1 00:00:00,180 --> 00:00:03,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Road Runners is a non- profit organization with 2 00:00:03,180 --> 00:00:06,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: a vision to build healthier lives and stronger communities through 3 00:00:06,540 --> 00:00:10,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: the transformative power of running. The support of members and 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: donors like you helps us achieve our mission to transform 5 00:00:13,860 --> 00:00:17,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: the health and well- being of our communities through inclusive 6 00:00:17,100 --> 00:00:21,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: and accessible running experiences, empowering all to achieve their potential. 7 00:00:21,810 --> 00:00:25,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: Learn more and contribute at nyrr. org/ donate. 8 00:00:29,970 --> 00:00:34,350 Speaker 2: Thank you, New York. Today, we're reminded of the power 9 00:00:34,350 --> 00:00:39,210 Speaker 2: of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on 10 00:00:39,210 --> 00:00:39,750 Speaker 2: your mark. 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,090 Reporters: The first woman to finish for the second straight year 12 00:00:45,090 --> 00:00:49,080 Reporters: here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,090 Reporters: Miki Gorman. And why not? 2: 29:30, the time for Grete Waitz. Look 14 00:00:54,090 --> 00:00:56,610 Reporters: at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes to 15 00:00:56,610 --> 00:01:00,450 Reporters: the line. Pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA, he 16 00:01:00,660 --> 00:01:04,050 Reporters: so proudly wears across his chest. A great day for 17 00:01:04,050 --> 00:01:05,009 Reporters: Matt Dupleski. 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hey everybody, and welcome to another episode of Set the 19 00:01:13,170 --> 00:01:15,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace, the official podcast of New York Road Runners. We 20 00:01:15,930 --> 00:01:19,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: are presented by Peloton. I'm your host, Rob Simmelkjaer, the 21 00:01:19,410 --> 00:01:23,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: CEO of New York Road Runners. And finally back after 22 00:01:23,490 --> 00:01:28,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: an unbelievable adventure around the world, literally, is my co- 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:35,009 Rob Simmelkjaer: host Becs Gentry. Becs, back from the Marathon World Tour. 24 00:01:35,010 --> 00:01:38,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: It was unbelievable watching you in the Great World Race, 25 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:43,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: putting on an incredible performance, seven marathons, in seven days, 26 00:01:44,069 --> 00:01:48,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: on seven continents. And Becs, I was just exhausted watching you. 27 00:01:49,710 --> 00:01:56,491 Rob Simmelkjaer: Seeing those times was mind- boggling. It was incredible. How do you feel? 28 00:01:56,491 --> 00:02:00,030 Becs Gentry: I feel great. I feel great. Even better to be 29 00:02:00,030 --> 00:02:03,540 Becs Gentry: back with you here on the podcast, ready to chat 30 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:06,360 Becs Gentry: to icons and legends of the running world with a new 31 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,669 Becs Gentry: pep in my step, that's for sure. But the body 32 00:02:08,669 --> 00:02:13,169 Becs Gentry: is as absurd, and trust me, it sounds absurd to 33 00:02:13,169 --> 00:02:15,990 Becs Gentry: me as it does to you, but my body feels 34 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:18,540 Becs Gentry: fine. It feels great. Yeah, I know. 35 00:02:19,950 --> 00:02:28,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: And it feels that way now. But as you were going through that experience, the running, the flying around 36 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: the world, how did it feel then? Did you feel 37 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:34,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: pretty good throughout? Or were there moments where you were 38 00:02:34,260 --> 00:02:36,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: just like, I don't think I can do this? 39 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:40,709 Becs Gentry: There was probably only one point that I thought, oh, 40 00:02:40,710 --> 00:02:44,190 Becs Gentry: this might be the end of my journey. And we'll 41 00:02:44,190 --> 00:02:48,120 Becs Gentry: talk more about that in our special episode coming up 42 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,420 Becs Gentry: in a week or so. 43 00:02:48,420 --> 00:02:54,389 Rob Simmelkjaer: That was a great tease by the way, Becs. Phenomenal tease. As she said, we are 44 00:02:54,389 --> 00:02:56,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: going to have a special episode, where we're going to 45 00:02:56,910 --> 00:02:59,668 Rob Simmelkjaer: hear all the amazing detail- 46 00:02:59,669 --> 00:02:59,670 Becs Gentry: All the details. 47 00:02:59,670 --> 00:03:03,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... about Becs' journey around the world, and the Great World Race. 48 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:03,330 Becs Gentry: Yep. 49 00:03:03,570 --> 00:03:08,221 Rob Simmelkjaer: Seven marathons, seven days, seven continents. That's next week. 50 00:03:08,221 --> 00:03:08,222 Becs Gentry: Oh, yeah. That is next week. 51 00:03:08,222 --> 00:03:11,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: And we can't wait to hear all the juicy details, the ups and 52 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,359 Rob Simmelkjaer: the downs. 53 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,240 Becs Gentry: Exactly. So we'll talk more about that. But just rest 54 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,669 Becs Gentry: assured, there was definitely a moment where I was like, 55 00:03:17,669 --> 00:03:22,980 Becs Gentry: and this could be the tap out moment. But weirdly, 56 00:03:23,130 --> 00:03:26,310 Becs Gentry: a lot of the time, I felt really good. And 57 00:03:26,430 --> 00:03:30,330 Becs Gentry: again, something I'll talk about in the episode, is what 58 00:03:30,330 --> 00:03:33,060 Becs Gentry: I've come to realize. And funnily enough, I was just 59 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:35,340 Becs Gentry: chatting with Erin Feeney last night about this- 60 00:03:36,540 --> 00:03:36,706 Rob Simmelkjaer: From New York Road Runners. Yep. 61 00:03:36,706 --> 00:03:40,920 Becs Gentry: From New York Road Runners, our wonderful Erin. The training. 62 00:03:41,310 --> 00:03:43,350 Becs Gentry: It was the training. And I think at points in 63 00:03:43,350 --> 00:03:50,220 Becs Gentry: the training, I actually felt more exhausted, and sore, and 64 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,540 Becs Gentry: ugh about it. And then in hindsight, now I'm like, 65 00:03:54,690 --> 00:03:58,710 Becs Gentry: oh, that was so worth it, because for those seven 66 00:03:58,710 --> 00:04:02,760 Becs Gentry: days, I barely felt that. So yeah, we'll deep dive 67 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,779 Becs Gentry: into it, Rob. But safe to say that she's back, 68 00:04:06,780 --> 00:04:09,270 Becs Gentry: she's been running. I've been running. I think I went 69 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:12,000 Becs Gentry: for a run like four days after the race. And 70 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,270 Becs Gentry: I've only been doing about 30 minutes max, and it 71 00:04:15,270 --> 00:04:15,720 Becs Gentry: feels great. 72 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,161 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, congratulations. 73 00:04:17,161 --> 00:04:18,451 Becs Gentry: Thank you. 74 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:22,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: We are so proud of you. I was so proud seeing your 75 00:04:22,170 --> 00:04:26,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: performances, your times, which were incredible. And I can't wait 76 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:29,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: to have our deep dive conversation about your performance next 77 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:32,221 Rob Simmelkjaer: week. So there's your tease, save it. 78 00:04:32,221 --> 00:04:32,431 Becs Gentry: Yay. 79 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: Make sure you tune in for next week's episode to 80 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:38,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: Set the Pace, where Becs will give us everything we 81 00:04:38,580 --> 00:04:41,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: all want to know about this incredible performance that she 82 00:04:41,460 --> 00:04:44,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: had around the world. Well, closer to home, Becs, we've 83 00:04:44,970 --> 00:04:48,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: got some racing returning to New York this weekend. Saturday, 84 00:04:48,930 --> 00:04:51,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: December 7th we've got one of the favorite races on 85 00:04:51,930 --> 00:04:56,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: our calendar, the Ted Corbett 15K in Central Park. I 86 00:04:56,430 --> 00:04:58,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: am excited about that one. I'm going to make a 87 00:04:58,650 --> 00:05:02,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: return to running. I haven't done too, too much lately. 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: I had a Turkey Trot that I decided to skip 89 00:05:04,740 --> 00:05:09,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: on Thanksgiving Day, because it was just miserable weather in 90 00:05:09,150 --> 00:05:11,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: Connecticut, as it was for most of the Tri- State 91 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: area, pouring rain, cold. So I tapped out, basically never 92 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: left my bed on Thanksgiving morning. I gave myself permission. 93 00:05:21,180 --> 00:05:22,529 Rob Simmelkjaer: But I'm going to get back out there for the 94 00:05:22,529 --> 00:05:25,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: Ted Corbett 15K on Saturday of this week. And I'm 95 00:05:25,830 --> 00:05:29,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: excited to do that, to celebrate the incredible legacy of 96 00:05:29,430 --> 00:05:33,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: Ted Corbett, Founder of New York Road Runners, first President 97 00:05:33,270 --> 00:05:36,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: of this organization, and someone who really has a legendary 98 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:40,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: stature in the sport, the Father of American Distance Running, 99 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:42,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: as he was called. So make sure you get out 100 00:05:42,570 --> 00:05:44,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: there. If you're not running it, and the weather is 101 00:05:44,940 --> 00:05:48,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: decent, hopefully, come out, cheer people on. It's a special 102 00:05:48,029 --> 00:05:51,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: race in our Road Runners calendar, and can't wait to 103 00:05:51,060 --> 00:05:52,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: see everybody out there. 104 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:56,610 Becs Gentry: Amazing. I'll be cheering you guys on. If I wasn't 105 00:05:56,610 --> 00:06:00,659 Becs Gentry: teaching 10 o'clock, I would absolutely be there. This is 106 00:06:00,660 --> 00:06:04,440 Becs Gentry: one of my race bucket lists. So if it was a 7: 107 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,200 Becs Gentry: 00 AM start, you guys, I'd be there. But I don't 108 00:06:07,380 --> 00:06:10,380 Becs Gentry: know whether I could do 15K in an hour, and 109 00:06:10,380 --> 00:06:13,110 Becs Gentry: get to Peloton Studios. So I'll be cheering you on 110 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:16,650 Becs Gentry: from the tread. Ready to elevate your running. 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Terms 120 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:54,510 Becs Gentry: apply. Find your push, find your power at onepeloton. com/ race- 121 00:06:55,260 --> 00:07:00,120 Becs Gentry: training. All access membership separate. Peloton, the official digital fitness 122 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,740 Becs Gentry: partner for New York Road Runners. 123 00:07:02,220 --> 00:07:04,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: So what do you get when you mix sharp wit, 124 00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:08,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: bestselling books, and a newfound love of marathon running? You 125 00:07:08,580 --> 00:07:12,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: get Phoebe Robinson. She is the comedian, the writer, and an 126 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: actress who you might know from the show, Two Dope 127 00:07:15,390 --> 00:07:18,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: Queens. But did you know she's also a two- time 128 00:07:18,630 --> 00:07:22,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: marathoner? How and why did Phoebe progress from running her 129 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: first ever 5K, to finishing Boston and New York all 130 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: within a year and a half's time? Stick around to 131 00:07:29,850 --> 00:07:32,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: find out, as she will be our featured guest today 132 00:07:32,910 --> 00:07:35,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: on Set the Pace. And then much like Phoebe, today's 133 00:07:35,550 --> 00:07:39,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: member of the week had a remarkable marathon trajectory. Scotty 134 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:43,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: Nelson ran his first ever marathon in October of 2023. 