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S1: Janet Parshall. Well, I'm not taking my eyes off the
S1: Middle East. I bet you're not either. President came home
S1: in a hurry yesterday from the G7 summit. Could have
S1: been there. All the great leaders of Europe were there
S1: and he said, nope. Got some business at home to
S1: take care of. Been meeting with his security team all
S1: day long. The word out right now is that we
S1: have control of the airspace over Iran. That's pretty important.
S1: In fact, the president announced we now have complete and
S1: total control of Iranian space, and the U.S. knows exactly
S1: where Ayatollah Khomeini is hiding. The president has said right now,
S1: we're not going to eliminate him, but we're giving him
S1: a chance to surrender, which I think this is a
S1: Churchillian moment. This is how you look at enemies in
S1: the face. Its strength. Right. Peace through strength. And you
S1: look him in the face, and you give him a
S1: chance to step down and step away before more Iranians
S1: are killed. And by the way, speaking of what's going
S1: on in Iran, people are leaving in historic numbers from Tehran.
S1: Is it easy? No. And this is a reason for
S1: you to be praying for the people of Iran as
S1: well as the people of Israel. Here is CBN news
S1: giving a fabulous report.
S5: As he left Canada, Trump wrote on Truth Social Iran
S5: should have signed the deal I told them to sign.
S5: Simply stated Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Everyone should
S5: immediately evacuate Tehran. A massive exodus of people are fleeing
S5: Iran's capital, as Israeli officials also urged thousands of people
S5: in Tehran on Monday to evacuate ahead of airstrikes. There
S5: are reports Iran is sending urgent signals to end the
S5: war and resume nuclear talks if the U.S. does not
S5: join the fight. Talking to ABC news, Israeli Prime Minister
S5: Benjamin Netanyahu said he doesn't see signs Iran is serious
S5: about ending the war.
S6: Well, we're going to see if Iran is serious about
S6: dismantling their nuclear program, dismantling their missile capacity, dismantling the
S6: terror access that terrorizes everybody in the Middle East and
S6: well beyond if they agree to all of that. Obviously,
S6: you know, the war could end if they lay down
S6: their arms, they lay down their weapons of mass death.
S6: That's different. But so far they haven't done it.
S5: Netanyahu also said Israel will not rule out targeting the
S5: ayatollah because taking him out would end the conflict. The
S5: IDF says it's hit more than 250 targets across Iran,
S5: estimating it's destroyed a third of the regime's ballistic missile
S5: launchers and continues to strike military infrastructure. Surface to surface
S5: missiles and UAVs, as in Gaza, Lebanon and Yemen, Israel
S5: sent Evacuation warnings to civilians in Tehran to avoid military targets.
S5: In the middle of a program. The IDF also hit
S5: the Irib, Iran's state broadcaster considered a key propaganda arm
S5: of the regime.
S7: The center's activities were carried out under the direct guidance
S7: and mission of the Revolutionary Guard. For years, the Revolutionary
S7: Guard has called for the destruction of the State of
S7: Israel and genocide.
S5: Monday night, Netanyahu said the campaign is far from over.
S8: We have more goals and we're really going to do
S8: a root canal here. We're changing the face of the
S8: Middle East, and this can lead to far reaching changes,
S8: even within Iran itself.
S9: Iran today is seeing the fastest growth of Christianity than
S9: in any other country in the world today. And they
S9: are on fire.
S5: CBN's George Thomas has reported Extensively on the underground church
S5: in Iran.
S9: The church is on fire. The Iranian regime is scared
S9: to death of the. Of the rising evangelical movement inside
S9: the country. Not so much about a threat. You know
S9: that they want to depose the regime politically, but they
S9: want to they want to bring a new spirit, uh,
S9: to the country. And there's a tremendous prayer movement that
S9: has been unleashed, uh, in across Iran for many, many years.
S9: So many people seeing dreams and visions, seeing Jesus Christ
S9: in dreams and visions.
S5: He says believers inside Iran need prayer now more than ever.
S9: So pray for continued boldness and the strength and the
S9: courage in the days ahead. Because you know the regime,
S9: when they're cornered, when they're under the spotlight and under
S9: the gun, so to speak, they tend to take their
S9: frustration and their anger on their own people.
S5: Chris Mitchell, CBN news, Jerusalem.
S1: My friend George Thomas is spot on and it echoes
S1: exactly what Doctor Herman has been saying from Iran Alive Ministry.
S1: Remember how many times he comes here and visits and
S1: says that they are changing the nation, one soul at
S1: a time, and that they've decided that Islam doesn't meet
S1: the needs of their heart. Then they stepped away, tried
S1: to be, well, atheist for a while. That left them
S1: empty hearted and empty handed, and they're turning in record
S1: numbers to Christ. At the same time, we have an
S1: exiled prince who's sending through X messages to the Iranian
S1: people saying, I'm ready to come back. We're ready to
S1: start all over again without the ayatollahs. So boy, is
S1: there stuff happening in Tehran and in Iran. And it's
S1: a whole lot more than just bunker busters. Pray for Iran,
S1: pray for wisdom for leaders. Pray for Israel. This is
S1: a crucial tipping point in world history. Back after this.
