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On 10 00:00:39,210 --> 00:00:40,229 Speaker 2: your mark. 11 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:45,900 Speaker 3: The first woman to finish for the second straight year here 12 00:00:45,900 --> 00:00:49,350 Speaker 3: in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman. A smiling Miki 13 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:53,309 Speaker 3: Gorman. And why not? 2: 29:30 a time for Grete Waitz. 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 4: Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes to 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,420 Speaker 4: the line, pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,930 Speaker 4: he so proudly wears across his chest. A great day 17 00:01:03,930 --> 00:01:09,870 Speaker 4: for Meb Keflezighi. 18 00:01:10,260 --> 00:01:13,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: Hello and welcome to another edition of Set the Pace 19 00:01:13,950 --> 00:01:17,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: presented by Peloton. We are the official podcast of New 20 00:01:17,310 --> 00:01:19,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: York Road Runners. I'm your host and the CEO of 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: NYRR, Rob Simmelkjaer. And with me also fresh back from 22 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:29,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: Paris, France, Becs Gentry, fresh off of her run in 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Marathon Pour Tous and her debut on NBC. Hello, 24 00:01:34,410 --> 00:01:35,039 Rob Simmelkjaer: Becs. How are you? 25 00:01:35,039 --> 00:01:35,040 Becs Gentry: Bonjour. 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,370 Rob Simmelkjaer: Bonjour. 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,001 Becs Gentry: (foreign language) 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:37,001 Rob Simmelkjaer: (foreign language) 29 00:01:39,150 --> 00:01:43,080 Becs Gentry: Good. A little tired. But yeah, very, very good. I 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,770 Becs Gentry: think we both got back yesterday evening and just rolling 31 00:01:46,770 --> 00:01:47,730 Becs Gentry: through the day today. 32 00:01:47,850 --> 00:01:53,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: That's right. Tuesday as we talk. And so we sadly 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,241 Rob Simmelkjaer: never saw each other in Paris. 34 00:01:54,241 --> 00:01:54,242 Becs Gentry: We tried. 35 00:01:54,242 --> 00:01:56,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: So this is going to be... We tried. We tried but- 36 00:01:56,820 --> 00:01:57,331 Becs Gentry: We did try. You very kindly did invite me. 37 00:01:57,331 --> 00:01:57,570 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... it's just so crazy over there. 38 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:00,630 Becs Gentry: It was wild. 39 00:02:00,630 --> 00:02:03,390 Rob Simmelkjaer: Everyone's so busy. I was there for a week. You 40 00:02:03,390 --> 00:02:06,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: got there really for the weekend around the marathon weekend. 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: So I want to start by asking you, how was 42 00:02:09,540 --> 00:02:10,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: your Olympics? 43 00:02:10,650 --> 00:02:15,900 Becs Gentry: It was phenomenal. Paris was different. I can't tell you 44 00:02:15,900 --> 00:02:19,050 Becs Gentry: how many times I have been to Paris. Having lived 45 00:02:19,050 --> 00:02:21,300 Becs Gentry: in London for 15 years. You just could pop there 46 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:24,810 Becs Gentry: for a day. This was a Paris I've never experienced 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,370 Becs Gentry: before. It was so vibrant. It still had the chic 48 00:02:29,610 --> 00:02:35,130 Becs Gentry: beauty, the culture, the history but it was amplified. And there 49 00:02:35,370 --> 00:02:39,450 Becs Gentry: was so much energy in Paris which I'm not used 50 00:02:39,450 --> 00:02:44,250 Becs Gentry: to seeing. Wait, I took it off because I had 51 00:02:44,250 --> 00:02:45,930 Becs Gentry: lunch I didn't want to spill on it, but I 52 00:02:45,930 --> 00:02:47,639 Becs Gentry: got my Paris jumper. 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,221 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'm showing Becs, for those listening, my little Eiffel Tower that I'm holding in my hand. Becs has a Paris 2024 sweatshirt. Yup. 54 00:02:50,221 --> 00:02:59,040 Becs Gentry: But it was just daunting everywhere. To see as much as you 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,899 Becs Gentry: can. I didn't know that my credentials got me in 56 00:03:04,020 --> 00:03:08,220 Becs Gentry: to the events. So we had planned to have dinner 57 00:03:08,430 --> 00:03:10,440 Becs Gentry: and then all of a sudden, I bump into somebody and 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,110 Becs Gentry: they're like... I'm looking at tickets on my phone and they're, " 59 00:03:13,169 --> 00:03:15,840 Becs Gentry: What are you doing? You know what you're wearing around 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,070 Becs Gentry: your neck gets you in. Track side." So I'm like, "Rob, 61 00:03:20,580 --> 00:03:23,010 Becs Gentry: I'm so sorry, but do you mind if I go 62 00:03:23,010 --> 00:03:23,340 Becs Gentry: to track?" 63 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:26,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: I don't blame you one bit. 100%. We can have 64 00:03:26,549 --> 00:03:27,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: dinner in New York. Absolutely. 65 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:31,740 Becs Gentry: But the night I went which was... What was that? 66 00:03:32,070 --> 00:03:36,630 Becs Gentry: Friday night. And I got to see some races that 67 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:42,000 Becs Gentry: really blew me away. The women's relay race, the men's 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:48,090 Becs Gentry: relay race with the unfortunate fumble, the long jump... The 69 00:03:48,090 --> 00:03:52,890 Becs Gentry: list goes on. There was just so much. Yeah. But you 70 00:03:52,890 --> 00:03:55,890 Becs Gentry: saw a wide variety of things. You were everywhere. 71 00:03:56,370 --> 00:04:00,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: I was so lucky, Becs. Had such a tremendous time. 72 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:04,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: Was there for the full second week, so from Monday 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: to closing ceremony. There was so much to see, Becs, 74 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: but since we're talking running on this podcast, and track 75 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:16,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: and field was really in so many ways the highlight 76 00:04:16,020 --> 00:04:17,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: of the United States' performance- 77 00:04:17,820 --> 00:04:17,820 Becs Gentry: It was. 78 00:04:17,820 --> 00:04:18,540 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... over there- 79 00:04:18,660 --> 00:04:18,661 Becs Gentry: Truly. 80 00:04:18,661 --> 00:04:22,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... did well in many, many sports, obviously, but almost, 81 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: I think half the gold medals or something like that 82 00:04:25,170 --> 00:04:28,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: the U. S. won were from track and field. I 83 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: was lucky enough to be there on what I thought 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: was one of the most memorable, if not the most 85 00:04:34,770 --> 00:04:37,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: memorable night of the Olympics for the U. S., which 86 00:04:37,589 --> 00:04:41,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: was the Tuesday night that you had Gabby Thomas winning 87 00:04:41,850 --> 00:04:46,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: gold in the 200 meters and you had Cole Hocker. 88 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:52,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: Cole Hocker and the men's 1500, that is a race 89 00:04:52,380 --> 00:04:55,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: that will be legendary for the- 90 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:55,561 Becs Gentry: History. 91 00:04:55,561 --> 00:04:59,729 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... rest of history of United States running. What he 92 00:04:59,730 --> 00:05:04,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: did to stay with that pace, to come back, and the 93 00:05:04,830 --> 00:05:08,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: kick of all time when he found that inside lane 94 00:05:08,970 --> 00:05:18,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: got past the favorites, Ingebrigtsen, your British co- patriot there 95 00:05:18,750 --> 00:05:22,409 Rob Simmelkjaer: as well, to come through and win gold was something 96 00:05:22,410 --> 00:05:25,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: that no one will ever forget. I still can see 97 00:05:25,650 --> 00:05:28,440 Rob Simmelkjaer: it from my own eyes and my vantage point on... I was on 98 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: the far stretch but could see it on the other 99 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: side of the track and I just... It looked like he 100 00:05:34,050 --> 00:05:36,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: was shot out of a rocket. So it was just incredible 101 00:05:36,210 --> 00:05:36,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: to watch that. 102 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:40,289 Becs Gentry: Even when he tried to go past Jakob and Jakob 103 00:05:40,290 --> 00:05:44,190 Becs Gentry: came in a little and defended his position, which it's 104 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,190 Becs Gentry: track, it's track. Can't get mad at that. He was 105 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:51,210 Becs Gentry: trying to defend where he thought he was. Cole, it 106 00:05:51,570 --> 00:05:55,680 Becs Gentry: all happened so quickly. We're talking thousands of a second 107 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,630 Becs Gentry: that this actually happened. But in the eyes of the 108 00:05:57,630 --> 00:06:02,070 Becs Gentry: beholder, it looked like Cole almost just took a moment 109 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:06,930 Becs Gentry: where he leant back a little and went, " Uh- uh," 110 00:06:07,230 --> 00:06:11,430 Becs Gentry: and everything in his body shifted and he went into 111 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:15,630 Becs Gentry: superhero mode to get past him. There was one thing 112 00:06:15,630 --> 00:06:17,250 Becs Gentry: or one thing only that was going to happen for 113 00:06:17,250 --> 00:06:19,801 Becs Gentry: Cole Hocker that night and it did. He won gold. 114 00:06:19,801 --> 00:06:22,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: It was amazing. It was amazing. So good to see that. 115 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:29,430 Becs Gentry: And also Rai Benjamin running is incredible. Incredible race as 116 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:33,240 Becs Gentry: well. He also... He and Cole in that moment looked 117 00:06:33,450 --> 00:06:38,010 Becs Gentry: the same in how they finished. Their form for professional 118 00:06:38,010 --> 00:06:42,150 Becs Gentry: athletes almost looked like a normal runner really trying to 119 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:48,120 Becs Gentry: go hard. Same with Grant Fisher. Came out of middle 120 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Becs Gentry: of the front lead pack. So it was always in 121 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:56,880 Becs Gentry: contention. It's like these people just gathered an extra gear 122 00:06:56,910 --> 00:06:59,640 Becs Gentry: in their power. Each of them. Grant had me on 123 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,240 Becs Gentry: the floor. I was at home screaming at the television 124 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,820 Becs Gentry: for Grant. He is a local Connecticut guy so it 125 00:07:05,820 --> 00:07:09,089 Becs Gentry: was... Oh my goodness. So cool. Yeah, we could talk about it for hours. 