WEBVTT - Hour 2: Answering Bible Questions 0:00:08.300 --> 0:00:11.600 Hello friends. It's time for the second hour of Open 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:16.820 Line with Doctor Michael Dolnick Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America. 0:00:16.820 --> 0:00:20.960 We're talking about your questions about the Bible, God and 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.950 the spiritual life. I'm Michael Ray Dolnick. I'm the academic 0:00:24.950 --> 0:00:27.590 dean and professor of Jewish studies and Bible at Moody 0:00:27.620 --> 0:00:32.120 Bible Institute. We're live today right here, right around the 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.330 radio kitchen table taking your questions. So give me a call. 0:00:35.330 --> 0:00:46.550 The number is (877) 548-3675. Again (877) 548-3675. If you can't call 0:00:46.550 --> 0:00:51.260 just go to our website Openline radio.org. And there's a 0:00:51.260 --> 0:00:54.800 link there that says Ask Michael a question. 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Doctor Mark Jobe, 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.400 who is the president of Moody Bible Institute and you 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.130 know him on radio from Bold Steps, we're going to 0:01:35.130 --> 0:01:38.850 have doctor Don Sweeting, who is the chancellor, former president, 0:01:38.850 --> 0:01:41.880 but now the chancellor of Colorado Christian. He is the 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:46.199 son of our former president, Doctor George Sweeting, who's gone 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.290 on to be with the Lord. Uh, also, we'll have 0:01:49.290 --> 0:01:52.860 Doctor Mitch Glazer, who's the president of Chosen People Ministries, 0:01:53.070 --> 0:01:56.910 Chicago area listeners, Carl from Carl and crew. Carl Clawson 0:01:56.910 --> 0:02:02.470 will be speaking. Uh, very, very excited about this, uh, 0:02:02.980 --> 0:02:05.920 this event. I'll be speaking as well. Eve is going 0:02:05.950 --> 0:02:07.690 to lead a workshop. It's going to be a really 0:02:07.690 --> 0:02:11.320 great time to learn about this current problem and see 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.070 what we can do as followers of Jesus, to oppose 0:02:15.070 --> 0:02:19.270 this hatred of the people whom God loves. And so 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.360 don't miss out November 9th. It's a it's a very 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.480 important day. Uh, join us for the summit. And I 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.460 did want to let you know there's a there's a 0:02:27.460 --> 0:02:31.899 small registration fee, but when you register, if you put 0:02:31.900 --> 0:02:36.430 the words in Caps summit and then no space 20, uh, 0:02:36.430 --> 0:02:41.560 summit 20, uh, you will get a 20% discount for registration. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.470 So that would be a now is the time to 0:02:44.500 --> 0:02:47.050 go grab that registration, take care of it. If you 0:02:47.050 --> 0:02:49.090 want to get a link to the registration, just go 0:02:49.090 --> 0:02:54.010 to Open Line radio.org. There's a banner that says, uh, 0:02:54.250 --> 0:02:58.270 summit opposing anti-Semitism. Semitism. Okay, so that's how you can 0:02:58.270 --> 0:02:59.650 go to it. We're going to go right back to 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:04.389 the phones now and talk with Pam in Cincinnati, Ohio 0:03:04.419 --> 0:03:08.500 listening on Wfxg. Welcome to Open Line. Pam, how can 0:03:08.500 --> 0:03:09.370 I help you? 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.270 Good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I have 0:03:13.270 --> 0:03:19.810 a question. I've been trying to figure out the best study, um, 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:24.880 for to connect the Old Testament with the New Testament. Mhm. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:30.700 And I've been, um, reading a recent, um, book from 0:03:30.700 --> 0:03:34.540 Rabbi Sobel, and I enjoyed his. But I gave it 0:03:34.540 --> 0:03:38.530 away before I was done. And I do have, um, 0:03:38.530 --> 0:03:43.600 Nehama Leibowitz studies the Pentateuch. And I wondered if that 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:48.010 was a good set of books to have. 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.710 Well, that's not going to be a book that connects 0:03:50.710 --> 0:03:52.990 you to the New Testament at all. So. 0:03:53.020 --> 0:03:54.790 And I found that out. Yeah. 0:03:54.860 --> 0:03:59.360 So, uh, you know, there are a number of books 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:04.880 that will help you. Uh, for example, uh, some of 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.970 them are a little more challenging than, than others, but 0:04:07.970 --> 0:04:11.600 they're still helpful. I would, first of all, recommend The 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.650 Moody Handbook on Messianic Prophecy, because what that does is 0:04:15.650 --> 0:04:18.920 it goes through virtually everything in the Old Testament that 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:23.510 points to Jesus and, and really helps you see how 0:04:23.510 --> 0:04:28.040 the Old Testament is foretelling the new. And that's a 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:32.630 very good book, The Moody Handbook of Messianic Prophecy. Uh, 0:04:32.630 --> 0:04:36.320 then there's another book that I wrote called The Messianic Hope. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:40.280 Is the Hebrew Bible really messianic? Uh, again, that's an 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:44.390 academic academic book, but it's, uh, it's a, I think 0:04:44.390 --> 0:04:46.760 a helpful book. If you read slowly and write down 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.010 your questions and call me back with them, and I'm 0:04:49.010 --> 0:04:51.560 happy to talk, you talk it through with you. Uh, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:57.270 then there's a book by Walt Kaiser. Doctor Kaiser contributed 0:04:57.270 --> 0:04:59.220 to The Moody Handbook, but he wrote a book called 0:04:59.220 --> 0:05:02.820 The Messiah in the Old Testament. That's a great book. Again, 0:05:02.850 --> 0:05:08.700 it connects to Jesus in the new. Very helpful book. Uh, and, uh, 0:05:08.730 --> 0:05:12.810 I think the, the there there's a lot of ways 0:05:12.810 --> 0:05:16.200 that we can connect the old with the new, uh, 0:05:16.290 --> 0:05:23.730 but that that's sort of the some good starters for you. Uh, they, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:28.650 you know, sometimes when you get books that are more popular, 0:05:28.650 --> 0:05:32.400 they have kind of a superficial connection. And so that's 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.290 why I recommend these books that have a little bit 0:05:34.290 --> 0:05:38.430 more substance to get you connected to the new. Okay. 0:05:39.150 --> 0:05:40.590 Thank you. That's what I want. 0:05:40.620 --> 0:05:43.349 Thank you. Great. So glad you called, Pam. Thank you 0:05:43.350 --> 0:05:43.859 so much. 0:05:44.070 --> 0:05:44.550 Have a blessed. 0:05:44.550 --> 0:05:48.330 Day. You too. Okay. Bye bye. Uh, okay. We're going 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:52.680 to talk with Kent in Urbana, Illinois. Listening to on WGN. 0:05:52.690 --> 0:05:55.720 Welcome to Open Line, Kent. How can I help you today? 0:05:56.830 --> 0:06:03.430 Hi, doctor. Mike. Um, in Jeremiah, he talks about the 0:06:03.430 --> 0:06:08.320 destruction of Babylon, and it will never be rebuilt again. 