WEBVTT - Remake World

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<v Speaker 1>Darling,  you  should marry some lovely accomplished girl  who  adores  you.  Someone-

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<v Speaker 2>Someone  who  would  grace  your  beautiful  home  and  give  you 

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of  life  you  really  want,  I  wouldn't.

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<v Jo>Oh  Teddy,  I'm  not  fashionable  enough  for  London.  You  need 

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<v Jo>someone  who's  elegant and refined.

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<v Teddy>[inaudible 00:00:20].

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<v Jo>Look at me, I'm homely  and  I'm  awkward  and  I'm  odd.

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<v Teddy>I  love  you, Jo.

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<v Jo>And  you'd  be  ashamed  of  me.

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<v Teddy>I love you, Jo.

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<v Jo>And  we  would  quarrel  because  we  can't  help  it  even  now.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>That  was  Jo  March,  the  heroine  of  the  classic  film, 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Little  Women,  as  played  by  the  great  Katherine  Hepburn,  1933, 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>and  the  great  June  Allyson,  1949,  and  the  great  Winona 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Ryder,  1994,  and  the  great  Saoirse  Ronan,  in  2019.  You 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>get  the  idea.  Louisa  May  Alcott's  story  of  four  sisters 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>coming  of  age  in  19th  century  New  England,  may  not 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>seem  like  the  freshest  subject,  yet  for  generations,  people  have 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>flocked  to  theaters  to  form  a  new  connection  with  the 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>irresistibly  charming  March  family.  The  success  of  the  latest  cinematic 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>version  of  Little  Women,  directed  by  Greta  Gerwig,  is  a 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>testament  to  the  power  of  the  story  itself.  And  it's 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>also  a  great  starting  place  for  a  conversation  about  the 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>art  of  the  remake.  How  do  you  create  something  vital 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>and  contemporary,  when  you're  telling  a  tale  that's  been  told 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>so  many  times  before?  Today,  we're  going  to  find  out. 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>I'm  your  host,  Natasha  Gargiulo.  Welcome  to  Hello  movies.
 As 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>together  we  face  these  unprecedented  times  when  theaters  being  temporarily 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>closed  is  the  least  of  our  worries,  we  could  all 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>use  a  little  diversion.  So  today,  we're  going  to  turn 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>our  attention  to  the  idea  of  movie  remakes,  many  of 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>which  you  can  watch  at  home  on  the  Cineplex  Store. 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>From  the  live  action  Disney  remakes  like  the  Lion  King 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>and  Aladdin,  to  films  like  Little  Women  and  A  Star 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Is  Born,  remakes  have  really  risen  up  and  connected  with 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>audiences  in  a  big  way  over  the  last  few  years. 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>It  doesn't  look  like  that  trend  is  going  to  slow 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>down,  with  remakes  of  classic  films  like  West  Side  Story, 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Dune,  Candyman  and  many  more  set  to  hit  theaters  in 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>2020.  To  discuss  the  evolution  of  remake  culture  and  to 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>look  ahead  to  some  of  the  most  exciting  remakes  coming 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>down  the  pipe,  I'm  joined  today  by  two  great  guests.


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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Chandler  Levack  is  an  award  winning  writer,  journalist,  and  filmmaker. 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Her  writing  on  film  can  be  found  in  The  Globe 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>and  Mail  and  on  CBC.  In  2017,  her  short  film, 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>We  Forgot  To  Break  Up,  premiered  at  the  Toronto  International 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Film  Festival  and  South  by  Southwest.  Sal  Patel  is  the 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>managing  editor  of  Shopify  Studios  in  Toronto.  Prior  to  that, 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>he  was  the  managing  content  producer  at  the  Toronto  International 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Film  Festivals,  digital  studio.  Sal  and  Chandler,  welcome  to  Hello  Movies.

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<v Chandler Levick>Thank  you  so  much.

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<v Sal Patel>Thank  you.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Like  all  types  of  films,  some  remakes  are  great  and 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>some  aren't  so  great.  So,  can  you  give  me  an 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>example  of  a  recent  remake  that  you  loved,  and  why 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>this  particular  iteration  works  so  well  for  you?

