1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,840 S1: We have had so much fun at the Radio Backyard 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,280 S1: Fence in July, presenting a whirlwind of audio memories from 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,480 S1: the past, guests and voices from Moody Radio through the years. 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,680 S1: On Tuesday, we celebrated the first broadcast of Moody Radio 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,720 S1: at 7 p.m. on the 28th of July. So Moody 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,319 S1: radio is now 100 years and a day and a 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,000 S1: half old, and we have been giving thanks to God 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,839 S1: for the men and women of vision who began a 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,320 S1: good work, and the people through the decades who picked 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,560 S1: up the baton and continued to run the race, to 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,360 S1: clearly present the gospel through the portal of Moody Radio. 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,040 S1: But there's one thing that we talked about in conceiving 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,720 S1: the series of programs that we presented across the whole 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,320 S1: platform of Moody Radio in the last 30 days. We 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,400 S1: don't want to just look over our shoulder and see 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,000 S1: the great things that were accomplished and stay there. We 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,440 S1: wanted this vision of what God has done in the 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,639 S1: past to launch us into the next hundred years, or 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,240 S1: however long it will be, until the return of Jesus. 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,000 S1: So today on Chris Fabry Live, I have two guests. 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,880 S1: I've held them until today, two guests and a request. 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,040 S1: I put this on our Facebook page, dream with us. 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,800 S1: Help cast a vision today. What new ways can you 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,760 S1: conceive for how Moody Radio might help form more fully 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,240 S1: devoted disciples of Christ? In other words, help us to 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,639 S1: think bigger. Help us to envision some way God might 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,480 S1: use Moody radio to teach the word and reach the 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,200 S1: world in the next century. And if you have an 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,720 S1: idea along those lines, we'd love to hear them. Maybe 30 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,600 S1: something you say today will propel us. We'll start the 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,160 S1: ball rolling on something that we hadn't even thought about. Eight. Seven. Seven. Five. 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:06,090 S1: 75483675 is our number. (877) 548-3675. Let me thank our team. 33 00:02:06,090 --> 00:02:09,050 S1: Ryan McConaughey. Doing all things technical. Trish is in the chair. 34 00:02:09,050 --> 00:02:11,610 S1: Our producer Lisa is helping out. Josh will be answering 35 00:02:11,610 --> 00:02:14,250 S1: your calls today. And let me say thank you to 36 00:02:14,290 --> 00:02:17,410 S1: those who have supported us this month. I figured that 37 00:02:17,410 --> 00:02:19,649 S1: the book that we're giving away would cause a lot 38 00:02:19,690 --> 00:02:22,369 S1: of longtime listeners to join with us, because you want 39 00:02:22,410 --> 00:02:25,050 S1: to see the pictures of the faces and the voices 40 00:02:25,050 --> 00:02:28,369 S1: from long ago that we've heard this month. I was 41 00:02:28,370 --> 00:02:31,970 S1: not prepared for those who would come along recently. Who 42 00:02:31,970 --> 00:02:34,650 S1: would want the same, the copy of the same book. 43 00:02:34,690 --> 00:02:38,530 S1: This is Moody radio 100 years proclaiming the gospel. Each 44 00:02:38,570 --> 00:02:41,690 S1: month we have a goal for people to respond and 45 00:02:41,690 --> 00:02:44,810 S1: a goal for the funds that we need for that month. 46 00:02:44,810 --> 00:02:47,210 S1: And at the beginning of July, I mentioned the extra 47 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:49,730 S1: cost of a book like this with a whole lot 48 00:02:49,730 --> 00:02:53,649 S1: of pictures, and I asked you to be generous. So 49 00:02:53,650 --> 00:02:55,450 S1: I want to tell you here on the 30th of 50 00:02:55,450 --> 00:02:58,090 S1: the month, we've got one day left. One day before 51 00:02:58,090 --> 00:03:01,369 S1: this offer ends, the number of people goal. We are 52 00:03:01,370 --> 00:03:10,090 S1: at 314%. And the amount of gifts? Goal. I said 53 00:03:10,130 --> 00:03:14,890 S1: be generous 358% of our goal. So you have tripled 54 00:03:14,889 --> 00:03:19,410 S1: the response and then some that we expected for this month. 55 00:03:19,410 --> 00:03:21,490 S1: And July usually is a slower month. A lot of 56 00:03:21,490 --> 00:03:23,730 S1: people are on vacation and such. So maybe you're just 57 00:03:23,730 --> 00:03:26,610 S1: tuning in today and you haven't heard about our offer. 58 00:03:26,610 --> 00:03:28,609 S1: This is the first time you're hearing you can get 59 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:32,050 S1: a copy of This is Moody Radio 100 years Proclaiming 60 00:03:32,050 --> 00:03:34,890 S1: the gospel. You still have time. Call or click through 61 00:03:34,890 --> 00:03:38,890 S1: today eight, six, six, nine five Faber or go to 62 00:03:38,930 --> 00:03:43,210 S1: Chris Fabry live.org. I think this will encourage you the graphs, 63 00:03:43,210 --> 00:03:47,090 S1: the photos, and the stories that are told in Moody 64 00:03:47,130 --> 00:03:50,290 S1: radio at 100 years. Give a gift today. Chris Fabry. 65 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:59,780 S1: FABRY Chris Fabry live.org or call 9532279. As I said, 66 00:03:59,780 --> 00:04:02,460 S1: I've held off bringing these two guests on until today 67 00:04:02,460 --> 00:04:06,339 S1: and they are pivotal to present day Moody Radio. But 68 00:04:06,340 --> 00:04:09,060 S1: I wanted them to join us specifically for their ability 69 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:13,820 S1: to anticipate the opportunities that may be ahead. First up 70 00:04:14,060 --> 00:04:17,700 S1: is vice president of Moody Radio and Moody Global Media. 71 00:04:17,740 --> 00:04:21,060 S1: You'll find out more about that. A broadcast ministry veteran 72 00:04:21,060 --> 00:04:24,620 S1: with experience in leadership roles at Kcbi in Dallas and 73 00:04:24,620 --> 00:04:28,140 S1: Family Life and Revive Our Hearts. He was national program 74 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:31,620 S1: director here at Moody during the late 1990s. His name 75 00:04:31,620 --> 00:04:34,260 S1: is Wes Ward. Wes, how are you doing today? 76 00:04:34,260 --> 00:04:36,060 S2: It's great when you do that. It makes it makes 77 00:04:36,060 --> 00:04:38,420 S2: me feel like I can't hold a job. So it 78 00:04:38,420 --> 00:04:41,500 S2: is great to be here. You know, one of the things, Chris, 79 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:44,420 S2: as you kind of bio me like that, I am 80 00:04:44,420 --> 00:04:46,900 S2: struck here on our 100th anniversary that it's also my 81 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:50,779 S2: 40th year in ministry. So in 1985, I felt called 82 00:04:50,779 --> 00:04:52,940 S2: to full time Christian ministry, and I didn't know what 83 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:55,260 S2: that was going to be. I honestly felt like I 84 00:04:55,260 --> 00:04:57,900 S2: was going to be a missionary, and then the next year, 85 00:04:57,900 --> 00:05:00,500 S2: a youth pastor said, after school today you're going with 86 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:02,900 S2: me to the local Christian radio station, which I didn't 87 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:05,020 S2: know that we had one. And you're going to try 88 00:05:05,020 --> 00:05:06,940 S2: to get a job. And so that afternoon, I got 89 00:05:06,980 --> 00:05:09,500 S2: hired as a DJ at a Christian station. This was 90 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:12,460 S2: in 1986. And then it was right then that the 91 00:05:12,460 --> 00:05:14,860 S2: Lord said, you can do media and you can do 92 00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:18,900 S2: your calling. And so 40 years later, on our hundredth anniversary, 93 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:22,179 S2: who would have thought the little guy from North Texas 94 00:05:22,180 --> 00:05:23,300 S2: would be here in Chicago? 95 00:05:23,580 --> 00:05:25,380 S1: What were the call letters of that station? 96 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:30,500 S2: OKLLF the mighty 1290AM? That's right, that's right. 97 00:05:30,540 --> 00:05:32,060 S1: Is it still there? Is it still going? 98 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:34,020 S2: It is not. It's still not. It is not. 99 00:05:34,060 --> 00:05:34,300 S1: Okay. 100 00:05:34,339 --> 00:05:36,260 S2: Well, the moody station that came on the air the 101 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:41,260 S2: next year. KOC in Wichita Falls, Texas. Yeah. The message 102 00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:44,099 S2: of Christ. That station went on the air. And then 103 00:05:44,140 --> 00:05:48,300 S2: in 1988, they hired me as a young college student 104 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:51,260 S2: who became their program director and afternoon personality. 