1 00:00:00,210 --> 00:00:03,210 Speaker 1: New York Road Runners is a non- profit organization with 2 00:00:03,210 --> 00:00:06,570 Speaker 1: a vision to build healthier lives and stronger communities through 3 00:00:06,570 --> 00:00:10,230 Speaker 1: the transformative power of running. The support of members and 4 00:00:10,230 --> 00:00:13,890 Speaker 1: donors like you helps us achieve our mission to transform 5 00:00:13,890 --> 00:00:17,250 Speaker 1: the health and wellbeing of our communities through inclusive and 6 00:00:17,250 --> 00:00:22,140 Speaker 1: accessible running experiences, empowering all to achieve their potential. Learn 7 00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:25,980 Speaker 1: more and contribute at nyrr. org/ donate. 8 00:00:30,090 --> 00:00:34,470 Speaker 2: Thank you, New York. Today we're reminded of the power 9 00:00:34,470 --> 00:00:39,330 Speaker 2: of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on 10 00:00:39,330 --> 00:00:39,900 Speaker 2: your mark. 11 00:00:42,030 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: The first woman to finish for the second straight year here in the 12 00:00:46,140 --> 00:00:49,470 Speaker 3: New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling Miki 13 00:00:49,470 --> 00:00:52,620 Speaker 3: Gorman. And why not? 2: 29:30, the time for Grete Waitz. 14 00:00:53,970 --> 00:00:56,610 Speaker 4: Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes 15 00:00:56,610 --> 00:00:59,910 Speaker 4: to the line. Pointing to his chest, pointing to the 16 00:00:59,910 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: USA he so proudly wears across his chest. A great day 17 00:01:04,020 --> 00:01:04,002 Speaker 4: for (inaudible) . 18 00:01:10,260 --> 00:01:13,110 Speaker 5: All right, team, welcome to Set the Pace presented by 19 00:01:13,110 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 5: Peloton. I'm your host, Becs Gentry flying solo today as 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,410 Speaker 5: Rob is off in Paris with his daughter for the 21 00:01:19,410 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 5: final weeks of this year's incredible Olympics. And yes, I 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,740 Speaker 5: am going to be right behind him heading to the 23 00:01:25,740 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 5: games later this week too. I cannot wait to get 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 5: over to Paris. I have been glued to the NBC 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,170 Speaker 5: broadcast and just watching primetime every evening, catching up on 26 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:42,690 Speaker 5: all of the medals, all of the wins, and all 27 00:01:42,690 --> 00:01:45,660 Speaker 5: of the drama as well. Not that it has been much, 28 00:01:45,660 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 5: but it's been a really, really strong year. I've got 29 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,750 Speaker 5: to say. I think the women have been really, really 30 00:01:51,930 --> 00:01:56,310 Speaker 5: floating the Olympics this year. Watching the women's triathlon yesterday, 31 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:58,230 Speaker 5: just the women came over the line, they were on 32 00:01:58,230 --> 00:02:00,779 Speaker 5: the floor. They gave it their all. And I haven't 33 00:02:00,780 --> 00:02:02,370 Speaker 5: been to the Olympics, but I got close and I 34 00:02:02,370 --> 00:02:04,710 Speaker 5: know what that feels like. So I can't wait to 35 00:02:04,710 --> 00:02:06,570 Speaker 5: get out there. I'm hopefully going to watch some of 36 00:02:06,570 --> 00:02:08,250 Speaker 5: the games. I'm going to be running the Marathon Pour 37 00:02:08,250 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 5: Tous on Saturday night. And then I will be doing 38 00:02:11,790 --> 00:02:15,780 Speaker 5: lovely, lovely commentary hits for the women's marathon on Sunday 39 00:02:15,780 --> 00:02:18,660 Speaker 5: morning. You can also find me on the NBC social, 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,070 Speaker 5: which is going to be really, really exciting. Training as 41 00:02:23,070 --> 00:02:24,810 Speaker 5: well as all of this, I've got to say, it's 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,030 Speaker 5: inspirational watching the incredible athletes out there in Paris. It's 43 00:02:30,030 --> 00:02:32,850 Speaker 5: really giving me the energy I need to get out 44 00:02:32,850 --> 00:02:36,419 Speaker 5: for my miles and my training for this bizarre race 45 00:02:36,419 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: that I am still doing. This was the back of 46 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,030 Speaker 5: a 114- mile week, which is just mind- blowing. I 47 00:02:45,030 --> 00:02:47,430 Speaker 5: can't believe I'm saying that, but I am also in awe 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,650 Speaker 5: of my body that's allowed me to do it. And 49 00:02:49,650 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 5: I got to finish it off with one of my 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,810 Speaker 5: most favorite races in Brooklyn, which was the Brooklyn Mile. 51 00:02:55,020 --> 00:02:56,610 Speaker 5: And I say it's one of my favorite, because I 52 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:58,830 Speaker 5: get to run it with Austin and Tallulah. We ran 53 00:02:58,830 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 5: it last year when Tallulah was teeny, tiny. And we'll 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,500 Speaker 5: talk about it more, but we got to run it 55 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:06,690 Speaker 5: this year together as a family. And Tallulah actually ran 56 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 5: over the finish line by herself, which was tear- inducing 57 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,430 Speaker 5: and pride- elevating and all of the good stuff. So 58 00:03:14,970 --> 00:03:16,770 Speaker 5: that was finishing out a really big day and a 59 00:03:16,770 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 5: really big week. But there is nothing more inspiring than re- 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 5: listening to podcasts when you run. And that's what I've 61 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,790 Speaker 5: been doing. I actually listened to last week's episode with 62 00:03:27,150 --> 00:03:30,929 Speaker 5: the Paralympic power couple of Oksana Masters and Aaron Pike, 63 00:03:31,169 --> 00:03:32,700 Speaker 5: who will both be heading to Paris in a few 64 00:03:32,700 --> 00:03:37,290 Speaker 5: weeks for the Paralympic Games. And they also did help 65 00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 5: inspire the choice of our guest for this week. So 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,130 Speaker 5: yes, shortly. Hold on, hold on. We will be joined 67 00:03:44,190 --> 00:03:47,130 Speaker 5: by Tallulah's dad. Before we get to Austin though, who 68 00:03:47,130 --> 00:03:50,130 Speaker 5: is patiently waiting, I want to share a little about this 69 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:53,220 Speaker 5: week's member moment highlight that Meb will be sharing shortly. 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,430 Speaker 5: Joanna Carter is a lifelong runner who began her journey 71 00:03:56,430 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 5: in Barbados. And she's returning to running here now. She's 72 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 5: 75 years old. She continues to inspire others through her 73 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,900 Speaker 5: participation in New York Road Runner's Striders, where she remains 74 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:10,140 Speaker 5: committed to staying active and celebrating her resilience by training 75 00:04:10,140 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 5: for half marathons. Joanna and her fellow Striders will be 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 5: taking part in this weekend's Percy Sutton Harlem 5K. So 77 00:04:17,310 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: if you'll be out in Harlem this weekend, keep an 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,660 Speaker 5: eye out for those New York Road Runner's Strider shirts. 79 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,180 Speaker 5: Make sure you say hi and give them some really 80 00:04:24,180 --> 00:04:29,190 Speaker 5: good words of encouragement. Now, because we only have 13 81 00:04:29,190 --> 00:04:33,630 Speaker 5: weeks until the 2024 TCS New York City Marathon, I absolutely 82 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 5: cannot believe it. Nope, nope. 13 weeks does not feel 83 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,410 Speaker 5: like long enough. But needless to say, this week's Meb 84 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:42,779 Speaker 5: Minute will be focused on what you should be thinking 85 00:04:42,779 --> 00:04:47,610 Speaker 5: about 13 weeks before the greatest marathon in the world. 86 00:04:47,970 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 5: So of course you got to stay tuned for that. 87 00:04:51,150 --> 00:04:54,330 Speaker 5: Whatever summer plans, Peloton is here to help you meet 88 00:04:54,330 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 5: your running goals. Whether you're tracking your own route, trying 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,380 Speaker 5: a new trail, or crushing interval runs, Peloton offers a 90 00:05:01,380 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 5: variety of running and walking content to keep you moving 91 00:05:04,770 --> 00:05:09,510 Speaker 5: anytime, anywhere. Feel supported the entire way and get ready 92 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 5: to move with Peloton. Try the Peloton app in the 93 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,700 Speaker 5: Apple, Android, and Google app stores today. Peloton, the official 94 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:21,870 Speaker 5: digital fitness partner for New York Road Runners. All right, 95 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 5: should we move on to the main event of today's 96 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,820 Speaker 5: show? This is a guest I know very, very well, 97 00:05:29,850 --> 00:05:31,830 Speaker 5: but I may learn a thing or two about him 98 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:36,570 Speaker 5: today. And I'm so excited to better introduce him to 99 00:05:36,690 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 5: our Set the Pace crew. Here is the man who 100 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: changed my world, my inspiration and my partner in everything, 101 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 5: including with our wonderful daughter, Tallulah, Mr. Austin Curtis. Hi. 102 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:53,669 Speaker 6: Hello. 103 00:05:54,029 --> 00:05:57,180 Speaker 5: We're not sitting side by side doing this together. We've 104 00:05:57,330 --> 00:06:01,830 Speaker 5: separated ourselves into different rooms so we can actually have 105 00:06:01,830 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 5: a good conversation here. 106 00:06:03,779 --> 00:06:08,910 Speaker 6: I'm sitting in Tallulah's nursery chair, which I've spent many, 107 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,370 Speaker 6: many of hours here. So it feels quite comfortable, but 108 00:06:14,460 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 6: it's always funny (inaudible) you on, actually me trying 109 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,820 Speaker 6: to be quiet when you guys are recording these and 110 00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:22,469 Speaker 6: now I'm on the other end of it. 111 00:06:23,460 --> 00:06:28,890 Speaker 5: Yay. Well, thank you for sharing your day with us today. So 112 00:06:28,890 --> 00:06:31,170 Speaker 5: the reason why I wanted you on, I was inspired by 113 00:06:31,170 --> 00:06:34,620 Speaker 5: Oksana Masters and Aaron Pike last week and their absolutely 114 00:06:34,620 --> 00:06:37,710 Speaker 5: beautiful relationship that they share. The support that they give 115 00:06:37,710 --> 00:06:40,589 Speaker 5: one another through their training, through the highs and the lows, 116 00:06:40,980 --> 00:06:45,540 Speaker 5: and through their journey of life. And I know when 117 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 5: we met our lives were very, very different. And here 118 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: they are. Well, here we are, should I say. And I 119 00:06:55,350 --> 00:07:00,089 Speaker 5: think I want to ask you, about when we met. 120 00:07:00,390 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 5: There are so many things that people could ask you 121 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,150 Speaker 5: like how you met? Why you met? And what's your favorite 122 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:09,180 Speaker 5: answer? What do you like telling people about how we met? 123 00:07:11,340 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 6: I think we met, both of us it was... Our paths would've 124 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,750 Speaker 6: crossed at some point, but they crossed that weekend that 125 00:07:24,750 --> 00:07:28,020 Speaker 6: I decided to stay back in the city. It was 126 00:07:28,020 --> 00:07:33,030 Speaker 6: around July 4th and I know that, because it was my brother's birthday. 