1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 S1: Hi friends, thanks so much for downloading this podcast and 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,480 S1: I hope truly that you will hear something that will encourage, edify, 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,160 S1: equip and enlighten you to get out there and influence 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,880 S1: and occupy until he comes. And on that note, may 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,760 S1: I take just a few moments here to describe this 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,800 S1: month's truth tool? It's by pastor Jack Hibbs. He's written 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,599 S1: the book called Called to Take a Bold Stand. I 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,480 S1: absolutely love this book because it reminds us that in Christ, 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,480 S1: all things pass away, all things become new, that we 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,200 S1: are standing for his truth, that we have a new nature. 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,080 S1: Because of him, we should be living boldly. But far 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,120 S1: too often we retreat out of fear from cultural blowback. 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,600 S1: So I want to encourage all of us to just 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,800 S1: stand up for Christ, to be unashamed of who we 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,080 S1: are in him, and to go into a culture that's 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,600 S1: telling us in no uncertain terms they're lost and they're hurting. 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,720 S1: So if you'd like a copy of Pastor Hibbs new 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,400 S1: book called Call to Take a Bold Stand, just give 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,519 S1: a gift of any amount by calling 877 Janet 58. 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,000 S1: We are listener supported radio and this is my way 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,160 S1: of saying thank you. So that number again is 877 22 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,600 S1: Janet 58. 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Today's program 40 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,720 S2: is where Janet and her husband, Craig, take some of 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,880 S2: the stories making headlines this week and offer their insight 42 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,800 S2: and analysis. Before they get started, let's take a quick 43 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,030 S2: look back at some of the highlights from the week. 44 00:02:04,270 --> 00:02:06,070 S3: I love this line from one of his works, he says. 45 00:02:06,070 --> 00:02:08,310 S3: I confess that I have been as blind as a mole, 46 00:02:08,350 --> 00:02:10,950 S3: but is better to learn wisdom late than to never 47 00:02:10,950 --> 00:02:12,989 S3: learn it at all. So when we realize we've had 48 00:02:12,990 --> 00:02:15,390 S3: a bias, we have to be willing to change. We 49 00:02:15,389 --> 00:02:17,830 S3: have to be able to change our thoughts with the 50 00:02:17,830 --> 00:02:20,190 S3: evidence that we receive. And that goes both for the 51 00:02:20,190 --> 00:02:24,109 S3: the Christian and the skeptic. Uh, either or. It's are 52 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:26,990 S3: we approaching it with, uh, leaving China as much as 53 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:30,190 S3: we can? It's probably impossible to do it completely, but 54 00:02:30,190 --> 00:02:33,790 S3: leaving our, our, our biases at the door. And when 55 00:02:33,790 --> 00:02:35,590 S3: we when we try to enter in and try to 56 00:02:35,590 --> 00:02:38,590 S3: solve the, uh, the meaning of a passage of Scripture. 57 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:40,790 S4: They didn't want to get involved. And I don't blame him. 58 00:02:40,830 --> 00:02:42,550 S4: I mean, you don't want to be involved in a 59 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:46,870 S4: regime with a regime like the Iranian one, uh, who 60 00:02:46,870 --> 00:02:51,030 S4: is really going to fire indiscriminately, as you we have 61 00:02:51,030 --> 00:02:53,550 S4: seen so far. But it is very obvious that the 62 00:02:53,550 --> 00:02:57,109 S4: regime had already the plan in motion. If I get hit, 63 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:59,630 S4: here is what I'm going to be doing. And I 64 00:02:59,630 --> 00:03:03,590 S4: think it's about time for, uh, my former country, Saudi 65 00:03:03,790 --> 00:03:07,870 S4: and the other Gulf states, obviously, to, uh, do something 66 00:03:07,870 --> 00:03:11,070 S4: about this and put an end to this 47 years 67 00:03:11,070 --> 00:03:15,510 S4: of oppression and, uh, manipulation of the entire region. 68 00:03:15,710 --> 00:03:18,750 S5: I think people do know what the Bible has to say. 69 00:03:18,750 --> 00:03:22,230 S5: We talk a lot about Bible illiteracy. Um, but in 70 00:03:22,230 --> 00:03:28,150 S5: our survey, we found some pretty, um, um, shocking things that, um, 71 00:03:28,550 --> 00:03:33,510 S5: people know a lot about who Jesus is. It's just 72 00:03:33,510 --> 00:03:36,910 S5: a lot of them don't follow him. So, uh, uh, 73 00:03:36,910 --> 00:03:40,510 S5: Bible sales is one indicator. But, you know, even in 74 00:03:40,510 --> 00:03:43,990 S5: the good old days, uh, we found that Christians owned 75 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:49,350 S5: four Bibles and never read them. So it's like, it's, um, 76 00:03:49,470 --> 00:03:53,470 S5: it's definitely a step in the right direction, but it's 77 00:03:53,470 --> 00:03:55,830 S5: just a baby step. Trump. 78 00:03:55,870 --> 00:04:01,510 S6: And Netanyahu did not only attack the missile sites. Not 79 00:04:01,510 --> 00:04:05,470 S6: only the nuclear sites. For the last two days, they 80 00:04:05,470 --> 00:04:12,550 S6: have been attacking the Revolutionary Guard centers, and that brings 81 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:16,190 S6: joy to the people of Iran because they say, hey, 82 00:04:16,430 --> 00:04:20,030 S6: you killed our children. Now it's your turn. Yeah. And 83 00:04:20,470 --> 00:04:23,510 S6: and they are waiting and they're very hopeful. Now, the 84 00:04:23,510 --> 00:04:26,870 S6: government of Iran tried to stay on. They had they're 85 00:04:26,910 --> 00:04:30,310 S6: choosing a new supreme leader, but they're very weak. It's 86 00:04:30,310 --> 00:04:35,349 S6: possible that they will even be imploding even this week, 87 00:04:35,390 --> 00:04:37,670 S6: or maybe in a few weeks, a few months. But 88 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:39,909 S6: they are on their way now. So this would. 89 00:04:39,910 --> 00:04:43,429 S7: Mean that they'd have to believe in the, uh, in, 90 00:04:43,470 --> 00:04:48,510 S7: in the ongoing nature of the Abrahamic covenant, that it's unconditional. 91 00:04:48,670 --> 00:04:52,750 S7: It's God's responsibility to turn the Jewish people to himself 92 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:56,350 S7: in belief and that the land does not belong to 93 00:04:56,350 --> 00:05:00,950 S7: the Jewish people because they deserve it. The land belongs 94 00:05:00,950 --> 00:05:03,190 S7: to the Jewish people because God gave it to the 95 00:05:03,190 --> 00:05:06,910 S7: Jewish people. Okay. And and so here's, here's the number 96 00:05:06,910 --> 00:05:10,830 S7: from the evangelicals. 70%. 97 00:05:11,550 --> 00:05:11,910 S1: Wow. 98 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:16,190 S7: And 20% didn't say no. They said, I don't know. 99 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:20,150 S8: People just can't fathom how they're tied together. And I 100 00:05:20,150 --> 00:05:23,110 S8: remember being there the first time I walked by a 101 00:05:23,110 --> 00:05:26,190 S8: Jewish synagogue in Tehran. And we had a guide. We 102 00:05:26,190 --> 00:05:29,710 S8: had to have a guide with us. And I said, 103 00:05:29,710 --> 00:05:32,989 S8: I'm shocked to see this. I'm shocked to see that 104 00:05:32,990 --> 00:05:35,470 S8: the Star of David on this synagogue. And he said, 105 00:05:35,470 --> 00:05:38,910 S8: oh yeah, we've been we've been together, uh, since the 106 00:05:38,910 --> 00:05:42,270 S8: Babylonian captivity. You know, we we wouldn't have any problems 107 00:05:42,270 --> 00:05:45,830 S8: with the Jews and the government doesn't like Israel, but we, 108 00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:48,990 S8: you know, we're like cousins. We respect each other. 109 00:05:50,790 --> 00:05:53,230 S2: To hear the full interviews from any of those guests 110 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:56,539 S2: go to in the market with Janet Parshall and click 111 00:05:56,540 --> 00:05:59,500 S2: on past programs. Here are some other stories making headlines 112 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:00,100 S2: this week. 113 00:06:00,820 --> 00:06:05,299 S9: Embattled US Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was removed from 114 00:06:05,300 --> 00:06:06,700 S9: her post on Thursday. 115 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:11,220 S10: A closely watched U.S. jobs report showed the economy unexpectedly 116 00:06:11,220 --> 00:06:16,780 S10: shed 92,000 jobs last month, and the unemployment rate rose 117 00:06:16,779 --> 00:06:18,420 S10: to 4.4%. 118 00:06:18,460 --> 00:06:22,420 S11: The US-Israel war with Iran could disrupt supplies of key 119 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:24,940 S11: semiconductor manufacturing materials. 