WEBVTT - How the 2026 United Airlines NYC Half Champions Conquered the Course

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Hey  everybody.  I'm  Olympian  Carrie  Tollefson  alongside  Kyle  Merber,  and 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>we  are  so  excited  to  have  the  post- race  interviews 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>on  Set  the  Pace  Podcast.  And  also  today  we're  just 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>celebrating  this  awesome  event  that  we  had.  The  United  Airlines 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>NYC  have 30, 000  people  through  the  streets  of  New  York. 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Kyle,  you  live  right  here.  You  know  how  big  of 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>a  deal  it  is.

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<v Kyle Merber>I  mean,  if  you're going  to  come  up  and  get  early 

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<v Kyle Merber>in  the  morning,  you  might  as  well have  a  shutdown  Time 

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<v Kyle Merber>Square  to  run  through.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Exactly.

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<v Kyle Merber>That's the best way to do it.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Go  over  Brooklyn  Bridge,  do  all  the  cool  things.

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<v Kyle Merber>I mean,  the  thing  I  just  love  about  this  course  and 

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<v Kyle Merber>this  version  of  it  is  you  really  just  see  the 

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<v Kyle Merber>whole  city.  And  everyone's  out  watching.  We  had,  I  would 

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<v Kyle Merber>say  solid  weather  today.  We  could  deal  with  it.  Some 

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<v Kyle Merber>fans  out  there.  There  was  no  rain,  which  I  think 

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<v Kyle Merber>in  March  in  New  York  we're  going  to  take  as 

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<v Kyle Merber>a  big  win.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah,  it  was  chilly.  There  was  some  wind.  A  lot 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>of  people  said  the  FDR,  there  was  wind,  but  they 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>were  pretty  pleased  with  it.  I  think  a  lot  of 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>people  were  wondering  if  Harry  Styles  was  out  there  like 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>incognito,  but  we  didn't  see  him.

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<v Kyle Merber>Yeah.  I  mean, he might've  been  in  that  front  pack.  It  sounds 

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<v Kyle Merber>like  things  are  going  quite  well  with  his  training  these 

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<v Kyle Merber>days.  But  no,  I  mean,  it  was  really  great  races. 

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<v Kyle Merber>And  the  thing  that  I  love  about  the  New  York 

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<v Kyle Merber>Half  and  the  New  York  Full  is  it's  racing.  It 

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<v Kyle Merber>is  not  about  the  clock  here.  It  is  about  beating 

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<v Kyle Merber>the  other  people  on  the  course.  And  I  think  particularly 

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<v Kyle Merber>in  that  men's  race,  we  saw  that  it  was  a 

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<v Kyle Merber>true  race.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah,  huge  pack  all  the  way  until  we saw Adriaan Wildschutt.  We're  going 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>to  figure  out  exactly  how  to  say  his  name.  I 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>say Wildschutt,  but  you  don't.

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<v Kyle Merber>I  say Wildschutt, but he's going to correct us.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah,  exactly.  We  can't  wait,  but  what  an  awesome  race 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>there.  Then  an  event  record  by  Hellen  Obiri.  She's  in 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>the  house.  But  we're  going  to  kick  off  the  podcast 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>with  our  two  wheelchair  champions.  So  let's  bring  on  in 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Daniel  Romanchuk.

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<v Kyle Merber>A  huge  welcome  back  to  the  scene.  We  believe  that 

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<v Kyle Merber>this  is  your  third  title  now,  Daniel.  So  congratulations.  We're 

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<v Kyle Merber>only  a  few  hours  after  the  race.  How's  it  feel?

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Oh,  thank  you.  It's  great  to  be  here.  Really  great 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>to  be  back  in  New  York.  Actually,  both  my  sister 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>and  brother- in- law  also  ran  today.  So it's  just  amazing 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>to  be  back  on  the  start  line  because  about  six 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>months  ago  I  had  an  injury  that  I  didn't  know 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>whether  I  would  be  back  on  the  start  line  at  all.

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<v Kyle Merber>Yeah.  I  guess  for  those  who  maybe  aren't  familiar  with 

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<v Kyle Merber>the  story,  can  you  give  a  brief  oversight  of  what 

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<v Kyle Merber>exactly  happened?  And  I  guess,  does  that  change  your  perspective 

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<v Kyle Merber>now  when  you're  racing  again?

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Certainly.  Again,  just  thankful  to  be  back  on  the  start 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>line  again.  And  so  yeah,  I  was  in  the  Sydney 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Marathon  and  a  pedestrian  crossed  the  course  right  in  front 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>of  me.  I  ended  up  crashing,  dislocating  and  fracturing  my 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>shoulder.  But  again,  really  just  thankful  to  be  back.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Daniel,  before  we  get  into  your  post- race  interview,  which 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>was  quite  emotional,  and  you  could  see  being  away  from 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>the  sport  has  been  hard,  and  it  is  for  all 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>of  us  athletes.  But  walk  us  through  your  race  a 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>little  bit,  because  you  weren't  off  the  line  first.  There 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>were  quite  a  few  of  you  in  the  very  beginning 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>stages,  but  man,  you  won  by  a  large  margin  and 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>looked  so  good.  So  tell  us  about  your race.

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Yeah.  So  beautiful  weather  conditions  this  morning,  nice  and  dry.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah.

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>And  so  getting  off  the start's  a  pretty  big  pack  of 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>us.  It's  a  pretty  big  downhill  at  first.  And  really 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>that  we  stayed  as  a  pretty  big  pack  all  the 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>way  up  Flatbush,  back  down  Flatbush,  into  Prospect  Park.  And 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>then  during  one  of  the  climbs  in  Prospect  Park,  I 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>decided  to  try  and  break  away  a  little  bit  and 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>wasn't  sure  whether  that  would  be  my  final  breakaway  or 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>if  I'd  get  back  into  the  pack  or  not.  But 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>I  created  a  little  bit  of  distance  and  said, " I'll 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>see...  How  long  can  I  hold  this?"  And  just  was 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>able  to  hold  it  the  whole  way,  thankfully.

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<v Kyle Merber>Given  the  break,  did  that  play  into  your  mindset  today 

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<v Kyle Merber>from  a  strategy  standpoint?  Let's  start  out  a  little  bit 

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<v Kyle Merber>more  conservative,  see  what  we're  like?  How's  the  fitness,  I 

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<v Kyle Merber>guess,  in  training  been?  And  how  has  that  played  into 

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<v Kyle Merber>the  way  that  you  actually  attack  the  race?

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Yeah. Here at  the  United  Airlines NYC  Half  is  really  one  of  our 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>first  races  of  the  season.  And  so  it's a  really  great 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>way  to  kind  of  see  how  winter  training  went.  And 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>so  I've  been  on  rollers  all  winter  except  for  the 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>last  month.  I've  been  down  in  Florida  getting  some  road 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>time  in  before  the  season,  but  I  was  all  alone. 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>And  so I  really  wasn't  sure  what  to  expect.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>What  do  you  think  is  different  though?  I  mean,  coming 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>back  from  an  injury,  we're  always  a  little  bit  different. 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>So  what  did  you  do  while  you  were  rehabbing  that 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>maybe  has  now  made  you  an  even  better  athlete?

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Oh,  hard  to  say.  It's  really  hard  to  say.  I 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>think  just  a  general  mindset  of  while  I've  been  through 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>things  is  just  to  try  to  focus  on  things  one 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>day  at  a  time,  not  get  worked  up  with  trying 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>to  look  at  the  big  picture  and  just  focus  on 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>one  thing  at  a  time,  one  day,  what  can  I 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>do  today  to  build  towards  the  future?

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<v Kyle Merber>Now,  coming  a  few  hours  after  the  race,  how  does 

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<v Kyle Merber>the  body  feel  after  that  sort  of  effort?  Are  you 

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<v Kyle Merber>recovering  well?  And  what  do  you  do  between  now  and 

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<v Kyle Merber>the  next  one  to  really  get  ready?  What  do  you 

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<v Kyle Merber>take  away  with  it?

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Yes,  certainly  I'm  heading  back  home  to  Champaign,  Illinois  and 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>going  to  start  training  with  the  team  again.  And  so 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>really  just  rest  and  fuel  to  recover.  Yeah,  get  ready 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>for  the  next  race.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>We  know  you  said  you  had  family  here,  your  wife's 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>here,  your  mom  and  dad  are  here,  your  sister,  brother- in-

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<v Carrie Tollefson>law,  but  there  was  emotion.  And  I  want  to  talk 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>a  little  bit  about  that  because  Sam  Ryan  was  with 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>you  on  ABC  and  I  mean,  it  was  really,  really 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>cool  to  see  how  much  you  missed  it.  And  I 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>think  Kyle and  I  miss  it  a  lot.  We're  old  and 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>slow  now.  So  tell  us  a  little  bit  about  that 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>and  then  getting  ready  for  Boston  next.

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Yeah.  And  so  certainly  just  with  the injury and  the  uncertainty  of 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>how  racing  would  go  in  the  future,  there's  been  a 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>lot  of  uncertainty  and  really,  again,  just  thankful  to  God 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>for  the  opportunity  to  line  back  up  on  the  start 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>line  with  all  the  other  racers  that  I've  gotten  to 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>know  over  the  years  of  racing  and  you're  really  thankful 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>to  have  a  large  amount  of  family  here  as  well 

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>to  watch.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Do  you  go  party?  Do  you  go  do  anything  fun 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>tonight,  Daniel?

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>We'll  see.  I  don't  know  yet.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Well, we  really  appreciate  it  and  we're  so  excited.  I  was 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>equally  as  emotional.  I  said  off  the  front,  of  the 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>top  of  the  show  this  morning,  we  can't  root  for 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>anybody  in  the  media.  But  I  said,  I  am  so 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>thankful  to  see  the  guy  in  red  back  and  we 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>are  really  excited  for  you  and  good  luck  in  Boston 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>and  beyond.

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Thank  you.

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<v Kyle Merber>Thanks so much.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>All  right.  So  now  we  are  going  to  bring  in 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>our  women's  wheelchair  athlete,  but  I  mean,  isn't  Daniel  just 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>awesome?  He's  still  right by us but you know?

