1 00:00:00,450 --> 00:00:02,940 Susanna Sullivan: I didn't actually realize that I was in the lead 2 00:00:02,940 --> 00:00:06,029 Susanna Sullivan: American spot until very, very late in the race, maybe 3 00:00:06,030 --> 00:00:09,210 Susanna Sullivan: a mile ago. I started to have suspicions of it 4 00:00:09,210 --> 00:00:12,600 Susanna Sullivan: at about the halfway because I feel like I heard somebody say 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:17,700 Susanna Sullivan: top American, and I was like, " No, surely I must 6 00:00:17,700 --> 00:00:19,680 Susanna Sullivan: have missed somebody with all the chaos at the start, 7 00:00:20,370 --> 00:00:23,670 Susanna Sullivan: somebody must be still further ahead." But then with about 8 00:00:23,670 --> 00:00:26,550 Susanna Sullivan: a mile to go in Chicago, one of the motorcycles 9 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:30,150 Susanna Sullivan: pulled up alongside me and was yelling to other people like, " 10 00:00:30,150 --> 00:00:31,020 Susanna Sullivan: lead American." 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hello everybody, and welcome to Set the Pace, the official 12 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:43,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: podcast of New York Roadrunners presented by Peloton. I'm your 13 00:00:43,229 --> 00:00:45,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: host, Rob Simmelkjaer, the CEO of New York Roadrunners back 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: on video for a second week in a row with 15 00:00:49,020 --> 00:00:53,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs Gentry who's joining us from her homeland in London, 16 00:00:53,190 --> 00:00:56,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: England, United Kingdom. Becs, it's great to see you. We're 17 00:00:56,850 --> 00:00:59,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: not in person this week, we're separated by a little 18 00:00:59,010 --> 00:01:00,781 Rob Simmelkjaer: ocean, but it's great to see your face. 19 00:01:00,781 --> 00:01:05,250 Becs Gentry: It's very different. Yes, side by side, literally in person last week 20 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:08,310 Becs Gentry: to being separated by the Atlantic Ocean. But we're here. 21 00:01:08,310 --> 00:01:11,729 Becs Gentry: I'm back home for a couple of weeks in London. 22 00:01:11,730 --> 00:01:13,709 Becs Gentry: Well, I can't really call it home anymore. My original 23 00:01:13,709 --> 00:01:17,790 Becs Gentry: home here with Peloton whilst our studios are having a 24 00:01:17,790 --> 00:01:21,420 Becs Gentry: little bit of a revamp in New York and then, yeah, it's 25 00:01:21,420 --> 00:01:22,770 Becs Gentry: fun. It's great to be back. 26 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:25,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: So they sent you to London to teach because there's 27 00:01:25,770 --> 00:01:28,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: a studio over there and you're using that and getting 28 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:30,301 Rob Simmelkjaer: a little trip home as well out of it. Not bad. 29 00:01:30,301 --> 00:01:30,691 Becs Gentry: Yeah. Yeah. No one's here. Well, my sister is here. Well, she's in Norfolk. 30 00:01:36,510 --> 00:01:38,551 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, because your parents moved, right? 31 00:01:38,551 --> 00:01:38,819 Becs Gentry: Yeah. 32 00:01:38,819 --> 00:01:41,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: So you're kind of like a Londoner without family in 33 00:01:41,700 --> 00:01:46,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: London anymore, but of course Austin and your child are 34 00:01:46,860 --> 00:01:49,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: back in the States, Tallulah. What's it feel like to 35 00:01:49,950 --> 00:01:53,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: be home, but maybe not feeling so at home with 36 00:01:53,730 --> 00:01:55,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: all your family in different places? 37 00:01:56,010 --> 00:01:58,020 Becs Gentry: Yeah, it's strange. I think once I see my sister 38 00:01:58,020 --> 00:01:59,730 Becs Gentry: in a couple of days, I'm going to go to 39 00:01:59,730 --> 00:02:04,440 Becs Gentry: Norfolk, which is the east coast of England, to see her 40 00:02:04,770 --> 00:02:07,890 Becs Gentry: for 24 hours or so, and I think I'll feel 41 00:02:07,890 --> 00:02:11,400 Becs Gentry: more like I'm home in that respect. But yeah, right 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,970 Becs Gentry: now I do feel a little bit like an American 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,790 Becs Gentry: in New York walking around like, " Ooh, this is such 44 00:02:17,790 --> 00:02:21,870 Becs Gentry: a sweet city. It's so small." And I just walked 45 00:02:21,870 --> 00:02:24,990 Becs Gentry: across London. You don't just do that in New York, you don't 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,870 Becs Gentry: just hop out of your house and you walk everywhere. 47 00:02:29,100 --> 00:02:33,030 Becs Gentry: So it's been very nice, very, very fun. But I'm 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,070 Becs Gentry: definitely going to be missing my little family by the 49 00:02:35,070 --> 00:02:37,830 Becs Gentry: time I get home. Right now I'm still like, " Mom's having 50 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:38,191 Becs Gentry: a bit of a break." 51 00:02:38,191 --> 00:02:42,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm sure it's nice, but I'm sure 52 00:02:42,090 --> 00:02:45,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: they miss you and we get a little time with you, which 53 00:02:45,630 --> 00:02:50,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: is awesome. So Becs, we have some excitement to announce 54 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:57,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: this week. It's crazy, Becs, I really don't consider myself 55 00:02:57,419 --> 00:03:00,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: a marathoner. I ran the New York City Marathon as 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,919 Rob Simmelkjaer: you know when I was graduating from law school back 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: in 1997 to date myself a little bit here, and that 58 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:11,638 Rob Simmelkjaer: was going to be kind of like a bucket list experience, 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: and it was incredible. And then something got in me 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: to do it again 16 years later in 2013 when 61 00:03:18,540 --> 00:03:20,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: I was just about to move out of the city 62 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:24,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: with our family, and that was incredible, a beautiful day 63 00:03:24,450 --> 00:03:27,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: and achieve my goals and all that. And then I was pretty 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: sure I was done running marathons, of course, getting back 65 00:03:30,150 --> 00:03:33,419 Rob Simmelkjaer: to New York Roadrunners now and working around them all 66 00:03:33,419 --> 00:03:37,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: the time, something has happened to me and I find myself 67 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:41,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: doing this now, running marathons over and over. And I 68 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:45,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: think what it is that I go to these marathons. 69 00:03:45,150 --> 00:03:48,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: I went to the London Marathon the first year I 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: was here at Roadrunners and I wasn't running it. I just 71 00:03:49,890 --> 00:03:53,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: went to be there. I'm on board of the Abbott World Marathon 72 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:56,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: Majors, so of course I go to a lot of the other majors, and 73 00:03:56,490 --> 00:03:59,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: I found that being at a marathon, I wasn't running. 74 00:03:59,940 --> 00:04:02,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: I just didn't enjoy that. It was hard for me 75 00:04:02,610 --> 00:04:05,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: to be in the scene and in the mix and 76 00:04:05,580 --> 00:04:08,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: not run it. And so other than New York, which 77 00:04:08,190 --> 00:04:10,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: of course I'm around every year, but don't run it, 78 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:12,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: can't run it because I've got way too much going 79 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: on. I'm way too busy. But other than that, I 80 00:04:15,390 --> 00:04:18,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: haven't been to a major since then that I haven't run. 81 00:04:18,630 --> 00:04:22,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: So as you all know, I ran Berlin last fall. 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,669 Rob Simmelkjaer: I ran Tokyo in March, that left me halfway to 83 00:04:26,670 --> 00:04:30,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: the six stars of the Abbott World Marathon Majors. And so 84 00:04:31,050 --> 00:04:34,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: I've just decided to keep this party going, Becs, and I'm going 85 00:04:34,410 --> 00:04:39,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: to run the 2025 Bank of America Chicago Marathon on 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: October 12. So excited. 87 00:04:42,779 --> 00:04:47,490 Becs Gentry: Yay. That is incredible. Well, congratulations first of all on 88 00:04:48,029 --> 00:04:52,350 Becs Gentry: taking the hardest step, which I think is committing to 89 00:04:53,220 --> 00:04:56,760 Becs Gentry: doing well, not the hardest, but it is very daunting for 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,380 Becs Gentry: most people to commit to a marathon, any race, knowing 91 00:05:01,380 --> 00:05:04,380 Becs Gentry: that you've got a big bulk of training between you and 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,919 Becs Gentry: the race day, and then tough run between you and 93 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,250 Becs Gentry: the finish line. But how wonderful, because you get to 94 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:17,609 Becs Gentry: take yourself on another adventure, both physically, mentally, and you 95 00:05:17,610 --> 00:05:19,380 Becs Gentry: get a nice big shiny medal at the end of 96 00:05:19,380 --> 00:05:21,990 Becs Gentry: it. And as you say, you're one step closer to 97 00:05:22,020 --> 00:05:25,859 Becs Gentry: that elusive six star of the World Marathon Majors medal. 98 00:05:26,159 --> 00:05:26,251 Becs Gentry: I mean, so cool. So cool. 99 00:05:26,251 --> 00:05:31,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs know, listen, I'm super lucky. I realize how lucky 100 00:05:31,020 --> 00:05:34,229 Rob Simmelkjaer: I am because of my role I get to get 101 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:37,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: into these marathons. It's a lot easier for me than 102 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: it is for the average person to get in, and 103 00:05:38,940 --> 00:05:41,279 Rob Simmelkjaer: I am very appreciative of that. And I want to thank 104 00:05:41,610 --> 00:05:46,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: Carey Pinkowski, Mike Nishi, the amazing team out in Chicago 105 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: for inviting me to run this year. So Chicago is 106 00:05:49,529 --> 00:05:52,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: such a beautiful city and I'm just excited to be 107 00:05:52,470 --> 00:05:55,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: a part of it. In addition to it being my 108 00:05:55,260 --> 00:05:59,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: four star, I also really decided, Becs, that if I'm 109 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to go for this sixth thing, it lines up 110 00:06:02,730 --> 00:06:06,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: well schedule- wise for me because London is next spring. 111 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:08,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: If I come out of this feeling, well, that would 112 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:10,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: be a good time to go for that. And then 113 00:06:10,020 --> 00:06:15,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: of course there's Boston and I can run Boston, of 114 00:06:15,390 --> 00:06:18,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: course I can get a bib. I know I can 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: get a bib and they'll kindly give me one. But 116 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:26,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: there's something about Boston, Becs, that makes me want to 117 00:06:26,430 --> 00:06:30,659 Rob Simmelkjaer: take on the challenge of qualifying. And it just turns out 118 00:06:31,020 --> 00:06:34,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: that the way that the Boston Marathon qualifying cycle works, 119 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: when you qualify for the Boston Marathon, the time that 120 00:06:37,380 --> 00:06:41,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: counts, it's not the age that you are when you 121 00:06:41,220 --> 00:06:45,089 Rob Simmelkjaer: run the qualifying race. It's the age you are on 122 00:06:45,089 --> 00:06:48,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: the day of the Boston Marathon that you're qualifying for. 123 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:51,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: I just learned this by talking to my friend Jack 124 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: Fleming, the race director of the Boston Marathon. So it 125 00:06:54,540 --> 00:07:00,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: turns out Becs that I can qualify for the 2027 Boston 126 00:07:00,810 --> 00:07:03,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: Marathon, which is the cycle that we would be in 127 00:07:03,690 --> 00:07:06,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: in October for the Chicago Marathon. And I will be, 128 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm just going to put my ages out there. I'll 129 00:07:08,820 --> 00:07:12,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: be 55 on the day of that Boston Marathon, but 130 00:07:12,510 --> 00:07:15,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'll only be 53 on the day of the Chicago 131 00:07:15,690 --> 00:07:18,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: Marathon that I would be running to try to qualify for. 132 00:07:18,930 --> 00:07:20,131 Becs Gentry: Is it a different qualifying time bracket? 133 00:07:20,131 --> 00:07:28,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's a different bracket. So I, at the age of 53, which I will be on October 12th because my 134 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: birthday is October 21st, I will be 53 trying to 135 00:07:31,860 --> 00:07:37,471 Rob Simmelkjaer: qualify for the 55 to 59 age bracket at the Boston Marathon. 136 00:07:37,471 --> 00:07:38,131 Becs Gentry: Fantastic. 137 00:07:38,460 --> 00:07:41,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: And for me, that's a good thing because I'm not 138 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: getting a lot faster. The magic of my running career, Becs, is that 139 00:07:46,470 --> 00:07:49,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: I've managed not to get slower, but I also haven't 140 00:07:49,290 --> 00:07:52,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: gotten a lot faster. But the qualifying times are getting 141 00:07:52,590 --> 00:07:55,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: slower, so that time to hit for me will be 142 00:07:55,380 --> 00:07:58,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: three hours and 30 minutes. As you know, I ran 327 143 00:07:58,950 --> 00:08:02,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: in Berlin last year, so I clearly got that in me. 144 00:08:02,910 --> 00:08:05,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'd like to run a couple minutes faster to create 145 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: a little bit more buffer. Because everybody knows you need 146 00:08:07,740 --> 00:08:10,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: that buffer time a lot of the time to actually 147 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: get into Boston. So yeah, that's my goal. Becs, is to 148 00:08:13,530 --> 00:08:17,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: run 325 or better to try to qualify for Boston 149 00:08:17,790 --> 00:08:19,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: in 2027. 150 00:08:20,460 --> 00:08:24,810 Becs Gentry: So many twists, so many wonderful, wonderful things that you 151 00:08:24,810 --> 00:08:25,860 Becs Gentry: will be able to celebrate. 