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S1: Time to put on our thinking caps and to be
S1: thinking critically and biblically to help us do that. As
S1: Doctor Michael Njue, an assistant professor of practice at the
S1: Bush School of Business at the Catholic University of America.
S1: That's a mouthful. And a senior associate scholar at the
S1: Charlotte Lozier Institute. He writes all the time at National
S1: Review Online. And I'm so grateful he does, because I
S1: get to glean from his wisdom and he writes about
S1: such tremendously important things. Michael, the warmest of welcomes. I
S1: can't wait to start first with this new Gallup poll,
S1: but I simply must, in light of this stunningly evil
S1: news that comes out of the UK today, let me
S1: just give you a quick thumbnail and get you to respond.
S1: In fact, it was the Archbishop, the lead bishop for
S1: life issues for the Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales,
S1: commenting today. And it just happened today on a vote
S1: on the Crime and Policing Bill. And here's what he said. Today,
S1: Parliament passed an amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill
S1: that effectively decriminalizes abortion in England and Wales. Were deeply
S1: alarmed by this decision. Our alarm arises from our compassion
S1: for both mothers and unborn babies. New clause one lifts
S1: any criminal liability for women performing their abortions for any reason,
S1: at any time, including up to and during birth. This
S1: decision significantly reduces the protection of unborn lives and will
S1: result in grave harm for pregnant women. Women will even
S1: be more vulnerable to manipulation, coerced, and forced abortions. This
S1: legal challenge will also discourage medical consultation and make the
S1: use of abortion pills for dangerous, late term, at home
S1: abortions more likely. You're not supposed to use the drug
S1: past ten weeks. This is talking about having abortions being
S1: decriminalized up through 40 weeks up to the moment of birth. Michael.
S1: It's stunning. There was a prohibition to abortions after 24
S1: weeks in the UK up to this point. Now it's
S1: they've opened the gates of hell. I am, I'm just
S1: I'm stunned. Your reaction?
S10: No. It's tragic. I mean, you had in Great Britain
S10: the Abortion Act back in 1967. And sadly, Britain was,
S10: you know, one of the first countries in Europe to
S10: really legalise abortion. And that was up to 24 weeks.
S10: That said, like a lot of their counterparts in Europe,
S10: you know, they did have some protections for pre-born children
S10: late in gestation. That's true for many countries in Europe.
S10: It's really sad to see them expand abortion in this way. Um,
S10: you know, I don't see any big change in public
S10: attitudes in Britain on this issue. I'm not sure why
S10: Parliament decided to go in this direction, but it is tragic.
S10: I mean, I don't think Europe is a model, but
S10: I do think at least many European countries do have good,
S10: solid legal limits protecting the preborn. You know, after the
S10: second trimester. Sadly, in Britain, that is no longer the case.
S1: Yeah. Stunning. Just again. Other than this being a spiritual war,
S1: I can't begin to imagine why they felt that this
S1: had to be done at this point in time. Just
S1: absolutely stunning. But closer to home, let's talk about where
S1: America is right now. And so Gallup does this, where
S1: they do an annual poll on sanctity of life issues.
S1: You were Johnny on the spot, as you always are, Michael.
S1: Tell me what the poll asked and what the results were.
S10: Yeah. We got some good news. As you mentioned, Gallup
S10: does a poll every year on abortion. And the good
S10: thing about the Gallup poll is they typically ask the
S10: same question. So it's a very good way to track
S10: public opinion and trends in public opinion over time. And
S10: this year we got some good news. We found that
S10: the percentage of people who identify as pro-life went up.
S10: They asked people to identify as pro-choice or pro-life, and
S10: the percentage of people identifying as pro-life increased from 41%
S10: to 43%. So a two percentage point gain. Not spectacular,
S10: but it's at least going in the right direction. Yes, yes.
S10: And we also, you know, there are other questions also
S10: indicate kind of greater pro-life sentiment. There was a small
S10: gain in the percentage of people who thought that abortion
S10: was morally unacceptable. That was a good sign. There's also
S10: a small percentage gain, the percentage of people who thought
S10: that abortion should be either illegal in all cases or
S10: legal in only a few cases. So a number of
S10: questions kind of showed an increase in pro-life sentiment.
S1: Wow. So again, I will take any victory. I'll take
S1: it if I give an inch at a time or
S1: a mile at a time. But it's moving, as you
S1: noted rightly, in the right direction. Just from your astute
S1: vantage point, why? Why are the numbers moving at all?
S1: Why are they moving in the right direction?
