WEBVTT - Love, Happiness, and Creativity: An Essay

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<v S1>Welcome to the habit podcast conversations with writers about writing.

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<v S1>I'm Jonathan Rogers, your host. I'm going to try something

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<v S1>new here at the Habit podcast. Instead of an interview,

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<v S1>I'm going to read you a little essay I wrote.

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<v S1>I presented a version of this essay as a talk

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<v S1>for The Rabbit Room's 2024 House moot event. It's called love,

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<v S1>happiness and Creative Work. The music you hear every week

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<v S1>on this podcast is Diamonds by Taylor Leonard. It's a

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<v S1>song I love, and I especially love this line from

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<v S1>the chorus. You are not an afterthought. Love himself dreamed

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<v S1>you up. That idea is the starting point for this

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<v S1>essay about love and creativity. It's also going to be

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<v S1>the ending point, and I'm going to hit it a

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<v S1>few times in the middle too. You are not an afterthought.

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<v S1>Love himself. Dreamed you up probably ten years ago. Maybe

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<v S1>further back than that. I attended a talk by the

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<v S1>mathematician and apologist John Lennox. He suggested that the fundamental

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<v S1>difference between an atheist and a theist is that an

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<v S1>atheist believes that matter gave rise to mind, and a

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<v S1>theist believes that mind gave rise to matter. I'm quite

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<v S1>sure he wasn't the first person to articulate that idea,

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<v S1>but he was the first person I ever heard articulate it,

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<v S1>and I've thought about it quite a bit ever since.

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<v S1>So again, for an atheist or a materialist somehow matter

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<v S1>organized in such a way that it gave rise to minds.

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<v S1>And for a theist of any kind, whether a Christian

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<v S1>or some other kind of theist, there was a God

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<v S1>who had an idea, and that idea ultimately became the universe.

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<v S1>Josef Pieper, paraphrasing Thomas Aquinas, wrote, the essence of things

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<v S1>is that they are creatively thought. That's a remarkable thing

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<v S1>to think about. The essence of a thing is not

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<v S1>its atoms or its molecules or its cells. The essence

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<v S1>of a thing is that it was creatively thought. Everything

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<v S1>that exists in the universe exists because God thought it

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<v S1>was a good idea. Love himself dreamed you up. He

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<v S1>also dreamed up trees and porcupines and cities and music.

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<v S1>God thought all those things were a good idea. And

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<v S1>that's why they exist. And by the way, you are

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<v S1>able to think about things. Your mind can engage with

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<v S1>things because those things were thought first by God. Things

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<v S1>are intelligible to your mind because things are mind shaped.

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<v S1>Everything you've ever thought about God thought about first. And so,

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<v S1>in a literal sense, we are always thinking God's thoughts

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<v S1>after him. You've probably heard that phrase before thinking God's

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<v S1>thoughts after him. I've seen it used in a few

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<v S1>different contexts, starting with a sort of Christian world and

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<v S1>life view movement. I want to think about the world

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<v S1>the way God thinks about the world, or I want

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<v S1>to judge matters of, say, morality, the way God judges

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<v S1>matters of morality. That's one way to to think about

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<v S1>the phrase thinking God's thoughts after him. I think the

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<v S1>phrase thinking God's thoughts after him originated with Johannes Kepler,

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<v S1>the 16th and 17th century astronomer who described science as

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<v S1>thinking God's thoughts after him. God thought the universe into being.

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<v S1>And so when we're doing scientific work, in Kepler's case,

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<v S1>understanding the way planets and the stars move, we're thinking

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<v S1>God's thoughts after him. I've already suggested that in one

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<v S1>important sense, we can't help but think God's thoughts after him,

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<v S1>because everything you've ever thought about was God's thought before

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<v S1>it was a thing. But also, I want to consider

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<v S1>the possibility that to love is to think God's thoughts

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<v S1>after him. The word love is used in a lot

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<v S1>of different ways, right? I love my wife. I love

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<v S1>my children. I love my friends. I love sad old

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<v S1>country songs. I love Shakespeare's King Lear, I love watermelon.

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<v S1>All right, I'm not going to get pedantic about the

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<v S1>difference between agape love and phileo love and Eros love.

