WEBVTT - On the Horizon: Farm Tech - Autonomous farming with SwarmFarm's Bailey Kilpatrick 0:00:00.350 --> 0:00:04.610 BCG acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and 0:00:04.610 --> 0:00:07.970 their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our 0:00:07.970 --> 0:00:10.610 respects to their elders, past and present. 0:00:14.060 --> 0:00:18.020 Welcome back to Shared Solutions by BCG. I'm Janine Batters 0:00:18.020 --> 0:00:21.950 in the fourth episode of our series On the Horizon: Farm Tech, 0:00:21.950 --> 0:00:25.820 sponsored by GE silos, I'm chatting to Bailey Kilpatrick from 0:00:25.820 --> 0:00:29.740 SwarmFarm about their autonomous farming technology. Welcome, Bailey. 0:00:30.130 --> 0:00:32.020 G'day, Janine. It's good to be here. 0:00:32.140 --> 0:00:35.380 So good to have you today. Now, first I thought 0:00:35.380 --> 0:00:36.699 I would start. Can you just give me a little 0:00:36.700 --> 0:00:38.680 bit of a history about SwarmFarm , please? 0:00:38.710 --> 0:00:43.959 SwarmFarm originated on a family property in central Queensland, about 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:51.159 40 minutes south of Emerald. And it's designed with the 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.320 agronomy of farming in mind. SwarmFarm started on farm, is 0:00:55.320 --> 0:01:00.540 designed by farmers for farmers and all Australian owned and made. 0:01:00.540 --> 0:01:03.240 Okay, tell me a little bit about your role. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.770 So I work in the Central Queensland region as a 0:01:07.770 --> 0:01:12.240 portfolio manager. And what that means is basically that the 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:16.230 growers that are running the machines today, I look after 0:01:16.230 --> 0:01:18.920 the operations side of that, and then some of the 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.510 sales for the new ones coming through. 0:01:20.540 --> 0:01:24.530 So can you tell me SwarmFarm makes SwarmBots ? What 0:01:24.530 --> 0:01:25.490 are SwarmBots ? 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:30.110 Yeah. So a SwarmBot is a robot that we build. 0:01:30.110 --> 0:01:34.459 It's a it's an autonomous platform that is designed with 0:01:34.459 --> 0:01:37.940 a farmer in mind to then put an attachment on 0:01:37.940 --> 0:01:40.130 the back of it to then. Yeah, go out to 0:01:40.130 --> 0:01:41.539 the field and do the job. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.550 So how do they actually work? 0:01:43.580 --> 0:01:47.930 There's a few parts to them. The main three components 0:01:47.930 --> 0:01:50.240 or the main three parts of a swarm bot. It's 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.150 a diesel engine, so it's a diesel powered machine, four 0:01:53.150 --> 0:01:58.940 wheel drive. And they run only inside a mapped area. 0:01:58.940 --> 0:02:00.980 So you've got to have a geocache like a mapped 0:02:00.980 --> 0:02:04.370 area for them to then traverse and drive within. 0:02:04.370 --> 0:02:07.330 And so if I wanted to get a SwarmBot, but 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.040 what would be the first step? 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:14.859 So the first step is looking at your farm and going, righto, 0:02:14.860 --> 0:02:19.810 control traffic three metre centers and I'm 24m. If I 0:02:19.810 --> 0:02:23.049 want a robot, then we provide the orange and silver bit. 0:02:23.050 --> 0:02:25.840 And what I mean by that is the the technology 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.610 for the dare I say it, tractor. Andrew is going to 0:02:29.610 --> 0:02:33.900 kill me. The the robot is what we provide. So 0:02:33.900 --> 0:02:36.900 the first step is looking at your your farm and 0:02:36.900 --> 0:02:40.620 then deciding what configuration you need, and then pairing that 0:02:40.620 --> 0:02:43.080 with an attachment that goes on the back of our robot, 0:02:43.169 --> 0:02:46.800 that then from start to finish we'll support it. And 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:52.079 then there's a layer of training that's involved and mapping 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.860 your farm or bringing maps in so the robot knows 0:02:54.860 --> 0:02:55.910 what it can and can't do. 0:02:56.570 --> 0:02:59.570 Okay, so knowing what you want your robot to do, 0:02:59.570 --> 0:03:03.470 knowing what sort of tramlines you want it on, and 0:03:03.470 --> 0:03:07.010 then educating yourself on how to use it. So are 0:03:07.010 --> 0:03:08.270 there different models? 0:03:08.780 --> 0:03:12.919 There's only one model. So the history of Swarm, circling back to that, 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.530 it started the very first one was a like a 0:03:15.530 --> 0:03:19.660 John Deere Gator that did a project with us on 0:03:19.660 --> 0:03:23.170 to do an autonomous light vehicle. From there it grew 0:03:23.169 --> 0:03:27.040 to a three wheel electric powered machine. And then after 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.190 the three wheeled one, the the four wheel design came out, 0:03:30.190 --> 0:03:33.460 which is SwarmBot five, what we call a SwarmBot five now. 0:03:33.460 --> 0:03:36.790 So that's the one model, so to say, that we build. 0:03:36.790 --> 0:03:43.680 75 horsepower hydraulic drive and the variation comes in your 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:48.410 axle sizes and axle heights to suit either two, 3 0:03:48.410 --> 0:03:51.120 or 4 metre centres. If you're in an orchard, you 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.390 want a low to the ground two metre wide machine 0:03:54.390 --> 0:03:57.180 perfect for that. If you're in Broadacre, which has sort 0:03:57.180 --> 0:04:00.630 of been our big uptake market, that's sort of been 0:04:00.630 --> 0:04:04.710 the lowest hanging fruit. What we've done most in is broadacre. Generally, 0:04:04.710 --> 0:04:08.310 three metre centres is pretty common and what we'd call 0:04:08.310 --> 0:04:10.680 a high chassis. So that's the next step up in 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.990 axle size just to get a bit of crop clearance. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.570 Okay, so have you thought about getting any bigger? 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.800 Not in terms of weight and size bigger for different applications. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.430 So what we need at the moment is powder ground 0:04:23.430 --> 0:04:27.240 for ground, engaging gear. Our our market has been in 0:04:27.270 --> 0:04:30.830 tow behind sprayers. They don't take a huge amount of 0:04:30.830 --> 0:04:33.770 horsepower to pull. It means we can keep our weight 0:04:33.770 --> 0:04:36.710 really light for a 24 metre boom. For example, will 0:04:36.710 --> 0:04:39.080 be eight ton loaded so you can get on the 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.380 ground nice and early. We don't want to go bigger 0:04:42.380 --> 0:04:47.479 because that's going away from where SwarmFarm began. The idea 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.570 with the Swarm is you've got lots of small, lots 0:04:50.570 --> 0:04:53.960 of lightweight machines doing the job that you'd think of 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.700 one big one doing. So the reason why we aren't 0:04:57.700 --> 0:05:01.390 going bigger is because we believe that you can do 0:05:01.390 --> 0:05:05.020 the same job with less horsepower and less weight. There 0:05:05.020 --> 0:05:09.190 are limitations, of course, once you get into planting or 0:05:09.190 --> 0:05:14.739 bigger mowing or raking, that does require some more design, 0:05:14.740 --> 0:05:18.270 but we've got a full mechanical design team and everything's 0:05:18.270 --> 0:05:22.410 done in-house from the software development, the chassis design, R&D, 0:05:22.410 --> 0:05:26.160 everything's built and designed on farm, so it gets tested 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.010 here and then we break it, fix it and then 0:05:29.010 --> 0:05:31.289 take it, take it to market after that. That's why 0:05:31.290 --> 0:05:32.190 we're not big. 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.890 It's all made in Australia. That that is a really 0:05:34.890 --> 0:05:38.279 cool point. So I'm just thinking in terms of you're 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.650 talking about how it's being used in broadacre the optical sprayers. 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.870 Are you saying, would you use a lot of these 0:05:44.870 --> 0:05:48.770 SwarmBots instead of a big self-propelled? Or are you saying 0:05:48.770 --> 0:05:51.349 that you would have a self-propelled for when you really 0:05:51.350 --> 0:05:53.810 need to get over it nice and quick before a rain, 0:05:53.810 --> 0:05:56.839 and have the little bots going when you don't necessarily 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.400 need to be done straight away, but you want to 0:05:58.400 --> 0:05:59.360 get the job done. 0:05:59.570 --> 0:06:03.289 That's a really good question. So Andrew's brainchild, the concept 0:06:03.290 --> 0:06:06.020 was to have lots of lightweight machines, hence the name 0:06:06.020 --> 0:06:11.229 Swarm that's grown into what we have now. So our 0:06:11.230 --> 0:06:15.520 largest boom is 27m wide and we tow a payload 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:20.350 of just over 3000l. So 3000 litre chem tank with 0:06:20.350 --> 0:06:23.800 a freshwater flush tank is our. That's our largest setup 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.279 at the moment. We have a maximum speed of ten 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.330 kilometres an hour and we generally work if you have 0:06:30.330 --> 0:06:34.500 a 24 meter arrangement, 20 hectares per hour is what 0:06:34.500 --> 0:06:37.950 you'll benchmark on. So if you're looking at a SwarmBot 0:06:38.190 --> 0:06:41.820 as a replacement for your sprayer, it's probably not what 0:06:41.820 --> 0:06:44.880 we'd specialise in. It's more to pair with your existing 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:49.200 spray setup, so we don't want to replace your Broadacre sprayer. 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.980 That's not really what we're about. We're more using this 0:06:52.980 --> 0:06:56.130 as a tool, as an autonomy tool and a maintenance 0:06:56.130 --> 0:07:00.240 tool to go across your paddock more frequently with lower 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.270 water rates, high chemical rate with a spot sprayer. And 0:07:03.270 --> 0:07:06.270 that's sort of where it's fit into the industry really well, 0:07:06.300 --> 0:07:08.880 because you don't need to go out there and race 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.880 into your paddock and do it in a mad rush because 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.000 the rain's coming, because you've already been across it three 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.270 times with your SwarmBot . And that's where I don't 0:07:18.300 --> 0:07:21.750 think we'll replace a self-propelled. They've certainly got a seat 0:07:21.750 --> 0:07:24.690 in the industry and wouldn't say that we're replacing them, 0:07:24.690 --> 0:07:27.030 but it's sort of working with them to go. You 0:07:27.030 --> 0:07:29.370 can put the hours on a SwarmBot , and it's 0:07:29.370 --> 0:07:33.420 a better return on investment than, say, putting 10,000 hours 0:07:33.420 --> 0:07:34.980 on your self-propelled machine. 0:07:34.980 --> 0:07:37.500 How many hours can they take these SwarmBots before you 0:07:37.500 --> 0:07:39.030 have to recycle them? 0:07:39.030 --> 0:07:42.850 Our end of life is around 15,000 hours. And what 0:07:42.850 --> 0:07:45.970 I mean by an end of life is a full rebuild. 