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S2: Practical from the Bible. Tips and tricks to kill. Not tricks,

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S3: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up

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S3: Even if other people were.

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S2: The gospel changes everything.

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S4: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement

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S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl

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S1: and crew. You ever had a weekend to remember?

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S5: I mean, one of those weekends where you go. Ho

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S5: ho ho ho ho ho. Won't soon forget that one.

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S6: Well, and this one is kind of a play on

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S6: I will remember. It's also a weekend to remember, meaning

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S6: a weekend dedicated to remembering things.

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S5: Oh, whoa!

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S2: Oh, yeah. Okay. Good point. I didn't think about that.

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S6: Go. Like, however you. Wherever you put the emphasis.

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S5: Yes. And and we're going to get into that. We're

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S5: But in order to set this up, I'm going to

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S5: give Young Thunder some low hanging fruit here. Now I

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S5: And Ali, we got to hold them to it. Okay.

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S6: All right. What's the.

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S5: Rule? Because young Thunder is dying to talk about the bears.

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S5: Now, there's a lot of people right now that go. Oh, great.

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S5: We're going to talk about the bears. We aren't in Chicago.

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S5: We aren't anywhere near Chicago. And we don't even like

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S5: So there was a game of all games over the weekend.

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S5: Sad to say the bears did not win that baby.

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S5: They were so close. It was right there. Okay, now

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S5: I'm breaking my own rules here. So, young Thunder, I'm

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S5: Ali's going to support you. I'm going to stay quiet.

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S5: The only thing I'm holding you to is there's got

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S2: Got to be application from the weekend.

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S5: Spiritual application from the fourth down pass. Because I know

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S5: Are you okay?

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S5: You can do it. Okay. The floor is yours. Young Thunder.

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S5: Tell us about the Weekend to Remember. And, Ali, I

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S2: So hey, let's watch this thing. And it's close the

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S5: Jonathan, that was beautiful. 4271 someone crying.

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S6: Jonathan, you made me cry. Oh boy.

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S5: Okay, Jonathan, that was epic. That's that's that that was

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S5: So maybe you're feeling that way and practically you're feeling like,

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S5: Boy, when you build something a weekend to remember, I

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S6: Yeah, it's going to be something. You're right. It's promised

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S9: We've seen God do some amazing things.

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S5: Why do you believe in the power of prayer? Taking

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S5: Praise God he's able to be one of those that says,

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00:22:40,790 --> 00:22:44,190
S5: meet me where I'm at here. What a cool thing. Wow.

454
00:22:44,510 --> 00:22:46,150
S5: Why do you believe in the power of prayer? Let's

455
00:22:46,150 --> 00:22:47,630
S5: get at least one more story in here.

456
00:22:47,910 --> 00:22:50,869
S6: We've got a first time caller from Florida. Tell us,

457
00:22:50,910 --> 00:22:57,150
S6: why do you believe in the power of prayer? Yeah,

458
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:58,950
S6: you're on with Carl and crew. Go ahead. Tell us

459
00:22:58,950 --> 00:23:00,310
S6: why you believe in the power of prayer.

460
00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:04,629
S15: I believe in the power of prayer. Because I believe

461
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:07,630
S15: in God. And I prayed. And during my prayer, I

462
00:23:07,670 --> 00:23:11,510
S15: was praying about unable to pay the rent. And I said, God,

463
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:13,950
S15: why is it so hard? And he said, you prayed

464
00:23:13,950 --> 00:23:16,470
S15: for the fruit of the spirit, and longsuffering is one

465
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:18,550
S15: of them. But then I hear a knock on the

466
00:23:18,550 --> 00:23:20,390
S15: door while I was talking to God, and it was

467
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:23,450
S15: the landlord, the landlady. And she said, you know what?

468
00:23:24,090 --> 00:23:26,890
S15: You don't have to pay the rent. Ha ha! Hallelujah.

469
00:23:26,930 --> 00:23:30,090
S15: You don't have to pay the rent this month. It's okay.

470
00:23:30,130 --> 00:23:33,250
S15: I'll wait until next month. And I that's. That's why

471
00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:34,290
S15: I believe in prayer.

472
00:23:35,170 --> 00:23:38,970
S5: That's that's an immediate act of mercy that someone was

473
00:23:38,970 --> 00:23:41,570
S5: prompted to do for you. And that is cool. My

474
00:23:41,609 --> 00:23:43,930
S5: first time caller from Florida. Love you guys.

475
00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:48,690
S1: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl

476
00:23:48,690 --> 00:23:49,290
S1: and crew.

477
00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:54,770
S5: The power of prayer is an easy thing to say,

478
00:23:56,050 --> 00:24:02,170
S5: but the question is, do we really believe it? Fair enough.

479
00:24:02,530 --> 00:24:04,290
S6: Believe in that prayer works.

480
00:24:04,330 --> 00:24:07,130
S5: That that there is power in prayer? Sure.

481
00:24:07,690 --> 00:24:08,170
S6: Sure.

482
00:24:08,330 --> 00:24:11,969
S5: Why do you think we struggle with that? That gap

483
00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:15,090
S5: between man. There is prayer. What are the reasons? It's

484
00:24:15,090 --> 00:24:17,889
S5: not just one. There's multiple reasons. But why is it.

485
00:24:18,450 --> 00:24:21,169
S6: Because I think there's part of it that feels a

486
00:24:21,170 --> 00:24:25,800
S6: little unnatural. Sometimes when you're sitting down and you're trying

487
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,080
S6: to connect with the God that you can't see and

488
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,880
S6: you're talking and you, you believe in faith, that your

489
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,359
S6: words are being heard and that you're hearing from God.

490
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,920
S6: But there's an element of mystery to it that's unlike

491
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,840
S6: other relationships, for sure.

492
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:43,640
S14: Yeah.

493
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,760
S5: And there's probably plenty of times when we've asked God

494
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,000
S5: for something and it seems like he's silent. Sure. Let's

495
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,480
S5: just get real honest here. Right.

496
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,879
S2: Totally. I you know, I think some of it is,

497
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,800
S2: is a is a faith thing. Sometimes we, you know, I,

498
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,040
S2: I saw this in the Bible. Jesus did this in

499
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,320
S2: the Bible. God did this answering prayers in the Bible. But, uh,

500
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,280
S2: he ain't going to do it for me. I can't

501
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,439
S2: trust him to do that thing.

502
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,840
S5: Yeah. I want to give you, um, a hot tip

503
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,639
S5: on prayer that I think will begin to cultivate in

504
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,420
S5: you a belief that God hears our prayers. and it

505
00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:26,180
S5: is so simple. And it begins not with stuff out

506
00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:29,100
S5: there and all the things that are going on in

507
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:33,020
S5: our day, but it begins with something in here, in me,

508
00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:38,060
S5: in you. And so yesterday I had a phenomenal conversation

509
00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:41,300
S5: with this kid, 26 years old. I found out, and

510
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:46,139
S5: he's brilliant. And he was raised in church and he said,

511
00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:49,940
S5: I never really did anything wrong. He was. He's like,

512
00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:52,260
S5: could have been your cousin Ali. I mean, come on.

