,669 Rob Simmelkjaer: to give us his best advice on training to run 213 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: a new course for those of you who are running Brooklyn for the first 214 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: time. So all that coming up on Set the Pace. 215 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:14,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs, before we get to our guest, it is so 216 00:11:14,670 --> 00:11:17,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: beautiful outside today, and spring is my favorite time of 217 00:11:17,580 --> 00:11:19,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: year to start a new workout routine. 218 00:11:20,219 --> 00:11:22,980 Becs Gentry: Totally agree, Rob. With the weather warming up, it just 219 00:11:22,980 --> 00:11:25,980 Becs Gentry: feels so much easier to get into the rhythm of things. 220 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:28,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: One of the things that works so well for me, 221 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs, about Peloton is whether I've got 20 minutes to 222 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:34,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: kill or a full hour for a Pilates class or 223 00:11:34,650 --> 00:11:38,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: maybe an outdoor guided walk, Peloton has everything I need 224 00:11:38,820 --> 00:11:39,719 Rob Simmelkjaer: to help get me going. 225 00:11:40,049 --> 00:11:42,780 Becs Gentry: It certainly does. It is such a great way to 226 00:11:42,780 --> 00:11:45,450 Becs Gentry: get a head start on summer with Peloton. You can 227 00:11:45,450 --> 00:11:47,580 Becs Gentry: find it at onepeloton. com. 228 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: And now, let's welcome in our guests, Thomas Neuberger and 229 00:11:51,510 --> 00:11:54,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: Meaghan Murray, from Believe in the Run and the two 230 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:57,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: hosts of The Drop Podcast. If you're not familiar with 231 00:11:57,599 --> 00:12:01,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: The Drop, it's a pretty popular podcast that focuses on in- 232 00:12:01,199 --> 00:12:05,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: depth discussion and interviews relating to running shoes and gear 233 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: and training. Thomas and Meaghan, as well as the rest 234 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:10,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: of the team, are big runners and they say running 235 00:12:10,380 --> 00:12:12,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: has changed their lives. It is great to have them 236 00:12:12,540 --> 00:12:14,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: on the show. Thomas, Meaghan, welcome. 237 00:12:15,210 --> 00:12:16,110 Thomas Neuberger: This is a trip. 238 00:12:16,230 --> 00:12:16,231 Meaghan Murray: Yes, thanks for having us. 239 00:12:16,231 --> 00:12:22,228 Thomas Neuberger: I never thought I'd be on with New York Road Runners and Becs. Obviously, this is 240 00:12:22,980 --> 00:12:24,990 Thomas Neuberger: a real honor to be on the show. 241 00:12:25,290 --> 00:12:28,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: We're thrilled to have you guys. So all right, first 242 00:12:28,469 --> 00:12:31,319 Rob Simmelkjaer: question, for those who don't know, what is Believe in 243 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Run? What is that all about? 244 00:12:33,630 --> 00:12:34,170 Meaghan Murray: Take it away. 245 00:12:34,889 --> 00:12:37,410 Thomas Neuberger: It's always a weird question because I think we straddle 246 00:12:39,150 --> 00:12:42,030 Thomas Neuberger: a couple different areas. So traditional media, we have our 247 00:12:42,030 --> 00:12:45,179 Thomas Neuberger: website where we are, I would say, more on the 248 00:12:45,179 --> 00:12:49,499 Thomas Neuberger: traditional side of doing reviews and long- read articles and 249 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:52,619 Thomas Neuberger: that kind of stuff. And then we started doing YouTube 250 00:12:52,619 --> 00:12:56,550 Thomas Neuberger: videos to drive traffic to the website and that coincided 251 00:12:56,550 --> 00:13:01,199 Thomas Neuberger: with the trend of people becoming influencers in the running 252 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Thomas Neuberger: space. And so we never intended to be one, but 253 00:13:04,860 --> 00:13:07,738 Thomas Neuberger: because our faces were out there and people see what we were 254 00:13:07,950 --> 00:13:11,549 Thomas Neuberger: doing, that's where we started blending, I'd say, the new 255 00:13:11,549 --> 00:13:15,809 Thomas Neuberger: media with the old media, and it just worked well 256 00:13:15,809 --> 00:13:20,429 Thomas Neuberger: together that we have both going for us and cover 257 00:13:20,429 --> 00:13:23,610 Thomas Neuberger: a lot of area. Did that... I didn't even answer 258 00:13:23,610 --> 00:13:24,179 Thomas Neuberger: the question, did I? 259 00:13:24,179 --> 00:13:24,239 Becs Gentry: You did. 260 00:13:25,950 --> 00:13:30,539 Meaghan Murray: We're primarily a running shoe site that dabbles in the 261 00:13:30,539 --> 00:13:33,210 Meaghan Murray: social world and we have a podcast as well. 262 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:33,481 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah, there we go. 263 00:13:33,481 --> 00:13:33,482 Meaghan Murray: A little more succinct. 264 00:13:33,482 --> 00:13:42,179 Becs Gentry: I love that. I love the balance here between the two of you. It's fantastic. 265 00:13:42,180 --> 00:13:42,870 Thomas Neuberger: That's it, yeah. 266 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:49,410 Becs Gentry: Great pairing. Okay, so let's talk about what has changed 267 00:13:49,410 --> 00:13:51,450 Becs Gentry: because I think just from hearing that, the both of 268 00:13:51,450 --> 00:13:55,590 Becs Gentry: you have two slightly different descriptions of Believe in the Run. 269 00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:58,860 Becs Gentry: So how it started to where it is today, could 270 00:13:58,860 --> 00:14:01,350 Becs Gentry: you talk us through where it's come from and where it is? 271 00:14:02,010 --> 00:14:06,809 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. It started when I was raising money for a 272 00:14:06,809 --> 00:14:09,718 Thomas Neuberger: charity and I was going to run the TransRockies Run, 273 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,370 Thomas Neuberger: which is a multi- day, over- 100- miles race across 274 00:14:14,940 --> 00:14:18,478 Thomas Neuberger: the Rocky Mountains. And so it was one of the 275 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,549 Thomas Neuberger: bigger things I was doing towards the beginning of my 276 00:14:20,549 --> 00:14:24,479 Thomas Neuberger: running, so I thought it would be a great way to raise 277 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,030 Thomas Neuberger: awareness for the Baltimore Child Abuse Center. And so I 278 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:30,480 Thomas Neuberger: raised funds for that, and so I started a website to 279 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,780 Thomas Neuberger: chronicle my training because back then, there wasn't much in 280 00:14:33,780 --> 00:14:36,450 Thomas Neuberger: the way of... Now there's so many different platforms for 281 00:14:36,450 --> 00:14:38,699 Thomas Neuberger: you to talk about your running. Back then, there wasn't, 282 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:41,789 Thomas Neuberger: so I created a website. And as I was doing 283 00:14:41,789 --> 00:14:45,660 Thomas Neuberger: the training for TransRockies, people were curious what gear I 284 00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:48,960 Thomas Neuberger: was using and what shoes I liked or what poles 285 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,880 Thomas Neuberger: I was going to use on the mountain or jackets. 286 00:14:51,420 --> 00:14:55,710 Thomas Neuberger: So I started talking about that and the brands started noticing 287 00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:57,779 Thomas Neuberger: and they're like, " Hey, if we send you, would you 288 00:14:57,780 --> 00:15:02,100 Thomas Neuberger: talk about our brand?" I'm like, " Are you kidding? This is great." 289 00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:04,500 Thomas Neuberger: I still remember my first thing I ever got was 290 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:06,720 Thomas Neuberger: a stick of Glide and I thought I just won 291 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Thomas Neuberger: the lottery. I was like, " Oh, this is amazing." 292 00:15:09,660 --> 00:15:10,979 Becs Gentry: Oh. Hey, don't knock free Glide. 293 00:15:10,979 --> 00:15:16,019 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. But then it started to evolve. Meaghan and I 294 00:15:16,020 --> 00:15:21,150 Thomas Neuberger: met at a company that did software for social media 295 00:15:22,110 --> 00:15:25,680 Thomas Neuberger: and we were doing a lot of campaign stuff together and she was like 296 00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:28,170 Thomas Neuberger: a casual runner. You want to talk about that a 297 00:15:28,170 --> 00:15:28,680 Thomas Neuberger: little bit, Meg? 298 00:15:29,220 --> 00:15:32,219 Meaghan Murray: Yeah. I mean, I grew up playing sports my whole 299 00:15:32,219 --> 00:15:34,079 Meaghan Murray: life, but I always hated running. And then when I 300 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,020 Meaghan Murray: went to college, I gave up all sports, so I 301 00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:39,510 Meaghan Murray: was like, " Well, I should do something active," so I 302 00:15:39,510 --> 00:15:42,690 Meaghan Murray: just started running a little bit. And then when Thomas 303 00:15:42,690 --> 00:15:46,770 Meaghan Murray: I met at the marketing company, he was out doing 50- 304 00:15:46,770 --> 00:15:50,130 Meaghan Murray: milers and I was like, " This guy is nuts," but 305 00:15:50,130 --> 00:15:52,350 Meaghan Murray: convinced me to sign up for a race and then 306 00:15:52,350 --> 00:15:54,360 Meaghan Murray: I signed up for a marathon and it just snowballed 307 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,690 Meaghan Murray: from there. But we ended up focusing a lot more 308 00:15:57,690 --> 00:15:59,880 Meaghan Murray: on Believe in the Run at that time because it 309 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,220 Meaghan Murray: was getting a lot more attention and brands were noticing 310 00:16:02,220 --> 00:16:06,571 Meaghan Murray: and sending more product and it just escalated from there. 