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<v Kyle Merber>I have  so  many  questions  that  I  wanted  to ask about-

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<v Carrie Tollefson>I know.

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<v Kyle Merber>- I  guess  the  unknown,  the  technical  side  of  the 

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<v Kyle Merber>sport. And  I  guess,  fortunately  we  have  another  athlete  that  we can pick her brain-

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah.  But  also  I  think  what  is  interesting  about  with 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Daniel  is  when  they  were  racing  in  Sydney,  for  him 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>to  have  that  collision  with  someone  from  the  sidelines,  that's 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>a  huge  thing  that  he  went  through  to...  It  wasn't 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>him  that  caused  the  injury.  It  was  someone  else  and 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>just  a  kind  of  a  happenstance  situation.

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<v Kyle Merber>It  always  makes  you  appreciate  every  start  line  that  you 

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<v Kyle Merber>make  it  to,  but  then  after  something  like  that,  a 

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<v Kyle Merber>little  bit  extra.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah,  for  sure.  Okay.  Well,  we  have  our  women's  champion 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>today  from  the  United  Airlines NYC  Half,  Eden  Rainbow- Cooper.  Welcome.

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Thank  you  so  much.  Thank  you for having me.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>I mean,  congratulations.  This  is a  big  win.

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Yeah,  I'm  over  the  moon  with  it.  I'm so excited to have won here.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah.  You've  had  such  a  phenomenal  2025.  I  mean, I  went 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>on  air  today,  I  went  through  all  of  your  stats 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>and  it  was  like  second  year,  fourth  year,  fifth  year, 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>whatever.  I  mean,  just  boom,  boom,  boom,  right  there.  And 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>you  said  you  went  home  and  after  2025,  which  wasn't 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>too  far  ago,  too  far too  long  ago,  you  said, " I 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>need  to  do  something  different.  I  need  to  put  myself 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>in  a  different  situation."  And  today  you  did.  So  tell 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>us  about  your  race.

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Yeah.  I  mean,  I  was  up  against  Tatiana  and  she 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>is  an  absolute  beast.  So  I  knew  from  the  gun 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>that  my  way  to  get  aways  is  go  fast  downhill. 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>That's  my  strength  and  hope  that  I  can  get  a 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>lead  and  maintain  a  lead.  And  yeah,  I  was  able 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>to  do  that and I  really,  really  surprised  myself  today.  This  is 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>a  hard  course  and  it's  not  always  about  the  time, 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>but 54  minutes  here  in  a  women's  race,  that's  a  pretty 

0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.890
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>fast  time.  So  yeah,  I'm  over  the  moon  with  it.

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<v Kyle Merber>You  ended  up  winning  by  six  minutes,  at  which  point...

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Six  minutes.

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<v Kyle Merber>At  which  point  in  there,  did  you  find  a  shortcut? 

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<v Kyle Merber>No.  At  what  point  in  that  race  did  you  go, "

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<v Kyle Merber>Oh,  I'm  going  to  win this?"  When  did  you  know?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>When  I  saw  the  finish  line.

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<v Kyle Merber>That  late  into  the  race?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Yeah.  It's  really  difficult in wheelchair racing  to  see  who's  behind  you.  And 

0:09:45.450 --> 0:09:47.850
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I  was  mixed  up  with  some  of  the  men.  So 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>every  time  I  looked  around,  there  was  someone  lurking  and 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I  never  know  if  that's  a  man  or  a  woman 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>or  a  hand  bike  or  anything.  So  every  race  I 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>go  to,  it's  only  when  I  get  across  the  finish that 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I  can  really  go,  wow,  okay,  now  I  can  take 

0:10:02.309 --> 0:10:04.230
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>in  where  I  am  and  I  can  accept  it.  I 

0:10:04.230 --> 0:10:08.250
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>had  a  moment  around  halfway.  I  thought,  maybe  I  can 

0:10:08.250 --> 0:10:10.290
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>do  this,  but  for  me,  it's  really  important  to  shut 

0:10:10.290 --> 0:10:12.420
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>that  down  and  not  get  complacent  with  where I am.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Tell  us  a  little  bit  about  your  training  and  maybe 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>it  hasn't  changed.  Maybe  it's  just  the  mindset  that  has 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>changed,  but  what  makes  you  now  believe  that  you  deserve 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>to  be  the  one  breaking  the  tape,  not  just  being 

0:10:24.510 --> 0:10:26.069
<v Carrie Tollefson>close  to  it,  but  breaking  it?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I  think  it's  a  strange  feeling  for  me  because  I 

0:10:30.870 --> 0:10:33.660
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>have  spent  the  last  three  years  racing  against  these  incredible 

0:10:33.660 --> 0:10:35.850
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>women  that  have  been  my  idols  since  I  first  started 

0:10:35.850 --> 0:10:39.839
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>wheelchair  racing.  And  I  still  have  those  little  fan  girl 

0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.689
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>moments  and  sort  of  go, " Oh  my  gosh,  I'm  on 

0:10:42.689 --> 0:10:46.440
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>the  stand.  It's  Tatiana..."  And  it's  only  this  year  that 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I  kind  of  feel  like  I  can  really  compete  with 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>them.  And  most  of  that  is  just  experience,  maybe  sort 

0:10:54.330 --> 0:10:58.590
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>of  getting  a  little  bit  older,  just  taking  it  as 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>it  comes.  But  in  terms  of  training,  not  much  has 

0:11:01.110 --> 0:11:04.949
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>changed.  I've  just  got  this  newfound  sort  of  confidence  in 

0:11:04.950 --> 0:11:08.550
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>myself  and  yeah,  I'm  ready  to  go  and  push  the 

0:11:08.550 --> 0:11:10.200
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>limits  and  find  out  what  I  can  do.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Was  it  2024  Boston  that  you  won?  And  I  remember 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>afterwards  you  didn't  have  a  sponsor  at  the  time.  Tell 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>us  the  status  of  that  now  and  has  life  changed 

0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:22.080
<v Carrie Tollefson>since  Boston?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>No,  not  really.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Oh,  come  on.

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I'm  still  unsponsored.  I'm  lucky  that  I  have  a  wonderful 

0:11:29.790 --> 0:11:33.000
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>charity  that's  been  supporting  me,  Get  Kids  Going!  So  I've 

0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.300
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>had  some  help  from  them,  but  I'm  still  working,  I'm 

0:11:36.300 --> 0:11:42.449
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>still  training  and  doing  it  all  myself.  Yeah.  So  yeah.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>When  you  say  working,  what  are  you  doing?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I'm  a  digital  marketer  for  a  big  construction  company in  the 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>UK.  So  I  wake  up,  I  train,  go  to  work, 

0:11:51.690 --> 0:11:53.880
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>train  again,  then  repeat  every  day.

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<v Kyle Merber>Does  that  give  you  a  little  bit  of  balance  that 

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<v Kyle Merber>you're  not  only  competing  and  training  and  having  something  else 

0:11:59.550 --> 0:11:59.730
<v Kyle Merber>in  life?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>For  sure.  I  think  I'm  only 24,  so  it's  really  important 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>for  me  to  not  put  everything  into  sport.  I  think 

0:12:07.230 --> 0:12:09.929
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>just  from  a  mental  health  perspective,  to  have  something  that 

0:12:09.929 --> 0:12:12.929
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I  can  come  away  from  for  a  few  hours  and  go, "

0:12:13.230 --> 0:12:16.770
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Okay,  this  is  a  completely  different  world,"  is  really,  really 

0:12:16.770 --> 0:12:17.400
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>helpful  to  me.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Eden,  do  you  feel  like  you're  just  getting  started?  I 

0:12:19.650 --> 0:12:22.080
<v Carrie Tollefson>mean,  we've  seen  you  now  for  the  last  few  years, 

0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.829
<v Carrie Tollefson>but  you  look  at  your  shipper  who  was,  again,  in 

0:12:25.830 --> 0:12:28.230
<v Carrie Tollefson>this  race  and  did  great  and  he's  won  this  race 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>twice.  He's  my  age.  He's  like  49  years  old.  Just 

0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.339
<v Carrie Tollefson>told  the  whole  world  how  old  I'm  getting,  but  he's 

0:12:35.340 --> 0:12:38.309
<v Carrie Tollefson>still  in  it  and  you're  just  starting.  So  do  you 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>feel  like  you  have a  long  time  still  to  get  going 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>here  and  to  hopefully  crack  some  more  tapes?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Absolutely.  I  think  what  we're  learning  about  wheelchair  racing,  especially 

0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.360
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>in  the  road  races,  with  age  comes  a lot  more  experience and a lot 

0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:55.830
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>more  speed.  We've  got  so  many  people  breaking  records  everywhere 

0:12:56.190 --> 0:13:00.570
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>that are  sort  of  in  their  late  30s,  40s.  So  yeah, 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>for  me,  I  really  hope  that  my  career  can  span 

0:13:03.179 --> 0:13:05.340
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>another  20  years,  but  just  will  take it as it comes.

