WEBVTT - People in Scripture Who Memorized Scripture

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<v S1>I'm.

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<v S2>Sure you've heard. You're supposed to memorize the Bible. What

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<v S2>about the people in the pages of Scripture? Did they

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<v S2>memorize whatever portions of the Bible they had back then? Ha!

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<v S2>Just ahead, a fascinating look at people in Scripture who

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<v S2>memorize scripture. We've got some compelling examples for you and

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<v S2>some bonus tips for your own Bible memory as well. Plus,

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<v S2>all the news from the Middle East here on the

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<v S2>land and the book. Thanks for connecting with us today.

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<v S2>I'm John Gager and our host, Doctor Charlie Dyer is

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<v S2>out on assignment, but he's still in touch with us

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<v S2>and shared his thoughts about the news stories that have

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<v S2>come out of the Middle East this week. But first,

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<v S2>Passover will soon be upon us. And one of the

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<v S2>traditional Passover questions is what makes this night different from

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<v S2>all others? Passover is an important biblical holiday with huge

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<v S2>meaning for Jewish people and believers in Jesus. And if

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<v S2>you want to learn more about what makes Passover so special,

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<v S2>of Passover to see the rich connections to Jesus, our Messiah,

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<v S2>and the Last Supper. You'll also receive a link for

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<v S2>request your copy. Again, that's life in messiah.org. All right,

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<v S2>let's swing our focus toward current events from the Middle East.

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<v S2>The threatened attack against Iran by Israel and possibly the U.S.

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<v S2>is already impacting Iran. What preparations are they taking and

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<v S2>how serious is the threat of such an attack actually happening? Well,

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<v S2>in spite of their bluster and bravado, Charlie suggests that

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<v S2>Iran appears to be very concerned about a threatened attack.

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<v S2>As we mentioned before, they were apparently secretly rushing to

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<v S2>develop the technology to produce several basic or crude nuclear

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<v S2>weapons just as quickly as possible. Now, the bombs don't

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<v S2>need to be ultra powerful or sophisticated. They simply need

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<v S2>to be small enough to mount on a missile and

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<v S2>deliver to a target. In threatening a small country like Israel,

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<v S2>having a nuclear weapon that could be launched against Tel Aviv,

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<v S2>for example, could deter Israel from responding to future Iranian threats.

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<v S2>The ayatollah also suggested there should be no negotiations with

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<v S2>the U.S. because of the apparent threats, but he apparently

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<v S2>left the door open to talks with the understanding that

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<v S2>they do not include any threats of attack. Iran also

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<v S2>launched its first drone carrier. The former container vessel has

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<v S2>been equipped with a runway for launching drones, and it

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<v S2>can also operate helicopters. This gives Iran more flexibility in

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<v S2>launch locations, however, it's also unclear how vulnerable the ship

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<v S2>will be. Should it stray too far from home waters.

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<v S2>But to the main question being asked here, how serious

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<v S2>is the actual threat of an attack? President Trump posted

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<v S2>an online message saying reports that the United States, working

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<v S2>in conjunction with Israel, is going to blow Iran into

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<v S2>smithereens are greatly exaggerated. However, it is unclear what is

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<v S2>his final word on the subject. Or is this simply

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<v S2>a way to try to coax Iran into negotiations? President

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<v S2>Trump has made it clear that Iran cannot possess nuclear weapons.

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<v S2>The breakout time for Iran to actually build a nuclear

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<v S2>bomb once they start is likely measured in weeks, not months.

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<v S2>So the US and Israel are likely both preparing a

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<v S2>response should they receive intelligence suggesting Iran is moving forward.

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<v S2>Story number two. President Trump has proposed a trade corridor

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<v S2>linking India to Europe and the U.S. through Israel. Now,

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<v S2>what would such a trade corridor accomplish and is it

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<v S2>even feasible? Well, Doctor Dyer told me he thinks that

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<v S2>most in the US really didn't grasp the strategic significance

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<v S2>of this proposal. So let me share some of the background.

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<v S2>The US and China are in an economic war, no

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<v S2>doubt about it. China has been using its Belt and

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<v S2>Road Initiative to try to carve out its own worldwide

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<v S2>connections to diminish US influence. At the same time, the

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<v S2>Houthis have created a force in the Red sea that

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<v S2>is disrupting trade and commerce through the Suez Canal. That's

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<v S2>increasing the price of everything from goods to oil coming

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<v S2>from Asia to the west. China has also tried to

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<v S2>gain influence in the Panama Canal, another major choke point

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<v S2>for world commerce. India is a major counterbalance to China,

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<v S2>and at the same time, a peace treaty between the

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<v S2>Gulf states and Israel and a route through them connecting

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<v S2>the Arabian Sea and the Mediterranean Sea could bypass the

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<v S2>Houthis and their attempt to block the Red sea as

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<v S2>envisioned by President Trump. This new trade route would run

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<v S2>from India to Israel and onward to Italy in the U.S.,

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<v S2>and would include seaports, rail lines, and undersea cables. Now

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<v S2>the question is, is it feasible? The short answer is

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<v S2>that it is. Though it will face some obstacles. For example,

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<v S2>China will not stand idly by and allow India to

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<v S2>become the dominant power in Southeast Asia, though they don't

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<v S2>have the military capability to project power and control through

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<v S2>the area. Iran is one other potential block for the project,

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<v S2>like the Houthis in the Red sea. Iran sits at

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<v S2>the narrow band between the Gulf of Oman and the

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<v S2>Persian Gulf. They've blocked oil shipments there before. However, a

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<v S2>road and rail link through the United Arab Emirates, through

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<v S2>Saudi Arabia and Jordan to Israel's port at Ashdod could

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<v S2>help bypass that blocking point. Now, the major stumbling block

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<v S2>to such a deal remains lack of a peace treaty

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<v S2>between Saudi Arabia and Israel. But while Europe and the U.S.

