WEBVTT - Pastors' Perspective-10/13/26 0:00:18.099 --> 0:00:23.229 Hello and welcome to Pastor's Perspective. I'm your host, Brian Perez. 0:00:23.378 --> 0:00:26.989 So glad to have you watching and listening today. Maybe 0:00:26.989 --> 0:00:29.979 you're listening live or watching live. Well, you can call 0:00:29.979 --> 0:00:35.630 in till 4 o'clock Pacific time. 888-564-6173 is the number 0:00:35.629 --> 0:00:38.929 to reach us on this Tuesday afternoon. If you're watching 0:00:38.929 --> 0:00:39.848 on uh a 0:00:39.925 --> 0:00:42.775 Podcast maybe. Well, we're here Monday through Friday from 3 0:00:42.775 --> 0:00:45.694 to 4 and uh we open up the phone lines, 0:00:45.735 --> 0:00:49.135 you guys call in and ask your questions about God's word, 0:00:49.244 --> 0:00:52.494 what you've been learning as a believer, uh, what questions 0:00:52.494 --> 0:00:55.334 you might have, so much that we can discuss. Sometimes 0:00:55.334 --> 0:00:58.534 an hour just doesn't seem like enough time, but we 0:00:58.534 --> 0:01:01.014 try to accomplish as much as we can during that hour. 0:01:01.095 --> 0:01:01.694 So call in. 0:01:02.339 --> 0:01:07.938 888-564-6173 is the number to call. We've got Pastor Brian 0:01:07.938 --> 0:01:10.880 Broderson answering your questions today. How are you doing, Brian? 0:01:12.339 --> 0:01:15.770 Well, I'm doing OK, Brian. Thank you very much. Good 0:01:15.770 --> 0:01:18.630 to see you. Is Phil Metzger in yet? Yes, I 0:01:18.630 --> 0:01:22.000 hear you are. Hi Phil. You're not wearing a San 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:26.750 Diego Padres hat today. Uh, no, thank you. No thank you. 0:01:27.060 --> 0:01:30.700 No need to wear the Padres. They're out, but I 0:01:30.700 --> 0:01:34.938 got my 49ers shirt on because they're, they're 5 and 0, baby. 0:01:35.060 --> 0:01:36.828 So anyways, I know that's not what the show is about, 0:01:36.929 --> 0:01:39.179 but you know, I gotta take my jabs here and there. 0:01:40.500 --> 0:01:44.140 Do what you want, Phil. Well, we'll give you 2.5 minutes. No, 0:01:44.219 --> 0:01:47.579 I'm joking. I, I have yet to watch an NFL game, 0:01:47.740 --> 0:01:48.399 but 0:01:49.299 --> 0:01:53.320 I did see that the Forty-Niners beat the champion Seahawks. 0:01:54.070 --> 0:01:55.149 Is that 0:01:56.119 --> 0:01:59.359 Am I correct about that, Phil? They've, they've beaten the 0:01:59.359 --> 0:02:04.320 Rams and the Seahawks. So yeah, 5-0, baby, 5-0. Yeah, well, 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.890 everybody's beating the Rams, so that's not, that's the great accomplishment. 0:02:09.079 --> 0:02:11.200 That's the truth. Yeah, but for the Niners, it's a 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.399 big deal because they're, we just, you know, some teams 0:02:13.399 --> 0:02:15.280 get in your head, right? It's like, it's like all 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.439 of life. Some things get in our heads, and, uh, the, 0:02:18.529 --> 0:02:22.230 the Dodgers live in the Padres' heads rent-free, dude. They just, 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:23.260 it's just. 0:02:25.340 --> 0:02:30.249 All right folks, phone lines are open, 888-564-6173. Did I 0:02:30.249 --> 0:02:32.740 mention you can also send in your questions online? No, 0:02:32.779 --> 0:02:35.279 I did not. I've mentioned it before, but not today. 0:02:35.499 --> 0:02:38.779 You can send your question using messenger on the Pastor's 0:02:38.779 --> 0:02:41.840 Perspective Facebook page, or you can DM us on the 0:02:41.889 --> 0:02:46.210 Pastor's perspective, Instagram, or you can scan the QR code 0:02:46.210 --> 0:02:49.520 if you're watching on Facebook, YouTube, or Instagram. 