513
00:25:54,859 --> 00:25:58,300
S5: Always kind of going in the flow with what his

514
00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:01,820
S5: parents had raised him in. And he came to authentic faith,

515
00:26:02,060 --> 00:26:05,900
S5: probably in his late teens, somewhere along that line where

516
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:09,379
S5: he realized, man, I need a savior. I gotta repent

517
00:26:09,380 --> 00:26:12,780
S5: of my sin. And he's been just kind of rolling

518
00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:19,119
S5: along and just pretty by the book kind of kid. Well, I,

519
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,640
S5: I've been going through this personal discipline that I talk

520
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,439
S5: a lot around about, around here. And it's this early

521
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,640
S5: morning rising up and just praying. The last two verses

522
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,199
S5: of Psalm 139 and that is, O God, search me.

523
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,280
S5: Depending on the translation, search me, know me, try me.

524
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,639
S5: See if there God is any hurtful way in me.

525
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,199
S5: And David prayed, lead me in the way everlasting. Now

526
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,840
S5: this is why this is so powerful. Because the Holy Spirit,

527
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,560
S5: according to John 14, John 16, Romans eight three phenomenal chapters.

528
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,440
S5: If you want to look at this in depth and

529
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,280
S5: you know, not even a lot of words, but it's

530
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,359
S5: right there. The Holy Spirit, Jesus said, would come to

531
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,120
S5: his disciples, and it's to your advantage that he come

532
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,800
S5: because he's going to guide you into all truth. He

533
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,760
S5: also said, the Holy Spirit is the comforter. Well, that's

534
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,320
S5: very personal. And the Holy Spirit's going to convict the world,

535
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,700
S5: including us as individuals, regarding sin, righteousness, and judgment. So

536
00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:25,180
S5: I have this contention that the most powerful five minutes

537
00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:28,219
S5: of your life are rising early with a cup of

538
00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:31,940
S5: coffee and just praying. And either that prayer right off

539
00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:34,980
S5: the pages of Scripture, or a variation thereof that just

540
00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:38,580
S5: gets up in the morning and says, God, would you

541
00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:42,620
S5: look at my heart? And it's an admission that we

542
00:27:42,660 --> 00:27:46,180
S5: are like David, that, oh God, would you search me,

543
00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:48,459
S5: know me, and try me and see if there be

544
00:27:48,460 --> 00:27:52,179
S5: any hurtful way in me? And this prayer indicates something.

545
00:27:52,460 --> 00:27:58,660
S5: It indicates that we don't see ourselves rightly. Isn't that something?

546
00:27:58,660 --> 00:28:01,780
S6: We do not. And we think that we do. But

547
00:28:01,820 --> 00:28:05,580
S6: it's impossible for us to kind of parse out our

548
00:28:05,619 --> 00:28:09,820
S6: own motives and our thoughts. And I mean, we can

549
00:28:09,820 --> 00:28:12,020
S6: see our actions, but sometimes we don't even understand why

550
00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:13,140
S6: we do what we do.

551
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,080
S5: Spot on, Ali. We don't we don't we don't head

552
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,280
S5: into the day seeing ourselves rightly. And the advantage of

553
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,600
S5: asking God to come into that moment, as I have found,

554
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,440
S5: is that the Lord will do a quick review of

555
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,399
S5: the day before, or your current thoughts, or where you're

556
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,080
S5: headed for that day, and those five minutes of saying,

557
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,800
S5: search me, know me, try me. Here's what I want

558
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,040
S5: to promise you. If you are born again and filled

559
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:50,520
S5: with the Holy Spirit, and if you come not perfunctorily saying, okay, God,

560
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,600
S5: search me, know me, try me. Yeah, but you quiet

561
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,000
S5: your heart and in humility you say, speak to me.

562
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:03,080
S5: I am absolutely convinced, based on experience, that the Holy

563
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,959
S5: Spirit will give it to you straight up things that

564
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,080
S5: you're tracking on, things that need to be adjusted, things

565
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,630
S5: that need to change behaviors that need to be modified

566
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:19,670
S5: by the power of the spirit it has. Here's the

567
00:29:19,710 --> 00:29:23,270
S5: here's the crazy part. Ali. It has never failed me

568
00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:26,830
S5: when my first prayer is God, search me, know me,

569
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:31,390
S5: try me, God shows me. How sweet is that?

570
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:33,870
S6: Do you feel like you always get a sense right away?

571
00:29:33,910 --> 00:29:35,830
S6: Do you feel like that's a prayer that's answered right away?

572
00:29:35,870 --> 00:29:38,070
S6: Or is it sometimes a delayed thing.

573
00:29:38,670 --> 00:29:43,590
S5: Immediately revolving around a couple of things? The relationships closest

574
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:48,870
S5: to me my bride, my adult kids, uh, the church,

575
00:29:49,150 --> 00:29:53,470
S5: my team here. You. God shows me things about how

576
00:29:53,470 --> 00:29:57,510
S5: I interact with Ali. Isn't that cool? Huh? God shows

577
00:29:57,510 --> 00:30:00,630
S5: me things about how I interact with Young Thunder and Suradi.

578
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:04,110
S5: And she's on a well-deserved R&R here for a few days,

579
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:10,550
S5: and it's. It's never failed. Now, when I begin to

580
00:30:10,550 --> 00:30:15,010
S5: ask with some more clarity about things that are unknown

581
00:30:15,010 --> 00:30:20,650
S5: that involves other people's choices in life. Do I know

582
00:30:20,650 --> 00:30:22,650
S5: all of what's going to happen there when I offer

583
00:30:22,650 --> 00:30:25,850
S5: up those prayers? No. But what grows me in prayer

584
00:30:25,850 --> 00:30:30,250
S5: confidence is that I know that God hears my prayers

585
00:30:30,250 --> 00:30:33,730
S5: because the minute I say, search me, know me, try me,

586
00:30:33,730 --> 00:30:36,650
S5: and lead me in the way everlasting, the Spirit of

587
00:30:36,650 --> 00:30:38,610
S5: God reveals it to me. Ali.

588
00:30:38,690 --> 00:30:39,650
S6: It's beautiful.

589
00:30:39,690 --> 00:30:42,970
S2: I really feel like that's a prayer that he's never

590
00:30:42,970 --> 00:30:47,610
S2: gonna not answer with a yes. You know God. God

591
00:30:47,610 --> 00:30:50,530
S2: searched me. Reveal these things to me so that I

592
00:30:50,570 --> 00:30:53,170
S2: can become more like you. I feel like God's not

593
00:30:53,170 --> 00:30:56,130
S2: gonna be like, no, I'm not gonna answer that one

594
00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:58,210
S2: right now. I'm not gonna give you a yes right now. No.

595
00:30:58,250 --> 00:31:00,370
S2: He's like, yeah, I'll show you. I'll show you how

596
00:31:00,370 --> 00:31:01,450
S2: to become more like me.

597
00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:02,450
S14: Yeah.