105 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:54,310 S1: Wow. Yeah. You several things that you just pointed out. 106 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:59,070 S1: One is the transient nature of radio stations, you know, 107 00:05:59,550 --> 00:06:02,589 S1: and some come and some go. To be here after 108 00:06:02,589 --> 00:06:06,469 S1: a hundred years is, is such an achievement. And glory 109 00:06:06,470 --> 00:06:09,630 S1: to God for doing that, keeping it going. But part 110 00:06:09,630 --> 00:06:11,470 S1: of the reason for that, we've been talking about it 111 00:06:11,470 --> 00:06:14,710 S1: this last 30 days is we have stuck with, as 112 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:20,589 S1: George Sweeting always talked about, never pushed down a generous impulse, 113 00:06:20,589 --> 00:06:24,510 S1: number one. But number two, keep the main thing, the 114 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:25,549 S1: main thing. Yeah. Right. 115 00:06:25,589 --> 00:06:29,950 S2: Yeah. You know, we're 102 days old, right. And to 116 00:06:30,029 --> 00:06:32,589 S2: my knowledge, there's never been a day where we haven't 117 00:06:32,589 --> 00:06:36,190 S2: been faithful to proclaiming the gospel and the truth that 118 00:06:36,190 --> 00:06:40,270 S2: comes from God's Word. We are Moody Bible Institute, and 119 00:06:40,270 --> 00:06:42,950 S2: a friend of mine often gets it wrong. You know, 120 00:06:42,990 --> 00:06:45,510 S2: we're known as Moody Radio. And he often says Moody 121 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:48,390 S2: Bible radio. And I'm like, Rick, you're wrong. But Rick, 122 00:06:48,430 --> 00:06:51,790 S2: you're right. That's exactly who we are. And so I 123 00:06:52,630 --> 00:06:55,909 S2: to God. God is the hero of this story, and 124 00:06:55,910 --> 00:06:58,789 S2: I'm so grateful for the men and women, the countless 125 00:06:58,790 --> 00:07:01,590 S2: men and women, the generations now of men and women 126 00:07:01,589 --> 00:07:04,350 S2: that came before us, and they were found faithful to 127 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:07,830 S2: glorifying God and loving people. And they kept the main thing, 128 00:07:07,830 --> 00:07:10,150 S2: the main thing. And they handed the baton off to 129 00:07:10,190 --> 00:07:12,430 S2: people like Chris Fabry and Wes Ward. And it's our 130 00:07:12,430 --> 00:07:17,110 S2: job and it's a holy responsibility. It's these these days 131 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:22,230 S2: of commemorating 100 years are sobering and they're solemn. And 132 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:24,950 S2: that's good because I want to be found faithful, like 133 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:26,110 S2: those that came before us. 134 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:28,710 S1: The other voice I want you to hear today, you 135 00:07:28,750 --> 00:07:33,190 S1: hear each morning on Carl and Clu. Carl. There's no 136 00:07:33,190 --> 00:07:35,830 S1: clue in Carl and crew. There is Carl and crew. 137 00:07:36,110 --> 00:07:39,190 S1: He is the lead pastor of 180 Chicago Church. He's 138 00:07:39,190 --> 00:07:43,230 S1: an author. We've talked about the seven Resolutions and Killing Sin, 139 00:07:43,590 --> 00:07:46,470 S1: and there's a new book coming out in October, The 140 00:07:46,470 --> 00:07:49,390 S1: Unstoppable Gospel. Carl Clawson, how are you doing today? 141 00:07:49,550 --> 00:07:51,990 S3: Tremendous. I forgot I was on I was just sitting 142 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:53,230 S3: back here enjoying you guys. 143 00:07:54,270 --> 00:07:58,310 S1: What does anything Wes just said that resonate with you 144 00:07:58,310 --> 00:08:01,830 S1: about your start in radio or what God has called 145 00:08:01,830 --> 00:08:02,510 S1: you to do? 146 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:06,910 S3: You know, it's very interesting. I don't I didn't seek 147 00:08:06,910 --> 00:08:09,710 S3: out well, I, I went to a little radio station 148 00:08:09,710 --> 00:08:12,270 S3: in Chicago, a little AM station here. And not too 149 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:17,110 S3: many years ago actually, and I really didn't know what 150 00:08:17,110 --> 00:08:20,110 S3: to expect. And I think one of the things I 151 00:08:20,110 --> 00:08:25,710 S3: learned right away was, oh, goodness, you've got to really 152 00:08:25,710 --> 00:08:28,350 S3: be who you are. You don't need to be something 153 00:08:28,350 --> 00:08:31,470 S3: that you're not that crazy microphone sitting in front of 154 00:08:31,470 --> 00:08:35,589 S3: you can make you do crazy stuff. But I think 155 00:08:35,710 --> 00:08:39,870 S3: of the profound lesson that I've learned at Moody is 156 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:46,070 S3: the the impact of the gospel on the individual, the 157 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:49,560 S3: people that are listening right now, who knows where across 158 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,280 S3: this country, in North America and beyond. And I think 159 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,800 S3: staying in a place, the thing that got us here, 160 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,160 S3: because Wes is right for 100 years, by God's grace, 161 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,760 S3: we've been doing it right. And by the way, Moody 162 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,760 S3: Bible Institute there, there's the Harvards and plenty other schools 163 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,360 S3: out there that started with the very similar charter and 164 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,000 S3: have left it. But we've stayed by God's grace, Chris, 165 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,520 S3: by God's grace, we haven't done this is not our I. 166 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,440 S3: I'm more enamored with the faithfulness of God than the 167 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,800 S3: faithfulness of people every day. Yeah, it's amazing how faithful 168 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,359 S3: he is. But God. God has been gracious to Moody radio. 169 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,400 S3: God has been gracious. And those aren't just words for me. 170 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,240 S3: I mean those. Chris, from the bottom of my heart. 171 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,959 S1: I like what you just said, though, about being who 172 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,480 S1: you are. And one of the questions I wanted to 173 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,040 S1: bring up with you, too, is mistakes that we have 174 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,120 S1: made Through the years, or maybe, maybe places where Moody 175 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,360 S1: radio went one direction, then had to pivot. And so 176 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,600 S1: I want to go there with you in our next segment, 177 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,800 S1: but I'm going to open the phone lines for you 178 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,319 S1: to respond here today, especially, here's this baton of Moody Radio. 179 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,120 S1: Here is this great gift that God has given us. 180 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,880 S1: What do we do with that? How do we move 181 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:18,520 S1: forward in this next 100 years? Call us at 87754836758775483675. 182 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,800 S1: Love to put this book in your hands. This is 183 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,040 S1: moody radio. It's our thank you. We have a link 184 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:28,959 S1: right there at Chris Fabry live.org. Chris fabry.org. More straight 185 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,679 S1: ahead on Moody Radio. 186 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,439 S4: This is Chris Fabry. 187 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,040 S1: Live West Ward. Carl Clawson with me at the radio 188 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,050 S1: backyard fence. And you. Today we're talking about the future 189 00:10:48,050 --> 00:10:50,330 S1: of Moody Radio. What is going to happen now? We've 190 00:10:50,330 --> 00:10:53,170 S1: been given this 100 year old gift. What do you 191 00:10:53,210 --> 00:10:55,130 S1: what are we going to do with it? Help us 192 00:10:55,130 --> 00:10:58,290 S1: cast a vision today. Do you have an idea? Something 193 00:10:58,290 --> 00:11:01,170 S1: that moody radio. Oh, you had this idea. This breakfast 194 00:11:01,170 --> 00:11:07,570 S1: this morning. (877) 548-3675. One of the truths that I have 195 00:11:07,570 --> 00:11:11,130 S1: learned through the years, and I've heard from guests, a 196 00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:14,250 S1: lot of sports people will say this. I learned very 197 00:11:14,250 --> 00:11:18,449 S1: little from my successes. I learned a lot from my mistakes. 