1 00:00:00,210 --> 00:00:03,210 Speaker 1: New York Road Runners is a non- profit organization with 2 00:00:03,210 --> 00:00:06,570 Speaker 1: a vision to build healthier lives and stronger communities through 3 00:00:06,570 --> 00:00:10,230 Speaker 1: the transformative power of running. The support of members and 4 00:00:10,230 --> 00:00:13,860 Speaker 1: donors like you helps us achieve our mission to transform 5 00:00:13,860 --> 00:00:17,130 Speaker 1: the health and well- being of our communities through inclusive 6 00:00:17,130 --> 00:00:21,390 Speaker 1: and accessible running experiences, empowering all to achieve their potential. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,950 Speaker 1: Learn more and contribute at nyrr. org/ donate. 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,409 Speaker 2: Thank you, New York. Today, we're reminded of the power 9 00:00:34,409 --> 00:00:39,270 Speaker 2: of community and the power of coming together, athletes, on 10 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: your mark. 11 00:00:41,970 --> 00:00:45,540 Speaker 3: The first woman to finish for the second straight year, 12 00:00:45,540 --> 00:00:49,140 Speaker 3: here in the New York City Marathon, is Miki Gorman, a smiling 13 00:00:49,140 --> 00:00:54,002 Speaker 3: Miki Gorman. And why not? 2: 29:30 the time for (inaudible) . 14 00:00:53,910 --> 00:00:56,550 Speaker 4: Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes 15 00:00:56,550 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: to the line. Pointing to his chest, pointed to the 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: USA he so proudly wears across his chest, a great 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: day for Meb Keflezighi. 18 00:01:10,470 --> 00:01:13,740 Becs Gentry: Welcome to Set the Pace, the official podcast of New 19 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:18,209 Becs Gentry: York Road Runners, presented by Peloton. And today, I am 20 00:01:18,209 --> 00:01:21,240 Becs Gentry: your host, I'm Becs Gentry. Thank you so much for 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,140 Becs Gentry: joining us, we have a really, really exciting guest on 22 00:01:25,170 --> 00:01:29,580 Becs Gentry: today's session. But before that, we have a lot to 23 00:01:29,580 --> 00:01:33,149 Becs Gentry: talk about, about this past weekend. Now, Rob cannot be 24 00:01:33,150 --> 00:01:36,660 Becs Gentry: here today, he is in the air, so I'm just 25 00:01:36,660 --> 00:01:39,119 Becs Gentry: going to banter amongst myself. You know that I'm really 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,630 Becs Gentry: good at doing that, especially when it comes to running, 27 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:47,039 Becs Gentry: and especially when it comes to records being shattered. This 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,090 Becs Gentry: past weekend it was a 2025 Aramco Houston Half Marathon, 29 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:56,850 Becs Gentry: and those records were broken by two very familiar faces 30 00:01:56,850 --> 00:02:00,240 Becs Gentry: to New York Road Runners. On the women's side, we 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,740 Becs Gentry: had Weini Kelati, she broke her own American record, coming in 32 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:12,179 Becs Gentry: at 1: 06:09 at the Aramco- Houston Half Marathon. Unbelievable. 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,989 Becs Gentry: Now, she was a second place woman, finishing just four 34 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:20,790 Becs Gentry: seconds behind the winner who got a 1: 06:05, congratulations 35 00:02:20,790 --> 00:02:26,010 Becs Gentry: to Senayet, that was such a stellar performance. Now, on the 36 00:02:26,010 --> 00:02:29,820 Becs Gentry: men's side, someone we know and love, and have had many 37 00:02:29,820 --> 00:02:35,280 Becs Gentry: New York Road Runners races, our lovely, Conner Mantz. He has 38 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Becs Gentry: been a guest on this show, so if you want to 39 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,570 Becs Gentry: go back and listen to the episode, I highly recommend 40 00:02:39,570 --> 00:02:44,160 Becs Gentry: it, but he came in at 59:17 at the half marathon, and 41 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,710 Becs Gentry: he broke an 18- year- old American record set by 42 00:02:49,950 --> 00:02:55,380 Becs Gentry: Ryan Hall. Isn't that unbelievable? Wow. And it was a 43 00:02:55,380 --> 00:02:57,150 Becs Gentry: photo finish, by the way, you should check out all 44 00:02:57,150 --> 00:02:59,638 Becs Gentry: of the photos of that, because he was actually second 45 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,380 Becs Gentry: place with Ethiopia's Addisu Gobena. So, go and have a look 46 00:03:04,380 --> 00:03:09,630 Becs Gentry: at that past weekend, Houston, fun. Now, coming up, the 47 00:03:09,630 --> 00:03:14,280 Becs Gentry: first big half marathon for New York Road Runners is 48 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,669 Becs Gentry: happening this Sunday, the 26th of January. It is the 49 00:03:17,669 --> 00:03:22,139 Becs Gentry: New York Road Runners, Fred Lebow Half Marathon, two loops 50 00:03:22,139 --> 00:03:24,720 Becs Gentry: within the park. You go up Harlem Hill three times 51 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,549 Becs Gentry: people. Okay? So, get those legs ready to power. I 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,460 Becs Gentry: wish I was running it, I was actually supposed to 53 00:03:32,460 --> 00:03:36,570 Becs Gentry: be running it, but forgot that I'm solo parenting. So, 54 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,059 Becs Gentry: make sure you look out for a few familiar faces 55 00:03:39,060 --> 00:03:43,080 Becs Gentry: from the Peloton instructor crew, towing the line, and coming 56 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,380 Becs Gentry: over the finish this weekend. So, good luck to everybody, 57 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:48,630 Becs Gentry: getting out there, wrap up warm, it's going to be 58 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:51,120 Becs Gentry: chilly, but you'll be nice and warm by the finish. 59 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:55,890 Becs Gentry: Today's guest will be Randi Zuckerberg. You may know her 60 00:03:55,890 --> 00:03:59,820 Becs Gentry: as a dedicated entrepreneur and best- selling author, but today 61 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,720 Becs Gentry: we are diving into an entirely different side of Randi, 62 00:04:04,170 --> 00:04:09,180 Becs Gentry: her journey as a marathoner and ultra marathoner. Randi went 63 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:13,170 Becs Gentry: from completing her first 10K, the MasterCard New York Mini 64 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:19,620 Becs Gentry: 10K in 2023, to signing up for a jaw- dropping 250- mile 65 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,250 Becs Gentry: trail race in less than two years. That is an 66 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,710 Becs Gentry: absolutely meteoric transformation, and I cannot wait to dive into 67 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:33,029 Becs Gentry: how it all happened with her shortly. And like Randi, 68 00:04:33,089 --> 00:04:37,050 Becs Gentry: today's featured member, Kurt Farrell, is both dedicated to his 69 00:04:37,050 --> 00:04:40,830 Becs Gentry: career, Kurt, by the way, is a neuroscientist, but he's 70 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:44,730 Becs Gentry: also dedicated to his newly discovered love of running. Kurt's 71 00:04:44,730 --> 00:04:49,110 Becs Gentry: first race was Gretes Gallop in 2022, and since then, Kurt 72 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:51,960 Becs Gentry: has balanced his work in the lab with road races 73 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,469 Becs Gentry: that span every distance, from the mile to the marathon. 74 00:04:55,950 --> 00:05:00,240 Becs Gentry: So, stay tuned for both of those incredible conversations. And 75 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,020 Becs Gentry: as the first 2025 marathon majors creep closer, and closer, 76 00:05:04,380 --> 00:05:06,570 Becs Gentry: Meb is here to give us tips on the best 77 00:05:06,570 --> 00:05:09,750 Becs Gentry: ways to adapt to the weather during your winter training. 78 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,500 Becs Gentry: So, stay tuned for the great Meb Keflezighi. Ready to 79 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,200 Becs Gentry: level up your running? With the Peloton Tread and Tread+, 80 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:20,610 Becs Gentry: you can challenge yourself anytime, anywhere. Whether you're building strength 81 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Becs Gentry: or working on speed, Peloton has a class for every 82 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,500 Becs Gentry: goal, from five to 120 minute workouts. With muscle building 83 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:32,460 Becs Gentry: classes and flexible training options, you'll have everything you need 84 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,520 Becs Gentry: to crush your next race, and then recover from it. 85 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,870 Becs Gentry: All access membership separate. Find your push, find your power, 86 00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:46,860 Becs Gentry: at onepeloton. com/ race- training. Peloton, the official digital fitness 87 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:51,000 Becs Gentry: partner for New York Road Runners. So, today I am 88 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,850 Becs Gentry: beyond thrilled to welcome our guest, Randi Zuckerberg. Yep, I'm 89 00:05:56,850 --> 00:05:58,979 Becs Gentry: going to leave a pause there because if you know 90 00:05:58,980 --> 00:06:04,440 Becs Gentry: her, you know this powerful, yet tiny female, is one 91 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,159 Becs Gentry: who is going to bring us some fabulous running stories, and 92 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Becs Gentry: more. As some background, in the last few years, Randi 93 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,750 Becs Gentry: has taken on marathons, 50 mile trail races, 24 hour 94 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:19,770 Becs Gentry: runs, and all of this while balancing her role as a 95 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:22,380 Becs Gentry: mother of three, a leader in the tech and media 96 00:06:22,380 --> 00:06:27,060 Becs Gentry: worlds, and an all around busy, busy human. Her journey 97 00:06:27,060 --> 00:06:30,450 Becs Gentry: back to running after 20 year hiatus began with the 98 00:06:30,450 --> 00:06:35,880 Becs Gentry: MasterCard New York Mini 10K in 2023. Since then, running 99 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,690 Becs Gentry: has transformed her life, turning her from a supporting character 100 00:06:39,690 --> 00:06:42,570 Becs Gentry: in other people's stories into the main character of her 101 00:06:42,570 --> 00:06:46,830 Becs Gentry: own. A story of grit, strength, and authenticity, she never 102 00:06:46,830 --> 00:06:50,970 Becs Gentry: imagined writing for herself just a few years ago. Now, 103 00:06:50,970 --> 00:06:57,330 Becs Gentry: Randi is gearing up for the incredible Cocodona 250. Yep, 104 00:06:57,390 --> 00:07:02,970 Becs Gentry: that is a 250- mile ultra marathon this coming May. So, 105 00:07:02,970 --> 00:07:04,920 Becs Gentry: we're going to hear all about her training in New 106 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,710 Becs Gentry: York City, her shift from road to trail running, and 107 00:07:07,710 --> 00:07:11,250 Becs Gentry: the powerful lessons ultra running has taught her about vulnerability, 108 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:16,980 Becs Gentry: community, and mental toughness. Randi, I can never smile as 109 00:07:16,980 --> 00:07:19,140 Becs Gentry: big as you because I think you have the biggest smile 110 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:21,540 Becs Gentry: I've ever known, and had the pleasure of meeting, but 111 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,840 Becs Gentry: it is so amazing to have you on Set the Pace. 112 00:07:25,380 --> 00:07:28,110 Randi Zuckerberg: Becs, I am the one that's smiling from ear to 113 00:07:28,110 --> 00:07:30,420 Randi Zuckerberg: ear, because first of all, this is one of my 114 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:34,320 Randi Zuckerberg: favorite podcasts, and I just look up to you so 115 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,410 Randi Zuckerberg: much. You're the most incredible runner, you have been in 116 00:07:37,410 --> 00:07:41,130 Randi Zuckerberg: my ear, coaching me through so many runs, and if I 117 00:07:41,130 --> 00:07:45,510 Randi Zuckerberg: could look back two years, and tell Randi entering that 118 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:49,770 Randi Zuckerberg: first 10K that I would be here getting interviewed by 119 00:07:49,770 --> 00:07:51,780 Randi Zuckerberg: you, I wouldn't have believed it. 120 00:07:53,310 --> 00:07:57,210 Becs Gentry: Which is wild to me, because I equally look to 121 00:07:57,210 --> 00:08:02,190 Becs Gentry: you with so much admiration and inspiration. Your journey that 122 00:08:02,190 --> 00:08:05,850 Becs Gentry: we're going to talk about has been an unusual one, 123 00:08:06,930 --> 00:08:09,870 Becs Gentry: to say the very least, and I will say, I 124 00:08:09,870 --> 00:08:14,640 Becs Gentry: have the actual bonus of having gotten to know Randi, 125 00:08:14,970 --> 00:08:21,030 Becs Gentry: and also your fabulous and wonderful husband and fellow running 126 00:08:21,030 --> 00:08:24,930 Becs Gentry: buddy, Brent. So, this whole journey that you're going to 127 00:08:24,930 --> 00:08:30,810 Becs Gentry: tell us, it involves him as well, so let's rewind. 