0:07:45.970 --> 0:07:48.430 So at the moment we've got machines running with 10,000 0:07:48.430 --> 0:07:52.960 hours plus and they're absolutely fine. We are new to 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.560 the industry, so we're still learning and growing. Um, but 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.810 that's that's our lifespan is 15. 0:07:58.810 --> 0:08:01.660 So I was thinking when you were talking about having 0:08:01.660 --> 0:08:05.350 it running and having the self-propelled and the SwarmBot that 0:08:05.350 --> 0:08:07.830 perhaps you could just let it do the jobs that 0:08:07.830 --> 0:08:12.780 weren't high priority. But I was also thinking about perhaps 0:08:12.780 --> 0:08:15.270 you're getting a better kill because you're going to go 0:08:15.270 --> 0:08:18.300 over that paddock when maybe you wouldn't have otherwise because 0:08:18.300 --> 0:08:19.530 you don't have the time. 0:08:19.530 --> 0:08:23.790 Yeah, absolutely. It's coming into an agronomy decision more than 0:08:23.790 --> 0:08:30.570 a time based decision. So they're not a self-sufficient machine. 0:08:30.590 --> 0:08:32.270 I suppose it's a question that we get a lot. 0:08:32.270 --> 0:08:35.959 Maybe a misconception that we have is it should do everything. 0:08:36.050 --> 0:08:38.300 Why have we got to look after it so much? 0:08:38.300 --> 0:08:41.990 It's another little worker. Yes. Once you do the mapping 0:08:41.990 --> 0:08:44.809 and planning and you have your farm and your your 0:08:44.809 --> 0:08:47.569 maps laid out, you do the rest from your phone. 0:08:47.570 --> 0:08:50.360 So you operate it on an Apple iOS device and 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.000 that's your that's your interface. So that's your tractor screen 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.090 is your phone. You walk around with your tractor screen 0:08:55.090 --> 0:08:58.300 in your pocket and you can check on it. It'll 0:08:58.300 --> 0:09:01.870 send you notifications of when it needs filling up fuel, 0:09:01.870 --> 0:09:04.959 when it needs chemical, it'll send you. If it's a 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.770 sprayer with a weather station fitted, it'll send you notifications 0:09:08.770 --> 0:09:12.250 for the weather parameters that you've set if it gets 0:09:12.250 --> 0:09:15.340 close to the boundaries of those parameters, if it leaves 0:09:15.340 --> 0:09:18.250 the parameters, if it stops for an obstacle, it's definitely 0:09:18.250 --> 0:09:22.270 not a set and forget machine. They do take some running, 0:09:22.270 --> 0:09:25.540 but it's freeing up, I suppose, one of your workers 0:09:25.540 --> 0:09:28.750 to be fencing or checking troughs while they can look 0:09:28.750 --> 0:09:31.480 at their phone and go yep, Bob's still spraying. He's 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.420 got about 50 hectares to go. And that's that's sort 0:09:34.420 --> 0:09:36.730 of where they come into their own. So you can 0:09:36.730 --> 0:09:40.390 set it off 6:00 at the night, it'll start spraying 0:09:40.390 --> 0:09:43.230 and then through the night if it goes outside the 0:09:43.230 --> 0:09:46.470 spray boundaries that you've set, it'll pull up. Go to sleep. 0:09:46.470 --> 0:09:48.900 We've got a sleep passive state where it'll just shut 0:09:48.900 --> 0:09:51.810 the engine off and keep the GPS running, keep the 0:09:51.809 --> 0:09:54.990 weather station running. That sort of technology will stay on. 0:09:54.990 --> 0:09:59.100 And then once it's back inside its boundaries, that's perfect 0:09:59.100 --> 0:10:01.949 for spraying. It'll start up and it might be 2:00 0:10:01.950 --> 0:10:04.740 in the morning, but it'll continue on its way. And 0:10:04.740 --> 0:10:07.020 when you wake up out of bed and you're like, oh, 0:10:07.020 --> 0:10:08.370 how good is that? It's done. 0:10:09.090 --> 0:10:11.220 That is very good. I like that you've applied that 0:10:11.220 --> 0:10:14.579 to sleep too, because that's so important for farmers. So 0:10:14.580 --> 0:10:17.190 you're talking about you needed somebody to operate it all 0:10:17.190 --> 0:10:20.490 the time. Can you talk me through the process of 0:10:20.490 --> 0:10:23.010 what that looks like on your. Like how do you 0:10:23.010 --> 0:10:25.440 just get it set up on your iPad because it 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.030 only works on Apple. That's right. 0:10:27.420 --> 0:10:30.600 Yeah. Yeah that is correct. So Apple's the um the 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.150 only device that we're integrating with at the moment, from 0:10:34.150 --> 0:10:39.310 the initial stages of getting your SwarmBot , you'll, you'll 0:10:39.309 --> 0:10:43.150 integrate either your pre-existing maps from your John Deere Ops 0:10:43.150 --> 0:10:46.510 center or Trimble maps. We have a farm manager website 0:10:46.510 --> 0:10:49.959 that is needed to operate a SwarmBot . So we've 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.079 got a dedicated software team that's built a platform where 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.550 you can bring your maps to farm manager or grab 0:10:56.550 --> 0:10:59.580 a GPS drive around in the buggy, map all your obstacles, 0:10:59.580 --> 0:11:01.890 map all your paddocks, get it set up so you 0:11:01.890 --> 0:11:03.569 know exactly where it's going to spray, where it's going 0:11:03.570 --> 0:11:06.270 to start and finish and fill points and map all 0:11:06.270 --> 0:11:09.870 your internal roads, etc. where you want to send it. 0:11:09.870 --> 0:11:11.820 But yeah, it does take some running. 0:11:12.210 --> 0:11:14.130 It is good though, that you can use the maps 0:11:14.130 --> 0:11:16.590 that you've already got because they take a lot of time, 0:11:16.590 --> 0:11:18.870 so it's nice to just be able to transfer those 0:11:18.870 --> 0:11:23.309 across in regards to just maps in general. Bailey. If 0:11:23.309 --> 0:11:25.890 it's taking maps, if it's making an EM map or 0:11:25.890 --> 0:11:30.179 something like that, can you integrate those with your other software? 