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I was 0:03:30.939 --> 0:03:35.350 curious to explore the topic on the haunted hotel conversation 0:03:35.350 --> 0:03:37.930 from last Wednesday's episode a little more. 0:03:38.770 --> 0:03:41.279 Phil, you missed it. We had a great conversation about 0:03:41.279 --> 0:03:46.340 haunted houses and, uh, haunted hotels actually, is what it was. And, uh, 0:03:46.359 --> 0:03:48.290 everybody who missed that episode, you can go find it 0:03:48.290 --> 0:03:52.010 on Facebook, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. It was from 0:03:52.010 --> 0:03:55.889 October 7th. So Licy says, what's the pastor's perspective on 0:03:55.889 --> 0:03:58.469 the paranormal or supernatural from a biblic 0:03:58.855 --> 0:04:03.236 Christian perspective. I believe the Bible that believers, uh, for 0:04:03.236 --> 0:04:04.796 believers to be absent from the body is to be 0:04:04.796 --> 0:04:07.876 present with the Lord, but I've heard different interpretations on 0:04:07.876 --> 0:04:12.275 the paranormal. Either it's solely the spiritual realm, and these 0:04:12.275 --> 0:04:16.255 are demonic entities people experience, or the version where there 0:04:16.255 --> 0:04:18.475 are demonic entities, but not. 0:04:18.581 --> 0:04:22.902 Unbelievers can be trapped here like the haunted hotel. I've 0:04:22.902 --> 0:04:27.661 believed more the first, uh, example, but I'm curious what 0:04:27.661 --> 0:04:30.880 the pastor's perspective is and to gain to gain clarity 0:04:31.262 --> 0:04:35.161 on what is a good biblical Christian way to understand 0:04:35.582 --> 0:04:38.501 these experiences. Brian, what do you say to Licy? 0:04:41.579 --> 0:04:42.210 Other, I 0:04:43.270 --> 0:04:43.819 I can't 0:04:45.750 --> 0:04:50.789 I can't talk. Um, no, I can't, um, think of 0:04:50.789 --> 0:04:55.849 a single passage that would support the idea that 0:04:56.589 --> 0:04:57.229 Um, 0:04:58.549 --> 0:05:02.270 You know, sort of like the departed spirits of, of 0:05:02.270 --> 0:05:07.750 human beings are somehow still hanging around or trapped or 0:05:07.750 --> 0:05:10.589 whatever the case might be. Um, I, I think the 0:05:10.589 --> 0:05:12.270 Bible is clear that. 0:05:12.969 --> 0:05:13.529 Um 0:05:14.639 --> 0:05:21.599 Hebrews chapter 9, verse 22 or 26, uh, it is 0:05:21.599 --> 0:05:27.159 appointed for a person to die once and after death 0:05:27.159 --> 0:05:28.078 a judgment. 0:05:28.919 --> 0:05:34.319 So, again, there's nothing biblical about spirits hanging around. So 0:05:34.318 --> 0:05:41.659 if there are spirits, which I would imagine there are, uh, there. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.539 Evil spirits, they're demonic spirits, and of course there are 0:05:45.719 --> 0:05:51.098 angels who are um good, uh, they're the holy angels, 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.779 and they're hanging around too, but um yeah, but not the, 0:05:54.900 --> 0:05:58.279 not the souls of the departed. Hm, Phil Metzger. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.279 I missed a doozy of a show. It sounds like, uh, 0:06:03.448 --> 0:06:08.039 October you did, yeah, boy, it was, and Eric, uh, 0:06:08.128 --> 0:06:11.329 Eric wants to go to the haunted hotel. So, you know, 0:06:11.409 --> 0:06:14.039 is that the one in LA? Is he talking about LA? No, 0:06:14.089 --> 0:06:17.479 it's in Texas. It's near the Alamo. Somebody wrote in 0:06:17.479 --> 0:06:20.008 and asked. They wanted to go to a, a Christian 0:06:20.008 --> 0:06:23.629 concert in the area and, uh, they booked a hotel 0:06:24.250 --> 0:06:26.448 in the area there in Texas, and they found out 0:06:26.448 --> 0:06:27.378 that this. 0:06:27.789 --> 0:06:30.249 You know, there's rumors that this is a haunted hotel, 0:06:30.349 --> 0:06:32.669 and she's like, well, as a Christian, should I go? 0:06:32.750 --> 0:06:35.509 That was basically what the question is, so you guys 0:06:35.508 --> 0:06:36.989 go look for it October 7th. 0:06:37.900 --> 0:06:41.919 Yeah, the, the, it's the, um, the spirit of Davy 0:06:41.919 --> 0:06:48.369 Crockett and, uh, Jim Bowie and Colonel Travis and General 0:06:48.370 --> 0:06:51.049 Santa Ana. Those are, those are all the guys that 0:06:51.049 --> 0:06:54.650 fought at the Alamo, so I would imagine, uh, that's 0:06:54.650 --> 0:06:57.210 who's hanging out, what's hanging out. 0:06:58.469 --> 0:07:01.229 Yeah, no, I have nothing, um, constructive to add to 0:07:01.229 --> 0:07:04.888 the conversation. Sorry, uh, I truly have nothing. I mean, 0:07:05.349 --> 0:07:09.509 from a biblical perspective, there's just nothing like this. I mean, 0:07:09.910 --> 0:07:12.710 there are, you know, like, like Brian said, when you're 0:07:12.710 --> 0:07:15.190 not here, you're not here. You, you ain't coming back 0:07:15.190 --> 0:07:19.090 to haunt a house or a hotel or a person, 0:07:19.270 --> 0:07:22.949 you know, is the demonic real? Of course, but this, 0:07:23.030 --> 0:07:25.419 I mean, I think it's more lure than it is 0:07:25.419 --> 0:07:26.810 anything else. It's, it's always. 0:07:27.220 --> 0:07:29.699 I mean, there's, there's that like, uh, there's a hotel 0:07:29.699 --> 0:07:32.139 in LA that's like the murder hotel, and it's like 0:07:32.139 --> 0:07:36.299 the person is haunting that. I mean, every place has their, their, their, their, 0:07:36.370 --> 0:07:39.379 you know, myths and all that kind of stuff, and I, 0:07:39.490 --> 0:07:42.970 you know, yeah. They make for fun movies and little 0:07:42.970 --> 0:07:46.129 spooky things here and there, and it fills Halloween stories, 0:07:46.180 --> 0:07:49.639 but biblically and realistically, there's nothing like that. 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.039 Have you guys seen the videos that people say they 0:07:53.039 --> 0:07:57.759 drive through cemeteries and they post these videos on Instagram, Phil, 0:07:57.819 --> 0:08:00.599 I'm sharing one right now on my, uh, screen there 0:08:00.599 --> 0:08:03.240 if you look at that, but they, uh, drive through 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.539 cemeteries in their Tesla. The Tesla picks up the, uh, 0:08:07.079 --> 0:08:10.479 you know, the self-driving thing. It shows where motorcycles are 0:08:10.479 --> 0:08:14.099 and cars and everything. So supposedly these people are driving 0:08:14.099 --> 0:08:17.180 through and all of a sudden they'll see like this 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.169 image where, where there is. 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.789 Nobody. There, there's nobody there. There's nobody physically standing in 0:08:22.789 --> 0:08:25.710 front of them, but the image will show up on the, 0:08:25.799 --> 0:08:28.869 the little camera thing on the, um, whatever that's called. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.359 I hate to, I can burst your bubble on this one. 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.840 I'm so sorry to do this for all those that 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.840 wanted it to be a person. First of all, the 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:40.098 Tesla car is using cameras. It's nothing LDAR, no radar. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:41.359 It's just a camera. 0:08:41.689 --> 0:08:44.770 And when it sees a smaller image in its way, 0:08:44.850 --> 0:08:48.530 it identifies it as human. In other words, you know, 0:08:48.569 --> 0:08:50.329 if it was bigger, it might be a car. If 0:08:50.328 --> 0:08:51.650 it was bigger than that, it would be a truck. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.248 If it was bigger than that, it would be a building. 0:08:53.489 --> 0:08:55.959 But it doesn't, um, so no, the Teslas are not 0:08:55.960 --> 0:09:02.809 picking up paranormal, uh, ghosts. It's a fun idea, uh, but, uh, yeah, sorry, no, 0:09:02.889 --> 0:09:04.660 that's a great video you just shared though, Brian. I 0:09:04.660 --> 0:09:05.009 like it. 0:09:06.239 --> 0:09:07.720 I don't know if it's a fun idea because that's 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.709 kind of creepy, but yeah, go ahead, Brian. So, you know, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:17.960 they're actually Martians that Elon has imported in preparation for 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.239 his colonization of Mars. Yeah. 0:09:21.929 --> 0:09:22.979 Preparing us for that. 