128 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,150 Becs Gentry: Let's rewind a little bit here, because I want to 129 00:08:36,150 --> 00:08:40,589 Becs Gentry: talk about something that you and Brent actually told Austin 130 00:08:40,590 --> 00:08:43,800 Becs Gentry: and I at Knight of Champions last year. And that 131 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,179 Becs Gentry: was just about how you... You guys have been together 132 00:08:48,179 --> 00:08:48,960 Becs Gentry: forever, right? 133 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:51,960 Randi Zuckerberg: Yes, almost 25 years. 134 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:58,890 Becs Gentry: 25 years. College sweethearts, literally have gone through everything in 135 00:08:58,890 --> 00:09:02,040 Becs Gentry: life together, and now it's even more coming your way. 136 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:08,520 Becs Gentry: But you did fitness at college sort of individually, hung 137 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:15,300 Becs Gentry: out together, and then your lives took on the trajectory 138 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:18,090 Becs Gentry: that it does for everybody, we have careers, we have 139 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:22,500 Becs Gentry: kids, we get married, we settle down... You've done all 140 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:25,800 Becs Gentry: of this with such passion, and such success, both of 141 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Becs Gentry: you, and then 2023 rolls around, which is less than 142 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,260 Becs Gentry: two years ago, and Randi decides that she is going 143 00:09:37,260 --> 00:09:41,160 Becs Gentry: to go and lace up those shoes, and suddenly go 144 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,179 Becs Gentry: for a run. What made you, something must have triggered 145 00:09:45,179 --> 00:09:46,650 Becs Gentry: you to do that? What was it? 146 00:09:46,650 --> 00:09:52,679 Randi Zuckerberg: It was wild. So, I ran one marathon, back, right 147 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,179 Randi Zuckerberg: after I graduated college, it was the Chicago Marathon, it was in 2003. 148 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,270 Randi Zuckerberg: I had no Garmin, there was no Strava... I would go out and 149 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:06,270 Randi Zuckerberg: run and not post it, like shocking. 150 00:10:06,270 --> 00:10:06,720 Becs Gentry: Sinful. 151 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,719 Randi Zuckerberg: Sometimes I would go run and not even know how 152 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,040 Randi Zuckerberg: long I had run. 153 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:13,530 Becs Gentry: Those were the days. 154 00:10:15,870 --> 00:10:20,250 Randi Zuckerberg: Yeah, those were the days. And so, it was a fine experience, but I crossed that 155 00:10:20,250 --> 00:10:23,370 Randi Zuckerberg: finish line, I was like, okay, bucket list check, never 156 00:10:23,370 --> 00:10:28,980 Randi Zuckerberg: doing that again. And so, fast- forward 20 years, and 157 00:10:30,330 --> 00:10:33,510 Randi Zuckerberg: I came out of the pandemic, so lonely. I had 158 00:10:33,510 --> 00:10:36,929 Randi Zuckerberg: had a brand new baby right before we all went 159 00:10:36,929 --> 00:10:40,980 Randi Zuckerberg: into COVID lockdown, and I just felt so isolated with 160 00:10:40,980 --> 00:10:45,570 Randi Zuckerberg: this new baby, and so lonely, and I turned 40 161 00:10:45,630 --> 00:10:49,140 Randi Zuckerberg: during lockdown, and I kind of took stock of my 162 00:10:49,140 --> 00:10:51,300 Randi Zuckerberg: life. And you alluded to this a little in the 163 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:55,380 Randi Zuckerberg: beginning, but I've had a lot of sidekick energy my 164 00:10:55,380 --> 00:10:59,580 Randi Zuckerberg: whole life, which is great, everyone needs a sidekick, but 165 00:10:59,580 --> 00:11:04,770 Randi Zuckerberg: I've always been supporting my brother at his startup, supporting 166 00:11:04,770 --> 00:11:09,300 Randi Zuckerberg: my husband, and being Asher and Simi and Shira's mom, and I 167 00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:12,780 Randi Zuckerberg: realized if someone wrote the story of my life, I 168 00:11:12,780 --> 00:11:15,690 Randi Zuckerberg: wouldn't even be the main character in the story of 169 00:11:15,690 --> 00:11:19,979 Randi Zuckerberg: my own life. And that was a pretty sad and 170 00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:24,030 Randi Zuckerberg: shocking realization to come to at age 40, and I 171 00:11:24,030 --> 00:11:27,000 Randi Zuckerberg: didn't really know what to do with that information, or 172 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,740 Randi Zuckerberg: sitting with that, I just really thought, wow, I would 173 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:35,070 Randi Zuckerberg: really like to step into the main character role in my own 174 00:11:35,070 --> 00:11:39,870 Randi Zuckerberg: life. And there were these women at a local gym 175 00:11:39,870 --> 00:11:42,360 Randi Zuckerberg: that I would go to, and they would run the 176 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,819 Randi Zuckerberg: New York Road Runners races on the weekends, and go 177 00:11:44,820 --> 00:11:48,990 Randi Zuckerberg: have brunch. And I was like, I don't even think I like running, but 178 00:11:48,990 --> 00:11:54,480 Randi Zuckerberg: I really like brunch, and I'm very lonely, and these 179 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,010 Randi Zuckerberg: seem nice women, and so that was kind of how 180 00:11:59,010 --> 00:12:02,729 Randi Zuckerberg: I got into it. I didn't even think I could 181 00:12:02,730 --> 00:12:05,699 Randi Zuckerberg: run on pavement... I hadn't even run one step on 182 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:10,020 Randi Zuckerberg: pavement in 20 years, and I didn't know after having 183 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:12,449 Randi Zuckerberg: three kids if that would be something that I could 184 00:12:12,450 --> 00:12:17,220 Randi Zuckerberg: do. But we entered the Mini 10K, the MasterCard Mini 185 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:20,910 Randi Zuckerberg: 10K, and it was, oh my gosh, Becs, it was so joyful 186 00:12:20,910 --> 00:12:24,600 Randi Zuckerberg: to just see thousands of women out there, of all 187 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,850 Randi Zuckerberg: ages, and all body sizes, and just showing up for 188 00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:34,380 Randi Zuckerberg: themselves... I left that race, and I was like, I 189 00:12:34,380 --> 00:12:36,960 Randi Zuckerberg: think I could show up for myself in my own 190 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,230 Randi Zuckerberg: life, I think I can do a little more of this. 191 00:12:42,929 --> 00:12:45,839 Becs Gentry: I remember seeing you there at that race, I remember seeing a bunch of you, and you were 192 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,650 Becs Gentry: all dressed up, you had your mini- skirts on, your 193 00:12:49,650 --> 00:12:55,260 Becs Gentry: tutus, your sparkles, and I think we talked about this, 194 00:12:55,260 --> 00:12:57,960 Becs Gentry: or I think maybe I read about somewhere, about you 195 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,069 Becs Gentry: saying how lonely you were. 196 00:12:59,490 --> 00:12:59,491 Randi Zuckerberg: Yes. 197 00:12:59,491 --> 00:13:04,050 Becs Gentry: And I was feeling that exact same thing, at the 198 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:07,620 Becs Gentry: exact same time, because I just had Tallulah in '22, 199 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:11,429 Becs Gentry: in October of '22, and the MasterCard Mini 10K was my 200 00:13:11,429 --> 00:13:14,100 Becs Gentry: first race back. 201 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:14,160 Randi Zuckerberg: No. 202 00:13:14,970 --> 00:13:19,020 Becs Gentry: And I just resonated with everything you said, of, wow, 203 00:13:19,020 --> 00:13:22,620 Becs Gentry: I feel so lonely, gosh, I don't really know what 204 00:13:22,770 --> 00:13:25,530 Becs Gentry: to do here. I'd never raced a 10K, but I 205 00:13:25,530 --> 00:13:28,500 Becs Gentry: just threw myself into it because that was about the 206 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:32,190 Becs Gentry: distance I thought I could handle postpartum at that point. 207 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,950 Becs Gentry: And I just remember seeing you, and multiple other women 208 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:42,480 Becs Gentry: who'd come that day and been inspired by the community, 209 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:48,150 Becs Gentry: and you were vibrant, and just radiating this happiness for 210 00:13:48,150 --> 00:13:51,300 Becs Gentry: running. And so, it's funny to think in that moment 211 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:55,830 Becs Gentry: you weren't actually 100% sure about that happiness in running, 212 00:13:56,130 --> 00:13:58,230 Becs Gentry: but there you were, giving it a go. 213 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,970 Randi Zuckerberg: Yeah, there's something so magical about, you're running alone, but 214 00:14:02,970 --> 00:14:06,030 Randi Zuckerberg: it was the first time I didn't feel alone in 215 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:11,490 Randi Zuckerberg: so many years. So, yeah, then I decided to sign 216 00:14:11,490 --> 00:14:13,410 Randi Zuckerberg: up for a half marathon, I was like, all right, 217 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:20,190 Randi Zuckerberg: we survived the 10K. And Becs, I guess every good runner had 218 00:14:20,190 --> 00:14:24,390 Randi Zuckerberg: left the city that day because I broke the tape, 219 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,250 Randi Zuckerberg: I won the half marathon. I don't know what happened, 220 00:14:29,250 --> 00:14:33,420 Randi Zuckerberg: but all I know is I saw my daughter, who 221 00:14:33,420 --> 00:14:37,410 Randi Zuckerberg: was four years old at the time, standing by the 222 00:14:37,410 --> 00:14:43,320 Randi Zuckerberg: tape, and I just had the most profound experience as I 223 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,470 Randi Zuckerberg: turned the corner and I saw the tape. And in 224 00:14:46,470 --> 00:14:48,270 Randi Zuckerberg: that second where I knew that I was going to 225 00:14:48,270 --> 00:14:51,060 Randi Zuckerberg: be the one to break it, I was like, this 226 00:14:51,060 --> 00:14:57,630 Randi Zuckerberg: is all mine, no one in my life can say 227 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,440 Randi Zuckerberg: that this is because I'm someone's sister, or someone's wife, 228 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,430 Randi Zuckerberg: or someone's mom... This is the first thing in my 229 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:10,650 Randi Zuckerberg: entire life that is all mine. And it was just 230 00:15:10,890 --> 00:15:17,880 Randi Zuckerberg: this very profound realization that happened across four seconds, and 231 00:15:19,470 --> 00:15:22,770 Randi Zuckerberg: I was like, you know what? I think I found my main 232 00:15:22,770 --> 00:15:26,520 Randi Zuckerberg: character moment. And that was the moment that I really just 233 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,590 Randi Zuckerberg: completely fell in love with running. 234 00:15:29,190 --> 00:15:32,130 Becs Gentry: Wow. So, I'm going to take from that that one 235 00:15:32,130 --> 00:15:35,280 Becs Gentry: of the emotions you felt in that moment was happiness, 236 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:40,230 Becs Gentry: alongside, I'm sure, many others, pride, et cetera. That happiness, 237 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:45,930 Becs Gentry: okay, so it's something that we as parents, and especially 238 00:15:45,930 --> 00:15:51,390 Becs Gentry: as mothers, is not talked about very often. And I 239 00:15:51,390 --> 00:15:54,030 Becs Gentry: know we've had this conversation of how do you do 240 00:15:54,030 --> 00:15:56,490 Becs Gentry: it as a mom of three, I'm constantly like, how 241 00:15:56,490 --> 00:15:58,560 Becs Gentry: do you do this, Randi? I can't wait to be like 242 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,290 Becs Gentry: you as a mom, and just doing all these incredible things. 243 00:16:01,950 --> 00:16:06,990 Becs Gentry: But it's very, very important for parents and moms to 244 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:11,520 Becs Gentry: find that joy because it's common, and not many people 245 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:18,600 Becs Gentry: admit that you can be joyously happy, so, so fulfilled 246 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,470 Becs Gentry: and happy at home with your kids and your partners, 247 00:16:23,130 --> 00:16:28,890 Becs Gentry: but individually, your main character moment has gone. And you're 248 00:16:28,890 --> 00:16:35,220 Becs Gentry: like, oh, I just need that back. So, thank you for 249 00:16:35,550 --> 00:16:40,590 Becs Gentry: talking about that, and doing it with grace as well. 250 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:43,920 Becs Gentry: And for continuing to do it. So, we've got the 251 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:50,700 Becs Gentry: 10K in June 2023, and fast- forward to November, she 252 00:16:50,700 --> 00:16:53,070 Becs Gentry: toes the line for the TCS New York City Marathon. 253 00:16:53,070 --> 00:16:58,200 Becs Gentry: Talk us through that 10K, half marathon, marathon. 