135 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:48,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: And then, just four months later, found himself competing in 136 00:07:48,030 --> 00:07:53,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: the US Olympic Marathon trials. Scotty's Marathon success keeps on 137 00:07:53,190 --> 00:07:58,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: coming, including at the 2024 TCS New York City Marathon, where he 138 00:07:58,260 --> 00:08:03,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: was the top front-runners finisher and 33rd overall. Scotty will 139 00:08:03,660 --> 00:08:07,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: be here with Meb for today's member moment. And it's 140 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:11,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: been four weeks since the 2024 TCS New York City Marathon, 141 00:08:11,550 --> 00:08:14,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: and we're still telling stories about that incredible day, still 142 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:17,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: celebrating our runners, and already here at Runners, deep in 143 00:08:17,970 --> 00:08:22,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: planning for 2025. But if you ran this year, along 144 00:08:22,470 --> 00:08:25,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: with an incredible sense of accomplishment, you might be experiencing 145 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:28,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: some of those post marathon blues. It happens to the 146 00:08:28,770 --> 00:08:31,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: best of us. Today's Meb minute, Meb will be talking 147 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: about how to get past those post marathon doldrums that 148 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: some of us experience. That's coming up a little bit later. 149 00:08:38,610 --> 00:08:41,790 Becs Gentry: Growing a business means a lot of audience attracting, a 150 00:08:41,790 --> 00:08:44,490 Becs Gentry: lot of lead scoring, and a lot of long days. 151 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:47,700 Becs Gentry: But with HubSpot, it's easier than ever for marketers to 152 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:51,510 Becs Gentry: boost leads and score customers fast, which means pretty soon 153 00:08:51,630 --> 00:08:56,550 Becs Gentry: your company will have a lot to celebrate. Visit hubspot. com/ 154 00:08:57,030 --> 00:08:58,559 Becs Gentry: marketers to learn more. 155 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:03,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: Today's guest, Phoebe Robinson, is a true Renaissance woman. She's 156 00:09:03,450 --> 00:09:08,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: a comedian, actor, producer, podcaster, and now she is also 157 00:09:08,190 --> 00:09:11,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: a marathoner. You might know her sharp humor from Two 158 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dope Queens, and her New York Times bestselling books, like 159 00:09:14,820 --> 00:09:18,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: You Can't Touch My Hair and Everything's Trash, But It's 160 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: Okay. But this past year, Phoebe added runner to her ever- 161 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: growing list of titles, completing her first half- marathon last 162 00:09:26,250 --> 00:09:29,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: January, and then running both the Boston and New York 163 00:09:29,190 --> 00:09:32,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: City marathons before the year was out. She's now working 164 00:09:32,340 --> 00:09:35,010 Rob Simmelkjaer: on a new book and a new marathon. So we 165 00:09:35,010 --> 00:09:38,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: got a lot to talk about with the incredible Phoebe 166 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: Robinson. Phoebe Robinson, it is so great to meet you. 167 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: Welcome to Set the Pace. 168 00:09:43,950 --> 00:09:46,980 Phoebe Robinson: Thanks for having me here. I'm so excited. 169 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: So this is our first time meeting and I've read 170 00:09:50,850 --> 00:09:54,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: so much about you. You're incredible. You do so many 171 00:09:54,300 --> 00:09:58,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: things. You're a comedian, you are an actress, you are 172 00:09:58,620 --> 00:10:02,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: a podcaster. You have such an amazing following of people 173 00:10:02,910 --> 00:10:05,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: who love you, including Michelle Obama, which is pretty impressive. 174 00:10:06,179 --> 00:10:06,240 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, casual. 175 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: But how unbelievable. So yeah, a little flex for you 176 00:10:10,170 --> 00:10:13,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: right there. But I'm just curious, with all that going 177 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:17,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: on, how did running get in the mix of Phoebe 178 00:10:17,850 --> 00:10:18,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: Robinson's life? 179 00:10:19,470 --> 00:10:24,510 Phoebe Robinson: Oh, yeah. I've always tried to run in the past, and I had no 180 00:10:24,510 --> 00:10:26,370 Phoebe Robinson: idea what I was doing. I obviously didn't have the 181 00:10:26,370 --> 00:10:29,370 Phoebe Robinson: right shoes. I would just throw on whatever gym shoes 182 00:10:29,370 --> 00:10:32,520 Phoebe Robinson: I have, and go run super hard. And then we'd 183 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,849 Phoebe Robinson: get shin splits, and be like, " Oh, running's trash." I 184 00:10:35,849 --> 00:10:40,740 Phoebe Robinson: just was like, "Running's the issue, not me." But I live 185 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:43,829 Phoebe Robinson: in Brooklyn, and I would always just see people running 186 00:10:43,830 --> 00:10:45,870 Phoebe Robinson: around Prospect Park. And I was just like, " I want 187 00:10:45,870 --> 00:10:49,620 Phoebe Robinson: to be one of those people who's just trotting around and doing whatever." And 188 00:10:49,620 --> 00:10:53,880 Phoebe Robinson: when I broke up with my ex in 2022, he's 189 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,500 Phoebe Robinson: a great person, but you know how when you're in a 190 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:59,429 Phoebe Robinson: relationship, you feel like you're just not allowing yourself to 191 00:10:59,429 --> 00:11:03,270 Phoebe Robinson: be your fullest self, or try things? And I was 192 00:11:03,270 --> 00:11:09,150 Phoebe Robinson: just like, " Why don't we... I've been working out. I got the 193 00:11:09,150 --> 00:11:12,300 Phoebe Robinson: Peloton. I do the classes and stuff. Maybe I could 194 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:14,760 Phoebe Robinson: do a 5K. Maybe I could run." And so I just 195 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:22,020 Phoebe Robinson: started taking walk run classes last February. So I would 196 00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:25,020 Phoebe Robinson: do that, and I would do Nike Run Club, and I would run outside. And 197 00:11:25,020 --> 00:11:27,059 Phoebe Robinson: I was like, " Okay, I could do a 5K." So then 198 00:11:27,059 --> 00:11:30,750 Phoebe Robinson: I did a 5K. " All right, I'll do another one." " Maybe 199 00:11:30,750 --> 00:11:33,540 Phoebe Robinson: I want to do a 10K." So sort of progressed from there. And 200 00:11:33,540 --> 00:11:38,700 Phoebe Robinson: then I ran the Boston Marathon this year for charity. 201 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:43,800 Phoebe Robinson: I'm on the advisory board for Bono's nonprofit, Red. And 202 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,470 Phoebe Robinson: they had just asked me on my birthday, which, when 203 00:11:46,620 --> 00:11:50,670 Phoebe Robinson: you're on your birthday, you're feeling good. You're like, " Okay, yes, what's up? What's up?" And 204 00:11:50,670 --> 00:11:52,800 Phoebe Robinson: they're like, " Would you want to run the Boston Marathon 205 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,290 Phoebe Robinson: for us?" And I was like, " Sure, I can do it." I can do- 206 00:11:55,290 --> 00:11:59,131 Rob Simmelkjaer: Of course, no problem. 207 00:11:59,131 --> 00:12:03,809 Phoebe Robinson: ... yeah, the hardest marathon. And I don't know, I've 208 00:12:03,809 --> 00:12:06,150 Phoebe Robinson: just fallen in love with it. I think running is 209 00:12:06,150 --> 00:12:12,179 Phoebe Robinson: so therapeutic. It's obviously great for your body. And I 210 00:12:12,179 --> 00:12:16,740 Phoebe Robinson: don't know, just for me, I think because I do 211 00:12:16,740 --> 00:12:21,510 Phoebe Robinson: a lot of things professionally, and I tend to monetize 212 00:12:21,510 --> 00:12:25,650 Phoebe Robinson: the things that bring me joy, whether it's hosting, or 213 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,370 Phoebe Robinson: stand up, or podcasting, or writing. And this just felt 214 00:12:29,370 --> 00:12:32,189 Phoebe Robinson: like a thing that I could just do for fun, 215 00:12:32,220 --> 00:12:36,240 Phoebe Robinson: that was not for any other reason than just pleasure 216 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,020 Phoebe Robinson: and challenging myself. Every run feels different. So it always 217 00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:42,720 Phoebe Robinson: is exciting and a good challenge. Yeah. 218 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,150 Becs Gentry: I love that. I love... Selfishly, I adore that you 219 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:52,920 Becs Gentry: started with Peloton. I know that Jeffrey, our wonderful Jeffrey 220 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,890 Becs Gentry: McEachern, is one of your go- tos. And you have 221 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:59,460 Becs Gentry: partnered up with Jeffrey and Red a couple of times 222 00:12:59,490 --> 00:13:02,580 Becs Gentry: now. I was so upset I didn't get to meet 223 00:13:02,580 --> 00:13:04,770 Becs Gentry: you. I got to meet your amazing mom and dad 224 00:13:04,770 --> 00:13:08,910 Becs Gentry: though in the Peloton, New York studios, around New York 225 00:13:08,910 --> 00:13:12,809 Becs Gentry: Marathon weekend. You were here recording something with Jeffrey, which 226 00:13:12,809 --> 00:13:17,340 Becs Gentry: has just dropped. And it's just been so inspirational to 227 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:19,890 Becs Gentry: watch you. I look out for you. I live in 228 00:13:19,890 --> 00:13:21,479 Becs Gentry: Brooklyn as well, so I look out for you when 229 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,260 Becs Gentry: I run. And I just, from seeing, as you say, 230 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:31,350 Becs Gentry: 5K to marathon, to Boston, New York, you've got Tokyo 231 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:33,179 Becs Gentry: on the cards- 232 00:13:33,179 --> 00:13:33,270 Phoebe Robinson: Yes. 233 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,090 Becs Gentry: Which is so soon. It's so soon/ 234 00:13:36,090 --> 00:13:38,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'll be there too. I'll be there too, Phoebe, a 235 00:13:38,610 --> 00:13:41,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: hundred percent. Definitely will be there. Don't know if I'm running yet, 236 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:42,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: but I'll be there in- person. 237 00:13:42,390 --> 00:13:43,470 Becs Gentry: Oh, my gosh, Rob. I was like, what? 238 00:13:43,470 --> 00:13:44,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: So can't wait. 239 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Phoebe Robinson: You go to figure it out. 240 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,621 Rob Simmelkjaer: Can't talk about talk about that yet. Not talk about that yet. 241 00:13:46,621 --> 00:13:50,220 Phoebe Robinson: It's in 90 days. You got to figure it out. 242 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:54,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: I know. That's another conversation. We'll talk about that. But I will 243 00:13:54,179 --> 00:13:56,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: definitely be in Tokyo, and I can't wait to root you 244 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,689 Rob Simmelkjaer: on, Phoebe. It's going to be amazing. 245 00:13:57,689 --> 00:13:59,429 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh, it's going to be so much fun. 246 00:13:59,429 --> 00:13:59,609 Phoebe Robinson: Thank you. 247 00:13:59,610 --> 00:14:03,690 Becs Gentry: How are you feeling though? Training for Boston is obviously 248 00:14:03,690 --> 00:14:06,809 Becs Gentry: through the East Coast winter. So you've done that, which is 249 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:08,940 Becs Gentry: a lot of people's daunting task- 250 00:14:08,940 --> 00:14:08,941 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah. 251 00:14:08,941 --> 00:14:13,350 Becs Gentry: But how are you feeling about getting ready for this hugely international 252 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:16,320 Becs Gentry: race? I mean, I did it this year. It's a long way 253 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,160 Becs Gentry: to go to run a race. 254 00:14:17,309 --> 00:14:20,760 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, yeah. No, I'm excited. I do feel like, for 255 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:26,310 Phoebe Robinson: training for New York, I over trained and under stretched 256 00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:28,800 Phoebe Robinson: in recovery. So I did actually have to deal with 257 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,860 Phoebe Robinson: shin splints during the training process- 258 00:14:32,850 --> 00:14:32,851 Becs Gentry: Oh, I'm sorry. 