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:35.070 Unfortunately, we can't just yet. So specifically for an EM unit, 0:11:35.070 --> 0:11:39.810 that's a another supplier that's attaching an EM unit to 0:11:39.809 --> 0:11:43.760 one of our SwarmBots and then using the SwarmBot to 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.710 continue on the path. So instead of driving up and 0:11:45.710 --> 0:11:48.920 back in the ute , the SwarmBot can do 7 to $10 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.590 an hour, which is ideal for EM mapping, and it'll 0:11:51.590 --> 0:11:53.599 chug along there and just go up and back your 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.350 AB lines, and then from there it'll send that data 0:11:57.350 --> 0:11:59.600 to that suppliers. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.540 So you said that they can run all night. What 0:12:02.540 --> 0:12:04.670 about filling them up? How long do they need to 0:12:04.670 --> 0:12:06.530 go between fuel fills. 0:12:06.530 --> 0:12:10.610 The the fuel usage from the engines about eight liters 0:12:10.610 --> 0:12:15.589 per hour. So they're very fuel efficient depending on the payload. 0:12:15.590 --> 0:12:17.660 That's sort of the weed bank that you're spraying in 0:12:17.660 --> 0:12:22.640 the field. So ideally you can start it and it'll 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.800 run all night or all day and you just fill 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.500 it up once a day. That's the idea, especially with 0:12:27.500 --> 0:12:29.750 a spot spray that's viable. Um, if you're trying to 0:12:29.750 --> 0:12:31.709 blanket spray with them because you can also send them 0:12:31.710 --> 0:12:37.350 to PWM and blanket spray. That'll require filling up more frequently. 0:12:37.350 --> 0:12:41.970 The perfect situation is having a dock station, um, which 0:12:41.970 --> 0:12:45.060 we're in commercial testing at the moment. The scenario there 0:12:45.059 --> 0:12:48.120 is you map your refill, it'll spray until it gets 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.270 to the low payload that you set via your app, 0:12:51.270 --> 0:12:54.720 and then it'll go, no worries, I'm at 50l in 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.620 the tank. I'll fold myself up, drive down the road, 0:12:57.620 --> 0:12:59.750 fill up, go back to my last spot where I 0:12:59.750 --> 0:13:01.670 sprayed and continue on again. 0:13:01.790 --> 0:13:04.280 And by road you mean road in the paddock, don't you? 0:13:04.429 --> 0:13:07.069 Road in the paddock. No public roads can be mapped. 0:13:07.700 --> 0:13:10.939 Okay. That's good. I think I'd be a bit freaked out, actually, 0:13:10.940 --> 0:13:13.340 if I saw one coming along the road. So can 0:13:13.340 --> 0:13:15.080 it do that with chemical as well? Is that also 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:15.800 in testing. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.530 So that is that's only for chemical. 0:13:18.710 --> 0:13:19.990 Oh so that's not for fuel. 0:13:20.230 --> 0:13:23.559 No we're not doing fuel. So they still require checking 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.340 every 24 hours. It's still a machine. It's got hydraulics. 0:13:27.340 --> 0:13:30.610 It's got a diesel engine. It's got a steel chassis. 0:13:30.610 --> 0:13:34.150 So it still takes a daily check. Walk around, check 0:13:34.150 --> 0:13:37.300 the sensors. They're really important. We've got our obstacle detection. 0:13:37.300 --> 0:13:40.569 That is, um. Yeah. Is vital for keeping it and 0:13:40.570 --> 0:13:44.460 everyone else safe. So daily checks are still a must. 0:13:44.490 --> 0:13:46.770 I like that, I think that's really clever because I 0:13:46.770 --> 0:13:48.809 just imagine that. Yeah, I just want it to run 0:13:48.809 --> 0:13:51.839 all the time. But then I'd probably yeah, wouldn't probably 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.320 check it. So that's a really good point. So leading 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.290 on from that, what about servicing. Can you do you 0:13:58.290 --> 0:14:00.329 have to take it somewhere special. How hard is it 0:14:00.330 --> 0:14:02.280 to service it and get parts? 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:07.350 Everything has been designed to be very user friendly in 0:14:07.350 --> 0:14:11.540 terms of servicing and repairs and maintenance. It's built with 0:14:11.540 --> 0:14:14.150 right to service in mind from our point of view. 0:14:14.179 --> 0:14:17.870 We warrant hardware everything other than oil and tyres for 0:14:17.870 --> 0:14:22.940 three years. The replacement of parts. We've got regional hubs 0:14:22.940 --> 0:14:26.630 set up around Australia, so if you've got any issues, 0:14:26.630 --> 0:14:29.300 we've got a full time support team and full time, 0:14:29.300 --> 0:14:34.080 I mean, seven days a week within specific hours. It's 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.660 not 24 hours just yet, but yeah, we've got a 0:14:36.660 --> 0:14:40.980 full support team that is at call and ready to help. 0:14:41.100 --> 0:14:43.170 How hard is it to get parts once you realize 0:14:43.170 --> 0:14:44.970 you need something? What's the turnaround. 0:14:44.970 --> 0:14:50.310 For major parts? It depends. If it's a proximity sensor, 0:14:50.310 --> 0:14:53.729 we can have it there within the day. Depending on 0:14:53.730 --> 0:14:56.230 where you are from the closest regional hub, you also 0:14:56.230 --> 0:14:58.989 get a little toolkit with the major components that are 0:14:58.990 --> 0:15:02.290 easy to swap out. 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Com.au for more information GE silos the 0:15:51.890 --> 0:15:53.660 right storage solution. 