WEBVTT - It Is Finished

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<v S1>Today's version of Faith and Finance Live is pre-recorded, so

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<v S1>our phone lines are not open for, you know, the

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<v S1>grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich,

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<v S1>yet for your sake he became poor, so that you

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<v S1>by his poverty might become rich. Second Corinthians eight nine. Hi,

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<v S1>I'm Rob West. That's an encouraging truth for what is

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<v S1>often felt as a somber day. It's Good Friday, the

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<v S1>day we set aside to reflect on the crucifixion of

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<v S1>Christ and what truly happened on that cross over 2000

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<v S1>years ago. Today we'll talk about the greatest act of

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<v S1>grace in human history. Then we have some great questions

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<v S1>lined up for you. But don't call in today because

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<v S1>we're pre-recorded. This is faith and finance. Live biblical wisdom

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<v S1>for your financial journey. For centuries, Christians have called this

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<v S1>day Good Friday, and it is good, but not because

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<v S1>the events were easy or lighthearted. It's good because of

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<v S1>what Christ accomplished for us. For many believers, this day

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<v S1>carries a mix of emotions. There's the sorrow of remembering

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<v S1>the suffering Jesus endured, and the weight of knowing it

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<v S1>was our sin that led him there. And yet, there's

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<v S1>also overwhelming gratitude for the love of the father who

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<v S1>gave his son, and for the son who willingly laid

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<v S1>down his life. It's a day to reflect on the

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<v S1>reality that Jesus bore the full weight of our sins

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<v S1>on the cross, suffering in our place so that we

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<v S1>could be reconciled to God. That's the wonder of the cross.

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<v S1>But along with sorrow and gratitude, there's also anticipation. Because

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<v S1>we know what Sunday brings the resurrection of Jesus and

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<v S1>the promise of eternal life with him. Good Friday is

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<v S1>not the end of the story. It's the turning point.

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<v S1>And that's why we call it good. Now, here on

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<v S1>faith and finance, we often talk about money, how to

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<v S1>steward it well and use it for God's glory. But

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<v S1>the Bible also uses financial imagery to To describe spiritual realities.

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<v S1>In fact, Scripture is full of words like debt, ransom, redemption,

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<v S1>and inheritance because those terms helped people understand the profound

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<v S1>truths of the gospel in everyday language. Take Romans 623,

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<v S1>for example. For the wages of sin is death, but

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<v S1>the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ

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<v S1>Jesus our Lord. Or Mark 1045 where Jesus says, for

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<v S1>even the Son of Man did not come to be served,

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<v S1>but to serve, and to give his life as a

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<v S1>ransom for many. And First Corinthians 620 reminds us, you

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<v S1>are bought with a price, so glorify God in your body.

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<v S1>These verses speak of something far deeper than finances. They

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<v S1>describe the cost of sin and the beauty of God's grace.

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<v S1>Our sin didn't just lead to guilt. It separated us

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<v S1>from the very presence of God, cutting us off from

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<v S1>the one who is the source of life and love.

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<v S1>Left to ourselves, we had no way to bridge that gap.

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<v S1>But Jesus came to restore what was broken. As Jesus

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<v S1>breathed his last on the cross, the Gospel of John

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<v S1>records him saying, it is finished. In the original Greek,

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<v S1>the word is tetelestai. In ancient times, this saying was

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<v S1>packed with meaning. It was spoken by servants who had

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<v S1>completed their assigned tasks. It was declared by artists when

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<v S1>a masterpiece was complete. It was proclaimed by priests after

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<v S1>inspecting a spotless lamb for sacrifice, and most significantly, it

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<v S1>was written on receipts to indicate that a debt had

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<v S1>been fully paid. No remaining balance, nothing left owed. So

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<v S1>when Jesus declared it is finished from the cross, he

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<v S1>wasn't simply marking the end of his earthly life. He

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<v S1>was proclaiming the completion of his mission. The work of

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<v S1>salvation was done. The debt of sin was cancelled. The

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<v S1>great chasm between God and humanity was bridged not by

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<v S1>our effort, but by his sacrifice. And here's the beauty

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<v S1>of Jesus final words. They remind us that we don't

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<v S1>live in a state of spiritual deficit. We live in

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<v S1>the overflow of grace. Jesus didn't make a down payment

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<v S1>on our salvation. He paid it in full. There is

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<v S1>nothing left for us to earn or achieve. No good

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<v S1>work can add to what he has finished. We simply

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<v S1>receive it by faith and live in the freedom it brings.

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<v S1>So on this Good Friday, as we reflect on the cross,

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<v S1>we're invited to hear those final words of Jesus tetelestai

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<v S1>with awe and gratitude. It is finished. The debt of

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<v S1>sin has been paid in full completely forever. Nothing remains

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<v S1>for us to earn, prove or repay. And that changes everything.

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<v S1>We are free. Free from guilt, free from striving. Free

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<v S1>to live for the one who gave everything for us.

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<v S1>Obedience is no longer a duty to earn favor, but

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<v S1>a joyful response to his grace. In light of the

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<v S1>finished work of Christ, we now live to follow him,

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<v S1>not to gain life, but because in him we've already

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<v S1>found it. All right, we're going to head to a break,

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<v S1>so don't go anywhere. Still a lot more to come,

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<v S1>even though we're away from the studio today and you

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<v S1>shouldn't call in. We have some great questions that you're

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<v S1>really going to enjoy as we continue to apply God's

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<v S1>wisdom to your financial decisions. We'll be right back. Great

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<v S1>to have you with us today on faith and finance live.

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<v S1>All right. Let's get to our calls today that we've

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<v S1>lined up for you. Let's go to Arkansas. Hi, Dennis.

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<v S1>Go ahead.

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<v S2>Uh, yes. Uh, can you recommend a burial insurance of

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<v S2>any kind?

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<v S1>Uh, yeah. You know, I don't recommend specific companies on that,

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<v S1>but I will say just kind of generally this final

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<v S1>expense insurance, you know, is essentially a small life insurance

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<v S1>policy for a specific purpose, and that is funeral and

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<v S1>related costs. The benefits of them are, you know, you're

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<v S1>going to have affordable premiums. They have what is called

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<v S1>guaranteed acceptance. So they generally don't require a medical exam, uh,

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<v S1>you know, a quick payout, it'll cover the funeral expenses

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<v S1>and you have a set premium. The problem with them is, though,

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<v S1>that they have a higher cost per coverage. So compared

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<v S1>to traditional life insurance options. Burial insurance is, you know,

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<v S1>a higher cost per thousand dollars of coverage and it's

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<v S1>limited coverage. It only goes generally up to 50,000. Um,

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<v S1>and so you could, if you live a long time,

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<v S1>pay more in premiums than the policies payout amount. And

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<v S1>then some have a two year waiting period before the

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<v S1>full benefits are even paid. So if you passed away