152 00:08:25,890 --> 00:08:28,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, I need one thing though, Becs, if I'm going 153 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: to accomplish this and I want to run a good time in Chicago, 154 00:08:32,130 --> 00:08:35,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: I need a coach. I need some help. I've had 155 00:08:35,730 --> 00:08:37,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: some great help along the way the last couple of 156 00:08:37,590 --> 00:08:40,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: years I've used Runna, the terrific app that we have at 157 00:08:40,620 --> 00:08:42,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Roadrunners and I continue to use that. I've been 158 00:08:42,660 --> 00:08:45,209 Rob Simmelkjaer: using that to build my base. This summer I used 159 00:08:45,210 --> 00:08:48,449 Rob Simmelkjaer: that for Berlin. Of course, I've had Roberto Mandje who 160 00:08:48,450 --> 00:08:51,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: people know paced me and helped coach me in Berlin, and he 161 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:54,599 Rob Simmelkjaer: was amazing. But I was thinking, Becs, who do I 162 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: know who's really good at running marathons, who's got an 163 00:08:58,830 --> 00:09:03,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: incredible track record, who's a teacher who could help me 164 00:09:03,420 --> 00:09:06,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: get ready for Chicago? And I thought, " Gee, there's somebody I 165 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: speak to just about every week who I know is 166 00:09:10,110 --> 00:09:13,709 Rob Simmelkjaer: really good at this." And so I thought maybe Becs 167 00:09:14,010 --> 00:09:16,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: would help me. So, Becs, I'm here to ask, would 168 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:19,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: you consider coaching me to get me ready for the 169 00:09:19,410 --> 00:09:23,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: Chicago Marathon because I think it'd be great for me to have 170 00:09:23,370 --> 00:09:26,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: your help. I know you're not a coach in this 171 00:09:26,130 --> 00:09:29,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: way, you're obviously an incredible coach for all your Peloton 172 00:09:29,610 --> 00:09:31,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: followers, but this is not really what you do. But 173 00:09:31,620 --> 00:09:32,701 Rob Simmelkjaer: I know you know what to do. 174 00:09:32,701 --> 00:09:32,911 Becs Gentry: I do. 175 00:09:33,210 --> 00:09:35,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: So would you help get me ready for this and 176 00:09:35,970 --> 00:09:38,819 Rob Simmelkjaer: maybe our listeners can go along for the ride as 177 00:09:38,820 --> 00:09:41,819 Rob Simmelkjaer: you coach and hopefully don't torture me too much to 178 00:09:41,819 --> 00:09:44,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: get ready for the marathon this October? 179 00:09:45,420 --> 00:09:49,440 Becs Gentry: I would be honored too. I'd absolutely be honored too. 180 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,520 Becs Gentry: I think that will be very funny. And if it's 181 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,140 Becs Gentry: okay with you, I think we should talk about it 182 00:09:55,140 --> 00:09:59,641 Becs Gentry: on a weekly basis how I'm not torturing you. I know a lot of my- 183 00:09:59,641 --> 00:10:02,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: You can torture me a little if it's going to make me you faster. 184 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:03,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, just a look. 185 00:10:03,660 --> 00:10:05,939 Becs Gentry: I will. You know I will. All of our listeners who know me know I will. And 186 00:10:08,910 --> 00:10:10,770 Becs Gentry: that will be awesome and we should definitely make sure 187 00:10:10,770 --> 00:10:13,620 Becs Gentry: we get you into a Peloton class at some point 188 00:10:13,890 --> 00:10:16,980 Becs Gentry: during this time period as well. So I can actually see you 189 00:10:16,980 --> 00:10:19,860 Becs Gentry: running and check it out, but I'd be honored to 190 00:10:19,860 --> 00:10:21,569 Becs Gentry: come on this journey with you. 191 00:10:21,780 --> 00:10:24,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: Check on my form a little bit because you and I, as 192 00:10:24,210 --> 00:10:26,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: much as we've talked about running, you and I have 193 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: actually never run together. There's a good reason for that, 194 00:10:29,309 --> 00:10:31,949 Rob Simmelkjaer: which is that I can't stay anywhere near you. 195 00:10:31,949 --> 00:10:32,881 Becs Gentry: We're both normally working with these races. 196 00:10:32,881 --> 00:10:35,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yes, there's the work thing, but there's also the fact 197 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: that you would be walking and I'd be running. But 198 00:10:37,290 --> 00:10:40,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: other than that, we just haven't had a chance to 199 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:42,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: do it. But yes, that would be great if I came 200 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,339 Rob Simmelkjaer: to one of your classes and you can yell at 201 00:10:44,340 --> 00:10:46,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: me for not picking up my knees and that sort 202 00:10:46,290 --> 00:10:46,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: of thing. 203 00:10:47,730 --> 00:10:50,731 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. Oh my gosh, this is so exciting. Well, thank you for picking me. 204 00:10:50,731 --> 00:10:57,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: Coach Becs. Great. So we'll keep everybody in the loop. This'll be 205 00:10:57,150 --> 00:11:00,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: fun. The next 12 weeks or so, we'll do some 206 00:11:00,870 --> 00:11:06,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: updates. You know what I'll do? Maybe we'll put on social some of the things, Becs, that you're asking me to do every week 207 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: and then I can come back and report on how 208 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:11,851 Rob Simmelkjaer: that went, how the workouts went, how I felt- 209 00:11:11,851 --> 00:11:11,852 Becs Gentry: Sounds good. 210 00:11:11,852 --> 00:11:16,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... what Becs asked me to do. So thank you very much, Rebecca. 211 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: I appreciate that and I'm excited to run Chicago with you 212 00:11:20,730 --> 00:11:23,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: as my coach. So should be a lot of fun. 213 00:11:23,700 --> 00:11:25,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, looking back to New York for a second, Becs, 214 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: we've got a couple races coming up this weekend. We 215 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: have a new event coming up in New York this 216 00:11:31,110 --> 00:11:34,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: Saturday. It's the first time event, it's called the Start 217 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: Line Series, and this is a brand new two and 218 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: a half mile fun run. It's going to be out 219 00:11:41,550 --> 00:11:44,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: in Queens and it's part of New York City's Department 220 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,449 Rob Simmelkjaer: of Transportation summer streets. So New Yorkers know that the 221 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:52,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: city's been shutting down streets around the city during the summer 222 00:11:52,770 --> 00:11:55,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: on weekends to give people a chance to just walk 223 00:11:55,740 --> 00:11:58,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: and enjoy the streets. And so we're getting a chance 224 00:11:58,530 --> 00:12:01,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: to run a little bit of a race early on 225 00:12:01,230 --> 00:12:05,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: those closed streets. And so it's really for beginners, it's going 226 00:12:05,250 --> 00:12:08,069 Rob Simmelkjaer: to be a lot of fun. It's not competitive, it's 227 00:12:08,070 --> 00:12:10,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: not a nine plus one. It's not all of the 228 00:12:10,770 --> 00:12:13,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: kind of challenge that so many people have getting into our 229 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:17,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: races. It's open, it's free, it is unscored, it's untimed. 230 00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:21,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: And so it's a great opportunity for anyone out there 231 00:12:21,450 --> 00:12:23,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: listening or if you know someone who just wants to 232 00:12:23,790 --> 00:12:26,699 Rob Simmelkjaer: get into running, to come out and feel a little 233 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:28,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: bit of what it's like to run a race. So 234 00:12:28,890 --> 00:12:31,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: come join us. We still have spots left as we 235 00:12:31,410 --> 00:12:34,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: tape our podcast today. You can go to nyrr. org, 236 00:12:34,860 --> 00:12:37,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: create an account, sign up, you can even sign up 237 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: on the day of the race, by the way. So 238 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,459 Rob Simmelkjaer: there's that opportunity as well. But hopefully folks will come 239 00:12:41,460 --> 00:12:43,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: out and join us at the Start Line Series. Hope 240 00:12:43,860 --> 00:12:47,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: to see some new runners out there on Saturday. And then, Becs, 241 00:12:47,610 --> 00:12:50,189 Rob Simmelkjaer: on Sunday we are back in Central Park for one 242 00:12:50,190 --> 00:12:52,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: of my favorite events of the year, the New York 243 00:12:52,350 --> 00:12:57,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: Roadrunners Team Championships event. It's a five miler, super competitive, 244 00:12:57,300 --> 00:13:00,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: runner favorite for all those club runners out there. The 245 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:03,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: clubs are super competitive trying to get their team points 246 00:13:03,270 --> 00:13:06,961 Rob Simmelkjaer: and all that, and it's double the point for the team championships. 247 00:13:06,961 --> 00:13:06,962 Becs Gentry: Oh, it's exciting. Very exciting. 248 00:13:06,962 --> 00:13:12,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: Absolutely. Oh, so we have the men, the women, non- binary club points, races, 249 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:15,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: all worth double and, Becs, I don't know if you've been to 250 00:13:15,570 --> 00:13:18,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: that event. The best thing about it, the food. The 251 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: food is incredible. So many of the clubs come out 252 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: and bring picnics and they party after the race. So 253 00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:26,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: unfortunately I'll miss it this year, but I wish everybody 254 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:27,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: a great time on Sunday. 255 00:13:28,410 --> 00:13:31,980 Becs Gentry: Yeah, absolutely. Best of luck to all of them and all the teams because 256 00:13:31,980 --> 00:13:35,460 Becs Gentry: I know how much this community will come together and 257 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:38,070 Becs Gentry: just have a lot of fun. And also, I just 258 00:13:38,070 --> 00:13:42,030 Becs Gentry: have to say I do love the NYC Department of 259 00:13:42,090 --> 00:13:45,120 Becs Gentry: Transport Summer Streets. It is one of my most favorite 260 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,830 Becs Gentry: times of the year. I adore the fact that the streets are 261 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,730 Becs Gentry: just closed and people can move, ride their bikes, walk, 262 00:13:54,150 --> 00:13:58,410 Becs Gentry: run, whatever you want, and in the different locations around, 263 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:03,570 Becs Gentry: it's not just Manhattan, it's everywhere. So if you can't make 264 00:14:03,570 --> 00:14:06,870 Becs Gentry: it to Long Island, then don't fear. There are other places 265 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:12,689 Becs Gentry: you can do this. So thank you to the city of New York to doing this because 266 00:14:12,689 --> 00:14:16,020 Becs Gentry: it really does entice people to move and that's what 267 00:14:16,620 --> 00:14:18,660 Becs Gentry: we're here for. That is what we're all here for. 268 00:14:18,990 --> 00:14:21,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, it's a special thing. It's been a really nice 269 00:14:21,180 --> 00:14:24,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: initiative in New York over the last few summers. Well, Becs, 270 00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:27,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: we've been talking about Chicago and my run though. We're 271 00:14:27,990 --> 00:14:31,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to talk to someone today who ran Chicago just 272 00:14:31,710 --> 00:14:34,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: a little bit faster than I am going to be 273 00:14:34,050 --> 00:14:39,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: running Chicago this fall. Susanna Sullivan, who was the top 274 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:45,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: American finisher in Chicago last year, ran a blazing personal 275 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: record time of just over 221 and she will be 276 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: representing the United at the World Athletics Championships in Tokyo 277 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: this summer. She's an incredible runner. She's also a school 278 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: teacher. She's a sixth grade math teacher. It's actually to 279 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: me, the perfect combination of being a teacher and being 280 00:15:06,390 --> 00:15:08,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: a runner. She's going to talk to us about how 281 00:15:08,670 --> 00:15:11,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: she did what she did in Chicago last year, how 282 00:15:11,790 --> 00:15:15,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: she's planning to attack the world Championships in Tokyo, which 283 00:15:15,630 --> 00:15:19,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: promises to be hot and hilly this summer, and how 284 00:15:19,050 --> 00:15:23,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: she balances all that with teaching sixth graders pre- algebra. 285 00:15:23,250 --> 00:15:26,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: So Susanna's coming up in just a minute. So excited for 286 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: that conversation. And then later on today's member moment, our 287 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:31,979 Rob Simmelkjaer: friend Meb Keflezighi will be here with a runner who 288 00:15:32,250 --> 00:15:36,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: after two knee replacements ran his first marathon at the 289 00:15:36,450 --> 00:15:37,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: age of 75. 290 00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:38,910 Becs Gentry: Wow. 291 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: Incredible. That's unbelievable. So that will put all of our 292 00:15:43,590 --> 00:15:46,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: complaints right where they belong, which is in a basket 293 00:15:46,830 --> 00:15:50,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: far, far away because that's an incredible achievement. So we'll 294 00:15:50,370 --> 00:15:53,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: hear about that. 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Peloton, the official digital fitness partner 312 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,460 Speaker 4: for New York Roadrunners. 313 00:16:51,030 --> 00:16:54,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: On weekdays she's Ms. Sullivan, a sixth- grade math teacher 314 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: in Virginia. But on race day, Susanna Sullivan has proven 315 00:16:58,740 --> 00:17:02,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: herself to be one of the fastest American women on 316 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: the roads. Sullivan was the top American finisher at the 317 00:17:04,859 --> 00:17:11,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: 2024 Chicago Marathon, a blazing 221 56, making her the 318 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: 10th fastest US woman in history for the marathon. She 319 00:17:15,780 --> 00:17:18,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: then went on to be the top American finisher at the 320 00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:24,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: 2025 London Marathon, all while juggling lesson plans and grading 321 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: homework. And Susanna Sullivan is here to tell us what 322 00:17:26,910 --> 00:17:30,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's like to go from teaching pre- algebra on Friday 323 00:17:30,450 --> 00:17:34,889 Rob Simmelkjaer: to competing against world- class runners on a Sunday. Susanna 324 00:17:34,890 --> 00:17:37,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sullivan, it is great to see you and great to 325 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: have you on Set the Pace. Welcome. 326 00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:40,470 Susanna Sullivan: Thank you so much for having me. 327 00:17:41,550 --> 00:17:43,889 Rob Simmelkjaer: I've had a chance to see you from time to 328 00:17:43,890 --> 00:17:46,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: time around events, but we've never really had a chance 329 00:17:46,770 --> 00:17:48,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: to chat. I know you're meeting Becs for the first 330 00:17:48,750 --> 00:17:52,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: time, but it's really great to have you. And I 331 00:17:52,230 --> 00:17:56,399 Rob Simmelkjaer: guess I would start by asking you how you got 332 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: here, how did you get to this point, Susanna, of 333 00:18:00,420 --> 00:18:05,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: being a competitor at this level at the marathon distance? 