WEBVTT - Running and Redefining Strength with Shaunta-Maé Alexander

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>One  of  the  things  that  Tunde  kept  repeating  to  me 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>while  on  this  course  was, " Pick  your  head  up.  I 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>want  you  to  see  the  beauty  around  you."  Every  time 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>she  said  that,  it  took  my  mind  off  of  the 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>pain  and  on  the  moment  that  I  was  actually  doing 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>something  that  I  never  imagined  for  myself.  I  never  saw 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>myself  running  13. 1  miles.

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<v Becs Gentry>Welcome  to  Set  the  Pace,  the  official  podcast  of  New 

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<v Becs Gentry>York  Roadrunners  presented  by  Peloton.  I'm  your  host,  Peloton  instructor, 

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<v Becs Gentry>Becs  Gentry,  and  I  am  here  today  doing  the  show 

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<v Becs Gentry>solo  while  Rob  is  busy  CEOing.  Yep.  Well,  I  think 

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<v Becs Gentry>it  is  kind  of  payback  because  I  sort  of  left 

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<v Becs Gentry>him  solo  for  a  couple  of  weeks  there  whilst  I 

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<v Becs Gentry>was  busy  vacationing  and  visiting  my  family  in  the  Canary 

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<v Becs Gentry>Islands  and  having  some,  I'm  going  to  say  it,  self-

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<v Becs Gentry>professed,  well- deserved  time  away  from  New  York  City.  I 

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<v Becs Gentry>have  to  say,  the  running there  was  absolutely  phenomenal.  I've  been 

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<v Becs Gentry>going  there  since  I'm  two  years  old.  It  looks  like 

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<v Becs Gentry>Mars  when  you  land.
 Okay,  I'm  going  to  tell  you 

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<v Becs Gentry>that  because  if  anyone  ever  chooses  to  go  to  Fuerteventura 

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<v Becs Gentry>in  the  Canary  Islands,  as  you  come  in  to  land, 

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<v Becs Gentry>it  is  like  the  scape  of  Mars  that  you  see 

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<v Becs Gentry>in  movies.  The  running  is  dry,  windy;  terrain  is  trail, 

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<v Becs Gentry>sand,  rocks,  volcanic  lava.  It  is  challenging  and  divine.  It 

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<v Becs Gentry>threw  everything  my  way,  from  tantrums  and  tears  to  absolutely 

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<v Becs Gentry>fantastic  strong  runs  on  rolling  hills,  and  most  of  them 

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<v Becs Gentry>ended  up  either  at  my  favorite  juice  bar  or  in 

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<v Becs Gentry>the  ocean  with  Tallulah.  It  was  what  the  soul  needed. 

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<v Becs Gentry>And  now  we're  back  in  New  York  and  busy  trying 

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<v Becs Gentry>to  crack  away  at  a  few  more  weeks  of  training, 

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<v Becs Gentry>before  Grandma's,  which  is  going  okay.  I'm  not  going  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>go  into  it.  It's  going  okay.  It's  not  going  as 

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<v Becs Gentry>well  as  I'd  like  it  to  be  going,  so  we 

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<v Becs Gentry>might  have  to  readdress  some  goals,  but  that's  okay,  because 

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<v Becs Gentry>that's  what  goals  are.  You  can  address  them,  you  can 

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<v Becs Gentry>assess  them, and  you  can  reset  them.  Anyway,  enough  about  me.


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<v Becs Gentry>We  have  a  fantastic  show  here  today.  We  have  a 

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<v Becs Gentry>lot  of  emotion  and  a  lot  of  information  for  all 

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<v Becs Gentry>humans  on  today's  show.  First  up,  we  are  going  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>hear  the  incredible  story  of  Shaunta- Mae  Alexander.  She's  an 

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<v Becs Gentry>athlete,  author,  and  speaker  who  has  relearned  how  to  walk 

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<v Becs Gentry>and  then  run  after  being  paralyzed  twice.  Yeah,  I'll  let 

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<v Becs Gentry>that  settle  in.  If  you  want  to  check  out  her 

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<v Becs Gentry>Instagram  and  see  a  deep  dive  detail  on  her  life 

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<v Becs Gentry>story,  please  do  so  after  the  show.  It  will  just 

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<v Becs Gentry>enlighten  you  and  a  hundred  percent  it  will  inspire  you 

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<v Becs Gentry>in  whatever  you  are  doing  in  your  life.
 After  Shaunta-

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<v Becs Gentry>Mae,  we  have  the  dual  board- certified  dermatologist,  Jane  Yoo. 

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<v Becs Gentry>She's  going  to  be  here  to  talk  with  Rob  about 

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<v Becs Gentry>everything  you  didn't  know  you  needed  to  know  about  skincare 

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<v Becs Gentry>for  runners.  Yeah,  there's  a  lot  there.  A  lot  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>unpack  there,  and  critical  information,  as  we  said.  You  all 

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<v Becs Gentry>need  to  be  looking  after  your  skin  when  we're  doing 

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<v Becs Gentry>those  miles.  Okay?  So  take  notes.  And  then  for  those 

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<v Becs Gentry>of  you  who  might  be  coming  off  a  recent  marathon 

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<v Becs Gentry>or  half- marathon,  Meb  will  be  here  with  some  advice 

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<v Becs Gentry>on  how  to  overcome  your  post- race  blues,  specifically  half-

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<v Becs Gentry>marathon  blues.
 I  know,  from  coming  back  from  London,  there's 

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<v Becs Gentry>definitely  some  post- marathon  blues  for  Austin,  although  he  didn't 

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<v Becs Gentry>have  the  greatest  of  races;  the  weather,  he  had  a 

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<v Becs Gentry>back  injury  that  sparked  the  night  before  the  race,  so 

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<v Becs Gentry>he's  definitely  got  some  post- marathon  redemption  blues  coming  his 

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<v Becs Gentry>way.  So  I  cannot  wait  to  listen  to  that  part 

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<v Becs Gentry>of  the  show  myself  as  well.
 Try  the  Peloton  app 

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 Shaunta-

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<v Becs Gentry>Mae  Alexander  is  a  disabled  adaptive  athlete.  She  is  also 

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<v Becs Gentry>a  children's  book  author,  an  actress,  and  an  advocate.  Diagnosed 

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<v Becs Gentry>with  Crohn's  disease  as  a  teenager,  she  has  survived  countless 

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<v Becs Gentry>medical  setbacks  including  two  episodes  of  paralysis,  and  now  uses 

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<v Becs Gentry>a  feeding  tube  to  stay  alive.  But  this  past  March, 

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<v Becs Gentry>a  mere  two  years  after  relearning  how  to  walk,  she 

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<v Becs Gentry>completed  the  United  Airlines  NYC  Half  with  my  fellow  Peloton 

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<v Becs Gentry>instructor, Tunde  Oyeneyin,  by  her  side.  Shaunta- Mae  is  the  embodiment 

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<v Becs Gentry>of  purpose  and  perseverance,  and  she  is  here  today  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>talk  to  us  about  what  is  possible  when  you  run 

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<v Becs Gentry>your  own  race.
 Shaunta- Mae,  I  am  beyond  honored  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>have  you  here  as  a  guest  on  Set  the  Pace 

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<v Becs Gentry>today.  Thank  you  for  sharing  your  time  with  us  and 

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<v Becs Gentry>for  sharing  your  story  with  us.  You  are  unbelievable.  I 

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<v Becs Gentry>love  seeing  your  smiling  face  in  the  studio.  I  love 

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<v Becs Gentry>seeing  Tunde  coming  in  after  class  saying, " That  girl  does 

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<v Becs Gentry>not  know  chill."  How  are  you  today?

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  am  well.  I'm  well.  I'm  feeling  good.  Yeah,  I'm 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>grateful  to  be  here.  I'm  grateful  to  share  space  with 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>you  all  and  to  continue  to  share  my  story  and 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>encourage  so  many  people.

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<v Becs Gentry>You  do.  You  truly,  truly  do  with  everything  you  do, 

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<v Becs Gentry>and  I'm  sure  there's  been  many  times  in  your  life 

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<v Becs Gentry>where  you  have  thought, " There's  no  way  anyone  else  is 

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<v Becs Gentry>going  through  this.  There's  no  way  my  story  can  help 

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<v Becs Gentry>anyone  else."  And  then  you  come  to  another  part  in 

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<v Becs Gentry>your  journey  and  realize  that  there  are  hundreds  and  thousands 

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<v Becs Gentry>and  more  faces  who  are  watching  out  for  you,  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>see  your  smile,  to  see  you  get  through.  Let's  dive 

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<v Becs Gentry>into  that.  Let's  dive  into  you.  Who  is  Shaunta- Mae 

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<v Becs Gentry>Alexander  and  what  was  your  relationship  to  moving,  in  any 

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<v Becs Gentry>capacity  that  you  desire  to  talk  about.  As  a  kid, 

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<v Becs Gentry>you  grew  up  in  foster  care.  Is  that  correct?

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Yes.

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<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.  Was  there  movement  in  your  life?  What  was  it  like?

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Growing  up  in  foster  care  was  not  easy  at  all. 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  had  a  very,  very  rough  childhood.  My  foster  homes 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>were  not  the  best, and  that's  putting  it  lightly.  I  used 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>movement  as  it  related  to  sports  as  one  of  my 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>outlets.  I  also  used  acting  as  one  of  my  outlets. 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  started  acting  when  I  was about five  years  old  in  little 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>school  plays  and  things,  and  running,  probably  around  the  same 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>time.  As  a  kid,  running  was  a  way  for  me 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>to ...  Running  and  playing  basketball  was a way for me  to  just  expel  all of 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>the  negative  energy  and  all  of  the  trauma  and  pain 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  I  was  enduring  in  these  homes  that  I  could 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>not  express  inside  the  home.
 So  being  viewed  at  school, 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>on  the  playground  with  other  kids  sometimes  and then  other  times 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>just  by  myself,  I  was  able  to  run  and  get 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  all  out.  I  was  able  to  do  the  same 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>thing  with  acting.  Acting  was a way for me  to  take  on  another  person, 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>another  character's  life  as  my  own.  It  was a way for me  to  escape 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>my  own  reality.  And  so  I  fell  in  love  with 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>all  of  it.  Basketball  as  well.  Basketball,  I  like  to 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>say  basketball  was  my  first  taste  of  self- advocacy  as 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>a  kid,  because  growing  up  as  a  little  girl,  especially 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>back  in  the  nineties,  playing  basketball  was  technically  a  boys 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>sport.  Girls  can't  play  basketball.  They  don't  know  how  to 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>play  basketball.  And  so  for  me,  I  was  like, " That's 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>fine.  I'll  show  you."
And so  I  would  sit  and  I  would 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>watch  the  boys  play  basketball  and  I  would  play  the 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>little  games  on  the  Sega  Genesis  and  all of  that,  so 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  I  could  learn  the  techniques. And  then  I'd  get  back 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>out  there  and  I'd  ball  out  and  I'd  hoop  and 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>they'd  have  no  choice  but  to  accept  me.  So  that 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>was  a  way  for  me  to  not  only  advocate  for 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>myself  and  make  space  and  have  a  voice  for  myself 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that I  didn't  have  within  these  homes,  but  it  was  also 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>a  way  to  show  other  girls.  I  didn't  know  it 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>then,  but  it  gave  other  girls  at  the  time  permission 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>to  do  the  same, " Well,  if  she's  out  there  playing 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>basketball  when  all  these  boys  say  it's  not  for  girls, 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>then  I  want  to  do  it  too."  So  that  was 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>my  first  taste,  first  taste  in  that.
 Movement  has  always 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>been  a  part  of  my  life.  As  far  as  the 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>actual  fitness  aspect  and  weight  training  and  lifting  and  all 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>of  those  things,  I  was  not  a  fan  of  that. I was not a fan of that. 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Just  give  me  the  ball  so  I  can  shoot  it, so I can 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>run  up  and  down  the  court.  Just  give  me  my  100-

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>meter  hurdles,  my  200s,  my  400s,  my  long  jumps,  just 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>give  me  that  and  I'm  good.  All  of  this  weight 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>training  stuff,  I'm  not  interested.  Distance  running,  I'm  not  interested. 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Just  give  me  the  meat.
 But  it  wasn't  until  I 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>lost  my  mobility,  after  having  a  colonoscopy  for  severe  Crohn's 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>flare  that  I  was  in  and  developed  a  rare  reaction 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>to  the  anesthesia  that  was  used,  that  I  found  a 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>new  respect,  a  new,  I  guess  you  could  say,  gratitude 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>for  movement.  When  we  have  the  ability  of  our  limbs 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>and  the  ability  to  speak  and  to  think  in  our 

0:11:07.110 --> 0:11:09.240
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>right  minds  and  be  able  to  do  little  things  like 

0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:13.020
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>picking  things  up  and  setting  things  down,  tying  your  shoes, 

0:11:13.230 --> 0:11:17.160
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>you  take  all  of  that  for  granted  and  you  don't 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>realize  how  special  that  really  is,  how  privileged  you  really 

0:11:21.900 --> 0:11:24.870
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>are  to  have  those  movements  and  those  abilities  until  it's 

0:11:24.870 --> 0:11:29.460
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>taken  from  you.
 And  so  when  I  lost  my  movement 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>and  I  lost  my  ability  to  speak,  and  I  lost 

0:11:31.830 --> 0:11:37.410
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>my  ability  to  form  real  tangible  thoughts  and  not  be 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>able  to  articulate  those  the  way  that  I  wanted  to, 

0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:46.860
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  just  developed  this  gratitude.  Specifically  when  it  came  to 

0:11:46.890 --> 0:11:50.370
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>walking,  I  made  a  promise  to  God.  I  said, " God, 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>if  you  restore  my  walking,  if  you  restore  my  movement, 

0:11:53.730 --> 0:11:56.250
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I'll  run  like  I've  never  ran  before,  I'll  walk  like 

0:11:56.250 --> 0:11:58.679
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I've  never  walked  before,  and  I  will  dance  like  I've 

0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.189
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>never  danced  before."  That  was  the  bow  that  I  made 

0:12:02.190 --> 0:12:05.490
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>to  God,  and  He  kept  his  end  of  the  bargain 

0:12:05.490 --> 0:12:11.189
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>and  I  kept  mine.  But  what  I  was  not  ready 

0:12:11.190 --> 0:12:14.400
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>for,  what  I  was  not  prepared  for,  was  falling  in 

0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.400
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>love  with  the  sport  and  the  process.  This  was  just 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>a  vow  that I  originally  made.  I  was  just  going  to 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>do  that,  but  I  actually  fell  in  love  with  movement. 