0:15:56.210 --> 0:16:00.859 What about being a robot? What about if it's something technical? 0:16:00.860 --> 0:16:05.570 With our connectivity, we can log into the robot and 0:16:05.570 --> 0:16:09.040 see it remotely. So imagine you've got your phone walking 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.920 around farm, anywhere you can get phone service. That's what the 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:16.720 robot will be able to operate and transmit messages to 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.570 you as long as you've got the machine in phone service, 0:16:19.570 --> 0:16:22.120 we can log in and check it. If it is 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.780 a no service area, it's it's not going to be 0:16:25.780 --> 0:16:28.780 detrimental to the machine. It's still got its pre-planned path 0:16:28.780 --> 0:16:31.570 and it'll still operate. The only time there'll be an 0:16:31.570 --> 0:16:34.410 issue is if it stops from an obstacle. It won't 0:16:34.410 --> 0:16:36.420 be able to send you a notification because it doesn't 0:16:36.420 --> 0:16:40.110 have any messaging capability, doesn't have service. 0:16:40.230 --> 0:16:43.230 Do you mean that then for it to work to 0:16:43.230 --> 0:16:45.570 its best, you're going to need good connectivity. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:50.370 Yes, yeah I do. So on your farm you may 0:16:50.370 --> 0:16:54.810 have Optus as your best service provider. Maybe Telstra. They 0:16:54.810 --> 0:16:58.290 take a SIM card in a little, um, router and 0:16:58.290 --> 0:17:00.840 that's how we can see them remotely. 0:17:01.110 --> 0:17:04.860 So in areas that don't have that can use another 0:17:04.859 --> 0:17:07.050 internet provider, something like that. 0:17:07.170 --> 0:17:10.619 Yeah, 100%. We do have quite a few machines running 0:17:10.619 --> 0:17:13.740 with the Starlinks in a hard case, we can mount them 0:17:13.740 --> 0:17:17.850 on the robot, and they often give better connectivity than 0:17:17.850 --> 0:17:20.040 you've got at your house, which is pretty funny. You 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.560 can be out in the middle of the paddock and 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.210 load your messages faster than at home sometimes. 0:17:24.140 --> 0:17:26.480 That could solve a lot of problems, I think. Bailey. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:30.020 So you said that they travel about ten K's per hour? 0:17:30.020 --> 0:17:33.709 I think you said. And they can cover 20 hectares 0:17:33.710 --> 0:17:38.720 per hour. Is that right? Yeah, yeah. So what in 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:43.669 terms of cost, how much are they compared to something 0:17:43.670 --> 0:17:46.240 that's going to do it a lot faster. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.810 For the machine? What we build and supply is just 0:17:49.810 --> 0:17:56.680 over 300,000. So 305 gets you a robot, your first 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:02.500 year subscription and full service and warranty from there, once 0:18:02.500 --> 0:18:06.460 you've passed the three years, $12,000 per year for your 0:18:06.460 --> 0:18:09.629 subscription base, with that, you still need to put an 0:18:09.630 --> 0:18:14.880 attachment on top so you've got a couple of options 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.469 with your chassis and axle sizes. Other than that, it's 0:18:19.470 --> 0:18:22.320 just the one make and model. So 300,000 buys you 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.690 a robot, and then you put the attachment on top 0:18:24.690 --> 0:18:25.260 of that. 0:18:25.350 --> 0:18:28.380 And can you just use any kind of attachment or 0:18:28.380 --> 0:18:30.870 do they have to be SwarmBot attachments? 0:18:30.869 --> 0:18:33.830 They've got to be SwarmBot ready. So we've worked very 0:18:33.830 --> 0:18:38.600 closely with attachment suppliers. From the beginning we recognized that we 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.879 can't do everything. We don't want to do everything. We 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.659 don't want to build sprayers or slashers or planters because 0:18:44.660 --> 0:18:47.419 that's not what we're targeting. We want to build a 0:18:47.420 --> 0:18:50.600 platform where then others can integrate with us and get 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.150 into the industry that way, and better the industry that way. 0:18:53.150 --> 0:18:58.000 So we've partnered with quite a few attachment suppliers around Australia. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.600 And they are that's their bread and butter. That's what 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.600 they do every day. So we figured why not, you know, 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.190 work with the best in the best. 0:19:06.190 --> 0:19:09.130 That makes sense. So what what kind of attachments can 0:19:09.130 --> 0:19:10.810 you attach to it at the moment? 0:19:10.810 --> 0:19:14.560 At the moment we can do spot sprayers are our 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.820 most common attachment and that's been the the lowest hanging fruit, 0:19:18.820 --> 0:19:22.080 the best entry to market you can partner and pair 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:27.090 an attachment on for 250 -$300,000. So you're looking at 0:19:27.090 --> 0:19:29.939 half a million to get a full setup. And that'll 0:19:29.940 --> 0:19:33.900 that's ready to go s pot spraying. That's been our main attachment. 0:19:33.900 --> 0:19:37.770 We've got some turf mowers running in New South Wales 0:19:37.770 --> 0:19:41.160 and then other slashers running in Queensland in orchards and 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.919 one in a vineyard. Spreading is another one. We've got 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.690 a spreader over in Western Australia. 