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<v Kyle Merber>We  know  that  you  obviously  have  the  speed.  Talk  about 

0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.829
<v Kyle Merber>that  half  distance.  What  do  you  take  away  from  the 

0:13:10.830 --> 0:13:14.820
<v Kyle Merber>half?  Is  it  your  favorite  distance  right  now?  What do  you 

0:13:14.820 --> 0:13:16.470
<v Kyle Merber>take  away  from  the  experience  and  what  are  you  learning 

0:13:16.470 --> 0:13:16.980
<v Kyle Merber>from  today?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Yeah, I really like a half. For  me  in  my  head,  I  go, " Ooh,  a  half's 

0:13:22.740 --> 0:13:25.050
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>not  too  long.  It's  only  an  hour."  So  I  can 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>really  just  push  my  body  to  the  absolute  limit,  like 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>max  heart  rate  the  whole  way.  Yeah. And  today  out  there, 

0:13:32.490 --> 0:13:34.709
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I  felt  really,  really  good.  And  I  thought, " Do  you 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>know  what?  I'm  happy  to  push  as  hard  as  I 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>can.  And  if  I  die  at  20K  and  everyone  overtakes 

0:13:40.050 --> 0:13:42.510
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>me,  so  be  it. I  just  want  to  find  out  what's 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>possible."  And  the  half  is a  really  good  place  to  do  that.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>So  we  talk  so  much  about  times  with  us,  runners 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>that  are  in  the  half- marathon,  but  I  don't  see 

0:13:51.090 --> 0:13:53.610
<v Carrie Tollefson>that  you  guys  talk  a  lot  about  times  in  the 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>wheelchair  event.  So  do  you  have  metrics  that  you  wear? 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Are  you  comparing  that  or  is  it  just  straight  up 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>like,  which  I  love,  all  about  the  win?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>It  depends  on  your  goal,  but  I  will  say  that for us, our 

0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.690
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>times  depends  so  much  on  the  weather.  There  could  be 

0:14:09.690 --> 0:14:15.030
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>the  difference  in a half of  10  minutes  from  year  to  year. So I think for a lot  of 

0:14:15.030 --> 0:14:17.520
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>us,  time  isn't  the  only  indicator  of  how  well  a 

0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.600
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>race  is going.  It  can  be  so  many  different  things.  For 

0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.970
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>me  today,  my  only  goal  was  to  have  some  good 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>uphills. So that  for  me  was  like  my  main  thing.  And  other 

0:14:28.050 --> 0:14:30.720
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>people,  it  might  be  to  improve  their  cornering,  but  yeah, 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I  think  times  for  us  don't  mean  as  much  maybe 

0:14:33.570 --> 0:14:34.231
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>as  they  do  to  months.

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<v Daniel Romanchuk>Do you fuel in a half?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Yeah,  it  depends,  but  so I tend to do a lot of pre-fueling, so  I  take  like  a  pickle 

0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:42.090
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>shot  before-

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Oh,  okay.

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<v Kyle Merber>Not  a  pickle  backshot.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Maybe  after.

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Because  for  me,  that  really  helps  with  hydration  and  cramping. 

0:14:53.550 --> 0:14:57.480
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>And  then  during  the  race,  just  carbs,  carb  drink.  It's 

0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.810
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>difficult  though  because  we  have  to  carry  everything  ourselves.  And 

0:15:00.810 --> 0:15:03.150
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>if  we  drop  something  like  that,  that's  gone,  we  can't 

0:15:03.150 --> 0:15:07.080
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>get  it  back.  So  it's  really  important  that we  make  sure 

0:15:07.380 --> 0:15:09.480
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>we  have  enough  fluid,  but  we're  not  taking  too  much 

0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.600
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>because  of  extra  weight.  So  yeah,  it's  a  little  bit 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>more  complicated  for  us  than  it  seems.

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<v Kyle Merber>I  feel  very  fortunate  to  have  this  opportunity  to  ask 

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<v Kyle Merber>some  questions.  Can  I  nerd  out  a  little  bit?

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yes.

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<v Kyle Merber>What is your warmup  like  for  you?  How  do  you  get  to  the 

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<v Kyle Merber>start  line?  What's  going  on  beforehand  besides  just  drinking  pickle  juice?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I'm  going  to  be  known  for  that  now.

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<v Kyle Merber>Yeah.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>I  know.

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>So  for  me,  I  do  a  lot  of  stretching beforehand, just because we are condensed in those chairs.  I 

0:15:34.770 --> 0:15:36.990
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>don't  know  if  you've  ever  tried  kneeling  and  putting  your 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>back  down  for  an  hour  or  two  hours,  but  it's 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>not  comfortable.  So  that's  a  big  part  for  me.  And 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>then  I  like  to  have  a  long  warmup.  So  I 

0:15:43.710 --> 0:15:47.970
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>like  to do  like  five,  six,  seven  kilometers.  Really  get  myself 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>moving,  get  comfortable  in  the  chair  and  stuff  like that.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>So  you  go  out  to  the  start  line  and  then 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>you're  doing  your  5,  6,  7K?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>So  a  lot  of  it  is  beforehand,  but  it's  just 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>trying  to  get  the  body  ready  to go faster. Yeah.

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<v Kyle Merber>Do  you  do  strides  in  the  same  way  that  runners 

0:16:04.170 --> 0:16:06.330
<v Kyle Merber>would,  like  hit  it  really  fast  beforehand  to  prep  the 

0:16:06.330 --> 0:16:09.720
<v Kyle Merber>body  or  is  it  such  a  momentum,  especially  the  way, 

0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.739
<v Kyle Merber>I  mean  you  close  out,  how  warm  are  you  on 

0:16:13.740 --> 0:16:14.460
<v Kyle Merber>the  start  line?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>I  mean,  today  we  were pretty cold, I'll be honest.  Today  was  pretty  cold.  So 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>we  sort  of  try  and  warm  up  as  much  as 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>possible,  but  whereas  some  of  the  runners  can  sort  of 

0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.860
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>run  on  the  sport,  jump  up  and  down,  once  we're 

0:16:25.860 --> 0:16:26.731
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>on  the  start  line,  we're  on  the  start line.

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<v Kyle Merber>You don't want  to  get  held.

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Yeah.  Yeah,  exactly. But we  can't  move,  we  can't  do  anything.  So 

0:16:32.070 --> 0:16:35.010
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>it's  important  that  you  know  sort  of  what  your  limit 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>is  beforehand.  For  me,  I don't  tend  to  do  sort  of 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>much  stride  stuff.  It's  just  consistent  pushing,  my  warm- up 

0:16:42.750 --> 0:16:47.310
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>heart  rate,  just  getting  the  body  moving,  getting  it  loose. 

0:16:47.310 --> 0:16:51.300
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>But  I  know that  so  many  people  will  do.  Yeah,  there's 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>so  many  different  things.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>But  lots  of  gear.  I  mean,  you  guys  have  3D 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>printed  gloves,  some  of  you,  some  of  you wear,  I  don't 

0:16:58.050 --> 0:17:01.860
<v Carrie Tollefson>know  the  actual  term,  but  like  the  plastic  medical,  like 

0:17:01.860 --> 0:17:04.379
<v Carrie Tollefson>what  the  nurses  wear  and  stuff.  Yeah,  you  wear  those 

0:17:04.380 --> 0:17:07.020
<v Carrie Tollefson>kind  of  gloves.  You  have  sandpaper  sometimes.  There  is  a 

0:17:07.020 --> 0:17:08.340
<v Carrie Tollefson>whole  thing  that  goes  into  it.

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Yeah. I think  there's  so  much more  that  goes in than  what  people  may  realize. 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>So  a  lot  of  people  don't  realize  that  we  actually 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>kind  of  punch  the  push  rim  rather  than  grab  it. 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>So  it's  protecting  our  hands  and  you say  the  plastic  gloves, 

0:17:22.980 --> 0:17:28.170
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>yeah,  we  have  3D  printed  gloves.  Some  people  don't.  So there's so 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>many  different  things,  the  chairs  and  wheels  and tires. It's like you have a car that you're trying to prep for a race as well.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah.

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<v Kyle Merber>Coming out of the race now  a  few  hours  later,  I'm  thinking  about  tomorrow,  what 

0:17:40.260 --> 0:17:42.990
<v Kyle Merber>hurts  the  most?  I  guess  is  it  your  back?  Is 

0:17:42.990 --> 0:17:46.650
<v Kyle Merber>it  your  arms?  Is it  the  hands? Are you  just  exhausted?  What  does 

0:17:46.650 --> 0:17:47.370
<v Kyle Merber>tomorrow  feel  like?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>For  me,  it's  actually  my  legs.  So  I  have  full 

0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.001
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>feeling  in  my  legs,  which a lot of  people  don't,  but  I  (inaudible)

0:17:53.001 --> 0:18:00.090
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>  when I could feel that and  that's  pretty  painful  for  me.  So if I  didn't  have 

0:18:00.090 --> 0:18:02.250
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>full  feeling  in  my  legs,  I'd  probably  do  the  ultras and stuff like that.


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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>But  yeah,  normally  tomorrow  I'll  be  a  little  bit  battered, 

0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:13.560
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>but  for  me  a  half  is  like  not a  training  run, 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>but  it's  not  so  hard, so  it's  not  too  bad.  But 

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>yeah,  everything  hurts after a marathon.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>So  we're  going  to see you  in  Boston?

0:18:20.250 --> 0:18:20.609
<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Absolutely.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>And  then  what's  after  that?

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>London,  six  days  later.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Oh my gosh.

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<v Kyle Merber>Oh, it's a tough-

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Here we go. Here we go.  Oh,  well,  good  luck  to  you.  Congratulations.  It  was so 

0:18:29.820 --> 0:18:31.080
<v Carrie Tollefson>fun  to  watch  you  race  today.

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<v Eden Rainbow-Cooper>Thank  you so much.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>All right. Well, now we move on  to  the  men's  winner  of  the  United  Airlines NYC  Half. 

0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:43.380
<v Carrie Tollefson>And  I'm  excited  to  see if we are saying this right or  if  we're  not.  I  said 

0:18:43.380 --> 0:18:44.910
<v Carrie Tollefson>it  the  whole  broadcast  today.

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<v Kyle Merber>Based  off  the  way that  I  think  I  heard  some  noise 

0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:49.379
<v Kyle Merber>from  when  I  said  my  version.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>They  laughed?

0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:50.670
<v Kyle Merber>That  it  was  not.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Well,  I  don't  care  how  we  said  it.  This  guy 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>performed  awesome  today.  He  sat  for  quite  a  ways.  Then 

0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.420
<v Carrie Tollefson>he  pushed,  when  I  asked  him  beforehand  what  he  wanted 

0:19:03.420 --> 0:19:05.760
<v Carrie Tollefson>to  do,  he  said  podium.  And  then  afterwards  he  said, "

0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.280
<v Carrie Tollefson>I  just  wanted to  win."  So  he  didn't  quite  tell  me 

0:19:08.490 --> 0:19:10.170
<v Carrie Tollefson>that  he  wanted  the  win.  He  just  said  podium.

0:19:10.500 --> 0:19:11.699
<v Kyle Merber>Of  course  he  wants  to  win.