259 00:14:32,851 --> 00:14:34,770 Phoebe Robinson: ... leading up to it. And so the race was not the race I wanted to 260 00:14:34,770 --> 00:14:39,360 Phoebe Robinson: run. But that made me go, okay, you have to be very mindful 261 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,180 Phoebe Robinson: of, you got to do your mobility stretches every day. 262 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:45,450 Phoebe Robinson: You got to just really, really set aside the time 263 00:14:45,450 --> 00:14:49,680 Phoebe Robinson: to... I'm not a spring chicken. I'm 40. So you 264 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,810 Phoebe Robinson: just have to put more into recovery at this age, 265 00:14:51,810 --> 00:14:54,450 Phoebe Robinson: and that's just what it is. And I've never been 266 00:14:54,450 --> 00:14:57,450 Phoebe Robinson: to Tokyo, and I'm really excited. And I have friends 267 00:14:57,450 --> 00:14:59,370 Phoebe Robinson: who've been, and they said I'm going to love it. 268 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,890 Phoebe Robinson: So I'm little, I think you get a little intimidated 269 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:08,040 Phoebe Robinson: before every race, where you're just like, " Wow, okay, I'm 270 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,700 Phoebe Robinson: doing this again." And this is different and I got 271 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:16,500 Phoebe Robinson: to make sure I'm mentally ready for it. But I'm 272 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:17,730 Phoebe Robinson: just sort of like, I'm just going to put in 273 00:15:17,730 --> 00:15:20,520 Phoebe Robinson: the work every day, and I'm going to show up 274 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,820 Phoebe Robinson: and have the best race I can possibly have. And 275 00:15:24,810 --> 00:15:27,240 Phoebe Robinson: yeah, and eat. I'm just going to eat so much. 276 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:27,271 Becs Gentry: Oh my God. 277 00:15:27,271 --> 00:15:27,272 Phoebe Robinson: Once I'm done. 278 00:15:27,272 --> 00:15:27,331 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, hundred percent. 279 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,370 Becs Gentry: I will send you both all of my recommendations for 280 00:15:35,370 --> 00:15:39,300 Becs Gentry: it. But I love that vibe, that the nerves, I 281 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,820 Becs Gentry: always say to people, means you care about it. So 282 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:47,340 Becs Gentry: feeling the apprehension before your third major that you're about to go 283 00:15:47,340 --> 00:15:51,390 Becs Gentry: into is, it's correct. It's right. It would be kind 284 00:15:51,390 --> 00:15:56,520 Becs Gentry: of weird if you weren't nervous about it. And I 285 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:02,729 Becs Gentry: will say, I can think of no better anecdotes from 286 00:16:02,850 --> 00:16:06,780 Becs Gentry: your other roles, the other hats that Phoebe wears, than 287 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:12,180 Becs Gentry: what you are going to get from the travel, the race, and experiencing 288 00:16:12,330 --> 00:16:15,510 Becs Gentry: Tokyo. Because I feel like you're going to have so 289 00:16:15,510 --> 00:16:21,420 Becs Gentry: much ammo for your other things. But it's so exciting. 290 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:25,020 Becs Gentry: And I think, for people to look at you, as 291 00:16:25,020 --> 00:16:28,740 Becs Gentry: you said, you're 40 years old, so we're a similar 292 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:33,630 Becs Gentry: age. And I think women, especially, aspire to hear these 293 00:16:33,630 --> 00:16:39,479 Becs Gentry: stories of growing in strength, growing in ability, and confidence 294 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,850 Becs Gentry: in our bodies as we get older, instead of the 295 00:16:41,850 --> 00:16:45,630 Becs Gentry: vice versa, which has been the narrative for so long. So 296 00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:48,540 Becs Gentry: can you talk to me about, you've mentioned recovery has 297 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:50,850 Becs Gentry: been a huge thing. And on Set the Pace, we 298 00:16:50,850 --> 00:16:54,060 Becs Gentry: talk a lot about running, obviously, but we don't often 299 00:16:54,060 --> 00:16:57,120 Becs Gentry: have somebody talk to us about what they've had to 300 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:02,430 Becs Gentry: do to supplement their running with recovery. So what's your go- to? 301 00:17:03,150 --> 00:17:06,750 Phoebe Robinson: My go- to is, every day I start my workouts 302 00:17:06,750 --> 00:17:12,390 Phoebe Robinson: with 20 minutes of mobility. And then, just because I've 303 00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:15,030 Phoebe Robinson: never particularly been the most flexible person, and I sit 304 00:17:15,030 --> 00:17:16,649 Phoebe Robinson: at my desk a lot, because I write, and so 305 00:17:16,650 --> 00:17:18,540 Phoebe Robinson: I do a hunch, I do a lot of that. And so 306 00:17:19,770 --> 00:17:23,310 Phoebe Robinson: I don't want every massage or physical therapy session to 307 00:17:23,310 --> 00:17:25,980 Phoebe Robinson: be like, "Oh, oh, oh, ow, ow, ow." So I do them with 308 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,950 Phoebe Robinson: mobility. And then, if I'm doing strength training, I'll do a 10- 309 00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:32,460 Phoebe Robinson: minute warm up, then I'll get into it. And then 310 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Phoebe Robinson: I'll do 15, 20 minutes of stretching at the end. And 311 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,580 Phoebe Robinson: then on the running days, I'll tack on a little 20- 312 00:17:41,970 --> 00:17:43,740 Phoebe Robinson: minute magnesium soak. 313 00:17:44,010 --> 00:17:44,160 Becs Gentry: Ooh. 314 00:17:44,820 --> 00:17:47,490 Phoebe Robinson: And then on days, if I'm really... Once I start doing my 315 00:17:47,490 --> 00:17:50,550 Phoebe Robinson: super long run days, and I have my compression boots, 316 00:17:50,550 --> 00:17:53,250 Phoebe Robinson: so I'll just sit in my living room, put those 317 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:57,119 Phoebe Robinson: on. So yeah, it's very time- consuming, but I'm also 318 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,140 Phoebe Robinson: like, I like being able to not... I'm not stiff, 319 00:18:01,140 --> 00:18:03,510 Phoebe Robinson: I'm not really sore. I'm just like, I wake up 320 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:05,580 Phoebe Robinson: in the morning, I feel like pretty good, and I 321 00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:09,270 Phoebe Robinson: think that is because I'm really putting that effort back 322 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:14,369 Phoebe Robinson: into my body after I do all this intense work. Yeah. 323 00:18:14,369 --> 00:18:15,119 Becs Gentry: Love that. Yeah. 324 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,139 Rob Simmelkjaer: So Phoebe, for those who listen to the podcast who maybe 325 00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:24,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: don't know you, don't follow, you don't watch Two Dope Queens, 326 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: who's Phoebe Robinson? How did you get to be who 327 00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:32,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: you are? What's your origin story? 328 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:40,109 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, I'm from Cleveland, Ohio. And I was just like, I 329 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,460 Phoebe Robinson: always wanted to do something in Hollywood, but I wasn't 330 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:48,419 Phoebe Robinson: sure yet. And I remember that show Felicity, and I 331 00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:50,520 Phoebe Robinson: was like, " I am going to be her. I'm going 332 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,380 Phoebe Robinson: to move to New York and I'm going to have 333 00:18:52,380 --> 00:18:58,619 Phoebe Robinson: cute boys fighting over me." That didn't happen, but I studied. 334 00:18:58,619 --> 00:18:59,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, yeah. 335 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:06,960 Phoebe Robinson: There's still time. But yeah, I went to Pratt Institute, 336 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,340 Phoebe Robinson: I studied writing. And when I graduated, I just was 337 00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:15,000 Phoebe Robinson: sort of like, I knew I wanted to stay in New York, 338 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,708 Phoebe Robinson: but I was just like, " Oh, I don't know what 339 00:19:16,709 --> 00:19:19,500 Phoebe Robinson: I want to do." So then I worked at New 340 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:22,440 Phoebe Robinson: Line Cinema Picture House. I was doing sort of admin 341 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,270 Phoebe Robinson: stuff, and I just didn't really like being in an 342 00:19:24,270 --> 00:19:29,070 Phoebe Robinson: office every day. I just sort of felt as though it wasn't my 343 00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:32,970 Phoebe Robinson: jam. In 2008, my friend Lindsay wanted to take a 344 00:19:32,970 --> 00:19:35,490 Phoebe Robinson: standup class at Carolines, which is no more, but I 345 00:19:35,490 --> 00:19:36,420 Phoebe Robinson: think they're bringing it back. 346 00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:38,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: Famous comedy club in New York City, Carolines. 347 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,000 Phoebe Robinson: Yes. 348 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:39,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: Absolutely. 349 00:19:39,570 --> 00:19:41,910 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah. And she didn't want to take it by herself, 350 00:19:41,910 --> 00:19:46,080 Phoebe Robinson: and I was just like, " This is lame." I was like, " 351 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,180 Phoebe Robinson: Who wants to do standup?" I was like, " This isn't 352 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:53,910 Phoebe Robinson: a job, whatever." And then I immediately fell in love 353 00:19:53,910 --> 00:19:57,330 Phoebe Robinson: with it, just sort of trying to figure out the 354 00:19:57,330 --> 00:20:00,000 Phoebe Robinson: craft of how to construct a joke, and make people 355 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,619 Phoebe Robinson: laugh. And so I did that July 2008 when I 356 00:20:04,619 --> 00:20:09,180 Phoebe Robinson: took that class. And in October 2008, the indie film 357 00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:11,640 Phoebe Robinson: company I was working at folded. And I was like, " 358 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,190 Phoebe Robinson: That is a sign from the universe. I'm really meant 359 00:20:14,190 --> 00:20:18,359 Phoebe Robinson: to focus on standup." So I would just get these 360 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,920 Phoebe Robinson: whatever day jobs. I was assistant for five years, temping, 361 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,340 Phoebe Robinson: whatever. And then at night I was trying to get 362 00:20:26,340 --> 00:20:28,950 Phoebe Robinson: on stage anywhere. I was going to Staten Island, doing 363 00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:35,100 Phoebe Robinson: standup and biker bars. I hosted a standup show in 364 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:39,030 Phoebe Robinson: an Irish pub during Monday Night Football. And I just had 365 00:20:39,150 --> 00:20:41,760 Phoebe Robinson: a little microphone, a little amp, and I was just 366 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,650 Phoebe Robinson: in the corner booth just telling jokes. I just was, I 367 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:49,980 Phoebe Robinson: had that hustle, I had that drive, I really loved 368 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:53,520 Phoebe Robinson: it. And then out that bloomed, I met Jessica Williams, 369 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,940 Phoebe Robinson: and we started doing Two Dope Queens. And I wrote 370 00:20:56,940 --> 00:20:58,800 Phoebe Robinson: my first book, and now I have a book in 371 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,619 Phoebe Robinson: print. So I just feel like I just kind of 372 00:21:01,619 --> 00:21:06,210 Phoebe Robinson: say yes to these things that, maybe they scare me, 373 00:21:06,210 --> 00:21:09,510 Phoebe Robinson: or maybe they feel like huge endeavors at first. And 374 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:13,020 Phoebe Robinson: I just kind of go, " Well, let's see what can 375 00:21:13,020 --> 00:21:16,830 Phoebe Robinson: happen. Maybe this will turn out well." And then, for 376 00:21:16,830 --> 00:21:19,590 Phoebe Robinson: the most part it has. Obviously, I have failures like 377 00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:22,170 Phoebe Robinson: everyone else, but I think on the whole, I think 378 00:21:22,170 --> 00:21:26,159 Phoebe Robinson: trusting myself and betting on myself has worked out so far. 379 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,189 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love what you just said about saying yes, Phoebe, 380 00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:33,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: because I talk a lot about the power of saying 381 00:21:33,060 --> 00:21:36,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: yes. I talk to my daughters about that. I have 382 00:21:36,330 --> 00:21:38,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: one daughter who loves to say yes to everything, one 383 00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:42,119 Rob Simmelkjaer: who loves to say no to everything. And I always talk 384 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,359 Rob Simmelkjaer: about the things that can happen when you do say 385 