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:46.740 How big is the spreader? 0:19:46.740 --> 0:19:51.480 I think it can hold a ton. So it's not huge. 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:55.560 It's an electric driven one, but mainly used for mouse baiting. 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.140 It's an initial look into the spreading market, and that's 0:19:58.140 --> 0:20:01.859 where we're wanting to get more and more, is diversifying away 0:20:01.859 --> 0:20:05.070 from not away from sprays. Still, definitely. That's been a 0:20:05.070 --> 0:20:07.770 really good market 10-K and hour spot spraying, it's the 0:20:07.770 --> 0:20:11.480 perfect speed for targeting a weed to weed issue. That's 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:17.270 been the key. But yeah, spraying, slashing, spreading. And we 0:20:17.270 --> 0:20:19.459 are looking at getting into planting. 0:20:19.460 --> 0:20:21.980 Okay. So that's the sort of the near future. 0:20:22.310 --> 0:20:25.100 That's hopefully the near future. I think we'll need a 0:20:25.100 --> 0:20:28.880 bit more horsepower and but we'll see how we go. Yes. 0:20:29.210 --> 0:20:32.870 It's really exciting. I was thinking in terms of, hay, 0:20:32.869 --> 0:20:34.510 just because we do a little bit of hay, on 0:20:34.510 --> 0:20:37.449 our farm, Bailey, I'd really like to have a SwarmBot 0:20:37.630 --> 0:20:40.990 that was raking the hay, and then another SwarmBot that 0:20:40.990 --> 0:20:45.190 was mowing the next paddock, another SwarmBot that was stacking 0:20:45.190 --> 0:20:47.470 it up, and then one loading it on the truck, 0:20:47.470 --> 0:20:49.840 and then another SwarmBot back at the shed. Do you 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.480 think that's something that you might be interested in making? 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.060 I feel like we'd be taking, uh, taking too much 0:20:55.060 --> 0:20:57.040 of your fun jobs away from you. 0:20:57.990 --> 0:21:00.330 That workers might not be too happy if we do that. 0:21:00.330 --> 0:21:02.100 It is, but it is quite intensive. And I see 0:21:02.100 --> 0:21:06.359 that's where SwarmBot could be helpful, is just because labor 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.260 is obviously really hard to get. And then there's obviously 0:21:10.260 --> 0:21:12.390 a lot of work on the farm. So let me know. 0:21:12.390 --> 0:21:14.850 Let me know when when you've worked that out. So 0:21:14.850 --> 0:21:18.780 in terms of challenges, what are some of the challenges 0:21:18.780 --> 0:21:20.220 that you've seen? Well, you. 0:21:20.220 --> 0:21:23.510 Mentioned labor there. and I think that's a really interesting point, 0:21:23.510 --> 0:21:25.880 because when you think of autonomy and where the ag 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:30.560 industry is going, we've had in the past where growers think, oh, 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.420 you're taking a job like, why are you doing this? 0:21:32.420 --> 0:21:34.940 You're sending a robot out to do what my workers 0:21:35.060 --> 0:21:37.970 used to do. And I mean, I don't think we've 0:21:37.970 --> 0:21:41.270 spoken to anyone who's actually bought a machine that has 0:21:41.270 --> 0:21:44.240 fired an employee. So that's been one of the challenges 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.990 that we've worked through and overcome to go, oh, well, 0:21:46.990 --> 0:21:50.500 it doesn't suit everyone and we don't mind if it doesn't. 0:21:50.500 --> 0:21:53.500 But I think one of the challenges is labour and 0:21:53.500 --> 0:21:56.800 overcoming the issue where if you have people knocking at 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.409 the door, please let us know because we need more 0:21:59.410 --> 0:22:00.100 people at SwarmFarm. 0:22:00.670 --> 0:22:03.910 So what about in terms of like hilly country? Can 0:22:03.910 --> 0:22:04.929 it handle hills? 0:22:05.590 --> 0:22:09.669 Oh, they love hills. Um, they're like Billy little Billy goats. 0:22:09.670 --> 0:22:12.850 It's amazing what they can climb up. So from a 0:22:12.850 --> 0:22:15.820 SwarmBot's point of view, we can go up and across 0:22:15.820 --> 0:22:20.350 some very steep country. It depends what you've got hooked 0:22:20.350 --> 0:22:23.140 on the back of it, I suppose. We are only 0:22:23.140 --> 0:22:27.459 75 horsepower, so it is quite a low horsepower machine. 0:22:27.460 --> 0:22:32.050 That's probably our biggest limitation in large contour areas. It'll 0:22:32.050 --> 0:22:34.530 slow down a little bit climbing over the hills, but 0:22:34.530 --> 0:22:37.290 we haven't. Yeah, we haven't come into a spot that 0:22:37.290 --> 0:22:39.870 we can't get through yet. Andrew likes to say it's 0:22:39.869 --> 0:22:42.149 the little engine that could, because a lot of the 0:22:42.150 --> 0:22:45.179 time the the tractors that are out on market today, 0:22:45.180 --> 0:22:48.960 like the largest, is over 800 horsepower. Now you do 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.750 the same job at a slower speed, which means you 0:22:51.750 --> 0:22:54.720 need less horsepower. That's all we look at, so you can 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.730 get across the same country. It might take you a 0:22:56.730 --> 0:22:58.910 bit longer, but you don't need as high horsepower. 0:22:58.940 --> 0:23:01.490 What about water? What happens if there's flooding? 0:23:01.490 --> 0:23:05.060 They only know they're bogged when they can't move any further. 0:23:05.060 --> 0:23:08.600 So that's one thing that our weather station on board 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.149 doesn't capture. So we don't capture rain. But we do 0:23:11.180 --> 0:23:16.850 capture humidity via delta T minimum maximum temperatures, wind direction. 