0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:13.050
<v Carrie Tollefson>I  know.  I  figured.

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<v Kyle Merber>Now  he  knows  what  he's  doing  in  a  half.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Okay.  All  right.  This  is  a  winner.  We  want  to 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>hear  exactly  how  to  say  your  name,  Adriaan.

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Adriaan  Wildschutt.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Okay.  So  the  W  is...

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Like  how  we  would  say  wilderness.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>I  thought  it  was  like...

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<v Kyle Merber>Okay. There's no  V.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Sorry,  Adriaan.  I  said  Wildschutt  and  I  thought  I  was  sounding so good.

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<v Kyle Merber>So  Adriaan,  you  like  the  half  now,  huh?  I  mean, 

0:19:40.109 --> 0:19:42.420
<v Kyle Merber>you're  two  for  two  on  having  some  really  good  ones. 

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<v Kyle Merber>Did  you  feel  now  like  with  some  experience  on  your 

0:19:44.670 --> 0:19:48.030
<v Kyle Merber>belt  coming  into  today,  did  you  have  a  different  mindset 

0:19:48.030 --> 0:19:49.170
<v Kyle Merber>because  you  knew  what  you're  getting  into?

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yeah,  I  guess  it  definitely  helped  to have  run  a  half 

0:19:54.420 --> 0:19:58.080
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >before  and  I  knew  exactly  where  I  started  hurting  last  time.

0:19:59.190 --> 0:19:59.850
<v Kyle Merber>Where  was  that?

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Last  three  miles.

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<v Kyle Merber>Okay.

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >But  this  time  around,  I  wanted  to  make  sure  that 

0:20:03.780 --> 0:20:07.530
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >I  conserve  as  much  energy  as  possible.  And since the course  is  not 

0:20:08.070 --> 0:20:11.790
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >recognizable,  it  was  all  about  the  way.  And  so  I 

0:20:11.790 --> 0:20:16.470
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >wanted  to  make  sure  that  I'm  really  strong.  Coach  and I decided that the person that 

0:20:16.619 --> 0:20:20.250
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >was  going  to  win  this  race,  the  strongest  last  night, 

0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:21.691
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >so  it's  what  we  were focusing on.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Well, 59.13 is the PR  that  you  had  coming  in  and  is  still  your 

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:30.060
<v Carrie Tollefson>PR.  But  that  was  run  this  last  fall?

0:20:30.869 --> 0:20:33.420
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yes.  I  ran  it  in  October  in  Valencia.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>So  this  is  only  your  second  half.  And  I  mean, 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>you  ran  so  smart  today,  so  calm  and  confident.  Tell 

0:20:39.780 --> 0:20:41.790
<v Carrie Tollefson>us  about  your  race  too,  because  it  was  a  huge 

0:20:41.790 --> 0:20:44.100
<v Carrie Tollefson>pack  and  there  were  so  many  names  that  they  brought 

0:20:44.100 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Carrie Tollefson>in  this  time.

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yeah,  it  was  obviously  a  very  deep  field  and  there 

0:20:49.230 --> 0:20:54.720
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >were so many people for  a  long  time  and  I  was getting antsy a little bit,  but  I  wanted 

0:20:54.990 --> 0:20:59.640
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >to be sure to  conserve  as  much  energy  as  possible.  And  I  made 

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >that  mistake  so  many  times,  especially  on  the  track  too. 

0:21:03.300 --> 0:21:06.690
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >And  I  learned  to  be  much  more  technically  still  on 

0:21:06.690 --> 0:21:11.730
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >the  track.  And  I  think  that definitely helped me a lot  today,  understanding  when  to 

0:21:11.730 --> 0:21:14.130
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >make  a  move  and when to  just  relax  and when  to  tuck  in 

0:21:14.130 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >behind  when  it's  a  headwind.
 But  yeah,  the  first  nine 

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >miles  was  fit  and  I  was  just  trying  to  stay 

0:21:20.790 --> 0:21:23.100
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >in  myself  and  then  really  push  the  last  5K.

0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:27.300
<v Kyle Merber>There  were  a  lot  of  hard  surges  and  it  seemed 

0:21:27.300 --> 0:21:29.340
<v Kyle Merber>like  for  the  first  half  of  the  race you  were  sitting 

0:21:29.340 --> 0:21:32.459
<v Kyle Merber>back.  Is  it  tempting  to  respond  to  every  single  surge 

0:21:32.460 --> 0:21:36.240
<v Kyle Merber>like  that?  And  I  guess  how  much  more  difficult  does 

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.159
<v Kyle Merber>that  make  a  race  as  opposed  to  when  you're  on 

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.909
<v Kyle Merber>the  track  now  with  pace  lights  and it's  just  clicking  off. 

0:21:41.910 --> 0:21:45.419
<v Kyle Merber>Now  today  was  a  real  race.  And  so  yeah,  how 

0:21:45.420 --> 0:21:47.369
<v Kyle Merber>did  you  respond  to  all  those  moves  that  were  happening?

0:21:48.570 --> 0:21:51.810
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yeah, of course that makes it  a  lot  more  harder  because  you  never  really  know 

0:21:51.810 --> 0:21:53.490
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >when  somebody's  going  to  make  a  move  and  just  keep 

0:21:53.490 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >on  going.  But  it  is  very  helpful  to  have  such 

0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.100
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >a  stake  feel  then  you  know  if  people...  Because  I 

0:21:59.100 --> 0:22:05.340
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >mean,  you  go  off  your instinct as well. And I was  going  off  of  Grant  Fisher. 

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >I  knew  that  he  would  know  when  to  make  moves. And since he's 

0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:13.200
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >been  very  good  tactically  over  the  years  and  I  made 

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >so  many  mistakes  like  prior  and I was just walking off of  (inaudible)   I  see 

0:22:18.002 --> 0:22:22.410
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >he  was  stalking him and I was just  like  relaxing  a  bit.  And  then about towards  10 

0:22:22.410 --> 0:22:25.649
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >miles  or  9  miles,  I  could  see,  I  felt  really 

0:22:25.650 --> 0:22:28.050
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >good  and  I  was like, "At  some  point,  I'm  going  to  just 

0:22:28.050 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >want  to  get  up  the  bridge  and then  make  a  big 

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.410
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >surge  down  the  hill."  And  then  because  after  the  down, you 

0:22:34.590 --> 0:22:37.590
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >get  one  hill  again  and  so  I  wanted  to  keep 

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.310
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >pushing  up  that  hill.  So  yeah,  that  helped  a  lot, 

0:22:41.310 --> 0:22:45.002
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >but  I was definitely working off Grant Fisher because I can  understand  (inaudible) .

0:22:47.730 --> 0:22:49.590
<v Carrie Tollefson>When you say, were  you  holding  back  then  a  little  bit?  I  mean, 

0:22:49.590 --> 0:22:52.050
<v Carrie Tollefson>that's a  really  tough  thing  to  do  when  there's  so  many 

0:22:52.050 --> 0:22:54.869
<v Carrie Tollefson>athletes  in  the  group  as  well.  How  do  you  calm 

0:22:54.869 --> 0:22:57.570
<v Carrie Tollefson>yourself  to  just  be  able  to  be  confident  in  those 

0:22:57.570 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Carrie Tollefson>later  stages?

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yeah,  I  think  around  seven  mile,  there  was  a  big 

0:23:01.888 --> 0:23:05.459
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >move  down  the  hill  and  I  follow.  I  was  making 

0:23:05.459 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >sure  that I'm not going to let,  because  there  was  four  people  making  that  move and I was like, "Okay, 

0:23:08.940 --> 0:23:13.050
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >I  need  to  go." It's not  just  one  person.  But  yeah,  I 

0:23:13.050 --> 0:23:16.050
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >think  it's  difficult  to  explain  because  you  understand  when  you're in 

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.470
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >the  moment,  you  know  exactly  what  to  do  and  I 

0:23:19.470 --> 0:23:21.540
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >wanted  to  make  sure  that  I  stay  there's  very  good 

0:23:21.540 --> 0:23:25.710
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >athletes,  like  I  said,  and  they  won't  just  leave  somebody 

0:23:25.710 --> 0:23:28.020
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >running  away  from  the  field.  And  if  they  stay  behind, 

0:23:28.020 --> 0:23:30.420
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >it  means  I  probably  should  just  be  calm  and  they'd 

0:23:30.420 --> 0:23:34.830
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >help  a  lot  to  work off of  other  athletes.  But  yeah,  like 

0:23:34.830 --> 0:23:38.010
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >I  said,  you  wouldn't exactly...  I  was  holding  back  a  lot 

0:23:38.670 --> 0:23:40.950
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >and  I  guess  that's  good  and  I  felt  really  good 

0:23:40.950 --> 0:23:44.460
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >going  up  the  hills.  And  so  I  knew  I  was 

0:23:44.460 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >going  to  be  in  a  very  good  spot  towards  the 

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:48.810
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >last  three  hours  because  it's  a  little  more  handy.

0:23:49.138 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Kyle Merber>There  was  a  moment,  I  think  you  were like cornering 42nd  where  it 

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Kyle Merber>seemed  you  almost  went  down.  Was  it  a  twisted  ankle? 

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.938
<v Kyle Merber>Did  you  hit  a  pothole?  What  happened  there?  And  what 

0:23:59.939 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Kyle Merber>did  that  do  to  you?

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:02.938
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yeah,  I  don't  know.  I  guess  I  didn't  expect  it 

0:24:02.939 --> 0:24:05.609
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >to  be  so  soft  to turn  and  I  guess  I  might 

0:24:05.609 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >have  stepped  on  something,  but  luckily  it  wasn't  too bad and  I 

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:13.678
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >gained  my  balance  very  quickly  after  that.  But  yeah,  I 

0:24:13.679 --> 0:24:16.261
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >saw  it  after  I  was  like, " Oh boy."