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<v S1>in those, you know, two years, God forbid, um, your

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<v S1>beneficiaries might not receive the full amount. So another option

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<v S1>would be, you know, just to save and invest, take

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<v S1>that same money and put it into an investment. Um,

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<v S1>you could just use traditional term life insurance while you're

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<v S1>building your assets, because what the likely scenario is that

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<v S1>there'd be plenty there. You know, once you're through your

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<v S1>working years that you could even designate to a, to

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<v S1>a beneficiary, um, so that money is readily available. Uh,

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<v S1>and so you'd just be covering your working years so

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<v S1>that if something happened, you know, you could get more coverage. Um,

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<v S1>you know, with higher coverage amounts and a lower cost

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<v S1>through just traditional life insurance. So I think, you know,

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<v S1>these are the the options that you have. But if

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<v S1>you are wanting to go with a burial policy, then

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<v S1>I think, you know, you need to, uh, you know,

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<v S1>get an insurance agent who can help you find the

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<v S1>very best one. Unfortunately, I wouldn't have a specific company

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<v S1>to recommend.

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<v S2>Yeah. All right. Well, I appreciate you all. And this

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<v S2>is my first time calling.

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<v S1>Well, I'm so glad, and I appreciate you listening. Uh,

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<v S1>God bless you. Call anytime, sir. We appreciate you being

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<v S1>on the program today. Uh, before we head back to

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<v S1>the phones in the news, home buyers are putting down

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<v S1>more money at the closing table these days. That's right.

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<v S1>The typical buyers down payment is now 16.3% of the

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<v S1>home's price. That's up from 15% a year ago. At

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<v S1>the same time, a 31% of home buyers are paying

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<v S1>all cash for a new home, down from 34% a

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<v S1>year ago. All of this from, uh, an analyst by

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<v S1>Redfin of county records in the 40 most populous metropolitan areas. Uh,

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<v S1>the typical home buyer is now putting down about $63,000,

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<v S1>which is 4000 more than last year. Analysts say this

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<v S1>is largely because home prices have risen about 6% in

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<v S1>the past year, and that's on top of all the

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<v S1>increases we had in the years prior. Uh, also, the

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<v S1>larger down payment statistic includes buyers who are using equity

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<v S1>from the previous sale of a home. It's not limited

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<v S1>to first time home buyers who had to save up, uh,

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<v S1>a down payment from scratch. And obviously, with the rising

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<v S1>home prices, if you had an existing home that you sold,

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<v S1>you're pulling out more equity, uh, from those properties, which

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<v S1>is allowing you then to roll that in in the

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<v S1>form of a higher down payment. Bottom line, it's still

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<v S1>a challenge to buy a home these days. Home affordability

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<v S1>is difficult. Uh, But you will not regret saving as

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<v S1>much as you can before doing it. That will help

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<v S1>to lower the amount you have to borrow, and that

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<v S1>will save you thousands of dollars in interest over the years,

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<v S1>you know. Keep in mind among the three budget busters

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<v S1>is food and transportation and yes, housing. So just be careful.

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<v S1>Don't stretch to buy a house you really can't afford,

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<v S1>because that is going to just really hinder your ability

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<v S1>to accomplish your other financial goals, as you have too

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<v S1>much going on in the housing category. What is that number?

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<v S1>I would say certainly no more than 30% of your

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<v S1>take home pay to principal interest, taxes and insurance. I'd

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<v S1>prefer that to be at 25%. I know that's challenging,

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<v S1>but that would really be the key because then you'd

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<v S1>have enough left for everything else. The other piece I

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<v S1>would say is make sure you have at least a 20%

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<v S1>down payment. As I said here, the the typical buyer

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<v S1>right now is putting down 16.3%, which means they have

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<v S1>private mortgage insurance. That doesn't help you. That's for the lender.

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<v S1>It's just an extra unnecessary expense. About 1% of the mortgage. Um,

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<v S1>and so, you know, try to avoid that by getting

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<v S1>that 20% down. That's going to avoid you paying unnecessary interest.

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<v S1>Keep your payment more manageable. And if that means you

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<v S1>need to delay that purchase for a season, I'd just

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<v S1>say do it and uh, and save, save, save. All right.

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<v S1>I hope that's helpful. Let's head back to the phones. Uh,

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<v S1>to Mississippi. Hi, Mike. Go ahead.

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<v S3>Uh, I was just going to comment about the, uh,

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<v S3>the guy that's asking about the insurance policies here in Mississippi.

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<v S3>We can go to our funeral home and make arrangements

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<v S3>through the funeral home and go in and pick out

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<v S3>your casket and everything you want to do and pay

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<v S3>through the funeral home, too. So that's, uh, there's another

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<v S3>option for him if he wants to try that.

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<v S1>Mike, I'm glad you mentioned that. You're exactly right. So

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<v S1>the alternatives would be just save and invest on your own. Uh,

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<v S1>you know, you could have, uh, life insurance, traditional life insurance.

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<v S1>But you're right, that pre-paid funeral plan through a funeral

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<v S1>home is an option. The benefit there is you're locking

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<v S1>in today's funeral costs, and it reduces the burden on

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<v S1>the family at the time of death. The only downside

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<v S1>I would offer there is just limited flexibility. So if

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<v S1>you move, the plan may not transfer. That may not

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<v S1>be a concern. But just know that that's the case.

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<v S1>And then the only other risk here is that if

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<v S1>the funeral home goes out of business and it does happen,

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<v S1>it's rare, but it does happen, then you could lose

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<v S1>that money. So just be aware of the the risk

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<v S1>related to that in that situation. But Mike, it's a

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<v S1>great suggestion, sir, and I appreciate you calling that out today.

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<v S1>Appreciate your call. Uh, you know, when we talk about insurance,

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<v S1>by the way, it's important to note that when we

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<v S1>talk about life insurance, uh, I think it's really critical

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<v S1>that everyone has life insurance during their working years. See, remember,

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<v S1>the purpose of life insurance is to offset the risk

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<v S1>that you died during your working years. You have a dependent,

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<v S1>usually your spouse who's counting on that income and it

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<v S1>goes away. And that's a significant risk in terms of them,

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<v S1>your spouse continuing to main maintain their lifestyle. And so

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<v S1>we get enough coverage, which is usually 10 to 12

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<v S1>times your income, to be able to replace that income

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<v S1>by way of you getting a lump sum that you

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<v S1>could then invest and maintain your lifestyle. Some folks will

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<v S1>add to that 10 to 12 times your income. Uh,

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<v S1>the cost of college for the kids. Some will do

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<v S1>10 to 12 times plus college plus the home mortgage.

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<v S1>Because think about that. If you knew, okay, my spouse

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<v S1>has passed away. I've got 10 to 12 times his

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<v S1>or her income to invest and draw the income on

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<v S1>the house is now paid off. So that drops the expense.