127 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,500 Speaker 6: And our car broke down, it overheated like going through 128 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,380 Speaker 6: the Holland Tunnel and I was just like, "Wait, I'm not sitting in a tow 129 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:43,890 Speaker 6: truck with you 200 miles to the beach house. I'm 130 00:07:43,890 --> 00:07:46,002 Speaker 6: just going to go back to our place (inaudible) 131 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:51,450 Speaker 6: and hang out." And we met watching the Women's World 132 00:07:51,450 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 6: Cup. Actually Team USA. And we met at a bar 133 00:07:57,810 --> 00:08:02,190 Speaker 6: at 10 AM on a Sunday to watch that game. 134 00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:06,030 Speaker 6: And I think we decided it was good luck if 135 00:08:06,030 --> 00:08:09,929 Speaker 6: we took a shot every time USA scored. But I 136 00:08:09,930 --> 00:08:14,010 Speaker 6: think we started as friends as first. There was very 137 00:08:14,010 --> 00:08:20,580 Speaker 6: much a physical attraction, but I think I just saw an energy 138 00:08:20,580 --> 00:08:24,630 Speaker 6: that you had that was intoxicating and someone I wanted 139 00:08:24,630 --> 00:08:29,820 Speaker 6: to spend time with. So after that day, we just 140 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 6: made a plan to go for a run and went 141 00:08:34,319 --> 00:08:34,860 Speaker 6: from there. 142 00:08:36,210 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 5: Running bringing everyone together. You see? And we actually met 143 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,420 Speaker 5: through a friend who I knew through running. So we 144 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:48,270 Speaker 5: always tell people that we kind of met thanks to 145 00:08:48,270 --> 00:08:49,260 Speaker 5: running in many ways. 146 00:08:56,610 --> 00:09:00,390 Speaker 6: Yeah. Our friend pulled the group together that went to 147 00:09:00,390 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 6: watch that soccer game. And that's how we met. 148 00:09:01,860 --> 00:09:04,830 Speaker 5: Wild times. And that was over five years ago now. 149 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:10,350 Speaker 5: Look at us fly. Okay, so now we've got the nitty- 150 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:14,790 Speaker 5: gritty out of the way in the relationship conversation. I want 151 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 5: to tell people or I want you to tell people a little bit 152 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,300 Speaker 5: more about your journey in sports. Everybody knows that you 153 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:29,370 Speaker 5: run, we often run together, but your background isn't necessarily 154 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,850 Speaker 5: running, unless you can call it running on ice, I 155 00:09:32,850 --> 00:09:36,809 Speaker 5: suppose. But you played hockey. That was from when you were 156 00:09:36,809 --> 00:09:40,650 Speaker 5: born. I can attest to Austin's dad, I think maybe 157 00:09:40,650 --> 00:09:43,740 Speaker 5: still has a tiny hockey boot of yours or something. 158 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 5: But you literally say you played hockey from when you 159 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 5: could walk, all the way through from University of Colorado 160 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:57,090 Speaker 5: and Boulder to the men's league, right? In Chelsea Piers. 161 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,002 Speaker 6: (inaudible) . 162 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 5: Had to get it in, babe. Very proud of the men's league. 163 00:10:05,790 --> 00:10:11,010 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a glorified men living out their childhood dreams 164 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:12,210 Speaker 6: is the men's league. 165 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:15,090 Speaker 5: But hockey was your first sport love, right? 166 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. So I grew up in the Philadelphia area, so 167 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:28,710 Speaker 6: Philly Flyers, Eagles, it was... Philadelphia is a very blue 168 00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:32,429 Speaker 6: collar sports town, at least the upbringing that I had. 169 00:10:33,570 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 6: So there was an AHL team called the Phantoms. And 170 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,370 Speaker 6: they always ran promotional deals. So we seemed to always 171 00:10:44,370 --> 00:10:48,300 Speaker 6: have tickets to go see the Phantoms play. Hockey is 172 00:10:48,330 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 6: not a sport that anyone in the family had played 173 00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:57,900 Speaker 6: before. But after going to a number of the Philadelphia 174 00:10:57,900 --> 00:11:05,250 Speaker 6: Phantom games I wanted to play. And asked my parents if 175 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:07,860 Speaker 6: I could and had no idea what we were getting 176 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:11,370 Speaker 6: ourselves into. And I think if they did, they would probably 177 00:11:11,370 --> 00:11:15,900 Speaker 6: have pushed another sport, because it's quite early mornings, late 178 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:18,569 Speaker 6: nights. And at the level that I started to play 179 00:11:18,570 --> 00:11:26,069 Speaker 6: at, quite intensive in travel and expensive as well. So 180 00:11:26,610 --> 00:11:31,260 Speaker 6: that is... Yeah, I grew up playing ice hockey. Became 181 00:11:31,410 --> 00:11:35,490 Speaker 6: quite talented I would say, and started playing on some 182 00:11:35,490 --> 00:11:42,030 Speaker 6: select teams and club teams, and got to see a 183 00:11:42,030 --> 00:11:48,359 Speaker 6: lot of the East Coast, Canada, and travel quite a 184 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:54,780 Speaker 6: bit for a young teenager. And had little brother, Quinn, 185 00:11:55,530 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 6: kind of follow in my footsteps and started playing hockey. 186 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,100 Speaker 6: But it was a very new sport for the Curtis 187 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:08,429 Speaker 6: family. And paved the way and what that allowed. But 188 00:12:08,429 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 6: it's just a sport I loved. I tried... I would 189 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 6: say I'm decently skilled at other sports, but not really 190 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,689 Speaker 6: great at any other. But hockey just came very natural 191 00:12:22,710 --> 00:12:26,250 Speaker 6: and I enjoyed it. So just kind of focused on 192 00:12:26,250 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 6: that and it allowed me to play in college, and 193 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,849 Speaker 6: now in a very glorified men's league. Which I think 194 00:12:35,850 --> 00:12:39,179 Speaker 6: is really just an excuse for guys to probably get 195 00:12:39,179 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 6: out, continue to play, and have a couple beers after the game. 196 00:12:44,490 --> 00:12:47,340 Speaker 5: You're very humble. I remember the first time, one of 197 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:50,790 Speaker 5: our early dates, and you took me ice skating. And 198 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:55,229 Speaker 5: I was petrified, because I am Bambi on ice. I 199 00:12:55,230 --> 00:12:58,590 Speaker 5: move in one direction and that is running. You think 200 00:12:58,650 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 5: running and ice skating might go kind of well together, 201 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: but no. I got it in the end, but you were 202 00:13:06,510 --> 00:13:11,790 Speaker 5: such a good teacher and very patient and your skills 203 00:13:11,790 --> 00:13:15,030 Speaker 5: were evident there. And then having since seen you play 204 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:19,890 Speaker 5: hockey in not an actual match, but at our friends 205 00:13:19,890 --> 00:13:24,689 Speaker 5: league, you are very, very good. Very, very humble. But 206 00:13:24,690 --> 00:13:27,780 Speaker 5: that leads me to ask you then why you transitioned 207 00:13:27,780 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: away from hockey and into running focus. Because I know 208 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,710 Speaker 5: we're going to talk about your Ironmans as well, but 209 00:13:35,010 --> 00:13:36,900 Speaker 5: running focus, what was the reason? 210 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:42,570 Speaker 6: No, hockey, it was always something I enjoyed. In off 211 00:13:42,570 --> 00:13:46,829 Speaker 6: seasons there were... We did training. It was a lot more time 212 00:13:46,830 --> 00:13:53,100 Speaker 6: spent in the weight room than cardio- focused exercise. But 213 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:55,980 Speaker 6: there was that element to it. So it wasn't super 214 00:13:55,980 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 6: foreign and a hard or unnatural transition to running. But 215 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 6: I think plain and simple was when I moved to 216 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:12,150 Speaker 6: New York after university, there was a void that needed 217 00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:16,740 Speaker 6: to be filled. I was very used to a routine 218 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 6: schedule of at least being on the ice once a day, sometimes 219 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,750 Speaker 6: twice a day. So that would be two to three 220 00:14:24,750 --> 00:14:31,470 Speaker 6: hours of some sport- related element in my daily activity. 