0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.260
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  fell  in  love  with  running.  I  fell  in  love 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>with  cycling,  which  I  didn't  even  know  existed  until  2022. 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>And  picking  up  weights?

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<v Becs Gentry>Nah.

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>You  couldn't  get  me  to  do  it.  You  couldn't  get 

0:12:38.940 --> 0:12:43.319
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>me to  do  it.  You  couldn't  bribe  me.  So  this  is 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>not  just  a  vow  to  God,  it's a vow  to  myself.  It's 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>a  way  of  saying  thanks  to  my  body  every  single 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>day.  It's  a  way  for  me  to  be  the  voice 

0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.460
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>for  so  many  people  who  are  out  there  with  disabilities 

0:13:02.460 --> 0:13:07.380
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>and  different  abilities  and  children  all over  the  world  who  have 

0:13:07.380 --> 0:13:10.001
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>also  had  hard  lives,  whether  in  foster  care,  battered  (inaudible)

0:13:10.001 --> 0:13:13.110
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>,  being  sick  themselves.  This  is  just  a  way  for 

0:13:13.110 --> 0:13:16.949
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>me  to  say, " Hey,  you're  not  in  this  alone.  I'm 

0:13:16.950 --> 0:13:24.750
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>here  with  you."  It's  just  a  sum  of  everything  working 

0:13:24.750 --> 0:13:25.800
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>together  for  my  good.

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<v Becs Gentry>Everything  coming  together  and  it  all  being  sealed  with  that 

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<v Becs Gentry>vow  is  so  beautiful  and  so  strong.  Shaunta- Mae,  just 

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<v Becs Gentry>for  our  listeners  who  may  not  understand  the  severity  of 

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<v Becs Gentry>Crohn's  and  Crohn's  disease,  I  feel  like  in  this  transient 

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<v Becs Gentry>world  we  live  in,  many  disease  names  are  thrown  around 

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<v Becs Gentry>and  people  nod  their  heads  as  though  they  know  exactly 

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<v Becs Gentry>what  it  is.  And  then  it  doesn't  affect  them,  so 

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<v Becs Gentry>they  don't  really  know  what  it  is.  Just  explain  to 

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<v Becs Gentry>our  audience  quickly  what  Crohn's  disease  is  and  how  your 

0:14:06.870 --> 0:14:11.940
<v Becs Gentry>situation  took  the  turn,  not  how  but  why,  let's  say, 

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<v Becs Gentry>why  it  took  the  turn  it  did.  Do  you  mind 

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<v Becs Gentry>going  into  that?

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Sure,  yeah. Crohn's disease  is  an  autoimmune  disease  under  the  umbrella  called 

0:14:21.390 --> 0:14:25.500
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>IBD,  which  stands  for  inflammatory  bowel  disease.  That  is  Crohn's 

0:14:25.500 --> 0:14:32.910
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>disease,  ulcerative  colitis.  Those  are  the  sister  conditions.  Basically  what 

0:14:33.450 --> 0:14:38.250
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Crohn's  disease  does  is,  your  immune  system  attacks  your  digestive 

0:14:38.250 --> 0:14:43.860
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>system  anywhere  from  your  mouth  to  your  behind.  Everything attached  to 

0:14:43.860 --> 0:14:48.390
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>your  digestive  system  is  attacked.  So  it  causes  stomach  pain, 

0:14:48.750 --> 0:15:01.350
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>internal  bleeding,  ulcers,  nausea,  malnutrition,  lack  of  bowel  control,  all 

0:15:01.350 --> 0:15:08.280
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>kinds  of  different  nitty- gritty  symptoms  that  basically  aren't  fun. 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>It  is  debilitating.  It's  not  fun.  It's  very  excruciating.  I 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>got  sick  at  the  age  of  nine,  but  wasn't  diagnosed 

0:15:23.700 --> 0:15:28.740
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>until,  I  believe,  I  was  14  or  15  years  old.

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<v Becs Gentry>Oh my gosh.

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>So  I  went  through  middle  school  and  high  school  sick.

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<v Becs Gentry>Oh  my God.

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>At  that  time,  I  didn't  have  the  support,  which  is 

0:15:38.700 --> 0:15:42.270
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>another  reason  why  I  advocate  and  do  what  I  do 

0:15:42.270 --> 0:15:46.320
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>now,  because  I  felt  alone  in  my  process,  as  a 

0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.050
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>kid,  as  a  teen,  in  middle  school  and  high  school. 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>You  can  only  imagine  how  hard  that  can  be,  especially 

0:15:52.050 --> 0:15:55.000
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>when  kids don't  understand.

0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:55.710
<v Becs Gentry>(inaudible)   the  pain  and-

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Yeah.  And  so  for  me,  what  that  looked  like  for 

0:16:00.570 --> 0:16:06.570
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>me  was  having  to  bring  an  extra  bag  of  clothes 

0:16:07.770 --> 0:16:11.880
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>in  case  I  used  the  bathroom  on  myself.  I  was 

0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:17.280
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>in  diapers  in  middle  school  and  high  school.  Medication,  having 

0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:25.110
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>to  pack  my  own  food  and  then  having  to deal  with 

0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:31.920
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>the  questions  and  the  jokes  and  all  the  things  about 

0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.250
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>being  small.  I  was  very  tiny,  and  at  the  time 

0:16:35.250 --> 0:16:40.260
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  didn't  know  it,  but I  was  severely  malnourished.  And  so, 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>again,  I  just  wish  I'd  had  the  me  that  I 

0:16:48.780 --> 0:16:56.130
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>am  now  when  I  was  going  through  this  process.  I 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>think  it's  a  beautiful  time  to  share  this  and  to 

0:17:00.330 --> 0:17:03.570
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>share  this  journey  and  to  share  about  Crohn's  disease,  especially 

0:17:03.630 --> 0:17:09.840
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>because  yesterday  was  World  International  IBD  Day,  Crohn's  Disease  Day, 

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>which  I  think  is  also  crazy  as  well  because  it 

0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.160
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>was  also  my  birthday.  I  think  it  was  kind  of  kismet.

0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:17.940
<v Becs Gentry>No.

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Yeah.

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<v Becs Gentry>Happy  belated  birthday.

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Thank  you. Thank you. I think it was kismet.  I  think  this  was  just  part  of  something 

0:17:25.740 --> 0:17:27.359
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that was  always  going  to  be  a  part  of  my  journey. 

0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:33.659
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>But  for  those of you that  are  dealing  with  the  symptoms  and  dealing 

0:17:34.109 --> 0:17:38.190
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>with  family  members  or  friends  or  just  know  somebody  that 

0:17:38.190 --> 0:17:42.090
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>struggles  with  stomach  issues,  I  just  implore  you,  one,  to 

0:17:42.090 --> 0:17:45.600
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>make  sure  that  you're  advocating  for  yourself.  Make  sure  that 

0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.619
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>you're  getting  in  with a  GI  team,  not  accepting  no  for 

0:17:49.619 --> 0:17:54.720
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>an  answer.  That  was  a  big  part  of  my  process 

0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.210
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>because  it  took  so  long  for  me  to  be  diagnosed. 

0:17:57.630 --> 0:18:01.273
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>And  that  affected  my  mental  state.  There  was  a  lot 

0:18:01.275 --> 0:18:03.510
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>of  times  when  these  doctors  would  say  that  it  was 

0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.020
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>in  my  head  or  that it  was  stress  related,  and  that's 

0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:14.100
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>daunting,  especially  as  a  kid  who  is  suffering.  So  I 

0:18:14.100 --> 0:18:17.310
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>want  you  guys  to  advocate  for  yourselves.  Don't  give  up. 

0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.240
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Know  that  this  is  not  the  end  of  your  journey 

0:18:22.230 --> 0:18:25.709
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>and  that  you  can  still  have  a  beautiful  and  meaningful 

0:18:25.709 --> 0:18:27.240
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>life  with  this  condition.

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<v Becs Gentry>Absolutely.  Look  at  your  story.

0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:30.840
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Yeah.

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<v Becs Gentry>So  you  had  this  terrible  flare- up  that  ended  up 

0:18:37.170 --> 0:18:46.500
<v Becs Gentry>with  you  being  hospitalized.  Let's  fast- forward  a  little  bit 

0:18:46.500 --> 0:18:53.129
<v Becs Gentry>to  January  1st,  2022.  That  was  after  your  second  paralysis, 

0:18:54.330 --> 0:18:58.650
<v Becs Gentry>and  you've  already  kind  of  fought  for  your  life.  You've 

0:18:58.650 --> 0:19:04.859
<v Becs Gentry>already  fought  to  restart,  to  reset,  to  put  every  teeny 

0:19:04.859 --> 0:19:13.230
<v Becs Gentry>tiny  teeniest  tiniest  ounce  of  energy  into  standing  up  and 

0:19:14.070 --> 0:19:17.640
<v Becs Gentry>saying  no,  or  being  like, "Uh- uh.  I've  got  this.  I've 

0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.790
<v Becs Gentry>got  this  back."  And  then  that's  taken  away  from  you 

0:19:20.790 --> 0:19:26.100
<v Becs Gentry>again.  What  was  going  through  your  mind?  You've  already  said 

0:19:26.100 --> 0:19:31.080
<v Becs Gentry>it  was  so  hard  for  you  to  talk,  to  explain 

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.770
<v Becs Gentry>your  thoughts  in  your  head.  When  you  were  alone  in 

0:19:34.770 --> 0:19:38.550
<v Becs Gentry>those  moments  of  thinking,  like, " Please  God,  this  is  the 

0:19:38.550 --> 0:19:43.320
<v Becs Gentry>second  time  I'm  going  through  this,"  how?  How  did  you 

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.470
<v Becs Gentry>get  that  strength  to  just  say, " I'm  going  to  do 

0:19:46.470 --> 0:19:47.129
<v Becs Gentry>this  again"?

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>It  was  extremely  difficult.  I  went  through ...  especially  the  second 

0:19:53.790 --> 0:19:58.440
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>time,  I  went  through  this  deep,  deep  depression.  At  this 

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:05.700
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>point,  I'm  not  quite  33 yet,  and  all  I've  known  was 

0:20:05.700 --> 0:20:12.930
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>trauma  and  pain  and  sickness  and  illness.  When  I  relapsed 

0:20:12.930 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>with  this  condition  for  the  second  time,  and  I  did 

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:20.159
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>not  recover  as  quickly  as  I  did  the  first  time, 

0:20:20.369 --> 0:20:22.770
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  didn't  get  to  my  baseline  as  quickly  as  I 

0:20:22.770 --> 0:20:26.820
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>did  the  first  time,  I  was  ready  to fold in  the  towel. 

0:20:27.929 --> 0:20:30.990
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  was  like, " I  don't  want  this  anymore.  I  don't 

0:20:30.990 --> 0:20:36.540
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>want  to  fight  anymore."
 I  say  often  that  people  make 

0:20:36.540 --> 0:20:40.709
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>New  Year's  resolutions  and  they  declare  new  things  for  their 

0:20:40.710 --> 0:20:44.670
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>new  year  and  all  of  this,  and  I  think  that's 

0:20:44.670 --> 0:20:48.660
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>beautiful.  I  love  that  people  set  intentions  for  themselves  ahead 

0:20:48.660 --> 0:20:50.820
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>of  time.  They  see  something  and  they  want  to  go 

0:20:50.820 --> 0:20:53.730
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>for  it,  and  they  do  the  work  to  make  those 

0:20:53.880 --> 0:21:00.270
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>intentions  happen.  For  myself,  I  don't  want  to  say  I've 

0:21:00.300 --> 0:21:04.380
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>never  done  it,  but  I  don't  necessarily  subscribe  to  New 

0:21:04.380 --> 0:21:07.409
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Year's  resolutions.  For  me,  if  I  want  to  make  a 

0:21:07.410 --> 0:21:09.000
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>change,  I'm  going  to  make  it  now.  As  soon  as 

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.490
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  think  it  and I  say  I want  to  do  something  different, 

0:21:11.490 --> 0:21:15.630
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>immediately  I'm  going  into  action  on  how  I  can  put 

0:21:15.630 --> 0:21:18.990
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>this  forward,  how  I  can  set  this  forward.  It  just 

0:21:18.990 --> 0:21:25.890
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>so  happened  that  this  thought  process  of, " I'm  done  allowing 

0:21:25.890 --> 0:21:30.389
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>my  disabilities  to  determine  my  quality  of  life.  I'm  done 

0:21:30.630 --> 0:21:33.330
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>allowing  my  disabilities  to  rule  my  life  for  me,"  it 

0:21:33.330 --> 0:21:38.489
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>just  so  happened  that  it happened  to  fall  on  January 1st of  2022.