0:06:08.830 --> 0:06:12.400 Then what? Babylon is being talked about by the Apostle 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.650 John in Revelation 18. 0:06:14.890 --> 0:06:20.170 Well, I think in revelation 17 and 18, uh, what 0:06:20.170 --> 0:06:22.570 we have, there's two views. There's some people who think 0:06:22.570 --> 0:06:27.729 it's sort of a Babylon is used symbolically of Rome. Uh, 0:06:27.730 --> 0:06:32.529 and that could very well be sort of a rebuilt Rome, 0:06:32.529 --> 0:06:39.280 Roman religion, Roman state. And the and some people think that, uh, uh, 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.710 I'm a little skeptical. You know, I have this. If 0:06:41.710 --> 0:06:44.740 the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense, lest 0:06:44.770 --> 0:06:50.830 it result in nonsense. I don't believe that the the revelation. 0:06:50.930 --> 0:06:54.109 I don't believe that Jeremiah 50 and 51 has been 0:06:54.110 --> 0:06:58.700 fulfilled in its complete way. That's described there. I agree 0:06:58.700 --> 0:07:01.250 with Doctor Charlie Dyer from the host of The Land 0:07:01.250 --> 0:07:04.640 of the book, who's written quite extensively about Babylon, that 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:09.770 it will be rebuilt, and that revelation 17 and 18 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:14.180 aligns with Jeremiah 50 and 51, and foretells the actual 0:07:14.180 --> 0:07:19.010 destruction at the end of days, destruction of Babylon. So 0:07:19.010 --> 0:07:22.910 that's what I think it is. Uh, maybe a book 0:07:22.910 --> 0:07:25.130 that you would find helpful is a moody publishers book 0:07:25.130 --> 0:07:28.640 called The Rise of Babylon by Charlie Dyer. So that 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.610 might be helpful to you. Uh, we're going to. Thanks 0:07:31.610 --> 0:07:33.620 for your call, Kent. Hope that helps. We're going to 0:07:33.620 --> 0:07:39.380 talk to Louise in Chicago, listening online. Welcome to Open Line, Louise. 0:07:39.410 --> 0:07:40.700 How can I help you today? 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.640 Thank you. It's Larissa, actually. 0:07:43.670 --> 0:07:44.900 Oh, Larissa. Larissa. 0:07:44.930 --> 0:07:51.750 Sorry. That's okay. Um, my question is, Second Corinthians. In 0:07:51.750 --> 0:07:55.140 the King James Version of the Bible. We are confident, 0:07:55.140 --> 0:07:59.190 I say, and willing rather to be absent from the 0:07:59.190 --> 0:08:03.300 body is to be present with the Lord. And so I, 0:08:03.330 --> 0:08:08.430 I've always I'm a little confused because I hear people say, 0:08:08.430 --> 0:08:11.850 when someone dies, oh, they're with the Lord, they're in heaven. 0:08:11.850 --> 0:08:16.080 But then I've also heard, um, I've read in like 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:20.520 revelations that when, when we die, we're, we're we're actually 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.910 sleeping in our graves, waiting on the Lord to come back. 0:08:24.270 --> 0:08:28.080 So that's just always been. I'm a little confused about it. 0:08:28.110 --> 0:08:31.020 Okay. Well, I think you got second Corinthians five nine, right? 0:08:31.020 --> 0:08:34.380 Therefore we are at home or away. We make it 0:08:34.380 --> 0:08:39.780 our aim. Uh. I'm sorry. Second Corinthians five eight. Uh, 0:08:40.260 --> 0:08:42.569 while we're at home, this is I'm going to begin 0:08:42.570 --> 0:08:45.420 with verse six. Uh, we are always confident and know 0:08:45.420 --> 0:08:47.040 that while we are at home in the body, we 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.230 are away from the Lord. Verse seven. For we walk 0:08:49.230 --> 0:08:52.350 by faith, not by sight, and we are confident and 0:08:52.350 --> 0:08:55.020 satisfied to be out of the body when we're out 0:08:55.020 --> 0:08:58.199 of our body. We're home with the Lord when we die. Therefore, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.240 whether we're at home or away, we make it our 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.530 aim to be pleasing to him. Okay, so, uh, clearly. 0:09:04.530 --> 0:09:09.059 And then in Philippians one, it's Paul talks about the 0:09:09.059 --> 0:09:15.329 potential for dying and what what he says is that 0:09:15.330 --> 0:09:19.350 he would rather be, uh, away from them and with 0:09:19.350 --> 0:09:23.250 the Lord. So when he dies, he anticipates going to 0:09:23.250 --> 0:09:27.900 be with the Lord. And, uh, and so this is 0:09:27.900 --> 0:09:33.570 what what he says, uh, uh, for me, living is 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:38.100 this verse 21, Philippians one. For me, living is Christ, 0:09:38.100 --> 0:09:42.120 or living is Messiah, and dying is gain. If I 0:09:42.150 --> 0:09:44.790 live on in the flesh, this means fruitful work for me, 0:09:44.790 --> 0:09:46.620 and I don't know which one I should choose. I 0:09:46.650 --> 0:09:50.079 am pressured by both. I have the desire to depart 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.199 and be with the Messiah, which is far better, but 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.569 to remain in the flesh is more necessary for you. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.580 Sounds like Paul thinks that when he dies, he goes 0:09:57.580 --> 0:10:00.489 right to be with the Lord. The issue comes up 0:10:00.490 --> 0:10:04.570 in a passage like First Thessalonians chapter four, where it 0:10:04.570 --> 0:10:08.589 talks about the rapture and it talks about people, uh, 0:10:08.590 --> 0:10:10.900 in the church who have died. That's what they were 0:10:10.900 --> 0:10:17.350 concerned that they were going to somehow miss, uh, being, 0:10:17.380 --> 0:10:20.920 you know, missed the return of the Lord because they're sleeping. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:25.840 And so. Right. Uh, it says concerning those who are 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:30.520 asleep and he's using the word asleep repeatedly. Uh, yes. 0:10:30.550 --> 0:10:35.860 For being dead. And the reason it's a euphemism when 0:10:35.860 --> 0:10:38.860 you look at a dead body, uh, if they're at peace, 0:10:38.860 --> 0:10:41.920 they look like they are merely asleep. And so he 0:10:41.950 --> 0:10:46.610 is using the euphemism for dead. Okay, So concerning those 0:10:46.610 --> 0:10:50.209 who are dead. Uh, and then he says those who 0:10:50.210 --> 0:10:55.640 have died through Jesus. Uh, and he says we have 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:59.120 no advantage over those who are take away the euphemism 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.360 instead of falling asleep. We have no advantage over those 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.050 who are dead. That's what it means. Uh, okay. So. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:07.910 And and that's the reason I know that is he 0:11:07.910 --> 0:11:11.180 calls them the dead in Christ. So we know that's 0:11:11.179 --> 0:11:13.670 what it's talking about. So what what I think is 0:11:13.670 --> 0:11:15.860 happening here, and I think there's a little hint in 0:11:15.860 --> 0:11:18.290 the text and I'll show it to you. Is that 0:11:18.290 --> 0:11:24.080 when we die, our, uh, immaterial part, the soul or spirit, 0:11:24.110 --> 0:11:27.439 goes to be with the Lord. Our bodies are asleep, 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:33.710 so to speak, physically as they decay in the grave. Right. Mhm. Mhm. Uh, decompose. 0:11:33.710 --> 0:11:39.439 And then, uh, when the resurrection happens we will, the 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.870 people who have died in the Lord will return there. 