1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,290 Becs Gentry: We should be celebrating every position that comes over the 2 00:00:04,290 --> 00:00:07,500 Becs Gentry: finish line, as well as the people who don't because 3 00:00:07,740 --> 00:00:10,710 Becs Gentry: race day is the celebration, the training, as you say, training 4 00:00:10,710 --> 00:00:13,860 Becs Gentry: like a professional athlete for you both. Training hard for 5 00:00:13,860 --> 00:00:18,750 Becs Gentry: people who are just starting out running. That is so 6 00:00:18,750 --> 00:00:24,150 Becs Gentry: important to being healthy and making a routine and falling 7 00:00:24,150 --> 00:00:25,170 Becs Gentry: in love with running. 8 00:00:30,210 --> 00:00:33,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hey everybody and welcome to Set the Pace, the official 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: podcast of New York Roadrunners, presented by Peloton. I am 10 00:00:37,530 --> 00:00:40,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: your host, Rob Simmelkjaer, the CEO of New York Roadrunners 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: and with me on what I think will be a 12 00:00:43,290 --> 00:00:47,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: very memorable episode of Set the Pace. My co- host, 13 00:00:47,070 --> 00:00:50,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: Peloton instructor, Becs Gentry. Hey Becs. 14 00:00:50,489 --> 00:00:52,559 Becs Gentry: Hello. How are you? 15 00:00:52,918 --> 00:00:56,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh, I'm great because we are about to talk to 16 00:00:57,420 --> 00:01:01,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: two of the all- time legends in the sport of 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: distance running. Can you even believe that we're going to 18 00:01:04,590 --> 00:01:07,319 Rob Simmelkjaer: be sitting down and talking to these two individuals? 19 00:01:08,130 --> 00:01:12,810 Becs Gentry: No, I'm nervous. I'm so nervous and starstruck. Like Sifan, I love 20 00:01:12,810 --> 00:01:19,020 Becs Gentry: her. I love her. I'm obsessed with her. And Eliud, 21 00:01:19,410 --> 00:01:23,850 Becs Gentry: I met him for the first time when I ran 22 00:01:23,850 --> 00:01:29,220 Becs Gentry: Berlin Marathon, which is almost exactly now, oh my gosh, 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,620 Becs Gentry: eight years ago and this is weird that it's exactly 24 00:01:34,620 --> 00:01:37,050 Becs Gentry: to the date pretty much that I first met him 25 00:01:37,050 --> 00:01:39,539 Becs Gentry: and tripped over my words because it's going to happen 26 00:01:39,540 --> 00:01:42,150 Becs Gentry: again. I'm going to trip over my words and I'm 27 00:01:42,150 --> 00:01:45,360 Becs Gentry: going to look at these two and just see greatness 28 00:01:45,450 --> 00:01:48,540 Becs Gentry: and I cannot wait for our listeners to hear this conversation. 29 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's so exciting. As Becs teased, we are going to 30 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:58,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: have Eliud Kipchoge and Sifan Hassan joining us here on Set the Pace. 31 00:01:58,110 --> 00:02:01,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: And boy, how much excitement is there for this conversation. 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: We'll get in a minute to why they're joining us 33 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:07,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: on set the pace. That's some exciting news as well. 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: But Becs, you and I are seeing each other for the 35 00:02:10,050 --> 00:02:11,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: first time in a couple of days. I got a 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: chance to spend some quality time with you on Sunday 37 00:02:14,340 --> 00:02:17,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: at the New Balance Fifth Avenue Mile in person. It 38 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:21,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: was a wet day, but I felt like it worked. 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: The rain kind of tapered off in time for the 40 00:02:25,020 --> 00:02:28,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: pro races and a lot of the races, the NYPD, 41 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:30,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: FDNY race late in the day. A lot of the 42 00:02:30,630 --> 00:02:33,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: early runners definitely had to run in some rain. It 43 00:02:33,060 --> 00:02:35,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: was wet, no doubt about it. So for those running 44 00:02:35,490 --> 00:02:38,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: at 7: 30, 8:00, 8:30 in the morning, it was a wet run, 45 00:02:38,820 --> 00:02:40,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: but it was only a mile and- 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:41,281 Becs Gentry: Exactly. 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... it was cool and a lot of people thought 48 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:46,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: it was really cool to run in that rain, so it 49 00:02:47,130 --> 00:02:49,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: turned out to be a pretty good day for more than 9, 000 50 00:02:49,980 --> 00:02:51,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: runners in 30 heats. 51 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:56,490 Becs Gentry: Exactly, and I think that is one point to shout out New York 52 00:02:56,490 --> 00:03:00,600 Becs Gentry: Roadrunners for the organization of this event. Being that it 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,169 Becs Gentry: was wet and rainy being that it was only one 54 00:03:04,169 --> 00:03:07,560 Becs Gentry: mile, but the fact that you guys are so organized 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,520 Becs Gentry: in getting 30 heats of people rolling on this mile 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,600 Becs Gentry: and it was so, so well done. So huge congratulations on 57 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:19,320 Becs Gentry: all of those 9, 000 plus smiles and we saw 58 00:03:19,410 --> 00:03:21,240 Becs Gentry: so many smiles this weekend. 59 00:03:22,110 --> 00:03:25,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, thank you Becs. I'll accept thanks on behalf of the team who did 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: a tremendous job on Sunday as they always do, putting 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: on a great best in class experience, as we say 62 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:34,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: for our athletes, and it was an exciting day for 63 00:03:34,590 --> 00:03:37,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: the pro runners. Our friend who we had on set 64 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:41,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: the pace last week, Olympic bronze medalist, Yared Nuguse won the 65 00:03:41,670 --> 00:03:45,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: men's race at a time of 3: 47.7. That was 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: the third- fastest time in event history. And man, that 67 00:03:50,370 --> 00:03:51,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: race was just- 68 00:03:51,510 --> 00:03:52,230 Becs Gentry: It was tight. 69 00:03:52,290 --> 00:03:55,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: Tight from the world, go right to the finish line. 70 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: I don't think anybody really was clear that Yared was going 71 00:03:58,770 --> 00:03:59,131 Rob Simmelkjaer: to win until the last maybe 10 strides. 72 00:03:59,131 --> 00:04:04,860 Becs Gentry: No. I mean, you and I weren't and we were right on the finish line. I'm not saying my 73 00:04:04,860 --> 00:04:07,470 Becs Gentry: eyesight is terrible, so I was squinting my way through 74 00:04:07,470 --> 00:04:09,840 Becs Gentry: the rain just trying to see who had a toe 75 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,470 Becs Gentry: ahead. But Parker Wolf, Drew Hunter and Yared would just, 76 00:04:13,650 --> 00:04:15,780 Becs Gentry: they were kind of trading off step by step. It 77 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:20,940 Becs Gentry: was that close until Yared, just... If you watch back 78 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:24,810 Becs Gentry: any of the footage, Rob, you can see the grit 79 00:04:24,930 --> 00:04:29,100 Becs Gentry: in their faces. I mean there was some digging deep 80 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:32,070 Becs Gentry: happening for the final race of the season for a couple 81 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:34,800 Becs Gentry: of them at least there to kind of get over 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Becs Gentry: that line and oh, Yared's smile when they... I mean all of their smiles, but I mean I love, 83 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,000 Becs Gentry: I adore Yared Nuguse. His smile and his elation at that 84 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Becs Gentry: finish was beautiful to see. 85 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:50,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: It was, he's a wonderful young man and it was nice to 86 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:53,339 Rob Simmelkjaer: see him get a positive finish to his season after 87 00:04:53,339 --> 00:04:56,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: the disappointment of not making it to the World Championships 88 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: in Tokyo. So congratulations to Yared. The men's race, Becs, 89 00:05:00,540 --> 00:05:04,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: had 23 finishers under four minutes. That's a record. And 90 00:05:04,740 --> 00:05:08,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: you know Becs, it's interesting watching the pro races on the 91 00:05:08,940 --> 00:05:11,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: road like that and it's just this straight line race, 92 00:05:11,850 --> 00:05:17,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: right? There's no inside, there's no outside, there's no turn 93 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: to kind of sometimes create the tactics around how to 94 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: pass, right? I mean, everybody's just going in their straight 95 00:05:24,330 --> 00:05:27,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: line and it was interesting to watch that play out 96 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: in such a tight men's race, the women's race, not 97 00:05:30,270 --> 00:05:33,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: quite as tight. Gracie Morris won it with a time 98 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:38,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: of 4: 15.5 and that by the way, was also 99 00:05:38,820 --> 00:05:43,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: quite speedy. The third- fastest time in event history, and 100 00:05:43,050 --> 00:05:45,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: Gracie was kind of a little bit of an upset 101 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:50,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: there. She finished fifth last year, out kicked Kayley DELAY 102 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: this year and the defending champion Carissa Schweitzer. Not a 103 00:05:54,450 --> 00:05:57,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: household name for a lot of fans Becs, but boy 104 00:05:57,450 --> 00:06:00,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: was so happy to have a real breakthrough moment like that. 105 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:06,420 Becs Gentry: She was. Look at that, two of them getting their first time wins 106 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:12,210 Becs Gentry: and both the third- fastest time in event history. That's 107 00:06:12,210 --> 00:06:16,320 Becs Gentry: quite cool. I love matching steps. But Gracie was thrilled. 108 00:06:16,350 --> 00:06:20,550 Becs Gentry: She was absolutely over the moon. And in relation to 109 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:22,890 Becs Gentry: the mile to the distance that they covered, she really 110 00:06:22,890 --> 00:06:27,330 Becs Gentry: did out kick the other runners there, she broke away 111 00:06:27,390 --> 00:06:30,660 Becs Gentry: and she said in the post- race interview that I 112 00:06:30,660 --> 00:06:34,410 Becs Gentry: got to speak to her, she said that she saw 113 00:06:34,410 --> 00:06:39,029 Becs Gentry: Carissa hold on for the halfway marker. 114 00:06:39,060 --> 00:06:39,061 Rob Simmelkjaer: Bonus. Yes. 115 00:06:39,061 --> 00:06:39,510 Becs Gentry: The bonus. 116 00:06:39,930 --> 00:06:43,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: The bonus for that who leads at the halfway point 117 00:06:44,790 --> 00:06:47,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: and that can inject some interesting decision- making into this race. 118 00:06:48,420 --> 00:06:51,210 Becs Gentry: Absolutely. And she says she watched Carissa go for that 119 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:54,330 Becs Gentry: and saw her sort of dropped back. I guess they 120 00:06:54,330 --> 00:06:59,430 Becs Gentry: noticed these small things to the unbeknowing, unprofessional miler eye. 121 00:06:59,430 --> 00:07:02,190 Becs Gentry: We don't really see that. And she said that's when 122 00:07:02,190 --> 00:07:05,400 Becs Gentry: she made her move. She just knew, and boy did 123 00:07:05,460 --> 00:07:08,370 Becs Gentry: she make her move. She was a good few strides 124 00:07:08,430 --> 00:07:13,440 Becs Gentry: ahead of the other women who have really performed in 125 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Becs Gentry: stronger ways this season and at this race before. So 126 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,060 Becs Gentry: huge congratulations to Gracie, Puma team there. She's going to 127 00:07:21,060 --> 00:07:22,770 Becs Gentry: be a household name. I can see it, and she's 128 00:07:23,340 --> 00:07:27,000 Becs Gentry: a really, really wonderful, wonderful young woman. 129 00:07:27,060 --> 00:07:30,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah. That really came across in your interview with her, by the way. 130 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: Great job on the interviews for our broadcast Becs. It 131 00:07:33,450 --> 00:07:35,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: was great to see you there at the finish line 132 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: interviewing all these great pro athletes and you also got 133 00:07:39,510 --> 00:07:42,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: a chance to interview some of the participants in the 134 00:07:42,540 --> 00:07:47,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: first ever Broadway Mile, and that was a stunning success. 135 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:52,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: We had nearly 70 Broadway performers and theater professionals competing 136 00:07:52,020 --> 00:07:54,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: in that first ever Broadway Mile. Not only did they 137 00:07:54,630 --> 00:07:57,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: come out raise money, give the fans something fun to 138 00:07:57,930 --> 00:08:02,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: cheer for, but they also raised $ 15,000 for Broadway Cares, 139 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:06,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: Equity Fights AIDS, an incredibly important cause. And it was 140 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:09,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: a lot of fun to see these great folks from 141 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:12,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: our Broadway community out there enjoying the day on Fifth 142 00:08:12,660 --> 00:08:17,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: Avenue, the musical Mamma Mia won the Team trophy with 143 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: Jordan Litz, Thomas Dougler and Hannah McGrath posting the fastest 144 00:08:22,590 --> 00:08:28,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: mens, non binary and women's Broadway Mile times. So that was a great 145 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: day and it really added a lot to this event so you 146 00:08:31,230 --> 00:08:34,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: can all expect to see another Broadway Mile next year 147 00:08:34,710 --> 00:08:36,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: and we'll make it even bigger and better. It was a 148 00:08:36,660 --> 00:08:37,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: lot of fun. 149 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,880 Becs Gentry: And our previous guest, Jordan and Ellie will be absolutely 150 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,200 Becs Gentry: elated to see that number raised for Broadway Cares, Equity 151 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,390 Becs Gentry: Fights AIDS. They were, if you haven't listened to the 152 00:08:48,390 --> 00:08:51,090 Becs Gentry: episode, go back, listen to it from a couple of 153 00:08:51,090 --> 00:08:55,469 Becs Gentry: weeks ago to understand exactly where and what that will 154 00:08:55,470 --> 00:08:59,040 Becs Gentry: be going towards because I think Jordan described it so 155 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Becs Gentry: eloquently and with so much personal passion, it's something we 156 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,290 Becs Gentry: should all understand more about. 