WEBVTT - Hour 1: Bible Q & A with Mike Fabarez 0:00:08.810 --> 0:00:11.270 Well, do you have a question about the Bible? Do 0:00:11.270 --> 0:00:14.720 you ever wonder what we can know and understand about God? 0:00:14.870 --> 0:00:18.680 If so, you've come to the right place. Hello, friends. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.310 Welcome to Open Line with Doctor Michael Rydlewicz. He is 0:00:22.310 --> 0:00:27.560 moody Bible Institutes Brainiac, and this is Moody Radio's Bible 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.040 study across America. He knows his Bible. And when you 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.170 want to talk to him, you call our phone number, 0:00:33.170 --> 0:00:38.570 which is (877) 548-3675. But of course the voice is not 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:42.379 Doctor Michael Rinderknecht, I'm Mike Fabares, I'm sitting in for 0:00:42.380 --> 0:00:45.980 doctor Reed Melnick, who is on Moody Bible Institute's Trip 0:00:45.979 --> 0:00:49.820 of Paul's Journeys, which is an amazing trip around the Mediterranean. 0:00:49.820 --> 0:00:53.990 And it is a fantastic trip. And yet for doctor, doctor, 0:00:54.050 --> 0:00:56.210 doctor Reed Melnick, he's the teacher. So you need to 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.490 pray for him. Pray for him this morning because he's 0:00:58.490 --> 0:01:01.200 the he's the answer man. He's the instructor. He's the 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.900 one who has all the information and he's the one 0:01:03.900 --> 0:01:07.020 who makes that trip fantastic. So pray that God would 0:01:07.020 --> 0:01:09.419 use him on that trip. He'll be back next week. 0:01:09.420 --> 0:01:12.090 But today I'm coming to you live across many of 0:01:12.090 --> 0:01:15.930 these stations of Moody Radio, and we are, as he 0:01:15.930 --> 0:01:19.590 often says, sitting around the proverbial kitchen table talking about 0:01:19.590 --> 0:01:22.289 the Bible. Whatever it is that you might have as 0:01:22.290 --> 0:01:25.200 a question regarding the Bible, God, the Christian life, something 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.420 you're facing at church, in your family, whatever it is 0:01:27.420 --> 0:01:28.860 you want to think biblically about it, I'm going to 0:01:28.860 --> 0:01:31.590 do my best to help you. Mike Faber is is 0:01:31.590 --> 0:01:33.210 my name. As I said, I am the pastor of 0:01:33.209 --> 0:01:37.500 Compass Bible Church in Aliso Viejo, California. All also happened 0:01:37.500 --> 0:01:40.470 to be a graduate of Moody Bible Institute way back 0:01:40.470 --> 0:01:44.130 in the olden days. We had color photography back then, 0:01:44.130 --> 0:01:45.840 but it feels like the black and white days in 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.450 my memory. Way back in the 80s, I was there 0:01:48.450 --> 0:01:52.260 at Moody Bible Institute, and I'm also one of the 0:01:52.260 --> 0:01:55.170 preachers here on Moody Radio. You'll hear me on the 0:01:55.170 --> 0:01:58.510 Focal Point radio program. We're shifting around our times just 0:01:58.510 --> 0:02:01.330 the last couple of weeks. So look us up on 0:02:01.330 --> 0:02:05.380 the Moody radio.org website and you can find out when 0:02:05.380 --> 0:02:09.580 we air on your station. I'm the author of several books, 0:02:09.580 --> 0:02:13.120 but a couple from Moody Publications. And I'll tell you what, 0:02:13.150 --> 0:02:15.340 Moody Publishing is doing a great job in this last 0:02:15.340 --> 0:02:18.250 book that I wrote for them is called envy a 0:02:18.250 --> 0:02:20.200 Big Problem you didn't Know You had, and I just 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.630 wondered why they were bold enough to publish a book 0:02:22.630 --> 0:02:25.630 like that. And I'll tell you, I hope it's selling. 0:02:25.630 --> 0:02:28.870 I hope someone is buying it. Not because it's about money, 0:02:28.870 --> 0:02:30.970 because it isn't about that. It's about getting good materials 0:02:30.970 --> 0:02:34.690 in people's hands. But this particular book, I just thought, 0:02:34.690 --> 0:02:36.310 who's going to buy a book about sin? But I'll 0:02:36.310 --> 0:02:38.500 tell you what, if you're serious about your sanctification, you 0:02:38.500 --> 0:02:41.140 want to grow in your Christian life. I'll bet you 0:02:41.139 --> 0:02:43.990 haven't given much thought to envy. And if you have, 0:02:44.020 --> 0:02:45.850 you certainly need to buy the book. And if you haven't, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.490 we need to see how the insidious nature of envy 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.860 kind of creeps into all that is going on in 0:02:50.860 --> 0:02:53.470 our lives. Well, anyway, as I said, our phone number 0:02:53.470 --> 0:02:54.940 that you can call and you can get on the 0:02:54.940 --> 0:02:57.250 air with me today, Mike Faber is sitting in for 0:02:57.250 --> 0:03:00.519 Doctor Michael Riedel. Nick, you can ask me a question. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:01.810 All you have to do is pick up your phones 0:03:01.810 --> 0:03:10.840 and call me at 87754836758775483675. Or you could send your 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.769 question through our open line website. That's open line radio 0:03:14.770 --> 0:03:19.060 dot o r g open line radio.org. No spaces there. 0:03:19.060 --> 0:03:21.730 And just find that little form that says ask Michael 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.860 a question and you click on that and you can 0:03:23.860 --> 0:03:25.959 write in your question to us. That's a great way 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.390 to get Ahold of us here. Open line team we've 0:03:28.389 --> 0:03:31.390 got can't do this by myself. We've got Tierra who 0:03:31.389 --> 0:03:34.150 is our producer. We got Ryan there making all the 0:03:34.150 --> 0:03:36.490 dials work, making us sound good. And Anthony is the 0:03:36.490 --> 0:03:38.920 one you're going to talk to when you call us 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:43.150 at 877548, three six, seven five. And he'll get some 0:03:43.150 --> 0:03:45.550 information for you, and he'll put you here on this 0:03:45.550 --> 0:03:48.610 board and we will get to questions. So I hope 0:03:48.610 --> 0:03:51.820 you've got, as doctor Ray Delic likes to say, your 0:03:51.820 --> 0:03:54.640 cup of coffee or your orange juice or your cornflakes 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.330 or whatever it is you do in the morning to 0:03:56.330 --> 0:03:59.450 get your Saturday going and your Bible. That would be good, 0:03:59.450 --> 0:04:02.240 because we're going to study God's Word together and we're 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:03.710 just going to go straight to the phone. So let's 0:04:03.710 --> 0:04:08.690 go to Dan in Scottsdale, Arizona, uh, listening on Wmbi online, 0:04:08.690 --> 0:04:10.430 which is awesome, which you can always do. You can 0:04:10.430 --> 0:04:13.910 always listen to Moody through the website. But Dan, today 0:04:13.910 --> 0:04:16.040 you're on the air with Mike Fabares. How can I help? 0:04:17.570 --> 0:04:24.080 Okay. My question is, what does our daily bread mean? Well, 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:29.240 I thought it was three different things, like our food, 0:04:29.510 --> 0:04:32.809 our money, and the word of God. 0:04:34.100 --> 0:04:36.590 Okay, well, it can mean several things. I think when 0:04:36.589 --> 0:04:39.770 Jesus is teaching us to pray there in Matthew six, 0:04:39.770 --> 0:04:44.000 he's asking us to be reliant on God for all 0:04:44.029 --> 0:04:46.430 that we have. Right? As James chapter one says, every 0:04:46.430 --> 0:04:48.620 good thing. It comes from God. God is the giver 0:04:48.620 --> 0:04:50.690 of all good things. I think of John the Baptist, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.990 who says, a person can't receive even one thing unless 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.990 it's given to him from heaven. John 327 and so 0:04:57.990 --> 0:05:00.390 when Jesus says, give that we're supposed to pray, here's 0:05:00.390 --> 0:05:03.330 the model prayer. Give us this day our daily bread. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.960 He's wanting us in our prayer life to be asking God, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.710 showing our reliance upon God by asking for our daily provision. 0:05:10.710 --> 0:05:13.349 And of course, we need more than bread, right? But 0:05:13.350 --> 0:05:16.020 I do think that idea is we need whatever we 0:05:16.020 --> 0:05:18.300 need right to get through our day. We need to 0:05:18.330 --> 0:05:21.510 be asking the Lord for it. As one pastor once said, 0:05:21.540 --> 0:05:23.310 you know what? If we only had the things we 0:05:23.310 --> 0:05:26.099 asked for? We need to be thinking about our prayer 0:05:26.130 --> 0:05:29.730 life regarding our daily provisions. Now it's used elsewhere. Of course, 0:05:29.730 --> 0:05:32.940 Jesus calls himself the Bread of life, and He Himself 0:05:32.940 --> 0:05:36.930 is our sustenance eternally. And so it can mean several things. 