334 00:18:05,070 --> 00:18:08,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: Is this where you thought you'd find yourself at 35 335 00:18:08,010 --> 00:18:08,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: years old? 336 00:18:10,109 --> 00:18:12,900 Susanna Sullivan: Not at all. The last several years have really just 337 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:19,830 Susanna Sullivan: been such a dream. I mean, as many distance runners 338 00:18:19,890 --> 00:18:23,010 Susanna Sullivan: do. I started out in soccer as a little kid 339 00:18:24,090 --> 00:18:26,940 Susanna Sullivan: and got involved in cross country and track when I was 340 00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:30,780 Susanna Sullivan: in middle school. My sister is two years older and 341 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,560 Susanna Sullivan: she showed some promise in cross country, in track. And so 342 00:18:36,030 --> 00:18:39,090 Susanna Sullivan: with sibling rivalry, I wanted a shot at it and 343 00:18:39,090 --> 00:18:44,429 Susanna Sullivan: I just really enjoyed it. I love that there's always 344 00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:49,830 Susanna Sullivan: something you can do better to improve. There's something you 345 00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:52,889 Susanna Sullivan: can focus on whether that's strength work or nutrition or 346 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:56,700 Susanna Sullivan: hydration. And I just found that showing up every day 347 00:18:56,700 --> 00:19:00,540 Susanna Sullivan: and putting forth my best effort was resulting in me 348 00:19:00,660 --> 00:19:04,230 Susanna Sullivan: making progress. And so I just loved that about the 349 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:08,429 Susanna Sullivan: sport and so headed off to Notre Dame for college, 350 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:14,850 Susanna Sullivan: had a kind of underwhelming college career. I've learned so much 351 00:19:15,570 --> 00:19:18,180 Susanna Sullivan: about the mental side of the sport in the year 352 00:19:18,180 --> 00:19:20,250 Susanna Sullivan: since graduating. And I really do think I just put 353 00:19:20,250 --> 00:19:24,209 Susanna Sullivan: a lot of pressure on myself and I didn't think 354 00:19:24,210 --> 00:19:26,400 Susanna Sullivan: I communicated with my coaches as well as I could 355 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,000 Susanna Sullivan: have about how much the training day in and day 356 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,659 Susanna Sullivan: out was beating me up. So when I graduated, I 357 00:19:33,660 --> 00:19:35,850 Susanna Sullivan: headed back to the DC area, that's where I went to 358 00:19:35,850 --> 00:19:40,649 Susanna Sullivan: high school and linked up with a running club there 359 00:19:40,650 --> 00:19:43,590 Susanna Sullivan: and was on that team for eight years and made 360 00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:47,550 Susanna Sullivan: some progress. I qualified for two Olympic trials with capital 361 00:19:47,550 --> 00:19:53,490 Susanna Sullivan: area runners. And then during the pandemic when I was 362 00:19:53,490 --> 00:19:59,670 Susanna Sullivan: teaching into my computer, I was slipping out at lunchtime 363 00:19:59,670 --> 00:20:02,790 Susanna Sullivan: and I didn't have a commute on either end and 364 00:20:02,790 --> 00:20:06,090 Susanna Sullivan: I was just finding pockets of time to get outside 365 00:20:06,090 --> 00:20:10,200 Susanna Sullivan: and get really active. And I think that being able 366 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:16,619 Susanna Sullivan: to increase my mileage in a deliberate way 2020, 2021 367 00:20:18,570 --> 00:20:21,030 Susanna Sullivan: kind of just really helped me to see that if 368 00:20:21,030 --> 00:20:24,359 Susanna Sullivan: I could stay healthy, I actually could put together, string 369 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,340 Susanna Sullivan: together a lot of good workouts. And I started to make 370 00:20:26,340 --> 00:20:30,240 Susanna Sullivan: a lot of progress in 2020 after I started working 371 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,970 Susanna Sullivan: with my current coach, Andrew Gerard. He's at George Mason 372 00:20:32,970 --> 00:20:36,630 Susanna Sullivan: University. And since working with him, I went from running 373 00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:38,520 Susanna Sullivan: 235 in the marathon, was my PR when we first 374 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,700 Susanna Sullivan: started working together and now it's 221. So working with 375 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:44,430 Susanna Sullivan: him really I think has been the catalyst for so 376 00:20:44,430 --> 00:20:48,990 Susanna Sullivan: much of the progress that I've made in the last 377 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,440 Susanna Sullivan: five years or so. We didn't completely revamp my training, 378 00:20:55,470 --> 00:20:58,950 Susanna Sullivan: but I feel like the communication, the trust there is 379 00:20:58,950 --> 00:21:03,300 Susanna Sullivan: just like I couldn't ask for more. We've really increased 380 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:05,910 Susanna Sullivan: my strength training. So that is one element of things 381 00:21:05,910 --> 00:21:11,310 Susanna Sullivan: that I think was a big change from what I 382 00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:12,300 Susanna Sullivan: was doing before. 383 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's so interesting to hear that, Becs, to make that 384 00:21:16,590 --> 00:21:21,629 Rob Simmelkjaer: big of a jump that is no joke, 235 to 221 and, Becs, to 385 00:21:21,630 --> 00:21:24,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: hear the strength component of that and what that's done as well. 386 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:31,020 Becs Gentry: It's so true, isn't it? I mean you see these big jumps throughout professional 387 00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:34,649 Becs Gentry: and non- professional careers, but the more people I talk 388 00:21:34,650 --> 00:21:39,540 Becs Gentry: to, the more people who honestly say, " Yes, I was running a 389 00:21:39,540 --> 00:21:42,330 Becs Gentry: lot more. Yes, I was doing some slightly different speed 390 00:21:42,330 --> 00:21:46,080 Becs Gentry: work," for example, but the vast majority of people really 391 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,970 Becs Gentry: do contribute that big change in PR time to strengthening 392 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,730 Becs Gentry: their body, their bones, their muscles, their joints. And just 393 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,050 Becs Gentry: feeling strong, especially over the marathon distance because boy do 394 00:21:58,050 --> 00:22:02,550 Becs Gentry: we all know that we need that support for 26. 2, right? 395 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,390 Susanna Sullivan: Right. I mean, I think we've all known it for 396 00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:10,170 Susanna Sullivan: a while that consistency is so critical and I think 397 00:22:10,170 --> 00:22:13,080 Susanna Sullivan: for me, having that strength training base so that I 398 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,770 Susanna Sullivan: can stay healthy so that I can string together weeks 399 00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:19,800 Susanna Sullivan: and months of training has just been huge. And I 400 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,460 Susanna Sullivan: really credit my coach in figuring out how to gradually 401 00:22:26,850 --> 00:22:29,340 Susanna Sullivan: get me to a place where I can be doing several 402 00:22:29,340 --> 00:22:35,609 Susanna Sullivan: hours of isometric work, which really wears you out. But managing 403 00:22:35,609 --> 00:22:39,090 Susanna Sullivan: to balance cross- training and the running work and the 404 00:22:39,090 --> 00:22:43,500 Susanna Sullivan: strength training work so that I'm able to handle it 405 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:47,010 Susanna Sullivan: at this point. And it's now just a regular part 406 00:22:47,010 --> 00:22:49,350 Susanna Sullivan: of the week's training. 407 00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:54,510 Becs Gentry: Yeah, it's part of your life. So the past 2024 to 2025 408 00:22:54,510 --> 00:22:58,740 Becs Gentry: has been another kind of roller coaster really for you. 409 00:23:01,230 --> 00:23:05,580 Becs Gentry: Rewind back to February '24 with the US Olympic trials in 410 00:23:05,580 --> 00:23:09,720 Becs Gentry: February, and you unfortunately had an injury that meant that 411 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,709 Becs Gentry: you couldn't compete that day. In hindsight, I bet the 412 00:23:13,710 --> 00:23:16,440 Becs Gentry: weather you were like, " Well, it was a pretty rough 413 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,929 Becs Gentry: day down there." But your, for want of a better word, 414 00:23:22,020 --> 00:23:27,510 Becs Gentry: comeback was October that year where you went to Chicago, 415 00:23:27,630 --> 00:23:31,440 Becs Gentry: the amazing Bank of America Chicago Marathon, and you ran 221 56, 416 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:37,680 Becs Gentry: which was the PR that you've mentioned. Seventh overall, first American, and 417 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,140 Becs Gentry: then we're going to talk about that in a second. 418 00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:44,670 Becs Gentry: But fast- forwarding to now or June, a few weeks, 419 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,930 Becs Gentry: it's just been announced that you're representing the USA in the marathon 420 00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:54,869 Becs Gentry: at the World Athletics Champs in Japan. And so definitely 421 00:23:54,869 --> 00:23:57,149 Becs Gentry: want to come back to Chicago and the PR, but 422 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,350 Becs Gentry: this is so fresh and so incredibly exciting. Huge congratulations 423 00:24:01,350 --> 00:24:03,270 Becs Gentry: by the way to you and to Jess McLean there 424 00:24:03,270 --> 00:24:06,810 Becs Gentry: at the camp. But how does it feel to be like, " 425 00:24:07,109 --> 00:24:09,930 Becs Gentry: I'm going to Japan, I'm going to be there with 426 00:24:09,930 --> 00:24:12,900 Becs Gentry: Team USA," seen as you missed the chance for Paris? 427 00:24:13,230 --> 00:24:17,669 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, no, I'm super excited. The injury that ended up keeping 428 00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:20,580 Susanna Sullivan: me out of the trials, it was an injury and 429 00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:22,379 Susanna Sullivan: I got COVID the week of the race. So it 430 00:24:25,619 --> 00:24:28,590 Susanna Sullivan: was pretty clear that going to Orlando was not going 431 00:24:28,590 --> 00:24:33,090 Susanna Sullivan: to make any sense, but I got that injury at 432 00:24:33,150 --> 00:24:38,189 Susanna Sullivan: the World Championships in Budapest, and so when I limped 433 00:24:38,190 --> 00:24:42,899 Susanna Sullivan: away from the course in Budapest, I just wanted another 434 00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:49,080 Susanna Sullivan: chance. And these things are never guaranteed and you can 435 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,020 Susanna Sullivan: wish it and want it. And I remember walking away 436 00:24:52,020 --> 00:24:57,060 Susanna Sullivan: thinking, I hope that we can find a way to 437 00:24:57,420 --> 00:24:59,700 Susanna Sullivan: get back and have another shot at Team USA and 438 00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:01,950 Susanna Sullivan: put my... and just have a day that I can 439 00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:05,640 Susanna Sullivan: really feel satisfied with and feel like it reflected all 440 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,109 Susanna Sullivan: the work that I had put into it and all 441 00:25:07,109 --> 00:25:10,980 Susanna Sullivan: the work that the team around me had helped prepare 442 00:25:10,980 --> 00:25:15,209 Susanna Sullivan: me for. And so yeah, then fast forwarding to the 443 00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:19,619 Susanna Sullivan: trials, we had kind of gotten the knee cap to 444 00:25:19,619 --> 00:25:23,129 Susanna Sullivan: a place... I had fractured my knee cap at the 445 00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:26,340 Susanna Sullivan: World Championships. Heading into it, about a week before the 446 00:25:26,340 --> 00:25:29,580 Susanna Sullivan: race I started to have some knee pain, but I 447 00:25:29,940 --> 00:25:32,669 Susanna Sullivan: kind of felt it go at 5K. There was a 448 00:25:32,670 --> 00:25:36,480 Susanna Sullivan: girl that got her foot underneath my heel, and it 449 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,270 Susanna Sullivan: lifted up my heel and I think I just hiked 450 00:25:39,270 --> 00:25:42,001 Susanna Sullivan: my hip enough that just, I (inaudible) 451 00:25:42,420 --> 00:25:45,481 Rob Simmelkjaer: What does that feel like, Susanna? 452 00:25:45,481 --> 00:25:50,159 Susanna Sullivan: I'm not sure how I made it to the finish line because 453 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:56,010 Susanna Sullivan: it didn't stop hurting just walking around for months. So 454 00:25:56,730 --> 00:25:59,700 Susanna Sullivan: yeah, it was a lot. But then we got to 455 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:03,210 Susanna Sullivan: a place where I felt like you never know what'll 456 00:26:03,210 --> 00:26:05,460 Susanna Sullivan: happen in a marathon. So we felt like heading into 457 00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:10,470 Susanna Sullivan: Orlando, maybe there was a chance. I definitely wasn't as 458 00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:12,810 Susanna Sullivan: fit as I wanted to be, and I was kind 459 00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:18,990 Susanna Sullivan: of having to contend with the emotional strife of knowing 460 00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:21,330 Susanna Sullivan: that I was capable of more than what I was 461 00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:23,340 Susanna Sullivan: going to be able to put together on that day. 462 00:26:23,730 --> 00:26:25,530 Susanna Sullivan: And then I think it was the Monday of that 463 00:26:25,530 --> 00:26:28,470 Susanna Sullivan: week I was at work, and that was still when 464 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,600 Susanna Sullivan: the school office had stockpiles of COVID tests and I 465 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,020 Susanna Sullivan: just started, I really wasn't feeling well and I went 466 00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:39,450 Susanna Sullivan: to the school office and said, " Can I borrow a COVID 467 00:26:39,450 --> 00:26:44,700 Susanna Sullivan: test?" And they said, " Yeah, sure." And I took it and they said, " You 468 00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:46,710 Susanna Sullivan: need to go home." And I thought, " Yeah, and also 469 00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:49,020 Susanna Sullivan: Saturday's the Olympic trial, so I guess that's off too." 470 00:26:50,250 --> 00:26:56,550 Susanna Sullivan: But maybe in retrospect, maybe it was... I think running 471 00:26:56,820 --> 00:27:00,810 Susanna Sullivan: on COVID or with COVID on a not a hundred 472 00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:05,880 Susanna Sullivan: percent kneecap probably would've meant that Chicago wasn't as magical a day as it 473 00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:12,030 Susanna Sullivan: ended up being. So everything happens for a reason. And 474 00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:15,240 Susanna Sullivan: so I was so excited that Chicago went as well 475 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,790 Susanna Sullivan: as it did. It was the first marathon that my 476 00:27:17,790 --> 00:27:21,720 Susanna Sullivan: coach ever was there in person for, and I feel 477 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,100 Susanna Sullivan: like having him there before just as a calming presence 478 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:29,130 Susanna Sullivan: and then out along the course just to remind me 479 00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:35,280 Susanna Sullivan: to calm down, just visualize the training that we had 480 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,240 Susanna Sullivan: done to get to that point. It was just really special. 