120 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:28,420 S2: Janet and Craig have lots to share, and they'll put 121 00:06:28,420 --> 00:06:30,940 S2: the first story on the table when we return. To 122 00:06:30,940 --> 00:06:33,539 S2: get more information or to download the podcast of any 123 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:35,900 S2: of the interviews, go to In the Market with Janet. 124 00:06:51,779 --> 00:06:54,020 S1: The Bible calls us to be bold and courageous for 125 00:06:54,020 --> 00:06:55,980 S1: the cause of the cross, but too often we retreat 126 00:06:55,980 --> 00:06:58,860 S1: because of fear of cultural blowback. That's why I've chosen 127 00:06:58,860 --> 00:07:01,339 S1: Call to Take a bold stand as this month's truth tool. 128 00:07:01,339 --> 00:07:04,700 S1: Discover how to overcome the fear of intimidation or persecution. 129 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:06,740 S1: Ask for your copy of Call to Take a Bold 130 00:07:06,740 --> 00:07:08,300 S1: stand when you give a gift of any amount to 131 00:07:08,339 --> 00:07:12,660 S1: in the market, call 877 Janet 58. That's 877 Janet 132 00:07:12,660 --> 00:07:15,180 S1: 58 or go to in the market with Janet Parshall. 133 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:20,140 S1: Happy Friday to you friends. Mr. Craig is with me 134 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:22,340 S1: as he is usually on Fridays, and we got a 135 00:07:22,340 --> 00:07:25,100 S1: boatload of conversation to have with you. We're going to 136 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:26,700 S1: look at a bunch of issues out there in the 137 00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:28,620 S1: marketplace of ideas, but we're going to look at them 138 00:07:28,620 --> 00:07:31,220 S1: a little differently. We've got our glasses on. It's the 139 00:07:31,220 --> 00:07:33,580 S1: lens of Scripture. And you know what that always gives you? 140 00:07:33,580 --> 00:07:37,220 S1: 2020 vision. Before we dive into our conversation, I just 141 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:38,980 S1: want to because I care for you and I'd like 142 00:07:38,980 --> 00:07:40,940 S1: you to be there on time for church on Sunday. 143 00:07:41,220 --> 00:07:43,620 S1: We move our clocks this weekend. I can't believe it, 144 00:07:43,620 --> 00:07:45,660 S1: but it's that time already. We're getting a little more 145 00:07:45,660 --> 00:07:47,900 S1: sunshine toward the end of the day. I love that, 146 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:50,140 S1: but you do it before you go to bed tonight. 147 00:07:50,180 --> 00:07:53,260 S1: Tomorrow night? Did I just say tonight? Forgive that tomorrow night. 148 00:07:53,420 --> 00:07:55,420 S1: And I'm telling you that because you don't want to 149 00:07:55,420 --> 00:07:59,220 S1: miss church. Because we moved the clocks. Forward, spring forward, 150 00:07:59,220 --> 00:08:01,020 S1: fall back. Whoever came up for that, give him a 151 00:08:01,020 --> 00:08:02,980 S1: high five. That's a great way to remember it. So 152 00:08:02,980 --> 00:08:06,060 S1: we move the clocks forward. Daylight savings time starting at 153 00:08:06,060 --> 00:08:09,620 S1: midnight on Saturday night. So move those clocks because you're 154 00:08:09,620 --> 00:08:11,460 S1: going to be an hour late for church. Otherwise. There 155 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:13,700 S1: I did my duty, so be sure and move those clocks. 156 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:16,300 S1: Second of all, I want to remind you. Pastor Jack 157 00:08:16,300 --> 00:08:18,380 S1: Hibbs is the author of this month's Truth Tool. I 158 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:21,340 S1: just love this. And I have to tell you, when 159 00:08:21,340 --> 00:08:23,700 S1: I chose this book as our truth tool, I did 160 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:26,340 S1: not know that we would be involved in Operation Epic Fury. 161 00:08:26,620 --> 00:08:28,700 S1: The book is called called to Take a Bold Stand 162 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:32,420 S1: resilient and Effective Faith for a Godless Age. And when 163 00:08:32,420 --> 00:08:34,740 S1: you look at everything that's going on around us in 164 00:08:34,740 --> 00:08:38,540 S1: the culture, it would be easy to stumble blindly into 165 00:08:38,620 --> 00:08:41,340 S1: evil and turmoil, and it would be easy for us 166 00:08:41,540 --> 00:08:43,940 S1: to lose our heart and to lose our faith and 167 00:08:43,940 --> 00:08:47,340 S1: to grow weary in Well-doing. This book is a profound 168 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:51,300 S1: encouragement to take advantage of every moment. You have to 169 00:08:51,340 --> 00:08:54,540 S1: know God to influence and occupy and to have people 170 00:08:54,580 --> 00:08:56,500 S1: say beyond a shadow of a doubt, they're there. That's 171 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:58,540 S1: a follower of the way you want to be a 172 00:08:58,540 --> 00:09:00,700 S1: standout in the crowd, so it's yours for a gift 173 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:06,900 S1: of any amount. We're listener supported. Radio (877) 588-7758 or online 174 00:09:07,340 --> 00:09:11,220 S1: at In the Market with Janet Parshall. Just asked for 175 00:09:11,220 --> 00:09:13,420 S1: call to take a bold stand. If you just said 176 00:09:13,460 --> 00:09:15,780 S1: bold stand, I bet the dear folks on the phones 177 00:09:15,780 --> 00:09:17,620 S1: would be able to help you as well. Or just say, 178 00:09:17,620 --> 00:09:21,380 S1: I want Jack Hibbs books. So 877 Janet 58 online 179 00:09:21,380 --> 00:09:24,699 S1: in the market with Janet Parshall. Oh all right. Very 180 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:26,820 S1: often one of the things that we do on Friday, 181 00:09:26,820 --> 00:09:28,700 S1: if you listen regularly, you know, this is I play 182 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:31,460 S1: what we call wolf audio that emanates out of, um, 183 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:34,020 S1: a verse in Matthew where Jesus is talking and he 184 00:09:34,020 --> 00:09:36,459 S1: tells us to be aware of those who are wearing 185 00:09:36,460 --> 00:09:40,420 S1: sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. And we. 186 00:09:40,740 --> 00:09:43,620 S1: That's exactly the sound. Thank you. Stephen, that's exactly the 187 00:09:43,620 --> 00:09:45,780 S1: sound I want people to get used to hearing. So 188 00:09:46,140 --> 00:09:48,380 S1: wolves come in all shapes and sizes. We tend to 189 00:09:48,450 --> 00:09:50,250 S1: focus on the wolves that stand up in front of 190 00:09:50,250 --> 00:09:51,969 S1: the pulpit, because there is where you and I need 191 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:54,809 S1: to be Bereans. And there were people of noble character. 192 00:09:54,809 --> 00:09:56,570 S1: Wouldn't you love to have the Bible say that you 193 00:09:56,570 --> 00:09:59,610 S1: were a person of noble character? I mean, think of 194 00:09:59,610 --> 00:10:02,809 S1: that in your gravestone. Here lies a person of noble character. Wow. 195 00:10:02,850 --> 00:10:06,210 S1: I think that's breathtaking. But they became people of noble 196 00:10:06,210 --> 00:10:08,410 S1: character because they were willing to test all things. And 197 00:10:08,410 --> 00:10:12,370 S1: they weren't testing the pagans, the Epicureans, the Stoics, the 198 00:10:12,370 --> 00:10:16,490 S1: Greek philosophers, they were questioning Paul, which means just because 199 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:18,250 S1: it's coming out of the mouth of somebody standing in 200 00:10:18,250 --> 00:10:21,090 S1: front of a pulpit means that it's truth. You use 201 00:10:21,090 --> 00:10:23,170 S1: the Bible as a plumb line. Book of Amos talks 202 00:10:23,170 --> 00:10:25,770 S1: about that. D.L. Moody talks about the plumb line as well. 203 00:10:25,770 --> 00:10:28,650 S1: The straight stick of truth is God's word. So measure 204 00:10:28,650 --> 00:10:31,290 S1: what's being said all the time. And you're not being sinful. 205 00:10:31,290 --> 00:10:34,610 S1: You're not being critical. Just winsomely say, I don't know. 206 00:10:34,610 --> 00:10:36,730 S1: And if you have the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit, 207 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:38,929 S1: and if you've accepted Christ as your personal Savior, you 208 00:10:38,970 --> 00:10:41,530 S1: most assuredly do, then I like to call it my 209 00:10:41,530 --> 00:10:44,209 S1: spiritual Geiger counter starts going off. Ding ding ding ding ding. 210 00:10:44,210 --> 00:10:46,490 S1: Something's not right. Oh, that doesn't make sense. And I 211 00:10:46,490 --> 00:10:48,090 S1: can't tell you how many times Greg and I have 212 00:10:48,090 --> 00:10:49,570 S1: sat together and went, well, let's go to what the 213 00:10:49,570 --> 00:10:53,290 S1: word says. Open it up. Sometimes we're wrong. Sometimes the 214 00:10:53,290 --> 00:10:55,650 S1: person who said what we were questioning is dead wrong. 215 00:10:55,650 --> 00:10:57,930 S1: So just do that. But I'm going to take a 216 00:10:57,929 --> 00:11:00,570 S1: little turn. Hopefully I'll get to some wolf audio from 217 00:11:00,570 --> 00:11:03,250 S1: the pulpit later on. But this is Wolf Audio. I 218 00:11:03,250 --> 00:11:06,090 S1: want you to hear, because I'm in Washington, been here 219 00:11:06,090 --> 00:11:11,969 S1: a long time. I take umbrage when Christianity is taken 220 00:11:12,010 --> 00:11:15,530 S1: out of its dusty closet spot, and it's used as 221 00:11:15,530 --> 00:11:19,730 S1: a cudgel or fishing bait to try to get votes. 222 00:11:19,730 --> 00:11:21,810 S1: I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. 