S10: Well, first, I think the move in the right direction
S10: is important because in many respects, 2024 could have been
S10: a very tough year for pro-lifers. Kamala Harris made legal
S10: abortion the centerpiece of her presidential campaign and campaigned pretty
S10: aggressively on this issue. Meanwhile, Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, uh,
S10: he did not come out in favor of any kind
S10: of federal legislation to protect the Preborn, uh, during this campaign.
S10: He also didn't really make any kind of a strong
S10: case for existing pro-life laws. So I've always thought that
S10: the pro-life movement is always helped by Republican candidate who
S10: at least makes a good pro-life argument on stage. Uh,
S10: that didn't happen with Donald Trump and the debates that we, uh,
S10: we had, uh, that's why the public opinion moving in
S10: good direction. So I just think it's kind of a
S10: regression to the mean. Uh, I think in the aftermath
S10: of Dobbs, uh, there was a gain in, quote unquote,
S10: pro-abortion sentiment. Uh, you know, the media coverage, uh, was
S10: not fair. I think a lot of people misunderstood the decision.
S10: They thought it would be an abortion everywhere, which it didn't.
S10: I think that, you know, once people have kind of
S10: seen the aftermath of Dobbs, uh, and it's been three years, almost, um,
S10: you know, their opinions are kind of trending back to
S10: where they were in the past. So I see this,
S10: by and large, as a bit of a regression to
S10: the mean.
S1: Yeah. Wow. Insight, as always, Michael, thank you so very
S1: much for that. Well, we're not done because Michael again
S1: has written another piece. And this one I think is
S1: equally as important. And I want you to hear what
S1: his thoughts are about where young people are when it
S1: comes to the pro-life movement. Doctor Michael Njoo is with us.
S1: I've got great links on my website, by the way.
S1: He's back. The article that we just talked about was
S1: on National Review Online. I've got a hot link for
S1: you to be able to check that out. I've also
S1: got a link, by the way, to the Charlotte two
S1: following x. I'm changed it this time. I want people
S1: to be able to follow Michael on X, so I've
S1: got a direct link to his X account there as well.
S1: So check it out in the market with Janet Parshall.
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S1: and it'll take you where you need to go. More
S1: with Doctor Michael Njoo right after this. Always a joy
S1: to spend time with Doctor Michael Njoo, who is a
S1: professor at the business school at the Catholic University of America.
S1: He's also a senior associate scholar at the Charlotte Lozier Institute,
S1: and he writes regularly for National Review Online. And he
S1: did a superb job of breaking down this annual poll
S1: that Gallup does. I'm glad they do it. By the way,
S1: on where Americans stand on the issue of sanctity of life.
S1: And so just rightfully noted that while these aren't mother,
S1: may I take a giant step? Steps. These are baby steps.
S1: They're moving in the right direction. So we win this
S1: battle one heart at a time. But it seems to
S1: me probably the very most important demographic in this polling
S1: pool would be young people. You dug into that, Michael,
S1: what did you find?
S10: Well, it's interesting that, you know, when Gallup released the results,
S10: they highlight what they think is important. And they highlighted
S10: a gender gap between men and women. They highlighted political polarization.
S10: One thing they didn't talk about was the fact that
S10: this poll provides very strong evidence that young people, you know,
S10: young adults aged 18 to 29 are becoming a lot
S10: more pro-life. If you compare the 2025 Gallup poll to
S10: the 2023 Gallup poll, the percentage of young people who
S10: identify as pro-life increased by eight percentage points. That's a
S10: pretty big jump in two years. Secondly, percentage of young
S10: people who thought abortion should be a legal option in
S10: all circumstances fell by 14 points. So a number of
S10: questions show that in a two year time span, you know,
S10: young people are a lot more likely to identify as pro-life.
S10: They're less likely to think abortion should be a legal
S10: option in all circumstances. So we made some real headway
S10: with young people in a relatively short amount of time.
S1: Yeah. And again, I'm thrilled. So I'm a white person,
S1: you know that when you come to visit. So I'm
S1: hoping that perhaps, maybe one of the reasons for the
S1: shift and again, we don't have permission and we weren't
S1: created by God with x ray eyes to look into
S1: somebody's heart so we can just look at the outside
S1: and try to guess what some of the causal factors
S1: are here. I'm wondering when you look at this particular demographic,
S1: if it's maybe, perhaps particularly for women, I don't know
S1: if it's as much for men, but they've seen their
S1: friends go through this. And while they, quote, got rid
S1: of their problem, their inconvenience, it didn't make them happier.
S1: They weren't joyous. There was a sadness, a brokenness in
S1: the heart, the spirit mentally, physically. There could have been
S1: a price that was paid. And they thought, you know,
S1: it's not get rid of your problem. It isn't this
S1: clump of cells and, you know, and Alice in Wonderland,
S1: take this little pill and all your problems will go away.
S1: It wasn't that at all that there are concentric circles
S1: of impacts for an irreversible decision. I know you must
S1: have looked at this as well. And I know you
S1: play with the numbers beautifully, but you also must be
S1: thinking what are causal factors? So why do you think
S1: the shift.