198 00:11:18,770 --> 00:11:22,210 S1: And Wendell Loveless talked about this, about how it was 199 00:11:22,210 --> 00:11:24,370 S1: kind of trial and error. And if one thing didn't 200 00:11:24,370 --> 00:11:27,689 S1: work back in the 1920s and 30s, they would pivot 201 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:30,130 S1: and they'd go another direction. So I want to ask 202 00:11:30,130 --> 00:11:34,050 S1: you two about what what mistakes have been made or 203 00:11:34,210 --> 00:11:37,290 S1: pivots have you had to make or you've seen in 204 00:11:37,330 --> 00:11:40,290 S1: Moody radio through the years? And this is where the 205 00:11:40,330 --> 00:11:44,410 S1: gospel's really encouraged me. I am encouraged by the disciples 206 00:11:44,410 --> 00:11:49,690 S1: and how hapless they seem. And you see this transformation from. 207 00:11:49,730 --> 00:11:51,690 S1: What they, you know, were trying to do on their 208 00:11:51,690 --> 00:11:54,730 S1: own strength. And then God empowers them. And here is 209 00:11:54,730 --> 00:11:57,890 S1: my example of a of a mistake that I made 210 00:11:58,170 --> 00:12:02,089 S1: when I was first started on Open Line. The old 211 00:12:02,090 --> 00:12:06,370 S1: open line with Don Cole, two nights and me three nights. Uh, 212 00:12:06,410 --> 00:12:11,089 S1: Pastor Cole and I became the executive producer of Open Line. 213 00:12:11,130 --> 00:12:13,730 S1: You know, so, like, that meant something. I was picking 214 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:16,450 S1: the guests out and hosting it, and, uh, and I 215 00:12:16,490 --> 00:12:18,610 S1: went to one of our bosses and I said, you know, 216 00:12:18,610 --> 00:12:21,730 S1: Pastor Cole, the, the nights with Pastor Cole, they just 217 00:12:21,730 --> 00:12:24,970 S1: are so slow. And, and sometimes he stays on with 218 00:12:24,970 --> 00:12:27,320 S1: a caller. We only get to, you know, 5 or 219 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,010 S1: 6 calls. We need to we need to speed that up. Well, 220 00:12:30,010 --> 00:12:31,610 S1: what do you want to do? Well, why don't I 221 00:12:31,650 --> 00:12:34,689 S1: set in with him? Why don't I sit in and 222 00:12:34,690 --> 00:12:37,930 S1: then I can I can take the call and, you know, 223 00:12:37,970 --> 00:12:40,170 S1: and then pass it to him. He answers the question 224 00:12:40,170 --> 00:12:42,890 S1: and then I move on. You know, it's like this. 225 00:12:42,890 --> 00:12:46,980 S1: This seemed like a really good idea from this 2526 226 00:12:46,980 --> 00:12:51,100 S1: year old. And Don Cole, to his credit, said, sure, 227 00:12:51,140 --> 00:12:53,179 S1: come on in if you want if you want two 228 00:12:53,179 --> 00:12:56,580 S1: extra nights to work, you know, come on in. And 229 00:12:56,580 --> 00:13:02,180 S1: I quickly learned that Donald Cole was Donald Cole. Yeah. 230 00:13:02,220 --> 00:13:04,540 S1: And the worst thing that we could do was try 231 00:13:04,540 --> 00:13:06,940 S1: to make him Larry King. 232 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:07,660 S2: Mhm. 233 00:13:08,059 --> 00:13:11,620 S1: He had to be who he was. That was the 234 00:13:11,620 --> 00:13:15,900 S1: power of of what he did. So the pivot that 235 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:21,059 S1: I made was don't touch God's God's anointed. Let him 236 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:24,740 S1: be who he is. And look at what God did 237 00:13:24,740 --> 00:13:27,540 S1: in and through his life. Wes, what do you think 238 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:27,780 S1: of that? 239 00:13:27,780 --> 00:13:29,620 S2: So when I think about that is I don't think 240 00:13:29,620 --> 00:13:33,500 S2: of that necessarily as a mistake or a failure that 241 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,740 S2: you made. I think God gave you curiosity and he 242 00:13:36,780 --> 00:13:41,660 S2: he let you know how radio typically works. And Moody said, 243 00:13:41,660 --> 00:13:45,780 S2: all right, Mr. young whippersnapper. We'll let you. So I 244 00:13:45,780 --> 00:13:48,660 S2: think Moody did something. Well, they empowered a young guy 245 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:51,300 S2: to try something. And then you guys got in there 246 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:54,780 S2: and you realized, oh, no, we don't need to do this, 247 00:13:54,820 --> 00:13:57,820 S2: you know? And then you learn from that. And that, 248 00:13:57,820 --> 00:14:00,260 S2: you know, when I look at the history of Moody 249 00:14:00,820 --> 00:14:04,660 S2: Bible Institute, 140 years, Moody Radio 100 years, I see 250 00:14:04,660 --> 00:14:08,620 S2: a lot of that where you try something and it 251 00:14:08,820 --> 00:14:11,900 S2: just doesn't work. And somebody you get some, you know, 252 00:14:11,940 --> 00:14:15,500 S2: we are surrounded by some great counsel, our board of trustees, 253 00:14:15,660 --> 00:14:19,180 S2: really great thinkers, but they're also godly men and women. 254 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:22,380 S2: And then we're surrounded by staff and listeners. And it's 255 00:14:22,380 --> 00:14:25,020 S2: always kind of been a two way here. And so 256 00:14:25,020 --> 00:14:28,260 S2: I think that that I don't really think of that as, uh, 257 00:14:29,260 --> 00:14:31,460 S2: stubbing your toes. Chris. I think it was like, man, 258 00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:33,820 S2: look at Moody for letting you try it. Look at 259 00:14:33,820 --> 00:14:36,060 S2: Don for being humble. Look at the things that you 260 00:14:36,060 --> 00:14:39,180 S2: learned from that and how you've benefited through the years 261 00:14:39,180 --> 00:14:41,830 S2: for that. You know, I think also to the question 262 00:14:41,870 --> 00:14:45,110 S2: kind of on a micro level, one of the things 263 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:50,150 S2: that I do pretty frequently is replay. How did a 264 00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:53,350 S2: lot of my work life is spent in meetings. Um, 265 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:56,190 S2: and that's just the tool of my job. And a 266 00:14:56,190 --> 00:14:58,150 S2: lot of times I just review the meeting, you know, 267 00:14:58,190 --> 00:15:00,870 S2: did I stub my toe by, was I rough on anybody? 268 00:15:00,870 --> 00:15:03,950 S2: Was I when we debated an idea? Did I do 269 00:15:03,950 --> 00:15:06,470 S2: that in the best possible way? And so when I 270 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:09,870 S2: look back on places where, you know, I've either, um, 271 00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:12,830 S2: stubbed my toes or made a mistake, I really want 272 00:15:12,830 --> 00:15:16,670 S2: to also just ask, did I sin? And you know, 273 00:15:16,710 --> 00:15:18,190 S2: what do I do with that? And how do I 274 00:15:18,190 --> 00:15:19,270 S2: respond to that? 275 00:15:19,270 --> 00:15:21,950 S1: So Carl has answered that is kill it. 276 00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:23,110 S2: That's right, that's right. 277 00:15:23,150 --> 00:15:23,630 S1: You kill. 278 00:15:23,630 --> 00:15:24,990 S2: It. That's right. You know. Exactly. 279 00:15:25,070 --> 00:15:26,190 S3: You gotta put it to death. 280 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:28,910 S1: Yeah. Carl, you said something to me the other day 281 00:15:28,910 --> 00:15:32,510 S1: when we were talking. You said, um, you you said 282 00:15:32,510 --> 00:15:37,270 S1: something about my pacing, and I come to what I 283 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:42,150 S1: do for A great extent because of what Donald Cole 284 00:15:42,430 --> 00:15:45,870 S1: and I. I like to slow things down. And I 285 00:15:45,870 --> 00:15:48,070 S1: think that was what you were talking about, that it's 286 00:15:48,070 --> 00:15:52,310 S1: okay to slow things down. And I learned that from him. 287 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:56,430 S1: Rather than wringing it from him, I, I took it on. 288 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:57,390 S1: Does that make sense? 289 00:15:57,510 --> 00:15:59,590 S3: Yeah. It does. And I was, I was, I was 290 00:15:59,590 --> 00:16:04,030 S3: actually cheering for you. I talked behind your back positively. And, uh, Chris, 291 00:16:04,030 --> 00:16:07,310 S3: I think is one of the greatest evidences of what 292 00:16:07,310 --> 00:16:09,950 S3: compassion looks like looks like on the air. And I 293 00:16:09,950 --> 00:16:15,710 S3: think compassion by nature probably has a little slower cadence. Um, 294 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:20,230 S3: when I think of the mistakes that I've made, it's, 295 00:16:20,270 --> 00:16:23,590 S3: that's easy for me to identify and it's as simple 296 00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:27,390 S3: as what we find. I get so encouraged when I 297 00:16:27,790 --> 00:16:31,430 S3: read here in acts four. Now, when they saw the 298 00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:34,870 S3: boldness of Peter and John, they perceived that they were uneducated, 299 00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:39,990 S3: common men. They were astonished and they recognized they had 300 00:16:40,030 --> 00:16:42,270 S3: been with Jesus. You know what Peter John did? They 301 00:16:42,270 --> 00:16:45,390 S3: took to heart the message that they had just heard 302 00:16:45,390 --> 00:16:48,190 S3: from Jesus not too long before walking through a vineyard. 303 00:16:48,190 --> 00:16:49,990 S3: I'm the vine. You're the branch. You abide in me, 304 00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:53,310 S3: you'll bear fruit. Where I get in trouble is when 305 00:16:53,310 --> 00:16:56,110 S3: I feel like I've got to do it. That's when 306 00:16:56,110 --> 00:16:59,510 S3: I get in trouble. When we hit the sweet spot, 307 00:16:59,550 --> 00:17:03,510 S3: it's when I've totally released this thing. And by God's grace, 308 00:17:03,510 --> 00:17:05,469 S3: we're doing that more and more. One of the cool 309 00:17:05,470 --> 00:17:09,750 S3: things that God has taught me is I love. I 310 00:17:09,790 --> 00:17:11,870 S3: love to bring the ball down the court and pass 311 00:17:11,869 --> 00:17:15,270 S3: it around. So we we didn't start with radio being 312 00:17:15,310 --> 00:17:18,510 S3: for people on the mic in a morning show, but God, 313 00:17:18,510 --> 00:17:20,870 S3: by his grace, showed me, get these people on the mic. 314 00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:23,390 S3: They've got a story to tell, they've got gifts to use. 315 00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:26,830 S3: And so to have super die young Thunder, Diana Berriman, 316 00:17:26,830 --> 00:17:30,830 S3: Jonathan Reincke, those are their real names. Having them on, 317 00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:33,750 S3: pouring out their hearts, using their gifts. And then obviously 318 00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:39,040 S3: my co-host Ali, um, it's been absolutely wonderful. There's a 319 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,560 S3: lot of bumps in the road on radio. We've had 320 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,720 S3: we've we've had callers that have said things that are. 321 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,040 S3: I'm like, oh no, oh no, oh God, how are 322 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,200 S3: we going to get out of this one? But, you know, 323 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,160 S3: God's been faithful through those things. And then there's times 324 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,439 S3: when I say things that people are probably wondering, how 325 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,439 S3: is he going to get out of this one? So 326 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,800 S3: you got it all. But God has been faithful through 327 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,080 S3: it all. I think the key is, is abiding relationship 328 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,520 S3: with Jesus. I, anyone who gets on air or behind 329 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,600 S3: a pulpit or does any work, whatever you're doing is 330 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,040 S3: you're listening for the Lord. That feels like I got this. 331 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,760 S3: That makes me nervous for people when they say, I 332 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,159 S3: got this because my, my experience is we don't have 333 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,800 S3: this and it's by design. 