0:05:36.930 --> 0:05:39.960 But in the context of when we normally quote it 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.380 daily bread, which is it's used in Matthew six and 0:05:43.380 --> 0:05:46.440 Luke 11 to describe our prayer life. It's just, it's 0:05:46.470 --> 0:05:52.229 it's just referring to our daily provisions. Dan, does that 0:05:52.230 --> 0:05:55.060 help you? I mean, there are several things that can mean. 0:05:55.089 --> 0:05:56.890 I mean, you and I can say we need the 0:05:56.890 --> 0:05:59.200 Word of God and it is like food to us. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:00.970 As Peter said, it's like our it's like a baby 0:06:00.970 --> 0:06:03.700 longing for milk. So I understand that it can be 0:06:03.700 --> 0:06:05.950 applied in different ways. But the phrase in the Bible, 0:06:05.950 --> 0:06:09.460 Daily Bread, which occurs one time, as I recall it, 0:06:09.460 --> 0:06:12.730 is all about our daily provisions. And we're supposed to 0:06:12.730 --> 0:06:14.859 be praying for that and showing our reliance upon the 0:06:14.860 --> 0:06:19.000 Lord because he's the giver of all good things. Dan, 0:06:19.029 --> 0:06:19.659 does that help? 0:06:19.690 --> 0:06:20.350 Thank you. 0:06:20.380 --> 0:06:23.260 Okay. All right. Let's go to Charlene now in Mississippi. 0:06:23.290 --> 0:06:25.720 You're on the air with Mike Fabares. How can I help? 0:06:26.410 --> 0:06:30.969 Thank you. I have a question concerning John. Chapter one, 0:06:30.970 --> 0:06:34.630 verse one. In the beginning was the word, and the 0:06:34.630 --> 0:06:38.680 word was with God, and the word was God. Please 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.010 focus on the phrase. The word was God. What does 0:06:42.010 --> 0:06:44.380 that mean in the Greek? And what does that mean? 0:06:44.710 --> 0:06:47.860 Well, the word, if you look down in this passage 0:06:47.860 --> 0:06:51.250 in verse 14, it says, the word became flesh and 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.790 dwelt among us. We have seen his glory, the glory 0:06:54.790 --> 0:06:57.880 of the only son from the father, full of grace 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.560 and truth. So first we have to define what the 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.460 word is, which in context is defined as God's Son, 0:07:03.490 --> 0:07:07.089 the second person of the Triune Godhead. And in the 0:07:07.089 --> 0:07:11.020 beginning of this, this prologue, here, it speaks of the word, 0:07:11.020 --> 0:07:13.840 the second person of the Godhead as being in the beginning, 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.600 which is the idea of of an eternal God. I mean, 0:07:16.630 --> 0:07:19.360 that's what the word Yahweh, the proper name of God, means. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.640 He is the I am, he was, he is, he 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.670 is to come. So the word right is defined that way. 0:07:24.670 --> 0:07:26.920 He was in the beginning. The word was with God. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.280 He's always been in fellowship with the triunity of God 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.650 and the word. Of course, the second person of the Godhead. 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.750 Though it was hard to see when he became flesh 0:07:34.750 --> 0:07:37.420 and dwelt among us, was in fact God in human form. 0:07:37.420 --> 0:07:40.660 As Paul said in Colossians, the fullness of deity dwelt 0:07:40.660 --> 0:07:43.600 in bodily form. So that's why I think that phrase 0:07:43.630 --> 0:07:47.110 is important. The word was God. And that's what we're 0:07:47.110 --> 0:07:49.239 just saying in a very poetic way. And of course, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:53.190 there are some Hellenistic and Greek philosophical overtones to the 0:07:53.190 --> 0:07:56.040 concept of word and a lot of commentaries. We'll talk 0:07:56.070 --> 0:07:59.010 about that. But the idea in this passage, as God 0:07:59.010 --> 0:08:01.920 is communicating to us, as it says in Hebrews chapter one, 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.440 he's spoken in many portions in many ways throughout the 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.750 Old Testament. But in these last days he has spoken 0:08:06.750 --> 0:08:09.390 to us in his Son. And as he comes early 0:08:09.420 --> 0:08:12.480 on and says, this is my beloved son, hear him, 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.300 listen to him. So we're supposed to learn from the 0:08:15.300 --> 0:08:18.150 Lord Jesus Christ, who is eventually, obviously going to die 0:08:18.150 --> 0:08:20.429 on a cross three and a half years after his 0:08:20.430 --> 0:08:23.100 public ministry begins, and he is going to take away 0:08:23.130 --> 0:08:25.740 our sin. But this is trying to establish him as 0:08:25.770 --> 0:08:30.600 eternally existing, eternally existing in fellowship with God, right? He 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.780 is God. That's how that last line is stated that 0:08:33.780 --> 0:08:37.079 he is God, that he is equal to co-equal. We 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.599 say in theology to God. So in the beginning was 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.699 the word. The word was with God, and the word 0:08:41.700 --> 0:08:44.520 was God. Are you still there? 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.729 Oh, yes, I was listening. Okay, okay. Because I have 0:08:47.730 --> 0:08:50.460 friends that said in the beginning was the word, and 0:08:50.460 --> 0:08:54.420 the word was with God. It says, ho theos the God. 0:08:54.420 --> 0:08:57.000 And then when it says the word was God, it's 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.480 just does not have a definite article in front of 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.030 the word God. So I wanted to know what was 0:09:03.030 --> 0:09:05.820 the difference between putting a definite article before the word 0:09:05.820 --> 0:09:09.420 God and not having a definite article before the word God. 0:09:09.690 --> 0:09:13.230 Okay, if you look at the last penultimate word, the 0:09:13.230 --> 0:09:16.260 second to last word in verse one, the word was, 0:09:16.260 --> 0:09:17.640 do you see that there the past tense of the 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.340 verb to be? When you have the verb to be 0:09:20.340 --> 0:09:22.020 in the Greek language, and anybody can tell you this, 0:09:22.020 --> 0:09:25.350 they take first year Greek grammar. You have to decide 0:09:25.350 --> 0:09:30.150 in in a sentence, syntactically, grammatically, what is the subject 0:09:30.150 --> 0:09:33.840 and what is the object. And to do that, to differentiate, 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.320 you use what's called an anaethetus noun. And that's what's 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.589 being said here. Is that the the object right is 0:09:40.590 --> 0:09:45.120 now without a, um, an article. So when it says 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.580 the word was God, right? The word gets the article 0:09:48.610 --> 0:09:51.700 because it's trying to say it's not. God was the word. 0:09:51.700 --> 0:09:54.220 We wouldn't know how to say it. Because like when 0:09:54.220 --> 0:09:57.100 you answer the phone and they say, is this Charlene? 0:09:57.100 --> 0:09:59.650 And you say, it is me, that's not good English, 0:09:59.650 --> 0:10:02.680 you should say it is I, because the case of 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.230 the noun is supposed to be in the subject case 0:10:05.230 --> 0:10:08.110 with the verb to be. It's like an equal sign. Well, 0:10:08.110 --> 0:10:12.309 if we don't know what the subject is, Greek distinguishes 0:10:12.309 --> 0:10:14.380 the two by putting the article in front of it. 0:10:14.380 --> 0:10:17.859 So the word right gets the article because it's showing 0:10:17.890 --> 0:10:20.770 that it is in the subject case, and because the 0:10:20.770 --> 0:10:23.110 object has to be in the subject case. In this case, 0:10:23.110 --> 0:10:25.360 Theos has to be in the subject case, it does 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.700 not get the article. And I can just show you 0:10:27.730 --> 0:10:30.220 throughout the book of John there are several times the 0:10:30.220 --> 0:10:33.550 word theos for various grammatical reasons. There's about six different 0:10:33.550 --> 0:10:36.160 reasons that you don't have the article. You have an 0:10:36.190 --> 0:10:39.730 antithesis word theos. And clearly we're talking about the one 0:10:39.730 --> 0:10:42.490 and only God. We're not talking about gods. There's no 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.490 mention of the plurality of a bunch of gods here 0:10:45.490 --> 0:10:48.040 in the book of John. There's obviously one theology in 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.300 John that there's one God. So this is a grammatical feature, 0:10:52.300 --> 0:10:55.420 and it indicates what how you're supposed to read the sentence. 