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.780 Their spirits will return with him and their bodies will 0:11:45.780 --> 0:11:50.910 be resurrected and resurrected and reconstructed. And and then they 0:11:50.910 --> 0:11:54.210 will become one with their new immortal body. Here's why 0:11:54.210 --> 0:11:58.559 I say that. Uh, if you look at, uh, it 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.260 says concerning those who are asleep, those who have died 0:12:01.260 --> 0:12:03.750 don't grieve as the rest, who have no hope. Now 0:12:03.750 --> 0:12:08.070 look at verse 14, first Thessalonians four, verse 14. Since 0:12:08.070 --> 0:12:11.939 we believe that Jesus died and rose again in the 0:12:11.970 --> 0:12:17.010 same way, God will bring with him those who have 0:12:17.010 --> 0:12:21.030 fallen asleep through Jesus. So when the Lord Jesus is descending, 0:12:21.030 --> 0:12:25.079 who's coming back with him? Those who have fallen asleep, 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.840 their immaterial part that has gone to be with the 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:33.060 Lord all these years will descend with him, and then 0:12:33.059 --> 0:12:35.850 the dead in Christ will rise. And so those who 0:12:35.850 --> 0:12:39.270 have died, they're returning with the Lord. Their immaterial part 0:12:39.300 --> 0:12:42.780 is returning at the rapture. Their physical body is resurrected, 0:12:42.780 --> 0:12:46.000 and they're reunited as one. That's what it. That's what 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:46.959 it's referring to. 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:51.070 Oh. Oh thank you. That was, that was a great 0:12:51.100 --> 0:12:52.450 that that helps me. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.030 Great, great. I'm so glad. No soul sleep. We go 0:12:55.030 --> 0:12:57.700 to be with the Lord when we die. And then 0:12:57.730 --> 0:13:02.050 we will be resurrected physically to an immortal, glorious body 0:13:02.140 --> 0:13:05.500 that the Lord has made way for us. First Corinthians 0:13:05.500 --> 0:13:09.280 15 he's he's the first fruits, but we get to 0:13:09.309 --> 0:13:12.010 experience it when we're resurrected, so. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.640 Oh my. Okay, well that is a blessing and we 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.640 look forward to that. Amen. Thank you so much. I 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:19.540 really appreciate it. 0:13:19.570 --> 0:13:24.760 Yeah. Great. Well thank you. Uh, Larissa, thanks for your call. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.880 Really appreciate it. And, uh, when we come back, we're 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:33.189 going to take more of your questions. Uh, this is 0:13:33.190 --> 0:13:39.160 open line with Michael Ray Dolnick. The number (877) 548-3675. Stay 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.290 with us. 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Uh, 0:15:51.870 --> 0:15:57.120 14 Fresh Ways to Read the Bible to Enjoy the Bible. Okay, 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.430 we're going to go back to the phones now. Tracy 0:15:59.430 --> 0:16:02.520 in Chicago listening on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line, Tracy. 0:16:02.550 --> 0:16:07.710 How can I help you today? Hey, Tracy, I can't 0:16:07.710 --> 0:16:08.370 hear you. 0:16:10.170 --> 0:16:11.490 Oh, hello. Can you hear me now? 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.530 Now I can. Yep. Thank you. Okay. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.960 Sorry about that. Yes. Thank you for taking my call. 0:16:15.990 --> 0:16:18.900 And thank you for what you do. Um, my call 0:16:18.900 --> 0:16:22.620 is in relation to the last caller's, like, um, regarding 0:16:22.620 --> 0:16:25.110 people being absent from the body and being present with 0:16:25.110 --> 0:16:29.340 the Lord. Um, and the resurrection of those that are 0:16:29.340 --> 0:16:32.280 asleep in Christ. I want to know, how does that 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:40.150 connect to Hebrews? Uh 927. Bit confused by that because 0:16:40.180 --> 0:16:43.270 it says it's appointed unto man every one to die once. 0:16:43.300 --> 0:16:47.170 What does that mean exactly? Is that a physical death 0:16:47.170 --> 0:16:50.680 in the body? Um. Or can that be a spiritual, 0:16:50.860 --> 0:16:52.090 natural death? 0:16:52.180 --> 0:16:58.150 Uh, it's talking about the context is, uh, the Messiah's death. 0:16:58.150 --> 0:17:01.930 So it's talking about physical death, and it says, okay, 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.229 verse 27, just as it is appointed for people to 0:17:05.260 --> 0:17:09.280 die once, and after this, the next step before God 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.280 is there will be a judgment. So also the Messiah 0:17:12.310 --> 0:17:15.340 having been offered once that's referring to his death to 0:17:15.369 --> 0:17:18.610 bear the sins of many will appear a second time, 0:17:18.609 --> 0:17:21.250 but not to bear sin, but to bring salvation. So 0:17:21.250 --> 0:17:25.209 it's saying is, uh, that Jesus isn't going to die again. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.659 That's the real point he's making. But he's saying, just 0:17:28.660 --> 0:17:32.590 as people die once it's appointed for man to die once, 0:17:32.590 --> 0:17:35.889 and then they stand before God, there's the judgment in 0:17:35.890 --> 0:17:38.209 the same way that people just die once. The Lord Jesus, 0:17:38.210 --> 0:17:40.700 when he appears again, when he returns, he's not going 0:17:40.730 --> 0:17:44.119 to die the second time, okay? He's going to appear 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:48.109 as judge. And now the one thing is that people 0:17:48.109 --> 0:17:51.290 often say, well, if the Bible says people, all people 0:17:51.290 --> 0:17:55.970 die once. Uh, what about Enoch? He walked with God 0:17:55.970 --> 0:17:59.840 and he was no more. And what about Elijah, who 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:05.240 apparently was translated, wait. What about everyone that's alive at 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.090 the rapture will be translated instantly. 0:18:08.090 --> 0:18:09.980 So that was my question. 0:18:10.430 --> 0:18:15.440 Uh, so what you have here in verse 27 is 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:20.990 a general rule for life. It is true that we're 0:18:20.990 --> 0:18:23.179 all going to die. I always say that, you know, 0:18:23.210 --> 0:18:25.070 one of the things that's hard for us to accept 0:18:25.070 --> 0:18:28.129 that when we're in denial that we're going to die 0:18:28.130 --> 0:18:31.400 one day, everyone's going to die. I hope to be raptured, 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:35.580 but everyone's going to die if we're not raptured. That's 0:18:35.580 --> 0:18:39.870 a general rule of life. It doesn't mean there aren't exceptions. 0:18:39.869 --> 0:18:45.030 It doesn't mean Enoch and Elijah didn't die. I mean, uh, 0:18:45.030 --> 0:18:48.600 had to die. No, they didn't die. They were translated 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.600 in the same way. The church alive at the return 0:18:51.630 --> 0:18:55.169 of Jesus at the rapture will be translated into his presence. 0:18:55.170 --> 0:18:59.340 Those are the exceptions. But what's the general rule? Uh, 0:18:59.340 --> 0:19:04.740 generally speaking, Tracy, I'm going to die. You're going to die. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:09.570 Everyone's going to die. Unless now we get raptured. So. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.119 And I long for the rapture. I want it to 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.790 be in my lifetime. But, you know, we have to 0:19:14.790 --> 0:19:16.830 be ready to die. Every one of us needs to 0:19:16.830 --> 0:19:20.370 be ready to die. And the best way to be 0:19:20.369 --> 0:19:24.330 ready to die is to believe in Jesus today and 0:19:24.330 --> 0:19:28.260 live your life for him. Uh, today, the we have 0:19:28.260 --> 0:19:30.480 to believe if we're going to spend eternity with him 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.270 so we're ready to die. We have to believe that, 0:19:33.300 --> 0:19:35.780 you we all do things wrong, but Jesus died for 0:19:35.780 --> 0:19:38.629 those wrong things. He took the punishment we deserve. He 0:19:38.630 --> 0:19:41.720 was raised again, proving that he can take the punishment 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:45.830 that he is God. And now he's going to come back. 0:19:45.830 --> 0:19:47.420 But what we have to believe is that he took 0:19:47.420 --> 0:19:49.460 the punishment for our sin by his death and was 0:19:49.460 --> 0:19:52.550 raised again. We just have to trust that. That that's 0:19:52.550 --> 0:19:58.490 sufficient to establish a forever forgiven relationship with God. Okay, Tracy. 0:19:58.490 --> 0:20:01.970 So I believe you know that. But if you're listening 0:20:01.970 --> 0:20:05.720 and you're wondering, I'm not ready to die. Ha! The 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.050 first step is not to go and get your, uh, 0:20:10.100 --> 0:20:12.889 a grave set up and buy your coffin. And that's 0:20:12.890 --> 0:20:14.570 a great thing to do if you want to do that. 0:20:14.570 --> 0:20:17.419 But that's not getting ready to die. Being ready to 0:20:17.450 --> 0:20:20.689 die starts when we put our trust in Jesus. Then 0:20:20.690 --> 0:20:23.120 we never have to fear. We can go right into 0:20:23.150 --> 0:20:25.250 his presence. And I'll tell you what there's this great 0:20:25.250 --> 0:20:29.420 benefit is he gets he comes into our lives. We 0:20:29.450 --> 0:20:33.280 he transforms our lives today. So as long as we live, 0:20:33.310 --> 0:20:35.950 it's whether we live or die. We're living for him. 0:20:35.950 --> 0:20:39.550 And it's a glorious life. Okay, Tracy. 0:20:41.020 --> 0:20:44.710 Okay. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. I'm still just 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.369 slightly confused, though, with the rapture portion. What are you 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:52.300 confused about? No one. Well, it seems as though if 0:20:52.300 --> 0:20:54.730 everyone dies, then who's going to be raptured? 0:20:54.790 --> 0:20:59.440 No, no, everyone is going to die. Except. Well, that's 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.260 a general rule that all people die. That's all I'm saying. 0:21:02.260 --> 0:21:05.590 It's a general rule. All people die. Sooner or later, 0:21:05.619 --> 0:21:10.090 we're all going to die. However, if we are alive 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.640 at that time when the rapture happens and we're followers 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.730 of Jesus will be translated, it will be an exception 0:21:15.730 --> 0:21:18.010 to the rule. That's all I'm saying. 0:21:18.670 --> 0:21:19.689 Mhm. Okay. 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.320 Okay, good. Okay. Thank you so much. Sure. Thanks for 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:28.150 your call. Uh, we're going to speak with Mike in Russellville, Arkansas, 0:21:28.180 --> 0:21:31.200 listed on Moody Radio. Welcome to Open Line. Mike. How 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:32.400 can I help you today? 0:21:33.390 --> 0:21:36.179 Uh, good morning, doctor. Thank you so much for taking 0:21:36.180 --> 0:21:39.030 my call. Sure. Uh, actually, I'm listening to you on 0:21:39.030 --> 0:21:42.600 the app. Okay, great. Have a station close. But, uh, 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:49.440 my question comes with regards to Isaiah 37 four. Uh, 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:52.800 and then also in verse 20, it's the use of 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:57.959 the word uh, your God and in our God. And 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:02.310 in verse four there, uh, Hezekiah has sent Eliakim and 0:22:02.310 --> 0:22:06.060 Shebna and the elders to Isaiah. And he says, it 0:22:06.060 --> 0:22:08.280 may be that the Lord your God will hear the 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.600 words of the Rebekah. And then in verse 20, this 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.030 is where Isaiah is praying. Wait a second. 0:22:15.540 --> 0:22:18.240 The and will rebuke him for the words that the 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:22.169 Lord your God has heard, right? Yes, yes. 0:22:22.410 --> 0:22:25.440 And I'm just curious, because it's also I've seen that 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:30.209 in Nehemiah, uh, chapter eight, verses Versus nine and it 0:22:30.210 --> 0:22:33.780 uses your God. And then in verse ten it says hours. 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.330 So I'm just curious as to why they would not 0:22:36.330 --> 0:22:41.640 use our all the time as a vote, you know, 0:22:41.670 --> 0:22:42.990 in that in those. 0:22:43.170 --> 0:22:43.890 Well. 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:44.610 Instances. 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:48.960 Uh, do you have, uh, is the Lord Jesus your Messiah? 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:50.880 Absolutely. 0:22:51.300 --> 0:22:55.230 He's mine too. Yes. But I might say to you, 0:22:55.260 --> 0:22:59.520 your God, when I talk with you. I've listened to 0:22:59.550 --> 0:23:01.050 a lot of preachers. I always want to tell them 0:23:01.050 --> 0:23:03.060 use the first person. But a lot of preachers say 0:23:03.060 --> 0:23:09.000 your faith, your your decision, your walk. You're this your God. Uh, 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.090 they're just talking to people because he is indeed the 0:23:12.090 --> 0:23:15.629 God of Israel. So when Hezekiah talks to Israel, to Judah, 0:23:15.660 --> 0:23:20.400 he he says, your God. However, he recognizes that he's 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.550 part of Israel. And then in verse 20, he talks 0:23:23.550 --> 0:23:27.090 about our God because he's one of them. That's all. 0:23:27.090 --> 0:23:29.709 It's it's recognizing the same thing. And I might do 0:23:29.710 --> 0:23:34.000 the same thing talking with you about your Messiah. Make 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:38.200 Jesus your Messiah. He's our Messiah. You know, it's the 0:23:38.230 --> 0:23:41.800 it's the same deal. Don't read more into that than 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.859 it ought to be read. He's talking to them, and 0:23:44.859 --> 0:23:48.850 then he includes himself with them. That's the same thing 0:23:48.850 --> 0:23:53.679 that that I do when I talk with people as well. Okay. Right. Okay. 0:23:53.710 --> 0:23:56.410 Very good, I appreciate it. Great. Thanks for your call, Mike. 0:23:56.410 --> 0:24:00.790 Really appreciate it. Uh, have a blessed day. Okay. Jonathan 0:24:00.790 --> 0:24:04.000 in Cleveland, listening on Wkjf. Welcome to Open Line. Go 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:05.980 ahead with your question. We're up against the break, so 0:24:05.980 --> 0:24:07.330 just ask your question. 0:24:09.190 --> 0:24:11.800 Yes. Good morning. Um, I'm a new Christian, and I'm 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:15.760 not sure. Do I have to be baptized to participate 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:16.510 in communion? 