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.889 That's what's going on. Yeah, thank you, Licy, for sending 0:09:26.889 --> 0:09:31.410 in your question through the, uh, pastor's perspective page at kwave.com. 0:09:31.509 --> 0:09:33.550 Pastor Brian was just looking around the room. Did you 0:09:33.970 --> 0:09:35.929 see a ghost or something? What did you? I just 0:09:35.929 --> 0:09:39.128 saw him there on the the ghost of Cheryl is 0:09:39.129 --> 0:09:42.410 in the room. Yes, no, that creepy girl picture, that 0:09:42.410 --> 0:09:44.489 creepy like kid that was in that one, you know, 0:09:44.610 --> 0:09:49.900 that's definitely haunted at the B&B. That Airbnb was definitely haunted. Hey, 0:09:50.489 --> 0:09:53.170 I'm at the same place. I just. 0:09:54.069 --> 0:09:57.040 Everybody was so freaked out about the, the picture. I 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:01.340 had to take it down, you know, we're glad. I'm kidding. 0:10:01.389 --> 0:10:02.819 I didn't, I didn't take it down, but I am 0:10:02.819 --> 0:10:05.429 at the same place. I'm just in a different room. Ah, 0:10:06.259 --> 0:10:10.819 888-564-6173 is our number. Licy, thank you for sending in our, 0:10:10.828 --> 0:10:13.829 your question, and now let's go to the phones. JC 0:10:13.828 --> 0:10:17.439 and your Belinda listening to Kwave. Hello, thank you for 0:10:17.439 --> 0:10:22.429 calling 888-564-6173. What's your question for the pastors? 0:10:24.009 --> 0:10:27.150 Hi, good afternoon. I've, uh, never called in anything like 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.328 this before. It's my first time. I'm glad to be 0:10:29.328 --> 0:10:31.150 talking with all you guys. Welcome. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:32.368 We'll go easy on you. 0:10:33.889 --> 0:10:38.129 Thank you. Um, yeah, so my question is, this is, um, 0:10:38.489 --> 0:10:43.969 it's a question kind of about reconciliation. Um, my, long 0:10:43.970 --> 0:10:47.929 story short, my, um, the best man at my wedding, um, 0:10:48.090 --> 0:10:50.249 who my wife at one time would have considered to 0:10:50.249 --> 0:10:55.889 be her best friend, um, and he, we've been having 0:10:55.889 --> 0:10:58.449 a bit of a trouble with him, um, 0:10:59.050 --> 0:11:02.850 Because he had carried on, we just found out sort 0:11:02.850 --> 0:11:06.509 of recently, but for probably like about 1 year ago 0:11:06.850 --> 0:11:10.730 to about maybe 6 or so months ago, we found 0:11:10.730 --> 0:11:13.719 out he was carrying on a bit of an inappropriate, um, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:19.639 sexual nature relationship with, um, a close friend of ours. Um, 0:11:19.850 --> 0:11:23.460 and both, both my friend, our best man and, um, 0:11:23.610 --> 0:11:27.939 this friend are, they're taken in, in mutually exclusive relationships. Um, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.449 And he claims that he quit that and, and, and 0:11:32.449 --> 0:11:34.509 as far as we know he did, and he's not 0:11:34.770 --> 0:11:38.340 carrying on anything out of the ordinary now, but we 0:11:38.340 --> 0:11:40.530 had a bit of a falling out with him because we, 0:11:40.650 --> 0:11:43.889 on account of this, essentially refused to go to his 0:11:43.889 --> 0:11:46.249 wedding with his fiance who, um, 0:11:47.249 --> 0:11:52.328 Allegedly even was, um, encouraging what he did. Uh, it's 0:11:52.328 --> 0:11:55.369 a bit of a complicated situation, but long story short, yesterday, 0:11:55.379 --> 0:11:58.530 we tried to reconcile because he kind of cut us out. 0:11:58.610 --> 0:12:01.670 He and his fiance both cut us out several months back, 0:12:01.970 --> 0:12:04.610 and we felt God calling us to try and to 0:12:04.610 --> 0:12:08.650 reconcile because we had both forgiven him, um, for what 0:12:08.650 --> 0:12:11.770 he's been doing, um, and the lies that he's told about. 