481 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:42,270 Susanna Sullivan: And so I was just so relieved that it came together on that 482 00:27:42,270 --> 00:27:46,290 Susanna Sullivan: day because there had been a lot of hours in the pool 483 00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:51,210 Susanna Sullivan: and the comeback from the kneecap injury that my husband 484 00:27:51,210 --> 00:27:52,980 Susanna Sullivan: and my coach, I feel like were kind of playing 485 00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:54,869 Susanna Sullivan: tag team to kind of keep my spirits up for 486 00:27:54,869 --> 00:27:59,340 Susanna Sullivan: months. And so I felt like I needed to do 487 00:27:59,340 --> 00:28:02,520 Susanna Sullivan: my part to stay on it in the weight room 488 00:28:03,090 --> 00:28:05,250 Susanna Sullivan: and physical therapy and all the things I was doing 489 00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:08,669 Susanna Sullivan: to recover and really stay on it in cross- training 490 00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:11,940 Susanna Sullivan: and trying to build a base so that when I 491 00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:14,550 Susanna Sullivan: could get back to running that it would build something 492 00:28:14,550 --> 00:28:17,400 Susanna Sullivan: like Chicago. So it was just such a relief that 493 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,280 Susanna Sullivan: it came together because I mean, as we all know, 494 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Susanna Sullivan: lots can happen on Marathon day and you don't always get 495 00:28:25,109 --> 00:28:26,220 Susanna Sullivan: the day you prepared for. 496 00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:30,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, I mean you talk about it coming together and 497 00:28:31,230 --> 00:28:33,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: that really is it, isn't it? I mean, a lot 498 00:28:33,330 --> 00:28:36,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: of things kind of have to align sometimes to have 499 00:28:37,020 --> 00:28:39,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: a day like the day you had in Chicago. And 500 00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:44,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: you talked about your college career injuries, I know were 501 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: a part of that, and that held you back from 502 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:50,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: maybe accomplishing what you wanted to accomplish in college. You 503 00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:53,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: talked about the injuries you had as a pro, and 504 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: so what did it feel like for you to just 505 00:28:56,790 --> 00:28:59,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: have it all come together that way and cross the 506 00:28:59,970 --> 00:29:04,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: finish line and have the realization of the changes you'd 507 00:29:04,530 --> 00:29:07,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: made in your training, the changes you'd made in your 508 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: body, everything that you'd done kind of all come together 509 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: on that day. And then when it does, how do 510 00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:17,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: you feel about, okay, can you make it come together 511 00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:21,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: again, right? Because it's almost like you feel like lightning 512 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: strikes in a good way and then you're trying to 513 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:23,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: make it strike again. 514 00:29:24,540 --> 00:29:30,030 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, I mean I feel like I was just living a dream for the 515 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:35,250 Susanna Sullivan: week or two after it, and then I feel like 516 00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:38,160 Susanna Sullivan: I've been around the sport long enough. I read everything, 517 00:29:40,050 --> 00:29:44,040 Susanna Sullivan: books all these elite athletes, especially in the last couple 518 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,630 Susanna Sullivan: of years, a lot of books have come out. And 519 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:51,120 Susanna Sullivan: I've read a lot about that understanding that it's nice 520 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,070 Susanna Sullivan: to be able to learn from other people's mistakes and 521 00:29:53,370 --> 00:29:55,380 Susanna Sullivan: you obviously have to learn from your own as well, 522 00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:57,570 Susanna Sullivan: but a lot of people say that they have a 523 00:29:57,570 --> 00:29:59,340 Susanna Sullivan: big performance and then they think that they have to 524 00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:04,080 Susanna Sullivan: do something bigger and greater in order to get to 525 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,190 Susanna Sullivan: higher heights. And I think that I've learned from enough 526 00:30:08,190 --> 00:30:10,530 Susanna Sullivan: people who've gone before me and have kind of shared 527 00:30:10,530 --> 00:30:15,360 Susanna Sullivan: their story that it's really about consistency and you don't 528 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,900 Susanna Sullivan: have to do something. You don't have to run significantly 529 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:22,020 Susanna Sullivan: more miles or do significantly more cross- training or lift 530 00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:26,310 Susanna Sullivan: heavier weights or completely change your diet or whatever it 531 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:29,610 Susanna Sullivan: is. It's a matter of just continuing to stack bricks. 532 00:30:30,150 --> 00:30:32,130 Susanna Sullivan: And so I think that that was something that my 533 00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:35,490 Susanna Sullivan: coach and I reflected on after the race that I didn't 534 00:30:35,490 --> 00:30:40,800 Susanna Sullivan: need to do anything drastic to feel like I could 535 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,350 Susanna Sullivan: continue to improve. And so I think just checking in 536 00:30:46,350 --> 00:30:48,240 Susanna Sullivan: on that and remembering that every once in a while, 537 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,010 Susanna Sullivan: that if I just keep doing what I'm doing and 538 00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:54,990 Susanna Sullivan: focus on the things that have worked for me in 539 00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:59,280 Susanna Sullivan: the past and don't pay attention to what everybody else 540 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,130 Susanna Sullivan: is doing, and if it's different from mine, not second 541 00:31:02,130 --> 00:31:07,380 Susanna Sullivan: guessing my approach to training, and that's probably going to 542 00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:09,600 Susanna Sullivan: be what serves me best and is going to make 543 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,030 Susanna Sullivan: it more likely that lightning can strike again. 544 00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:18,720 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. So talking about doing what you do best as 545 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,810 Becs Gentry: well as running, you are also a second grade math 546 00:31:24,810 --> 00:31:26,010 Becs Gentry: teacher, is that right? 547 00:31:26,550 --> 00:31:26,970 Susanna Sullivan: Sixth. 548 00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:29,850 Becs Gentry: Sixth grade, I've been in the US long enough I 549 00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:31,860 Becs Gentry: should know, but I have no idea about the school 550 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,380 Becs Gentry: system as my daughter's about to enter it, and I'm like, " 551 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:37,890 Becs Gentry: What?" Sixth grade math teacher. So what age is that? 552 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:38,370 Becs Gentry: What age are they? 553 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,840 Susanna Sullivan: They're 11 and 12. 554 00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:43,650 Becs Gentry: Oh geez. Okay. So really you have- 555 00:31:43,650 --> 00:31:43,651 Rob Simmelkjaer: Tweens as we call them. 556 00:31:43,651 --> 00:31:51,510 Becs Gentry: ... full on days. Yes, there's attitude, there's probably a lot of patience being 557 00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:55,710 Becs Gentry: taken from you. What is your typical day? 558 00:31:57,570 --> 00:32:01,290 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, yeah, I mean it is a fun age and I 559 00:32:01,290 --> 00:32:03,840 Susanna Sullivan: started out with little, little kids when I first started 560 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,690 Susanna Sullivan: teaching. I did pre- K and kindergarten. 561 00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:08,521 Becs Gentry: I know that one, that's why she is. And then 562 00:32:08,521 --> 00:32:12,930 Susanna Sullivan: I then made the jump to fifth grade, was fifth grade for nine years 563 00:32:12,930 --> 00:32:15,630 Susanna Sullivan: and then have been in sixth grade the last three- 564 00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:19,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's a big jump by the way. As someone who's had two girls 565 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: go through all those ages, that's a big change. 566 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,750 Susanna Sullivan: I feel like people told me I'd find the things 567 00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:30,900 Susanna Sullivan: that I didn't like and that I liked about each 568 00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:34,530 Susanna Sullivan: age group, and I do like that, I mean, I 569 00:32:34,530 --> 00:32:37,320 Susanna Sullivan: love the relationship building part of that age. I have 570 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,070 Susanna Sullivan: girls in my sixth grade class who really got into 571 00:32:41,070 --> 00:32:47,130 Susanna Sullivan: the running thing and their mothers would shoot me emails 572 00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:49,620 Susanna Sullivan: just letting me know they're having a really hard time 573 00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:51,150 Susanna Sullivan: building up the nerve, but they really want to have 574 00:32:51,150 --> 00:32:52,740 Susanna Sullivan: lunch with you. And they're going to say it's about 575 00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:55,170 Susanna Sullivan: math, but they really just want to talk about running. And 576 00:32:55,170 --> 00:33:00,390 Susanna Sullivan: so it's just a cool time in their lives where the relationships 577 00:33:00,390 --> 00:33:03,420 Susanna Sullivan: that they build with the people outside of their family 578 00:33:03,420 --> 00:33:05,550 Susanna Sullivan: are starting to have more and more of an impact 579 00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:10,320 Susanna Sullivan: on them, and they're seeking out relationships with the people 580 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,940 Susanna Sullivan: outside of their families, which is just kind of cool. 581 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:17,040 Susanna Sullivan: So a typical day, my school, I just started working 582 00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:21,780 Susanna Sullivan: last year at the Langley School in McLean, Virginia. And 583 00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:24,990 Susanna Sullivan: before that I had been at a public school for 584 00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:27,540 Susanna Sullivan: nine years, and then before that I was actually at 585 00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:30,120 Susanna Sullivan: Langley. That's where I started my teaching career and that's 586 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,720 Susanna Sullivan: when I was with the little people. I like pre- 587 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,390 Susanna Sullivan: K kindergarten age. And so I am back at Langley. 588 00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:43,320 Susanna Sullivan: It starts earlier than my old school and that was 589 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,530 Susanna Sullivan: an adjustment last year. I have to be on campus 590 00:33:46,530 --> 00:33:49,560 Susanna Sullivan: at 7: 45 and I'm not a morning person and 591 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,560 Susanna Sullivan: I'm working on it. We are actually in Maine now where 592 00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:55,920 Susanna Sullivan: the sun comes up in the morning, in the summer, so like 4: 593 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,090 Susanna Sullivan: 30 or five. So we're working on it. So we'll 594 00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:03,270 Susanna Sullivan: see if I can transition back at the start of 595 00:34:03,270 --> 00:34:07,110 Susanna Sullivan: the school year to maybe being a morning person all 596 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:10,739 Susanna Sullivan: of a sudden. But I usually try to do something 597 00:34:10,739 --> 00:34:13,380 Susanna Sullivan: in the morning, whether that's a strength training thing or cross- 598 00:34:13,380 --> 00:34:19,980 Susanna Sullivan: training thing. I try not to do my heavier run 599 00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:22,469 Susanna Sullivan: in the morning during the school year just because I'm 600 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,960 Susanna Sullivan: hardly awake. And then I'll do my longer workouts in 601 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,390 Susanna Sullivan: the afternoon after school. In the summer, it's completely different, 602 00:34:34,770 --> 00:34:36,719 Susanna Sullivan: I could do almost all my volume in the morning. 603 00:34:38,070 --> 00:34:44,580 Susanna Sullivan: But yeah, so I am usually up around six, 6: 604 00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:48,375 Susanna Sullivan: 30 and I try to get in 45 minutes to 605 00:34:48,375 --> 00:34:52,020 Susanna Sullivan: an hour of something, whether that's a strength training session or 606 00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:57,150 Susanna Sullivan: some cross- training and then head off to school. Because 607 00:34:57,150 --> 00:35:01,020 Susanna Sullivan: I'm in a middle school, I do have breaks throughout 608 00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:03,900 Susanna Sullivan: the day. At my old school I was with kids 609 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,380 Susanna Sullivan: from the moment I arrived until the moment I left. 610 00:35:08,430 --> 00:35:11,790 Susanna Sullivan: And there are opportunities in a middle school model for 611 00:35:11,790 --> 00:35:16,680 Susanna Sullivan: me to have meetings with my colleagues about kids and 612 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,930 Susanna Sullivan: upcoming things and have time to grade. So I do 613 00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:21,330 Susanna Sullivan: get a little bit of time to breathe and maybe 614 00:35:21,330 --> 00:35:24,210 Susanna Sullivan: have a snack throughout the day, which was a really 615 00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:27,330 Susanna Sullivan: nice change last year just in terms of lifestyle, get 616 00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:33,600 Susanna Sullivan: a moment to breathe. But yeah, I've usually got four 617 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,150 Susanna Sullivan: sections of math throughout the day and each of those 618 00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:40,739 Susanna Sullivan: classes has about 15 kids in it. And then we 619 00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:46,440 Susanna Sullivan: have an advisory period or an elective. So sometimes that's 620 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,290 Susanna Sullivan: just helping the kids with executive functioning things, getting them 621 00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:52,950 Susanna Sullivan: organized, just making sure that they are building good habits 622 00:35:53,489 --> 00:35:56,400 Susanna Sullivan: when they head off to high school. And having a consistent 623 00:35:57,030 --> 00:36:00,270 Susanna Sullivan: adult check- in, making sure that homework is turned in 624 00:36:00,270 --> 00:36:05,100 Susanna Sullivan: and that they've taken care of things they need to take care of. The school does a 625 00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:08,969 Susanna Sullivan: really great job at getting the kids to advocate for 626 00:36:08,969 --> 00:36:12,210 Susanna Sullivan: themselves and communicate via email with their teachers. So oftentimes 627 00:36:12,210 --> 00:36:14,700 Susanna Sullivan: that's just sitting down with the kids and making sure 628 00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:17,219 Susanna Sullivan: that we've made a checklist and we've emailed the people we 629 00:36:17,219 --> 00:36:19,469 Susanna Sullivan: need to email. And so I think that's just a 630 00:36:19,469 --> 00:36:22,590 Susanna Sullivan: great life skill that they're learning in middle school. And 631 00:36:22,590 --> 00:36:26,640 Susanna Sullivan: then sometimes I teach an elective and that's the last 632 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,529 Susanna Sullivan: class period of the day and they have a lot 633 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:33,239 Susanna Sullivan: of really cool choices for the kids to just have fun. 634 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: So that's not math, that's something fun. 635 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,630 Susanna Sullivan: It could be anything. So we have girls in STEM, 636 00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:42,689 Susanna Sullivan: we have puzzling, we have robotics, we have all sorts 637 00:36:42,690 --> 00:36:46,920 Susanna Sullivan: of interesting, sometimes there are more sports oriented ones in the school 638 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,000 Susanna Sullivan: newspaper, things like that. So we've got that during the day and 639 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,950 Susanna Sullivan: then as soon as school is over, I head off 640 00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:57,780 Susanna Sullivan: to George Mason University. That's where my coach, he's the 641 00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:00,810 Susanna Sullivan: director of the program there. He's been there close to 642 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:07,290 Susanna Sullivan: 20 years now, and the men's team there, there's just 643 00:37:07,290 --> 00:37:08,940 Susanna Sullivan: a lot of guys that I can overlap with and 644 00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:11,310 Susanna Sullivan: work as I'm a volunteer assistant there in the afternoons. 