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: yes, the possibilities that you open up by saying yes. 386 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: And it sounds like that's been a big part of 387 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: your success. And I feel like there's also even a 388 00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:57,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: tie in with running to that. Right? You say yes 389 00:21:57,570 --> 00:22:01,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: to the challenge, Becs said yes when someone asked her 390 00:22:01,740 --> 00:22:03,929 Rob Simmelkjaer: the insane question of, " Would you like to run on 391 00:22:03,930 --> 00:22:08,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: seven continents in seven days, seven marathons?" She said yes, 392 00:22:08,250 --> 00:22:10,649 Rob Simmelkjaer: and look at her now. Right? So I mean, things 393 00:22:10,650 --> 00:22:11,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: happen when you say yes. 394 00:22:12,330 --> 00:22:17,760 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, and it's also like, you surprise yourself. Because, usually, 395 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,770 Phoebe Robinson: what ends up happening is you go, " Oh, I can 396 00:22:19,770 --> 00:22:23,280 Phoebe Robinson: handle more than I thought I could going into XYZ, 397 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,919 Phoebe Robinson: whether it's a marathon, whether it's a work thing, whether 398 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,280 Phoebe Robinson: it's a relationship, what have you. And so all it 399 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,070 Phoebe Robinson: does is just give you more data to just believe 400 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:35,820 Phoebe Robinson: in yourself, and go, " Well, I can look at all 401 00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:38,760 Phoebe Robinson: these different situations I've been through, and I've come out 402 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,340 Phoebe Robinson: stronger the other side, even if it hasn't gone my 403 00:22:41,340 --> 00:22:47,310 Phoebe Robinson: way." So me denying myself the opportunity to at least 404 00:22:47,310 --> 00:22:49,350 Phoebe Robinson: try just doesn't make sense. I might as well just 405 00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:50,670 Phoebe Robinson: go for it and see what happens. 406 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,810 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh, I love that. And with that, I 407 00:22:54,810 --> 00:22:57,990 Becs Gentry: am not going to deny my members the opportunity to 408 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,619 Becs Gentry: see me in class in 25 minutes, so I'm going 409 00:23:01,619 --> 00:23:04,380 Becs Gentry: to sign off. And Phoebe, it's been such a pleasure 410 00:23:04,380 --> 00:23:06,179 Becs Gentry: to talk to you. And thank you for everything that 411 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:08,520 Becs Gentry: you've done with us at Peloton, and everything you do 412 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,790 Becs Gentry: for Red and beyond. I'm going to be watching a 413 00:23:11,790 --> 00:23:15,119 Becs Gentry: lot more Two Dope Queens, because now, then I can 414 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,311 Becs Gentry: just make sure I shout at you if I see you in Brooklyn. 415 00:23:17,311 --> 00:23:17,369 Phoebe Robinson: Yes, please do. 416 00:23:20,430 --> 00:23:22,710 Becs Gentry: I'm going to leave you in the lovely hands of 417 00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:25,230 Becs Gentry: Rob here, but it was a pleasure, and I'm going to be 418 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:26,251 Becs Gentry: cheering you on in Tokyo so hard. 419 00:23:26,251 --> 00:23:26,252 Phoebe Robinson: Oh, thank you so much. It was so great to meet you. I'm so excited. 420 00:23:26,252 --> 00:23:26,253 Becs Gentry: Take care. 421 00:23:26,253 --> 00:23:36,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, so Phoebe, for folks who haven't watched it, Two Dope 422 00:23:36,090 --> 00:23:39,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: Queens, been around for a while now, right? It's been 423 00:23:39,150 --> 00:23:42,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: very successful. What is it? What do you get out 424 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,168 Rob Simmelkjaer: of watching that show? 425 00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:49,050 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, it's super fun. I started with Jessica Williams, and 426 00:23:49,050 --> 00:23:54,480 Phoebe Robinson: we started just doing live shows in New York. Because 427 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,980 Phoebe Robinson: we just sort of felt, we would see all these 428 00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:58,680 Phoebe Robinson: late night shows, and they would just typically have just 429 00:23:58,890 --> 00:24:02,280 Phoebe Robinson: straight white dudes on as standup comics. And we both felt, 430 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,310 Phoebe Robinson: well, we see tons of all kinds of people doing 431 00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:08,340 Phoebe Robinson: standup who are brilliant, and so we just started the 432 00:24:08,340 --> 00:24:13,169 Phoebe Robinson: show at UCB East, which also closed. I feel like maybe 433 00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:18,150 Phoebe Robinson: I'm the bad luck here with these venues. But we 434 00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:21,810 Phoebe Robinson: had so much fun, and we were like, " Well, maybe 435 00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:25,020 Phoebe Robinson: we could turn this into a podcast." And she sort 436 00:24:25,020 --> 00:24:28,080 Phoebe Robinson: of had a relationship with WNYC, because I think she 437 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,560 Phoebe Robinson: had done a couple of their shows. And so we 438 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,409 Phoebe Robinson: all sat down, and we had lunch, we invited them 439 00:24:34,410 --> 00:24:36,090 Phoebe Robinson: to a show, and we're like, " This is what Two 440 00:24:36,090 --> 00:24:39,149 Phoebe Robinson: Dope Queens is. This is a variety show. Jess and I riffing, 441 00:24:39,150 --> 00:24:43,439 Phoebe Robinson: and having other comics come on and do standup." And 442 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,010 Phoebe Robinson: they just immediately got it and had so much fun 443 00:24:47,010 --> 00:24:48,929 Phoebe Robinson: with it. And so we were off to the races, and 444 00:24:48,930 --> 00:24:54,300 Phoebe Robinson: just taping shows, and doing comedy festivals. And then, obviously, 445 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:58,290 Phoebe Robinson: for us, the biggest feather in our cap was when 446 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,800 Phoebe Robinson: Michelle Obama was having her book come out, and she 447 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,040 Phoebe Robinson: asked us to be the one piece of non- traditional 448 00:25:06,060 --> 00:25:09,900 Phoebe Robinson: media interview that she would do. And it was nuts. 449 00:25:10,170 --> 00:25:11,910 Phoebe Robinson: We got on a train, we went to DC, we went 450 00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:15,990 Phoebe Robinson: to her office. And you're just like, okay. We got 451 00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:19,109 Phoebe Robinson: the book like four days before. So I was reading, 452 00:25:19,109 --> 00:25:23,669 Phoebe Robinson: highlighting, making my notes, and questions, and everything. And it 453 00:25:23,670 --> 00:25:26,070 Phoebe Robinson: was just such a treat, such a thrill. And then 454 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:32,280 Phoebe Robinson: eventually parlayed it into eight specials on HBO. So it 455 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,780 Phoebe Robinson: lives on Max. And I'm just so proud of it, 456 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,570 Phoebe Robinson: not only just the caliber of people we have on, 457 00:25:39,570 --> 00:25:42,689 Phoebe Robinson: whether it's Bowen Yang or Michelle Buteau, but just that 458 00:25:43,890 --> 00:25:46,980 Phoebe Robinson: it's a comedy show that is just so celebratory. And 459 00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:51,180 Phoebe Robinson: it was so fun. And I think we're living in a 460 00:25:51,210 --> 00:25:54,300 Phoebe Robinson: time right now where everyone... Or not everyone, but a 461 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:56,879 Phoebe Robinson: lot of people feel jaded, that it feels a little 462 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,540 Phoebe Robinson: snarky. It feels a little bit like people feel like 463 00:26:00,540 --> 00:26:02,699 Phoebe Robinson: they don't know who they can trust, or what. And 464 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:05,159 Phoebe Robinson: they're feeling a little upset. And so I'm glad that 465 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:11,160 Phoebe Robinson: we made something that just felt so infectiously positive, and 466 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,210 Phoebe Robinson: joyful. And so, people watch it on Max. I get 467 00:26:15,210 --> 00:26:20,040 Phoebe Robinson: those residual checks. Thank you very much. But I think 468 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,390 Phoebe Robinson: it is probably the thing that I'm proudest of the most. Yeah. 469 00:26:24,780 --> 00:26:29,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, it's pretty awesome. I remember that Michelle Obama episode. 470 00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:31,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: And yeah, that was the first time I checked out 471 00:26:31,410 --> 00:26:34,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: the show. And it's kept going strong since then, so 472 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: congratulations on that. 473 00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:36,090 Phoebe Robinson: Thank you. 474 00:26:36,090 --> 00:26:37,619 Rob Simmelkjaer: Okay. Then we have to talk about one thing you and 475 00:26:37,619 --> 00:26:39,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: I have in common, which is- 476 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:39,241 Phoebe Robinson: Ooh. 477 00:26:39,241 --> 00:26:42,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... not just running, but a love of U2. 478 00:26:42,990 --> 00:26:43,109 Phoebe Robinson: Yes! 479 00:26:43,109 --> 00:26:48,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: It is so awesome to see someone younger than me, and 480 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're like a good decade plus younger than me, Phoebe. 481 00:26:52,740 --> 00:26:52,830 Phoebe Robinson: What? 482 00:26:52,890 --> 00:26:55,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yes, yes, yes. I'm a little older than maybe you 483 00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:59,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: think I am. But another U2 fan, but you've got 484 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:01,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: me on a big one up, which is, you're not 485 00:27:01,890 --> 00:27:05,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: just a fan, you know Bono, you have worked with Bono. 486 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:05,580 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah. 487 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:10,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: Obviously, you support his charity, Red, through your running. Just 488 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: talk to me about being in the orbit of U2 and Bono, 489 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:18,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: and what that is like for you. And then we'll 490 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:19,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: talk about running for Red. 491 00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:26,700 Phoebe Robinson: It's wild. If you're a teenager, you like whoever, whether 492 00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:31,260 Phoebe Robinson: it's U2, or Britney Spears, or Janet Jackson. Then fast- 493 00:27:31,260 --> 00:27:37,530 Phoebe Robinson: forward 25 years later, you're becoming friends with that person. 494 00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:42,390 Phoebe Robinson: It is wild. I think he and I are similar 495 00:27:42,390 --> 00:27:46,440 Phoebe Robinson: in that we try to use our creativity for good. 496 00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:52,740 Phoebe Robinson: And he's really funny, and smart, and kind, and a 497 00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:58,470 Phoebe Robinson: little bit of a rascal. But he's so cool. And 498 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,980 Phoebe Robinson: everything that he does with Red, I remember, I used 499 00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:05,250 Phoebe Robinson: to watch Oprah back in the day after school. And I 500 00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:07,230 Phoebe Robinson: remember when he would go on Oprah, and there was 501 00:28:07,410 --> 00:28:12,150 Phoebe Robinson: the Gap Red that were kind of everywhere, omnipresent. And 502 00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:17,969 Phoebe Robinson: it was really cool. And I never thought, " Oh, I was going 503 00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:19,560 Phoebe Robinson: to meet him one day," or I was going to 504 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,590 Phoebe Robinson: get involved with Red in any real way. And we 505 00:28:22,590 --> 00:28:26,340 Phoebe Robinson: met at Bonnaroo in 2017, and I just was like, " 506 00:28:27,810 --> 00:28:30,930 Phoebe Robinson: Use me. I'm happy to do whatever." And I was 507 00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:33,390 Phoebe Robinson: already talking about Red on the podcast, and so that's 508 00:28:33,390 --> 00:28:38,130 Phoebe Robinson: sort of how I started doing stuff with Red. And 509 00:28:38,370 --> 00:28:42,090 Phoebe Robinson: I joined the advisory board last year. And I don't 510 00:28:42,090 --> 00:28:45,479 Phoebe Robinson: know, he's the best. I have it hanging up, but 511 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,750 Phoebe Robinson: he made... I'll grab it. He made a little thing 512 00:28:48,750 --> 00:28:51,002 Phoebe Robinson: for my 40s, which I (inaudible) . 