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<v Carrie Tollefson>I know.  I  didn't  see  it  live  on  television  until  the 

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.859
<v Carrie Tollefson>replay.  You  were  back  home  in  South  Africa  running  a 

0:24:22.859 --> 0:24:24.900
<v Carrie Tollefson>little  bit,  but  you  train  in  Flagstaff.  Talk  a  little 

0:24:24.900 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Carrie Tollefson>bit  about  your  situation.  Your  coach,  Jack,  is  sitting  right 

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.910
<v Carrie Tollefson>here  and  one  quote  that  he  gave  me  before  one 

0:24:29.910 --> 0:24:32.430
<v Carrie Tollefson>of  your  other  races  earlier  this  year  is  that  you 

0:24:32.430 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Carrie Tollefson>are  just  full  of  love  of  life  and  your  team. 

0:24:35.310 --> 0:24:37.410
<v Carrie Tollefson>You  really  love  that  team.  Your  brother  has  been  over 

0:24:37.410 --> 0:24:40.139
<v Carrie Tollefson>to  Flagstaff.  You  guys  got  a  lot  going  on  there 

0:24:40.140 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Carrie Tollefson>and a  really  good  atmosphere  right  now.

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.090
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yeah,  we  have  a  great  dynamic.  We  have  one  class 

0:24:45.090 --> 0:24:47.910
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >that  he's  on  the  team  and  that  goes  what  I 

0:24:47.910 --> 0:24:50.939
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >would  say.  We  have  a  very,  very  good  coach  and 

0:24:50.940 --> 0:24:55.619
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >I  think  that  you  can  see  that in our  performances  and  even 

0:24:55.619 --> 0:24:58.740
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >in  the  recent  weeks,  getting  off  of  the  US  half-

0:24:58.740 --> 0:25:02.220
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >terms  and  now  this  race  as  well and  the  cross  country 

0:25:02.220 --> 0:25:04.500
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >as  well  earlier  this  year.  So  clearly  we have a  very  good 

0:25:04.500 --> 0:25:07.530
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >coach  and  a  very  good  team  and  having  world- class 

0:25:07.530 --> 0:25:09.540
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >athletes  makes  it  a  little  bit  easier.  And  I  was 

0:25:09.540 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >in  South  Africa,  escaped  the  cold  a  little  bit  and 

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:14.970
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >then  that's  why  I  was  a  little  concerned  about  the 

0:25:14.970 --> 0:25:18.060
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >weather  today,  but  I  guess  it  worked  out  well.

0:25:18.750 --> 0:25:22.050
<v Kyle Merber>So  you're  now  on  the  roads  twice.  Are  we  done 

0:25:22.050 --> 0:25:23.430
<v Kyle Merber>with  the  track  or  are  we  going  to  go  back 

0:25:23.430 --> 0:25:26.910
<v Kyle Merber>and  forth or  is the  marathon  calling?  Where are  you  at  mentally?

0:25:27.148 --> 0:25:30.780
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yeah.  I  mean,  like  this  is  my  thing. I just take it  one  day 

0:25:30.780 --> 0:25:32.369
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >at  a  time.  I  don't  get  ahead  of  myself.  Of 

0:25:32.369 --> 0:25:36.030
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >course,  it's  so  fleeting  sometimes.  You  get  one  thing  done 

0:25:36.030 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >and you want  to  jump  straight  right  into  the  next  thing.  And 

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:40.859
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >for  me,  I  want  to  enjoy  my  running  career  and that 

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >means  being  grateful  and  celebrating  the  moments  that  you  do 

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.619
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >well  and  just  living  the  moment. I don't know  what  the  future  holds. 

0:25:49.619 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >I'm  not  focusing  on  the  track  this  year  because  there's 

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >no  world  championships.  And  so  that's  why  we  wanted  to 

0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:00.419
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >explore  and  do  a  little  bit  more  role.  And  today 

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >was  the  big  focus  for  the  first  half  of  the  year and that's done and I'm very happy about that. And so yeah, I don't quite know.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>There's  something  big  coming  though.  We  haven't  talked  about  the  book.

0:26:12.930 --> 0:26:13.889
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yeah,  that's  coming.

0:26:13.890 --> 0:26:14.820
<v Carrie Tollefson>That's  coming.

0:26:15.060 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >That's  in  the  pipeline.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah,  you  put  it  out  there and  I've  mentioned  it  a 

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.230
<v Carrie Tollefson>few  times  on  the  broadcast.  So  when  do  you  expect 

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<v Carrie Tollefson>that  to  happen?

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >The  book  is  being  published  in  May,  later  May.  The 

0:26:28.590 --> 0:26:30.419
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >exact  date  needs  to  be  confirmed,  but  I  think  it's 

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >probably  going  to  be  around  May  9th and May 26th.  Yeah,  that's something that I've  been 

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.780
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >writing  for  the  last  two  years.  And  I  am  very 

0:26:39.780 --> 0:26:44.129
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >happy  that  it's  approaching  the  end  now.  I  can  just 

0:26:44.129 --> 0:26:46.408
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >relax  because  that's  the  thing,  like  coming  out  of  college, 

0:26:46.409 --> 0:26:49.649
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >you  do  NCAAs and you're  in  school,  you're  always  busy  and  it's 

0:26:49.650 --> 0:26:52.170
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >a  pro.  You  get  done  with  training  and you're  just  like 

0:26:52.380 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >laying  around.  And  that's  not  never  really  my  nature.  So 

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.830
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >I  always  try  to  find  things  to  do.  I  remember 

0:26:58.830 --> 0:27:03.449
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >like  one  of  our  marketing  managers  say,  I  always  ask, 

0:27:03.540 --> 0:27:06.599
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >is  there  no...  I  asked  him  if  there's  no internship I think to open.  I 

0:27:06.599 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >feel  like  (inaudible) .
 And  he  was  like, " Bro,  we're 

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:14.250
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >paying  you  to run."  So  yeah,  no,  I  like  to keep busy and  it 

0:27:14.250 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >was  great  for  me,  especially  from  a  South  African  standpoint. 

0:27:18.030 --> 0:27:20.340
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >I  think  the  book  is,  people  can  find  a  lot 

0:27:20.340 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >of... In that  it's  not  just  about  running.  I  like  to  run my life how we all want 

0:27:25.859 --> 0:27:28.260
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >different  kinds  of  things,  and  the  book  is  one  of 

0:27:28.260 --> 0:27:30.210
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >those  things.  And  so  I  feel  like  a  lot  of people 

0:27:30.420 --> 0:27:31.170
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >can  gain  from  that.

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<v Kyle Merber>So  now  what  is  going  to  keep  you  busy  after 

0:27:33.570 --> 0:27:35.430
<v Kyle Merber>this  book?  Is  there  a  sequel  coming  already?

0:27:35.430 --> 0:27:35.550
<v Carrie Tollefson>Maybe.

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<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Yeah.  You know what? I think  I  always  find  things  to  do.  I  have 

0:27:41.340 --> 0:27:45.510
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >started a business with  one,  three  other  friends  of  mine  in  Florida,  it's 

0:27:45.510 --> 0:27:50.820
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >a  electrolyte  brand.  It's  called  Hybrid  WTR. And so we are working on that always.  And  I  guess 

0:27:50.820 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >I  will  keep  myself  busy  with  that  until I find something more to do.

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<v Carrie Tollefson>Always  hungry  for  something  next.  Well,  congratulations  on  today.  And 

0:27:59.190 --> 0:28:01.260
<v Carrie Tollefson>wow,  we're  excited  to  see  where  you  go,  whether  it's 

0:28:01.260 --> 0:28:03.810
<v Carrie Tollefson>the  track,  cross  country,  13th  at  the  World  Cross  Country 

0:28:03.810 --> 0:28:08.189
<v Carrie Tollefson>Championships,  just  in  January,  now  winning  the  United  Airlines NYC  Half. 

0:28:08.190 --> 0:28:09.330
<v Carrie Tollefson>Bravo,  man.  Way  to  go.

0:28:09.898 --> 0:28:10.590
<v Kyle Merber>Congratulations.

0:28:10.590 --> 0:28:10.979
<v Adriaan Wildschutt >Appreciate  it.

0:28:11.820 --> 0:28:13.770
<v Carrie Tollefson>All  right,  now  we  have  one  more.

0:28:14.070 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah. I mean, we've  been  in  the  presence  of  greatness  after  greatness.  And  now-

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:17.881
<v Carrie Tollefson>I  mean,  just  keeps coming.

0:28:17.881 --> 0:28:20.310
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah.  The  heavy  hitter.

0:28:20.550 --> 0:28:26.310
<v Carrie Tollefson>The  heavy  hitter.  Ms.  Hellen Obiri.  And  she  has  her  pizza.

0:28:26.430 --> 0:28:28.168
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah,  good  choice.  Emmy  Squared.  Great  spot.

0:28:28.919 --> 0:28:29.430
<v Hellen Obiri>Thank  you.

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<v Kyle Merber>When  in  New  York,  what's  your  favorite  thing to do? I mean, you come  to  New 

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.820
<v Kyle Merber>York  now  similarly  all  the  time.  What's  your  favorite  thing 

0:28:35.820 --> 0:28:37.770
<v Kyle Merber>to  do  besides  win  races  when  you're  here?

0:28:38.550 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Hellen Obiri>Besides  what I do after the race,  I  can  touch  up  my  business.

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:45.180
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yes.  When  you say New York is like  your  second  home?

0:28:46.110 --> 0:28:51.301
<v Hellen Obiri>It's  been  my  second  several  times,  so I can just go back. It's nice to get home.

0:28:51.301 --> 0:28:56.490
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah.  Today  was  an  interesting  race,  wasn't  it?  I  mean, 

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.910
<v Carrie Tollefson>for  the  first  half,  you  had  company  and  then  all 

0:28:59.910 --> 0:29:04.740
<v Carrie Tollefson>of  a  sudden  you  didn't.  So  was  that  the point of the  race 

0:29:04.740 --> 0:29:06.330
<v Carrie Tollefson>today  or  were  you  surprised  as  well?

