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S1: Yeah, I can imagine. Well, actually, that reminds me of

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432
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S2: is in the middle of that. So they lost a

433
00:20:36,362 --> 00:20:38,462
S2: fair bit, a fair bit favorite where he lost a

434
00:20:38,462 --> 00:20:41,852
S2: fair bit of his prime. Throughout World War two. Um,

435
00:20:42,092 --> 00:20:43,922
S2: but you did a couple of tours to England and

436
00:20:43,922 --> 00:20:47,402
S2: 37 and 49, and I think he kept in New

437
00:20:47,402 --> 00:20:49,802
S2: Zealand for a test match. He coached New Zealand for

438
00:20:49,802 --> 00:20:51,962
S2: a while when the in the 50s, I think after

439
00:20:51,962 --> 00:20:54,452
S2: he stopped playing. So yeah, cricket was in the blood.

440
00:20:54,452 --> 00:20:55,862
S2: He was he used to bother me when I was

441
00:20:55,862 --> 00:20:59,672
S2: a kid and all of that cool stuff. So, um,

442
00:20:59,702 --> 00:21:01,712
S2: he was one of my first. Well, he was my

443
00:21:01,712 --> 00:21:04,682
S2: first cricket coach and I was very lucky to when

444
00:21:04,682 --> 00:21:08,762
S2: he was sort of incapacitated and couldn't come to cricket.

445
00:21:08,792 --> 00:21:10,862
S2: My next cricket coach was Martin Crowe was my dad's

446
00:21:10,862 --> 00:21:15,062
S2: best mate growing, growing up. So I was, uh, I

447
00:21:15,062 --> 00:21:16,682
S2: was pretty lucky in cricket, to be honest.

448
00:21:16,712 --> 00:21:18,962
S1: No kidding pal. Yeah, a couple a couple of decent

449
00:21:18,962 --> 00:21:23,372
S1: coaches there. Um, yeah. John Reid called Merv, I think,

450
00:21:23,402 --> 00:21:27,362
S1: the most underrated first class cricketer in New Zealand or

451
00:21:27,362 --> 00:21:30,902
S1: something along those lines. Um, I was reading about him, uh,

452
00:21:30,902 --> 00:21:33,542
S1: we a while ago, and, um, they called him, uh,

453
00:21:33,542 --> 00:21:35,852
S1: you probably know all this stuff, but for the listeners, um,

454
00:21:35,942 --> 00:21:38,942
S1: flip because that was the most, uh, sort of damning

455
00:21:38,942 --> 00:21:41,792
S1: expletive that would come out of his mouth is well,

456
00:21:41,822 --> 00:21:42,662
S1: to do, gentleman.

457
00:21:43,232 --> 00:21:46,232
S2: Unfortunately, I didn't get that. I got dad's side, so.

458
00:21:47,252 --> 00:21:47,942
S3: Yeah. But yeah.

459
00:21:47,942 --> 00:21:50,042
S2: He was, uh, he was very mild mannered. He was

460
00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:55,262
S2: very calm. Um, you know, I mean, he was he got.

461
00:21:56,582 --> 00:21:59,432
S2: When did he. He would have died in 2007, I think.

462
00:21:59,462 --> 00:22:01,922
S2: And he was 91. So, you know, he was pretty

463
00:22:02,942 --> 00:22:05,912
S2: maybe 2008. I'm not very good with dates. Um, but,

464
00:22:05,942 --> 00:22:09,362
S2: you know, he was he was pretty old when I

465
00:22:09,362 --> 00:22:12,302
S2: was born. So, you know, I've got some great memories

466
00:22:12,302 --> 00:22:17,642
S2: early on of him, you know, you know, playing cricket

467
00:22:17,642 --> 00:22:19,592
S2: in the backyard, coming to watch games. And then he

468
00:22:19,592 --> 00:22:23,192
S2: got he he struggled with diabetes, the back end of

469
00:22:23,192 --> 00:22:26,102
S2: his life. And, um, you know, was pretty sick the

470
00:22:26,102 --> 00:22:29,612
S2: last few years. So I didn't get a whole lot

471
00:22:29,642 --> 00:22:32,822
S2: when I was, um, you know, through my teenage years.

472
00:22:32,822 --> 00:22:35,582
S2: He didn't, you know, he couldn't watch, but he could.

473
00:22:35,612 --> 00:22:38,192
S2: Like always, he was always very interested. But he was

474
00:22:38,192 --> 00:22:41,552
S2: always very, very calm, very, very patient. You know, as

475
00:22:41,552 --> 00:22:44,162
S2: a youngster, I never remember him yelling at me, going, oh,

476
00:22:44,162 --> 00:22:47,852
S2: you didn't. Your grip's wrong or this is wrong. Um, yeah.

477
00:22:47,852 --> 00:22:50,432
S2: He was he was great. They used to own a

478
00:22:50,462 --> 00:22:53,582
S2: sports store up in Auckland called Wallace and Webb, um,

479
00:22:53,582 --> 00:22:58,142
S2: which was a pretty famous shop. And he was, um,

480
00:22:58,412 --> 00:22:59,912
S2: you know, a lot of people used to go in

481
00:22:59,942 --> 00:23:02,072
S2: there and get bets off him, and by all accounts,

482
00:23:02,072 --> 00:23:05,312
S2: he'd give them. He'd give some, uh, some batting tips

483
00:23:05,312 --> 00:23:08,252
S2: and various other things, you know, when people were going

484
00:23:08,252 --> 00:23:10,112
S2: to buy bats off him, which was pretty cool. And

485
00:23:10,112 --> 00:23:13,382
S2: that was, you know, well before my time. But, um, yeah,

486
00:23:13,382 --> 00:23:17,552
S2: he was always renowned as. Yeah, a very, a very

487
00:23:17,552 --> 00:23:20,522
S2: good technician of the game and very, very calm and collected.

488
00:23:20,522 --> 00:23:23,822
S2: So hopefully I got a little bit of that from him.

489
00:23:23,852 --> 00:23:26,132
S2: Definitely got some of it from dad's side as well.

490
00:23:26,132 --> 00:23:30,302
S2: But the competitiveness the way that my dad's side.

491
00:23:30,332 --> 00:23:31,472
S3: Yeah yeah yeah for sure.

492
00:23:31,502 --> 00:23:34,982
S1: Yeah. Well I mean um, and actually, when we were

493
00:23:34,982 --> 00:23:37,532
S1: teeing this up, I didn't realize, but it was good

494
00:23:37,532 --> 00:23:39,932
S1: timing because it is the lunch break on the and

495
00:23:39,932 --> 00:23:41,732
S1: the cricket as well that you were just talking about before.

496
00:23:41,732 --> 00:23:43,262
S1: You're going to watch them this afternoon. They're actually off

497
00:23:43,262 --> 00:23:45,782
S1: to a decent start. Uh, the Black Caps I.

498
00:23:45,782 --> 00:23:49,412
S2: Saw, I saw that, um, yeah, we're we're in a

499
00:23:49,412 --> 00:23:52,172
S2: pretty good place. New Zealand cricket, I think, you know. Yeah. Um,

500
00:23:52,202 --> 00:23:56,072
S2: obviously Tim Southee's last, last test series. I went to

501
00:23:56,072 --> 00:23:58,922
S2: school with Tim, actually. Right. He was pretty good. Pretty

502
00:23:58,922 --> 00:24:02,492
S2: good player as a 15 year old at school, I remember. So, um. Yeah,

503
00:24:02,492 --> 00:24:05,822
S2: he's had an incredible international career. So it's been good

504
00:24:05,822 --> 00:24:08,642
S2: to see, but yeah, it's. Yeah. I went to the

505
00:24:08,642 --> 00:24:10,592
S2: World Test Championship final in London.

