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Athletes, on 0:00:39.210 --> 0:00:39.780 your mark. 0:00:41.909 --> 0:00:45.450 The first woman to finish for the second straight year 0:00:45.450 --> 0:00:49.080 here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman. A smiling 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.260 Miki Gorman, and why not? At 2:29: 30, the time for Grete Waitz. 0:00:52.260 --> 0:00:56.640 Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes to 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.450 the line. Pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA, he 0:01:00.660 --> 0:01:10.080 so proudly wears across his chest. A great day for Meb Keflezighi. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.309 Hello, everybody and welcome to Set the Pace, presented by 0:01:14.310 --> 0:01:18.119 Peloton. We are the official podcast of New York Road 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.339 Runners. I'm your host and the CEO of New York 0:01:20.340 --> 0:01:24.179 Road Runners, Rob Simmelkjaer, and with me as always, but 0:01:24.180 --> 0:01:28.800 not as always, in the same room, Becs Gentry. Hello, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.630 nice to see you in person. 0:01:30.750 --> 0:01:33.000 Hello, this is weird. I'm normally staring at you through 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:33.540 a screen. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.901 I know. This is so bananas to see you. You look great. 0:01:36.901 --> 0:01:36.902 Thank you. 0:01:36.902 --> 0:01:40.140 I'm glad to see you're doing well. And why are we 0:01:40.140 --> 0:01:42.540 in the same room? Because we are here this morning 0:01:42.810 --> 0:01:45.840 doing a special live episode of Set the Pace. We're 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.720 at the New York Road Runners Run Center, featuring the New 0:01:48.750 --> 0:01:52.680 Balance Run Hub, for this special live show. And we've 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.390 had a busy month of September. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:55.321 So busy. 0:01:55.321 --> 0:01:59.010 Do you know that we've actually done five episodes already, and we're doing 0:01:59.010 --> 0:02:01.290 seven in the month of September, so we're- 0:02:01.290 --> 0:02:02.040 That makes sense. 0:02:02.070 --> 0:02:02.251 We're working hard this month. 0:02:02.251 --> 0:02:07.050 Yeah, we have done a lot and they will be fantastic. 0:02:07.290 --> 0:02:09.690 Yes, it's a busy time. Obviously we had this special 0:02:09.690 --> 0:02:13.410 show for the Fifth Avenue Mile last week. That was 0:02:13.410 --> 0:02:16.950 incredible. So much more going on. And today is a 0:02:16.950 --> 0:02:20.760 really special show because we are talking about innovation and 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.310 we're going to team up, we are teaming up with 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:28.530 Fast Company, an amazing publication, magazine, digital publication. Anybody in 0:02:28.530 --> 0:02:31.560 business, I'm sure you read Fast Company out there. And 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:36.480 this is part of their 2024 Innovation Festival. And in 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.940 our live audience here, we've got a group of attendees 0:02:39.060 --> 0:02:41.430 who are in town for the event and we're thrilled to 0:02:41.430 --> 0:02:43.380 have you here. How about a round of applause from you guys 0:02:43.380 --> 0:02:43.650 out there? 0:02:43.650 --> 0:02:43.710 Yeah. 0:02:43.770 --> 0:02:47.490 Thanks so much for being here. It's great to have 0:02:47.490 --> 0:02:50.880 a live audience. And since the theme of all this 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.120 is innovation, we have a great guest coming up. A 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.450 special partner of New York Road Runners, Haley Price, who 0:02:57.450 --> 0:03:00.900 is the Head of Sports in North America for Tata 0:03:00.900 --> 0:03:05.280 Consultancy Services that puts the TCS in the TCS New 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.470 York City Marathon. Haley's going to join us in just 0:03:07.470 --> 0:03:10.109 a little bit to talk about