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<v Chandler Levick>I  love  the  Little  Women  remake  that...  Or  no,  I 

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<v Chandler Levick>guess,  re- adaptation  that  Greta  Gerwig  did,  that  was  released 

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<v Chandler Levick>in  December.  I  thought  it  was  just  so  astutely  made. 

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<v Chandler Levick>And  every  element  of  it,  was  so  considered.  And  even 

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<v Chandler Levick>though  there's  been  seven  adaptations  of  Little  Women  over  the 

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<v Chandler Levick>last  hundred  years,  this  was  a  remake  that  felt  like 

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<v Chandler Levick>utterly  necessary.  And  even  though  it's  a  period  piece,  also 

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<v Chandler Levick>felt  like  incredibly  urgent  and  modern.

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<v Sal Patel>Yeah,  I  would  agree.  I  love  that  Little  Women  remake. 

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<v Sal Patel>For  me,  a  remake  from  maybe  a  few  years  ago, 

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<v Sal Patel>is  Mad  Max:  Fury  Road.

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<v Max>My  name  is  Max.

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<v Sal Patel>And  I  really  love  that  one  because  I  think  it 

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<v Sal Patel>most  effectively  demonstrates  for  me  what  makes  it  worth  it 

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<v Sal Patel>to  remake  a  film  or  revisit  an  established  universe.  And 

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<v Sal Patel>for  me  with  Mad  Max:  Fury  Road,  what  that  is... 

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<v Sal Patel>It's  a  transfer  of  power  that  exists  in the  universe.  So, 

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<v Sal Patel>the  original  Mad  Max  is  about  the  character  of  Max, 

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<v Sal Patel>and  the  Fury  Road  is  about  the  character  Furiosa  and 

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<v Sal Patel>about  the  women  in  this  universe.

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<v Speaker 3>And  how  exactly  do  we  take  the  Citadel?  Assuming  we're 

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<v Speaker 3>still  alive  by  then.

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<v Speaker 4>If  we  can  block  the  pass,  it'll  be  easy.

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<v Sal Patel>It  just  totally  transfers  the  power  and  it  makes  it 

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<v Sal Patel>really  interesting.  That  it's...  We're  still  in  this  universe  and 

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<v Sal Patel>we're  still  playing  with  some  of  the  ideas  introduced  in 

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<v Sal Patel>the  original  films,  but  in  a  totally  different  and  fresh 

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<v Sal Patel>and  important  way.  It  feels  worth  it  to  revisit  this 

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<v Sal Patel>world  for  that  reason  around  the  transfer of  power.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Chandler,  speaking  of  Little  Women,  I  saw  a  lot  of 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>grumpy  comments  when  the  first  trailer  came  out.  Do  we 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>really  need  another  Little  Women?  And  I  don't  think  this 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>was  even  necessarily  a  dig  at  how  the  film  looked. 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>It  was  mainly  just  people  who  loved  Lady  Bird,  and 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>wanted  to  see  Gerwig  follow  it  up  with  another  original 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>story.  So,  how  valid  is  that  attitude?

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<v Chandler Levick>I  think  when  a  filmmaker  proves  the  reason...  I  mean, 

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<v Chandler Levick>when  you  watch  that  movie,  I  think  you  understand  why 

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<v Chandler Levick>there's  a  need.  When  she  so  carefully...  Every  aspect  of 

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<v Chandler Levick>that  film,  from  the  score  to  the  production  design  to 

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<v Chandler Levick>the  actors,  it's  so  deeply  considered  and  multi- villain  and 

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<v Chandler Levick>beautiful.  And  she  kind  of  really  unpacked  the  text  and 

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<v Chandler Levick>kind  of  found  a  way  to  excavate  it  and  transcend 

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<v Chandler Levick>it.  So,  I  think  when  it's  a  great  filmmaker...  I 

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<v Chandler Levick>mean,  there  are  certain  filmmakers  I  would  watch  them  remake 

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<v Chandler Levick>anything.  Great  filmmakers  justify  the  story  by  making  the  story 

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<v Chandler Levick>into  art.

