WEBVTT - Winning the Lost, No Matter the Cost, Part 1

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<v S1>One plants, one waters. God gives the increase. The sower

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<v S1>and the reaper get the same reward. Who's the sower?

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<v S1>The one that put the seed in the heart soil.

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<v S1>Who's the reaper? The one that prayed with him. The

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<v S1>one that actually was there when they actually came to Christ?

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<v S1>You mean both of them? Yes.

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<v S2>Welcome to Treasure Truth with pastor and author James Ford, junior,

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<v S2>senior pastor of Christ Bible Church in Chicago. I'm Steve Hillard.

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<v S2>Glad you're with us. As today we begin a new series,

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<v S2>Winning the Lost, no matter the cost. And pastor, before

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<v S2>we talk a little bit more about specific rewards and

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<v S2>sowing and reaping, what is the reward that the sower

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<v S2>that the reaper are going to receive?

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<v S1>Uh, well, knowing that because you allow God to use

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<v S1>you as a vessel, somebody else will be in heaven.

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<v S1>I think that there's no greater reward. Only two things

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<v S1>last forever the Word of God and the souls of

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<v S1>men and women. I ask this often at our assembly.

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<v S1>I ask the question. Of course they know the answer now.

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<v S1>But the first time nobody gave the answer, I said,

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<v S1>is there anything better than going to heaven? And they

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<v S1>all said no. And of course I respond, yes. Taking

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<v S1>someone with you.

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<v S2>Yeah.

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<v S1>And so and so. Now they'll just say yes. Taking

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<v S1>someone with you. And now I respond, okay, so who's

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<v S1>going to be in heaven because God used you?

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<v S2>And that is really a convicting question for many of us.

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<v S2>I think there are so many excuses and reasons that

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<v S2>believers can give for not taking others with them, but

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<v S2>this is not an optional thing. We're commanded to do this.

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<v S1>We are commanded. Yeah, it's not like going to old

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<v S1>Country buffet where you pick and choose. No. We're commanded

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<v S1>to share the good news of Jesus Christ.

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<v S2>So for the sower, for the reaper, They get to

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<v S2>share in that reward, but that means that they actually

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<v S2>have to be doing what you're just talking about, that

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<v S2>they are sharing the good news of the gospel. For

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<v S2>the person who says, pastor, I hear what you're saying,

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<v S2>but man, I'm so scared I don't even know how

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<v S2>to go about sharing my faith.

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<v S1>Make it a part of your regular conversation. So here's

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<v S1>here's what I do. Uh, okay. You're getting ready to

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<v S1>say something to me. Say something to me.

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<v S2>All right. I'm going to tell you that I had

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<v S2>a hamburger for lunch.

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<v S1>Oh, you had a hamburger for lunch. That's good man.

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<v S1>Do you know every good and perfect gift comes from above?

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<v S1>From the father of lights, in whom is no variableness,

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<v S1>no shadow of turning. I know you don't want to

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<v S1>hear that, but I was just going to tell you

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<v S1>about my friend. My best friend.

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<v S2>Your best friend?

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<v S1>Yeah. His name is Jesus. And he's God in the

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<v S1>flesh who died, was buried and rose again the third day.

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<v S2>And so when you incorporate that into regular conversation, I'm

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<v S2>going to assume that there are occasionally some people who

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<v S2>really engage with you in that. Probably a lot of

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<v S2>pretty crazy looks.

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<v S1>Oh, man, I'll tell you. But but I try to

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<v S1>inculcate the gospel into everything that I do so that

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<v S1>it becomes just just a very real part. Somebody asked

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<v S1>me for money, or they say, I'm hungry. Can you

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<v S1>feed me? Sure. But let me tell you why I'm

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<v S1>doing this. Not because I'm such a good person. I

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<v S1>am not, but I have a good person who lives

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<v S1>in me. And they look at me and I say,

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<v S1>He's Jesus Christ, who's God in the flesh, who died

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<v S1>and rose again the third day. That's the good news.