0:10:55.420 --> 0:10:57.490 We wouldn't know how to read the sentence in Greek 0:10:57.490 --> 0:11:00.460 unless you had an article in front of one of 0:11:00.460 --> 0:11:03.160 those two nouns, because they're supposed to be both of 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.829 them in the subject case, and because in English we 0:11:05.830 --> 0:11:08.650 can just put the first one in the sentence to 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.719 say which one is the subject. Greek does not work 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.720 that way. Greek is not about word order as much 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.420 as it's about showing us by the case of the 0:11:16.450 --> 0:11:18.550 noun where it belongs in the sentence. Now that may 0:11:18.550 --> 0:11:21.520 sound technical, and I understand that that's a little technical, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.040 but that's the answer. And a Jehovah Witness with a 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.960 New World translation is going to say, no, this is 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.000 the word. Jesus was just one of the gods. He 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.250 wasn't really equal to God. Well, the whole book is 0:11:30.250 --> 0:11:33.880 about Jesus being equal to God. That's what it's all about. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.000 The son, though he didn't look like the second person 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.820 of the Godhead because he's in humility, taking on human 0:11:39.820 --> 0:11:42.490 flesh so that he might represent us on the cross. 0:11:42.610 --> 0:11:45.620 He certainly was. And everything about the Bible is consistent 0:11:45.620 --> 0:11:49.730 in saying Jesus is co-equal with the Eternal Father and 0:11:49.730 --> 0:11:52.490 he was God. So I know you've heard that, and 0:11:52.490 --> 0:11:54.020 I know Jehovah's Witnesses will come to your door and 0:11:54.020 --> 0:11:57.200 tell you that. But unfortunately, even the guys that translated 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.739 for the Jehovah's Witnesses, the New World Translation, they did 0:12:00.740 --> 0:12:03.620 not study Greek. They were two out of the three. 0:12:03.650 --> 0:12:05.689 I don't I don't even think took Greek classes. One 0:12:05.690 --> 0:12:08.660 took like an introductory class, and I think one of 0:12:08.660 --> 0:12:10.819 them bombed out of school. I forget, but they don't 0:12:10.850 --> 0:12:13.070 know the language. And so we trust the people that 0:12:13.070 --> 0:12:15.199 know the language. And I think anybody, after at least 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.100 two semesters of Koine Greek or first century Greek, they're 0:12:19.100 --> 0:12:20.660 going to tell you, of course, we don't have an 0:12:20.660 --> 0:12:23.179 article in front of God, but it doesn't mean that 0:12:23.179 --> 0:12:26.510 we're supposed to read it as a plural. Does that help? Charlene? 0:12:26.630 --> 0:12:30.800 Oh, yes. Yes, it helps me to understand that, um, 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:34.430 it's almost the now becomes almost an adjective. It describes 0:12:34.429 --> 0:12:39.230 what the word is. Correct. Right? Totally. God, he's totally godlike. 0:12:39.230 --> 0:12:42.949 He's fully God because God is saying to us without 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:47.520 the article is describing exactly who the word is. 0:12:47.550 --> 0:12:50.340 Correct. And if we didn't have if we had two, 0:12:50.370 --> 0:12:52.440 which is against the rules of Greek grammar, if we 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.830 had two articles, if it said the word and the god, 0:12:55.830 --> 0:12:59.069 we wouldn't know which one is supposed to be in 0:12:59.070 --> 0:13:02.610 the subject case in this phrase. And so that's why 0:13:02.610 --> 0:13:05.700 we have to have an article. And again, if you 0:13:05.700 --> 0:13:08.250 if you went through this and opened a Greek New Testament, 0:13:08.250 --> 0:13:11.520 you'd see there are plenty examples of an an arthurus 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.880 or a word theos without the article. And so that's 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.520 not unusual because there are several rules of grammar where 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.170 you do not put it in and it doesn't make 0:13:19.170 --> 0:13:23.700 it a plural. Okay, I hope that helps. Thank you 0:13:23.700 --> 0:13:28.740 so much for the call. And the number is (877) 548-3675. 0:13:28.740 --> 0:13:30.990 And I hate to say, but I've lost connection here 0:13:30.990 --> 0:13:33.270 with the studio, so I'm running blind. But if you've 0:13:33.270 --> 0:13:36.330 got a call for me there, Anthony, and to hear a, 0:13:36.330 --> 0:13:38.250 I guess we'll go to break. 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You know, um, uh, it seems like an apparent inconsistency. 0:15:46.190 --> 0:15:50.450 Reading revelation today, which I read 100,000 times, probably just 0:15:50.450 --> 0:15:55.220 popped out to me. Um, in the 14th chapter, 15 0:15:55.220 --> 0:16:00.290 through 17, John is talking about seeing an angel that, um, 0:16:01.070 --> 0:16:04.400 comes out of the temple, and he's saying various things. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.670 I think telling another angel to put the sickle into 0:16:07.670 --> 0:16:10.880 the earth. But then I remembered, I go over to 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:15.650 revelation 21, it's 2122 where John says, there is no 0:16:15.650 --> 0:16:22.070 temple right in heaven, that God is the because of God. 0:16:22.070 --> 0:16:24.860 You don't really need an actual temple, so it seems 0:16:24.860 --> 0:16:27.650 like a bit of an inconsistency there. What do you think? 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:28.190 Well, it's a. 0:16:28.190 --> 0:16:31.460 Play on words because in chapter 21, well, let's just 0:16:31.460 --> 0:16:33.410 go back to the concept of temple. Even in the 0:16:33.410 --> 0:16:36.500 book of Hebrews, the idea of an earthly temple like 0:16:36.500 --> 0:16:39.720 Solomon's temple or the tabernacle that Moses had built before 0:16:39.750 --> 0:16:44.160 that this is simply a representation of the heavenly realm. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.110 And the book of Hebrews talks about that. It's a 0:16:46.110 --> 0:16:50.370 reflection of the heavenly, the temple, the place where God lives. Okay. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:54.300 Now in revelation 21, we've gone through chapters six through 0:16:54.330 --> 0:16:57.390 19 where all this is playing out on earth, and 0:16:57.390 --> 0:17:00.030 this discussion about this heavenly temple here, angel coming out. 0:17:00.030 --> 0:17:03.060 That's fine. A temple in heaven. But here it says 0:17:03.060 --> 0:17:05.460 in verse two, the holy city, the New Jerusalem, coming 0:17:05.460 --> 0:17:08.070 down out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for 0:17:08.070 --> 0:17:11.310 her husband. Here it comes, the ultimate dwelling place of 0:17:11.310 --> 0:17:13.380 the righteous of those who have been made and declared 0:17:13.380 --> 0:17:15.570 righteous by Christ. I heard a loud voice from the 0:17:15.570 --> 0:17:18.869 throne saying, behold, here's the key phrase the dwelling place 0:17:18.869 --> 0:17:23.580 of God is with man, okay? He will dwell with them, 0:17:23.580 --> 0:17:26.189 and they will be his people, and God himself will 0:17:26.190 --> 0:17:29.220 be with them as their God. That idea right there, 0:17:29.250 --> 0:17:31.860 the concept of God dwelling. I mean, you can just 0:17:31.890 --> 0:17:34.830 equate that with the temple. God's dwelling place is the 0:17:34.830 --> 0:17:37.179 temple in heaven, right? That's where God is in the 0:17:37.180 --> 0:17:42.310 earthly construction of a building was an example of that. 0:17:42.310 --> 0:17:45.460 Here is where a representation in Solomon knew God wasn't 0:17:45.460 --> 0:17:47.860 going to live there, right? God, you know, too big. 0:17:47.890 --> 0:17:49.750 You can't contain him in a building. But here's a 0:17:49.750 --> 0:17:53.380 picture of the heavenly abode of God on earth in Jerusalem. 0:17:53.380 --> 0:17:56.110 But now the dwelling place, the temple of God, is 0:17:56.140 --> 0:17:59.290 with man. The temple right where he dwells is here 0:17:59.290 --> 0:18:02.919 among them. So yes, there's no temple anymore, because God 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.250 has come down to dwell with us on the new earth. 0:18:06.250 --> 0:18:10.570 And that city is itself because it's described as a cube. 0:18:10.570 --> 0:18:13.540 Later in this chapter, we understand that that is the 0:18:13.540 --> 0:18:17.740 representation of the cubed shape Holy of Holies. The very 0:18:17.740 --> 0:18:21.609 presence of God will be on earth and dwell among us. 0:18:21.609 --> 0:18:23.919 So the idea is it's sort of a play on 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:27.490 words to say there's no temple because the temple becomes earth. 