221 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,610 Speaker 6: And when I moved to New York, I was out of 222 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 6: college, I had an internship and a job in a 223 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:49,410 Speaker 6: retail store, but didn't really have the means to... One, 224 00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:54,300 Speaker 6: continue to play hockey in York is quite difficult. But also 225 00:14:54,420 --> 00:14:58,710 Speaker 6: join, even have the... To (inaudible) enough money to 226 00:14:58,710 --> 00:15:02,790 Speaker 6: join a gym membership. So I knew that... I remembered 227 00:15:03,810 --> 00:15:08,130 Speaker 6: training in the off season was running. And I had a 228 00:15:08,130 --> 00:15:11,100 Speaker 6: pair of running shoes and decided to see and give 229 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:18,510 Speaker 6: that a go. And what became very challenging runs, just 230 00:15:18,510 --> 00:15:22,380 Speaker 6: to make it a mile or two, I started to find 231 00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:25,020 Speaker 6: that I could go a little bit further. I remember 232 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,110 Speaker 6: I lived over on the East Side on 34th and 233 00:15:29,490 --> 00:15:34,650 Speaker 6: 1st. So right on the running path. And I remember 234 00:15:34,650 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 6: the first time I went for a run and I went 235 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,710 Speaker 6: down and I was just like, " Oh, man. I'm getting pretty tired, but I just 236 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:42,510 Speaker 6: want to make it to the bridge." Which was the 237 00:15:42,510 --> 00:15:47,610 Speaker 6: Williamsburg Bridge. I got back and I didn't even have a 238 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:53,100 Speaker 6: watch at that point, so I couldn't track how far it was. And I 239 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:59,759 Speaker 6: put it into MapMyRun. 240 00:15:59,759 --> 00:15:59,911 Speaker 5: I used to love that app. 241 00:15:59,911 --> 00:16:01,020 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was only like 2.5 miles and I was gassed. 242 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:02,761 Speaker 5: We all got to start somewhere. 243 00:16:02,761 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 6: Exactly. And a couple of the guys that I was living 244 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 6: with, they wanted to join in. So each night we'd 245 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,210 Speaker 6: go out and go for a little run. And I just 246 00:16:15,210 --> 00:16:18,540 Speaker 6: incrementally tried to get further. So it was the Williamsburg 247 00:16:18,540 --> 00:16:20,609 Speaker 6: Bridge. And if you're familiar with the East Side, it's 248 00:16:21,239 --> 00:16:25,890 Speaker 6: Williamsburg, then it's Manhattan, and then Brooklyn. And the ultimate 249 00:16:25,890 --> 00:16:27,930 Speaker 6: goal was to be able to run down to the 250 00:16:27,930 --> 00:16:31,110 Speaker 6: tip of the island and back. So that took some time to get to, but I made it and kept going. 251 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: That's the thing about running, I think once somebody in 252 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,010 Speaker 5: your friendship group starts, especially if you live with a 253 00:16:44,010 --> 00:16:48,570 Speaker 5: bunch of people, it is something that others want to 254 00:16:48,570 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 5: join you on. And we've seen it amongst our friends 255 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,580 Speaker 5: when we both start training. They know we're runners, but we'll 256 00:16:56,580 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: start training for something and then all of a sudden 257 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,990 Speaker 5: one of our friends is like, " Oh, hey, I went for 258 00:17:00,990 --> 00:17:05,970 Speaker 5: a run today because I saw you did." And even in our neighborhood, 259 00:17:06,780 --> 00:17:11,550 Speaker 5: we've made friends on our road and people have started 260 00:17:11,550 --> 00:17:16,109 Speaker 5: running because they see us running all the time. That's 261 00:17:16,109 --> 00:17:19,020 Speaker 5: the way running goes. And I think starting out small, 262 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 5: especially if you are following in somebody else's inspiration is 263 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,730 Speaker 5: fantastic. And then building up to running to the tip of 264 00:17:26,730 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 5: the island and back up to 34th, awesome. I mean, 265 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,830 Speaker 5: that's a pretty long run. That's no easy feat. Done 266 00:17:34,830 --> 00:17:35,700 Speaker 5: it once or twice. 267 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,270 Speaker 6: Yes. Today. 268 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:47,310 Speaker 5: So when you first... Today... When you first did your marathon, your first marathon you 269 00:17:47,310 --> 00:17:51,180 Speaker 5: did in 2016, right? 270 00:17:51,810 --> 00:17:51,990 Speaker 6: Yeah. 271 00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:56,250 Speaker 5: And we... Well, I didn't know you then. I say 272 00:17:56,250 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: we. But you did just under a five- hour marathon. 273 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,710 Speaker 5: So 4: 55 was your time for the Philly marathon 274 00:18:04,859 --> 00:18:11,130 Speaker 5: in 2015, sorry. So that's an incredible time. But then 275 00:18:11,130 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 5: obviously your passion for running and training intensified because your 276 00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:22,649 Speaker 5: personal best over the 26.2 is the New Jersey Marathon over in 277 00:18:22,650 --> 00:18:27,690 Speaker 5: Asbury Park in 2019 where you got a 2: 57. Which 278 00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:33,450 Speaker 5: is nuts. That is a two- hour difference in your 279 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:38,369 Speaker 5: marathon time. So what changed? What did you do differently? 280 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:46,650 Speaker 6: A lot changed in that time, I think. No, when I first started running, 281 00:18:46,650 --> 00:18:54,270 Speaker 6: it was just to fill that void of a miss 282 00:18:54,270 --> 00:19:00,090 Speaker 6: for hockey and training and also just years, 15- plus 283 00:19:00,090 --> 00:19:05,970 Speaker 6: years of having that discipline. I needed and also wanted 284 00:19:06,330 --> 00:19:09,690 Speaker 6: to have that. But a lot of things came into 285 00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:13,169 Speaker 6: play in that I'd say I moved to New York 286 00:19:13,170 --> 00:19:21,300 Speaker 6: in 2013, 2014. And by 2015 ran my first marathon. And 287 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:26,820 Speaker 6: in that time I met David. And that's how you and I 288 00:19:26,820 --> 00:19:31,109 Speaker 6: eventually met years later. But David was a collegiate runner 289 00:19:32,190 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 6: and when he moved to New York, I would start running 290 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,430 Speaker 6: with him and that was the first time I had 291 00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:47,430 Speaker 6: ever run with someone that it looked absolutely effortless. And 292 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:51,750 Speaker 6: something that... And I was competitive. And so I wanted to see 293 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:56,340 Speaker 6: if I could run faster. And so I would just go out 294 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,340 Speaker 6: with runs with him, whether it be longer runs, faster 295 00:19:59,340 --> 00:20:05,609 Speaker 6: runs, like tempo runs. But he was a great training 296 00:20:05,609 --> 00:20:09,419 Speaker 6: partner to have in the city. And then also knowing 297 00:20:09,420 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 6: I have a twin sister, Michaela, and she was a D1 298 00:20:16,859 --> 00:20:24,869 Speaker 6: collegiate gymnast. And when she graduated and kind of wrapped 299 00:20:24,869 --> 00:20:29,220 Speaker 6: up her gymnastics career, because it more or less finishes 300 00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 6: after college, she also was looking to fill a void. 301 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,090 Speaker 6: And so she started running. And we have a childhood friend 302 00:20:39,090 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 6: that had run the Philly marathon in 2014 that we 303 00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:45,810 Speaker 6: went and cheered on. And I think it was both 304 00:20:45,810 --> 00:20:48,300 Speaker 6: of us at that point, we didn't say anything to 305 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:52,109 Speaker 6: each other, but kind of knew that was something that 306 00:20:52,109 --> 00:20:54,989 Speaker 6: maybe we wanted to do. And it's one of those 307 00:20:54,990 --> 00:20:59,669 Speaker 6: things that if you aren't necessarily... We're so tied into 308 00:20:59,670 --> 00:21:05,190 Speaker 6: the running community that it seems like every conversation with 309 00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:09,209 Speaker 6: friends and colleagues, it's just like, " What's next and what are you 310 00:21:09,210 --> 00:21:14,580 Speaker 6: doing?" But the idea of a marathon, I try to 311 00:21:14,850 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 6: think back to when that seed was first sown. And 312 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:21,990 Speaker 6: for a lot of people when they first see something 313 00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:25,590 Speaker 6: like that, they question and ask themselves, " Is that something 314 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:30,570 Speaker 6: I could ever do?" So when Michaela and I saw our 315 00:21:30,570 --> 00:21:38,790 Speaker 6: friend Mike Sundry ran a Philly Marathon, next year came around 316 00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:41,668 Speaker 6: and we were like, " Hey, we should think about doing 317 00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:46,470 Speaker 6: this." And so that's who I ran my first marathon, was with Kayla. 318 00:21:48,180 --> 00:21:50,909 Speaker 5: Hand in hand over the finish line. Mr. And Mrs. Curtis. 319 00:21:51,930 --> 00:22:02,700 Speaker 6: That was the first Ironman when they announced that. She actually did a marathon before that, it's a 320 00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:05,700 Speaker 6: very small one from Cape May, New Jersey to Stone 321 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 6: Harbor. And I jumped in and ran 17, 18 miles with 322 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 6: her. And I was running quite a bit, but that 323 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,030 Speaker 6: was at that point the longest I had run. And 324 00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:21,510 Speaker 6: it was... I think once we finished that I knew 325 00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:24,750 Speaker 6: that I was like, " Oh, I can train for the 326 00:22:24,750 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 6: Philly marathon." But I didn't have any idea how to 327 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:37,170 Speaker 6: train. A quick Google search was this is your 16- 328 00:22:37,170 --> 00:22:45,330 Speaker 6: week step training program. And Michaela has... She was studying 329 00:22:46,140 --> 00:22:49,650 Speaker 6: personal training and coaching and so she did a little 330 00:22:49,650 --> 00:22:52,619 Speaker 6: bit more of the research than I did. And she 331 00:22:52,619 --> 00:22:54,390 Speaker 6: would send over like, " Hey, this is what we should 332 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:58,649 Speaker 6: be doing this week." And I remember distinctly, she came up 333 00:22:58,650 --> 00:23:01,410 Speaker 6: to New York, it was our first 20- mile run that 334 00:23:01,410 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 6: we both were going to do. And I had mapped it out on MapMyRun, 335 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,590 Speaker 6: and it took us up the west side loop of 336 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 6: Central Park, back down the west side. And it was 337 00:23:15,630 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 6: a week before the... Because Philadelphia Marathon is always after 338 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,890 Speaker 6: New York. But they had the grandstand set up and we 339 00:23:26,430 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 6: ran through that and it just got you so excited for what 340 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:36,300 Speaker 6: was about to come. And also a slight distraction on the six, seven 341 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:39,659 Speaker 6: miles we had left to run down the west side. 342 00:23:40,740 --> 00:23:44,310 Speaker 6: But we both, we were following our training program, but 343 00:23:44,580 --> 00:23:49,230 Speaker 6: that week neither one of us ran. So we were like, " 344 00:23:49,230 --> 00:23:51,150 Speaker 6: All right, we'll see how this goes." And I remember 345 00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:59,670 Speaker 6: nearly dying in the Whole Foods on Chambers Street. That to say that that 346 00:23:59,670 --> 00:24:06,450 Speaker 6: first marathon was, I think I was just so focused on completing the distance. 