598
00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:06,050
S5: And so I'm talking with his 26 year old, and

599
00:31:06,050 --> 00:31:09,970
S5: he says to me, the best thing I've been doing

600
00:31:09,970 --> 00:31:13,430
S5: in my relationship with God is I took what you

601
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:15,710
S5: said to us to heart, and I've been getting up

602
00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:18,870
S5: early and having five minutes, and sometimes it goes a

603
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:21,510
S5: little bit longer with the Lord asking him to search

604
00:31:21,550 --> 00:31:27,670
S5: me and Carl. He shows me what needs to change

605
00:31:27,670 --> 00:31:35,310
S5: in my life and I'm like, oh, hallelujah. So I

606
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:40,190
S5: don't know if you question the power of prayer or

607
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:44,870
S5: if you wonder, Does God hear me? If you take

608
00:31:44,910 --> 00:31:50,630
S5: the courageous move sometime this morning could be right now

609
00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:54,790
S5: to just say, Oh God, search me, know me, try me.

610
00:31:54,790 --> 00:31:58,710
S5: If you have been born again, God will reveal to

611
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:01,710
S5: you things in your life. Now you gotta come in

612
00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:03,150
S5: a posture of humility, right, Ali?

613
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:08,270
S6: Yes. Yeah. Because I'm sure sometimes what you see is not.

614
00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:11,650
S6: You're doing awesome in every area of your life. No

615
00:32:11,650 --> 00:32:12,850
S6: adjustments needed.

616
00:32:13,570 --> 00:32:19,450
S5: I you're not. Only are you right, I would say 95%

617
00:32:19,450 --> 00:32:23,650
S5: of what God shows me is not a bunch of attaboys,

618
00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:29,890
S5: but lovingly, with comfort. This great counselor for which that

619
00:32:29,890 --> 00:32:34,050
S5: is his name comes in and shows me things in

620
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:38,730
S5: my life that I would benefit. Head to an everlasting place,

621
00:32:38,770 --> 00:32:42,250
S5: a healthy place, if I make these adjustments in my

622
00:32:42,250 --> 00:32:44,570
S5: life and it's beautiful, then the ball's in my court

623
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:46,250
S5: to walk by the power of the spirit and do

624
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:46,970
S5: it or not.

625
00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:49,410
S6: So if you want to check out that passage, Psalm 139,

626
00:32:49,450 --> 00:32:51,850
S6: the last couple verses, right, is that 23 and 24.

627
00:32:51,890 --> 00:32:53,090
S5: 23 and 24?

628
00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:55,090
S6: Check it out and make that a part of your

629
00:32:55,090 --> 00:32:56,090
S6: morning today.

630
00:32:56,450 --> 00:32:56,890
S14: Yeah.

631
00:32:57,610 --> 00:33:01,330
S5: Yeah, if it can touch a kid that was raised

632
00:33:01,330 --> 00:33:05,930
S5: in church, knows all the ropes, surrendered to Jesus and

633
00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:10,280
S5: he says it's it's giving him an orientation spiritually like

634
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,880
S5: he hasn't had before. Could it be that God could

635
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,719
S5: do that? Here's my here's my premise. If we begin

636
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,360
S5: to see God here so distinctly, so clearly, our prayer

637
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,360
S5: and answer that prayer in those early minutes of the day,

638
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,480
S5: how much more does that fuel our belly, that God's

639
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,840
S5: hearing all of our prayers.

640
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760
S6: And it sets up that touch point to where then

641
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,200
S6: we're going to hear from him throughout the rest of

642
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,680
S6: the day.

643
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,520
S14: Yeah.

644
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,440
S5: Enjoy. Boom crew, get some time with God. Pray that prayer.

645
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,480
S5: Watch him move.

646
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,080
S1: He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then

647
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,600
S1: he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Colin

648
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,160
S1: crew on Moody Radio.

649
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,160
S5: So you look at spiritual leaders and you go, man,

650
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,880
S5: that gal, that guy.

651
00:33:59,400 --> 00:33:59,840
S14: Who.

652
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,680
S5: You look at and go, man, she was born with

653
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,860
S5: a silver spoon in her mouth. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And

654
00:34:06,860 --> 00:34:10,899
S5: I'm not talking financial. I'm talking spiritual legacy. Everything must

655
00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:13,819
S5: have been lined up perfect. I mean, otherwise, why would

656
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:16,700
S5: Ali be here? Right, Jonathan, we've thought that we've talked

657
00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:17,379
S5: behind her back.

658
00:34:17,420 --> 00:34:18,219
S2: I mean, we talk.

659
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:18,819
S6: All the time.

660
00:34:18,820 --> 00:34:20,540
S2: We talk right in front of her about it all

661
00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:24,500
S2: the time. I mean, she's probably perfect in every way.

662
00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:25,900
S2: She got sin out of her life.

663
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:27,580
S6: Why are we doing this? Because the rest of us

664
00:34:27,580 --> 00:34:29,540
S6: were born with a spoon in our mouth.

665
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:32,740
S5: Yeah. We had we had one of those nasty.

666
00:34:33,180 --> 00:34:33,620
S6: Spork.

667
00:34:35,540 --> 00:34:36,380
S2: Had a spork.

668
00:34:38,020 --> 00:34:39,260
S8: A spork.

669
00:34:39,660 --> 00:34:42,660
S2: That's good. I haven't heard spork in a long time.

670
00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:43,340
S6: Okay.

671
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:48,900
S5: Those things are funny, but they are really practical. Sporks

672
00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:52,340
S5: I don't know that anyone should even have a fork

673
00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:53,140
S5: and a spoon.

674
00:34:53,180 --> 00:34:53,580
S2: I don't.

675
00:34:53,660 --> 00:34:54,339
S5: Draw, I don't.

676
00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:58,100
S2: I don't know how practical sporks really are. What do you.

677
00:34:58,140 --> 00:34:59,300
S5: Are you are you kidding.

678
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,339
S2: Me? I mean, they're fine, but the spoon part has

679
00:35:01,340 --> 00:35:04,680
S2: to be smaller to account for the fork part. And

680
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,759
S2: so if you do use the spoon you got less

681
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,040
S2: on it.

682
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,000
S5: You want small little tines out the top. You want

683
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,960
S5: a big bowl in there for the butt. Spork is

684
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,399
S5: what I used on the Iditarod.

685
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,160
S6: Really?

686
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,359
S5: Yeah. Because you can't have too much stuff. You just

687
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,520
S5: have one utensil. You just dig in and go.

688
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,480
S6: Well, see, there you go. And I'm sold on it.

689
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,080
S2: Do they make.

690
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,080
S5: That at a girl alley?

691
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,640
S2: Do they make, like, nonplastic sporks? I feel like every

692
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,879
S2: spork that you get has to be plastic.

693
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,440
S5: Oh, no. No, you can get non-plastic sporks. I had

694
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,000
S5: them back in the day, and some of the time,

695
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,640
S5: sometimes they come with these Swiss army knives. Have you

696
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,440
S5: seen the knives that have everything, including the kitchen sink?