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<v S1>So I just I just throw out the good news.

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<v S1>I look for ways to to share the good news.

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<v S2>And that's what we all are to do. And that's

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<v S2>what we're looking at in today's message. So I hope

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<v S2>you'll open your Bible and join us in Romans chapter

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<v S2>one as we begin winning the lost, no matter the cost.

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<v S2>Here is Pastor Ford.

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<v S1>Man was out fishing and he was catching all kind

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<v S1>of fish, but nobody else was catching any fish. Now

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<v S1>the game warden saw it and he said, you know,

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<v S1>something's going on here. Something's wrong. And so he decided,

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<v S1>I'm going to go out with this guy. He's got

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<v S1>to be doing something illegal to catch all these fish,

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<v S1>and nobody else is catching fish. So he said, sir,

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<v S1>I'm going out with you in your boat. So they

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<v S1>pull out in the middle of the lake and the

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<v S1>guy has a tarp. He pulls the cover off of

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<v S1>it and underneath are sticks of dynamite. The warden looks

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<v S1>and he's thinking to himself, I knew this guy was

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<v S1>doing something illegal. The guy picks up a stick of

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<v S1>dynamite lights it, throws it in the lake. Boom! The

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<v S1>fish are shocked. They come to the top. He takes

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<v S1>his net, scoops him up and puts him in the boat.

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<v S1>The game warden said, you can't do that. That's illegal.

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<v S1>I knew you were doing something illegal, I knew it.

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<v S1>You can't fish like that. God picked up a stick

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<v S1>of dynamite, lit the fuse, threw it in the warden's

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<v S1>lap and said, are you going to talk or are

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<v S1>you going to fish? Go ahead. Somebody say he fished. Yeah.

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<v S1>He fished. You see, before he wasn't doing it. And

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<v S1>so the fishermen had to give him a motivation so

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<v S1>that he would be able to do what he was doing. Yeah. Uh,

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<v S1>that's all it's about. Because the church is supposed to

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<v S1>be a lighthouse to the community. And we are those

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<v S1>who Jesus said when he told his disciples in Matthew 419,

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<v S1>anybody ever read that? He said, follow me, and I

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<v S1>will make you church attenders. Follow me, and I will

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<v S1>make you fishers of men. In other words, the reason

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<v S1>we follow Jesus is not for the Benz's and the

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<v S1>Blings and the Benjamins and all of that. We follow

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<v S1>him because he wants to make us fishers of men.

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<v S1>Now he gave them that in Capernaum. And and it's key,

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<v S1>because what were they doing when he called them? They

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<v S1>were fishing. Jesus rolls up on him and says, I

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<v S1>got something for you, baby Baba. Check this out. Here's

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<v S1>what I want you to do. I want you to

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<v S1>realize that right now you fish for live fish. Then

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<v S1>you catch them and they die. Then you have to

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<v S1>clean them. But I'm calling you to be fishers of men.

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<v S1>So you'll catch these fish and they're dead. When you

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<v S1>catch them. They're dead in their trespasses and sin. They're

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<v S1>depraved in their mind. They're darkened in their imagination. But

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<v S1>then when you catch them and you give them the

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<v S1>good news of Jesus Christ, they come alive. But you

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<v S1>don't gotta clean em. You give em to me and

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<v S1>I clean em. Now, now, now, you need to understand

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<v S1>what's going on here, because the church has gotten things backwards,

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<v S1>haven't we? Vance Havner said it this way. We have

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<v S1>become the keepers of the aquarium rather than the fishers

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<v S1>of men. Yeah. This is this is like. This is

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<v S1>like people say, pastor, when are you going to preach

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<v S1>the salvation message? And they want the stock to pawn.

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<v S1>They got the commandments backwards. Jesus didn't say, come. Jesus said, go.