S10: Well it's interesting. One thing we're noticing right now is
S10: that young men are actually a lot more likely to
S10: attend church. Uh, there's a big body of evidence to
S10: show that when you look at, you know, demographics of
S10: church attendees among almost every age demographic, uh, women are
S10: more likely to attend than men. But among young people,
S10: young men are attending church in a lot higher numbers.
S10: So I think that's actually driving. I think you do
S10: see greater pro-life sentiment among young men, especially this poll
S10: didn't really go into that. Uh, but we do see
S10: in Great Britain, uh, they did a poll recently and
S10: British men aged 16 to 34 were actually the demographic
S10: most opposed to legal abortion. So I do think you
S10: have something interesting happening among men who are more churchgoing,
S10: more conservative, pushing back against the culture. I think that's
S10: playing a role. I do think what you said is
S10: also correct, that, you know, women do see their peers
S10: and friends obtaining abortion and the right. It's not a
S10: cure all. It doesn't. You know, there may be some
S10: short term relief, but there is, you know, consequences. There
S10: are after effects. And I do think, you know, women
S10: are aware of that. And I think that's playing a
S10: role as well.
S1: Yeah. I think you're very spot on. Let me go
S1: back to the poll that you referenced in your article
S1: coming out of Great Britain. Again, I'm thrilled to hear
S1: that there is a linkage potentially between men who go
S1: to church and men who are less likely to support
S1: legal abortion than any other demographic group. It has everything
S1: to do with a biblical worldview. We talk about this
S1: all the time on this program. It is that grid
S1: through which you push all your life decisions, and it's
S1: biblical centric when it's built on transcendent truth. It is
S1: amazing how all of a sudden the world goes from
S1: black and white into Technicolor. We talk about that all
S1: the time on this program. You wonder also if men
S1: because we we fail so often to recognize the dad's
S1: role in all of this, that if it's my body,
S1: my choice, a man, the dad doesn't have anything to
S1: say most of the time. So there's some real heartbreaking
S1: stories about this. I'm wondering if, in addition to church,
S1: it was the fact that it wasn't just the mother
S1: who lost the child, it was the father who lost
S1: the child as well.
S10: True. I mean, Post-abortive men are, you know, very powerful spokespeople.
S10: Men are often left out of this discussion. They're often
S10: left out of the conversation. You know, I know men
S10: are often very upset. You know, I run a pro-life
S10: sidewalk counseling ministry outside the D.C. Planned Parenthood. You know,
S10: I've talked to men who are very upset about the
S10: decision their partners making. There's even an individual who comes
S10: and joins us, holds up a sign, you know, very powerful.
S10: Said something to the effect of, you know, pregnancy loss,
S10: you know, 1992 to 2025, you know, 33 years of
S10: lost fatherhood. And I still regret it. So he stands
S10: very quietly with a sign. It's very powerful. You know,
S10: I think that's playing a role as well. I think
S10: that men who are involved, you know, whose partners have
S10: had abortion, especially when they didn't feel included, especially when
S10: they feel it was against their wishes, you know, they
S10: become a very strong pro-life constituency.
S1: Wow, Michael, I can't tell you how impressed I am
S1: that all the research that you do in the world
S1: of academia and the crunching of the numbers, and then
S1: writing it in such a way that the culture understands
S1: surveys and reports and data. And yet, I want to
S1: make sure our friends heard what you just said, that
S1: you run a pro-life ministry outside of an abortion clinic
S1: in Washington, DC. Give me 30s of what's that like?
S1: Does it how do you keep going? And I bet
S1: there are a lot of people listening who would ask
S1: the same question. How do you keep going when you
S1: see two people walk in one that's visible with the
S1: naked eye, one that's not, and one person walks out.
S1: How do you deal with that? Why do you go
S1: back every Saturday?
S10: You just be prayerful. I mean, I love doing radio.
S10: I love writing, but, you know, we can't win this
S10: flying a desk. You know, we have to be where
S10: abortions are happening. So I just felt called to be there.
S10: Be a prayerful presence, offer alternatives. I need the prayers
S10: of all your listeners to spiritual battle. But it's important
S10: to do it. And I'll be there this Saturday and
S10: every Saturday I'm in town.
S1: Amen. I just love this guy. Michael, thank you so much.
S1: What a joy. Keep writing. Keep letting me know when
S1: your articles are coming out, because I gallop. I swallow
S1: and gobble down everything that you write. So thank you
S1: for that. Again, I want you to follow him on X.
S1: So I've got a link on my information page. So
S1: you can just do that and follow him. Also the
S1: first article we talked about actually it's the same poll
S1: to the Gallup poll that was just done. I've got
S1: a link so you can read some more for yourself.
S1: Thank you Michael. We're going to take a break. Friends.
S1: Be right back after this. There's a sense of anxiety
S1: in our country, and I know you feel it, too.