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:20.810 If it starts raining then we can use third party 0:23:20.810 --> 0:23:24.220 weather stations. We can integrate with them and grab data 0:23:24.220 --> 0:23:28.389 from inversion towers. But if it's raining on top of 0:23:28.390 --> 0:23:30.520 the machine, the only way it knows is if it 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:31.330 gets bogged. 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.510 That's good to know. So what about crashing? Can they 0:23:34.510 --> 0:23:35.649 crash into things? 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:40.119 No. They, uh, they can't unless you tell them to. 0:23:40.150 --> 0:23:44.109 So every machine has an obstacle detection system. It's a 0:23:44.109 --> 0:23:47.460 lidar based system at the moment, so it relies on 0:23:47.460 --> 0:23:51.000 light feedback from an obstacle in front of it. We 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:55.410 can't differentiate between a tree or a person. Um, so 0:23:55.410 --> 0:23:58.230 it'll stop for anything that's in front of it. And 0:23:58.230 --> 0:24:01.500 it knows when it's 24m, when it's unfolded, and it 0:24:01.500 --> 0:24:04.200 knows when it's four metres when it's folded up. So 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.199 that's how we get through, um, gateways and in and 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.919 around paddocks is it knows its width when it's unfolded 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.890 and it knows its width when it's folded up. If 0:24:12.890 --> 0:24:17.510 you're mapping still need to map every obstacle that's within 0:24:17.510 --> 0:24:22.700 your paddock. So trees, power poles, lakes, dams, they need 0:24:22.700 --> 0:24:25.790 to be mapped because that's how our planning program works, 0:24:25.790 --> 0:24:28.489 that are then draws a plan for the machine to 0:24:28.490 --> 0:24:33.290 follow around that obstacle. Whereas if you miss it, it'll 0:24:33.290 --> 0:24:36.380 stop and you'll have to go out there and manually 0:24:36.380 --> 0:24:41.930 drive it. If you override that obstacle detection system, then 0:24:41.930 --> 0:24:45.859 it will not mind what's in front of it and 0:24:45.859 --> 0:24:48.109 rely only on the bumper bar which is on the 0:24:48.109 --> 0:24:50.210 front of the machine. That's our last line of defense, 0:24:50.210 --> 0:24:52.340 which we prefer not to use. 0:24:52.460 --> 0:24:53.810 Does it happen a lot though? 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:55.250 No, not very often. 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:56.870 Did you train everyone really well? 0:24:57.820 --> 0:25:00.610 That's right. The training that we provide is. Well, it has. 0:25:00.609 --> 0:25:04.450 It has to be not I'm not going to say bulletproof. 0:25:04.450 --> 0:25:06.940 We've had our moments as every company would have, but 0:25:06.940 --> 0:25:10.840 we strive to provide the best training we can because 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.870 we want to see farmers succeed with this technology. And 0:25:13.869 --> 0:25:18.159 that's part of our package, is ensuring that your farm 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:22.260 is SwarmBot ready. So we've got our training material that 0:25:22.260 --> 0:25:24.960 we'd do over a couple of days is our longest 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.410 training material. We've got three training sessions, I think coming 0:25:28.410 --> 0:25:31.200 up next week like it's yeah, we're pretty busy and 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.720 trying to keep on top of that side of it. 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.750 So got to do the training. How long do you 0:25:36.750 --> 0:25:39.780 think it would take you like in days or to 0:25:39.780 --> 0:25:42.840 actually get set up? So if I was to stay today, 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.629 tomorrow I'm going to get my SwarmBot's going to arrive. 0:25:45.630 --> 0:25:47.700 Can would I be able to use it in a week? 0:25:47.700 --> 0:25:51.810 Yeah, absolutely. You I reckon you'd be pretty tech savvy. 0:25:51.810 --> 0:25:54.810 You'd just smash it out. Um, so for the from 0:25:54.810 --> 0:25:57.030 when you first put an order in for a robot, 0:25:57.060 --> 0:25:59.790 we work closely with you to make sure that you 0:25:59.790 --> 0:26:02.910 understand what's required for a map, what a SwarmBot needs 0:26:02.910 --> 0:26:06.240 to operate. If you want to grab the GPS and 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.670 go out there and and map a paddock from when 0:26:08.670 --> 0:26:10.869 you start mapping to when you can run a robot 0:26:10.869 --> 0:26:14.139 within half an hour is is all it would take 0:26:14.140 --> 0:26:16.570 once you're proficient at it when you first start, we 0:26:16.570 --> 0:26:18.340 wouldn't expect you to do it in half an hour, 0:26:18.340 --> 0:26:20.500 but that's where you can get to. 0:26:20.530 --> 0:26:22.449 So how do I get a SwarmBot ? Can I 0:26:22.450 --> 0:26:24.550 get it from a local machinery dealer? 0:26:24.550 --> 0:26:28.090 It sounds a bit funny, but our philosophy is not 0:26:28.090 --> 0:26:30.340 to go towards a dealership model, so we want to 0:26:30.340 --> 0:26:35.100 keep it independent and then use local resources, local mechanics, 0:26:35.100 --> 0:26:37.619 to train them up and be able to one day 0:26:37.619 --> 0:26:41.970 service the fleet of machines in their area. We have 0:26:41.970 --> 0:26:45.540 an order form and it comes all through. SwarmFarm is 0:26:45.540 --> 0:26:47.880 how you order one. So we don't yeah, we don't 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.760 have dealers. We're staying to an independent service model. 