513 00:28:51,090 --> 00:28:54,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: Phoebe's going to get something, which we're going to see 514 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: in a second. 515 00:28:55,950 --> 00:29:00,930 Phoebe Robinson: But he made me this little custom piece for my 516 00:29:00,930 --> 00:29:04,140 Phoebe Robinson: birthday and shipped it to me from Dublin. 517 00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:09,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's incredible. For those listening, it is framed... It looks like, is it a lyric 518 00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:10,411 Rob Simmelkjaer: or a poem with a little drawing attached to it? 519 00:29:10,411 --> 00:29:14,130 Phoebe Robinson: It's a lyric. It's a lyric. Yeah. 520 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:16,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: What song is the lyric from? I can't tell. 521 00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:23,310 Phoebe Robinson: It is... "For people like us..." Oh, " The more you see, 522 00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:23,521 Phoebe Robinson: the less you know." 523 00:29:23,521 --> 00:29:24,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: I know that song, City of Blinding Lights. 524 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,310 Phoebe Robinson: City of Blinding Lights. Yeah. 525 00:29:26,340 --> 00:29:28,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: I know that song. Great song. 526 00:29:28,590 --> 00:29:32,310 Phoebe Robinson: So it's very sweet. And when I got this, I was 527 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:35,940 Phoebe Robinson: just... His team reached out and they were like, " Oh, what's your 528 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:40,380 Phoebe Robinson: mailing address?" And I was like, "Okay, whatever." And I'm like, " Sure, here it is." I 529 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:42,270 Phoebe Robinson: didn't know what was going on. But I was just, when I 530 00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:45,060 Phoebe Robinson: got this, I was like, and I can't get these 531 00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:49,140 Phoebe Robinson: dusty dudes to text me back, and this man is 532 00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:53,670 Phoebe Robinson: making me custom art, in Dublin, and shipping it two 533 00:29:53,670 --> 00:29:57,330 Phoebe Robinson: day express via FedEx? I need to raise my standards. 534 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:06,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh my gosh, that's hilarious, first of all. And it 535 00:30:06,330 --> 00:30:09,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: is amazing. And thanks to Lou Pellegrino, our producer, for 536 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: putting that song title in my head, the City of 537 00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:14,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: Blinding Light. I think that's from Achtung Baby, that album. But- 538 00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:15,180 Phoebe Robinson: No, it's from... 539 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:17,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: No? 540 00:30:17,370 --> 00:30:17,371 Phoebe Robinson: Yes- 541 00:30:17,371 --> 00:30:20,341 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's from House to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb. 542 00:30:20,341 --> 00:30:20,791 Phoebe Robinson: ... which they just- 543 00:30:20,791 --> 00:30:23,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: Very good, Lou Pellegrino, on the U2 trivia. 544 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,770 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, and they just released their 20th anniversary of that. So they have a bunch of B- sides and stuff. Yeah. 545 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:33,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh my gosh, so amazing. When someone that big and 546 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: that famous manages to take the time out of their 547 00:30:36,750 --> 00:30:39,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: day to do something like that for you, it does 548 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: kind of raise your standards. Right? Because you're like, wait 549 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: a second, if he could do that for me, why 550 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:46,709 Rob Simmelkjaer: can't so- and- so return my email? Right? It's kind 551 00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:49,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: of like, I get it. I could totally see how 552 00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:52,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: you would feel that way. That's incredible. 553 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:52,500 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah. 554 00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:56,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: And talk about running for Red. So both of your 555 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: marathons, you've been running in support of that organization as well, right? 556 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,040 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, so I did Boston for Red. And then I think I'm going to do Chicago 557 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,500 Phoebe Robinson: this fall for Red as well. We're just trying to 558 00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:11,700 Phoebe Robinson: figure that out, in terms of my body, so my body couldn't be like, " 559 00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:16,469 Phoebe Robinson: Girl, stop." But it's been really great for Boston. I 560 00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:20,250 Phoebe Robinson: ended up raising $20, 000. I felt really excited about that. 561 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,480 Phoebe Robinson: And it's just so special, because I think for a 562 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,030 Phoebe Robinson: while people were sort of feeling like, " Oh yeah, AIDS 563 00:31:27,030 --> 00:31:29,820 Phoebe Robinson: has been solved. It's not a big deal anymore." And 564 00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:33,450 Phoebe Robinson: we're still going, "No, no, no. Women are still the most likely 565 00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:37,230 Phoebe Robinson: to contract it. A lot of people can't afford the 566 00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:42,420 Phoebe Robinson: medicine." And so we really want people to realize we 567 00:31:42,420 --> 00:31:46,410 Phoebe Robinson: can eradicate this. We really can. Hopefully, we'll get a 568 00:31:46,410 --> 00:31:51,120 Phoebe Robinson: vaccine, and we can beat this thing. So let's not 569 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,060 Phoebe Robinson: forget about it. Let's keep our foot on the gas. 570 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,100 Phoebe Robinson: And doing things, whether it's like running the marathon for 571 00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:02,790 Phoebe Robinson: them, or hosting events for them. Or when I was 572 00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:06,570 Phoebe Robinson: touring stand up, making little specialized merch, and so the 573 00:32:06,570 --> 00:32:09,570 Phoebe Robinson: proceeds would go to Red. All of those things, to 574 00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:14,130 Phoebe Robinson: me, are just ways to just keep awareness, A. But 575 00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:18,210 Phoebe Robinson: also, B, this isn't just about, okay, people surviving on 576 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,220 Phoebe Robinson: this medicine. It's about people thriving and having full robust 577 00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:26,219 Phoebe Robinson: lives. And I think, what's been great is that I've 578 00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:28,890 Phoebe Robinson: gotten to go to Africa a couple times. The last 579 00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:33,300 Phoebe Robinson: time I went was to Zambia, was that 2019, maybe? Yeah, 580 00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:37,140 Phoebe Robinson: I think it was 2019. And you meet people who 581 00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:40,470 Phoebe Robinson: turn their lives around. They're on the medicine, they're feeling 582 00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:44,400 Phoebe Robinson: healthy, they're starting their own businesses, they're being present parents 583 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,820 Phoebe Robinson: in their kids' lives. They're being very active in their 584 00:32:47,820 --> 00:32:50,400 Phoebe Robinson: communities. That's been, I think, the biggest thing that was 585 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,080 Phoebe Robinson: really exciting, is that people were doing a lot of community bonding 586 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,190 Phoebe Robinson: and interacting. And you see all that stuff, and you go, " 587 00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:04,080 Phoebe Robinson: That's what it's about." It's about people having full lives, 588 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,130 Phoebe Robinson: and doing good for other people, and being around for 589 00:33:08,130 --> 00:33:11,610 Phoebe Robinson: the family and friends. And so it's really special that 590 00:33:11,610 --> 00:33:13,800 Phoebe Robinson: I'm a part of Red, and I can keep spreading that 591 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,100 Phoebe Robinson: message. And I want it to be a positive thing, because I think 592 00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:19,710 Phoebe Robinson: sometimes when people think of nonprofits, they're just like, " Oh, 593 00:33:19,710 --> 00:33:23,010 Phoebe Robinson: doom and gloom. Okay, you just want money from us." 594 00:33:23,010 --> 00:33:25,050 Phoebe Robinson: And it's like, " No, no, no. It's not about that. It 595 00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:26,130 Phoebe Robinson: really isn't." 596 00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:32,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: Love that. Incredible. And it's a nice conduit between your 597 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: running life, and your career, right? Because you're talking about 598 00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:40,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: it, you've got this amazing relationship with Bono. How else 599 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:45,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: has running impacted what you do in your career? What 600 00:33:45,030 --> 00:33:48,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: do you think you take from your running adventures and 601 00:33:48,450 --> 00:33:53,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: bring back to everything you do as a comedian, podcaster, actor? 602 00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:58,380 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, that's a great question. I think the first thing 603 00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:00,630 Phoebe Robinson: that's top of mind for me, is I think there's just 604 00:34:00,630 --> 00:34:03,600 Phoebe Robinson: a level of resilience I have now that I didn't 605 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,340 Phoebe Robinson: have before. Like how I was saying earlier, every run is 606 00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:11,730 Phoebe Robinson: different. Certainly, when you do a marathon, you could do 607 00:34:11,730 --> 00:34:14,850 Phoebe Robinson: all the planning that you want to do, but the day of, ( 608 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:17,610 Phoebe Robinson: beep) is going to go the way that it's going to 609 00:34:17,610 --> 00:34:23,670 Phoebe Robinson: go. And so, it's all about handling and managing expectations, 610 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,620 Phoebe Robinson: trying to remain positive. I was sort of dealing with 611 00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:32,610 Phoebe Robinson: my shin injury during the New York City Marathon, and 612 00:34:32,610 --> 00:34:35,520 Phoebe Robinson: it really just became, like, well, this is mental. I 613 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,030 Phoebe Robinson: just have to figure it out. And taking that into 614 00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:42,840 Phoebe Robinson: career, or just everyday life, and just being open to 615 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,670 Phoebe Robinson: the fact that things aren't going to go your way, 616 00:34:44,670 --> 00:34:48,150 Phoebe Robinson: but that doesn't mean that you just give up, or 617 00:34:48,150 --> 00:34:50,190 Phoebe Robinson: be like, " Oh, screw it. I'm just not going to 618 00:34:50,190 --> 00:34:52,500 Phoebe Robinson: try anymore." It's just sort of like, " That's just life." 619 00:34:52,530 --> 00:34:54,390 Phoebe Robinson: So I think that's the first thing. I think the 620 00:34:54,390 --> 00:35:02,610 Phoebe Robinson: second thing is, I don't think people are... Certainly, in 621 00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:08,100 Phoebe Robinson: America, the way that we are taught to view fitness, 622 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,530 Phoebe Robinson: you'll see people be like, " Oh, I had pizza, so I have 623 00:35:10,590 --> 00:35:13,680 Phoebe Robinson: to punish myself tomorrow by working out." And you're like, 624 00:35:14,370 --> 00:35:21,210 Phoebe Robinson: being physically active isn't a punishment. It's a privilege. And 625 00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:23,880 Phoebe