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S1: with Janet parshall.org. So in case you don't know this,
S1: God is not a big fan of global consolidations. How
S1: do I know that? Well, because I read his word
S1: and I give you the Tower of Babel and a
S1: fellow by the name of Nimrod. And when they were
S1: trying to create this global entity, what did God do?
S1: He scattered the nations and they each spoke in a
S1: different tongue. Right? Not only that, but the Old Testament
S1: is replete with nations setting boundaries. And those boundaries were
S1: guarded and they were defended. And God is very big
S1: on the idea of national sovereignty. I tell you that
S1: as a backdrop, because when you see global events happening
S1: that move in stark directions, the opposite directions of what
S1: God said, you better pay attention. And somebody who's paying attention,
S1: like nobody I know is Reggie Littlejohn, one of my
S1: personal heroes. She's the founder and president of Women's Rights
S1: Without Frontiers. She's so many things. She wears 15 different hats,
S1: all of them beautifully. By the way, she's a graduate
S1: of Yale Law School. She's an acclaimed international expert on
S1: China's one child policy. Now their three child policy. Her
S1: organization has been called the leading voice in the battle
S1: to expose and oppose forced abortion and gendercide. But she's
S1: also gotten very involved in this issue of globalism, and
S1: particularly what the W.H.O., the World Health Organization and the
S1: UN and other global entities are trying to do. And so,
S1: as a result, her battles now have expanded to the
S1: issue of defending national sovereignty. In fact, if you go
S1: to her website, I love the fact that she has
S1: Joan of Arc right at the top of the page,
S1: the Anti-globalist international, and the subset says Resisting the Great Reset.
S1: This all comes out of Soros and what's going on
S1: at Davos and all this other stuff we talk about
S1: all the time. But in May, something very significant happened,
S1: something that Reggie and I have been talking about, and
S1: that was this unbridled power grab by the World Health
S1: Organization to basically say, we're King's Unappointed Self-anointed, and we're
S1: going to determine what constitutes a pandemic, and we're going
S1: to tell other nations what they need to do. Thanks
S1: be to God. America said, thanks, but no thanks. We're
S1: not going to plan this. It didn't stop them, however,
S1: from moving forward. And that's why I want to bring
S1: Reggie into the conversation so she can give you an update.
S1: And again, this isn't fear mongering, it's about being a
S1: watchman on the wall. Nehemiah Wright, watchman on the wall
S1: watching what's happening. So, Reggie May 20th. What happened?
S11: Hi, Janet. Thank you so much for having me on.
S11: On May 20th, the World Health Assembly, which is the
S11: annual gathering of the World Health Organization, voted to pass
S11: the pandemic treaty. And what this does is it, as
S11: you said, it makes the W.H.O. front and center in
S11: terms of directing international health policy. So what they say
S11: in the preamble is that the World Health Organization is
S11: the directing and coordinating authority on international health work. This
S11: is not just to deal with existing pandemics. It's also
S11: between pandemics. And also they are expecting all member organizations
S11: to amend their domestic, legal and regulatory frameworks to align
S11: with the World Health Organization and the treaty. So they're absolutely,
S11: like you said, making themselves king, you know, self-appointed self-anointed. Yeah, exactly.
S11: Go in, go into some of the problems with this agreement.
S1: Please do. But let me, just as a point of
S1: reference here for my friends, remember what it was like
S1: when we had little potentates here in this country basically
S1: become powers and fiefdoms onto their own and said, you
S1: can't go to church. Oh, we'll keep the abortion clinics
S1: in the liquor store and the tattoo shops open, but
S1: you can't go to church. And a lot of churches
S1: acquiesced until they went, no, no, this far and no farther.
S1: And they pushed back and said, you don't have that
S1: kind of control and authority. This is monstrously on a
S1: global stage. So again, these are not elected officials who
S1: have said to other countries, again, disrespecting the concept of
S1: national sovereignty, we're going to take over. So tell me
S1: exactly what happened. How does this break down?
S11: Well, one of the things I want to emphasize is
S11: that even though President Trump thanked God, withdrew us from
S11: the World Health Organization, what the World Health Organization does
S11: can still just greatly affect us. So here's a couple
S11: of examples. One is the Pathogen Access and benefit sharing system.
S11: And this system to me is just crazy. What it
S11: does is it encourages nations to go out into their
S11: jungles or wherever and find pathogens that could cause pandemics
S11: and then send them to the World Health Organization. You know,
S11: what they should do is just leave those in the
S11: jungle and just quarantine them.
S1: Right, exactly.
S11: You know, but but you send them to the World
S11: Health Organization, and then the World Health Organization will then
S11: send them to labs all over the world, purportedly so
S11: that they will, you know, create vaccines or other therapeutics.