0:21:38.550 --> 0:21:39.030
<v Becs Gentry>Wow.

0:21:41.010 --> 0:21:42.780
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Crazy.  I  was, " Okay,  well."

0:21:43.199 --> 0:21:43.200
<v Becs Gentry>Crazy.

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>" Let's  do  it."

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<v Becs Gentry>Yeah.

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<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>So  I  had-

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<v Becs Gentry>33  years  of, " No,  I'm  not  doing  that."  And  then all of a sudden 

0:21:49.650 --> 0:21:51.630
<v Becs Gentry>you're  like, " Oh,  this  is  the  biggest  one  yet."

0:21:51.630 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Yeah.  This  is enough. Enough. Enough.  I  want  to  make  my  dreams  a 

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:01.890
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>reality.  I  want  to  enjoy  my  life.  I  don't  want 

0:22:01.890 --> 0:22:06.510
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>to  live  suffering  anymore.  I  don't  want  that  anymore.  So 

0:22:07.350 --> 0:22:10.500
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>if  that  means that  I  have  to  act  from  my  wheelchair, 

0:22:10.530 --> 0:22:13.980
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>then  I  will  act  from  my  wheelchair.  If  that  means 

0:22:13.980 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  I  am  going  to  be  on  big  stages  and I have to do 

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  from  my  wheelchair,  I  will  do  that.  If  that 

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:21.540
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>means  I  have  to  be  an  author  from  my  chair, 

0:22:21.540 --> 0:22:23.940
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I'm  going  to  do  that.  I'm  going  to  be  the 

0:22:23.940 --> 0:22:30.990
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>strongest  actress,  author,  motivational  speaker  from  my  wheelchair.  Let's  do 

0:22:30.990 --> 0:22:34.980
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>it.  I'm  done.  My  disabilities ...  And  that  is  my  motto. 

0:22:34.980 --> 0:22:38.220
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  live  by  it  daily.  I  profess  it  daily.  My 

0:22:38.220 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>disabilities  do  not  disqualify  me  for  my  purpose.  They  don't.


0:22:46.020 --> 0:22:48.240
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  have  to  do  things  differently,  and  that's  okay.  And 

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:53.490
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  think  when  people  begin  to  understand  that  there  are 

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:57.660
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>different  ways  and  different  avenues  to getting to  your  goals,  to  reaching 

0:22:57.660 --> 0:23:03.750
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>your  dreams,  and  knowing  that  your  possibilities  are  endless  despite 

0:23:03.750 --> 0:23:07.709
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>what  you're  going  through,  despite  your  conditions,  despite  your  life's 

0:23:07.710 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>circumstances,  you  really  become  unstoppable.  And  so  I  was  doing 

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:19.290
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>this  search  on  how  I  can  become  stronger,  and  I'm 

0:23:19.290 --> 0:23:23.430
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>a  huge  fan  of  Cynthia  Erivo.  I've  been  a  fan 

0:23:23.430 --> 0:23:26.939
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>of  hers  since  The  Color  Purple  on  Broadway,  and  I 

0:23:26.940 --> 0:23:29.670
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>would  see  her  getting  on  this  thing  called  a  Peloton 

0:23:29.670 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>bike.  I'm  like, " What is that? I want  to  do it. I want to do that.  I  like  that. I like that.  I 

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:45.419
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>want  it.  I  need  it."
 And  so  I did  all  the 

0:23:45.420 --> 0:23:50.970
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>research  and  finding  out  what  this  thing  called  Peloton  was and 

0:23:51.450 --> 0:23:55.379
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>what  it  does  and  how  I  can  use  it  to 

0:23:55.590 --> 0:23:59.939
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>become  a  better,  stronger  version  of  myself,  disabled  and  all. 

0:24:00.660 --> 0:24:03.869
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>My  god- sister  had  a  Peloton  as  well.  So  I 

0:24:03.869 --> 0:24:05.459
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>reached  out  to  her  and  I  was  like, " Okay,  so 

0:24:05.459 --> 0:24:07.830
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>you  have  a  Peloton.  Tell  me  all  about  it.  I'm 

0:24:07.830 --> 0:24:09.540
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>thinking  about  getting  one."  She  was  just  like, " Do  it." 

0:24:10.140 --> 0:24:10.949
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>That  was  all  I  needed.

0:24:12.210 --> 0:24:12.929
<v Becs Gentry>Without  a  thought.

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Without a  second  thought.  Okay.  So  I  downloaded  the  app  and 

0:24:18.780 --> 0:24:22.740
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  was like, "Okay.  So  I  don't  have  the  bike.  I  can't 

0:24:23.670 --> 0:24:27.090
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>do  heavy  weights  or  anything  like  that.  I  can't  run. 

0:24:27.090 --> 0:24:30.510
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>What  can  I  do  that's  going  to  help  build  my 

0:24:30.510 --> 0:24:35.820
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>strength?"  Light  weights.  I  can  do  those.  I  can  do 

0:24:35.820 --> 0:24:37.950
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>those  from  my  chair.  I  can  do  a  couple  one, 

0:24:37.950 --> 0:24:42.090
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>two,  three  pounds  from  my  wheelchair.  And  so  I  went 

0:24:42.090 --> 0:24:45.150
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>through  the  instructor  list,  all  the  instructors,  and  I  said, "

0:24:45.150 --> 0:24:49.619
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  want  somebody  that  looks  like  me,  that  looks  like 

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:53.070
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>they've  been through some  things  and  have  come  out  on  the  other 

0:24:53.070 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>side."  And  I  saw  Tunde's  picture  and  I  was  like, "

0:24:58.050 --> 0:25:02.250
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Her."  It  was  something  about  the  light  in  her  eyes. 

0:25:02.790 --> 0:25:05.250
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>You  could  just  see  it.  You  could  just  see  it. 

0:25:05.250 --> 0:25:12.179
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>And  so  I  hit  start  on  that  app  and  I 

0:25:12.180 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>would  train  every  day.  I  would  literally  take  three  to 

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:20.429
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>five  arms  and  lightweight  classes  a  day.

0:25:23.100 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Becs Gentry>We  know  those  are  not  easy  classes  from Ms.  Oyeneyin.  Thank  you.

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.550
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>They're not. They're  not.  I  don't  know.

0:25:29.850 --> 0:25:30.090
<v Becs Gentry>Uh-uh.

0:25:31.230 --> 0:25:31.650
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  don't  know.

0:25:32.460 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Becs Gentry>How  she  does  it?

0:25:33.030 --> 0:25:36.690
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  have  no  idea.  I  don't  know.  But  I  knew 

0:25:36.900 --> 0:25:40.170
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  every  time  I  got  into  this  class,  her  words 

0:25:40.170 --> 0:25:46.140
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>were  encouraging,  and  it  just  encouraged  me  to  continue the  fight. 

0:25:47.940 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  felt  stronger  doing  it.  I  felt  the  strongest  I've 

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:51.030
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>ever  felt.

0:25:51.030 --> 0:25:51.300
<v Becs Gentry>Absolutely.

0:25:52.859 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  haven't  turned  back  since.

0:25:56.220 --> 0:25:59.580
<v Becs Gentry>We  love  it.  We  love  it.  Okay,  but  tell  me 

0:25:59.580 --> 0:26:04.050
<v Becs Gentry>though,  with  no  matter  what,  no  matter  how  many  steps 

0:26:04.050 --> 0:26:08.730
<v Becs Gentry>forward  you  get  to  take,  you  know,  as  a  human, 

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:14.550
<v Becs Gentry>that  your  health  is  fragile.  We  all  do.  I  hope 

0:26:14.609 --> 0:26:18.570
<v Becs Gentry>that  we  all  understand  life  is  fragile,  and  from  having 

0:26:18.570 --> 0:26:20.850
<v Becs Gentry>the  setbacks  that  you  had  with  your  health,  I'm  sure 

0:26:20.850 --> 0:26:23.940
<v Becs Gentry>in  the  back  of  your  mind  you  were  thinking, " My 

0:26:23.940 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Becs Gentry>health  is  more  fragile  than  some  other  people,  so  I 

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:31.740
<v Becs Gentry>have  to  protect  my  power  as  it  grows."  How  did 

0:26:31.740 --> 0:26:37.409
<v Becs Gentry>you  know  that  it  was  the  right  time  to  take 

0:26:37.410 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Becs Gentry>all  the  steps  you  did?  So  you  just  talked  about 

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.450
<v Becs Gentry>the  steps  with Tunde  that  encouraged  you  to  do  the  arms 

0:26:42.450 --> 0:26:45.510
<v Becs Gentry>and  lightweights  from  your  chair,  and  then  the  next  step 

0:26:45.510 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Becs Gentry>for  you,  well,  not  the  next  step,  but  a  few 

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:52.408
<v Becs Gentry>steps  later,  but  the  next  really  big  one  was ... Shaunta- Mae, 

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:59.790
<v Becs Gentry>you  decided  to  run.  You  believed  you  could  and  you 

0:26:59.790 --> 0:27:05.700
<v Becs Gentry>did.  But  talk  us  through  how  you,  not  just  physically, 

0:27:05.700 --> 0:27:09.540
<v Becs Gentry>but  mentally  got  to  a  place  where  you  believed  so 

0:27:09.540 --> 0:27:19.020
<v Becs Gentry>powerfully  that  you  could  trust  your  body  again  to  do  this.

0:27:20.730 --> 0:27:25.650
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>There's  this  feeling that  I  get  right  before  a  big  leap 

0:27:25.650 --> 0:27:32.490
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>in  my  movement and  my  life.  It's  hard  to  describe,  but 

0:27:32.490 --> 0:27:36.629
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>it's  just  this  inkling  that  I  get  inside.  Every  time 

0:27:36.630 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  make  a  huge  leap,  I  feel  it,  not  days, 

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:50.130
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>not  weeks,  literally  moments  before I do it.  I  received  my  tread  in 

0:27:50.130 --> 0:27:56.129
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>December  of  2023,  so  I  started  learning  how  to  walk 

0:27:57.090 --> 0:28:08.310
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>December 12th  of ...  Nope,  I'm  lying.  December  2022.  I  started  learning 

0:28:08.310 --> 0:28:12.661
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>how  to  walk  on  the  tread  December  12th,  2022.  Beautiful  numbers.

0:28:12.661 --> 0:28:16.050
<v Becs Gentry>I was going to say  I  remember  as  well.  I  was  away  on  maternity 

0:28:16.050 --> 0:28:18.990
<v Becs Gentry>leave  and  I  came  back,  and  I'd  seen  you  take 

0:28:18.990 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Becs Gentry>some  of  my  classes while I was away  on  maternity.  And then  we  connected  when 

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.869
<v Becs Gentry>I  came  back. So I was  like, " It  must've  been  2022."

0:28:26.010 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Absolutely.  Yeah.  And  so  this  specific  day,  I  want  to 

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:36.750
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>say  it  was  in  February,  I  was  on  the  tread 

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>and  I  was  walking.  And  I  got  that  same  feeling. I said, "

0:28:43.620 --> 0:28:48.330
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  think  I  can  run.  I'm  going  to  try it.  I'm 

0:28:48.330 --> 0:28:52.979
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>going  to  try  it."  Now,  as  I'm  learning  how  to 

0:28:52.980 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>walk,  my  speeds  are  very,  very  slow  on  the  tread. 1.5 to 2.0 

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:10.530
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>speed.  So  for  me,  a  run  was  literally  2. 7,  3. 0.

0:29:12.990 --> 0:29:15.900
<v Becs Gentry>Speed  is  irrelevant,  isn't  it?  It's  the  movement.

0:29:15.900 --> 0:29:16.141
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>It's  the  movement.

0:29:16.141 --> 0:29:16.142
<v Becs Gentry>Mm-hmm.

0:29:16.142 --> 0:29:21.540
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>And so  I  hit  that  button.  I  hit  it  twice.  And 

0:29:21.540 --> 0:29:25.950
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I'm  getting  faster.  My  legs  are  moving  a  little  bit 

0:29:25.950 --> 0:29:29.460
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>faster.  I'm  like, " Oh  my  God."  I  have  the  post 

0:29:29.460 --> 0:29:35.459
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>somewhere  on  my  Instagram  page  where  I'm  actually  doing  it.

0:29:35.460 --> 0:29:35.940
<v Becs Gentry>Hang  on,  I  can  see  it.