157 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, yeah, it was a great day. So congrats to all of our Broadway 158 00:09:08,340 --> 00:09:11,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: Mile finishers. All right, Becs, we've talked about a lot 159 00:09:11,610 --> 00:09:15,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: of the fast runners, the pros and the Broadway milers, 160 00:09:15,270 --> 00:09:17,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: but we have not focused on one of the real 161 00:09:17,970 --> 00:09:21,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: stars of the day, I thought, which was your daughter 162 00:09:21,809 --> 00:09:26,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: Tallulah running her first ever New York Roadrunners race. That's 163 00:09:26,370 --> 00:09:31,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: right. She ran stage one and came running down that 164 00:09:31,410 --> 00:09:37,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: Fifth Avenue stretch with Austin and was just adorable. Won her 165 00:09:37,050 --> 00:09:40,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: heat with Austin's assistance, but we won't count that. Won 166 00:09:40,290 --> 00:09:45,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: her heat and just the smiles on her face, your face, 167 00:09:45,090 --> 00:09:49,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: Austin's face, that to me was just what it's all 168 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:52,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: about at New York Roadrunners. It's on your social by 169 00:09:52,020 --> 00:09:53,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: the way. I love the post of it on your 170 00:09:53,790 --> 00:09:58,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: social, what was it like Bax for you to see your pride and 171 00:09:58,020 --> 00:10:01,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: joy, your daughter cross her very first finish line? 172 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:04,439 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh, Rob, that was... I mean first of 173 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,440 Becs Gentry: all, thank you to all the team for getting her 174 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,650 Becs Gentry: in and signed up. I love leaving everything to the last 175 00:10:10,650 --> 00:10:13,710 Becs Gentry: minute in my races and apparently I'm putting that onto 176 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:16,590 Becs Gentry: my daughter as well. So big shout outs to Matt 177 00:10:16,590 --> 00:10:22,110 Becs Gentry: and Christine for getting her in there, but she was 178 00:10:22,110 --> 00:10:26,670 Becs Gentry: so excited. I mean she came to the broadcast booth 179 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:32,309 Becs Gentry: beforehand. I had her bib and she was just, I 180 00:10:32,309 --> 00:10:34,260 Becs Gentry: felt like she was in the zone, she was standing... 181 00:10:34,590 --> 00:10:37,950 Becs Gentry: Tallulah doesn't stand still, but she was standing so still 182 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,920 Becs Gentry: letting me pin her bib on her and she was 183 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,700 Becs Gentry: just like, "Yeah, I got this mom." And Austin took her 184 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:47,970 Becs Gentry: to the start line and she was surrounded by all the 185 00:10:47,970 --> 00:10:51,360 Becs Gentry: other kids and parents because obviously of their age, they're not old 186 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,160 Becs Gentry: enough to quite run it by themselves. 187 00:10:55,050 --> 00:10:55,439 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, they've almost all got parents running down that stretch with them. 188 00:10:56,490 --> 00:10:59,970 Becs Gentry: Next year I think she'll just go for it. And 189 00:11:00,090 --> 00:11:02,939 Becs Gentry: I was about to do my first pre- record hit for 190 00:11:02,940 --> 00:11:05,069 Becs Gentry: the broadcast, so I was already at the finish line 191 00:11:05,580 --> 00:11:08,670 Becs Gentry: and I could just see her standing there and she was 192 00:11:08,670 --> 00:11:10,589 Becs Gentry: in Austin's arms to begin with and she was sort 193 00:11:10,590 --> 00:11:13,620 Becs Gentry: of looking around at everyone taking it all in. She's 194 00:11:13,620 --> 00:11:16,710 Becs Gentry: such an observant child and the minute he put her 195 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:18,540 Becs Gentry: on the floor, I could see her little legs were 196 00:11:18,540 --> 00:11:21,929 Becs Gentry: starting to go. She's a very fast runner, naturally. I 197 00:11:21,929 --> 00:11:22,920 Becs Gentry: don't know where she gets that from. 198 00:11:23,010 --> 00:11:25,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah. Who knows where that can possibly come from. 199 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,339 Becs Gentry: And she's strong. She's strong. She is a absolute force 200 00:11:32,340 --> 00:11:34,830 Becs Gentry: when it comes to her strength for her age. Her 201 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:39,960 Becs Gentry: pediatricians always said she's a very, very strong girl and 202 00:11:40,590 --> 00:11:42,449 Becs Gentry: she went for it. I think she was dragging Austin. 203 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,090 Becs Gentry: I mean Austin was trying to keep it together there. 204 00:11:45,510 --> 00:11:49,050 Becs Gentry: And the smile on her face, she truly enjoyed it. 205 00:11:49,050 --> 00:11:50,850 Becs Gentry: I mean you do look around, you saw other kids 206 00:11:51,059 --> 00:11:54,330 Becs Gentry: crying, being bribed with a bagel or whatever it was 207 00:11:54,330 --> 00:11:57,900 Becs Gentry: to get over the finish line, but T was just 208 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,750 Becs Gentry: boom. Off she went and I think everybody saw on 209 00:12:01,530 --> 00:12:05,250 Becs Gentry: the broadcast her elation, she wanted to go again. She was like, "Again, again." 210 00:12:07,140 --> 00:12:10,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: It was so special to see. She gave you and Austin 211 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:13,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: a little kiss afterwards and I was so happy for you guys. 212 00:12:13,860 --> 00:12:16,469 Rob Simmelkjaer: It would look like just a great memory for you all. So 213 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:20,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: I hope you got some video and some great pictures and that's- 214 00:12:20,550 --> 00:12:24,360 Becs Gentry: Yeah, I'll have to get the official video from the incredible cameraman Kayle 215 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,459 Becs Gentry: who was with us then in that moment. I have 216 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:28,950 Becs Gentry: to try and find that and her bib will be 217 00:12:28,950 --> 00:12:30,150 Becs Gentry: framed for sure. 218 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:34,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: A hundred percent, a hundred percent. Congratulations to Tallulah and 219 00:12:34,020 --> 00:12:36,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: to you in Austin. That was really a special moment. 220 00:12:40,380 --> 00:12:44,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, Becs, let's talk about my training for a minute or 221 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: two here. Here I am, five weeks or so out 222 00:12:47,820 --> 00:12:53,761 Rob Simmelkjaer: from the Chicago Marathon on October 12th. 223 00:12:53,761 --> 00:12:53,761 Becs Gentry: Oh my gosh. 224 00:12:53,761 --> 00:12:57,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: The training for these endurance events, it's just not a straight 225 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: line. We have weeks that are great and then we 226 00:13:00,780 --> 00:13:05,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: have weeks where we feel exhausted and there are setbacks 227 00:13:05,130 --> 00:13:08,579 Rob Simmelkjaer: and you start to question things and I'm having one 228 00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:11,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: of those weeks this week. It's funny, I had a 229 00:13:11,309 --> 00:13:13,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: great day on Labor Day as you'll remember, running the 230 00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:17,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: New Haven half and that was great. And then there 231 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: was a stretch of heat and humidity that we had 232 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,459 Rob Simmelkjaer: here over this past weekend. A lot of folks might 233 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:26,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: remember Saturday in the New York area the day before 234 00:13:26,309 --> 00:13:28,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Fifth Avenue Mile and before that front came in 235 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: that produced the rain on Sunday. It was a brutal 236 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:34,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: day. It was very hot and humid and I wasn't 237 00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:36,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: even trying to go along that day Becs, I actually decided 238 00:13:36,780 --> 00:13:38,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: that I was going to go a little bit short because 239 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,679 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm going to go long with the Bronx ten- miler 240 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: on Sunday and then long again for our eighteen- miler 241 00:13:43,830 --> 00:13:45,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the park than a week after that. So I 242 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:47,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: was going to give myself a little bit of a 243 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:51,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: break this week and run like 10, but Becs, that 244 00:13:51,059 --> 00:13:53,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: was hard to get through. I mean it was so 245 00:13:53,910 --> 00:13:57,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: brutal and I just felt like my body was just 246 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: blowing up. The heat and humidity is tough for me. 247 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: And it's just you're going to have those pluses and 248 00:14:04,950 --> 00:14:07,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: minuses. I guess one question I have for you, Becs, 249 00:14:07,830 --> 00:14:11,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: is when you do hit a patch like this where 250 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: you start to just feel worn down... And this has 251 00:14:14,220 --> 00:14:16,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: been a long block for me. I'm doing like fifteen- 252 00:14:16,260 --> 00:14:18,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: week training block. I've never really done one that long. 253 00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:22,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: What do you do? What do you do? I did decide to 254 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:25,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: take the foot off the pedal a little bit just 255 00:14:25,230 --> 00:14:28,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: to catch my breath and try to recharge a bit, 256 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:31,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: but what are your thoughts on taking a break and 257 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: that deload week as it were, when you start to 258 00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:37,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: feel like it's really getting heavy for you? 259 00:14:37,830 --> 00:14:41,580 Becs Gentry: Yeah, great question. It's something that I think inevitably we all 260 00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:43,950 Becs Gentry: go through. Some of us will experience it deeper than 261 00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:48,210 Becs Gentry: others. I think it's so important to have deload weeks. 262 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,630 Becs Gentry: Reducing the intensity. That's all that really means. You keep 263 00:14:51,630 --> 00:14:56,460 Becs Gentry: up your routine but your intensity, your duration, paces, everything 264 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:59,280 Becs Gentry: gets a little bit less. I tend to program people 265 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,940 Becs Gentry: at least two deload weeks in an 18- week program. 