Robinson: so for me, I'm like, working out is great, and 626 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,339 Phoebe Robinson: I celebrate the fact that my body can move. And 627 00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:30,060 Phoebe Robinson: am I ever going to be the fastest runner? No, 628 00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:33,330 Phoebe Robinson: it doesn't matter. It's the fact that I get to 629 00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:36,210 Phoebe Robinson: go, four times a week, I get to lace up 630 00:35:36,210 --> 00:35:39,540 Phoebe Robinson: my shoes, and go for a run, and feel better 631 00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:42,810 Phoebe Robinson: than I did coming into the run when I come 632 00:35:42,810 --> 00:35:46,380 Phoebe Robinson: out of it. That's fantastic. And so I always tell people, 633 00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:50,969 Phoebe Robinson: I'm like, you will stick with whatever exercise you choose, 634 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,770 Phoebe Robinson: if you look at it as it's supplementing your life. 635 00:35:56,190 --> 00:35:58,469 Phoebe Robinson: And the same way that you're like, " Oh, I need 636 00:35:58,469 --> 00:36:01,260 Phoebe Robinson: eight hours of sleep," it's like, " I need to move 637 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,880 Phoebe Robinson: 30 minutes a day every day." Everyone can do that. It 638 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:09,180 Phoebe Robinson: doesn't have to be anything intense. There are some days 639 00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:10,560 Phoebe Robinson: where I'm like, " All right, I'm just going to do 640 00:36:11,130 --> 00:36:14,550 Phoebe Robinson: 20 minutes of Pilates. That's all I have." That's fine. 641 00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:19,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: A hundred percent. It's what so many of our members 642 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: and what we're all about here, is just getting yourself 643 00:36:22,290 --> 00:36:27,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: moving, and the dividends that pays throughout the rest of 644 00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:30,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: your life. Every single day, I always feel is a 645 00:36:30,210 --> 00:36:33,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: big difference if I got myself moving, especially early in 646 00:36:33,690 --> 00:36:38,069 Rob Simmelkjaer: the day. Have you gotten Jessica Williams into the running 647 00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:38,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: scene? What's going on there? 648 00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:46,170 Phoebe Robinson: I have not. Most of my friends are like, " We're good." But 649 00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:46,561 Phoebe Robinson: I've met like- 650 00:36:46,561 --> 00:36:48,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's like, " You go girl, you go girl. I'll sit here and watch, 651 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: cheer you on, but yeah, you do your thing." 652 00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:55,200 Phoebe Robinson: But what's been great, is once I started running, then 653 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:59,040 Phoebe Robinson: it's so funny, you know how when you start doing a 654 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,710 Phoebe Robinson: hobby then you realize there were people in your life 655 00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:04,710 Phoebe Robinson: who do that thing, but you just never talked about 656 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:06,420 Phoebe Robinson: it, because it's just, if you're not both doing it, 657 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,120 Phoebe Robinson: what's the point? So I'm actually running Tokyo with my 658 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,110 Phoebe Robinson: friend Shawn, and she has to do Tokyo and then Boston, 659 00:37:13,110 --> 00:37:16,259 Phoebe Robinson: then she gets her World 6. So I'm going to 660 00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:19,080 Phoebe Robinson: go cheer her on in Boston next year, knock on 661 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,960 Phoebe Robinson: wood if she gets in. So it's cool to be like, " 662 00:37:21,989 --> 00:37:24,570 Phoebe Robinson: Oh, we're going to go to this city together, and we're going 663 00:37:24,570 --> 00:37:26,400 Phoebe Robinson: to run this race." And she's faster than me, so 664 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,030 Phoebe Robinson: she'll finish faster than me. But it's just cool to 665 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,270 Phoebe Robinson: have that. Or friends will be like, they'll text me and 666 00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:35,940 Phoebe Robinson: be like, " Oh, have you tried this sort of recovery 667 00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:41,340 Phoebe Robinson: thing?" So it's really fun to just meet people who 668 00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:43,980 Phoebe Robinson: share this passion for this thing that I do, and 669 00:37:43,980 --> 00:37:46,110 Phoebe Robinson: it's really fun. And so I'm like, maybe I want to 670 00:37:46,590 --> 00:37:49,530 Phoebe Robinson: start a little run club after I'm done with Tokyo, 671 00:37:49,530 --> 00:37:54,810 Phoebe Robinson: and just have a fun, easy Sunday morning we run 672 00:37:54,810 --> 00:37:57,299 Phoebe Robinson: for, I don't know, a couple miles, and just- 673 00:37:57,629 --> 00:37:59,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: Let me know if you do. That sounds amazing. 674 00:37:59,969 --> 00:37:59,970 Phoebe Robinson: I will. 675 00:37:59,970 --> 00:38:03,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: I will totally come on a run with you. That'd be so much fun. Are 676 00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:07,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: you targeting the six star medal? Sounds like you might 677 00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:09,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: be. You got Boston, New York- 678 00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:10,111 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah. 679 00:38:10,111 --> 00:38:11,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: Going for Tokyo. 680 00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:16,320 Phoebe Robinson: Yep. Yeah, of course, I'm a little overachiever. So if 681 00:38:17,070 --> 00:38:20,010 Phoebe Robinson: I could get a little symbol of all my hard 682 00:38:20,010 --> 00:38:22,259 Phoebe Robinson: work, I'm going to do it. So I'm excited. It's 683 00:38:22,260 --> 00:38:26,339 Phoebe Robinson: so funny, because when I came home from New York 684 00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:30,450 Phoebe Robinson: City, and I was just soaking in the bath, and 685 00:38:30,450 --> 00:38:33,989 Phoebe Robinson: I went on Instagram and I saw that Sydney had joined. 686 00:38:33,989 --> 00:38:37,980 Phoebe Robinson: And I was like, " You guys couldn't announce this one 687 00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:44,549 Phoebe Robinson: day later?" I was like, " Well, I guess I got to figure out 688 00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:46,620 Phoebe Robinson: when I'm going to try and get into Sydney." 689 00:38:48,510 --> 00:38:51,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, you can rest assured, Phoebe, I can give you 690 00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:55,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: some comfort in that you'll still get a medal after 691 00:38:55,020 --> 00:38:57,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: you do the six. You don't have to run Sydney 692 00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:01,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: to get the medal. The original six will stay the 693 00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:03,989 Rob Simmelkjaer: original six, and Sydney will be a part of some 694 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,361 Rob Simmelkjaer: medal to be determined. So you're good. Don't stress. 695 00:39:06,361 --> 00:39:09,810 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, yeah. Are you going to try and run Sydney? 696 00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:13,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, maybe at some point. I don't know. I'm going 697 00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:15,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: to see how it goes. I've only run two. I've 698 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: run New York and Berlin. I just ran Berlin in 699 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: September. Like I said, I'm going to be in Tokyo 700 00:39:20,969 --> 00:39:24,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: in March, and we'll just see what happens. My knee 701 00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:27,239 Rob Simmelkjaer: doesn't always want to do these things, so I kind 702 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: of have conversations with it from time to time, and 703 00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:31,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: decide if I'm going to run or not run. I 704 00:39:31,739 --> 00:39:33,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: kind of announce last minute if I'm going to run, 705 00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:34,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: because I got to make sure I can actually do 706 00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:38,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: it. But we'll see. We'll see what happens. I love 707 00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:42,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: what you're doing. Do you talk about running on the 708 00:39:42,030 --> 00:39:45,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: podcast? In your comedy? Have you been able to work running? 709 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: Because there's actually a lot of funny stuff about running. I'm seeing 710 00:39:48,570 --> 00:39:52,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: a lot of great videos on Instagram, people making fun 711 00:39:52,410 --> 00:39:55,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: of running, or making fun of runners and how much 712 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: they love to talk about running. Right? The old thing 713 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: about how everybody's got to come to the office and 714 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: tell everybody how they ran a marathon, and wear the medal for 715 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: days, because that's what we do. There's some good material 716 00:40:05,610 --> 00:40:07,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: out there about that. Have you worked running into any 717 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: of your work? 718 00:40:08,910 --> 00:40:15,690 Phoebe Robinson: I haven't yet. I've been thinking about starting to come 719 00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:18,480 Phoebe Robinson: up with a new hour going on tour, standup- wise next 720 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,610 Phoebe Robinson: year. And so I'm figuring out what the themes are 721 00:40:23,610 --> 00:40:25,860 Phoebe Robinson: going to be, and building the hour from there. But 722 00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:27,450 Phoebe Robinson: I think if I could figure out a way to 723 00:40:27,810 --> 00:40:31,230 Phoebe Robinson: make it into standup, I absolutely will, because I love 724 00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:34,650 Phoebe Robinson: talking about running. I really do. It's very boring to 725 00:40:34,650 --> 00:40:37,890 Phoebe Robinson: a lot of people, but I love it so much. 726 00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:40,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. All right, so do you have a 727 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: time in mind for Tokyo? Or do you not go 728 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: in with time goals? How do you approach races like that? 729 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,380 Phoebe Robinson: Because I was really on track to hit my pace 730 00:40:52,380 --> 00:40:56,250 Phoebe Robinson: target of 5: 35 in New York until my shin 731 00:40:56,340 --> 00:41:00,540 Phoebe Robinson: started acting up around mile 16, I'm going to try 732 00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:04,739 Phoebe Robinson: and do 5: 15 for Tokyo. Because it is flatter, 733 00:41:04,739 --> 00:41:09,719 Phoebe Robinson: I'm like, I think I can actually hit that target. 734 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,219 Phoebe Robinson: So I have my little run today. I download the 735 00:41:14,250 --> 00:41:17,489 Phoebe Robinson: Runna app, and it came up with a plan for me. 736 00:41:18,149 --> 00:41:18,719 Rob Simmelkjaer: Awesome. 737 00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:20,281 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, so yesterday I did a- 738 00:41:20,281 --> 00:41:24,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: A little speed work mixed in there, because Runna will give you some speed workouts, 739 00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:26,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: and some tempo workouts. Yep. 740 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:32,850 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah, yeah. Yesterday I did 30 minute upper body on 741 00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:36,299 Phoebe Robinson: Peloton, a little Chappell Roan class, which was really fun. 742 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,580 Phoebe Robinson: So yeah, because I have a little bit of a muscle. 743 00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:45,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: I see a muscle there. For those who can't see, 744 00:41:45,570 --> 00:41:49,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: she's flexing the left bicep. And yes, I saw something 745 00:41:50,010 --> 00:41:52,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the shape of a muscle there. Absolutely. 