645 00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:15,900 Susanna Sullivan: And it's just a great team. The men and the 646 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,719 Susanna Sullivan: women, they work really hard. They've got a lot of 647 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:25,440 Susanna Sullivan: passion for the sport, and so it's really, no matter 648 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,569 Susanna Sullivan: how the day has gone at school, no matter how 649 00:37:27,570 --> 00:37:30,690 Susanna Sullivan: draining it's been or whatever, going there and being surrounded 650 00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:35,489 Susanna Sullivan: by people who are 18 to 24 years old and 651 00:37:35,489 --> 00:37:39,989 Susanna Sullivan: are just super excited and are oftentimes kind of immersed in 652 00:37:39,989 --> 00:37:44,850 Susanna Sullivan: that upward trajectory in their running journey, it just gives 653 00:37:44,850 --> 00:37:48,390 Susanna Sullivan: me a lot of energy. It's a great team. They've 654 00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:52,200 Susanna Sullivan: got great coaches, they're improving, and so to just be 655 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,370 Susanna Sullivan: around that and to be around their excitement, it's just 656 00:37:56,370 --> 00:38:00,180 Susanna Sullivan: really cool. And they help me out too because it's 657 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,540 Susanna Sullivan: awesome to have company for warm up or a cool down and 658 00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:05,910 Susanna Sullivan: then occasionally an interval or two. I usually get there 659 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:08,640 Susanna Sullivan: a little too late to really be able to overlap 660 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,590 Susanna Sullivan: a lot in workouts. But yeah, it's been a win- 661 00:38:13,590 --> 00:38:14,520 Susanna Sullivan: win I think, I hope. 662 00:38:15,450 --> 00:38:22,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: Susanna, I'm curious about being a math teacher and a 663 00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:25,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: runner at the same time. It sounds like the two 664 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: lifestyles probably go really well together in terms of the 665 00:38:28,110 --> 00:38:31,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: time you have to run, especially in the afternoons, it 666 00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:35,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: makes sense and then summers it's perfect. Do you use 667 00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:39,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: your math knowledge in your running at all? Do you look 668 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:42,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: at your times, look at your training, look at the 669 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:46,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: way you're approaching it, because there's a lot of numbers 670 00:38:46,469 --> 00:38:51,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: in running, there's a lot of numbers in the whole 671 00:38:51,090 --> 00:38:55,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: buildup and all of that. Do you ever find yourself making 672 00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:59,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: a little formula for your training or your running or 673 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: throwing a variable or two in there when you're starting 674 00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:02,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: to think about how you can run? 675 00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:06,420 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, I mean there's so much data available to us in 676 00:39:06,540 --> 00:39:09,060 Susanna Sullivan: running, and I do love to look at numbers and 677 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:12,989 Susanna Sullivan: just, I like to see patterns and things and it's 678 00:39:13,170 --> 00:39:15,180 Susanna Sullivan: so easy to compare things and I feel like I 679 00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:18,060 Susanna Sullivan: try to strike that balance between being interested in the 680 00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:22,050 Susanna Sullivan: data and noticing things, but not getting too compulsive about 681 00:39:22,050 --> 00:39:24,450 Susanna Sullivan: it because I mean, I know a lot of distance 682 00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:26,880 Susanna Sullivan: runners can tend to get a bit compulsive about their 683 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,930 Susanna Sullivan: training. One of the things that I really love about the curriculum 684 00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:34,650 Susanna Sullivan: we have at my school and for sixth grade is that 685 00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:38,279 Susanna Sullivan: being pre- algebra, a ton of rates and ratios and 686 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,080 Susanna Sullivan: proportions and almost all the word problems in the book 687 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,719 Susanna Sullivan: that they have are based on running, and they're actually 688 00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,860 Susanna Sullivan: fairly realistic. There have been some workbooks and textbooks that I've 689 00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:54,630 Susanna Sullivan: encountered over the years where it's like Sally ran 85 690 00:39:54,630 --> 00:40:01,440 Susanna Sullivan: miles in whatever, and you're like, " What? Okay." Or Sally 691 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,540 Susanna Sullivan: ran three miles in 47 hours and you're like, " No." 692 00:40:08,820 --> 00:40:12,570 Susanna Sullivan: So this book is great because the curriculum that we 693 00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:17,910 Susanna Sullivan: use, there's a lot of sports word problems and application 694 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:24,450 Susanna Sullivan: in there, and a lot of the kids in the 695 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,239 Susanna Sullivan: grade that I just had. We'll see what happens with 696 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,200 Susanna Sullivan: this next group, but there's a lot of sports fans 697 00:40:31,980 --> 00:40:36,330 Susanna Sullivan: and so it was very easy to kind of connect 698 00:40:36,330 --> 00:40:40,620 Susanna Sullivan: proportions and ratios to the math that was relevant and 699 00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:45,510 Susanna Sullivan: that they were learning at the time. Yeah, so there's 700 00:40:45,780 --> 00:40:47,969 Susanna Sullivan: a lot of crossover there, and it's cool to be 701 00:40:47,969 --> 00:40:52,080 Susanna Sullivan: able to show them, " Okay, so if I wanted to 702 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:58,319 Susanna Sullivan: average X pace and I was at the four- mile 703 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:04,080 Susanna Sullivan: mark at 20 minutes and let's say 54 seconds, how 704 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,670 Susanna Sullivan: fast do I need to run this next mile?" And 705 00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:08,790 Susanna Sullivan: so having them kind of figure those things out like, " 706 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:10,290 Susanna Sullivan: How fast do I need to run the next mile 707 00:41:10,290 --> 00:41:14,370 Susanna Sullivan: in order to average what I wanted to average?" It's 708 00:41:14,370 --> 00:41:16,230 Susanna Sullivan: just really interesting and they get more invested in it 709 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:21,150 Susanna Sullivan: if they think that you care about it. And so 710 00:41:21,210 --> 00:41:27,870 Susanna Sullivan: yeah, there is a good crossover. My mother was an English 711 00:41:27,870 --> 00:41:30,930 Susanna Sullivan: teacher and grading essays just takes a really, really long 712 00:41:30,930 --> 00:41:35,160 Susanna Sullivan: time, but I feel like grading math stuff doesn't usually 713 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,370 Susanna Sullivan: take... it shouldn't take as long, but then I love 714 00:41:38,370 --> 00:41:42,030 Susanna Sullivan: to look at their work and figure out if the 715 00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:43,410 Susanna Sullivan: train went off the tracks, where it went off the 716 00:41:43,410 --> 00:41:45,930 Susanna Sullivan: tracks so that I can give feedback. So it does 717 00:41:45,930 --> 00:41:49,980 Susanna Sullivan: take a substantial amount of time, but it's interesting to 718 00:41:49,980 --> 00:41:53,670 Susanna Sullivan: me when I'm grading papers, it's kind of like a 719 00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:58,350 Susanna Sullivan: nice brain break from running. And so I tend to 720 00:41:58,350 --> 00:42:00,660 Susanna Sullivan: do that in the evening, so after I leave Mason 721 00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:01,800 Susanna Sullivan: in the afternoon, to kind of get back to your 722 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,610 Susanna Sullivan: question about what a day looks like. After I leave 723 00:42:05,610 --> 00:42:07,890 Susanna Sullivan: Mason, I usually hit the pool on the way home. 724 00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:11,520 Susanna Sullivan: We're really fortunate in this area that there's quite a 725 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,000 Susanna Sullivan: few pools that I can get to pretty quickly on 726 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,989 Susanna Sullivan: the way home, and I usually do about an hour 727 00:42:18,989 --> 00:42:22,140 Susanna Sullivan: of cross- training. And so depending on what I've done 728 00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:24,390 Susanna Sullivan: in the morning, I'll finish it off in the evening 729 00:42:26,489 --> 00:42:32,400 Susanna Sullivan: and then after that, usually I try to get dinner right 730 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,910 Susanna Sullivan: away after that and then usually do a little bit 731 00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:40,560 Susanna Sullivan: of grading, maybe like 30 to 45 minutes. I feel like as 732 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,529 Susanna Sullivan: I've gotten older in the last couple of years, I've found more 733 00:42:43,530 --> 00:42:45,480 Susanna Sullivan: and more that I need kind of a buffer to 734 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,969 Susanna Sullivan: decompress between the running and the schoolwork and being ready 735 00:42:50,969 --> 00:42:54,660 Susanna Sullivan: to go to sleep. So I've been trying to find 736 00:42:56,130 --> 00:43:00,450 Susanna Sullivan: opportunities to just relax at the end of the day, 737 00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:04,800 Susanna Sullivan: but sleep is so important that it really is just during 738 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,870 Susanna Sullivan: the week, I have to be pretty disciplined in order 739 00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:09,750 Susanna Sullivan: to make sure that I have everything ready to go 740 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:12,719 Susanna Sullivan: and I can get to sleep so that I can recover. 741 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:19,950 Becs Gentry: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Random rumor, do you actually run with your 742 00:43:20,310 --> 00:43:21,450 Becs Gentry: kids at school ever? 743 00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:25,799 Susanna Sullivan: At my old school used to go for a walk 744 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,930 Susanna Sullivan: in the woods every day. We had a park behind 745 00:43:27,930 --> 00:43:30,870 Susanna Sullivan: the school and sometimes we would jog a little bit. 746 00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:35,670 Susanna Sullivan: The school that I'm at now has a turf field 747 00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:39,300 Susanna Sullivan: that's pretty close to my classroom and it has painted track 748 00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:43,140 Susanna Sullivan: laps on it, so I like to get outside for 749 00:43:44,670 --> 00:43:48,900 Susanna Sullivan: things that are active. I don't tend to go for real 750 00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:52,170 Susanna Sullivan: runs with them just because our campus is fairly small. 751 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,550 Susanna Sullivan: But yeah, there's a lot of local races in the 752 00:43:56,550 --> 00:44:01,830 Susanna Sullivan: area, and so it's fun to see them at... The 753 00:44:01,830 --> 00:44:05,160 Susanna Sullivan: school is a fairly active community. There's a 5K in 754 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,560 Susanna Sullivan: McLean that schools or a lot of kids from the 755 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,219 Susanna Sullivan: school do, so it's cool to just see them at running events 756 00:44:11,219 --> 00:44:13,440 Susanna Sullivan: and a lot of them like to do local 5Ks 757 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,040 Susanna Sullivan: and things like that. 758 00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,190 Becs Gentry: Yeah. I'm sure they love seeing you too. They're like, " Ms. 759 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:23,670 Becs Gentry: Sullivan, she's winning." That's so inspiring for them. I love 760 00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:29,341 Becs Gentry: it. I really hope my daughter has a teacher like that, selfishly, who's a runner, obviously. 761 00:44:29,341 --> 00:44:31,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: Susanna, I want to talk about Tokyo a little bit 762 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:35,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: and your approach to running in the world Championships there. 763 00:44:35,370 --> 00:44:38,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's an interesting event, the World Championships, we had a 764 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:42,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: group talking about this after the MasterCard Mini- 10K in 765 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:45,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York, and the approaches that people take to that 766 00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:49,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: race. It's coming into the fall. There's fall major marathons 767 00:44:49,860 --> 00:44:53,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: that are happening. You got some folks who choose to 768 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: run the champion the world championships, some who don't. What's 769 00:44:56,580 --> 00:44:59,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: your approach going to be going into that race? How 770 00:44:59,969 --> 00:45:02,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: are you thinking about it? Are you really focused on 771 00:45:02,670 --> 00:45:04,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: getting on the podium? Are you just trying to have 772 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: a good day? Are there other fall marathons that you're 773 00:45:07,950 --> 00:45:10,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: thinking about as well? How are you thinking about the world 774 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: championships and what it means for you and your progression? 775 00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:19,680 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, I mean, we're definitely making it the priority in 776 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,750 Susanna Sullivan: the training for the fall. We know that it's going 777 00:45:24,750 --> 00:45:27,630 Susanna Sullivan: to be hot and humid and hilly, and with having 778 00:45:27,630 --> 00:45:32,280 Susanna Sullivan: an all- Brooks team, it has just given me such 779 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,830 Susanna Sullivan: an opportunity to learn more about training for humidity and 780 00:45:37,830 --> 00:45:42,630 Susanna Sullivan: hills. We were out, the three of us and others, 781 00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:45,930 Susanna Sullivan: but Jess and Erica and I were out in Seattle 782 00:45:45,930 --> 00:45:49,950 Susanna Sullivan: a couple of weeks ago and we were meeting with 783 00:45:49,950 --> 00:45:54,089 Susanna Sullivan: all sorts of people on the Brooks campus, but we 784 00:45:54,090 --> 00:45:58,380 Susanna Sullivan: met with their exercise physiologist and a couple other people 785 00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:03,090 Susanna Sullivan: who work in their research lab. And they've been helping us 786 00:46:03,090 --> 00:46:08,969 Susanna Sullivan: to understand our individualized sweat rates and just kind the 787 00:46:08,969 --> 00:46:13,110 Susanna Sullivan: way that we handle heat and humidity. And I just think 788 00:46:13,110 --> 00:46:16,710 Susanna Sullivan: that's just felt a lot of support and I feel 789 00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:23,700 Susanna Sullivan: like Brooks is putting a lot of their energy into 790 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,850 Susanna Sullivan: helping us be as prepared as we can be. And 791 00:46:26,850 --> 00:46:31,500 Susanna Sullivan: so I'm just super excited for this opportunity to work together 792 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:39,719 Susanna Sullivan: with Erica and Jess and hopefully, I think all of 793 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600 Susanna Sullivan: us have aspirations to be close to medaling as we 794 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:48,180 Susanna Sullivan: can. And we've been saying so many things can happen 795 00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:51,750 Susanna Sullivan: in the marathon. I think that with it being a 796 00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:54,750 Susanna Sullivan: course that is hot and humid and has a lot 797 00:46:54,750 --> 00:47:00,810 Susanna Sullivan: of hills, it gives, those things can be equalizers depending 798 00:47:00,810 --> 00:47:03,180 Susanna Sullivan: on how well you've prepared and what kind of day 799 00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:10,020 Susanna Sullivan: you're having. So when I train, I'm training with those 800 00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:11,910 Susanna Sullivan: things in mind that I want to make sure that 801 00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:15,719 Susanna Sullivan: I am leaving no stone unturned in terms of preparing 802 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:21,989 Susanna Sullivan: for just acclimatizing to the heat and making sure that we're 803 00:47:23,010 --> 00:47:29,520 Susanna Sullivan: going in mentally prepared for any kind of scenario. And 804 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,820 Susanna Sullivan: if that means that we find ourselves in striking position 805 00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:36,000 Susanna Sullivan: of a medal, being able to respond and not count 806 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,989 Susanna Sullivan: yourself out because I've been working really hard and training's 807 00:47:39,989 --> 00:47:45,930 Susanna Sullivan: going well. So yeah, I'm super excited for the opportunity 808 00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:52,080 Susanna Sullivan: because with every country only being able to send three 809 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:59,400 Susanna Sullivan: athletes, that actually is kind of an opportunity for just 810 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,010 Susanna Sullivan: looking at the rankings. There's quite a few Ethiopians and 811 00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:04,680 Susanna Sullivan: Kenyans that are ranked ahead of me on the world 812 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,140 Susanna Sullivan: rankings list, but they can only send three each. And 813 00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:10,770 Susanna Sullivan: so it does get you thinking, " Okay, so why not 814 00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:17,130 Susanna Sullivan: a medal." If you have a good day, the field 815 00:48:17,130 --> 00:48:17,850 Susanna Sullivan: is not- 816 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:20,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: Quite as deep as it might be in a Boston 817 00:48:20,730 --> 00:48:23,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: or in New York. Yeah, exactly. It makes sense. 