266 00:15:02,940 --> 00:15:05,130 Becs Gentry: Obviously the 18- week program includes two weeks of taper, 267 00:15:05,130 --> 00:15:07,980 Becs Gentry: so you're really actually training for 16 weeks within that 268 00:15:07,980 --> 00:15:12,840 Becs Gentry: will be two deload weeks because not just mentally but 269 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,820 Becs Gentry: physically, the body, as you say, it starts to feel 270 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:19,560 Becs Gentry: tired and it's very, very frustrating when you're putting in 271 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,460 Becs Gentry: all of this time and effort into what you want 272 00:15:23,460 --> 00:15:27,000 Becs Gentry: to be a linear progression towards the start finish line 273 00:15:27,780 --> 00:15:32,520 Becs Gentry: and you feel like you are plateauing and you're not 274 00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:37,230 Becs Gentry: making any progression. I think when you have those deload weeks, you allow your 275 00:15:37,230 --> 00:15:40,260 Becs Gentry: body to catch up with all of the hard work 276 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:42,780 Becs Gentry: that's being done and I think mentally that is a 277 00:15:42,780 --> 00:15:46,680 Becs Gentry: huge light bulb moment that we all need to understand 278 00:15:47,190 --> 00:15:51,720 Becs Gentry: is that it's okay. That's your body's sign of saying, " 279 00:15:51,780 --> 00:15:54,540 Becs Gentry: Hey, I'm going to stick with you here but you 280 00:15:54,540 --> 00:15:57,630 Becs Gentry: need to stick with me. I need to just reel 281 00:15:57,630 --> 00:16:00,570 Becs Gentry: it back a little bit. I need all these adaptations 282 00:16:00,870 --> 00:16:06,840 Becs Gentry: to fulfill themselves and then we will keep going." Because 283 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,410 Becs Gentry: if you keep pushing, pushing, pushing, most of us are 284 00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:12,930 Becs Gentry: not able to do that because we have 101 other 285 00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:16,200 Becs Gentry: things going on outside of our running training and we 286 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,440 Becs Gentry: may be subconsciously pushing in those areas of our lives 287 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:24,660 Becs Gentry: as well. Be it career, personal life, and it will 288 00:16:24,660 --> 00:16:33,780 Becs Gentry: always, always come out physically. Always. You can be concerned 289 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:38,190 Becs Gentry: and stressed about something at work, a presentation, you'll feel 290 00:16:38,190 --> 00:16:41,070 Becs Gentry: it in your traps, perhaps in tension or maybe you'll 291 00:16:41,070 --> 00:16:45,210 Becs Gentry: have your lower back and it's just your body just 292 00:16:45,390 --> 00:16:49,680 Becs Gentry: gives off these signs. So have that in your mind 293 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:53,670 Becs Gentry: and yes, please pull it back. Just pull it back. 294 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:56,370 Becs Gentry: And it's up to you whether you pull back duration 295 00:16:56,370 --> 00:17:00,840 Becs Gentry: or intensity, mileage decrease is absolutely fine on these drop 296 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Becs Gentry: down weeks. In fact, it's encouraged. If you want to 297 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,470 Becs Gentry: keep the mileage up because mentally for you you want 298 00:17:07,470 --> 00:17:10,619 Becs Gentry: to keep increasing mileage, fine, decrease your pace, take it 299 00:17:10,619 --> 00:17:13,410 Becs Gentry: away from marathon pace and just take it to long, 300 00:17:13,410 --> 00:17:19,409 Becs Gentry: steady, slow running almost don't look at your watch, you know? You know what I mean? You 301 00:17:19,410 --> 00:17:22,649 Becs Gentry: just run, you're just running, you're just moving because in the 302 00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:24,899 Becs Gentry: end it's just getting the miles in the legs. So 303 00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:28,950 Becs Gentry: you have to work with your coach to understand, all right, I'm 304 00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:32,490 Becs Gentry: a distance person or I'm a time person or a pace 305 00:17:32,490 --> 00:17:34,560 Becs Gentry: person. Which one's going to make you feel better or 306 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,899 Becs Gentry: worse? Conversely. And just maybe your speed sessions that week 307 00:17:39,930 --> 00:17:42,630 Becs Gentry: aren't so prescriptive. They aren't like, " All right, you're going 308 00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:45,330 Becs Gentry: to hit your one- mile repeat time." It's going to be, " 309 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:49,770 Becs Gentry: Hey, we're just going to do three minutes hard effort." 310 00:17:49,859 --> 00:17:52,619 Becs Gentry: You tell you what your hard effort is in that 311 00:17:52,619 --> 00:17:55,619 Becs Gentry: moment and you're going to do 10 three-minute hard effort 312 00:17:55,619 --> 00:18:00,300 Becs Gentry: intervals and hard effort is that day. It is pertinent 313 00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:03,030 Becs Gentry: to that exact day. There's no numbers attached to it, 314 00:18:03,030 --> 00:18:06,449 Becs Gentry: so you can't feel disappointed because you're not like, " Well, 315 00:18:06,750 --> 00:18:13,080 Becs Gentry: that wasn't my mile pace." So it's about offloading all 316 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,350 Becs Gentry: the stress mentally and physically for those weeks. I think 317 00:18:16,350 --> 00:18:18,720 Becs Gentry: you did the right thing by just taking your foot 318 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,930 Becs Gentry: off the gas and it's a great time to think 319 00:18:21,930 --> 00:18:27,210 Becs Gentry: about food, sleep, rest, where can you on the next 320 00:18:27,210 --> 00:18:29,280 Becs Gentry: six weeks, where can you squeeze in a nap? I 321 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,100 Becs Gentry: know you're CEO of a company, very difficult to do that. 322 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:36,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sleep. Sleep. All I think about is sleep. Part of it is I'm really 323 00:18:36,750 --> 00:18:41,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: trying to enforce my bedtimes. I'm not letting that, oh, 324 00:18:41,970 --> 00:18:43,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: I really want to watch one more quarter of that 325 00:18:43,770 --> 00:18:46,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: NFL game when the game's going to run until 11:30 326 00:18:46,980 --> 00:18:48,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: at night. You know what, I'll find out what happens in the 327 00:18:48,810 --> 00:18:51,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: morning 10 o'clock I'm shutting it down, right? Because I 328 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: do feel that makes a big difference. I've got the 329 00:18:54,869 --> 00:18:58,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: new balance, Bronx 10 miler, which by the way, Becs is 330 00:18:58,740 --> 00:19:01,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: low key, one of my favorite races of the year 331 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:03,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: on the New York Roadrunner's calendar. I love this race. 332 00:19:03,090 --> 00:19:03,840 Becs Gentry: I've never run it. 333 00:19:04,859 --> 00:19:06,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh my god. 334 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:06,810 Becs Gentry: I know. 335 00:19:06,869 --> 00:19:10,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: You have got to come out and run this race. It 336 00:19:10,050 --> 00:19:13,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: is so much fun. It is such a great course. 337 00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:16,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: There is such great energy. I haven't missed this race 338 00:19:16,260 --> 00:19:18,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: once since I've been here and this is not going 339 00:19:18,780 --> 00:19:20,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: to be the year I'm going to miss it either. So that's 340 00:19:20,670 --> 00:19:23,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: a 10 miler. My plan is to run that Becs and 341 00:19:23,609 --> 00:19:27,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: then add 10, I'm thinking maybe 10 marathon pace, 10 342 00:19:27,869 --> 00:19:30,271 Rob Simmelkjaer: at like an easier pace on sat on Sunday. 343 00:19:30,271 --> 00:19:34,619 Becs Gentry: Yeah, just enjoy the miles in the Bronx, do that 344 00:19:34,619 --> 00:19:38,250 Becs Gentry: or whatever and then where you're by yourself head, you 345 00:19:38,250 --> 00:19:40,680 Becs Gentry: could almost head straight to the west side highway and 346 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,879 Becs Gentry: do some flat fast. 347 00:19:41,879 --> 00:19:42,149 Rob Simmelkjaer: Something nice and flat. Yeah. 348 00:19:42,930 --> 00:19:45,990 Becs Gentry: Yeah. Something flat and fast. You'll be in the city. You can 349 00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:48,840 Becs Gentry: just get amongst everybody else who's out there running the 350 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,080 Becs Gentry: miles, which is also very uplifting. I think sometimes maybe 351 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,080 Becs Gentry: for you in Connecticut, when you do these longer miles, 352 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,888 Becs Gentry: there's less runners out there to give you that motivation 353 00:19:58,888 --> 00:19:59,580 Becs Gentry: and it's hilly. 354 00:19:59,580 --> 00:19:59,908 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah. That's so true. 355 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:03,090 Becs Gentry: But in New York we're so lucky because there are 356 00:20:03,150 --> 00:20:06,810 Becs Gentry: hundreds of thousands of people probably training for these four 357 00:20:06,810 --> 00:20:10,109 Becs Gentry: races right now. And so Saturday, Sunday, well even Friday 358 00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:13,080 Becs Gentry: at the moment, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, there is just hordes 359 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,210 Becs Gentry: of people getting those miles in and you feel that 360 00:20:15,210 --> 00:20:19,619 Becs Gentry: camaraderie, it gives you that energy when you are feeling 361 00:20:19,619 --> 00:20:23,340 Becs Gentry: a little bit, " Oh god, five more weeks. I've got this." 362 00:20:24,898 --> 00:20:26,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, that's where I'm at. That's where I'm at. All right, well thanks Becs. 363 00:20:26,550 --> 00:20:26,971 Becs Gentry: Cut that New York love. 364 00:20:26,971 --> 00:20:31,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, I'm going to need it. Thank you for that coach. Appreciate it. All in all, 365 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,139 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm still feeling good, so just got to get through 366 00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:36,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: a couple of these tough weeks as we approach some 367 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:38,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: of those peak peak training runs. I know a lot 368 00:20:38,970 --> 00:20:40,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: of you training for New York are still on the 369 00:20:40,859 --> 00:20:45,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: upswing towards some of those, so just keep it together 370 00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:48,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: and obviously stay positive and do what you need to 371 00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:50,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: do for your body because we all know it's a 372 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:53,879 Rob Simmelkjaer: long haul and making it to the starting line is one of 373 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: the biggest accomplishments in running a marathon. All right, Becs, 374 00:20:57,930 --> 00:21:01,379 Rob Simmelkjaer: we have such an exciting announcement this week in New 375 00:21:01,380 --> 00:21:05,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: York. Roadrunners two of the greatest marathoners in history are 376 00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:08,159 Rob Simmelkjaer: about to take on the TCS New York City Marathon 377 00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:13,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: for the very first time. Eliud Kipchoge and Sifan Hassan will be 378 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: joining us today to talk about their recent race in 379 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:18,631 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sydney. That's right. They both ran Sydney. 380 00:21:18,631 --> 00:21:18,632 Becs Gentry: Just a small one. 381 00:21:18,632 --> 00:21:27,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: Just a little bit of an effort. Sifan Hassan won the TCS Sydney Marathon, ELiud Kipchoge finished in ninth place. So 382 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the personal philosophies 383 00:21:31,530 --> 00:21:34,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: that drive them and I love hearing Kipchoge talk about 384 00:21:34,830 --> 00:21:38,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: his philosophy after Sydney and why they are taking on 385 00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:42,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: the 2025 TCS New York City Marathon less than a couple 386 00:21:42,150 --> 00:21:44,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: of months after running Sydney. So we can't wait to 387 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: hear from both of them. We also have a very 388 00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:51,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: special member moment today on this 24th anniversary of 911, 389 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: I spoke with FDNY Battalion chief Dennis Sweeney. He's not 390 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,709 Rob Simmelkjaer: only a marathon runner but also a vital partner to 391 00:21:58,710 --> 00:22:01,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: both New York City and New York Roadrunners. Our races 392 00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:04,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: and our city are safer because of Dennis and his 393 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: colleagues at FDNY and so looking forward to that conversation 394 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,439 Rob Simmelkjaer: as we do approach the 24th anniversary of 911. Finally, 395 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: today Meb will be here to talk about the 2025 New York 396 00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:19,199 Rob Simmelkjaer: City Marathon by the mile. He continues that by the 397 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: Mile Countdown and he's going to be halfway there today. 398 00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:25,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: He's going to be talking about Miles 13 through 15. 399 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,950 Becs Gentry: Fuel your training with pre and post- run meals from 400 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:32,699 Becs Gentry: Cook Unity packed with protein and energizing carbs from top 401 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:36,030 Becs Gentry: chefs and a sport dietitian. All meals are delivered to your 402 00:22:36,030 --> 00:22:40,200 Becs Gentry: home and ready to eat in two minutes. Head to Cookunity. 403 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:45,510 Becs Gentry: com forward slash NYRR and use the code MarathonMeals for 404 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:47,520 Becs Gentry: 50% off your first order. 405 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: Today on Set the Pace. We are joined by two 406 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:55,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: of the greatest marathoners of all time, Eliud Kipchoge and Sifan Hassan. 407 00:22:56,430 --> 00:23:00,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: Kipchoge at the age of 40 remains the philosopher king 408 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: of distance running. Still training under Patrick Tsang after more 409 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: than two decades, while balancing the highs and lows of 410 00:23:07,260 --> 00:23:10,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: recent seasons. And Hassan fresh off of her win at 411 00:23:10,830 --> 00:23:14,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Sydney Marathon and of course her historic Olympic triple 412 00:23:14,790 --> 00:23:19,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: in Paris continues to push boundaries across distances few thought 413 00:23:19,230 --> 00:23:22,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: possible. Neither of these two legends has ever run the 414 00:23:22,830 --> 00:23:26,369 Rob Simmelkjaer: TCS New York City Marathon until now. That's right. They 415 00:23:26,369 --> 00:23:29,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: will both be joining us in 2025 and we are 416 00:23:29,850 --> 00:23:33,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: so honored to welcome them both to New York and 417 00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:36,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: to set the pace for the very first time. Eliud, 418 00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:39,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sifan, it is an honor to speak to both of 419 00:23:39,780 --> 00:23:41,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: you. Thank you so much for joining us. 420 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,300 Sifan Hassan: Thank you so much. 421 00:23:42,660 --> 00:23:43,021 Eliud Kipchoge: Thank you too. 422 00:23:43,021 --> 00:23:50,040 Becs Gentry: It is... I feel like I'm speaking to well you are to me you are both royalty to 423 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:56,880 Becs Gentry: this runner over here. I am overwhelmed with great gratitude 424 00:23:57,150 --> 00:24:01,320 Becs Gentry: for having you here today. I think Eliud actually you 425 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,170 Becs Gentry: and I met eight years ago almost exactly eight years 426 00:24:04,170 --> 00:24:07,918 Becs Gentry: ago in Berlin after you absolutely crushed your race there 427 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:11,340 Becs Gentry: and Sifan, we are yet to meet in person, but I 428 00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:13,470 Becs Gentry: promise when I see you in New York, I'm going 429 00:24:13,470 --> 00:24:15,119 Becs Gentry: to be the weirdo who gives you a big squeeze 430 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,230 Becs Gentry: because you are such an inspiration to everybody but especially 431 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:22,199 Becs Gentry: women in sport and my little girl is already going 432 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,950 Becs Gentry: to be idolizing you. So thank you for everything you both do 433 00:24:25,950 --> 00:24:27,480 Becs Gentry: to elevate this incredible sport. 