S11: But what this does is it greatly expands the chances
S11: of another lab leak, like like the one that happened
S11: with Covid 19, which now the most credible theory is
S11: that it did leak from a lab and not did
S11: not spread from a bat, a bat. So it increases
S11: the chances of lab leaks. It increases the chances of
S11: these pathogens getting into the wrong hands of somebody who
S11: would want to, you know, launch a bioterrorist attack. Um,
S11: and what this does is it creates basically a never
S11: ending stream of income for big pharma with all the
S11: vaccines that the World Health Organization has no doubt going
S11: to recommend to deal with these pandemics. And it also
S11: gives countries who are so inclined the pretext to keep
S11: their citizens locked down and out of church and all
S11: the rest of it. So, um, it's a recipe for
S11: totalitarian control. So and this will affect the United States
S11: because pathogens know no boundaries. And if we're going to
S11: get infected just like everybody else, and if the entire
S11: rest of the world is shut down, it's going to
S11: affect the United States in terms of supply chains and
S11: everything else.
S1: Let me contextualize that again too, because excellent. Brilliant as always. Points.
S1: So first of all, the arrogance, the hubris of the W.H.O. saying,
S1: send it to us, we'll send it to labs. Thanks,
S1: but no thanks again. When did you get anointed king?
S1: Second of all, it'd be great if we were all
S1: good actors. But basically, given the human condition, I wouldn't
S1: trust anybody to put this in the hands of the WTO.
S1: In fact, on that note, tell our friends who the
S1: Secretary is for the W.H.O..
S11: Well, um, the director general is. His name is um,
S11: Tedros Ghebreyesus, and he is, uh, like a Marxist from
S11: Ethiopia and was put in office, uh, according to credible reports,
S11: more or less by the Chinese Communist Party and played
S11: a major role in basically just parroting the lies of
S11: the Chinese Communist Party at the beginning of the last pandemic,
S11: where they said there was no human to human transmission,
S11: and he just blasted that out all over the world. Um,
S11: they said that there was no need to to shut
S11: down flights from China. He blasted that out over the world.
S11: And what that did is it enabled the whole world
S11: to get infected. Because.
S1: Exactly.
S11: Because no one was on their guard. Because W.H.O. said
S11: there's no human to human transmission. And then China was
S11: sending flights all over the world, so the whole world
S11: got infected.
S1: That's exactly right. And by the way, on that note,
S1: aside from the fact that they're complicit, who knows how
S1: many deaths are attributable to what the secretary general of
S1: the W.H.O. did? And he was working as an operative
S1: for the communist government, which makes me physically ill. But
S1: we just arrested, talked to Bill Gertz in the Washington
S1: Times yesterday, Reggie. And he reports about these three Chinese
S1: nationals that brought in these these toxins. One was designed
S1: to go specifically after what they call crap. So they
S1: called it agro terror. So it hit wheat and barley
S1: and maize and rice without in the smokeless war that
S1: China wants to engage in without firing a bullet, they
S1: could wipe out our crops. Second of all, one is
S1: called a vomit toxin. And it's got parasites. Ringworms that
S1: not only would make people sick, but would make the
S1: animals sick, diarrhea, vomit, lose their weight. It would destroy
S1: our crops as well. So I bring that up only
S1: because those are the ideas. Again, if Fox sends a bioterrorism.
S1: So you're going to find a pathogen in some forest somewhere,
S1: send it to the W.H.O. so they can then send
S1: it to lab so they can create a vaccine. And oh,
S1: by the way, how many of our antibiotics are currently
S1: being manufactured in China? Follow the dots here. It doesn't
S1: end well.
S11: Well, yeah. I mean this is okay. What people need
S11: to understand is that the Chinese Communist Party declared a
S11: people's war on the United States long ago. They consider
S11: us to be an enemy. We, especially under Biden, um,
S11: you know, consider them basically to be a competitor. No,
S11: they are an enemy. Their goal is by 2049, which
S11: is the 100 year anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party takeover,
S11: that they want to be the world hegemon. They want
S11: to be the main dominant force in the world. And
S11: standing in their way is the United States. And so
S11: we should not be getting so many of our pharmaceutical
S11: medications from China or also our military parts, the parts
S11: that we use in our in our military equipment. A
S11: lot of it comes from our enemies. This is not.
S11: This is very, very unwise, to say the least.
S1: Exactly right. Wow. Okay. So part of this is again,
S1: who says you send us these pathogens and we'll take
S1: it from here. What else happened as a result of this?
S11: Well, there's a number of things. One of the other
S11: things is that that countries who signed on to this,
S11: that they are required to strengthen their domestic regulations in
S11: order to fast track approvals of vaccines and other medications.
S11: And so this is what happened even under Covid, is
S11: that these vaccines were fast tracked. And what it does
S11: is it short circuits important safety and testing protocols so
S11: that people can end up being being injured by these
S11: fast tracked pharmaceuticals. So that's also another concerning thing that
S11: it does. Another thing that it.
S1: Forgive me for interrupting, but you're so brilliant. I want
S1: to ask a question. So with your lawyer's brain, The
S1: first thing that goes through my little pipsqueak mind is liability.