254 00:16:58,710 --> 00:17:02,790 Randi Zuckerberg: Yes. About a week after that half marathon, I got 255 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:07,830 Randi Zuckerberg: a call from the incredible Alysia Montañoo, who's putting together a 256 00:17:07,830 --> 00:17:11,430 Randi Zuckerberg: team of all moms to run the New York City 257 00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:15,810 Randi Zuckerberg: Marathon. And I wasn't even thinking of running a marathon, 258 00:17:15,810 --> 00:17:19,020 Randi Zuckerberg: but when you get a call from an Olympian, an 259 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:22,379 Randi Zuckerberg: Olympian runner, inviting you to be on their team, you do 260 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,310 Randi Zuckerberg: not say no to that. That's not a call that I 261 00:17:26,310 --> 00:17:28,050 Randi Zuckerberg: was going to get again. And so, I was like, 262 00:17:28,740 --> 00:17:30,960 Randi Zuckerberg: all right, I guess we're running the New York City 263 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:39,060 Randi Zuckerberg: Marathon. And I started to train, and... Wow, being on 264 00:17:39,060 --> 00:17:42,330 Randi Zuckerberg: that starting line, I just remember standing on the Verrazano 265 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:47,280 Randi Zuckerberg: Bridge, just weeping when they started to play New York, 266 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:53,429 Randi Zuckerberg: New York, just being like, I can't believe the circle 267 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:58,770 Randi Zuckerberg: that life has taken, from being one and done with 268 00:17:58,770 --> 00:18:03,570 Randi Zuckerberg: the Chicago Marathon, going on this wild journey... And I 269 00:18:03,570 --> 00:18:06,689 Randi Zuckerberg: ended up running the New York City Marathon an hour 270 00:18:06,690 --> 00:18:11,550 Randi Zuckerberg: faster in my 40s than I ran in my 20s. 271 00:18:11,609 --> 00:18:16,410 Randi Zuckerberg: And that was a big, I think, wake up call 272 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,830 Randi Zuckerberg: for me, and a lot of women, we write ourselves 273 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:22,590 Randi Zuckerberg: off in our 40s, we write ourselves off when we 274 00:18:22,590 --> 00:18:27,030 Randi Zuckerberg: become a mom, and that was a big moment where I was 275 00:18:27,030 --> 00:18:31,020 Randi Zuckerberg: like, maybe I'm just getting started. Maybe the best is 276 00:18:31,020 --> 00:18:34,770 Randi Zuckerberg: really yet to come, and I don't have to put 277 00:18:34,770 --> 00:18:37,740 Randi Zuckerberg: these limits on myself that I've thought I had to put. 278 00:18:38,730 --> 00:18:42,780 Becs Gentry: Wow. Wow. So, you're towing the line, you're standing there, you 279 00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:47,430 Becs Gentry: are ready to rock the New York City Marathon, part 280 00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:51,119 Becs Gentry: of the & Mother team, what was that experience like for 281 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,939 Becs Gentry: you, running through the city that you have lived in, 282 00:18:53,940 --> 00:18:57,899 Becs Gentry: that you have had your children in... And the celebration, 283 00:18:58,380 --> 00:18:59,190 Becs Gentry: tell us about that. 284 00:18:59,460 --> 00:19:04,020 Randi Zuckerberg: It was a 26.2 mile celebration, and one of my 285 00:19:04,020 --> 00:19:08,280 Randi Zuckerberg: first dates with my husband was running in Central Park, 286 00:19:08,790 --> 00:19:14,550 Randi Zuckerberg: so to finish the marathon almost in that exact same 287 00:19:14,550 --> 00:19:19,859 Randi Zuckerberg: park, where every monumental experience in my life has happened, 288 00:19:22,109 --> 00:19:24,990 Randi Zuckerberg: it's just so magical. And when you come off the 289 00:19:24,990 --> 00:19:29,220 Randi Zuckerberg: bridge, and you hear the screams of the crowd heading 290 00:19:29,220 --> 00:19:33,090 Randi Zuckerberg: up to the Upper East Side, I think I cried 291 00:19:33,090 --> 00:19:35,430 Randi Zuckerberg: six times during the New York City Marathon. 292 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:35,460 Becs Gentry: Aw. 293 00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:39,570 Randi Zuckerberg: I had headphones, I never even turned them on, I 294 00:19:39,570 --> 00:19:41,160 Randi Zuckerberg: never even put music on. 295 00:19:41,220 --> 00:19:41,940 Becs Gentry: Understandable. 296 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:51,960 Randi Zuckerberg: And yeah, it totally felt like a celebration. And yeah, 297 00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:56,460 Randi Zuckerberg: all I just remember thinking... And I remember when it 298 00:19:56,460 --> 00:20:02,820 Randi Zuckerberg: got hard, I really practiced talking kindly to myself, because 299 00:20:02,820 --> 00:20:06,570 Randi Zuckerberg: I think when things get hard, you can really descend 300 00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:10,950 Randi Zuckerberg: into negative self- talk. And I remember just saying things 301 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:17,340 Randi Zuckerberg: to myself like, how proud would Randi from two years 302 00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:20,460 Randi Zuckerberg: ago be right now, and how proud are your kids 303 00:20:20,460 --> 00:20:22,320 Randi Zuckerberg: going to be when you cross that finish line, and 304 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,850 Randi Zuckerberg: just that little shift in talking to myself positively made 305 00:20:26,850 --> 00:20:27,780 Randi Zuckerberg: all the difference. 306 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:33,090 Becs Gentry: I'm sure it did. Okay, so then there's three of 307 00:20:33,090 --> 00:20:36,960 Becs Gentry: the races, or the bigger ones under- 308 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,002 Randi Zuckerberg: The we go full crazy from there, then we (inaudible) . 309 00:20:39,002 --> 00:20:39,870 Becs Gentry: Then... Yes. 310 00:20:39,870 --> 00:20:39,871 Randi Zuckerberg: Okay. 311 00:20:39,871 --> 00:20:48,060 Becs Gentry: Then the tide shifts again, and the positive self- talk 312 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:53,190 Becs Gentry: was clearly working, the main character role has already won 313 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:58,109 Becs Gentry: Oscars, and they are coming for more right now. Because 314 00:20:58,530 --> 00:21:03,540 Becs Gentry: so soon after the New York City Marathon, Randi decides 315 00:21:03,540 --> 00:21:09,660 Becs Gentry: that 26. 2, not far enough. No, what's next? What's 316 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:14,640 Becs Gentry: the next little hurdle she can get to? And it 317 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,300 Becs Gentry: was a 50- mile race, right? You went for an ultra. 318 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,198 Becs Gentry: Off she goes. 319 00:21:19,199 --> 00:21:23,909 Randi Zuckerberg: Yeah. So, this is... Now, I feel like the story was a 320 00:21:23,910 --> 00:21:26,670 Randi Zuckerberg: little normal to this point, and now we just descend 321 00:21:26,670 --> 00:21:32,760 Randi Zuckerberg: into the full crazy. But maybe there's a little meaning 322 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,179 Randi Zuckerberg: to the madness because I have been reading a lot of 323 00:21:36,210 --> 00:21:42,270 Randi Zuckerberg: articles about how women, the longer a distance gets, women 324 00:21:43,109 --> 00:21:47,909 Randi Zuckerberg: start to outperform men, and actually the longer the distance, 325 00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:50,760 Randi Zuckerberg: the later in life your peak is. So, when they 326 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,109 Randi Zuckerberg: look at 50 and a 100- mile races, women are not peaking until 327 00:21:55,140 --> 00:21:58,678 Randi Zuckerberg: they're late 40s and even later, depending on the distance. 328 00:21:58,679 --> 00:21:58,680 Becs Gentry: Fantastic. 329 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,840 Randi Zuckerberg: And so, I thought to myself, okay, here I was being 330 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,200 Randi Zuckerberg: like, oh shucks, I wish I came into running sooner 331 00:22:07,260 --> 00:22:10,619 Randi Zuckerberg: in life, why am I just discovering that I love 332 00:22:10,619 --> 00:22:14,010 Randi Zuckerberg: this, and I'm 42, and it's all over for me? 333 00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:18,210 Randi Zuckerberg: But when I started researching the longer distances, I thought, 334 00:22:18,210 --> 00:22:21,898 Randi Zuckerberg: okay, maybe it's not over, let me see if I like 335 00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:27,330 Randi Zuckerberg: these longer distances. And I ran the perimeter of Manhattan, 336 00:22:27,330 --> 00:22:31,109 Randi Zuckerberg: which I know is a favorite run of yours, that 337 00:22:31,109 --> 00:22:35,399 Randi Zuckerberg: you absolutely crushed in your training, I ran the perimeter 338 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,790 Randi Zuckerberg: of Manhattan. I didn't even know what an ultra marathon 339 00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:42,929 Randi Zuckerberg: was, in fact, I was so embarrassed to be running 340 00:22:42,930 --> 00:22:46,230 Randi Zuckerberg: that long that I turned my watch off at 20 341 00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:51,090 Randi Zuckerberg: miles, because I was too embarrassed to tell anyone that I 342 00:22:51,090 --> 00:22:56,040 Randi Zuckerberg: was running that long. So, I did the perimeter, and 343 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,690 Randi Zuckerberg: something really fascinating happened, which is that around mile 25, 26, 344 00:23:00,690 --> 00:23:03,510 Randi Zuckerberg: I got faster. I hit my second wind, and I 345 00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:08,460 Randi Zuckerberg: got faster. And I was like, okay, all right, I think there's 346 00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:13,169 Randi Zuckerberg: some data here that (inaudible) . So, I signed up 347 00:23:13,170 --> 00:23:17,160 Randi Zuckerberg: for that 50 mile race, which was wild, I'd never 348 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,580 Randi Zuckerberg: run trails before, I showed up with a fanny pack 349 00:23:20,580 --> 00:23:23,639 Randi Zuckerberg: full of gummy worms, I didn't know what I was doing. 350 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:23,731 Becs Gentry: That sounds perfect. 351 00:23:23,731 --> 00:23:30,600 Randi Zuckerberg: It was great. And I somehow had a second place finish in that 352 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:36,990 Randi Zuckerberg: race, in my first ever ultra, so that unleashed the 353 00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:38,520 Randi Zuckerberg: full crazy. 354 00:23:38,820 --> 00:23:41,910 Becs Gentry: There it goes, it was there. So, how long after 355 00:23:41,910 --> 00:23:43,830 Becs Gentry: the TCS New York City Marathon was that race? 356 00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:44,311 Randi Zuckerberg: It was two weeks after. 357 00:23:44,311 --> 00:23:47,159 Becs Gentry: It was two weeks. And you'd run the perimeter whilst 358 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,811 Becs Gentry: you were training for the marathon? 359 00:23:48,811 --> 00:23:53,070 Randi Zuckerberg: Exactly. I ran the perimeter about maybe three weeks before 360 00:23:53,070 --> 00:23:54,210 Randi Zuckerberg: the New York City Marathon. 361 00:23:54,570 --> 00:24:05,010 Becs Gentry: Okay. Also, wildly awesome. So, when it comes to that strength, and I 362 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:09,900 Becs Gentry: think if we put on the hat of, is it 363 00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:13,949 Becs Gentry: beginner's luck? Is it because you're green when it comes 364 00:24:13,950 --> 00:24:17,670 Becs Gentry: to these distances, that you bowled yourself in, you came 365 00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:24,750 Becs Gentry: through with this second place finish, I think, initially, yes, absolutely. 366 00:24:24,990 --> 00:24:25,440 Randi Zuckerberg: Definitely. 367 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,330 Becs Gentry: Because knowing your personality, of course, you are so bright 368 00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:33,540 Becs Gentry: and bubbly, that I can just... If I want to 369 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:37,020 Becs Gentry: think a pile of mud is beautiful, I will call 370 00:24:37,020 --> 00:24:38,879 Becs Gentry: you, I would just be like, Randi, just tell me 371 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,800 Becs Gentry: that this is wonderful, because right now I don't see 372 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,869 Becs Gentry: it, and you would somehow make me believe that a 373 00:24:42,869 --> 00:24:47,580 Becs Gentry: pile of mud was sparkly and delightful. But you kept 374 00:24:47,580 --> 00:24:53,790 Becs Gentry: doing it. And the more... Okay, in duration, in timeframe, 375 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,730 Becs Gentry: you are still " new" to ultra running, but in distance 376 00:24:59,730 --> 00:25:06,810 Becs Gentry: completed, you are so tenured in these miles now. So, 377 00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:11,520 Becs Gentry: your ability to keep achieving, I don't think, personally, is 378 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,260 Becs Gentry: because you are new and unaware of how this is 379 00:25:16,260 --> 00:25:20,010 Becs Gentry: going to feel on your body. Because you have dipped 380 00:25:20,010 --> 00:25:26,670 Becs Gentry: yourself into 50 miles, you've done 80, 90 mile trail 381 00:25:26,670 --> 00:25:29,490 Becs Gentry: races, but then you've gone and done the things that 382 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:34,740 Becs Gentry: I would personally draw the line at. And you know this, 383 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:35,760 Becs Gentry: we've had these- 384 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,680 Randi Zuckerberg: (inaudible) parking lots, and doing... 