818 00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:23,550 Susanna Sullivan: Right. 819 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,090 Becs Gentry: Yeah, absolutely. I'm so excited that you are all getting 820 00:48:30,090 --> 00:48:37,890 Becs Gentry: to actually go and run in the stadium in Japan with people being able to cheer you on because obviously 821 00:48:38,190 --> 00:48:42,360 Becs Gentry: when athletes were there for the games, it was fake 822 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,590 Becs Gentry: people in seats in COVID. And so now I think 823 00:48:47,310 --> 00:48:49,770 Becs Gentry: I read that the course was two laps of the 824 00:48:49,770 --> 00:48:51,719 Becs Gentry: stadium to start with, potentially. 825 00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:55,380 Susanna Sullivan: Oh, yeah. I think that's right. 826 00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:58,319 Becs Gentry: Like a hurrah, a couple of laps to see people, which is super cool. How does 827 00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:02,760 Becs Gentry: that make you feel of like, " Oh, wow, this was for the Olympics"? 828 00:49:02,910 --> 00:49:05,370 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, I think it's not going to really hit... I mean, 829 00:49:05,370 --> 00:49:09,270 Susanna Sullivan: we've looked at the thing like the Google Earth maps 830 00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:11,340 Susanna Sullivan: and things like that where you can go stand on 831 00:49:11,340 --> 00:49:15,480 Susanna Sullivan: the street corner, and I'm really appreciative to all the 832 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,780 Susanna Sullivan: folks who've kind of sent along data mapping the course 833 00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:23,640 Susanna Sullivan: and route maps that show elevation and things like that. 834 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,390 Susanna Sullivan: I definitely think that we are prepared with intel for 835 00:49:27,390 --> 00:49:30,540 Susanna Sullivan: what the course is going to be like, but my 836 00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:32,760 Susanna Sullivan: husband is a Marine officer and goes to Okinawa a 837 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,190 Susanna Sullivan: lot and has spent a bit of time in Tokyo. 838 00:49:35,489 --> 00:49:37,890 Susanna Sullivan: And he says, once you're on the ground in Japan, 839 00:49:37,890 --> 00:49:39,690 Susanna Sullivan: it's going to feel like you're on a different planet. 840 00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:48,120 Susanna Sullivan: So I'm super excited for the experience of just being 841 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,020 Susanna Sullivan: somewhere new, and I think it really is going to 842 00:49:52,020 --> 00:49:56,130 Susanna Sullivan: just hit me that like, " Wow, this is very, very cool." 843 00:49:56,820 --> 00:49:59,280 Becs Gentry: It's really, really cool. I've run in a lot of 844 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,170 Becs Gentry: places around the world and running in Tokyo was totally, 845 00:50:04,170 --> 00:50:07,650 Becs Gentry: just like your husband says, I was just like, " It's 846 00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:11,609 Becs Gentry: bizarre. It's so bizarre." And I stayed in the hotel 847 00:50:11,610 --> 00:50:18,090 Becs Gentry: right opposite the stadium and just the hills, the humidity, 848 00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:20,550 Becs Gentry: as you say, even just, you guys I'm sure will 849 00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:23,880 Becs Gentry: have your own food that's suitable for your training. But I mean, 850 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,319 Becs Gentry: I was just running the world majors races, so getting 851 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:34,170 Becs Gentry: used to different diets, different food, different everything was just 852 00:50:34,170 --> 00:50:38,430 Becs Gentry: so cool as well. I nerd out over the body, 853 00:50:38,430 --> 00:50:41,850 Becs Gentry: obviously in my profession, but how we react to things 854 00:50:41,850 --> 00:50:44,910 Becs Gentry: like that as well as the nerves that you're going to have, but 855 00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:47,460 Becs Gentry: oh, it's going to be a breeze of adventure all 856 00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:47,790 Becs Gentry: the way. 857 00:50:48,270 --> 00:50:49,980 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, I'm super excited. 858 00:50:51,330 --> 00:50:57,180 Becs Gentry: Yay. Okay. With looking ahead, obviously focus is right now 859 00:50:57,270 --> 00:51:04,260 Becs Gentry: world champs, but there is so much anticipation of 2028 LA Olympics. 860 00:51:05,489 --> 00:51:08,040 Becs Gentry: I know you're not probably putting too much out there, but 861 00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:11,370 Becs Gentry: is that on your radar? Are you thinking this is 862 00:51:11,370 --> 00:51:14,219 Becs Gentry: a goal for me in two years time? Two and a bit. 863 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,739 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I feel like I have 864 00:51:19,739 --> 00:51:23,969 Susanna Sullivan: this conversation occasionally with my husband that I'll see my 865 00:51:23,969 --> 00:51:28,230 Susanna Sullivan: name in something and I just like, " Oh wait, I 866 00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:32,730 Susanna Sullivan: did run really fast in Chicago and I really shouldn't 867 00:51:32,730 --> 00:51:41,100 Susanna Sullivan: be counting myself out for '28." So yeah, I'm super 868 00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:47,340 Susanna Sullivan: excited. I feel like there's still more to give. I mean, I 869 00:51:47,340 --> 00:51:52,950 Susanna Sullivan: feel like the 221 in Chicago, I feel like I learned 870 00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:56,040 Susanna Sullivan: a lot from it. I feel like running my own race 871 00:51:56,460 --> 00:51:59,340 Susanna Sullivan: was a huge thing there. I didn't actually realize that 872 00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:03,570 Susanna Sullivan: I was in the lead American spot until very, very 873 00:52:03,570 --> 00:52:06,450 Susanna Sullivan: late in the race, maybe a mile to ago. I started 874 00:52:06,450 --> 00:52:12,239 Susanna Sullivan: to have suspicions of it at about the halfway, because I 875 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,310 Susanna Sullivan: feel like I heard somebody say Top American, and I 876 00:52:14,310 --> 00:52:19,140 Susanna Sullivan: was like, " No, surely I must have missed somebody with 877 00:52:19,140 --> 00:52:22,350 Susanna Sullivan: all the chaos at the start, somebody must be still 878 00:52:22,350 --> 00:52:26,549 Susanna Sullivan: further ahead." But then with about a mile to go 879 00:52:26,550 --> 00:52:30,690 Susanna Sullivan: in Chicago, one of the motorcycles pulled up alongside me 880 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,040 Susanna Sullivan: and was yelling to other people lead American, and I 881 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:40,530 Susanna Sullivan: was like, " Oh. Oh, okay." And so I think I just learned a lot about you just 882 00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:43,319 Susanna Sullivan: prepare the best that you can and you run your 883 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,001 Susanna Sullivan: race and see where (inaudible) 884 00:52:47,001 --> 00:52:47,002 Becs Gentry: Ready you are. 885 00:52:47,002 --> 00:52:52,680 Susanna Sullivan: ... put you. Yeah. And so I mean, that was just such 886 00:52:53,730 --> 00:52:56,069 Susanna Sullivan: a big surprise for me, not the time. I just 887 00:52:56,070 --> 00:53:00,390 Susanna Sullivan: didn't think the time would put me in that place 888 00:53:00,660 --> 00:53:03,600 Susanna Sullivan: with all the talk before it about an American record 889 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,410 Susanna Sullivan: and everything I thought I could run. We really did 890 00:53:07,410 --> 00:53:14,430 Susanna Sullivan: think 221 high, 222 low was a realistic goal, but 891 00:53:14,430 --> 00:53:17,399 Susanna Sullivan: with all the talk about the American record, I thought, " 892 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:20,640 Susanna Sullivan: Okay, there's going to be three people that run 218, 219, 893 00:53:20,670 --> 00:53:24,600 Susanna Sullivan: 220." And we knew that my training had gone really 894 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,880 Susanna Sullivan: well, but we also knew that it was the first 895 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,210 Susanna Sullivan: time that I was going to have finished a marathon 896 00:53:30,270 --> 00:53:35,040 Susanna Sullivan: in a year or even attempted a marathon in a 897 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:42,660 Susanna Sullivan: year. So I just knew that there was potential, that things 898 00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:45,810 Susanna Sullivan: could go sideways even though preparations had gone really well. 899 00:53:46,170 --> 00:53:48,390 Susanna Sullivan: And so I think I learned a lot from that. 900 00:53:49,350 --> 00:53:52,350 Susanna Sullivan: I feel like training has gone well since then. I've 901 00:53:52,350 --> 00:53:55,950 Susanna Sullivan: been feeling good. I mean, like I was saying before, 902 00:53:55,950 --> 00:53:57,930 Susanna Sullivan: I just have so much trust in my coach, and 903 00:53:57,930 --> 00:54:02,819 Susanna Sullivan: I feel like we are continuing to progress, and I 904 00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:07,380 Susanna Sullivan: think our communication is really solid. And after every marathon 905 00:54:07,380 --> 00:54:12,060 Susanna Sullivan: we have a conversation, well and periodically throughout the cycle, 906 00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:15,060 Susanna Sullivan: just kind of what's going well, what could be improved 907 00:54:15,060 --> 00:54:19,290 Susanna Sullivan: upon. And so I feel like we still have plenty of ideas with regard 908 00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:23,190 Susanna Sullivan: to nutrition and hydration and getting more sleep, which is 909 00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:26,760 Susanna Sullivan: always a challenge in the school year. And so I 910 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,060 Susanna Sullivan: do feel like there's more to give, and so when 911 00:54:30,060 --> 00:54:32,370 Susanna Sullivan: I stop to think, " Okay, well if there's more to 912 00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:37,350 Susanna Sullivan: give, and you're already in this space in the American 913 00:54:38,430 --> 00:54:44,430 Susanna Sullivan: marathoning scene, yeah, 2028 should be a realistic goal." So 914 00:54:44,430 --> 00:54:46,170 Susanna Sullivan: we'll just see. I mean, so much can happen in 915 00:54:46,170 --> 00:54:55,140 Susanna Sullivan: three years, but yeah, definitely planning on going for it. 916 00:54:55,140 --> 00:54:57,210 Becs Gentry: Definitely out there. Sorry, go ahead. 917 00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:04,980 Susanna Sullivan: I've run a couple of flat fast courses recently, and 918 00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:08,370 Susanna Sullivan: so I'm excited for the challenge of running Tokyo. I 919 00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:12,930 Susanna Sullivan: think that the training that's been involved in running this, it's 920 00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:16,170 Susanna Sullivan: been different from what I've done the last couple of 921 00:55:16,170 --> 00:55:18,630 Susanna Sullivan: cycles, and that's just kind of an exciting prospect in 922 00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:21,150 Susanna Sullivan: terms of continuing to develop as an athlete, is that 923 00:55:21,330 --> 00:55:23,969 Susanna Sullivan: I am having to train a lot on hills, and 924 00:55:23,969 --> 00:55:28,920 Susanna Sullivan: I'm having to pay a lot more attention to nutrition 925 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,590 Susanna Sullivan: and hydration because like I was saying before, Brooks is 926 00:55:31,590 --> 00:55:33,480 Susanna Sullivan: putting a lot of energy into making sure that we 927 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,700 Susanna Sullivan: are prepared. And so we've been actually learning a lot about what I sweat 928 00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:41,969 Susanna Sullivan: out and how much I sweat, and that's been kind of 929 00:55:41,969 --> 00:55:42,810 Susanna Sullivan: surprising to me. 930 00:55:42,810 --> 00:55:43,050 Becs Gentry: So cool. 931 00:55:43,050 --> 00:55:46,440 Susanna Sullivan: And so that's definitely changed my understanding about what I should 932 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,360 Susanna Sullivan: be taking in along the course in terms of electrolytes 933 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,770 Susanna Sullivan: and carbohydrates, it's significantly higher than what I had been 934 00:55:55,770 --> 00:56:00,060 Susanna Sullivan: doing. And so we're starting to do the training involved 935 00:56:00,060 --> 00:56:02,640 Susanna Sullivan: with preparing in that regard. And so I just feel 936 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,350 Susanna Sullivan: like there's... Brooks has given me all these opportunities to 937 00:56:08,010 --> 00:56:13,590 Susanna Sullivan: kind of recognize what I need as an athlete, and 938 00:56:13,590 --> 00:56:18,660 Susanna Sullivan: so I'm excited to see what that yields. If I'm 939 00:56:19,260 --> 00:56:23,520 Susanna Sullivan: stronger on hydration, stronger nutrition, just being forced to run 940 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,380 Susanna Sullivan: a million hills to get ready for Tokyo. 941 00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:30,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's pretty interesting. Sweat analysis. I like that. So you're 942 00:56:30,180 --> 00:56:32,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: actually learning what's coming out of your body when you 943 00:56:32,310 --> 00:56:33,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: sweat, which makes a lot of sense. 944 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,930 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, apparently I'm a really salty sweater, which I never would've known because I'm 945 00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:40,110 Susanna Sullivan: not a crusty sweater. I've seen people have rings of 946 00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:40,770 Susanna Sullivan: salt on them. 947 00:56:40,770 --> 00:56:41,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, yeah. 948 00:56:42,989 --> 00:56:43,411 Becs Gentry: I'm with you. I did it as well. 949 00:56:43,410 --> 00:56:46,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: How would any of us know? Yeah, how would you know if you're a salty 950 00:56:46,650 --> 00:56:49,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: sweater or not? You only know your own sweat, so 951 00:56:49,469 --> 00:56:51,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's kind of good for somebody to tell you that. 952 00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:52,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's pretty interesting. 953 00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:53,969 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, it's been fascinating. 954 00:56:54,450 --> 00:56:57,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: Speaking of nutrition, can we talk about something much more 955 00:56:57,540 --> 00:57:00,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: important than the race in Tokyo, which is what are 956 00:57:00,570 --> 00:57:03,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: you going to eat in Japan? When I went to 957 00:57:03,330 --> 00:57:07,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: Japan, Becs, knows I was so focused on the food 958 00:57:07,620 --> 00:57:10,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: and what am I going eat? I mean, of course 959 00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:14,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: there's nutrition for the race. So I don't know, are you going to be looking 960 00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:17,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: for pasta carbs over there? Are you going to make 961 00:57:17,580 --> 00:57:21,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: the move to rice. Because rice, rice is fantastic and 962 00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:24,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: there's obviously so many opportunities. There's Ramen as well as 963 00:57:24,570 --> 00:57:28,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: another great carb option. What do you think, are there foods you're excited 964 00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:31,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: to eat when you're in Japan, both before and after 965 00:57:31,380 --> 00:57:31,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: the race? 966 00:57:32,670 --> 00:57:35,820 Susanna Sullivan: There are, I have been told that I absolutely must 967 00:57:35,820 --> 00:57:38,280 Susanna Sullivan: go to the fish market and that it's just an out 968 00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:42,510 Susanna Sullivan: of this world experience. So I think I'll probably save 969 00:57:42,510 --> 00:57:43,530 Susanna Sullivan: that for after the race. 970 00:57:43,530 --> 00:57:45,000 Becs Gentry: Yes, I would. 