434 00:24:27,869 --> 00:24:30,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: So let me start by asking both of you. Eliud, 435 00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:34,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: we'll start with you. What made you decide to run 436 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:38,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York this year? For the first time we've been 437 00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:41,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: waiting for you in New York. We have been dreaming 438 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: and hoping for this moment. You just ran Sydney as 439 00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:49,619 Rob Simmelkjaer: did Sifan, finished in ninth place. Had a great day. 440 00:24:49,619 --> 00:24:53,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: But why was this the year Eliud to finally run 441 00:24:53,609 --> 00:24:57,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York and collect your sixth Abbott World Marathon major star? 442 00:24:58,470 --> 00:25:01,230 Eliud Kipchoge: I think this is actually the best time actually for me 443 00:25:01,230 --> 00:25:06,390 Eliud Kipchoge: to line up at the starting line actually of the New 444 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:14,340 Eliud Kipchoge: York City Marathon. (inaudible) I really want to join 445 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:20,010 Eliud Kipchoge: those who actually the biggest crowd ever in this world, 446 00:25:20,010 --> 00:25:28,230 Eliud Kipchoge: I want to join them to click over 60,000 finishers or even 65,000 finishers this year. I want to join them and to be actually proud to talk that 447 00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:32,070 Eliud Kipchoge: I was among the group actually who actually break their 448 00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:37,709 Eliud Kipchoge: own records by the best and the highest ever finishers. I think New 449 00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:42,330 Eliud Kipchoge: York one is that it's the best course ever and I think it's good 450 00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:48,689 Eliud Kipchoge: for me to experience the wonderful city which I went to 451 00:25:48,690 --> 00:25:53,609 Eliud Kipchoge: walk all around city, see how fast the city is, 452 00:25:54,780 --> 00:25:57,270 Eliud Kipchoge: visit many people who actually love the sport and who 453 00:25:57,270 --> 00:26:02,909 Eliud Kipchoge: believes on what I'm actually saying and what I'm doing in New York. And those are the 454 00:26:02,910 --> 00:26:07,710 Eliud Kipchoge: factors that are making me to come to New York for 2025. 455 00:26:08,850 --> 00:26:14,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sifan, what about you? You just won the TCS Sydney Marathon 456 00:26:14,190 --> 00:26:17,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: so you might be a little tired from that but 457 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:20,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: we know from Paris that you don't get tired easily. 458 00:26:20,340 --> 00:26:23,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: So what is it that made you decide to run 459 00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:25,619 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York so soon after winning in Sydney? 460 00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:33,510 Sifan Hassan: Yeah, believe me for Marathon you get tired. In Paris because I did Marathon in the last day, after 461 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:36,600 Sifan Hassan: the Marathon I was broke but I was broke actually. 462 00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:41,310 Sifan Hassan: So it's like for Marathon, I'm so sorry. I haven't recovered yet from 463 00:26:41,490 --> 00:26:46,650 Sifan Hassan: Sydney Marathon. Yeah, to me, I just start three years 464 00:26:46,650 --> 00:26:50,040 Sifan Hassan: ago, two years ago, London. It's just fresh but still. I 465 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,580 Sifan Hassan: actually was planning to run last years in New York 466 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:59,940 Sifan Hassan: and I was thinking of it but really after Paris I was 467 00:27:00,150 --> 00:27:04,500 Sifan Hassan: emotionally damaged. Also physically. I was like not only because of 468 00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:08,010 Sifan Hassan: I ran marathon in Paris, I couldn't do. I was 469 00:27:08,010 --> 00:27:11,310 Sifan Hassan: sick, I couldn't recover. So that's why I did, I 470 00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:14,369 Sifan Hassan: say next year Inshallah I will do it. So that's 471 00:27:14,369 --> 00:27:16,830 Sifan Hassan: the reason I did this year and New York is to 472 00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:20,880 Sifan Hassan: me especially, it's very famous city. Everybody talk about it 473 00:27:21,270 --> 00:27:24,600 Sifan Hassan: and this is a big city. I don't know who doesn't know 474 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,550 Sifan Hassan: New York? So that's how big... I want to run in the big... As a child also 475 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,720 Sifan Hassan: more than America, I know New York this morning in 476 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,200 Sifan Hassan: Ethiopia, we know New York, everybody say New York. And 477 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,889 Sifan Hassan: also I've been in New York couple times, it's so 478 00:27:40,890 --> 00:27:43,859 Sifan Hassan: busy. I hope in the marathon we don't have that. No problem. 479 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,001 Sifan Hassan: I'll stretch. If it's so busy I would just stretch. (inaudible) 480 00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:52,859 Sifan Hassan: work, no problem. But it's again, that's the reason. Also, the 481 00:27:52,859 --> 00:27:57,090 Sifan Hassan: other reason they have a lot of fans, it's almost they have more than 482 00:27:57,090 --> 00:28:02,160 Sifan Hassan: a million fans around like they watching, a little public 483 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,790 Sifan Hassan: watching, they give you energy, they cheer you, you feel 484 00:28:05,790 --> 00:28:09,480 Sifan Hassan: like you are at World Chamber at the Olympics. They give you motivation 485 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,200 Sifan Hassan: that you also feel like that it give you meaning of running. It give 486 00:28:13,410 --> 00:28:16,020 Sifan Hassan: you meaning of marathon. So that is like, that's what I 487 00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:18,780 Sifan Hassan: excited most of the time about New York. When I 488 00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:22,320 Sifan Hassan: think of when I watch the New York Marathon, I 489 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,070 Sifan Hassan: see how many people are crazy watching. So magic I'm 490 00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:30,689 Sifan Hassan: running more than a million people watching it going to give me a lot of energy. 491 00:28:31,050 --> 00:28:33,480 Sifan Hassan: So this make me excited. 492 00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:38,130 Becs Gentry: That's a really beautiful message for not just the professional 493 00:28:38,130 --> 00:28:41,220 Becs Gentry: athletes but the everyday runners who might be embarking on 494 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:43,350 Becs Gentry: the TCS New York City Marathon for the first time 495 00:28:43,890 --> 00:28:48,840 Becs Gentry: are crowds here are the best in the world. Fact 496 00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:52,950 Becs Gentry: and you are correct, there's well over a million people 497 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:55,710 Becs Gentry: come out on the day to cheer you on every 498 00:28:55,710 --> 00:28:59,670 Becs Gentry: step of the way. You will not be alone. There 499 00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:03,690 Becs Gentry: will be New Yorkers on every corner and the energy 500 00:29:03,690 --> 00:29:06,990 Becs Gentry: gives every runner the impetus to get to that finish 501 00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:11,670 Becs Gentry: line so strong and it will be fast- paced. I 502 00:29:11,670 --> 00:29:15,570 Becs Gentry: will warn you, this city is very fast- paced but 503 00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:17,940 Becs Gentry: I'm sure your coaches and your teams will have your 504 00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:24,330 Becs Gentry: schedule accordingly calm when you're not around it, but it's 505 00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:28,830 Becs Gentry: infectious. It's truly the best day and I know that 506 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,010 Becs Gentry: hearing that you both are going to be here, it's 507 00:29:32,010 --> 00:29:35,520 Becs Gentry: probably going to attract another million people to the sidelines. 508 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,840 Becs Gentry: So soak it in. 509 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:41,520 Sifan Hassan: It's really great. Wherever I'm in New York, I feel 510 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,340 Sifan Hassan: like I'm human being because it's like woman should love, 511 00:29:44,340 --> 00:29:48,540 Sifan Hassan: be like that/ a lot of people around and we should... It's like a 512 00:29:48,540 --> 00:29:50,940 Sifan Hassan: lot of people. That's what I love actually. A lot 513 00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:54,480 Sifan Hassan: of people around and a lot of traffic also. I don't like the car, 514 00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:56,130 Sifan Hassan: but the people no problem. 515 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. I really love it. Eliud, what are 516 00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:02,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: your thoughts about New York? How much time have you 517 00:30:02,790 --> 00:30:05,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: spent in New York? Have you been here many times 518 00:30:05,310 --> 00:30:09,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: and what are you most looking forward to do in 519 00:30:09,090 --> 00:30:10,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York besides running the marathon? 520 00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:15,480 Eliud Kipchoge: I've been in New York many times. I like New 521 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,620 Eliud Kipchoge: York generally and besides the marathon I went to visit 522 00:30:23,250 --> 00:30:26,130 Eliud Kipchoge: most of the partners who actually believe in what I'm 523 00:30:26,130 --> 00:30:31,140 Eliud Kipchoge: saying, who believes actually in this channel of movement, in 524 00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:34,410 Eliud Kipchoge: this channel of American New York Running city and making 525 00:30:34,410 --> 00:30:39,090 Eliud Kipchoge: America Running nation or went to visit them to learn 526 00:30:39,090 --> 00:30:42,300 Eliud Kipchoge: from a lot of sports, visit the basketball to see 527 00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:47,010 Eliud Kipchoge: whether to learn, just get the knowledge visit ultimate UFC. If 528 00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:54,510 Eliud Kipchoge: that'll be lucky actually to have a fight in New York, I 529 00:30:54,510 --> 00:30:57,540 Eliud Kipchoge: would love to visit or even visit their team to 530 00:30:57,540 --> 00:31:01,860 Eliud Kipchoge: see what's happening. So a lot actually is in my 531 00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:06,270 Eliud Kipchoge: bucket list as far as New York is concerned. I hope 532 00:31:06,270 --> 00:31:08,160 Eliud Kipchoge: I'll finish them all before I leave New York. 533 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,780 Becs Gentry: Amazing, amazing. Sifan, whilst we're talking about start lines, you've 534 00:31:12,780 --> 00:31:16,530 Becs Gentry: been heard to say that you are one of the 535 00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:19,530 Becs Gentry: most scared people when it comes to the start line 536 00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:25,020 Becs Gentry: of your races, which I can believe it but I can 537 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,650 Becs Gentry: also, it just astounds me because of your profession and 538 00:31:28,650 --> 00:31:33,630 Becs Gentry: your expertise. But do you think that your fear sometimes 539 00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:34,530 Becs Gentry: makes you stronger? 540 00:31:34,770 --> 00:31:37,110 Sifan Hassan: I used to say why I have that, but when I when get 541 00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:42,990 Sifan Hassan: long grow up, I get matured and more wiser. I 542 00:31:42,990 --> 00:31:47,280 Sifan Hassan: think it's also, yeah because the fear is actually you care 543 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,550 Sifan Hassan: about that things. I think I really care about that. 544 00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:59,070 Sifan Hassan: Even most of the time when I look back, as a young, I scared most of the time for 1,500 then 800. So when I look, because I really care about 1,500 back then, but now I think I was scared of marathon because I 545 00:31:59,730 --> 00:32:09,630 Sifan Hassan: look back, I think, oh I don't like, okay, I enjoy marathon because 546 00:32:09,630 --> 00:32:13,110 Sifan Hassan: most of the time it just luckily I get away winning it, that thing, but I really 547 00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:16,260 Sifan Hassan: deep down I care so much. So that's why I'm think I'm 548 00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:19,230 Sifan Hassan: scared. Maybe I even deep down I want to be 549 00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:22,290 Sifan Hassan: the best of myself. I think I want to be the greatest 550 00:32:22,290 --> 00:32:25,080 Sifan Hassan: that I want to show myself. That's why I think I'm scared. 551 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,500 Sifan Hassan: I thought it's not just nature. I'm like, I'm thinking, 552 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:35,160 Sifan Hassan: I'm thinking said why I'm so scared always because I care. I 553 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,080 Sifan Hassan: think I really care if I don't care why I scare, I tell most of the people, I told them, when are 554 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,140 Sifan Hassan: you nervous actually you care about that thing. So that's what I figured 555 00:32:43,140 --> 00:32:45,570 Sifan Hassan: out myself and when people scared, actually they're going to 556 00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:47,760 Sifan Hassan: do great. So as long as they don't make mistake, but it's like it's not to do, they're going to 557 00:32:49,410 --> 00:32:51,120 Sifan Hassan: do again and again and again. 558 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: It reminds of the famous quote by the tennis player, 559 00:32:56,340 --> 00:33:00,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: Billie Jean King who says pressure is a privilege, right? 