0:24:16.540 --> 0:24:18.160 How long have you been a Christian? 0:24:19.300 --> 0:24:21.159 Uh, maybe five months. 0:24:21.190 --> 0:24:25.419 Five months? Uh, well, I think it's time for you 0:24:25.420 --> 0:24:29.970 to be baptized. Yes. What do you think? 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:32.879 I for sure. Um. 0:24:32.940 --> 0:24:36.120 That's the. That's the real question. The real question is, 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.419 why aren't you baptized yet? That's the real question. 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.800 The church that I go to, um, has set up 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.790 every like 90 days or so, and I accepted Christ 0:24:47.790 --> 0:24:50.369 in between those times. And I'm not sure why they 0:24:50.369 --> 0:24:51.150 haven't had that. 0:24:51.270 --> 0:24:53.010 Okay, well, you talk to your pastor and say it's 0:24:53.010 --> 0:24:55.409 time for time for me to be baptized. Let me 0:24:55.410 --> 0:24:57.900 know about that. And then the other thing is, do 0:24:57.900 --> 0:24:59.640 they have a rule that you have to be baptized 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:00.870 to take the Lord's Supper? 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:03.780 Yes, I believe the congregation does. 0:25:03.810 --> 0:25:06.450 Well, I, I, I think it's within their right to 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.780 establish a rule like that. That's totally fine. You know, 0:25:09.810 --> 0:25:11.820 when I was a pastor, I didn't have that a rule. 0:25:11.850 --> 0:25:16.350 As a rule, uh, in my church, my congregation, what 0:25:16.350 --> 0:25:20.460 I believed was the best thing to do was, uh, 0:25:20.460 --> 0:25:23.580 if you were a follower of Jesus to participate in 0:25:23.580 --> 0:25:28.350 the Lord's table, that was what was acceptable. However, I 0:25:28.350 --> 0:25:32.460 really do believe different congregations can have different rules about that. Jonathan. 0:25:32.490 --> 0:25:35.669 And if your congregation has that rule, just respect it 0:25:35.670 --> 0:25:39.389 and then talk to your pastor about getting baptized. Okay. 0:25:40.830 --> 0:25:43.080 I hope that's okay. We're going to come back with 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.899 the mailbag in just a moment. This is Michael Ray Dolnick. 0:25:45.930 --> 0:25:49.350 You're listening to Open Line. Uh, and we'll be back 0:25:49.350 --> 0:26:07.020 with more of your questions, so don't go away. Welcome 0:26:07.020 --> 0:26:10.230 back to Open Line. I'm Michael Ray Dolnick. I'm so 0:26:10.230 --> 0:26:14.010 grateful for you listening today. And also I'm so grateful 0:26:14.010 --> 0:26:17.700 to Far Eastern Broadcasting Company. They partner with Open Line 0:26:17.700 --> 0:26:21.750 to bring you the weekly Febc mailbag. And Far East 0:26:21.750 --> 0:26:24.840 Broadcasting Company is a terrific Horrific organization. They bring the 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.810 good news to people. They use media, but they also 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.960 use personal touch. And I appreciate that so much. You 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:34.469 should check out their podcast. It's called Until All Have 0:26:34.470 --> 0:26:38.070 Heard It features editor cannon. And to find that podcast 0:26:38.070 --> 0:26:44.939 just go to FBC org. That's fbc.org. Well joining me 0:26:44.940 --> 0:26:51.479 right now is uh, the troublemaker in charge. Is that it. 0:26:51.510 --> 0:26:53.010 I don't sure. 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.350 She keeps asking me questions. I don't know the answer 0:26:55.350 --> 0:26:56.070 to that. 0:26:56.100 --> 0:26:57.389 That part is true. Yeah. 0:26:58.109 --> 0:27:03.330 That's Tricia McMillan. I'm so glad that you're here. Uh, hey, Tricia. Uh, 0:27:03.330 --> 0:27:06.450 one of the things I loved about being on that cruise. 0:27:06.780 --> 0:27:08.400 Last month when. Yeah, it was. 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.859 A it was a lovely cruise and bus trip and 0:27:10.859 --> 0:27:12.840 all that. We saw the journeys of Paul. We saw 0:27:12.869 --> 0:27:15.660 great sights. But what I love most is I met 0:27:15.660 --> 0:27:18.270 all these people and they'd say, I'm a kitchen table partner. 0:27:18.270 --> 0:27:20.790 I'm a kitchen table partner, I'm part of the open 0:27:20.790 --> 0:27:23.830 line team. And it meant so much to me to 0:27:23.859 --> 0:27:26.859 to get to know people who are kitchen table partners. 0:27:26.859 --> 0:27:30.460 And it's because they so they were so encouraging because 0:27:30.460 --> 0:27:34.510 they really believe in the value of this program. And, 0:27:34.540 --> 0:27:39.220 you know, sometimes I forget you lose track. I bet 0:27:39.220 --> 0:27:41.320 you don't because you keep track of everything, but you 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.330 lose track that people are listening and growing. And I 0:27:43.330 --> 0:27:45.970 met people who said that they grow so much because 0:27:45.970 --> 0:27:48.609 of this Bible study that we're doing, and they became 0:27:48.609 --> 0:27:51.879 kitchen table partners. And I just appreciated that so much. 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.740 And I want to let people know that if you 0:27:53.740 --> 0:27:57.400 listen and you find this a really encouraging, helpful program, 0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.710 if you're walking closer with the Lord, you may have 0:27:59.710 --> 0:28:02.530 even given a gift occasionally to get a resource. But 0:28:02.530 --> 0:28:05.590 you'd like to say, hey, I'd like to formalize that 0:28:05.590 --> 0:28:09.369 into becoming a kitchen table partner. We'd so appreciate you 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.920 considering doing that. We'll send you a Bible study moment 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.639 every other week. It's a Bible study designed exclusively for 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.820 our kitchen table partners. You'll also get the whatever the 0:28:18.820 --> 0:28:21.379 resource is Periodically. 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.530 They have to request. They have to request it. Okay. 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:25.820 But you can request that. 0:28:25.850 --> 0:28:28.609 You can request it and get the resource whenever it changes. 0:28:28.609 --> 0:28:32.990 And so so grateful for that and just really, really 0:28:32.990 --> 0:28:35.330 grateful for those kitchen table partners. And that's what we 0:28:35.330 --> 0:28:37.220 want to do. When you do become one is to 0:28:37.250 --> 0:28:39.290 get that Bible study moment to you, get you the 0:28:39.290 --> 0:28:41.450 possibility to get the resource. I think you even get 0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.390 a Tumblr when you become a kitchen table partner. 0:28:44.420 --> 0:28:45.260 Yes you do. 0:28:45.290 --> 0:28:46.820 Yeah. So it's I. 0:28:46.820 --> 0:28:49.760 Think it's a mug. It's an online kitchen table partner mug. Okay. 0:28:49.790 --> 0:28:52.490 That's what it is. Good. I'm so glad. Well, anyway, 0:28:52.490 --> 0:28:54.740 if you'd like to become a kitchen table partner, all 0:28:54.740 --> 0:29:04.100 you have to do is call (888) 644-7122. That's (888) 644-7122. Or 0:29:04.100 --> 0:29:08.450 go to open line radio.org. And what have we got 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:09.650 in the mailbag Tricia. 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:10.580 All right. Well a question. 0:29:10.850 --> 0:29:13.430 That I've called you so many things. Queen of the. 0:29:13.430 --> 0:29:14.570 Questions. Yeah. 0:29:14.750 --> 0:29:16.040 Malka. That's the word. 