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<v S1>And the college's, uh, tuitions are funded. Now we're in

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<v S1>a pretty solid financial position. Well, the way to get

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<v S1>that amount of coverage, which is going to be a

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<v S1>sizable policy for most folks, is term insurance. See, that's

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<v S1>going to keep the cost of insurance as low as possible,

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<v S1>because you're getting as much coverage as you need and

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<v S1>keeping that cost at a minimum, probably at 20 or

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<v S1>30 year policy. But remember, the idea is, Lord willing,

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<v S1>you never collect on it, and then you drop it

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<v S1>when you get to retirement because you have other assets

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<v S1>and your spouse is no longer depending upon your income.

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<v S1>So think about that. If you don't have that coverage,

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<v S1>put that in place. So we're caring for loved ones

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<v S1>even after death. Well folks, we're going to head to

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<v S1>a break. But let me remind you, we're out of

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<v S1>the studio today. Our team is not here, so don't

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<v S1>call in. But much more to come just around the

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<v S1>corner on faith and finance live. Stick around. Thanks so

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<v S1>much for joining us today on Faith and Finance Live.

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<v S1>I'm Rob West, your host. Hey, our team is away

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<v S1>from the studio today. We're not here, but we've got

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<v S1>some great questions that we lined up in advance. I

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<v S1>know you'll enjoy those a little later in our broadcast. Folks,

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<v S1>have you checked out recently? Our website at giphy.com. If not,

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<v S1>I'd encourage you to do that. You'll find our community

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<v S1>there where you can post questions and comments, hear from

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<v S1>fi app. It's at Faith Philly.com. Hey, before we get

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<v S1>back to our calls, I want to take a moment

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<v S1>to look at the meaning behind this word steward that

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<v S1>we see so often in Scripture. The Greek word for

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<v S1>steward that we find in the New Testament is oikonomos.

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<v S1>It means household manager. So just as a household manager

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<v S1>oversees a home on behalf of the owner, we manage

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<v S1>God's resources. That's a profound understanding because it means we

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<v S1>own nothing, but we are responsible for everything under our care.

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<v S1>Now this of course, extends beyond finances our time, our talents,

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<v S1>our relationships, even truth. Everything we have is God's and

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<v S1>we have to manage it wisely. Our goal to bring

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<v S1>him honor and glory. But what are the implications of

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<v S1>accepting our role as steward with God as owner? Well,

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<v S1>here's a few of them that we'll unpack throughout today's broadcast.

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<v S1>Number one, as stewards have responsibilities, not rights. You see,

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<v S1>as stewards, we manage God's resources according to his will,

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<v S1>not our own desires. We don't have ownership rights over

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<v S1>what we manage. We're responsible for using it faithfully. This

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<v S1>means making decisions based on what pleases God, not what

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<v S1>benefits us personally. Now, don't get me wrong, money is

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<v S1>one of God's good creations, and part of what we

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<v S1>see in First Timothy is that we're to enjoy what

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<v S1>God has given us. He gave us creation. We're to

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<v S1>be workers, to improve it. We're to take, uh, money,

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<v S1>a gift from God, a means of exchange and use

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<v S1>it to further God's kingdom, but also to enjoy and

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<v S1>to benefit our relationships and use it in a way

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<v S1>that honors him. Um, even giving it away. And so

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<v S1>it doesn't mean that we can't enjoy it. It just

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<v S1>means that we seek the wisdom of the master as

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<v S1>the steward, as we're making decisions. Another implication stewards are accountable.

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<v S1>Romans 1412 tells us that each of us will give

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<v S1>an account to God for how we manage his resources.

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<v S1>Did we use them to advance his kingdom and care

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<v S1>for others and reflect his character, or did we waste

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<v S1>them on selfish pursuits? Here's one more. Stewards live with

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<v S1>an eternal perspective. Instead of focusing on temporal wealth, stewards

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<v S1>invest in things that have eternal significance. Listen to Jesus

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<v S1>words in Matthew 619 to 21, where he says, lay

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<v S1>up for yourselves treasures in heaven. Earthly wealth is fleeting,

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<v S1>but how we use it can absolutely have an eternal impact.

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<v S1>My friend Randy Alcorn writes in his incredible book, The

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<v S1>Treasure Principle. He says, and I quote, you can't take

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<v S1>it with you, but you can send it on ahead.

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<v S1>More of those implications of stewardship in just a bit,

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<v S1>but something to think about today as we accept our

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<v S1>really high calling of being a money manager for the

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<v S1>King of Kings. All right, let's get back to the phones.

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<v S1>Let's go to Alabama. Hi, Jerry. Go ahead. Sir.

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<v S3>I've been a.

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<v S4>Student of Barry Beckett forever.

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<v S1>Ah. Very good.

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<v S4>Got a great problem. I have a question I'm not

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<v S4>sure about. My wife and I thought about buying a

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<v S4>piece of property. We have a lake house, and there's

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<v S4>a piece of property beside us. The older gentleman kind

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<v S4>of let it grow up and go down. And he's

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<v S4>76 years old, but he's still living there. So is

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<v S4>it a wise thing to make him an offer and

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<v S4>to buy that property, like in a life estate where

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<v S4>he could live there until he dies? And I'm just

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<v S4>curious about the pros and cons.

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<v S1>Mhm. Uh, you know, it could be um, what is

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<v S1>your goal. So you would buy it to be able

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<v S1>to have it as a property you would use in

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<v S1>the future. Um, are you thinking about its use prior

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<v S1>to his passing?

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<v S4>Well, prior to his passing, it'd be his totally delivered.

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<v S4>And enjoy. We won't touch or do anything. If he passed,

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<v S4>we'd like to own it beside of ours. And an improvement.

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<v S4>Like an investment.

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<v S1>Okay. And then, are you planning on moving in at

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<v S1>at some point, or would it be a second property

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<v S1>for you?

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<v S4>It'd be a third or fourth property for us.

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<v S1>Got it. And so is it more of an investment

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<v S1>for you or is it, uh, you know, something you'd

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<v S1>use more of? Okay. Okay. Got it. Um. And is he, uh,

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<v S1>needing to cash out right now or what is his status?

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<v S4>I'm not sure. I hadn't approached him with the value

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<v S4>yet because I wasn't sure exactly how much to offer.

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<v S4>I guess if I wasn't sure if the property is

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<v S4>worth 250, should I offer him Frame 125. Because, you know,

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<v S4>I don't know if he'll be in there five minutes

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<v S4>or 15 years, you know, and if there's a life estate.

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<v S4>I'm curious too. If he lived 3 or 4 years,

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<v S4>then had to go in a nursing home, could they

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<v S4>come back and reclaim the property? I wasn't sure exactly

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<v S4>how that works.

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<v S1>Yeah. Very good. Um, so a couple of things. Yeah.