506
00:24:10,622 --> 00:24:11,402
S1: Oh well.

507
00:24:11,402 --> 00:24:14,132
S2: When we won that just just one of the days, um,

508
00:24:14,132 --> 00:24:16,952
S2: which was pretty cool. So yeah, I love, love my

509
00:24:16,952 --> 00:24:19,622
S2: cricket and, you know, always, always follow the Black Caps.

510
00:24:19,652 --> 00:24:21,602
S2: Know a few of the guys pretty well because they're

511
00:24:21,632 --> 00:24:25,562
S2: they're massively into their golf, which is cool. Um, so yeah,

512
00:24:25,562 --> 00:24:28,112
S2: I'll be be pulling for them the next, you know,

513
00:24:28,142 --> 00:24:31,022
S2: few weeks obviously. Um, it'd be nice to back up

514
00:24:31,022 --> 00:24:33,262
S2: that test series win in India with a with a

515
00:24:33,262 --> 00:24:34,852
S2: clean sweep of the palms too, wouldn't it?

516
00:24:34,882 --> 00:24:37,222
S1: Wouldn't it though? Yeah, it'd be great. And we've got

517
00:24:37,222 --> 00:24:40,042
S1: the India Australia stuff as well going on at the moment.

518
00:24:40,042 --> 00:24:41,782
S1: That was that was incredible as well.

519
00:24:41,872 --> 00:24:43,882
S2: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, it's kind of nice

520
00:24:43,882 --> 00:24:47,212
S2: to see us beat India and then in their pants. Yeah, right.

521
00:24:47,482 --> 00:24:51,382
S2: I know unreal cricket as a sport in general is

522
00:24:51,382 --> 00:24:53,572
S2: just crazy. Yeah, I think that's why people love it.

523
00:24:53,572 --> 00:24:57,502
S2: So there's, you know, so much random stuff can happen.

524
00:24:57,502 --> 00:25:00,232
S2: You can't you can't predict any of it. And. Yeah.

525
00:25:00,502 --> 00:25:03,592
S1: Well that's the beauty of it, eh. You know. Yeah, absolutely.

526
00:25:03,622 --> 00:25:06,532
S1: It's always the thing where it's like, um, you know,

527
00:25:06,562 --> 00:25:09,772
S1: I always enjoy any kind of sporting contest where you're

528
00:25:09,772 --> 00:25:12,982
S1: not sure at the start who is going to win, right?

529
00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:15,232
S1: You know, it's like, okay, let's just see the contest

530
00:25:15,232 --> 00:25:17,452
S1: for what it is, who does what on any given

531
00:25:17,452 --> 00:25:20,632
S1: day with the different circumstances that they have to contend with,

532
00:25:20,632 --> 00:25:23,482
S1: different conditions, all these sorts of things. That's the theatre

533
00:25:23,482 --> 00:25:26,512
S1: and the drama of sport that draws us all to it.

534
00:25:26,512 --> 00:25:27,382
S1: I think.

535
00:25:27,592 --> 00:25:30,862
S2: It is. Yeah. It is, it's great. And, you know, and,

536
00:25:30,892 --> 00:25:32,632
S2: you know, you don't need to gamble on it or

537
00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:35,092
S2: anything to have that experience with it, which is cool.

538
00:25:35,122 --> 00:25:38,902
S1: 100%. So you're obviously a big cricket watcher. Um, what

539
00:25:38,902 --> 00:25:41,812
S1: about I mean, obviously footy. What else do you watch?

540
00:25:41,842 --> 00:25:44,902
S1: You watch pretty much anything when you when time allows or.

541
00:25:44,932 --> 00:25:48,442
S2: Yeah. Yeah. I mean like yeah rugby and cricket are

542
00:25:48,442 --> 00:25:50,872
S2: my two sports growing up. So I try not to

543
00:25:50,902 --> 00:25:54,892
S2: miss all black games, but, um, that's a little harder

544
00:25:54,892 --> 00:25:56,002
S2: with two young kids.

545
00:25:56,032 --> 00:25:57,112
S3: Um, yeah. You know.

546
00:25:57,142 --> 00:25:59,632
S2: The, the northern tour with the games at 9:00 in

547
00:25:59,632 --> 00:26:02,962
S2: the morning didn't really, um, didn't really fit overly well

548
00:26:02,962 --> 00:26:05,062
S2: with two kids running around the house and dad trying

549
00:26:05,062 --> 00:26:07,342
S2: to sit on the couch watching, watching the all black

550
00:26:07,342 --> 00:26:10,882
S2: game on TV. Um, but yeah, like, I yeah, I

551
00:26:10,882 --> 00:26:13,252
S2: love rugby. Um, again, you know, got to know a

552
00:26:13,252 --> 00:26:15,892
S2: few of the guys relatively well who love golf. You know,

553
00:26:15,922 --> 00:26:18,862
S2: the body played a bit of golf with Bodie, Will Jordan,

554
00:26:18,862 --> 00:26:22,612
S2: those guys. Um, and it's it's cool to see, you know,

555
00:26:22,852 --> 00:26:25,282
S2: it's a nice escape for them. I think it's also

556
00:26:25,282 --> 00:26:27,322
S2: a pretty safe sport in that regard. I think all

557
00:26:27,322 --> 00:26:29,692
S2: they have to do is ride in a cart midweek

558
00:26:29,722 --> 00:26:31,342
S2: and they can kind of play when they're away on

559
00:26:31,342 --> 00:26:34,762
S2: tour and saves the legs. It gets them out. It's it's,

560
00:26:34,792 --> 00:26:38,242
S2: you know, a nice, um, nice to be out in

561
00:26:38,242 --> 00:26:40,312
S2: the fresh air and, you know, have a bit of

562
00:26:40,312 --> 00:26:43,192
S2: fun with your mates. So yeah, I think a lot

563
00:26:43,222 --> 00:26:45,802
S2: of sport, other sports people are into golf is kind

564
00:26:45,802 --> 00:26:48,652
S2: of a hobby now because it it is it is

565
00:26:48,652 --> 00:26:50,842
S2: safe and it's fun and it's easy and you can

566
00:26:50,842 --> 00:26:54,382
S2: do it kind of anywhere if you take your clubs. So. Yeah. Uh,

567
00:26:54,382 --> 00:26:57,022
S2: other than that, I mean, I'll watch pretty much anything

568
00:26:57,022 --> 00:26:59,482
S2: else that's on TV. Um, obviously I spent a bit

569
00:26:59,482 --> 00:27:02,452
S2: of time watching American sports this year. Being based in America.

570
00:27:02,482 --> 00:27:06,322
S2: Don't have any teams that I follow. Um, but I

571
00:27:06,322 --> 00:27:10,522
S2: quite like baseball. You know, I feel like that's equivalent

572
00:27:10,522 --> 00:27:12,562
S2: to cricket and got pretty lucky. The first couple of

573
00:27:12,562 --> 00:27:15,142
S2: games I watched the baseball was with a guy that

574
00:27:15,142 --> 00:27:18,532
S2: used to play like semi-professional baseball. So he kind of

575
00:27:18,562 --> 00:27:23,062
S2: could explain the intricacies around, you know, why you swap

576
00:27:23,062 --> 00:27:25,162
S2: pitches and what they why they're doing this and why

577
00:27:25,162 --> 00:27:27,682
S2: they're doing that and stuff like that. And when you

578
00:27:27,712 --> 00:27:30,412
S2: got an understanding of it, it was like, okay, this

579
00:27:30,412 --> 00:27:32,572
S2: is actually pretty cool. Like, it's not as fast as

580
00:27:32,572 --> 00:27:36,352
S2: some other games, but it's it's, you know, a bit more,

581
00:27:36,442 --> 00:27:39,682
S2: you know, like one day cricket ish that it's right.