334 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,560 S1: Yeah. And then that surrender and that dependence comes from that. 335 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,080 S1: I had the same kind of experience once with a 336 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,200 S1: wrench that was thrown into the program. That was the 337 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,800 S1: worst thing that I could think of to happen. And 338 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,920 S1: we didn't get the delay off and the, you know, 339 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,160 S1: right time. And then I didn't talk. So there was 340 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,360 S1: dead air, you know, that's the worst thing you can have. 341 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,479 S1: But God did something with the wrench of that. And 342 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,600 S1: that listener who said this, uh, it was, it was 343 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,719 S1: clear that there was an agenda that they wanted to 344 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,960 S1: say something, you know, vulgar on the air. But the 345 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:06,720 S1: response to that then became The Shining. Uh, it became 346 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,240 S1: the gold out of it because we got to get 347 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,680 S1: to the gospel. We got to get to the forgiveness 348 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,960 S1: and the mercy of God. And I don't know where 349 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,720 S1: that fellow was coming from, but boy, you know, I 350 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,560 S1: knew him. Yeah, yeah. God uses that. And I want 351 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,480 S1: everything to go smoothly. Wes, you know this. We want 352 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,880 S1: everything to go the way that we want, and we 353 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,320 S1: plan it out. And when it doesn't, then that gives 354 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,800 S1: us an opportunity, doesn't it? 355 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,130 S2: Well, and you know, here's the crazy thing. We do 356 00:19:34,130 --> 00:19:37,689 S2: a lot of live radio. So in media right now 357 00:19:37,690 --> 00:19:40,689 S2: there is a, you know, I, we're doing podcasting. I 358 00:19:40,690 --> 00:19:43,010 S2: love that, I love short form video, love it, love 359 00:19:43,010 --> 00:19:46,330 S2: it all. I'm a media guy, but there is something different. 360 00:19:46,330 --> 00:19:49,130 S2: When the mic goes live, you know, you walk out 361 00:19:49,130 --> 00:19:51,930 S2: to the edge of the diving platform and we're waiting 362 00:19:51,930 --> 00:19:53,770 S2: for the dive. What's the dive? Are they are they 363 00:19:53,810 --> 00:19:55,690 S2: going to splat at the bottom or is it going 364 00:19:55,730 --> 00:19:59,050 S2: to be clean? And so every day the stakes are 365 00:19:59,050 --> 00:20:02,250 S2: high for Chris Fabry and Chris Brooks and Janet Parshall 366 00:20:02,250 --> 00:20:05,370 S2: and Carl and crew. And so, you know, as as 367 00:20:05,410 --> 00:20:08,890 S2: a guy, one of the leaders here, I'm very thankful 368 00:20:09,290 --> 00:20:12,649 S2: that we've got humble, teachable men and women behind the 369 00:20:12,650 --> 00:20:17,890 S2: microphones that are not looking at, you know, a microphone 370 00:20:17,890 --> 00:20:22,290 S2: here in, in, in any way where it's an occupational hazard. 371 00:20:22,930 --> 00:20:27,090 S2: And as Carl was alluding to, when you get cocky, 372 00:20:27,930 --> 00:20:30,929 S2: God opposes that. God opposes the proud. I mean, it's 373 00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:33,169 S2: right there in the word. We're moody Bible radio. I 374 00:20:33,170 --> 00:20:37,250 S2: know that it's in there, and I'm grateful for humble, teachable, 375 00:20:37,609 --> 00:20:43,530 S2: and convictional and confident people who can handle live radio. 376 00:20:43,770 --> 00:20:45,090 S2: It's it's not easy. 377 00:20:45,570 --> 00:20:49,170 S1: I saw somebody respond to that. Don't stop the live programs. 378 00:20:49,170 --> 00:20:51,330 S1: It makes us feel like we are part of it 379 00:20:51,330 --> 00:20:55,530 S1: because we are. Which Donna is right now in Indiana. Hi, Donna. 380 00:20:55,570 --> 00:20:56,330 S1: Go right ahead. 381 00:20:57,450 --> 00:21:01,090 S5: Hi. Thank you for taking my call. Um, this is 382 00:21:01,090 --> 00:21:03,490 S5: a comment about Donald Cole, but may I precede it 383 00:21:03,490 --> 00:21:05,610 S5: by just a little bit about what Moody has meant 384 00:21:05,609 --> 00:21:06,010 S5: to me? 385 00:21:06,330 --> 00:21:06,889 S1: Sure. 386 00:21:07,770 --> 00:21:11,609 S5: Okay. When I was about 15, 15, 16, I don't remember, 387 00:21:11,609 --> 00:21:15,570 S5: which is when I really understood that I wasn't God's 388 00:21:15,570 --> 00:21:18,690 S5: child just because I'd gone forward. And he really impressed 389 00:21:18,690 --> 00:21:22,290 S5: me with my need to confess my sins. Um, so 390 00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:24,889 S5: before that, when I was a kid, ever since I 391 00:21:24,890 --> 00:21:27,969 S5: was around 12, 11, I'd come home from school and 392 00:21:27,970 --> 00:21:33,100 S5: mom had moody radio on. Um, so I've learned to 393 00:21:33,540 --> 00:21:35,939 S5: appreciate that. And then after I was saved, about a 394 00:21:35,940 --> 00:21:38,020 S5: year or two after that, I decided to take a 395 00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:41,780 S5: correspondence course, which was, you know, that was pretty interesting. 396 00:21:41,780 --> 00:21:45,540 S5: You get the paperwork, fill it out, send it back, etc.. Um, 397 00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:48,580 S5: so those were very precious parts of building into my life. 398 00:21:49,420 --> 00:21:52,139 S5: So about Donald Cole, I think this is maybe I'm 399 00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:55,500 S5: almost 80. Uh, so this is maybe 40 years ago. 400 00:21:55,540 --> 00:21:59,060 S5: I was listening to his program and a child called 401 00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:02,500 S5: and asked him if his dog would go to heaven 402 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:08,139 S5: with him. And he is such a wise man. He said, well, Donny, 403 00:22:08,859 --> 00:22:11,100 S5: if having the dog in heaven is what will make 404 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:13,140 S5: you happy, then yes, your dog will be in heaven 405 00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:17,860 S5: with you. That's all he needed to say. It was truthful. Um, 406 00:22:17,940 --> 00:22:21,180 S5: it was comforting because he could have said, no, Donny, 407 00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:24,340 S5: dogs don't go to heaven. Just people go to heaven. Yeah. 408 00:22:24,980 --> 00:22:28,020 S1: Well, there's empathy. There is what you were talking about, Carl. 409 00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:31,540 S1: There's the empathy of getting into the skin of that 410 00:22:31,540 --> 00:22:35,180 S1: child and everybody feels that way. Everybody has that same 411 00:22:35,180 --> 00:22:37,820 S1: kind of question. And by the way, Randy Alcorn's coming 412 00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:40,619 S1: out with a new book about animals and heaven. Yeah, 413 00:22:40,619 --> 00:22:43,060 S1: we're going to talk to him about that. Okay. But so, Donna, 414 00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,740 S1: that's your memory. And I love what you said about 415 00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:50,300 S1: the radio, led you to the correspondence and then got 416 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:52,980 S1: you deeper into the word. I think there's something there 417 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:56,260 S1: about our future in the next hundred years of Moody Radio. 418 00:22:56,260 --> 00:22:59,140 S1: But let me let you finish your thought. Go ahead. 419 00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:02,179 S5: Well, I think I had finished it well enough. I 420 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:05,940 S5: don't remember what class I took. Um, probably something from 421 00:23:05,940 --> 00:23:08,939 S5: the Old Testament, but it was, you know, get that 422 00:23:08,940 --> 00:23:12,699 S5: lesson done every week, send it in, you'd get a 423 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:16,620 S5: response and just keep going. And that was a great 424 00:23:16,619 --> 00:23:18,940 S5: way of learning to me, for me of how to 425 00:23:18,980 --> 00:23:23,580 S5: learn from God's Word. Um, so I've been blessed with many, 426 00:23:23,580 --> 00:23:24,860 S5: many opportunities. 427 00:23:25,420 --> 00:23:27,699 S1: Do you have a copy of the book? Donna? Do 428 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:30,140 S1: you have the book yet? This. This is Moody radio. 429 00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:32,179 S5: No, I don't. This is the. 430 00:23:32,180 --> 00:23:33,220 S1: First. Well, you. 431 00:23:33,220 --> 00:23:33,500 S5: Are. 432 00:23:33,859 --> 00:23:36,100 S1: You are going to have it. And there's pictures of 433 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:39,659 S1: Donald Cole in there. Hang on. Tricia will get your information. 