223 00:11:21,809 --> 00:11:24,930 S1: It's repugnant to me. Somebody, by the way, got a 224 00:11:24,929 --> 00:11:28,290 S1: schooling because there was a very liberal theologian that was 225 00:11:28,290 --> 00:11:31,410 S1: on the Hill that was questioning some issue, and she 226 00:11:31,410 --> 00:11:33,370 S1: didn't know she was being questioned by a member of 227 00:11:33,370 --> 00:11:35,970 S1: the Congress who had a pretty stellar background in Scripture 228 00:11:35,970 --> 00:11:37,410 S1: and really took her to task and what it said. 229 00:11:37,450 --> 00:11:39,290 S1: And I thought it was fascinating. I saw this repartee 230 00:11:39,330 --> 00:11:42,610 S1: back and forth where it was really systematic theology. And 231 00:11:42,610 --> 00:11:44,810 S1: I'm here to tell you that there was clearly one 232 00:11:44,809 --> 00:11:47,210 S1: side that was articulating the truth on one side that wasn't. 233 00:11:47,210 --> 00:11:50,770 S1: But in politics, oftentimes, particularly when you get close to 234 00:11:50,770 --> 00:11:53,530 S1: an election, all of a sudden the Jesus tool gets 235 00:11:53,530 --> 00:11:56,930 S1: taken out and it's used in a manipulative fashion more 236 00:11:56,929 --> 00:12:00,690 S1: often than not. Sometimes it's sincere, but very often it's not. 237 00:12:00,850 --> 00:12:04,010 S1: And it's particularly repugnant when what is being espoused is 238 00:12:04,010 --> 00:12:08,250 S1: absolutely antithetical to what the scriptures say. So I'm not 239 00:12:08,250 --> 00:12:10,929 S1: going to name names in material, but there were some 240 00:12:10,929 --> 00:12:13,730 S1: primaries held across the country this week, and one of 241 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:18,250 S1: those primaries had someone win the his party's primary in 242 00:12:18,250 --> 00:12:21,650 S1: his district and his state served at the state level, 243 00:12:21,650 --> 00:12:23,890 S1: wants to serve at the federal level. But he also 244 00:12:23,890 --> 00:12:27,730 S1: happens to be a Presbyterian seminarian. Now, Presbyterians, my friends 245 00:12:27,730 --> 00:12:30,610 S1: who are listening, there are some bedrock, solid Presbyterians. And 246 00:12:30,610 --> 00:12:32,930 S1: then there are some that are so left of center. 247 00:12:32,929 --> 00:12:34,490 S1: And that's why there's been a kind of schism, even 248 00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:37,850 S1: in the Presbyterian Church. This individual is a graduate of 249 00:12:37,890 --> 00:12:39,850 S1: that far left spectrum. So I'm just going to have 250 00:12:39,850 --> 00:12:41,890 S1: you here just a series. And Craig, are you going 251 00:12:41,929 --> 00:12:43,330 S1: to take notes on this? Because I'm going to go 252 00:12:43,330 --> 00:12:45,330 S1: round robin on some of the things that he said. 253 00:12:45,610 --> 00:12:48,730 S1: So first of all, here's a statement the man made. 254 00:12:48,730 --> 00:12:51,970 S1: And again, his name is immaterial. We're going to examine 255 00:12:51,970 --> 00:12:54,650 S1: what came out of his mouth. Here's what he said 256 00:12:54,650 --> 00:12:58,090 S1: about God and his, um, his sexuality. Have a listen. 257 00:12:58,330 --> 00:13:04,929 S12: Is both masculine and feminine and everything in between. God 258 00:13:05,370 --> 00:13:06,650 S12: is non-binary. 259 00:13:07,330 --> 00:13:11,170 S1: Okay, that's statement number one. Number two, his thoughts on transgenderism. 260 00:13:11,170 --> 00:13:12,050 S1: Have a listen. 261 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:15,050 S12: Before we go further, I want to acknowledge that our 262 00:13:15,050 --> 00:13:19,929 S12: trans community needs abortion care too. Defending trans Texans is 263 00:13:19,929 --> 00:13:22,890 S12: something we have to do every day at the state Capitol. 264 00:13:23,130 --> 00:13:25,570 S12: And you better believe I'll be giving sermons on that too. 265 00:13:26,730 --> 00:13:28,770 S12: So when I use the word woman, it should not 266 00:13:28,770 --> 00:13:31,530 S12: be understood as an exhaustive term, but rather as a 267 00:13:32,050 --> 00:13:37,689 S12: as a lens through which to understand, examine, and interrogate patriarchy. 268 00:13:38,809 --> 00:13:42,210 S1: Oh, boy. Okay. Number three Jesus needed to be taught 269 00:13:42,210 --> 00:13:44,600 S1: a lesson by a woman. He says. Have a listen. 270 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,599 S12: When a woman decides to do theology instead of doing housework, 271 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:55,400 S12: Jesus affirms her decision. Jesus honors her choice. In fact, 272 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,120 S12: the the only person to ever beat Jesus in a 273 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,440 S12: debate in the Bible was the syrophoenician woman. Think about that. 274 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,960 S12: The only person to teach Jesus something was a woman. 275 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,880 S12: Even the Son of God had something to learn from 276 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,080 S12: one of God's daughters. 277 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:14,679 S1: Wow. 278 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,440 S12: I'm withholding my comment to them again. 279 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,479 S1: Wow. I'm withholding my comments. Unbelievable. And here he references 280 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,320 S1: the book of Thomas. Have a listen. 281 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,520 S12: In the Gospel of Thomas, which was later omitted from 282 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:33,160 S12: the Bible by church officials. The Gospel of Thomas quotes 283 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,160 S12: Jesus as saying, when you make the male and female 284 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,720 S12: one and the same, when the male is not male, 285 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,880 S12: when the female is not female, Then you will enter 286 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,040 S12: the Kingdom of God. 287 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,320 S1: And that's probably why it wasn't included in the canonical gospels, 288 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,800 S1: among others. And last but certainly not least, Christianity, this 289 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,359 S1: individual says, is a feminist religion. 290 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:04,640 S12: Being Christian and being pro-choice are absolutely consistent because Christianity 291 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,960 S12: is a feminist religion. Our oldest scriptures, 3000 years old, 292 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:17,840 S12: reject embryonic personhood while affirming female personhood. In fact, modern 293 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,240 S12: mass Christian opposition to abortion is a relatively new phenomenon. 294 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:28,560 S12: The Southern Baptist Convention itself was pro-choice until the 1980s. 295 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:37,160 S12: Feminist womanist theologians are helping us remember Christianity's feminist tradition, 296 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,000 S12: a tradition that has been obscured and hidden by generations 297 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,440 S12: of men. Did they teach you in Sunday School that 298 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,840 S12: men and women are created equally in the book of Genesis? 299 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,040 S12: Did they teach you in Sunday school that the Bible 300 00:15:54,040 --> 00:16:00,480 S12: sometimes describes God as a female calling her Sophia? Did 301 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,600 S12: they teach you in Sunday School that Jesus Christ himself 302 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,000 S12: was a radical feminist? I don't claim to know what 303 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,880 S12: Jesus thought about abortion. He never mentions it either, which 304 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,600 S12: maybe that should tell us something right there. 305 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,640 S1: Well, that's a panoply of his thoughts. Now, again, it'd 306 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,600 S1: be bad enough if he were standing in a pulpit 307 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,640 S1: with the robes of religiosity and teaching, because he would 308 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,400 S1: be the quintessential wolf that Jesus refers to in the 309 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,760 S1: book of Matthew. But there's a lot of commentary and 310 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,480 S1: observation already since his winning his primary in his state 311 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,680 S1: this week, that this is going to be the conversation 312 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,760 S1: he's going to use out on the campaign trail on 313 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,760 S1: a regular basis, and he's going to do it with 314 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,360 S1: the hopes of trying to gather votes. Um, in fact, uh, 315 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,720 S1: he said this, he said, uh, most Texans understand that 316 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,800 S1: God is beyond gender. The apostle Paul says as much 317 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,000 S1: in his letter to the Galatians. If Republicans have an 318 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,720 S1: issue with that, they should take it up with the 319 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,320 S1: Apostle Paul. So if you're going to bring Galatians and 320 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,959 S1: Brother Paul into the political arena, then we're going to 321 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,640 S1: have a conversation about what Scripture has to say. And 322 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,439 S1: then I don't care who you vote for, that's between 323 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,600 S1: you and the Lord. But I care when somebody grotesquely 324 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,320 S1: misrepresents the Word of God. So, Craig, I hope you 325 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,000 S1: took a lot of notes because you got a lot 326 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,560 S1: to unpack there. And we're just a few days after 327 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,160 S1: that primary. It's going to be a long midterm session. 