560 00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:03,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: If you feel the pressure, it means you're in a 561 00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:07,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: privileged position of caring and really wanting to do well 562 00:33:07,770 --> 00:33:10,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: and so I love the way you talk about that 563 00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:15,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sifan. Eliud for you maybe it's a different feeling, maybe 564 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: less pressure. You tell me, I mean tell me what 565 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's like because as you said the other day in 566 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sydney after you finished ninth, you don't have anything to 567 00:33:24,690 --> 00:33:28,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: prove. You have done it all in this sport. You 568 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: have been the man for a very long time. So 569 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: do you feel pressure or nerves going into races? When 570 00:33:36,450 --> 00:33:38,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: you step to the starting line in New York, what 571 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: are you thinking in your mind you most want to achieve? 572 00:33:43,170 --> 00:33:47,160 Eliud Kipchoge: The first thing is that I still feel pressure. I still 573 00:33:47,670 --> 00:33:50,310 Eliud Kipchoge: feel tense. Reason is that it shows that I'm really 574 00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:56,100 Eliud Kipchoge: ready but during the, in New York at the starting line, I'll still feel 575 00:33:56,550 --> 00:34:00,900 Eliud Kipchoge: tense but I always say I have nothing actually to prove. 576 00:34:01,650 --> 00:34:04,020 Eliud Kipchoge: But what I have actually in my plate is to 577 00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:06,510 Eliud Kipchoge: make this world a running world. What I have in 578 00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:10,500 Eliud Kipchoge: my plate actually is to promote. I believe anything actually in 579 00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:12,690 Eliud Kipchoge: life you need to move to promote the movement of 580 00:34:12,690 --> 00:34:18,540 Eliud Kipchoge: running to actually get us more as possible people to run and 581 00:34:18,540 --> 00:34:22,860 Eliud Kipchoge: not be held. Able to actually people to set a 582 00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:26,879 Eliud Kipchoge: lot of clubs around the world have brands, backgrounds, road 583 00:34:27,180 --> 00:34:29,730 Eliud Kipchoge: runs and everywhere in this world and I will be 584 00:34:29,730 --> 00:34:33,390 Eliud Kipchoge: supporting them and that's what is in my mind now 585 00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:35,910 Eliud Kipchoge: as far as, but all in all, I still want to 586 00:34:35,910 --> 00:34:40,260 Eliud Kipchoge: start finish in a good way, still train competitively, run 587 00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:46,529 Eliud Kipchoge: competitively, but finish actually by actually leaving my footprints in 588 00:34:46,530 --> 00:34:49,650 Eliud Kipchoge: New York, which tells people, let us all run, let 589 00:34:49,650 --> 00:34:54,299 Eliud Kipchoge: us make New York a running city. Let us make that Manhattan 590 00:34:54,450 --> 00:34:59,549 Eliud Kipchoge: actually everybody to be filled every morning, actually everybody to 591 00:34:59,550 --> 00:35:03,930 Eliud Kipchoge: run over the weekend, 10 times, a lot of people, 10 times to come 592 00:35:03,930 --> 00:35:06,299 Eliud Kipchoge: in and run and that's what I'm there for. 593 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:11,790 Becs Gentry: I love that. The statement you made was absolutely wonderful. 594 00:35:13,230 --> 00:35:17,040 Becs Gentry: You know that I'm sure you've been told by everybody that saying the things you 595 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,390 Becs Gentry: said after coming in ninth, we should be celebrating every 596 00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:25,094 Becs Gentry: position that comes over the finish line as well as 597 00:35:25,094 --> 00:35:28,049 Becs Gentry: the people who don't because race day is the celebration, the 598 00:35:28,050 --> 00:35:30,810 Becs Gentry: training. As you say, training like a professional athlete for 599 00:35:30,810 --> 00:35:34,320 Becs Gentry: you both training hard for people who are just starting 600 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:40,710 Becs Gentry: out running. That is so important to being healthy and 601 00:35:40,739 --> 00:35:44,279 Becs Gentry: making a routine and falling in love with running, is 602 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,000 Becs Gentry: the training. It's the day in, day out, moving your 603 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,590 Becs Gentry: body. So that was just wonderful and seriously nothing to 604 00:35:52,590 --> 00:35:59,790 Becs Gentry: prove, dude, you're the goat forever. Forever. Can we talk 605 00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:04,380 Becs Gentry: about Sydney just a little bit? Sifan, you went out 606 00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:10,080 Becs Gentry: hard, really hard in Sydney on what is reported to 607 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,989 Becs Gentry: be a tough course, quite similar to our course here 608 00:36:12,989 --> 00:36:17,129 Becs Gentry: in New York City. And I mean can you just 609 00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:20,280 Becs Gentry: talk us through those first 5K? What was going through 610 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,210 Becs Gentry: your mind? 611 00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:24,390 Sifan Hassan: Let me tell you, this is the first time I 612 00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:28,980 Sifan Hassan: ever feel at the start line good or at the start, what are 850, 110, 613 00:36:29,340 --> 00:36:33,030 Sifan Hassan: 000 meters since I was like, I don't know, more than 10 years 614 00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:40,500 Sifan Hassan: I'm pro athlete. I always will feel so terrible. Last 615 00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:44,940 Sifan Hassan: time I feel like crazy. I was almost good. The first 1K 616 00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:47,819 Sifan Hassan: was good, behind almost the guys. I think I want 617 00:36:47,819 --> 00:36:53,040 Sifan Hassan: to be also friends, just be with Eliud. It was crazy. It was 618 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:59,219 Sifan Hassan: really feeling great and I was like, wow, okay. Then I don't 619 00:36:59,219 --> 00:37:03,360 Sifan Hassan: know how marathon was hurt you so badly. So I was 620 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:10,830 Sifan Hassan: like after 15 or 20K, I was like oops, I make mistake. I make mistake. But Alhamdulillah, I 621 00:37:11,790 --> 00:37:14,610 Sifan Hassan: get away with it. I was, I like, let me 622 00:37:14,610 --> 00:37:19,200 Sifan Hassan: check. Okay, I'm going to keep going. No, it's okay, it's okay. 623 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:25,080 Sifan Hassan: No problem. It hurts so badly. It started hard. It's no problem. 624 00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:28,110 Sifan Hassan: Yeah, I start very hard in Chicago but I was really feel 625 00:37:28,110 --> 00:37:30,750 Sifan Hassan: good because they start so hard. I was like, what 626 00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:35,430 Sifan Hassan: the freak, I'm going to run 5,000 meters. Why if these people so hard? But in Sydney I 627 00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:38,730 Sifan Hassan: did myself because I feel so good. The pace is calm down, 628 00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:42,390 Sifan Hassan: say no, go, go. I was like, wow, okay. I like 629 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:45,120 Sifan Hassan: crazy time. I told myself but I didn't know that's 630 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,710 Sifan Hassan: happened. It just beat me very hard. I was talking 631 00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:53,250 Sifan Hassan: to myself until the last two kilometers so I was 632 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,700 Sifan Hassan: like punish myself so hardly and I was like seriously my both leg, my up leg 633 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,620 Sifan Hassan: feel like a numb. But I still couldn't continue. Actually 634 00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:05,430 Sifan Hassan: kind of problem myself. I can go so deep. 635 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:09,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wow. 636 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:12,690 Sifan Hassan: So it was crazy. It's crazy. I hope I do that also, I 637 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,100 Sifan Hassan: have so strong mentality in the city, in New York too. 638 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:22,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, we love that. And a lot of marathoners can relate to that feeling of oh 639 00:38:22,469 --> 00:38:25,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: my gosh, what did I do? I went out too 640 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,049 Rob Simmelkjaer: fast because then you were worried about paying the price 641 00:38:28,050 --> 00:38:31,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: so you certainly managed to hold on. I just want 642 00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:34,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: to ask the two of you about getting to know 643 00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:37,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: each other because I noticed in Sydney you did so 644 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: many of your appearances together. There are so many smiles 645 00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:44,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: between the two of you when you are together and 646 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: you really are this incredible duo. A man, a woman, 647 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,859 Rob Simmelkjaer: both reaching the heights of this sport and inspiring so 648 00:38:52,860 --> 00:38:55,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: many people. What has it been like to spend this 649 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: time together and Eliud, and I'll ask the same question of Sifan, 650 00:38:59,550 --> 00:39:03,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: but what do you Eliud most enjoy and admire about 651 00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:04,530 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sifan Hassan? 652 00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:22,002 Eliud Kipchoge: I think Sifan is crazy. (inaudible) actually how she's actually enjoying herself when we are together and (inaudible) 653 00:39:22,469 --> 00:39:25,890 Eliud Kipchoge: how she promotes the sport as far as so many 654 00:39:25,890 --> 00:39:31,290 Eliud Kipchoge: is concerned. I think I'm really interested in, I'm enjoying when we 655 00:39:31,290 --> 00:39:34,530 Eliud Kipchoge: actually at the first conference or doing some interview with 656 00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:37,050 Eliud Kipchoge: her, to catch what's going on in his mind, what has been going on for the last 657 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:41,129 Eliud Kipchoge: three months in training. It's really very good. 658 00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:44,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: How about you, Sifan? What do you most enjoy about 659 00:39:44,430 --> 00:39:45,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: Eliud and admire about him? 660 00:39:46,890 --> 00:39:49,469 Sifan Hassan: It's true. Like he said, I'm crazy. He's very calm. 661 00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:57,090 Sifan Hassan: I really like be (inaudible) him energy because so Eliud is very calm and crazy. 662 00:39:57,090 --> 00:40:00,660 Sifan Hassan: So people whoever have my character kind of, because we 663 00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:03,360 Sifan Hassan: human being, we going to share each other. People who have 664 00:40:03,390 --> 00:40:08,430 Sifan Hassan: Eliud's character except they could be great as long as 665 00:40:08,430 --> 00:40:12,270 Sifan Hassan: do whatever they're doing as long they do their best. So 666 00:40:12,270 --> 00:40:15,960 Sifan Hassan: is this good actually for the view for the people 667 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,900 Sifan Hassan: who watch, they don't have to change their character. You could be 668 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:22,350 Sifan Hassan: yourself, be crazy and still be the best and I 669 00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:26,790 Sifan Hassan: be like childish like me. Oh you could be also calm down, 670 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:35,219 Sifan Hassan: slowly speaking, very philosophical. You would still be the best. So Eliud for me, he's really great and especially 671 00:40:35,370 --> 00:40:38,700 Sifan Hassan: when people tell him when you retire, that piss me 672 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:42,450 Sifan Hassan: off. I want to see him actually... You know what 673 00:40:42,450 --> 00:40:47,550 Sifan Hassan: the funny thing? Being pro athlete is the hardest. If 674 00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:52,650 Sifan Hassan: the man have mentality to keep going, why we ask 675 00:40:52,650 --> 00:40:56,339 Sifan Hassan: him, we should proud of him being number nine is 676 00:40:56,340 --> 00:41:00,899 Sifan Hassan: crazy in marathon. So we should just go as long... 677 00:41:01,230 --> 00:41:05,100 Sifan Hassan: If he don't tired of it being prone, being everyday 678 00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:08,819 Sifan Hassan: wake up, being constant and pushing yourself to the limit 679 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,399 Sifan Hassan: and being so excited, so nervous and people standing there. That is 680 00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:18,210 Sifan Hassan: very hard. If you have that brain, we should proud of 681 00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:21,060 Sifan Hassan: him and we should learn that. Oh, just keep going. I will 682 00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:24,330 Sifan Hassan: wish he go until 65, I don't know, hundred years. 683 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:33,149 Sifan Hassan: As long as he... He will help me actually. We work until 75, 684 00:41:33,419 --> 00:41:36,960 Sifan Hassan: right? I don't know. (inaudible) so why we stop running? 685 00:41:36,959 --> 00:41:41,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: What do you think Eliud? 75? Keep going. 686 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,002 Sifan Hassan: (inaudible) . 687 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:53,400 Eliud Kipchoge: During the 86 kilometers actually marathon in South Africa, Eliud is 688 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,690 Eliud Kipchoge: here. Then one of the old men actually the oldest one was 86 kilometers 689 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:03,510 Eliud Kipchoge: and the guy actually finished those distance in 10 hours. Which 690 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:03,690 Eliud Kipchoge: is really crazy. 691 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:04,739 Becs Gentry: Wow. At 86? 692 00:42:04,739 --> 00:42:06,600 Eliud Kipchoge: Yes, at 86. 693 00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:13,890 Becs Gentry: Wow. And I bet they enjoyed every moment of it 694 00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:17,040 Becs Gentry: as well, running with a smile and being blessed that 695 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,300 Becs Gentry: they could still move their bodies. 696 00:42:19,110 --> 00:42:27,300 Sifan Hassan: So I have to break down my record. I will 697 00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:34,921 Sifan Hassan: be the oldest woman to break- 698 00:42:34,921 --> 00:42:34,922 Becs Gentry: Brilliant. Brilliant. 