971 00:57:46,830 --> 00:57:49,320 Susanna Sullivan: So I'm allergic to shellfish, so I'm just in the 972 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,710 Susanna Sullivan: states, I just don't generally have a lot of sushi 973 00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:56,610 Susanna Sullivan: because I've just been kind of leery of cross contamination. I've also 974 00:57:56,610 --> 00:58:04,740 Susanna Sullivan: been told that the Japanese are a very conscientious society. 975 00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:06,811 Rob Simmelkjaer: They're very careful. Yeah, they're very careful about things. 976 00:58:06,811 --> 00:58:14,910 Susanna Sullivan: That shouldn't really be a concern. And so I think I will be having some sushi while I'm over there. Yeah, 977 00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:20,070 Susanna Sullivan: I've heard the food is fantastic. There will be kind 978 00:58:20,070 --> 00:58:22,530 Susanna Sullivan: of an American dining hall, so I suspect that they'll 979 00:58:22,530 --> 00:58:27,120 Susanna Sullivan: have a lot of pasta. But generally before any kind 980 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,800 Susanna Sullivan: of race, I tend to be pretty flexible about the 981 00:58:31,830 --> 00:58:37,470 Susanna Sullivan: carbohydrate source. I like potatoes, I like rice, and so 982 00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:39,840 Susanna Sullivan: I suspect I'll be having a lot of rice over there. 983 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,360 Susanna Sullivan: But yeah, I am excited to be a little more 984 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,320 Susanna Sullivan: adventurous on the back side of the race. Initially I 985 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,600 Susanna Sullivan: thought I would be heading back right after the race 986 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,060 Susanna Sullivan: to head back to school. And back to school night 987 00:58:51,060 --> 00:58:53,520 Susanna Sullivan: is the following Thursday, so I do have to be 988 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,070 Susanna Sullivan: back in Virginia by then. But I say I'm going to stay, 989 00:58:56,850 --> 00:58:59,100 Susanna Sullivan: I think two days after the race. And I know 990 00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:03,000 Susanna Sullivan: Brooks has some excursions planned for me and Jess and 991 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,810 Susanna Sullivan: CJ, because CJ is competing on the men's side. So 992 00:59:06,810 --> 00:59:10,260 Susanna Sullivan: Brooks has four of the six marathoners, and apparently we're going 993 00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:13,290 Susanna Sullivan: to go gallivanting around Tokyo after. 994 00:59:13,290 --> 00:59:13,560 Becs Gentry: Fantastic. 995 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: Don't sleep on the Ramen. Susanna, I don't know if you're a Ramen fan, but 996 00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:19,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: you've to get to a couple of good Ramen shops. 997 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,470 Becs Gentry: It doesn't even have to be good ones. I mean, 998 00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:23,340 Becs Gentry: good, hole in the wall. 999 00:59:23,340 --> 00:59:26,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah. The hole the walls spots in Tokyo that are just out 1000 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: of this world and are card sources, but- 1001 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,060 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah. We'll be out there far enough in advance too, that I 1002 00:59:33,060 --> 00:59:36,660 Susanna Sullivan: feel like the first day or two if I had 1003 00:59:36,660 --> 00:59:42,270 Susanna Sullivan: something that was a little adventurous. I mean Ramen isn't 1004 00:59:42,270 --> 00:59:45,630 Susanna Sullivan: that exotic, but something like that where probably I would 1005 00:59:45,630 --> 00:59:50,850 Susanna Sullivan: be fine, but I think I'll save the sushi and anything really 1006 00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:54,840 Susanna Sullivan: different that I don't have here that often, I'll save 1007 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,560 Susanna Sullivan: that for after the race. 1008 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, save the sea urchin for after the race. I 1009 00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: would recommend that. 1010 00:59:59,850 --> 01:00:00,270 Becs Gentry: Okay, Susanna- 1011 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,601 Rob Simmelkjaer: Or not at all, since you're allergic. Yeah. 1012 01:00:03,601 --> 01:00:07,680 Becs Gentry: ... we have something to ask for you, which is 1013 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,800 Becs Gentry: not something we normally do here on Set the Pace. 1014 01:00:11,340 --> 01:00:17,280 Becs Gentry: We don't normally get our guests to give advice personally, 1015 01:00:17,370 --> 01:00:22,140 Becs Gentry: but seen as you were the top American winner in 2024 1016 01:00:22,140 --> 01:00:28,800 Becs Gentry: at the Chicago Marathon. Wonderful Rob here has just today 1017 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,080 Becs Gentry: on the top of the show, announced that he is 1018 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,451 Becs Gentry: going to be running the Chicago marathon this October. 1019 01:00:33,450 --> 01:00:33,452 Susanna Sullivan: Nice. 1020 01:00:33,451 --> 01:00:39,870 Becs Gentry: Yay, Rob. So what advice have you got for Rob 1021 01:00:40,350 --> 01:00:45,840 Becs Gentry: for his first ever Chicago marathon? And yes, you should 1022 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,150 Becs Gentry: be scared he's coming for your 221 56. 1023 01:00:50,310 --> 01:00:53,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'd be thrilled at 321 Susanna, so don't worry. Yeah. 1024 01:00:55,830 --> 01:01:02,521 Susanna Sullivan: That's tricky. Wow, you've run New York, I would assume? 1025 01:01:02,521 --> 01:01:02,522 Rob Simmelkjaer: A couple of times, yes. 1026 01:01:02,521 --> 01:01:10,500 Susanna Sullivan: I mean, I have not yet run the New York City Marathon. 1027 01:01:10,740 --> 01:01:11,701 Rob Simmelkjaer: We know we're paying attention. 1028 01:01:11,701 --> 01:01:15,451 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, it's on my bucket list. 1029 01:01:15,451 --> 01:01:15,811 Rob Simmelkjaer: Good. That's good to know. 1030 01:01:15,870 --> 01:01:23,700 Susanna Sullivan: But I feel like the energy in Chicago just standing 1031 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,180 Susanna Sullivan: at the starting line and looking around which is just 1032 01:01:28,380 --> 01:01:33,420 Susanna Sullivan: a shot of adrenaline. So I would just say, just 1033 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,690 Susanna Sullivan: soak up the crowds. I feel like the first couple 1034 01:01:36,690 --> 01:01:38,730 Susanna Sullivan: of miles, I didn't look at my watch and I've 1035 01:01:38,730 --> 01:01:41,669 Susanna Sullivan: heard that if I had, I mean I was kind 1036 01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:43,710 Susanna Sullivan: of looking at it, but then I was like, "No, that can't 1037 01:01:43,710 --> 01:01:48,630 Susanna Sullivan: be right." So I would say don't bother, just kind of 1038 01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:52,170 Susanna Sullivan: trust your trust yourself. 1039 01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:54,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: Is that just because the watches aren't accurate there with the tall buildings 1040 01:01:54,689 --> 01:01:54,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: and everything? 1041 01:01:54,990 --> 01:01:58,050 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah. You go on a tunnel and then there's just a lot of 1042 01:01:58,050 --> 01:02:04,920 Susanna Sullivan: taller buildings. I mean, not unlike New York, but yeah, 1043 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:11,880 Susanna Sullivan: I would say just maybe soak up the energy of the 1044 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,610 Susanna Sullivan: crowd but also recognize that first 5K that it's so, 1045 01:02:15,210 --> 01:02:17,520 Susanna Sullivan: so easy to go out too fast. 1046 01:02:19,650 --> 01:02:20,821 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's a little downhill at the start. Is that it? 1047 01:02:20,821 --> 01:02:26,430 Susanna Sullivan: Yeah, I think so. Definitely when you head through the tunnel right at 1048 01:02:26,430 --> 01:02:30,060 Susanna Sullivan: the beginning, it's definitely downhill and I feel like that's 1049 01:02:30,060 --> 01:02:34,350 Susanna Sullivan: probably true for a lot of the majors, but I 1050 01:02:34,350 --> 01:02:38,190 Susanna Sullivan: feel like it's particularly important there because it is so 1051 01:02:39,150 --> 01:02:45,420 Susanna Sullivan: fast and flat that you just want to be comfortable, 1052 01:02:45,810 --> 01:02:49,110 Susanna Sullivan: not comfortable, but you have legs under you the last 1053 01:02:51,660 --> 01:02:55,860 Susanna Sullivan: 10K or so. So I think just being cautious early on. I feel like in 1054 01:02:55,860 --> 01:02:58,140 Susanna Sullivan: New York I've heard, and I don't know this from 1055 01:02:58,140 --> 01:03:03,750 Susanna Sullivan: experience, but I feel like everybody cautions people to remember that 1056 01:03:03,810 --> 01:03:06,419 Susanna Sullivan: the hills in Central Park will be there for you 1057 01:03:06,420 --> 01:03:08,400 Susanna Sullivan: and you're going to place under you. But I feel 1058 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,090 Susanna Sullivan: like nobody really talks about that in Chicago because there 1059 01:03:12,090 --> 01:03:15,120 Susanna Sullivan: isn't an element like that where you're just, " Something is 1060 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:20,070 Susanna Sullivan: looming and if you make a mistake early, you will 1061 01:03:20,070 --> 01:03:22,710 Susanna Sullivan: absolutely pay." I feel like no one talks about that 1062 01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:26,250 Susanna Sullivan: in Chicago because there isn't a feature like that. But I think it's 1063 01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:28,050 Susanna Sullivan: still important what with it being 26.22 miles. 1064 01:03:28,050 --> 01:03:31,919 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's still 26.22 months miles. That's the thing, don't get 1065 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: too excited in mile four or five. Yeah, that's good. 1066 01:03:35,820 --> 01:03:36,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's good advice. 1067 01:03:36,090 --> 01:03:36,510 Susanna Sullivan: That's great advice. 1068 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: I appreciate that. I'm so excited about it, Susanna, it's 1069 01:03:39,810 --> 01:03:44,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: a great city. It's such amazing energy. The architecture in 1070 01:03:44,580 --> 01:03:48,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: Chicago is so beautiful. You see so many beautiful buildings when 1071 01:03:48,570 --> 01:03:53,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're walking around that city. So I'm excited and I 1072 01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:56,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: will eagerly follow in your footsteps. You had such a 1073 01:03:56,700 --> 01:03:59,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: great day there, so I'm hoping for a good day 1074 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: for me too. Hopefully it'll be one I'll remember as I know you've 1075 01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:07,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: remembered your race. Well, it's been great talking to you 1076 01:04:07,620 --> 01:04:10,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: and we wish you all the luck as you get 1077 01:04:10,710 --> 01:04:13,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: ready for Tokyo this summer. It's going to be incredible 1078 01:04:13,830 --> 01:04:17,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: to watch you there carrying the Stars and Stripes for 1079 01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:19,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: us and have a great, great day over there. And 1080 01:04:19,890 --> 01:04:22,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: then let us know when you're ready to come to 1081 01:04:22,980 --> 01:04:27,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York to tackle the TCS New York City Marathon. I'm guessing maybe not 1082 01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:30,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: this year, but you never know. People have done it. 1083 01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:32,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: People do all kinds of things so you never know, 1084 01:04:32,730 --> 01:04:37,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: but we definitely eagerly await your debut at the New York City Marathon, 1085 01:04:37,590 --> 01:04:38,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: one of these years. 1086 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,120 Susanna Sullivan: Thank you so much. 1087 01:04:53,010 --> 01:04:56,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Roadrunners is a nonprofit organization with a vision 1088 01:04:56,490 --> 01:05:00,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: to build healthier lives and stronger communities through the transformative 1089 01:05:00,330 --> 01:05:03,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: power of running. The support of members and donors like 1090 01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:07,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: you helps us achieve our mission to transform the health 1091 01:05:07,110 --> 01:05:10,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: and well- being of our communities through inclusive and accessible 1092 01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:15,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: running experiences, empowering all to achieve their potential. Learn more 1093 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:22,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: and contribute at nyrr. org/ donate. In 2024, Udai Jariwala ran his 1094 01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:26,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: first marathon ever at the age of 75, just a 1095 01:05:26,130 --> 01:05:29,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: few years after moving from Hillsborough, New Jersey to New 1096 01:05:29,580 --> 01:05:32,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: York City and joining the November project. Since that time, 1097 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: Udai has become a familiar face in the New York City 1098 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:40,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: running community, participating in Roadrunners races despite facing significant setbacks 1099 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:46,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: including severe knee arthritis and two knee replacement surgeries. He 1100 01:05:46,110 --> 01:05:49,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: completed his first race, the Kurt Steiner Cross Country 5K 1101 01:05:50,070 --> 01:05:53,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: back in 2019. And even after a right knee replacement 1102 01:05:53,970 --> 01:05:57,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: in 2021 and then a partial left knee replacement in 1103 01:05:57,300 --> 01:06:01,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: 2023, he returned each time to group training determined to 1104 01:06:01,770 --> 01:06:05,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: stay active. Now 76 years old, Udai is a proud 1105 01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:10,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: team for kids marathon finisher with 32 Roadrunners races under 1106 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: his belt, including seven 10Ks, six half- marathons, and his 1107 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:20,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: first marathon in 2024, which he calls the best experience 1108 01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:21,419 Rob Simmelkjaer: of his life. 1109 01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:26,100 Speaker 5: Thanks, Rob. Wow, Udai, welcome to the Set the Pace 1110 01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:28,620 Speaker 5: podcast. It's great to have you. How are you doing today? 1111 01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:30,870 Udai Jariwala: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. 1112 01:06:31,860 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 5: Great. What was going through your mind at the start 1113 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,070 Speaker 5: of your first marathon last year, knowing you have already 1114 01:06:38,070 --> 01:06:40,980 Speaker 5: overcome so much just to get to the starting line? 1115 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:51,330 Udai Jariwala: Oh, a lot of things, but mainly it was to, 1116 01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:55,980 Udai Jariwala: I was telling myself the goal is to finish. This 1117 01:06:55,980 --> 01:06:58,740 Udai Jariwala: is your first marathon and the goal is to finish. 