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<v S1>The first two letters of the word gospel is the

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<v S1>word go. Oh, yeah. Invite him to church and I

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<v S1>hope that we'll be doing that. But here's where you

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<v S1>win the people you win the people on your job,

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<v S1>in your neighborhood, at the food store, at the health

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<v S1>food store, at the health club. You. That's where you win, people. Yes. Amen.

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<v S1>Not in church. Now I will fish if you will

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<v S1>stock the pond. Yes. Make sure I can catch something.

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<v S1>You know what that means. Just invite your unsaved loved ones.

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<v S1>And so we then are those who should be winning

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<v S1>people to Christ. And so this fisherman gave that game

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<v S1>warden a motivation. The church ought to be a maternity

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<v S1>ward where new converts and the cries of baby Christians

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<v S1>is constantly being heard. Yes, we should be winning people

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<v S1>to Jesus Christ. That sign in the nursery. Remember the

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<v S1>sign of nursery? We ought to put one in ours.

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<v S1>It says we shall not all sleep, but we shall

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<v S1>all be changed. And that's what we're looking for, a change.

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<v S1>I know what somebody's saying. I can't fish, I just

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<v S1>got saved. I don't know anybody ever. Say, don't. Don't

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<v S1>raise your hand. I can't tell anybody because I don't

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<v S1>know enough about the Bible. You don't need to know

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<v S1>anything about the Bible. Okay? Take John chapter four. The

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<v S1>woman at the well, the Samaritan woman. Remember her, remember

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<v S1>the dialogue her and Jesus had. So they had a dialogue.

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<v S1>And so Jesus trying to show her he's the Messiah,

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<v S1>but she's trying to throw the religious bag in there.

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<v S1>What what religion do you have? And and you're a Jew.

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<v S1>You have the Jews. He said, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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<v S1>it's not about religion. Where are we worship on this mountain?

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<v S1>Where do you worship? You know, you worship on Saturday,

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<v S1>worship on Sunday. Who cares what day you worship as

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<v S1>long as you got Jesus Christ as your personal Lord

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<v S1>and Savior. And so Jesus just cut to the chase,

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<v S1>because sometimes what you gotta do is you just gotta

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<v S1>cut to the chase. So she talking about we worship

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<v S1>in this mountain where you worship them. You say worship.

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<v S1>Jesus said, go get your husband. She said, I don't

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<v S1>have a husband. And Jesus said, you got that right.

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<v S1>You done had five of em. It ain't new. Yeah.

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<v S1>And you shacking right now. She said, I perceived I

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<v S1>must be a prophet. Jesus telling her business. Now what

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<v S1>does she do? Here's what she did. It says she

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<v S1>dropped her water pots. Oh, that's so powerful. You want

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<v S1>to know why? Because that means she changed her agenda.

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<v S1>Her agenda was to get some water so she can

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<v S1>exist and clean and wash herself. But she met Jesus.

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<v S1>And when you meet Jesus, it ought to change your agenda.

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<v S1>It ought to change what you got as a priority. Now,

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<v S1>she dropped that water pot. She said, I got to

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<v S1>tell somebody about Jesus. And the Bible says she ran

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<v S1>to the city, and she told all the men I met,

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<v S1>a man who told me everything I ever done. And

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<v S1>the Bible says, and all the men ran out to

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<v S1>see what she was talking about. Now, why did all

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<v S1>the men run out to see what she was talking about? Because,

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<v S1>she said, I met a man who told me every

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<v S1>thing I ever did. And some of them jokers was

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<v S1>running out to make sure Jesus wasn't telling what they

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<v S1>did with them. Now you know what I noticed about her?

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<v S1>She didn't go to Moody Bible Institute. She didn't take

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<v S1>her online evangelism course. She wasn't in your class. Were

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<v S1>you taught how to win souls for Christ? Immediately, she

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<v S1>began to tell somebody, come see a man. And you

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<v S1>know what I like about it? What's God's number for perfection?