311 00:16:06,571 --> 00:16:10,320 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. And then Robbie came on board and he's a 312 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,388 Thomas Neuberger: phenomenal writer. I don't know if you've read some of his 313 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,140 Thomas Neuberger: stuff on the site, but he's a tremendous asset, and 314 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,029 Thomas Neuberger: we were working, splitting the time. We started our own 315 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:24,900 Thomas Neuberger: business, Big Run Media, where we did a lot of marketing 316 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:28,290 Thomas Neuberger: for races and different running events and stuff like that. 317 00:16:29,369 --> 00:16:33,390 Thomas Neuberger: And during the pandemic when everything went to sideways, we 318 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:36,660 Thomas Neuberger: ended up focusing more on Believe in the Run, doing 319 00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:40,260 Thomas Neuberger: some more stuff, and it's actually one of those, it 320 00:16:40,260 --> 00:16:42,840 Thomas Neuberger: seemed like a tragedy at the time that all the 321 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,900 Thomas Neuberger: races were getting canceled and we were losing clients, but 322 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:47,820 Thomas Neuberger: we focused on Believe in the Run. As a matter of fact, 323 00:16:47,820 --> 00:16:50,520 Thomas Neuberger: that's when I feel like it just lit fire and 324 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,040 Thomas Neuberger: a lot of people see us and they go, " Oh, you guys, 325 00:16:53,730 --> 00:16:55,350 Thomas Neuberger: last couple of years, you just came out of nowhere." 326 00:16:55,350 --> 00:16:59,879 Thomas Neuberger: I'm like, " We've been doing this since 2009. It's been 327 00:16:59,879 --> 00:17:00,450 Thomas Neuberger: a while." 328 00:17:00,869 --> 00:17:04,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: And do you guys see, I mean, what's going on 329 00:17:04,650 --> 00:17:09,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the running space right now with the explosion of 330 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: popularity, how many people are running, and not just running, 331 00:17:13,710 --> 00:17:17,218 Rob Simmelkjaer: but to your point, talking about running, creating content about 332 00:17:17,219 --> 00:17:22,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: running, making running the basis of businesses just like yours? 333 00:17:23,279 --> 00:17:25,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: What do you think is driving it? Because I get 334 00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:27,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: this question all the time at New York Road Runners. 335 00:17:27,930 --> 00:17:31,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: Why? What's happening? Why are all of our races sold 336 00:17:31,290 --> 00:17:36,779 Rob Simmelkjaer: out? Why do we have 150,000 people trying to get 337 00:17:36,780 --> 00:17:39,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: into the TCS New York City Marathon with so few 338 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: of them actually getting in? What do you think is 339 00:17:42,570 --> 00:17:47,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: driving this cultural phenomenon of running being so hot right now? 340 00:17:49,260 --> 00:17:50,580 Thomas Neuberger: I mean, I have my ideas. What is yours? 341 00:17:50,580 --> 00:17:54,000 Meaghan Murray: Yeah, it's such a good question. I think partially, the 342 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,930 Meaghan Murray: pandemic was responsible for a lot of new runners and 343 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,850 Meaghan Murray: we're seeing that snowball effect. I think especially during the 344 00:18:02,850 --> 00:18:05,430 Meaghan Murray: pandemic, that was the one thing where we could all 345 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:07,080 Meaghan Murray: just walk out the door and go for a run 346 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,388 Meaghan Murray: still. And I think that was so empowering at the 347 00:18:09,388 --> 00:18:11,939 Meaghan Murray: time and a lot of people have just continued that, 348 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:14,429 Meaghan Murray: and I think you saw a friend who started running 349 00:18:14,429 --> 00:18:15,448 Meaghan Murray: and then it was like, " Well, if they can do it, 350 00:18:15,450 --> 00:18:17,069 Meaghan Murray: maybe I can do it." And I just think it 351 00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:21,030 Meaghan Murray: was this snowball effect of more people getting involved, and 352 00:18:21,030 --> 00:18:23,310 Meaghan Murray: because we do have social media where you can share 353 00:18:23,310 --> 00:18:25,290 Meaghan Murray: it, even if you don't have a best friend who 354 00:18:25,290 --> 00:18:27,780 Meaghan Murray: runs, you can see someone online who's running and be 355 00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:29,999 Meaghan Murray: inspired by them. So I think it's just been like... 356 00:18:30,780 --> 00:18:33,210 Meaghan Murray: I think that's probably where we got this big growth 357 00:18:33,210 --> 00:18:35,490 Meaghan Murray: spurt, and I'm hoping it continues, but I do think 358 00:18:35,490 --> 00:18:37,649 Meaghan Murray: the pandemic was probably a big part of it. 359 00:18:38,369 --> 00:18:40,530 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. And to add on to what Meg's saying because 360 00:18:40,530 --> 00:18:44,250 Thomas Neuberger: I agree, but you go online now and you see 361 00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:47,009 Thomas Neuberger: somebody that looks like you or is starting the journey 362 00:18:47,010 --> 00:18:51,029 Thomas Neuberger: that is like you, so there's more... It's cooler now 363 00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:55,710 Thomas Neuberger: to run. Before, it might've been your dad going, he's 364 00:18:55,710 --> 00:19:02,130 Thomas Neuberger: wearing generic running clothes and the generic blue running shoe 365 00:19:02,250 --> 00:19:04,978 Thomas Neuberger: and it didn't look that exciting. He's going to go 366 00:19:04,980 --> 00:19:08,069 Thomas Neuberger: for his run, mow his lawn, have a beer that 367 00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:13,200 Thomas Neuberger: afternoon. That was the idea of recreational running, where now 368 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,359 Thomas Neuberger: you look and there's people out there like Matt Choi 369 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,859 Thomas Neuberger: who are pushing that hybrid athlete, working out, being a full- 370 00:19:19,859 --> 00:19:22,708 Thomas Neuberger: rounded athlete that happens to love running. You look at 371 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:28,230 Thomas Neuberger: somebody like Herms Runs, who's Alex Hermanson, who he's saying 372 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:30,900 Thomas Neuberger: to people, " Hey, it's cool. You don't have to be 373 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,150 Thomas Neuberger: in three- inch shorts and 120 and restricting your diet 374 00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:38,668 Thomas Neuberger: and taking it so seriously that every race has to 375 00:19:38,670 --> 00:19:41,010 Thomas Neuberger: be a PR. It can be an event that we're 376 00:19:41,010 --> 00:19:45,839 Thomas Neuberger: all part of." And Heller, there's a whole bunch of 377 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:49,829 Thomas Neuberger: people out there that are making this content that now 378 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:56,070 Thomas Neuberger: you can identify with, Tommie Runz, these people that are bringing people 379 00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:59,129 Thomas Neuberger: into the sport that maybe didn't see a spot for 380 00:19:59,130 --> 00:19:59,789 Thomas Neuberger: them before. 381 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,989 Becs Gentry: I love that. It's so much about the community and 382 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:07,350 Becs Gentry: I think there's been a lot of chat recently about 383 00:20:07,410 --> 00:20:12,448 Becs Gentry: run crew culture, running culture, how they were parallel, they 384 00:20:12,450 --> 00:20:16,198 Becs Gentry: were intertwined, and now they're going off separately, and I 385 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,138 Becs Gentry: think that does have a lot to do with brand 386 00:20:19,138 --> 00:20:25,109 Becs Gentry: recognition. And I love what you both are saying of 387 00:20:25,109 --> 00:20:28,320 Becs Gentry: the you can go on social media or wherever you 388 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,619 Becs Gentry: digest your culture, let's say, and you can see somebody 389 00:20:31,619 --> 00:20:34,980 Becs Gentry: who looks like you, whoever you are, wherever you are. 390 00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:39,420 Becs Gentry: And from what you guys are delivering, you are individual. 391 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:45,180 Becs Gentry: You're not heavily... You do reviews of everything and I 392 00:20:45,180 --> 00:20:48,660 Becs Gentry: love going on to online and reading your reviews and 393 00:20:49,230 --> 00:20:54,149 Becs Gentry: seeing them because you're honest. And I think real runners 394 00:20:54,719 --> 00:20:57,898 Becs Gentry: are. We go through... I mean, the real runner fear 395 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:02,490 Becs Gentry: is what happens if the shoe isn't good enough? And 396 00:21:02,490 --> 00:21:04,859 Becs Gentry: it's not the brand, it's not how it looks. You're 397 00:21:04,859 --> 00:21:08,429 Becs Gentry: just like, "Oh, what happens if it's not comfortable? What happens if it gives me blisters?" That 398 00:21:08,429 --> 00:21:13,379 Becs Gentry: is what reading reviews and listening to you guys, that's 399 00:21:13,380 --> 00:21:17,820 Becs Gentry: genuine because you've got the person who hated running, played 400 00:21:17,820 --> 00:21:20,820 Becs Gentry: soccer, to the person who will run millions of miles 401 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:26,460 Becs Gentry: over very bad terrain and you're going to deliver honest, honest 402 00:21:26,460 --> 00:21:30,418 Becs Gentry: reviews of, " This Glide stick sucks," or, " this one is 403 00:21:30,509 --> 00:21:36,209 Becs Gentry: fantastic." And I just think, does it ever... When you're 404 00:21:36,209 --> 00:21:39,510 Becs Gentry: doing the reviews, have you ever been too swayed by 405 00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:43,170 Becs Gentry: brands or do you find it really refreshing to be 406 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:44,189 Becs Gentry: as free and open as you are? 407 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:51,779 Meaghan Murray: I will say it's easier naturally to talk about something 408 00:21:51,780 --> 00:21:54,630 Meaghan Murray: that you feel strongly towards, whether that's negative or positive. 409 00:21:54,779 --> 00:21:58,830 Meaghan Murray: The words just flow. So we do have an editor 410 00:21:58,830 --> 00:22:01,800 Meaghan Murray: because sometimes we'll just go off on whether it's good 411 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,280 Meaghan Murray: or bad, we're just very honest, and so we do 412 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,799 Meaghan Murray: have an editor to make sure it's all correct and 413 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:10,529 Meaghan Murray: everything like that. But we found that working with these 414 00:22:10,529 --> 00:22:14,670 Meaghan Murray: brands, they appreciate the honesty because a lot of times, 415 00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:17,970 Meaghan Murray: you're just hearing what you want to hear online and 416 00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:20,520 Meaghan Murray: everything's great and wonderful, but when we are really honest, 417 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,429 Meaghan Murray: and we've tried so many shoes that we can be 418 00:22:23,429 --> 00:22:26,609 Meaghan Murray: really nitpicky and say, " Hey, this little minor thing here 419 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,369 Meaghan Murray: stood out to us and this isn't great," and the brands- 420 00:22:29,369 --> 00:22:29,370 Thomas Neuberger: Easily fixed. 