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.160 Earth is where God is, and God is living here 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.800 now on earth with us. And I would say, though, 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.260 there's some debate about this, I would say specifically in 0:18:36.260 --> 0:18:39.350 the person of the glorified Lord Jesus Christ, the the 0:18:39.350 --> 0:18:42.080 glorified Christ that is seen by John on the island 0:18:42.109 --> 0:18:44.810 of Patmos in that vision in chapter one is the 0:18:44.810 --> 0:18:48.710 glorified state, not the humbled state of Jesus in his incarnation, 0:18:48.710 --> 0:18:51.440 but his glorified state, where we're going to have this 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.230 beaming Christ, that's going to be the sunlight and the 0:18:54.230 --> 0:18:57.200 light of the whole world, and that one is going 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.780 to live in the middle of this cube shaped city, 0:18:59.780 --> 0:19:03.199 which is the temple that now becomes the dwelling place 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.840 and the jewel of the of the key capital city 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.270 of the New Earth. So that's what's happening there in 0:19:08.270 --> 0:19:11.629 revelation 21. And that's why the temple ceases to be, 0:19:11.630 --> 0:19:14.210 because we don't need it anymore. God is going to 0:19:14.210 --> 0:19:16.850 live among men. And that's the great thing. No mediatorial 0:19:16.850 --> 0:19:19.609 work of a building or a priest, or in our case, 0:19:19.609 --> 0:19:22.250 as we look long distance, as Paul said through a 0:19:22.250 --> 0:19:24.500 glass dimly. Right, we're going to we're going to be 0:19:24.500 --> 0:19:27.230 face to face with him. And that's the reality of 0:19:27.230 --> 0:19:29.570 the temple coming to Earth. Does that help Robert? 0:19:29.810 --> 0:19:31.639 Maybe, maybe, maybe if I have thought it out a 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.190 little bit further, I might have come to that. Yeah 0:19:34.220 --> 0:19:36.169 I see. Yeah. Right after I asked the question, I 0:19:36.170 --> 0:19:38.570 was thinking it could be talking about two different, uh, 0:19:38.750 --> 0:19:41.449 times or places. But, you know, in that, in that 0:19:41.450 --> 0:19:46.280 chapter 14, though, 214 revelation, it talks about those that, uh, 0:19:46.310 --> 0:19:50.840 have accepted the, the mark of the beast. They'll be 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:55.340 tormented in hell, I guess. And and the holy angels 0:19:55.340 --> 0:19:58.910 and the lamb will watch that I think didn't seem 0:19:58.910 --> 0:20:06.469 like that. Something you would want to watch? Or be 0:20:06.470 --> 0:20:09.050 party to you their. 0:20:17.210 --> 0:20:20.060 Tribulation ever to come on the earth. That's what's going 0:20:20.060 --> 0:20:24.080 on there. In chapter 14. We still have heaven operational 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:27.200 and often depicted as the dwelling place of God, being 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.950 a heavenly temple, a spiritual temple. So that's what's going 0:20:30.950 --> 0:20:33.480 on there. Robert. Sorry we lost you. Call us back. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.609 We can finish that conversation if we can get you in. 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:39.359 Let's go to Joy now on line four from Florida. Welcome, Joy. 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.250 How can I help? You're on with Mike Fabares. 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.340 Hi. I was in a Bible study this week, and 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.310 one of the members in the study said that the 0:20:47.310 --> 0:20:50.940 Holy Spirit created the heavens and the earth. And I 0:20:50.940 --> 0:20:53.760 was like, wait a minute. I thought it was God. 0:20:53.790 --> 0:20:57.720 I mean, I understand the Trinity, but she's specifically dogmatically 0:20:57.810 --> 0:21:01.500 stated that. And I was like, where is that in Scripture? 0:21:01.530 --> 0:21:03.360 So that's my question. Okay. 0:21:03.390 --> 0:21:07.770 Chapter one of Genesis verse number two. Okay. God creates 0:21:07.770 --> 0:21:09.810 as a statement here in verse number one, God has 0:21:09.810 --> 0:21:11.220 created the heavens and the earth. And it says, the 0:21:11.220 --> 0:21:14.730 earth was without form and void, and darkness was over 0:21:14.730 --> 0:21:16.470 the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God 0:21:16.470 --> 0:21:19.950 was hovering over the face of the waters. And so 0:21:19.950 --> 0:21:22.169 this is the picture of the Holy Spirit kind of 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:27.000 being the actual applied work of God on earth to 0:21:27.030 --> 0:21:30.240 make this happen. Now, all the members of the Trinity 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.619 are described as being a part of creation. Think again 0:21:32.650 --> 0:21:34.600 of the passage we started the program with in John 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.960 chapter one. We quoted verse one, but verse three says, 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.719 all things were made through him the word. And without 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.660 him without the word, without Jesus is not anything was 0:21:43.660 --> 0:21:47.320 made that has been made. Okay, so Jesus is an 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.139 agent of creation. The Holy Spirit seems to be the 0:21:50.140 --> 0:21:54.070 application of God's creative work, and the father is the 0:21:54.070 --> 0:21:57.639 architect of creation. So we have in Scripture all three 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.760 members of the Godhead involved in the creative act. And 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.910 I think the tip comes from chapter one, verse two 0:22:03.910 --> 0:22:06.880 of Genesis, that the Spirit of God was over all 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:08.830 of this when all these things started to be, there 0:22:08.830 --> 0:22:11.980 was an expanse, right of the atmosphere and the waters 0:22:11.980 --> 0:22:14.440 and the earth and all these things happened. And he's 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.679 like the tool that God uses here. And again, he 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:19.270 didn't need to do this. He could speak a word 0:22:19.270 --> 0:22:21.790 and it all just happens. But he does this to 0:22:21.820 --> 0:22:24.100 show us. We learn in the Mosaic Law, a pattern 0:22:24.130 --> 0:22:26.739 of work and rest, which we'd have no indication of 0:22:26.770 --> 0:22:29.290 unless God had made the world in six days and then, 0:22:29.300 --> 0:22:32.630 quote unquote, rested on the seventh. So God is showing 0:22:32.630 --> 0:22:37.070 us a form of working, creativity, exercising dominion, being productive, 0:22:37.100 --> 0:22:40.490 being creative, all those things God is doing by using 0:22:40.490 --> 0:22:45.290 all members of the Godhead father, architect, son, agent of creation, 0:22:45.290 --> 0:22:47.930 and then the spirit, the application of the work of 0:22:47.930 --> 0:22:50.600 building the world. All of that, I believe, is the 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:54.770 separation of of tasks and the division of labor in 0:22:54.770 --> 0:22:58.160 the creative act so that God could then say to mankind, 0:22:58.190 --> 0:23:00.530 work for six days, make sure your body rests on 0:23:00.530 --> 0:23:03.950 the seventh. Later becomes in the Mosaic Law, a sign 0:23:03.980 --> 0:23:07.250 of the covenant between Israel and God. But here at 0:23:07.250 --> 0:23:09.560 the very beginning, it's just a pattern of knowing your 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.540 batteries are going to run down after six days of work. 0:23:11.570 --> 0:23:14.030 You better rest on on a seventh day. You better 0:23:14.030 --> 0:23:16.190 have a pattern of work and rest. So I think 0:23:16.190 --> 0:23:19.460 that's where it comes from. Genesis chapter one, verse two, 0:23:19.490 --> 0:23:23.959 that the Spirit of God is involved in creation, and 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.330 we know the son was involved as well as Colossians 0:23:26.330 --> 0:23:29.460 chapter one says, and Hebrews chapter one, and John chapter one. 0:23:29.460 --> 0:23:32.400 So Jesus is a creator in the sense that he 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:34.200 is somehow this is how we like to say it 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.740 in theology, the agent of creation, right? He's giving life 0:23:37.740 --> 0:23:40.320 to human beings, as it says in verse four of 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.899 John one in him was the life, and that life 0:23:42.900 --> 0:23:45.720 was the light of men. So he comes and brings life. 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:49.170 He breathes life into man. It says, God does that, 0:23:49.170 --> 0:23:53.430 but it's actually specifically the son who is providing this 0:23:53.430 --> 0:23:56.220 life to human beings. So all three persons of the Godhead. 0:23:56.220 --> 0:23:59.550 And Genesis one two is our key. Does that help Joy? 0:24:00.510 --> 0:24:03.570 Well, it does, but I'm still thinking, wait a minute. 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:08.909 Did you say at any point that he was the creator? Well, 0:24:08.910 --> 0:24:12.180 he's involved. He was. He was the application of it. 0:24:12.210 --> 0:24:14.640 Yes. That's what I believe, the application of it. Because 0:24:14.670 --> 0:24:17.550 God is credited with creation. And God, you have to remember, 0:24:17.550 --> 0:24:21.540 is a triune being, right? He's a triune, triune being. Right. 