126 00:07:09,089 --> 00:07:12,720 Rob Simmelkjaer: It was amazing. We could talk all day. And then 127 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: aside from the track and field, I had a chance 128 00:07:15,630 --> 00:07:18,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: to go around. I went to the beach volleyball venue. 129 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: I hope you made it to that. That was probably 130 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:23,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: the most iconic venue right there in the shadow of 131 00:07:23,490 --> 00:07:24,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: the Eiffel Tower. 132 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:24,989 Becs Gentry: So cool. 133 00:07:25,470 --> 00:07:28,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: I think what made these Olympics so special... Paris of 134 00:07:28,260 --> 00:07:33,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: course has this incredible set of iconic places, but the 135 00:07:33,090 --> 00:07:35,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: way they use them was so perfect. From the Eiffel 136 00:07:35,970 --> 00:07:40,140 Rob Simmelkjaer: Tower and beach volleyball to the fencing at the Grand 137 00:07:40,140 --> 00:07:44,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: Palais right there on the Seine to Versailles and the equestrian- 138 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:44,551 Becs Gentry: Equestrian. 139 00:07:44,551 --> 00:07:50,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... happening right there in the Palace Garden. It was 140 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:54,179 Rob Simmelkjaer: simply amazing. And then of course, the Seine itself and 141 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:55,860 Rob Simmelkjaer: the fact that they were able to get it clean 142 00:07:55,860 --> 00:07:59,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: enough that athletes were able to jump in there and 143 00:07:59,430 --> 00:08:02,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: swim and they had the triathlon and other events in there, 144 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:04,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: and it all seemed to go just fine. So that 145 00:08:04,740 --> 00:08:07,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: was incredible. But, Becs, for me, what was best about these 146 00:08:07,890 --> 00:08:11,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: Olympics was, and I don't know how much you've been 147 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: to France, I'm a bit of a Francophile. I've been 148 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: to France many times. I speak- 149 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:15,301 Becs Gentry: Same. 150 00:08:15,301 --> 00:08:19,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... enough French to be dangerous. I know enough about 151 00:08:19,590 --> 00:08:24,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: Parisians to see how it all played out. The vibe 152 00:08:24,270 --> 00:08:28,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: was so negative going into these Olympics among the French, 153 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: among the Parisians, it was going to be a disaster. 154 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:34,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: They didn't want to be around for it. So many of 155 00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:37,589 Rob Simmelkjaer: them left the city. They were worried about security with 156 00:08:37,590 --> 00:08:40,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: good reason given some of the history of what's happened 157 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,809 Rob Simmelkjaer: in France. Very understandable. Many of them had left and then 158 00:08:46,290 --> 00:08:53,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: it started. That beautiful opening ceremony, the unbelievable singing. Everything 159 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: we saw during that. And then the medal started to 160 00:08:56,610 --> 00:08:59,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: be given out. France did so well. 161 00:08:59,220 --> 00:08:59,790 Becs Gentry: So very, very well. 162 00:08:59,790 --> 00:09:02,220 Rob Simmelkjaer: Léon Marchand did so well. 163 00:09:02,220 --> 00:09:02,910 Becs Gentry: Yes, the swimming. 164 00:09:03,210 --> 00:09:05,699 Rob Simmelkjaer: Teams were doing well left and right. The medal started 165 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:10,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: to come. And the French got so excited that it 166 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: became like a transformation. I have some Parisian friends who 167 00:09:14,490 --> 00:09:16,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: said that they were getting calls from friends who had 168 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:19,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: left town that were now trying to get back into 169 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:22,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: Paris, so they could get tickets for things the second 170 00:09:22,590 --> 00:09:25,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: week, because they realized they were missing out on something 171 00:09:25,890 --> 00:09:31,320 Rob Simmelkjaer: really special. It was just a moment, Becs, where Paris came 172 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,900 Rob Simmelkjaer: together and they had a lot of division there and 173 00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:36,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: election just not long before it. But to see the 174 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: French come together and to see the world come together 175 00:09:39,420 --> 00:09:42,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: the way it did, only the Olympics can do that. 176 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:43,141 Becs Gentry: Only the Olympics. 177 00:09:43,141 --> 00:09:46,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: Only the Olympics truly can do that. The marathon in New York, we 178 00:09:46,770 --> 00:09:49,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: can do a lot, but for two weeks? 179 00:09:49,740 --> 00:09:50,581 Becs Gentry: Yeah. To combine the whole world. 180 00:09:50,581 --> 00:09:53,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: To have people come together from all over the world playing all 181 00:09:53,340 --> 00:09:56,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: these sports and... Not just the athletes but the families 182 00:09:56,580 --> 00:09:59,490 Rob Simmelkjaer: and the fans. It was just a giant party. And 183 00:09:59,490 --> 00:10:00,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: it was one of the best things I've ever been 184 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: a part of- 185 00:10:01,170 --> 00:10:01,231 Becs Gentry: It was. 186 00:10:01,231 --> 00:10:02,970 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... or even had a chance just to witness. 187 00:10:03,179 --> 00:10:06,479 Becs Gentry: I agree. Having run the Marathon Pour Tous on the 188 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,070 Becs Gentry: Saturday night, I have never heard so much French being 189 00:10:11,070 --> 00:10:16,920 Becs Gentry: shouted. They're not normally known to be that vivacious when 190 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,610 Becs Gentry: it comes to cheering. I kid you not. There was one 191 00:10:20,610 --> 00:10:23,520 Becs Gentry: point along that race, I honestly was like, " Be quiet. 192 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:26,640 Becs Gentry: Please just be quiet. If I hear alle, alle, alle one 193 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Becs Gentry: more time, I'm going to lose it." Because they were 194 00:10:29,610 --> 00:10:32,579 Becs Gentry: nonstop. There was not a gap in cheering. It was 195 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,400 Becs Gentry: like New York for that. There was not a gap. 196 00:10:35,490 --> 00:10:38,640 Becs Gentry: And they were... I would say 90% of the words I 197 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,520 Becs Gentry: heard were French and the people were French with French 198 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,020 Becs Gentry: signs cheering their friends and their strangers. It was the 199 00:10:46,020 --> 00:10:51,179 Becs Gentry: most welcome I've ever felt in Paris this trip, which 200 00:10:51,540 --> 00:10:56,400 Becs Gentry: is... It's huge. Well done. Bravo, Paris. Bravo. 201 00:10:56,850 --> 00:11:00,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: Bravo. Indeed. A few things that I'll want to just 202 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,849 Rob Simmelkjaer: point out in terms to some folks that we all 203 00:11:02,850 --> 00:11:05,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: know here, of course, in our Set the Pace world. 204 00:11:06,179 --> 00:11:08,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: I want to just give a shout- out to Conner 205 00:11:08,429 --> 00:11:12,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: Mantz and Clayton Young who finished in the top 10 in 206 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:17,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: the men's marathon. These are two American men who I 207 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,189 Rob Simmelkjaer: don't think a lot of folks would've seen doing this 208 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: to finish in the top 10 in the Olympic Marathon, which 209 00:11:23,550 --> 00:11:27,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: was an Olympic record setting marathon. And by the way, 210 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:33,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: the winner of that marathon, Tamirat Tola, the defending champion 211 00:11:33,090 --> 00:11:36,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: of the TCS New York City Marathon, so congratulations to Tamirat 212 00:11:36,750 --> 00:11:40,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: Tola. And I just want to say for Tamirat Tola, 213 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: and of course I'm saying this from my position as 214 00:11:43,050 --> 00:11:45,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: CEO but I think this is pretty valid to say, 215 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:49,950 Rob Simmelkjaer: what a great decision he made to run the 2023 216 00:11:50,190 --> 00:11:54,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: TCS New York City Marathon because what he got from 217 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,809 Rob Simmelkjaer: that, learning how to handle the hills the way he 218 00:11:57,809 --> 00:12:00,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: did, there is no question that came in handy for 219 00:12:00,450 --> 00:12:02,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: him. And to see him perform the way he did 220 00:12:02,850 --> 00:12:05,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: on one of the hilliest marathon courses, and Becs, you 221 00:12:05,610 --> 00:12:08,459 Rob Simmelkjaer: can speak to this because you ran it, that anybody had 222 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:11,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: ever seen, and to go out and run an Olympic 223 00:12:11,309 --> 00:12:14,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: record on that course, and to run away and hide 224 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:17,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: from the field the way he did, I don't think 225 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: that happens if he had not done something very similar 226 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,200 Rob Simmelkjaer: less than a year ago in New York. 227 00:12:22,410 --> 00:12:26,459 Becs Gentry: I agree. It set him up so, so well. The 228 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:32,040 Becs Gentry: course was incredibly challenging. New York isn't an easy course. 