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<v S1>I think, you know, the benefits are a potential discount. Now,

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<v S1>you want to you want to do the right thing and,

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<v S1>you know, not undercut him. Uh, you know, in a

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<v S1>way that is not appropriate. But I think, you know,

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<v S1>often a buyer will allow a seller to retain a

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<v S1>life estate, and the purchase price is reduced as a

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<v S1>part of the process because, you know, they're the seller

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<v S1>is motivated to sell because they still retain the right

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<v S1>to live on the property. And in exchange for that,

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<v S1>often lower the selling price. I wouldn't typically see it

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<v S1>that dramatic, you know, by 50%, but certainly some acknowledgement, um,

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<v S1>you know, the obviously there's no immediate property management responsibilities

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<v S1>on your part because the seller remains responsible for maintaining

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<v S1>the property. And then there's an estate planning advantage for

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<v S1>the seller because, you know, it allows them to stay

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<v S1>in the home, retain some of the rights, and that

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<v S1>can assist with Medicaid planning or even avoiding probate. So,

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<v S1>you know, that's helpful. I think, you know, the downsides

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<v S1>of giving the life estate to the seller is just

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<v S1>the uncertainty of the timing. And you acknowledge that it

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<v S1>you know, when you will gain full access to the property,

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<v S1>who knows? It could extend for many years in terms of,

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<v S1>you know, being able to take possession, you've got limited

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<v S1>control over the property. Um, and so you can't sell it,

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<v S1>renovate it, rent it out. Uh, you've obviously got market

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<v S1>value risk because market conditions may, you know, may change. Uh,

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<v S1>there's of course the maintenance and repairs. And then I

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<v S1>think to your point, um, you know, there is the,

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<v S1>the legal consideration. So it would be really important to

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<v S1>work with a real estate attorney to ensure the terms

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<v S1>are clearly outlined, including the responsibilities for taxes and maintenance.

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<v S1>So I'm on board with this. I would check with

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<v S1>an estate planning attorney, though, just to make sure you

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<v S1>understand the implications with. Great to have you with us

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<v S1>today on faith and finance live. By the way, we're

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<v S1>let's see here. Uh, before we go back to the phones,

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<v S1>I'm sharing just a moment ago that there are real

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<v S1>implications to understanding our role as stewards of God's resources.

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<v S1>You know, when we accept that role as steward, uh,

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<v S1>it changes everything about how we view and handle God's money.

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<v S1>I mentioned that, uh, stewards have responsibilities. Not right. Stewards

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<v S1>are accountable. Stewards live with an eternal perspective. They're also

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<v S1>faithful in small things. Jesus teaches in Luke 1610, one

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<v S1>who is faithful in a very little, is also faithful

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<v S1>in much, and one who is dishonest in a very

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<v S1>little is also dishonest in much. Faithful stewards manage even

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<v S1>the smallest resources with care, knowing that God sees and

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<v S1>rewards our faithfulness. Uh, stewards hold loosely and give generously.

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<v S1>You see, when we recognize that everything belongs to God,

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<v S1>it becomes easier to hold our possessions with an open hand.

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<v S1>We give generously as stewards, knowing that what we offer

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<v S1>is already God's in the first place, and in doing so,

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<v S1>we reflect his generosity and trust him to provide for

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<v S1>our needs, keeping in mind that ultimately, he's the ultimate

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<v S1>giver and we're created in his image. We're image bearers

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<v S1>of God himself. I like to think we're most like

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<v S1>him when we're giving. Finally, stewards don't take credit. What

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<v S1>do I mean by that? Well, I would take you

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<v S1>to Luke 12. Jesus tells the parable. You know it

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<v S1>well of a man who hoards wealth, focusing on his

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<v S1>possessions instead of being what it says in the parable

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<v S1>rich toward God. The man takes full credit for his success,

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<v S1>failing to acknowledge God's provision. You hear him using words

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<v S1>like I and my repeatedly as he talks about what

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<v S1>he's done to generate this prosperity. Well, in contrast, good

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<v S1>stewards recognize that everything we have comes from God, and

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<v S1>we give him credit for any success. Even the power

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<v S1>to create wealth comes from him. And so think about

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<v S1>that today as you accept your role as steward. Let's

0:24:40.609 --> 0:24:44.490
<v S1>move from giving head knowledge and consent to this idea

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<v S1>of God owning it all. And let's allow that to

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<v S1>translate into how we actually make decisions and manage God's

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<v S1>money on a daily basis. All right, back to the

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<v S1>phones we go. Let's go to Texas. Hi, Wayne. Thanks

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<v S1>for your patience. Go ahead.

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<v S5>Uh. Thank you. Uh, I was calling my wife will

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<v S5>be 62, uh, in August. She's 61, obviously. And, uh,

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<v S5>I was thinking about. We were thinking about her taking

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<v S5>her Social security. She's retired. Uh, but we still file jointly.

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<v S5>I didn't know if it would be taxed since I

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<v S5>still work.

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<v S1>Yeah, it certainly, uh, can be. And it's going to

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<v S1>have to do with, uh, the amount of income that

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<v S1>you earn. So let's start with just her taking the

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.000
<v S1>benefits early. So she would be taking these based on

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.960
<v S1>her own work record. And then she you recognize that

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:39.520
<v S1>she'd get about a, somewhere around a 30% reduction in

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.600
<v S1>that benefit by taking it early.

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:43.400
<v S5>Right.

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:43.680
<v S1>Okay.

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.080
<v S5>As opposed to being 67 I think 67 is her

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:46.920
<v S5>full retirement.

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.480
<v S1>Yeah, exactly. Okay. So you just need to think through

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.120
<v S1>that and and make sure that that makes sense to

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:57.080
<v S1>lock in that reduced benefit. Now in terms of the taxation, uh,

0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:00.920
<v S1>basically the taxability of those benefits, if you will, depends

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:04.200
<v S1>on what's called your combined income. So when you combine

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:08.280
<v S1>all of your income, if that's between 32,000 and 44,000,

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:12.560
<v S1>then up to 50% of the benefits may be taxable.

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.760
<v S1>If your combined income, and I suspect it would putting

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:20.360
<v S1>it all together exceeds 44,000, then that's going to be

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:25.230
<v S1>up to 85% of the benefits may be taxable. Um,

0:26:25.230 --> 0:26:29.510
<v S1>so you would likely, you know, be paying tax on 85%

0:26:29.670 --> 0:26:32.230
<v S1>of those benefits that she's taking.

0:26:33.070 --> 0:26:35.830
<v S5>Would that also be if she waited till full retirement?

0:26:35.869 --> 0:26:37.430
<v S5>It would be the same thing. Right?

0:26:37.470 --> 0:26:38.630
<v S1>That's exactly right.

0:26:39.109 --> 0:26:41.310
<v S5>If I'm still working. So because I was under the

0:26:41.310 --> 0:26:43.910
<v S5>impression that it was not taxed if she doesn't work.