385 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Becs Gentry: There we go, this one. Being Nemo, stuck in a fish tank. You 386 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,379 Becs Gentry: know in the movie when Nemo gets stuck in the 387 00:25:46,380 --> 00:25:48,600 Becs Gentry: fish tank, in the dentist office? And I'm like, this 388 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,390 Becs Gentry: poor baby fish, he can only swim in circles anyway, 389 00:25:51,390 --> 00:25:54,060 Becs Gentry: and now he's in a teeny tiny fish tank. Oh, 390 00:25:54,060 --> 00:25:56,460 Becs Gentry: boy, it's just made his circles even smaller. This was 391 00:25:56,460 --> 00:25:59,490 Becs Gentry: Randi to me. I was like, what is she doing? She's 392 00:25:59,490 --> 00:26:07,919 Becs Gentry: doing a 24- hour race, around a teeny tiny circuit. I'm 393 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,810 Becs Gentry: not even going to... Was it a track? I don't think it 394 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,470 Becs Gentry: was even- 395 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,810 Randi Zuckerberg: It was a three mile, a three- mile loop. 396 00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:13,740 Becs Gentry: A three mile loop. 397 00:26:14,010 --> 00:26:15,750 Randi Zuckerberg: But yes, but I think I did that loop, I don't know, 30, 40 times. 398 00:26:16,530 --> 00:26:21,270 Becs Gentry: I was going to say, I feel like it was about 40 times that you did 399 00:26:21,270 --> 00:26:28,709 Becs Gentry: that loop. So, Randi, what is in your brain, aside 400 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:33,240 Becs Gentry: from the family, the normal motivations, I want to dig 401 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,020 Becs Gentry: deep into what other things are going through your mind 402 00:26:37,020 --> 00:26:38,700 Becs Gentry: to get you through that monotony? 403 00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:44,520 Randi Zuckerberg: Yes, I think... And I even ask myself this sometimes, because I know 404 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,929 Randi Zuckerberg: from the outside it just looks absolutely insane, and so 405 00:26:48,930 --> 00:26:51,600 Randi Zuckerberg: I spend a lot of time, I feel like, justifying 406 00:26:51,630 --> 00:26:55,590 Randi Zuckerberg: my behavior to my friends, my family, myself. There's a 407 00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:58,950 Randi Zuckerberg: few things that I'll say, I think first, I have 408 00:26:58,950 --> 00:27:03,210 Randi Zuckerberg: this running alter ego, which, sorry if that sounds kind 409 00:27:03,210 --> 00:27:05,190 Randi Zuckerberg: of strange, but I call her Brandi. 410 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:05,250 Becs Gentry: No. 411 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:12,180 Randi Zuckerberg: And I found that in my life, Brandi's always been 412 00:27:12,180 --> 00:27:15,660 Randi Zuckerberg: with me, and if I didn't channel her, she gets 413 00:27:15,660 --> 00:27:19,980 Randi Zuckerberg: a little destructive. But running, I'm able to set her 414 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:24,750 Randi Zuckerberg: free. I'm able to give Brandi permission to just... She 415 00:27:24,750 --> 00:27:27,060 Randi Zuckerberg: doesn't have to act like a lady, she doesn't have 416 00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:30,869 Randi Zuckerberg: to be perfect, the way women in business and society 417 00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:33,840 Randi Zuckerberg: have been taught to act our whole lives, Brandi can 418 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:39,600 Randi Zuckerberg: just go full send. She can be unapologetic. And so, 419 00:27:40,740 --> 00:27:44,760 Randi Zuckerberg: that has really helped me to get to the start 420 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:50,160 Randi Zuckerberg: of a race, and give myself permission to just do 421 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:56,040 Randi Zuckerberg: it for me. I think also just the mental toughness, 422 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,550 Randi Zuckerberg: I didn't realize what a big part of running and 423 00:27:59,550 --> 00:28:03,150 Randi Zuckerberg: ultra running that is, and how well being an entrepreneur 424 00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:07,590 Randi Zuckerberg: had trained me to have mental toughness. Because when you 425 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:11,820 Randi Zuckerberg: are working 100 hours a week at a startup, and 426 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:15,960 Randi Zuckerberg: you're blazing new paths, and you're just constantly having to 427 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,189 Randi Zuckerberg: problem solve, on the front lines of Facebook, with my 428 00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:24,300 Randi Zuckerberg: brother, we were basically just problem solving for a decade 429 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:29,310 Randi Zuckerberg: straight, and then, you get out into an ultra, and 430 00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:32,429 Randi Zuckerberg: an ultra is less of a run and more of 431 00:28:32,430 --> 00:28:34,380 Randi Zuckerberg: a series of problem solving. 432 00:28:34,619 --> 00:28:37,171 Becs Gentry: Ooh, I love that 433 00:28:37,171 --> 00:28:40,680 Randi Zuckerberg: You're just running from one problem to the next, and solving 434 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,500 Randi Zuckerberg: it, and you don't know what's going to happen over 100 435 00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:46,740 Randi Zuckerberg: miles. Is it going to be a blister? Is it going 436 00:28:46,740 --> 00:28:49,560 Randi Zuckerberg: to be stomach problems? Is it going to be fueling? 437 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,450 Randi Zuckerberg: Is it going to be the weather? You don't know, 438 00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:57,150 Randi Zuckerberg: and so I felt so comfortable in those distances, because 439 00:28:57,150 --> 00:28:59,910 Randi Zuckerberg: as an entrepreneur I was like, I've done this for 440 00:28:59,910 --> 00:29:03,780 Randi Zuckerberg: decades, I'm a problem solver, and I can dig deep. 441 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:07,290 Randi Zuckerberg: And I didn't realize that I had been training to 442 00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:08,880 Randi Zuckerberg: run ultras my whole career. 443 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,650 Becs Gentry: I love that parallel between the two. And you're right, 444 00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:17,969 Becs Gentry: there's aid stations in these super long races, for somebody 445 00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:22,740 Becs Gentry: who's never had that experience, would be a moment of semi- 446 00:29:22,740 --> 00:29:24,270 Becs Gentry: panic, of like, okay, how are we going to get 447 00:29:24,270 --> 00:29:25,350 Becs Gentry: through this? How are we going to do this? I'm 448 00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:26,430 Becs Gentry: going to need to fuel, I'm going to need to 449 00:29:26,430 --> 00:29:27,900 Becs Gentry: pop that blister, I'm going to need to wrap this, 450 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,930 Becs Gentry: and blah, blah, blah, blah. But you are probably strategizing in 451 00:29:30,930 --> 00:29:34,530 Becs Gentry: the last mile, few meters before you get to the 452 00:29:34,530 --> 00:29:36,900 Becs Gentry: aid station, of like, this is a B and C, 453 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:38,910 Becs Gentry: we're doing it in this order, we're getting it done, 454 00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:39,720 Becs Gentry: and I'm moving on. 455 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,630 Randi Zuckerberg: Yeah, I always, I come into an aid station, I'm 456 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:44,640 Randi Zuckerberg: like, I have a checklist of things that I'm going 457 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,620 Randi Zuckerberg: to do, but I learn something new about myself in 458 00:29:49,620 --> 00:29:53,220 Randi Zuckerberg: every race that I do. Becs, I will say I race 459 00:29:53,790 --> 00:29:56,850 Randi Zuckerberg: a lot, and I know that that is different from 460 00:29:56,850 --> 00:29:59,010 Randi Zuckerberg: what a lot of runners do. A lot of runners, 461 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,180 Randi Zuckerberg: they'll have a couple of top races during the year. 462 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,190 Randi Zuckerberg: I find, unfortunately, as a female distance runner, it's not 463 00:30:08,190 --> 00:30:13,710 Randi Zuckerberg: very safe to just go out and run 20, 30, 40 miles 464 00:30:13,710 --> 00:30:14,430 Randi Zuckerberg: on your own. 465 00:30:14,790 --> 00:30:15,000 Becs Gentry: I agree. 466 00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:19,380 Randi Zuckerberg: And that's why I'm constantly looking for races to run 467 00:30:19,380 --> 00:30:23,010 Randi Zuckerberg: because I feel like that's the only environment that I 468 00:30:23,010 --> 00:30:26,160 Randi Zuckerberg: don't have to spend 30% of my brain being alert, 469 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,140 Randi Zuckerberg: and wondering if I'm safe, and if I'm going to 470 00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:31,230 Randi Zuckerberg: come home from my runs. So, I think if people 471 00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:34,440 Randi Zuckerberg: follow me on Strava, or they look at my runs, 472 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:38,130 Randi Zuckerberg: it might appear that I'm over- racing or I'm over- 473 00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:42,180 Randi Zuckerberg: entering things, but I think women, long distance runners have 474 00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:44,430 Randi Zuckerberg: very different considerations than men. 475 00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:49,380 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. And I would add onto that is, you spend the 476 00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:53,550 Becs Gentry: vast majority of your family's time, is New York City 477 00:30:53,550 --> 00:30:57,210 Becs Gentry: based. You are here in the heart of the city, 478 00:30:57,570 --> 00:31:01,830 Becs Gentry: and as much as people... In summer, fine, our daylight 479 00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:05,850 Becs Gentry: hours are longer, but in winter, you aren't going to 480 00:31:05,850 --> 00:31:09,989 Becs Gentry: step out after you've fed the kids, helped them with 481 00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:12,870 Becs Gentry: their homework, put them to bed, you're not going to 482 00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:17,670 Becs Gentry: step out into Central Park or the surrounding areas at 8:00, 9: 483 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,160 Becs Gentry: 00 at night, in the dark, to go and run 484 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,380 Becs Gentry: 20 miles, because it's just... I think, in my personal opinion, 485 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,520 Becs Gentry: it's a silly idea, by yourself, to do that. So, 486 00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:31,620 Becs Gentry: thank you for that explanation because I'm sure there are 487 00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:34,680 Becs Gentry: people out there who look at your stats, and are 488 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,750 Becs Gentry: just like, oh, she does a lot of races, but 489 00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:44,700 Becs Gentry: that makes total sense. And it's also your personal opinions, 490 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:48,840 Becs Gentry: and your personal choices. But let's talk about the races 491 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,790 Becs Gentry: that you haven't finished. So, DNF for those of our 492 00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:58,140 Becs Gentry: listeners who might not understand is did not finish. We 493 00:31:58,140 --> 00:32:01,140 Becs Gentry: have DNS, did not start, and DNF, did not finish. 494 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,420 Becs Gentry: In the running world, these little acronyms have stigma attached 495 00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:09,600 Becs Gentry: to them, because they are a question mark point to 496 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,060 Becs Gentry: anyone who stalks your running social. Everybody wants to know, 497 00:32:15,390 --> 00:32:19,950 Becs Gentry: what happened? Oh my gosh, are you injured? But from 498 00:32:19,950 --> 00:32:23,700 Becs Gentry: somebody who learned so many valuable lessons per run, you 499 00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:26,670 Becs Gentry: do not just race, but per run, talk to me 500 00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:30,420 Becs Gentry: about the DNS, when they happened, and what you've taken 501 00:32:30,420 --> 00:32:32,100 Becs Gentry: away from them in this time period. 