746 00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:54,450 Phoebe Robinson: Yes, it's getting there. It's starting. 747 00:41:57,989 --> 00:42:00,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. It's not just about the running. She 748 00:42:00,750 --> 00:42:04,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: does the upper body, she does the comedy, the acting, 749 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: the podcast. She does it all. Phoebe Robinson, so fun 750 00:42:08,489 --> 00:42:11,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: having you on Set the Pace. We can't wait to 751 00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:14,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: see what you do in Tokyo. Do you have any 752 00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:16,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: races between now and then on the calendar? What's your 753 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,069 Rob Simmelkjaer: next race? 754 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,300 Phoebe Robinson: I was thinking of maybe doing the Rose Bowl Half 755 00:42:25,290 --> 00:42:28,260 Phoebe Robinson: in January. Because I did it last year, and I actually, 756 00:42:28,739 --> 00:42:31,770 Phoebe Robinson: I did enjoy it. What I was upset about, and 757 00:42:31,770 --> 00:42:33,719 Phoebe Robinson: I wanted to cuss people out, because they were like, " 758 00:42:33,989 --> 00:42:37,169 Phoebe Robinson: Oh, it's mostly flat." I never listen to anyone again 759 00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:39,210 Phoebe Robinson: when they say that, because the first three miles are 760 00:42:39,210 --> 00:42:44,279 Phoebe Robinson: rolling hills. I'm like, " This isn't mostly flat. It's flat halfway through." 761 00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:49,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's tough when people tell you flat, and you're looking 762 00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:52,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: for flat, and then you see anything that resembles a 763 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: hill. You're like, " What is this? I was told there 764 00:42:55,530 --> 00:42:59,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: would be no hills in this marathon," or half marathon. And 765 00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:02,009 Rob Simmelkjaer: then you end up seeing anything and it does... Well, 766 00:43:02,010 --> 00:43:03,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: if you want flat, I can tell you from personal 767 00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:06,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: experience, Berlin, they say it's flat. Phoebe- 768 00:43:06,810 --> 00:43:06,811 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah. 769 00:43:06,811 --> 00:43:11,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... it is flat. It is really, really flat. So I 770 00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:13,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: encourage you to get that on your calendar. 771 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:13,530 Phoebe Robinson: Oh. 772 00:43:13,739 --> 00:43:16,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: There's a lot of turns, but it's really, really flat. 773 00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:20,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: I enjoyed that a lot. I hear Tokyo is maybe 774 00:43:20,130 --> 00:43:22,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: not quite that flat, but pretty flat as well. So 775 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: I wish you luck, I can't wait. We'll definitely hang 776 00:43:25,739 --> 00:43:26,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: out over there, and I will definitely be- 777 00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:26,821 Phoebe Robinson: Yes. 778 00:43:26,821 --> 00:43:30,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... rooting you on, one way or another, from Tokyo. 779 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: So I wish you all the luck. Really awesome meeting 780 00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:35,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: you. Thank you so much for coming on and joining 781 00:43:35,610 --> 00:43:36,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: me and Becs. 782 00:43:36,750 --> 00:43:39,420 Phoebe Robinson: Of course. Thanks for having me. This was so fun. 783 00:43:39,420 --> 00:43:43,049 Phoebe Robinson: And you have really great energy. You have very positive 784 00:43:43,050 --> 00:43:45,540 Phoebe Robinson: juju. I can feel it through my screen. It's great. 785 00:43:45,870 --> 00:43:47,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: I appreciate that. Tell Bono. 786 00:43:47,219 --> 00:43:47,279 Phoebe Robinson: Yeah. 787 00:43:47,580 --> 00:43:53,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: Tell Bono that and maybe he'll send me a custom framed birthday gift, which 788 00:43:53,370 --> 00:43:55,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: at that point, my life will be complete. So thank 789 00:43:55,980 --> 00:44:14,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: you very much. Awesome to meet you, Phoebe. Thanks. Scotty Nelson is a 790 00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: rising star in the running community, having made a remarkable 791 00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:20,819 Rob Simmelkjaer: transition from a novice to an elite marathoner in just 792 00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:23,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: a few months. After completing his first marathon at the 793 00:44:23,820 --> 00:44:28,319 Rob Simmelkjaer: Chicago Marathon in October of 2023, he followed up with 794 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: a strong performance at the TCS New York City Marathon, 795 00:44:31,290 --> 00:44:35,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: then achieved a sub 2: 18 time at the California 796 00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:40,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: International Marathon, qualifying him for last year's Olympic trials. A 797 00:44:40,469 --> 00:44:43,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: member of the Front Runners New York Team, Scotty's most 798 00:44:43,050 --> 00:44:46,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: recent accomplishment was as the top Front Runner's Finisher, right 799 00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:50,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: ahead of his twin brother, Craig, and the 33rd overall 800 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: men's finisher at this year's TCS New York City Marathon. 801 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: Scotty, join Meb. 802 00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:58,410 Mep: Thanks, Rob. Scotty, welcome to the show again I know 803 00:44:58,410 --> 00:45:00,989 Mep: you had an interview with Rob Simmelkjaer in February. How are 804 00:45:00,989 --> 00:45:01,590 Mep: you doing today? 805 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:04,530 Scotty Nelson: I'm doing well. Thank you so much for having me again. And it's great 806 00:45:04,530 --> 00:45:06,270 Scotty Nelson: to see you and great to be here, as always. 807 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,830 Mep: Thanks. Qualifying the Chicago Marathon for the trials, and running 808 00:45:10,830 --> 00:45:15,000 Mep: the trials, how was that running perspective change your mind, 809 00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:16,560 Mep: your first one to the trials? 810 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,820 Scotty Nelson: Yeah, it was a little bit of a whirlwind, as you could imagine, 811 00:45:21,060 --> 00:45:25,440 Scotty Nelson: just given that the first attempt at the distance ever 812 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,739 Scotty Nelson: was in October, and then four months later it was 813 00:45:28,739 --> 00:45:33,420 Scotty Nelson: in Orlando. But it was an amazing experience. I had 814 00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:37,560 Scotty Nelson: an absolutely immeasurable amount of support from both Front Runners 815 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,290 Scotty Nelson: New York, and from my family and friends. So just being there 816 00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:43,260 Scotty Nelson: in that moment in February was, I think, a culmination 817 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,620 Scotty Nelson: of many months of effort. But hopefully, at the same 818 00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:50,010 Scotty Nelson: time, the start of the next chapter in running. And 819 00:45:50,010 --> 00:45:52,770 Scotty Nelson: I do feel like, hopefully this is just kind of 820 00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:53,910 Scotty Nelson: getting started, hopefully. 821 00:45:54,989 --> 00:45:57,810 Mep: As I sometimes like to say, the end of one race is the beginning of 822 00:45:57,810 --> 00:46:00,960 Mep: another. Chicago, and then trials. How were the trials for 823 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,880 Mep: your experience, and confidence- wise? 824 00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:07,890 Scotty Nelson: Yeah, it was, for confidence- wise it was definitely, it 825 00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:12,630 Scotty Nelson: was crazy to think that I was there. It was just absolutely wild, being 826 00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:15,120 Scotty Nelson: at the start line with some of the athletes that I 827 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,560 Scotty Nelson: look up to so immensely. But I think it showed 828 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,410 Scotty Nelson: me that that was a field that I could one 829 00:46:22,410 --> 00:46:25,710 Scotty Nelson: day, or on that day, be a part of, as 830 00:46:25,710 --> 00:46:27,090 Scotty Nelson: long as I continue to do the work and put 831 00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:31,050 Scotty Nelson: the effort in. So coming around to this past month 832 00:46:31,050 --> 00:46:33,719 Scotty Nelson: in New York, I think having that experience in Orlando, 833 00:46:33,930 --> 00:46:37,140 Scotty Nelson: as being part of that pretty elite field, helped to 834 00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:40,590 Scotty Nelson: put me in a slightly more comfortable position towing the 835 00:46:40,590 --> 00:46:41,370 Scotty Nelson: line for New York. 836 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,260 Mep: Well, I'd like to say congratulations on being the top 837 00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:49,410 Mep: runner from the Front Runners New York at the TCS 838 00:46:49,410 --> 00:46:52,260 Mep: New York City Marathon. Can you tell us more about it, 839 00:46:52,260 --> 00:46:54,780 Mep: the experience running with the Front Runners, and how it 840 00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:57,779 Mep: impacted your training for the major marathon, like the New 841 00:46:57,780 --> 00:46:58,620 Mep: York City Marathon? 842 00:46:58,830 --> 00:47:02,910 Scotty Nelson: Yeah, absolutely. I feel like I could talk about this forever, 843 00:47:02,910 --> 00:47:08,069 Scotty Nelson: so please cut me off when it gets run on 844 00:47:08,070 --> 00:47:10,560 Scotty Nelson: time. But I credit Front Runners with so much of 845 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,640 Scotty Nelson: my running experience since college. So I actually ran cross 846 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,000 Scotty Nelson: country alongside my twin brother at Amherst College. And we 847 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,830 Scotty Nelson: both took a little bit of time off after that 848 00:47:19,830 --> 00:47:23,339 Scotty Nelson: experience, just to give the body a break after four 849 00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:25,710 Scotty Nelson: years of running at school, and then also, obviously, high 850 00:47:25,710 --> 00:47:28,259 Scotty Nelson: school and middle school as well. But right around the 851 00:47:28,260 --> 00:47:32,310 Scotty Nelson: pandemic, I back into the sport. And I really credit 852 00:47:32,310 --> 00:47:36,480 Scotty Nelson: Front Runners with giving me a community, and a support system, 853 00:47:36,540 --> 00:47:41,340 Scotty Nelson: and training programs that would allow me to really push 854 00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:44,339 Scotty Nelson: myself, in both the races and also with training. And 855 00:47:44,340 --> 00:47:49,350 Scotty Nelson: the community is just absolutely unbelievable. We boast, I think it's 856 00:47:49,469 --> 00:47:53,009 Scotty Nelson: 1400 members at this point, which is quite exceptional growth 857 00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:56,340 Scotty Nelson: for us. And what's great is that our club really 858 00:47:56,340 --> 00:48:00,450 Scotty Nelson: focuses on a breadth of experience from both a training 859 00:48:00,450 --> 00:48:03,480 Scotty Nelson: piece, from a racing piece, but also, we encompass all 860 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,170 Scotty Nelson: ages, all abilities. And I think that being a part 861 00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:09,750 Scotty Nelson: of that group, which is so supportive, has just allowed 862 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:12,870 Scotty Nelson: me to take a deep breath and approach it with 863 00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:15,210 Scotty Nelson: a little bit more of a holistic mindset, in that 864 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,010 Scotty Nelson: not every race is going to be a great one, 865 00:48:17,730 --> 00:48:20,790 Scotty Nelson: but I know that each one will have the support 866 00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:23,460 Scotty Nelson: of those other club members. So I'm immensely grateful for them. 867 00:48:24,420 --> 00:48:28,350 Mep: Awesome. Congratulations. As an open gay athlete, you have become 868 00:48:28,350 --> 00:48:32,250 Mep: a role model in the LGBTQ plus running community. How 869 00:48:32,250 --> 00:48:35,400 Mep: do you see your visibility in the sports and contribute 870 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,550 Mep: into a greater inclusivity and representation in running? 