421 00:22:29,370 --> 00:22:31,530 Meaghan Murray: ... the brands love it because they can take it 422 00:22:31,530 --> 00:22:34,710 Meaghan Murray: back to their team and actually use that as feedback 423 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,540 Meaghan Murray: to make the next model even better. 424 00:22:36,540 --> 00:22:39,270 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. When I first started meeting brands, and to get 425 00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:41,309 Thomas Neuberger: to the part about being swayed by them, when I 426 00:22:41,309 --> 00:22:43,590 Thomas Neuberger: first started meeting brands, I was actually a little nervous 427 00:22:44,009 --> 00:22:47,579 Thomas Neuberger: because I felt like, "Hey, I just trashed one of their 428 00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:50,700 Thomas Neuberger: shoes," and I was surprised because we'd go to this 429 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:52,890 Thomas Neuberger: thing called the Running Event where we get to interact 430 00:22:52,890 --> 00:22:57,840 Thomas Neuberger: with the brands. And I was timid the first time 431 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,448 Thomas Neuberger: I went, and then I started talking to them. They're like, " No, 432 00:23:00,450 --> 00:23:02,250 Thomas Neuberger: thank you for saying that because we took it back 433 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:05,430 Thomas Neuberger: to the team because we've been arguing for a softer 434 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:08,820 Thomas Neuberger: midsole and you guys keep saying that. So we say 435 00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:10,408 Thomas Neuberger: it, they don't listen, but when we bring one of 436 00:23:10,410 --> 00:23:14,309 Thomas Neuberger: your reviews or something, it's an outsider saying, 'Hey, this 437 00:23:14,309 --> 00:23:16,800 Thomas Neuberger: needs to be fixed.'" So a lot of times, the 438 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,099 Thomas Neuberger: teams are really happy with us. As far as being 439 00:23:20,099 --> 00:23:24,269 Thomas Neuberger: swayed by the brands, we try to keep somewhat of 440 00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:27,210 Thomas Neuberger: a curtain between our reviews and that. So we don't 441 00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:30,060 Thomas Neuberger: ever charge for reviews. We get the shoes obviously for 442 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:32,940 Thomas Neuberger: free, they'll send them to us, but we don't take 443 00:23:32,940 --> 00:23:37,198 Thomas Neuberger: a fee for doing a review, and we express to 444 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,849 Thomas Neuberger: the brands when we work with them on the other 445 00:23:38,849 --> 00:23:41,369 Thomas Neuberger: side, which is the side like what we're doing with 446 00:23:41,369 --> 00:23:44,820 Thomas Neuberger: the RBC Brooklyn Half where we're working with New Balance, 447 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,188 Thomas Neuberger: we talk to them beforehand when we work with these 448 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:51,418 Thomas Neuberger: brands and we say, " Hey, look, the reason why you're talking 449 00:23:51,420 --> 00:23:54,749 Thomas Neuberger: to us is because we've been honest about product and 450 00:23:54,750 --> 00:23:57,449 Thomas Neuberger: we're a reliable source for people who want to get 451 00:23:58,170 --> 00:24:00,540 Thomas Neuberger: the best experience out of their running shoes or running 452 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:06,090 Thomas Neuberger: gear. If we become commercials, then you're not going to 453 00:24:06,090 --> 00:24:07,440 Thomas Neuberger: want to work with us anyway because we're going to 454 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,698 Thomas Neuberger: lose our credibility and our audience." So most of the 455 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,908 Thomas Neuberger: brands have an understanding with us that things aren't going 456 00:24:14,910 --> 00:24:19,500 Thomas Neuberger: to change. Now, it is crazy when we go out 457 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:21,450 Thomas Neuberger: to a headquarters of a company or something like that. 458 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:23,730 Thomas Neuberger: For that day or so, you do get a little 459 00:24:23,730 --> 00:24:26,220 Thomas Neuberger: bit of a glow because it's like, I'm sure you 460 00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:29,219 Thomas Neuberger: guys have visited some of these places, they're pretty fantastic 461 00:24:29,219 --> 00:24:33,060 Thomas Neuberger: and these guys know their marketing. They're beautiful, the sport, 462 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,269 Thomas Neuberger: you can feel the sport in the air, and you 463 00:24:36,270 --> 00:24:38,310 Thomas Neuberger: are, for a little while, you're a little drunk on 464 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,270 Thomas Neuberger: love. So I usually wait a little while before, if 465 00:24:42,270 --> 00:24:44,158 Thomas Neuberger: I've got a shoe review for them, I'll wait a 466 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,030 Thomas Neuberger: week or so before I do that. 467 00:24:45,030 --> 00:24:46,051 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sober up, sober up a little bit. 468 00:24:46,051 --> 00:24:49,259 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah, exactly. You can walk away from those places being like, " 469 00:24:49,259 --> 00:24:52,168 Thomas Neuberger: Damn. If I ever lost my job, that's where I 470 00:24:52,170 --> 00:24:52,589 Thomas Neuberger: want to be." 471 00:24:52,589 --> 00:24:52,678 Becs Gentry: Yep. 472 00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:58,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. I mean, the honesty is what makes 473 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,438 Rob Simmelkjaer: it good, right? I mean, the bad reviews are what 474 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,879 Rob Simmelkjaer: make the good reviews matter. 475 00:25:02,879 --> 00:25:02,968 Meaghan Murray: Right. 476 00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:03,029 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. 477 00:25:03,209 --> 00:25:07,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: So congrats to you guys for being able to carve out that 478 00:25:07,650 --> 00:25:11,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: space, and it's obviously really valuable to your listeners, so 479 00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:14,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's really awesome. Let's talk about shoes a little bit 480 00:25:14,820 --> 00:25:17,638 Rob Simmelkjaer: and what you guys are seeing in terms of the 481 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:23,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: evolution. I've been running since high school and I've run 482 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,648 Rob Simmelkjaer: in running shoes, and some I've liked and some I 483 00:25:25,650 --> 00:25:29,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: haven't liked. I never really thought that they would have 484 00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:33,688 Rob Simmelkjaer: a huge impact on my performance until very recently, and 485 00:25:33,690 --> 00:25:37,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: even now, I'm still catching up to, " Well, should I 486 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: get one of these plates? Should I get this?" And 487 00:25:40,138 --> 00:25:42,809 Rob Simmelkjaer: still, I work in the industry and I still don't 488 00:25:42,809 --> 00:25:45,569 Rob Simmelkjaer: really know what I should be doing for my own 489 00:25:45,570 --> 00:25:48,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: shoes to get the maximum performance. For someone like me, 490 00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:52,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: and I'm a decent runner, but I'm not winning any 491 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: races anywhere anytime soon, how much does it matter? Should 492 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: I really be making the hundreds and hundreds of dollars 493 00:25:59,309 --> 00:26:02,519 Rob Simmelkjaer: or sometimes more that people are spending on some of 494 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: these shoes to get five minutes off my half- marathon time? 495 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:12,148 Thomas Neuberger: If time's your only concern, then it would depend on 496 00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:15,510 Thomas Neuberger: your level of running. I don't feel like the cost 497 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:20,520 Thomas Neuberger: to minutes is actually the best indicator of whether the 498 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,238 Thomas Neuberger: shoe is worth the money. I look at it psychologically. 499 00:26:24,388 --> 00:26:27,390 Thomas Neuberger: If you get up in the morning, and Rob, you 500 00:26:27,390 --> 00:26:29,490 Thomas Neuberger: know every day you don't feel like running, but you 501 00:26:29,490 --> 00:26:31,678 Thomas Neuberger: go down and you just got a new pair, and you're opening the 502 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,280 Thomas Neuberger: box, it's fresh, you slide your foot in, " Oh, that 503 00:26:35,340 --> 00:26:38,369 Thomas Neuberger: cushioning. It's brand new. It feels so good," you're going 504 00:26:38,369 --> 00:26:41,670 Thomas Neuberger: to be pumped up to go for your run. Now, 505 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:44,369 Thomas Neuberger: you get out the door and the foam doesn't feel 506 00:26:44,369 --> 00:26:48,480 Thomas Neuberger: that great. You start running, not having the best running 507 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,050 Thomas Neuberger: experience. That's where the reviews come in. We're trying to 508 00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:54,209 Thomas Neuberger: help you have the best experience. So when you talk 509 00:26:54,210 --> 00:26:55,650 Thomas Neuberger: about what you're trying to get out of the shoe, 510 00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:58,199 Thomas Neuberger: I want you to be motivated to run, be excited 511 00:26:58,199 --> 00:27:00,090 Thomas Neuberger: to get out there. Once you're out there, I want 512 00:27:00,090 --> 00:27:03,090 Thomas Neuberger: you to feel like you're gliding and feel like the 513 00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:06,570 Thomas Neuberger: shoes aren't part... The best shoes are the ones that disappear 514 00:27:06,570 --> 00:27:10,829 Thomas Neuberger: on your feet and you don't feel them. Now, once 515 00:27:10,830 --> 00:27:12,330 Thomas Neuberger: you get to that feeling and you're out there and 516 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:15,359 Thomas Neuberger: you're doing your weekly mileage and getting things on the 517 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,150 Thomas Neuberger: baseline done, then you get to race day and you get 518 00:27:18,150 --> 00:27:21,810 Thomas Neuberger: to throw on a super shoe that's plated, bouncy, and 519 00:27:21,810 --> 00:27:25,800 Thomas Neuberger: feels amazing, the whole experience is like going to a four- 520 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,129 Thomas Neuberger: course meal. It's like that's your starter, you go there, 521 00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:32,579 Thomas Neuberger: and then next thing you know, the dessert is the finish 522 00:27:32,580 --> 00:27:34,918 Thomas Neuberger: line and you're kicking it through and it's great. 