699 00:42:34,921 --> 00:42:34,922 Sifan Hassan: Okay. 700 00:42:34,922 --> 00:42:36,509 Becs Gentry: Yes. We'll wait for it to happen. I love it. 701 00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:44,190 Becs Gentry: Absolutely beautiful. We really hope that you both continue to 702 00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:48,870 Becs Gentry: run and continue to tell anyone who asks you Eliud 703 00:42:49,469 --> 00:42:52,680 Becs Gentry: when you're going to retire to with all due respect, 704 00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:55,830 Becs Gentry: shut up because ask them how fast they can run 705 00:42:55,830 --> 00:42:57,239 Becs Gentry: a mile. They're not going to catch you. 706 00:42:58,379 --> 00:43:02,460 Sifan Hassan: Yeah. One thing I would say, I really impressed his mentality. 707 00:43:02,489 --> 00:43:08,850 Sifan Hassan: I really impressed his patience and how somebody have so 708 00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:12,780 Sifan Hassan: passion. I am really jealous of it. This is the goat, 709 00:43:12,989 --> 00:43:20,430 Sifan Hassan: to me it's the goat. His patient, passion is the goat. So strong mentality. 710 00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:23,730 Becs Gentry: All round in every single way. I loved how you 711 00:43:23,730 --> 00:43:27,780 Becs Gentry: said Sifan, it's like a philosopher. I think I have always thought 712 00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:31,110 Becs Gentry: of you that way Eliud, And you're like a running philosopher every time 713 00:43:31,110 --> 00:43:36,180 Becs Gentry: you speak it is profound and your performances are profound. 714 00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:39,060 Becs Gentry: So you named it perfectly there Sifan. 715 00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:45,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: So Sifan coming off of a win in Sydney, what do you 716 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: think is possible in New York? I know you're still recovering, 717 00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:52,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: but when you start to retrain and we have a 718 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: lot of runners in our community, recreational runners who will 719 00:43:55,140 --> 00:43:58,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: run two marathons in the fall in Sydney and New 720 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: York or Chicago and New York, but it's unusual for 721 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: the pro side, although you do have a couple of 722 00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:06,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: good months between Sydney and New York. What do you think 723 00:44:06,210 --> 00:44:06,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: is possible? 724 00:44:07,710 --> 00:44:17,070 Sifan Hassan: Look, I have very two best recorded are very strong. 725 00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:20,460 Sifan Hassan: So to me, I have to really be run smart, 726 00:44:20,460 --> 00:44:25,260 Sifan Hassan: also do my best really physically or tactically or mentally 727 00:44:25,410 --> 00:44:30,330 Sifan Hassan: because that's not easy. These people... It's not only you 728 00:44:30,330 --> 00:44:34,319 Sifan Hassan: strong, you win. They are also very smart runner also, especially Aubrey, like 729 00:44:34,350 --> 00:44:38,040 Sifan Hassan: she's a beast. So she could also give up. It's 730 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,280 Sifan Hassan: also she finish also, she can kick very well also. 731 00:44:41,580 --> 00:44:45,000 Sifan Hassan: So I really want to be, I will see I do my 732 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,299 Sifan Hassan: best. I wish I win. If I win that, man 733 00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:58,080 Sifan Hassan: like I win lottery. I would be so happy. It's crazy. The best. So I wish I would be the best. I wish I 734 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,530 Sifan Hassan: will be at least one of the greatest. Yeah, I 735 00:45:01,530 --> 00:45:04,710 Sifan Hassan: wish I would do my best that I would see, but I'll really 736 00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:07,410 Sifan Hassan: hard to say I'll win a hundred percent because the 737 00:45:07,410 --> 00:45:10,680 Sifan Hassan: lady are crazy. They're very strong, so I don't have 738 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,070 Sifan Hassan: really easy opponents. There's not only they're physically strong, also 739 00:45:14,070 --> 00:45:15,239 Sifan Hassan: they're mentally strong. 740 00:45:16,170 --> 00:45:16,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yes. 741 00:45:16,410 --> 00:45:19,170 Becs Gentry: Yep. And they know the course well. I think- 742 00:45:19,410 --> 00:45:21,989 Sifan Hassan: Yeah, they know the course because it'll be like their 743 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:22,980 Sifan Hassan: fourth time? Or three times, I don't know. 744 00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:29,460 Becs Gentry: Yes. Three or four for sure. Helen. Yeah. Do you 745 00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:33,360 Becs Gentry: learn when you run alongside these women who have so 746 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,150 Becs Gentry: much experience on a course that's new for you? 747 00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:38,730 Sifan Hassan: Yeah, because I really have to focus on them. I have 748 00:45:38,730 --> 00:45:44,070 Sifan Hassan: to learn because I'm going to... Because these people, these women, they also experience, they are been running 749 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:48,300 Sifan Hassan: a long time, very special. I don't know how lucky 750 00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:52,020 Sifan Hassan: it is, been like she's before me there so she's 751 00:45:52,020 --> 00:45:55,860 Sifan Hassan: no more also wiser and so stronger. It's very smart 752 00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:59,400 Sifan Hassan: lady also. So she already have... She know all the 753 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,580 Sifan Hassan: roots for me just knew. I try to just be 754 00:46:02,580 --> 00:46:06,239 Sifan Hassan: my best and try to be smart and even sometimes 755 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:06,810 Sifan Hassan: I'm not smart. 756 00:46:06,810 --> 00:46:08,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: You're pretty smart. 757 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,370 Becs Gentry: We like the risk- taker in both of you. 758 00:46:13,110 --> 00:46:13,410 Sifan Hassan: Yeah, think so. Yeah. 759 00:46:14,130 --> 00:46:19,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: Eliud for you. So many recreational runners like myself, dream 760 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: of this six star medal, right? Abbot, world marathon major 761 00:46:24,090 --> 00:46:27,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: six star. This will be your six star, actually it 762 00:46:27,690 --> 00:46:30,149 Rob Simmelkjaer: will be your seventh because you ran Sydney, but you'll 763 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: receive that six star medal from our friends at Abbot 764 00:46:33,630 --> 00:46:36,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: World Marathon majors when you cross the finish line in 765 00:46:36,810 --> 00:46:38,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: Central Park, what does that mean to you? 766 00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:41,610 Eliud Kipchoge: Wow. It means a lot. I'm looking forward for that 767 00:46:41,610 --> 00:46:46,530 Eliud Kipchoge: medal actually to hang on my neck and I'm really 768 00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:53,190 Eliud Kipchoge: looking forward. I think that will have a huge voice on 769 00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:55,799 Eliud Kipchoge: my social media channels to tell people, " Hey, this is the 770 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,700 Eliud Kipchoge: right movement, this is running, this is New York," and I think it'll 771 00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:02,550 Eliud Kipchoge: help me to put more footprints in at the finishing 772 00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:06,120 Eliud Kipchoge: line actually of the New York marathon. So I'm really, 773 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,859 Eliud Kipchoge: really looking forward. I've been actually taking photos with those who have actually the six star but I think this year I'm the one. 774 00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:17,969 Becs Gentry: That is so exciting. I didn't know that was your 775 00:47:17,969 --> 00:47:22,529 Becs Gentry: sixth / seventh star. But oh, congratulations in advance. It's a really- 776 00:47:22,529 --> 00:47:22,710 Eliud Kipchoge: Thank you. 777 00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:26,910 Becs Gentry: I cried for half an hour when I got mine 778 00:47:26,910 --> 00:47:30,150 Becs Gentry: because it was years like you. It took years for 779 00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:34,170 Becs Gentry: it to come together and it's an achievement for every 780 00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:38,940 Becs Gentry: single runner out there. My gosh. Everybody who is listening 781 00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:41,070 Becs Gentry: who is also getting your sixth star, you are getting your six 782 00:47:41,310 --> 00:47:43,560 Becs Gentry: star with the goat. I mean, wow. 783 00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:47,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: It will be incredible for them. And of course most 784 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:49,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: of those six star finishers didn't win most of the 785 00:47:49,590 --> 00:47:52,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: marathons where they got their six star, but they can 786 00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:55,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: still relate. And Eliud, I think it's so amazing that 787 00:47:55,710 --> 00:47:58,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: it does mean something to you because it means so 788 00:47:58,739 --> 00:48:02,279 Rob Simmelkjaer: much to so many people who are following your lead 789 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: and just running and running around the world and moving 790 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,029 Rob Simmelkjaer: their body. So just to have the ability to relate to 791 00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:11,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: you in that way I think will be very special to a 792 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: lot of runners. 793 00:48:12,810 --> 00:48:15,660 Eliud Kipchoge: I think you should organize after actually finishing the race 794 00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:19,169 Eliud Kipchoge: you should organize a big photo shoot for all of us 795 00:48:19,170 --> 00:48:25,800 Eliud Kipchoge: who will be having the sixth star. At the street it'll be actually very good. So please organize for us so that I 796 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,790 Eliud Kipchoge: take a beautiful photo with everybody who will be given a medal. 797 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm on it, we're on it. I will talk to 798 00:48:32,130 --> 00:48:35,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: Donna Stone, the CEO of Abbot World Marathon Majors and 799 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: we will definitely make that happen because what a thrill 800 00:48:38,940 --> 00:48:41,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: that would be for everybody to be in a six 801 00:48:41,489 --> 00:48:45,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: star photo with the goat as we all agree. Eliud Kipchoge. 802 00:48:45,450 --> 00:48:47,281 Eliud Kipchoge: Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. 803 00:48:47,281 --> 00:48:49,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sifan I want to ask the same question to you. 804 00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:53,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: I asked to Eliud earlier, what's one thing you want 805 00:48:53,730 --> 00:48:56,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: to do while you're in New York besides run? 806 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:02,160 Sifan Hassan: Eat pizza. Yes, the spicy, spicy one. I like spicy 807 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,820 Sifan Hassan: pizza the Italian way. I'm going to do with a hand 808 00:49:06,270 --> 00:49:07,800 Sifan Hassan: so I don't have to fight with it. I want to eat pizza because- 809 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,879 Becs Gentry: Oh my goodness- 810 00:49:11,879 --> 00:49:12,089 Sifan Hassan: I want to stand and eat pizza on the street. 811 00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:15,090 Becs Gentry: Yes. 812 00:49:16,170 --> 00:49:17,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: And I love what she said. Did you hear what she said? 813 00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:19,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: She's going to use her hands, not a fork in 814 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: a knife, which is the New Yorkers will respect you 815 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: much more for that. I love that Sifan. 816 00:49:24,299 --> 00:49:25,680 Becs Gentry: With the grease dripping down. 817 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,489 Sifan Hassan: And also would respect me too. 818 00:49:26,819 --> 00:49:29,969 Becs Gentry: Yeah. 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He's a trusted collaborator 846 00:51:03,989 --> 00:51:07,049 Rob Simmelkjaer: here at New York Roadrunners and also a pretty accomplished 847 00:51:07,050 --> 00:51:10,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: runner. Dennis is also the founder of the FDNY Running 848 00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:14,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: Club and he's completed 21 New York City Marathons. As 849 00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:19,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: we mark the anniversary of nine 11, the 25th anniversary next year, 850 00:51:19,590 --> 00:51:22,259 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dennis joins us for today's member moment to reflect on 851 00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:26,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: how running and firefighting have shaped his life of service. 852 00:51:26,219 --> 00:51:29,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dennis, I've seen you at a few finish lines. We've 853 00:51:29,580 --> 00:51:33,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: done the Mayor's Cup presentations with the competition with the 854 00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:36,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: NYPD, but it's nice to have you on Set the 855 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:36,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace. Welcome. 