S1: So you fast track this. You create a vaccine. You
S1: have irreparable harm. You don't have the protections in place
S1: to do longitudinal studies on various study groups. So who
S1: do you get to sue when the vaccine damages somebody?
S11: Well, that is also not really spelled out in the
S11: pandemic treaty. I mean, they talk about countries possibly, you know,
S11: setting up some kind of a mechanism, but it certainly
S11: is not spelled out. So it's not like it's not
S11: like they set up a situation of fast tracking vaccines
S11: and also a situation of compensating victims. No, that that
S11: is that is not the case. Um, and I think that,
S11: as you know, you know, in the United States, there's
S11: a lot of liability protection for vaccine manufacturers. And the
S11: people who find themselves injured have a really hard time. Um,
S11: it's very difficult, if not impossible, to get compensated. So
S11: it's a really, really tragic situation.
S1: Couldn't agree more. Couldn't agree more. Oh, Reggie, we need
S1: to do a whole hour. Half an hour? Simply not enough.
S1: There's a ton more. I'm glad Reggie is still with us.
S1: By the way, I got a bunch of links on
S1: my information page. I have a link, by the way,
S1: to Anti-globalist dot net. This is the one where you'll
S1: see Joan of Arc. They have a manifesto. Please read it.
S1: Prayerfully consider signing it as well. All right. Remember, national
S1: sovereignty isn't just a geopolitical idea. It didn't come out
S1: of the UN. It's a biblical idea. At its start.
S1: And it's crucially important. Also on the other side, they've
S1: got this connection to this power grab. And their goal,
S1: as Reggie has pointed out, is total control. Reggie's got
S1: a fabulous article on that. All of that on my
S1: information page. More with Reggie Littlejohn right after this. Reggie
S1: Littlejohn is with us, founder and president of Women's Rights
S1: Without Frontiers. Reggie, you should know, has testified multiple times
S1: on Capitol Hill. She's delivered briefings three times at the
S1: European Parliament, twice at the British has spoken at the
S1: Irish and Canadian Parliaments, The Hague, the UN, the State Department,
S1: the white House and the Vatican as well. Unbelievably gifted warrior.
S1: I think it's an appropriate symbol to have Joan of
S1: Arc on her website, because I think that's exactly who
S1: she is. She is a Joan of Arc. So we're
S1: talking about the fact that the W.H.O. and its arrogance did,
S1: in fact pass this Who pandemic agreement on May 20th, 2025.
S1: Even though thanks be to God, the U.S. is not
S1: a participant and has backed off from the W.H.O.. As
S1: Reggie rightly points out, the ramifications of this have a
S1: global impact. And so some of the things we've talked
S1: about already, you see, could impact the United States, even
S1: if we refuse to put ourselves in subjugation or cede
S1: sovereignty to an international globalist organization. So there's so many
S1: aspects of this that are problematic, Reggie. One of them
S1: is this idea of free speech and censorship. That is
S1: a global problem. How does the W.H.O. agreement impact this?
S11: Well, that's a that's an excellent question. So in the
S11: pandemic agreement, it in the preamble. It requires nations to, quote,
S11: prevent misinformation and disinformation, end quote. So that's frightening because,
S11: you know, it's one thing to censor something once it's done.
S11: In other words, like, let's say they wanted to censor
S11: this interview. They could just take it down, right? Take
S11: it down off of YouTube or whatever, whatever platform, what
S11: they want to do is prevent us from ever having
S11: the interview. They want to prevent this, this word from
S11: ever going out to begin with. So that's that is
S11: actually very frightening. And it does impact the United States because, um,
S11: there's even a legal struggle now going on, um, with
S11: certain social media platforms in Europe where people in the
S11: United States will say things that that the W.H.O. or
S11: in Europe, they say, well, that's misinformation or disinformation. Um,
S11: and you you need to censor this in Europe. The
S11: Europeans cannot hear this. And then, you know, our government
S11: is saying, no, you know, we stand for free speech,
S11: but it does impact people in the United States. If
S11: there's censorship internationally.
S1: 1,000%. And these platforms, by the way, many of which
S1: are based in the United States, have a global impact.
S1: So there is no way this wouldn't blow back on
S1: us in some way. But the word prevention, particularly through
S1: your lawyer's mind, is an egregious term, because exactly how
S1: does that get implemented? What is the trigger? How does
S1: one prevent. How do you take down? It's an existential question.
S1: How do you take down that which hasn't been posted yet?
S1: I find this to be ludicrous. And again, it's just
S1: emblematic of this inflated sense of importance and, uh, self-anointed
S1: ness that the W.H.O. has to prevent it. And why
S1: this is even more problematic if we're watching the free
S1: speech abridgments that are taking place, for example, in the UK,
S1: where cops are literally showing up at people's front doors
S1: and arresting them. This is in the United Kingdom. This
S1: is a kind of parallel. Thank goodness we had a
S1: little revolution that separated us, but they're like us in
S1: a lot of ways. They're knocking on front doors and
S1: taking people off to jail for things they've posted on
S1: the internet. Well, that's an after the fact. how in
S1: the world. And it's a it's a philosophical, but I
S1: think it's an important question. How do you prevent mis
S1: and disinformation before it even exists?