347 00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:15,150 Speaker 6: Time was never a question. I had no idea what to 348 00:24:15,150 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 6: expect. I just wanted to complete the distance. I wanted 349 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:24,209 Speaker 6: to run it with Michaela and enjoy it. It was the 350 00:24:24,210 --> 00:24:29,369 Speaker 6: Philly marathon. It was very close to home in both location 351 00:24:34,380 --> 00:24:37,859 Speaker 6: and in the heart. And that was the first experience. 352 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:42,659 Speaker 6: And after crossing that line, I think many people have 353 00:24:43,950 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 6: one of two thoughts is, " I want to do that again 354 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:51,209 Speaker 6: and have that runner's high." Or, " That's it, I'm good." And 355 00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:56,939 Speaker 6: I had the feeling of there was more left in 356 00:24:56,940 --> 00:25:00,690 Speaker 6: the tank. And I wanted to see what I could 357 00:25:00,690 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 6: do. Sub- three, that idea did not come for a 358 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,020 Speaker 6: couple more years. It was more of like, "Hey, can we go under 359 00:25:10,020 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 6: four hours?" I think was the next thought. 360 00:25:12,330 --> 00:25:13,109 Speaker 5: Chipping away. 361 00:25:13,888 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. And then it was sub- 3: 30. And then 362 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 6: it was, " I think I might be able to do 363 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,270 Speaker 6: this sub- three." Because I was around a bunch of 364 00:25:24,270 --> 00:25:28,140 Speaker 6: guys that they would just call each other like, " Oh, 365 00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:32,908 Speaker 6: he's a 27 guy, he's a 19 guy." And I had to ask 366 00:25:32,909 --> 00:25:35,910 Speaker 6: them, I was just, " What do you mean, like a 27 guy?" And it's just like 367 00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:43,648 Speaker 6: they don't even put the two in front of it. They just know that they are sub-three. And I wanted that. So I'm a 57 368 00:25:43,648 --> 00:25:44,490 Speaker 6: guy at the moment 369 00:25:46,109 --> 00:25:49,380 Speaker 5: And in between all of that I have to give you props because I think anybody 370 00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:55,859 Speaker 5: who ran the 2018 Boston Marathon deserves an absolute round 371 00:25:55,859 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 5: of applause for completing that race because that was... I 372 00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:03,990 Speaker 5: got pictures of you and Dave just powering through that 373 00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:07,530 Speaker 5: race in my mind whenever I think about it. You got 374 00:26:07,530 --> 00:26:09,659 Speaker 5: to the finish line when a lot of people didn't. So 375 00:26:09,660 --> 00:26:12,090 Speaker 5: that I'm sure helped add a little bit of an 376 00:26:12,090 --> 00:26:15,990 Speaker 5: edge before the New Jersey Marathon as well. 377 00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:22,139 Speaker 6: Absolutely. That was pure grit to get through that. We 378 00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 6: woke up that morning. We were sitting in this Airbnb kind of by the finish 379 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,609 Speaker 6: line. Yeah, by the finish line. And we had a bus 380 00:26:32,609 --> 00:26:36,300 Speaker 6: to catch. And we just opened the door and he was 381 00:26:36,659 --> 00:26:43,590 Speaker 6: at the time in OTQ shape. And I think he had a quick 382 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,970 Speaker 6: realization that that just was not going to happen that 383 00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 6: day, which is tough in many ways. I, on the 384 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,410 Speaker 6: other hand, just was like, " All right, we'll see what we can do." 385 00:26:55,410 --> 00:26:59,010 Speaker 5: It's just some rain. 386 00:26:59,850 --> 00:27:03,419 Speaker 6: It's just some rain. And it just got worse and worse and worse. So yeah, 387 00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 6: that was... I mean, what a crazy race day experience 388 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,300 Speaker 6: that was. 389 00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:12,270 Speaker 5: Unreal. Well, that kind of just sums up a bit 390 00:27:12,270 --> 00:27:19,020 Speaker 5: of your grit and your determination and that has translated 391 00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 5: very well into what I still think is utter insanity. 392 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:30,869 Speaker 5: That is the full Ironman. And you've done three, which 393 00:27:30,869 --> 00:27:34,830 Speaker 5: is even weirder to me. I live with you, I have 394 00:27:34,830 --> 00:27:38,220 Speaker 5: a child with you. And I still think that is 395 00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:44,190 Speaker 5: just bizarre. And watching you train for your most recent 396 00:27:44,190 --> 00:27:48,780 Speaker 5: one, which was Ironman Indiana was awe- inspiring. The hours 397 00:27:49,530 --> 00:27:54,810 Speaker 5: you'd spend individually or those disgusting brick sessions. It was 398 00:27:54,869 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 5: COVID. So you were kind of locked up in our 399 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:02,100 Speaker 5: apartment on the Peloton bike to get your long rides 400 00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:06,030 Speaker 5: in and between tread and when we could get outside 401 00:28:06,030 --> 00:28:10,770 Speaker 5: for you to do your runs. And then you actually 402 00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:12,689 Speaker 5: did get to a pool as well for that, but 403 00:28:12,690 --> 00:28:15,419 Speaker 5: it wasn't as much as you wanted. And you still 404 00:28:15,420 --> 00:28:20,910 Speaker 5: absolutely crushed Ironman Indiana in 11 hours and 20 minutes. 405 00:28:20,970 --> 00:28:26,070 Speaker 5: Which I mean, I was exhausted watching you and hearing you and 406 00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:30,885 Speaker 5: trying to find you. And that grit and that determination, 407 00:28:30,885 --> 00:28:35,369 Speaker 5: I think... I know your parents and I can see where 408 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,950 Speaker 5: you get it from when I look at them. But 409 00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 5: for you, where do you think you get that willpower 410 00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 5: and determination to keep moving for 11 hours and 20 minutes? 411 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 6: Well, I always say hats off to the support crew 412 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 6: for those races. Because I have cheered Michaela on during 413 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,190 Speaker 6: some Ironmans that she's done, that I did not race 414 00:28:59,190 --> 00:29:04,500 Speaker 6: side by side with her. And they are long, long days. 415 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 6: Even at a world record pace that's still seven, eight 416 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 6: hours of cheering across three disciplines. And you're trying to 417 00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:19,260 Speaker 6: see them and your athletes in different spots. So hats 418 00:29:19,260 --> 00:29:23,220 Speaker 6: off and thank you so much for coming to the race 419 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,490 Speaker 6: in Muncie, Indiana there. 420 00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:28,260 Speaker 5: That's an experience. 421 00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:33,390 Speaker 6: But as far as training for that, I think... Oh, man, I have followed 422 00:29:38,190 --> 00:29:44,730 Speaker 6: Michaela in her athletic ventures. And the marathon was a 423 00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 6: bit of both of our ideas when we first started 424 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:57,150 Speaker 6: training for that. And then our Aunt Georgia, she did 425 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,001 Speaker 6: an Ironman and that was in honor of our mama (inaudible) 426 00:30:00,001 --> 00:30:05,489 Speaker 6: . She was a collegiate swimmer and that was always her 427 00:30:05,490 --> 00:30:11,010 Speaker 6: strong suit. And as she was a bit older, she 428 00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:16,650 Speaker 6: started cycling with friends. And I think in that world, 429 00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 6: the KONA Ironman was always the pinnacle and they broadcast 430 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,100 Speaker 6: it. I remember always watching that and just seeing those athletes 431 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 6: push themselves through three disciplines in the scorching heat, it was... And it 432 00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:40,230 Speaker 6: always came down neck and neck. So the idea of 433 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:44,002 Speaker 6: an Ironman was always in the background. And I think (inaudible) . 434 00:30:44,002 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 5: (inaudible) it's always in everyone's background. You pulled it forward. 435 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:47,190 Speaker 6: Pulled it forward. 436 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,570 Speaker 5: I think about it. And then I realize that I would either 437 00:30:51,570 --> 00:30:55,830 Speaker 5: drown when I'm swimming or fall off the bike because 438 00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:59,700 Speaker 5: I'm scared of un- clipping myself. But you made it 439 00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 5: happen. Three times. 440 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:09,150 Speaker 6: And so I think the first Ironman that I had gone and seen was Michaela 441 00:31:09,150 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 6: doing one in... It was either North or South Carolina. 442 00:31:14,820 --> 00:31:19,500 Speaker 6: And they were ready to start. It was a rolling 443 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,979 Speaker 6: swim start. And I had been in touch with her during her 444 00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:25,530 Speaker 6: training, because I think I was training for a marathon. 