434 00:23:39,660 --> 00:23:41,899 S1: I want to send you a copy of this. Okay, friend. 435 00:23:41,940 --> 00:23:44,340 S5: Okay. Wonderful. So thank you. I'll hold on. 436 00:23:44,940 --> 00:23:46,859 S1: Carl, what do you say about Donna? 437 00:23:47,740 --> 00:23:51,020 S3: You know what's interesting? I've been blown away with the 438 00:23:51,020 --> 00:23:55,580 S3: quality of saints. And initially I was thinking, like, Donna, 439 00:23:55,780 --> 00:24:00,740 S3: there are so many men and women, so rich in faith. 440 00:24:01,260 --> 00:24:04,780 S3: And it's so encouraging. And I think you can look 441 00:24:04,780 --> 00:24:06,780 S3: at the world around us and get a little bit discouraged. 442 00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:09,820 S3: But I have been blown away with the number of 443 00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:12,419 S3: callers that have called into our program in their 20s 444 00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:15,700 S3: and in their 30s who are on fire for Jesus. 445 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:19,060 S3: And I'm not talking a little bit. I'm talking all in. 446 00:24:19,540 --> 00:24:22,660 S3: They are following Christ. They are hanging on words that 447 00:24:22,660 --> 00:24:25,900 S3: are shared, and they are applying them to their lives. 448 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:30,189 S3: And it is thrilling. And I think that's got to 449 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:32,909 S3: hearten people. You know, I sometimes get a kick out 450 00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:34,830 S3: of the 80 year olds, 90 year olds, even 70 451 00:24:34,830 --> 00:24:37,470 S3: year olds that listen, and we're spinning some records that 452 00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:41,430 S3: are a far cry from just as I am without 453 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:45,150 S3: one plea. Um, but they are so filled with grace. 454 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:48,109 S3: And they know that times change, but the gospel doesn't. 455 00:24:48,750 --> 00:24:51,629 S3: The tempo of the music may change, but the gospel doesn't. 456 00:24:51,630 --> 00:24:54,990 S3: And that's what makes our listeners the best on the planet. 457 00:24:55,630 --> 00:24:59,270 S1: Yeah, they they listen with that heart for the other 458 00:24:59,270 --> 00:25:02,670 S1: person who might be tuning in, you know. And when 459 00:25:02,670 --> 00:25:05,310 S1: you give the gospel and they've been walking with Jesus 460 00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:08,550 S1: for 50 years, they are just as excited as you 461 00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:11,469 S1: are that that message is going out. So let me 462 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,070 S1: I'll call a time out. Wes, I want to hear 463 00:25:13,070 --> 00:25:14,550 S1: what you have to say about this, but let me 464 00:25:14,550 --> 00:25:21,230 S1: give you the number again, (877) 548-3675. Wes also leads not 465 00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:24,869 S1: only Moody Radio but Moody Global Ministries and want to 466 00:25:24,869 --> 00:25:26,470 S1: hear more about that. I I want you to hear 467 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:30,389 S1: more about that as we pass the baton from those 468 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:34,190 S1: that we're talking about, as they've given us this foundation 469 00:25:34,190 --> 00:25:37,790 S1: to build upon what's next. Help us cast a vision. 470 00:25:37,910 --> 00:25:41,149 S1: Maybe part of that is what we just heard from Donna, 471 00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:46,470 S1: that studying together, studying and then going deeper in the word. Eight. 472 00:25:46,510 --> 00:25:52,070 S1: 775483675 more straight ahead on Moody Radio. 473 00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:05,390 S4: Westward. 474 00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:08,470 S1: Carl Clawson joining us today on Chris Fabry live online. 475 00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:11,990 S1: Chris Fabry live.org. We have a link. Go send Donna 476 00:26:12,030 --> 00:26:14,110 S1: that book. I'd love to send it to you. This 477 00:26:14,109 --> 00:26:17,350 S1: is Moody radio 100 years proclaiming the gospel. Give a 478 00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:22,189 S1: gift of any size at Chris fabry.org. Or call that 479 00:26:22,190 --> 00:26:28,600 S1: number 95. Fabbri and Donna gave me an idea because 480 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,919 S1: I've been thinking about this and the power and I 481 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,359 S1: see this on of sometimes live on YouTube. There are 482 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,760 S1: these folks who will have people who will sign in 483 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,240 S1: with video call, and they'll go to wherever they are. 484 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,520 S1: And I'm wondering how how about Moody Radio being having 485 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,040 S1: a video capabilities. And Carl, you have that now. And 486 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,280 S1: I know Open Line does the same thing. And you 487 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,440 S1: have the the reels that I can see. But what 488 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,560 S1: if we did the live program and instead of phone calls, 489 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,280 S1: we had people come calling in on their devices and 490 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,000 S1: we can see their faces and the listeners can see 491 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,040 S1: their faces as well, ask the questions. And then I thought, well, 492 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,240 S1: if we could do that, then why not? With Donna's 493 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,040 S1: idea of the correspondence school, why couldn't you have a live, uh, 494 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,440 S1: instead of Sunday night sing or Friday night sing? Have 495 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,960 S1: a Monday night Bible study with Doctor Redlich and maybe 496 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,560 S1: Doctor Van Landingham, and we have them there with people. 497 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600 S1: Do you see what I'm saying, Wes, about that? The 498 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,920 S1: technology is changing in a way that we can harness that. Right? 499 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,240 S2: Yeah. You know, I'm sitting here, uh, each day this 500 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,840 S2: week with the This is Moody radio book opened in 501 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,720 S2: front of me because it's just chock full of all 502 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,679 S2: this history. And it's kind of a coffee table book 503 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,399 S2: that you look at, but I'm looking at it because 504 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,880 S2: I'm seeing decade after decade of great ideas. And it's 505 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,240 S2: like they were like, let's try this, let's try that. 506 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,200 S2: Like I'm looking at the 1950s first live broadcast of 507 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,240 S2: Ranger Bill serial program. It wasn't, you know, before that 508 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,520 S2: someone said, we can do children's programming. And then somebody 509 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,600 S2: like a Chris Fabry in the 1950s says, and let's 510 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,359 S2: do it live. Yeah. Right. And then 1954, Robert Little 511 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,600 S2: becomes the first radio pastor, and he served until 1970 512 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,050 S2: when Don Cole came. And, you know, again, Don Cole is, 513 00:28:25,210 --> 00:28:28,330 S2: you know, in some ways it was novel, a guy 514 00:28:28,369 --> 00:28:31,330 S2: rustling through the Bible pages. I loved hearing him. Yeah. 515 00:28:31,369 --> 00:28:35,250 S2: Just hearing the pages. Everything you just described, Chris, is 516 00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:39,250 S2: entirely possible. And that's partly why. Moody. There it is. 517 00:28:39,490 --> 00:28:41,450 S2: It's a real Bible. I'm looking at them. Do this. 518 00:28:41,450 --> 00:28:42,130 S2: It's amazing. 519 00:28:42,890 --> 00:28:44,370 S1: Sound effects by Chris favorite. 520 00:28:44,410 --> 00:28:48,090 S2: Yeah. Thank you. Um, you know, Moody Radio is a 521 00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:52,370 S2: media and moody global media is just our umbrella now 522 00:28:52,410 --> 00:28:56,090 S2: of just, we, we just needed a handle so that 523 00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:58,729 S2: we can, as Moody Bible Institute kind of get back 524 00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:01,130 S2: to some of our basics to say we're still committed 525 00:29:01,130 --> 00:29:04,290 S2: to radio. We love radio, we love ministering to radio, 526 00:29:04,290 --> 00:29:06,210 S2: but we want to reach everyday men and women, boys 527 00:29:06,210 --> 00:29:08,610 S2: and girls, wherever they are on the planet, in the 528 00:29:08,610 --> 00:29:14,810 S2: channels that they're already in. So YouTube, podcasting in some way, 529 00:29:14,810 --> 00:29:17,810 S2: and I love I was reading some stuff about our 530 00:29:17,810 --> 00:29:21,210 S2: predecessors before Moody Radio went on the air, like in 531 00:29:21,210 --> 00:29:25,730 S2: the early 1920s. And the way that people thought about it, 532 00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:29,010 S2: they're our predecessors. They were they weren't all they weren't 533 00:29:29,050 --> 00:29:32,130 S2: geeking out about the technology. They were like, how can 534 00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:35,530 S2: we use this mass medium in a helpful way to 535 00:29:35,530 --> 00:29:37,970 S2: get the gospel out to everyday men and women, boys 536 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:41,570 S2: and girls on planet earth. And that's why we did radio. 