502 00:32:32,430 --> 00:32:36,990 Randi Zuckerberg: Absolutely. And one thing, if people aren't ultra runners, on 503 00:32:36,990 --> 00:32:40,380 Randi Zuckerberg: the site, Ultra Sign Up, you have a ranking. And 504 00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:43,200 Randi Zuckerberg: so, when you do a road race, or you do 505 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,590 Randi Zuckerberg: a marathon, you have your standalone result from that, it 506 00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:50,580 Randi Zuckerberg: doesn't impact your whole career as a runner, but in 507 00:32:50,580 --> 00:32:53,460 Randi Zuckerberg: ultra running, every race that you do, you kind of 508 00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:56,820 Randi Zuckerberg: get ranked against the field, and then you have an 509 00:32:56,820 --> 00:33:02,220 Randi Zuckerberg: overall ranking, and that shows how you slot. So, dropping 510 00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:05,400 Randi Zuckerberg: out of a middle of a race really tanks your 511 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,600 Randi Zuckerberg: ranking. And there are certain races that you can't even 512 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,990 Randi Zuckerberg: register for unless you have a good enough ranking, because 513 00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:15,570 Randi Zuckerberg: they want to make sure that you have a good chance 514 00:33:15,570 --> 00:33:20,910 Randi Zuckerberg: of finishing. And so, for me, I've always been taught 515 00:33:20,910 --> 00:33:25,290 Randi Zuckerberg: to finish what you start, and dropping out of a 516 00:33:25,290 --> 00:33:29,760 Randi Zuckerberg: race is a really... I would almost rather collapse on a course 517 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,780 Randi Zuckerberg: than drop out. But this summer I did have my 518 00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:39,120 Randi Zuckerberg: first DNF. It was a trail race, 60 kilometers, and 519 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,090 Randi Zuckerberg: about three miles into the race I fell and hurt 520 00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:49,890 Randi Zuckerberg: my hamstring really badly, and I was sitting there... Even, 521 00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:52,110 Randi Zuckerberg: this is how crazy runners are, I was like, can 522 00:33:52,110 --> 00:33:55,920 Randi Zuckerberg: I still... Can I find 33 more miles on this 523 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,190 Randi Zuckerberg: injured leg? I actually thought that I should do that. 524 00:33:59,190 --> 00:34:03,930 Randi Zuckerberg: And then, I ended up calling one of my best 525 00:34:03,930 --> 00:34:08,520 Randi Zuckerberg: friends, who is also my PT, very helpful best friend 526 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,091 Randi Zuckerberg: to have when you're a runner. 527 00:34:09,091 --> 00:34:09,092 Becs Gentry: Very. 528 00:34:09,092 --> 00:34:14,730 Randi Zuckerberg: And he was like, do not finish this race, walk it in, and- 529 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:15,331 Becs Gentry: Good job. 530 00:34:15,331 --> 00:34:19,800 Randi Zuckerberg: ... let's make a new plan. And I beat myself 531 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,600 Randi Zuckerberg: up about that for a long time. Yeah, when I 532 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,450 Randi Zuckerberg: start something I like to show my children, I like 533 00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:29,700 Randi Zuckerberg: to show myself that I finish what I start, but 534 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,969 Randi Zuckerberg: sometimes quitting is a win. 535 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,260 Becs Gentry: Yeah. And accepting the vulnerability that you talk about, of 536 00:34:37,590 --> 00:34:41,730 Becs Gentry: having to deal with that moment of beating yourself up, 537 00:34:41,730 --> 00:34:44,880 Becs Gentry: or moments, as I know runners, we're all the same, 538 00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:49,380 Becs Gentry: it lasts a little longer than a moment. But you've 539 00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:51,900 Becs Gentry: talked about this, and I'm going to quote you, something called " 540 00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:57,961 Becs Gentry: Confident terror." And was that a moment where you felt that? 541 00:34:57,961 --> 00:35:04,590 Randi Zuckerberg: Yeah. Absolutely. I think anytime you're doing long distance running, or 542 00:35:04,590 --> 00:35:08,160 Randi Zuckerberg: any kind of endurance sport, there's a chance of failure 543 00:35:08,370 --> 00:35:10,800 Randi Zuckerberg: when you walk out onto that start line, it is 544 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,240 Randi Zuckerberg: not a given that you're going to make- 545 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,601 Becs Gentry: It's like roulette. 546 00:35:12,601 --> 00:35:17,670 Randi Zuckerberg: Yeah, it's roulette. Anything could happen, I've had great races and I 547 00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:20,520 Randi Zuckerberg: have had terrible races... We can talk about the Boston 548 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:26,160 Randi Zuckerberg: Marathon in a second, if you want. But I also think 549 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,359 Randi Zuckerberg: that's what's so thrilling, and so exciting about it. If 550 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,110 Randi Zuckerberg: there wasn't a chance of failure, is it even a 551 00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:37,560 Randi Zuckerberg: goal that's worth pursuing? Are you even pushing yourself hard 552 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,590 Randi Zuckerberg: enough in life? And so, when I step onto a 553 00:35:40,590 --> 00:35:43,890 Randi Zuckerberg: start line, and I do feel those butterflies, and I feel 554 00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:48,060 Randi Zuckerberg: that terror, I think that it's just a reminder that I've 555 00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:52,410 Randi Zuckerberg: picked the right goal to chase. And yeah, we're always 556 00:35:52,410 --> 00:35:54,960 Randi Zuckerberg: a little bit walking that line of failure. 557 00:35:55,290 --> 00:35:58,680 Becs Gentry: Yeah, absolutely. And I like to remind people that if 558 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,070 Becs Gentry: you're not feeling those butterflies, or whatever it is in 559 00:36:02,070 --> 00:36:04,950 Becs Gentry: the pit of your stomach, it almost means that you don't 560 00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:09,210 Becs Gentry: care. You have to feel nervous or excited, whatever you 561 00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:12,390 Becs Gentry: want to label it, you have to feel something to 562 00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:15,480 Becs Gentry: be aware that you care about what you're doing. 563 00:36:16,110 --> 00:36:18,090 Randi Zuckerberg: That resonates so much with me because I do a 564 00:36:18,090 --> 00:36:21,810 Randi Zuckerberg: lot of public speaking, I speak all around the world 565 00:36:21,810 --> 00:36:25,800 Randi Zuckerberg: about technology, and even though I've given hundreds of speeches, 566 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,090 Randi Zuckerberg: I still get stage fright. 567 00:36:27,090 --> 00:36:27,210 Becs Gentry: Really? 568 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,380 Randi Zuckerberg: And people are always a little confused about that, and 569 00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:35,070 Randi Zuckerberg: I'm like, no, I love that stage fright because it 570 00:36:35,070 --> 00:36:38,969 Randi Zuckerberg: reminds me that I care. I care so deeply about 571 00:36:38,969 --> 00:36:41,969 Randi Zuckerberg: connecting with an audience, I care so deeply about what 572 00:36:41,969 --> 00:36:44,370 Randi Zuckerberg: I'm doing, and the second you don't care, why are 573 00:36:44,370 --> 00:36:45,239 Randi Zuckerberg: you even doing it? 574 00:36:46,530 --> 00:36:53,190 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. Okay, talking about caring. This past year, so 2024, 575 00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:57,900 Becs Gentry: we step into spring, you've had a winter of running 576 00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:03,420 Becs Gentry: some pretty wild distance races, you ran the United Airlines 577 00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:09,900 Becs Gentry: Half in March, and you didn't have the best of 578 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:11,820 Becs Gentry: days, but you didn't have the worst of days. I 579 00:37:11,820 --> 00:37:17,610 Becs Gentry: remember seeing you and Brent at the finish, together, and 580 00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:22,469 Becs Gentry: then that's when we really started talking a lot, because 581 00:37:22,739 --> 00:37:24,390 Becs Gentry: you had Boston coming up. 582 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,670 Randi Zuckerberg: I'm sitting here, I know this is an audio podcast, I'm sitting here cringing at my 583 00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:34,200 Randi Zuckerberg: desk, thinking about Boston. But it's all right, no, can't 584 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:34,800 Randi Zuckerberg: win them all. 585 00:37:35,219 --> 00:37:39,300 Becs Gentry: You can't win them all. And your honesty and openness, and I 586 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,430 Becs Gentry: don't know whether that is a reflection of my honesty 587 00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:44,879 Becs Gentry: and openness, in when I talk to fellow runners, when 588 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,850 Becs Gentry: I talk to people who I feel I have an 589 00:37:47,850 --> 00:37:50,190 Becs Gentry: immediate bond with, and you are one of those people. 590 00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:54,510 Becs Gentry: And also, in my Peloton classes, I'm an open book. And 591 00:37:54,510 --> 00:37:56,790 Becs Gentry: I know Randi has taken a few of them. And 592 00:37:56,790 --> 00:38:01,170 Becs Gentry: I think, at that moment, pre- Boston and post- Boston, 593 00:38:01,170 --> 00:38:03,540 Becs Gentry: you were like, Becs is somebody I can tell this 594 00:38:03,540 --> 00:38:06,360 Becs Gentry: to, with no judgment. 595 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,002 Randi Zuckerberg: (inaudible) . 596 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,670 Becs Gentry: But talk us through the excitement of towing the line 597 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:17,611 Becs Gentry: to Boston and the, should we call it the relief of finishing it? 598 00:38:17,611 --> 00:38:21,030 Randi Zuckerberg: Absolutely. So, first of all, I should start by saying 599 00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:25,830 Randi Zuckerberg: that in February of last year, I tore my hamstring 600 00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:27,690 Randi Zuckerberg: in the middle of a half marathon. I was running 601 00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:31,680 Randi Zuckerberg: the Disney Princess Half Marathon, and at mile nine I 602 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,380 Randi Zuckerberg: just felt this pop in my leg, and I was 603 00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:38,910 Randi Zuckerberg: like, oh gosh, this is not good. Still somehow managed 604 00:38:38,910 --> 00:38:42,060 Randi Zuckerberg: to finish the race, but I was out for about 605 00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:46,529 Randi Zuckerberg: six weeks from running after that. So, the United Half, 606 00:38:46,530 --> 00:38:50,430 Randi Zuckerberg: when I saw you, was my first return to running 607 00:38:50,610 --> 00:38:53,400 Randi Zuckerberg: after that injury. So, even though it was not a 608 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,520 Randi Zuckerberg: PR for me, it was just an incredibly joyful day 609 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,370 Randi Zuckerberg: to be just back running the distances that I loved. 610 00:39:00,810 --> 00:39:04,830 Randi Zuckerberg: So, there I was, training for Boston a few weeks 611 00:39:04,830 --> 00:39:08,850 Randi Zuckerberg: later, having done no running because I had a torn 612 00:39:08,850 --> 00:39:13,739 Randi Zuckerberg: hamstring, only training on the bike, and doing things, and 613 00:39:13,739 --> 00:39:17,460 Randi Zuckerberg: I made... Oh my gosh. I made every beginner rookie 614 00:39:17,460 --> 00:39:22,380 Randi Zuckerberg: mistake in the book. I went out blazing, I PR'd 615 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:30,150 Randi Zuckerberg: my half marathon inside the Boston Marathon. It's like when 616 00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:35,009 Randi Zuckerberg: you're watching a train wreck, but you are the train, that was 617 00:39:35,010 --> 00:39:41,010 Randi Zuckerberg: what my race was like. And at mile 14, I saw my parents on the 618 00:39:41,010 --> 00:39:42,719 Randi Zuckerberg: side, and I started to cry. 619 00:39:43,410 --> 00:39:43,440 Becs Gentry: Aw. 620 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,370 Randi Zuckerberg: I should also remind everyone it was like 80 degrees that 621 00:39:47,370 --> 00:39:49,800 Randi Zuckerberg: day in Boston, it was a fluke hot day, and 622 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,750 Randi Zuckerberg: I was the slowest, I think I was... Your bibs 623 00:39:54,750 --> 00:39:59,069 Randi Zuckerberg: are the order you're ranked in, of qualifying. And so, out of 40, 000 624 00:39:59,070 --> 00:40:04,440 Randi Zuckerberg: runners, I think I was bib 39,997, the third- worst 625 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,590 Randi Zuckerberg: person in the Boston Marathon. And so, I had the 626 00:40:07,590 --> 00:40:10,920 Randi Zuckerberg: latest start time, so I was like the latest start 627 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,670 Randi Zuckerberg: time in- 628 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:12,270 Becs Gentry: What was that, like 11? 