0:29:35.940 --> 0:29:41.910
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>This  is  literally  what  happens  every  time.  The same  with  the 

0:29:41.910 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>bike.  I  got  on  the  bike  and  I  was  training 

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:48.690
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>every  day  for  anywhere  from 30 minutes to  two  hours.  But  there  was 

0:29:48.690 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>this  specific  day.  When  I  was  on  my  bike,  I'd 

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.410
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>have  to  use  my  hands  to  pedal  my  legs.  That's 

0:29:55.410 --> 0:29:56.610
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>how  I'd  be  able  to  move  my  legs.  And  I 

0:29:56.610 --> 0:30:00.270
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>did  this  daily  until  one  day  I  was  like, " I 

0:30:00.270 --> 0:30:08.790
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>think  I'm going to  take  my  hands  off. I just want to see." The same feeling. "I just want to see if I can do it." And  I  pedaled.  And I  was  like, "

0:30:08.790 --> 0:30:14.220
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Wait  a  minute."  And I did it  again,  and  again,  and  again.  It's 

0:30:14.220 --> 0:30:14.430
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>just  this-

0:30:14.430 --> 0:30:14.460
<v Becs Gentry>Oh, I have chills.

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>It's  just  this  God  wink,  I'll  call  it  a  God 

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:27.870
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>wink,  that  says, " Mae,  you're  ready.  Mae,  you're  ready.  Mae, 

0:30:27.870 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>you're  ready."  I  think  the  hardest  part  in  that  is 

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>trusting  that  God  wink  while  denouncing  the  doubt  that  you 

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>have  in  your  head.  It's  a  balance  being  like,  what 

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>are  you  going  to  trust  more?  Are you  going  to  trust 

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>the  doubt  or are you  going  to  trust  the  God  wink  that 

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.060
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>has  never  felt  you?  Every  time  you  lean  into  that 

0:30:51.060 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>God  wink,  it  happens  for  you.  That's  just  been  my 

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.870
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>journey.  I  trust  the  God  wink  every  time.

0:30:59.550 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Becs Gentry>So  strongly.  From  the  minute,  I'm  sure,  that  you  stood 

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:08.010
<v Becs Gentry>up  for  the  first  time  after  paralysis  to  taking  those 

0:31:08.310 --> 0:31:13.410
<v Becs Gentry>steps  of  running  on  your  tread,  hands  off  the  thighs 

0:31:13.830 --> 0:31:17.610
<v Becs Gentry>on  the  bike,  lifting  those  heavier  weights,  to  crossing  the 

0:31:17.610 --> 0:31:22.230
<v Becs Gentry>finish  line  at  the  United  Airlines  NYC  Half,  every  God 

0:31:22.230 --> 0:31:27.690
<v Becs Gentry>wink  has  been  a  really,  really  beautiful  one  with  a 

0:31:27.690 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Becs Gentry>big  smile  as  well.  It's  like  a  cheeky  wink.  It's 

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:31.950
<v Becs Gentry>not  just-

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:40.650
<v Becs Gentry>Okay.  Let's  have  a  look  at  the  adaptive  training  that 

0:31:40.650 --> 0:31:45.330
<v Becs Gentry>you've  gone  through,  because  I  think  it's  so  important  for 

0:31:45.330 --> 0:31:49.770
<v Becs Gentry>people,  you  said  this  earlier,  to  understand  that ...  You  said, "

0:31:49.950 --> 0:31:57.300
<v Becs Gentry>Your  disabilities  does  not  disqualify  you."  And  it  needs  to 

0:31:57.300 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Becs Gentry>be  said  louder.  It  needs  to  be  said  louder  every 

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:02.910
<v Becs Gentry>single  day  in  every  single  way  that  people  are  training 

0:32:02.910 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Becs Gentry>around  the  world,  that  there  are  multiple  ways  of  doing 

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.910
<v Becs Gentry>things;  though,  the  way,  the  one  way,  is  not  the 

0:32:08.910 --> 0:32:12.510
<v Becs Gentry>right  way  at  all,  because  it's  not  right  for  everybody. 

0:32:12.660 --> 0:32:14.730
<v Becs Gentry>It  might  be  right  for  that  person.  It's  just  not 

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Becs Gentry>right,  period.

0:32:16.770 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Yeah.

0:32:20.220 --> 0:32:23.310
<v Becs Gentry>When  we  look  at  all  of  the  adaptive  training  that 

0:32:23.310 --> 0:32:24.870
<v Becs Gentry>you've  done,  it's  vast.

0:32:24.930 --> 0:32:25.170
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Yeah.

0:32:25.740 --> 0:32:31.020
<v Becs Gentry>So  where are  you  at  now?  You're  obviously  not  just  doing 

0:32:31.140 --> 0:32:36.060
<v Becs Gentry>one,  two,  three- pound  weights  from  your  chair.  Where  are 

0:32:36.060 --> 0:32:37.950
<v Becs Gentry>we  now?  What's  your  training  like  now?

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:45.780
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Actually,  I  just  finished  week  three  of Tunde's  upper  body  program. 

0:32:46.470 --> 0:32:47.310
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>So  I'm  lifting.

0:32:47.370 --> 0:32:49.410
<v Becs Gentry>Oh  my  gosh,  I'm  so  sorry  for  you.  Do  you 

0:32:49.410 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Becs Gentry>need  me  to  send  a  masseuse  or  something  for  you?

0:32:52.890 --> 0:32:55.381
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>All  of  the  things.  Because  the  woman  is  nuts.

0:32:55.381 --> 0:32:55.621
<v Becs Gentry>The woman is just nuts.

0:32:57.810 --> 0:32:59.551
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>And  this  is  my  second  time  going  through  the program.

0:32:59.551 --> 0:32:59.611
<v Becs Gentry>Okay.

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:02.610
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I'm  a  glutton  for  growth.

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.540
<v Becs Gentry>Yes.  I've  done  it  once  and  that  was  fine.  Thank 

0:33:06.540 --> 0:33:07.230
<v Becs Gentry>you  very  much.

0:33:09.870 --> 0:33:14.460
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>So  I'm  definitely  lifting  a  lot  heavier.  I  find  so 

0:33:14.460 --> 0:33:19.290
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>much  joy  in  doing  lower  body,  and  that  may  just 

0:33:19.470 --> 0:33:24.900
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>be  because  I  didn't  have  the  functionality  of  my  lower 

0:33:24.900 --> 0:33:28.110
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>body  for  quite  some  time, and  so  being  able  to  use 

0:33:28.110 --> 0:33:31.950
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>those  same  legs  and  those  same  muscles  and  joints  that 

0:33:31.950 --> 0:33:35.790
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>were  immobile  at  one  point,  and  being  able  to  press 

0:33:35.790 --> 0:33:40.140
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>heavy  weights  is  just  something  that  just  rocks  my  mind 

0:33:40.140 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>every  time.  I  feel  so  strong  doing  it.  I'm  just 

0:33:45.630 --> 0:33:49.020
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>getting  back  into  running  again.  I  was  sick  for  some 

0:33:49.020 --> 0:33:53.730
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>time,  which  kind  of  comes  with  the  territory.  I  have 

0:33:54.660 --> 0:33:57.630
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>a  suppressed  immune  system,  so  things  take  much  longer.  But 

0:33:57.630 --> 0:34:00.930
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I'm  getting  back  into  running.  I  have  my  next  race 

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:02.190
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>on  the  1st.

0:34:04.709 --> 0:34:05.459
<v Becs Gentry>Which  race?  What?

0:34:07.230 --> 0:34:10.980
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>It  is  the  Women's  Fitness  Festival  that  I  do  every 

0:34:10.980 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>year.  This  is  actually  the  very  first  race  that  I 

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>did  back  in  2023,  so  this  is  a  way  that 

0:34:18.570 --> 0:34:21.779
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  pay  homage.  I  do  this  every  year.  This  year, 

0:34:21.780 --> 0:34:26.219
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  will  be  running  the  10K,  so  I'm  playing  catch-

0:34:26.219 --> 0:34:28.469
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>up  with  training  for  that,  and  then  also  doing  a 

0:34:28.469 --> 0:34:34.770
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>lot  of  cycling.  As  far  as  having  to  adapt,  I 

0:34:34.770 --> 0:34:38.910
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>adapt a lot.  A  lot  of  the  things that  I  have  to  do, 

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.820
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  pay  attention  a  lot  to  my  body.  I  just 

0:34:42.060 --> 0:34:44.190
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>have  to.  As  someone  who-

0:34:44.670 --> 0:34:44.761
<v Becs Gentry>Of  course.

0:34:44.761 --> 0:34:49.230
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>...  lives  with  multiple  conditions  and  disabilities,  I  have  to 

0:34:49.230 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>pay  attention.  Because  the  moment  I  choose  not  to  pay 

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:58.500
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>attention  can  be  the  defining  moment  of  whether  I  go 

0:34:58.500 --> 0:35:03.780
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>from  being  in  a  stable  condition  to  making  myself  critically 

0:35:03.780 --> 0:35:10.170
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>sick,  or  in  an  emergency  situation,  life- threatening  situation.  For 

0:35:10.170 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>me,  the  way  I  care  for  myself  when  I  get 

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.350
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>into  any  workout  is  making  sure  that  my  heart  meds 

0:35:16.350 --> 0:35:20.430
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>are  on  deck.  I  have  to  make  sure  that  my 

0:35:20.430 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>heart  rate  is  at  a  pretty  low  level  before  I 

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:28.650
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>get  into  my  exercises,  my  routine,  my  training.  Because  if 

0:35:28.650 --> 0:35:35.130
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  don't,  I  get  really  sick.
 At  times,  if  I'm 

0:35:35.130 --> 0:35:39.540
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>flaring  with  Crohn's  disease  or  the  gastroparesis,  I  have  to 

0:35:39.540 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>do  my  workouts  on  all  my  feeds,  which  you  guys 

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:51.570
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>have  probably  seen  a  few  times.  Managing  to  spin  or 

0:35:51.570 --> 0:35:55.529
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>lift  weights  or  run  attached  to  my  feeding  tube  is 

0:35:55.800 --> 0:36:00.300
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>an  adjustment,  but  it's  something  I  need  to  do.  And 

0:36:00.300 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>the  days  that  I'm  flaring  from  my  neurological  condition,  what 

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.630
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>does  that  look  like  in  my  training?  That  means  I 

0:36:06.630 --> 0:36:08.910
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>may  have  to  slow  down.  That  means  I  may  have 

0:36:08.910 --> 0:36:13.020
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>to  do  workouts  from  my  floor.  That  means  instead  of 

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:18.569
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>running,  I  may  have  to  walk.  It  means  no  inclines 

0:36:18.570 --> 0:36:21.930
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>at  times. It means  having  to  go  at  a  much  slower  pace. 

0:36:24.180 --> 0:36:28.739
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>But  all  of  this,  all of  this  is  just  an  indicator 

0:36:28.739 --> 0:36:32.550
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  things  may  just  have  to  be  different.  It  doesn't 

0:36:32.550 --> 0:36:35.280
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>mean  that  you  can't  do  them.  It  doesn't  mean  that 

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.130
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>you're  less  qualified  to  do them.  It  doesn't  mean  that  you're 

0:36:38.130 --> 0:36:41.460
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>not  worthy  of  doing  them.  It  just  means  that  you 

0:36:41.460 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>have  to  lean  into  the  pivot  a  little  bit.  When 

0:36:45.030 --> 0:36:48.870
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>you  lean  into  the  pivot,  you  realize  that  you're  not 

0:36:48.870 --> 0:36:52.739
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>limited.  You're  not  limited.  You  can  do  it  all.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:58.169
<v Becs Gentry>Absolutely.  You  can.  You  can.  Doing  it  all  for  you, 

0:36:58.530 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Becs Gentry>recently,  or  this  year  let's  say,  culminated  in  such  a 

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Becs Gentry>magical  day  in  March  where ...  I  mean,  I  saw  you, 

0:37:08.610 --> 0:37:10.770
<v Becs Gentry>was  it  the  day  before  or  two  days  before?  I 

0:37:10.770 --> 0:37:12.780
<v Becs Gentry>don't  remember  whether  it  was  the  Friday  or  the  Saturday. 

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.630
<v Becs Gentry>You  were  in  studio.  You  took  a  cycling  class  with 

0:37:15.660 --> 0:37:18.900
<v Becs Gentry>Tundes.  You  were  exhausted.  You  said  to  me  like, "Becs,  I'm 

0:37:18.900 --> 0:37:23.370
<v Becs Gentry>tired.  I'm  really  tired.  I'm  not  feeling  a  hundred  percent." 

0:37:23.790 --> 0:37:26.700
<v Becs Gentry>Tunde  and  I  were  like, " Chill.  Just  take  this  class 

0:37:26.700 --> 0:37:32.070
<v Becs Gentry>as  easy  as  you  want. This  is  your  shakeout  moment."  And 

0:37:32.070 --> 0:37:36.390
<v Becs Gentry>then  the  next  morning,  there  you  were,  shining  so  bright 

0:37:36.660 --> 0:37:40.410
<v Becs Gentry>with  the  biggest  smile.  I'm  not  going  to  take  away 

0:37:40.410 --> 0:37:42.270
<v Becs Gentry>from  the  fact  that  I  know  it  was ...  You  had 

0:37:42.270 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Becs Gentry>some  tough  moments.  Every  single  runner  has  tough  moments  when 

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Becs Gentry>they  go  through  race  day.  It's  not  just  you.  But 

0:37:49.860 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Becs Gentry>let's  think  about  the  positives  and the  amazingness.  Is  there  a 

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:57.450
<v Becs Gentry>moment  from  that  day  that  you  still  think  back  to 

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:01.500
<v Becs Gentry>that  gives  you  the  chills  of  like, " Oh  my  gosh.  Wow."