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<v Sal Patel>Yeah.  I  think  with  Greta  Gerwig,  just  given  the  trajectory 

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<v Sal Patel>of  the  film  industry  these  days,  if  she  followed  up 

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<v Sal Patel>Lady  Bird  with  a  film  of  that  size  and  scale 

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<v Sal Patel>and  budget,  there's  a  good  chance  that  film  wouldn't  have 

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<v Sal Patel>gotten  a  chance  to  play  at  theaters  and  certainly  not 

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<v Sal Patel>broadly.  Whereas,  because  she  made  Little  Women,  it  had  a 

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<v Sal Patel>Christmas  Day  release,  and  it  became  this  family  event  for 

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<v Sal Patel>people  to  see  over  the  holidays.  And  her  take,  her 

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<v Sal Patel>point  of  view,  like  Chandler  was  saying,  absolutely  necessitated  this 

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<v Sal Patel>remake.  Where  she  brought  something  totally  new  and  fresh  to 

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<v Sal Patel>it,  which  was  so  cool  to  see.  But  then,  it's 

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<v Sal Patel>also...  That  sensibility  is  on  display  for  such  a  broad 

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<v Sal Patel>audience,  the  biggest  audience  that  she's  ever  had  in  her 

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<v Sal Patel>career.  So  I think  that  alone  is...  Makes  it  so  worth 

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<v Sal Patel>it.  Because  a  storyteller  who  is  so  unique  and  such 

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<v Sal Patel>a  voice  of  a  generation  like Greta  Gerwig,  is  being  seen 

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<v Sal Patel>on  that  level  all  of  a  sudden

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Now,  a  lot  of  the  best  remakes  seem  to  succeed 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>in  finding  a  way  to  make  a  classic  story  feel 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>modern.  And  sometimes,  that's  done  by  being  fairly  liberal  with 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>the  source  material.  That  said,  there  are  always  some  folks 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>who  look  at  the  original  text  as  sacred  and  don't 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>want  the  new  version  to  diverge  too  much.  Chandler,  I'm 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>wondering,  where  do  you  stand  on  this?

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<v Chandler Levick>I  mean,  I  understand  that  some  texts  are  very  canonical 

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<v Chandler Levick>and  we  hold  them  in  high  regard  for  a  reason 

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<v Chandler Levick>and  some  movies  in  their  cannon  or  even  if  they're 

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<v Chandler Levick>really  well  loved  book  or  a  TV  show  or  some 

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<v Chandler Levick>kind  of...  Or  a  film  that  is  just  really  wonderful 

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<v Chandler Levick>that  a  filmmaker  is  done  before,  it's  hard  for  us 

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<v Chandler Levick>to  kind  of  see  it  adapt  and  change.  But  if 

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<v Chandler Levick>a  movie  is  great,  I  think  people  can  forgive  a 

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<v Chandler Levick>lot  of  creative  license.  I'm  sure  there  will  always  be 

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<v Chandler Levick>purists.  Remember  when  they  remade  Ghostbusters  with  all  women  and 

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<v Chandler Levick>it  kind  of  premeditated  the  US  election?

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Yes.

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<v Chandler Levick>But  for  me,  I  want  to  see  new  forms  of 

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<v Chandler Levick>art  and  people  revisit  it  and  something  like  Ghostbusters  done 

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<v Chandler Levick>with  the  totally  radical  gays  on  it,  I  think  that's exciting. 

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<v Chandler Levick>And  as  culture  evolves,  we're  going  to  want  to  see 

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<v Chandler Levick>new  intersections  into  the  stories  that  we  know,  I  think.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Sal,  how  about  your  thoughts?