229 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,110 Becs Gentry: New York and Boston are renowned for being two of 230 00:12:34,110 --> 00:12:37,050 Becs Gentry: the world marathon majors that are the toughest because of the 231 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:42,330 Becs Gentry: hills. The gradient is high. This course is the toughest 232 00:12:42,330 --> 00:12:46,650 Becs Gentry: in Olympic marathon course history by a long, long way. 233 00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:51,150 Becs Gentry: Not a small thing. And 10 to 13% incline on that one 234 00:12:51,150 --> 00:12:56,130 Becs Gentry: hill, which saw some of the greats walking. And for 235 00:12:56,130 --> 00:12:59,130 Becs Gentry: me, on the Marathon Pour Tous, most people stopped to 236 00:12:59,130 --> 00:13:02,069 Becs Gentry: walk. I will big myself up here. I did not. 237 00:13:02,250 --> 00:13:04,530 Becs Gentry: I did not. I ran all the way. Up every 238 00:13:04,530 --> 00:13:06,990 Becs Gentry: single hill. Did not stop to walk. But I could 239 00:13:06,990 --> 00:13:10,860 Becs Gentry: see why, because it was shockingly steep. But yeah, oh 240 00:13:10,860 --> 00:13:14,070 Becs Gentry: my gosh, everyone did so well. But... Yeah. 241 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,099 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah. You talked about stopping to walk, and I'll just 242 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:19,559 Rob Simmelkjaer: flip to the women's side for a second. Dakotah Lindwurm, of 243 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,751 Rob Simmelkjaer: course, our friend and former guest on Set the Pace. 244 00:13:21,751 --> 00:13:21,871 Becs Gentry: Big shout out, Dakotah. 245 00:13:22,710 --> 00:13:25,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: She talked about wanting to actually stop and grab her 246 00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:27,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: quads and push herself up those hills. 247 00:13:27,780 --> 00:13:28,290 Becs Gentry: Yeah, human four by four. 248 00:13:28,290 --> 00:13:31,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: Congratulations to Dakotah Lindwurm. She had a great day. She ended 249 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:32,341 Rob Simmelkjaer: up finishing 12th- 250 00:13:32,341 --> 00:13:32,851 Becs Gentry: 12th, yeah. 251 00:13:32,851 --> 00:13:34,890 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... but at one point was in the lead. She 252 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: was feeling great, took a lead at one point, and- 253 00:13:37,830 --> 00:13:41,429 Becs Gentry: She led the women's olympic marathon race. Nothing's ever going 254 00:13:41,429 --> 00:13:42,210 Becs Gentry: to take that away from her. 255 00:13:42,510 --> 00:13:44,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: Nothing will ever take that away from her. And do you 256 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: know what else she did after she finished 12th in that marathon? 257 00:13:47,610 --> 00:13:48,179 Becs Gentry: She got engaged. 258 00:13:48,179 --> 00:13:51,059 Rob Simmelkjaer: She pulled down, she walked over, and her boyfriend got 259 00:13:51,059 --> 00:13:53,521 Rob Simmelkjaer: on one knee and popped the question and she said yes. 260 00:13:53,521 --> 00:13:53,521 Becs Gentry: Congratulations. 261 00:13:53,521 --> 00:13:58,920 Rob Simmelkjaer: Dakotah Lindwurm is now a fiancé. What a way to experience- 262 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Becs Gentry: And an Olympian. A double... 263 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:58,921 Rob Simmelkjaer: An Olympian- 264 00:13:58,921 --> 00:14:02,460 Becs Gentry: A big life- changing week for her. 265 00:14:02,910 --> 00:14:05,309 Rob Simmelkjaer: It was incredible. I was so happy for her, for 266 00:14:05,309 --> 00:14:11,099 Rob Simmelkjaer: her boyfriend. That was an incredible moment. Sifan Hassan putting 267 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,590 Rob Simmelkjaer: on one of the greatest performances in the history of 268 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:18,209 Rob Simmelkjaer: Olympic running to win the 5K, the 10K, and the marathon the 269 00:14:18,210 --> 00:14:21,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: same week. Almost mind boggling that a person could even 270 00:14:21,780 --> 00:14:24,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: do that. And for her to have the leg she 271 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:29,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: had, finishing that race in a sprint was just incredible. 272 00:14:29,430 --> 00:14:32,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: So congratulations to her. And to our friend Hellen Obiri 273 00:14:32,910 --> 00:14:36,030 Rob Simmelkjaer: who got a bronze medal in that really grueling race 274 00:14:36,030 --> 00:14:38,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: as well. We have Set the Pace guests all over 275 00:14:38,430 --> 00:14:40,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: the place back to the Olympics and it was so exciting 276 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: to see. Well, with all the excitement in the Paris 277 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: Olympics, we don't want to lose sight of the running 278 00:14:46,020 --> 00:14:48,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: we had right here in New York last weekend, and 279 00:14:48,810 --> 00:14:51,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: there was a lot of it. It was the Percy 280 00:14:51,210 --> 00:14:54,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: Sutton Harlem 5K kicking off Harlem Week and we had 281 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:59,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: over 5000 runners, including 29 Run For The Future participants. 282 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: Those are the young ladies who are part of that 283 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:05,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: great program that introduces them to running as they're around 284 00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:06,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: their senior year of high school. We also had more 285 00:15:06,810 --> 00:15:11,910 Rob Simmelkjaer: than 100 Striders participating, our older adults walking program as well. 286 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:15,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: So congrats to everybody who participated in the Percy Sutton 287 00:15:15,420 --> 00:15:18,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: Harlem 5K. We also of course had the TCS New 288 00:15:18,780 --> 00:15:22,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: York City Marathon training series 10 miler. That was another 289 00:15:22,620 --> 00:15:25,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: good one. The first in our two race training series, 290 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:29,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: more than 4400 runners joined us on that one. These 291 00:15:29,310 --> 00:15:32,310 Rob Simmelkjaer: are a great way to charge up your marathon training. 292 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,280 Rob Simmelkjaer: The next one will be the 12 miler, which will 293 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: be later this month. I'm going to be doing that 294 00:15:36,930 --> 00:15:40,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: one myself. So that's always a lot of fun. And 295 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:45,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: then of course, we are ticking ever closer to the 2024 TCS 296 00:15:45,630 --> 00:15:48,990 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York City Marathon now 12 weeks out. And of 297 00:15:48,990 --> 00:15:51,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: course, our man, Meb Keflezighi will be here a little later 298 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:54,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: in the show for his weekly training tip. So stay 299 00:15:54,690 --> 00:15:57,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: tuned for that. But remember, if you've got questions about 300 00:15:57,420 --> 00:16:01,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: training, you can reach out to us directly by leaving 301 00:16:01,110 --> 00:16:03,840 Rob Simmelkjaer: a comment about the show on the Apple Podcast app. 302 00:16:04,140 --> 00:16:07,470 Rob Simmelkjaer: You can ask your question to Meb, to Becs, even 303 00:16:07,470 --> 00:16:08,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: to me if you think I can give you a 304 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,340 Rob Simmelkjaer: good answer and we'll answer it right here on the 305 00:16:11,340 --> 00:16:14,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: show. And of course, this week is New York Road 306 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: Runners first ever member week. We are so excited to 307 00:16:17,820 --> 00:16:20,580 Rob Simmelkjaer: launch this as a way to recognize all of our 308 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:24,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: tremendous members, over 75,000 of you by the way right 309 00:16:24,930 --> 00:16:27,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: now. We want to thank all of you for bringing so 310 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: much passion and energy to New York Road Runners. As 311 00:16:31,050 --> 00:16:33,240 Rob Simmelkjaer: a way to say thanks, we've got some member get- 312 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: togethers going on this week. Also, Grete's Great Gallop, the 313 00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:40,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: 10K, is a member only event this year. So that's 314 00:16:40,350 --> 00:16:42,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: a way for us to say thanks. So whether you've 315 00:16:42,090 --> 00:16:45,270 Rob Simmelkjaer: run one race or 500, you're just such a big 316 00:16:45,270 --> 00:16:48,090 Rob Simmelkjaer: part of what makes New York Road Runners the impactful 317 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:50,790 Rob Simmelkjaer: community that it is, and we thank you for your 318 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:51,780 Rob Simmelkjaer: continued support. 319 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,960 Becs Gentry: Looking to up your running game this summer, go and 320 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,160 Becs Gentry: check out the Peloton Tread+. It's rubberized, shock absorbing slap 321 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,250 Becs Gentry: out allows you to run, walk, and train comfortably with 322 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:05,909 Becs Gentry: a lower impact step. Plus, you get access to world- 323 00:17:05,910 --> 00:17:09,810 Becs Gentry: class instructors guiding you through every step. 