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:17.480 Queen in Hebrew. Yeah. 0:29:17.510 --> 0:29:18.500 And now troublemaker. 0:29:18.500 --> 0:29:22.110 In charge maker. Yay! there we go. Well, our first 0:29:22.110 --> 0:29:25.380 question came in today. Um, I think after hearing your 0:29:25.380 --> 0:29:29.760 opening word in the first hour, uh, Yasmin wants to know, 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.310 as Christians who have received Jesus as our once and 0:29:32.310 --> 0:29:35.880 for all atonement, should we refrain from doing any activities 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.280 on this day, like your kids activities in order to 0:29:38.310 --> 0:29:41.340 observe this day as holy? Today is Yom Kippur. Um, 0:29:41.370 --> 0:29:45.090 and you had talked about that and what Jewish people do. 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.300 Yeah. Well, I'm a Jewish person. Yeah. I think this 0:29:48.300 --> 0:29:51.060 is the first time that Open Line has. I've hosted 0:29:51.060 --> 0:29:52.620 Open Line on on a. 0:29:52.620 --> 0:29:53.400 Saturday, Yom. 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:57.300 Kippur. Um, uh, I usually get a guest host, but frankly, 0:29:57.300 --> 0:29:59.280 we've got so many things happening in the past. And 0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:03.959 coming up, I couldn't be away. Yeah. And so, uh, 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.440 I do believe that this is holy work because I'm 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.170 teaching the Bible. That's when I led a messianic congregation. 0:30:10.170 --> 0:30:12.840 What did I do on Yom Kippur? I taught the Bible. 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.810 And so I'm grateful that I have this great privilege 0:30:15.810 --> 0:30:19.720 to teach the Bible, uh, even on a holy day. Uh, 0:30:19.750 --> 0:30:22.780 as a Jewish person, I identify with the Jewish people, 0:30:22.780 --> 0:30:26.020 and I usually take this day as a day of 0:30:26.050 --> 0:30:30.040 I'm still doing this day of personal reflection, prayer for 0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:34.900 my people. All that is still happening for me today, 0:30:34.900 --> 0:30:38.950 but I don't think I'm obliged. There's no obligation to 0:30:38.980 --> 0:30:42.040 do it, which is why I could be here today. Uh, 0:30:42.070 --> 0:30:44.530 a very unusual thing for me. I bet you were surprised. 0:30:44.530 --> 0:30:46.930 I was, when I realized I was like, wait, I 0:30:46.930 --> 0:30:49.870 don't think he's he's not normally here for this one, but. 0:30:49.900 --> 0:30:50.770 Yeah. Yeah. 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.150 I mean, I'm glad to see you, but. 0:30:52.180 --> 0:30:53.710 Yeah, but it's it's surprising. 0:30:53.740 --> 0:30:54.520 It is. Yes. 0:30:54.550 --> 0:30:56.830 It was the most surprised was Eva. She said you're 0:30:56.830 --> 0:31:00.250 doing what. So. But that's just me, you know, that's 0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:05.860 that's my, uh, personal conviction. I don't think anyone should 0:31:05.860 --> 0:31:09.970 have to feel that obligation, particularly if someone's not Jewish. If, 0:31:09.970 --> 0:31:13.840 as a Jewish person, I identify with my people completely 0:31:13.870 --> 0:31:16.990 on this day, and I will even fast. But my 0:31:17.030 --> 0:31:19.910 fasting isn't for atonement of my sins. I fast for 0:31:19.910 --> 0:31:22.760 my people to find atonement in Jesus, and I use 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.240 my my meal times to pray for my people. So. 0:31:26.270 --> 0:31:29.150 And then we we celebrate with other Jewish believers when 0:31:29.150 --> 0:31:32.479 we break fast. And that's always a fun thing to 0:31:32.510 --> 0:31:37.400 do to celebrate our mutual faith and confidence in our forgiveness, 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.880 our assurance of forgiveness. So I would say up to you, 0:31:40.910 --> 0:31:45.320 follow your conscience. Don't, don't in any way think that 0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:49.340 there's an obligation, but there's an opportunity if a person 0:31:49.340 --> 0:31:50.300 wants to do that. 0:31:50.330 --> 0:31:53.660 Okay. All right. Thank you. Thanks for that question, Yasmin. 0:31:53.690 --> 0:31:57.680 Our next question is from Gary in Indiana. Uh, he's 0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.800 in a study on the Gospel of John and wants 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:04.610 to know how do we harmonize? John? Um, looking at 0:32:04.610 --> 0:32:10.070 John one, um, starting in verse 35, it says again, 0:32:10.100 --> 0:32:12.860 the next day, John was standing with two of his 0:32:12.860 --> 0:32:16.110 disciples when he saw Jesus passing by. He said, look, 0:32:16.140 --> 0:32:18.810 the Lamb of God. The two disciples heard him say 0:32:18.810 --> 0:32:21.870 this and followed Jesus. When Jesus turned and noticed them 0:32:21.870 --> 0:32:25.050 following them, following him, he asked them, what are you 0:32:25.050 --> 0:32:28.140 looking for? They said to him, Rabbi, which means, teacher, 0:32:28.140 --> 0:32:30.990 where are you staying? Come and you'll see, he replied. 0:32:31.020 --> 0:32:32.670 So they went and saw where he was staying, and 0:32:32.670 --> 0:32:34.740 they stayed with him that day. It was about ten 0:32:34.770 --> 0:32:37.800 in the morning. Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, was one of 0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.260 the two who who had heard John and followed him. 0:32:40.290 --> 0:32:42.330 He first found his own brother Simon and told him, 0:32:42.330 --> 0:32:44.790 we have found the Messiah, which means anointed one, and 0:32:44.790 --> 0:32:48.690 brought him brought Simon to Jesus. So how do we 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:53.250 harmonize that with, um, saying that these two disciples had 0:32:53.250 --> 0:32:57.780 followed Jesus the day after Jesus's baptism with the other gospels, 0:32:57.780 --> 0:33:01.350 which would be Matthew, Mark, and Luke saying Jesus fasted 0:33:01.350 --> 0:33:04.170 and was in the desert tempted by Satan, and then 0:33:04.170 --> 0:33:05.760 chose his first disciples. 0:33:05.790 --> 0:33:06.210 Um. 0:33:06.510 --> 0:33:16.170 So, for example, you have Luke five. Uh. which is 0:33:16.170 --> 0:33:20.970 the first disciples, right? So they're on the Sea of Galilee, 0:33:20.970 --> 0:33:26.220 Lake Gennesaret, and they can't. These are the worst fishermen ever. 0:33:27.090 --> 0:33:28.800 They never can catch anything. 0:33:28.830 --> 0:33:30.030 It does seem that way. Yeah. 0:33:30.060 --> 0:33:31.890 And I think it's because they always had to mend 0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.830 their nets. Because their nets were so big. The fish were. No, no, 0:33:34.830 --> 0:33:37.950 that's not really true. But they spent more time mending 0:33:37.950 --> 0:33:42.660 nets than actually using them, it seems like. Uh. And 0:33:42.660 --> 0:33:45.840 the Lord does a miracle for them. And then what 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.860 does he do? Uh, he says, don't be afraid. From 0:33:49.860 --> 0:33:53.790 now on, you'll be catching people. And they brought the 0:33:53.790 --> 0:33:58.200 boats to land and left everything and followed him. So 0:33:58.230 --> 0:34:00.570 I actually think that what you have in John one 0:34:00.570 --> 0:34:06.240 is them first meeting Jesus and kind of becoming a 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:12.660 general follower of Jesus, then you have them following him more, uh, 0:34:12.790 --> 0:34:17.200 being called actually to be part of a closer knit circle. 