856 00:51:37,020 --> 00:51:39,870 Dennis Sweeney: Thank you. I'm happy to be here and talk about the community building 857 00:51:39,870 --> 00:51:42,630 Dennis Sweeney: that we do with the department and all the races 858 00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:45,029 Dennis Sweeney: within the races that the Roadrunners offer us. 859 00:51:45,630 --> 00:51:47,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, we got a lot of those and you guys 860 00:51:47,550 --> 00:51:49,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: are a big part of those. One thing about you, 861 00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:52,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dennis, I think is interesting, and I actually just kind 862 00:51:52,770 --> 00:51:55,109 Rob Simmelkjaer: of learned this getting ready for this podcast. You didn't 863 00:51:55,110 --> 00:51:58,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: start out as a firefighter. You actually worked in finance 864 00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:00,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: on Wall Street for a few years. What made you 865 00:52:00,870 --> 00:52:04,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: decide to leave that career and join the FDNY? 866 00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:08,070 Dennis Sweeney: I had a pretty accomplished career for a couple of 867 00:52:08,070 --> 00:52:10,110 Dennis Sweeney: years, but while I was working on Wall Street, I 868 00:52:10,110 --> 00:52:12,570 Dennis Sweeney: reflected back on my first job, which is one of 869 00:52:12,570 --> 00:52:15,600 Dennis Sweeney: my favorite questions to ask new acquaintances. I think it 870 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,670 Dennis Sweeney: says a lot about where you grew up and what your 871 00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:21,000 Dennis Sweeney: values might be. And my first job was painting houses 872 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,830 Dennis Sweeney: with a crew. My mom set me up with a 873 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,060 Dennis Sweeney: sole proprietor and I learned a lot about camaraderie, humor, 874 00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:30,960 Dennis Sweeney: overcoming challenges as a team, and I was having a 875 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,360 Dennis Sweeney: tough day walking home from work. One time I saw 876 00:52:33,810 --> 00:52:35,700 Dennis Sweeney: an FDNY rig go by and I thought, I bet 877 00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:37,950 Dennis Sweeney: those guys have some of those qualities that I enjoyed 878 00:52:37,950 --> 00:52:40,350 Dennis Sweeney: in house painting. I had no family on the job, 879 00:52:40,350 --> 00:52:43,859 Dennis Sweeney: no real connections. But I took the test and it 880 00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:44,790 Dennis Sweeney: turned out to be a great fit. 881 00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:47,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wow. So you were looking for that kind of team 882 00:52:47,850 --> 00:52:50,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: environment that you get. And I know you guys have 883 00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:54,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: some very tight- knit teams. You need it for the 884 00:52:54,060 --> 00:52:56,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: really difficult work you do at FDNY. 885 00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,730 Dennis Sweeney: Your first job? 886 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh, my first job. Well, gee, the first time I 887 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:09,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: ever got a paycheck for anything, Dennis, I worked at 888 00:53:09,690 --> 00:53:12,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: a grocery store. It was like a summer job, a 889 00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:16,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: cashier, and I used to scan people's groceries and I 890 00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:19,049 Rob Simmelkjaer: had a bagger. And I guess what I learned from 891 00:53:19,050 --> 00:53:21,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: that was I had to deal with a lot of people, the 892 00:53:21,330 --> 00:53:24,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: public, right? So every single person who'd come into the 893 00:53:24,030 --> 00:53:26,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: store that day, they might be in a good mood, they 894 00:53:26,430 --> 00:53:28,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: might be in a bad mood, they might be friendly, 895 00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:30,719 Rob Simmelkjaer: not so friendly. So I learned to deal with a 896 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: lot of different types of people in that job, which I- 897 00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:34,680 Dennis Sweeney: First job can be really formative. 898 00:53:35,550 --> 00:53:40,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: A hundred percent. Absolutely. Your running career is pretty impressive. 899 00:53:40,830 --> 00:53:44,219 Rob Simmelkjaer: I mean, let alone your firefighting career. 21 New York 900 00:53:44,219 --> 00:53:48,719 Rob Simmelkjaer: City marathons. What has made you such a stalwart marathon 901 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: or what was the reason you ran your, speaking of 902 00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:52,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: first, why did you run your first one? 903 00:53:53,250 --> 00:53:56,160 Dennis Sweeney: I probably ran my first one to reassert my sense 904 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,650 Dennis Sweeney: of identity as a New Yorker. I was a young child 905 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,370 Dennis Sweeney: in the city. We lived on 38th and Lex, and then 906 00:54:02,370 --> 00:54:04,440 Dennis Sweeney: my mom needed to get out. She couldn't handle it 907 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,180 Dennis Sweeney: with three kids. So we moved to New Hampshire. I 908 00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:08,850 Dennis Sweeney: did the back half of grade school in New Hampshire 909 00:54:09,090 --> 00:54:11,670 Dennis Sweeney: and high school as well, and took up running in 910 00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:14,160 Dennis Sweeney: high school. I wasn't particularly accomplished, but had a great 911 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,620 Dennis Sweeney: team. And then when I came back, it was almost 912 00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:19,469 Dennis Sweeney: a foregone conclusion that if you were a runner and you were a New 913 00:54:19,469 --> 00:54:22,650 Dennis Sweeney: Yorker, you ran the New York City Marathon. I basically 914 00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:29,879 Dennis Sweeney: had to, and I guess I ran my first one probably in '03 and after 915 00:54:29,879 --> 00:54:31,439 Dennis Sweeney: that I just had to keep going. 916 00:54:31,709 --> 00:54:35,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, I know the feeling. I also, as a young runner in New York, I just 917 00:54:36,420 --> 00:54:38,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: felt I had to do it and did mine in 918 00:54:38,610 --> 00:54:41,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: '97. So I was a little bit ahead of you, 919 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: but you're way ahead of me now in terms of 920 00:54:43,950 --> 00:54:47,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: how many of these things you've run and the FDNY 921 00:54:47,969 --> 00:54:51,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: Running Club is such a big part of your life. 922 00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:53,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: It's such a big part of our events at New 923 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: York Road Runners. We love it when the FDNY, NYPD, 924 00:54:58,350 --> 00:55:02,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: the other city agencies line up to compete. What inspired 925 00:55:02,489 --> 00:55:05,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: you to start that run club inside of the fire department? 926 00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:08,370 Dennis Sweeney: Well, I do appreciate that aspect of the intro. Not 927 00:55:08,460 --> 00:55:12,450 Dennis Sweeney: probably a hundred percent true, maybe reinvigorated. There was a 928 00:55:12,450 --> 00:55:15,989 Dennis Sweeney: newsletter and a competitive crew back in the seventies. In 929 00:55:15,989 --> 00:55:20,070 Dennis Sweeney: fact, one of our archivists found the original first FDNY Running 930 00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:21,900 Dennis Sweeney: Club newsletter. I can send it to you later for 931 00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:26,820 Dennis Sweeney: your perusal. And I would say with the tragedy of 932 00:55:26,820 --> 00:55:30,509 Dennis Sweeney: 911, certainly things like that became less important. I joined 933 00:55:30,510 --> 00:55:35,610 Dennis Sweeney: in 2005 when the department was still rebuilding, and I 934 00:55:35,790 --> 00:55:39,390 Dennis Sweeney: sort of held my piece as a junior firefighter for 935 00:55:39,390 --> 00:55:41,489 Dennis Sweeney: a few years, but after maybe five years, I realized 936 00:55:41,489 --> 00:55:45,120 Dennis Sweeney: that I could contribute my organizational skills, run a newsletter, 937 00:55:45,570 --> 00:55:49,200 Dennis Sweeney: try and encourage turnout to memorial Races and the Roadrunner 938 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:54,540 Dennis Sweeney: events. And I would say reinvigorated the club from its downturn. 939 00:55:56,070 --> 00:56:00,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: And there was some great history. Gary Murky, the winner of 940 00:56:00,060 --> 00:56:03,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: the very first New York City Marathon had been a 941 00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:06,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: firefighter. So you guys had some history when it came 942 00:56:06,030 --> 00:56:09,239 Rob Simmelkjaer: to running. And I guess there's, I mean, clearly some 943 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: crossover between the two things. What do you find for 944 00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:16,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: your firefighters, for yourself is the biggest benefit that running 945 00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:19,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: gives you when it comes to doing the job of 946 00:56:19,110 --> 00:56:20,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: an FDNY member? 947 00:56:21,150 --> 00:56:24,930 Dennis Sweeney: Well, I think certainly an appreciation for cardio fitness is a 948 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,930 Dennis Sweeney: definite aspect of the running club that we're happy to 949 00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:30,300 Dennis Sweeney: push out to the members. And one that I emphasize in 950 00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:34,320 Dennis Sweeney: all my chitchats and all my newsletters can be found at every 951 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,109 Dennis Sweeney: level of competition. The Running Club motto is, we don't 952 00:56:37,110 --> 00:56:40,410 Dennis Sweeney: need the fastest folks. We want turnout from our members 953 00:56:40,410 --> 00:56:43,440 Dennis Sweeney: to come join, have just a group run, a small 954 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,620 Dennis Sweeney: race, a big race, and afterwards we'll solve the problems 955 00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:49,890 Dennis Sweeney: of the fire department over a rehydration session, if you 956 00:56:49,890 --> 00:56:53,580 Dennis Sweeney: will. But it's definitely great for health and fitness awareness, 957 00:56:53,580 --> 00:56:57,480 Dennis Sweeney: it's great for camaraderie. I call it my second firehouse 958 00:56:58,650 --> 00:57:01,800 Dennis Sweeney: where I get that sense of community in addition to 959 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,299 Dennis Sweeney: where I'm working. And I've found that to be really fulfilling and I hope we've accomplished that for all of our members. 960 00:57:06,930 --> 00:57:12,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: Absolutely. Since I've been here, Dennis, I've seen NYPD and FDNY face off 961 00:57:12,989 --> 00:57:14,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: a number of times. You guys have a few chances 962 00:57:14,969 --> 00:57:18,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: to compete against each other. There's the Fifth Avenue Mile, 963 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: the New Balance Fifth Avenue Mile. There's a competition there. 964 00:57:20,970 --> 00:57:23,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: There's the Mayor's Cup at the TCS New York City 965 00:57:23,730 --> 00:57:27,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: Marathon as well. There's the Commissioner's Cup, which includes a 966 00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:30,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: lot of other city agencies as well. So how friendly 967 00:57:30,540 --> 00:57:34,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: is the competition? You guys seem to really get along 968 00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:36,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: at these races. So I sense it's really friendly, but 969 00:57:37,110 --> 00:57:40,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: it's competitive. You guys have some real competitive people on 970 00:57:40,380 --> 00:57:41,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: both sides of that aisle. 971 00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:48,209 Dennis Sweeney: Oh, certainly. There's certainly bragging rights and there's an old 972 00:57:48,210 --> 00:57:49,860 Dennis Sweeney: line about the fire department. They call it high school 973 00:57:49,860 --> 00:57:53,820 Dennis Sweeney: without homework. And the opportunity to have a rival like 974 00:57:53,820 --> 00:57:57,810 Dennis Sweeney: the NYPD, a very valiant rival that has accomplished runners. It 975 00:57:58,260 --> 00:58:02,250 Dennis Sweeney: makes every race even more fun than certainly just an opportunity 976 00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:06,600 Dennis Sweeney: for a personal best. And the marathon itself is, I have 977 00:58:06,750 --> 00:58:10,980 Dennis Sweeney: to admit, a very unusual scoring mechanism. It is scored 978 00:58:10,980 --> 00:58:15,270 Dennis Sweeney: by whichever department gets 10 members over the line first. 979 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:20,130 Dennis Sweeney: It's effectively a 10th runner competition, rather a cumulative time 980 00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:23,790 Dennis Sweeney: or average time. And confounding to many and can lead 981 00:58:23,790 --> 00:58:27,870 Dennis Sweeney: to some stunning results including last year where I'm embarrassed 982 00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:29,730 Dennis Sweeney: to say, I don't remember the name of police officer, 983 00:58:29,730 --> 00:58:33,900 Dennis Sweeney: but our man, Kenny McLaughlin came across the line Rob 984 00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:39,390 Dennis Sweeney: like so, arms and air and triumph, steps behind the 985 00:58:39,390 --> 00:58:44,760 Dennis Sweeney: 10th police officer, feet who himself came across the line, 986 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,600 Dennis Sweeney: hands on his knees fully exhausted having left it all 987 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,860 Dennis Sweeney: in the field. And Kenny took some level of abuse 988 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,320 Dennis Sweeney: for that one because he clearly had a little bit 989 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,850 Dennis Sweeney: left in the tank. So some of those years it 990 00:58:59,850 --> 00:59:02,760 Dennis Sweeney: can be a blowout and they get six members across 991 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,850 Dennis Sweeney: the line before and we get 10 or vice versa. 992 00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:09,030 Dennis Sweeney: Last year was incredibly tight and exciting for all, and 993 00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:12,930 Dennis Sweeney: I really do think we're all grateful to the Roadrunners 994 00:59:12,930 --> 00:59:17,370 Dennis Sweeney: for giving us that extra competitive fire in the marathon 995 00:59:17,580 --> 00:59:19,350 Dennis Sweeney: for those of us that are in the scoring range 996 00:59:19,350 --> 00:59:20,100 Dennis Sweeney: of that competition. 