582
00:27:39,712 --> 00:27:45,652
S2: Like there's quite a bit of strategy involved. Involved in it. And,

583
00:27:45,682 --> 00:27:47,422
S2: you know, I've been lucky to be able to go

584
00:27:47,422 --> 00:27:50,002
S2: to a few sporting events as well. You know, the

585
00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:53,602
S2: tour generally goes to some pretty cool spots being NHL games,

586
00:27:53,632 --> 00:27:57,082
S2: NBA games and, um, you know, a few baseball games

587
00:27:57,082 --> 00:27:59,482
S2: haven't done the NFL yet. That seems to be out

588
00:27:59,512 --> 00:28:03,682
S2: of season when we're when we're playing a little bit. But, um, yeah,

589
00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:05,752
S2: it's pretty cool to to do that. I never got

590
00:28:05,752 --> 00:28:07,432
S2: to a football game when I was in the UK,

591
00:28:07,432 --> 00:28:11,932
S2: which I'm a little bit disappointed about. Um, but yeah,

592
00:28:11,962 --> 00:28:14,452
S2: been to been to a few others like rugby, rugby

593
00:28:14,482 --> 00:28:16,342
S2: games over in the UK and stuff like that. Went

594
00:28:16,342 --> 00:28:19,462
S2: to the World Cup final unfortunately last year. Yeah.

595
00:28:19,462 --> 00:28:20,152
S1: Well still.

596
00:28:20,152 --> 00:28:22,792
S2: Great occasion. A little bit grim. It was a great occasion.

597
00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:24,862
S2: But when you, when my coach and my county are

598
00:28:24,862 --> 00:28:25,942
S2: South African, it's.

599
00:28:26,572 --> 00:28:26,902
S3: Um.

600
00:28:26,902 --> 00:28:29,812
S2: Well, I've got two coaches. My coach on tour is

601
00:28:29,812 --> 00:28:33,652
S2: South African, so I copped a fair bit of stick there. Um,

602
00:28:33,652 --> 00:28:36,622
S2: but yeah, I just. Yeah. Sport, sports. My life. I mean,

603
00:28:36,622 --> 00:28:38,932
S2: I grew up in a sporting family, as we've talked

604
00:28:38,932 --> 00:28:41,752
S2: about a little bit. So. Yeah, if I had a

605
00:28:41,752 --> 00:28:44,152
S2: choice to watch anything, I would just flick on TV

606
00:28:44,152 --> 00:28:46,582
S2: and see what's on, sport wise. And then if there's nothing,

607
00:28:46,582 --> 00:28:49,192
S2: nothing there, I'm flicking through other stuff.

608
00:28:49,222 --> 00:28:54,622
S1: Now, you mentioned cricketers getting some time away from their

609
00:28:54,652 --> 00:28:58,432
S1: number one focus by playing a bit of golf. Conversely,

610
00:28:58,432 --> 00:29:02,932
S1: I believe that, um, your, uh, I guess outlet, if

611
00:29:02,932 --> 00:29:06,592
S1: you like, is very much centred around fishing. Is that right?

612
00:29:06,862 --> 00:29:11,062
S2: That is, um, probably a lot more so four years

613
00:29:11,062 --> 00:29:14,332
S2: ago than it is now, right? Uh, a four year

614
00:29:14,332 --> 00:29:16,522
S2: old and a one, almost four year old and an

615
00:29:16,522 --> 00:29:19,582
S2: 18 month old. Um, they kind of take it a

616
00:29:19,582 --> 00:29:22,972
S2: bit more time out of, uh, out of the schedule.

617
00:29:22,972 --> 00:29:25,642
S2: And it's a bit harder when I the little I

618
00:29:25,672 --> 00:29:27,652
S2: am home to disappear for a day on the boat,

619
00:29:27,652 --> 00:29:30,802
S2: but I'm trying to get my oldest into it now. Um,

620
00:29:30,832 --> 00:29:34,312
S2: and she she likes it. But as most young kids have,

621
00:29:34,342 --> 00:29:37,102
S2: they don't have a great attention span for it. So

622
00:29:37,612 --> 00:29:39,352
S2: I sort of get half an hour of fishing with her,

623
00:29:39,352 --> 00:29:41,602
S2: and that's about that's about it. So I've got a

624
00:29:41,602 --> 00:29:42,922
S2: bit of pressure on to catch her. A couple of

625
00:29:42,922 --> 00:29:45,892
S2: fish in that half an hour. Um, but yeah, I

626
00:29:45,892 --> 00:29:48,142
S2: love it. I've done a lot of it overseas when

627
00:29:48,142 --> 00:29:51,112
S2: we've travelled. Um, you know, we talked about Florida having

628
00:29:51,112 --> 00:29:53,002
S2: good fishing. I've done a bunch of fishing in Florida

629
00:29:53,242 --> 00:29:55,432
S2: in the last couple of years when we've been there,

630
00:29:55,702 --> 00:29:58,912
S2: you know, fished in Dubai, Fiji, all of those places

631
00:29:58,912 --> 00:30:02,452
S2: where we've been on tour. So I absolutely love it.

632
00:30:02,452 --> 00:30:04,342
S2: I've got far too much fishing gear, far too many

633
00:30:04,342 --> 00:30:06,172
S2: fishing rods. I've got a boat at home that barely

634
00:30:06,172 --> 00:30:06,742
S2: gets used.

635
00:30:06,772 --> 00:30:07,312
S3: Yeah.

636
00:30:07,342 --> 00:30:12,142
S2: It's, um. Yeah, I'd any chance I get. I'll be

637
00:30:12,172 --> 00:30:15,382
S2: out on the water, basically. I've. Yeah, there's there's not

638
00:30:15,382 --> 00:30:16,552
S2: a lot of chances anymore.

639
00:30:16,582 --> 00:30:19,192
S1: No, there will be later on, though. It's just you're

640
00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:22,102
S1: in that busy. You're in that really busy phase. Young kids. Man,

641
00:30:22,102 --> 00:30:25,252
S1: I know all about that. Trust me. Um. now. Yeah.

642
00:30:25,252 --> 00:30:27,742
S1: The thing is, there was a guy, um, who did

643
00:30:27,742 --> 00:30:31,042
S1: your garage up. I've heard through reliable sources. Ryan called.

644
00:30:31,132 --> 00:30:32,692
S1: I can't remember what his name was, but I think

645
00:30:32,722 --> 00:30:35,332
S1: pimp my garage might have been the the company that

646
00:30:35,332 --> 00:30:37,522
S1: he's got. Yeah. And he reckoned that. Yeah, there was

647
00:30:37,522 --> 00:30:39,442
S1: certainly a lot more fishing gear than there was golf

648
00:30:39,442 --> 00:30:41,302
S1: clubs in your garage, that's for sure.

649
00:30:41,572 --> 00:30:44,722
S2: Oh, yeah. I was like, I'm not overly sentimental about

650
00:30:44,752 --> 00:30:48,682
S2: golf stuff. So a lot of the old golf stuff

651
00:30:48,682 --> 00:30:50,482
S2: I have, like sets of irons and stuff I just

652
00:30:50,482 --> 00:30:53,062
S2: give away to mates. Yeah. I don't feel the urge

653
00:30:53,062 --> 00:30:56,902
S2: to keep that stuff, but I'm far more sentimental about

654
00:30:56,902 --> 00:30:57,832
S2: fishing rods.

655
00:30:58,162 --> 00:30:58,432
S3: In that.