523 00:27:36,210 --> 00:27:40,020 Meaghan Murray: I mean, we're obviously big shoe nerds, so we could 524 00:27:40,020 --> 00:27:41,640 Meaghan Murray: talk to you about shoes all day long, but I 525 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,780 Meaghan Murray: do feel like they're extremely important and worth the money 526 00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:50,160 Meaghan Murray: because like Thomas was saying, the experience psychologically, you want 527 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,529 Meaghan Murray: to feel good when you're out there running. I do 528 00:27:52,529 --> 00:27:56,580 Meaghan Murray: feel like these new foams and plated shoes can assist 529 00:27:56,580 --> 00:27:59,820 Meaghan Murray: you with running faster. And then also, the last piece 530 00:27:59,820 --> 00:28:02,700 Meaghan Murray: of it for me is the recovery. You feel so 531 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:05,340 Meaghan Murray: much better afterwards when you have a shoe that fits 532 00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:07,859 Meaghan Murray: well and has a good foam and a plate in 533 00:28:07,859 --> 00:28:10,320 Meaghan Murray: it, or not a plate depending on what you prefer, 534 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:14,010 Meaghan Murray: but those aspects just make running not only feel better 535 00:28:14,010 --> 00:28:16,320 Meaghan Murray: during, but also after, and then you're more likely to 536 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,550 Meaghan Murray: go back out the door the next day. 537 00:28:17,550 --> 00:28:18,300 Thomas Neuberger: That's a great point. 538 00:28:18,659 --> 00:28:22,800 Becs Gentry: Yeah, I totally agree with you, Meaghan. I'm there for the speed element is 539 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,400 Becs Gentry: a wonderful bonus to the fact that you can recover 540 00:28:26,910 --> 00:28:31,109 Becs Gentry: and get back on the run. Because again, going back 541 00:28:31,109 --> 00:28:34,410 Becs Gentry: to that true runner wants to get out almost every 542 00:28:34,410 --> 00:28:36,359 Becs Gentry: day or as often as they can, and you don't 543 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,200 Becs Gentry: want to be impeded by lower- leg soreness, upper- leg 544 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,849 Becs Gentry: soreness, wherever you've run. So that's my big sell on 545 00:28:44,849 --> 00:28:47,009 Becs Gentry: these, the foams and the plates as we call them. 546 00:28:50,189 --> 00:28:52,109 Becs Gentry: Do you know how many running shoes you've reviewed? 547 00:28:54,329 --> 00:28:55,890 Thomas Neuberger: We were trying to figure that out the other day because 548 00:28:55,890 --> 00:29:01,290 Thomas Neuberger: we probably get over 100 pairs a year. 549 00:29:01,290 --> 00:29:01,350 Becs Gentry: Whoa. 550 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:04,231 Thomas Neuberger: And you can do the math back to... 551 00:29:04,231 --> 00:29:04,590 Meaghan Murray: 2009. 552 00:29:04,590 --> 00:29:09,570 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. So that is the one thing that I feel 553 00:29:09,930 --> 00:29:12,480 Thomas Neuberger: we have an advantage over. There's only a couple people 554 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,300 Thomas Neuberger: that I would say are anywhere close to us with 555 00:29:16,170 --> 00:29:19,740 Thomas Neuberger: the amount of shoes and the variance of shoes that 556 00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:24,990 Thomas Neuberger: we've tried and run in and reviewed. I would think 557 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:29,070 Thomas Neuberger: you're probably talking about Jeff Dengate, you might be talking 558 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:34,110 Thomas Neuberger: about, I think that Sam has been doing it for 559 00:29:34,110 --> 00:29:40,260 Thomas Neuberger: a while, Metzler, who's from Outside. Those are the people 560 00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:43,529 Thomas Neuberger: that I know that I feel somewhat peers towards where I 561 00:29:43,530 --> 00:29:47,550 Thomas Neuberger: can talk about a shoe that was... We went through 562 00:29:47,550 --> 00:29:50,789 Thomas Neuberger: all the trends. We went through minimal to max cushion, 563 00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:54,870 Thomas Neuberger: swung back and forth. So those are the people that I can... 564 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,540 Thomas Neuberger: When they say something about a shoe, I listen. 565 00:29:57,900 --> 00:29:59,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, I could talk about shoes for the rest of 566 00:29:59,850 --> 00:30:03,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: this podcast, but we have a race coming up this 567 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: weekend, the RBC Brooklyn Half. You are both participating and 568 00:30:07,770 --> 00:30:11,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: running and let's talk about that. You ran last year, 569 00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:12,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: I believe, both of you. 570 00:30:13,050 --> 00:30:13,860 Thomas Neuberger: I shouldn't have. 571 00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:15,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: What happened? 572 00:30:17,130 --> 00:30:22,500 Thomas Neuberger: Well, I ran London, New York, Tokyo, and Boston, and 573 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,351 Thomas Neuberger: then the half, and my foot was hurting and I think I was- 574 00:30:25,351 --> 00:30:27,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: Gee, I can't imagine why. 575 00:30:27,270 --> 00:30:27,450 Becs Gentry: Shocking. 576 00:30:27,930 --> 00:30:34,980 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah, I think I had a little bit of a stress fracture or the beginnings of one, so 577 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,469 Thomas Neuberger: it wasn't a good race for me. 578 00:30:37,469 --> 00:30:41,400 Meaghan Murray: I, on the other hand, loved it. It was tons of 579 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,730 Meaghan Murray: fun. I ran with a couple friends and we actually 580 00:30:44,730 --> 00:30:46,770 Meaghan Murray: ran it as more of a progression run. So it 581 00:30:46,770 --> 00:30:50,520 Meaghan Murray: was very, very fun. And yeah, the crowds there are 582 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,780 Meaghan Murray: great. The course was really fun. I remember the end 583 00:30:54,780 --> 00:30:58,110 Meaghan Murray: is almost downhill all the way to the finish line, 584 00:30:58,110 --> 00:30:59,340 Meaghan Murray: which is always lovely. 585 00:30:59,340 --> 00:30:59,459 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah, it didn't feel downhill. 586 00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:03,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: One of you thought it was downhill. 587 00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:11,311 Becs Gentry: Yeah. Thomas was going uphill somewhere. 588 00:31:11,311 --> 00:31:11,611 Thomas Neuberger: I mean, the New York Marathon feels uphill the whole way for me. Yeah. 589 00:31:11,611 --> 00:31:11,612 Meaghan Murray: Yeah, yeah. 590 00:31:11,612 --> 00:31:13,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: And what are you guys going to be doing? You've got not 591 00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:16,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: just the race but some other things going on race 592 00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:18,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: weekend. Talk about where we're going to see you. 593 00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:23,670 Meaghan Murray: Yeah. So we are going to come up on Thursday and we're going to host 594 00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:26,189 Meaghan Murray: a panel. Thomas will be chatting with- 595 00:31:26,189 --> 00:31:26,790 Thomas Neuberger: You know one of the guys. 596 00:31:26,790 --> 00:31:28,679 Meaghan Murray: Yeah. Who are you chatting with? 597 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,470 Thomas Neuberger: Ted from New York Road Runners. 598 00:31:31,530 --> 00:31:31,860 Becs Gentry: Aw, lovely. 599 00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:34,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: Ted Metellus, our race director, absolutely. 600 00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:38,010 Thomas Neuberger: Yes, yes. And the New York City Marathon. So I'm excited. I already talked 601 00:31:38,010 --> 00:31:40,350 Thomas Neuberger: to him. We did a little pre- interview thing, so 602 00:31:40,530 --> 00:31:42,719 Thomas Neuberger: it was a lot of fun. So I'm expecting him 603 00:31:42,719 --> 00:31:46,139 Thomas Neuberger: to be great. And then we've got Tyler from Endorphins 604 00:31:46,139 --> 00:31:51,150 Thomas Neuberger: Running, and Andrea from Mill City. So we're basically... All 605 00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:54,330 Thomas Neuberger: of us in our own way work with the running 606 00:31:54,330 --> 00:31:58,979 Thomas Neuberger: community and we all work a little bit differently, and 607 00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:01,830 Thomas Neuberger: I think it'll just be an interesting conversation about the 608 00:32:01,830 --> 00:32:04,409 Thomas Neuberger: trends in the running community. You were touching on it with 609 00:32:04,619 --> 00:32:08,400 Thomas Neuberger: run crews and that kind of stuff, and we were 610 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:11,910 Thomas Neuberger: talking about enrollments and races, and so we're going to 611 00:32:11,910 --> 00:32:13,830 Thomas Neuberger: cover some of that stuff. It should be a fun conversation. 612 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Meaghan Murray: Yeah. And then after that, we're hosting a party with a New Balance. 613 00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:20,340 Meaghan Murray: This is all going to be at Smack Mellon is 614 00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:24,059 Meaghan Murray: the venue in Brooklyn. And then the following morning, we're 615 00:32:24,059 --> 00:32:27,960 Meaghan Murray: hosting a shakeout run for the RBC Half, and anyone 616 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,450 Meaghan Murray: who wants to join us for about three miles on 617 00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:31,260 Meaghan Murray: Friday morning. 618 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,270 Thomas Neuberger: And our shakeout runs have been insane. I've actually- 619 00:32:33,270 --> 00:32:34,590 Meaghan Murray: Yeah, they're super fun. 620 00:32:34,650 --> 00:32:34,860 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. 