537 00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:43,850 S2: And that's why, you know, so when we look at 538 00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:47,490 S2: all of the stuff popping up, I just there's, there's 539 00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:50,370 S2: nine individuals on our staff that are pretty brand new. 540 00:29:50,410 --> 00:29:53,530 S2: They're all digital natives. They didn't grow up with radio. 541 00:29:53,570 --> 00:29:57,490 S2: They grew up digitally native. And they were walking outside 542 00:29:57,490 --> 00:29:59,810 S2: our building and I videoed them walking by because it 543 00:29:59,810 --> 00:30:02,490 S2: was warm in my heart because they were I'm like, 544 00:30:02,490 --> 00:30:05,450 S2: they're probably talking about stuff like what you just said, Chris, 545 00:30:05,730 --> 00:30:09,770 S2: but they're the next generation and we're instilling in them. 546 00:30:09,770 --> 00:30:12,010 S2: How do you be faithful to God, to his Word, 547 00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:17,130 S2: to discipleship, to Moody Bible Institute's distinctives and unleash them 548 00:30:17,130 --> 00:30:19,900 S2: with this kind of technology? But we've we've got to 549 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,060 S2: do it because time is short and people need Jesus, 550 00:30:23,060 --> 00:30:25,260 S2: and we want to do it in a faithful and 551 00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:28,420 S2: godly way. But that idea that you've got is great. 552 00:30:28,420 --> 00:30:32,140 S2: You'll submit it to through our through the right channel. Chris. 553 00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:34,060 S2: We'll see if we can find some budget for that. 554 00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:35,900 S4: Well, it's a lot like Karl, like what you. 555 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:38,860 S1: Talk and Ron Hutchcraft talks about, it's like the, the 556 00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:43,500 S1: station where you are saved is not the place where 557 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:47,380 S1: people come. The, the, the station goes out to them. 558 00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:50,420 S1: And so we have to figure out ways to go 559 00:30:50,420 --> 00:30:54,620 S1: from where we are to where the people are. Right? 560 00:30:54,660 --> 00:30:56,980 S3: Yeah. We need to see ourselves as a launching pad, 561 00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:00,900 S3: not a landing pad. Yeah. I firmly believe that. Um, 562 00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:05,500 S3: the interesting thing phenomenon about tech startups right now is 563 00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:08,980 S3: there is a brand new wave of ready for this 564 00:31:08,980 --> 00:31:13,340 S3: live social networking. There's a whole new wave of startups 565 00:31:13,340 --> 00:31:17,940 S3: that are designed to get people together. There's A book 566 00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:20,460 S3: written probably 20 years ago now. I think it's called 567 00:31:20,460 --> 00:31:23,260 S3: death of the Bowling Alley. And it was about the 568 00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:27,300 S3: decline of one another's in the community. Right. So I 569 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:30,340 S3: agree with you, Chris, because over a hundred times in 570 00:31:30,340 --> 00:31:33,340 S3: the New Testament, we see one another. It's a great 571 00:31:33,340 --> 00:31:36,340 S3: Greek word for that. We use two English words for. 572 00:31:36,780 --> 00:31:41,660 S3: But it's a it's there was something presupposed in the 573 00:31:41,660 --> 00:31:45,620 S3: early church that we are innately wired for by God. 574 00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:49,820 S3: We need each other. So if we can be a 575 00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:54,060 S3: launching pad and not a landing pad, we don't want 576 00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:56,100 S3: people to land here. We want them to launch from 577 00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:59,700 S3: here with the truth into community. Look out, Katie, bar 578 00:31:59,740 --> 00:32:01,100 S3: the door. Yeah. 579 00:32:01,460 --> 00:32:06,020 S1: Here's the other mistake that I made when I was. And, Wes, 580 00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:08,060 S1: you can call it. Not a mistake if you want. 581 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:10,460 S2: But let me hear what it is first. 582 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:15,860 S1: A place where I went because in the 80s, Oprah 583 00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:18,940 S1: was on in Chicago and then around the country. And 584 00:32:18,940 --> 00:32:23,020 S1: then there was Sally Jessy Raphael, and I've listened to 585 00:32:23,060 --> 00:32:27,460 S1: Larry King and Larry King in Chicago. Hello. And there 586 00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:31,260 S1: are all these programs where people would throw chairs at 587 00:32:31,260 --> 00:32:34,540 S1: each other, you know, Morton Downey Jr and others. And 588 00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:36,940 S1: so I was steeped in in the culture and everything 589 00:32:36,940 --> 00:32:38,940 S1: that was going on. It was like, oh, you get 590 00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:42,380 S1: conflict and then you've got something. And so I would 591 00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:45,140 S1: have Joe Carlson was our producer of Open Line. I'd say, Joe, 592 00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:48,060 S1: turn that phone around so I can see if people 593 00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:50,460 S1: are responding to this because I have no idea out 594 00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:52,860 S1: here in the studio. And he put it in, we 595 00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:55,940 S1: only have four lines back then. And I thought when 596 00:32:55,940 --> 00:32:59,860 S1: we have four lines going, four lines going means we're 597 00:32:59,860 --> 00:33:03,780 S1: a success because that means people are responding. There's nothing 598 00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:07,540 S1: wrong with getting a big response. But what I thought 599 00:33:07,540 --> 00:33:12,540 S1: was if I stirred people up enough to call, that 600 00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:16,750 S1: was success. And in radio, Maybe it is in general radio, 601 00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:19,709 S1: but in the kind of radio that we do, we 602 00:33:19,710 --> 00:33:22,630 S1: don't want to just stir people up. Anybody can do that. 603 00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:25,630 S1: But with anything that they say online, on social media, 604 00:33:25,630 --> 00:33:27,470 S1: I see it all over the place. So my heart 605 00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:31,750 S1: has changed. I've pivoted not to stir people up, to 606 00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:36,270 S1: be angry, but to stir them to love. And like 607 00:33:36,270 --> 00:33:41,190 S1: you said, Karl, empathy and good works, good deeds. I 608 00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:44,630 S1: think that's the secret sauce of moody radio and moody 609 00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:46,430 S1: global media. What do you think, Wes? 610 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:49,230 S2: Yeah, I'm so grateful to hear that you didn't stay 611 00:33:49,230 --> 00:33:52,710 S2: that way, Chris, that you kept moving. You know, we 612 00:33:52,750 --> 00:33:58,830 S2: want to be authenticating the message that we proclaim. Um, 613 00:33:58,950 --> 00:34:01,070 S2: we want to live out the one anothers we want, 614 00:34:01,070 --> 00:34:03,470 S2: I want, uh, one of the things that I've said 615 00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:06,550 S2: to my kids when I talk to them about what 616 00:34:06,590 --> 00:34:09,509 S2: true and authentic Christian media is like, and all of 617 00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:11,670 S2: my kids are involved in some kind of media now. 618 00:34:12,430 --> 00:34:15,589 S2: And I'm like, the when you talk to these folks 619 00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:18,670 S2: before they go on air and when they get on 620 00:34:18,670 --> 00:34:21,589 S2: the air, you want to hear the same person. You 621 00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:24,149 S2: want to hear authenticity. And I would say the same 622 00:34:24,150 --> 00:34:26,989 S2: thing with pastors and, you know, Bible teachers in your 623 00:34:26,989 --> 00:34:31,190 S2: local congregation. How are they on air, off air, in private, 624 00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:34,350 S2: in public? Mark Job one of the things I love 625 00:34:34,469 --> 00:34:38,830 S2: having served with him is whether I'm texted by Mark 626 00:34:38,830 --> 00:34:42,310 S2: or in a meeting with Mark or one on one conversation, 627 00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:45,390 S2: or when I see him preach, I see the same mark. 628 00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:48,910 S2: And that is a hallmark of what we're trying to 629 00:34:48,910 --> 00:34:52,630 S2: look at in our people. At Moody. We want people 630 00:34:52,630 --> 00:34:54,590 S2: that are, you know, I want Chris to be Chris 631 00:34:54,590 --> 00:34:57,069 S2: and Carl to be Carl and Don Cole, to be 632 00:34:57,110 --> 00:35:00,630 S2: Don Cole and Janet to be Janet. So one Psalm 139. 633 00:35:00,670 --> 00:35:04,069 S2: You're all made in God's creative ways. So I want 634 00:35:04,070 --> 00:35:05,989 S2: you to be who God made you to be. But 635 00:35:05,989 --> 00:35:09,509 S2: I do think it's really important that we offer clarity 636 00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:14,680 S2: and courage, but not fear and outrage and confusion. I 637 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,240 S2: have tried to. My. My parents are now in glory. 