629 00:40:12,270 --> 00:40:17,010 Randi Zuckerberg: It was 11. So, I hit the uphill heartbreak hill, at 630 00:40:17,489 --> 00:40:23,430 Randi Zuckerberg: peak heat one, and I stopped to a walk, and 631 00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:29,489 Randi Zuckerberg: my heart rate was 203. And I was like, I 632 00:40:29,489 --> 00:40:33,750 Randi Zuckerberg: am going to die on this course. And I remember 633 00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:37,469 Randi Zuckerberg: I saw my husband, Brent, at mile 17, I somehow 634 00:40:37,469 --> 00:40:40,710 Randi Zuckerberg: made it to 17, and I was like, I can't 635 00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:43,259 Randi Zuckerberg: breathe, my heart rate is so high, and I was like, 636 00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:50,790 Randi Zuckerberg: okay, bye, and (inaudible) , and he was like, no, stop running. And then, this is where it 637 00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:58,230 Randi Zuckerberg: gets real fun, at mile 23, I saw Josh Vernon, 638 00:40:58,230 --> 00:41:00,870 Randi Zuckerberg: who's a friend of both of ours, I had only 639 00:41:00,870 --> 00:41:03,690 Randi Zuckerberg: known him on Instagram. We had never met on person. 640 00:41:03,690 --> 00:41:06,600 Randi Zuckerberg: And he was like, " Randi, it's Josh," and I went 641 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,120 Randi Zuckerberg: over to high five him, and instead I hit the 642 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:17,100 Randi Zuckerberg: ground and just vomited everywhere. I just died. And the 643 00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:20,640 Randi Zuckerberg: medics, two medics came out on the course to try 644 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,819 Randi Zuckerberg: to pull me, and I started screaming, I was like, " 645 00:41:24,450 --> 00:41:28,710 Randi Zuckerberg: I already bought the finisher jacket, I need to run 646 00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:35,000 Randi Zuckerberg: in Central Park with a Boston jacket." (inaudible) and I 647 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,880 Randi Zuckerberg: thought I was beasting it, I was running like a fifteen- minute 648 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,680 Randi Zuckerberg: mile. I somehow- 649 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,730 Becs Gentry: But still moving, 650 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,350 Randi Zuckerberg: Yes, still moving, and I somehow made it to the finish line. 651 00:41:46,350 --> 00:41:46,770 Becs Gentry: Wow. 652 00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:50,940 Randi Zuckerberg: The worst marathon ever, but I earned that finisher jacket. 653 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,440 Becs Gentry: You really, really did. And I wish I could show 654 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,989 Becs Gentry: people, but I never would, the message you sent me, 655 00:41:57,989 --> 00:42:01,650 Becs Gentry: and it was so blasé, of like, " Yeah, it wasn't the 656 00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:04,650 Becs Gentry: best of races, I had some GI issues." And then, 657 00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:06,600 Becs Gentry: when I next saw you and you told me about 658 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,000 Becs Gentry: it, I was like, GI issues, sure. 659 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,560 Randi Zuckerberg: (inaudible) it was real bad. But what I will say 660 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,351 Randi Zuckerberg: is I ran London six days later. 661 00:42:16,350 --> 00:42:16,680 Becs Gentry: Six days later. 662 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,230 Randi Zuckerberg: I did the Boston- London double- 663 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,750 Becs Gentry: You told me it was going to be your redemption race. 664 00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:29,340 Randi Zuckerberg: Yeah. And I ran a BQ time in London, six 665 00:42:29,340 --> 00:42:30,120 Randi Zuckerberg: days later. 666 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,270 Becs Gentry: You did. 667 00:42:30,270 --> 00:42:33,690 Randi Zuckerberg: And so, I think just another takeaway from that is 668 00:42:33,690 --> 00:42:37,230 Randi Zuckerberg: that you can't judge yourself as a runner or as 669 00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:39,930 Randi Zuckerberg: a person by how you show up on one day. 670 00:42:40,530 --> 00:42:45,750 Randi Zuckerberg: Same runner, six days apart, two totally different conditions, almost 671 00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:49,920 Randi Zuckerberg: an hour difference in how I raced. And so, if 672 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,629 Randi Zuckerberg: you have a bad race, if you have a good 673 00:42:51,630 --> 00:42:56,280 Randi Zuckerberg: race, you just move forward because it's not indicative of 674 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,770 Randi Zuckerberg: your self- worth or your value as an athlete. 675 00:42:59,250 --> 00:43:02,280 Becs Gentry: I love that, that is so true, and something I 676 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,050 Becs Gentry: think every runner needs to hear. So, on that note, 677 00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:14,340 Becs Gentry: I want to ask you how, because I'm intrigued, how 678 00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:22,440 Becs Gentry: do you balance the main character of Brandi, and the 679 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:31,859 Becs Gentry: entrepreneur, businesswoman Randi Zuckerberg, and Brent's wife and lifelong partner, 680 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,900 Becs Gentry: and being a mother of three, how do you do 681 00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:38,460 Becs Gentry: all of that with this joy? 682 00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:42,390 Randi Zuckerberg: Oh my gosh. First of all, same right back at 683 00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:45,960 Randi Zuckerberg: you, you balance so much with such beauty and grace. 684 00:43:47,730 --> 00:43:52,320 Randi Zuckerberg: There are definitely trade- offs, I wake up at 4: 685 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,200 Randi Zuckerberg: 30 or 5: 00 AM most mornings, and try to 686 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,530 Randi Zuckerberg: get my run and my training in really early, so 687 00:43:58,530 --> 00:44:02,790 Randi Zuckerberg: that starting at 7: 00/7: 30 I'm on, I'm on 688 00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:07,739 Randi Zuckerberg: mom duty. And so, there are definitely sacrifices that come 689 00:44:07,739 --> 00:44:12,630 Randi Zuckerberg: with balancing all of that. And I think it's beautiful 690 00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:16,799 Randi Zuckerberg: in life to have a mix of sidekick and main 691 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,710 Randi Zuckerberg: character energy. If you're the main character all the time, 692 00:44:19,710 --> 00:44:22,859 Randi Zuckerberg: that means you have no community, you have no one 693 00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:26,100 Randi Zuckerberg: else around you that you're supporting, but if you're the 694 00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:28,739 Randi Zuckerberg: sidekick all the time, you get a little lost. And 695 00:44:28,739 --> 00:44:32,610 Randi Zuckerberg: so, I find for me, I love balancing these roles, 696 00:44:32,610 --> 00:44:37,529 Randi Zuckerberg: I love being the mom, I sit on a bunch 697 00:44:37,530 --> 00:44:40,469 Randi Zuckerberg: of boards, and advise entrepreneurs, and I love being a 698 00:44:40,469 --> 00:44:45,750 Randi Zuckerberg: sidekick in those roles. You're a racer and you're a 699 00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:49,680 Randi Zuckerberg: coach, you're the perfect blend of main character and sidekick. 700 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,840 Randi Zuckerberg: And I think if you're going to be part of 701 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,530 Randi Zuckerberg: a community, and invest in it, you need that full circle. 702 00:44:55,830 --> 00:45:03,989 Becs Gentry: Yeah, absolutely. On a mom personal front, what has been, 703 00:45:04,050 --> 00:45:10,200 Becs Gentry: or has there been, a ripple effect of something that has 704 00:45:10,410 --> 00:45:15,149 Becs Gentry: come from Brandi and running all these miles that has 705 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,420 Becs Gentry: come into your life as mom? 706 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,400 Randi Zuckerberg: So many. Oh my gosh. Just this morning minutes before 707 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,969 Randi Zuckerberg: we taped together, my 13- year- old and I ran 708 00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:28,290 Randi Zuckerberg: 10 miles together. 709 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,041 Becs Gentry: What? 710 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,980 Randi Zuckerberg: It was his longest run he's ever done, we're training 711 00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:36,899 Randi Zuckerberg: for a half marathon together- 712 00:45:36,959 --> 00:45:36,960 Becs Gentry: Wow. 713 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,231 Randi Zuckerberg: ... and he was his first ever double- digit mile. 714 00:45:40,231 --> 00:45:42,330 Becs Gentry: We are so proud of him. 715 00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:46,002 Randi Zuckerberg: It's six degrees outside. (inaudible) - 716 00:45:45,989 --> 00:45:46,081 Becs Gentry: It's freezing. 717 00:45:46,081 --> 00:45:50,130 Randi Zuckerberg: ... we bundled up, and we got it done. And 718 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:59,370 Randi Zuckerberg: I've seen... My 9- year- old ran 365 miles last 719 00:45:59,370 --> 00:46:03,390 Randi Zuckerberg: year, he entered one of the loop ultras that I 720 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:07,500 Randi Zuckerberg: did. Again, for anyone who's not familiar with ultras, not 721 00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:09,989 Randi Zuckerberg: every race is for a distance, some are for a 722 00:46:09,989 --> 00:46:12,810 Randi Zuckerberg: time. And I enter a lot of races where it's 723 00:46:12,810 --> 00:46:15,360 Randi Zuckerberg: like, how many loops can you run in four hours, 724 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,030 Randi Zuckerberg: which is a great ultra for beginners, because you can 725 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:21,839 Randi Zuckerberg: stop and rest, and you can... My son did 16 726 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,790 Randi Zuckerberg: miles at one of those- 727 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,601 Becs Gentry: Your nine- year- old? 728 00:46:24,601 --> 00:46:29,160 Randi Zuckerberg: ... (inaudible) . Yeah, at nine years old. And so, 729 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,660 Randi Zuckerberg: it's now become this beautiful thing that our whole family 730 00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:36,390 Randi Zuckerberg: shares. My husband and I ran the New York City 731 00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:39,240 Randi Zuckerberg: Marathon this year, together, hand in hand. And- 732 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:41,311 Becs Gentry: And you've stayed married. 733 00:46:41,311 --> 00:46:48,930 Randi Zuckerberg: We've shockingly stayed married, after doing that. But it's so beautiful 734 00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:54,839 Randi Zuckerberg: to really see the whole family start to care about 735 00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:58,110 Randi Zuckerberg: health and wellness and fitness, being on this journey together. 736 00:46:58,469 --> 00:47:02,460 Becs Gentry: Yeah. All because they're inspired by their incredible mom, who they 737 00:47:02,460 --> 00:47:04,770 Becs Gentry: got to cheer at a podium finish this past weekend, 738 00:47:04,770 --> 00:47:08,340 Becs Gentry: by the way, congratulations. Randi came in first overall female 739 00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:14,009 Becs Gentry: at the Frozen Looper, which was the four- hour constant running. 740 00:47:14,010 --> 00:47:16,980 Randi Zuckerberg: This might've been, I've done a lot of psycho things, Becs, This 741 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,160 Randi Zuckerberg: might've been the most psycho. It was a half a 742 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:25,589 Randi Zuckerberg: mile loop that you ran for four straight hours. So, 743 00:47:25,590 --> 00:47:31,140 Randi Zuckerberg: I ran that loop 48 times. But one thing I've 744 00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:35,400 Randi Zuckerberg: learned about myself as a runner is I cannot outrun 745 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,819 Randi Zuckerberg: most people, but I can out suffer most people. And 746 00:47:40,140 --> 00:47:43,110 Randi Zuckerberg: when you're an ultra, or a very long distance runner, 747 00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:45,719 Randi Zuckerberg: that's almost a better skill to have than the running. 748 00:47:46,770 --> 00:47:51,660 Becs Gentry: Okay. So, if I see you with our good friend, Sanjay, at 3, 749 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:54,510 Becs Gentry: 100 this year, I shouldn't be shocked, is that what 750 00:47:54,510 --> 00:47:55,110 Becs Gentry: you're telling me? 751 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,350 Randi Zuckerberg: Sanjay tried to pitch me on the 3, 100. 752 00:47:58,350 --> 00:47:59,010 Becs Gentry: I'm sure. 753 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,000 Randi Zuckerberg: He's like our loop is 0. 