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<v Sal Patel>Yeah,  it's  tricky  for  me.  There's  certain  worlds  and  established 

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<v Sal Patel>IP  or  stories,  whatever,  that  I'm  very  attached  to  the 

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<v Sal Patel>way  that  they  were  presented  originally,  things  that  I  watched 

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<v Sal Patel>as  a  kid.  That  when  I've  seen  more  recent  adaptations 

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<v Sal Patel>of  it,  I'm  like, " Yeah,  they  got  this  wrong."  So, 

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<v Sal Patel>one  example  for  me  was,  I  watched  Aladdin  a  lot 

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<v Sal Patel>as  a  kid,  I  loved  Aladdin.  It  was  the  first 

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<v Sal Patel>time  that  I'd  seen  any  animation  with  people  who  had 

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<v Sal Patel>the  same  skin  color  as  me  on  screen.  And  I 

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<v Sal Patel>was  just  excited  by  that  idea,  I  think.  And  the 

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<v Sal Patel>world  that  it  portrayed  and  that...  It  had...  Being  South 

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<v Sal Patel>Asian.  That  there  was  references  to  the  Middle  East  and 

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<v Sal Patel>South  Asia  and  that  kind  of  thing  in  it.
 And 

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<v Sal Patel>so,  when  I  saw  the  new  Aladdin's  trailer,  I  was  like, "

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<v Sal Patel>Why  did  they  change  the  color  palette?  Why  did  they 

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<v Sal Patel>make  the  outfits  different  in  this  way  or  that  way?" 

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<v Sal Patel>But  then  I  watched  it  and  I  actually  loved  it. 

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<v Sal Patel>I  thought  that  there  was  so  much  power  in  bringing 

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<v Sal Patel>it  to  life  with  actual  actors  and  actors  who  are 

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<v Sal Patel>from  the  part  of  the  world  that  the  movie  is 

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<v Sal Patel>meant  to  be  set  in,  and  they  still  maintain  all 

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<v Sal Patel>the  strong  points  of  the  story  and...  So...  I  mean, 

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<v Sal Patel>with  something  that  I  love,  I'm  willing  to  at  least 

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<v Sal Patel>give  the  artist  a  chance  to  see  what  their  point 

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<v Sal Patel>of  view  is.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Mm-hmm (affirmative).

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<v Sal Patel>But,  I  do  hold  on  to  the  original  ideas  very 

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<v Sal Patel>tightly  and  I...  It's  a  harder  sell  for  me  as 

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<v Sal Patel>an  audience  member.  I  need  to  be  really...  The  work 

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<v Sal Patel>needs  to  be  really  good,  I  guess,  for  me  to 

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<v Sal Patel>be  convinced  that  it  was  worth  it.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Okay.  So  there've  been  some  really  inspired  casting  decisions  of 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>late  in  some  of  the  new  remakes,  Dev  Patel  as 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>David  Copperfield,  for  example.  Or  the  very  fashion  forward  Billy 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Porter  playing  a  genderless  fairly  godmother  in  the  upcoming  Cinderella 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>remake.  I'm  wondering,  what  do  you  think  film  remakes  have 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>done  to  foster  representation  on  screen?

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<v Chandler Levick>Yeah.  Well,  I  think  we're  starting  to  see  more  gender 

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<v Chandler Levick>blind  and  color  blind  casting.  And  I  think  that  is 

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<v Chandler Levick>true.  I  think  if  you  grew  up  never  seeing  yourself 

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<v Chandler Levick>as  the  hero  of  your  own  story  and  you've  always 

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<v Chandler Levick>kind  of  had  to  read  yourself  into  these  classic  Disney 

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<v Chandler Levick>movies  or  musicals  that  we've  all  grown  up  watching,  there 

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<v Chandler Levick>is  something  really  exciting  about  finally  seeing  someone  who  you 

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<v Chandler Levick>can  relate  to,  playing  the  hero  of  a  really  well 

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<v Chandler Levick>loved  classic.  I  think  people  find  that  emotional.  And  then 

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<v Chandler Levick>I  think  other  people  have  a  hard  time  with  that, 

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<v Chandler Levick>because  it  is  kind  of  a  subversion  of  what  the 

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<v Chandler Levick>norm  is.  But,  I  think  there  needs  to  be  a 

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<v Chandler Levick>balance  as  well.  Because,  you  don't  want  to  just  see 

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<v Chandler Levick>so  many  remakes  of  these  movies  that  there  are  no 

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<v Chandler Levick>opportunities  for  filmmakers  to  tell  original  stories.  And  I  think 

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<v Chandler Levick>the  success  of  a  movie  like  Parasite,  goes  to  show 

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<v Chandler Levick>that there  is  room  and  enthusiasm  and  a  deep  hunger  for 

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<v Chandler Levick>really  just  amazing  lead  told  films.