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.110 So it's a second event, not the same event. 0:34:20.140 --> 0:34:20.950 Okay. 0:34:21.190 --> 0:34:25.420 Uh, and then what you have is like, for example, 0:34:25.630 --> 0:34:33.430 in Matthew ten, where he, uh, summoning his 12 disciples, 0:34:33.430 --> 0:34:38.680 he gave them authority, and then they became the 12 apostles. Uh, 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:45.010 so what you have is a gradual, uh, a movement 0:34:45.010 --> 0:34:48.279 of them to becoming called into the inner circle, so 0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.340 to speak. Okay. Uh, and that's so it's not the 0:34:51.340 --> 0:34:53.290 same event in John one as in Luke five. 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.210 Okay. So, okay. And Matthew. 0:34:55.210 --> 0:34:55.390 Ten. 0:34:55.420 --> 0:34:58.359 Even so, it does, though I think the what we 0:34:58.390 --> 0:35:00.460 find that the Matthew, Mark, and Luke are often called 0:35:00.460 --> 0:35:05.259 the synoptic Gospels because they have a lot of similar stories. Um, 0:35:05.260 --> 0:35:06.430 and then there's John. 0:35:06.820 --> 0:35:07.900 Kind of John tells. 0:35:07.900 --> 0:35:08.770 It much later. 0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:09.400 Yeah. Okay. 0:35:09.430 --> 0:35:11.560 His book is much later, and he tells it from 0:35:11.570 --> 0:35:15.680 his perspective alone. They all do what they are. People 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.010 think of the gospels as biographies and they're looking for 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:24.230 why is there any kind of difference? But they're more, um, 0:35:24.260 --> 0:35:28.580 Apostolic memoirs is what I would call it. Uh, a 0:35:28.580 --> 0:35:31.670 memoir is like when someone goes to work in the 0:35:31.670 --> 0:35:35.390 administration as secretary of defense or the chief of staff 0:35:35.390 --> 0:35:39.469 or whatever they do, speechwriter and then they leave whatever 0:35:39.469 --> 0:35:44.390 presidential administration, and they write their memoir, and then we 0:35:44.420 --> 0:35:47.240 don't get the memoirs out and compare what the chief 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:52.010 of staff wrote compared to the the the counsel to 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.670 the president. Why do we do that? We don't. Why 0:35:55.670 --> 0:35:58.880 don't we compare? Because they each had their own experience, 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:02.029 and they're writing it from their own perspective, and they 0:36:02.030 --> 0:36:06.530 can harmonize, but they aren't necessarily the same experience. And 0:36:06.530 --> 0:36:10.710 so I think that, uh, John is thinking about when 0:36:10.710 --> 0:36:16.500 he first met Jesus. Okay. And and the disciples and 0:36:16.530 --> 0:36:21.750 the Synoptics, or particularly the different gospels, are also doing, 0:36:21.780 --> 0:36:24.870 having a different purpose, different plan. So as a result, 0:36:24.870 --> 0:36:28.680 they're not exactly the same. And they have to be harmonized, 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.110 but they're not the same. And sometimes you might read 0:36:31.110 --> 0:36:33.509 A Life of Christ like A.T. Robertson did A Life 0:36:33.510 --> 0:36:36.629 of Christ, where he takes all the passages and harmonizes them. 0:36:36.630 --> 0:36:39.900 There's other life. Live other books called The Life of 0:36:39.900 --> 0:36:42.419 Christ as well. But A.T. Robertson is most famous. 0:36:42.420 --> 0:36:46.050 Or even a harmonization, like I have, um, a harmonization 0:36:46.050 --> 0:36:48.900 of the Bible book, which just takes all of the 0:36:48.900 --> 0:36:50.520 scriptures and sticks them in. 0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:51.150 Harmony in. 0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.940 Chronological like these happen at the same time. And this 0:36:53.940 --> 0:36:56.100 happened first. And then this passage from John will be 0:36:56.100 --> 0:36:57.480 slipped in and that kind of thing. 0:36:57.510 --> 0:36:58.260 Exactly. 0:36:58.260 --> 0:37:02.490 And so, uh, I like to read each gospel on 0:37:02.489 --> 0:37:03.360 its own merit. 0:37:03.390 --> 0:37:03.810 Okay. 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.259 But, uh, to help people understand that they're true. It's 0:37:07.260 --> 0:37:11.050 good to harmonize them, but for understanding their meaning, stick 0:37:11.050 --> 0:37:12.550 to each one individually. 0:37:12.580 --> 0:37:13.330 Okay. Okay. 0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:13.900 So is it kind of. 0:37:13.930 --> 0:37:14.560 Like. 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.710 My family goes on vacation and then we come all 0:37:17.739 --> 0:37:20.469 together and we say, here's what my vacation was like. 0:37:20.500 --> 0:37:22.000 Yeah. Everyone has a different story. 0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.160 Got a different story. And some of you were there for. 0:37:24.370 --> 0:37:27.250 And others you heard second hand or you heard. Yeah. 0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.140 You know, like my sister told me this story, that 0:37:29.140 --> 0:37:30.130 this is what happened. 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:30.850 Yeah. She was. 0:37:30.850 --> 0:37:31.660 At the beach and this and. 0:37:31.660 --> 0:37:32.410 This happened, and I. 0:37:32.410 --> 0:37:34.810 Wasn't there, but I. This is what she said. And 0:37:34.810 --> 0:37:37.600 so I can include that in the vacation stories. Okay. 0:37:37.630 --> 0:37:39.100 Exactly. That's a good way of doing it. 0:37:39.130 --> 0:37:40.930 Okay. So yeah those vary. 0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:42.489 They do vary, don't they? 0:37:42.580 --> 0:37:42.850 Like you. 0:37:42.850 --> 0:37:44.650 Did what? Where was I? 0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.020 Where was I? You were cooking. That's it. 0:37:47.380 --> 0:37:51.759 Okay. All right. Thank you for that. Um, I think 0:37:51.790 --> 0:37:52.779 I think that's it. 0:37:52.780 --> 0:37:53.980 That's it. We're gonna take a break here. 0:37:54.010 --> 0:37:55.240 Let's take a break. Thank you. 0:37:55.270 --> 0:37:57.580 Tricia, for bringing those questions. I hope that helps people 0:37:57.580 --> 0:38:00.190 understand the gospels and get yourself a good harmony of 0:38:00.190 --> 0:38:03.430 the Gospels. And that will answer a lot of those questions. Uh, 0:38:03.610 --> 0:38:06.070 when we when we come back, we're going to take 0:38:06.070 --> 0:38:08.480 more of your questions, so don't go away. 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And so I have this question 0:40:30.930 --> 0:40:33.600 that I think about when we read this story of 0:40:33.810 --> 0:40:37.950 why did Jonah not just, I guess, like, throw himself 0:40:37.980 --> 0:40:41.520 off the boat in the storm and instead, you know, 0:40:41.550 --> 0:40:43.410 he knew he was the cause of the storm. And 0:40:43.410 --> 0:40:46.290 he said, if you throw me overboard, you know, the 0:40:46.290 --> 0:40:48.990 the storm will calm. Maybe I was just. 0:40:49.020 --> 0:40:51.600 Maybe he was afraid to commit suicide, which is what 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:55.290 he would be doing, I guess, uh, I wouldn't want 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:56.880 to jump into that. But he knew he had to 0:40:56.910 --> 0:40:58.799 get into it and get off the boat. So he 0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:03.180 asked them to throw him. Uh, or maybe, uh, because, 0:41:03.969 --> 0:41:07.240 maybe maybe it was. You know, I've been on these boats. 