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>There's  a  couple  of  them  for  me.  Yeah.  I'd  probably 

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:15.870
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>say  one  of  the  biggest  ones  for  me,  and  I'd 

0:38:15.870 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>say  maybe  for  Tunde  as  well,  we're  on the  FDR  and 

0:38:21.690 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>we  see  a  runner  who's  not  looking  the  best.  Tunde 

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:33.180
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>spots  her  first,  and  she  grabbed  my  attention,  and  I 

0:38:33.180 --> 0:38:38.130
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>noticed  her  as  well.  We're  just  watching  to  see  how 

0:38:38.130 --> 0:38:40.290
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>she's  doing,  see  if  she  kind  of  picks  things  up. 

0:38:41.969 --> 0:38:51.150
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Tunde  is  fine,  I'm  fighting  for  my  life,  but  seeing 

0:38:51.150 --> 0:38:56.700
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>her  kind  of  took  my  mind  off  of  the  pain 

0:38:56.700 --> 0:38:59.129
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  I  was  experiencing,  right?

0:38:59.130 --> 0:39:00.795
<v Becs Gentry>Distraction.  Right.  Mm- hmm.

0:39:00.795 --> 0:39:04.529
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Her  wellbeing,  her  safety  became  a  priority  for  the  both 

0:39:04.530 --> 0:39:08.009
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>of  us.  So  we  continued  to  watch  her,  and  she 

0:39:08.010 --> 0:39:12.150
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>just  continued  to  go  downhill,  and  at  one  point,  she 

0:39:12.150 --> 0:39:16.140
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>had  gone  off  to  the  side  and  it  wasn't  good. 

0:39:16.140 --> 0:39:20.669
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>It  looked  like  she  was  going  to  topple  over.  We 

0:39:20.670 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>ran  over  and  we  grabbed  her  and  we  got  her 

0:39:23.010 --> 0:39:27.930
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>to  safety.  We  got  her  to  the  medics.
 I  think 

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.290
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>the  beautiful  thing  about  that  that  I  love  so  much 

0:39:31.290 --> 0:39:37.890
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>is, it is  a  reflection  of  what  the  running  community  looks  like. 

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:47.730
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>It's  selfless.  You  want  to  see  everybody  win.  You  want 

0:39:47.730 --> 0:39:53.670
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>to  see  everybody  well.  And  to  be  able  to  take 

0:39:54.030 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>not  necessarily  the  pressure  off  of  ourselves  and  our  race, 

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:02.010
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>but  to  take  our  thoughts  out  of  doing  our  own 

0:40:02.010 --> 0:40:05.820
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>thing,  to  lend  a  hand,  to  help  somebody  else  in 

0:40:05.820 --> 0:40:09.570
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>need  more  than  wanting  to  finish  this  race  at  a 

0:40:09.570 --> 0:40:14.550
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>certain  time  or  in  whatever  capacity,  was  just  a  beautiful 

0:40:14.550 --> 0:40:21.270
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>moment.  That's  one  I  will  never  forget.  She  did  end 

0:40:21.270 --> 0:40:24.780
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>up  reaching  out  to  us  after  the  race  and  said 

0:40:24.780 --> 0:40:26.340
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  she  got  the  help  that  she  needed,  and  she 

0:40:26.340 --> 0:40:28.320
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>was  actually  able  to  get  back  on  the  course  and 

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:29.130
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>finish  the  race.

0:40:29.130 --> 0:40:29.370
<v Becs Gentry>Yay.  Perfect.

0:40:30.810 --> 0:40:33.150
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>So  that  was  absolutely  beautiful.

0:40:34.260 --> 0:40:34.830
<v Becs Gentry>Yes.

0:40:36.210 --> 0:40:42.570
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Another,  which  actually  happened  a  lot.  One  of  the  things 

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  Tunde  kept  repeating  to  me  while  on  this  course  was, "

0:40:47.340 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Pick  your  head  up.  I  want  you  to  see  the 

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:55.140
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>beauty  around  you."  Every  time  she  said  that,  it  took 

0:40:55.140 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>my  mind  off  of  the  pain  and  on  the  moment 

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:02.219
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that I  was  actually  doing  something  that  I  never  imagined  for 

0:41:02.219 --> 0:41:07.890
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>myself.  I  never  saw  myself  running  13. 1  miles.  Even 

0:41:07.950 --> 0:41:10.890
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>up  to  the  beginning  of  starting  the  race,  I  was  like, "

0:41:10.890 --> 0:41:13.860
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I'm  really  about  to  do  this?  This  doesn't  feel  real." 

0:41:15.270 --> 0:41:16.950
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>So  every  time  she  told  me  to " pick  my  head 

0:41:16.950 --> 0:41:19.020
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>up,  I  want  you  to  see  the  beauty  around  you," 

0:41:19.620 --> 0:41:23.100
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>it  gave  a  new  perspective.  It  gave  a  new  light 

0:41:24.660 --> 0:41:28.109
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>about  running  this  race,  and  I  got  to  see  so 

0:41:28.110 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>many  people  on  their  own  journeys  running  their  own  race 

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>at  their  own  pace.  It  was  absolutely  beautiful.
 Running  with 

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.980
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Team  for  Kids,  so  that  the  kids  could  see  somebody 

0:41:43.980 --> 0:41:46.350
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>like  myself  and  so  many  other  people  that  are  out 

0:41:46.350 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>there  running  the  race,  disabled  and  all,  in  pain  and 

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:55.140
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>all,  was  absolutely  beautiful.  And  had  she  not  taken  me 

0:41:55.140 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>out  of  my  pain  by  telling  me  to  simply  pick 

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:01.140
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>my  head  up  and  see  all  the  beauty  around  me, 

0:42:01.140 --> 0:42:07.770
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  would've  missed  it.  Those  are  probably  the two  most  pivotal 

0:42:07.770 --> 0:42:11.370
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>moments  for  me  in  that  race.  Oh,  wait,  one  more.

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.230
<v Becs Gentry>(inaudible) .  Of  course,  please.

0:42:13.230 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Finish  the  race.  Finishing.

0:42:17.430 --> 0:42:17.671
<v Becs Gentry>Well,  yes.

0:42:17.671 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Finishing  the  race.  Crossing  that  finish  line.  Crossing  that  finish 

0:42:22.799 --> 0:42:28.830
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>line  was ...  yeah.  I  came  home  from  that  and  I've 

0:42:28.890 --> 0:42:32.069
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>literally  been  living  like  this  ever  since.  You  really  can't 

0:42:32.070 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>tell  me  anything  now.

0:42:35.100 --> 0:42:35.101
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah, you can't. I'm fine.

0:42:35.101 --> 0:42:35.102
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>If I want to do it, I'm going to do it.

0:42:35.102 --> 0:42:43.050
<v Becs Gentry>Yes,  you  are. You are.  I'm  sure  every  step  of  that  13.1, 

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:49.860
<v Becs Gentry>that  young,  tiny  nine- year- old  girl  in  you  who 

0:42:49.860 --> 0:42:57.450
<v Becs Gentry>struggled  for  five  years,  feeling  alone,  suddenly  had  this  joyous 

0:42:57.450 --> 0:43:04.170
<v Becs Gentry>moment  of  love,  of  understanding,  of  probably  a  ton  of 

0:43:04.170 --> 0:43:11.790
<v Becs Gentry>frustration  and  anger,  but  release.  And  you  used  the  word 

0:43:11.790 --> 0:43:15.570
<v Becs Gentry>reclamation,  reclamation, however  you  want  to  pronounce  it,  English  versus  American. 

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Becs Gentry>But  it's  true.  And  it  takes ...  I'm  sure.  Two  paralyses, 

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:27.570
<v Becs Gentry>years  of  fighting  for  your  life,  not  just  in  the 

0:43:27.570 --> 0:43:32.100
<v Becs Gentry>hospital,  literally  before;  living  your  life  day  to  day,  fighting 

0:43:32.100 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Becs Gentry>for  yourself.  It  takes  someone,  in  your  instance,  Tunde,  to 

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Becs Gentry>take  you  out  of  a  tough  moment,  to  distract  you, 

0:43:42.900 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Becs Gentry>to  let  all  of  those  things  for  a  moment  just 

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:53.760
<v Becs Gentry>be  reclaimed  by  beauty  and  love  and  allow  you  to 

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.730
<v Becs Gentry>see  through,  and  a  door  that  is  just  there  for 

0:43:56.730 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Becs Gentry>you  of  goals  and  strength  and  inspiration  because  you  share 

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.230
<v Becs Gentry>it.  I  see  another  book  coming  for  you  because,  I 

0:44:07.230 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Becs Gentry>mean,  oh  my  gosh.  How  many  kids  out  there  who ... 

0:44:12.510 --> 0:44:19.860
<v Becs Gentry>Yeah,  she's  looking  at  me  like, " Yes, Becs.  You  know."
I mean,  you 

0:44:19.860 --> 0:44:21.509
<v Becs Gentry>know  I  have  a  two  and  a  half  year  old, 

0:44:21.510 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Becs Gentry>and  it  shocks  me  every  single  day  the  things  that 

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:29.310
<v Becs Gentry>she  picks  up  in  my  words,  of  course,  but  my 

0:44:29.310 --> 0:44:38.219
<v Becs Gentry>mannerisms.  And  to  have  somebody  like  you  inspire  a  kid 

0:44:38.219 --> 0:44:43.469
<v Becs Gentry>who  was  you?  You  know?  That  child  needs  you.  That 

0:44:43.469 --> 0:44:47.130
<v Becs Gentry>child  needs  to  see  this  beautiful  smile  that  you  have, 

0:44:47.130 --> 0:44:52.800
<v Becs Gentry>this  strength  upon  strength  upon  strength  that  you  have  held 

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Becs Gentry>on  to.  So  thank  you  for  inspiring.  Not  just  inspiring 

0:44:59.100 --> 0:45:02.310
<v Becs Gentry>kids  like  you,  but  you  will  inspire  Tallulah  to  be 

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:07.410
<v Becs Gentry>a  stronger  and  more  beautiful  human  in  what  you  do. 

0:45:07.410 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Becs Gentry>So  take  those  challenges,  everybody.  Take  them,  because  life  is 

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:18.029
<v Becs Gentry>precious,  but  boy,  can  we?  Can  we?  Because  as  you 

0:45:18.030 --> 0:45:20.669
<v Becs Gentry>said  to  those  boys, " Who  can't?  Who  can't? Uh- uh."

0:45:22.500 --> 0:45:23.010
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I'm  going  to  show  you.

0:45:23.009 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Becs Gentry>"Not me.  I  can.  Thank  you."  And  here  you  are  today, 

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Becs Gentry>still,  taking  the  hoops  and  shooting  your  shot,  my  girl. 

0:45:33.900 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Becs Gentry>You're  utterly  astounding.  You're  awe- inspiring.  All  of  the  brain 

0:45:40.050 --> 0:45:42.839
<v Becs Gentry>people,  doctors  out  there,  tell  you  to  find  awe  in 

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.989
<v Becs Gentry>life  every  day.  So  today,  my  friends,  if  you  are 

0:45:46.020 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Becs Gentry>struggling  to  find  awe,  go  on  Shaunta- Mae's  page,  see 

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:54.870
<v Becs Gentry>her  face,  and  there's  your  awe,  inspiration  for  today.  Thank 

0:45:54.870 --> 0:45:57.570
<v Becs Gentry>you  so  much  for  sharing  your  story.  Thank  you  for 

0:45:57.570 --> 0:46:00.420
<v Becs Gentry>sharing  it  with  us,  with  the  world.  I can't  wait  to 

0:46:00.420 --> 0:46:03.630
<v Becs Gentry>see  what ...  You're  giving  me  the  winks  and  the  nods 

0:46:03.630 --> 0:46:06.390
<v Becs Gentry>of  what's  coming  for  you.  I  can't  wait  to  see 

0:46:06.390 --> 0:46:08.400
<v Becs Gentry>you  and  squeeze  you  in  the  studio  when  you're  next 

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:14.070
<v Becs Gentry>here.  But  thank  you  for  being  you,  and  just  everything 

0:46:14.070 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Becs Gentry>you  do.

0:46:14.460 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Thank  you.  Also,  I'd  be  remiss  if  I  didn't  thank 

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:23.190
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>you  also  because  you've  played  a  pivotal  role  in  my 

0:46:23.190 --> 0:46:30.359
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>journey  as  well.  When  I  started  taking  your  classes  on 

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>the  tread,  when  I  first  started,  I  was  so  intimidated. 