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Peloton, the official digital fitness partner for New York 328 00:17:27,630 --> 00:17:28,260 Becs Gentry: Road Runners. 329 00:17:28,859 --> 00:17:31,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: This week is member week at New York Road Runners. 330 00:17:31,290 --> 00:17:34,500 Rob Simmelkjaer: A week where we celebrate all of our incredible members 331 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:36,960 Rob Simmelkjaer: and we thought to do that today, we would have 332 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,419 Rob Simmelkjaer: on, not just a member, but a member of New 333 00:17:39,420 --> 00:17:43,919 Rob Simmelkjaer: York Road Runners for 50 years. Dr. Leo. Murillo first 334 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: conquered the New York City Marathon in 1974 and now 335 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:51,600 Rob Simmelkjaer: on the 50th anniversary of that race, he is going 336 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: to take on the challenge once more. His career includes 337 00:17:55,980 --> 00:17:59,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: not only marathons but stellar performances in cross country and 338 00:17:59,550 --> 00:18:04,020 Rob Simmelkjaer: track, particularly in the steeplechase where he holds top rankings 339 00:18:04,020 --> 00:18:08,100 Rob Simmelkjaer: both nationally and globally in the masters divisions. So much 340 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:11,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: about the TCS New York City Marathon has changed since 341 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,429 Rob Simmelkjaer: 1974 from the starting line to the course, to the 342 00:18:14,430 --> 00:18:17,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: number of runners, to the amenities, Leo's going to take 343 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: us back on a trip in time to the 1974 344 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,980 Rob Simmelkjaer: marathon to tell us about what it was like to 345 00:18:22,980 --> 00:18:27,149 Rob Simmelkjaer: race in that 50 years ago. Leo, it is so 346 00:18:27,150 --> 00:18:29,399 Rob Simmelkjaer: great to have you on. I'm just going to tell 347 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: the listeners real fast the story here, because I was 348 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: opening my mail one day at New York Road Runners 349 00:18:35,820 --> 00:18:40,619 Rob Simmelkjaer: and there was this big envelope. I opened it up 350 00:18:40,619 --> 00:18:44,369 Rob Simmelkjaer: and what I opened up was this trove, this treasure 351 00:18:44,369 --> 00:18:51,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: trove of pictures and articles and the story of Leo 352 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:54,869 Rob Simmelkjaer: Murillo the Runner, and then a letter telling me your 353 00:18:54,869 --> 00:18:58,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: story and telling me how it would mean so much 354 00:18:58,619 --> 00:19:03,420 Rob Simmelkjaer: for you to run this 50th anniversary. Leo, I get 355 00:19:03,420 --> 00:19:05,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: a lot of letters like that. I get a lot 356 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,609 Rob Simmelkjaer: of emails and social media DMs asking to get into 357 00:19:08,609 --> 00:19:11,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: the marathon and I'll be honest, I mostly don't do 358 00:19:11,970 --> 00:19:14,369 Rob Simmelkjaer: anything with them because I can't. There's so many of them 359 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:17,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: but yours just really stood out. It took me a 360 00:19:17,700 --> 00:19:19,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: while. I think about a month and a half later, 361 00:19:20,220 --> 00:19:23,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: I picked up the phone and called you and let 362 00:19:23,730 --> 00:19:25,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: you know that we were going to let you in 363 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:28,740 Rob Simmelkjaer: to the marathon this year because of this incredible story. 364 00:19:28,740 --> 00:19:31,619 Rob Simmelkjaer: So congratulations and welcome to Set the Pace. 365 00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:35,790 Dr. Leo Murillo: Thank you. Thank you. When I received your phone call, 366 00:19:35,790 --> 00:19:41,010 Dr. Leo Murillo: it was very moving and very meaningful for me, that 367 00:19:41,010 --> 00:19:42,960 Dr. Leo Murillo: I was able to get through, and so here I 368 00:19:44,430 --> 00:19:47,940 Dr. Leo Murillo: was. Be able to do this again one more time 369 00:19:47,940 --> 00:19:50,580 Dr. Leo Murillo: again. So thank you. Thank you for that, Rob. 370 00:19:52,740 --> 00:19:56,880 Becs Gentry: Dr. Murillo, I am in awe of you. I love 371 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,240 Becs Gentry: any person who can continue to move their body in 372 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,940 Becs Gentry: such a strong way for as long as you have. 373 00:20:02,940 --> 00:20:07,140 Becs Gentry: I think there needs to be more voices like yours 374 00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:10,320 Becs Gentry: out there in the world explaining to the younger generations 375 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,109 Becs Gentry: just how to look after their bodies in the way 376 00:20:13,109 --> 00:20:17,400 Becs Gentry: you have to ensure we have longevity in the movement 377 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,670 Becs Gentry: that we love, which is running. But what I really 378 00:20:20,670 --> 00:20:23,580 Becs Gentry: want to know, amongst a lot of other things, is 379 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:27,300 Becs Gentry: why did you choose to run the New York City 380 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:30,271 Becs Gentry: Marathon 50 years ago? 381 00:20:30,271 --> 00:20:37,320 Dr. Leo Murillo: Okay. I began running in 1964. I was living in 382 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:44,250 Dr. Leo Murillo: Colombia, South America. I'm originating from Colombia. And then my 383 00:20:44,250 --> 00:20:48,270 Dr. Leo Murillo: uncle invited me to go see something that I never 384 00:20:48,270 --> 00:20:53,730 Dr. Leo Murillo: seen before. I used to love soccer. Football, what we 385 00:20:53,730 --> 00:20:57,390 Dr. Leo Murillo: call it. So I reluctantly went, " Okay, let me go 386 00:20:57,390 --> 00:21:00,750 Dr. Leo Murillo: to see this event." It was the South American Cross 387 00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:05,760 Dr. Leo Murillo: Country Championships. What I saw there, I was very impressed, 388 00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:12,090 Dr. Leo Murillo: especially by the winner. The name of the winner was Álvaro Mejía, who became 389 00:21:12,090 --> 00:21:17,850 Dr. Leo Murillo: an Olympian in 1964, 1968, and 1972 Olympics in the 10, 000 meters on 390 00:21:17,850 --> 00:21:20,820 Dr. Leo Murillo: the marathon. And then I got to meet him and 391 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:22,830 Dr. Leo Murillo: things like that. So I decided that I wanted to 392 00:21:22,830 --> 00:21:26,850 Dr. Leo Murillo: become a cross country runner. Once I moved to United 393 00:21:26,850 --> 00:21:31,710 Dr. Leo Murillo: States and I began to attend high school, I joined 394 00:21:31,710 --> 00:21:34,980 Dr. Leo Murillo: the track team and the cross- country team, of course, 395 00:21:35,609 --> 00:21:38,430 Dr. Leo Murillo: and I was very much interested only in cross- country and 396 00:21:38,430 --> 00:21:43,770 Dr. Leo Murillo: track team. That's what I like. But then by 1972, 397 00:21:43,950 --> 00:21:49,649 Dr. Leo Murillo: after my graduation in 1972, I was watching the Olympics 398 00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:54,510 Dr. Leo Murillo: from Munich. I was watching my favorite events, the 5000 399 00:21:54,510 --> 00:21:59,609 Dr. Leo Murillo: meters, Steve Prefontaine and all of that and the whole thing. Then 400 00:22:00,390 --> 00:22:03,690 Dr. Leo Murillo: on the day of the marathon, you could never forget 401 00:22:03,690 --> 00:22:08,369 Dr. Leo Murillo: that experience of seeing an American runner, Frank Shorter, going 402 00:22:08,369 --> 00:22:13,530 Dr. Leo Murillo: into the stadium and winning the marathon race. That was 403 00:22:14,790 --> 00:22:22,650 Dr. Leo Murillo: incredibly revolutionary for me to see that American runner could 404 00:22:22,650 --> 00:22:28,680 Dr. Leo Murillo: win this race. Especially since the 1960s, the African nations 405 00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:32,910 Dr. Leo Murillo: began to dominate running. With Abebe Bikila, the whole thing. 406 00:22:34,890 --> 00:22:40,020 Dr. Leo Murillo: But here you have an American runner, Frank Shorter winning 407 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:45,150 Dr. Leo Murillo: the Olympic marathon. That was amazing. It had tremendous impact 408 00:22:45,150 --> 00:22:51,960 Dr. Leo Murillo: on me and I guess on society at large. But 409 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,070 Dr. Leo Murillo: I still was not really sold on the idea that 410 00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:58,710 Dr. Leo Murillo: I wanted to become or run a marathon. That was 411 00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:04,320 Dr. Leo Murillo: not very... That's too long. 26 miles, 42 kilometers. That's 412 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:10,530 Dr. Leo Murillo: crazy. That's nuts. So the next year, I was in 413 00:23:10,770 --> 00:23:15,720 Dr. Leo Murillo: Fordham University. I was a student, my alma mater, Fordham University, and 414 00:23:15,780 --> 00:23:19,440 Dr. Leo Murillo: I asked my coach that maybe I was thinking of 415 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,710 Dr. Leo Murillo: running the marathon because I know the New York City 416 00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:27,869 Dr. Leo Murillo: Marathon was taking place every year since 1970. He said, " 417 00:23:27,869 --> 00:23:31,560 Dr. Leo Murillo: No, wait, you cannot run the marathon. That's only for 418 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,440 Dr. Leo Murillo: all people that... You got to be (inaudible) . That kind 419 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:40,980 Dr. Leo Murillo: of a thing. Nobody does that anymore anyway." So I say, " 420 00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:45,990 Dr. Leo Murillo: Okay." And then by 1974, I decided without telling him 421 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,419 Dr. Leo Murillo: that I was going to do it. I remember I 422 00:23:51,420 --> 00:23:53,310 Dr. Leo Murillo: went with a couple of friends of mine. We went 423 00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:55,949 Dr. Leo Murillo: to buy tickets at Madison Square Garden to get tickets 424 00:23:55,950 --> 00:23:58,918 Dr. Leo Murillo: from Led Zeppelin, my favorite all- time rock group. 425 00:23:59,310 --> 00:24:00,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: Nice. Yeah. 426 00:24:00,180 --> 00:24:04,830 Dr. Leo Murillo: And after that we went to the New York Road 427 00:24:04,830 --> 00:24:09,720 Dr. Leo Murillo: Runners Club office, which was located at the 60th Street at 428 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,220 Dr. Leo Murillo: the Y, I think it is, the YMCA. I went up 429 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:19,950 Dr. Leo Murillo: to the seventh floor and I walk into this small, 430 00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:24,270 Dr. Leo Murillo: dungy office, no bigger than my studio here, and a couple 431 00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:27,389 Dr. Leo Murillo: of desks. There were two gentlemen right there taking the 432 00:24:27,390 --> 00:24:31,619 Dr. Leo Murillo: entries. I paid my entry free and I decided to 433 00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:34,260 Dr. Leo Murillo: do the New York City Marathon. 