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.100 It's a little hard to get to them to the 0:41:09.100 --> 0:41:11.170 place where you would do. It's not like an easy 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.650 way to jump off. So maybe he just maybe for 0:41:14.650 --> 0:41:16.780 the sake of ease, he would have him throw him overboard. 0:41:16.780 --> 0:41:19.510 I don't know what the answer is, but probably it's 0:41:19.510 --> 0:41:24.009 one of those. Okay. Okay, great. Thanks for your call. 0:41:24.010 --> 0:41:27.010 Appreciate it. We're going to talk to Lucy in Holland, Michigan, 0:41:27.010 --> 0:41:32.530 listening on Wndb. Go ahead with your question, Lucy. Yes. 0:41:32.530 --> 0:41:37.120 Hello. So this has to do with lying. And in 0:41:37.150 --> 0:41:42.010 two verses particularly, it seems that the Lord has folks lie. 0:41:42.310 --> 0:41:47.680 One is having Samuel lie to the elders of Bethlehem. 0:41:48.460 --> 0:41:50.980 Why he is there. He's saying that he's there to 0:41:51.010 --> 0:41:54.430 sacrifice when actually he's there looking for the next king. 0:41:54.550 --> 0:41:57.100 And then. But did he sacrifice too? 0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:00.100 Did he sacrifice too? Yes. 0:42:00.130 --> 0:42:03.710 Okay, so he just didn't give him all the information. 0:42:07.580 --> 0:42:11.450 Well, yeah, but still it wasn't. You know, the whole 0:42:11.450 --> 0:42:12.740 point was that he was fearful. 0:42:12.770 --> 0:42:14.210 I'm going to I'm going to answer your question. 0:42:14.210 --> 0:42:14.540 In a minute. 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:16.520 But but okay. 0:42:16.730 --> 0:42:20.360 And then. Okay. And then the second one is Exodus 318, 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.469 where the Lord has Joseph and Aaron lie to Pharaoh, 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:28.130 asking to let his let the people go for three 0:42:28.130 --> 0:42:32.150 days so that they can sacrifice to their Lord, when 0:42:32.210 --> 0:42:36.710 actually the intent was to get everybody out of there completely. 0:42:36.739 --> 0:42:40.310 Actually, it might have been a that actually might have 0:42:40.310 --> 0:42:44.000 been true, but Pharaoh resisted. So then it expanded to 0:42:44.030 --> 0:42:48.560 a complete exodus. That might have been just like preparatory 0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.380 for what would have later been the Exodus. And then 0:42:51.410 --> 0:42:53.479 when Pharaoh wouldn't do it, then they just went ahead 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.450 with the Exodus, so that that could very well have 0:42:56.450 --> 0:42:59.149 been a true statement, not a lie. But I find 0:42:59.150 --> 0:43:03.000 it interesting when you see people like in Exodus one, 0:43:03.030 --> 0:43:08.399 the midwives lie. Uh, right. And it says, verse 20, 0:43:08.430 --> 0:43:10.950 so God was good to the midwives. And the Hebrew 0:43:10.980 --> 0:43:14.760 is very clear. It connects the blessing of God to the, 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:19.770 the dishonesty, the lie of, of the midwives. Same thing 0:43:19.770 --> 0:43:22.560 with Rahab. God blesses her. She's called a woman of faith. 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.810 What does she do? She lies about the 12 spies. 0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.680 She lies right? I think that what the. What? The 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:33.750 truth of it is, is that there are certain circumstances, uh, 0:43:33.750 --> 0:43:39.540 where you have to choose the greater good. So, for example, 0:43:39.540 --> 0:43:42.810 with the midwives and with Rahab, they were. Saving a 0:43:42.810 --> 0:43:48.000 life is superior to truth telling. All things being equal, 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:51.570 always tell the truth. But when you have two commandments 0:43:51.570 --> 0:43:59.129 in conflict with each other, like preserving life versus uh, uh, 0:43:59.820 --> 0:44:03.450 telling the truth. You choose the greater of the two, 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:07.350 the greater good. And so as a result of that, 0:44:07.380 --> 0:44:09.960 it's sort of like. I'll give you the illustration. What 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:14.850 if you, uh. Are you married? Do you have kids? 0:44:15.930 --> 0:44:16.589 No. I'm not. 0:44:16.620 --> 0:44:17.430 Okay, well. 0:44:17.460 --> 0:44:18.210 I know I don't. 0:44:18.210 --> 0:44:21.359 Uh, my wife is married to me, and we had kids. 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:26.220 And when we were driving to the, uh, to the doctors, 0:44:26.219 --> 0:44:28.739 I was very careful for the. When she was giving birth, 0:44:28.739 --> 0:44:30.420 when she was in labor, I was very careful to 0:44:30.450 --> 0:44:34.590 stop at every light. However, if she were really close, 0:44:34.620 --> 0:44:36.480 I'll tell you what I'd have done. I'd have gone 0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:39.540 to those lights. I would have checked both ways, and 0:44:39.540 --> 0:44:42.480 then I would have driven right through. Right. I would 0:44:42.510 --> 0:44:46.350 have broken that traffic law. Why? Because of, uh, for 0:44:46.350 --> 0:44:48.210 the greater good of my wife. And if the police 0:44:48.210 --> 0:44:50.160 had stopped me, I would have said, my wife's in labor. 0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:52.980 She's giving birth. They'd have said, follow us. And they 0:44:53.010 --> 0:44:56.490 would put their, uh, sirens on their headlights and their 0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:01.700 their flashing lights and taking me through. Uh, right. So 0:45:01.730 --> 0:45:06.950 what what it is is it's it's following the greater good, 0:45:06.950 --> 0:45:10.970 and then you're exempt from the lesser commandment. It's not 0:45:10.969 --> 0:45:13.520 that you get to break it and and have to 0:45:13.550 --> 0:45:17.089 confess it is. You're exempt from it. And so when, 0:45:17.090 --> 0:45:21.290 when there's a greater and again, all things being equal, 0:45:21.290 --> 0:45:24.560 always tell the truth. But when telling the truth, you know, 0:45:24.590 --> 0:45:27.170 are you just think about the Nazis. Are you hiding 0:45:27.170 --> 0:45:31.310 any Jewish people in your house? Uh, yeah. Here they are. 0:45:31.610 --> 0:45:34.940 You know. No. You want to preserve life, you know? Right? 0:45:34.940 --> 0:45:38.660 You know, the you know, you let them in, don't 0:45:38.690 --> 0:45:41.480 you know, and let them search because you've hidden them well, 0:45:41.510 --> 0:45:44.750 but don't, uh, you might even tell a lie. No. 0:45:44.750 --> 0:45:48.920 No Jews being hidden here. Uh, that's that's a really 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:52.220 important principle that we learn that the greater good is 0:45:52.219 --> 0:45:55.700 to preserve life. And. And then you're exempt from the 0:45:55.700 --> 0:45:58.819 truth telling commandment. Okay. Does that help at all? 0:45:58.940 --> 0:46:01.400 Samuel then? Well, it does help. But in the case 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.560 of Samuel, there's really not life. 0:46:03.830 --> 0:46:06.770 Well, the great, the greater good was not to stir 0:46:06.770 --> 0:46:11.840 up the killing of David and his family. Uh, which 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.420 would have happened by. By Saul if they had announced. 0:46:14.420 --> 0:46:16.850 I'm looking for a new king. So. 0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:17.450 Okay. 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:18.830 Yeah, I get it. 0:46:18.830 --> 0:46:19.310 Good. 0:46:19.310 --> 0:46:24.050 Thanks. Appreciate it. Lucy. Thanks. Thanks for listening. 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