0:24:21.570 --> 0:24:24.840 He's father, son, and Holy Spirit. So we know in 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.230 shorthand we can say things like Hebrews chapter three, verse four. 0:24:28.260 --> 0:24:30.510 Every house is built by someone, and the builder of 0:24:30.510 --> 0:24:32.820 all things is God. So we know that God, the 0:24:32.820 --> 0:24:35.160 Triune God, is the builder of all things. But we 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.649 learn in Scripture that the spirit had some work in 0:24:37.650 --> 0:24:40.320 it as he hovered over the face of the waters. Right. 0:24:40.350 --> 0:24:42.480 That's on earth. That's not in heaven. So the spirit 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.990 was dispatched to this creative work of time and space, 0:24:45.990 --> 0:24:50.010 and somehow this, this sentient third person of the Godhead 0:24:50.010 --> 0:24:52.949 gets involved in it. The extent of that, I don't know. 0:24:52.950 --> 0:24:55.740 And even the relation between the members of the Trinity 0:24:55.740 --> 0:24:59.040 is debated. But we know the Holy Spirit was involved, 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.260 the son was involved, and the father, of course, is 0:25:01.260 --> 0:25:05.010 clearly involved. And all three together, we can say in shorthand, 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.190 God made the world so we can say the Holy 0:25:08.190 --> 0:25:09.810 Spirit is the creator. But I think we need to 0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.330 be more specific. And I said, he's the application of 0:25:12.330 --> 0:25:16.020 God's creative work in building the world in six days. 0:25:16.020 --> 0:25:18.060 So that's how I would put it. And that's just 0:25:18.060 --> 0:25:21.419 more of a careful statement. A more loose statement would say, 0:25:21.450 --> 0:25:24.090 I could say Jesus made the world. And that's true, right? 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.740 But he's the agent of creation. Father is the architect 0:25:26.740 --> 0:25:30.160 of creation. The spirit is the application of God's creative work. 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.370 And I hope that helps. Joy, that is complicated. But 0:25:33.369 --> 0:25:36.160 that's the way God is. It complicated being, that is 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.670 for sure. 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We've got a lot of 0:27:03.230 --> 0:27:05.030 lot of questions. I'm assuming we. 0:27:05.030 --> 0:27:08.149 Do. We do. And we'll jump right in with Carlos 0:27:08.150 --> 0:27:12.230 from Florida. And Carlos tells us that he has accepted 0:27:12.230 --> 0:27:15.350 Jesus as his Lord and Savior, but he wants to 0:27:15.380 --> 0:27:20.210 know what will God judge us on on the day 0:27:20.210 --> 0:27:21.109 of judgment? 0:27:21.590 --> 0:27:22.550 Well, yeah. 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.640 There are definitely two primary judgments that we should think about. 0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.310 One is the great White Throne judgment, and that is 0:27:29.310 --> 0:27:33.960 for non-Christians in revelation chapter 20. So if you have 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.750 put your trust in Jesus Christ, if you're one of his. 0:27:36.780 --> 0:27:39.149 Right now you are a follower of Christ. You've repented 0:27:39.180 --> 0:27:41.250 of your sins. You've put your trust in Jesus. The 0:27:41.250 --> 0:27:43.919 good news is you don't have to be in that line. 0:27:44.100 --> 0:27:46.650 Anyone whose name is not written in the Lamb's Book 0:27:46.650 --> 0:27:48.810 of Life, it says, is in that line to be 0:27:48.810 --> 0:27:52.080 judged according to what they've done, according to what they knew, 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.989 according to the responsibility they had. And so everyone's going 0:27:54.990 --> 0:27:57.479 to have a different judgment. But thank God, praise be 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.699 to God that we will not be in that line. 0:27:59.700 --> 0:28:03.179 Romans chapter eight, verse one. There's no condemnation for those 0:28:03.180 --> 0:28:05.850 in Christ Jesus. And that line is for condemnation. So 0:28:05.850 --> 0:28:09.629 no great white throne. But there's another throne. It's the 0:28:09.630 --> 0:28:12.720 throne of Christ. It's called the Bema Seat of Christ 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.750 in second Corinthians 510 and it says, we all must 0:28:15.750 --> 0:28:19.590 appear before the judgment seat of Christ. Now that particular 0:28:19.590 --> 0:28:23.410 picture is about us as Christians living out our Christian 0:28:23.410 --> 0:28:27.040 life and as it's put in first Corinthians three. Our decisions, 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.940 our choices, our investment, our stewardship, our faithfulness. How we 0:28:30.940 --> 0:28:33.340 lived out our Christian life based on what the Lord 0:28:33.340 --> 0:28:36.159 has put before us in terms of talent and opportunity. 0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:37.990 All of that is going to be judged, and it's 0:28:37.990 --> 0:28:41.230 either going to be considered by Jesus Christ gold, silver 0:28:41.230 --> 0:28:44.800 and precious stones, something he thinks is laudable and affordable 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.650 and something he is going to praise his servants for, 0:28:47.650 --> 0:28:50.350 or things that are wood, hay and straw, and those 0:28:50.350 --> 0:28:52.420 things are going to be burned up, they won't matter. 0:28:52.420 --> 0:28:55.570 So if you've lived your Christian life, say, for ten years, 0:28:55.570 --> 0:28:58.150 let's just think about that, right? Say, Carlos, you're living 0:28:58.150 --> 0:29:00.100 there in Florida and you've been a Christian for ten years, right? 0:29:00.130 --> 0:29:04.150 You may be doing several laudable things serving the Lord 0:29:04.150 --> 0:29:06.970 at your job, representing Christ, being salt and light in 0:29:06.970 --> 0:29:10.570 your neighborhood, maybe a church you're serving there faithfully. All 0:29:10.570 --> 0:29:13.300 those things are going to be rewarded. But maybe the 0:29:13.300 --> 0:29:15.370 things you've done that you think, oh, that was not good. 0:29:15.370 --> 0:29:17.080 I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have been involved 0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.570 in that. That was not appropriate for me as a 0:29:19.570 --> 0:29:21.520 child who got all those things, they're going to be 0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.610 burned up. They will not be a part of your judgment. 0:29:24.610 --> 0:29:27.100 And what we want is we want to hear well done, 0:29:27.100 --> 0:29:29.770 good and faithful servant. So we want to live faithfully 0:29:29.770 --> 0:29:33.220 and God is going to reward us accordingly. Some people 0:29:33.220 --> 0:29:34.810 think that we're going to get to heaven and everyone's 0:29:34.810 --> 0:29:37.510 going to have the same response from Jesus. But that's 0:29:37.510 --> 0:29:39.130 not true. Not all of us are going to hear, 0:29:39.130 --> 0:29:41.560 well done. Some of us are going to get perhaps 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.140 a that was okay, and some of us are going 0:29:44.140 --> 0:29:47.080 to get man, that wasn't very good at all. And 0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.480 yet you trusted in me and come on in. All 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.040 of us are going to bear fruit. But the question is, 0:29:51.070 --> 0:29:53.950 is it 30 fold, 60 fold or 100 fold? And 0:29:53.950 --> 0:29:57.040 we're going to be rewarded accordingly. So the word judgment 0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.959 is used in both. One is the judgment that you 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.960 might consider a criminal getting, and the other is someone 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.110 who might have made a chili for the county fair. 0:30:05.110 --> 0:30:07.060 And what kind of judgment is he going to have? Well, 0:30:07.060 --> 0:30:09.190 it's going to be based on rewards. And the better 0:30:09.190 --> 0:30:12.010 the pot of chili, right? The greater the reward. So 0:30:12.010 --> 0:30:14.620 we want to live our Christian lives as good stewards. Tiara. 0:30:14.650 --> 0:30:15.730 That's what it's all about. 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.340 That is a wonderful answer, Mike. thank you for that. 0:30:19.340 --> 0:30:21.830 And yes, we do all want to hear well done, 0:30:21.830 --> 0:30:24.740 good and faithful servant. Thank you. And I also have 0:30:24.740 --> 0:30:29.030 just a brief announcement. Moody Bible Institute and Chosen People 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:34.490 Ministries is going to present a summit on opposing anti-Semitism, 0:30:34.490 --> 0:30:36.920 and that is going to be held right here on 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:42.530 the Moody Bible Institute campus in Chicago on Saturday, November 9th, 2024. 0:30:42.530 --> 0:30:47.240 You can get more information on our website. Open Line radio.org. 0:30:47.540 --> 0:30:48.290 Thank you. 