445 00:31:25,530 --> 00:31:31,410 Speaker 6: But I did not understand the discipline that you need 446 00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:35,670 Speaker 6: to have to put together a training block for a full- 447 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:40,260 Speaker 6: distance Ironman until later when I signed up. But I was 448 00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 6: standing at that start line and the sun was coming 449 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 6: up. And the bagpipes, the Scottish bagpipes were playing. And 450 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:57,510 Speaker 6: I was just quite emotional watching Kayl go out and 451 00:31:57,510 --> 00:32:02,790 Speaker 6: just almost gladiator style, like, " Whoa, she's going to go 452 00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:08,550 Speaker 6: swim two miles, bike 112, and run a marathon." I 453 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:14,100 Speaker 6: couldn't fathom that idea. And then to watch her accomplish 454 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,550 Speaker 6: that... And there's a little caveat in that, and that's 455 00:32:17,550 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 6: I think maybe what inspired us to run our first, 456 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,660 Speaker 6: or to do our first Ironman together was there was 457 00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 6: quite a bad storm that came in. And it actually 458 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:37,470 Speaker 6: canceled 30, 40 miles of the bike. So it wasn't technically a full- 459 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,610 Speaker 6: distance Ironman. They still gave medals out, they did all 460 00:32:41,610 --> 00:32:43,921 Speaker 6: three disciplines, but they had to shorten up the bike course. 461 00:32:43,921 --> 00:32:43,922 Speaker 5: Michaela needed retribution. 462 00:32:43,922 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 6: So there was a little asterisk on her name, on her finish. So she wanted retribution. And I had... We were a couple of years out of college 463 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 6: at this point. But I said to Kayla at the 464 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,050 Speaker 6: finish line, I was like, " Let's do this together." I think 465 00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:10,020 Speaker 6: that was the first thing I said after congratulations. And 466 00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 6: a week or two later I sent her a link 467 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,230 Speaker 6: for Boulder Ironman. And I thought to myself at that 468 00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:20,850 Speaker 6: point, if I'm going to do one of these, I want 469 00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:26,490 Speaker 6: to do it in a beautiful and very familiar scenery. 470 00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:30,150 Speaker 6: And we signed up for the Boulder Ironman. And that 471 00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:33,630 Speaker 6: is where we crossed hand in hand, Mr. And Mrs. 472 00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:42,030 Speaker 6: Curtis, by the announcer's idea. But that was, yeah, it 473 00:33:42,030 --> 00:33:46,950 Speaker 6: was the training for an Ironman and triathlons in general, 474 00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:49,890 Speaker 6: I quite like it's broken up across three disciplines. 475 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,740 Speaker 5: Yeah, you like the change, yeah. You like to switch it up. 476 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 6: I think you might switch over after this, 777. 477 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:04,170 Speaker 5: No way. No chance. Not a chance. Unless you're trying to off me. But then 478 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,410 Speaker 5: that started you guys off. And I think from my 479 00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:10,170 Speaker 5: standpoint, one of the toughest things I've ever seen for 480 00:34:10,170 --> 00:34:17,580 Speaker 5: you on the sporting side was the Ironman... Where were 481 00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:19,170 Speaker 5: you going to do it? Texas? 482 00:34:20,430 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 6: Yeah. 483 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,980 Speaker 5: It was Ironman Texas. And you and Kayla had both 484 00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 5: been training for this one again to do together. And 485 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:31,110 Speaker 5: you were fully trained. And you were three, two weeks 486 00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 5: out, maybe? 487 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 6: We were tapering. Yeah, we were tapering. 488 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,570 Speaker 5: Yeah. You were in taper. And they canceled. They canceled 489 00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:39,660 Speaker 5: it. So you had done the complete training cycle, both 490 00:34:39,660 --> 00:34:45,870 Speaker 5: of you. And it was just unreal to watch and 491 00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:48,900 Speaker 5: just to see you train and it kind of... There 492 00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:50,580 Speaker 5: was nothing you could do. You couldn't even do it 493 00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:54,510 Speaker 5: virtually because the world literally shut down. But you got 494 00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:58,230 Speaker 5: Muncie Indiana in not too long after. And now you're 495 00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:02,310 Speaker 5: chasing your Six Stars with the marathon with Berlin and 496 00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:05,910 Speaker 5: London left to go. You... Well, we both just did 497 00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:10,110 Speaker 5: Tokyo. We both had a wonderful time in Tokyo. I got to see 498 00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:15,090 Speaker 5: you finish Chicago and New York. And New York, I 499 00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:17,009 Speaker 5: was actually at the finish line to see you come 500 00:35:17,010 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 5: in, which was one of the most emotional and incredible 501 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:25,710 Speaker 5: moments for me. But now you are not running everything 502 00:35:25,710 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 5: with Kayl. You've now got another training partner in me. 503 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,750 Speaker 5: And I think people always want to know what it's 504 00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:37,170 Speaker 5: like for us to run together and train together. So 505 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,250 Speaker 5: I'm going to give you a green card here to 506 00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 5: be honest, because I know your honesty, you're very polite 507 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,110 Speaker 5: normally when other people ask. But you can go for 508 00:35:49,110 --> 00:35:51,690 Speaker 5: it. What's it like? 509 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,890 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, we've shared a fair share of miles both training for... I mean, our 510 00:35:58,890 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 6: most recent race, Tokyo. Actually I did not train really 511 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,580 Speaker 6: at all for Tokyo, because I was quite sidelined with 512 00:36:05,850 --> 00:36:10,980 Speaker 6: some... Just being sick and the holidays and it just... 513 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:14,250 Speaker 6: But we still had a fun time on that race. 514 00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:22,260 Speaker 6: And Chicago and New York were quite last- minute decisions 515 00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 6: and actually decided by you. So I don't feel so 516 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,002 Speaker 6: bad pushing you into the 777 (inaudible) . 517 00:36:27,810 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 5: You've got your own back. 518 00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:36,510 Speaker 6: But those were... Yeah. I had always wanted to run New York. It's 519 00:36:36,510 --> 00:36:39,180 Speaker 6: such a special race. I've cheered on a number of 520 00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:45,330 Speaker 6: friends, have been on the sidelines for many of years. I'm not a huge fan of 521 00:36:45,330 --> 00:36:50,730 Speaker 6: training for fall races, because it just... Running in the 522 00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:54,420 Speaker 6: summer, the heat is tough. Just kind of... 523 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:55,410 Speaker 5: That's why we're different. 524 00:36:56,580 --> 00:37:01,410 Speaker 6: Yeah. Takes a bit away from social life. And I 525 00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:04,051 Speaker 6: think that's different now that our social life is... 526 00:37:04,051 --> 00:37:07,001 Speaker 5: I was going to say, what social life? (inaudible) 527 00:37:07,001 --> 00:37:12,900 Speaker 6: This was in our early 20s, I think. I didn't want to train during the 528 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 6: summer months. But both very, very fun races. Different. Each 529 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,810 Speaker 6: have their special moments. New York being able to... I 530 00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:28,468 Speaker 6: got to see T and give her a kiss right 531 00:37:28,469 --> 00:37:33,450 Speaker 6: by our house in Brooklyn. And then knowing that you 532 00:37:33,450 --> 00:37:37,860 Speaker 6: were at the finish line, we both had very special 533 00:37:38,010 --> 00:37:41,790 Speaker 6: days for us in New York. But as far as 534 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,710 Speaker 6: running with you, we've had some very good runs and 535 00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:49,620 Speaker 6: some very frustrating runs. 536 00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:54,750 Speaker 5: We've fallen out (inaudible) . Let's be honest. We've fallen 537 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:56,100 Speaker 5: out on one or two runs. 538 00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:02,670 Speaker 6: I think with the public listening, I want to just 539 00:38:02,670 --> 00:38:08,069 Speaker 6: clearly define going for a run and asking someone to 540 00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:11,310 Speaker 6: go for a run, whether it's a significant other or 541 00:38:11,489 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 6: a friend, and just what the unspoken rules are in 542 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 6: going for a run is that the slower person decides the 543 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,940 Speaker 6: pace. And the other person that accepted the, " Let's go 544 00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:30,989 Speaker 6: for a run." Matches that pace. And I would say 545 00:38:30,989 --> 00:38:35,580 Speaker 6: most of the time we are even keel, even though 546 00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:39,210 Speaker 6: I know that I'm holding you back. But every once 547 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:42,450 Speaker 6: in a while, as much as I love the view, 548 00:38:43,379 --> 00:38:49,620 Speaker 6: you're a few steps ahead of me. And if I decide like, I'm feeling 549 00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:52,290 Speaker 6: fit and want to push you a little bit, I 550 00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 6: just know you have so much more left in the tank. 551 00:38:55,170 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 6: And so even if I become even with you again, 552 00:38:59,730 --> 00:39:02,219 Speaker 6: you just keep pushing it faster and faster. So I 553 00:39:02,219 --> 00:39:04,140 Speaker 6: know that I just don't stand a chance. And I... 554 00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 5: I'm your coach. Listen, I'm your coach. I'm just trying 555 00:39:07,919 --> 00:39:11,189 Speaker 5: to help you get that speed workout in even when you didn't know 556 00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:11,700 Speaker 5: it was coming. 557 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,540 Speaker 6: That's it. 558 00:39:13,590 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 5: I've definitely had my ponytail pulled a few times by you. 559 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:24,180 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. So I sneak a headphone in my running 560 00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:28,410 Speaker 6: belt in case I find you 20 steps ahead of 561 00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 6: me. And I think that's the most difficult and challenging 562 00:39:31,890 --> 00:39:36,540 Speaker 6: is, why do we not just run next to each other? But 563 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:39,420 Speaker 6: it's not like you're miles ahead of me at this point. 