08 miles longer than the 754 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,850 Randi Zuckerberg: one you ran, so come do it. But I was at my wits end after four hours 755 00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:11,550 Randi Zuckerberg: of running a half mile loop, I don't know how 756 00:48:11,550 --> 00:48:12,810 Randi Zuckerberg: people do that for months. 757 00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:16,710 Becs Gentry: No. Sanjay would be able to educate us all on 758 00:48:17,070 --> 00:48:20,280 Becs Gentry: transcendence and self learning. 759 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,180 Randi Zuckerberg: Yes. The spiritual, you break through the barriers, mental and spiritual 760 00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:26,100 Randi Zuckerberg: barriers. I have not figured out how to break through 761 00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:27,031 Randi Zuckerberg: that yet, but I'm working on it. 762 00:48:27,031 --> 00:48:30,870 Becs Gentry: Same. I'm so far behind you on the distance, but 763 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:33,630 Becs Gentry: he also, for the past six years of my life, 764 00:48:33,630 --> 00:48:38,070 Becs Gentry: every year he's like, " Hey?" I'm like, " Nope, we're good." I 765 00:48:38,070 --> 00:48:40,590 Becs Gentry: will come every year and support you, and walk a 766 00:48:40,590 --> 00:48:42,779 Becs Gentry: lap, and then I remind myself that I couldn't do 767 00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:43,440 Becs Gentry: this for weeks. 768 00:48:43,830 --> 00:48:47,610 Randi Zuckerberg: That's right. Yeah. Every time that I hit a new 769 00:48:47,610 --> 00:48:50,250 Randi Zuckerberg: distance or something that I think is crazy, I just 770 00:48:50,850 --> 00:48:53,640 Randi Zuckerberg: research some of the other things that people are doing 771 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,060 Randi Zuckerberg: and running, and I'm like, nope. Wow. There's still a long 772 00:48:57,540 --> 00:48:59,730 Randi Zuckerberg: descent into darkness for me. 773 00:48:59,730 --> 00:49:03,930 Becs Gentry: There is. So, I'm going to wrap this up by 774 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,250 Becs Gentry: taking your own words there. There's a long descent into 775 00:49:08,250 --> 00:49:12,360 Becs Gentry: darkness, Randi Zuckerberg, you are about to run one of 776 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,950 Becs Gentry: the toughest and longest races on the trail running calendar. 777 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,969 Becs Gentry: People are like, oh, she's doing Bad Water, nope. No, no, 778 00:49:20,969 --> 00:49:23,940 Becs Gentry: no, we're going deeper. We're going harder, we're going longer 779 00:49:23,940 --> 00:49:32,009 Becs Gentry: here. Randi is running Cocadona 250. 250 mile ultra race this May. 780 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:40,320 Becs Gentry: What on Earth made you think, sure, let's do it, this year? 781 00:49:41,010 --> 00:49:44,160 Randi Zuckerberg: Yeah. So, first of all, I wake up every day 782 00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:50,730 Randi Zuckerberg: feeling so excited and so terrified about this race. I 783 00:49:50,730 --> 00:49:53,969 Randi Zuckerberg: saw all the coverage of the race last year, and I 784 00:49:53,969 --> 00:49:56,850 Randi Zuckerberg: got those butterflies in my stomach like we were talking 785 00:49:56,850 --> 00:50:00,569 Randi Zuckerberg: about, and it's so rare to get that feeling in 786 00:50:00,570 --> 00:50:04,170 Randi Zuckerberg: life, when you're so excited about something, and you know 787 00:50:04,170 --> 00:50:08,819 Randi Zuckerberg: it's attainable, but just a little bit beyond what you're 788 00:50:08,820 --> 00:50:13,259 Randi Zuckerberg: capable of. And so, I just did it, I signed up. 789 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:13,529 Becs Gentry: Just did it. 790 00:50:13,530 --> 00:50:15,420 Randi Zuckerberg: I was like, I'm just going to do it before 791 00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:20,640 Randi Zuckerberg: I chicken out here, and then I called four friends 792 00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:24,210 Randi Zuckerberg: to tell them. And I think this was the thing 793 00:50:24,210 --> 00:50:27,330 Randi Zuckerberg: that really gave me the confidence boost, not a single 794 00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:29,759 Randi Zuckerberg: of them told me I was crazy. In fact, they 795 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,850 Randi Zuckerberg: were all like, can I be on your crew? The 796 00:50:32,850 --> 00:50:36,750 Randi Zuckerberg: first four people I called were like, so glad you're 797 00:50:36,750 --> 00:50:39,779 Randi Zuckerberg: doing this, can I be part of that? And I was 798 00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:42,930 Randi Zuckerberg: like, okay, maybe that just shows that I've surrounded myself 799 00:50:42,930 --> 00:50:45,989 Randi Zuckerberg: with other psychos, maybe that's just what it shows. But 800 00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:51,750 Randi Zuckerberg: I was like, wow, the first four people I called didn't 801 00:50:51,870 --> 00:50:54,600 Randi Zuckerberg: say, you're nuts, why did you do this? They were like- 802 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,170 Becs Gentry: Fantastic. 803 00:50:55,230 --> 00:50:59,520 Randi Zuckerberg: Hell yes. And that's how I knew I chose the right 804 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,000 Randi Zuckerberg: thing. It is challenging being an urban mom in New 805 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,160 Randi Zuckerberg: York City, training for a race like that, because I 806 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,820 Randi Zuckerberg: don't live in Flagstaff, or Colorado, I don't have access 807 00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:11,640 Randi Zuckerberg: to trails. So, I do a lot of crazy things, 808 00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:14,910 Randi Zuckerberg: Becs, like I run up and down flights of stairs. 809 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,750 Randi Zuckerberg: I do crazy things. I run a lot of back 810 00:51:21,750 --> 00:51:26,730 Randi Zuckerberg: to back really long runs, or sit in saunas and 811 00:51:26,730 --> 00:51:30,690 Randi Zuckerberg: do crazy things. But you just make it work, wherever 812 00:51:30,690 --> 00:51:34,350 Randi Zuckerberg: you are, and whatever you have access to, you just 813 00:51:34,350 --> 00:51:35,250 Randi Zuckerberg: do what you need to do. 814 00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:40,830 Becs Gentry: If you had to pick one thing that is scaring 815 00:51:40,830 --> 00:51:45,000 Becs Gentry: you more than any other race, because this will be 816 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,560 Becs Gentry: the longest you've run, right? 817 00:51:46,890 --> 00:51:46,980 Randi Zuckerberg: Yes. 818 00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:50,580 Becs Gentry: What would be the one thing right now that's inciting 819 00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:52,260 Becs Gentry: that fear in you about this race? 820 00:51:53,130 --> 00:51:54,630 Randi Zuckerberg: I think the scariest thing is that you have to 821 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:59,489 Randi Zuckerberg: go the first 80 miles alone, without your crew, without 822 00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:04,710 Randi Zuckerberg: any support. So, you have an unsupported 80 miles. I've 823 00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:09,270 Randi Zuckerberg: never run that length in the darkness by myself, and 824 00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:15,810 Randi Zuckerberg: on trails. And so, that definitely scares me. And I 825 00:52:15,810 --> 00:52:17,969 Randi Zuckerberg: think a lot about how to train that, how to 826 00:52:17,969 --> 00:52:22,710 Randi Zuckerberg: get a little mentally tougher, and how to face some 827 00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:25,290 Randi Zuckerberg: of those fears that I have of being a woman 828 00:52:25,290 --> 00:52:28,739 Randi Zuckerberg: out in the desert, running for 80 miles by myself. But 829 00:52:30,060 --> 00:52:35,070 Randi Zuckerberg: we are tough, we're warriors. If you can have children, 830 00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:38,340 Randi Zuckerberg: and start a company, and do these things, you can 831 00:52:38,340 --> 00:52:41,520 Randi Zuckerberg: run 80 miles through the desert. And so, we're just 832 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,330 Randi Zuckerberg: going to find a way. 833 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,759 Becs Gentry: And you'll have your fanny pack full of gummy worms 834 00:52:45,450 --> 00:52:46,290 Becs Gentry: with you as well. 835 00:52:46,290 --> 00:52:47,940 Randi Zuckerberg: Yes. All the gummy worms. 836 00:52:49,980 --> 00:52:53,880 Becs Gentry: Well, Randi, we could sit and talk running for hours 837 00:52:53,940 --> 00:52:59,430 Becs Gentry: and hours together, I am just constantly in awe, I 838 00:52:59,430 --> 00:53:01,529 Becs Gentry: cannot wait... I wish I could come and crew you 839 00:53:01,530 --> 00:53:05,730 Becs Gentry: as well for Cocodona, but I will be cheering you 840 00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:08,339 Becs Gentry: on from the other side of the world at that 841 00:53:08,340 --> 00:53:12,600 Becs Gentry: point. I'm so excited to watch you train for this, 842 00:53:12,660 --> 00:53:16,410 Becs Gentry: and I'm sure, see you at many New York Road 843 00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:21,270 Becs Gentry: Runners events between now and your takeoff for Cocodona. But 844 00:53:22,290 --> 00:53:26,340 Becs Gentry: thank you for being a light in the running world, 845 00:53:27,390 --> 00:53:30,120 Becs Gentry: and in the world of business, and female, you're a 846 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,840 Becs Gentry: force to be reckoned with on the business and entrepreneurship 847 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,950 Becs Gentry: side as well. So, bringing everything together, you are an 848 00:53:37,950 --> 00:53:41,700 Becs Gentry: inspiration, so thank you for all you do, and thank 849 00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:44,580 Becs Gentry: you so much for being our guest today on Set The Pace. 850 00:53:44,610 --> 00:53:48,030 Randi Zuckerberg: Well, when you do your crazy ultra one day, you 851 00:53:48,030 --> 00:53:49,830 Randi Zuckerberg: have to let me be on your crew. 852 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:50,279 Becs Gentry: Deal. 853 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,210 Randi Zuckerberg: (inaudible) . Becs, thank you so much, what a pleasure to chat with 854 00:53:54,210 --> 00:53:54,450 Randi Zuckerberg: you today. 855 00:54:07,410 --> 00:54:09,960 Becs Gentry: As our listeners know, a critical element of New York 856 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,080 Becs Gentry: Road Runner's commitment to transforming the health and well- being 857 00:54:13,110 --> 00:54:17,190 Becs Gentry: of our communities is our official charity partners program. The 858 00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:20,700 Becs Gentry: program offers hundreds of charities the opportunity to raise vital 859 00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:24,210 Becs Gentry: funds via runners who are looking to gain guaranteed entry 860 00:54:24,270 --> 00:54:28,109 Becs Gentry: into our sold out premier events. In fact, we had 861 00:54:28,110 --> 00:54:33,989 Becs Gentry: runners supporting 570 official charity partners at the last 2024 862 00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:38,610 Becs Gentry: TCS New York City Marathon. One of those incredible charity 863 00:54:38,610 --> 00:54:43,259 Becs Gentry: partners is CurePSP, a nonprofit that raises money to support 864 00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:49,050 Becs Gentry: research into neurodegenerative diseases. That connection leads us directly to 865 00:54:49,050 --> 00:54:54,090 Becs Gentry: today's featured member, Kurt Farrell. Kurt isn't just here because 866 00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:56,969 Becs Gentry: he's a dedicated New York Road Runner's runner, he's here 867 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,569 Becs Gentry: because of his groundbreaking work as a neuroscientist, which has 868 00:55:00,570 --> 00:55:05,880 Becs Gentry: received funding from our charity partner, CurePSP. In his lab, 869 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:09,839 Becs Gentry: Kurt focuses on studying dementia and aging, and he was 870 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:15,510 Becs Gentry: honored as the 2023 recipient of CurePSP's prestigious Pathway Award. 871 00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:19,680 Becs Gentry: Today, he's joining us not only to share his experiences 872 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,780 Becs Gentry: as a New York Road Runner's member, who has run 873 00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:27,299 Becs Gentry: an impressive 35 races since August of 2022, but also 874 00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:30,719 Becs Gentry: to talk about his unique perspective as somebody whose vital 875 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,010 Becs Gentry: research has been supported through the NYRR Charity Partners Program. 876 00:55:35,550 --> 00:55:37,410 Becs Gentry: Please welcome, Kurt Farrell. 877 00:55:37,890 --> 00:55:41,969 Speaker 5: Thanks, Becs. Kurt, welcome to the Set the Pace Podcast. 878 00:55:42,330 --> 00:55:44,190 Speaker 5: Can you tell us a little bit about the work 879 00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:48,180 Speaker 5: you are doing as a research scientist studying dementia and aging? 