0:26:43.910 --> 0:26:44.990
<v S5>But that's not true.

0:26:45.310 --> 0:26:48.670
<v S1>That's not true. No. It really has to do with, um,

0:26:48.710 --> 0:26:51.950
<v S1>your combined income. Okay. And when you look at. And

0:26:51.950 --> 0:26:56.070
<v S1>that does include your Social Security benefits in that calculation

0:26:56.070 --> 0:26:56.630
<v S1>as well.

0:26:57.670 --> 0:26:59.149
<v S5>Very good. Well thank you.

0:26:59.310 --> 0:27:01.790
<v S1>All right. Thanks for your call today. And by the way,

0:27:01.790 --> 0:27:04.470
<v S1>it's up to 50% of those benefits that would be

0:27:04.470 --> 0:27:07.590
<v S1>factored into that combined income number. So yeah take a

0:27:07.590 --> 0:27:09.430
<v S1>look at that and just make sure you plan ahead

0:27:09.430 --> 0:27:12.550
<v S1>for that. Because that could obviously reduce what you're expecting

0:27:12.550 --> 0:27:14.949
<v S1>to have come in on a on a monthly basis.

0:27:15.030 --> 0:27:16.990
<v S1>Thanks for your call today. You know, as we were

0:27:16.990 --> 0:27:21.510
<v S1>talking a moment ago, just about the implications of stewardship, uh,

0:27:21.540 --> 0:27:24.660
<v S1>it does cause us to want to step back and

0:27:24.660 --> 0:27:28.900
<v S1>think that if every spending decision is ultimately a spiritual

0:27:28.900 --> 0:27:33.540
<v S1>decision because I'm managing God's money, what does that mean

0:27:33.540 --> 0:27:37.460
<v S1>for my daily, uh, you know, allocation? What does that

0:27:37.460 --> 0:27:41.380
<v S1>mean for my budget? Because here's the reality. Ultimately, what

0:27:41.380 --> 0:27:44.700
<v S1>you spend God's money on is the most accurate reflection,

0:27:44.700 --> 0:27:48.020
<v S1>in my view, of what you value and ultimately where

0:27:48.020 --> 0:27:51.820
<v S1>you've placed your trust. And the question is, does that

0:27:51.820 --> 0:27:54.379
<v S1>really line up with what's most important to me? You know,

0:27:54.420 --> 0:27:56.820
<v S1>if you were to take your spending plan, maybe it's

0:27:56.820 --> 0:27:59.580
<v S1>your budget or, uh, you know, you were to take

0:27:59.580 --> 0:28:02.820
<v S1>a printout of, you know, whatever your primary account is

0:28:02.820 --> 0:28:05.380
<v S1>that you, you spend out of, and you just take

0:28:05.380 --> 0:28:08.180
<v S1>a look at those big categories on where you're spending

0:28:08.180 --> 0:28:12.060
<v S1>God's money. Does that really reflect what is most important

0:28:12.060 --> 0:28:15.580
<v S1>to you, and if not, what changes are in order?

0:28:15.619 --> 0:28:18.500
<v S1>I think the other consideration we need to make is,

0:28:18.859 --> 0:28:20.980
<v S1>you know, does this really line up with our values

0:28:20.980 --> 0:28:23.700
<v S1>and our priorities? We talk a lot about goals, and

0:28:23.740 --> 0:28:28.180
<v S1>goals are fine so long as they're originally set by us.

0:28:28.180 --> 0:28:32.859
<v S1>Prayerfully considering what God's doing in our life and as believers,

0:28:32.859 --> 0:28:35.140
<v S1>what are our values and how do we let our

0:28:35.140 --> 0:28:39.860
<v S1>values then inform the goals that we're setting? And then ultimately,

0:28:40.020 --> 0:28:44.420
<v S1>in a very practical way, those those financial decisions we're

0:28:44.420 --> 0:28:47.460
<v S1>making on a daily basis, we need to think through that.

0:28:47.460 --> 0:28:49.740
<v S1>And so often I think we skip past that and

0:28:49.740 --> 0:28:53.340
<v S1>we just kind of spend without a real plan. And

0:28:53.340 --> 0:28:56.100
<v S1>ultimately we're not going to end up in the destination

0:28:56.100 --> 0:28:58.140
<v S1>we want. So give that some thought today as you

0:28:58.140 --> 0:29:00.780
<v S1>think about your own spending, especially now, where it's more

0:29:00.780 --> 0:29:03.780
<v S1>challenging than ever. All right, let's head back to the phones.

0:29:03.780 --> 0:29:06.140
<v S1>We'll go to Louisiana and welcome Mike to the broadcast.

0:29:06.140 --> 0:29:06.860
<v S1>Go ahead sir.

0:29:07.780 --> 0:29:12.020
<v S6>Uh, yes, I'm on Social Security disability. And when I

0:29:12.020 --> 0:29:16.500
<v S6>was in a different state, I had just Medicare. And, uh,

0:29:16.500 --> 0:29:20.690
<v S6>for a supplement, I had Medicaid and I had like

0:29:20.730 --> 0:29:23.969
<v S6>two surgeries that I needed and there was no problem

0:29:23.970 --> 0:29:28.410
<v S6>to get them. And then now that they've, uh, made

0:29:28.410 --> 0:29:32.770
<v S6>it where regular insurance companies like Humana and all these

0:29:32.770 --> 0:29:39.570
<v S6>different companies, uh, have a part in the Medicaid or

0:29:40.050 --> 0:29:45.730
<v S6>Medicare Advantage or whatever. They've denied me a surgery that

0:29:45.730 --> 0:29:48.570
<v S6>a surgeon said I need for my spine, that really

0:29:48.610 --> 0:29:50.970
<v S6>my back really hurts. I was wondering if I could

0:29:50.970 --> 0:29:55.210
<v S6>go just back to regular Medicare and Medicaid as a

0:29:55.210 --> 0:29:59.410
<v S6>supplement somehow. Because they don't deny, like, these insurance companies,

0:29:59.450 --> 0:30:01.450
<v S6>you know, they're just they're out to make money. They're

0:30:01.450 --> 0:30:03.490
<v S6>a business. And they're denying folks.

0:30:03.890 --> 0:30:07.610
<v S1>Yeah. So you can switch back to original Medicare and

0:30:07.610 --> 0:30:11.410
<v S1>Medicaid after enrolling in a Medicare Advantage plan. Uh, there

0:30:11.410 --> 0:30:14.690
<v S1>would be certain conditions and time frames involved in that.