621 00:32:36,059 --> 00:32:37,050 Becs Gentry: Always full to the brim. 622 00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:37,051 Thomas Neuberger: Yes. 623 00:32:37,051 --> 00:32:39,659 Meaghan Murray: Yes, yes. 624 00:32:39,689 --> 00:32:42,810 Becs Gentry: Okay. So talk to us, as you are the kit 625 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:48,480 Becs Gentry: king and queen here of advising everybody what to wear 626 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,009 Becs Gentry: on race day, how would you best advise our listeners 627 00:32:53,099 --> 00:32:57,330 Becs Gentry: to get themselves prepared kit- wise for the RBC Brooklyn Half? 628 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,800 Thomas Neuberger: Do we know the weather? 629 00:32:58,890 --> 00:33:01,110 Meaghan Murray: I think it's going to be high 50s, low 60s. 630 00:33:01,470 --> 00:33:02,910 Thomas Neuberger: That's pretty good. Any- 631 00:33:02,910 --> 00:33:03,511 Becs Gentry: Yeah, with a possible sprinkle. 632 00:33:03,511 --> 00:33:07,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: Good temps. Yeah, maybe a little rain, maybe not. We'll see. 633 00:33:08,639 --> 00:33:09,390 Thomas Neuberger: Rain never hurts. 634 00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:09,480 Becs Gentry: No. 635 00:33:09,809 --> 00:33:14,002 Thomas Neuberger: Unless you're chafing. But I mean, that's (inaudible) - 636 00:33:14,002 --> 00:33:14,003 Becs Gentry: Eh, yeah. Back to that Glide. 637 00:33:14,003 --> 00:33:14,004 Meaghan Murray: Yep, yep. There we go. Full circle. 638 00:33:14,004 --> 00:33:21,150 Thomas Neuberger: Yes, exactly. I mean, for me it would be probably singlet, 639 00:33:21,150 --> 00:33:24,030 Thomas Neuberger: shorts, easy, 13. 1 miles. 640 00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:29,099 Meaghan Murray: Yeah, I think it's always best to dress knowing you're 641 00:33:29,099 --> 00:33:31,229 Meaghan Murray: going to get warm because I feel like especially when 642 00:33:31,230 --> 00:33:33,089 Meaghan Murray: you first go out the door, you always want to 643 00:33:33,299 --> 00:33:36,090 Meaghan Murray: be comfortable, but you always want to be a little 644 00:33:36,090 --> 00:33:38,430 Meaghan Murray: cold when you first get out there so that once 645 00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:39,690 Meaghan Murray: you're out there racing- 646 00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:40,921 Thomas Neuberger: You'll heat up pretty quick. 647 00:33:40,921 --> 00:33:43,710 Meaghan Murray: ... and you're heated up, then you're actually comfortable in your singlet and shorts. 648 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,599 Meaghan Murray: And yeah, if it's raining, obviously we'd recommend maybe some tighter clothing to avoid 649 00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:52,469 Meaghan Murray: that chafing, and then yeah, nothing, don't do anything new 650 00:33:52,469 --> 00:33:52,919 Meaghan Murray: on race day. 651 00:33:53,729 --> 00:33:55,259 Thomas Neuberger: And a hat. I always like a hat. 652 00:33:56,129 --> 00:33:56,759 Becs Gentry: Yeah, we like a hat. 653 00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:01,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: I like a hat too when it rains because it just keeps the drops out of 654 00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:04,651 Rob Simmelkjaer: your eyes. Just a little protection. 655 00:34:04,651 --> 00:34:04,652 Thomas Neuberger: The sun. Yeah, everything. 656 00:34:04,652 --> 00:34:04,653 Meaghan Murray: Yeah. 657 00:34:04,653 --> 00:34:07,559 Becs Gentry: I know some people love sunglasses, but I'm like, "Do you have little windscreen wipers on 658 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,870 Becs Gentry: them?" Because every time I wear sunglasses in the rain, 659 00:34:09,870 --> 00:34:12,300 Becs Gentry: I'm just like, " No, this is terrible." 660 00:34:14,070 --> 00:34:14,430 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah, it doesn't work in the rain so much. 661 00:34:14,430 --> 00:34:15,239 Becs Gentry: It doesn't. You look cool. You look very cool. 662 00:34:16,410 --> 00:34:18,210 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah, I'm hoping there's not that much rain so when 663 00:34:18,210 --> 00:34:20,700 Thomas Neuberger: we get to Coney Island, we can enjoy the sunshine 664 00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:21,780 Thomas Neuberger: and the dogs and stuff. 665 00:34:23,130 --> 00:34:25,830 Becs Gentry: Oh, absolutely. Well, I think I love that you said 666 00:34:25,889 --> 00:34:30,089 Becs Gentry: dress to get warm because it's race day and most 667 00:34:30,089 --> 00:34:32,940 Becs Gentry: people are going to be going out and maybe challenging 668 00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:35,640 Becs Gentry: themselves an ounce more than they do on their normal 669 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,279 Becs Gentry: run, and nothing pains me more than when I see 670 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:44,790 Becs Gentry: people on race day totally overdressed in puffer jackets. I'm like, " 671 00:34:44,849 --> 00:34:46,919 Becs Gentry: Oh my goodness me. You probably could have got a 672 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,200 Becs Gentry: few seconds off your time if you'd have just taken 673 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,820 Becs Gentry: that little puffer off, please." 674 00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:53,700 Thomas Neuberger: So you're not tempted to go help them out? You're 675 00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:55,560 Thomas Neuberger: not tempted to be like, " Hey, just hide that behind 676 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,310 Thomas Neuberger: a tree or something?" 677 00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:58,620 Becs Gentry: Oh, no. Dude, seriously, the amount of times I have 678 00:34:58,620 --> 00:35:01,110 Becs Gentry: conversations in my head with people whilst I'm running next 679 00:35:01,110 --> 00:35:02,609 Becs Gentry: to them, I'm like, " Is it rude of me to 680 00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:06,839 Becs Gentry: just be like, 'Can we have a chat?'" And then I'm 681 00:35:06,839 --> 00:35:10,980 Becs Gentry: just like, " No, keep going." That sounds like such an incredible weekend. 682 00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:13,049 Becs Gentry: I'm sure all of your followers are going to have 683 00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:16,469 Becs Gentry: the best time with you, listening to you, running with you, 684 00:35:16,469 --> 00:35:21,030 Becs Gentry: and cheering for you, which is epic. I know I'll 685 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:23,969 Becs Gentry: be at the finish line cheering away, for sure, this weekend. 686 00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:24,180 Thomas Neuberger: Awesome. 687 00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:24,690 Meaghan Murray: Oh, nice. 688 00:35:25,140 --> 00:35:28,860 Becs Gentry: Well, we say that. I'm tempted. I'm a little tempted to run it now. 689 00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:29,431 Thomas Neuberger: Why not? 690 00:35:29,431 --> 00:35:30,870 Meaghan Murray: Oh, yeah. Come run it. 691 00:35:31,110 --> 00:35:31,111 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah! 692 00:35:31,111 --> 00:35:33,540 Becs Gentry: Yeah, yeah. I'm tempted. 693 00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:37,231 Thomas Neuberger: We'll get you a pair of these New Balance SC Elite v4s. 694 00:35:37,231 --> 00:35:37,232 Becs Gentry: You know what? 695 00:35:37,232 --> 00:35:39,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: Is that what you guys are running in? 696 00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:39,661 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. 697 00:35:39,661 --> 00:35:40,351 Meaghan Murray: Yeah. 698 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:40,890 Becs Gentry: I love them! 699 00:35:40,890 --> 00:35:41,819 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right. You've tested them out? 700 00:35:43,020 --> 00:35:44,160 Meaghan Murray: Yes, yeah. 701 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,219 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. 702 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: And? 703 00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:47,880 Meaghan Murray: We love them. So we wore these for the New 704 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,779 Meaghan Murray: York City Marathon this past year. Loved them. We had 705 00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:53,461 Meaghan Murray: some all- white prototypes, which were very cool. 706 00:35:53,461 --> 00:35:53,821 Becs Gentry: So cool. 707 00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:56,520 Meaghan Murray: But yeah, now we're going to wear the inline colorway, 708 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,070 Meaghan Murray: which is also pretty good- looking, so pretty excited about it. 709 00:35:59,070 --> 00:35:59,280 Becs Gentry: It's gorgeous. 710 00:36:00,750 --> 00:36:00,751 Meaghan Murray: Yeah. 711 00:36:00,751 --> 00:36:04,650 Becs Gentry: You know what? As somebody who has a wider foot, and 712 00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:07,260 Becs Gentry: I spread my toes wide when I run because that's 713 00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:10,590 Becs Gentry: how I've been coached from my whole career. This width 714 00:36:10,590 --> 00:36:15,389 Becs Gentry: at the front of the v4 Elites is my perfect 715 00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:19,080 Becs Gentry: shoe width. I'm in love with them. New Balance, I 716 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,609 Becs Gentry: can't take them off. I put the Rebels on for 717 00:36:20,610 --> 00:36:24,270 Becs Gentry: my slower, steadier runs and then whew, little bit of 718 00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:26,371 Becs Gentry: energy into the v4. Oh, they're divine. 719 00:36:26,371 --> 00:36:27,660 Thomas Neuberger: I like the Rebel. 720 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,250 Meaghan Murray: That's a good combo right there, yeah. 721 00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:31,919 Thomas Neuberger: Chris Chavez from Citius Mag, you guys probably know him, 722 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,029 Thomas Neuberger: he did his first sub- three- hour marathon and he 723 00:36:36,029 --> 00:36:36,120 Thomas Neuberger: was wearing these shoes. 724 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:36,121 Meaghan Murray: These shoes, yeah. 725 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,169 Thomas Neuberger: He did it in these shoes. 