all the amazing things 0:03:10.290 --> 0:03:13.739 we do when it comes to technology and the TCS 0:03:13.740 --> 0:03:15.780 New York City Marathon. So that's all coming up in 0:03:15.780 --> 0:03:18.090 just a minute. But before we get to Haley, Becs, I've 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.720 got to get an update on your training, how it's 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.570 all going for you. You continue, for those who don't 0:03:24.570 --> 0:03:29.430 know, Becs is doing this unbelievable thing called the Great 0:03:29.430 --> 0:03:29.731 World Race. 0:03:29.731 --> 0:03:29.732 There we go. 0:03:29.732 --> 0:03:32.820 I want to call it the Amazing Race, the old reality show. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:33.002 (inaudible) . 0:03:32.820 --> 0:03:37.110 It really is that. Seven marathons on seven continents in 0:03:37.110 --> 0:03:41.910 seven days, that she is doing in November. I constantly 0:03:41.910 --> 0:03:44.520 marvel that this is a thing humans can even do. 0:03:44.820 --> 0:03:48.510 But how is your training going? 200 miles a week? 0:03:48.510 --> 0:03:49.231 What are you doing? How's it going? 0:03:49.231 --> 0:03:52.170 Not quite, not quite. We're on about, I close out I 0:03:52.170 --> 0:03:55.890 think my fourth or fifth, 115 mile week. This one 0:03:55.890 --> 0:03:59.490 is going to be more like 125. This week was 0:03:59.970 --> 0:04:03.150 tough. It's already been tough, but it's fine because I 0:04:03.150 --> 0:04:05.400 had a lull in energy, which I think you can 0:04:05.790 --> 0:04:06.779 sympathize with. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:07.140 Yes. 0:04:07.230 --> 0:04:10.110 Real lull in energy. I'm going to put that down 0:04:10.110 --> 0:04:14.580 to the change in season, hormones, all sorts of things 0:04:14.580 --> 0:04:17.370 all at once that I was like, this sucks. It's 0:04:17.370 --> 0:04:21.570 dark, it's getting dark early, it's getting light late. All 0:04:21.570 --> 0:04:24.120 of the things that make you have seasonal mood swings. 0:04:25.020 --> 0:04:26.969 Add on to that, my coach being like, " Get out 0:04:26.970 --> 0:04:30.480 and run for three hours." I'm like every day, every 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.300 day is a long run you guys, but I'm weirdly 0:04:33.300 --> 0:04:37.440 liking it. I'm through the slump, I'm here and I 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.630 should have run here because that would've been way better 0:04:39.630 --> 0:04:43.529 for my sanity, but it's going. It's less than eight 0:04:43.529 --> 0:04:46.350 weeks. I mean, seven weeks today, I'll be off on 0:04:46.350 --> 0:04:49.650 my way to Cape Town to start it all. But 0:04:50.130 --> 0:04:54.180 before that, someone else is running their first marathon in 0:04:54.180 --> 0:04:56.099 a very, very, very long time. 0:04:56.460 --> 0:04:57.180 We're trying. 0:04:57.390 --> 0:04:58.890 Couple of weeks, less than two weeks out- 0:04:58.891 --> 0:04:58.892 We're trying. 0:04:58.892 --> 0:04:59.791 ... from this guy running Berlin Marathon, everybody. 0:04:59.791 --> 0:05:00.900 Less than two weeks from the BMW Berlin Marathon. 0:05:03.750 --> 0:05:05.130 Oh my gosh. 0:05:05.130 --> 0:05:06.000 I'm excited. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.860 (inaudible) . You're what, 20 miles this last weekend? 0:05:08.670 --> 0:05:12.570 I just had to run something that started with a 0:05:12.570 --> 0:05:16.020 two. As you know I had been training, I did 0:05:16.020 --> 0:05:18.539 an 18 and a half mile run, and then the 0:05:18.540 --> 0:05:22.020 very next day I got so sick and I was 0:05:22.020 --> 0:05:22.200 knocked out. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.520 It wasn't his buddy saying no. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.010 I don't know what was going on, a virus. I 0:05:26.010 --> 0:05:28.349 was knocked out for a week. I was in bed, 0:05:28.350 --> 0:05:31.140 I missed work, I was just out. And so coming 0:05:31.140 --> 0:05:33.300 back from that, I started to feel better, but I 0:05:33.300 --> 0:05:36.240 just had to get one 20- mile run in. It's like, yeah. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.460 We know what that feels like, right, guys? When you have to 0:05:38.460 --> 0:05:40.291 get your number in and tick that box to be like, I can do this. 0:05:40.291 --> 0:05:43.830 It's as mental as it is physical. 