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.770
<v Hellen Obiri>I  was  surprised  because  we  have  the  strong there. Agnes was  there  with me and they knew Agnes, 

0:29:14.340 --> 0:29:21.870
<v Hellen Obiri>she's  very  strong.  When you cross country, you can, and  she  likes  to  go  the  hard 

0:29:21.870 --> 0:29:24.959
<v Hellen Obiri>place.  So I was ready for the hard place, but  I  wasn't  thinking  like  she  (inaudible) .  But 

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Hellen Obiri>for  me, it was like, just let me  just  try  to push myself as hard and see how far I can go because I've been preparing for the marathon. I've  not  changed  anything,  so  I 

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:43.471
<v Hellen Obiri>will  see  up  to  see how my level of my business.

0:29:43.471 --> 0:29:43.472
<v Carrie Tollefson>Sure.

0:29:43.472 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah, of course.  I  mean,  the  London  Marathon  coming  up,  it's  going 

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.150
<v Kyle Merber>to  be  one  of  the  great  fields  that  we've  ever 

0:29:51.150 --> 0:29:54.660
<v Kyle Merber>seen.  What  did  you  take  from  today  and  what  did 

0:29:54.660 --> 0:29:56.430
<v Kyle Merber>you  learn  about  your  fitness  here?

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:03.420
<v Hellen Obiri>So  far  I  can  say  like I'm  (inaudible)  because I have  six  weeks 

0:30:03.420 --> 0:30:08.489
<v Hellen Obiri>of  training  and  the  quarters  were  here.  So  they have seen what  I've 

0:30:08.490 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Hellen Obiri>done.  And  so  far  I've  seen what I've done because I'm not  100%  of  my  fitness 

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:28.500
<v Hellen Obiri>because  we  still have time. So I can say I'm in a very good place if you can just train  that  seven  weeks.  So  in  preparation  to 

0:30:28.500 --> 0:30:32.191
<v Hellen Obiri>go  as  we felt to go and everything from life, so we do hope we  see each other in London Marathon.

0:30:32.191 --> 0:30:39.420
<v Carrie Tollefson>You have  run  so  well  over  26. 2,  but  we've  seen 

0:30:39.420 --> 0:30:43.260
<v Carrie Tollefson>you  run  well  over the 1500, even  800  meters,  cross  country,  all  of 

0:30:43.260 --> 0:30:46.050
<v Carrie Tollefson>it.  You've  done  it  all.  But  this  past  year,  you 

0:30:46.050 --> 0:30:49.470
<v Carrie Tollefson>really  have  done  quite  a  few  10Ks.  You've  done  some 

0:30:49.470 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Carrie Tollefson>different  distances.  Is  that  just  to  keep  you  excited  about 

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.530
<v Carrie Tollefson>the  sport  or  is  there  an  actual  reason  to  drop 

0:30:55.530 --> 0:30:57.660
<v Carrie Tollefson>down  and  get  the  legs  going?  I  mean,  what  is 

0:30:57.660 --> 0:30:59.970
<v Carrie Tollefson>your  best  distance?  Nobody  knows.

0:31:01.170 --> 0:31:04.380
<v Hellen Obiri>I  can  say  all  are  the  best  of  my distances because  I 

0:31:04.380 --> 0:31:13.350
<v Hellen Obiri>know I love doing  10Ks.  I  love doing half-marathons and I've been doing track for a while.  So  last  year  I  would  say 

0:31:13.860 --> 0:31:16.140
<v Hellen Obiri>I  need  to  get  my  speed  back.  I need  to  get 

0:31:16.140 --> 0:31:30.540
<v Hellen Obiri>my  legs  back  towards the marathon. So we decided to do  10Ks  so the new 10Ks, it can get me in speed. And because I was paying for the emeritus, so this is the right time,  it's  the  right  moment 

0:31:30.570 --> 0:31:33.150
<v Hellen Obiri>to  be  set  up  to  see  how  far  my  skill 

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:38.219
<v Hellen Obiri>is. And so  now  we  are  ready  because  I  was  training  with a track register. They 

0:31:40.380 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Hellen Obiri>were  helping me to push  me with  the  speed.  And  then  they  said,  now, 

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.850
<v Hellen Obiri>even  if  I  do  that,  I  think  I  did  four, 

0:31:47.880 --> 0:32:01.350
<v Hellen Obiri>three,  10  case  last  year  because  I  remember  the half number I did was 2023. So having to have how much you can do like half-marathon.
So if you have a speed, you can  just 

0:32:01.350 --> 0:32:04.260
<v Hellen Obiri>to  do  all  the  distances  for  following.  Some  trust  about 

0:32:04.260 --> 0:32:06.390
<v Hellen Obiri>yourself  and  used  to trust about  what  you're  doing.

0:32:07.230 --> 0:32:08.820
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah.  But  not  going  back  to  the  track.

0:32:10.170 --> 0:32:22.501
<v Hellen Obiri>Because  even  back  to. I don't say I can go and run 5K and 10Ks because  my  age  and my time will allow me to go now.

0:32:22.501 --> 0:32:23.130
<v Carrie Tollefson>Bite you tongue,  you're  young.

0:32:23.190 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Kyle Merber>Hell,  something  I've  always  really  appreciated  about  you  is  it's 

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:29.580
<v Kyle Merber>not  about  chasing  times.  It's  about  winning  races.  And  I 

0:32:29.580 --> 0:32:32.370
<v Kyle Merber>mean,  you  wouldn't  necessarily  know  it  based  off  of  the 

0:32:32.370 --> 0:32:35.910
<v Kyle Merber>time  today,  but  it's  not  known  for  being  a  fast 

0:32:35.910 --> 0:32:39.690
<v Kyle Merber>course  here.  You  made  it  one.  But  when  you're  out 

0:32:39.690 --> 0:32:42.210
<v Kyle Merber>there,  are  you  looking  at  the  clock  with the  time?  Are 

0:32:42.210 --> 0:32:46.230
<v Kyle Merber>you  just  feeding  off  of  the  other  athletes  and  ultimately 

0:32:46.230 --> 0:32:48.750
<v Kyle Merber>waiting  to  make  your  move?  I  mean,  you  were  following 

0:32:48.750 --> 0:32:51.210
<v Kyle Merber>Agnes  for  so  long  and  then  when  you  moved  it 

0:32:51.210 --> 0:32:53.610
<v Kyle Merber>just  really  did  open  up  so  quickly.  So  what  is 

0:32:53.610 --> 0:32:54.900
<v Kyle Merber>your  mindset  in  those  moments?

0:32:55.410 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Hellen Obiri>For  me,  the first thing I knew when it comes to Agnes,  first  is  doing  the  (inaudible)   from 

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:08.610
<v Hellen Obiri>them.  In  New  York,  you can say I want to run this time because hard goes with  (inaudible)   so  what it  was 

0:33:08.610 --> 0:33:12.990
<v Hellen Obiri>in  my  mind  to  do  this.  And  from  there,  just 

0:33:12.990 --> 0:33:18.810
<v Hellen Obiri>the  times, but you can't just  like I want to do... I didn't have  the  targets.  The  time  I  want  to 

0:33:18.810 --> 0:33:26.460
<v Hellen Obiri>run  is  this  one  and  this  one.  So I said if  I win, the time will come. And probably because Agnes was there.  So 

0:33:26.460 --> 0:33:26.821
<v Hellen Obiri>when  you  started, the place was so big. So I knew inside the post record.

0:33:26.821 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah, it was awesome.  You  heard  people  saying  though,  you're  going  to  run 

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.090
<v Carrie Tollefson>66  minutes,  right?  You  heard  someone  yell  that  at  you?

0:33:42.300 --> 0:34:00.030
<v Hellen Obiri>Yeah.  When I was at the 20 days, some  (inaudible)  say like that's why I realized I'm on the course record base because Agnes broke up. So me, it wasn't like my place also broken down. So I was thinking  like  I'm  67,  something  like  that. 

0:34:00.300 --> 0:34:03.540
<v Hellen Obiri>But  then  no,  I  was  so  close  to  66.  So 

0:34:03.540 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Hellen Obiri>when  somebody  told me there are six places, so I tried to get it.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.940
<v Carrie Tollefson>Well,  let's  talk  a  little  bit  about  the  spring.  So 

0:34:11.940 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Carrie Tollefson>this  is  a  little  bit of  a  different  spring.  Normally  we 

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.859
<v Carrie Tollefson>see  you  either  here  in  New  York  or  in  Boston, 

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.170
<v Carrie Tollefson>but  now  you're  making  the  trip  across  the  pond  to 

0:34:19.170 --> 0:34:22.230
<v Carrie Tollefson>London  and  it's  a  flat  fast  course. It's  different  than  what 

0:34:22.230 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Carrie Tollefson>you've  been  running  lately.  Even  the  Olympic  Games  was  super 

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Carrie Tollefson>hilly.  Boston's  hilly.  New  York's  hilly.  So  what's  your  prep 

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.470
<v Carrie Tollefson>like  for  London?  Has  it  been  different  or  about  the  same?

0:34:32.610 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Hellen Obiri>I  think  I  made  the  right  choice  to  go  to 

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:41.489
<v Hellen Obiri>London  Marathon  because  sometimes  you need to change your  mind  and  sometimes  you need  to 

0:34:41.489 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Hellen Obiri>change  your  training  and  sometimes  you  need  to  see  how 

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Hellen Obiri>far  your  legs  can  go  into  the faster course. So I said,  now  this  is 

0:34:50.279 --> 0:34:55.590
<v Hellen Obiri>the  right  time,  this  right  moment  to  do London Marathon with the partnerings  there.  Of 

0:34:58.469 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Hellen Obiri>course I love Boston Marathon, New York Marathon, and  I  like  to  do  what  they  want to do.  None  of 

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:10.380
<v Hellen Obiri>them  told  this might pass. So I say like, I'm not one there to target. I want to do this  time and this time  is to  see how far my list I'm doing and  how  far  I'm  going 

0:35:13.050 --> 0:35:18.001
<v Hellen Obiri>faster  because  we  love  women  base  makers.  I  haven't  done  (inaudible)

0:35:18.001 --> 0:35:24.661
<v Hellen Obiri>  without  the best matter. So it will be for me my opportunity and to learn  the  new  experience  or  fun  with  the faster class.

0:35:24.661 --> 0:35:24.662
<v Carrie Tollefson>It's going to be fun.