697
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,240
S5: They can do everything. Have you seen the ones that

698
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,040
S5: almost look like. In fact, the bigger they get, the

699
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,480
S5: cheaper they are, because they're kind of goofy. And somebody decided, well,

700
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:48,919
S5: let's put.

701
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:49,760
S2: A little kitschy.

702
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,319
S5: Yeah, yeah, let's put that on there. Have that one

703
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,680
S5: crank out. Let's get that nose trimmer on there too.

704
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,040
S5: Let's do that nose hair trimmer.

705
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,280
S2: This one has a nail clipper.

706
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:58,720
S6: So.

707
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,080
S4: Far.

708
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,360
S16: From where we started.

709
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,380
S5: I don't know how we got there, but we're gonna

710
00:36:03,420 --> 00:36:03,779
S5: reel it in.

711
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:05,780
S16: I think it was my fault. I'm so sorry.

712
00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:08,060
S6: Just now I'm looking up Sporks online.

713
00:36:09,739 --> 00:36:11,580
S2: Looking up online.

714
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:14,339
S6: They do have metal sporks for sale. I told.

715
00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:14,860
S16: You they.

716
00:36:14,860 --> 00:36:17,580
S6: Did. They even have ones that have a full spoon

717
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:20,380
S6: on one side, and the other side has a full fork.

718
00:36:20,380 --> 00:36:22,260
S6: So it's like you just hold that little piece.

719
00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:23,020
S2: Insane.

720
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:26,140
S6: And flip as needed. That's really.

721
00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:27,020
S5: Yeah, but you can.

722
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:29,979
S2: Can you imagine going to, like, a dinner party and

723
00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:31,980
S2: someone you sit down at the table and someone hands

724
00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:34,660
S2: that to you? What is this?

725
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:37,259
S6: You can eat your soup and your steak with the

726
00:36:37,260 --> 00:36:38,380
S6: same utensil.

727
00:36:38,580 --> 00:36:40,580
S5: I'm going to talk to my wife about getting sporks

728
00:36:40,580 --> 00:36:42,620
S5: instead of forks and spoons. What do you think she's

729
00:36:42,620 --> 00:36:43,260
S5: going to say?

730
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:43,660
S2: No.

731
00:36:43,739 --> 00:36:48,620
S6: I have a way to trim the budget in 2026.

732
00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:52,460
S5: Super diagnose my bride. She's just going to walk away.

733
00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:54,779
S5: She won't say a word. She'll be like, I'm not

734
00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:59,660
S5: even giving you any air. All right, so coming up here,

735
00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:02,850
S5: what I meant was a silver spoon in mouth is

736
00:37:02,850 --> 00:37:05,730
S5: how we started this. And a lot of us do think,

737
00:37:05,730 --> 00:37:08,529
S5: all joking aside. Oh boy, somebody's got a head start

738
00:37:08,570 --> 00:37:11,090
S5: on me. No no no no no no. The redeeming

739
00:37:11,090 --> 00:37:15,049
S5: power of God can change anyone. So we got a

740
00:37:15,050 --> 00:37:18,210
S5: man coming in here. High profile. You'd think, oh, man,

741
00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:20,089
S5: he must have had a great start. But what if

742
00:37:20,090 --> 00:37:23,530
S5: I told you his start was the redeeming power of God?

743
00:37:23,570 --> 00:37:26,370
S5: That took a broken home and a broken kid and

744
00:37:26,370 --> 00:37:28,650
S5: saved his life. Hang on.

745
00:37:28,890 --> 00:37:31,650
S1: She was trying to earn her way to God, but

746
00:37:31,650 --> 00:37:35,130
S1: God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in

747
00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:38,529
S1: the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

748
00:37:38,570 --> 00:37:41,690
S5: All right, so we begin with Tease and Ali. You

749
00:37:41,730 --> 00:37:43,930
S5: would think, yeah, man, she must had a silver spoon

750
00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:46,049
S5: in her mouth spiritually, man. Look at. I mean, she

751
00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:48,689
S5: just got started on the right track and everything's great.

752
00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:51,330
S5: And then we moved into spork. I don't know how

753
00:37:51,330 --> 00:37:55,170
S5: we got there, but a spoon and a fork. And

754
00:37:55,489 --> 00:37:57,529
S5: whether it's a spork or a spoon, you look at

755
00:37:57,530 --> 00:38:00,110
S5: a guy like this guy we're talking with right now

756
00:38:00,110 --> 00:38:03,310
S5: and you think, wow, he must had a great start.

757
00:38:03,350 --> 00:38:06,509
S5: I mean, he must have had this anchor man. I mean,

758
00:38:06,510 --> 00:38:10,109
S5: this firm foundation. His mom and dad must have been

759
00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:13,670
S5: rock solid with Jesus. You know what? Some stories prove

760
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:16,990
S5: that our God can change everything, right?

761
00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:19,310
S6: Yeah. We've got Jim Daly with us right now. He's

762
00:38:19,310 --> 00:38:23,230
S6: the president and chief executive officer of focus on the family,

763
00:38:23,230 --> 00:38:26,830
S6: well known international Christian organization. Tell us a little bit

764
00:38:26,830 --> 00:38:29,989
S6: about your story. Start from the beginning because you did

765
00:38:29,989 --> 00:38:32,669
S6: not have a silver spoon. You did not have what

766
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:36,670
S6: many would consider a any sort of a privileged childhood.

767
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:40,350
S17: No. Uh, and that's okay. Let me start there. That

768
00:38:40,350 --> 00:38:42,630
S17: God had a plan for me. I got a short

769
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:45,150
S17: stick to draw, but that's okay. You got to get

770
00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:46,790
S17: to the point where you say, Lord, if you want

771
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:48,790
S17: me to walk this, I will walk it. And that's

772
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:52,590
S17: the happy ending. But the beginning was tough, orphan kid.

773
00:38:52,590 --> 00:38:55,629
S17: My mom and dad divorced when I was five. She

774
00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:59,770
S17: remarried a horrible stepdad when I was eight. He was

775
00:38:59,770 --> 00:39:02,730
S17: really terrible. My mom died of cancer a year and

776
00:39:02,730 --> 00:39:04,770
S17: a half after they got married, so I was probably

777
00:39:04,770 --> 00:39:08,089
S17: nine and a half right around there. And, uh, the

778
00:39:08,090 --> 00:39:12,690
S17: day of her funeral, we got back, and Hank, our stepfather,

779
00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:15,130
S17: came out of the back bedroom with his bags packed

780
00:39:15,130 --> 00:39:17,730
S17: and said, you know, I can't take the stress. I'm

781
00:39:17,730 --> 00:39:21,130
S17: leaving and I'm nine years old going, what do I do?

782
00:39:21,489 --> 00:39:25,170
S17: And I ended up in foster care. Not a great situation. Uh,

783
00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:28,210
S17: a lot of turmoil in that foster care. In fact,

784
00:39:28,210 --> 00:39:30,770
S17: six months in, the social worker met us for the

785
00:39:30,770 --> 00:39:35,370
S17: first time. She was a wise woman, probably 25 years old,

786
00:39:35,730 --> 00:39:38,969
S17: and she came to assess our situation. And she looked

787
00:39:38,969 --> 00:39:41,050
S17: at me and said, you know, we got a problem.