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<v Sal Patel>Yeah,  I  totally  agree.  I  mean,  it  gets  back  to 

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<v Sal Patel>what  I  was  saying  about  Mad  Max:  Fury  Road.  Which 

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<v Sal Patel>is,  deciding  to  remake  a  film  and  revisit  a  universe 

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<v Sal Patel>or  a  story  with  that  idea  in  mind,  deciding  to 

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<v Sal Patel>transfer  power,  broaden  the  representation  of  people  on  screen  who 

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<v Sal Patel>weren't  represented  in  the  original  story,  is  so  powerful.  I 

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<v Sal Patel>mean,  there's  a  distance  that  exists  for  so  many  people 

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<v Sal Patel>who  are  left  out  of  these  stories  that  are  considered 

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<v Sal Patel>canonical  and  part  of  the  cannon.  And  I  think,  the 

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<v Sal Patel>power  of  cinema  for  me  is  so  much  in  the 

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<v Sal Patel>idea  that  we  have  a  chance  at  mass  culture  or 

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<v Sal Patel>monoculture  or  a  chance  at  sort  of  understanding  the  same 

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<v Sal Patel>thing  and  are  seeing  and  appreciating  the  same  thing.
 And 

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<v Sal Patel>that  becomes  more  and  more  possible,  when  more  people  relate 

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<v Sal Patel>to  the  idea  of a  movie.  They're  like, " Oh,  there's  a 

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<v Sal Patel>character  in  this  film  that  looks  or  sounds  like  me 

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<v Sal Patel>and  now  I  want  to  see  it.  And  now  I 

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<v Sal Patel>can  talk  to  more  people  in  the  world  about  it." 

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<v Sal Patel>And...  So  the  more  we  could  do  that  with  these 

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<v Sal Patel>blockbuster  type  works,  I  think  we  should  strive  for  it.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Okay.  We're  going  to  wrap  up  soon.  But  before  we 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>go,  I  want  to  get  your  rapid  fire  takes  on 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>a  few  big  name  remakes  coming  up  later  this  year. 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Chandler,  how  excited  are  you  for  Dune?

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<v Chandler Levick>I  think  you  saw  what  Denis  Villeneuve  was  capable  of 

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<v Chandler Levick>with  Blade  Runner  2049.  I  think  people  consider  the  David 

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<v Chandler Levick>Lynch,  doing  a  bit  of  a  failed  masterpiece.  So,  I 

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<v Chandler Levick>think  people  are  excited  about  this  maybe  getting...  Doing  right, 

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<v Chandler Levick>this  incredibly  difficult  to  adapt  novel.  The  cast  is  phenomenal. 

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<v Chandler Levick>And  I  think  he  just...  Denis  Villeneuve  is  such  a 

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<v Chandler Levick>visionary  director  that  seems  to  really  understand  how  to  make 

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<v Chandler Levick>a  sci- fi  movie  feel  both  incredibly  cinematic  and  deeply 

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<v Chandler Levick>relevant.  So,  I'm  stoked  for  Dune.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>So,  how  do  you  feel  when  I  say  the  Green  Knight?

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<v Sal Patel>Well,  I  already  know  what  my  Halloween  costume  is  going 

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<v Sal Patel>to  be  for  2020.

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<v Chandler Levick>Perfect,  (crosstalk)   time.