656
00:30:58,432 --> 00:31:00,412
S2: Respect. Like if I have an old one, I tend

657
00:31:00,412 --> 00:31:04,312
S2: to not give that away. But then, you know, I

658
00:31:04,312 --> 00:31:06,172
S2: tend to take a few mates fishing who don't have

659
00:31:06,172 --> 00:31:08,302
S2: their own gear. So it's kind of nice to have

660
00:31:08,302 --> 00:31:11,062
S2: a few extra sets lying around that people can use.

661
00:31:11,062 --> 00:31:13,822
S2: So yeah, I've definitely got more fishing rods and fishing

662
00:31:13,822 --> 00:31:17,482
S2: gear than I do golf stuff. But um, yeah. Plus

663
00:31:17,482 --> 00:31:19,042
S2: I don't have to pay for the golf stuff as well.

664
00:31:19,042 --> 00:31:21,202
S2: I have to pay for the fishing gear, so it's

665
00:31:21,202 --> 00:31:23,492
S2: a little bit easier to give the golf gear away when?

666
00:31:23,612 --> 00:31:26,402
S2: When I haven't gone into my own pocket for it.

667
00:31:26,402 --> 00:31:27,332
S3: So yeah.

668
00:31:27,332 --> 00:31:30,272
S1: Exactly. Not as attached to it for sure. Um, yeah.

669
00:31:30,302 --> 00:31:33,602
S1: One of the interesting things is that, uh, you know,

670
00:31:33,632 --> 00:31:35,732
S1: you talk about being on this tour for so many,

671
00:31:35,762 --> 00:31:38,552
S1: you know, weeks of a year. Um, when it comes

672
00:31:38,552 --> 00:31:43,802
S1: to the socializing part or the camaraderie maybe between golfers

673
00:31:43,802 --> 00:31:47,132
S1: on the tour, what's that like from an insider's point

674
00:31:47,132 --> 00:31:49,922
S1: of view to all us sort of sports fans out there?

675
00:31:50,402 --> 00:31:54,452
S2: Um, I mean, it's certainly not what it used to be. Um,

676
00:31:54,482 --> 00:31:58,262
S2: you know, the old school, say, European tour was, you know,

677
00:31:58,292 --> 00:32:01,712
S2: the stalwart sitting at a bar pretty much most nights

678
00:32:01,712 --> 00:32:05,672
S2: and having a few beers and talking stick and, um,

679
00:32:05,702 --> 00:32:11,252
S2: there's lots of lots of old school stories about about that. But, um,

680
00:32:11,282 --> 00:32:15,812
S2: the camaraderie is definitely different between, say, Europe and the US. Um,

681
00:32:15,842 --> 00:32:19,112
S2: you know, the US, everyone tends to stay wherever you

682
00:32:19,112 --> 00:32:21,332
S2: get given a courtesy car for the week, so you

683
00:32:21,332 --> 00:32:22,582
S2: just kind of drive.

684
00:32:22,642 --> 00:32:23,332
S3: Right until you.

685
00:32:23,752 --> 00:32:26,152
S2: You go your own way. Once you get pick up

686
00:32:26,152 --> 00:32:28,432
S2: your car and everyone meets the golf course, and you

687
00:32:28,462 --> 00:32:30,172
S2: sit down and you have lunch with people, and that's

688
00:32:30,172 --> 00:32:31,702
S2: kind of it. You've got to go out of your

689
00:32:31,702 --> 00:32:33,772
S2: way a little bit to go out to dinner with

690
00:32:33,772 --> 00:32:36,262
S2: people and stuff like that. The camaraderie in Europe is

691
00:32:36,262 --> 00:32:40,702
S2: really good. Um, but it's slightly different. Like a lot

692
00:32:40,732 --> 00:32:43,582
S2: of the weeks guys are staying in the same hotels,

693
00:32:43,582 --> 00:32:45,892
S2: so you see the same guys a lot, and it's

694
00:32:45,892 --> 00:32:47,932
S2: really easy to go out for dinner. And, you know,

695
00:32:47,962 --> 00:32:49,762
S2: you just walk down to the lobby and people are

696
00:32:49,762 --> 00:32:52,642
S2: just sitting there having, you know, like, so what are

697
00:32:52,642 --> 00:32:55,882
S2: you doing? Come out. You know, it's just easier in

698
00:32:55,912 --> 00:33:01,042
S2: that respect. And, um, yeah, like everyone gets along, you know,

699
00:33:01,072 --> 00:33:06,682
S2: I think like any walk of life, there's a few weirdos, dickheads,

700
00:33:06,712 --> 00:33:09,442
S2: you know, you know, but if you've got an office of,

701
00:33:09,472 --> 00:33:13,402
S2: you know, there's 250 golfers that play on tour, you know,

702
00:33:13,432 --> 00:33:17,452
S2: within reason throughout a year, like if you've got 250

703
00:33:17,452 --> 00:33:19,852
S2: people in an office, like, there's going to be some

704
00:33:20,602 --> 00:33:22,462
S2: People that you don't get along with. There's going to

705
00:33:22,462 --> 00:33:24,682
S2: be some people that are fine, but you just find

706
00:33:24,682 --> 00:33:26,872
S2: weird and you're not going to socialize with like, that's

707
00:33:26,902 --> 00:33:28,612
S2: that's exactly what it's like on tour.

708
00:33:28,642 --> 00:33:32,242
S1: Yeah, no different from any office or any work space environment.

709
00:33:32,572 --> 00:33:39,382
S2: Except our office generally is very varied and where everyone's from.

710
00:33:39,382 --> 00:33:41,872
S2: So there's a there's a cultural difference as well. Like Europe,

711
00:33:42,352 --> 00:33:46,012
S2: you know, speaks for itself. You know, there's there's I

712
00:33:46,012 --> 00:33:48,862
S2: think the UK might have the most people on tour, but,

713
00:33:48,892 --> 00:33:51,762
S2: you know, no country has probably got more than 10

714
00:33:51,762 --> 00:33:54,262
S2: or 12 guys on tour. Maybe, maybe a little more

715
00:33:54,262 --> 00:33:57,892
S2: than that for, for the UK potentially. But yeah. So

716
00:33:57,892 --> 00:33:59,722
S2: there's a whole lot of different personalities, a whole lot

717
00:33:59,752 --> 00:34:03,202
S2: of different cultures that that come together in that respect.

718
00:34:03,202 --> 00:34:06,832
S2: So yeah, like there's just a clash of cultures and

719
00:34:06,832 --> 00:34:08,722
S2: that the US is a little bit the same. You know,

720
00:34:08,752 --> 00:34:10,672
S2: you compare the guys that grew up on the West

721
00:34:10,672 --> 00:34:14,122
S2: Coast around and California to the guys that grew up

722
00:34:14,122 --> 00:34:16,222
S2: in Georgia, to the guys that grew up in Texas.

723
00:34:16,222 --> 00:34:19,792
S2: Like there's a pretty big cultural difference there too. And again, like,

724
00:34:19,972 --> 00:34:22,642
S2: you know, there's people that don't get along. I you know,

725
00:34:22,672 --> 00:34:25,792
S2: there's not I don't think there's anyone on tour that I,

726
00:34:26,782 --> 00:34:28,342
S2: you know, wouldn't give the time of day to in

727
00:34:28,372 --> 00:34:31,852
S2: that respect. But there's definitely some people that, you know,

728
00:34:31,882 --> 00:34:34,612
S2: there's not a lot in common. And I would, you know,

729
00:34:34,642 --> 00:34:37,012
S2: I'd struggle to sit down and have a five minute

730
00:34:37,012 --> 00:34:40,222
S2: conversation with them. But yeah, there's definitely some people on

731
00:34:40,222 --> 00:34:43,072
S2: tour that don't get along with each other. And, um,

732
00:34:43,102 --> 00:34:44,752
S2: it's kind of funny when you see a pairing on

733
00:34:44,752 --> 00:34:47,512
S2: a Saturday and a Sunday and they end up playing together. It's, uh,

734
00:34:48,202 --> 00:34:49,912
S2: can be a few fireworks here and there.