880 00:55:49,140 --> 00:55:52,980 Kurt Farrell: Absolutely, I'd be happy to. So, I am at a 881 00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:55,649 Kurt Farrell: medical school here in New York City, I'm an assistant 882 00:55:55,650 --> 00:56:00,780 Kurt Farrell: professor, most of my work focuses on dementia and aging, 883 00:56:01,530 --> 00:56:05,910 Kurt Farrell: particularly I'm interested in a rare disorder called progressive supranuclear 884 00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:09,600 Kurt Farrell: palsy. So, this presents as a movement disorder, and eventually 885 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:15,509 Kurt Farrell: becomes dementing. Unfortunately, it is somewhat rare, but we have 886 00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:19,890 Kurt Farrell: seen more people being afflicted by it, including a congresswoman 887 00:56:19,890 --> 00:56:24,180 Kurt Farrell: in Virginia, Jennifer Wexton, unfortunately, she had to step down 888 00:56:24,180 --> 00:56:26,969 Kurt Farrell: this year. And the way that I tackle this disorder 889 00:56:26,969 --> 00:56:31,260 Kurt Farrell: is using genetics to understand common risk associated with the 890 00:56:31,260 --> 00:56:36,270 Kurt Farrell: disease, so eventually we can design some therapeutic targets to 891 00:56:36,330 --> 00:56:38,760 Kurt Farrell: hopefully one day cure the disorder. 892 00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:43,980 Speaker 5: Sounds some great work. Can you explain how CurePSP, a 893 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 5: charity partner of the New York Road Runners, supports your research? 894 00:56:48,270 --> 00:56:52,620 Kurt Farrell: Yeah, absolutely. So, I've been working with CurePSP for almost 895 00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:56,700 Kurt Farrell: a decade now, they are a nonprofit that raise money 896 00:56:56,700 --> 00:57:01,080 Kurt Farrell: for research as well as patient advocacy, other things related 897 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,430 Kurt Farrell: to the disorder. One of their research programs focuses on 898 00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:11,100 Kurt Farrell: doing biomarker and therapeutic research, so it's a competitive process, 899 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,630 Kurt Farrell: I write grants to the nonprofit, and their scientific advisory 900 00:57:15,630 --> 00:57:19,590 Kurt Farrell: board reviews them, they get multiple, if not upwards of 901 00:57:19,590 --> 00:57:23,070 Kurt Farrell: 50 grant applications per year, and then they fund a 902 00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:27,390 Kurt Farrell: select number that's selected by their advisory board. And as 903 00:57:27,420 --> 00:57:30,870 Kurt Farrell: was stated earlier, most of the money that's raised comes 904 00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:35,490 Kurt Farrell: through donations, through things like running through the Road Runners. 905 00:57:36,210 --> 00:57:38,910 Speaker 5: Incredible. You have run a lot of races, to be 906 00:57:38,910 --> 00:57:42,570 Speaker 5: exact, 35 New York Road Runners races in the past two and a half 907 00:57:42,570 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 5: years, what inspires you to take up running in the 908 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:46,140 Speaker 5: first place? 909 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,110 Kurt Farrell: So, actually, originally I was a skier until I moved to 910 00:57:52,170 --> 00:57:54,720 Kurt Farrell: New York, and I realized I needed to do something 911 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,000 Kurt Farrell: to keep active, so one day when I got back 912 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,890 Kurt Farrell: to skiing, I would still be in good shape, and 913 00:57:58,890 --> 00:58:01,830 Kurt Farrell: a friend suggested that I start running with the Road 914 00:58:01,830 --> 00:58:05,700 Kurt Farrell: Runners, and my first race was so hot, it was 915 00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:08,100 Kurt Farrell: in the summer, I forget which one, but I was 916 00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:10,800 Kurt Farrell: just hooked, and it was so much fun, there's such a 917 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,200 Kurt Farrell: sense of community, and it gives me a minute to 918 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,730 Kurt Farrell: just focus on my research, and other things, as I'm 919 00:58:17,730 --> 00:58:20,760 Kurt Farrell: just running through the park. And it's really been a 920 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,470 Kurt Farrell: great way to not only exercise, but to refresh myself 921 00:58:25,470 --> 00:58:29,430 Kurt Farrell: mentally, and allow me to continue in my research career. 922 00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:33,120 Kurt Farrell: So, I can't say anything negative about my experience with 923 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,560 Kurt Farrell: the Road Runners thus so far. 924 00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:37,350 Speaker 5: Well, awesome. I was encouraged to take up on skiing, 925 00:58:37,350 --> 00:58:41,220 Speaker 5: but preventing injuries I never tried, but definitely it builds 926 00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:44,190 Speaker 5: stamina. But how does your running helps you in your 927 00:58:44,190 --> 00:58:46,439 Speaker 5: professional life as a neuroscientist? 928 00:58:47,250 --> 00:58:49,230 Kurt Farrell: Yeah, so it gets back to the point I was 929 00:58:49,230 --> 00:58:51,750 Kurt Farrell: saying earlier. For some reason, just when I'm running, I 930 00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:56,250 Kurt Farrell: can shut a lot of the noise off and really focus 931 00:58:56,250 --> 00:59:00,990 Kurt Farrell: on really specific research questions that I'm trying to overcome, 932 00:59:00,990 --> 00:59:04,050 Kurt Farrell: something that might've happened in the lab, a result that 933 00:59:04,050 --> 00:59:08,010 Kurt Farrell: I didn't expect, something I really need to just figure 934 00:59:08,010 --> 00:59:12,420 Kurt Farrell: out. Take the time to really focus my brain on 935 00:59:12,420 --> 00:59:14,760 Kurt Farrell: what's going on there. And I've had some really good 936 00:59:15,210 --> 00:59:17,850 Kurt Farrell: moments in the middle of some really long runs, and 937 00:59:17,850 --> 00:59:21,330 Kurt Farrell: particularly when I was training for the marathon, sometimes we're 938 00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:23,850 Kurt Farrell: on these long runs that are hours upon hours, and you 939 00:59:24,330 --> 00:59:26,760 Kurt Farrell: just really have some time to yourself to work through 940 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,060 Kurt Farrell: some complicated problems. And I think that's how running has 941 00:59:30,060 --> 00:59:31,650 Kurt Farrell: really helped my research career. 942 00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:34,860 Speaker 5: Pretty awesome. I vaguely remember a little bit when I 943 00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 5: was at UCLA, trying to study formulas (inaudible) runs, 944 00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:41,550 Speaker 5: you got to think, and then jot down notes, what you have memorized, 945 00:59:41,550 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 5: what you have to study more. But how has NYYR 946 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 5: shaped your running journey and sense of community in New York? 947 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,520 Kurt Farrell: Well, I really think it has brought me a better 948 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,880 Kurt Farrell: sense of community in New York, I previously spent my 949 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,790 Kurt Farrell: whole life in the state of Ohio, where I grew 950 00:59:59,790 --> 01:00:03,420 Kurt Farrell: up, where also I went to undergrad and eventually grad 951 01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:05,790 Kurt Farrell: school. So, New York is the first place I moved 952 01:00:05,790 --> 01:00:08,970 Kurt Farrell: to outside of Ohio, and it took me a minute 953 01:00:08,970 --> 01:00:12,750 Kurt Farrell: to find my place. I was enjoying my research, but 954 01:00:12,750 --> 01:00:17,040 Kurt Farrell: I needed some community engagement and involvement, and that's what 955 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,860 Kurt Farrell: the Road Runners provided me, and that's why I continue 956 01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:24,180 Kurt Farrell: to run, looking forward to many races this year. So, 957 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,110 Kurt Farrell: I'm still actively involved and it's really been a great 958 01:00:28,110 --> 01:00:29,880 Kurt Farrell: part of my community. 959 01:00:30,690 --> 01:00:34,290 Speaker 5: Well, finding your space in New York is interesting compared to 960 01:00:34,290 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 5: Ohio, but what has been your favorite memory of the TCS NYC Marathon? 961 01:00:40,170 --> 01:00:43,620 Kurt Farrell: Oh, I was one of those runners that decided to 962 01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:46,740 Kurt Farrell: print their name on their shirt, as many others do, 963 01:00:46,740 --> 01:00:50,669 Kurt Farrell: and there's just this awesome feeling of total strangers just 964 01:00:51,060 --> 01:00:53,880 Kurt Farrell: saying your name and cheering you on, especially when you're 965 01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:58,230 Kurt Farrell: reaching mile 18/20 into the Bronx, where you're just digging 966 01:00:58,230 --> 01:01:01,770 Kurt Farrell: for any little bit of gas to keep going, and 967 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,830 Kurt Farrell: that to me was the funnest part, just having random 968 01:01:04,830 --> 01:01:07,950 Kurt Farrell: strangers yell my name as I was inching closer to 969 01:01:07,950 --> 01:01:08,790 Kurt Farrell: the finish line. 970 01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:12,510 Speaker 5: Yeah, the New York Road Runners did a phenomenal job and the crowds behind 971 01:01:12,510 --> 01:01:15,660 Speaker 5: it, so we are so grateful to you, for all the work that you're 972 01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:17,580 Speaker 5: doing, Kurt, and thanks for being on the podcast. 973 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,800 Kurt Farrell: Thanks for having me so much, this has been a 974 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,720 Kurt Farrell: wonderful experience and opportunity. 975 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,390 Becs Gentry: Thank you so much for joining us, Kurt, and for 976 01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:27,540 Becs Gentry: being a member of New York Road Runners. Now, onto 977 01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:30,540 Becs Gentry: the final part of our show, a Meb Minute. 978 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,460 Meb Keflezighi: Thanks, Becs. Adapting to the weather. For those training for their first 979 01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:39,780 Meb Keflezighi: spring marathon, you may be realizing winter marathon training requires 980 01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:43,530 Meb Keflezighi: some adjustments. But with the right mindset and preparation, you 981 01:01:43,530 --> 01:01:47,001 Meb Keflezighi: can make the most of the season to get there, (inaudible) 982 01:01:47,001 --> 01:01:50,040 Meb Keflezighi: starting line. First, dress a layer, or stay warm, 983 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,120 Meb Keflezighi: but be mindful of not overheating during your runs. Moisture 984 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,650 Meb Keflezighi: wicking fabric are key. If condition are icy or snowy, 985 01:01:58,650 --> 01:02:03,090 Meb Keflezighi: consider swapping for a few outdoor runs for a treadmill 986 01:02:03,090 --> 01:02:07,530 Meb Keflezighi: session, or use a soft surface like trail to reduce 987 01:02:07,530 --> 01:02:11,160 Meb Keflezighi: the risk of injury. And don't forget the warmups and 988 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,790 Meb Keflezighi: cool down, cold muscles are more prone to injuries, so 989 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,660 Meb Keflezighi: take extra time to loosen and before heading out, for 990 01:02:18,660 --> 01:02:22,560 Meb Keflezighi: stretches afterward. Winter training can be tough, but it builds 991 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,610 Meb Keflezighi: mental toughness that will pay off on race day. You 992 01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:28,890 Meb Keflezighi: have to be able to be flexible, if it comes a 993 01:02:29,070 --> 01:02:32,700 Meb Keflezighi: really windy or icy day, it's a good time to 994 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,220 Meb Keflezighi: pass the outdoor run and change it for a treadmill. 995 01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:38,610 Becs Gentry: That does it for another episode of Set the Pace. 996 01:02:38,850 --> 01:02:42,600 Becs Gentry: Thank you to today's guest, Randi Zuckerberg and Kurt Farrell. 997 01:02:42,990 --> 01:02:45,570 Becs Gentry: If you like this episode, please go ahead and subscribe, 998 01:02:45,630 --> 01:02:48,090 Becs Gentry: rate, or leave a comment for the show on whatever 999 01:02:48,090 --> 01:02:51,540 Becs Gentry: platform you are listening on. This not only helps us, 1000 01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:54,480 Becs Gentry: but it helps others find out about the show too. 1001 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,020 Becs Gentry: Thank you so much for listening today, once again, I'm 1002 01:02:58,020 --> 01:02:59,340 Becs Gentry: Becs Gentry, take care.