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<v S1>She had five shacking. And the seventh man was a child.

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<v S1>That's for all you single folk. Come on now.

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<v S2>That is Pastor Ford with a message called winning the lost,

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<v S2>no matter the cost. And we're going to have to

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<v S2>pause for just a moment right here. We'll continue this

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<v S2>teaching from Romans chapter one in just a little bit.

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<v S2>the message again. Here's Pastor Ford.

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<v S1>And so no, she didn't say I can't fish. So

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<v S1>here I want to look at this passage and this

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<v S1>brief span of time I want you to see, because

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<v S1>there are six sticks of dynamite that Paul is going

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<v S1>to throw in our laps, hoping it would cause us

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<v S1>to start fishing. Yeah. Okay. Here they come. Let me

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<v S1>throw out the first one. Here it is, verse 13. Converts.

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<v S1>Notice what he says in verse 13. He says, listen,

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<v S1>the fact that there will be converts ought to motivate

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<v S1>us to witness for the Lord. Listen to what he says. Now.

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<v S1>I would not have you ignorant. Stop every time he says,

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<v S1>I would not have you ignorant. You know what that means?

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<v S1>They were ignorant. They were stuck on stupid. Paul is saying, listen,

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<v S1>you don't know this, but you ought to know this.

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<v S1>He says that ofttimes our purpose to come unto you,

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<v S1>but was let hitherto that I might have some fruit

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<v S1>among you also, even as among the Gentiles. See what

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<v S1>he's saying? He's saying listen to what he's saying. I

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<v S1>wanted to come, and I was prepared to do so,

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<v S1>but I was hindered. Now there are two ways he

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<v S1>could have been hindered. In first Thessalonians chapter two, verse 18,

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<v S1>he said, Satan hindered us, but that's not what he's

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<v S1>talking about here. He's saying I'm witnessing and seeing so

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<v S1>much fruit and so many people come to Christ in Asia.

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<v S1>I don't have time right now to leave that and

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<v S1>come to Rome, but I want to come to Rome.

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<v S1>Notice how he says it. Let me read it again.

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<v S1>Even as among other Gentiles. Why didn't he say among

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<v S1>the church? Because he says, listen, I want to go

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<v S1>after unsaved people. You know what most church growth is

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<v S1>in the US of a switching. Now, I ain't got

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<v S1>nothing wrong with it because some of y'all came from

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<v S1>other congregations. God bless you. You finally listen to God

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<v S1>Came Where you're supposed to be. Amen. And others have

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<v S1>left here. And somebody saying that to them, too. So

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<v S1>how is most church growth transfer people who become nomads?

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<v S1>You say what pastor said? No, they got mad. Off

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<v S1>they go. Yeah. That's it. They just. And they don't realize,

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<v S1>Brother Whit, that all you do is change location that

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<v S1>once you get to the other part. Now, let me

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<v S1>just say this to all our new folk who have come.

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<v S1>Let me say, you going to find some of the

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<v S1>same kind of problems in this pastor. That you had

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<v S1>with the last one. Unless there was something immoral. Alright, okay.

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<v S1>I'm sorry. Let me let me make make you know. Now, now,

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<v S1>if he was smoking dope, I don't do that. If

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<v S1>he was sleeping with the women in the church, I

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<v S1>don't do that. He's still in church with money. I

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<v S1>don't do that. If he's cussing, I don't do that much.

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<v S1>You're going to find if you ran from it over there,

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<v S1>you're going to run into it over here. Only two differences.

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<v S1>Different name, different face. Same issue, same issue, same issue.

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<v S1>But that's not what it's supposed to be. Vance Havner,

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<v S1>the late, great revivalist. He said this. It's a sad

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<v S1>fact in the church that instead of becoming fishers of men,

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<v S1>we become keepers of the aquarium. Can't get people to

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<v S1>share their faith. And he says, listen, it's because of converts.