328 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,800 S1: We're going to take a break and be right back. 329 00:17:49,630 --> 00:17:52,629 S1: So this is part of our practicing applied Christianity, the 330 00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:54,870 S1: whole truth of the whole gospel to the whole world. 331 00:17:54,869 --> 00:17:59,270 S1: Understanding that what we read on Sunday doesn't get compartmentalized. 332 00:17:59,270 --> 00:18:01,550 S1: It affects everything how we see the world around us, 333 00:18:01,550 --> 00:18:05,670 S1: how we behave, how we mature spiritually. And I think 334 00:18:05,670 --> 00:18:07,990 S1: it's imperative when people are out there in the marketplace 335 00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:13,230 S1: of ideas and they're using Scripture, twisting Scripture purposely as 336 00:18:13,230 --> 00:18:16,350 S1: a way of trying to procure votes, it's obnoxious and 337 00:18:16,350 --> 00:18:20,310 S1: it's unconscionable. And in the end, I think it's imperative 338 00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:22,790 S1: for us as Christians always through a grace narrative, but 339 00:18:22,790 --> 00:18:25,310 S1: identifying it nonetheless to say, know what you're saying is 340 00:18:25,310 --> 00:18:29,030 S1: absolutely misrepresenting of what Scripture has to say. And so 341 00:18:29,030 --> 00:18:32,310 S1: this particular political candidate now is also a person who 342 00:18:32,350 --> 00:18:35,190 S1: went to seminary, got a master's degree, and you can 343 00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:37,270 S1: tell what kind of an education he got based on 344 00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:39,190 S1: what came out of his mouth, out of the overflow 345 00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:40,910 S1: of the heart, the mouth speaks. So you had all 346 00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:43,670 S1: of these iterations of what he said. You can pretty 347 00:18:43,670 --> 00:18:45,630 S1: much see where he's going to stand on political issues, 348 00:18:45,630 --> 00:18:48,230 S1: but he's going to try to justify them from this 349 00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:52,790 S1: grotesque misinterpretation of Scripture. So God is non-binary, his thoughts 350 00:18:52,790 --> 00:18:55,310 S1: and transgenderism. Jesus needed to be taught a lesson by 351 00:18:55,310 --> 00:18:57,470 S1: a woman. The Gospel of Thomas and Christianity is a 352 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,790 S1: feminist religion. Where, sir, would you like to start? 353 00:19:00,310 --> 00:19:05,390 S13: Let me let me start with what he's been apparently reading. Uh, 354 00:19:05,390 --> 00:19:09,149 S13: and it ain't it ain't Scripture. Um, the Gospel of 355 00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:12,790 S13: Thomas is an interesting starting point, because it all gets 356 00:19:12,790 --> 00:19:16,470 S13: back to rightly understanding and rightly dividing the word of truth, 357 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:19,470 S13: which is God's Word, which is the Bible, from cover 358 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:24,510 S13: to cover, Genesis to Revelation and nothing else. Um, by 359 00:19:24,510 --> 00:19:28,670 S13: the way, scholarship has debunked the Gospel of Thomas. It's 360 00:19:28,670 --> 00:19:32,950 S13: not a real gospel. It wasn't excised out. It wasn't 361 00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:37,629 S13: cut out of the the the scriptures. Uh, it was 362 00:19:37,630 --> 00:19:42,870 S13: not included because let me just share this by about 363 00:19:42,869 --> 00:19:46,910 S13: the mid part of the 300 AD, um, so that 364 00:19:46,910 --> 00:19:50,430 S13: you're talking more than 200 years after the original church 365 00:19:50,430 --> 00:19:54,869 S13: was founded, after Jesus's resurrection, and the apostles and the 366 00:19:54,869 --> 00:19:59,590 S13: apostles were gone, but they had, uh, deputized, uh, disciples 367 00:19:59,590 --> 00:20:04,030 S13: of theirs. The apostles did, who then deputized and taught 368 00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:08,230 S13: their disciples, otherwise known as the Church Fathers. One of them, 369 00:20:08,270 --> 00:20:14,270 S13: Cyril Cyril of Jerusalem, was about 348 A.D, as well 370 00:20:14,270 --> 00:20:17,350 S13: as Eusebius, and he was like 320. Both of them 371 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:22,510 S13: wrote warnings about the so-called Gospel of Thomas. In fact, 372 00:20:22,510 --> 00:20:25,750 S13: I think it was Eusebius who said, it smells pretty, 373 00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:29,150 S13: you know, and they use the label. It's a gospel, 374 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:33,510 S13: he said, but it's heresy, and it's going to be deceiving, uh, 375 00:20:33,550 --> 00:20:36,990 S13: innocent readers if they believe this is actually scripture. So 376 00:20:36,990 --> 00:20:39,389 S13: they were calling it out all the way back then, 377 00:20:39,390 --> 00:20:42,430 S13: by the way. Scholarship has said, look, and I'm talking 378 00:20:42,430 --> 00:20:45,950 S13: about both liberal and conservative. They all agree. They don't 379 00:20:45,950 --> 00:20:48,350 S13: know who really wrote it, but they do know it 380 00:20:48,350 --> 00:20:51,629 S13: borrowed a lot of stuff from the existing New Testament, 381 00:20:51,630 --> 00:20:55,310 S13: which was the Gospels were already in circulation for 150 382 00:20:55,310 --> 00:20:59,110 S13: years by that point. So whoever the author was, uh, 383 00:20:59,230 --> 00:21:04,270 S13: the counterfeiter took a few pieces of the existing actual 384 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:09,590 S13: gospels and then added a bunch of, like, Plato philosophy, um, 385 00:21:09,710 --> 00:21:14,149 S13: Greek philosophy into it and created basically his own picture 386 00:21:14,150 --> 00:21:16,430 S13: of who Jesus was and what he said. And so 387 00:21:16,430 --> 00:21:19,510 S13: it's heresy. Uh, and scholarship is basically proven that. 388 00:21:19,550 --> 00:21:22,270 S1: So his statement was it got taken out. It was 389 00:21:22,270 --> 00:21:23,030 S1: never put in. 390 00:21:23,070 --> 00:21:25,510 S13: It was. Yeah. Because it was it was false. It 391 00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:29,869 S13: was absolutely meritless. And it had been called out already 392 00:21:29,910 --> 00:21:32,830 S13: for more than 100 years as something that was a 393 00:21:32,830 --> 00:21:37,020 S13: fraudulent attempt to create a new vision of Jesus. Okay, 394 00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:39,619 S13: so forget that one. And by the way, if he 395 00:21:39,619 --> 00:21:42,020 S13: didn't do his homework on that, what else is he 396 00:21:42,060 --> 00:21:45,940 S13: going to not do his homework on? Well, let's, um, 397 00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:49,420 S13: let me talk about, um, uh, this one I thought 398 00:21:49,420 --> 00:21:53,180 S13: was really interesting. God is non-binary. Jesus kind of cleared 399 00:21:53,180 --> 00:21:54,900 S13: that up. As a matter of fact, in two chapters 400 00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:58,140 S13: in the Gospel of Matthew, uh, if you read chapter 401 00:21:58,140 --> 00:22:00,540 S13: 19 and then go read that and then go into 402 00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:06,700 S13: chapter 20, it all explains how fallacious, um, and empty 403 00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:11,300 S13: this idea of God being non-binary, which is a concept 404 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:16,580 S13: that the gender ideology of today is trying to co-opt 405 00:22:16,780 --> 00:22:20,700 S13: God as a political talking point so that people can 406 00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:23,659 S13: believe that it's really a Christian view that you can be, 407 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:27,540 S13: you know, gender fluid. Uh, Matthew 19, uh, excuse me, 408 00:22:27,820 --> 00:22:33,140 S13: Matthew 19 and Matthew 22. Matthew 19, uh, Jesus reminds 409 00:22:33,140 --> 00:22:37,980 S13: his listeners. Don't you know that in the beginning God 410 00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:43,220 S13: created them, man and woman? That's Matthew 19 four. So 411 00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:48,780 S13: that is the that's the, the the gender or I I'd, 412 00:22:48,780 --> 00:22:50,580 S13: I hate to use the word gender because that's a, that's. 413 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:51,380 S1: A social construct. 414 00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:52,460 S13: So let's talk about sex. 415 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:53,060 S1: Sex. Right. 416 00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:53,619 S13: Male and. 417 00:22:53,619 --> 00:22:54,620 S1: Female. Right. 