0:12:11.869 --> 0:12:15.780 Especially about my wife in this whole scenario. So, um, 0:12:15.989 --> 0:12:19.550 we tried to reconcile with him and he sort of 0:12:19.550 --> 0:12:23.429 avoided a lot of responsibility, saying, uh, oh, I didn't 0:12:23.429 --> 0:12:25.910 remember all those kind of things and kind of placing 0:12:25.910 --> 0:12:28.749 the blame onto our friend as well as claiming, well, 0:12:28.828 --> 0:12:31.629 I've been drinking kind of heavily for the last several 0:12:31.629 --> 0:12:33.869 months and then kind of not. 0:12:34.129 --> 0:12:37.400 And so he's in a state where he's not taking responsibility, um, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.160 and on top of it all, he, um, has recently 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.759 claimed that he's a believer, um, and, but refuses to 0:12:43.759 --> 0:12:47.079 talk about his faith. So we're kind of feeling stuck. 0:12:47.150 --> 0:12:50.480 We talked with him last night and he didn't really 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.319 get anywhere. Um, so we're kind of in a state 0:12:53.319 --> 0:12:56.720 where we wanna know what can we really do for him, uh, 0:12:56.879 --> 0:13:00.439 to help with this and to, to continue to pursue reconciliation. 0:13:01.350 --> 0:13:05.629 OK, Phil, what do you say to JC? That's a lot, um. 0:13:06.699 --> 0:13:10.219 Goodness gracious, yeah, I mean, the thing about reconciliation, or 0:13:10.220 --> 0:13:13.480 at least one of the things about reconciliation is, um, 0:13:15.819 --> 0:13:17.339 You know, I mean, it, it has a lot to 0:13:17.340 --> 0:13:20.379 do with you and your, you and your wife, your 0:13:20.379 --> 0:13:22.819 own heart about this person. In other words, it sounds 0:13:22.819 --> 0:13:25.100 like you guys have been like, hey, we're, we're good, 0:13:25.179 --> 0:13:27.619 we're ready, we're free, we're not holding any bitterness, we're 0:13:27.619 --> 0:13:31.339 not holding any unforgiveness, like we're releasing that. I think 0:13:31.340 --> 0:13:33.859 that's a really significant part of reconciliation. I know it's 0:13:33.860 --> 0:13:36.579 not the part that most people talk about, but you 0:13:36.578 --> 0:13:38.349 being free before the Lord. 0:13:38.699 --> 0:13:41.259 You know, that like you've done what you can to, to, 0:13:41.389 --> 0:13:43.579 to do what's right and to, you know, to be 0:13:43.578 --> 0:13:46.420 honoring and to try to rebuild relationship. You know, the 0:13:46.420 --> 0:13:49.050 Bible tells us how much Jesus loves unity. He loves 0:13:49.050 --> 0:13:51.900 when his people are unified. Uh, the reality is you're, 0:13:51.970 --> 0:13:54.099 you're still kind of figuring out, is your, is this 0:13:54.100 --> 0:13:57.139 buddy a believer, is he not? There's been a lot 0:13:57.139 --> 0:14:00.300 of water under the bridge of hurt and frustration. You know, 0:14:00.379 --> 0:14:02.780 if you guys can keep your own heart free, obviously, 0:14:02.929 --> 0:14:05.900 you know, your first priority in relationships is you and 0:14:05.900 --> 0:14:06.600 your wife. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.270 And um beyond that, you know, it's great that you're 0:14:10.270 --> 0:14:13.340 pursuing reconciliation. I think that's great. Um. 0:14:14.189 --> 0:14:16.569 I think you're doing the right things, you know, uh, 0:14:16.660 --> 0:14:18.878 but I wouldn't, I, I wouldn't feel like, I know, 0:14:18.939 --> 0:14:20.300 I don't know if you do, but I wouldn't feel 0:14:20.300 --> 0:14:23.920 like you're doing something wrong or that there's more you 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.300 necessarily could be doing. It sounds like you're doing what 0:14:26.300 --> 0:14:29.420 needs to happen, um, but there is like maybe he 0:14:29.420 --> 0:14:31.020 needs a little bit of time to kind of grow 0:14:31.020 --> 0:14:33.379 into that, but, um, it sounds to me like you 0:14:33.379 --> 0:14:35.979 guys are doing a great job, man. I love JC 0:14:35.980 --> 0:14:39.139 how you, um, felt that the Lord was telling you 0:14:39.139 --> 0:14:40.309 and your wife to 0:14:40.530 --> 0:14:43.290 You know, reach out and try to reconcile and everything else, 0:14:43.329 --> 0:14:46.329 and I think sometimes we hear the Lord telling us 0:14:46.329 --> 0:14:48.329 these things and we think, oh, well, if the Lord's 0:14:48.329 --> 0:14:50.350 telling us to do it, he's gonna do a miracle 0:14:50.350 --> 0:14:53.929 and it's gonna get resolved today, and then you go 0:14:53.929 --> 0:14:58.920 to the meeting, you have coffee, whatever, and things don't resolve. 0:14:59.129 --> 0:15:02.639 They might even get worse, and then you might start thinking, well, 0:15:02.730 --> 0:15:05.050 was it really God who told us to, to meet 0:15:05.050 --> 0:15:07.210 with this guy? I mean, I don't know. What do 0:15:07.210 --> 0:15:08.319 you think of what you've heard, JC? 0:15:10.069 --> 0:15:13.869 Yeah, well, thank you guys for your answers. Um, it, it, 0:15:13.980 --> 0:15:18.420 it definitely does. It's, it's been a lot of disappointment, unfortunately, 0:15:18.550 --> 0:15:22.670 you know, just seeing his response because my wife at 0:15:22.670 --> 0:15:24.910 one time really was best friends with him and now 0:15:24.910 --> 0:15:27.970 she tells me, you know, she hardly even sees him 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.030 anymore when she talks to him. It's just, he's a 0:15:31.030 --> 0:15:34.350 very different person than it seems like he used to be, um. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.569 And yeah, and, and there's like the temptation to feel 0:15:37.569 --> 0:15:40.629 like we're not, there's something else that we should be doing, but, 0:15:40.639 --> 0:15:43.439 you know, I have to remind her and be reminded 0:15:43.439 --> 0:15:46.360 myself that, you know, it's up to God and it's 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.119 between God and, and him and my friend to figure 0:15:49.119 --> 0:15:52.040 out what, you know, is gonna happen next, and we're 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.679 just gonna continue to, to pursue it, um, and try 0:15:55.679 --> 0:15:57.819 to do it with a, with a, with a good heart. 0:15:58.129 --> 0:16:00.040 Yeah, Brian, what would you say to JC? 0:16:03.449 --> 0:16:05.460 We lost Brian's video. I don't know if you can 0:16:05.460 --> 0:16:07.499 see that or not. No, I didn't know that. So 0:16:07.499 --> 0:16:10.059 we lost Brian. OK, so maybe I don't know. He's 0:16:10.059 --> 0:16:12.860 still there on the screen for me, but not like 0:16:12.860 --> 0:16:15.699 no visual. It's not like one of those paranormal videos 0:16:15.699 --> 0:16:17.230 or anything that we just showed you, like on one 0:16:17.230 --> 0:16:19.540 of those like a this is Zoom hunting right here. 0:16:19.660 --> 0:16:20.340 This is a. 0:16:21.639 --> 0:16:24.129 So I, I, I, I was just gonna say, Brian, 0:16:24.179 --> 0:16:25.770 I love what you said there. It's so true, man. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:27.689 Sometimes you're like, oh, God's leading me, and then when 0:16:27.689 --> 0:16:29.970 it doesn't like work out the way we thought, we're like, 0:16:30.129 --> 0:16:32.730 where's God in all of that? And it sounds like JC, 0:16:32.770 --> 0:16:34.369 you've got, you've had a good, you've got a good 0:16:34.369 --> 0:16:36.889 head on your shoulders. You're seeking the Lord, you're walking 0:16:36.889 --> 0:16:40.569 humbly and aware of the fact that just because the, um, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.489 the Lord didn't do it the way you thought he 0:16:42.489 --> 0:16:43.689 was going to the first time. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.040 You know, I'm always aware, I, I love to tell 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.110 people in Acts 16, Paul gave, or God gave Paul 0:16:49.110 --> 0:16:51.319 a vision of a man from Macedonia and that he 0:16:51.319 --> 0:16:53.400 was to go over there, and when Paul actually got 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.800 to Macedonia, there was no man, it was a woman 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.840 down by the river that he preached the gospel to. 0:16:58.050 --> 0:17:00.489 And I love to remind people, like, just because you 0:17:00.489 --> 0:17:02.970 see something and imagine it to be one way, and 0:17:02.970 --> 0:17:05.559 then it doesn't happen, doesn't mean the Lord isn't in it. 0:17:05.869 --> 0:17:08.249 It just might, he might just have a longer process 0:17:08.249 --> 0:17:11.530 for what we're thinking. Don't, don't, don't let what is 0:17:11.530 --> 0:17:13.589 happening in front of you keep you from what you 0:17:13.589 --> 0:17:15.239 feel like God's showing you to do. So it sounds 0:17:15.239 --> 0:17:17.400 like you did that and, and well done for that. 0:17:17.570 --> 0:17:19.609 Where's that story you just mentioned, Phil, for people who 0:17:19.609 --> 0:17:21.290 want to be reminded of it. 0:17:21.598 --> 0:17:24.227 Acts chapter 16. I mean, obviously it's not about, yeah, 0:17:24.308 --> 0:17:26.519 Acts 16, it's the very beginning of it. It's obviously 0:17:26.519 --> 0:17:29.588 not a story about reconciliation at all, but it's a great, 0:17:29.838 --> 0:17:32.148 it's such a great one of reminding ourselves that like 0:17:32.148 --> 0:17:34.358 God led Paul, God gave him a vision of a 0:17:34.358 --> 0:17:36.957 man from Macedonia, and then Paul tells everybody I had 0:17:36.958 --> 0:17:37.159 a vision. 0:17:37.270 --> 0:17:39.550 of a man from Macedonia, and he gets there, and 0:17:39.550 --> 0:17:41.270 there was a woman down at the river that he 0:17:41.270 --> 0:17:43.339 preached the gospel to. That tells you how few men 0:17:43.339 --> 0:17:46.989 there were in that city, right? Uh, Jewish men. And I, 0:17:47.050 --> 0:17:48.939 I think I always like to tell people, number one, 0:17:48.989 --> 0:17:50.349 it would have been weird if Paul had had a 0:17:50.349 --> 0:17:52.290 vision of a woman, none of the guys would have 0:17:52.290 --> 0:17:54.509 believed him, that that was from the Lord, that would 0:17:54.509 --> 0:17:55.410 have been odd. 0:17:55.900 --> 0:17:57.920 And on the other hand, sometimes we just got to 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.270 do what's in front of us. Paul knew that preaching 0:18:00.270 --> 0:18:03.099 the gospel was more important than, than his vision coming 0:18:03.099 --> 0:18:05.830 to pass the way he thought it should. And, um, 0:18:06.229 --> 0:18:08.379 not only did God, um, reach one man, but he 0:18:08.379 --> 0:18:11.700 reached millions of men because Paul went to Macedonia. All 0:18:11.700 --> 0:18:15.109 of Europe was open to the gospel because of that. Yeah. 0:18:15.550 --> 0:18:16.709 So JC, how was it? 0:18:18.599 --> 0:18:21.280 Yeah, thank you guys so much. We appreciate it and 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.679 we're just gonna continue to, you know, walk through the 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.310 doors that, that God presents for us and, you know, and, 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.138 and keep our heads up and leave the results to Him. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.280 Awesome. So thanks for calling in today. Are you a 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.550 longtime listener of Kwave or cause you said this is 0:18:35.550 --> 0:18:37.300 the first time you've ever called, how'd you find out 0:18:37.300 --> 0:18:37.700 about us? 0:18:38.969 --> 0:18:41.820 Uh, yeah, I've been listening to you guys for a 0:18:41.820 --> 0:18:45.830 good couple of years now, um, on my commutes and everything. 