788
00:39:41,050 --> 00:39:43,810
S17: And I thought to myself, wow, an adult that actually

789
00:39:43,810 --> 00:39:45,930
S17: sees what's real. I thought I was the only one

790
00:39:45,930 --> 00:39:48,850
S17: that could see it. And she looked at me and said, well, Mr.

791
00:39:48,850 --> 00:39:51,730
S17: Real said, you tried to kill him, and she's looking

792
00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:54,330
S17: at me and I'm like, how? Well, he said, you

793
00:39:54,330 --> 00:39:56,790
S17: tried to push him off a cliff. And I said, well,

794
00:39:56,790 --> 00:40:00,550
S17: we we live in Morongo Valley. I'm in fourth grade

795
00:40:00,550 --> 00:40:03,629
S17: dealing with that. Oh, and, uh, you know, the thing

796
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:06,550
S17: rolls on. I was there a year my bio dad

797
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:10,190
S17: reconnected with us. He was still dealing with alcoholism, but

798
00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:12,950
S17: my sister and I moved in with him. And then

799
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:16,190
S17: I lived there a year. My sister turned 18. I

800
00:40:16,190 --> 00:40:19,270
S17: was probably 11, and I had to tell him that

801
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:21,910
S17: I didn't want to live with him anymore. My siblings

802
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:23,870
S17: thought that would be best, so I moved in with

803
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:27,590
S17: my brother, who had just married his 16 year old

804
00:40:27,590 --> 00:40:30,790
S17: pregnant girlfriend. So that was the household. I remember saying

805
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:32,230
S17: to her, what do I, what do I call you?

806
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,509
S17: And she looked at me and said, well, you can

807
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:36,109
S17: call me mom. And I'm thinking, I'm closer to your

808
00:40:36,110 --> 00:40:39,430
S17: age than my brother. Oh, so that, you know, I

809
00:40:39,469 --> 00:40:42,990
S17: guess it just shows the chaos of what family is now.

810
00:40:43,230 --> 00:40:46,790
S17: And many people experience some portion of that. And I

811
00:40:46,830 --> 00:40:48,590
S17: you know, the good news was I had a great

812
00:40:48,590 --> 00:40:51,830
S17: football coach, Paul Morrow. He passed away not long ago,

813
00:40:51,830 --> 00:40:54,390
S17: and he took me under his wing and took me

814
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:57,810
S17: to a Fellowship of Christian Athletes camp. And this guy

815
00:40:57,850 --> 00:41:00,089
S17: got down there. I think he was the backup quarterback

816
00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:03,130
S17: at that time for the San Diego Chargers. Can't remember

817
00:41:03,130 --> 00:41:05,609
S17: his name, but he said, have men let you down?

818
00:41:05,610 --> 00:41:08,609
S17: Has your father let you down? Has your stepfather let

819
00:41:08,610 --> 00:41:09,050
S17: you down?

820
00:41:09,090 --> 00:41:10,009
S5: Check, check.

821
00:41:10,489 --> 00:41:13,290
S17: This is crazy. And so, you know, I ended up

822
00:41:13,290 --> 00:41:15,810
S17: giving my life to the Lord at 15, but I wobbled.

823
00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:18,690
S17: And I'm just grateful. The Lord never gave up on me.

824
00:41:18,690 --> 00:41:21,690
S17: And thankfully, I never gave up on him, man.

825
00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:24,009
S5: Jim Daly, our guest right now. Take us back there.

826
00:41:24,010 --> 00:41:27,129
S5: Were you a kid that was storing explosives, stuffing all

827
00:41:27,130 --> 00:41:30,370
S5: this stuff, or were you emoting? How were you processing

828
00:41:30,370 --> 00:41:31,450
S5: all that chaos?

829
00:41:31,969 --> 00:41:34,250
S17: You know, this is one of the toughest questions. Because

830
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:37,610
S17: when I speak and give my testimony, people, men particularly,

831
00:41:37,610 --> 00:41:40,690
S17: will stand afterward and talk with me one on one.

832
00:41:40,690 --> 00:41:43,370
S17: And it's, you know, 40, 50, 60 year old men

833
00:41:43,410 --> 00:41:46,090
S17: who are in tears and they're going, I've never been

834
00:41:46,090 --> 00:41:50,130
S17: able to forgive my father. And I don't know, I

835
00:41:50,170 --> 00:41:52,970
S17: guess it's the grace of God I just never had.

836
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,200
S17: I just felt like everybody's got trouble in this life.

837
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,600
S17: And that's even as a ten, 11 year old. That's

838
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,719
S17: how I saw my dad. He couldn't hold it together.

839
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,680
S17: And I think the key was I never felt ownership

840
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,880
S17: for my father's bad decisions. Wow. And that's one of

841
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,640
S17: the things, you know, so many psychologists would say is

842
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,800
S17: the kids take the guilt of those decisions, poor decisions

843
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,880
S17: of their parents. And I just had the grace of

844
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,600
S17: God to be able to understand that that's this is

845
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,000
S17: his life, and I've got my life. And I'll tell you,

846
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,480
S17: one of the profound things I learned was saying to

847
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,600
S17: myself at that age, I want to be a better dad.

848
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,440
S17: And I think you know what makes me cry?

849
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:38,760
S5: Jim.

850
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,440
S17: Well, the thing that hits me, my two boys, 25

851
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,080
S17: and 23. And when we tip into a discussion like this,

852
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,600
S17: they're like, dad, you are the best dad we could

853
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,200
S17: ever have. And, you know, I was just conscious of

854
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:56,180
S17: not breaking my promises. Spending time with them. Being present

855
00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:59,100
S17: with them. I never let my workload at focus come

856
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,980
S17: home with me. So we did a lot of fun things.

857
00:43:01,980 --> 00:43:05,140
S17: We laughed a lot, and to me, I could look

858
00:43:05,140 --> 00:43:07,740
S17: at this position of focus and say, look what I achieved.

859
00:43:07,739 --> 00:43:10,379
S17: I could care less what counted most. I mean, I'd

860
00:43:10,380 --> 00:43:13,220
S17: go meet with presidents and senators. What I loved was

861
00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:16,100
S17: coming home in the driveway and having my boys when

862
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:18,140
S17: they were young, come out and hug my legs, and

863
00:43:18,140 --> 00:43:22,060
S17: I'd walk in monster style and yes, and we'd play

864
00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:24,820
S17: and giggle and tickle and, you know, all the fun stuff.

865
00:43:24,820 --> 00:43:28,100
S17: That was the highlight of my day. Not meeting a president.

866
00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:30,780
S6: Wow. Jim Daley, our guest right now, president and CEO

867
00:43:30,780 --> 00:43:33,419
S6: of focus on the family. If you're not familiar with

868
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:37,540
S6: this ministry, global Christian ministry dedicated to helping families thrive.