418 00:22:54,740 --> 00:23:00,460 S13: Um, so he said the sex is to men and female. And, uh, 419 00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:04,859 S13: Jesus made that very clear in chapter 19. But then 420 00:23:04,859 --> 00:23:10,859 S13: in chapter 22, he talks about not what's true about 421 00:23:10,859 --> 00:23:17,260 S13: mankind in our earthly province. That's life on earth right now. 422 00:23:17,619 --> 00:23:22,180 S13: But then he talks about heaven in Matthew 22, the 423 00:23:22,180 --> 00:23:24,859 S13: coming kingdom. We're not there yet. By the way, ladies 424 00:23:24,859 --> 00:23:27,859 S13: and gentlemen, we're not living in the kingdom. Hasn't come yet. 425 00:23:27,859 --> 00:23:31,180 S13: But he said, when it does, there will be no 426 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:35,660 S13: sexual distinctions like we have them now. Now what? That 427 00:23:35,660 --> 00:23:38,780 S13: means we don't know. In fact, Paul said, we're not 428 00:23:38,780 --> 00:23:40,740 S13: going to have bodies like this, but we're going to 429 00:23:40,740 --> 00:23:43,940 S13: have bodies. So there's a lot we don't know. And 430 00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:47,220 S13: what God has not told us, God has not told 431 00:23:47,220 --> 00:23:48,340 S13: us for a reason. 432 00:23:48,340 --> 00:23:51,620 S1: So this politician believes that the Bible is compatible with 433 00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:55,859 S1: transgender ideology, but he fails to use God's preferred pronouns 434 00:23:55,859 --> 00:23:58,820 S1: because whether it's the father, the son, and the Holy Ghost, 435 00:23:58,820 --> 00:24:02,100 S1: it's always he. Yeah, for the record, God is spirit. 436 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:02,780 S1: He doesn't have if. 437 00:24:02,780 --> 00:24:05,940 S13: He's a seminarian. Did he ever read chapter 19 of 438 00:24:05,980 --> 00:24:10,180 S13: Matthew and chapter 22 and put him together? I don't 439 00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:10,700 S13: think so. 440 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:13,340 S1: No. Well, again, this is when you're using the scriptures 441 00:24:13,340 --> 00:24:15,500 S1: as a cudgel. You think that you're going to get 442 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,020 S1: people of faith to say, oh, well, he must know 443 00:24:18,020 --> 00:24:20,540 S1: he got a degree at a seminary. He must be 444 00:24:20,540 --> 00:24:23,500 S1: representing the truth of scriptures. Well, he chose not to 445 00:24:23,540 --> 00:24:27,380 S1: become a pastor. He chose to become a politician. But 446 00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:30,810 S1: he's dragging a bag full of biblical tricks as a 447 00:24:30,810 --> 00:24:32,970 S1: way of trying to get votes. Now we're not done. 448 00:24:33,010 --> 00:24:34,650 S1: He's got a lot of statements out there still yet 449 00:24:34,650 --> 00:24:36,930 S1: to be challenged. You got more to do, Craig. Okay. 450 00:24:36,970 --> 00:25:01,330 S1: You ready? We'll do it right after this. What's the 451 00:25:01,330 --> 00:25:03,330 S1: goal of in the market? I'll tell you. In the 452 00:25:03,330 --> 00:25:06,690 S1: market equips men and women to think critically and act biblically. 453 00:25:06,690 --> 00:25:08,250 S1: Why do we do this? So that we can be 454 00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:11,130 S1: confident when speaking the truth in a confused culture. Are 455 00:25:11,130 --> 00:25:13,650 S1: you willing to stand with me? Become a partial partner today, 456 00:25:13,650 --> 00:25:17,050 S1: and enjoy exclusive benefits only my partners receive while making 457 00:25:17,050 --> 00:25:21,090 S1: an impact for the Kingdom? Call eight 7758 or go 458 00:25:21,090 --> 00:25:26,609 S1: online to in the market with Janet Parshall. This is 459 00:25:26,609 --> 00:25:28,850 S1: in the market with Janet Partial. Craig partial is with 460 00:25:28,850 --> 00:25:31,090 S1: me and it's Friday. So we take a look at 461 00:25:31,090 --> 00:25:34,810 S1: stories making headlines, but we view them from a biblical perspective. 462 00:25:34,810 --> 00:25:38,850 S1: So again, this is this interesting intersection between politics and 463 00:25:38,850 --> 00:25:43,730 S1: religion and particularly politics and Christianity. We see this a lot. Um, 464 00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:46,850 S1: sometimes politicians will start quoting scripture if they think that 465 00:25:46,850 --> 00:25:49,369 S1: it might be effective in their campaigns. I get it, 466 00:25:49,650 --> 00:25:51,770 S1: you vote for whomever you want. That's between you and 467 00:25:51,770 --> 00:25:53,650 S1: the Lord. After you've prayed up and studied up, and 468 00:25:53,650 --> 00:25:55,490 S1: then you've decided that you're going to cast your vote 469 00:25:55,490 --> 00:25:58,770 S1: for whomever, it's a privilege, um, in this country, and 470 00:25:58,770 --> 00:26:01,450 S1: I certainly hope you take advantage of it, because elections 471 00:26:01,450 --> 00:26:06,170 S1: have outcomes and outcomes matter. So this particular individual had 472 00:26:06,170 --> 00:26:08,490 S1: served at the state level, now wants to sit in 473 00:26:08,490 --> 00:26:11,290 S1: the United States Senate, won his primary. But what's interesting 474 00:26:11,290 --> 00:26:14,690 S1: about this particular candidate is that, and I'm not interested 475 00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:17,690 S1: in naming him because it's immaterial. I'm examining what's coming 476 00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:19,770 S1: out of his mouth because out of the overflow of 477 00:26:19,770 --> 00:26:22,169 S1: the heart, the mouth speaks. This individual went on to 478 00:26:22,210 --> 00:26:25,690 S1: get a master's degree at a Presbyterian seminary, clearly a 479 00:26:25,690 --> 00:26:29,369 S1: very liberal Presbyterian Seminary, and I played some of the 480 00:26:29,369 --> 00:26:32,010 S1: clips that he said before. So he has a very 481 00:26:32,330 --> 00:26:35,770 S1: twisted and may I be so bold, heretical view of 482 00:26:35,770 --> 00:26:39,530 S1: Scripture making statements that cannot be substantiated biblically. And this 483 00:26:39,530 --> 00:26:42,090 S1: would be when he speaks as a seminarian, but he's 484 00:26:42,090 --> 00:26:43,970 S1: doing it as a politician. So you can see that 485 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:46,889 S1: the lines are blurred here. Um, we expose the deeds 486 00:26:46,890 --> 00:26:48,970 S1: of darkness. So he's made all kinds of statements that 487 00:26:48,970 --> 00:26:50,969 S1: are worthy of our review. So you've already thrown out 488 00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:53,209 S1: the Gospel of Thomas because it was thrown out of 489 00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:56,090 S1: the Gospels anyway, it wasn't included. He talked about God 490 00:26:56,130 --> 00:27:00,650 S1: being non-binary, except that God uses the personal pronouns. He 491 00:27:01,730 --> 00:27:03,690 S1: every time the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit 492 00:27:03,690 --> 00:27:06,130 S1: referred to in Scripture. And the whole argument is fallacious anyway, 493 00:27:06,130 --> 00:27:09,650 S1: because God is a spirit. Um, he looks for biblical 494 00:27:09,650 --> 00:27:14,649 S1: justification for trans, but cannot understand why the personal pronoun 495 00:27:14,690 --> 00:27:17,970 S1: he is used in the scriptures to describe to describe 496 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:20,370 S1: the father, the son, the Holy Ghost. Now he gets 497 00:27:20,369 --> 00:27:24,770 S1: to this business, this poor, uh, Phoenician woman. Craig. She just, uh. 498 00:27:24,770 --> 00:27:27,970 S1: It's interesting how many wolf audio clips have we played 499 00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:31,489 S1: where somebody is taking what happened with the story of 500 00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:35,530 S1: this woman and just absolutely adulterating the meaning can you 501 00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:37,610 S1: give us for people who haven't read it, give us 502 00:27:37,609 --> 00:27:40,010 S1: the Cliff's Notes of what's the story? Who is this 503 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:41,930 S1: woman and what was her interaction with Jesus? 504 00:27:41,930 --> 00:27:44,810 S13: First of all, not a Jew. She was a Canaanite. 505 00:27:45,290 --> 00:27:48,730 S13: He happened to be in Tyre and Sidon, uh, an 506 00:27:48,730 --> 00:27:54,490 S13: area where there were, uh, Canaanite people. Um, and, um, 507 00:27:55,050 --> 00:28:01,369 S13: she approached him and begged for Jesus to intercede on 508 00:28:01,410 --> 00:28:05,770 S13: her behalf, uh, to deliver her daughter, who had been 509 00:28:06,210 --> 00:28:12,129 S13: oppressed by a demon. So there was demon oppression happening 510 00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:17,609 S13: to her daughter. She pleaded at Jesus's feet, please, won't 511 00:28:17,609 --> 00:28:23,690 S13: you heal my daughter? Jesus uses a phrase in response, 512 00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:30,119 S13: and at first he didn't respond. Ultimately, he says and 513 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,800 S13: shares this phrase that was often used in the Jewish 514 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,120 S13: culture toward non-Jews. And in other words, Gentiles like Canaanites. 515 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,160 S13: Remember the history of the Canaanites in the Old Testament? Okay. 516 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,320 S13: And that is, they're not their dogs. They're not the 517 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,240 S13: God's chosen people. They are on the equivalent of dogs. 518 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:57,000 S13: And so he says, well, haven't you heard that? Um, uh, 519 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,840 S13: the it's it's the people at the table who are 520 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:08,680 S13: fed first. And the, the dogs are not referring to, well, 521 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,960 S13: referring to Gentiles. 