0:30:14.890 --> 0:30:19.040
<v S1>So there's a Medicare advantage. Disenrollment period where you can

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:24.120
<v S1>switch back to original Medicare. During the Medicare annual enrollment period,

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.520
<v S1>that's between October 15th and December 7th. So that would

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.320
<v S1>be the time that you would drop your Medicare Advantage

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:34.280
<v S1>and re enroll in original Medicare. There's also a Medicare

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:39.240
<v S1>open enrollment period. So there's other issues there with regard

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:44.280
<v S1>to Medicaid eligibility and guaranteed issues. So I think your

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.880
<v S1>next step is probably to contact Medicare directly at one

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:51.160
<v S1>800 Medicare and talk through this with them. And then

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:54.080
<v S1>you can start the enrollment process. We'll be right back.

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:06.840
<v S1>So glad to have you with us today on Faith

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.160
<v S1>and Finance Live. Our team is away today, so don't

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.040
<v S1>call in. But we lined up some great questions in

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.080
<v S1>advance and we'll be going to those here in just

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.830
<v S1>a moment. Let me also remind you that the advice

0:31:17.830 --> 0:31:21.070
<v S1>that I give each day on this program is general

0:31:21.070 --> 0:31:25.390
<v S1>in nature. We offer principles and ideas that apply at

0:31:25.390 --> 0:31:28.670
<v S1>a high level. They are not personalized. So that's why

0:31:28.670 --> 0:31:32.470
<v S1>you should always seek professional financial advice. And if you'd

0:31:32.470 --> 0:31:35.390
<v S1>like to find a professional who shares your values, we

0:31:35.390 --> 0:31:38.110
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0:31:38.110 --> 0:31:41.750
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0:31:41.750 --> 0:31:44.830
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0:31:44.830 --> 0:31:47.670
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0:31:47.670 --> 0:31:50.470
<v S1>at Faith. Com now let's head to the phone calls

0:31:50.470 --> 0:31:54.030
<v S1>we have lined up in Alabama. Matthew. Go ahead.

0:31:54.830 --> 0:31:58.590
<v S7>Yeah, I've got a question. Uh, I know what the

0:31:58.590 --> 0:32:02.390
<v S7>Bible says about our finances. Of course we need more

0:32:02.390 --> 0:32:06.510
<v S7>and more, but I have a question about the, um,

0:32:06.630 --> 0:32:10.510
<v S7>the church, the, um, the finances of the church. Um,

0:32:10.710 --> 0:32:14.190
<v S7>do we preach law or do we preach, um, grace?

0:32:14.190 --> 0:32:17.670
<v S7>So I can't find the word tithing in the New

0:32:17.670 --> 0:32:21.550
<v S7>Testament or in the Gospels. And I'm wondering, can we

0:32:21.550 --> 0:32:25.950
<v S7>mix law with grace? What what does the what is

0:32:25.950 --> 0:32:29.910
<v S7>the real teaching of the apostles? Can you help me

0:32:29.910 --> 0:32:30.469
<v S7>with that?

0:32:30.630 --> 0:32:32.470
<v S1>Yeah, I'd be delighted to. I mean, you will see

0:32:32.510 --> 0:32:35.550
<v S1>reference to the tithe in the New Testament. Jesus mentions

0:32:35.550 --> 0:32:38.190
<v S1>the tithe. But, uh, you, uh, to the first part

0:32:38.190 --> 0:32:41.469
<v S1>of your question, uh, we are absolutely no longer under

0:32:41.470 --> 0:32:43.910
<v S1>the Law of Moses. We're under the law of Christ.

0:32:43.910 --> 0:32:47.950
<v S1>And so we don't give out of obligation because of

0:32:47.950 --> 0:32:49.750
<v S1>the law of Moses. I think we have to look

0:32:49.750 --> 0:32:53.510
<v S1>to the whole counsel of Scripture, and certainly that includes

0:32:53.510 --> 0:32:56.910
<v S1>the New Testament to say, what should our posture be

0:32:56.910 --> 0:33:00.910
<v S1>toward giving at this point as believers on this side

0:33:00.910 --> 0:33:03.990
<v S1>of the cross? And I think the the big idea

0:33:04.030 --> 0:33:08.590
<v S1>there is to recognize that Jesus raises the bar in

0:33:08.590 --> 0:33:11.390
<v S1>every case. And I think that includes our giving. I mean,

0:33:11.430 --> 0:33:15.740
<v S1>the the model we see of giving is around to

0:33:15.780 --> 0:33:18.500
<v S1>whom much is given, much is required. You know, we

0:33:18.500 --> 0:33:21.460
<v S1>talked about the the widow's mite. You know, the most

0:33:21.460 --> 0:33:23.540
<v S1>famous giver in the Bible. We don't know her name,

0:33:23.540 --> 0:33:25.820
<v S1>but we know she gave out of her poverty. And

0:33:25.860 --> 0:33:29.980
<v S1>Jesus celebrated her heart posture in her giving. And she

0:33:29.980 --> 0:33:32.700
<v S1>gave sacrificially. So I think that should be a a

0:33:32.820 --> 0:33:36.940
<v S1>hallmark of our giving, where to give proportionately to what

0:33:36.980 --> 0:33:41.420
<v S1>God has entrusted to us. But we do. We give cheerfully,

0:33:41.460 --> 0:33:44.459
<v S1>not out of, not under compulsion. That's clear in the

0:33:44.460 --> 0:33:46.980
<v S1>New Testament. And so I don't think we need to

0:33:46.980 --> 0:33:50.500
<v S1>take a legalistic approach to it. And yet I think

0:33:50.500 --> 0:33:54.580
<v S1>this idea of systematic giving, starting with the local church,

0:33:54.580 --> 0:33:58.540
<v S1>based on our increase using the tithe, as I'll call it,

0:33:58.540 --> 0:34:02.940
<v S1>a guideline, is a very appropriate beginning place for our giving.

0:34:02.940 --> 0:34:05.140
<v S1>I don't think it's the end though. I think we

0:34:05.140 --> 0:34:08.540
<v S1>start there and then we go beyond that, because those

0:34:08.540 --> 0:34:10.859
<v S1>of us who have seen the cross and know what

0:34:10.900 --> 0:34:14.049
<v S1>Jesus did on our behalf. I think we can give

0:34:14.090 --> 0:34:16.890
<v S1>as an act of worship, as an overflow of our

0:34:16.890 --> 0:34:20.370
<v S1>gratitude to God, knowing that the very power to create

0:34:20.370 --> 0:34:23.170
<v S1>wealth comes from God Himself. That money is one of

0:34:23.170 --> 0:34:27.090
<v S1>his good creations that he entrusted to us, that he's

0:34:27.090 --> 0:34:30.129
<v S1>our provider. But the act of giving is how we

0:34:30.170 --> 0:34:33.569
<v S1>hold it loosely. We demonstrate our trust in him as

0:34:33.570 --> 0:34:37.530
<v S1>our provider, and it's our way to be hardwired into

0:34:37.570 --> 0:34:42.730
<v S1>God's activity by our generosity, participating with where he is

0:34:42.730 --> 0:34:46.130
<v S1>at work and God's plan A is the local church.