0:05:43.830 --> 0:05:44.010 It is. 0:05:44.010 --> 0:05:46.770 I just had to do it. So I did it all by 0:05:46.770 --> 0:05:51.659 myself, running around Westport, Connecticut and got it done. So 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.080 at least now I feel like, all right, I can 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.140 show up at the starting line feeling I can actually cover 0:05:58.140 --> 0:05:59.370 26.2 miles. 0:05:59.430 --> 0:05:59.940 Absolutely. 0:05:59.940 --> 0:06:00.510 In Berlin. 0:06:00.570 --> 0:06:03.240 Those last six suck anyway, so why put yourself through 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:04.050 it more than once? 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:04.650 Exactly, exactly. 0:06:05.220 --> 0:06:08.220 Says she, running it seven times. Is anyone in here else 0:06:08.220 --> 0:06:10.470 running Berlin? Sensible. 0:06:15.779 --> 0:06:15.779 Or New York, or anything else? 0:06:15.780 --> 0:06:15.781 New York, have we got anybody in the- 0:06:15.781 --> 0:06:15.782 Any body running a marathon this fall? 0:06:15.782 --> 0:06:15.783 Yay, yay. 0:06:15.783 --> 0:06:15.784 All right, we got a couple New York runners 0:06:15.784 --> 0:06:19.260 And any other races, marathons this fall? Oh, good. Okay, 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:20.430 oh, we can convince you then. 0:06:20.430 --> 0:06:24.390 You know what else we've got coming up this Sunday, 0:06:24.390 --> 0:06:28.260 is the New Balance Bronx 10- miler, which I'm super 0:06:28.260 --> 0:06:31.049 excited. Anybody running Bronx this weekend? All right, we got 0:06:31.050 --> 0:06:33.150 a few more running that. That's going to be my 0:06:33.450 --> 0:06:35.551 last longish run before Berlin. 0:06:35.551 --> 0:06:36.121 I know. 0:06:36.510 --> 0:06:38.670 I'm going to not go too crazy, but it is. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:40.740 People ask me what my favorite race is at New 0:06:40.740 --> 0:06:43.050 York Road Runners, and of course I put the marathon 0:06:43.050 --> 0:06:46.589 aside because that's its own thing. But when I put 0:06:46.589 --> 0:06:50.279 that aside, I actually do think the New Balance Bronx 10- miler- 0:06:50.370 --> 0:06:50.371 Really? 0:06:50.371 --> 0:06:54.450 ... may be my favorite race because it's an amazing course. 0:06:55.110 --> 0:06:55.500 Hey, Matt, sign me up. 0:06:55.500 --> 0:06:56.940 There is so much energy. 0:06:56.940 --> 0:06:57.539 Yeah, there is. 0:06:57.539 --> 0:07:00.150 The music on the course, it's a little hilly, I'm 0:07:00.150 --> 0:07:01.260 not going to lie, but it's newer. 0:07:01.260 --> 0:07:01.349 It is. 0:07:01.830 --> 0:07:05.549 And the after parties at all the bars and the 0:07:05.550 --> 0:07:08.430 places near Yankee Stadium, you're finishing right in the shadow 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:09.360 of Yankee Stadium. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:09.871 Oh, so it is very hilly. 0:07:09.871 --> 0:07:10.261 It's hilly. 0:07:10.830 --> 0:07:12.000 Shakespeare Hill, right? 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:13.830 I don't even know what these hills are called. I 0:07:13.830 --> 0:07:15.751 just know they're hilly. But I feel amazing. 0:07:15.751 --> 0:07:19.920 Now we have our amazing Peloton instructor, Rad Lopez, and 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.190 he's a Bronx native. He is born and bred in 0:07:23.190 --> 0:07:25.290 the Bronx. He's doing Shakeout Run, I think he's also 0:07:25.290 --> 0:07:26.880 running it. Don't quote me on that, but. 0:07:27.270 --> 0:07:29.580 I don't know, but I know we always get a 0:07:29.580 --> 0:07:33.510 great turnout of Peloton people and all kinds of people 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.311 coming to the Bronx. So I'm excited about that. 0:07:35.311 --> 0:07:35.521 It's going to be great. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.310 Good luck to everybody running. And by the way, before 0:07:38.370 --> 0:07:40.380 we move on, I just want to thank everyone, by 0:07:40.380 --> 0:07:43.230 the way, who has donated to my Team for Kids 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:47.310 page as I prepare to run in Berlin. I've gotten 0:07:47.310 --> 0:07:50.730 over $ 3, 000 in donations already, with still two weeks 0:07:50.730 --> 0:07:51.270 to go. 0:07:51.270 --> 0:07:51.690 Congratulations. 