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<v Sal Patel>And...  I'm  super  excited about  it.  I  mean,  like  a  lot 

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<v Sal Patel>of  people  growing  up,  I  read  a  lot  of  stories 

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<v Sal Patel>about  King  Arthur  and  his  court.  And  the  Green  Knight's 

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<v Sal Patel>story  is  set  in  that  world.  And  I  love  that 

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<v Sal Patel>they  cast  up  Patel  for  it,  it's  just  a...  It's 

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<v Sal Patel>a  different  take.  And  A24  is  behind  it,  which  is 

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<v Sal Patel>always  a  great  sign  for  me.  And  David  Lowry,  who's 

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<v Sal Patel>directed  so  many  really  cool  movies,  A  Ghost  Story  being 

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<v Sal Patel>one  of  my  favorites  of  his,  I  think  the...  It's 

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<v Sal Patel>going  to  be  a  really  unexpected  take  on  this  world 

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<v Sal Patel>and  one  of  a  kind  look  at  King  Arthur's  court.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Chandler,  what  are  your  thoughts  on  Candyman?

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<v Speaker 5>Candyman,  the  urban  legend  is.  If  you  say  his  name 

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<v Speaker 5>five  times  while  looking  in  the  mirror,  he  appears  in 

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<v Speaker 5>the  reflection  and  kills  you.

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<v Speaker 6>Who  would do that?

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<v Chandler Levick>Yeah. I  mean,  Candyman  I  think  was  one  of...  A  really 

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<v Chandler Levick>seminal  horror  movie  that  I  remember  studying  in  university,  in 

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<v Chandler Levick>film  school.  And...  Always  kind  of  spoke  also  to  kind 

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<v Chandler Levick>of  black  lens  on  filmmaking  as  well.  And  I  think 

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<v Chandler Levick>this  new  film  that's  executive  produced  by  Jordan  Peele  and 

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<v Chandler Levick>has  this  amazing  female  director at  the  helm  and  such  an 

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<v Chandler Levick>amazing  trailer  with  a  perfect  use  of  a  (inaudible)  

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<v Chandler Levick>song,  really  just  goes  to  show  there's  exciting  and  really 

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<v Chandler Levick>innovative  ways  to  revamp  these  movies  that  actually  tap  into 

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<v Chandler Levick>what  the  culture  wants  to  see,  and  can...  These  movies 

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<v Chandler Levick>can  actually  lead  a  conversation  in  cinema,  as  opposed  to 

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<v Chandler Levick>just  being  kind  of  an  interesting  diversion  during  the  summer.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>This  is  a  movie  I  am  so  excited  about.  Sal, 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>tell  me  about  West  Side  Story.

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<v Sal Patel>Yeah. I  mean,  West  Side  Story  is  one  of  the  great 

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<v Sal Patel>movie  musicals  of  all  time.  And  now  we  have  Steven 

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<v Sal Patel>Spielberg,  one  of the  great  modern  film  makers...  One  of  the 

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<v Sal Patel>great  filmmakers,  period.  Who  is  going  to  be  remaking  it. 

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<v Sal Patel>I  think  that's  super  exciting  by  itself.  But  one  of 

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<v Sal Patel>the  things  that  I  know  that  he's  doing  is  that, 

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<v Sal Patel>when  he  looked  at  the  original,  he  said  to  himself 

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<v Sal Patel>that  it's  such  an  important  story  about  two  different  communities 

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<v Sal Patel>and  their  relationships  with  each  other.  And  when  the  original 

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<v Sal Patel>was  made,  the  Puerto  Ricans  in  the  film,  were  mostly 

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<v Sal Patel>played  by  white  actors  in  brown  skin.  And  it  was 

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<v Sal Patel>very  important  for  him  to  correct  that  casting  choice.  And 

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<v Sal Patel>so,  everybody  in  this  film  is  Latinx,  if  not  Puerto 

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<v Sal Patel>Rican.  And  I  think  that's  great.  It's  going  to  bring 

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<v Sal Patel>a  level  of  authenticity  to  the  storytelling.  And  it  also 

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<v Sal Patel>just  feels  like  such  a  vital  story  for  the  political 

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<v Sal Patel>time  that  we're  in,  in  the  US.  So,  I'm  really 

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<v Sal Patel>excited  for  that.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Yeah,  I'm  excited  for  that  too.  We've  talked  today  a 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>lot  about  great  film  remakes,  but  you  both  must  have 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>at  least  one  movie  that  you  would  never  want  to 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>see  remade  under  any  circumstances,  right?