522 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,000 S1: Right. Jews and Gentiles. 523 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,440 S13: Which he was. Now, it's interesting that he knew this. 524 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,000 S13: The text as you read it. I don't see that 525 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 S13: she identified herself that way. She didn't come in and say, 526 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,760 S13: I know I'm not a part of the Jewish club here, 527 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,880 S13: but I need your help. Please. But three times she 528 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,360 S13: calls him Lord. Yes, yes. And. And a fourth time 529 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,320 S13: she calls him master. And she says I'm you. I 530 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,880 S13: know that I'm considered a dog by the culture, but 531 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,640 S13: even dogs get the scraps under the table. Please, master, 532 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,160 S13: help my daughter. And then Jesus. Basically. And I think 533 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,280 S13: this was a teaching lesson not just for her, but 534 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,960 S13: for the disciples who were with him at the time. 535 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:02,840 S13: And that is grace provided by God through faith can 536 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,800 S13: work miracles. It's the basis of redemption. According to the 537 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,959 S13: Apostle Paul, God provides grace through sending his Son to 538 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,880 S13: die for us. And if you believe by faith, you 539 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,680 S13: can be redeemed. You can be saved. So in this, 540 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,920 S13: this is a perfect picture of grace overcoming the law, 541 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,400 S13: which is, look, we're not going to deal with Gentiles. 542 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,720 S1: I'm also seeing an echoing of the mustard seed parable here, 543 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,040 S1: because the crumbs, it's not the meals. She doesn't get 544 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,080 S1: the full meal, the crumbs. She's saying any part of this, 545 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,160 S1: if you'll give me, I will be grateful for and 546 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,760 S1: it will be enough for me. 547 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,040 S13: And he but he. But based on that her faith. 548 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,920 S13: And by the way, this is one of two times 549 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,920 S13: in Scripture where Jesus talks about the great faith of 550 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,560 S13: a Gentile once the centurion who's a Roman and a Gentile, 551 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,440 S13: and now this Canaanite woman who's also a Gentile of 552 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,960 S13: great faith. And he praises her in front of those 553 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,000 S13: disciples who are supposedly seeing this and learning. 554 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,560 S1: Yes. 555 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,160 S13: In the in the Great Commission, which I haven't announced 556 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760 S13: to you yet, you're going to be taking it to 557 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,280 S13: the whole world, including Gentiles. 558 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,920 S1: Can I use a popular saying? Jesus reads the room always, 559 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,960 S1: doesn't he? So the lesson was going to be bigger. 560 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,840 S13: Perfectly, by the way. 561 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600 S1: Exactly. So why is it that liberals not just this, Wolf? 562 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,160 S1: But why is it that liberals in general always refer 563 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,720 S1: to this as some sort of power shift between Jesus 564 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,240 S1: and the woman that she is. Quote, teaching Jesus a lesson. 565 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,840 S13: She's schooling him, supposedly. 566 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,320 S1: And I extrapolate that for me. I can't find that 567 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:31,760 S1: in there. 568 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,720 S13: No, it's not there. What Jesus is doing is he's 569 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,719 S13: schooling the disciples and he's healing that woman's daughter all 570 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,880 S13: in 1 in 1 lesson. He has a compound number 571 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,200 S13: of miraculous things that he's doing, which is so the 572 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,960 S13: essence of Jesus's ministry and teaching. If you look deeply 573 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,320 S13: into what he says and what he does it, you 574 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,240 S13: can see a multiplicity just from a human standpoint of 575 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,080 S13: divine things that are happening. And when we get to 576 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,400 S13: see him face to face, we're going to learn that 577 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,000 S13: there are millions of outcomes that we have no idea. 578 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,120 S13: But he chooses his words carefully, and everything is a 579 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,800 S13: teaching lesson. For who? For the disciples who must carry 580 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,750 S13: that message once the Holy Spirit comes and they are 581 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:23,310 S13: then commissioned to take the good news to the rest 582 00:32:23,310 --> 00:32:23,750 S13: of the world. 583 00:32:23,790 --> 00:32:27,270 S1: Well, and I think also and and this is I said, Jesus, 584 00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:29,390 S1: I'm putting this in there. This is just a feeling. 585 00:32:29,390 --> 00:32:31,990 S1: I don't know if you can extrapolate this out through exegesis, 586 00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:35,550 S1: but isn't Jesus? And I loved your astute observation that 587 00:32:35,550 --> 00:32:37,630 S1: this is preparation for the Great Commission, which they don't 588 00:32:37,630 --> 00:32:39,350 S1: know yet is going to happen. So what he's saying 589 00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:41,310 S1: is you're going to get to the point, gentlemen, where 590 00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:43,150 S1: you're going to understand that what I've done and my 591 00:32:43,150 --> 00:32:46,070 S1: message is not just to the Jews, it comes to 592 00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:48,469 S1: the Jews first. That's right. But then it's to everyone else. 593 00:32:48,510 --> 00:32:50,910 S13: Yeah. And then Peter had to learn that lesson. 594 00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:52,030 S1: Yep. Painfully. 595 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:54,870 S13: Yeah, exactly. So, uh, it was a lesson that the 596 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:57,510 S13: early church had to learn and had to practice. 597 00:32:57,510 --> 00:33:00,750 S1: But wasn't it also a wonderful teaching moment for the 598 00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:02,950 S1: disciples to understand that this woman is saying, all I 599 00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:04,910 S1: need is a crumb of what you can give me, 600 00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:07,830 S1: and I know that my that that what you do 601 00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:09,950 S1: I have faith in even my faith is no bigger 602 00:33:09,950 --> 00:33:11,310 S1: than a crumb. And so what? 603 00:33:11,310 --> 00:33:12,510 S13: You give me one crumb. 604 00:33:12,550 --> 00:33:13,430 S1: And it'll be done. 605 00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:16,070 S13: Lord Jesus. And I know that it'll be done. 606 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:18,950 S1: Which is a fabulous message, because I think what might 607 00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:20,990 S1: have been happening at that moment, too is as they 608 00:33:20,990 --> 00:33:24,230 S1: were peering in, watching this interaction again, woman and Jesus, 609 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:26,470 S1: that would catch your attention right out of the gate. Right? 