0:46:34.469 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  was  so  intimidated  because  I  was  like, " Do  y'all 

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:45.630
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>know  who Becs is? Do y'all know? Do y'all know who  this  woman is? She's a beast. She's a beast on the track. I don't know if  I  can  do  this."  But  getting 

0:46:45.630 --> 0:46:50.190
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>into  your  classes,  honestly,  I  think  you're  one  of  the 

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>most  challenging  tread  instructors  there  is.  Because,  one,  again,  you 

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:02.100
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>know  who  Becs  is.  But  because  you  challenge  us  to 

0:47:03.030 --> 0:47:07.620
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>push  ourselves  past  our  limits,  but  you  inspire  us  in 

0:47:07.620 --> 0:47:14.310
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>the  process,  which  I  think  is  beautiful  because  oftentimes,  especially 

0:47:14.610 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>when  it  comes  to  me,  being  on  the  tread  is 

0:47:18.540 --> 0:47:22.500
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>hard.
 Running  is  hard  for  me  daily.  It  is  a 

0:47:22.500 --> 0:47:26.969
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>constant  battle  in  my  head  of,  if  I  can  actually 

0:47:26.969 --> 0:47:31.890
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>do  this  still.  I've  run  a  half- marathon.  But  when 

0:47:31.890 --> 0:47:34.380
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>I  get  in  your  classes  and  I  choose  these  hard 

0:47:35.250 --> 0:47:40.140
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>classes,  knowing  that  you're  there and that  you're  inspiring,  and  you're  doing 

0:47:40.140 --> 0:47:43.140
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>it  with  such  love  and  compassion  and  empathy  for  the 

0:47:43.140 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>people  that  you  are  instructing  and  teaching,  not  just  on 

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:51.750
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>the  tread,  but  off  the  tread  as  well,  is  something 

0:47:51.750 --> 0:47:57.270
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>that  I'll  hold  dear  to.  I  absolutely  adore  you.  I 

0:47:57.270 --> 0:48:03.300
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>do.  You're  so  special  to  me.
 I  did  not  forget 

0:48:03.300 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>the  message  that  you  sent  to  Tunde,  while  I  was 

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:09.060
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>on  the  course,  for  me,  as  I  was  fighting  the 

0:48:09.060 --> 0:48:13.380
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>last,  I  think it was like  the  last  5K.  I  think it was  the  last 

0:48:13.380 --> 0:48:17.610
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>three  miles.  And  that  helped  me  run  a  little  bit 

0:48:17.610 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>faster. It  actually  brought  me  to  tears.  So  I want  to  say 

0:48:21.030 --> 0:48:23.700
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>thank  you  for  all  that  you  do.  Thank  you  for 

0:48:24.150 --> 0:48:27.090
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>inspiring  so  many  of  us.  Thank  you  for  your  love 

0:48:27.090 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>and  your  heart,  not  just  for  the  sport,  but for  the 

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:35.219
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>people.  I'm  glad  I  get  to  experience  you  in  this 

0:48:35.219 --> 0:48:37.830
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>way,  and  I  definitely  can't  wait  to  get  back  to 

0:48:37.830 --> 0:48:41.100
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>New  York  to  hug  your  face  again.  And  hopefully  be 

0:48:41.100 --> 0:48:44.191
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>in  your  classes,  because  I  need  that.  I  need  to have no chill in your class.

0:48:44.190 --> 0:48:51.390
<v Becs Gentry>You better.  You  better.  You  better.  We're  getting  you  in.  Amazing. 

0:48:51.570 --> 0:48:53.910
<v Becs Gentry>All  right,  lots  of  love,  and  I  will  see  you  soon.

0:48:54.390 --> 0:48:55.259
<v Shaunta-Mae Alexander>Thank  you  so  much.

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Rob>New  York  Roadrunners  is  a  nonprofit  organization  with  a  vision 

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Rob>to  build  healthier  lives  and  stronger  communities  through  the  transformative 

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Rob>power  of  running.  The  support  of  members  and  donors  like 

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.900
<v Rob>you  helps  us  achieve  our  mission  to  transform  the  health 

0:49:21.900 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Rob>and  well- being  of  our  communities  through  inclusive  and  accessible 

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:30.030
<v Rob>running  experiences,  empowering  all  to  achieve  their  potential.  Learn  more 

0:49:30.030 --> 0:49:35.489
<v Rob>and  contribute  at  nyrr. org/ donate.
 Dr.  Jane  Yoo  is 

0:49:35.489 --> 0:49:39.300
<v Rob>a  dual  board- certified  dermatologist,  a  surgeon  and  an  assistant 

0:49:39.300 --> 0:49:43.469
<v Rob>professor  at  Mount  Sinai,  and  she  wants  every  runner,  especially 

0:49:43.469 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Rob>runners  of  color,  to  take  sun  protection  seriously.  A  decades-

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:50.460
<v Rob>long  New  York  Roadrunners  member,  Jane  just  completed  her  Abbott 

0:49:50.460 --> 0:49:54.900
<v Rob>Six  Star  Journey  at  the  2024  Berlin  Marathon,  and  she's 

0:49:54.900 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Rob>in  training  now  for  Sydney.  In  addition  to  her  work 

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Rob>as  a  researcher  and  a  public  policy  advocate,  Jane  is 

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Rob>a  spokesperson  for  the  Skin  Cancer  Foundation  helping  shape  national 

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:08.280
<v Rob>sun  protection  standards.  She  joins  us  today  to  share  her 

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:12.540
<v Rob>practical  advice  for  fall  marathon  training,  especially  when  it  comes 

0:50:12.540 --> 0:50:16.860
<v Rob>to  sunscreen  and  skin  health.
 Dr.  Yoo,  it  is  great 

0:50:16.860 --> 0:50:19.230
<v Rob>to  see  you. You and I have  had  a  chance  to  chat  a  couple 

0:50:19.230 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Rob>of  times  in  the  past  about  your  passion  on  this 

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:24.420
<v Rob>topic,  so  thank  you  so  much  for  joining  us.

0:50:24.839 --> 0:50:25.141
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Thank  you.

0:50:25.141 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Rob>Okay.  I  have  a  lot  of  questions  about  this.  Let's 

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:32.969
<v Rob>just  start  with  the  basics.  When  a  runner  is  out 

0:50:32.969 --> 0:50:37.469
<v Rob>there  training  through  the  spring  and  the  summer  months,  getting 

0:50:37.469 --> 0:50:39.570
<v Rob>ready  for  whatever  their  race  is,  a  half- marathon,  a 

0:50:39.570 --> 0:50:43.830
<v Rob>marathon,  maybe  they're  in  races  over  the  summer,  how  much 

0:50:43.860 --> 0:50:46.860
<v Rob>is  sun  protection  a  factor  they  should  be  thinking  about? 

0:50:47.250 --> 0:50:51.540
<v Rob>How  much  time  in  the  sun  does  it  require  to 

0:50:51.540 --> 0:50:54.180
<v Rob>really  potentially  do  damage  to  your  skin?

0:50:55.110 --> 0:50:57.930
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Well,  that's  a  great  question  because  I  think  when  we 

0:50:58.020 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>think  about  running  marathons,  we're  thinking  about  the  long  game. 

0:51:01.260 --> 0:51:06.540
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Our  training  typically  starts  in  the  summer,  goes  through  November, 

0:51:06.570 --> 0:51:11.250
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>and  so  we  see  all  different  seasons.  We  should  be 

0:51:11.250 --> 0:51:15.150
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>thinking  about  sunscreen  actually  every  single  day  of  the  year 

0:51:15.210 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>because  we  have  sun  exposure  that  comes  from  two  different 

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:22.710
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>types  of  rays;  the  UVA  rays,  which  cause  premature  skin 

0:51:22.710 --> 0:51:26.219
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>aging,  as  well  as the  UVB  rays  or  burning.  But  we 

0:51:26.219 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>still  also  have  visible  light  that  affects  us,  so  every 

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:32.070
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>day,  we  should  be  thinking  about  sun  protection.

0:51:33.989 --> 0:51:36.330
<v Rob>Jane,  if  I  can  call  you  Jane,  you and  I  know 

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:38.549
<v Rob>each  other,  I  should  call  you  Dr.  Yoo.  Dr.  Yoo, 

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:42.330
<v Rob>we  run  in  the  morning  a  lot  of  the  time. 

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:46.710
<v Rob>Oftentimes  our  races  are  at 8: 00  a. m.  sometimes  7:

0:51:46.710 --> 0:51:50.100
<v Rob>00  a. m.  How  big  a  factor  is  that?  I'm 

0:51:50.100 --> 0:51:52.800
<v Rob>not  often  going  out  for  a  run  at  noon  or 2:00 in 

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:56.129
<v Rob>the  afternoon.  I'm  usually  early  in  the  morning,  sometimes  late 

0:51:56.130 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Rob>in  the  evening.  Does  that  matter  a  lot?  If  you're 

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Rob>running  before  9: 00 a.m., do  you  have  to  worry  about  this 

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.939
<v Rob>less  or  is  the  sun  really  dangerous  any  time  of  day?

0:52:06.540 --> 0:52:09.780
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I  think  you really have  to  worry  about  the  sun  during  the 

0:52:09.780 --> 0:52:13.680
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>prime  times,  during  noon  and  when  it's  really,  really  hot 

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:17.760
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>out,  but  I  would  recommend  folks  to  run  either  early 

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>in  the  morning  or  in  the  evening,  so  they  get 

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:24.540
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>less  of  that  exposure  and  less  of  the  burning.  I 

0:52:24.540 --> 0:52:29.489
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>have  to  say  that  most  people  think  that  skin  cancer 

0:52:29.489 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>is  caused  by  just  the  sun,  but  there's  genetic  and 

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:37.230
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>there's  environmental  factors  that  play  a  role.  The  most  important 

0:52:37.230 --> 0:52:39.719
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>thing  that  we  can  do  is  protect  ourselves  and  make 

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:43.500
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>sure  that  we  have  hats  as  well  as  sunglasses  and 

0:52:44.310 --> 0:52:45.180
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>UV  clothing.

0:52:46.020 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Rob>So  it's  not  just  about  sunscreen.  It's  obviously  about  the 

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.790
<v Rob>things,  the  physical  things  that  block  the  sun.  I'm  a 

0:52:50.790 --> 0:52:54.180
<v Rob>huge  fan  of  running  with  a  hat  on,  baseball  cap 

0:52:54.180 --> 0:52:56.670
<v Rob>sort  of  thing  when  the  sun's  out,  and  sunglasses  to 

0:52:56.670 --> 0:52:58.320
<v Rob>protect  the  eyes  as  well,  right?

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:02.310
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Exactly.  The  more  you  can  protect  yourself  on  sun  exposed 

0:53:02.310 --> 0:53:06.570
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>areas,  the  better.  If  you  want to  get  into  sun  protection, 

0:53:06.810 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>well,  first  of  all,  this  is  May,  Skin  Cancer  Awareness 

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:12.300
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Month.  Let  me  start  off  with  that.  Skin  cancer  is the 

0:53:12.390 --> 0:53:15.060
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>most  common  form  of  cancer  in  the  US,  and  one 

0:53:15.060 --> 0:53:18.690
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>in  five  people  will  be  diagnosed  by  age  70.  So 

0:53:18.690 --> 0:53:21.870
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>everyone  needs  sunscreen  and  everyone  is  at  risk  regardless  of 

0:53:21.870 --> 0:53:26.339
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>their  skin  color.
 What  the  American  Academy  of  Dermatology  recommends 

0:53:26.340 --> 0:53:30.810
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>is  that  everyone  wear  sunscreen  that's  broad  spectrum,  protecting  you 

0:53:30.810 --> 0:53:35.430
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>against  the  UVA  as  well as UVB  rays,  SPF30  or  higher,  as 

0:53:35.430 --> 0:53:39.569
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>well  as  something  that's  water  resistant.  Most  people  ask, " Well, 

0:53:39.570 --> 0:53:42.450
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>what  is  SPF?"  That's  the  number  that  just  tells  you 

0:53:42.450 --> 0:53:46.529
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>how  long  the  sun's  UVB  rays  would  take  to  redden 

0:53:46.530 --> 0:53:49.980
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>the  skin  when  you're  using  a  particular  sunscreen  compared  to 

0:53:49.980 --> 0:53:53.310
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>the  amount  of  time  without  the  sunscreen.  Basically,  using  a 

0:53:53.310 --> 0:53:58.230
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>sunscreen  with  SPF30  blocks  97%  of  the  sun's  UVB  rays. 

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:03.089
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>The  higher  number  SPFs  block  slightly  more  of  the  sun's 

0:54:03.090 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>UVB  rays,  but  no  sunscreen  can  block  a  hundred  percent 

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:11.489
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>of  the  sun's  UVB  rays.  Again,  it's  really,  really  important 

0:54:11.489 --> 0:54:14.910
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>to  reapply,  and  what  I  recommend  is  reapplying  every  two  hours.

0:54:15.330 --> 0:54:19.050
<v Rob>What  about  sunblocks,  Dr.  Yoo?  Those  are  different  because  they're, 

0:54:19.050 --> 0:54:22.890
<v Rob>as  I  understand,  you  tell  me,  are  they  physical  blocks? 

0:54:23.489 --> 0:54:26.399
<v Rob>Zinc  and  things  like  that,  that  actually  you  can  still 

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.650
<v Rob>see  on  someone's  face,  they  don't  rub  in  the  same  way?