434 00:24:34,260 --> 00:24:38,760 Rob Simmelkjaer: You just walked up and they took your fee and 435 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,180 Rob Simmelkjaer: you're in? 436 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,989 Dr. Leo Murillo: That's right. That's right. You were not working then Rob or else 437 00:24:42,990 --> 00:24:50,730 Dr. Leo Murillo: it will be easier for me now. I think it 438 00:24:50,730 --> 00:24:58,139 Dr. Leo Murillo: was about $10 or $ 15, the entry fee, $ 15. And at that race, 439 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,330 Dr. Leo Murillo: the race was sponsored by Olympic Airlines. Olympic Airlines was 440 00:25:03,330 --> 00:25:08,850 Dr. Leo Murillo: owned by Onassis who was married already. 441 00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:10,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, Greek. Greek airline. 442 00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:14,760 Dr. Leo Murillo: That's right, that's right. To Jacqueline Kennedy. Remember that they 443 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:21,510 Dr. Leo Murillo: married. Olympic Airlines was the one sponsoring the event. Anyway, 444 00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:25,560 Dr. Leo Murillo: so I remember they gave me a T- shirt, they 445 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,840 Dr. Leo Murillo: gave me a number, the whole thing, and then I 446 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,189 Dr. Leo Murillo: appear on the date of the event. And that was 447 00:25:32,190 --> 00:25:36,030 Dr. Leo Murillo: the beginning of the race. And at that time, the 448 00:25:36,030 --> 00:25:40,530 Dr. Leo Murillo: race took place in Central Park, one small loop, the 1. 449 00:25:40,530 --> 00:25:43,949 Dr. Leo Murillo: 79 loop, and then four loops around the entire park. 450 00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:48,450 Dr. Leo Murillo: We began by across the Tavern On the Green, Tavern 451 00:25:48,450 --> 00:25:55,410 Dr. Leo Murillo: On the Green, and that was the beginning of the race. The starter of the race was 452 00:25:55,500 --> 00:26:01,290 Dr. Leo Murillo: your founder, Ted Corbitt, which by the way, he was 453 00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:07,439 Dr. Leo Murillo: still very much running in races, things like that. Because 454 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:14,790 Dr. Leo Murillo: in 1973, once in Fordham University, after the season ended 455 00:26:14,970 --> 00:26:18,990 Dr. Leo Murillo: the cross- country season and the track season, I wanted to 456 00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:24,270 Dr. Leo Murillo: train for longer distances. The New York Road Runners Club 457 00:26:24,270 --> 00:26:28,080 Dr. Leo Murillo: used to have races in Central Park every Sunday, like 458 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,070 Dr. Leo Murillo: about 8: 00 or 10:00 in the morning. They used to have at the 9th Street 459 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:39,419 Dr. Leo Murillo: Eastside Maintenance House, they will come in and they will have people from the New 460 00:26:39,420 --> 00:26:44,250 Dr. Leo Murillo: York Road Runners Club taking your fee to do the races on 461 00:26:44,250 --> 00:26:49,920 Dr. Leo Murillo: Sundays. They used to be called the Winter Serious Races. 462 00:26:52,109 --> 00:26:54,869 Dr. Leo Murillo: One Sunday was six miler, another Sunday was 10 miles, 463 00:26:54,869 --> 00:26:58,679 Dr. Leo Murillo: another Sunday was the 12 milers, another Sunday was 15 milers, 464 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,950 Dr. Leo Murillo: things like that. That was very good training for me because I 465 00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:08,490 Dr. Leo Murillo: never did this before. Ted Corbitt was personally, most of 466 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,330 Dr. Leo Murillo: these events, still running very well. 467 00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:12,688 Rob Simmelkjaer: Incredible. 468 00:27:16,648 --> 00:27:20,700 Dr. Leo Murillo: That was my entry into the New York Road Runners Club. 469 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:21,930 Becs Gentry: Oh, wow. 470 00:27:22,859 --> 00:27:28,170 Rob Simmelkjaer: Leo, I went and I looked up your results on 471 00:27:28,170 --> 00:27:32,730 Rob Simmelkjaer: our website and at the marathon distance. You ran that 472 00:27:32,730 --> 00:27:35,911 Rob Simmelkjaer: race in 1974. You remember your time, right? Your close. 473 00:27:35,911 --> 00:27:41,340 Dr. Leo Murillo: It was about 3: 17, something like that, I think it was. 3: 37, I think it was. 3:37. 474 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:47,459 Rob Simmelkjaer: 3:37. Exactly. It's 3: 37, which is great for your 475 00:27:47,460 --> 00:27:50,190 Rob Simmelkjaer: first marathon especially. And then you came back and did 476 00:27:50,190 --> 00:27:54,300 Rob Simmelkjaer: it again three years later and 3: 04, by the 477 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:57,359 Rob Simmelkjaer: way. So big improvement three years later. And of course, 478 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,899 Rob Simmelkjaer: that was the second year of the Five Borough marathon. 479 00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:02,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: So very different experience. 480 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,530 Dr. Leo Murillo: That's right. Exactly. Exactly. As I related in my letter 481 00:28:07,530 --> 00:28:13,350 Dr. Leo Murillo: to you, the experience on the 1974 New York City 482 00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:18,300 Dr. Leo Murillo: Marathon was way different from the 1976 marathon. People were still 483 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:25,920 Dr. Leo Murillo: walking on Central Park, strollers... They didn't have water stations 484 00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:28,530 Dr. Leo Murillo: where people would give you cups to drink water. You 485 00:28:28,530 --> 00:28:31,800 Dr. Leo Murillo: have to go stop, serve yourself the water, and continue 486 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,770 Dr. Leo Murillo: running, things like that. It was very hot. It was a very, 487 00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:37,590 Dr. Leo Murillo: very hot day. Very hot day. One of the hottest. It was 488 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:40,890 Dr. Leo Murillo: like almost 85 degrees. It was incredibly, incredibly hot. 489 00:28:41,550 --> 00:28:44,070 Rob Simmelkjaer: It was in September back then, so it was still 490 00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:46,380 Rob Simmelkjaer: pretty warm. September 29th was the date. Yep? 491 00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:49,890 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Exactly. I think that that's one 492 00:28:49,890 --> 00:28:52,920 Dr. Leo Murillo: of the reasons why they decided in New York Road Runners 493 00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:57,870 Dr. Leo Murillo: to put it more later during that year like in 494 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:05,700 Dr. Leo Murillo: October or November, because better weather. Yeah, it was a very 495 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:10,020 Dr. Leo Murillo: difficult experience for me because just by the first loop, 496 00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:14,340 Dr. Leo Murillo: I wanted to stop this. I'm not going to continue doing this anymore. What 497 00:29:14,340 --> 00:29:17,910 Dr. Leo Murillo: am I doing here? It was a death march. 498 00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:21,360 Rob Simmelkjaer: Four times up Harlem Hill on a hot day. 499 00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:28,080 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right. It was just amazing. But eventually, I 500 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,670 Dr. Leo Murillo: finished. When I finished, there was a lady there and 501 00:29:32,670 --> 00:29:36,300 Dr. Leo Murillo: I know a gentleman, there were not many people I finished like there is 502 00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:41,160 Dr. Leo Murillo: right now. I asked for my time and they told 503 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,530 Dr. Leo Murillo: me, and I thought they were going to give me a medal. 504 00:29:43,530 --> 00:29:50,010 Dr. Leo Murillo: A medal... " No. No medals. Okay, we'll send you a 505 00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:54,630 Dr. Leo Murillo: certificate with your time." Fifty years later, I haven't received 506 00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:54,990 Dr. Leo Murillo: it yet. 507 00:29:54,990 --> 00:29:55,050 Becs Gentry: Wow. 508 00:29:57,030 --> 00:29:57,031 Rob Simmelkjaer: What? 509 00:29:57,031 --> 00:29:57,451 Becs Gentry: Oh my goodness. 510 00:29:59,190 --> 00:30:02,790 Dr. Leo Murillo: I haven't received it yet. So that was it. 511 00:30:02,790 --> 00:30:04,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: We'll see what we can do about that. We'll see 512 00:30:04,770 --> 00:30:04,861 Rob Simmelkjaer: what we can do about that. 513 00:30:04,861 --> 00:30:04,862 Dr. Leo Murillo: Okay. Thank you. Thank you. 514 00:30:04,862 --> 00:30:12,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: Before I let Becs in, I have to cut ahead then to earlier this year, Leo, 515 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,810 Rob Simmelkjaer: you sitting down, I know you applied I think for 516 00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:19,260 Rob Simmelkjaer: the drawing and didn't get into the drawing. So you knew- 517 00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:23,100 Dr. Leo Murillo: I first applied about one or two times and no go, 518 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,140 Dr. Leo Murillo: no go. So then I applied for the drawing and 519 00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:33,180 Dr. Leo Murillo: then no go. Then I applied for the lottery, nothing. 520 00:30:33,690 --> 00:30:37,470 Dr. Leo Murillo: And the more money you put in, the better. So I gave a good size amount of money. 521 00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:38,911 Rob Simmelkjaer: The sweepstakes. Yeah, our sweepstakes. 522 00:30:38,911 --> 00:30:41,340 Dr. Leo Murillo: That's right. That's right. The sweepstakes. 523 00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:43,111 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yes. We appreciate that. Thank you for donating. 524 00:30:43,111 --> 00:30:50,460 Dr. Leo Murillo: That's right. At that point I said to myself, " Never, ever, ever 525 00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:54,540 Dr. Leo Murillo: give up," and that's why... Okay, let me find out, 526 00:30:54,540 --> 00:30:57,690 Dr. Leo Murillo: instead of just talking to anyone at the New York, let 527 00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:00,990 Dr. Leo Murillo: me go to the big honcho, to the important head 528 00:31:00,990 --> 00:31:07,080 Dr. Leo Murillo: of the corporation and do a plea. Eventually, I sent 529 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,570 Dr. Leo Murillo: you the letter and eventually, you came back. And that 530 00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:17,640 Dr. Leo Murillo: was very meaningful. I'm very appreciative for that. 531 00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:23,940 Becs Gentry: Wow. I can't imagine the changes that you've seen, not 532 00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:27,720 Becs Gentry: just in New York Road Runners in the race, but 533 00:31:27,810 --> 00:31:31,740 Becs Gentry: in the world of running. But before we get into 534 00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:35,250 Becs Gentry: that, I want to talk to you and I'll just ask you 535 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:42,210 Becs Gentry: how your multidiscipline approach to running over your career has 536 00:31:42,270 --> 00:31:46,080 Becs Gentry: shaped your strength. Because you said when you were younger, 537 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,760 Becs Gentry: it was a long distance. The 5000, the 5K was 538 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,710 Becs Gentry: your race that you like to watch, your steeplechase is, 539 00:31:55,950 --> 00:32:00,180 Becs Gentry: and was, your forte. So how have all of these 540 00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:05,160 Becs Gentry: different disciplines of running shaped your career as a runner, 541 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:05,880 Becs Gentry: do you think? 