735
00:34:49,942 --> 00:34:50,422
S3: Yeah, yeah.

736
00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:53,332
S1: Yeah, well, adds to the spice of it, I suppose. Right? Exactly. Yeah.

737
00:34:53,362 --> 00:34:54,352
S3: Yeah, exactly.

738
00:34:54,802 --> 00:34:59,482
S1: Um, okay. Chasing the Fox, um, is an event that's coming,

739
00:34:59,482 --> 00:35:02,452
S1: I believe, about mid December, I think this year.

740
00:35:02,632 --> 00:35:03,862
S3: 13th. Yeah. Friday the.

741
00:35:03,862 --> 00:35:07,222
S1: 13th. Friday the 13th, buddy. Good times. Um, and this

742
00:35:07,222 --> 00:35:08,992
S1: is how many years has this been going for a couple.

743
00:35:09,022 --> 00:35:09,282
S1: 2 or.

744
00:35:09,282 --> 00:35:09,412
S3: 3.

745
00:35:09,532 --> 00:35:12,712
S1: The third. Third one. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I looked at

746
00:35:12,712 --> 00:35:15,742
S1: some video highlights yesterday of John Key's hole in one

747
00:35:15,742 --> 00:35:16,792
S1: from last year.

748
00:35:17,242 --> 00:35:21,742
S3: Um, that was the first. Oh, that was the first year. 22. 22. Yeah, yeah.

749
00:35:21,922 --> 00:35:24,982
S2: That's that pretty much made the first year event like we.

750
00:35:25,012 --> 00:35:25,402
S3: Yeah.

751
00:35:25,432 --> 00:35:27,892
S2: It worked as a proof of concept. And then that

752
00:35:27,922 --> 00:35:30,802
S2: went kind of viral. That whole hole in one, this

753
00:35:30,802 --> 00:35:34,342
S2: first one, which was pretty awesome. Um, you know, to

754
00:35:34,372 --> 00:35:36,742
S2: do it in front of some cameras and a bunch

755
00:35:36,742 --> 00:35:38,902
S2: of all blacks and me and a son and all

756
00:35:38,932 --> 00:35:41,062
S2: of that, and, but with, you know, a few hundred

757
00:35:41,062 --> 00:35:44,272
S2: people watching, it was. Yeah, pretty cool to do that.

758
00:35:44,302 --> 00:35:46,552
S2: Except he except he looked down and didn't see the

759
00:35:46,552 --> 00:35:47,362
S2: ball go in the hole.

760
00:35:47,392 --> 00:35:47,902
S3: Yeah.

761
00:35:47,932 --> 00:35:50,632
S1: Well, yeah, there's a good video of it actually, but

762
00:35:50,632 --> 00:35:53,812
S1: it's mainly of people's reaction to it, which was extraordinary.

763
00:35:53,812 --> 00:35:57,532
S1: And it seemed to sum up the whole ethos and

764
00:35:57,532 --> 00:36:00,952
S1: philosophy behind the idea that you originally came up with. Right.

765
00:36:00,982 --> 00:36:03,382
S1: It kind of encapsulated that and that one kind of,

766
00:36:03,412 --> 00:36:05,482
S1: you know, 30s really?

767
00:36:06,262 --> 00:36:10,852
S2: Yeah. Look, we just wanted to make it just be

768
00:36:10,852 --> 00:36:12,712
S2: a bit different and make like, just to be a

769
00:36:12,712 --> 00:36:16,762
S2: fun event. And if we can get maybe first year.

770
00:36:16,762 --> 00:36:18,862
S2: It wasn't that because it was never going to be

771
00:36:18,862 --> 00:36:23,662
S2: big enough, but it was. If we can introduce a

772
00:36:23,662 --> 00:36:27,922
S2: few different people to golf, um, you know, a different

773
00:36:27,922 --> 00:36:32,482
S2: audience into golf through a different format, through showing that,

774
00:36:32,512 --> 00:36:35,512
S2: you know, there's all these people from other walks of life,

775
00:36:35,542 --> 00:36:38,932
S2: you know, famous New Zealanders. And I've been really lucky

776
00:36:38,932 --> 00:36:42,502
S2: and humbled to have, you know, the people we've had

777
00:36:42,502 --> 00:36:44,752
S2: over the last couple of years and this year as well.

778
00:36:44,782 --> 00:36:46,462
S2: Sign up to an event with my name on it

779
00:36:46,462 --> 00:36:48,472
S2: and just come out and put themselves out there and

780
00:36:48,472 --> 00:36:52,012
S2: play golf in front of people. Um, but they actually

781
00:36:52,042 --> 00:36:55,822
S2: to show them having fun playing golf no matter what

782
00:36:55,822 --> 00:36:59,122
S2: kind of shot they've hit. Like, you know, if we

783
00:36:59,122 --> 00:37:02,272
S2: can introduce a few more people into golf through that

784
00:37:02,272 --> 00:37:04,882
S2: medium and then, you know, this year we're going to

785
00:37:04,882 --> 00:37:07,582
S2: be on TVNZ as well. So again, if we can

786
00:37:07,582 --> 00:37:11,032
S2: introduce a few more people to the game, um, that's

787
00:37:11,032 --> 00:37:14,392
S2: kind of what we're aiming for really. Like it's yeah,

788
00:37:14,422 --> 00:37:16,912
S2: just introduce the game of golf to win. To win

789
00:37:16,942 --> 00:37:20,542
S2: a little bit of a different audience. Younger audience probably. And, um,

790
00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:22,912
S2: show that it can be. It doesn't have to be,

791
00:37:22,942 --> 00:37:26,062
S2: you know, old and stiff and boring and, you know,

792
00:37:26,092 --> 00:37:29,212
S2: all of that. You know, it's it's it's just a

793
00:37:29,212 --> 00:37:33,442
S2: bit of fun, really. Um, and hopefully as long as

794
00:37:33,442 --> 00:37:34,912
S2: we get a decent day of weather, I'm sure it'll

795
00:37:34,942 --> 00:37:36,682
S2: be pretty, pretty fun again this year.

796
00:37:36,712 --> 00:37:39,592
S1: That's your club, isn't it? Your, um, your sort of

797
00:37:39,622 --> 00:37:41,212
S1: home club, if you like.

798
00:37:41,572 --> 00:37:45,382
S2: Yeah. So I, I represent our links on tour. Um,

799
00:37:45,382 --> 00:37:49,882
S2: but Royal Auckland has been my home club. Yeah, 20 years.

800
00:37:49,912 --> 00:37:50,692
S3: Basically. Right.

801
00:37:50,722 --> 00:37:52,672
S2: You know, I've, I joined there when I was at

802
00:37:52,672 --> 00:37:58,642
S2: King's College. I played pennants for Royal. Um, yeah, it's yeah,

803
00:37:58,672 --> 00:38:01,282
S2: I play I always did all my playing and practicing

804
00:38:01,282 --> 00:38:05,482
S2: out of there when I was playing top level amateur golf. And, um,

805
00:38:05,512 --> 00:38:07,792
S2: you know, I've been been a member state, a member

806
00:38:07,792 --> 00:38:10,492
S2: since I've been a professional. And, um, you know, I've

807
00:38:10,492 --> 00:38:12,142
S2: been out there a couple of times already this week.

808
00:38:12,142 --> 00:38:14,602
S2: It's just. Yeah, it's pretty close to home. They've got

809
00:38:14,632 --> 00:38:17,002
S2: good facilities. It's a great golf course to play in.

810
00:38:17,002 --> 00:38:21,442
S2: It's cool to be able to do it round Royal Auckland.