869
00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:40,180
S6: I mean, you must have such a passion for what

870
00:43:40,180 --> 00:43:42,020
S6: you get to do. I mean, your focus on the

871
00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:47,380
S6: family helps build healthy marriages, helps parents grounded in biblical principles.

872
00:43:47,540 --> 00:43:50,240
S6: None of this was modeled for you Are you necessarily?

873
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,920
S6: And that many people feel like that, like they did

874
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,200
S6: not get this modeled, but yet we can by the

875
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,040
S6: power of Christ, we can live a different story. Talk

876
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,480
S6: a little bit about the mission and the heart behind

877
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,480
S6: what you get to do.

878
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,240
S17: You know, it starts with arrogance. I came here after

879
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,319
S17: working in the business world. I did my MBA international paper.

880
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
S17: I was moving up in the chain of command, and

881
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,160
S17: my wife and I, she was going to UC Davis

882
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,239
S17: as a Pre-vet major, which is be careful there. If

883
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,440
S17: you if you don't get into vet school, you go

884
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,920
S17: to med school. Just think about that for a minute.

885
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:24,960
S17: But anyway.

886
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,680
S5: Okay. That's that's something.

887
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:32,960
S17: Yeah, yeah. Just check that certificate out on your doctor's wall. But, uh, anyway,

888
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,839
S17: so we, you know, we pulled in, we got the

889
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,239
S17: job at focus, we applied. It was a it was

890
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,360
S17: a real reduction in salary and all that. But Gene

891
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,560
S17: and I drove up, and this is the arrogance part.

892
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,799
S17: We drove up here in Pomona actually when focus was

893
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,600
S17: still out there, and Gene and I went, let's give

894
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,739
S17: this a year or two like a missions trip. So,

895
00:44:50,780 --> 00:44:53,779
S17: I mean, I'm sure in God's ears he's hearing, oh,

896
00:44:53,820 --> 00:44:55,819
S17: isn't that nice that Jim and Jean are going to

897
00:44:55,820 --> 00:44:59,060
S17: give me two years of their life? Do they know

898
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:01,939
S17: what's going to happen? So we weren't in this for

899
00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:03,819
S17: the long haul. We were just going to go back

900
00:45:03,820 --> 00:45:06,540
S17: into the business world and make enough money to get

901
00:45:06,540 --> 00:45:08,259
S17: a house and start a family and do all the

902
00:45:08,260 --> 00:45:11,060
S17: normal things. But it just kept rolling here. You know,

903
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:13,900
S17: Doctor Dobson, I worked with him for 16 years before

904
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:17,819
S17: he asked me to be president in 2005. But that

905
00:45:17,820 --> 00:45:21,299
S17: mission comment that you made, Ali, is so critical. Um,

906
00:45:21,340 --> 00:45:23,980
S17: you know, I was selling paper at International Paper, and

907
00:45:23,980 --> 00:45:26,219
S17: I thought to myself, that's a good thing. You can

908
00:45:26,219 --> 00:45:29,540
S17: be a witness for Christ no matter what you do.

909
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:32,859
S17: So it doesn't diminish anybody's vocation. But when you get

910
00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:37,299
S17: that special call man, do it unto the Lord, as

911
00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:39,900
S17: we all should be doing. But for me to match

912
00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:44,820
S17: that pain with this passion was a gift from the Lord,

913
00:45:45,260 --> 00:45:47,410
S17: that he allowed me to come in here and be

914
00:45:47,410 --> 00:45:50,530
S17: a part of something that is saving people's lives every day,

915
00:45:50,770 --> 00:45:53,330
S17: in all kinds of ways. I mean, we've had over

916
00:45:53,330 --> 00:45:59,290
S17: 550,000 babies saved through an ultrasound that's equipping those clinics

917
00:45:59,290 --> 00:46:02,090
S17: with ultrasound. I think we were the first one in

918
00:46:02,130 --> 00:46:06,290
S17: that area 20 years ago, 22 years ago. So, you know,

919
00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:09,330
S17: it's just a thrill. Adventures in Odyssey, which we're releasing

920
00:46:09,330 --> 00:46:12,529
S17: a movie in September, October. It's going to be in

921
00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:16,009
S17: theaters around the country. Um, and we're looking forward to that.

922
00:46:16,010 --> 00:46:19,250
S17: But just yesterday we had a chapel speaker and she

923
00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:22,689
S17: was saying she was aborted but survived. Grew up in

924
00:46:22,690 --> 00:46:26,570
S17: terrible poverty, horrible situation in and out of foster care.

925
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S17: And she said Odyssey Adventures in Odyssey is what gave

926
00:46:30,290 --> 00:46:34,650
S17: her that spiritual underpinning to later become a Christian. That's

927
00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:34,969
S17: a good.

928
00:46:35,010 --> 00:46:37,730
S5: Mission, speaker. Yeah. It's killer. Yeah. It's amazing.

929
00:46:37,850 --> 00:46:38,530
S17: Just yesterday.

930
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S5: Uh, Jim Daly, our guest right now, president and CEO

931
00:46:42,210 --> 00:46:46,270
S5: of focus on the family. And a radically committed Jesus follower,

932
00:46:46,270 --> 00:46:49,950
S5: and all it proves is God's unmerited favor and his

933
00:46:49,950 --> 00:46:53,430
S5: unparalleled power can be deposited in the heart of anyone

934
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:56,150
S5: who would open it to the Lord. Coming up here, Jim,

935
00:46:56,430 --> 00:47:00,910
S5: family man, things are changing quickly. Want to get an

936
00:47:00,910 --> 00:47:04,069
S5: overview of that and a podcast that our man, Jim

937
00:47:04,070 --> 00:47:07,230
S5: Daly has all that content straight ahead. Boom crew. Hang on.

938
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:12,150
S1: Standing on the rock each and every day. You're listening

939
00:47:12,190 --> 00:47:13,390
S1: to Carl and crew.

940
00:47:13,710 --> 00:47:16,350
S5: So when you taste the grace of God.

941
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:16,750
S8: Who?

942
00:47:16,910 --> 00:47:19,549
S5: Katy bar the door because you want others to get it.

943
00:47:19,550 --> 00:47:22,670
S5: And that's our man right now. Jim. Daly. Uh, focus

944
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:24,870
S5: on the family. You guys have been in the trenches.

945
00:47:24,910 --> 00:47:30,550
S5: Adventures in Odyssey movie coming out. Uh, but, boy, the family,

946
00:47:30,590 --> 00:47:34,630
S5: it's changed. Man. It's Overton's window. I don't even know

947
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:37,310
S5: how to put words to it. Jim, what are you seeing?

948
00:47:37,310 --> 00:47:40,310
S5: Shifting radically with regard to the family and how are

949
00:47:40,310 --> 00:47:41,310
S5: you addressing it?