0:34:46.130 --> 0:34:49.969
<v S1>It's not that the the local church is has a

0:34:49.969 --> 0:34:53.770
<v S1>mission to reach people for Christ. The local church is

0:34:53.810 --> 0:34:58.489
<v S1>God's strategy to fulfill his mission and calling on the earth.

0:34:58.489 --> 0:35:01.050
<v S1>And I think, you know, our support. There should be

0:35:01.250 --> 0:35:04.210
<v S1>a beginning place, but I think we've got to find

0:35:04.210 --> 0:35:08.690
<v S1>that that giving approach that is an overflow of gratitude

0:35:08.690 --> 0:35:12.520
<v S1>to God and not legalistic where we're checking a box,

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:13.600
<v S1>if that makes sense.

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.760
<v S7>When we preach tithes, aren't we preaching legalism?

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.719
<v S1>Uh, it depends on the heart posture, I think. You know,

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.200
<v S1>you will find many churches that that preach the tithe

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.239
<v S1>as a beginning point. And I think, you know, we

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.600
<v S1>can look to Scripture and see that again. It is

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:31.480
<v S1>referenced in the New Testament. It actually, with Melchizedek, preceded

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.399
<v S1>the law of Moses. So I think it's very appropriate

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:39.160
<v S1>to talk about a systematic gift starting with the local church.

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.120
<v S1>And I think that tithe is a great guideline. My

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:45.960
<v S1>friend and author, Randy Alcorn calls the tithe the training

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.680
<v S1>wheels of giving. So again, I think as long as

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:52.600
<v S1>we understand that it's not out of legalism, but instead

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.120
<v S1>we're doing it as a cheerful giver, not under compulsion.

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.439
<v S1>I think it's very appropriate when a church says, hey,

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.160
<v S1>let's start with that systematic gift of the tithe to

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:06.040
<v S1>the local church, because we see that modeled throughout the

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.830
<v S1>whole of Scripture, preceding the law, in the law and

0:36:09.830 --> 0:36:12.870
<v S1>referenced beyond the Law of Moses under the law of

0:36:12.870 --> 0:36:16.310
<v S1>Christ by Jesus himself. But again, we have to understand

0:36:16.310 --> 0:36:19.510
<v S1>why we're doing it. And just like we don't follow

0:36:19.510 --> 0:36:22.590
<v S1>a lot of the traditions of the Law of Moses

0:36:22.630 --> 0:36:25.670
<v S1>in other cases, because we're not under that any longer,

0:36:25.670 --> 0:36:28.870
<v S1>I think the same would apply to the tithe. So ultimately,

0:36:28.870 --> 0:36:30.989
<v S1>that's between you and the Lord, what you would do

0:36:30.989 --> 0:36:33.430
<v S1>with your giving. But I would see that as more

0:36:33.430 --> 0:36:35.549
<v S1>of a starting point than an ending point, if that

0:36:35.550 --> 0:36:37.870
<v S1>makes sense. Is that helpful at all, Matthew?

0:36:38.430 --> 0:36:41.549
<v S7>It is, but it isn't. So I'll just, um. I

0:36:41.590 --> 0:36:43.469
<v S7>guess I'll have to leave it at that, because when

0:36:43.469 --> 0:36:46.870
<v S7>you talk about Melchizedek, he was a type and shadow

0:36:47.110 --> 0:36:50.469
<v S7>of the he was literally the lineage of the priesthood.

0:36:50.510 --> 0:36:53.390
<v S7>So it's only it goes back to the law and

0:36:53.390 --> 0:36:56.109
<v S7>the priesthood. That's why he gave that to a type

0:36:56.110 --> 0:36:58.950
<v S7>and shadow of Jesus that, you know, he's paying homage

0:36:58.950 --> 0:37:01.430
<v S7>to Jesus, who was you know what I'm talking about?

0:37:01.430 --> 0:37:03.069
<v S7>Because you know what the word I do. Thank you

0:37:03.070 --> 0:37:04.750
<v S7>very much for your time and patience.

0:37:04.989 --> 0:37:07.509
<v S1>You're very welcome. And I you know, I think at

0:37:07.630 --> 0:37:10.310
<v S1>the end of the day, we need to look at

0:37:10.670 --> 0:37:12.910
<v S1>this being something that we need to have, you know,

0:37:12.950 --> 0:37:15.870
<v S1>take up between us and the Lord. And I think,

0:37:15.910 --> 0:37:18.469
<v S1>you know, you make a very clear point here that

0:37:18.469 --> 0:37:21.390
<v S1>we're no longer under the law. In fact, the Old

0:37:21.430 --> 0:37:26.190
<v S1>Testament giving laws went far beyond 10%. Uh, you know,

0:37:26.230 --> 0:37:28.750
<v S1>when we look at it was probably about 23 and

0:37:28.750 --> 0:37:31.109
<v S1>a third percent when you put all of the the

0:37:31.150 --> 0:37:35.190
<v S1>tithes together. Uh, there was the, the one for the Levites.

0:37:35.190 --> 0:37:37.029
<v S1>There was the one for the temple and then the

0:37:37.030 --> 0:37:39.830
<v S1>one for the poor, which was every three years. So

0:37:40.030 --> 0:37:42.350
<v S1>you put that together? That'd be 23 and a third

0:37:42.350 --> 0:37:45.750
<v S1>percent a year. Uh, but again, I would go back

0:37:45.750 --> 0:37:49.350
<v S1>to this idea that when Jesus enters the scene, he

0:37:49.350 --> 0:37:52.350
<v S1>takes giving to a higher level. I would say he

0:37:52.350 --> 0:37:54.870
<v S1>showed a different way of giving. I'll call it whole

0:37:54.910 --> 0:37:58.670
<v S1>life generosity. He modeled that by giving his life as

0:37:58.670 --> 0:38:02.910
<v S1>a sacrifice. So when he talked about money, he taught

0:38:03.270 --> 0:38:05.390
<v S1>that we should give as we've been blessed. In Luke

0:38:05.500 --> 0:38:08.820
<v S1>638 he said, to whom much is given, much is required.

0:38:08.820 --> 0:38:12.060
<v S1>In Luke 1248 I mentioned a moment ago, he commended

0:38:12.060 --> 0:38:15.060
<v S1>the poor widow who gave her last two copper coins.

0:38:15.060 --> 0:38:17.259
<v S1>He challenged the rich young ruler to give away all

0:38:17.300 --> 0:38:20.420
<v S1>of his wealth. So I understand why there might be

0:38:20.420 --> 0:38:23.700
<v S1>confusion around the tithe, and that's why I think it

0:38:23.700 --> 0:38:28.020
<v S1>always comes back to what is giving that God honors. Uh,

0:38:28.020 --> 0:38:31.779
<v S1>I think it's giving. That's cheerful. It's giving that's free.