0:54:29.130 --> 0:54:34.530
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>There's  two  different  types  of  sun  protectors.  There's  the  chemical 

0:54:34.530 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>as  well  as  physical  sunscreens.  The  primary  difference  between  the 

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:42.420
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>sunscreens  is  the  active  ingredients  that  they  contain.  If  the 

0:54:42.420 --> 0:54:45.330
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>active  ingredient  in  your  sunscreen  is  titanium  dioxide  or  zinc 

0:54:45.330 --> 0:54:48.510
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>oxide  or  both,  you  have  a  physical  sunscreen.  That  basically 

0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:53.340
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>consists  of  a  layer  that's  on  your  skin.  Dermatologists  often 

0:54:53.430 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>will  recommend  this  for  people  with  sensitive  skin  or  people 

0:54:55.920 --> 0:55:00.390
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>with  acne.  If  the  sunscreen  doesn't  contain  the  titanium  dioxide 

0:55:00.390 --> 0:55:03.810
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>or  zinc  oxide,  you  have  a  chemical  sunscreen.  Some  sunscreens 

0:55:03.810 --> 0:55:07.050
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>can  even  be  hybrid  of  them,  so  they  contain  something 

0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:10.050
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>that  is a  chemical  as  well  as a  physical  sunscreen,  and  so 

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.710
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>they  will  be  labeled  that  way.

0:55:14.070 --> 0:55:16.860
<v Rob>Unless  someone  has  a  sensitivity,  do  you  recommend  the  physical 

0:55:16.860 --> 0:55:17.610
<v Rob>over  the  chemical?

0:55:18.390 --> 0:55:22.410
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Well,  if  they  have  a  sensitivity,  they're  more  likely  to 

0:55:23.489 --> 0:55:27.719
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>be  utilizing  a  physical  sunscreen  because  they'll  be  less  reactive 

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:28.710
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>to  the  chemicals.

0:55:29.130 --> 0:55:31.770
<v Rob>Got  it. But  is  one  more  effective  than  the  other,  Dr. 

0:55:31.770 --> 0:55:33.090
<v Rob>Yoo,  or  they're  both  as  effective?

0:55:33.090 --> 0:55:38.190
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Well,  the  physical  sunscreens  will  protect  against  UVA  as well  as 

0:55:38.190 --> 0:55:42.390
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>UVB,  so  you're  guaranteed  by  that.  I  would  go  with 

0:55:42.390 --> 0:55:46.170
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>a  physical  sunscreen  if  you're  always  on  the  fence.

0:55:46.469 --> 0:55:50.010
<v Rob>Got  it.  Got  it.  Now,  what  about  the  factor,  obviously, 

0:55:50.010 --> 0:55:52.650
<v Rob>that  a  runner's  dealing  with,  Dr.  Yoo,  of  the  sweating? 

0:55:52.890 --> 0:55:57.989
<v Rob>You're  out  there,  you're  running  with  the  sunscreen  on,  and 

0:55:58.140 --> 0:56:00.509
<v Rob>a  lot  of  the  time  you'll  sweat.  I've  had  experiences 

0:56:00.510 --> 0:56:04.830
<v Rob>where  I  can  feel  the  sweat  dripping  into  my  eyes 

0:56:05.070 --> 0:56:07.440
<v Rob>after  putting  on  a  sunscreen  and  it  stings  a  little 

0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:11.280
<v Rob>bit.  Are  there  either  certain  types  of  sunscreens  or  certain 

0:56:11.700 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Rob>ways  to  apply  them  or  times  to  apply  them  that 

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Rob>might  make  it  easier  for  a  runner  to  run  and 

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.060
<v Rob>sweat  and  still  tolerate  having  sunscreen  on?

0:56:21.690 --> 0:56:25.860
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Definitely.  I  think  the  best  sunscreen  is the  one  that  you're 

0:56:25.860 --> 0:56:28.799
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>going  to  use  every  day.  That  being  said,  try  out 

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:32.130
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>a  lot  of  different  sunscreens,  and  I've  tried  many,  and 

0:56:32.130 --> 0:56:33.630
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>so  I  know  which  ones  are  going  to  sting  and 

0:56:33.630 --> 0:56:36.330
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>burn  in  my  eyes.  I  typically  like  to  go  for 

0:56:36.330 --> 0:56:38.910
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>a  stick  because  the  stick  is  easy  to  carry.  It's 

0:56:38.910 --> 0:56:42.989
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>portable.  Creams  are  best  for  people  who  have  dry  skin 

0:56:42.989 --> 0:56:45.630
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>and  applying  around  the  face.  Gels  are  good  for  people 

0:56:45.630 --> 0:56:48.630
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>who  have  oily  complexion  and  hairy  areas  such  as  the 

0:56:48.630 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>scalp,  or  the  males  and  the  chest.  Spray,  this  is 

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.390
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>the  thing  that  I  have  to  say  about  sprays.  You 

0:56:54.390 --> 0:56:56.790
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>really  have  to  rub  it  in.  If  you  just  let 

0:56:56.790 --> 0:56:58.649
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>it  aerosolize,  it's  just  going  to  go  in  the  air. 

0:56:58.650 --> 0:57:01.860
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>It's  not  going  to  protect  you.  I  always  tend  to just 

0:57:02.340 --> 0:57:06.180
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>keep  the  stick  on  hand  and  reapply  every  hour  just 

0:57:06.180 --> 0:57:08.549
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>to  make  it  easier.  Basically  when  I  take  a  gel, 

0:57:09.089 --> 0:57:11.940
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I'll  also  do  the  sunscreen  stick.

0:57:13.140 --> 0:57:15.930
<v Rob>Got  it.  Now  I'm  really  interested  in  what  you  say 

0:57:15.930 --> 0:57:18.930
<v Rob>about  people  of  color  because,  okay,  I,  as  an  African-

0:57:18.930 --> 0:57:23.220
<v Rob>American,  I  will  be  perfectly  honest  in  this  conversation.  I 

0:57:23.610 --> 0:57:27.360
<v Rob>have  always  believed  that  while  it's  good  to  wear  sunscreen, 

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Rob>especially  if  I  know  I'm  going  to  be  in  the 

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.530
<v Rob>sun  for  long  periods  of  time,  that  I  don't  need 

0:57:31.530 --> 0:57:34.950
<v Rob>it  as  much  because  I  have  melanin  in  my  skin 

0:57:34.950 --> 0:57:38.250
<v Rob>that  is  kind  of  serving  as  a  natural  sunscreen  and 

0:57:38.250 --> 0:57:41.820
<v Rob>that  I'm  less  susceptible  to  skin  cancer.  Tell  me  why 

0:57:41.820 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Rob>this  is  wrong,  why  I've  been  laboring  under  this  false 

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:46.500
<v Rob>belief  all  these  years.

0:57:47.190 --> 0:57:50.669
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>All  skin  tones  have  melanin,  not  only  dark  skin.  There 

0:57:50.670 --> 0:57:55.080
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>is  a  misconception  that  darker  skin  tones  provide  natural  sun 

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:59.250
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>protection,  but  that's  not  actually  true.  The  darkest  skin  tone 

0:57:59.250 --> 0:58:03.330
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>only  provides  up  to  an  equivalent  of  SPF13.  Since  skin 

0:58:03.330 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>cancer  happens  to  everyone,  right?  Typically,  skin  cancer  in  skin 

0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:12.270
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>of  color  happens  where  the  sun  don't  shine  and  areas 

0:58:12.270 --> 0:58:15.210
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>where  you  get  very  little  sun  exposure.  So  skin  cancer, 

0:58:15.210 --> 0:58:18.330
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>like  melanoma  in  African- Americans  as  well  as  Asians,  happens 

0:58:18.330 --> 0:58:20.670
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>on  the  hands  and  feet;  basically  on  the  palms  of 

0:58:20.670 --> 0:58:23.550
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>the  hands,  the  soles  of  the  feet,  under  the  nail 

0:58:23.550 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>areas.  Squamous  cell  carcinoma  is the  most  common  in  Black  people, 

0:58:29.310 --> 0:58:33.180
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>and 1  to  2%  of  all  cancers  happen  in  African- Americans, 

0:58:33.180 --> 0:58:36.510
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>2 to 4%  in  Asians,  and 4  to  5%  of  skin  cancers  in 

0:58:36.510 --> 0:58:39.390
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Hispanic  people.  So  it  could  happen,  and  I've  seen  it 

0:58:39.390 --> 0:58:40.350
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>in  my  office.

0:58:40.890 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Rob>That's  really  interesting.  So  really,  your  advice  applies  to  everyone 

0:58:46.140 --> 0:58:47.250
<v Rob>no  matter  who  they  are.

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:52.140
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>And  you  can  get  a  sunburn.  Just  don't  think  that 

0:58:52.140 --> 0:58:55.140
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>because  you're  darker  skinned,  you  can't  get  a  sunburn.  People 

0:58:55.140 --> 0:58:58.230
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>of  color  may  not  show  the  visible  redness  that  other 

0:58:58.230 --> 0:59:01.680
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>people  do,  like  our  Caucasian  counterparts,  but  in  fact,  our 

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:04.110
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>skin  can  also  burn  in  the  sun,  and  the  skin 

0:59:04.110 --> 0:59:06.330
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>can  darken  and  feel  warm  to  the  touch  and  crack 

0:59:06.330 --> 0:59:07.320
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>and  eventually  blister.

0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:09.540
<v Rob>That  is  true.  I  have  had  that  experience.  When  I 

0:59:09.540 --> 0:59:13.230
<v Rob>was  younger  especially,  getting  way  too  much  sun  in  hot 

0:59:13.230 --> 0:59:16.979
<v Rob>places  like  the  Caribbean  and  feeling  the  burn,  both  in 

0:59:16.980 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Rob>terms  of  the  way  I  felt  and  then  how  hot 

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:21.810
<v Rob>it  was  to  the  touch.  So  that's  true.  Really  interesting. 

0:59:21.930 --> 0:59:26.100
<v Rob>Another  thing  that's  interesting  to  me,  as  a  person  of 

0:59:26.100 --> 0:59:30.270
<v Rob>color  in  particular,  is  this  balance  between  protecting  my  skin 

0:59:30.270 --> 0:59:32.970
<v Rob>and  protecting  from  skin  cancer,  but  also  getting  enough  vitamin 

0:59:32.970 --> 0:59:37.770
<v Rob>D,  Dr.  Yoo,  because  it's  very  common  for  people  of 

0:59:37.770 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Rob>color  to  have  vitamin  D  deficiencies  because  they  don't  process 

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Rob>the  sun  the  same  way that  someone  who's  lighter  skinned  does. 

0:59:45.450 --> 0:59:48.270
<v Rob>I've  actually  had  that  myself  and  have  to  take  vitamin 

0:59:48.270 --> 0:59:49.620
<v Rob>D  supplements  because  of  that.

0:59:50.010 --> 0:59:53.310
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Yeah, I think  that's  also  a  fallacy.  I  think  we  all  get 

0:59:53.310 --> 0:59:56.490
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>enough of  vitamin  D  from  our  natural  exposure,  just  like  walking 

0:59:56.490 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>outdoors.  I  don't  think  that  you  can  say  like, " Oh, 

0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:04.410
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I  need  more  sun  exposure  for  vitamin  D  purposes,"  is 

1:00:04.410 --> 1:00:08.130
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>necessarily  the  truth.  In  all  reality,  most  of  us  are 

1:00:08.130 --> 1:00:13.320
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>not  construction  workers.  We  get  enough  sun  exposure just  ambiently.  So 

1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:16.290
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I  would  say  that's  definitely  false.

1:00:17.070 --> 1:00:21.180
<v Rob>All  right.  So  the advice is  simple,  Dr.  Yoo.  Wear  sunscreen.  Is 

1:00:21.180 --> 1:00:23.610
<v Rob>it  for  any  run?  Is  it  just  for  longer  runs? 

1:00:24.090 --> 1:00:26.340
<v Rob>It  sounds  like  you  are  in  the  camp  of,  if 

1:00:26.340 --> 1:00:28.200
<v Rob>you're  going  outside  and  you're  going  to  see  the  sun, 

1:00:28.230 --> 1:00:28.920
<v Rob>have  something  on.

1:00:29.340 --> 1:00:33.120
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Exactly.  So  every  day,  no  matter  what,  rain  or  shine, 

1:00:33.870 --> 1:00:37.980
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>you  still  have  ambient  UV  exposure  out  there.  And  do 

1:00:37.980 --> 1:00:40.500
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>it,  if  not  for  skin  cancer,  for  anti- aging.  You 

1:00:40.500 --> 1:00:41.970
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>don't  want  those  wrinkles  and  you  don't  want  to  look 

1:00:41.970 --> 1:00:44.431
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>like  an  old  person  out  there.  You  want to look nice and young.

1:00:44.431 --> 1:00:49.140
<v Rob>I think we can  all  agree  with  that.  Absolutely.  Speaking  of  looking  young, 

1:00:49.140 --> 1:00:53.460
<v Rob>feeling  young,  you  must  be  feeling  young  and  great  after 

1:00:53.460 --> 1:00:57.360
<v Rob>completing  your  Six  Star  Journey.  Congratulations  on  getting  the  Six 

1:00:57.360 --> 1:01:00.810
<v Rob>Stars  in  Berlin.  That's  huge.  Tell  us  about  your  running 

1:01:00.810 --> 1:01:02.430
<v Rob>journey.  When  did  you  first  start  to  run?

1:01:03.030 --> 1:01:06.210
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Oh  gosh,  this  is  probably  more  than  20  years  ago. 