871 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,860 Scotty Nelson: Oh, thank you, ma, that's very kind of you to 872 00:48:40,860 --> 00:48:42,360 Scotty Nelson: say. I don't feel like a role model. 873 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:42,450 Mep: You are. 874 00:48:42,450 --> 00:48:49,200 Scotty Nelson: But I really appreciate that. I have other out athletes who 875 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,770 Scotty Nelson: I also look up to immensely. And to feel like 876 00:48:52,770 --> 00:48:54,690 Scotty Nelson: I am even at least a little bit of a 877 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,920 Scotty Nelson: part of that is an immense privilege. In terms of 878 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,880 Scotty Nelson: visibility, I think, especially where the world is right now, 879 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,840 Scotty Nelson: I think visibility is everything. And just to show up 880 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,000 Scotty Nelson: each day, and do your thing, and do it with 881 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,029 Scotty Nelson: confidence, the confidence that in many ways Front Runners has 882 00:49:12,030 --> 00:49:15,989 Scotty Nelson: enabled me to do, I feel like is my method 883 00:49:15,989 --> 00:49:21,239 Scotty Nelson: of leadership and my preferred style. But yeah, it is 884 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,860 Scotty Nelson: a privilege to be in that position for sure. 885 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,420 Mep: Can you talk a little bit about the running community, how 886 00:49:28,050 --> 00:49:30,840 Mep: this could be simple, just lacing your shoes up, and 887 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,660 Mep: how welcome they are, or how inclusive they are to 888 00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:35,100 Mep: you and others? 889 00:49:35,820 --> 00:49:40,770 Scotty Nelson: Oh yeah, absolutely. I've never felt anything but welcome and 890 00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:43,710 Scotty Nelson: supported in both Front Runners and the community more broadly. 891 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,500 Scotty Nelson: Just a few hours after Orlando last year, I sat 892 00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:51,569 Scotty Nelson: for an interview with Out Sports, which was just kind 893 00:49:51,570 --> 00:49:53,070 Scotty Nelson: of crazy that they had even heard that I was 894 00:49:53,460 --> 00:49:59,400 Scotty Nelson: there. So it's just been, I can't articulate it enough, 895 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,030 Scotty Nelson: the support that I've felt from all angles, all corners 896 00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:05,280 Scotty Nelson: of the running community, has been so appreciated. 897 00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:09,960 Mep: From the front New York has a strong presence in 898 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,100 Mep: New York City Marathon- 899 00:50:11,130 --> 00:50:11,131 Scotty Nelson: Yep. 900 00:50:11,131 --> 00:50:13,739 Mep: ... And the New York running community. How has being 901 00:50:13,739 --> 00:50:17,160 Mep: part of this community influenced your running journey? And what 902 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,920 Mep: advice would you give to other runners looking to join 903 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,239 Mep: in supportive running groups? 904 00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:25,290 Scotty Nelson: Yeah, definitely. In terms of for other runners looking to 905 00:50:25,290 --> 00:50:28,860 Scotty Nelson: join, I would say, and I still remember the first day 906 00:50:28,860 --> 00:50:31,800 Scotty Nelson: I showed up to Front Runners, the hardest part is 907 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,290 Scotty Nelson: showing up for that first time. I think that once 908 00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:37,380 Scotty Nelson: you get into the fold, and once you become, even... 909 00:50:38,250 --> 00:50:39,960 Scotty Nelson: Once you show up twice, or three times, it's so 910 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,819 Scotty Nelson: much easier because you know what to expect. But that 911 00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:43,890 Scotty Nelson: first time could be tricky. I remember I was very 912 00:50:43,890 --> 00:50:46,410 Scotty Nelson: nervous, because I was showing up all alone. And now 913 00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:49,710 Scotty Nelson: it's great to think that these people have become, in 914 00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:53,730 Scotty Nelson: many ways, my family. And in terms of the racing 915 00:50:53,730 --> 00:50:57,450 Scotty Nelson: side of things, I would say that signing up for 916 00:50:57,450 --> 00:51:00,510 Scotty Nelson: races and staying involved is the best way to stay 917 00:51:00,510 --> 00:51:03,690 Scotty Nelson: engaged in the sport. I think, at least for me, 918 00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:06,629 Scotty Nelson: having those deadlines on the calendar pushes me to get 919 00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:07,890 Scotty Nelson: up out of bed in the morning and get the 920 00:51:07,890 --> 00:51:12,480 Scotty Nelson: training in. So I would say that it's taking a lot of the 921 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,040 Scotty Nelson: little steps that I think enable you to progress in 922 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,160 Scotty Nelson: the sport at whatever level you are at. So I 923 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:20,880 Scotty Nelson: hope that's helpful. 924 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,660 Mep: Absolutely. And before I let you go, can you tell 925 00:51:24,660 --> 00:51:28,500 Mep: us any special memories from the last TCS New York City Marathon, but 926 00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:31,650 Mep: also include your brother in racing in the same race? 927 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,600 Scotty Nelson: Yeah, absolutely. The New York City Marathon 2023, there are moments 928 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,230 Scotty Nelson: that absolutely live in my head every single day. One 929 00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:42,390 Scotty Nelson: of them was, my brother and I were racing through 930 00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:45,540 Scotty Nelson: Williamsburg, and we were shoulder to shoulder, and it just 931 00:51:45,540 --> 00:51:47,940 Scotty Nelson: felt like the crowds were so immense that we didn't 932 00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:50,070 Scotty Nelson: have any room besides the two of us. There were 933 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,060 Scotty Nelson: inches on each side of us. So I think about that often, and 934 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,020 Scotty Nelson: I really look forward to other experiences like that with 935 00:51:58,020 --> 00:52:00,960 Scotty Nelson: my brother. This year was a little bit different. We 936 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,440 Scotty Nelson: started in different sides of things. But just having my 937 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,900 Scotty Nelson: brother, even for the day, and the morning of, and 938 00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:09,840 Scotty Nelson: being able to coordinate, and know that, " Okay, are you 939 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,150 Scotty Nelson: at Staten Island?" " I'm also at Staten Island." " How are you 940 00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:13,590 Scotty Nelson: doing with your warm- up?" We were texting each other 941 00:52:13,590 --> 00:52:17,489 Scotty Nelson: back and forth. So having him there, whether it's right 942 00:52:17,489 --> 00:52:20,190 Scotty Nelson: next to me or at the same starting line is 943 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,770 Scotty Nelson: something that I truly cherish and value. And in terms 944 00:52:25,770 --> 00:52:30,930 Scotty Nelson: of this year's marathon, it just felt, again, like there's 945 00:52:30,930 --> 00:52:33,779 Scotty Nelson: nothing like New York. I can't say it enough. But 946 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,980 Scotty Nelson: running through, I think, Brooklyn. Running up 1st Avenue, and 947 00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:41,460 Scotty Nelson: just hearing my name from people I know, people I don't know, 948 00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:45,180 Scotty Nelson: it feels like another world, for sure. And then, of 949 00:52:45,180 --> 00:52:48,645 Scotty Nelson: course, there's nothing like coming down 5th Avenue and knowing 950 00:52:48,645 --> 00:52:51,839 Scotty Nelson: that you're getting close to the finish. And that was right 951 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,969 Scotty Nelson: when I saw a lot of my friends and family, 952 00:52:53,969 --> 00:52:55,980 Scotty Nelson: was right at that part where you're about to turn 953 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,620 Scotty Nelson: back into the park. Kind of right when you're like, " 954 00:52:58,620 --> 00:53:00,450 Scotty Nelson: Can I do this last two and a half miles?" 955 00:53:01,050 --> 00:53:04,050 Scotty Nelson: So seeing them there, and knowing that it was getting close 956 00:53:04,050 --> 00:53:06,210 Scotty Nelson: to the finish line, is another moment that I think 957 00:53:06,210 --> 00:53:07,110 Scotty Nelson: will just live in my mind. 958 00:53:08,250 --> 00:53:09,989 Mep: You know, Scotty, I tell people you should do one 959 00:53:09,989 --> 00:53:12,690 Mep: marathon in your lifetime, and after that is optional. But for you to do 960 00:53:13,350 --> 00:53:16,049 Mep: it in Chicago, the Olympic trials, and to finish in 961 00:53:16,050 --> 00:53:20,131 Mep: New York, congratulations on a great achievement, and keep up the great work. 962 00:53:20,131 --> 00:53:21,540 Scotty Nelson: Thank you so much and great to meet you again. Thank you so much for 963 00:53:21,540 --> 00:53:21,870 Scotty Nelson: having me. 964 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: Thank you, Scotty, for joining us, and for being a 965 00:53:24,570 --> 00:53:27,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: member of New York Road Runners. Now onto the final 966 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: part of our show, today's Meb Minutes. 967 00:53:29,790 --> 00:53:33,719 Mep: After a marathon, marathon blues can hit. It is normal 968 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,509 Mep: to feel a bit down, but give yourself time to 969 00:53:36,510 --> 00:53:41,580 Mep: rest and recover, both physically and mentally. Once you are 970 00:53:41,580 --> 00:53:45,600 Mep: ready, set the goals to reignite your passion. Whether it's 971 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,040 Mep: a shorter races, or just enjoying the run without pressure, 972 00:53:50,219 --> 00:53:53,250 Mep: find ways to keep your love for the sport alive. 973 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,940 Mep: And stay connected to the running community to share experiences 974 00:53:56,969 --> 00:54:01,110 Mep: and stay inspired. Personal experience, for me, when I ran 975 00:54:01,110 --> 00:54:03,660 Mep: a marathon, if I headed out at the ballpark, I'm telling 976 00:54:03,660 --> 00:54:05,790 Mep: my brother and manager, Howie, I say, " Let's go sign 977 00:54:05,790 --> 00:54:08,489 Mep: up for this." But then sometimes you just want to 978 00:54:08,489 --> 00:54:12,030 Mep: get a little bit of time to recover. You want 979 00:54:12,030 --> 00:54:13,890 Mep: to miss the running part of it, and say, " You know 980 00:54:13,890 --> 00:54:16,529 Mep: what, might gone a week, might gone two weeks, but 981 00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:18,779 Mep: now it's a good time to be able to just 982 00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:21,390 Mep: come back to it slowly." Just run maybe twice a 983 00:54:21,390 --> 00:54:23,219 Mep: week, or once a week just to see if there's 984 00:54:23,219 --> 00:54:25,800 Mep: injuries, that some things that are going on in your body 985 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,460 Mep: and you can adjust. But meeting with people after the 986 00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:33,090 Mep: marathon, it would ignite your enthusiasm to be able to 987 00:54:33,390 --> 00:54:35,489 Mep: be back into running. You don't have to sign up 988 00:54:35,489 --> 00:54:39,540 Mep: for a marathon, but you can just sign up for 5K, 10K, or half- 989 00:54:39,540 --> 00:54:42,840 Mep: marathon. That will get you out of the bed. And especially, if 990 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,420 Mep: the bad weather, you'll be able to get up if 991 00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:49,260 Mep: you're meeting somebody. So marathon blues is normal. It happens 992 00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:51,330 Mep: to all of us. But at the same time, just 993 00:54:51,330 --> 00:54:55,290 Mep: surround yourself with good people, and your club, or people 994 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,760 Mep: who are running friendly. 995 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, that does it for another episode of Set 996 00:54:59,370 --> 00:55:01,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Pace. I want to thank our guests today, Phoebe 997 00:55:01,739 --> 00:55:05,399 Rob Simmelkjaer: Robinson and Scotty Nelson. If you liked the episode today, 998 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: make sure you rate it, subscribe it, tell your friends, 999 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: leave a comment so that more people can join us 1000 00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:14,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: here on Set the Pace. Thanks for joining us. Enjoy 1001 00:55:14,489 --> 00:55:15,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: the miles. We'll see you next week.