726 00:36:38,189 --> 00:36:40,169 Becs Gentry: I've spoken to a lot of people who are making 727 00:36:40,169 --> 00:36:40,679 Becs Gentry: PRs in them. 728 00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:44,070 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. It's not the lightest one on the market, but 729 00:36:44,070 --> 00:36:45,870 Thomas Neuberger: it has a really nice feel and I think it's the 730 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:48,330 Thomas Neuberger: most accessible one with the sizing and the fit. 731 00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:53,460 Meaghan Murray: And like you were talking about, Becs, the wide forefoot is key. 732 00:36:53,789 --> 00:36:54,059 Becs Gentry: Yeah. 733 00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:57,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm still stuck on the fact that Becs was coached to 734 00:36:57,870 --> 00:37:02,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: spread her toes apart while running. No one ever told 735 00:37:02,190 --> 00:37:05,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: me what to do with my toes when I ran. 736 00:37:05,730 --> 00:37:09,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: Clearly this is what I've been missing my entire life 737 00:37:09,089 --> 00:37:12,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: was I just ran. I didn't think about my toes 738 00:37:12,270 --> 00:37:13,441 Rob Simmelkjaer: at all, all this time. 739 00:37:13,441 --> 00:37:13,442 Thomas Neuberger: You don't remember the- 740 00:37:13,442 --> 00:37:14,002 Becs Gentry: I (inaudible) your feet. It's my thing in class. 741 00:37:14,002 --> 00:37:14,003 Thomas Neuberger: You don't remember the Vibram FiveFingers, Rob? 742 00:37:14,003 --> 00:37:14,004 Rob Simmelkjaer: No! 743 00:37:14,004 --> 00:37:14,005 Becs Gentry: No! 744 00:37:14,005 --> 00:37:14,006 Meaghan Murray: Oh, yeah. The toe shoes? 745 00:37:21,330 --> 00:37:22,979 Becs Gentry: I saw someone running in those yesterday. 746 00:37:23,370 --> 00:37:26,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh, the shoes that look like gloves where your toe 747 00:37:26,610 --> 00:37:27,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: has a little spot? 748 00:37:27,809 --> 00:37:27,929 Becs Gentry: Yes! 749 00:37:27,929 --> 00:37:27,930 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. 750 00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:30,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: You know, I have seen those and it blows my mind. 751 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: And actually, the one guy I know who runs in 752 00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:35,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: those is a guy who also runs a lot barefoot 753 00:37:35,850 --> 00:37:38,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: and that's a thing, right? Are you guys seeing a 754 00:37:38,549 --> 00:37:40,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: lot of that? That's not good for the shoe business, but are 755 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:40,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: you seeing a lot of that? 756 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,810 Thomas Neuberger: We saw after Born to Run came out back in... 757 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:46,651 Thomas Neuberger: I guess that was 2010 or '11. 758 00:37:46,651 --> 00:37:46,830 Becs Gentry: Yes, everybody. 759 00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:54,150 Thomas Neuberger: That's what kicked off the barefoot rage and Vibram FiveFingers. You had the Merrell Trail 760 00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:58,079 Thomas Neuberger: Gloves, you had Vivobarefoot, all those shoes came out. And 761 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:02,340 Thomas Neuberger: look, there's an argument to be made for strengthening your 762 00:38:02,340 --> 00:38:08,550 Thomas Neuberger: feet by being more natural, but we also didn't used 763 00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:12,239 Thomas Neuberger: to run a 100- mile weeks on pavement or 60- 764 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,609 Thomas Neuberger: mile weeks getting ready for a marathon on pavement. So 765 00:38:15,150 --> 00:38:17,940 Thomas Neuberger: I think the people that like it, that's fun for them 766 00:38:18,090 --> 00:38:20,729 Thomas Neuberger: and great, but for the rest of us... 767 00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:22,530 Meaghan Murray: We'll stick to our max- cushion shoes. 768 00:38:22,530 --> 00:38:22,800 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah, I like the benefit of cushion shoes. 769 00:38:29,969 --> 00:38:29,970 Becs Gentry: Yeah, polar opposite. I agree. 770 00:38:29,970 --> 00:38:29,971 Rob Simmelkjaer: 100%. 771 00:38:29,971 --> 00:38:33,750 Thomas Neuberger: They're also hideous. I'm sorry, I'm going to chime in here just on the visual look. 772 00:38:34,650 --> 00:38:37,079 Thomas Neuberger: Nobody looks good in those. I've never seen someone who's been like, " 773 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,899 Thomas Neuberger: Damn, that's a fly outfit he's got on. Look at 774 00:38:39,899 --> 00:38:42,328 Thomas Neuberger: those." Yeah. 775 00:38:43,379 --> 00:38:45,599 Becs Gentry: I got to agree. I've got to. The guy I 776 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:49,440 Becs Gentry: saw yesterday was running with his double stroller in them. 777 00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:51,720 Becs Gentry: I'm like, " Buddy, honestly"- 778 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:57,240 Thomas Neuberger: Like imagine you're on- 779 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,819 Becs Gentry: "... the foams and the plates are going to really help you with those two kids," because these shoes, he looked like he was sinking into the concrete with every step. 780 00:38:59,819 --> 00:39:02,189 Becs Gentry: I'm like, " Oh, the pain!" 781 00:39:02,189 --> 00:39:05,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: So I have to ask you guys, for those who don't know who are 782 00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:08,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: maybe hearing your voices for the first time, you are 783 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: married to each other. You did not just meet and 784 00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:15,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: become colleagues, you became husband and wife. How is that for you 785 00:39:15,929 --> 00:39:19,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: working together this way as a married couple doing a 786 00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:22,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: podcast? You're still doing it and I believe you're still 787 00:39:22,469 --> 00:39:29,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: married, so I guess it's working out okay. 788 00:39:29,220 --> 00:39:29,221 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. It's great for me. Maybe not for Meaghan so much. 789 00:39:29,221 --> 00:39:32,460 Meaghan Murray: No, it's kind of how we've always been. We've always 790 00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:36,660 Meaghan Murray: worked together and that's always worked really well and it 791 00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:38,580 Meaghan Murray: almost feels like it'd be weird now not to be 792 00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:41,370 Meaghan Murray: working together all the time just because that's our norm. 793 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:49,529 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. If you imagine that I couldn't do half the 794 00:39:49,530 --> 00:39:52,590 Thomas Neuberger: stuff without Meaghan, so it really is a yin and 795 00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:57,270 Thomas Neuberger: yang situation where my brain doesn't work the way hers 796 00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:58,381 Thomas Neuberger: does. I can't even say it. It's not working. 797 00:39:58,381 --> 00:40:03,841 Meaghan Murray: I'm very analytical, he's very creative. It's very... Yeah, we're opposites. 798 00:40:03,841 --> 00:40:06,840 Thomas Neuberger: And so it really is. I think part of the reason 799 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,870 Thomas Neuberger: I fell in love with Meaghan from the start was that 800 00:40:10,049 --> 00:40:12,419 Thomas Neuberger: I just felt like, " Oh, this is how easy life 801 00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:15,598 Thomas Neuberger: can be when you have somebody who has that other 802 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,820 Thomas Neuberger: side of what you're lacking." 803 00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:17,821 Becs Gentry: Aw, I love that. 804 00:40:17,821 --> 00:40:18,031 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah, it's been good. 805 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,160 Becs Gentry: Okay, so I really would love to talk more about 806 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,558 Becs Gentry: you two running together, you two reviewing together, but we'll 807 00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:33,390 Becs Gentry: save that for another podcast. As you are professional running 808 00:40:33,450 --> 00:40:35,969 Becs Gentry: reviewers and have been doing this for a really long time, 809 00:40:35,969 --> 00:40:38,459 Becs Gentry: and this is not your first race with us this 810 00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:43,349 Becs Gentry: weekend, can you give our listeners a full- on review 811 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,330 Becs Gentry: of the RBC Brooklyn Half? 812 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,561 Meaghan Murray: A full review? 813 00:40:46,561 --> 00:40:46,921 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah. 814 00:40:47,610 --> 00:40:51,450 Becs Gentry: Yeah. Just a little, not too in- depth, but let's 815 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,570 Becs Gentry: see it from your perspective. This weekend's coming up, what are 816 00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:55,290 Becs Gentry: we going to go do? 817 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,700 Meaghan Murray: Well, first of all, the main goal is always fun. 818 00:40:59,730 --> 00:41:02,250 Meaghan Murray: So that's key. We're going to have a great time. 819 00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:06,479 Meaghan Murray: I do remember last year, it starts out pretty compact 820 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,339 Meaghan Murray: in the beginning, so you definitely have to have some 821 00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:10,169 Meaghan Murray: patience like you should in every race and not go 822 00:41:10,169 --> 00:41:10,440 Meaghan Murray: out too fast. 823 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,390 Thomas Neuberger: But it also kind of goes downhill. I think, yeah, 824 00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:14,310 Thomas Neuberger: it's easy to go out a little too fast at 825 00:41:14,310 --> 00:41:14,640 Thomas Neuberger: this one. 826 00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:16,889 Meaghan Murray: Yeah, so I think patience is super important in the 827 00:41:16,889 --> 00:41:20,040 Meaghan Murray: beginning, whether you're stuck in a crowd or you're just 828 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,809 Meaghan Murray: holding back a little bit to leave some for the 829 00:41:21,809 --> 00:41:26,430 Meaghan Murray: end, and then having fun the whole 13 miles. 830 00:41:26,430 --> 00:41:29,219 Thomas Neuberger: Except not the whole 13 because we go into Prospect Park 831 00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,670 Thomas Neuberger: and there's a nice little hill you're going to want 832 00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:34,950 Thomas Neuberger: to save some energy for. What mile is that? 833 00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:36,331 Becs Gentry: Literally within the first- 834 00:41:36,331 --> 00:41:37,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's in the first few miles. 