564 00:39:39,989 --> 00:39:42,989 Speaker 6: And sometimes we do have those runs where we warm 565 00:39:42,989 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 6: up together and you have a speed session and you go on and we 566 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,850 Speaker 6: know our way home so we see each other back there. But 567 00:39:50,850 --> 00:39:54,660 Speaker 6: it's the runs that I find you only about 50 568 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:56,910 Speaker 6: feet ahead. And I'm just like, " Why wouldn't you just run with me?" 569 00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:01,590 Speaker 5: I blame our New York pathways. And that you're always 570 00:40:01,590 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 5: moving out of someone's way. And you're a gentleman. You 571 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,180 Speaker 5: let me go first. But yeah, I know. I've been 572 00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:14,002 Speaker 5: really trying to hone that in and I think it'd be really (inaudible) . 573 00:40:13,950 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 574 00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:19,950 Speaker 5: So let's talk about your... Now I realize that it 575 00:40:19,950 --> 00:40:24,002 Speaker 5: is kind of payback for signing you up for Chicago and (inaudible) . 576 00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 6: 1000%. 577 00:40:24,510 --> 00:40:29,670 Speaker 5: New York. And Tokyo. All in a few months. Which 578 00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 5: is now concerning me. But you and David Kilgore are 579 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:39,900 Speaker 5: the reasons why I'm doing 777 this November. And obviously 580 00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 5: David was the real- time inspiration. You and I sat 581 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,700 Speaker 5: there and followed him on his journey in February, 2023 582 00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:49,529 Speaker 5: when he did the race and we were just in 583 00:40:49,860 --> 00:40:54,540 Speaker 5: awe. And absolutely exhilarated by his performance on those seven 584 00:40:55,020 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 5: runs around the world. And then you just, as you 585 00:41:00,750 --> 00:41:03,870 Speaker 5: put it the other day, planted the seed and kept 586 00:41:03,870 --> 00:41:09,090 Speaker 5: watering it. And here we are. Here we are. Me asking you to 587 00:41:09,090 --> 00:41:12,330 Speaker 5: join me for many miles or as many as I 588 00:41:12,330 --> 00:41:18,569 Speaker 5: can or as many as you can training. And I think I 589 00:41:18,570 --> 00:41:24,150 Speaker 5: want to know what it's like live living with somebody who's 590 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 5: training for this race. 591 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,370 Speaker 6: To be on the sidelines. Yeah, no. I mean, watching... 592 00:41:29,370 --> 00:41:35,460 Speaker 6: We were in Naples, Florida. Which is a much shorter 593 00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:39,450 Speaker 6: drive than New York to Miami. And we were following 594 00:41:39,450 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 6: David that week. And I know you had him on 595 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:49,050 Speaker 6: here recently to talk about this challenge. And we were going to 596 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,989 Speaker 6: go see him at the finish line, because he's a 597 00:41:51,989 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 6: friend of ours. I was introduced to him by you. 598 00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:02,219 Speaker 6: And we had joined him on just... Who randomly decided 599 00:42:02,219 --> 00:42:05,819 Speaker 6: to go for a 100- mile run around New York. And 600 00:42:06,270 --> 00:42:10,980 Speaker 6: we've seen him do that. And I knew... I knew 601 00:42:10,980 --> 00:42:16,020 Speaker 6: that... I know what makes you happy and your gears 602 00:42:16,020 --> 00:42:20,819 Speaker 6: turn. And after Tokyo Marathon, I knew you wanted that 603 00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 6: sixth star. But you were ready for another challenge. And 604 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,940 Speaker 6: it's I think a very different challenge. And you're familiar with 605 00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:35,370 Speaker 6: the distance and you've constantly, every time, I mean, take 606 00:42:35,550 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 6: Tokyo away from it, but every race that you've trained for is 607 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:45,450 Speaker 6: always obviously time- focused. And so this was a challenge 608 00:42:45,450 --> 00:42:51,989 Speaker 6: that was the same distance, but more endurance. And I 609 00:42:51,989 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 6: mean, there's so many elements to what you're about to 610 00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:05,310 Speaker 6: embark on. Mental, physical, spiritual. But it was when we saw him finish 611 00:43:05,310 --> 00:43:11,130 Speaker 6: that, I knew, I could see that you were eyeing it up. And I just 612 00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:14,940 Speaker 6: had to vocalize it and put it out there. So 613 00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:20,910 Speaker 6: we both knew that it was on the table. And 614 00:43:20,910 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 6: I'd let you sit with it for a while. And I 615 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,620 Speaker 6: think after... We talked about it right after the race. And it 616 00:43:26,310 --> 00:43:29,310 Speaker 6: wasn't until after Tokyo that I think that you were like, " 617 00:43:29,310 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm ready for something." And that seemed to be 618 00:43:35,070 --> 00:43:36,810 Speaker 6: what you kept coming back to. I know there were 619 00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:40,950 Speaker 6: some other races that you have on your list that 620 00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:45,989 Speaker 6: you'd like to do one day, but this is something 621 00:43:45,989 --> 00:43:50,250 Speaker 6: that you may not be able to do or want 622 00:43:50,250 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 6: to do at a later point in your life where 623 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,860 Speaker 6: some of those other races are. And I know you've 624 00:43:56,850 --> 00:43:59,189 Speaker 6: got a big birthday in a couple of years and 625 00:43:59,189 --> 00:44:01,890 Speaker 6: you want to do it before then, so this seemed 626 00:44:01,890 --> 00:44:06,899 Speaker 6: like a good year to do it. Training with you is 627 00:44:08,670 --> 00:44:15,150 Speaker 6: actually nice. Because our friends, Kersh, who's your coach is 628 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,140 Speaker 6: giving you some times that are much more in my wheelhouse to 629 00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:25,170 Speaker 6: run (inaudible) . And I can actually, by coach's guidance, 630 00:44:25,290 --> 00:44:31,110 Speaker 6: pull you back to run slower (inaudible) , because it's 631 00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:34,230 Speaker 6: more time on feet than distance ran. 632 00:44:35,069 --> 00:44:35,070 Speaker 5: It is. 633 00:44:35,070 --> 00:44:41,250 Speaker 6: And so we've had some very nice runs recently. And it 634 00:44:41,250 --> 00:44:44,190 Speaker 6: also helps that you might have 80, 90 miles on your 635 00:44:44,190 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 6: legs during the week before we go on that first 636 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,670 Speaker 6: run, so I know you're a bit more tired. 637 00:44:52,110 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 5: I feel like my training has sort of helped amp 638 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,300 Speaker 5: up yours. Just a little bit. Given you that motivation 639 00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:01,529 Speaker 5: to start going to track workouts with Alex Kay from Peloton, Matt Wilpers, 640 00:45:01,530 --> 00:45:07,860 Speaker 5: Tunde. You go out on a Wednesday morning and you 641 00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:11,129 Speaker 5: do that workout, which I think is... Both of us 642 00:45:11,129 --> 00:45:12,780 Speaker 5: have got this energy right now. 643 00:45:12,959 --> 00:45:15,090 Speaker 6: No, I think it's like you mentioned earlier, it's like 644 00:45:16,110 --> 00:45:22,469 Speaker 6: our neighbors have seen us run and have always had food 645 00:45:22,469 --> 00:45:27,299 Speaker 6: around and gone for runs. We've seen two of them 646 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 6: run the marathon this year. And a couple more running 647 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 6: their first half marathon. And so there is this energy 648 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:43,739 Speaker 6: around, and that's not just running, that's in many elements I find in 649 00:45:43,739 --> 00:45:48,060 Speaker 6: life is when you're surrounded by people that motivate you, 650 00:45:50,460 --> 00:45:54,689 Speaker 6: it's tough to not be inspired by that. So seeing 651 00:45:54,690 --> 00:45:57,750 Speaker 6: you run and have the discipline, it reminds me a lot 652 00:45:57,750 --> 00:46:05,310 Speaker 6: of Ironman training, because it's the hard work are done in 653 00:46:05,310 --> 00:46:13,890 Speaker 6: the shadows. You're not rewarded every day with messages, compliments, 654 00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:19,739 Speaker 6: congratulations. It's not until your race day or race week for 655 00:46:19,739 --> 00:46:24,900 Speaker 6: what you're training for that people come out and wish 656 00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:29,460 Speaker 6: you luck and congratulate you. And so I have a 657 00:46:30,330 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 6: front row view of seeing the sweat, the tears, the 658 00:46:38,010 --> 00:46:46,980 Speaker 6: excitement, the nerves. I see all of that. And that very much 659 00:46:46,980 --> 00:46:49,230 Speaker 6: pushes me to... I'm not training for anything at the 660 00:46:49,230 --> 00:47:01,710 Speaker 6: moment. I go in cycles of training. I don't always have something on the calendar. I'd like 661 00:47:01,710 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 6: to just enjoy running as well and I think that's... I've 662 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,410 Speaker 6: had some time goals that I've hit. And I've been very excited by that. But it's also finding 663 00:47:16,410 --> 00:47:20,219 Speaker 6: the joy in sharing miles with you, sharing miles with 664 00:47:20,219 --> 00:47:27,930 Speaker 6: friends. Recently the track workouts have been very fun to have a group to 665 00:47:27,930 --> 00:47:30,601 Speaker 6: suffer with. Because the track is not- 666 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:30,602 Speaker 5: And our little girl. 667 00:47:30,601 --> 00:47:30,602 Speaker 6: And Tallulah. 668 00:47:30,602 --> 00:47:37,650 Speaker 5: And we get to share a lot of miles with Tallulah in the stroller. And we got to share a mile with 669 00:47:37,650 --> 00:47:41,430 Speaker 5: her at the weekend. Not that we're pushing her into running. 670 00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. She's pushing herself into running. She is... No, and I think that's 671 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 6: inspiring too of just, she's at an age now where 672 00:47:52,530 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 6: she's nearly two. And she sees us and what we do and she knows 673 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,380 Speaker 6: what we do. 674 00:47:59,310 --> 00:48:01,890 Speaker 5: Yeah. She knows mama run. Mama run. 675 00:48:01,890 --> 00:48:08,370 Speaker 6: And she's been to your work and has seen a 676 00:48:08,370 --> 00:48:11,790 Speaker 6: live class, so she very much knows what we're doing. 