0:35:24.662 --> 0:35:29.100
<v Kyle Merber>Do  you  have  to  change  things  in  training  for  what 

0:35:29.100 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Kyle Merber>will  likely  be  a  quicker  cadence  and  tempo?  Especially  I 

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.770
<v Kyle Merber>feel  like  in  New  York  the  last  few  years,  it's 

0:35:34.770 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Kyle Merber>really  about  how  well  you  close.  It  ultimately  was  a 

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:41.430
<v Kyle Merber>sit  and  kick  race.  Whereas  London,  you  almost  know  for 

0:35:41.430 --> 0:35:46.379
<v Kyle Merber>certain  that,  I  mean,  that  first  half  is  not going to be  slow 

0:35:46.380 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Kyle Merber>by  any  means.  So  does  that  change  anything  you're  doing 

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:49.739
<v Kyle Merber>on  a  day- to- day  basis  at  crap?

0:35:59.100 --> 0:36:02.100
<v Hellen Obiri>For  now,  we haven't changed anything because we say I'm doing New York Half. New York Half is tough. So we say for now we  don't  need  to  change  ending  year.  But 

0:36:02.100 --> 0:36:05.430
<v Hellen Obiri>for  next  week, we're going  to  start  changing  like  I  need  to 

0:36:05.430 --> 0:36:15.870
<v Hellen Obiri>do  faster process because I used to do the goals I did in Boston and New York. So we have to see faster  process and  do  faster  workouts  because  you  have  to change the trainings because I can train with Joe and Aya because I think they're doing awesome. So from next week we want to spend our workouts do the also program and the family learning program. 

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:32.002
<v Hellen Obiri>So  from  next  week,  I'm  going  to  focus  about  the  (inaudible) .

0:36:34.830 --> 0:36:36.631
<v Carrie Tollefson>Well, I think I got to know what kind of pizza  did  you  get?

0:36:36.631 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Hellen Obiri>Mushrooms with onion.

0:36:40.650 --> 0:36:41.820
<v Carrie Tollefson>Mushrooms  and  onion?

0:36:43.500 --> 0:36:43.950
<v Hellen Obiri>Yeah.

0:36:43.950 --> 0:36:44.009
<v Carrie Tollefson>Oh, okay.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:45.630
<v Kyle Merber>When  you're-

0:36:46.410 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Carrie Tollefson>We're  back  to  more  technical  questions.  I  wanted  to  know. 

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.509
<v Carrie Tollefson>Of  course  Hellen  would  say that. I was going to  get  into  the  color  of 

0:36:54.510 --> 0:36:57.660
<v Carrie Tollefson>her  nails  now,  but  we're  sorry.  That  has  to  wait 

0:36:57.660 --> 0:36:59.669
<v Carrie Tollefson>because  we're  still  in  the  technical  questions.

0:36:59.730 --> 0:37:00.870
<v Kyle Merber>No,  no,  it's  not  too  technical. It's not too technical.

0:37:00.870 --> 0:37:00.871
<v Carrie Tollefson>Okay. Go.

0:37:00.871 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Kyle Merber>All right. So  when  you're  racing  here  with  30,000  people,  you  probably 

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.770
<v Kyle Merber>get  approached  a  little  bit  and  people  ask  for  advice. 

0:37:11.610 --> 0:37:14.940
<v Kyle Merber>Do  you  have  any  advice for people  who  are  running  the  New 

0:37:14.940 --> 0:37:17.370
<v Kyle Merber>York  City  half  for  in  the  future?  Because  now  you've 

0:37:17.370 --> 0:37:19.890
<v Kyle Merber>run  it  a  couple  times.  You  know  what  you're  doing 

0:37:19.890 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Kyle Merber>here.  What's  the  key?  This  versus  other  races.

0:37:34.650 --> 0:37:51.540
<v Hellen Obiri>What I can advise them to focus and to be disciplined about what  you are doing and to follow the right thing, don't push yourself as, just control yourself and eat  well  while  you're there and sleep well and make sure everything's in the right place. Or then we tell it about, I want to run this time or this time because your first time you should achieve to give the finish line to like, "I want to do this time out." So trust and focus.

0:37:57.270 --> 0:38:00.300
<v Carrie Tollefson>We  were  on  the  broadcast  today,  Hellen.  And  Hellen  and 

0:38:00.300 --> 0:38:02.340
<v Carrie Tollefson>I  go  way  back.  We  have  some  fun  interviews  and 

0:38:02.340 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Carrie Tollefson>podcasts  that  we've  done,  but  we  were  saying, " You  are 

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:09.660
<v Carrie Tollefson>the  fastest  to  ever  run  the  half- marathon  here.  You 

0:38:09.660 --> 0:38:13.469
<v Carrie Tollefson>are  the  fastest  to  ever  run  the  marathon  here  in 

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.980
<v Carrie Tollefson>New  York  City."  What  in  the  world  does  that  feel 

0:38:16.980 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Carrie Tollefson>like?  I  mean,  that  is  crazy.  That's  a  crazy  fact.

0:38:22.319 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Hellen Obiri>It's  awesome. It's an incredible  moment.

0:38:24.690 --> 0:38:27.180
<v Carrie Tollefson>Wait,  put  that  mic  right  up  to  your  mouth  because 

0:38:27.180 --> 0:38:27.541
<v Carrie Tollefson>we  got  to hear this.

0:38:27.540 --> 0:38:33.299
<v Hellen Obiri>That was awesome moment  for  me  and  (inaudible)   for  me.  Having  the 

0:38:33.300 --> 0:38:40.290
<v Hellen Obiri>post  record of a marathon and then after marathon,  that  seems  like  New  York  has  a  special 

0:38:40.290 --> 0:38:48.270
<v Hellen Obiri>space in my life because  now  I'm  the  only  woman  doing  the  post  record  66.

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Carrie Tollefson>So  fun.

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.551
<v Hellen Obiri>For  the  marathon  under  220..

0:38:53.551 --> 0:38:53.552
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah, 219.

0:38:53.552 --> 0:38:54.332
<v Hellen Obiri>219. So that one's a was a moment for me. It gives you motivating me to work hard.

0:38:59.700 --> 0:39:03.090
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah.  And  I  know  your  daughter,  Tanya,  is  probably  making 

0:39:03.090 --> 0:39:08.819
<v Carrie Tollefson>sure  she's  watching  the  clock  too.  She's  on  your  shoulder, 

0:39:08.820 --> 0:39:10.739
<v Carrie Tollefson>in  your  ear  all  the  time,  making  sure  you  do 

0:39:10.739 --> 0:39:14.341
<v Carrie Tollefson>everything  right.  Yeah.  That's awesome.

0:39:14.341 --> 0:39:19.380
<v Kyle Merber>You and Sharon now have  this  incredible  rivalry.  I  mean,  she  finished  second  today. 

0:39:19.380 --> 0:39:22.170
<v Kyle Merber>It  seems  like  you  guys  just  are  always  neck  and 

0:39:22.170 --> 0:39:24.899
<v Kyle Merber>neck  at  the  end  of  races.  What  is  that  like? I mean, 

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Kyle Merber>you  guys  keep  each  other  honest.  Is  it  a  friendly 

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:33.569
<v Kyle Merber>rivalry?  Are  you  warm  enough  together?  What is  the,  I  guess, 

0:39:33.570 --> 0:39:35.730
<v Kyle Merber>atmosphere  like  when  you  two  are  on  a  start  line? 

0:39:35.730 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Kyle Merber>Because  it's  so  often  and  it  always  delivers.

0:39:39.420 --> 0:39:43.049
<v Hellen Obiri>Yeah,  Sharon  and  I  are  very  good  friends.  During  warm  up, "

0:39:43.049 --> 0:39:53.250
<v Hellen Obiri>You  can  do  it,  girl." And as you can see, girl  who  was standing to start, we started to go and we stop. But  when  you  come 

0:39:53.250 --> 0:40:02.940
<v Hellen Obiri>to  competition,  it's  sports,  but that shows us  that  there's no enmity in sports. It's all  about  plays.  Sports 

0:40:02.940 --> 0:40:05.580
<v Hellen Obiri>can  bring  all  the  kids  work.  And  that's  why  I 

0:40:05.580 --> 0:40:11.820
<v Hellen Obiri>used  to share them  from  sports.  So  I  do  say  it's a friendship. After sports,  there's 

0:40:11.820 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Hellen Obiri>life.  And  after  competition,  we  say  that, " Congratulations,  you  made 

0:40:17.850 --> 0:40:21.029
<v Hellen Obiri>it."  So  that's  why we say it's all about sports and we have to keep our friendship.

0:40:22.350 --> 0:40:26.460
<v Carrie Tollefson>Well,  congratulations.  Another  big  win  for  you  and  so  fun 

0:40:26.460 --> 0:40:28.050
<v Carrie Tollefson>for  us  to  be  able  to  call  your  name  across 

0:40:28.050 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Carrie Tollefson>the  line.

0:40:28.620 --> 0:40:30.810
<v Kyle Merber>Best  of  luck in  training  prep  for  London.  We're  going  to 

0:40:30.810 --> 0:40:32.250
<v Kyle Merber>be  excited  to  see  what  you  do  there  next.

0:40:32.430 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Hellen Obiri>Thank  you.

0:40:34.710 --> 0:40:36.900
<v Carrie Tollefson>Well,  Kyle,  that  was  pretty  cool.

0:40:36.900 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah.  I  mean,  I  always  just  like  nerding  out-

0:40:39.060 --> 0:40:39.181
<v Carrie Tollefson>I  know.

0:40:39.180 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Kyle Merber>- opportunities.

0:40:40.140 --> 0:40:42.210
<v Carrie Tollefson>I  mean,  I  wish  we  had  all  day  with  them. 

0:40:42.210 --> 0:40:44.219
<v Carrie Tollefson>I could talk  to  them  all  day,  but  they  got  to  get 

0:40:44.219 --> 0:40:45.180
<v Carrie Tollefson>some  stuff  done.

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.690
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah.  It's  funny,  I  feel like  after  a  half,  if  you're 

0:40:48.690 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Kyle Merber>a  winner,  you  actually  don't  feel  that  terrible.  I'm  sure 

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:54.540
<v Kyle Merber>those  who  did  not  win  don't  feel  quite  as  good. 