542 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:13,200 Dr. Leo Murillo: Well, I think that my life story... I came to 543 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:19,830 Dr. Leo Murillo: this country in 1968 with my mother. We came with $ 544 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,710 Dr. Leo Murillo: 25 and two suitcases. We did not know anybody. We 545 00:32:25,710 --> 00:32:28,950 Dr. Leo Murillo: did not know anybody. We did not speak the English 546 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:34,230 Dr. Leo Murillo: language. We came here to find an opportunity for me and 547 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:40,860 Dr. Leo Murillo: my mother. Those experiences of your life struggles, trying to 548 00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:43,320 Dr. Leo Murillo: make it, trying to survive, and so on and so 549 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,790 Dr. Leo Murillo: on, they make you stronger. Running in a sense is 550 00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:58,710 Dr. Leo Murillo: an explication, duplication of my life story. You should never, 551 00:32:58,770 --> 00:33:02,400 Dr. Leo Murillo: ever give up. Always give your best, go try hard. 552 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,950 Dr. Leo Murillo: Even if you fail, it doesn't matter. Get up and continue 553 00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:08,459 Dr. Leo Murillo: going. And that's how I applied my life story, my 554 00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:15,060 Dr. Leo Murillo: experiences with living in this country to my running. That's 555 00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:19,830 Dr. Leo Murillo: what it is. That's what it is. I always maintain my 556 00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:23,370 Dr. Leo Murillo: consistency, my belief that I can do it, that nothing 557 00:33:23,370 --> 00:33:26,430 Dr. Leo Murillo: will stop me and that I will never stop. 558 00:33:27,810 --> 00:33:30,840 Becs Gentry: Wow. And you can see that. The disciplines you've chosen, 559 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,570 Becs Gentry: the steeplechase and the marathon specifically are very arduous. You really- 560 00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:36,930 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah, that's right. That's right. 561 00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:39,840 Becs Gentry: You cannot give up because if you give up, you 562 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,760 Becs Gentry: don't achieve. You don't finish those races. It doesn't matter 563 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,650 Becs Gentry: what time you finish in, you just don't finish them 564 00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:47,160 Becs Gentry: if you give up. 565 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,801 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah, that's right. That's right. 566 00:33:49,801 --> 00:33:49,981 Becs Gentry: It's amazing. 567 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:54,720 Dr. Leo Murillo: When Frank Shorter came into that stadium and he won 568 00:33:54,720 --> 00:34:00,420 Dr. Leo Murillo: that medal, that totally changed the whole collective psychological makeup 569 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,570 Dr. Leo Murillo: of society and how they view sports, what he did 570 00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:09,660 Dr. Leo Murillo: accomplish in winning the marathon, and what it says to 571 00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:14,940 Dr. Leo Murillo: society, that if you work hard enough and you do 572 00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:18,270 Dr. Leo Murillo: your best, there's so many things you could do. You 573 00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:26,279 Dr. Leo Murillo: could succeed. That's why I think that the winning by 574 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:32,489 Dr. Leo Murillo: Frank Shorter really revolutionized society in general. It revived the 575 00:34:33,630 --> 00:34:38,520 Dr. Leo Murillo: American idea of hard work, determination, don't ever give up, 576 00:34:39,090 --> 00:34:44,520 Dr. Leo Murillo: opportunity. And that's what it was. I always follow that 577 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,020 Dr. Leo Murillo: rule. If you have a will, there's always a way 578 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:51,630 Dr. Leo Murillo: and there's always a way to succeed. Even if you 579 00:34:51,630 --> 00:34:56,610 Dr. Leo Murillo: fail, doesn't matter. You try, you give your best. It's 580 00:34:56,610 --> 00:34:58,291 Dr. Leo Murillo: like the Rocky movie. Rocky, right. 581 00:34:58,290 --> 00:34:58,530 Becs Gentry: It is. 582 00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:04,710 Dr. Leo Murillo: It was not that he was going to win or he 583 00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:06,569 Dr. Leo Murillo: was going to lose. He got a shot. 584 00:35:07,770 --> 00:35:09,180 Becs Gentry: Yeah. He had a shot. 585 00:35:10,530 --> 00:35:12,719 Dr. Leo Murillo: He had a shot and he was going to take it no matter what happens. No 586 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,140 Dr. Leo Murillo: matter what. He was going to take it. 587 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,610 Becs Gentry: Absolutely agree. I say that to my runners when I 588 00:35:17,610 --> 00:35:21,120 Becs Gentry: coach them. I have an acronym for fail. It doesn't 589 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:25,680 Becs Gentry: mean the word. It's an acronym. First attempt in learning. 590 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:25,890 Dr. Leo Murillo: That's right. 591 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:30,570 Becs Gentry: And you come back and you come back and you look 592 00:35:30,570 --> 00:35:34,530 Becs Gentry: at what caused you to not achieve what you wanted 593 00:35:34,770 --> 00:35:38,010 Becs Gentry: at that time, and you learn from it and you 594 00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:40,469 Becs Gentry: try again. And you can have a second first attempt 595 00:35:40,469 --> 00:35:41,581 Becs Gentry: in learning and a third and a 10th. 596 00:35:41,580 --> 00:35:48,450 Dr. Leo Murillo: Exactly. Exactly. Exactly, exactly. And through pain and through suffering, 597 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,460 Dr. Leo Murillo: we will find glory. 598 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:59,550 Rob Simmelkjaer: Indeed. Leo, your journey in life is interesting as well. 599 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:04,620 Rob Simmelkjaer: Incredible coming to the country as so many have done 600 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,460 Rob Simmelkjaer: over the generations with so little. And now you are 601 00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:12,450 Rob Simmelkjaer: a PhD. You are a professor, I believe, at Fordham 602 00:36:12,450 --> 00:36:15,930 Rob Simmelkjaer: University of Psychology as well. What has the role of 603 00:36:15,930 --> 00:36:20,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: running been for you throughout all these years in New 604 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,129 Rob Simmelkjaer: York staying a member, by the way of New York 605 00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:27,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: Road runners as well throughout this? How has running played 606 00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:30,690 Rob Simmelkjaer: a role in guiding you to the success you've had 607 00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:32,520 Rob Simmelkjaer: in life outside of running? 608 00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:39,930 Dr. Leo Murillo: Every morning... I run twice a day. I run in the 609 00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:42,660 Dr. Leo Murillo: morning and then at night, twice a day. For years, 610 00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:48,570 Dr. Leo Murillo: I've been doing this. I cannot function in my work 611 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,620 Dr. Leo Murillo: or in my everyday activity without having my first run 612 00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:55,170 Dr. Leo Murillo: in the morning. I got to do it. I have 613 00:36:55,170 --> 00:36:56,850 Dr. Leo Murillo: to do it no matter what. I got to be 614 00:36:56,850 --> 00:37:00,690 Dr. Leo Murillo: out there. And when you run, for me, I'm talking 615 00:37:00,690 --> 00:37:07,739 Dr. Leo Murillo: about for myself, it has a spiritual, physical, cleansing effect 616 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,060 Dr. Leo Murillo: in my spirit and in my mind, my psychology and in 617 00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:18,660 Dr. Leo Murillo: my relationship with the world, with others and what I 618 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:23,940 Dr. Leo Murillo: do. Every day is a cleansing effect when I do my 619 00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:31,170 Dr. Leo Murillo: running activity. And it's very spiritual moments, very spiritual for 620 00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:34,860 Dr. Leo Murillo: me. I have become more like a humanistic runner. 621 00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:35,130 Becs Gentry: Love it. 622 00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:39,510 Dr. Leo Murillo: So that's what it means to me. 623 00:37:41,250 --> 00:37:44,400 Becs Gentry: I know this isn't lore. I'll say a quick, do 624 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,400 Becs Gentry: not copy what Dr. Leo does everybody, because that is 625 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,280 Becs Gentry: his and it works for him. But out of interest 626 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,000 Becs Gentry: and intrigue, how far do you run, Dr. Leo, on 627 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,900 Becs Gentry: both of those runs? 628 00:37:55,290 --> 00:37:59,700 Dr. Leo Murillo: Usually, the first morning, morning is about six to seven 629 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:02,850 Dr. Leo Murillo: miles. And then at night, another six to seven miles. 630 00:38:03,420 --> 00:38:07,260 Dr. Leo Murillo: That's the scale. I average about 70 miles a week, 75 631 00:38:07,290 --> 00:38:07,920 Dr. Leo Murillo: miles a week. 632 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wow. 633 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:08,879 Becs Gentry: Wonderful. 634 00:38:08,879 --> 00:38:13,050 Rob Simmelkjaer: You've got a great base, Leo, to build off of. 635 00:38:13,710 --> 00:38:17,700 Rob Simmelkjaer: I think I called you, it was mid- July when 636 00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:19,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: I called you something like that, mid to late July. 637 00:38:19,830 --> 00:38:22,319 Rob Simmelkjaer: So you still had a good 12 weeks or so. You 638 00:38:22,469 --> 00:38:24,779 Rob Simmelkjaer: still have some time. So you started with a great 639 00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:26,611 Rob Simmelkjaer: base. How is the training going? 