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:50.780 Let me just say a word about that. Teairra. You know, 0:30:50.810 --> 0:30:55.280 there's no room for anti-Semitism among Christians, right? The Jewish people, 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.460 though they are, as Romans 11 says, if they reject Christ, 0:30:58.460 --> 0:31:00.890 they may be enemies of the gospel. Right? But as 0:31:00.890 --> 0:31:05.030 it regards God's promise, his election, his covenant, they're beloved 0:31:05.030 --> 0:31:07.250 for the sake of the forefathers and the gifts and 0:31:07.250 --> 0:31:10.520 callings of God. It says there in that passage they're irrevocable, 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:12.740 and one day they're going to be grafted back in 0:31:12.740 --> 0:31:16.250 to the great work of God through Jesus Christ. And 0:31:16.250 --> 0:31:18.660 it says in the last generation we're going to see 0:31:18.660 --> 0:31:22.050 a massive revival of of Jewish people coming to faith 0:31:22.050 --> 0:31:24.600 in Christ. So we know that they are a friend 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:29.250 of God in the sense that they are God's chosen nation. 0:31:29.250 --> 0:31:32.970 And they threw that nation, have provided us Jesus Christ, right? 0:31:32.970 --> 0:31:35.220 We all trust in Him as Gentiles. But here's the 0:31:35.220 --> 0:31:37.830 good news, right? One day, even though they're resistant to 0:31:37.860 --> 0:31:39.930 the gospel, many of them now we're going to see 0:31:39.930 --> 0:31:42.600 the last generation turning to Christ. And we always, whoever's 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.700 a friend of God ought to be a friend of ours. 0:31:44.700 --> 0:31:48.090 So that's an important reminder. And what a great conference 0:31:48.090 --> 0:31:50.370 this is going to be. And I know if Doctor 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.890 Michael Riedel is a part of it, it's going to 0:31:52.890 --> 0:31:53.700 be great. 0:31:53.700 --> 0:31:56.580 Thank you. Yes, he is, along with doctor Mark Jobe 0:31:56.580 --> 0:32:01.170 and Carl Claussen and so many other gifted speakers. Thank you. 0:32:01.590 --> 0:32:04.200 And we'll go back to the mailbag. We have another 0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:09.270 question from Robin in Ohio who listens on Wtxf. Her 0:32:09.270 --> 0:32:12.750 question is my my husband told me Christ had a 0:32:12.750 --> 0:32:18.360 tattoo on his thigh based on revelations 1916. Is this 0:32:18.390 --> 0:32:19.350 a tattoo? 0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:21.030 Well, I don't know that. 0:32:21.030 --> 0:32:25.080 It's a tattoo, but it's certainly our words that are 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.770 written right. King of kings and Lord of Lords. So 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.050 it says it's written on his thigh. I don't know 0:32:31.050 --> 0:32:34.260 if there is. I always picture, like the motorcycle riders, 0:32:34.290 --> 0:32:36.720 you know, the old in the old days, the and 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.270 probably still today, the motocross riders there in the dirt. 0:32:39.300 --> 0:32:42.150 They always have their their team name or some kind 0:32:42.150 --> 0:32:45.720 of advertisement there on the leathers of their thigh, and 0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.030 they can see it as they're seated on that motorcycle. Well, 0:32:48.030 --> 0:32:51.420 here he's pictured as mounted on this horse and it 0:32:51.420 --> 0:32:53.880 says there is written King of kings and Lord of Lords. 0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.250 I don't know that that's a tattoo, but I know 0:32:56.250 --> 0:32:58.500 that it's written there for them to read in that 0:32:58.500 --> 0:33:03.030 scene at the battle of Armageddon in Revelation 19. So 0:33:03.030 --> 0:33:05.160 I think we're left to see it, and it's going 0:33:05.190 --> 0:33:06.570 to be able we'll be able to see it. We're 0:33:06.570 --> 0:33:08.550 going to come back with him that day, and we'll 0:33:08.580 --> 0:33:10.620 be able to know whether that's some kind of permanent 0:33:10.620 --> 0:33:13.410 inscription or whether that's part of the clothing that he's wearing. 0:33:13.410 --> 0:33:18.100 But I can't tell you definitively unfortunately. But a great passage. 0:33:18.100 --> 0:33:22.210 Thank you for that response. And lastly, we have Pamela 0:33:22.210 --> 0:33:27.040 from Ohio who listens on Wtxf. Psalm 37 four says, 0:33:27.070 --> 0:33:29.320 take delight in the Lord, and he will give you 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.290 the desires of your heart. Does this mean the Lord 0:33:32.290 --> 0:33:34.870 will give you what you want? Related to the desires 0:33:34.870 --> 0:33:38.290 of your heart, desires that you already have, or that 0:33:38.290 --> 0:33:42.070 he will implant the possibly new desires that you should 0:33:42.070 --> 0:33:43.240 have in your heart? 0:33:43.750 --> 0:33:44.290 What a great. 0:33:44.290 --> 0:33:48.040 Question, because some people do quote Psalm 37 four and 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:49.720 they think, well, you know what? If I just pray 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.150 to the Lord and kind of am happy with him, 0:33:52.150 --> 0:33:54.640 then whatever I want, I want to be the the 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.310 best baseball player in the world. Well, then God's going 0:33:57.340 --> 0:33:59.800 to give me that, because that's my desire. I don't 0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.530 think that's what it's saying. So I think just as 0:34:02.530 --> 0:34:05.530 she said, as Pamela said, when you look at your 0:34:05.530 --> 0:34:08.410 heart as a Christian, you know this as you're following 0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.770 the Lord. God is implanting in your heart all kinds 0:34:11.770 --> 0:34:14.330 of desires that are good and some of my desires 0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.399 right to be the best salesman at the job, or, 0:34:16.430 --> 0:34:18.260 you know, to get promotions or to have a raise 0:34:18.260 --> 0:34:21.170 at work or to somehow have drive some really nice car. 0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.870 It may not be that God's will is that I'm, 0:34:23.989 --> 0:34:26.359 you know, I'm the best baseball player in the league, right? 0:34:26.390 --> 0:34:29.480 It may be that I just learn to be who 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.670 God has made me to be. So what God is 0:34:31.670 --> 0:34:33.920 going to do, I think, is change our hearts. And 0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.350 I think prayer in general does that drawing near to 0:34:36.380 --> 0:34:40.130 the Lord does that. And Psalm 37 four says, here's 0:34:40.130 --> 0:34:42.410 the thing you should do. Delight yourself in the Lord. 0:34:42.410 --> 0:34:44.810 And in the end, I think what you'll realize is 0:34:44.810 --> 0:34:48.230 that the things that you desire as you walk with him, right? 0:34:48.260 --> 0:34:51.049 You're going to see those given to you. Well, the 0:34:51.050 --> 0:34:54.110 desires are given, and also the granting of those desires 0:34:54.140 --> 0:34:57.050 is given are given. Think of Paul in Second Corinthians 0:34:57.050 --> 0:34:59.930 chapter 12. Right. He had this thorn in the flesh, 0:34:59.930 --> 0:35:01.850 he calls it, but it was a chronic illness of 0:35:01.850 --> 0:35:04.669 some kind. Well, he prayed, he said he earnestly prayed 0:35:04.670 --> 0:35:06.470 that God would take it away. So that was his desire. 0:35:06.500 --> 0:35:08.330 Did God give him that? No. Did he delight in 0:35:08.330 --> 0:35:11.270 the Lord? Yes. But then God changed his heart and 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.850 gave him. Think about this now. Gave him the ability 0:35:14.850 --> 0:35:18.270 to say with contentment, right? God's grace is sufficient. I'll 0:35:18.270 --> 0:35:20.969 delight in this now. I'll delight in weakness in this 0:35:20.969 --> 0:35:22.890 chronic illness that I have, because I know I can 0:35:22.890 --> 0:35:24.870 do all things through Christ who strengthens me. I know 0:35:24.870 --> 0:35:27.359 that God will get me through this life and use 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.360 it for good. So God had to change his desire 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.150 and then he was okay with that. Not only okay, 0:35:33.150 --> 0:35:35.070 he said, I'll delight in it, I'll boast in it. 0:35:35.070 --> 0:35:37.410 So I think delighting yourself in the Lord is the 0:35:37.410 --> 0:35:40.050 key thing we can hold tightly on to. And then saying, God, 0:35:40.050 --> 0:35:42.690 give me the right desires and then grant those desires. 0:35:42.690 --> 0:35:45.029 But sometimes our desires need to change. 0:35:45.870 --> 0:35:48.570 That's very good. Thank you. So we are shaped and 0:35:48.570 --> 0:35:51.480 molded to be more like Christ. And as that happens, 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.810 our desires change to represent who he is and what 0:35:54.810 --> 0:35:57.300 he's doing in our lives. That's right, that's right. 