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<v S1>Nor am I going to scold anybody about using the

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<v S1>word love too loosely. Rather, I want to pay attention

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<v S1>to what all those uses of the word love have

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<v S1>in common. As Josef Pieper says, in every conceivable case.

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<v S1>Love signifies the same thing as approval. So no, I

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<v S1>don't mean exactly the same thing when I say I

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<v S1>love watermelon and my wife and King Lear, but I

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<v S1>do at least mean that I approve of them. As

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<v S1>Peter points out, approval derives from the Latin word Probus,

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<v S1>which just means good. So then to approve of or

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<v S1>to love a person or a thing is to say

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<v S1>it is good that you exist. It's good wife that

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<v S1>you exist. It's good friend that you exist. It's good

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<v S1>watermelon that you exist. I don't think it's a stretch

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<v S1>then to offer this working definition. To love is to

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<v S1>say God thinks it's a good idea that this person,

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<v S1>or even this thing exists. And so I think it

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<v S1>is to love himself. Dreamed you up, love himself, thought

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<v S1>you were a good idea. And he wasn't wrong about that.

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<v S1>To love is to agree with the God who made

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<v S1>the beloved. When you love a child, you affirm the child.

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<v S1>You say it's good that the child exists, but also

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<v S1>you affirm the child's maker and the whole plan that

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<v S1>resulted in this child's existence. In doing so, you align

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<v S1>your will with the will of the maker who thought

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<v S1>that child was a good idea. I know you've heard

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<v S1>this idea before, that love is not an emotion. It's

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<v S1>an act of the will. Well, yes and amen. Pieper

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<v S1>says the most extreme form of affirmation that can possibly

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<v S1>be conceived of is creation, which is very much an

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<v S1>act of the will. Remember in the creation story, at

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<v S1>the end of every day, God says it is good.

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<v S1>God made that statement after each phase of creation. But

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<v S1>Thomas Aquinas would say that love, that approval, affirmation, preceded

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<v S1>the creation. So it's not just that God made things

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<v S1>and then judged them good, it's that he knew they

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<v S1>would be good. And so he made them. So then,

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<v S1>in creation, love and will are altogether inseparable. Everything exists

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<v S1>because God wanted it to exist. Because he thought it

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<v S1>was good. Love himself dreamed you up. And so human

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<v S1>love is always an imitation and a repetition of the

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<v S1>love of God. So Pepper, again, he says, the lover

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<v S1>knows that his affirmation directed toward the beloved would be

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<v S1>pointless were not some other force akin to creation involved,

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<v S1>and moreover, a force not merely preceding his own love,

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<v S1>but one that is still at work, and that he himself,

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<v S1>the loving person, participates in and helps along by loving. Okay,

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<v S1>I know that was a lot, but let's put it

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<v S1>this way when you love, you are joining into a

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<v S1>love that is already in motion, the love of God

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<v S1>for the creature. That love precedes your love, but also

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<v S1>the loving and creative act of God is still unfolding.

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<v S1>Creation is not just something that happened in the past

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<v S1>and is now finished. Rather, creation is always continuing and

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<v S1>the human lover, by some mystery has a part to

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<v S1>play in that creative act. If that sounds overly mystical,

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<v S1>consider this there are people you love in whom you

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<v S1>see things that they can't see in themselves as you

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<v S1>call out those things in them, you help them become

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<v S1>who they really are. It's the lovers job to see

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<v S1>things in the beloved that the beloved can't see in

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<v S1>herself or himself. So your love is an echo of

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<v S1>the love of God. But it's not only an echo,

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<v S1>it's also a continuation and even an expansion of the

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<v S1>creative act that God is doing. God allows us to

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<v S1>participate in his ongoing creation. So there's the argument that

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<v S1>love is a kind of creative work. Your love for

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<v S1>the people around you, your love for the world around you,

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<v S1>is a kind of creative work, because our love affirms

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<v S1>and agrees with the loving, creative work of God. And

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<v S1>because God's love and creativity are not past tense, are

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<v S1>not completed. We are in some way participants in the

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<v S1>unfolding of the glories of the people we love. That's

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<v S1>a pretty remarkable thing to think about, isn't it? So then,

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<v S1>if love is a kind of creative work, can we

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<v S1>also say that creative work is a kind of love? Well,

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<v S1>I think the answer is yes. Thus far, I've mostly

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<v S1>been talking about loving people. It's maybe easier to understand

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<v S1>some of these concepts when we apply them to people, right?