0:26:51.330 --> 0:26:54.840 Okay. And speaking about services and dealers and that sort 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.379 of thing. How many of these are operating throughout Australia. 0:26:58.380 --> 0:27:02.600 So we've got nearly 100 running commercially. I think it's 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:06.650 96 running commercially in Australia, and we've got one in 0:27:06.650 --> 0:27:08.570 the US running commercially. 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.450 And where do you see the best fit? Like how 0:27:11.450 --> 0:27:13.580 many do you see the most of them in one 0:27:13.580 --> 0:27:16.460 particular area and one particular industry in Australia. 0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.140 For the. 0:27:18.140 --> 0:27:18.710 Area? 0:27:18.710 --> 0:27:22.490 I would say New South Wales has been a big 0:27:22.490 --> 0:27:27.500 growth area they're, right into their controlled traffic and keeping 0:27:27.500 --> 0:27:31.669 their water use efficiency right down and really targeting resistant 0:27:31.670 --> 0:27:35.390 weeds because that's essentially the best fit has been in 0:27:35.390 --> 0:27:40.790 spot spraying technology. Um, using an optic camera sprayer, traveling 0:27:40.790 --> 0:27:42.740 throughout your paddock, you can really do a plant by 0:27:42.740 --> 0:27:45.650 plant decision to keep it running as a maintenance tool 0:27:45.650 --> 0:27:49.149 throughout your field. That's where we've really grown in the 0:27:49.150 --> 0:27:50.080 ag industry. 0:27:50.109 --> 0:27:52.210 Now how reliable are they? How often are they going 0:27:52.210 --> 0:27:53.560 to break down Bailey? 0:27:53.590 --> 0:27:54.970 They are. 0:27:54.970 --> 0:27:58.600 Quite reliable. I will be honest that we've got a 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.020 software and full support team that's available every day of 0:28:02.020 --> 0:28:05.650 the week. So if you have any dramas, whether it's 0:28:05.650 --> 0:28:08.950 logging into the app, got a leaking wheel hub, got 0:28:08.950 --> 0:28:12.000 a robot that won't turn on because your mouse have 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.340 chewed the wiring harness. The best way to describe it 0:28:14.340 --> 0:28:18.180 is they're reliable, but we've got a full support network . 0:28:18.180 --> 0:28:21.780 That is good to know. What about regulations? Because when you 0:28:21.780 --> 0:28:24.270 fly a drone, you need a drone license. Now, do 0:28:24.270 --> 0:28:26.550 you need a license to operate these? 0:28:27.060 --> 0:28:32.790 No, so at the moment the industry, especially AG isn't necessarily regulated. 0:28:32.790 --> 0:28:37.939 It's an AG implement. So the restrictions come when you 0:28:37.940 --> 0:28:40.700 want to move it from paddock to paddock. So you're 0:28:40.700 --> 0:28:45.080 not allowed to map a public road network and you're 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.420 not allowed to operate it on a public road network. 0:28:47.420 --> 0:28:49.880 So from a user point of view, if it's on 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:53.150 your farm's private property, it's registered to your farm, no 0:28:53.150 --> 0:28:55.220 issues at all. If you want to move it from 0:28:55.220 --> 0:28:58.070 paddock to paddock, we've got a dolly system. You can 0:28:58.070 --> 0:29:00.459 hook it on behind your truck and then tow it 0:29:00.460 --> 0:29:03.190 down the road. In terms of regulations, we've got an 0:29:03.190 --> 0:29:06.700 internal certificate network that we're bringing in to make sure 0:29:06.700 --> 0:29:12.040 that the operators are trained and have appropriate training. Unlike 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:17.140 international companies struggling with getting autonomous machines out, Australia is 0:29:17.140 --> 0:29:19.630 quite free with the regulations, and we're trying to do 0:29:19.630 --> 0:29:22.180 everything we can to stay in front of that. So 0:29:22.180 --> 0:29:25.500 keeping signs at the front gate, entry and exit points. 0:29:25.500 --> 0:29:28.320 So anyone who enters that farm knows there's an autonomous 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:32.910 machine running appropriate training and keeping up with that service 0:29:32.910 --> 0:29:33.840 and support. 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:35.700 That is good to know that there are some safety 0:29:35.700 --> 0:29:38.610 things because yeah, I know my robot vacuum cleaner would 0:29:38.610 --> 0:29:42.690 probably just run over me if it could. I don't 0:29:42.690 --> 0:29:45.630 think it likes me very much. Was there anything else, Bailey, 0:29:45.630 --> 0:29:46.830 that you'd like to add? 0:29:46.830 --> 0:29:50.400 Definitely. Just reiterating that we build a platform. Think of 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.670 it like your iPhone. That's the technology that we're building. 0:29:53.670 --> 0:29:55.830 It's something that then you can load your apps on 0:29:55.830 --> 0:29:58.230 top of. So you've got a robot, and then with 0:29:58.230 --> 0:30:01.890 a swarm connect attachment, it can go from a sprayer 0:30:01.890 --> 0:30:04.830 to a spreader. We're trying to get our time down. 0:30:04.950 --> 0:30:08.370 So that's that's sort of where we're really wanting to head. 0:30:08.370 --> 0:30:12.170 And yeah, working with different industries like you mentioned, hay 0:30:12.170 --> 0:30:15.500 and raking earlier, that's something that we've never really looked into, 0:30:15.500 --> 0:30:18.170 but I'm sure into the future. It would be a 0:30:18.170 --> 0:30:18.950 good fit. 0:30:18.980 --> 0:30:21.830 One question I like to ask everybody that I speak 0:30:21.830 --> 0:30:24.590 with Bailey is, what's the best piece of advice that 0:30:24.590 --> 0:30:28.280 you've been given, whether it's in life, in footy, farming? 0:30:28.310 --> 0:30:29.180 Tell me. 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.360 I love this question. 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