0:07:51.690 --> 0:07:54.090 So thank you all so much for donating. If you 0:07:54.090 --> 0:07:56.010 want to support the run, you can go to my 0:07:56.010 --> 0:08:00.480 Instagram page. It's in the bio. RT Simmel is my handle, 0:08:00.690 --> 0:08:02.910 and I would love to have your support. Obviously, it's 0:08:02.910 --> 0:08:05.700 all raising money for all of our youth and community 0:08:05.700 --> 0:08:08.490 programs at New York Road Runners. So, thank you everybody 0:08:08.490 --> 0:08:09.990 who's supporting Team for Kids. 0:08:09.990 --> 0:08:10.231 There we go. 0:08:10.231 --> 0:08:14.460 Supporting me as I try to run this 26.2 in Berlin. 0:08:14.460 --> 0:08:16.260 Thank you so much. And by the way, speaking of 0:08:16.260 --> 0:08:18.210 training, for those of you who are listening to the 0:08:18.210 --> 0:08:21.179 podcast at home this week, after we wrap up the 0:08:21.180 --> 0:08:24.900 live show, you'll hear from our man, Meb Keflezighi, with his 0:08:24.900 --> 0:08:28.920 weekly training tip as we approach the six- week out 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.650 mark from the TCS New York City Marathon. So, be 0:08:31.650 --> 0:08:32.700 sure to stay tuned- 0:08:32.700 --> 0:08:32.701 Six weeks. 0:08:32.701 --> 0:08:34.980 ... for this week's Meb Minutes. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.890 Only six weeks. I think I saw on Ted's Instagram 0:08:37.890 --> 0:08:40.110 something about 50 days and I couldn't believe that. 0:08:40.500 --> 0:08:40.501 Yeah. 0:08:40.501 --> 0:08:42.002 So it's less than (inaudible) . 0:08:42.002 --> 0:08:45.450 We have the number, like the days, hours and minutes 0:08:45.450 --> 0:08:48.660 to the marathon on our intra- company website at New 0:08:48.660 --> 0:08:51.030 York Road Runners, ticking and ticking and ticking. 0:08:51.030 --> 0:08:51.450 Wow. 0:08:51.540 --> 0:08:53.400 And sometimes I open it up and I'm like, oh 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.750 my God, that is scaring me. It feels like it's 0:08:57.750 --> 0:09:00.120 getting so close and it is getting close. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:00.390 It really is. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.300 But our team is ready to have another great day. 0:09:03.330 --> 0:09:03.809 Can't wait. 0:09:03.809 --> 0:09:05.939 In New York, we're doing our work. 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Peloton, the official 0:09:43.050 --> 0:09:45.540 digital fitness partner for New York Road Runners. 0:09:46.050 --> 0:09:49.590 All right, Becs, back to today's agenda. This week's episode and 0:09:49.590 --> 0:09:53.040 today's Fast Company panel is all about the intersection of 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.820 running and technology. For those new to our organization, New 0:09:56.820 --> 0:09:59.819 York Road Runners is a New York City based nonprofit, which 0:09:59.820 --> 0:10:03.720 organizes 60 adult and youth races every year, including of 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.809 course, the TCS New York City Marathon. Along with our 0:10:06.809 --> 0:10:11.160 partners like TCS and Peloton, we're committed to bringing world- 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.729 class experiences that are also inclusive and accessible to all 0:10:14.730 --> 0:10:17.579 of our participants, our spectators, and our fans. And so 0:10:17.580 --> 0:10:21.600 during our conversation today with Haley, we'll talk more about 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:25.020 the role that investments in technology, as well as partnerships 0:10:25.230 --> 0:10:29.429 with pioneering companies like TCS, play in enhancing and growing 0:10:29.670 --> 0:10:33.150 our impact. Technology has been a big focus of mine 0:10:33.330 --> 0:10:35.220 since I've been here as CEO of New York Road 0:10:35.220 --> 0:10:38.790 Runners. TCS is an incredible partner in making that happen, 0:10:38.790 --> 0:10:42.090 and so I am excited to welcome to today's show, 0:10:42.270 --> 0:10:45.300 her first appearance on Set the Pace, Haley Price, the 0:10:45.300 --> 0:10:49.590 Head of Sports in North America for Tata Consultancy services. 