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<v Chandler Levick>It's  hard  because  I  think  as  a  filmmaker,  I  get 

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<v Chandler Levick>really  excited  about  these  filmmaker...  Films  I  love  and  being  like, "

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<v Chandler Levick>Oh,  what  if  I  could  remake  Ghost  World?  Or..."  Say 

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<v Chandler Levick>anything.  Or  these  movies  that  mean  a  lot  to  me. 

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<v Chandler Levick>And  then,  it  is  a  tough  responsibility.  And  they're  remaking 

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<v Chandler Levick>everything.  They're  remaking  Gossip  Girl.  So,  sometimes  it  seems  like 

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<v Chandler Levick>a  fun  challenge,  but  I  also  feel  like  it's  a 

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<v Chandler Levick>big  burden  of  responsibility  to  do  it  well.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Sal,  do  you  have  a  movie  that  they  should  never 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>remake  under  any  circumstances?

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<v Sal Patel>Yeah.  I'll  throw  one  out  that  I  know  is  close 

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<v Sal Patel>to  Chandler's  heart  as  well.  Almost  Famous  is  a  movie 

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<v Sal Patel>that  I  think  is  perfect.

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<v Speaker 7>I  am  a  golden  god

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<v Sal Patel>And  I  love  it  and  I  don't  want  it  to 

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<v Sal Patel>ever  be  remade.  I  think  that,  the  way  that  it 

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<v Sal Patel>was  told,  came  from  such  a  personal  place  to  Cameron 

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<v Sal Patel>Crowe,  who  wrote  it  and  made  it.  And  it  was 

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<v Sal Patel>obviously  very  tied  to  his  own  story.  And...  So,  anyone 

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<v Sal Patel>remaking  it  would  obviously  not  be  close  to  the  source 

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<v Sal Patel>material  and  the  way  that  he  was.  And  all  the 

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<v Sal Patel>aesthetic  choices  that  were  made  for  it,  also  came  from 

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<v Sal Patel>such  a  personal  place.  So,  I  just...  I  can't  imagine 

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<v Sal Patel>that  a  movie  that  is  so  autobiographical  and  so  tied 

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<v Sal Patel>to  a  place  in  time  and  a  place  in  somebody's 

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<v Sal Patel>mind,  could  ever  be  remade  faithfully.  So,  leave  that  one 

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<v Sal Patel>alone.  Don't  ever  remake  Almost  Famous.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>And what  about  a  movie  that  you  think  should  be  remade 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>and  soon?

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<v Chandler Levick>Well...  I  mean,  I  give  it  up  to  one  of 

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<v Chandler Levick>my  other  favorite  movies,  The  Apartment  by  Billy  Wilder,  just 

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<v Chandler Levick>because  I  love  that  movie  so  much.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.  (inaudible)   I  get  too  close.

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<v Speaker 9>I  never  catch  colds.

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<v Speaker 8>Really?  I  was  reading  some  figures  from  the  sickness and actual claims division, do you know that  the 

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<v Speaker 8>average  New  Yorker  between  the  ages  of  20 and  50  has 

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<v Speaker 8>two  and  a  half  colds  a  year?

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<v Speaker 9>Mm-hmm (affirmative).  That  makes  me  feel  just  terrible.

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<v Speaker 8>Why?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, to  make  the  fingers  come  out  even  if  I  have 

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<v Speaker 9>no  colds  a  year,  or  some  poor  slob  must  have 

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<v Speaker 9>five  colds  a  year.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah,  it's  me.

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<v Speaker 9>Should've  stayed  in  bed  this  morning.

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<v Speaker 8>Should've  stayed  in  bed  last  night.