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<v S1>As we love the people we love, we participate in

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<v S1>the unfolding and the expansion of their glories. And also

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<v S1>the God who began a good work in you will

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<v S1>complete that work through the people who love you, right?

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<v S1>God began the work. He's going to complete it. And

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<v S1>somehow human love is a part of that process. But

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<v S1>what about the rest of the world? What about the

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<v S1>not people aspects of creation, which, by the way, accounts

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<v S1>for most of creation? Well, God loves that creation too.

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<v S1>And according to Romans eight, the creation itself will be

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<v S1>liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the

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<v S1>freedom and glory of the children of God. So just

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<v S1>as people are moving toward a glorified state, the rest

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<v S1>of creation is also moving toward a glorified state. And

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<v S1>we have a role there too. A loving role, a

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<v S1>creative role. So we can't create out of nothing like

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<v S1>God can, but we can rearrange the materials that God

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<v S1>has given us, and we can be a part of

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<v S1>the process by which creation itself is liberated from bondage

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<v S1>to decay, and brought into the freedom and glory of

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<v S1>the children of God. We participate in the divine image

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<v S1>when we cultivate the goodness of the world in which

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<v S1>we find ourselves. When I teach writing, I often talk

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<v S1>to writers about loving their reader. Well. The truth is,

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<v S1>one of the challenges involved in loving your reader is

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<v S1>that you don't necessarily know who your reader is. How

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<v S1>do you love somebody when you don't know who they are? Well,

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<v S1>I think the way you do that is simply to

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<v S1>love what you love and invite your reader into the

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<v S1>things that you love. As you affirm, as you agree

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<v S1>with God that these things were good ideas. As you

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<v S1>work to enhance the glories of the world, to show

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<v S1>people the glories of things that you care about. Well, essentially,

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<v S1>that's a way of tending to the little patch of

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<v S1>ground that is yours to tend to. You're like the

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<v S1>gardener who creates a beautiful public garden for the people

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<v S1>who pass by. He loves those people by loving his garden.

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<v S1>The theologian Elaine T cherry wrote a book called God

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<v S1>of the Art of happiness. I ran across this book accidentally.

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<v S1>I was looking for books about hospitality, but the happiness

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<v S1>books come right before the hospitality books on the shelf

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<v S1>at Vanderbilt Divinity Library. And I love something she says,

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<v S1>she writes. Our limited participation in God by virtue of

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<v S1>our God given creativity, intelligence, and goodness suffices to bring

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<v S1>other things to their own flourishing by enhancing the well-being

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<v S1>of creation's materials, both inert and living. We transmit God's

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<v S1>creative goodness to the things on which we act for

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<v S1>their gainful use. That use is in turn transmitted to

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<v S1>those who will use and enjoy them. I know there's

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<v S1>a lot there. We're going to try to work through

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<v S1>it here. I love this idea of we have this

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<v S1>limited participation in God by virtue of our God given creativity, intelligence,

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<v S1>and goodness. It's limited, and yet that's part of our

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<v S1>image bearing role. Um. As you tend to your little

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<v S1>patch of ground, you benefit the people who pass through. Okay.

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<v S1>The idea here that we transmit God's creative goodness, um,

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<v S1>when we bring things to their gainful use, right. We

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<v S1>we bring good things to the, the things we've worked on,

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<v S1>but we also bring good things to the people who

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<v S1>benefit from them. And I want to emphasize something that, um,

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<v S1>maybe a slightly surprising she talks about enhancing the well-being

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<v S1>of creation's materials, both inert and living. So that's worth

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<v S1>thinking about a little bit. Right. The inert aspects of

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<v S1>the created order? Well, they're part of the created order, too.

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<v S1>And they have a well-being that we can serve. That

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<v S1>may not seem self-evident, but think about this. If you're

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<v S1>a gardener, you're bringing the raw material of creation, some

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<v S1>of it inert. Right? Soil is inert. Um, but you're

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<v S1>bringing it toward its perfection, and you're adding to the

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<v S1>goodness and to the glory and to the wonders around you.

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<v S1>And in so doing, you're loving the people around you.

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<v S1>And also, we're going to return to this in a minute.