0:10:50.130 --> 0:10:50.521 Hello, Haley. 0:10:50.521 --> 0:10:51.030 Hi, Haley. 0:10:51.630 --> 0:10:54.179 Hello. Thank you so much Rob and Becs, for having me 0:10:54.179 --> 0:10:56.160 on Set the Pace. I'm excited to be here. 0:10:56.220 --> 0:10:56.221 Welcome. 0:10:56.221 --> 0:10:56.222 Thank you. 0:10:56.222 --> 0:10:59.699 It's great to have you here. Thank you for all the 0:10:59.940 --> 0:11:03.600 support of TCS to make everything we do at New 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.530 York Road Runners, and of course the marathon, possible. And 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:12.329 for those who don't know, you oversee sports sponsorships in 0:11:12.330 --> 0:11:14.670 the US and Canada, of course, including the TCS New 0:11:14.670 --> 0:11:18.359 York City Marathon, but there's more. There's the TCS Toronto 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:23.700 Waterfront Marathon. There's technology sponsorships of the Boston and Chicago 0:11:23.700 --> 0:11:27.420 Marathons. And, you guys have a sponsorship with a really 0:11:27.420 --> 0:11:32.670 cool racing league, the Jaguar TCS Racing Team, which is in the all- 0:11:32.670 --> 0:11:36.300 electric Formula E racing series, which is really cool, by 0:11:36.300 --> 0:11:36.420 the way. 0:11:36.420 --> 0:11:36.420 We're pretty busy. 0:11:36.420 --> 0:11:36.421 So cool. 0:11:36.421 --> 0:11:39.120 Yeah, you guys have a lot of cool things going 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.380 on. I had a chance to check out one of 0:11:40.380 --> 0:11:44.220 those Formula E cars out of your conference, they're incredible. 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.760 TCS is huge, more than 600, 000 employees. 0:11:47.820 --> 0:11:47.880 Wow. 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.819 And just this global footprint. You guys are also now 0:11:50.820 --> 0:11:55.350 sponsoring the brand new Sydney Marathon, the TCS Sydney Marathon, 0:11:55.350 --> 0:11:58.860 which just took place this last weekend. So you are 0:11:58.860 --> 0:12:01.605 busy. We'll talk about all of that, but Haley, I just 0:12:01.605 --> 0:12:04.050 want to start on a personal note. I've known you 0:12:04.050 --> 0:12:06.209 now for a year and change, coming up on two 0:12:06.210 --> 0:12:09.270 years since I've been here, but I'm always curious, what 0:12:09.450 --> 0:12:13.410 drew you into this job, into this industry? For those that 0:12:13.470 --> 0:12:15.540 don't know, she used to work at New York Road 0:12:15.540 --> 0:12:17.309 Runners and then went to the other side of the 0:12:17.309 --> 0:12:19.770 fence and now works with one of our most important 0:12:19.770 --> 0:12:22.950 partners. But how did you get into this whole space? 0:12:23.190 --> 0:12:25.349 Well, first of all, I think I'm just so lucky 0:12:25.350 --> 0:12:27.780 to be here today and so lucky to be working 0:12:27.780 --> 0:12:30.720 in sports. And is true, I used to work at 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.330 New York Road Runners way back, almost 20 years ago. 0:12:33.330 --> 0:12:36.900 I'm really dating myself now. 2005 was when I started 0:12:36.900 --> 0:12:40.260 New York Road Runners and I was so excited to work 0:12:40.260 --> 0:12:42.840 for the world's largest marathon. I really fell in love 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.450 with large events and seeing it all come to life. 0:12:45.809 --> 0:12:47.820 And so when I had the opportunity to work for 0:12:47.820 --> 0:12:49.590 New York Road Runners, I jumped on it and I 0:12:49.590 --> 0:12:53.250 learned a lot, on 89th Street in that old brownstone. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:57.809 I especially loved working my first marathon. In 2005, I had 0:12:57.809 --> 0:13:00.840 the very special privilege of holding the finish line tapes 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.780 in my backpack. And so I was super pumped to 0:13:03.780 --> 0:13:06.270 be at the finish line watching the pros come in 0:13:06.270 --> 0:13:08.820 and I'd give them, to give the tape holders the 0:13:08.820 --> 0:13:11.400 finish shape to hold and I'm so engrossed. I was 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.920 like, oh, is Hendrick going to pull it off? Is 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.010 Paul Tergat going to come in? Is Meb? Meb's coming? He's in 0:13:17.010 --> 0:13:19.770 third. And I was so engrossed in watching the broadcast within 0:13:19.770 --> 0:13:22.380 Tavern, that I realized that I gave them the wrong 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.439 finish line tape. And so my 23- year- old self 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.590 had never sprinted so fast trying to beat Paul back 0:13:28.590 --> 0:13:30.809 to the finish to swap out the tape. And spoiler 0:13:30.809 --> 0:13:31.741 alert, I got it. 0:13:31.741 --> 0:13:31.861 Yay. 0:13:32.309 --> 0:13:34.920 I swapped the tape just in time with literally moments 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.199 to spare. My heart was in my throat and I 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.240 was like, I have my dream job and I'm about 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.939 to get fired right now? This is the worst day 0:13:41.940 --> 0:13:44.100 of my life. But I learned a few key things 0:13:44.100 --> 0:13:48.420 about sponsorship, right? Media value. It's really important that on 0:13:48.420 --> 0:13:50.910 the New York Times, the right tape shows up in 0:13:51.300 --> 0:13:53.010 that photo in the New York Times the next day. 0:13:53.250 --> 0:13:56.189 I learned about sponsorship contracts and how to keep cool 0:13:56.190 --> 0:13:58.500 and calm under pressure. But really, I mean, it was 0:13:58.500 --> 0:14:01.709 just an amazing formative experience to be working at Road 0:14:01.710 --> 0:14:04.559 Runners back then, and I'm sure it absolutely is today. 0:14:04.890 --> 0:14:08.400 Working under the leadership of Mary Wittenberg and setting the 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.530 stage or maybe setting the pace for- 0:14:10.530 --> 0:14:10.621 There you go. 0:14:10.621 --> 0:14:15.030 ... where this word is today. I mean, unbelievable. And I 0:14:15.030 --> 0:14:18.000 would be remiss if I didn't shout out to Michelle 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.630 Doti Taylor who worked at Road Runners and apparently still 0:14:21.630 --> 0:14:24.930 liked me enough after the great tape incident of 2005, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:29.880 to hire me again at TCS to manage our partnerships starting 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:30.870 in 2015. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.530 Wow, what a story. I love that. And I'm sure you've 0:14:34.530 --> 0:14:37.260 carried so much of the love of running from New York 0:14:37.260 --> 0:14:40.440 Road Runners through to everything that you do at TCS. 0:14:40.500 --> 0:14:43.500 And it comes across in your personal life, because you 0:14:43.500 --> 0:14:49.650 are a runner yourself. And how do you put your 0:14:49.650 --> 0:14:53.880 personal love and passion for running into your day- to- 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:54.540 day career? 0:14:54.870 --> 0:14:58.170 Oh, well, I do love running and I started running 0:14:58.170 --> 0:15:02.010 in college, mostly because my dorm was really far from 0:15:02.010 --> 0:15:05.430 the gym, so it was really out of a basic necessity. And 0:15:05.430 --> 0:15:07.530 I fell in love with running along the Charles River. 0:15:07.650 --> 0:15:11.220 It was a great way to unwind, decompress, work through 0:15:11.250 --> 0:15:14.430 some problems, and do really my best thinking. And it 0:15:14.430 --> 0:15:17.130 didn't really occur to me to start running marathons until 0:15:17.130 --> 0:15:20.310 I joined New York Road Runners. And then it became 0:15:20.310 --> 0:15:22.500 kind of normal, or maybe it was abnormal if you 0:15:22.500 --> 0:15:26.550 weren't training for a marathon, but I loved the inclusive environment. 