0:38:32.100 --> 0:38:36.460
<v S1>Not under compulsion. It's giving. That's sacrificial. It's giving that's

0:38:36.460 --> 0:38:41.379
<v S1>proportionate and systematic. But within those guidelines, I think we

0:38:41.380 --> 0:38:44.620
<v S1>have to decide what is the right amount for us.

0:38:44.860 --> 0:38:47.940
<v S1>And again, it's not about a law. It's about us

0:38:47.940 --> 0:38:50.460
<v S1>coming between the father and saying, God, what would you

0:38:50.460 --> 0:38:54.020
<v S1>have me to do? And I would think anything less

0:38:54.020 --> 0:38:56.940
<v S1>than a tithe would be missing the heart of God,

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<v S1>at least the way I read the counsel of Scripture.

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<v S1>So anyway, that's some thoughts for you, Matthew. I appreciate

0:39:02.700 --> 0:39:04.690
<v S1>you raising the question. It's a it's a it's a

0:39:04.690 --> 0:39:07.410
<v S1>very appropriate question. And I think one that's at the

0:39:07.410 --> 0:39:09.690
<v S1>the center of what we do here on this broadcast

0:39:09.690 --> 0:39:13.490
<v S1>every day, because my heart's desire is that we would

0:39:13.489 --> 0:39:16.330
<v S1>see this role we have as stewards of God's money,

0:39:16.330 --> 0:39:20.089
<v S1>as an incredibly high calling that our goal is faithfulness

0:39:20.090 --> 0:39:23.450
<v S1>to opportunity, which means what have you done with what

0:39:23.450 --> 0:39:26.930
<v S1>you've been given? And we've been given so much before

0:39:26.930 --> 0:39:30.290
<v S1>the first dollar. We have an abundance because of our

0:39:30.290 --> 0:39:34.649
<v S1>position in Christ, because we find our identity in Christ.

0:39:34.930 --> 0:39:38.370
<v S1>We're then blessed with an abundance, and that's what our

0:39:38.370 --> 0:39:40.649
<v S1>heart longs for. But the moment we try to put

0:39:40.650 --> 0:39:43.730
<v S1>that in money, well, we're going to be left disappointed.

0:39:43.730 --> 0:39:46.210
<v S1>So we see money as a tool. God is our

0:39:46.210 --> 0:39:49.690
<v S1>ultimate treasure. And then we give as an overflow of

0:39:49.690 --> 0:39:53.450
<v S1>worship and devotion to him. Take that, think it through,

0:39:53.489 --> 0:39:56.370
<v S1>pray about it, and thanks for your call today. Let's

0:39:56.370 --> 0:39:58.410
<v S1>go to Tennessee. Hi, Amy. Go ahead.

0:39:58.850 --> 0:40:02.969
<v S8>Hi. I just have a quick question. So, um, I'm

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:06.040
<v S8>kind of trying to figure out right now, you know,

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:11.839
<v S8>my budget, and, um, I am contributing to a 401 K,

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.839
<v S8>but I was wondering whether I could, if I should

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:19.840
<v S8>just stop contributing to a 401 K and instead have

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.720
<v S8>just six months of emergency savings saved up first before

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:24.560
<v S8>I do that?

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.759
<v S1>Yeah, it's a great question, Amy. Um, so how much

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.920
<v S1>do you have in your emergency fund right now? How

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:30.680
<v S1>many months?

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:36.400
<v S8>Um, not even too much, but close to two months

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:36.799
<v S8>right now.

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.760
<v S1>Okay, good. Yeah. That's great. And you're not putting anything

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:41.279
<v S1>in the 401 K currently?

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.200
<v S8>I am, I'm putting 15% right now.

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:45.719
<v S9>Oh, wow.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:49.279
<v S1>That's tremendous. Uh, and so are you getting any matching?

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:54.800
<v S8>Yeah, I am. I'm getting, like, 5%, so.

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:55.560
<v S9>Okay.

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.879
<v S1>But what what I'm hearing is, though, that because you're

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.759
<v S1>doing the 15%, you're not having anything left over, so

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.640
<v S1>you're not able to add to the emergency fund anymore?

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:05.360
<v S1>Is that right?

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:12.440
<v S8>Um, yes and no. It's very tight right now, but

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.040
<v S8>the good thing is that I am debt free. Um,

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:19.160
<v S8>because I paid off my student loan last year, so. Hallelujah.

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:20.120
<v S8>Thank the Lord.

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:20.839
<v S9>That's right.

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.280
<v S8>For helping me through that. Um.

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:25.040
<v S9>Well, here's where I.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.080
<v S1>Would go from here. I think it's great. I would

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:33.719
<v S1>absolutely take full advantage of the matching, but beyond the matching. Now,

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.759
<v S1>if you can dial back other spending so that you

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:40.799
<v S1>can contribute a meaningful amount to your, your savings. So

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:44.680
<v S1>you're continuing to head towards six months expenses. That would

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.200
<v S1>be great. I'd rather you pull it from other places

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.400
<v S1>than the 401 K if you can find it. You know,

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.600
<v S1>maybe there's a subscription you could cancel, or maybe you

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.520
<v S1>you don't eat out quite as much. I mean, whatever

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:58.000
<v S1>it is. But if truly the the thing that's preventing

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:01.790
<v S1>you from really getting your emergency fund up to six

0:42:01.790 --> 0:42:04.589
<v S1>months in a relatively short period of time is the

0:42:04.590 --> 0:42:08.870
<v S1>401 K contributions. I would say dial that back so

0:42:08.870 --> 0:42:11.430
<v S1>that you're still getting the full match, but you're not

0:42:11.430 --> 0:42:14.750
<v S1>quite doing the 15%. And then when you get up

0:42:14.750 --> 0:42:18.190
<v S1>above three months expenses or perhaps close to six months,

0:42:18.190 --> 0:42:21.109
<v S1>then maybe you turn that back on. But, you know,

0:42:21.150 --> 0:42:24.589
<v S1>I'd rather you have a fully funded emergency fund at

0:42:24.590 --> 0:42:26.990
<v S1>this point in your life than I would you putting

0:42:26.989 --> 0:42:30.710
<v S1>the full 15% in the in the 401 K, as

0:42:30.710 --> 0:42:32.950
<v S1>long as you're still getting the matching portion. Does that

0:42:32.950 --> 0:42:33.510
<v S1>make sense?

0:42:34.150 --> 0:42:39.230
<v S8>Yes it does. That's very that actually completely just helps me.

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<v S1>Thank you so much. You're welcome. Amy. Thanks for calling

0:42:42.469 --> 0:42:45.029
<v S1>and for being such a faithful listener. We appreciate it. Well,

0:42:45.030 --> 0:42:47.109
<v S1>that's going to do it for us today. Faith and

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0:42:50.469 --> 0:42:53.910
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0:42:53.910 --> 0:42:55.790
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0:42:55.790 --> 0:42:57.950
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