640 00:38:26,611 --> 00:38:34,440 Dr. Leo Murillo: The training is going fine. Usually, at this stage in my running career 641 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,640 Dr. Leo Murillo: and as you get older, it's the psychological aspect of 642 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,250 Dr. Leo Murillo: it. It's not much the physical aspect to it. The 643 00:38:41,250 --> 00:38:43,739 Dr. Leo Murillo: body can handle a lot of things. The body can handle... But it's 644 00:38:44,430 --> 00:38:47,489 Dr. Leo Murillo: the psychological aspect about it. You don't want to do things that 645 00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:50,310 Dr. Leo Murillo: you should be doing more, that kind of a thing. 646 00:38:51,690 --> 00:38:55,290 Dr. Leo Murillo: I'm in this stage of relearning again how to run 647 00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:58,560 Dr. Leo Murillo: for three, four hours continuously without stopping and all that 648 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,310 Dr. Leo Murillo: kind of a thing. It's not an easy task to 649 00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:05,250 Dr. Leo Murillo: do that. The last time I remember running three hours 650 00:39:05,250 --> 00:39:08,370 Dr. Leo Murillo: straight, four hours straight was about 35 years ago, 40 years ago. 651 00:39:08,370 --> 00:39:08,759 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wow. 652 00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:12,031 Becs Gentry: Oh my goodness. 653 00:39:12,031 --> 00:39:15,270 Dr. Leo Murillo: Usually, I run a daily average about two and a 654 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:18,510 Dr. Leo Murillo: half hours a day, two hours, an hour and a 655 00:39:18,510 --> 00:39:22,410 Dr. Leo Murillo: half in the morning, an hour and a half in the afternoon, an hour here. But 656 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,160 Dr. Leo Murillo: four hours straight, three hours straight, my God, that's a 657 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,110 Dr. Leo Murillo: whole different ballgame. So it's a psychological retraining again that 658 00:39:31,110 --> 00:39:31,740 Dr. Leo Murillo: you go through. 659 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,250 Becs Gentry: It is. I'm sure there's going to be plenty of people 660 00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:38,910 Becs Gentry: along the course who will be happy to have a 661 00:39:38,910 --> 00:39:40,710 Becs Gentry: sit down with you if you wanted to take a 662 00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:44,969 Becs Gentry: stop and have a chat and then restart. 663 00:39:45,570 --> 00:39:50,460 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah, that's right. That's right. I hope... I think that there's 664 00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:52,980 Dr. Leo Murillo: a time limit by the time you finish the marathon, right? 665 00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:54,989 Dr. Leo Murillo: About six hours or five and a half hours? 666 00:39:55,230 --> 00:39:58,320 Becs Gentry: No. Actually, the TCS New York City Marathon has one 667 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,410 Becs Gentry: of the longest and most wonderful timeframes I believe. Rob 668 00:40:04,410 --> 00:40:09,330 Becs Gentry: will correct me here and make it official, but from 669 00:40:09,330 --> 00:40:12,810 Becs Gentry: my opinion, New York is one of the friendliest marathons 670 00:40:12,810 --> 00:40:16,500 Becs Gentry: for that because we keep cheering until well around the 671 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:17,610 Becs Gentry: midnight mark. 672 00:40:20,610 --> 00:40:20,611 Dr. Leo Murillo: Oh, good. 673 00:40:20,611 --> 00:40:20,612 Rob Simmelkjaer: 10:00 PM is the last official. 674 00:40:20,611 --> 00:40:20,613 Becs Gentry: 10:00 PM. 675 00:40:20,612 --> 00:40:20,613 Rob Simmelkjaer: 10:00 PM is the last official- 676 00:40:20,613 --> 00:40:21,031 Dr. Leo Murillo: Okay, good. I don't have to worry about- 677 00:40:21,031 --> 00:40:25,739 Rob Simmelkjaer: Leo, I'm not worried about you. I'm not worried about 678 00:40:25,739 --> 00:40:27,569 Rob Simmelkjaer: you. You're going to be just fine. 679 00:40:27,870 --> 00:40:28,980 Becs Gentry: You could walk. You could walk it. You'll be fine. 680 00:40:29,759 --> 00:40:31,950 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah, yeah. That's right. That's right, that's right. And by the 681 00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:35,820 Dr. Leo Murillo: way, did I send you Rob a picture of the shoes that I 682 00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:36,600 Dr. Leo Murillo: wore in that race in 1974? 683 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,290 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yes. Yes. But remind the audience. Yeah, they're incredible. 684 00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:42,810 Dr. Leo Murillo: I still have them. I'm not going to wear them 685 00:40:42,810 --> 00:40:45,239 Dr. Leo Murillo: for this race, but I still have them. I still 686 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:45,570 Dr. Leo Murillo: have them. 687 00:40:45,570 --> 00:40:46,830 Rob Simmelkjaer: What were they? Who made them? 688 00:40:47,790 --> 00:40:51,239 Dr. Leo Murillo: It was Osaka. It was a Japanese company and they 689 00:40:53,489 --> 00:40:58,109 Dr. Leo Murillo: were very thin, not like the ones we have now. Very thin 690 00:40:59,580 --> 00:41:03,150 Dr. Leo Murillo: coating like this. I bought them at the back of the 691 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:07,440 Dr. Leo Murillo: truck of Gary Muhrcke's running truck. You know Gary Muhrcke? 692 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,410 Rob Simmelkjaer: Gary Muhrcke who was the first winner of the New 693 00:41:10,410 --> 00:41:11,549 Rob Simmelkjaer: York City Marathon. 694 00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:11,880 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah, first winner. 695 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,150 Rob Simmelkjaer: Absolutely. 696 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,650 Dr. Leo Murillo: That's right. After he left the fire department because of 697 00:41:16,650 --> 00:41:20,219 Dr. Leo Murillo: issues with his back, the whole thing, he became a full- 698 00:41:20,219 --> 00:41:22,950 Dr. Leo Murillo: time runner, and then he began to go into business 699 00:41:23,070 --> 00:41:28,110 Dr. Leo Murillo: selling running shoes. But one of the first ways that 700 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:31,770 Dr. Leo Murillo: he began to run his business was selling running shoes, 701 00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:36,390 Dr. Leo Murillo: competitive shoes, cross- country, track, and long distance shoes out 702 00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:40,350 Dr. Leo Murillo: of his truck. He will go to Van Cortlandt which 703 00:41:40,350 --> 00:41:44,070 Dr. Leo Murillo: by the way, this will be my 54- year running cross- 704 00:41:44,070 --> 00:41:46,920 Dr. Leo Murillo: country in Van Cortlandt Park, by the way. 705 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,239 Rob Simmelkjaer: Wow. Wow. 706 00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:54,989 Dr. Leo Murillo: I began running there in 1970. Anyway, so Gary Muhrcke 707 00:41:54,989 --> 00:41:59,070 Dr. Leo Murillo: will park his truck at the Van Cortlandt Park. Runners will go 708 00:41:59,070 --> 00:42:01,649 Dr. Leo Murillo: there to do the high school races, the college races. And 709 00:42:02,219 --> 00:42:04,469 Dr. Leo Murillo: I happened to see him and I say, " Gary, can 710 00:42:04,469 --> 00:42:09,480 Dr. Leo Murillo: you please send me some distance running shoes for distance running, road running?" 711 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,489 Dr. Leo Murillo: He said, " Yes, I have some shoes here that maybe 712 00:42:11,489 --> 00:42:13,110 Dr. Leo Murillo: you might be interested." So I bought them from him. 713 00:42:13,620 --> 00:42:15,480 Dr. Leo Murillo: And those are the shoes that I wore in the 714 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,900 Dr. Leo Murillo: 1974 New York City Marathon. 715 00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:20,880 Rob Simmelkjaer: People- 716 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:20,881 Becs Gentry: Wow. 717 00:42:20,881 --> 00:42:23,879 Rob Simmelkjaer: ... maybe I'll post a picture of him, because it's just 718 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,640 Rob Simmelkjaer: hard to believe things have changed that much when it 719 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,299 Rob Simmelkjaer: comes to technology and things like that. It's incredible. 720 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:41,609 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah, the shoes at that point, they were very, very thin base. At that time, it was Nike 721 00:42:41,969 --> 00:42:47,640 Dr. Leo Murillo: was resurging in selling running shoes. And the coach from 722 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,170 Dr. Leo Murillo: Oregon University, which I forgot his name, he invented the 723 00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:57,989 Dr. Leo Murillo: running shoe called the waffle. The waffle was... Because he 724 00:42:57,989 --> 00:43:04,350 Dr. Leo Murillo: took the planter of the shoe, made of plastic, and 725 00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:06,930 Dr. Leo Murillo: he put into a waffle machine, and he made it 726 00:43:06,930 --> 00:43:08,760 Dr. Leo Murillo: out of the running shoe. 727 00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:11,971 Becs Gentry: Mr. Bill Bowerman and his incredible wife's waffle running machine. 728 00:43:11,970 --> 00:43:15,780 Dr. Leo Murillo: And he sold those shoes for road races, for road running. 729 00:43:15,779 --> 00:43:15,930 Becs Gentry: He did. 730 00:43:16,860 --> 00:43:17,310 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah. 731 00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:20,880 Becs Gentry: Yep. And they still have versions. Bill Bowerman. 732 00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:24,930 Dr. Leo Murillo: Yeah. Bill Bowerman. That's right. Bill Bowerman. Great Bill Bowerman. 733 00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:30,480 Dr. Leo Murillo: Those are the shoes that I tried to get but Gary didn't have 734 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,930 Dr. Leo Murillo: them, so he sold me these other shoes. The Japanese 735 00:43:33,930 --> 00:43:38,160 Dr. Leo Murillo: companies were becoming very proficient in making running shoes. I 736 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,900 Dr. Leo Murillo: see Japanese are very, very good in marathon since that time. 737 00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:47,969 Rob Simmelkjaer: Leo, I'll ask you this for the last question. What 738 00:43:47,969 --> 00:43:51,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: has it meant for you to be a member of 739 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,800 Rob Simmelkjaer: New York Road Runners for this long? Why did you 740 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,870 Rob Simmelkjaer: keep the membership up and what has it meant for 741 00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:57,630 Rob Simmelkjaer: you to be affiliated with this organization this long? 742 00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:03,420 Dr. Leo Murillo: The organization... By the way, by joining the organization in those years, I 743 00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:06,930 Dr. Leo Murillo: got to meet very interesting people. I got to meet 744 00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:13,890 Dr. Leo Murillo: one gentleman that was extremely influential in the organization was 745 00:44:13,890 --> 00:44:22,020 Dr. Leo Murillo: Vince Chiappetta, who... He encouraged me to join the New 746 00:44:22,020 --> 00:44:24,630 Dr. Leo Murillo: York Road Runners Club and through him, I got to meet 747 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:28,739 Dr. Leo Murillo: very interesting people. The contributions of the New York Road 748 00:44:28,739 --> 00:44:33,810 Dr. Leo Murillo: Runners Club in the running community has been incredibly very 749 00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:37,680 Dr. Leo Murillo: helpful and very good. And for the development of running in the United 750 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,250 Dr. Leo Murillo: States, I think there's no other organization that has been 751 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,260 Dr. Leo Murillo: more proactive in the development of running in the United 752 00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:50,040 Dr. Leo Murillo: States road running than the New York Road Runners Club. The New 753 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:56,219 Dr. Leo Murillo: York Road Runners Club always been... They're the ones who were at the forefront, for 754 00:44:56,219 --> 00:45:04,830 Dr. Leo Murillo: example, saving the Van Cortlandt Park. During the 1980s, they 755 00:45:04,830 --> 00:45:07,589 Dr. Leo Murillo: wanted to get rid of Van Cortlandt Park. They wanted 756 00:45:07,590 --> 00:45:12,960 Dr. Leo Murillo: to put bike paths. Van Cortlandt Park is the mecca 757 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,330 Dr. Leo Murillo: of cross- country in the United States, in the world. 