0:15:26.550 --> 0:15:29.190 It really welcomed everyone of all abilities to get out 0:15:29.190 --> 0:15:31.230 there and at least try. We used to do a lot 0:15:31.230 --> 0:15:34.980 of running meetings and hit Central Park with your boss. 0:15:34.980 --> 0:15:37.680 You'd get a lot of answers that way. And then 0:15:37.980 --> 0:15:42.420 I ran Chicago and I ran Boston, and then after 0:15:42.420 --> 0:15:44.130 I left the New York Road Runners, I ran the New York 0:15:44.130 --> 0:15:49.650 City Marathon in 2009, and it was my PR. I was 0:15:49.650 --> 0:15:52.920 on set to run a 3: 45, I ran a blistering 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.650 pace and I knew at the halfway point I was 0:15:55.650 --> 0:15:57.840 like, this is my fastest half- marathon ever, this is 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.590 a real problem. And I was like, came off the 0:16:01.590 --> 0:16:04.140 Queensboro Bridge and my IT band was just gone and 0:16:04.140 --> 0:16:06.870 I hobbled the last 10 miles and I seriously, seriously 0:16:06.870 --> 0:16:09.900 considered walking across Central Park to my apartment on the 0:16:09.900 --> 0:16:11.460 Upper West Side and just call it. And I was like, 0:16:11.730 --> 0:16:13.980 there's another race in there for me. But I finish 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.010 and I got a 3: 50, and now I'm retired 0:16:17.010 --> 0:16:18.090 from marathons. 0:16:18.180 --> 0:16:18.390 Okay. 0:16:18.690 --> 0:16:21.600 Yeah, I feel like it's not the season of my 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.560 life for that, but I love running so much. I 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.980 love getting out there in the Connecticut beaches and running wherever 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.710 I can, because I think running shouldn't be work. It 0:16:31.710 --> 0:16:32.581 should just work for you. 0:16:32.581 --> 0:16:32.851 Love that. 0:16:33.330 --> 0:16:36.750 And she may have retired from marathons but far from 0:16:36.750 --> 0:16:40.110 retired from half- marathons. Remember I ran a half- marathon 0:16:40.110 --> 0:16:43.230 in Fairfield, Connecticut back in June, and I'm hanging out 0:16:43.230 --> 0:16:45.960 at the finish line and turn around and who do 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.450 I see? Hailey Price just hanging out at the finish 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.970 line. So we ran that one together, didn't even know 0:16:50.970 --> 0:16:53.460 it, but she is an active half marathoner. 0:16:53.460 --> 0:16:53.700 Brilliant. 0:16:53.700 --> 0:16:57.150 Doing a great job out there. And Hailey, when I 0:16:57.150 --> 0:17:02.250 am around people from TCS, I am amazed at how 0:17:02.250 --> 0:17:05.730 big running is in the entire company. I mean, you've 0:17:05.730 --> 0:17:08.340 got runners all the way at the top of the 0:17:08.340 --> 0:17:12.030 company. Your Chairman, Chandra a big runner. I saw him 0:17:12.030 --> 0:17:15.330 in Paris, he was running the marathon Pour Tous over 0:17:15.330 --> 0:17:19.260 there. You've got people up and down the organization who 0:17:19.260 --> 0:17:22.980 are actively running. And not only that, but I've been 0:17:22.980 --> 0:17:27.690 at your conferences where you integrate running into your business 0:17:27.690 --> 0:17:32.369 messaging. You talk about running as a metaphor for business. And 0:17:32.369 --> 0:17:34.980 we talk about running as a metaphor for life on 0:17:34.980 --> 0:17:38.400 this podcast all the time, and all of the things that 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.570 you learn by running that you really use for things 0:17:42.570 --> 0:17:47.220 other than running. What does running mean for TCS and 0:17:47.220 --> 0:17:51.150 how as an organization do you all integrate it into 0:17:51.150 --> 0:17:51.960 everything that you do? 0:17:54.300 --> 0:17:56.790 At TCS, running, we believe that running has the power 0:17:56.790 --> 0:18:00.330 to change lives. We truly believe that it permeates our 0:18:00.330 --> 0:18:04.710 culture, as you saw firsthand. And I love how we 0:18:04.710 --> 0:18:08.639 got into running in the beginning. So our Chairman of 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:13.949 Tata Group, then CEO of TCS, Chandra, who you said who you 0:18:13.950 --> 0:18:17.399 met in Paris, he started running later in life and 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.040 he ran the marathon also in 2009. Apparently we were 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.430 in the same race, didn't even know it. And he 0:18:23.430 --> 0:18:26.220