610 00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:28,670 S13: And how dare you! How very dare you! 611 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:30,950 S1: And a Canaanite woman, and Jesus, you have a Jew 612 00:33:31,070 --> 00:33:33,510 S1: and Gentile having this dialogue back and forth. So that 613 00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:36,190 S1: also catches your attention. Jesus is already tearing down all 614 00:33:36,190 --> 00:33:40,270 S1: kinds of boundaries. But wasn't it wonderful that and here's my, my, my. 615 00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:42,430 S1: And it's not in scripture, but just my feeling in 616 00:33:42,430 --> 00:33:44,910 S1: reading this because it's about real people. It's not just 617 00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:47,310 S1: black ink and white paper. How many of them had 618 00:33:47,310 --> 00:33:51,350 S1: their hearts softened toward the Gentile by watching this woman plea, 619 00:33:51,550 --> 00:33:53,990 S1: by seeing the strength of her faith, even if it 620 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:56,630 S1: was only the size of a breadcrumb, that Jesus was 621 00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:59,030 S1: all she needed to see that healing in her life. 622 00:33:59,790 --> 00:34:01,510 S1: How can you keep that? It's Peter and John. We 623 00:34:01,510 --> 00:34:04,030 S1: can't keep this stuff to ourselves, right? You've seen that. 624 00:34:04,030 --> 00:34:07,430 S1: You saw this woman's response. Doesn't that teach you something? Doesn't. 625 00:34:07,790 --> 00:34:10,310 S1: Could God not possibly have been softening the hearts of 626 00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:13,270 S1: the disciples to say they're lost? They're Gentiles, they're a 627 00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:15,470 S1: different tribe, I get it. I want you to love them. 628 00:34:15,469 --> 00:34:17,989 S1: Because when I hang on that cross, I loved him 629 00:34:17,989 --> 00:34:19,150 S1: enough to die for them. 630 00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:24,350 S13: Peter had Peter's ministry started in Jerusalem. To the existing 631 00:34:24,350 --> 00:34:28,190 S13: Jews who only knew the Old Testament, not the New 632 00:34:28,190 --> 00:34:31,549 S13: Covenant through Christ, except for the disciples, the ministry of 633 00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:35,629 S13: Paul was to the Gentiles and the church. It took 634 00:34:35,630 --> 00:34:37,989 S13: a while for the church, and we mentioned the fact 635 00:34:37,989 --> 00:34:41,590 S13: that Paul or Peter had to get a vision on 636 00:34:41,590 --> 00:34:46,150 S13: top of a roof, um, to understand that. And he 637 00:34:46,150 --> 00:34:49,070 S13: still didn't get it perfectly, because there's an incident mentioned 638 00:34:49,070 --> 00:34:53,670 S13: in Galatians where Paul had to sort of confront Peter about, hey, 639 00:34:54,030 --> 00:34:58,230 S13: you're you're choosing sides the wrong way here. The Gentiles 640 00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:01,989 S13: are just as saved as the Jewish converts to Christ 641 00:35:02,270 --> 00:35:05,070 S13: and don't need to become Jews to become a Christian. 642 00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:07,150 S13: So all of that had to be worked out in 643 00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:11,630 S13: the early church. But, um, it's interesting about the crumb analogy. 644 00:35:11,630 --> 00:35:14,230 S13: I'll take the crumbs. Jesus, that once you give me 645 00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:18,430 S13: a crumb, it'll be done. Just think of the feeding 646 00:35:18,430 --> 00:35:21,390 S13: of the 4000 and the 5000. Well, we only have 647 00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:24,190 S13: a couple fish. We only have a couple loaves of bread. 648 00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:26,230 S13: Look at all the thousands of people. It's enough. It 649 00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:29,350 S13: doesn't take a lot. God can take a little bit 650 00:35:29,350 --> 00:35:31,310 S13: of faith and he can do miracles with it. 651 00:35:31,350 --> 00:35:35,270 S1: Absolutely. So the last one, that Christianity is a feminist religion. 652 00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:37,790 S1: And the only way and I've tortuously tried to figure 653 00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:39,469 S1: this out. The only way I can say that this 654 00:35:39,469 --> 00:35:43,270 S1: has one thimbleful of truth in it is that it's liberating. 655 00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:45,710 S1: And if the feminists are about liberating themselves from the 656 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:48,830 S1: shackles of men, I don't buy that at all. But 657 00:35:48,830 --> 00:35:52,310 S1: it's liberating, because in Christ Jesus there's neither Jew nor Gentile, 658 00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:54,750 S1: male nor female. And we just talked about the fact 659 00:35:54,750 --> 00:35:57,390 S1: that he was breaking that gender divide by talking to 660 00:35:57,430 --> 00:36:00,430 S1: this Canaanite woman. Um, and when he speaks to the 661 00:36:00,430 --> 00:36:02,469 S1: woman at the. Well, there's another example of that. And 662 00:36:02,469 --> 00:36:04,790 S1: when he acknowledges women and the role that they play 663 00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:08,029 S1: in ministry. I mean, if he means liberating, then I 664 00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:09,910 S1: get that. But I have a feeling his take on 665 00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:11,430 S1: it is a different kind of feminism. 666 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:15,500 S13: I think the bottom line is that the ground is 667 00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:18,140 S13: level at the cross at the foot of the cross. 668 00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:23,540 S13: Men and women, Jews and Gentiles all have the same 669 00:36:23,540 --> 00:36:28,020 S13: narrow gate. For redemption. And it's called Jesus Christ and 670 00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:31,900 S13: His shed blood and faith. Because of God's grace. 671 00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:34,459 S1: You know, the advantage to taking a look at this 672 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:36,500 S1: wolf audio is it makes us have to get into 673 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:39,060 S1: the word. And that's I think these are fruitful conversations, 674 00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:42,100 S1: because when all else fails, read the instructions. Here's what 675 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,739 S1: this individual says. Here's what the Word of God says. 676 00:36:44,780 --> 00:37:08,100 S1: Where's the straight line of truth? We'll be back after this. Well, 677 00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,100 S1: there's always something to talk about in the tech world, 678 00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,940 S1: so here's a tech story for you. Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 679 00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:18,660 S1: otherwise known as MIT, hooked people up to brain scanners 680 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:23,020 S1: when they were using ChatGPT, and what they found should 681 00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:30,540 S1: concern every single one of us. ChatGPT users showed 55% 682 00:37:30,580 --> 00:37:33,979 S1: weaker brain connectivity than people who didn't use it. Not 683 00:37:33,980 --> 00:37:38,259 S1: after years, after just four months. Now here's how they 684 00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:40,299 S1: did the testing. They were 54 people. They split them 685 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:43,700 S1: into three groups. One used ChatGPT to write essays, one 686 00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,940 S1: used Google, and one used nothing but their own brain. 687 00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:50,180 S1: They wore EEG monitors that tracked their brain activity in 688 00:37:50,180 --> 00:37:54,779 S1: real time across four sessions over four months. The brain 689 00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:59,660 S1: only group built the strongest, most widespread neural networks. Google 690 00:37:59,660 --> 00:38:03,940 S1: users were in the middle. ChatGPT users had the weakest 691 00:38:03,940 --> 00:38:07,660 S1: brains in the room every time, and then they did 692 00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:10,259 S1: a memory test. Participants were asked to recall what they'd 693 00:38:10,260 --> 00:38:14,580 S1: just written minutes earlier 83% of ChatGPT users couldn't quote 694 00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:18,340 S1: a single line from their own essay. They wrote it, 695 00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:20,940 S1: they couldn't remember it. The words passed through them like 696 00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:22,500 S1: they were never there. And then it gets worse in 697 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,980 S1: the final session. ChatGPT users were told to write without AI. 698 00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:30,260 S1: Their brains were measurably weaker than people who never used 699 00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:34,660 S1: AI at all. 78% couldn't recall their own writing. The 700 00:38:34,660 --> 00:38:37,820 S1: damage didn't go away when the tool was removed even. Meanwhile, 701 00:38:37,820 --> 00:38:41,020 S1: the brain only users who tried ChatGPT for the first 702 00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:44,060 S1: time well, their brains lit up. They wrote prompt better. 