1118 01:06:59,130 --> 01:07:03,870 Udai Jariwala: Indeed, just getting to the start line itself was an 1119 01:07:03,870 --> 01:07:10,200 Udai Jariwala: achievement because the 16, 18 weeks of training itself to prepare 1120 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,800 Udai Jariwala: for the marathon is the marathon and then running the 1121 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,790 Udai Jariwala: marathon was just to get the medal in across the finish 1122 01:07:17,790 --> 01:07:23,400 Udai Jariwala: line. So yes, I was just telling myself, you have your 1123 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:31,020 Udai Jariwala: plan, the goal is to finish, stay comfortable and just 1124 01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:31,890 Udai Jariwala: go slow. 1125 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,090 Speaker 5: Well, you did get to that finish, but at the age 1126 01:07:36,090 --> 01:07:40,410 Speaker 5: of 75. What was that finish line? Some of us 1127 01:07:40,410 --> 01:07:42,300 Speaker 5: started my do I was 27 when I did my 1128 01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:44,610 Speaker 5: first marathon, but for youth to be an example for 1129 01:07:44,610 --> 01:07:48,090 Speaker 5: people getting to that finish line and run your personal best 1130 01:07:48,090 --> 01:07:51,210 Speaker 5: basically as long as you get to the finish line, that's a personal best. What was that 1131 01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:52,230 Speaker 5: moment for you? 1132 01:07:52,890 --> 01:08:01,860 Udai Jariwala: Oh, unbelievable. I was crying. I cannot forget that moment. 1133 01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:05,310 Udai Jariwala: It was just everything came out. 1134 01:08:08,910 --> 01:08:09,180 Speaker 5: It was the emotion. 1135 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,150 Udai Jariwala: Yeah, emotions just take over me. 1136 01:08:14,790 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 5: Well, you fought through 26. 2 miles and to get to 1137 01:08:17,460 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 5: that finish line was magical and we're so proud of 1138 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:23,939 Speaker 5: you. But your first NYR was the Kurt Steiner Cross 1139 01:08:23,939 --> 01:08:27,301 Speaker 5: Country. What did that race teach you about running? 1140 01:08:27,301 --> 01:08:35,580 Udai Jariwala: I really wanted to. I had just started running and wanted to run 1141 01:08:35,580 --> 01:08:40,770 Udai Jariwala: the NY. I joined NYRR membership, wanted to run a race, so 1142 01:08:40,770 --> 01:08:43,080 Udai Jariwala: I went on the site, signed up for this Kurt 1143 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,960 Udai Jariwala: Steiner I saw, 5K, which is a good start, I 1144 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,250 Udai Jariwala: said. Then I realized that, " Oh, this is a cross 1145 01:08:50,250 --> 01:08:57,930 Udai Jariwala: country in Portland and Portland Park, so it's different. Okay." So anyway, I 1146 01:08:57,930 --> 01:09:01,110 Udai Jariwala: had no idea. We start on the grass and we 1147 01:09:01,110 --> 01:09:04,439 Udai Jariwala: run and being the first race, I had no clue 1148 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,580 Udai Jariwala: about pacing or anything. When everybody started running, I started 1149 01:09:08,580 --> 01:09:14,160 Udai Jariwala: running. And by the end of the grassy field even 1150 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:19,769 Udai Jariwala: before I got on the trail, I was pooped basically, 1151 01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:22,650 Udai Jariwala: I was tired. I said, " This is not going to 1152 01:09:22,650 --> 01:09:25,890 Udai Jariwala: work." I took a breather, started walking a little bit. 1153 01:09:26,130 --> 01:09:29,820 Udai Jariwala: Once I got my breath under control, I finished the 1154 01:09:29,820 --> 01:09:35,250 Udai Jariwala: race very well and there is a kicker at the end of 1155 01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:40,260 Udai Jariwala: finish. They stopped me. They said, " Wait, wait, wait." I said, " 1156 01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:44,070 Udai Jariwala: What happened?" They said, " You are first in your age group." 1157 01:09:44,580 --> 01:09:49,259 Udai Jariwala: I said, " How come?" So the lessons basically I learned 1158 01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:54,030 Udai Jariwala: was run your own race, run at your own pace 1159 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,030 Udai Jariwala: and basically start slow, finish strong. 1160 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 5: Sounds perfect. And no matter what age, what the experience 1161 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,099 Speaker 5: you have getting into the (inaudible) and healthy and finish strong is 1162 01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:09,060 Speaker 5: amazing. And you did that. How did joining the November 1163 01:10:09,060 --> 01:10:13,469 Speaker 5: project and the NYRR group training change your approach to 1164 01:10:13,470 --> 01:10:15,750 Speaker 5: running or even life in New York? 1165 01:10:18,060 --> 01:10:25,680 Udai Jariwala: November project is a free fitness group and they focus mainly 1166 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,790 Udai Jariwala: on the strength training, body weight exercise. So when I 1167 01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:36,720 Udai Jariwala: started with them, I learned about NYRR also and I 1168 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,090 Udai Jariwala: got into running because a lot of people in NP, 1169 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:48,660 Udai Jariwala: November project ran races. So at that point I did 1170 01:10:48,660 --> 01:10:53,519 Udai Jariwala: not understand the connection between the strength training and the running. 1171 01:10:54,990 --> 01:11:01,019 Udai Jariwala: I was just doing the workout with them and once 1172 01:11:01,260 --> 01:11:06,660 Udai Jariwala: I joined the NYRR group training, I learned the importance 1173 01:11:06,660 --> 01:11:13,228 Udai Jariwala: of warm up, cool down, I had some structured training 1174 01:11:13,229 --> 01:11:19,290 Udai Jariwala: and running, how to improve running form and running by 1175 01:11:19,410 --> 01:11:26,130 Udai Jariwala: RPE rate of perceived exertion. And that's what I like. I 1176 01:11:26,130 --> 01:11:31,530 Udai Jariwala: run by feel, how I'm feeling. And the speed work 1177 01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:36,540 Udai Jariwala: and the hill workouts, I could not have done without 1178 01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:42,089 Udai Jariwala: joining the NYRR group training. And of course the group support 1179 01:11:42,090 --> 01:11:46,650 Udai Jariwala: that we have in NYRR training, so both of them 1180 01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:52,110 Udai Jariwala: and November project and NYRR, they have become sort of integral 1181 01:11:52,110 --> 01:11:55,140 Udai Jariwala: part of my life in New York City. I mean 1182 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,270 Udai Jariwala: that's what I look forward to every day. 1183 01:11:58,740 --> 01:12:01,590 Speaker 5: Absolutely. The New Yorker runners do an amazing job not 1184 01:12:01,590 --> 01:12:04,140 Speaker 5: only on race day, but getting you running the sideline healthy 1185 01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:04,830 Speaker 5: and strong. 1186 01:12:04,860 --> 01:12:05,580 Udai Jariwala: Absolutely. 1187 01:12:06,510 --> 01:12:10,349 Speaker 5: Looking back now at your 32 races, is there one 1188 01:12:10,350 --> 01:12:14,189 Speaker 5: that stands out, the toughest or the most memorable and 1189 01:12:14,189 --> 01:12:16,500 Speaker 5: what did you take away from that? 1190 01:12:19,890 --> 01:12:23,970 Udai Jariwala: The toughest and the most memorable. I will go most 1191 01:12:23,970 --> 01:12:32,460 Udai Jariwala: memorable first because undoubtedly that is the New York City Marathon. I mean it 1192 01:12:32,460 --> 01:12:37,590 Udai Jariwala: will always remain as my most memorable race. No doubt. 1193 01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:43,500 Udai Jariwala: The toughest one. I would say this was prior to 1194 01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:49,139 Udai Jariwala: my knee replacements, I was running all the races with 1195 01:12:49,140 --> 01:12:51,900 Udai Jariwala: a lot of pain in my knee, but I just 1196 01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:55,380 Udai Jariwala: wanted to get it done and any one of those 1197 01:12:55,380 --> 01:13:00,150 Udai Jariwala: races that I ran prior to my surgery were tough 1198 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,200 Udai Jariwala: in itself. Yeah. 1199 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,090 Speaker 5: Absolutely. And I can also relate to my first memorable 1200 01:13:06,090 --> 01:13:08,910 Speaker 5: one was a New York City Marathon in 2002. What to 1201 01:13:08,910 --> 01:13:11,639 Speaker 5: do, what not to do. It sticks to like it was yesterday, 1202 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,790 Speaker 5: still there. The first marathon is always memorable. What's the 1203 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:19,410 Speaker 5: most unexpected thing that you have learned about yourself or 1204 01:13:19,410 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 5: about running since you started this journey in your seventies? 1205 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:32,490 Udai Jariwala: About myself, I learned that I can do hard things 1206 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:39,090 Udai Jariwala: even if I started so late in my life running. 1207 01:13:39,090 --> 01:13:43,229 Udai Jariwala: I wish I had started earlier, but it's never too 1208 01:13:43,229 --> 01:13:51,420 Udai Jariwala: late. And as far as running what I learned that 1209 01:13:52,979 --> 01:13:59,310 Udai Jariwala: what was unexpected was that running slow makes you run 1210 01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:06,060 Udai Jariwala: faster. And really that was so unexpected, but so true is 1211 01:14:06,060 --> 01:14:12,599 Udai Jariwala: that finally I realized that running slow builds my endurance 1212 01:14:12,990 --> 01:14:15,870 Udai Jariwala: and once I build my endurance, it gives me the 1213 01:14:15,870 --> 01:14:19,559 Udai Jariwala: opportunity to run faster. And that's how I have slowly, 1214 01:14:20,820 --> 01:14:28,170 Udai Jariwala: gradually and really I have become faster over over time. It 1215 01:14:28,170 --> 01:14:31,890 Udai Jariwala: took long time, but I can see the improvement in 1216 01:14:31,890 --> 01:14:37,500 Udai Jariwala: my... so that was something unexpected when people say running 1217 01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:38,970 Udai Jariwala: slow makes you run faster. 1218 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,560 Speaker 5: I can agree with that because I always tell people, 1219 01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 5: my athlete, that you can build stamina and when you 1220 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,740 Speaker 5: have stamina you could turn into speed, but you can't turn 1221 01:14:49,740 --> 01:14:55,020 Speaker 5: speed into stamina. But what advice would you have for 1222 01:14:55,020 --> 01:14:59,430 Speaker 5: those people that are contemplating running is I can't do, 1223 01:14:59,430 --> 01:15:02,790 Speaker 5: it's not for me, but people think the misperception is, 1224 01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:05,910 Speaker 5: people think you have to sprint the whole way, but 1225 01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:09,210 Speaker 5: as we just heard you, run slow, get to the finish line 1226 01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:11,490 Speaker 5: and start building up. But what advice would you give the 1227 01:15:11,490 --> 01:15:13,470 Speaker 5: people that are on the fence of, " Should I, should I 1228 01:15:13,470 --> 01:15:15,929 Speaker 5: not?" And especially when you start in your seventies. 1229 01:15:16,410 --> 01:15:19,139 Udai Jariwala: One more thing I would like to say unexpected that 1230 01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:23,580 Udai Jariwala: I realized that running could be so much fun. I 1231 01:15:23,580 --> 01:15:26,700 Udai Jariwala: had not realized until now that it could be so 1232 01:15:26,700 --> 01:15:31,080 Udai Jariwala: much fun. I find so much joy and peace when 1233 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:36,630 Udai Jariwala: I run. And as I said earlier, I wish I 1234 01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:41,370 Udai Jariwala: had started earlier in my life, but I'm okay with 1235 01:15:41,370 --> 01:15:45,330 Udai Jariwala: it. I enjoy it now and I will continue to enjoy it. 1236 01:15:46,140 --> 01:15:48,809 Speaker 5: You savor in every mile, keep doing what you're doing 1237 01:15:48,810 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 5: and you'll be fine. It's great. So thank you for being on 1238 01:15:52,650 --> 01:15:55,380 Speaker 5: the podcast and looking forward to seeing you on the road. 1239 01:15:55,890 --> 01:15:57,420 Udai Jariwala: Well, thank you for having me. 1240 01:15:58,050 --> 01:16:00,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: Thank you so much for joining us, Udai, and for being 1241 01:16:00,689 --> 01:16:03,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: a member of New York Roadrunners. Now it's time for 1242 01:16:03,780 --> 01:16:05,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: today's Med Minutes. 1243 01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:09,750 Speaker 5: Vacationing. When you go on vacation doesn't mean you need to stop 1244 01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:14,219 Speaker 5: running. It just means to adjust and your mindset. Think about 1245 01:16:14,220 --> 01:16:18,450 Speaker 5: the maintenance, not the mileage. 20 to 30 minutes every other day 1246 01:16:18,450 --> 01:16:22,769 Speaker 5: is enough to keep your rhythm going. Explore new route, 1247 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,830 Speaker 5: run without a watch. I like to have a watch, but sometimes 1248 01:16:25,830 --> 01:16:29,130 Speaker 5: ignore the pace you're just going on for having fun 1249 01:16:29,130 --> 01:16:32,670 Speaker 5: and find a local group. Sometimes when you're on vacation, 1250 01:16:32,670 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 5: you're going to run into somebody and just ask them 1251 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,769 Speaker 5: what they're training for and go a mile with them 1252 01:16:37,770 --> 01:16:41,070 Speaker 5: or teams with them. And I've done that myself when 1253 01:16:41,070 --> 01:16:43,799 Speaker 5: I'm running Hawaii and be able to just enjoy the 1254 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,549 Speaker 5: camaraderie because sometimes I tell them, "Hey, can you take a picture of me just for 1255 01:16:47,550 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 5: social media?" And then when you come back they want 1256 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 5: to start running with you because they Googled you and 1257 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,679 Speaker 5: things like that. But effort is important when you are on a 1258 01:16:55,680 --> 01:17:01,170 Speaker 5: vacation, progressive run. Think about quality workout instead of quantity. 1259 01:17:01,229 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 5: Just be able to put a little run in is 1260 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,060 Speaker 5: important. Not to worry about I have to run seven 1261 01:17:06,060 --> 01:17:08,820 Speaker 5: miles or eight miles. Just think about just getting a 1262 01:17:08,820 --> 01:17:11,549 Speaker 5: good quality in and spend quality time with your family. 1263 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,820 Speaker 5: And if you have to skip a day or so, 1264 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,420 Speaker 5: not a problem because rest is equally as important. At 1265 01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:19,950 Speaker 5: the end of the day, you are still on vacation. 1266 01:17:20,430 --> 01:17:22,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well that does it for another episode of Set the 1267 01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:26,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace. I want to thank our great guest today, Susanna Sullivan 1268 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:30,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: and Udai Jariwala. And one more thank you for today's show, 1269 01:17:30,930 --> 01:17:35,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: our terrific audio engineer, producer, editor, the man who has 1270 01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:38,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: made Set the Pace as good as it can possibly 1271 01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:41,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: be given the hosts over the last couple of years. 1272 01:17:41,130 --> 01:17:45,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: Lou Pellegrino, today is his last day working on the show. 1273 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: Lou has been a huge part of making this show what 1274 01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:51,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: it has been. When we were first starting Set the 1275 01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:54,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace, we really didn't quite know really what we were 1276 01:17:54,810 --> 01:17:57,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: doing at all in fact. We really needed help in 1277 01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: terms of getting this show set up. That great open 1278 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: that you hear on Set the Pace, all the things 1279 01:18:04,860 --> 01:18:07,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: that have made this hopefully a fun listen for all 1280 01:18:07,050 --> 01:18:09,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: of you out there, Lou's been a huge part of 1281 01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:11,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: making all of that happen and we cannot thank Lou 1282 01:18:11,610 --> 01:18:14,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: enough for his tremendous work on Set the Pace. We're 1283 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to miss him. He's been awesome. So, Lou, thank 1284 01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:19,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: you. Happy trails. I know we'll see you down the 1285 01:18:19,650 --> 01:18:22,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: road, but you've been a huge part of Set the 1286 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace and we all thank you from New York Roadrunners. 1287 01:18:25,020 --> 01:18:27,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right folks, well I hope you have a great 1288 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: week. Enjoy the miles. We'll see you next week.