950
00:47:42,070 --> 00:47:45,370
S17: You know, one of the things We have counselors here

951
00:47:45,370 --> 00:47:47,009
S17: at focus on the family. So at the end of

952
00:47:47,010 --> 00:47:49,609
S17: the focus broadcast or many of the podcasts we do,

953
00:47:49,650 --> 00:47:52,450
S17: we give an invitation for people to call those counselors.

954
00:47:52,450 --> 00:47:56,730
S17: They do, you know, 1100, 1500 calls a month. And

955
00:47:56,730 --> 00:47:59,969
S17: these are, you know, 30, 60 minute calls. They're a

956
00:47:59,969 --> 00:48:03,130
S17: full on counseling call, and they're all state licensed counselors.

957
00:48:03,530 --> 00:48:06,930
S17: They're trying to help somebody go deeper and understand better

958
00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:09,370
S17: the dilemma they might be in and the way out

959
00:48:09,370 --> 00:48:12,529
S17: the biblical path to get out. So even for your listeners, man,

960
00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:15,490
S17: if anybody needs help in that way, just call. It's free.

961
00:48:15,850 --> 00:48:18,969
S17: You know, the donors underwrite that. So in that context,

962
00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:23,250
S17: we watch those themes. And for many years LGBT issues

963
00:48:23,250 --> 00:48:27,610
S17: were at or near the top, which seemed so disproportionate

964
00:48:27,610 --> 00:48:31,170
S17: for generally a Christian community. Right. But it tended to

965
00:48:31,170 --> 00:48:33,529
S17: be around like grandparents who were calling and saying, we

966
00:48:33,530 --> 00:48:36,290
S17: can't see our grandson unless we put him in a dress.

967
00:48:36,330 --> 00:48:39,170
S17: Our adult children won't let him come to our house.

968
00:48:39,530 --> 00:48:42,469
S17: I mean, what's the biblical answer to that? And so

969
00:48:42,510 --> 00:48:45,830
S17: our counselors are, you know, trying to help these grandparents

970
00:48:45,830 --> 00:48:49,310
S17: or parents deal with the fallout of what's happening in

971
00:48:49,310 --> 00:48:52,069
S17: the culture right now. I would only say if just

972
00:48:52,070 --> 00:48:54,750
S17: in the last week, David Brooks, his piece in the

973
00:48:54,750 --> 00:48:58,430
S17: New York Times Heritage with their new release of hey,

974
00:48:58,469 --> 00:49:01,550
S17: Guess What, the family is the most critical thing we

975
00:49:01,550 --> 00:49:05,150
S17: should be working on. Uh, Erica Kirk at the memorial

976
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:08,509
S17: for Charlie Kirk saying if he ever became president, he

977
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:11,390
S17: said his number one mission would be to strengthen the

978
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S17: American family. So there is a choir now that is

979
00:49:15,630 --> 00:49:18,989
S17: rising to say we see the data. And when you

980
00:49:18,989 --> 00:49:24,110
S17: look at all the social science, broken families create broken culture,

981
00:49:24,110 --> 00:49:26,870
S17: and we're living in it right now. So we could

982
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:30,390
S17: talk about all the, you know, effects of that. But basically,

983
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:33,870
S17: the bottom line is children do best in a loving

984
00:49:34,070 --> 00:49:38,110
S17: two parent mom and dad family. That's where they statistically

985
00:49:38,110 --> 00:49:40,890
S17: do best. Does that mean everybody's going to do well? No,

986
00:49:41,130 --> 00:49:45,730
S17: it's just the best arrangement for children to thrive. And

987
00:49:45,770 --> 00:49:48,049
S17: you know, I overcame it. So it's possible I don't

988
00:49:48,050 --> 00:49:52,089
S17: want single parent moms to go. There's no hope. There is. God.

989
00:49:52,090 --> 00:49:55,450
S17: That's the hope. He can take care of those wounds.

990
00:49:55,690 --> 00:49:58,649
S17: But man, why start in a deficit? Let's work on

991
00:49:58,650 --> 00:50:03,049
S17: our marriages. Let's strengthen our marriages, especially in the Christian community.

992
00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:06,570
S17: And I think the culture and the the whole country

993
00:50:06,570 --> 00:50:07,930
S17: will be better off for it.

994
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S6: Jim Daly, our guest right now from focus on the family.

995
00:50:10,370 --> 00:50:12,489
S6: We know, you know, we say often around here that

996
00:50:12,489 --> 00:50:16,130
S6: all truth is God's truth. So when you say something like, statistically,

997
00:50:16,130 --> 00:50:18,810
S6: children just do better with a mom and a dad

998
00:50:18,810 --> 00:50:21,330
S6: who are married, who live in the same house, that

999
00:50:21,330 --> 00:50:25,650
S6: almost is offensive to people because it sounds like very Christian,

1000
00:50:26,050 --> 00:50:29,370
S6: and it is because it's God's truth. How do we

1001
00:50:29,370 --> 00:50:32,450
S6: live in a culture where we live out our faith

1002
00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:35,089
S6: and our values in a way that is winsome, in

1003
00:50:35,090 --> 00:50:39,160
S6: a culture that's becoming increasingly hostile to the Christian worldview

1004
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:44,040
S6: without getting caught up in culture wars of tangential issues

1005
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,200
S6: that aren't the main thing. How do we keep the

1006
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,560
S6: main thing, the main thing?

1007
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,520
S17: A biblical thought that I have been just thinking about

1008
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,239
S17: for a few years now, really? Is Jesus in front

1009
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,839
S17: of Pontius Pilate? Think of Pontius Pilate. It may have

1010
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,359
S17: been a gold laden bowl. The water he washed his

1011
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,240
S17: hands in and said, you know, I'm washing my hands

1012
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:09,920
S17: of this. And Jesus is standing in front of him, beaten, scourged,

1013
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,400
S17: about to go to the cross. And you think about this,

1014
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,719
S17: and the Lord knows in 400 years the Roman Empire

1015
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,239
S17: is gone. He knows that. And yet he doesn't say anything.

1016
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,240
S17: He doesn't say, yeah, well, you know what, Pontius? Your

1017
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,640
S17: whole thing is coming down. And be sure to tell

1018
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,840
S17: Caesar I'll make sure he doesn't have that confrontational viewpoint.

1019
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,080
S17: And I think it's a bit of an indication for us.

1020
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,439
S17: And what I mean by that is we've got to

1021
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,420
S17: speak truth. You know, there in the Roman Empire, that's

1022
00:51:39,460 --> 00:51:43,219
S17: a dictatorship. It's Caesar. And what Caesar says, we have

1023
00:51:43,219 --> 00:51:47,620
S17: the benefit of living in a democratic republic. We can vote,

1024
00:51:47,620 --> 00:51:51,580
S17: we can persuade. We can ask people to consider the

1025
00:51:51,580 --> 00:51:54,180
S17: ways and the people that they want in office. To

1026
00:51:54,219 --> 00:51:58,219
S17: your point, what is good and what is useful in

1027
00:51:58,260 --> 00:52:01,219
S17: how we construct a culture? And I believe, I think

1028
00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:03,940
S17: as you believe, Christian values are the way to go,

1029
00:52:03,980 --> 00:52:06,980
S17: you know, a loving mom and dad, and it produces

1030
00:52:06,980 --> 00:52:10,020
S17: healthy children and they grow up and they do the same.