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<v S1>You're making the world look a little bit more like

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<v S1>the world you want to live in. I used. I've

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<v S1>been using the example of a community garden that benefits

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<v S1>the people in the community, but also it benefits the

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<v S1>gardener because now the neighborhood has a garden. The neighborhood

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<v S1>is more like the kind of neighborhood that gardener wants

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<v S1>to live in. Well, Elaine Cherry uses the language of flourishing, right?

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<v S1>She speaks of using your God given creativity, intelligence and

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<v S1>goodness to bring things to their own flourishing. Well, Aquinas

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<v S1>says essentially the same thing, but he uses the language

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<v S1>of purpose. He says since all things are purposeful, the

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<v S1>better we advance other things to their proper purpose, the

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<v S1>more godly we are and the happier we become as

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<v S1>the persons we are and are becoming. The idea is

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<v S1>this God had an idea of what any given thing

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<v S1>was and what it was for before he made it. Therefore,

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<v S1>everything has a purpose, okay? Everything that was thought is purposeful,

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<v S1>and then you move toward joy as you advance other

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<v S1>things toward their proper purpose. As you extend out from

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<v S1>your own self and see how you can make the

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<v S1>things of the created order align a little more with

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<v S1>their purpose. You're affirming and you're agreeing with God's purposes.

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<v S1>So when we do creative work, and I'm defining creative

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<v S1>work very broadly here, we're doing a few different things simultaneously.

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<v S1>One thing we're doing is simply giving voice to or

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<v S1>drawing the attention of our readers or listeners or audience members,

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<v S1>the people who pass through our patch of ground. We're

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<v S1>drawing their attention to the glories of creation. Right? We

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<v S1>give an account of the hope that is within us.

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<v S1>When Saint Peter talks about always being prepared to give

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<v S1>an account of the hope that's within you. I always

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<v S1>assumed that he was talking about making arguments. Now, I

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<v S1>think maybe it's more about just affirming, giving an account

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<v S1>of what it is that seems good about the created order.

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<v S1>It seems like the world needs that kind of affirmation

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<v S1>as much as it ever has, to give an account

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<v S1>of the hope within us. Maybe as simple as saying,

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<v S1>I have seen these wonders and I want you to

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<v S1>see them too. It's a way of saying it's good

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<v S1>that these things exist. God wasn't wrong when he thought

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<v S1>they were a good idea. Well, maybe along the same lines,

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<v S1>Wendell Berry wrote, the business of literature, then, is to

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<v S1>renew not only itself, but also our sense of the

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<v S1>perennial newness of what is perennially new. Yes and amen.

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<v S1>So that's one role, an incredibly important role of a

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<v S1>person who's doing creative work. And all good work is

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<v S1>creative in some sense. Whatever work you do, I hope

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<v S1>you're always giving a truer account of things than the

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<v S1>world is giving. Every time you make a good meal

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<v S1>and serve it to people you love. You're telling a

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<v S1>different story than, say, McDonald's is telling. When you garden,

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<v S1>you bring order to disorder. You're telling a story about

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<v S1>how the world can be. So you're always telling a

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<v S1>truer story in your creative work. You're always bearing witness

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<v S1>to a created order that you didn't make that exists

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<v S1>without reference to you. Okay. That's one thing you're doing.

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<v S1>But also when you make, you are also adding to

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<v S1>the stock of good things in the world, right? You're

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<v S1>not just pointing to good things that you didn't make.

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<v S1>And as you stay alert to the wonders of the world,

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<v S1>those wonders inspire you to do. They inspire you to make.

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<v S1>And yet, as Junius Johnson has said, the wonder you

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<v S1>create is not the wonder you first saw. You take

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<v S1>in as much as you can take in. You try

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<v S1>to give a voice to it. But what you produce

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<v S1>always turns out to be something different from what you

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<v S1>took in. That can be frustrating. And yet, when you

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<v S1>make anything at all, you've added to the stock of

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<v S1>wonder in the world. So even when your work feels

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<v S1>like a failure, I hope you'll consider the possibility that

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<v S1>you've added to the stock of wonders in the world.

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<v S1>And the wonders of the world are shared property, which

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<v S1>is to say, as they increase, we all get richer.