638 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,120 S2: I used to try to get them just to turn 639 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,640 S2: off the Weather Channel because the Weather Channel, uh, stoked 640 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,040 S2: fear and outrage and confusion. So folks are getting, uh, today, uh, 641 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,680 S2: discipled by a lot of crazy media, be it Fox 642 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,719 S2: News or MSNBC, be it social media, TikTok X or 643 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,560 S2: whatever it is. I do hope Moody is not just 644 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,560 S2: a peaceful alternative, but you'll you'll get a Christ centered, 645 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,919 S2: biblically grounded, uh, pastoral in tone kind of place that 646 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600 S2: you can emulate. So I'm grateful for it. Thanks for 647 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,560 S2: being that way, Chris. 648 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,399 S1: Well, thanks for giving us the microphone, because that was 649 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,040 S1: one of the things that Don Cole used to say 650 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,200 S1: is this is Moody's microphone. I speak on behalf of 651 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,520 S1: Moody Bible Institute. I'm now going to give you all 652 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,560 S1: my opinions about everything. You know, I'm going to allow 653 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,239 S1: Moody myself to be under the authority of Moody and 654 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,320 S1: then be myself. And I think in this last segment, 655 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,640 S1: I want to do what is probably the most powerful 656 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,000 S1: thing that we could do on a program like this 657 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,840 S1: today with Carl Clawson of Carl and crew in West Ward, 658 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,640 S1: who is vice president of Moody Radio and Moody Global Media. 659 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:34,160 S1: You can find out more about them@chris.org. Chris Fabry live.org. 660 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,880 S1: Stay with us more. Straight ahead. 661 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,439 S6: Hi, this is Ellie, and I just want to say 662 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,200 S6: that I really appreciate Moody through the years. I started 663 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,760 S6: listening as a young mom, and what I really appreciate 664 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,320 S6: is the fact that it went from a non call 665 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,960 S6: in show to a call in show with prayer when 666 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,239 S6: Carol and crew took the reins. And that has been 667 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,170 S6: so amazing to see how many people will call and 668 00:37:12,170 --> 00:37:15,969 S6: ask questions that we could get the the show cast, 669 00:37:16,010 --> 00:37:20,210 S6: that we could hear people calling in who share such 670 00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:24,330 S6: deep stories. And it's really help me grow in my faith. 671 00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,930 S6: I take great joy in listening from pretty much, uh, 672 00:37:28,170 --> 00:37:31,530 S6: you know, early in the morning until probably about this time. 673 00:37:32,130 --> 00:37:35,530 S6: And I just am so thankful. So God bless you 674 00:37:35,530 --> 00:37:36,770 S6: and thank you so much. 675 00:37:37,290 --> 00:37:39,210 S1: Encouragement for you, Carl. What do you say? 676 00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:42,969 S3: Oh, it's it's so humbling. And I genuinely mean that. 677 00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:46,130 S3: It's it's encouraging. We all know this. When you get 678 00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:50,570 S3: on a mic, sometimes you wonder and you almost want to. Hello? 679 00:37:51,489 --> 00:37:55,090 S3: Is anyone out there? Yeah. But it's, uh, that's that's 680 00:37:55,090 --> 00:37:58,049 S3: so thrilling. It really is. That's the grace of God. 681 00:37:58,090 --> 00:38:00,250 S3: That's the grace of God. You know, the grace of 682 00:38:00,250 --> 00:38:04,970 S3: God is God's favor in his power. And our role 683 00:38:04,969 --> 00:38:08,730 S3: is to say, stay so close to Jesus that we 684 00:38:08,770 --> 00:38:11,770 S3: are walking in that grace and then the Spirit of 685 00:38:11,770 --> 00:38:15,730 S3: God teleprompter us. At least he does me. Teleprompter us 686 00:38:15,730 --> 00:38:20,290 S3: with guidance on where to go and what the next 687 00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:22,569 S3: moves are on radio. And it's a beautiful thing to 688 00:38:22,610 --> 00:38:24,330 S3: witness lives change. Chris. 689 00:38:24,890 --> 00:38:28,090 S1: The most powerful thing we could do here on this 690 00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:30,850 S1: 100 years and two days or a day and a 691 00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:33,569 S1: half would be to pray. So let's take just the 692 00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:36,170 S1: next few minutes. Carl, why don't you lead us about this, 693 00:38:36,450 --> 00:38:39,530 S1: this pivot, this next 100 years or however long. 694 00:38:39,930 --> 00:38:43,250 S3: It's going to pray my heart here, Lord, I'm drawn 695 00:38:43,250 --> 00:38:46,090 S3: right now in my heart to Titus 211 and 12, 696 00:38:47,250 --> 00:38:49,770 S3: and I thank you that your grace saves us and 697 00:38:49,770 --> 00:38:56,450 S3: your grace trains us. Would you make us a moody, 698 00:38:56,450 --> 00:39:01,570 S3: global media place that trains in a way that we 699 00:39:01,570 --> 00:39:07,210 S3: renounce ungodliness, worldly passions, live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives 700 00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:11,930 S3: in this present age. Oh, God. And that we might. 701 00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:18,890 S3: Because of that, then, Lord, shine so brightly that others 702 00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:24,049 S3: will see that are born of you, born from above, 703 00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:27,490 S3: and will give glory to our father who is in heaven. 704 00:39:27,690 --> 00:39:32,210 S3: Oh Lord, it's it's a. It would be a daunting 705 00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:34,890 S3: thing to try to imagine. Where do we go? What 706 00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:38,330 S3: are the new things, the new innovations that you have 707 00:39:38,330 --> 00:39:42,330 S3: for us? But Lord, I thank you that you've led 708 00:39:42,330 --> 00:39:45,410 S3: for a hundred years and one and a half days here. 709 00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:49,730 S3: And we praise you that you've worked in the past, 710 00:39:49,730 --> 00:39:52,450 S3: and you will do it again. And we are confident 711 00:39:52,450 --> 00:39:56,529 S3: in that. Oh, God. We lift up one voice right 712 00:39:56,530 --> 00:39:59,370 S3: now and we say, we thank you. There is no 713 00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:02,569 S3: other God but you, no one like you. And I 714 00:40:02,570 --> 00:40:05,090 S3: give you thanks today in Jesus name. 715 00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:08,620 S2: And Lord, we trust not in our own understanding. We. 716 00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:11,859 S2: We trust in in your heart and your ways. And 717 00:40:11,860 --> 00:40:13,900 S2: we want to know your heart and your ways and 718 00:40:14,540 --> 00:40:17,140 S2: your heart and your ways are higher than ours. And 719 00:40:17,140 --> 00:40:20,940 S2: I pray right now, Lord Christ, you increase and may 720 00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:24,860 S2: we decrease. And even as we've spoken this last hour 721 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:28,819 S2: about Moody, I hope that we, anyone listening knows that 722 00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:31,259 S2: we know that you are the hero. And this is 723 00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:36,219 S2: not about the glory and prestige of Moody. This is 724 00:40:36,219 --> 00:40:40,020 S2: all about Jesus, King Jesus, and his ways. And so, Lord, 725 00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:44,819 S2: I pray that if we exist to 103 days, you 726 00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:47,780 S2: would continue to get the glory. And Lord, I pray 727 00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:51,460 S2: through the different ways that we move forward, that we 728 00:40:51,460 --> 00:40:55,940 S2: will continue to advance the mission and just meaningfully serve 729 00:40:55,940 --> 00:41:00,180 S2: audiences here in North America and South and Europe and 730 00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:03,379 S2: across the world. I pray that we would proclaim the 731 00:41:03,380 --> 00:41:07,660 S2: authority of Scripture faithfully and the gospel of Jesus Christ, 732 00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:10,540 S2: just like it's been done for the last ten decades, 733 00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:14,460 S2: I pray that we would build mature disciples equipped for 734 00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:18,100 S2: daily life, for their families and their workplaces and their 735 00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:22,620 S2: culture to suffer well and to be on mission with you, Lord, 736 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:26,380 S2: in a fractured and broken world. I pray that we 737 00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:30,020 S2: would be strengthening the church rather than fragmenting it. I 738 00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:33,180 