0:35:58.830 --> 0:35:59.819 Well, that was. 0:35:59.820 --> 0:36:01.739 That was the mailbag. Today, when we have run out 0:36:01.739 --> 0:36:04.290 of time, that sure went fast. But I appreciate it. Teairra, 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.350 that's a great thing for you to write in to us. 0:36:07.350 --> 0:36:08.580 If you do have a question, you can go to 0:36:08.610 --> 0:36:12.520 our website and see that. Openline. Org, this is Moody Radio. 0:36:12.550 --> 0:36:19.480 The numbers (877) 548-3675. That's the number to call after the break. 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:21.250 And we're going to have a great time with more 0:36:21.250 --> 0:36:24.400 of your questions coming up right after this. 0:36:34.210 --> 0:36:37.270 When autumn rolls around, people are always interested in the 0:36:37.270 --> 0:36:40.510 Jewish fall holy days. That's why Chosen People Ministries is 0:36:40.510 --> 0:36:44.739 offering a free booklet, Celebrate Israel's High Holidays. This booklet 0:36:44.739 --> 0:36:48.609 explores the fall Jewish high holidays of Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, 0:36:48.610 --> 0:36:51.460 and Sukkot. Don't miss out, just go to the Open 0:36:51.460 --> 0:36:55.540 Line website. Open line radio.org. Scroll down and click on 0:36:55.540 --> 0:36:57.910 the link that says A free gift from Chosen People 0:36:57.940 --> 0:37:00.190 Ministries that will take you to a page where you 0:37:00.190 --> 0:37:03.069 can sign up for your very own copy of Celebrate 0:37:03.070 --> 0:37:04.660 Israel's High Holidays. 0:37:09.250 --> 0:37:12.040 Welcome back to Open Line. My name is Mike Fabares. 0:37:12.070 --> 0:37:15.070 I'm the pastor of Compass Bible Church in Aliso Viejo. Also, 0:37:15.100 --> 0:37:18.910 the voice you hear on Focalpoint radio here on Moody Network. 0:37:18.910 --> 0:37:21.279 And I'm filling in for Doctor Michael Readerlink, who's out 0:37:21.310 --> 0:37:25.150 teaching all about the book of acts on the Mediterranean. 0:37:25.150 --> 0:37:28.840 And he's helping people understand the geography and the reality 0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.270 of the historicity of the book of acts in the Bible. 0:37:31.270 --> 0:37:33.460 What a great trip. What a privilege for those that 0:37:33.460 --> 0:37:35.560 are on it. I'm so glad to be sitting in 0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.170 and filling in for Doctor Michael Riedel. Nick, if you 0:37:38.170 --> 0:37:39.940 have a question about the Bible or the Christian life, 0:37:39.940 --> 0:37:45.400 give me a call (877) 548-3675. We've got tons of questions 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.890 here lined up. So let's go to line six. Gary, 0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.560 you're on the air with Mike Fabares. How can I help? 0:37:51.550 --> 0:37:53.170 Hi, Mike. I just want. 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:54.790 To say I love the show. 0:37:54.969 --> 0:37:56.140 Oh, good. Fantastic. 0:37:56.170 --> 0:38:01.180 My question my question is, I. I just found out 0:38:01.180 --> 0:38:06.370 the other day that my brother doesn't believe there's a heaven. Now. 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:10.100 I think he believes in God, but I don't think 0:38:10.130 --> 0:38:13.100 he doesn't believe that there's a heaven. How can I 0:38:13.130 --> 0:38:15.170 convince him that there is one? 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:16.670 Wow, that is. 0:38:16.670 --> 0:38:19.430 A good question. And you know, when it comes to 0:38:19.460 --> 0:38:22.370 the question of the afterlife, I think what we have 0:38:22.370 --> 0:38:26.300 to remember is that God is a God who has 0:38:26.300 --> 0:38:31.040 always implanted within the heart a stamp of eternity. And 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:32.990 we've got to remember that, and we've got to remember 0:38:32.989 --> 0:38:37.190 that God has always left himself a witness in the 0:38:37.190 --> 0:38:40.820 reality of who we are as human beings. And in fact, 0:38:40.820 --> 0:38:43.400 we should be telling people that if we read the 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.739 Word of God, we can see in it so many 0:38:45.739 --> 0:38:49.609 things that comport with what we what we understand. Can 0:38:49.610 --> 0:38:52.009 you hear me? You're still there. 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:53.150 I can hear you. 0:38:53.180 --> 0:38:53.540 Okay. 0:38:53.540 --> 0:38:56.060 My brother's right here with me, too. Oh. 0:38:56.450 --> 0:38:58.490 Okay. Yeah, well, we'll put. 0:38:58.610 --> 0:39:00.080 You want to put him on for a second? Let 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:01.700 me ask him a couple of questions. 0:39:02.420 --> 0:39:03.469 Yeah, he's right here. 0:39:03.500 --> 0:39:05.149 Okay. Hey, tell tell. 0:39:05.180 --> 0:39:07.530 Tell me why it is that you doubt what God's 0:39:07.530 --> 0:39:10.830 Word says about the afterlife. Why would you doubt what 0:39:10.860 --> 0:39:12.480 what the Lord tells us? 0:39:14.580 --> 0:39:17.730 I have a core belief system that's based on something 0:39:17.730 --> 0:39:21.330 I see, smell, touch or feel. And just because somebody 0:39:21.330 --> 0:39:24.090 tells me something doesn't necessarily make me believe it. 0:39:24.180 --> 0:39:26.549 Okay, but you believe in justice. Right? You do believe 0:39:26.550 --> 0:39:31.950 in justice, and you can't see that there's nothing tangible. 0:39:31.950 --> 0:39:34.290 You can't see it. You can't. Your five senses can't 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:35.850 see justice. 0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:37.050 As far as. What do you mean? 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:41.130 Well, if someone does something, someone steals your car today, right? 0:39:41.130 --> 0:39:44.009 You think there should be justice, right? If he says, 0:39:44.010 --> 0:39:46.620 I got your car, I'm going to keep it. Your 0:39:46.620 --> 0:39:49.140 sense of justice would be. I think that there should 0:39:49.140 --> 0:39:50.790 be some penalty for that. And he'd say, no, I 0:39:50.790 --> 0:39:52.650 got away with it. I took your car. It's fine. 0:39:52.650 --> 0:39:54.900 There's no justice. And when you call the cops, you 0:39:54.900 --> 0:39:56.940 want them to do what is just. Well, that's not 0:39:56.940 --> 0:40:00.210 a thing, right? There's nothing temporal about it. There's nothing 0:40:00.210 --> 0:40:03.630 you can taste, touch, smell. You just can't. Right. This is. 0:40:03.630 --> 0:40:07.420 This is a concept and the concept of justice or 0:40:07.420 --> 0:40:10.030 love or any number of things. The virtues that I 0:40:10.030 --> 0:40:12.520 think all of us know are true. They come from 0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:16.090 the invisible God who's created us in his image. And 0:40:16.090 --> 0:40:18.400 those are the kinds of things that you insist upon, 0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:21.549 but you insist upon them without seeing any of them. Right? 0:40:21.580 --> 0:40:24.040 You understand this to be a reality, not because of 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.009 anything in the tangible world, but because this is the 0:40:27.010 --> 0:40:30.160 way God has made you. And according to Ecclesiastes, God 0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:34.060 says he's also made you to put this eternity, this 0:40:34.060 --> 0:40:36.820 sense of eternity in your heart. And so there are 0:40:36.820 --> 0:40:39.910 realities that we want to deny because we think they're irrelevant. 0:40:39.910 --> 0:40:41.620 I don't want to think about the afterlife. It's irrelevant 0:40:41.620 --> 0:40:44.440 to my life today. But justice, which is also an 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.680 invisible reality. You say, well, I want justice. I'm going 0:40:47.710 --> 0:40:50.620 to apply this sense of what fairness is and what 0:40:50.650 --> 0:40:54.490 makes sense as a good and rational response. See, in 0:40:54.489 --> 0:40:59.230 the jungle, the the monkeys, you know, the giraffes, the gorillas, whatever. 