811
00:38:21,472 --> 00:38:24,082
S2: I think it's it's also great for them because it's

812
00:38:24,082 --> 00:38:27,562
S2: something different. It's probably not something that they ten years

813
00:38:27,562 --> 00:38:32,272
S2: ago would have been interested in hosting. And obviously me

814
00:38:32,272 --> 00:38:34,942
S2: being a member for so long and, um, you know,

815
00:38:34,972 --> 00:38:39,832
S2: having a profile in the game helps that. But it's also,

816
00:38:40,642 --> 00:38:45,022
S2: you know, they're trying to, you know, change the perception

817
00:38:45,052 --> 00:38:47,482
S2: a little bit around, around them as a, as a

818
00:38:47,512 --> 00:38:51,022
S2: golf course. And you know, with that and it's showing

819
00:38:51,052 --> 00:38:53,152
S2: in the membership as well actually at the moment there's

820
00:38:53,152 --> 00:38:56,992
S2: a lot of younger, you know, a lot of juniors

821
00:38:56,992 --> 00:38:59,602
S2: coming in and a lot of sort of my age

822
00:38:59,602 --> 00:39:03,052
S2: and younger coming in to, to become members, which the

823
00:39:03,082 --> 00:39:08,392
S2: golf's gone crazy probably since Covid in that respect.

824
00:39:08,422 --> 00:39:09,472
S1: Good point. I agree.

825
00:39:09,502 --> 00:39:09,892
S3: A lot.

826
00:39:09,922 --> 00:39:15,172
S2: Of a lot of Younger people and I, you know, younger,

827
00:39:15,202 --> 00:39:18,892
S2: probably under 40 have picked the game up, um, and

828
00:39:18,892 --> 00:39:21,502
S2: are playing consistently over the last like 3 or 4

829
00:39:21,502 --> 00:39:25,072
S2: years and it's, and it's stuck as well.

830
00:39:25,072 --> 00:39:26,032
S3: Which is cool. Yeah.

831
00:39:26,032 --> 00:39:28,852
S1: There's something in that because, um, I wonder if it's

832
00:39:28,852 --> 00:39:32,032
S1: an outdoors thing, um, or just getting together with a

833
00:39:32,032 --> 00:39:35,962
S1: few mates or something, because we've noticed it in big time. Um,

834
00:39:35,962 --> 00:39:38,542
S1: the hunting community will tell you this. The fishing community

835
00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:41,632
S1: will tell you this, um, and the golfing community is

836
00:39:41,632 --> 00:39:44,752
S1: telling us that as well. That sort of post-Covid. Jeez,

837
00:39:44,752 --> 00:39:47,872
S1: that was scary. Let's make sure we can still connect

838
00:39:47,872 --> 00:39:50,662
S1: with our mates and be able to get outside and

839
00:39:50,662 --> 00:39:52,342
S1: just do stuff, you know?

840
00:39:52,462 --> 00:39:56,902
S2: Yeah, I think it was like, yeah, I mean, golf

841
00:39:56,902 --> 00:39:58,972
S2: was one of those few sports you were allowed to.

842
00:39:59,002 --> 00:39:59,992
S3: Do right.

843
00:40:00,142 --> 00:40:03,172
S2: During Covid because it was seen as seen as safe.

844
00:40:03,202 --> 00:40:05,212
S2: You could play with your mate and be five metres

845
00:40:05,212 --> 00:40:08,632
S2: away from them out in the big field. And, you know,

846
00:40:09,322 --> 00:40:12,032
S2: you theoretically would have been safe. I mean.

847
00:40:12,062 --> 00:40:12,662
S3: In hindsight.

848
00:40:12,662 --> 00:40:13,262
S2: We definitely were.

849
00:40:13,292 --> 00:40:15,662
S3: Safe. But, hey, um, you know.

850
00:40:16,322 --> 00:40:21,392
S2: It's, uh, like. And then I think people picked up

851
00:40:21,392 --> 00:40:23,432
S2: on the fact. Well, hey, look, I can go around here,

852
00:40:23,432 --> 00:40:27,452
S2: I can. It's four hours talking. Stick with your mates.

853
00:40:27,482 --> 00:40:30,512
S2: It doesn't matter the level that you're at with the

854
00:40:30,542 --> 00:40:35,912
S2: handicapping system, it kind of evens everyone out. You know, you, like,

855
00:40:35,912 --> 00:40:38,132
S2: I can have a match against the 30 handicapper, and

856
00:40:38,132 --> 00:40:42,032
S2: as long as his handicaps are relatively accurate, we can

857
00:40:42,182 --> 00:40:44,762
S2: we can actually have a competitive game. And there's not

858
00:40:44,762 --> 00:40:46,412
S2: many other sports that you can do that.

859
00:40:46,442 --> 00:40:47,432
S3: No, not at all.

860
00:40:47,462 --> 00:40:51,092
S2: And it's and it's also one that, you know, it's

861
00:40:51,332 --> 00:40:53,942
S2: you can you can go out and have a couple

862
00:40:53,972 --> 00:40:56,912
S2: of beers while you're doing it. You can it's encouraged

863
00:40:56,912 --> 00:40:59,492
S2: to go to the bar afterwards and have a beer

864
00:40:59,522 --> 00:41:02,522
S2: with your mates. And I'm not encouraging drinking in any

865
00:41:02,522 --> 00:41:04,292
S2: respect for that, but it's the social.

866
00:41:04,292 --> 00:41:07,172
S3: Side of it. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, it's.

867
00:41:07,712 --> 00:41:14,362
S2: And it's exercise without the chance of a pretty serious injury.

868
00:41:14,392 --> 00:41:16,462
S2: You know, if you're trying to play footy as a

869
00:41:16,552 --> 00:41:20,572
S2: mid to late 30s, like you've got to be pretty

870
00:41:20,572 --> 00:41:23,392
S2: committed to that. Whether it's whether it's soccer or whether

871
00:41:23,392 --> 00:41:27,442
S2: it's rugby, like, you know, you've got a pretty decent

872
00:41:27,442 --> 00:41:30,202
S2: chance of pulling something, you've got a pretty decent chance

873
00:41:30,202 --> 00:41:32,272
S2: of a knee injury, a concussion, whatever.

874
00:41:32,302 --> 00:41:32,902
S3: Yeah.

875
00:41:33,562 --> 00:41:35,362
S2: You have to be pretty unlucky in golf for any

876
00:41:35,362 --> 00:41:36,142
S2: of that to happen.

877
00:41:36,172 --> 00:41:36,952
S3: Very.

878
00:41:37,552 --> 00:41:40,312
S2: And I think that's that's kind of the beauty of it.

879
00:41:40,312 --> 00:41:43,252
S2: And people were starting to figure that out. And the

880
00:41:43,252 --> 00:41:45,502
S2: other great thing about it is once you pick it up,

881
00:41:45,502 --> 00:41:48,172
S2: it's a game for life. Like it's not you know,

882
00:41:48,202 --> 00:41:51,292
S2: we've there's we've got plenty of members at our golf

883
00:41:51,292 --> 00:41:53,302
S2: club that are playing well into their 80s. And I'd

884
00:41:53,302 --> 00:41:56,992
S2: say every golf club in the country would have the same.

885
00:41:57,142 --> 00:42:01,822
S2: And yeah, there's unless you want to pick up bowls

886
00:42:01,822 --> 00:42:03,772
S2: or something, there's not many other sports you can do

887
00:42:03,772 --> 00:42:04,372
S2: that in either.

888
00:42:04,402 --> 00:42:06,862
S1: Yeah, exactly. No, it's a really good point, actually. One

889
00:42:06,862 --> 00:42:08,392
S1: of my lads just took it up when he was

890
00:42:08,392 --> 00:42:12,592
S1: about 17. And. Yeah, absolutely. Just just loves it. Now, um,

891
00:42:12,592 --> 00:42:12,982
S1: you know.