835 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:38,821 Becs Gentry: Yeah, before the first 5K mark. 836 00:41:38,821 --> 00:41:42,000 Thomas Neuberger: Okay. So you go into Prospect Park and you get a 837 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,620 Thomas Neuberger: nice... It is a- 838 00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:44,250 Meaghan Murray: It's pretty steep, yeah. 839 00:41:44,250 --> 00:41:48,330 Thomas Neuberger: It's a grinder and it's steep and it's long. Yeah, 840 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,400 Thomas Neuberger: I'm sure all the people who live in Brooklyn are 841 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,849 Thomas Neuberger: very familiar with that hill. So once you get past 842 00:41:53,849 --> 00:41:57,779 Thomas Neuberger: that, I think it's interesting. And then you get into 843 00:41:57,780 --> 00:42:01,710 Thomas Neuberger: that long stretch and it counts down by street so 844 00:42:01,710 --> 00:42:04,739 Thomas Neuberger: you can get an idea of where you are. Can 845 00:42:04,739 --> 00:42:07,860 Thomas Neuberger: you explain to me, Rob or Becs, how that works? 846 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,879 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, they're alphabetical. So the farther you are from the 847 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: ocean, the higher the letter, yeah. So as you're seeing those letters 848 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:18,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: go down, you're getting closer and closer to the Coney 849 00:42:18,330 --> 00:42:19,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: Island Boardwalk and the finish line. 850 00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:23,340 Thomas Neuberger: Do you do the whole alphabet? I feel like last year, I was a little dazed. 851 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's like a Brooklyn thing. In Manhattan, we do numbers, 852 00:42:28,349 --> 00:42:31,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: except in the Lower East Side, we've got letters over 853 00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:33,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: there. But yeah, they do letters in Brooklyn. 854 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,860 Thomas Neuberger: And that's where I started feeling the chafe. So make sure you do 855 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,860 Thomas Neuberger: put on... But you know what, the whatchamacallit? The medical tents were 856 00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:48,000 Thomas Neuberger: great. They had Vaseline waiting there with the little sticks 857 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,350 Thomas Neuberger: in it and you could find some relief there. Overall, 858 00:42:52,350 --> 00:42:56,040 Thomas Neuberger: the support of the race was great. You had plenty of 859 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,760 Thomas Neuberger: water, there's plenty of stops you, felt well taken care 860 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,339 Thomas Neuberger: of, and there were plenty of medical tents for those people 861 00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:05,490 Thomas Neuberger: who are not wearing enough Glide like I was. 862 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,429 Meaghan Murray: And then I'll always remember that you make that turn 863 00:43:08,429 --> 00:43:10,979 Meaghan Murray: onto the boardwalk at the finish there and there's just 864 00:43:10,980 --> 00:43:15,540 Meaghan Murray: people screaming and cheering and it's hard not to sprint 865 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:17,850 Meaghan Murray: to that finish line at the end there, which I 866 00:43:17,850 --> 00:43:19,379 Meaghan Murray: think everyone should be doing anyway. 867 00:43:20,070 --> 00:43:23,189 Thomas Neuberger: And we didn't do something right last year. We didn't 868 00:43:23,309 --> 00:43:27,120 Thomas Neuberger: figure out the public transportation back to Brooklyn. 869 00:43:27,810 --> 00:43:28,529 Meaghan Murray: Oh, yeah. 870 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,950 Thomas Neuberger: What are the options there when you finish the race? 871 00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:35,040 Thomas Neuberger: Because we stayed, we had a couple beverages. 872 00:43:35,130 --> 00:43:37,290 Becs Gentry: You can take the subway all the way back. 873 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, mass transit. The subway gets it done every time. 874 00:43:40,109 --> 00:43:42,929 Becs Gentry: Or just stay in Coney Island, have a hot dog 875 00:43:42,929 --> 00:43:45,569 Becs Gentry: and a margarita and see where the day takes you. 876 00:43:46,259 --> 00:43:46,440 Meaghan Murray: That sounds better, yeah. 877 00:43:46,439 --> 00:43:48,931 Thomas Neuberger: All right, you heard that from Becs, margaritas and hot dogs. 878 00:43:48,931 --> 00:43:49,468 Meaghan Murray: Yeah, yeah. 879 00:43:50,489 --> 00:43:51,239 Becs Gentry: Oh, I love that. Thank you. 880 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: Not until you've hung out at our party a little 881 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:56,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: bit and enjoyed that great party- 882 00:43:56,879 --> 00:43:58,380 Becs Gentry: Yeah, and been to our live show. 883 00:43:58,380 --> 00:44:00,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... at Maimonides Park and listened to the live show, the Set the 884 00:44:00,929 --> 00:44:02,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace Show with Becs and Ali on the Run. 885 00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:02,849 Meaghan Murray: Oh, yeah! 886 00:44:02,849 --> 00:44:02,998 Thomas Neuberger: Oh, Ali! 887 00:44:02,998 --> 00:44:06,719 Rob Simmelkjaer: So you're going to hang out, you're going to do all the things, and 888 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: then you'll find your way back to wherever you are staying. 889 00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:09,600 Becs Gentry: You will. 890 00:44:09,630 --> 00:44:13,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: And hey, so nice to have both of you on 891 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: Set the Pace. Again, your podcast is called The Drop. 892 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's the place to check out all the reviews and 893 00:44:19,530 --> 00:44:23,369 Rob Simmelkjaer: the great conversations you guys have. I'm all about Believe 894 00:44:23,369 --> 00:44:26,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the Run, your organization, and we're just psyched to 895 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: have you guys coming back up to Brooklyn, psyched to 896 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,069 Rob Simmelkjaer: see you out there this weekend. So have a great 897 00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:33,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: race and thanks for joining us. 898 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,139 Thomas Neuberger: Yeah, it was awesome. We love the New York Road Runners and what 899 00:44:37,139 --> 00:44:39,270 Thomas Neuberger: you guys are doing for the community and excited to 900 00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:41,399 Thomas Neuberger: be part of it, so thank you so much. 901 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:42,120 Meaghan Murray: Yeah, thank you. 902 00:44:42,510 --> 00:44:45,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right. Thank you, Thomas Neuberger and Meaghan Murray from 903 00:44:45,840 --> 00:45:02,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: Believe in the Run and The Drop. For this week's 904 00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:05,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: Member Moment, we're excited to have Michael Albeck joining us. 905 00:45:05,730 --> 00:45:08,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: Michael's going to be running this year's RBC Brooklyn Half, 906 00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:11,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: and running is a family affair for the Albeck family. His 907 00:45:11,969 --> 00:45:14,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: wife is a rising New York Road Runners program lead 908 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: and their son has run at the Millrose Games with 909 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: the program, and they were both honored at the New 910 00:45:20,610 --> 00:45:23,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: York Road Runners Youth Night, which took place this past 911 00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:24,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: week. Here's Meb. 912 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,560 Meb Keflezighi: Thanks, Rob and Becs. Michael, welcome to Set the Pace. 913 00:45:28,620 --> 00:45:31,650 Meb Keflezighi: To start off, we want to ask what we ask 914 00:45:31,650 --> 00:45:35,069 Meb Keflezighi: all our members. What inspires you to start running and 915 00:45:35,070 --> 00:45:36,268 Meb Keflezighi: what keeps you doing it? 916 00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:44,370 Michael Albeck: Well, hello. Thanks for having me. What inspired? Running's newer to 917 00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:46,650 Michael Albeck: me. I started during the pandemic like a lot of 918 00:45:46,650 --> 00:45:49,020 Michael Albeck: people, and it was kind of a coincidence that it 919 00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:54,989 Michael Albeck: was around that time, but I've just really enjoyed setting 920 00:45:54,989 --> 00:45:59,160 Michael Albeck: goals and accomplishing those goals and sometimes not accomplishing those 921 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,670 Michael Albeck: goals. And it's just, I think it's been good for 922 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:08,190 Michael Albeck: my health. I've lost a bunch of weight and it's 923 00:46:08,190 --> 00:46:09,989 Michael Albeck: been great for our family. It's something that we do 924 00:46:09,989 --> 00:46:13,020 Michael Albeck: as a family together as well. So I don't know, 925 00:46:13,469 --> 00:46:14,610 Michael Albeck: it's been a wonderful experience. 926 00:46:14,969 --> 00:46:17,790 Meb Keflezighi: As we mentioned, you are a family of runners. What 927 00:46:17,790 --> 00:46:21,029 Meb Keflezighi: benefit have you seen with having a household of runners? 