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<v S1>I want to see some people get converted. I want

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<v S1>some fruit. He calls it fruit. Now get this, get this,

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<v S1>get this, get this, get this. Five times in the

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<v S1>New Testament, Paul calls something fruit. Let me give em

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<v S1>to you. Let me give em to you. First of all,

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<v S1>he calls character fruit. That's Galatians 522 and 23. So

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<v S1>he says, the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace,

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<v S1>long suffering. So let me ask you a question. If

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<v S1>I put water in this rag and I squeeze it,

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<v S1>what will come out? If I put orange juice in

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<v S1>this rag and squeeze it, what will come out? If

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<v S1>I put grape juice in this rag and squeeze it,

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<v S1>what will come out? Question. Why is there so much

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<v S1>hail coming out of so many people who say they

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<v S1>know Jesus? Answer because that's what's in them. Because when

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<v S1>you're squeezed, whatever's in you, it's going to come out.

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<v S1>If you're filled with the spirit, love, joy, peace, meekness,

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<v S1>that's what's going to come out. But if if hell

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<v S1>is in you, hell going to come out of you.

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<v S1>And that's why they look all holy, they can pray

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<v S1>the roof off the place and all that, know Scripture

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<v S1>and all that. But every time something happened that, that,

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<v S1>that they don't agree with, they got this attitude. That's

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<v S1>because that's what's in them. And that's why God got

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<v S1>you squeezed. Because he got to squeeze that out of you,

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<v S1>because the Holy Spirit can't occupy the same place with

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<v S1>all that garbage we got up in us. Character is

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<v S1>called fruit, but then conduct is called fruit. Romans 623.

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<v S1>He calls it the fruits of holiness. You know what

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<v S1>that means? Living right? Only two things wrong with the church.

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<v S1>Tight giving and loose living. Alright. Preach, man. And so what?

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<v S1>What's he saying? He's saying your life is fruit and

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<v S1>the problem is much of us when it comes to

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<v S1>living the way we should, are rotten fruit. Mm. But

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<v S1>then Hebrews 1315. Communication he calls fruit. He says that

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<v S1>we ought to worship God with the fruit of our lips.

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<v S1>Hosea calls it a calf. You tie them both together.

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<v S1>What did the calf do in the Old Testament? Hosea

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<v S1>46A calf, he says, he says, worship the Lord with

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<v S1>the calf of your lips. In other words, the calf

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<v S1>was what you offered as a sacrifice. You tie that

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<v S1>with Hebrews 1315. He's saying we need to give God

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<v S1>praise with our lips. We need to open our mouths

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<v S1>and say, Hallelujah! Thank you Jesus. We praise your name.

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<v S1>We bless you, Lord. I mean, you get excited about scandal.

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<v S1>Be talking about that, you talking about power, talking about that.

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<v S1>You be talking about the Empire talking about that. And

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<v S1>Empire ain't never done nothing for you in power. Ain't

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<v S1>never give you no money. But Jesus provides all your

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<v S1>needs according to his riches in glory. How come you

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<v S1>can't shout about that? And Jesus wrote your name in

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<v S1>the Lamb's Book of life, gave you salvation. Cover you

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<v S1>in his blood. How come you can't shout about that?

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<v S1>I came in today. I ain't been in here in

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<v S1>three weeks. I walked in, I said, thank you, God

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<v S1>that I'm walking in the church, not being wheeled in

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<v S1>the church. Help me! Somebody! Come on, help me! That's right.

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<v S1>I said, God, I thank you. I'm on top of

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<v S1>the ground, and the ground ain't on top of me.

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<v S1>Thank you. I thank you, God. I'm in my right mind.

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<v S1>I know everybody think I'm crazy, but I'm in my

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<v S1>right mind I fed myself this morning, I clothed myself.

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<v S1>Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, yeah I'm grateful man.