0:18:45.900 --> 0:18:49.420 I love hearing, uh, all the different programs throughout the 0:18:49.420 --> 0:18:53.139 day and just try and listen, you know, uh, several 0:18:53.138 --> 0:18:54.619 hours a day worth if I can. 0:18:55.239 --> 0:18:58.430 Well, thank you, and if you're stuck on that long commute, uh, 0:18:58.469 --> 0:19:00.889 it's a good way to spend your time listening to 0:19:01.270 --> 0:19:05.869 K Wave. 888-564-6173 is the number to call us today 0:19:05.869 --> 0:19:09.229 here on Pastor's Perspective. I do believe we have Pastor 0:19:09.229 --> 0:19:13.349 Brian Broderson back and Phil Metzger's here as well. And 0:19:13.349 --> 0:19:16.468 uh we're now going to speak with Phil in Riverside 0:19:16.469 --> 0:19:19.430 who listens to K Wave. Hey there, Phil. Welcome to 0:19:19.430 --> 0:19:23.749 Pastor's Perspective. Thanks for calling 888-564-6173. 0:19:25.138 --> 0:19:28.879 Hey, pastors, uh, thanks for taking my call. Um, I just, 0:19:29.020 --> 0:19:31.259 I just wanted to ask for some prayer. I've been 0:19:31.259 --> 0:19:34.219 struggling for the past 4 years now with addiction. 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.849 And uh it's off and on. I find myself coming 0:19:38.849 --> 0:19:41.248 clean and then, you know, being with the Lord and 0:19:41.249 --> 0:19:43.450 then everything's fine, and then as soon as I get 0:19:43.450 --> 0:19:46.169 back into the addiction, it's like it's very hard to 0:19:46.170 --> 0:19:50.009 find myself coming back to God and then I just 0:19:50.009 --> 0:19:52.189 feel like everything is just stuck in between and 0:19:52.888 --> 0:19:54.530 So yeah, is there any way uh you guys can 0:19:54.530 --> 0:19:56.570 pray for me and then, uh, also if you guys 0:19:56.570 --> 0:19:58.979 have anywhere to direct me, is there anybody in scripture 0:19:58.979 --> 0:20:02.009 that kind of dealt with addiction or anything that kind 0:20:02.009 --> 0:20:05.008 of relates to that? Hm, Pastor Brian, what do you 0:20:05.009 --> 0:20:05.489 say to Phil? 0:20:07.009 --> 0:20:11.050 Yeah, so when you say addiction, um, I mean, there's 0:20:11.050 --> 0:20:14.209 all kinds of possibilities with that. Are you talking about 0:20:14.209 --> 0:20:18.449 like substances, you know, drugs, alcohol, that, that sort of thing? 0:20:19.239 --> 0:20:23.909 Yeah, it's drugs, uh, so I've been, um, smoking cannabis 0:20:23.910 --> 0:20:27.830 for the past 4 years. Um, I guess like I 0:20:27.830 --> 0:20:31.790 kind of thought that it was OK that maybe it 0:20:31.790 --> 0:20:35.410 would be OK to use it because it was like legal, but, um, 0:20:35.469 --> 0:20:37.458 the more I found myself using it, the more I, 0:20:37.790 --> 0:20:39.509 the more I realized that it was more of a 0:20:39.509 --> 0:20:40.320 vice and 0:20:41.050 --> 0:20:43.089 No, it just kind of got me all entangled up 0:20:43.089 --> 0:20:44.690 and I just kinda wanna get rid of it. 0:20:45.489 --> 0:20:45.879 Yeah. 0:20:46.869 --> 0:20:47.270 Well, 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.040 You know, that's, that's the first step really, and that's 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.810 great that you're at that place, you know, where you're saying, 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:55.780 you're recognizing that it's 0:20:56.410 --> 0:21:00.330 It's not helpful at all, and it's, it's something that 0:21:00.330 --> 0:21:02.770 you wanna get out of your life and I think, uh, 0:21:02.830 --> 0:21:07.450 practically speaking, you, um, I mean, num number one, just 0:21:07.450 --> 0:21:09.969 very practically, you need to throw away all the weed 0:21:09.969 --> 0:21:10.780 that you have. 0:21:11.869 --> 0:21:15.089