758 00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:19,770 Dr. Leo Murillo: And who was involved with that? The winner of the 759 00:45:19,770 --> 00:45:26,520 Dr. Leo Murillo: New York City Marathon in 1974, Dr. Sanders. We became teammates 760 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,819 Dr. Leo Murillo: because joined the Millrose Track Club after I graduated from 761 00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:32,790 Dr. Leo Murillo: Fordham, and I used to run with them and Dr. 762 00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:41,580 Dr. Leo Murillo: Sanders was in my team. Then also they have indoor races- 763 00:45:41,580 --> 00:45:41,641 Rob Simmelkjaer: The Armory. 764 00:45:41,641 --> 00:45:43,830 Dr. Leo Murillo: ... where they have... The Armory. The Armory. 765 00:45:45,630 --> 00:45:48,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: The Armory uptown. 766 00:45:50,460 --> 00:45:54,450 Dr. Leo Murillo: During the 1980s as well, they were turning the Armory 767 00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:58,110 Dr. Leo Murillo: into a homeless shelter and you could go to have 768 00:45:58,110 --> 00:46:00,840 Dr. Leo Murillo: races there and they have homeless people in the middle 769 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,120 Dr. Leo Murillo: of the track meanwhile, you were running a race around. 770 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,239 Becs Gentry: Oh, wow. 771 00:46:05,250 --> 00:46:07,650 Dr. Leo Murillo: The mayor decided that they were going to close it 772 00:46:07,650 --> 00:46:10,230 Dr. Leo Murillo: down and turn it into a homeless shelter. But who 773 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:13,589 Dr. Leo Murillo: came into the rescue? The New York Road Runners Club 774 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,950 Dr. Leo Murillo: and Dr. Sanders. They came in and they saved the 775 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,700 Dr. Leo Murillo: Armory. The New York World Runners Club always has been a 776 00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:25,920 Dr. Leo Murillo: very, very good organization for the running community, for running, 777 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,029 Dr. Leo Murillo: etc., etc. Not just known in the United States, but 778 00:46:30,030 --> 00:46:37,020 Dr. Leo Murillo: around the world. When I travel... I live in Europe and in Africa for many 779 00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:41,880 Dr. Leo Murillo: years and people would tell me, " Oh, I would like 780 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,050 Dr. Leo Murillo: to run in the New York City Marathon and the New York Road Runners Club." " Oh, yes, 781 00:46:46,050 --> 00:46:48,930 Dr. Leo Murillo: we know about the New York Runners Club. Everybody knows 782 00:46:48,930 --> 00:46:56,040 Dr. Leo Murillo: the New York Road Runners Club." The job that all of you 783 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,850 Dr. Leo Murillo: has been incredible, and the contribution that you have made to the 784 00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:05,790 Dr. Leo Murillo: community at large has been monumental. And I really... My 785 00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:09,419 Dr. Leo Murillo: kudos to you and to everyone in the New York Road Runners Club 786 00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:10,710 Dr. Leo Murillo: for such a good job. 787 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,400 Rob Simmelkjaer: Well, thank you so much, Leo, and on behalf of 788 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,560 Rob Simmelkjaer: everybody at New York Road Runners- 789 00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:21,359 Dr. Leo Murillo: I hope I didn't bore you with all of this. 790 00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:21,391 Rob Simmelkjaer: Oh, we love it. 791 00:47:21,390 --> 00:47:21,450 Becs Gentry: No way. 792 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: I absolutely love it. It's exactly- 793 00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:25,140 Becs Gentry: We can keep talking. 794 00:47:25,140 --> 00:47:30,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: Yeah, this is it. It's member week and you are incredible story 795 00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:32,820 Rob Simmelkjaer: as a member. This is exactly the kind of thing 796 00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:35,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: that we wanted to talk about with you. And it's 797 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:38,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: amazing. We could do it all day, but we're going 798 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,750 Rob Simmelkjaer: to let you go. But I first want to thank 799 00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:43,770 Rob Simmelkjaer: you for being a member for five plus decades and 800 00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: along with everybody at Road Runners, wish you all the 801 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,330 Rob Simmelkjaer: best in your training. And then you know I'm going 802 00:47:48,330 --> 00:47:51,509 Rob Simmelkjaer: to be coming out looking for you marathon weekend. Right? 803 00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:53,759 Rob Simmelkjaer: I'll be tracking you on the app. I'm going to 804 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: be looking for you, Leo. So you and I will see 805 00:47:56,670 --> 00:47:57,959 Rob Simmelkjaer: each other in person that week. 806 00:47:58,410 --> 00:48:05,520 Dr. Leo Murillo: Rob and Becs, what you did to me, and accepted to do this 807 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:11,489 Dr. Leo Murillo: run, I cannot express it in words to tell you 808 00:48:11,610 --> 00:48:14,430 Dr. Leo Murillo: how much I really thank you for this, my appreciation 809 00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:18,630 Dr. Leo Murillo: for you giving me this opportunity the day that I 810 00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:21,420 Dr. Leo Murillo: came into this country, this opportunity to do this. So 811 00:48:22,410 --> 00:48:24,600 Dr. Leo Murillo: thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, Becs. 812 00:48:24,930 --> 00:48:25,620 Dr. Leo Murillo: Thank you, Rob. 813 00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:29,070 Becs Gentry: Thank you. 814 00:48:29,250 --> 00:48:29,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: Thank you, Leo. 815 00:48:29,610 --> 00:48:31,741 Becs Gentry: Best of luck with your training. 816 00:48:31,741 --> 00:48:31,831 Dr. Leo Murillo: Thank you. Thank you. 817 00:48:43,500 --> 00:48:45,989 Rob Simmelkjaer: And now with just over 12 weeks to go until 818 00:48:45,989 --> 00:48:49,110 Rob Simmelkjaer: this year's TCS New York City Marathon, here's Meb with 819 00:48:49,110 --> 00:48:50,850 Rob Simmelkjaer: his training tip of the week. 820 00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:55,050 Meb Keflezighi: Week five. Extend your long run. I still remember my 821 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,100 Meb Keflezighi: first long run and how they gradually increase in distance. 822 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,700 Meb Keflezighi: Pushing the distance helps me build the endurance needed for 823 00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:07,170 Meb Keflezighi: my marathon day. Extend your long runs progressively and your 824 00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:11,940 Meb Keflezighi: body will adapt and grow stronger. Long runs are important. 825 00:49:12,030 --> 00:49:15,060 Meb Keflezighi: Sometimes, it might be six and it becomes eight. It 826 00:49:15,060 --> 00:49:18,480 Meb Keflezighi: becomes 10, becomes 12. Those are the gradual confidence that 827 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,000 Meb Keflezighi: you gain from your long run. It might not seem 828 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,900 Meb Keflezighi: long but when you go 16, 18 to 20 miles, they 829 00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:28,200 Meb Keflezighi: become essential. So week five, make sure you're extending your 830 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,609 Meb Keflezighi: long runs. Slowly but surely, big day on marathon day 831 00:49:32,610 --> 00:49:34,350 Meb Keflezighi: on November, you're going to be ready. 832 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,660 Rob Simmelkjaer: All right. Thank you very much, Meb. And we also 833 00:49:36,660 --> 00:49:39,000 Rob Simmelkjaer: want to take a moment now to congratulate three of 834 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,610 Rob Simmelkjaer: the latest runners to get into this year's TCS New 835 00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:45,060 Rob Simmelkjaer: York City Marathon that got in through our sweepstakes right 836 00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:49,650 Rob Simmelkjaer: here on Set the Pace. Ava Bertalan from Washington, Gabriella 837 00:49:49,650 --> 00:49:54,120 Rob Simmelkjaer: Corrado from Washington D. C., and Catherine Lee from Ohio, 838 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,350 Rob Simmelkjaer: all earned complimentary entries by answering our trivia questions and 839 00:49:58,350 --> 00:50:01,680 Rob Simmelkjaer: submitting their answers. Congratulations to all three of you, and 840 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,080 Rob Simmelkjaer: we will see you at the starting line in November. 841 00:50:04,469 --> 00:50:06,210 Rob Simmelkjaer: And that does it for another episode of Set the 842 00:50:06,210 --> 00:50:09,480 Rob Simmelkjaer: Pace. Thank you for this great conversation we had with 843 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,510 Rob Simmelkjaer: our guest today, Leo Murillo. That was so much fun. 844 00:50:12,750 --> 00:50:14,430 Rob Simmelkjaer: Can't wait to see him at the starting line on 845 00:50:14,430 --> 00:50:17,489 Rob Simmelkjaer: November 3rd. Remember, if you like this episode, please go 846 00:50:17,489 --> 00:50:20,250 Rob Simmelkjaer: ahead, subscribe, rate, leave a comment, send us a question, 847 00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:23,160 Rob Simmelkjaer: whatever platform you're listening on, we would love to hear 848 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,040 Rob Simmelkjaer: from you. And I hope you all have a great, 849 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: great week. If you're marathon training, keep your head down, 850 00:50:29,340 --> 00:50:32,130 Rob Simmelkjaer: don't give up as Leo said. Enjoy the miles. We'll 851 00:50:32,130 --> 00:50:32,670 Rob Simmelkjaer: see you next week.