677 00:48:12,180 --> 00:48:15,630 Speaker 6: She enjoys going for a run. Even our babysitter is... 678 00:48:17,370 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 6: She only goes to her... We have two strollers. We have 679 00:48:20,670 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 6: a jogging stroller and a standard one. I'm actually about 680 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,350 Speaker 6: to put the standard one in storage, because she only 681 00:48:31,350 --> 00:48:31,561 Speaker 6: wants to go on the jogging stroller. 682 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:31,562 Speaker 5: Yeah. She only wants to go on the jogging stroller. That's it. 683 00:48:31,561 --> 00:48:36,002 Speaker 6: And it's... Yeah. It's (inaudible) . 684 00:48:36,002 --> 00:48:39,330 Speaker 5: Well, what can we do? We've got the inspiration, we've 685 00:48:39,330 --> 00:48:44,940 Speaker 5: got the little girl who is there. But well, thank 686 00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:48,510 Speaker 5: you for being my inspiration. Thank you for being my 687 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 5: push and my support network. Without you and T, there's 688 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,969 Speaker 5: no way I could be doing this at all. I'm 689 00:48:56,969 --> 00:48:58,890 Speaker 5: going to be pushing you to get your Six Star 690 00:48:58,890 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 5: Medal very, very soon. We're hoping for London to be 691 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 5: your Six Star next year. We'll have a big celebration 692 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,860 Speaker 5: there. And whatever future... I'm thinking the coach role. I 693 00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:14,250 Speaker 5: think you'd be really good at the coach role. But 694 00:49:14,250 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 5: thank you for... 695 00:49:16,379 --> 00:49:16,980 Speaker 6: I've got one client. 696 00:49:16,980 --> 00:49:19,830 Speaker 5: You've got one client. You've got me. Thank you for joining us 697 00:49:19,830 --> 00:49:24,390 Speaker 5: today for this episode, Aus, it was nice to chat with 698 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:29,219 Speaker 5: you about running and have honest conversations about couples' running goals. 699 00:49:29,250 --> 00:49:29,340 Speaker 6: Yes. 700 00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:33,060 Speaker 5: Where can people find you if they wanted to check 701 00:49:33,060 --> 00:49:33,781 Speaker 5: you out on social? 702 00:49:33,781 --> 00:49:34,500 Speaker 6: @becsgentry on Instagram. No. 703 00:49:41,130 --> 00:49:43,051 Speaker 5: You can find him on Instagram. 704 00:49:43,051 --> 00:49:50,519 Speaker 6: What's my... AustinJCurtis on Instagram. I am a very... It is 705 00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:53,190 Speaker 6: running, baby, and... 706 00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:55,110 Speaker 5: Pretty things. 707 00:49:55,140 --> 00:49:57,002 Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty things (inaudible) . 708 00:49:58,469 --> 00:50:01,230 Speaker 5: Well, thank you my love. And good luck for all 709 00:50:01,230 --> 00:50:02,670 Speaker 5: of your next miles. 710 00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 6: Thank you. 711 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,419 Speaker 5: Joining us today is Joanna Carter, a member of New York 712 00:50:21,420 --> 00:50:25,020 Speaker 5: Road Runners Striders. A free walking and fitness program for older 713 00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:29,190 Speaker 5: adults, age 55 and up. Joanna's passion for running sparked 714 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 5: in her childhood in Barbados has had to be put 715 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,190 Speaker 5: on hold at times due to health challenges. However, her 716 00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:39,569 Speaker 5: determination to stay active was never waned. After discovering the 717 00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:43,469 Speaker 5: Striders program, Joanna has found renewed inspiration and such a 718 00:50:43,469 --> 00:50:48,660 Speaker 5: supportive community helping her reclaim her love for running. Now 719 00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:52,140 Speaker 5: she's in her second year with the Striders. She continues to 720 00:50:52,140 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 5: build her strength and mobility aiming to celebrate her 75th 721 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,620 Speaker 5: birthday by participating in a half marathon. Proving that it 722 00:51:01,620 --> 00:51:04,950 Speaker 5: is never too late to reconnect with the joy of fitness. 723 00:51:05,310 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 7: Joanna, welcome to the podcast. 724 00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:09,450 Speaker 8: Thank you for having me. 725 00:51:09,450 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 7: It's an honor to have you. Thank you for being with us. 726 00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 7: You have been running all your life, but you recently 727 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 7: joined Striders. It turns out this is your second time 728 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 7: around with the New Yorker Road Runners after a long layoff. Can 729 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,549 Speaker 7: you tell us about what brought you to NYRR first 730 00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:28,590 Speaker 7: time around the 1980s and now in the '90s? 731 00:51:28,590 --> 00:51:33,900 Speaker 8: Well, in the '80s I was up here and I wanted to 732 00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:38,700 Speaker 8: run, because I always found that running was a release. Getting 733 00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:42,450 Speaker 8: out and being able to run, freedom sort of thing. 734 00:51:42,930 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 8: So I looked around and asked which clubs would have 735 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,350 Speaker 8: me and stuff. And I found New Yorker Road Runners. And that's 736 00:51:52,350 --> 00:51:55,739 Speaker 8: why I went with them. Plus, it was Central Park 737 00:51:55,739 --> 00:51:59,370 Speaker 8: running and that sort of thing. At that time most 738 00:51:59,370 --> 00:52:02,489 Speaker 8: of the races were over there. The runs and so 739 00:52:02,489 --> 00:52:06,300 Speaker 8: forth. So that's why I joined New Yorker Road Runners the first time around. 740 00:52:06,989 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 7: That's great. What brought you back to running after long, not 741 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,090 Speaker 7: being able to do? 742 00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:18,750 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was cycling and stuff, but this time I had this weird idea again, " 743 00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 8: Let me jump back into running." Because I wanted to 744 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:27,210 Speaker 8: celebrate my 75th birthday this year. And I said, " What 745 00:52:27,210 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 8: a better thing to do?" Kind of celebrate and run. So I 746 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:37,739 Speaker 8: found the Striders on Facebook and I said, " Let me 747 00:52:37,739 --> 00:52:41,430 Speaker 8: see." Because I figured if there... They had the exercise 748 00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 8: class and I know what exercises can do for your body 749 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,420 Speaker 8: to prepare you for running. And I said, " Let me 750 00:52:48,450 --> 00:52:51,509 Speaker 8: join them." And plus it would be with a group and that sort of 751 00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:55,170 Speaker 8: thing. And it's turned out to be very helpful. This 752 00:52:55,170 --> 00:52:58,469 Speaker 8: Striders exercises and that sort of thing. Yeah. 753 00:52:59,610 --> 00:53:03,569 Speaker 7: Exercise is important at all levels, but as we get 754 00:53:03,570 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 7: older is even more crucial, more important. In that regard, why 755 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 7: did you join Striders and how has that been going? 756 00:53:12,780 --> 00:53:15,660 Speaker 8: It's been going pretty good, being with the group. And 757 00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:18,690 Speaker 8: I must also mention to you too that I've been 758 00:53:18,690 --> 00:53:22,950 Speaker 8: trained while I was working, I trained to be NASM. So 759 00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 8: I know the importance of exercise and running. And plus 760 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 8: when it was with New York Road Runners, I did a thing with Grete Waitz, 761 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:37,469 Speaker 8: a camp. And I also did the running with... I don't 762 00:53:37,469 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 8: remember the names of... There was a husband and wife team that 763 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,549 Speaker 8: used to run, do training races in Central Park. And 764 00:53:44,550 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 8: that's where I learned to sprint and do... Because I 765 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,790 Speaker 8: used to train on my own, never had formal training. 766 00:53:51,330 --> 00:53:54,660 Speaker 8: But that group in the park helped me a lot 767 00:53:54,660 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 8: to really get into placing. Because I was running and 768 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,620 Speaker 8: stuff. But I like to compete, I like to, if 769 00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:03,570 Speaker 8: I run, I want to finish, I want to finish 770 00:54:03,570 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 8: up front. So that training helped me, in Central Park 771 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,489 Speaker 8: training. I can't remember the name we used to call 772 00:54:11,489 --> 00:54:15,810 Speaker 8: it. But yeah, I know that training and exercise and 773 00:54:15,810 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 8: nutrition and all that helps with running. Yes. 774 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,660 Speaker 7: It's a complete effort from walking to strength training to 775 00:54:24,660 --> 00:54:26,280 Speaker 7: mobility to nutrition. 776 00:54:26,940 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes. 777 00:54:28,739 --> 00:54:32,370 Speaker 7: It is important to have those moments, but you can 778 00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:38,430 Speaker 7: get away when you are in the 20s, 30s, or 40s. But what do you tell the Striders on to get 779 00:54:38,430 --> 00:54:39,870 Speaker 7: them to get into a routine? 780 00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:43,710 Speaker 8: Well, the thing is, I've been even trying to get 781 00:54:43,770 --> 00:54:48,510 Speaker 8: people to join with the Striders and stuff, but I find it's tough 782 00:54:48,510 --> 00:54:52,410 Speaker 8: because when you get older age like me, it's hard 783 00:54:52,410 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 8: to... I got a young... Not young. A person I 784 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 8: met (inaudible) a volunteer. Because I usually do bike 785 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,049 Speaker 8: volunteering and stuff. And I told her. She joined up 786 00:55:04,050 --> 00:55:05,850 Speaker 8: with me, she got the shirt and everything, but she 787 00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 8: hasn't gone back. And she got the shirt before I 788 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,430 Speaker 8: got my shirt. And I find it's very tough when 789 00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 8: you're a certain age. I've been sending out notices to 790 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,589 Speaker 8: friends. And even have a card I'm going to take 791 00:55:16,590 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 8: over tomorrow at a class to let her put up 792 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,739 Speaker 8: in her church, because I find that when people get older, 793 00:55:23,070 --> 00:55:26,250 Speaker 8: we sit and we don't want to bother. But if 794 00:55:26,250 --> 00:55:29,430 Speaker 8: you move, it helps you to... They don't realize that 795 00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:32,790 Speaker 8: the movement helps you to continue with everyday life and 796 00:55:32,790 --> 00:55:34,590 Speaker 8: that sort of thing. You know? Yeah. 797 00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:41,130 Speaker 7: Absolutely. Mobility is a positive energy to everybody. And doesn't 798 00:55:41,130 --> 00:55:43,230 Speaker 7: have to have be age or gender. It's always good 799 00:55:43,230 --> 00:55:45,810 Speaker 7: to be able to be positive example. But you'll be 800 00:55:45,810 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 7: running the Harlem 5K this weekend. 