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<v S1>Here's what Thomas Aquinas had to say on the subject.

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<v S1>And I have to acknowledge Elaine Terry again, because I

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<v S1>first saw this Aquinas quote in her book, the good

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<v S1>of one becomes common to many if it flows from

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<v S1>the one to the others. God communicated his goodness to

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<v S1>his creatures in such wise that one thing can communicate

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<v S1>to another the good. It has received two ideas I

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<v S1>want to make sure you get from this. First, the

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<v S1>idea of the good of one becoming the good of

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<v S1>the many. As you put good things into the world,

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<v S1>those goods become common property. And secondly, God organized the

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<v S1>universe in such a way that the good that he

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<v S1>has given to you is communicable to others. And I

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<v S1>don't just mean communicable, as in you can put it

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<v S1>into a message that can then be told or sung

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<v S1>or preached or whatever. Goodness is communicable the way the

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<v S1>flu is communicable. And so the goodness of God has

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<v S1>blessed you with the gifts that he has blessed you

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<v S1>with are communicable to others. They can be passed along,

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<v S1>and as they are communicated, they become shared property. To

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<v S1>borrow from Lewis Hyde's book, The Gift, intangible goods like

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<v S1>beauty and hope and love and joy operate in the

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<v S1>gift economy, not the market economy. And when you give

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<v S1>away intangible goods, they aren't subtracted from your stock. They

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<v S1>are multiplied. When you give away love or joy or beauty,

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<v S1>you have more, not less. If you give away knowledge,

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<v S1>you don't have less knowledge. In fact, you have your

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<v S1>knowledge more completely. So again, when you're doing creative work,

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<v S1>when you are adding to the stock of wonders in

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<v S1>the world, you aren't working in an economy of scarcity.

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<v S1>It's not a zero sum game as you do good work,

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<v S1>as you bring other things and other people to their

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<v S1>own flourishing, the good you add becomes common to many.

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<v S1>The flourishing that you give to others becomes your own flourishing.

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<v S1>So here's Elaine Cherry again, acting on things for their

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<v S1>good advances, their purpose. And as this happens, we are

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<v S1>also improving. Enhancing the flourishing of others enhances our own.

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<v S1>This is enjoying ourselves and being happy in life. In

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<v S1>addition to being godlike, living excellently is simply pleasurable. So

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<v S1>as you affirm and agree with and participate in the

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<v S1>loving creativity of the God who dreamed all this up,

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<v S1>the world you live in starts to look more like

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<v S1>the world you want to live in. Along the Camino

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<v S1>de Santiago, the pilgrimage route in Spain, there's a monastery

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<v S1>called Iraci that's quite famous among the pilgrims who pass

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<v S1>through all along the Camino ends in hostels and villages,

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<v S1>provide water fountains for the hot, thirsty, dusty travelers who

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<v S1>are walking through. So, like many of the hospitable locals

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<v S1>along the route, the monks at Iraci provide a water fountain,

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<v S1>but also they provide a wine fountain. The monastery has

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<v S1>its own vineyard, so the monks invite pilgrims passing through

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<v S1>to fill up a cup of wine. At the wine fountain,

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<v S1>there's a sign at the fountain that translates Pilgrim. If

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<v S1>you want to reach Santiago with strength and vitality, drink

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<v S1>from this great wine and toast to happiness. It's a

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<v S1>kindness to provide water to those passing through. But wine?

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<v S1>That's just prodigal, right? The monks have created this little

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<v S1>outpost of the kingdom of heaven where wine flows like water.

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<v S1>I love that image. I love it for the pilgrims,

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<v S1>but I especially love it for the monks. The people

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<v S1>who pass through. Well, they're just passing through. But the monks,

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<v S1>they live in a place where wine flows like water.

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<v S1>And don't you think they love that? Don't you think

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<v S1>they love living in a world where that kind of

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<v S1>prodigality is an everyday occurrence? Again, this is the economy

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<v S1>you live in when you do creative work. Your little

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<v S1>patch of ground is a blessing to the people who

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<v S1>pass through, and that's gratifying. But just as importantly, you

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<v S1>get to live there. You get to live in this

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<v S1>place that looks a little bit more like the world

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<v S1>you want to live in. It's good that you exist.

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<v S1>Love himself dreamed you up. So I hope you'll go

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