997 00:59:20,220 --> 00:59:24,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: It is a competition that is depth, I guess, as 998 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: well as speed, right? I don't know, maybe we should 999 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: have a summit at Roadrunner's offices, get NYPD in, get 1000 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: you guys in, and we can talk about the rules 1001 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: of that. If you guys think we should look at 1002 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: it. Could be a change, but I kind of like 1003 00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:39,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: the way we set it up. It's like no man 1004 00:59:39,150 --> 00:59:42,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: or woman left behind, right? That competition for 10th ends 1005 00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:44,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: up being a lot of drama. I like that. 1006 00:59:44,550 --> 00:59:48,480 Dennis Sweeney: Yeah. And a long- standing tradition that goes back before 1007 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,370 Dennis Sweeney: I joined the department, I would be (inaudible) to 1008 00:59:50,370 --> 00:59:50,790 Dennis Sweeney: tinker with it. 1009 00:59:51,690 --> 00:59:53,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. I really love the way that it's 1010 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: set up. So there's also the competition at the Fifth 1011 00:59:56,130 --> 00:59:59,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: Avenue Mile, Dennis. And do you feel, because NYPD has had the best 1012 00:59:59,970 --> 01:00:03,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: of you guys since I've been around at the marathon, 1013 01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:06,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: at the half- marathon distance as well. What do you think 1014 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: for a shorter distance, like the mile, does FDNY have 1015 01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:10,531 Rob Simmelkjaer: a little more speed? What do you think? 1016 01:00:10,531 --> 01:00:13,830 Dennis Sweeney: I think unfortunately in the mile they probably favor us. They 1017 01:00:13,830 --> 01:00:18,300 Dennis Sweeney: have some really stunning individual contributors. Anthony Morale, as I 1018 01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:22,410 Dennis Sweeney: believe is his name, is well under three hours in the 1019 01:00:22,410 --> 01:00:24,930 Dennis Sweeney: marathon, which marks him under five minutes in the mile. 1020 01:00:25,290 --> 01:00:29,220 Dennis Sweeney: So I think the 10th runner rule favors us in 1021 01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:34,470 Dennis Sweeney: terms of the team scoring mechanism. So we'll leave it 1022 01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:37,830 Dennis Sweeney: all out there on the field on Fifth Avenue, including 1023 01:00:37,830 --> 01:00:40,860 Dennis Sweeney: me warming up from the rising race. My little people 1024 01:00:40,860 --> 01:00:45,240 Dennis Sweeney: will be running down at the bottom of the park in the 4- year- 1025 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,400 Dennis Sweeney: old and 6- year- old bracket. So my warm- up 1026 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,620 Dennis Sweeney: will be from the finish line, zipping back up to 1027 01:00:49,620 --> 01:00:51,030 Dennis Sweeney: catch my club at the top. 1028 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: I love it. I really love it. And every year, 1029 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dennis, as we get into the month of September in 1030 01:00:57,570 --> 01:01:01,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York City, we can't help but think about September 1031 01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:06,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: 11th, 2001. We're thinking about it a lot this year. 1032 01:01:07,230 --> 01:01:10,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: And even looking ahead already Dennis, somewhat to next year, 1033 01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:14,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: which will be the 25th anniversary. And I always felt 1034 01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:17,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: there is a connection in a way between the marathon 1035 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: and what happened on 911. I wasn't a part of the 1036 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: 2001 New York City Marathon, but to me it's still 1037 01:01:25,620 --> 01:01:31,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: an incredible thing that that marathon even happened. Runners were crossing 1038 01:01:31,590 --> 01:01:36,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Verrazano Bridge with full view of ground zero and 1039 01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:42,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: that was still very much a scene of devastation at 1040 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,230 Rob Simmelkjaer: that point, only weeks after the event. What does it 1041 01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:49,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: mean for all of you at FDNY to be a 1042 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: part of events like this in September and in the 1043 01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:55,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: fall? And how do you try to use these events 1044 01:01:55,740 --> 01:01:59,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: to honor those that you lost on September 11th, 2001? 1045 01:01:59,730 --> 01:02:02,310 Dennis Sweeney: One way the department honors them is our form of 1046 01:02:02,310 --> 01:02:05,160 Dennis Sweeney: perseverance. And of course I was not hired back then 1047 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,350 Dennis Sweeney: either, but I know that in addition to the challenge 1048 01:02:07,350 --> 01:02:10,080 Dennis Sweeney: of rescue and recovery down to ground zero, the department 1049 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,810 Dennis Sweeney: staffed every firehouse in every neighborhood no matter what the 1050 01:02:12,810 --> 01:02:15,660 Dennis Sweeney: days and weeks that followed. And I think that speaks 1051 01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:20,580 Dennis Sweeney: to our ability to both and carry on time. And 1052 01:02:21,450 --> 01:02:23,880 Dennis Sweeney: we recall how that was done. And those stories are 1053 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,240 Dennis Sweeney: passed on from generation to generation within the fire department 1054 01:02:27,810 --> 01:02:30,300 Dennis Sweeney: and specific to the Marathon, I can tell you, which 1055 01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:33,750 Dennis Sweeney: will no longer be an inside aspect of our deck. 1056 01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:37,080 Dennis Sweeney: But when we depart from our muster point near the 1057 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,840 Dennis Sweeney: finish line to drive to Staten Island in the morning, 1058 01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:42,180 Dennis Sweeney: we of course go down the West Side Highway before 1059 01:02:42,180 --> 01:02:46,620 Dennis Sweeney: doing the tunnel to get to the Marathon Bridge. And there's a caravan 1060 01:02:46,620 --> 01:02:49,740 Dennis Sweeney: of six to eight buses depending on the headcount. And 1061 01:02:49,740 --> 01:02:52,860 Dennis Sweeney: we have staffers with handy talkies work in the front 1062 01:02:52,860 --> 01:02:55,140 Dennis Sweeney: of each bus. And every year, as long as I've 1063 01:02:55,140 --> 01:02:58,320 Dennis Sweeney: run, there's a moment of silence as we pass ground 1064 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,550 Dennis Sweeney: zero. And that is the case for new runners, probies that 1065 01:03:02,550 --> 01:03:06,570 Dennis Sweeney: were hired after 911. Guests, friends and family or wives 1066 01:03:06,570 --> 01:03:09,420 Dennis Sweeney: that may be on the bus are sometimes surprised at 1067 01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:11,640 Dennis Sweeney: the first time they see the moment of silence. But 1068 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,430 Dennis Sweeney: I think it's an important way that we can show 1069 01:03:14,430 --> 01:03:18,180 Dennis Sweeney: that during a joyous event, a competitive event, a wonderful 1070 01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:21,390 Dennis Sweeney: day for the city, the Marathon, the fire department does not forget 1071 01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:22,950 Dennis Sweeney: as we drive past ground zero. 1072 01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:28,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, Dennis, that's appropriate. And we will never forget either 1073 01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:33,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: at New York Roadrunners, it's such an important, tragic part 1074 01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:37,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: of our city's history. We know that we always like 1075 01:03:37,950 --> 01:03:40,710 Rob Simmelkjaer: to say that the New York City Marathon is the 1076 01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:42,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: best day of the year in New York City. We 1077 01:03:42,990 --> 01:03:46,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: really believe it is, but we always want to make 1078 01:03:46,110 --> 01:03:48,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: sure we remember the worst day, one of the worst 1079 01:03:48,330 --> 01:03:49,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: days in the history of New York City is part 1080 01:03:49,830 --> 01:03:53,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: of the way that we conduct this event as well. 1081 01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:58,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: So thank you, Dennis, for everything that you do, everything 1082 01:03:58,380 --> 01:04:01,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: that FDNY does, we're excited to see you guys on Fifth 1083 01:04:01,890 --> 01:04:05,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: Avenue. Excited to see you on November 2nd and to 1084 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:06,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: give credit, by the way, I want to make sure 1085 01:04:06,690 --> 01:04:10,169 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm giving your folks at FDNY credit. You guys have 1086 01:04:10,170 --> 01:04:14,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: a huge lead all time over the NYPD and the 1087 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,940 Rob Simmelkjaer: Mayor's Cup in the Marathon. 20 to seven. So NYPD 1088 01:04:17,940 --> 01:04:19,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: has been hot lately, but you guys still have that 1089 01:04:19,770 --> 01:04:20,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: historical edge. 1090 01:04:22,110 --> 01:04:23,221 Dennis Sweeney: I think it'll be a competitive first Sunday, let's put it that way, Rob. 1091 01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:27,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, sounds great. Dennis, it's great to see you. 1092 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'll see you very soon a couple of times this fall. 1093 01:04:30,690 --> 01:04:32,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: All the best with your training and we'll see you 1094 01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:33,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: out there at the starting line. 1095 01:04:33,810 --> 01:04:34,260 Dennis Sweeney: Thanks for having me, Rob. 1096 01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:41,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right. Dennis Sweeney from FDNY. Thank you so much 1097 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dennis for joining us and for being a member of 1098 01:04:43,410 --> 01:04:46,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Roadrunners, of course, for all your service and 1099 01:04:46,590 --> 01:04:50,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: your colleague service at FDNY. Now to the final part 1100 01:04:50,490 --> 01:04:52,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: of our show, today's Meb Minutes. 1101 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,439 Meb: Thanks Rob. Welcome back to my mile by mile countdown 1102 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,220 Meb: to the 2025 TCS New York City Marathon. This week we 1103 01:05:02,220 --> 01:05:08,040 Meb: are counting down to mile 13 through 15. This is 1104 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:13,440 Meb: a little bit where you have to evaluate mile 13 Pulaski Bridge, Quinn halfway. I 1105 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,770 Meb: always remember going to the halfway of the TCS New York City Marathon. It's 1106 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,640 Meb: to evaluate there's water station and you kind of sprint. 1107 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,210 Meb: But that bridge is iconic to just say, " Hey, I'm 1108 01:05:24,210 --> 01:05:26,610 Meb: at the halfway mark. How am I doing?" This is 1109 01:05:26,610 --> 01:05:31,710 Meb: where the transition from physical to mental. People here want 1110 01:05:31,710 --> 01:05:33,390 Meb: to hit the halfway mark. I was in the lead 1111 01:05:33,390 --> 01:05:36,180 Meb: and I won or I won the lead and I 1112 01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:39,810 Meb: finish strong. You want to be able to just relate and say, " Hey, I'm in the 1113 01:05:39,810 --> 01:05:42,180 Meb: mix with the people." Some people will try to make a 1114 01:05:42,270 --> 01:05:45,209 Meb: move because we know what's ahead that's going to come 1115 01:05:45,210 --> 01:05:48,780 Meb: to the Queensborough. So people are evaluating each other on 1116 01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:54,660 Meb: this Brooklyn- Pulaski Bridge. But be in control of what 1117 01:05:54,660 --> 01:05:57,240 Meb: you can because this is only halfway. You have a long 1118 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,730 Meb: way to go, but good time to just say, " Hey, I 1119 01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:02,730 Meb: think I can replicate what I have gone through, or 1120 01:06:02,730 --> 01:06:04,590 Meb: I'm hurting a little bit. I need to slow down." 1121 01:06:04,830 --> 01:06:07,650 Meb: This is where you need to talk to yourself. Say, " 1122 01:06:07,890 --> 01:06:10,440 Meb: I am ready, I'm willing. I'm doing this and I'm 1123 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,560 Meb: at halfway point. This is what can be happening in second half." 1124 01:06:14,010 --> 01:06:16,530 Meb: My philosophy is always to run the second half fastest. 1125 01:06:16,530 --> 01:06:18,870 Meb: But you can do that. And sometimes for me, I 1126 01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:21,840 Meb: can't because of the competition up in the front, they make 1127 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,060 Meb: moves, you got to respond and things like that, but 1128 01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:27,210 Meb: you can control your race at the halfway mark, mile 1129 01:06:27,210 --> 01:06:31,980 Meb: 14, this is where the bridge is not a lot of 1130 01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:36,600 Meb: crowd here. It's you and the bridge mile 15, you 1131 01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:40,080 Meb: heal yourself breathing, you heal yourself saying, " Why have I 1132 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:44,700 Meb: done this?" But you're doing it. You are climbing one 1133 01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:47,580 Meb: of the biggest bridges there is. And you will be 1134 01:06:47,820 --> 01:06:51,930 Meb: treated with amazing... You're thinking ahead. You say, " I am 1135 01:06:51,930 --> 01:06:58,620 Meb: here breathing my breath control, working hard, but there's more 1136 01:06:58,620 --> 01:07:00,570 Meb: to come. 11 miles of excitement." 1137 01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:06,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right, that does it for a very special episode 1138 01:07:06,510 --> 01:07:09,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: of Set The Pace. We want to thank today's legendary 1139 01:07:09,810 --> 01:07:15,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: guests, Sifan Hassan and Eliud Kipchoge, as well as the FDNY's, 1140 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dennis Sweeney. If you like the episode, make sure you go 1141 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: ahead and subscribe, leave it a rating or send us 1142 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: a comment so we can hear from you. This obviously 1143 01:07:24,030 --> 01:07:26,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: will help lots of other people find the podcast as 1144 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: well. All right, everybody, hope you enjoyed this great show. 1145 01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:30,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: Enjoy the miles. We'll see you next week.