0:40:59.230 --> 0:41:01.540 They don't have justice. They don't care about justice. It's 0:41:01.540 --> 0:41:04.090 dog eat dog out there because they're not made in 0:41:04.090 --> 0:41:06.609 the image of God. But we believe in concepts of 0:41:06.610 --> 0:41:10.090 virtue and beauty and love and justice, and these things 0:41:10.090 --> 0:41:12.730 come from us being made in the image of God. 0:41:12.730 --> 0:41:14.469 So we have to look to the God who made 0:41:14.469 --> 0:41:16.419 us and say, God, tell us about the future, which 0:41:16.420 --> 0:41:19.359 may seem irrelevant after we die. And God says it's 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.760 not irrelevant because there's two realities you're either going to 0:41:21.940 --> 0:41:25.480 be punished for your sins and justice will be held 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.239 on you, or you're going to be rewarded, and you're 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.730 going to have a reward based on what Jesus Christ 0:41:30.730 --> 0:41:33.310 has done for you. So there's a million things if 0:41:33.310 --> 0:41:34.870 you start looking in your life. And I would I 0:41:34.870 --> 0:41:37.239 would want you to do this. How many things do 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.330 you do and insist upon that you can't see, you 0:41:40.330 --> 0:41:43.120 can't touch, you can't taste, you can't smell it. These 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.190 are realities that all of us live by, and we 0:41:45.190 --> 0:41:48.009 insist upon them because we're not a bunch of animals 0:41:48.010 --> 0:41:51.520 in the jungle. We're beings made in the image of God. 0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.400 And we seek these higher ideals that are not subject 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.220 to the natural world, but we insist upon them because 0:41:57.219 --> 0:41:59.380 they have bearing on our lives. Now, Jesus says, what 0:41:59.380 --> 0:42:01.720 has bearing on your life when you die is where 0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.440 you're going to end up. And there's a heaven and 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.049 there's a hell, and you need to understand which one 0:42:06.050 --> 0:42:08.300 you need to to be in. Which I think should 0:42:08.300 --> 0:42:10.910 be an obvious answer. And the only way to get there, 0:42:10.910 --> 0:42:13.700 as it says, as Jesus himself says, who rose from 0:42:13.700 --> 0:42:16.940 the dead historically proved inaccurate, is you better put your 0:42:16.940 --> 0:42:19.490 trust in me. There's no other name under heaven given 0:42:19.489 --> 0:42:21.739 among men by which we must be saved, and you 0:42:21.739 --> 0:42:24.380 must be saved, or you're going to incur the judgment 0:42:24.380 --> 0:42:26.810 of all of your sins by the God who made you. 0:42:26.810 --> 0:42:28.880 And when you say, I shouldn't be judged, he's going 0:42:28.910 --> 0:42:31.040 to say, well, you threw your whole life, wanted people 0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.140 to be judged when they did, what was wrong? And 0:42:33.140 --> 0:42:36.140 you thought this wasn't a real reality for the afterlife. 0:42:36.140 --> 0:42:38.930 I also told you about the afterlife, that death wasn't 0:42:38.930 --> 0:42:40.910 the end of your existence. It's just the end of 0:42:40.910 --> 0:42:43.609 your time here on this planet. When I gave you 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.160 time to repent of your sins and put your trust 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:47.990 in me. So I would encourage you to read the 0:42:47.989 --> 0:42:51.140 Bible and look very carefully at yourself, and to know 0:42:51.140 --> 0:42:53.840 that you do not operate just on what you can touch, taste, 0:42:53.870 --> 0:42:57.200 feel and hear. There's plenty of things that you are 0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.319 expecting because you're a civilized human being made in the 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.610 image of God and to say, well, we just evolved 0:43:02.610 --> 0:43:04.140 into that. I'm going to say, well, where did we 0:43:04.140 --> 0:43:06.510 get all that? Where did we get all of these 0:43:06.510 --> 0:43:10.080 things that are what we call in philosophy and in theology, 0:43:10.110 --> 0:43:13.860 things that are transcendent. They transcend the natural world, and 0:43:13.860 --> 0:43:15.840 these are the things we look to in God's Word. 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.390 He reveals to us and tells us where they come from. 0:43:18.390 --> 0:43:20.310 And he says, one day you'll answer to me. So 0:43:20.310 --> 0:43:22.739 I'd ask you please, to look very carefully at your 0:43:22.739 --> 0:43:25.950 own life. If you live just by your five senses, right, 0:43:25.980 --> 0:43:28.950 then we would be living in a jungle. And unfortunately, 0:43:28.950 --> 0:43:30.960 some people are wanting to live that way. And that's 0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.350 what's making our cities and streets so uninhabitable. But that 0:43:34.350 --> 0:43:36.690 is not the way God made us to live. And 0:43:36.690 --> 0:43:38.339 the Bible is going to give us a roadmap. Any 0:43:38.340 --> 0:43:40.110 last word on that before I let you go? 0:43:41.820 --> 0:43:44.460 Uh, no thank you. That was very helpful. 0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:45.480 Okay. Well, I. 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.040 Hope it does. And I think all of us need 0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.919 to consider eternity. We can't just think about the here 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:51.870 and now. It's like people that just think about today, 0:43:51.870 --> 0:43:54.299 they don't think about the future in this life. Well, 0:43:54.330 --> 0:43:57.240 think about the ultimate future. What happens when your life 0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:01.000 is over? You breathe your last and your spirit escapes 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:04.240 your body. Your body ceases to be animated. Right. Think 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.459 about that. You want to talk about scientific? Let's put 0:44:06.460 --> 0:44:09.580 a body under a microscope and say, okay, here is 0:44:09.580 --> 0:44:12.219 a body. All the cells are there, right? It's supposed 0:44:12.219 --> 0:44:14.379 to be alive, but it ceases to be alive. What 0:44:14.380 --> 0:44:18.040 is life itself, even that principle of life? Even the atheists, 0:44:18.070 --> 0:44:20.200 like Dennett tried to work hard to say, well, what 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.050 is the idea of human consciousness? And he couldn't describe it. 0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.540 He tried hard to describe it. And most people come 0:44:25.660 --> 0:44:27.489 to a dead end. What's the difference between a living 0:44:27.489 --> 0:44:30.460 body and a dead body? Well, life. Well, what is life? 0:44:30.460 --> 0:44:32.319 What is the principle of life? What is it? We 0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.629 don't even know what it is because it is not 0:44:34.660 --> 0:44:37.629 of the five senses. And so I could go on, 0:44:37.630 --> 0:44:42.010 but I certainly want to refire my computers here, because 0:44:42.010 --> 0:44:45.219 I've got a break and I need a break here 0:44:45.219 --> 0:44:47.350 at this point to refire, unless you got a call 0:44:47.350 --> 0:44:50.200 for me because I'm running blind. All my system is 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.950 down here. Okay. Let's go. John, in line ten, I 0:44:53.950 --> 0:44:56.110 can't see, but I'll trust you'll tell me when the 0:44:56.110 --> 0:44:58.270 break is coming up. John, let's talk to you. You're 0:44:58.270 --> 0:45:00.280 on the air with Mike Fabares. How can I help? 0:45:01.390 --> 0:45:05.200 Hey, Mike Fabares. Everybody there behind the scenes, I love y'all. 0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:09.490 It's all so wonderful for me. Uh, God's presence and 0:45:09.489 --> 0:45:14.859 just being in a Christian mind. Uh, I'm just so 0:45:14.860 --> 0:45:18.280 good thing is just so wonderful that I can hear 0:45:18.310 --> 0:45:22.720 God talking through you today. But anyway, my question, uh, 0:45:22.750 --> 0:45:25.540 really is, is, is I'd like to pick your brain 0:45:25.540 --> 0:45:28.930 to expound on how wonderful it's going to be. Like, 0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:32.140 I can't even wrap my mind around it. How heaven. Uh, 0:45:32.140 --> 0:45:35.709 Jesus is going to reign. It's just so wonderful. Good 0:45:35.710 --> 0:45:39.880 news of how everything turns back and everything as we 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:44.049 know as Christians. But so much is done. He's done 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:48.700 in my life. God's real. He's done wonderful things. Uh, 0:45:48.910 --> 0:45:54.130 he can explain everything, uh, all in just the short time. 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:57.890 It's just too wonderful. But the whole heaven how we're 0:45:57.890 --> 0:46:01.070 going to be with Jesus. Your perspective, Brandi? 0:46:01.250 --> 0:46:02.300 All right. Sure. 0:46:03.050 --> 0:46:05.180 Well, we've got a break coming up, but I will 0:46:05.180 --> 0:46:08.630 point you not only to revelation 21 and 22, but 0:46:08.630 --> 0:46:10.040 after the break, I'm going to talk a little bit 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.590 about Isaiah 65. We've got a long break here coming 0:46:12.590 --> 0:46:14.630 up because it's at the top of the hour. But 0:46:14.630 --> 0:46:17.299 I certainly want you to stay tuned because I'm going 0:46:17.330 --> 0:46:20.540 to talk about just exactly John, what you said another 0:46:20.540 --> 0:46:23.120 hour of open lines coming up on most of these stations. 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:24.830 You can go to the website. Always hear us there. 0:46:24.860 --> 0:46:29.629 Open line radio.org. Open Line Radio with Doctor Michael Riedel 0:46:29.870 --> 0:46:33.050 is a production of Moody Radio, which is a ministry 0:46:33.050 --> 0:46:35.810 of the Moody Bible Institute. My name is Mike Favara, 0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:37.880 sitting in for doctor Ray Dolnick, and I'm going to 0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:41.540 be back with you for another hour right after this.