1031
00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:13,259
S17: And we have a productive culture. So I think the

1032
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:17,740
S17: answer to the question is don't take the bait. Like

1033
00:52:17,780 --> 00:52:22,660
S17: Jesus didn't take Pontius Bait to get into that discussion.

1034
00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:27,339
S17: But we have influence. We can exercise that influence. We

1035
00:52:27,340 --> 00:52:30,819
S17: should vote. We can be engaged, talk to people. The

1036
00:52:30,820 --> 00:52:33,860
S17: one thing that I have found is if you're just silent,

1037
00:52:33,860 --> 00:52:36,359
S17: if they have shamed you into a place of not

1038
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,520
S17: saying anything. It's hard for the Lord to put wind

1039
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,279
S17: in that sail. You've got to be moving. You got

1040
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,880
S17: to be talking with people willing to talk to people.

1041
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,839
S17: But here's the key. Don't go out of your way

1042
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,160
S17: to be hated. Let the scripture do that. I mean,

1043
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,920
S17: we in the Christian community just have a great skill

1044
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,200
S17: set of being obnoxious at times. Yeah. And I don't

1045
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,439
S17: see that in the scripture anyway. In fact, it talks

1046
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,120
S17: about speaking to the world with grace, with truth, but

1047
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,719
S17: being generous of spirit. Those kinds of things. Yeah. I

1048
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,680
S17: remember speaking at a book signing for refocus, which is

1049
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,839
S17: the name of the podcast, and a gay activist was there.

1050
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,320
S17: It was at a liberal bookstore here in Colorado Springs,

1051
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,600
S17: and this guy put his hand up. After I presented.

1052
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,719
S17: He said, you know, when are the Christians going to

1053
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,719
S17: get caught up to the 21st century and kind of

1054
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,480
S17: get up on, you know, ahead of your sexual ethics?

1055
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,920
S17: You're like antiquated people. I said, you know, that's really

1056
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,760
S17: kind of you to want to make me the editor

1057
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,280
S17: of the book, but I'm just a follower. I didn't

1058
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,979
S17: write it. I'm a Christian. I believe in Christ, and

1059
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:41,540
S17: I follow his system, his rules, his beliefs, his communication

1060
00:53:41,540 --> 00:53:44,660
S17: to us, his teaching. And I'm simply a follower. So

1061
00:53:44,660 --> 00:53:46,259
S17: you might want to take it up with him. And

1062
00:53:46,260 --> 00:53:47,980
S17: he sat down and said, Touche.

1063
00:53:48,140 --> 00:53:50,580
S5: Yeah. No, that's that's powerful. You know what? I want

1064
00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:52,379
S5: us to drill down one more second on this before

1065
00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:53,940
S5: we let you go. And then we got a keyword

1066
00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:58,340
S5: for you, boom crew. I did a post here recently

1067
00:53:58,340 --> 00:54:02,020
S5: that went somewhat viral, and I'm going to tell you

1068
00:54:02,020 --> 00:54:05,460
S5: what I had to spend my time doing with this post.

1069
00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:11,060
S5: And it's sad. I had to protect Christians from being stupid.

1070
00:54:11,940 --> 00:54:16,500
S5: I was blocking Christians who were, and I use this

1071
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:20,700
S5: term here. Angry evangelicals and angry evangelicals have never turned

1072
00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:23,899
S5: anyone on to Jesus. That's beautiful. What you just shared

1073
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:28,460
S5: about what Jesus did before Pilate and Paul before Agrippa.

1074
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:29,020
S17: Right?

1075
00:54:29,060 --> 00:54:33,569
S5: He didn't blast him. He brought conviction, but he was

1076
00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:36,490
S5: rather loving. I want you to put up a warning

1077
00:54:36,489 --> 00:54:40,649
S5: flag here, Jim. From your perspective, why angry evangelicalism ain't

1078
00:54:40,650 --> 00:54:42,210
S5: going to cut it going forward.

1079
00:54:43,050 --> 00:54:46,009
S17: It divides the heart. I mean, one thing I say

1080
00:54:46,010 --> 00:54:47,930
S17: when I give a speech in front of an audience

1081
00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:50,529
S17: is how many people here love the Lord? All the

1082
00:54:50,530 --> 00:54:53,890
S17: hands go up. I said, okay, now, how many of

1083
00:54:53,890 --> 00:54:56,529
S17: you came to Christ in this way? The person you

1084
00:54:56,530 --> 00:54:59,650
S17: were talking to before you were a Christian said, you

1085
00:54:59,650 --> 00:55:03,050
S17: know what? We don't like you. You don't follow the

1086
00:55:03,050 --> 00:55:06,650
S17: the patterns that make human flourishing the right way, the

1087
00:55:06,650 --> 00:55:10,770
S17: healthy way. You're anti-God. You're this, you're that. How many

1088
00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:14,370
S17: of you said, wow, I feel so hated by the Christians.

1089
00:55:14,370 --> 00:55:18,290
S17: I decided to become one of them. It doesn't happen

1090
00:55:18,290 --> 00:55:22,129
S17: that way. I've never had anybody ever. Everybody says it

1091
00:55:22,130 --> 00:55:26,290
S17: was their kindness. Those Christians that talked with me, they

1092
00:55:26,290 --> 00:55:28,730
S17: had this odd love for me, even though I didn't

1093
00:55:28,730 --> 00:55:31,630
S17: believe what they believed or I spit in their face,

1094
00:55:31,630 --> 00:55:34,469
S17: whatever it may have been. That's the power of God.

1095
00:55:34,510 --> 00:55:36,390
S17: And when you look at the world and you look

1096
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:39,750
S17: at our own hearts as human beings, I mean, when

1097
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:43,950
S17: you treat people with sincerity, with love, like God talked about,

1098
00:55:43,950 --> 00:55:46,830
S17: like the Lord talked about, he's written the DNA in

1099
00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:49,710
S17: our hearts spiritually. I think there's a secret code in

1100
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:53,549
S17: there that our hearts crack when people treat us kindly

1101
00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:57,589
S17: and lovingly. He's put it in us. And even some

1102
00:55:57,590 --> 00:56:02,589
S17: of the hardest LGBT people, or leftist people or anti-God people.

1103
00:56:02,590 --> 00:56:05,350
S17: I've been with them. I've seen it happen. I've seen

1104
00:56:05,350 --> 00:56:07,509
S17: them cry when they feel loved.

1105
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S6: Jim Daly, our guest. Focus on the family. If you

1106
00:56:10,070 --> 00:56:15,910
S6: want more text, focus to 805, 55, 78, 98, text

1107
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:20,390
S6: focus to 805, 55, 78, 98. We'll link you to

1108
00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:23,310
S6: that podcast and also give you the information for that

1109
00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:26,109
S6: counseling line that he mentioned is available through focus on

1110
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S6: the family. Just text focus to 805 55 7898.