S11: Well, you know, hauling people off to jail for something
S11: that they posted on the internet is is the China model.
S11: So we're back to the Chinese influence again. And how
S11: do they prevent stuff from happening? Well, I mean, they've
S11: got a social credit score system where if you, um,
S11: if you say something that they don't like, your score
S11: goes down, and if it goes down far enough, they
S11: will sever you from your bank account and your credit card.
S11: And if you continue to be a dissident voice, they
S11: will just disappear. You meaning that you will not one
S11: day you're never seen again. Um, so that's how they
S11: do it in China. And it's and that was one
S11: of the reasons probably the main, one of the main
S11: reasons I even got on to this issue was because,
S11: you know, my background is in Chinese, in opposing forced
S11: abortion in China. But I saw the tactics that the
S11: Chinese Communist Party was using coming to the world through
S11: the World Health Organization. So that's how they that's how
S11: they prevent people who won't stop spewing what they call misinformation. Disinformation,
S11: what we would call truth.
S1: Yeah. Wow. Wow. It makes George Orwell look pale by comparison.
S1: It's absolutely stunning. Well, speaking of that credit system in China,
S1: talk about the digital ID part of this treaty.
S11: That is such that that to me is is in
S11: many ways the center of the tree. Maybe that and
S11: the pathogen access and benefit sharing system. But the treaty
S11: works together with the International Health Regulation amendments, which passed
S11: a year ago, a year ago May. And in those amendments,
S11: they go into detail about everybody in the world being
S11: required to have some form of a health ID. So
S11: in developed nations who would be digital, in undeveloped nations
S11: who would could still be paper. Um, and they are
S11: rolling it out. I mean, they Tedros Ghebreyesus announced in
S11: a June 5th of 2023 that they were rolling these
S11: out internationally. As you go on to the World Economic
S11: Forum website, you'll see the full amount of all the
S11: things that these are meant to, um, to address. In
S11: other words, you're going to need a digital ID to
S11: access healthcare, open a bank account, buy and sell online travel,
S11: access social media, file your taxes, vote, collect government benefits
S11: like Medicare and Medicaid. I want a telecommunications device, such
S11: as a cell phone or a laptop, and participate in
S11: social media. So this is something that is, um, that's
S11: just like a copy of what they do in China. Um, and,
S11: and could issue a social credit system worldwide through the
S11: World Health Organization and the World Economic Forum.
S1: But it's okay. So a million questions raised as to this.
S1: And again, when all else fails, talk to a lawyer
S1: because you've got the great answers for this. So this
S1: idea of creating a China social Credit like system globally
S1: again speaks to the the arrogance of the W.H.O.. Because
S1: we're not a player for this. We're not going to
S1: do this. Now. How would that impact us if we're
S1: trying to travel? Would they even know you have a
S1: US passport? They would prevent you to going to countries
S1: that have signed on that do have digital ID. Sorry,
S1: folks can't come in. You don't have a digital ID.
S1: The one question I have in the little time that
S1: we have left, and I'm a fool for not having
S1: done this for an hour because there's so much more.
S1: We are not a player, but as you've said, it's
S1: like dropping a stone in a pond in their concentric
S1: circles of impact. And the US is, regardless of whether
S1: a signatory or not, is going to have some impact
S1: as a result of all of this, what are the
S1: next steps? Do we play offense in the United States?
S1: Do we build a wall of protection through public policy?
S1: What do we do?
S3: Well.
S11: RFK Jr has said Argentina also withdrew, and he has
S11: said he's issued an international call for people to different
S11: countries to leave the World Health Organization and to join
S11: a consortium of free nations to address healthcare issues together,
S11: not under the auspices of the W.H.O.. And I think
S11: that that's the path forward.
S1: Yeah, I think that's an absolutely brilliant idea. So he
S1: proposes an idea. Now we have to get the will
S1: right of the Congress to be able to implement something
S1: like that.
S11: I don't know if you need Congress for that. I
S11: think that as the head of HHS, that he can
S11: probably just do it, you know.
S1: Well, let's hope he does it. And if he said it,
S1: maybe he will. Reggie, you have a ton of information.
S1: Tell me quickly in the few minutes that we have left,
S1: tell me about the manifesto. Why should people sign it?
S1: What happens with the manifesto?
S11: So this is an anti-globalist international, and that's an anti-globalist net.
S11: And what this manifesto is, is it starts out saying
S11: we are living in a globalist coup, affected by wealthy
S11: and powerful international elite, determined to enslave humanity to its
S11: own advantage. And it goes from there. And it will explain.
S1: And I thank you, Reggie, so much. We'll see you
S1: next time, friends.