892
00:42:13,432 --> 00:42:15,142
S2: A lot of my mates I went to school with

893
00:42:15,172 --> 00:42:19,522
S2: who weren't interested at all, even though our school was

894
00:42:20,002 --> 00:42:22,972
S2: like a fence away from a golf course. And you

895
00:42:22,972 --> 00:42:26,062
S2: could join. You could join for 150 bucks back then,

896
00:42:26,332 --> 00:42:28,012
S2: you know, no one took it up. No one took

897
00:42:28,042 --> 00:42:30,292
S2: up membership. Basically. There was obviously there was a few.

898
00:42:30,292 --> 00:42:33,562
S2: But now that, like pretty much all my mates have

899
00:42:33,562 --> 00:42:37,552
S2: picked up golf in the last ten years, like, you know,

900
00:42:37,582 --> 00:42:41,482
S2: and with no interest before that. And yeah, they love it. Yeah.

901
00:42:41,662 --> 00:42:44,602
S2: And it's yeah they'll, they'll continue to play it like,

902
00:42:44,632 --> 00:42:45,952
S2: you know, they've all got young kids and all of

903
00:42:45,982 --> 00:42:47,752
S2: that stuff. They don't get to play it very often

904
00:42:47,782 --> 00:42:50,302
S2: like me with fishing, but they still absolutely love it

905
00:42:50,302 --> 00:42:51,712
S2: when they get a chance to go out and do it.

906
00:42:51,742 --> 00:42:54,172
S1: Absolutely. And that's the beauty of it. I think you've yeah,

907
00:42:54,202 --> 00:42:57,112
S1: you've you've hit on some really good points there. Um,

908
00:42:57,112 --> 00:43:00,052
S1: so for details then for chasing the fox of people, um,

909
00:43:00,052 --> 00:43:01,702
S1: because it's obviously open to the public, it's going to

910
00:43:01,702 --> 00:43:05,812
S1: be on TV, there's still some tickets around or I

911
00:43:05,812 --> 00:43:08,452
S1: know the VIP stuff. I think the VIP stuff.

912
00:43:08,872 --> 00:43:10,732
S3: Is sold out. Yeah, I'm pretty.

913
00:43:10,732 --> 00:43:12,532
S2: Sure they're still GA. Yeah.

914
00:43:12,562 --> 00:43:12,832
S3: I'm.

915
00:43:14,122 --> 00:43:16,972
S2: Um. I'm useless with this stuff, so. Nick Randall from

916
00:43:16,972 --> 00:43:19,342
S2: POTUS is the guy that's running the cutter on the

917
00:43:19,342 --> 00:43:19,822
S2: whole thing.

918
00:43:19,852 --> 00:43:22,222
S3: Just Google it, right? You'll find out. Just Google it.

919
00:43:22,252 --> 00:43:27,322
S2: Chasing the fox. Uh, rural Auckland, the 13th of December,

920
00:43:27,322 --> 00:43:29,302
S2: which is a Friday, unfortunately.

921
00:43:29,542 --> 00:43:31,192
S3: Um. And.

922
00:43:31,402 --> 00:43:36,982
S2: Yeah, like, yeah, I think it off around six, just

923
00:43:36,982 --> 00:43:39,352
S2: after six. And then I think we kind of go

924
00:43:39,382 --> 00:43:42,262
S2: live into TVNZ after the news, but I'm pretty sure

925
00:43:42,262 --> 00:43:46,642
S2: they're cutting through the news to a few stories as well. Again,

926
00:43:47,032 --> 00:43:48,652
S2: I don't need to be on top of any of

927
00:43:48,652 --> 00:43:50,542
S2: that stuff. There's, you know, you.

928
00:43:50,542 --> 00:43:51,412
S3: Get enough to worry about.

929
00:43:51,712 --> 00:43:53,902
S2: That stuff's far too hard to organise. I just whack

930
00:43:53,932 --> 00:43:54,712
S2: a white ball around.

931
00:43:55,342 --> 00:43:57,412
S3: Decent at it. Yeah. Um, so, yeah.

932
00:43:57,412 --> 00:43:59,662
S2: It'll be a lot of fun. And I hope, you know,

933
00:43:59,692 --> 00:44:02,782
S2: we can show that we're going to have a lot

934
00:44:02,812 --> 00:44:04,522
S2: of different levels of golf. You know, there's a few

935
00:44:04,522 --> 00:44:10,552
S2: really good Celebrity golfers playing, um, and there's a few

936
00:44:10,582 --> 00:44:12,292
S2: pretty awful celebrity golfers.

937
00:44:13,102 --> 00:44:13,822
S3: And.

938
00:44:13,822 --> 00:44:17,062
S2: There's and there's in the middle. But as long like,

939
00:44:17,092 --> 00:44:19,792
S2: you know, I think everyone will enjoy it. It'll be

940
00:44:19,792 --> 00:44:22,102
S2: a bit of fun. And, you know, fair play to

941
00:44:22,132 --> 00:44:25,972
S2: those guys for putting themselves out there. Um, it's, uh,

942
00:44:27,502 --> 00:44:31,852
S2: it's pretty hard to do like playing golf in front

943
00:44:31,852 --> 00:44:34,852
S2: of people. And if it's not, what you do is intimidating.

944
00:44:34,882 --> 00:44:37,552
S2: You know, people are very close. That golf ball moves

945
00:44:37,552 --> 00:44:40,312
S2: pretty fast. And there's a there is a thought in

946
00:44:40,312 --> 00:44:42,082
S2: the back of your head that I could actually seriously

947
00:44:42,112 --> 00:44:44,662
S2: hurt someone here, and that's pretty hard to get over.

948
00:44:44,662 --> 00:44:47,422
S2: And so, yeah, fair play for everyone for putting themselves

949
00:44:47,422 --> 00:44:49,492
S2: out there and being a part of it. And you know,

950
00:44:49,522 --> 00:44:51,982
S2: all we can hope for is some decent weather. Um,

951
00:44:52,402 --> 00:44:54,322
S2: and if we get that, I think it'll be a

952
00:44:54,322 --> 00:44:54,892
S2: great afternoon.

953
00:44:54,922 --> 00:44:56,542
S1: Yeah, I think it will be as well. Um. I'll

954
00:44:56,542 --> 00:44:59,152
S1: be I'll definitely be tuning into it. Um, the just

955
00:44:59,152 --> 00:45:01,042
S1: one last thing before we let you go. And you

956
00:45:01,042 --> 00:45:04,132
S1: can watch the afternoon session of the cricket, um, is

957
00:45:04,132 --> 00:45:06,952
S1: the kind of what would you call them a YouTube

958
00:45:06,982 --> 00:45:10,522
S1: golfers now like in relation to young people picking it

959
00:45:10,522 --> 00:45:13,912
S1: up as well? You can't discount the social media aspect

960
00:45:13,912 --> 00:45:14,752
S1: in all of this.

961
00:45:14,782 --> 00:45:17,962
S2: Yeah, that's true, and I'm old enough that I don't

962
00:45:17,962 --> 00:45:18,682
S2: get it.

963
00:45:18,892 --> 00:45:20,752
S3: If that makes sense. You mean it makes perfect.

964
00:45:20,752 --> 00:45:21,982
S1: Sense to me? Let me tell you.

965
00:45:22,012 --> 00:45:23,272
S3: Yeah. Like.