801 00:55:48,750 --> 00:55:48,989 Speaker 8: Yes. 802 00:55:48,989 --> 00:55:50,219 Speaker 7: What are you looking forward to? 803 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,770 Speaker 8: Just placing and better time. Because right now, I just... Because really this was supposed 804 00:55:55,770 --> 00:55:58,980 Speaker 8: to be a fun thing. The competition, yes, in my 805 00:55:58,980 --> 00:56:01,020 Speaker 8: mind I still, I like to see that I'm the 806 00:56:01,020 --> 00:56:06,210 Speaker 8: top with the Striders. Because I've been doing that. So what I 807 00:56:06,210 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 8: do each time is see if I could progress a 808 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:14,340 Speaker 8: little more. Because I wasn't running for a long time. So I know I have to, as you 809 00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:18,689 Speaker 8: say, (inaudible) then crawl, then go for it. So 810 00:56:18,690 --> 00:56:23,100 Speaker 8: yeah, now it's just to finish. Finish strong. The first time 811 00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:26,001 Speaker 8: I did it, I said, " When I get to the last mile, I'm going to speed up." No, I did not no speed up. But the second race I did, I found I (inaudible) 812 00:56:26,001 --> 00:56:42,150 Speaker 8: . And the last one I did, I had that last mile going. So it takes... When you haven't ran for a while it takes a while. And I even look back and say, "You know, Joanna, you probably 813 00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:44,910 Speaker 8: should have keep doing your little running and stuff." But 814 00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:48,239 Speaker 8: I switched over to cycling and that's what happened. Yeah, 815 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 8: I just stopped running and I was cycling. I would walk 816 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,910 Speaker 8: though. Because I used to walk. When I would start running, 817 00:56:54,210 --> 00:56:56,310 Speaker 8: I used to go for walks. In fact, that's how 818 00:56:56,310 --> 00:56:59,190 Speaker 8: I found out, you (inaudible) seen that I had 819 00:56:59,190 --> 00:57:04,170 Speaker 8: something bothering my heart, because at work I would notice 820 00:57:04,170 --> 00:57:06,540 Speaker 8: I go downstairs and I couldn't breathe. And I didn't 821 00:57:06,540 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 8: know what it was. And I was walking. And I told my primary 822 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,380 Speaker 8: care doctor, something is not right. And they sent me and 823 00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:18,060 Speaker 8: found that my right atrial was having a problem. So 824 00:57:18,060 --> 00:57:21,420 Speaker 8: I had ablation done. So I was walking for a 825 00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:24,780 Speaker 8: while before I started running back and riding. But I'm 826 00:57:24,780 --> 00:57:27,630 Speaker 8: good now. I'm good now. Because they tested me. I 827 00:57:27,630 --> 00:57:32,220 Speaker 8: put in my notes that I'm going to celebrate my 828 00:57:32,220 --> 00:57:36,270 Speaker 8: 75th by doing a marathon. And the doctor could read 829 00:57:36,270 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 8: my notes, because I'm at all these different hospitals (inaudible) NYU. 830 00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:43,170 Speaker 8: I told that doctor, my doctor at Presbyterian who's checking 831 00:57:43,170 --> 00:57:45,660 Speaker 8: my heart saw it, and he told me... I forgot 832 00:57:45,660 --> 00:57:48,780 Speaker 8: that it was to mention it to him. And he said, " 833 00:57:48,780 --> 00:57:51,510 Speaker 8: Wait, I noticed you're going to run. Wait, you didn't 834 00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:54,150 Speaker 8: tell me anything." And I said, "How did you see that?" He said, " In 835 00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 8: your notes." So yeah, and he sent me for a 836 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,030 Speaker 8: stress test. He said, " You're good to go." But I 837 00:58:00,030 --> 00:58:01,950 Speaker 8: am not good to go this year for a marathon, 838 00:58:01,950 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 8: because I listen to my body so much. For years 839 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,730 Speaker 8: I've been doing it. And it says, " That is a 840 00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:12,420 Speaker 8: bit..." So I'm going to do the half on Staten 841 00:58:12,420 --> 00:58:17,130 Speaker 8: Island and that will be my celebration. Then I'll be 75 842 00:58:17,550 --> 00:58:20,550 Speaker 8: when I'm running it. I'll be 75 years (inaudible) . Yeah, this year. 843 00:58:21,150 --> 00:58:25,410 Speaker 7: Well, congratulation on being healthy and moving and mobility. It's 844 00:58:25,410 --> 00:58:27,750 Speaker 7: wonderful to see. You've been an example to others. But 845 00:58:28,170 --> 00:58:31,620 Speaker 7: later this month you will be running the greatest Gallop 846 00:58:31,710 --> 00:58:34,830 Speaker 7: Race you ran almost 30 years ago. 847 00:58:34,890 --> 00:58:35,430 Speaker 8: Yes. 848 00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:37,950 Speaker 7: What does it feel like to return to the race 849 00:58:38,310 --> 00:58:41,100 Speaker 7: with so much more life experience behind you? 850 00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:45,060 Speaker 8: Yeah. When I first was signing up, because I had my 851 00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:47,340 Speaker 8: coach checking it for me, what could I do and 852 00:58:47,340 --> 00:58:50,460 Speaker 8: so forth from the Striders. And I didn't see that one up. 853 00:58:50,460 --> 00:58:52,830 Speaker 8: And then I saw that it's for members only. So I 854 00:58:52,830 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 8: sent her a note and said, " Could I get it?" 855 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,140 Speaker 8: Because I had such great... I have to look for it, because she 856 00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:00,419 Speaker 8: has signed a card for me and so forth when 857 00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 8: she was alive and stuff. And I had such fond memories of her. So I have to be in that 858 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:11,730 Speaker 8: one since that's also part of the celebration. When I saw 859 00:59:11,730 --> 00:59:14,370 Speaker 8: that, I was like, " Gee, I have to run that 860 00:59:14,370 --> 00:59:16,590 Speaker 8: race." So I got in and I'm so happy that 861 00:59:16,590 --> 00:59:21,300 Speaker 8: I would be able to do it. Although it's close to this one. Because normally I 862 00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:23,910 Speaker 8: wouldn't let two races be this close at my age, 863 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,290 Speaker 8: but I wanted to run it this weekend. And then 864 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 8: I saw that and I said, I would just go 865 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,230 Speaker 8: and finish it just to celebrate her and myself at 866 00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:35,791 Speaker 8: the same time. That sort of thing. Yeah. 867 00:59:35,791 --> 00:59:41,790 Speaker 7: Absolutely. Grete is an icon and what she did with Fred Lebow 868 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:44,010 Speaker 7: and what she have done for the New Yorker Road 869 00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:46,351 Speaker 7: Runners is incredible. I'm glad we'll honor her and glad you're going to participate. 870 00:59:46,351 --> 00:59:52,650 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going to her camp. I still have her notes and stuff. She give 871 00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 8: us things, how to run and stuff. I still have 872 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,860 Speaker 8: her printouts. Yeah, I keep those and stuff. And I 873 00:59:58,860 --> 01:00:00,870 Speaker 8: thought, when I was at my job I used to share 874 01:00:00,870 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 8: them with other people. Yeah. 875 01:00:04,620 --> 01:00:07,260 Speaker 7: Wonderful. Well, keep up the great work. We're so delightful 876 01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:08,820 Speaker 7: to have you here and keep up the great work. 877 01:00:09,540 --> 01:00:12,300 Speaker 8: Thank you for having me and so glad I could 878 01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:15,090 Speaker 8: even speak to you because this is also a pleasure. 879 01:00:15,780 --> 01:00:18,390 Speaker 8: This is when I saw your name, I said, " Jinx, I'm 880 01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:22,110 Speaker 8: going to talk to him." So yeah, I appreciate this. 881 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:22,441 Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate you and thank you for cheering for me and supporting me over the years. 882 01:00:22,441 --> 01:00:28,980 Speaker 5: Thank you for joining us, Joanna, and for being a member 883 01:00:28,980 --> 01:00:31,890 Speaker 5: of New York Road Runners. And now back to Meb for 884 01:00:31,890 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 5: this week's Meb Minute. 885 01:00:33,870 --> 01:00:37,650 Speaker 7: This week is be consistent. Consistency was the bedrock of my 886 01:00:37,650 --> 01:00:40,830 Speaker 7: success. I ran on the same day each week, which 887 01:00:40,830 --> 01:00:44,610 Speaker 7: builds discipline and steady improvement in my fitness. Find a 888 01:00:44,610 --> 01:00:46,950 Speaker 7: routine that works for you and stick to it. It 889 01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 7: pays off in the long run. For example, I had 890 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 7: an 8: 30 practice every single day of practice. Even 891 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,850 Speaker 7: when I was in college, I had eight 08:00 AM classes 892 01:00:56,910 --> 01:01:00,210 Speaker 7: and it just works to be able to have consistent and 893 01:01:00,210 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 7: stay to the target that you want. And fitness will 894 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,130 Speaker 7: come together slowly but surely. And you can make those 895 01:01:05,130 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 7: progress make big time. So be consistent and you'll do great. 896 01:01:10,650 --> 01:01:13,140 Speaker 5: That does it for another episode of Set the Pace, 897 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,010 Speaker 5: a huge thank you to Meb, Joanna, and of course Austin. 898 01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 5: Rob, I hope I held down the fort well enough 899 01:01:20,550 --> 01:01:23,190 Speaker 5: and I'm going to see you very shortly in Paris. 900 01:01:23,580 --> 01:01:26,490 Speaker 5: If you like this episode, please go ahead and subscribe, 901 01:01:26,610 --> 01:01:29,670 Speaker 5: rate, or leave a comment for the show on whatever 902 01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:33,420 Speaker 5: platform you're listening on. This not only helps us, but 903 01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:35,190 Speaker 5: it helps others find out about the show too.