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<v Chandler Levick>And  it's  so  funny,  confessional,  amazing  screenplay,  and it  has  such 

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<v Chandler Levick>great  parts  for  actors.  And  I  that  it  has...  It 

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<v Chandler Levick>does  say  really  deep  things  about  capitalism  and  relationships  and 

0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.939
<v Chandler Levick>loneliness  and  isolation  in  a  big  city.  And  I  think 

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<v Chandler Levick>that  if  you  had  a  really  smart  director  who  really 

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<v Chandler Levick>could  do  it  justice,  it  would  be  great.  I  mean, 

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<v Chandler Levick>Jason  Reitman  did  a  reading  of  it,  the  screenplay  where 

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<v Chandler Levick>he  cast  Paul  Rudd  and  the  Jack  Lemmon  role  and 

0:18:10.919 --> 0:18:15.330
<v Chandler Levick>Emma  Stone  and  the  Hurley  McLean  role.  I  just  like 

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<v Chandler Levick>the  idea  of  classic  movies  that  maybe  an  audience  doesn't 

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<v Chandler Levick>know  about  from  the  '40s and '50s  getting  a  new  lease  on  life.

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<v Sal Patel>One  that  is  really  close  to  my  heart  that  I 

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<v Sal Patel>love  and  that  I've  watched  probably  more  than  any  other 

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<v Sal Patel>movie,  is  Good  Will  Hunting.  And  I...  Some...  For  some 

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<v Sal Patel>reason,  I  imagine  what  that...  What  Good  Will  Hunting  would 

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<v Sal Patel>look  like  with  a  younger  casting  crew  today.  And  I 

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<v Sal Patel>think  of  Lucas  Hedges  playing  the  Matt  Damon  role  and 

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<v Sal Patel>Timothy  Chalamet  playing  the  Ben  Affleck  role  and  Saoirse  Ronan 

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<v Sal Patel>playing  the  mini  driver  role.  But...  And  so,  I've  imagined 

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<v Sal Patel>what  this  movie  would  look  like.  Also,  Michael  Stuhlbarg  as 

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<v Sal Patel>the  Robin  Williams  character.  I'm  just  like-

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>You  have  this  all  planned  out  already.  You  have  the 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>cast,  (crosstalk)   the  script  ready.  Why don't you just make it?

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<v Sal Patel>I've  got  the  cast.  Because  I'm  like, " I  don't  know 

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<v Sal Patel>it  would  be  good  to  remake  it."  But  at  the 

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<v Sal Patel>same  time,  I'm  like, " I  would  love  to  see  what... 

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<v Sal Patel>Maybe  even  just  as  a  stage  production  first,  I  would 

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<v Sal Patel>love  to  just  see  what  a  set  of  new  actors 

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<v Sal Patel>would  bring  to  it."  So...

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<v Chandler Levick>That's  the  problem  with  remakes.  They're  so  fun  and  irresistible. 

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<v Chandler Levick>I  think  that's  why  so  many  get  made. Because  you  start 

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<v Chandler Levick>cooking  them  up  and  you  get  excited  about  them  and 

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<v Chandler Levick>you  don't  realize  the  monkeys  par...  Repercussions  of  what  you're  doing.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Chandler  and  Sal,  you  guys  are  great.  I  would  like 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>to  remake  this  experience  and  have  you  guys  back  on 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>Hello  Movies.  Do you think  we  can  do  that?

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<v Chandler Levick>I  want  to  be  played  by  Timothy  Chalamet,  though.

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<v Sal Patel>And I will  be  played  by  Dev  Patel.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>And  I  will  be  played  by  Marisa  Tomei,  how  about  that?

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<v Chandler Levick>Perfect  casting.

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>That's  it  for  this  episode  of  Hello  Movies,  but  remember, 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>if  you  want  to  check  out  some  great  remakes  right 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>now,  you  can  always  go  to  the  Cineplex  Store,  online. 

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<v Natasha Gargiulo>I'm  Natasha  Gargiulo.  Thanks  for  listening.