S2: pray that we would not just be informing people about 739 00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:36,900 S2: stuff going on today, but we would be spiritually forming 740 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:39,700 S2: them in you. Lord, I pray that we would faithfully 741 00:41:39,739 --> 00:41:44,020 S2: handle Scripture. I pray that we would avoid novelty in 742 00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:48,900 S2: doctrine or extremism, or speculations that we would be able 743 00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:51,379 S2: to do things. When I think about Don Cole and 744 00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:53,660 S2: some of the names that have been mentioned here, their 745 00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:57,900 S2: ability to engage on secondary differences with great charity and humility, 746 00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:00,140 S2: I pray that we would do that. Help us to 747 00:42:00,180 --> 00:42:04,910 S2: clearly apply the Bible to everyday Christian life, demonstrate fruit 748 00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:08,710 S2: and all that we do, continuing to be a lighthouse 749 00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:13,190 S2: of hope and clarity and Lord, increasingly through different kinds 750 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:16,350 S2: of media, serve listeners and viewers and readers at varying 751 00:42:16,350 --> 00:42:20,790 S2: stages of faith without ever watering down the truth. I 752 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:24,350 S2: pray that we would be Christ centered, biblically grounded, pastoral 753 00:42:24,350 --> 00:42:27,950 S2: in tone, thoughtful rather than reactionary. Thank you for Chris 754 00:42:27,950 --> 00:42:33,790 S2: Fabry Convictional without being combative. And then Laura just accessible 755 00:42:33,790 --> 00:42:36,790 S2: and clear and trustworthy and gracious. And we say it 756 00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:39,830 S2: all the time. We would truly help listeners take next 757 00:42:39,830 --> 00:42:43,750 S2: steps with Jesus, if that's first steps, if that's establishing 758 00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:46,230 S2: them in the faith or equipping someone that's walked with 759 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:49,109 S2: the Lord like we heard earlier this hour. An 80 760 00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:51,990 S2: year old that's faithfully walked with you for decades, helping 761 00:42:51,989 --> 00:42:54,629 S2: her take her next steps of faith because she's not 762 00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:57,750 S2: done either. Yeah. Living faithfully for you. And I want 763 00:42:57,790 --> 00:42:59,509 S2: to live for you today. And I want Chris to. 764 00:42:59,550 --> 00:43:02,750 S2: And I want Carl to. May you increase and we decrease. 765 00:43:02,750 --> 00:43:03,750 S2: In your name I pray. 766 00:43:04,670 --> 00:43:08,030 S1: Father, thank you that the technology didn't preserve Moody Radio. 767 00:43:08,070 --> 00:43:11,590 S1: We've used technology. It was fantastic when the satellite came 768 00:43:11,590 --> 00:43:14,469 S1: along and we used it as much as we could. 769 00:43:14,469 --> 00:43:18,030 S1: But that didn't preserve us. The personalities didn't preserve us. 770 00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:21,950 S1: You did. And it is in your word that we 771 00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:26,310 S1: trust here today. I read what Paul says. Hold firmly 772 00:43:26,310 --> 00:43:29,870 S1: to the message of life. Would you allow us to 773 00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:33,550 S1: do that? And would you allow us to speak into 774 00:43:33,550 --> 00:43:37,710 S1: the lives of those who are listening and echo with Paul? 775 00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:42,589 S1: My goal is to know him and the power of 776 00:43:42,590 --> 00:43:48,070 S1: his resurrection and the fellowship of his sufferings, being conformed 777 00:43:48,070 --> 00:43:50,830 S1: to his death, assuming that I will somehow reach the 778 00:43:50,830 --> 00:43:54,150 S1: resurrection from among the dead. That's the kind of life 779 00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:57,470 S1: that we want to hold firmly to and speak here 780 00:43:57,469 --> 00:44:01,000 S1: on the radio each day. And I also thank you 781 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,600 S1: for those people a hundred years ago who wrote letters 782 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,520 S1: in and who gave during the depression. All through the decades, 783 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,560 S1: the people who have given to Moody Radio. They have 784 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,239 S1: been a vital part of how you have used them 785 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,160 S1: to continue Moody radio. And so we thank you for 786 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,560 S1: each person who has sacrificially given or who couldn't give. 787 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,919 S1: And if they have been praying for Moody Radio, we 788 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,439 S1: thank you for those people. Now, would you give us 789 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,040 S1: fresh vision for these next years, however many years you're 790 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,279 S1: going to give us, to transmit the gospel, the truth 791 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,000 S1: of the gospel in as many ways as possible. And 792 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,279 S1: we're going to give you the glory in Jesus name. Yeah. Amen. 793 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,439 S3: Amen. And let it be. 794 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,160 S1: I've got to tell you that Bob said, in the future, 795 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,560 S1: I would like Moody Radio to talk more about the 796 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,799 S1: many countries around the world that Moody impacts. And on 797 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,600 S1: some of these stations. Next week we're going to do 798 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,880 S1: that with. We're going to talk about just the way 799 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,200 S1: that God has used these older programs radio school, the 800 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,040 S1: Bible and other things to reach into the hearts and 801 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,640 S1: lives of people on other continents. Right. 802 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,080 S2: Yeah. Moody Global Campus, by the way, is something that 803 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,000 S2: I'm so eager for everyone to discover. And it's built 804 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,440 S2: on the the shoulders of radio school of the Bible. 805 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,120 S2: That was started right after radio started 100 years ago. 806 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,920 S2: It's exciting. 807 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,240 S1: Carl, I hope you feel encouraged today. This is really 808 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,000 S1: special to get to talk with you this late in 809 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:25,879 S1: the afternoon. 810 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,040 S3: It is touching and I mean that to be with 811 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,879 S3: you gentlemen, this is a good thing to rehearse the 812 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:32,920 S3: faithfulness of God. 813 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,719 S2: That's right. 814 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,879 S1: Bingo. Wes, thanks for your leadership. Keep doing what you're 815 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,440 S1: doing and come back and see us real soon, okay? 816 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,000 S2: Thank you. 817 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,480 S1: That's Wes Ward, vice president of Moody Radio and Moody 818 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,600 S1: Global Media. You pray for Wes and his leadership and 819 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,560 S1: the whole team. Carl Claussen, you got to tune in 820 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,680 S1: in the morning. Lead pastor of 180 Chicago Church and 821 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,000 S1: author of a number of books. One that's coming up 822 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,370 S1: in October is the unstoppable gospel, and I really thank 823 00:46:01,370 --> 00:46:04,090 S1: you for your support this month. I mentioned some numbers 824 00:46:04,130 --> 00:46:07,930 S1: a little earlier in the hour, even during July, when 825 00:46:08,210 --> 00:46:10,330 S1: a lot of people are on vacation and moving around, 826 00:46:10,610 --> 00:46:13,169 S1: this resource has been something that a lot of people 827 00:46:13,170 --> 00:46:17,810 S1: have wanted. This is Moody Radio 100 years proclaiming the gospel. 828 00:46:17,810 --> 00:46:19,489 S1: I'd love to send you a copy. If you go 829 00:46:19,489 --> 00:46:23,330 S1: to Chris fabry.org and scroll down, you see how you 830 00:46:23,330 --> 00:46:27,890 S1: can get a copy of that. Chris Fabry live dot ORG. Okay, 831 00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:31,290 S1: so we have one day left in the month, and 832 00:46:31,290 --> 00:46:34,489 S1: tomorrow I'm going to open the lines and we're going 833 00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:36,930 S1: to talk. We're going to have our last Moody radio 834 00:46:36,930 --> 00:46:40,650 S1: program about this anniversary, and I think it's going to 835 00:46:40,650 --> 00:46:42,370 S1: be a lot of fun. I hope you'll join us. 836 00:46:42,370 --> 00:46:45,810 S1: Chris Fabry Lives production of Moody Radio, a Ministry of 837 00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:47,530 S1: Moody Bible Institute.