966
00:45:24,082 --> 00:45:27,292
S2: Yeah, I'm, I'm I'm still of the generation that like,

967
00:45:27,292 --> 00:45:29,782
S2: I watch YouTube and stuff. I watch fishing videos and

968
00:45:29,782 --> 00:45:33,262
S2: music videos and stuff on YouTube. But, you know, I

969
00:45:33,292 --> 00:45:36,022
S2: grew up watching live sport and wanting to watch the

970
00:45:36,022 --> 00:45:38,332
S2: best do it. And I still want to do that.

971
00:45:38,332 --> 00:45:43,552
S2: And I find it strange that people get their content

972
00:45:43,552 --> 00:45:47,752
S2: that way. And, you know, guys that potentially haven't been

973
00:45:47,752 --> 00:45:52,972
S2: tour pros have a far bigger following than the majority

974
00:45:52,972 --> 00:45:53,632
S2: of the tour.

975
00:45:53,692 --> 00:45:53,962
S3: Mhm.

976
00:45:54,202 --> 00:45:56,962
S2: Um, and it's, I think it's just the world we

977
00:45:56,962 --> 00:45:58,522
S2: live in at the moment. And look, a lot of

978
00:45:58,522 --> 00:46:00,562
S2: these guys are good players too. I'm not saying that.

979
00:46:00,562 --> 00:46:03,772
S2: And a lot of the guys create some great content

980
00:46:03,812 --> 00:46:07,622
S2: in that respect. It's. Yeah, it's that's just how young

981
00:46:07,622 --> 00:46:13,202
S2: people see the world now through through social media and,

982
00:46:13,232 --> 00:46:18,242
S2: you know, YouTube and that kind of stuff. Um, I

983
00:46:18,242 --> 00:46:20,102
S2: just feel like my old man did 20 years ago

984
00:46:20,102 --> 00:46:22,142
S2: when I was first picking up the game, and he

985
00:46:22,142 --> 00:46:23,852
S2: was trying to work stuff out on his computer and

986
00:46:23,852 --> 00:46:27,422
S2: bashing his keyboard when shit didn't work. Like, that's just

987
00:46:27,452 --> 00:46:29,852
S2: I'm at that now. I like there's some stuff I

988
00:46:29,852 --> 00:46:33,572
S2: just don't understand and, and sort of social media as

989
00:46:33,572 --> 00:46:37,022
S2: part of it. Like my social media from a golf

990
00:46:37,022 --> 00:46:40,202
S2: point of view is terrible, but I feel really uncomfortable

991
00:46:40,202 --> 00:46:45,722
S2: doing it. And the younger generation obviously don't. And they're really,

992
00:46:45,722 --> 00:46:48,812
S2: really good at it and they create some great stuff.

993
00:46:48,872 --> 00:46:51,572
S2: I just find like it's just not me. But it's

994
00:46:51,572 --> 00:46:53,252
S2: cool that those guys are going to be a part

995
00:46:53,252 --> 00:46:57,062
S2: of it, and that's going to help bring in the younger,

996
00:46:57,092 --> 00:46:58,292
S2: younger viewers.

997
00:46:58,322 --> 00:47:00,542
S1: We're cut from the same cloth there, brother, let me

998
00:47:00,542 --> 00:47:01,082
S1: tell you.

999
00:47:01,112 --> 00:47:02,692
S3: Um, yeah. And like, it's not.

1000
00:47:02,722 --> 00:47:04,132
S2: It's not a criticism of them.

1001
00:47:04,162 --> 00:47:07,012
S3: Totally. Not at all. It's it's their world. Yeah.

1002
00:47:07,042 --> 00:47:11,902
S2: I just it's just, I don't, I just, I yeah,

1003
00:47:11,932 --> 00:47:14,182
S2: I just like the old school live sport. I'm old

1004
00:47:14,182 --> 00:47:16,972
S2: in that regard. And I don't think I'll ever change.

1005
00:47:17,002 --> 00:47:19,342
S1: Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you there. And at the end

1006
00:47:19,342 --> 00:47:21,292
S1: of the day, the thing is, you've still got to get, like,

1007
00:47:21,322 --> 00:47:23,512
S1: your tour card, right? You know as well. I mean,

1008
00:47:23,542 --> 00:47:25,252
S1: there's no shortcut to to that.

1009
00:47:25,282 --> 00:47:25,822
S3: Yeah. Yeah.

1010
00:47:25,852 --> 00:47:29,602
S2: And yeah, you've, you've got, you've still got to be

1011
00:47:29,602 --> 00:47:32,692
S2: good to do what those guys are doing. And you

1012
00:47:32,692 --> 00:47:38,362
S2: just like some of them are tour level golf with

1013
00:47:38,392 --> 00:47:41,572
S2: tour level golf games that do it. And then some

1014
00:47:41,572 --> 00:47:47,632
S2: of them have just amazing ideas for creating content. And,

1015
00:47:47,662 --> 00:47:49,402
S2: you know, the guys that do say the trick shots

1016
00:47:49,402 --> 00:47:53,752
S2: and stuff like that, just amazing, amazing patience and creativity

1017
00:47:53,752 --> 00:47:57,052
S2: to think about those things and then do it for

1018
00:47:57,052 --> 00:47:59,392
S2: hours on end, to be able to try to do it,

1019
00:47:59,392 --> 00:48:01,282
S2: and the skill level to do some of them is

1020
00:48:01,282 --> 00:48:05,842
S2: seriously impressive as well. Like it's just a it's a

1021
00:48:05,842 --> 00:48:09,142
S2: slightly different skill set than what tour golf is. But

1022
00:48:09,172 --> 00:48:12,352
S2: it's not a it's it's still golf and it's still great.

1023
00:48:12,352 --> 00:48:15,682
S2: And it's getting young people into the game and that's cool.

1024
00:48:15,712 --> 00:48:18,292
S2: Like we want that. The more the more people involved

1025
00:48:18,292 --> 00:48:21,202
S2: in golf, the better golf is. Doesn't matter how they

1026
00:48:21,202 --> 00:48:23,452
S2: get into it 100%.

1027
00:48:23,482 --> 00:48:25,582
S1: Um, well, there's no point in asking you social media

1028
00:48:25,582 --> 00:48:27,232
S1: handles then. Um, but, uh.

1029
00:48:27,232 --> 00:48:29,722
S3: I know them. You know them? Yeah, just Ryan.

1030
00:48:29,722 --> 00:48:30,322
S2: Fox, golfer.

1031
00:48:30,352 --> 00:48:30,862
S3: They're all. There you.

1032
00:48:30,892 --> 00:48:34,492
S1: Go. Ryan Fox, golfer. Just search that wherever you want.

1033
00:48:34,522 --> 00:48:35,632
S3: And I'm.

1034
00:48:35,632 --> 00:48:38,242
S2: No good on Twitter or X or.

1035
00:48:38,242 --> 00:48:40,342
S3: Whatever the hell. Um.

1036
00:48:40,822 --> 00:48:42,322
S2: Yeah, I barely look at that.

1037
00:48:42,352 --> 00:48:42,592
S3: Yeah.

1038
00:48:43,072 --> 00:48:46,192
S2: And I'm a little bit better on Instagram and Facebook, so.

1039
00:48:46,222 --> 00:48:50,422
S1: Yeah, fair enough too. Um, chasing the Fox, December 13th.

1040
00:48:50,452 --> 00:48:53,392
S1: Get along. Watch it on TV. Um, all the best

1041
00:48:53,392 --> 00:48:56,722
S1: with the hip, the tour, everything you got going on. Um,

1042
00:48:56,722 --> 00:48:58,402
S1: and thanks for so much of your time as well, man.

1043
00:48:58,432 --> 00:48:59,152
S1: Really appreciate.

1044
00:48:59,152 --> 00:48:59,872
S3: It. No problem.

1045
00:48:59,872 --> 00:49:00,922
S2: Enjoy the chat, Don.