1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:10.110
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I  started  running  because  my  sorority  sister  passed  away  from 

1:01:10.110 --> 1:01:14.160
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>brain  cancer,  and  so  I  ran  for  Dana- Farber.  I 

1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:17.820
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>ran  the  Boston  Marathon and  I  was  scared  because  I  had 

1:01:17.820 --> 1:01:21.720
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>never  run  more  than  three  miles in  my  entire  life.  But 

1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:27.030
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>through  Dana- Farber's  excellent  training  program  with  Jack  Fultz,  I 

1:01:27.030 --> 1:01:30.120
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>was  able  to  complete  that  marathon.  I  said, " Wow,  this 

1:01:30.120 --> 1:01:33.600
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>is  incredible."  It  was  such  a  great  feeling,  the  training, 

1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:38.220
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>and  just  having  so  many  people  around  me  do  it 

1:01:38.220 --> 1:01:41.730
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>at  the  time.  I  think  it  just  stirred  this  feeling  that, "

1:01:41.730 --> 1:01:43.560
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Okay,  I  can  do  it  again. And  I  can  do  it 

1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:47.130
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>again."  And  it  just  became  that  long  journey.

1:01:48.090 --> 1:01:50.040
<v Rob>How  many  years  did  it  take  you  to  get  through 

1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:50.700
<v Rob>all  six?

1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:53.790
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Oh  gosh,  it  took  quite  a  while.  I'll  have  to 

1:01:53.790 --> 1:01:56.760
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>say  Berlin  took  a  couple  of  tries  because  I  had 

1:01:56.760 --> 1:02:00.810
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>some  injuries.  First  time,  I  had  a  stress  fracture  because 

1:02:00.810 --> 1:02:05.310
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I  ramped  up  my  training  too  quickly.  Another  time,  I 

1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:08.250
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>tore  my  medial  meniscus,  and  so  I  had  an  injury 

1:02:08.250 --> 1:02:12.420
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>there.  So  I'm  really,  really  concerned  about  just  staying  healthy 

1:02:12.420 --> 1:02:15.330
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>and  just  making  sure  that I  train  properly  and  get  to 

1:02:15.330 --> 1:02:18.990
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>the  start  line  without  any  significant  injuries.

1:02:21.150 --> 1:02:23.430
<v Rob>As  a  dermatologist,  as  someone  who's  an  expert  in  skin, 

1:02:23.430 --> 1:02:27.030
<v Rob>I'm  just  curious  what  your  regimen  is,  Dr.  Yoo.  Take 

1:02:27.030 --> 1:02:30.750
<v Rob>us  through  before a  run,  during  a  run,  and  then  maybe 

1:02:30.750 --> 1:02:33.540
<v Rob>after  the  run.  Are  there  things  you're  doing  as  well 

1:02:33.540 --> 1:02:35.640
<v Rob>after  the run?  What  are  all  the  things  and  the  steps 

1:02:35.640 --> 1:02:36.990
<v Rob>you  take  to  keep  your  skin  healthy?

1:02:37.620 --> 1:02:43.530
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Just  like  you,  Rob,  I'm  a  normal  person.  I'm  not 

1:02:43.530 --> 1:02:45.360
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>fast.  I  would  say  I'm  more  of  a  back  of 

1:02:45.360 --> 1:02:47.521
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>the  pack  runner,  so  I  need  more  sunscreen.

1:02:47.521 --> 1:02:53.000
<v Rob>Because you're  out  there  longer,  yeah.  The longer you're out there.

1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:56.970
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>(inaudible) . Longer. I'm the  person  that  they're  waiting  until  the  cows  come  home.

1:02:59.460 --> 1:03:02.700
<v Rob>And  the  later  waves  actually,  which  tend  to  be  when 

1:03:02.700 --> 1:03:04.980
<v Rob>the  sun  is  higher  in  the  sky.  It  really  is 

1:03:04.980 --> 1:03:07.920
<v Rob>actually  a  really  good  point  that  the  slower  runners  are 

1:03:08.190 --> 1:03:10.860
<v Rob>out  there  longer  and  usually  when  it's  hotter  and  more 

1:03:10.860 --> 1:03:11.490
<v Rob>intense  sun.

1:03:11.850 --> 1:03:14.790
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Exactly.  And  I'm  not  in  my  twenties  anymore,  like  when 

1:03:14.790 --> 1:03:20.130
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I  started  running.  As  we  get  older,  our  pace  also 

1:03:20.130 --> 1:03:24.780
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>gets  slower  too.  But  in  any  case,  it's  just  enjoying 

1:03:24.780 --> 1:03:29.070
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>the  process  and  doing  everything  that  other  people  do;  making 

1:03:29.070 --> 1:03:31.320
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>sure  you  get  plenty  of  rest,  drinking  plenty  of  fluids, 

1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:35.370
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>don't  do  anything  differently  on  race  day,  knowing  what  they 

1:03:35.370 --> 1:03:39.180
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>have  at  the  different  fueling  stations.  I  knew  that  they 

1:03:39.180 --> 1:03:42.810
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>had  Pocari  Sweat  in  Japan,  and  I  had  loved  that 

1:03:42.810 --> 1:03:45.870
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>drink  as  a  young  child,  so I was  very  familiar  with  it, 

1:03:45.870 --> 1:03:48.419
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>but  I  was  not  going  to  take  anything  that  didn't 

1:03:48.420 --> 1:03:51.270
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>look  like  a  banana  or  an  orange  in  Tokyo.  Okay? 

1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:53.850
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I  know  that  they  had  some  radishes  and  other  things 

1:03:53.850 --> 1:03:56.611
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>out  there,  but  I  was  not  about  to  try anything new.

1:03:56.611 --> 1:04:04.380
<v Rob>I was the exact same way,  Dr.  Yoo.  I  saw  baked  goods  and  all  kinds 

1:04:04.380 --> 1:04:07.170
<v Rob>of  things that  I  had  no  idea  what  was  in  these 

1:04:07.170 --> 1:04:10.140
<v Rob>things.  I  was  like, " Not  today.  I'm  curious  what  this 

1:04:10.140 --> 1:04:11.430
<v Rob>tastes  like,  but  not  today."

1:04:11.430 --> 1:04:14.670
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Yeah, don't do  anything  different.  I'm  a  little  bit  of  an  oddball 

1:04:14.670 --> 1:04:18.180
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>too.  As  my  running  coaches  know,  I  run  on  the 

1:04:18.180 --> 1:04:21.270
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>treadmill  just so  I  get  less  sun  exposure,  and  I  like 

1:04:21.270 --> 1:04:25.650
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>to  have  very  much  controlled  environments.  And  I'm  a  huge 

1:04:25.650 --> 1:04:29.790
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>fan  of  Becs  Gentry.  She  is  someone  I  listen  to 

1:04:30.660 --> 1:04:34.290
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>when  I  train,  and  I'll  do  some  of the  30- minute,  one-

1:04:34.290 --> 1:04:38.640
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>hour  runs  and  different  types  of  workouts  listening  to  her. 

1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:41.520
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>And  forward  is  a  pace,  I  have  to  say.  She 

1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:42.810
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>says  that  too,  right?

1:04:42.810 --> 1:04:43.380
<v Rob>That's  right.

1:04:43.380 --> 1:04:48.960
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>You  just  keep  moving  one  foot  across  another  and  just 

1:04:50.370 --> 1:04:50.671
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>doing  it.

1:04:50.671 --> 1:04:56.820
<v Rob>All right.  The  message  from  Dr.  Jane  Yoo,  wear  sunscreen,  reapply 

1:04:56.820 --> 1:04:58.890
<v Rob>too. I know  that's  important.  You  got  to  bring  it  out  there 

1:04:58.890 --> 1:05:01.290
<v Rob>with  you  and  reapply.  How  do  you  reapply  in  the 

1:05:01.290 --> 1:05:03.330
<v Rob>middle  of  a  race,  by  the  way?  Do  you  actually 

1:05:03.330 --> 1:05:05.280
<v Rob>stop  and  go  over  to  the  side  and  reapply?  Do 

1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:06.421
<v Rob>you  just  try  to  do it  while  you're running?

1:05:06.421 --> 1:05:06.422
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>You have to do it a little surreptitiously, right?

1:05:06.422 --> 1:05:06.510
<v Rob>Yeah.

1:05:06.510 --> 1:05:16.110
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>You're  going  to  attract  attention.  No.  I  actually  will  do 

1:05:16.110 --> 1:05:18.060
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>it  again,  like  when  I'm  taking  in  the  gels.  I'll 

1:05:18.060 --> 1:05:20.340
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>do  it  at  the  same  time.  It's  kind  of  like 

1:05:20.340 --> 1:05:24.000
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>a  no- brainer  to  me.  When  you  look  at  your 

1:05:24.270 --> 1:05:27.960
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Garmin  and  the  time  is  up,  so  you'll  just  reapply 

1:05:27.990 --> 1:05:30.510
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>during  that  time.  Some  people  can  do  it  when  they 

1:05:30.510 --> 1:05:34.440
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>take  a  break  getting  water.  So  it  just  depends.  I'll 

1:05:34.440 --> 1:05:38.010
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>say  in  all  reality,  it's  not  the  easiest,  and  sometimes 

1:05:38.010 --> 1:05:42.660
<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I  do  forget  to  reapply.  Or  you're  really  thinking, " Okay, 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>is  this  a  day  for  the  PR?  Is  the  sunscreen 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>going  to ..."

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<v Rob>Yeah,  to  have  the  sunscreen  keep  you  from  getting  that 

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<v Rob>PR,  I  imagine  that  would  be  a  little  frustrating,  but 

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<v Rob>not  as  bad  as  having  skin  cancer,  I  guess,  right? 

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<v Rob>That's  the  message.

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Exactly.

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<v Rob>All  right.  Dr.  Jane  Yoo,  I  appreciate  your  joining  us. 

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<v Rob>I  know  this  is  obviously  your  job,  so  you  know 

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<v Rob>it  better  than  anyone,  and  it's  great  advice  for  all 

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<v Rob>of  our  runners  to  hear.  Congratulations  on  your  Six  Stars. 

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<v Rob>It's  amazing.  Sydney  as  well is coming up. So you're going to run Sydney this fall?

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>It's  coming  up,  yes.  I'm  just  starting  off  my  training, 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>doing  a  lot  of  squats  and  all  the  foam  rolling, 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>all  the  stretching  and  things  that  I'm  supposed  to  do, 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>because  otherwise,  Amy  Sitar  would  get  really  mad  at  me. 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>She's  the  head  coach  for  the  New  York  Flyers.  So 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>I'm  just  appreciative  of  all  of  you  guys.  The  New 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>York  Roadrunners,  you've  been  so  supportive  along  the  way  during 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>this  20- plus- year- old  journey.  Because  it's  been  that 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>long,  and  you  learn  along  the  way  what  to  do and 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>what  not  to  do.  And  listen  to  your  body,  most 

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>of  all.

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<v Rob>Absolutely.

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>(inaudible)   develop  good  skin  habits,  year  long.

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<v Rob>Well,  thank  you  so  much,  Dr.  Yoo.  It's  great  to 

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<v Rob>see  you.  This  is  actually  a  great  reminder  for  me 

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<v Rob>now  going  into  the  summer,  to  get  a  little  more 

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<v Rob>serious  about  my  skin  regime  and  my  protection.  I've  definitely 

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<v Rob>been  just  riding  the  dark  skin  thing,  so  I'm  going 

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<v Rob>to  stop  doing  that  and  start  using  more  sunscreen.  Dr. 

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<v Rob>Yoo,  thank  you  very  much.  Thanks  for  being  a  member 

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<v Rob>of  New  York  Roadrunners.  Appreciate  you.

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<v Dr. Jane Yoo>Thank  you.

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<v Becs Gentry>Thank you  for  joining  us,  Jane,  and  for  being  a  member 

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<v Becs Gentry>of  New  York  Roadrunners.  Now  to  the  final  part  of 

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<v Becs Gentry>our  show, our  Meb  Minute.

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<v Meb>Marathon  Blues.  We  all  go  through  it.  After  a  marathon 

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<v Meb>or  half- marathon,  it  is  normal  to  feel  a  sense 

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<v Meb>of  emptiness.  Set  new  goals  and  stay  motivated.  Prioritize  recovering 

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<v Meb>with  rest,  cross- training  and  light  running  to  avoid  post-

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<v Meb>race  burnouts.  Reflect  on  your  accomplishment  and  find  ways  to 

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<v Meb>give  back,  such  as  mentoring  new  runners.  Plan  your  next 

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<v Meb>race  or  fitness  challenge  to  maintain  momentum.  For  me,  after 

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<v Meb>a  race,  I  sometimes  immediately  to  sign  up,  and  other 

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<v Meb>times  you  are  questioning, " Why  did  I  do  this?"  But 

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<v Meb>give  it  time.  Give  time  to  recover.  Three  weeks  later, 

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<v Meb>you're  going  to  miss  running.  And then  a  month  or  so 

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<v Meb>within  the  race,  you're  going  to  be  like, " Oh,  I 

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<v Meb>miss  running.  I  need  to  sign  up  for  a  race." 

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<v Meb>Just  make  sure  you are in the  right  mental  phase  to  be  able 

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<v Meb>to  just  say, " Hey,  I'm  ready  for  another  challenging  goal," 

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<v Meb>and  work  toward  that  goal.

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<v Becs Gentry>That  does  it  for  another  episode  of  Set  the  Pace. 

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<v Becs Gentry>Thank  you  so  much  to  today's  guests,  Shaunta- Mae  Alexander 

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<v Becs Gentry>and  Dr.  Jane  Yoo.  If  you  like  this  episode,  please 

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<v Becs Gentry>the  show  too.  Take  care.