0:40:54.540 --> 0:40:56.940
<v Kyle Merber>The  winners  after  a  half,  they  do  still  have  a 

0:40:56.940 --> 0:40:57.660
<v Kyle Merber>lot  of  life  in  them.

0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:57.900
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah.

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Kyle Merber>You  can  cool  down  after a  marathon,  there's  no  reason.

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Carrie Tollefson>Well,  and  most  of  them are going  to  stay  tonight  and  they'll 

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.710
<v Carrie Tollefson>run  in  Central  Park  tomorrow,  get  a  good  run  in.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.260
<v Kyle Merber>The  competition  out  there,  it  was  just  some  of  the 

0:41:07.260 --> 0:41:11.370
<v Kyle Merber>deepest  fields  I  think  we've  ever  seen.  And  Agnes  strung 

0:41:11.370 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Kyle Merber>it  out  early  on  the  women's  side,  so you  probably  didn't 

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Kyle Merber>have the  full  appreciation of  the  men,  which  was  14,  15  guys 

0:41:19.020 --> 0:41:21.780
<v Kyle Merber>playing  together  through  the  streets  the  entire  time.  But  it's 

0:41:21.780 --> 0:41:24.989
<v Kyle Merber>just  amazing  how  this  is  just  such  a  standard  spot 

0:41:24.989 --> 0:41:27.540
<v Kyle Merber>on  the  calendar  now  for  all  the  athletes.  It's  perfectly 

0:41:27.540 --> 0:41:29.550
<v Kyle Merber>situated  for  a  spring  marathon  in  the  buildup.

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.870
<v Carrie Tollefson>It really is, really is. And  as  you  were  saying,  thinking  about  the  men,  that 

0:41:33.870 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Carrie Tollefson>field  was  so  deep.  The  women,  they  had  a  deep 

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.430
<v Carrie Tollefson>field  too,  but  I  would  think  the  men  had  probably 

0:41:38.430 --> 0:41:41.790
<v Carrie Tollefson>the  deepest  field  that  we've  seen  maybe  ever  here.  And 

0:41:42.150 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Carrie Tollefson>it  did  look  like  at  times  where  we  had  a 

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.070
<v Carrie Tollefson>bunch  of  newbies  and  then  a  bunch  of  veterans.  There 

0:41:47.070 --> 0:41:50.219
<v Carrie Tollefson>weren't  a  lot  of  guys  that  have  done  five,  10. 

0:41:50.730 --> 0:41:53.790
<v Carrie Tollefson>They're  either  their  second  or  third  half- marathon  or  their 

0:41:53.790 --> 0:41:57.870
<v Carrie Tollefson>first  like  Grant  Fisher  or  they  were  veterans.  So  it 

0:41:57.870 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Carrie Tollefson>was  really  interesting.  And  I  think  I  just  heard  some 

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:00.750
<v Carrie Tollefson>champagne  get  popped.

0:42:00.750 --> 0:42:01.140
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah.

0:42:01.140 --> 0:42:01.650
<v Carrie Tollefson>Did  you  hear  that?

0:42:01.650 --> 0:42:02.219
<v Kyle Merber>Rightfully  so.

0:42:03.150 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Carrie Tollefson>But  yeah,  Grant  Fisher,  let's  just  touch  on him a little bit.

0:42:05.670 --> 0:42:10.020
<v Kyle Merber>I  mean,  so  Grant,  I  believe  finished  14th  today,  was 

0:42:10.020 --> 0:42:13.260
<v Kyle Merber>in  that  lead  pack  for  the  large  majority  of  the 

0:42:13.260 --> 0:42:17.790
<v Kyle Merber>race,  sat  back.  We  never  really  saw  him  upfront  taking 

0:42:17.790 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Kyle Merber>too  much  of  the  win,  but  it's  a  good  learning 

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Kyle Merber>experience.  I  know  he  didn't  have  the  perfect  buildup  into 

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.890
<v Kyle Merber>this.  And  so  for  him  to  come  out,  get  a 

0:42:25.890 --> 0:42:30.060
<v Kyle Merber>feeler  and  learn,  I  do  think  that  we  often  make 

0:42:30.060 --> 0:42:31.830
<v Kyle Merber>this  mistake  of  saying, " Well,  you've  run  fast  on  the 

0:42:31.830 --> 0:42:35.190
<v Kyle Merber>track,  so  it's  a  perfect  translation."  And  even  though  Grant 

0:42:35.190 --> 0:42:38.130
<v Kyle Merber>has  run  well  in  cross  before,  it's  still  a  learning 

0:42:38.130 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Kyle Merber>experience.  And  I  think  he  probably  comes  away  from  today 

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.540
<v Kyle Merber>with  a  lot  of  lessons  to  take  into  the  next 

0:42:45.540 --> 0:42:46.170
<v Kyle Merber>future  build.

0:42:46.290 --> 0:42:49.980
<v Carrie Tollefson>Totally.  So  much  respect  for  the  distance  and  just  great 

0:42:49.980 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Carrie Tollefson>races  all  around.  All  four  of  the  races  in  the 30,

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.689
<v Carrie Tollefson>000  plus  behind  it  was  pretty  cool.

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah.  I  have  such  appreciation  for  people  like  Hellen  and 

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Kyle Merber>Adriaan  who  are  of  that  mindset  of  just  like,  they'll 

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:04.590
<v Kyle Merber>race  anything,  anytime,  anywhere,  any  surface.  And  to  see  someone 

0:43:04.590 --> 0:43:08.130
<v Kyle Merber>who's  historically  been  a  track  specialist  like  Grant,  I  don't 

0:43:08.130 --> 0:43:11.460
<v Kyle Merber>think  that  you  have  to,  when  you  taste  the  roads, 

0:43:11.460 --> 0:43:13.649
<v Kyle Merber>commit,  you  can  go  back  and  forth  with  a  half. 

0:43:13.650 --> 0:43:16.919
<v Kyle Merber>And  so  we're  seeing  it  more  and  more.  It's  a 

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:19.590
<v Kyle Merber>good  way  to  spend  the  winter  as  well  as  you're 

0:43:19.590 --> 0:43:21.870
<v Kyle Merber>running  the  big  miles  anyway.  So you might as  well  put  them  to  use.

0:43:21.900 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah,  mix  it  up.  And  also  to  Daniel  and  Eden. 

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:28.500
<v Carrie Tollefson>I  mean,  for  me,  maybe  the  most  fun  was  seeing 

0:43:28.500 --> 0:43:31.410
<v Carrie Tollefson>how  emotional  Daniel  was  after  to  see  him  back.  We 

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Carrie Tollefson>love  this  sport.  All  of  us,  no  matter  if  you're 

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.509
<v Carrie Tollefson>racing,  part  of  the  staff,  whatever  it  is,  there  is 

0:43:36.510 --> 0:43:38.700
<v Carrie Tollefson>a  true  family  and  I  think  that's  what  he  missed 

0:43:38.700 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Carrie Tollefson>the  most.  And  that  was  pretty  cool.  And  then  Eden, 

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.310
<v Carrie Tollefson>just to  see  the  fire  and  the  determination  she  has  to 

0:43:44.310 --> 0:43:48.180
<v Carrie Tollefson>be  on  top,  she  has  such  a  great  resume  already. 

0:43:48.450 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Carrie Tollefson>She  could  go  home  today  and  retire  and  she'd  be 

0:43:50.610 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Carrie Tollefson>one  of  the  best  we've  ever  seen.  But  for  her 

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.900
<v Carrie Tollefson>to  say, " No,  I  want  to  win."  And  we  need 

0:43:54.900 --> 0:43:56.580
<v Carrie Tollefson>to  get  her  a  sponsor  and  we  need  to  keep 

0:43:56.580 --> 0:43:59.489
<v Carrie Tollefson>rooting  for  her  because  she is  a  bright  hope  in  that 

0:43:59.489 --> 0:44:00.330
<v Carrie Tollefson>wheelchair  division.

0:44:01.530 --> 0:44:04.320
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah. I think the thing that  the  wheelchair  athletes  bring  is  those  stories.

0:44:04.350 --> 0:44:04.650
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yes.

0:44:04.739 --> 0:44:08.580
<v Kyle Merber>And  they're  so  motivating.  They  could  be  translated  from  their 

0:44:08.580 --> 0:44:11.010
<v Kyle Merber>experiences  when  Daniel  overcame  to  make  it  back  to the  start 

0:44:11.010 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Kyle Merber>line  to  all  of  us.  And  we  just  don't  appreciate 

0:44:16.140 --> 0:44:19.259
<v Kyle Merber>as  non- wheelchair  athletes  the  technical  side  and  how  many 

0:44:19.260 --> 0:44:22.500
<v Kyle Merber>things  can  go  wrong.  So  just  being  able  to  make 

0:44:22.500 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Kyle Merber>it  to  the  finish  line  is  an  accomplishment  in  and 

0:44:24.870 --> 0:44:25.379
<v Kyle Merber>of  itself.

0:44:25.590 --> 0:44:26.041
<v Carrie Tollefson>It's  for  everyone.

0:44:26.041 --> 0:44:26.401
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah.

0:44:26.790 --> 0:44:29.700
<v Carrie Tollefson>Yeah.  Really  cool  day.  Thank  you  for  joining  us.

0:44:29.700 --> 0:44:30.001
<v Kyle Merber>Yeah,  it's  super fun.

0:44:30.001 --> 0:44:34.110
<v Carrie Tollefson>Thanks for CITIUS MAG  joining  us  and  for  the  New  York  Roadrunners  Set 

0:44:34.110 --> 0:44:37.140
<v Carrie Tollefson>the  Pace  podcast.  I'm  Carrie  Tollefson.  This  Kyle  Merber.  We 

0:44:37.140 --> 0:44:40.469
<v Carrie Tollefson>had  an  awesome  day  at  the  2026  United  Airlines  NYF 

0:44:40.469 --> 0:44:41.489
<v Carrie Tollefson>Half.  See  you  next  year.