928 00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:24,299 Meb Keflezighi: It's always good to talk or nutrition. What was that 929 00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:24,870 Meb Keflezighi: like for you? 930 00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:27,389 Michael Albeck: Yeah. I mean, we talk about all that stuff. I 931 00:46:27,389 --> 00:46:32,760 Michael Albeck: mean, hydration, nutrition. My son, he's 13 now. He's in eighth grade. He started 932 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,830 Michael Albeck: running in sixth grade. So it's been great taking him 933 00:46:37,830 --> 00:46:42,300 Michael Albeck: to races and cheering him on, cheering on his whole 934 00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:46,410 Michael Albeck: team, and he's had a wonderful coach that's gotten a 935 00:46:46,410 --> 00:46:48,510 Michael Albeck: lot of people into running that probably wouldn't normally get 936 00:46:48,510 --> 00:46:52,560 Michael Albeck: into running. But yeah, it's a constant discussion of who's 937 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,579 Michael Albeck: running with who this weekend or today, and who's getting 938 00:46:56,580 --> 00:47:00,780 Michael Albeck: out for a run, what distance you're doing. But yeah, 939 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,049 Michael Albeck: so it seems like it's a constant topic of conversation 940 00:47:04,049 --> 00:47:05,070 Michael Albeck: in the house these days. 941 00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:08,730 Meb Keflezighi: And your wife is a rising New Yorker Road Runners 942 00:47:08,730 --> 00:47:11,940 Meb Keflezighi: program leader. And how does that... I mean, that's pretty 943 00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:14,639 Meb Keflezighi: cool to have your son run and her being involved 944 00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:17,099 Meb Keflezighi: with the New York Road Runners, rising stars. 945 00:47:17,849 --> 00:47:21,869 Michael Albeck: Yeah. So like I said, my son, he started running 946 00:47:21,870 --> 00:47:24,000 Michael Albeck: with his middle school when he started going in sixth 947 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,660 Michael Albeck: grade. And as a coincidence, my wife also became a 948 00:47:27,660 --> 00:47:32,790 Michael Albeck: middle school teacher during that time, and at her school, 949 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,049 Michael Albeck: the main running coach there asked if she wanted to 950 00:47:37,049 --> 00:47:39,239 Michael Albeck: help out as well. So now she has a team 951 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,750 Michael Albeck: that is also going to the same event. So it's 952 00:47:42,750 --> 00:47:45,510 Michael Albeck: great if there's a during- school event that she can 953 00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:47,880 Michael Albeck: actually go to that event and see our son run 954 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,601 Michael Albeck: as well as helping out with her team as well. 955 00:47:51,601 --> 00:47:54,599 Meb Keflezighi: Well, I mean, your wife and you have been part of the 956 00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:57,870 Meb Keflezighi: sport. What is that like to see the next generation 957 00:47:57,870 --> 00:47:59,729 Meb Keflezighi: take up the support that you are involved in? 958 00:48:02,219 --> 00:48:05,250 Michael Albeck: It's great. I mean, I think these Rising Runners events, 959 00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:09,059 Michael Albeck: it's great to see so many young kids getting excited 960 00:48:09,059 --> 00:48:14,340 Michael Albeck: to run and they start them with... There's no time 961 00:48:14,340 --> 00:48:16,709 Michael Albeck: or anything, it's just exciting to get out there. They 962 00:48:16,709 --> 00:48:19,950 Michael Albeck: get some sort of gift, like a hat or a running 963 00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:22,739 Michael Albeck: belt or something, and then they get a medal when they 964 00:48:22,739 --> 00:48:27,630 Michael Albeck: finish. So I think it's exciting to see people being 965 00:48:27,630 --> 00:48:31,170 Michael Albeck: excited about a sport that's very accessible to many people. 966 00:48:31,889 --> 00:48:33,330 Michael Albeck: So yeah, it's exciting to see. 967 00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:36,960 Meb Keflezighi: How has that been interaction for you? They always want 968 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,600 Meb Keflezighi: to sprint, no matter what the distance is, whether it's 200- 969 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,200 Meb Keflezighi: meter or 400- meter or a mile. What is that like 970 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,300 Meb Keflezighi: to be able to interact with them? 971 00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:51,449 Michael Albeck: Yeah. I guess a lot of the younger kids, since 972 00:48:51,450 --> 00:48:54,780 Michael Albeck: I'm not a coach myself, I deal with my son 973 00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,180 Michael Albeck: or try to help with him, and sometimes it's almost 974 00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:01,950 Michael Albeck: the opposite. I feel like he still has gas in 975 00:49:01,950 --> 00:49:04,079 Michael Albeck: the tank when I feel like he should be pushing 976 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:09,719 Michael Albeck: a little bit harder. I mean, yeah, I think there's 977 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,789 Michael Albeck: times when he could be pushing a little bit harder, 978 00:49:11,789 --> 00:49:15,000 Michael Albeck: so trying to get him to manage that in some 979 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,210 Michael Albeck: way has been interesting. 980 00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:23,430 Meb Keflezighi: Well, looking ahead, you are taking on the RBC Brooklyn Half. 981 00:49:23,550 --> 00:49:25,440 Meb Keflezighi: Any big goals for that race? 982 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:31,710 Michael Albeck: I don't think so. The last six months, I was 983 00:49:31,710 --> 00:49:35,790 Michael Albeck: battling a little bit of injury, like a calf strain 984 00:49:35,790 --> 00:49:38,549 Michael Albeck: and one of my hips isn't great. I had a 985 00:49:38,550 --> 00:49:41,429 Michael Albeck: great year last year with some PRs that I was 986 00:49:41,429 --> 00:49:44,219 Michael Albeck: very excited about, and so I don't necessarily feel like 987 00:49:44,219 --> 00:49:46,380 Michael Albeck: I'm going to have a PR in this race. But 988 00:49:46,739 --> 00:49:50,670 Michael Albeck: I think especially this weekend, I had a couple races, 989 00:49:50,670 --> 00:49:52,680 Michael Albeck: I ran a couple times this weekend and one was a 990 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,770 Michael Albeck: 5K race and I felt pretty darn good. So I 991 00:49:55,770 --> 00:50:00,270 Michael Albeck: feel excited that my body feels pretty good. Like I 992 00:50:00,270 --> 00:50:02,130 Michael Albeck: said, I don't think I'll be setting a PR, but 993 00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:04,859 Michael Albeck: I look forward to doing this race because it's one 994 00:50:04,859 --> 00:50:06,690 Michael Albeck: that I haven't done before. I'm going to have a 995 00:50:06,690 --> 00:50:10,020 Michael Albeck: lot of friends that are out there as well. And 996 00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:12,090 Michael Albeck: finishing in Coney Island just sounds like such a cool 997 00:50:12,090 --> 00:50:14,819 Michael Albeck: place to finish and maybe have a drink if the 998 00:50:14,820 --> 00:50:16,590 Michael Albeck: weather's decent once we finish up. 999 00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:20,279 Meb Keflezighi: You know Michael, it's not about PRs all the time, 1000 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,619 Meb Keflezighi: it's all about getting to that finish line and especially when 1001 00:50:22,619 --> 00:50:24,420 Meb Keflezighi: you're coming from injury, you don't take things for granted. 1002 00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:26,130 Meb Keflezighi: You're just going to be happy that you are running. 1003 00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:26,970 Michael Albeck: Yeah, yeah. 1004 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:28,529 Meb Keflezighi: So look forward to seeing you on the starting line. 1005 00:50:28,890 --> 00:50:29,940 Michael Albeck: All right, appreciate it. 1006 00:50:30,660 --> 00:50:32,160 Meb Keflezighi: Well, Michael, thanks for being with us. 1007 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,080 Michael Albeck: All right, thanks. Nice meeting you. 1008 00:50:34,469 --> 00:50:34,949 Meb Keflezighi: Likewise. 1009 00:50:35,460 --> 00:50:37,349 Rob Simmelkjaer: Thank you so much, Michael, for joining us and for 1010 00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:39,779 Rob Simmelkjaer: being a member of New York Road Runners. Now, it's 1011 00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:41,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: time for the Meb Minutes. 1012 00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:45,060 Meb Keflezighi: This week's Meb Minutes is to get familiarized on a 1013 00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:48,090 Meb Keflezighi: new course, whether you run a half- marathon or full- marathon, 1014 00:50:48,090 --> 00:50:51,210 Meb Keflezighi: it is very important to know where you are. For 1015 00:50:51,210 --> 00:50:53,549 Meb Keflezighi: me, when I did the New York City Marathon, I 1016 00:50:53,550 --> 00:50:55,349 Meb Keflezighi: could not run the whole course, so I just did 1017 00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:58,589 Meb Keflezighi: the last 10 miles of the course just to be 1018 00:50:58,590 --> 00:51:00,989 Meb Keflezighi: aware what it looks like, where the hills are, where 1019 00:51:00,989 --> 00:51:04,140 Meb Keflezighi: the downhills are, and obviously the most important thing, to finish. 1020 00:51:04,140 --> 00:51:07,410 Meb Keflezighi: So as you get ready for the Brooklyn Half- Marathon, it 1021 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,589 Meb Keflezighi: is a good idea to run it or drive it, 1022 00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:13,679 Meb Keflezighi: or at least be familiar in the last two miles 1023 00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:16,349 Meb Keflezighi: because you want to take advantage of what the course 1024 00:51:16,350 --> 00:51:20,430 Meb Keflezighi: is like, especially with Prospect Park or the downhills and 1025 00:51:20,430 --> 00:51:22,890 Meb Keflezighi: when to finish. So for me, it is a good 1026 00:51:22,890 --> 00:51:25,200 Meb Keflezighi: idea to be able to... Even you can Google it 1027 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,290 Meb Keflezighi: or you can YouTube it from previous races. So as 1028 00:51:28,290 --> 00:51:30,059 Meb Keflezighi: the more you know about the course, the more your 1029 00:51:30,059 --> 00:51:31,649 Meb Keflezighi: preparation is going to be and you're going to have a 1030 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,960 Meb Keflezighi: good execution on race day. 1031 00:51:34,619 --> 00:51:36,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: And that does it for another episode of Set the 1032 00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:40,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace. Thank you so much to Thomas Neuberger and Meaghan 1033 00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:42,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: Murray of Believe in the Run, and to New York 1034 00:51:42,930 --> 00:51:46,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: Road Runners member Michael Albeck. Again, best of luck to 1035 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: everybody running this weekend at the RBC Brooklyn Half. And 1036 00:51:49,590 --> 00:51:52,799 Rob Simmelkjaer: remember, if you liked this episode, please go ahead subscribe, 1037 00:51:52,799 --> 00:51:56,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: rate, leave a comment for the show wherever you're listening. 1038 00:51:56,430 --> 00:51:59,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: Those reviews really help us and helps others find the 1039 00:51:59,489 --> 00:52:02,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: show as well. We'll see you next week. Enjoy the miles.