703 00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:47,420 S1: They wrote better prompts. They retained more. Their brains were 704 00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:49,780 S1: already strong enough to use AI as a tool instead 705 00:38:49,780 --> 00:38:53,340 S1: of a crutch. And the researchers also found that ChatGPT 706 00:38:53,420 --> 00:38:57,300 S1: essay on the same topic looked almost identical. More facts, 707 00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:01,940 S1: more dates, more names, but less original thinking. Everyone using 708 00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:05,780 S1: ChatGPT produced the same generic output while believing it was 709 00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:11,299 S1: their own. MIT gave this a name cognitive debt like 710 00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:14,980 S1: financial debt. You borrow convenience now, and you pay with 711 00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:18,620 S1: your thinking ability later. Except there's no way to pay 712 00:39:18,620 --> 00:39:22,940 S1: it back. So the question isn't whether ChatGPT is useful, 713 00:39:22,940 --> 00:39:27,259 S1: it's whether the price is your ability to think without it. 714 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:30,060 S1: That's why we have so many conversations on this program 715 00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:32,859 S1: about AI. And now you got it from a bunch 716 00:39:32,860 --> 00:39:35,940 S1: of techies at MIT saying it makes your brain rot. Craig, 717 00:39:36,140 --> 00:39:38,260 S1: tell me about lawyers and ChatGPT. 718 00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:43,060 S13: Yeah. Uh, this case is just one of many hallucinations 719 00:39:43,060 --> 00:39:46,780 S13: that artificial intelligence, that is to say, making up stuff 720 00:39:46,940 --> 00:39:52,660 S13: that sounds credible. And really, that's what artificial intelligence does, 721 00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:56,100 S13: is they don't think for you when you send them 722 00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:59,380 S13: some kind of a query. What they do is they 723 00:39:59,420 --> 00:40:04,379 S13: use language that has been inputted to them on certain topics. 724 00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:07,660 S13: And that sounds like it ought to be real, like 725 00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:13,130 S13: it really ought to fit. But the ChatGPT system doesn't 726 00:40:13,130 --> 00:40:18,090 S13: think it simply organizes information that looks good to you 727 00:40:18,530 --> 00:40:22,529 S13: and fits with the billions of bytes of information that 728 00:40:22,530 --> 00:40:25,930 S13: have been fed to it. So here we have a 729 00:40:25,969 --> 00:40:30,850 S13: woman who had an injury at work. Now in every state, 730 00:40:30,850 --> 00:40:33,890 S13: and this happens to be in Illinois, every state has 731 00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:39,089 S13: worker's compensation where you can collect, um, a certain amount 732 00:40:39,090 --> 00:40:43,570 S13: of money for an injury at work. And she filed 733 00:40:43,570 --> 00:40:48,450 S13: a claim, uh, through a legitimate lawyer, uh, about her disability. 734 00:40:48,969 --> 00:40:56,130 S13: And it ended up being hotly disputed. However, um, it 735 00:40:56,130 --> 00:40:58,890 S13: ended up not in a trial, but in a settlement. 736 00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:01,650 S13: And that's where the vast majority of these kind of 737 00:41:01,650 --> 00:41:04,770 S13: claims end up. They don't go to a full blown, 738 00:41:05,010 --> 00:41:08,730 S13: blown trial or hearing. They get settled. So that's what happened. 739 00:41:09,370 --> 00:41:14,770 S13: But then later, dissatisfied apparently with the settlement, she went 740 00:41:14,770 --> 00:41:19,930 S13: to her new lawyer called ChatGPT, which is not a lawyer, 741 00:41:20,130 --> 00:41:27,330 S13: but a computer system and artificial intelligence, um, program. And 742 00:41:27,330 --> 00:41:32,609 S13: she said, um, can I reopen this case? Um, even 743 00:41:32,650 --> 00:41:36,129 S13: though I sign papers in a settlement? And by the way, 744 00:41:36,130 --> 00:41:39,770 S13: when you settle a case, it says, that's it. Finis. 745 00:41:40,090 --> 00:41:43,009 S13: You can no longer come back on this same claim 746 00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:47,970 S13: once again. Forever. Amen. Selah. Right. So she signed those 747 00:41:48,370 --> 00:41:51,770 S13: papers in any legal settlement. Can't go back and redo 748 00:41:51,810 --> 00:41:55,250 S13: the thing. Uh, but she wants to redo it, and. Hey, AI, 749 00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:57,489 S13: tell me, can I really redo this thing, or am 750 00:41:57,489 --> 00:42:02,770 S13: I really barred? And the AI response is, hey, no problem. 751 00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:06,529 S13: I'll give you the law. You can use. So the 752 00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:11,850 S13: system gives her some information and some supposed cases. She 753 00:42:11,890 --> 00:42:16,089 S13: then files a lawsuit based on that pro se, which 754 00:42:16,090 --> 00:42:18,489 S13: means without a lawyer, because after all, now she's got 755 00:42:18,489 --> 00:42:22,130 S13: a computer system that's smarter than her lawyer and she 756 00:42:22,130 --> 00:42:26,489 S13: goes into court. The problem with the lawsuit is the 757 00:42:26,489 --> 00:42:33,009 S13: cases that she cites from ChatGPT don't exist. They were 758 00:42:33,010 --> 00:42:37,370 S13: hallucinated by the AI system, and it cost the insurance 759 00:42:37,370 --> 00:42:43,490 S13: company defending this thing about $300,000 in attorney's fees to 760 00:42:43,530 --> 00:42:49,530 S13: fight this bogus claim based on a bogus hallucinatory piece 761 00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:54,370 S13: of so-called, quote, legal advice from an artificial intelligence system 762 00:42:54,410 --> 00:43:00,370 S13: of ChatGPT. So be very, very aware of the fact 763 00:43:00,370 --> 00:43:04,410 S13: that this goes on and that you cannot trust a 764 00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:08,210 S13: an answer to a query from an AI system you 765 00:43:08,250 --> 00:43:12,610 S13: need to do your own homework. Takes a lot of time, 766 00:43:12,650 --> 00:43:16,730 S13: takes more effort, but convenience can really. The love of 767 00:43:16,730 --> 00:43:19,610 S13: convenience can really lead you down a bad path. 768 00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:22,810 S1: Well, and I think this is this is the cautionary tale, 769 00:43:22,810 --> 00:43:26,529 S1: which is when this new shiny thing shows up and and, 770 00:43:26,570 --> 00:43:29,250 S1: you know, I used to say that technology is value neutral, 771 00:43:29,250 --> 00:43:31,089 S1: but I've talked to enough experts now in the field 772 00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:34,770 S1: that this particular technology is not. It's insidious in some ways, 773 00:43:34,770 --> 00:43:38,009 S1: and it has an agenda. And convenience is always the 774 00:43:38,010 --> 00:43:41,090 S1: first bright, shiny aspect, right? You get you fall in 775 00:43:41,090 --> 00:43:43,810 S1: love with the bright shiny thing. You get it embedded 776 00:43:43,810 --> 00:43:45,689 S1: in your life. And before you know it, you've just 777 00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:48,810 S1: turned everything over for the sake of convenience. Well, that's 778 00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:50,730 S1: just something to me. I think this is a fascinating 779 00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:53,529 S1: conversation because it says something about the human nation, the 780 00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:56,890 S1: human condition. We're lazy. We don't want to be bothered. 781 00:43:56,890 --> 00:44:00,049 S1: We if we'd rather coast, rather somebody let's do our 782 00:44:00,489 --> 00:44:03,169 S1: let someone else do our homework. So if you're told 783 00:44:03,170 --> 00:44:06,120 S1: to write a paper or a sermon or a legal brief, 784 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,320 S1: or fill in the blank and you go, Abracadabra, ones 785 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,960 S1: and zeros. Now you write it for me. What you're 786 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,560 S1: doing is, number one, you might be producing phony information, 787 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,040 S1: as in this poor woman's case where the made up 788 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,200 S1: law didn't exist, or going to the MIT study. You 789 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,800 S1: get the convenience, but you get the brain rot as well. 790 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,640 S13: You know, the head. The former head of Google, the 791 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,319 S13: CEO of Google, was asked to write an essay years ago, 792 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,040 S13: a number of years ago. What's the American idea? And 793 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,880 S13: he said, the great idea of America is the new, 794 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,640 S13: new thing. Well, I got my feeling is the best 795 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,520 S13: thing is being a new creature in Christ. You'll find 796 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,440 S13: that in the Word of God, not in a GPT 797 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,840 S13: bit of hallucination. 798 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,520 S1: Wow. Great point, Craig. Don't forget. Move those clocks forward 799 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,840 S1: when you go to bed tomorrow night. Have a great weekend. 800 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,920 S1: Thanks for joining us, and we'll see you next time 801 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,960 S1: on In the Market with Janet Parshall.