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<v S1>But then he uses fruit. Oh, y'all going to get

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<v S1>quiet on this one? Romans 1528 compassionate giving to saints

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<v S1>who are hurting. Yeah. He says, I'm bringing this fruit

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<v S1>to the poor. Church of the collection that I got

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<v S1>from the other saints. It's fruit. Wow. And then here's

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<v S1>the fifth one. Converts. He says, I want to have

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<v S1>some fruit among you. Now, let me get this straight.

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<v S1>Here's here's here's the misnomer. Success in witnessing is not

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<v S1>leading a person to Christ. Success in witnessing is witnessing

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<v S1>about Christ. Here's what he said. One plants, one waters.

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<v S1>God gives the increase. Here's what he said. Jesus himself said,

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<v S1>the sower and the reaper get the same reward. Who's

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<v S1>the sower? The one that planted the seed. The one

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<v S1>that put the seed in the heart soil. Who's the reaper?

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<v S1>The one that prayed with him. The one that actually

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<v S1>was there when they actually came to Christ? You mean

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<v S1>both of them? Yes. because you can't have one without another.

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<v S1>You can't have a reaper if you ain't had a sower. Yeah,

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<v S1>and you can't have a sower without a reaper, because

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<v S1>then everything's going to go rotten. And so he says,

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<v S1>because of converts. Now, I want you to notice something

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<v S1>here because what are we trying to do? We're trying

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<v S1>to let people know about our God who can do

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<v S1>what our God can do. He said, what are you

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<v S1>talking about? Let me show you something. Let me show

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<v S1>you something. I just shared this with the Wednesday crowd.

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<v S1>Here's what Paul says I was hindered. Uh, now, what

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<v S1>hindered him? The work of God hindered him. Now, now,

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<v S1>here's what we got to realize. This. This thing is

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<v S1>powerful to me. I said, first Thessalonians 218 is is

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<v S1>is demonic delay. But acts 16 six through eight is

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<v S1>divine delay. God stopped him from going. Question why? Since

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<v S1>he wants to go there and witness. Are you having him? Wait?

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<v S1>My might I postulate a possibility? Ability, say postulate. I

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<v S1>remember when I got converted. Some things changed right away.

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<v S1>Some things didn't change, right? Some things changed. The first

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<v S1>thing I did, anybody remember. Flushed my drugs down the toilet?

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<v S1>I used to Pepsi-Cola pusher, you know. Remember when Pepsi-Cola bottles,

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<v S1>you get two cent for them? I was a two

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<v S1>cent nickel and dime pusher, and the first thing I

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<v S1>did was flush all my drugs down the toilet. That

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<v S1>word got around, man. Ford done lost his mind. He

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<v S1>ain't got religion and he ain't flushed down the toilet.

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<v S1>And then the other thing I was doing, I was

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<v S1>gaming on welfare. Now, let me tell you what that means.

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<v S1>That means I had a job, a good job, but

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<v S1>I had my wife go to welfare office and say

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<v S1>that I had left her and the children, so we

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<v S1>was able to get food stamps this way before Lincoln

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<v S1>was able to get food stamps and she got a

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<v S1>medical card. So here I was. I had a good job.

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<v S1>I was working in a factory making top money, and

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<v S1>then she was getting welfare and food stamps and I

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<v S1>was selling drugs. Big bank, big bank, big bank. But

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<v S1>then it backfired because when I got saved, the first

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<v S1>thing I did was I went to the welfare office

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<v S1>because the guilt was on me. And I said, for

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<v S1>two and a half, almost three years, we've been cheating you.

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<v S1>I know I could go to jail, but my guy

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<v S1>who led me to Christ said, one of the first

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<v S1>thing I must do is make restitution.

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<v S2>That is Pastor James Ford Jr. A message he calls

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<v S2>winning the lost no matter the cost. And we're not

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<v S2>finished with this teaching. There is some more biblical encouragement

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<v S2>still to come next time, but you can request a

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