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<v S2>have in the past tried to force a deal on

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<v S2>Israel because of pressure from the oil producing states. President

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<v S2>Trump is presenting a vision for a deal in which

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<v S2>everyone who participates comes out on top, and that's a

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<v S2>great incentive to get everyone to buy into it. If

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<v S2>you joined us midstream, you're listening to The Land and

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<v S2>the book. I'm John Gager, and in this opening segment,

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<v S2>we're looking at current events based in the Middle East.

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<v S2>Our expert and host, Doctor Charlie Dyer, returns next week

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<v S2>from his assignment. But let's continue now with our look

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<v S2>at the top stories. Number three, watching the interaction of

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<v S2>all the countries and groups in the Middle East is

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<v S2>like watching the ever shifting shapes in a kaleidoscope. So

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<v S2>what do you say we take a kind of a

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<v S2>walk around the latest events in places like Syria, Turkey

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<v S2>and Saudi Arabia? Here we go. In Syria, the army

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<v S2>that is now aligned with the new administration has openly

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<v S2>fought with Hezbollah. Hezbollah tried to advance into a stronghold

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<v S2>they previously held in Syria, but were repulsed by the

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<v S2>Syrian Army. The Syrian Army then entered a town on

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<v S2>the Lebanese side of the border, forcing the Hezbollah forces

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<v S2>to retreat further into Lebanon. Now there's no love lost

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<v S2>between the Sunni forces now controlling Syria and the Shiite

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<v S2>Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon, supported by Iran. This border war

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<v S2>could become more active as Iran tries to resupply Hezbollah.

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<v S2>Iran and Turkey are also vying for control in the region.

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<v S2>Turkey's President Erdogan is claiming that Iran is planning to

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<v S2>send drones to the Kurds in Syria to fight against

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<v S2>Turkish forces. Now, the Kurds had been our ally, but

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<v S2>in their fight against Turkey, they will apparently seek help

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<v S2>from any source willing to provide arms. Meanwhile, Turkey is

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<v S2>trying to build a modern version of the Ottoman Empire

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<v S2>with their brand of a Sunni religious caliphate controlling the

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<v S2>region from Istanbul. And Turkey's influence in Syria could bring

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<v S2>it into conflict with Israel should Turkish forces end up

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<v S2>on Israel's northern border. This is especially troubling given Turkey's

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<v S2>ideological alignment with groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and

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<v S2>even the jihadist al-Nusra group now controlling Syria. Saudi Arabia

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<v S2>would also like to be a major regional player in

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<v S2>the Middle East. They don't have the population of Turkey

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<v S2>or Iran, but they do have incredible oil wealth and

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<v S2>closer connections to the Sunni Arab states and to the west.

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<v S2>Saudi Arabia would also like to be a major player

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<v S2>in a regional security arrangement between the Gulf states, Israel,

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<v S2>and the United States. The Abraham Accords are the initial

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<v S2>basis for such an agreement. But the main sticking point

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<v S2>is the issue of a Palestinian state. So can a

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<v S2>trade alliance like the one just mentioned help overcome those obstacles? Well,

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<v S2>I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Story

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<v S2>number four. Archaeologists in Egypt have announced the discovery of

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<v S2>the lost tomb of Pharaoh Thutmose the second. Maybe you're

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<v S2>curious what exactly was discovered and how significant is this find? Well,

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<v S2>it turns out the actual discovery isn't nearly as spectacular

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<v S2>as that of the tomb of Pharaoh Tutankhamun back in 1922.

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<v S2>There was no sarcophagus or golden face mask or other

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<v S2>hoard of chariots, beds, jewelry or intact alabaster jars. Truthfully,

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<v S2>the tomb was in a poor state of preservation, apparently

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<v S2>because of flood damage shortly after the king's death. However,

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<v S2>fragments of alabaster vases, along with texts and paint fragments

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<v S2>were discovered, and they helped identify the tomb as that

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<v S2>of Pharaoh Thutmose the second, whose mummy had been discovered

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<v S2>in the 1800s. Now, what makes this find significant, at

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<v S2>least for those of us who take the book of

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<v S2>Exodus literally, is that throughout, most of the second plays

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<v S2>a minor role in the time of Israel. In Egypt,

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<v S2>his father, Thutmose the first, would seem to be the

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<v S2>pharaoh who gave the order to kill the Hebrew boys

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<v S2>that were born. Thutmose the second was then married to

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<v S2>his sister Hatshepsut. Now follow this. She is likely the

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<v S2>pharaoh's daughter, the very one who rescued and raised Moses. Well,

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<v S2>there's a lot more details to this whole story, but

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<v S2>the bottom line is this discovery might simply be the

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<v S2>tomb of a minor pharaoh, but it does help fill

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<v S2>in the details of the account of the first 40

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<v S2>years of Moses life in Exodus one and two. Boy,

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<v S2>that is amazing, right? Hey, we'd love for you to

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<v S2>check out the podcast at the Land and the book. Org. Also,

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<v S2>we'd love for you to email your question. That question

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<v S2>that's been nagging you as you go through Scripture and wonder,

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<v S2>what's that there for? Email your question to the land

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<v S2>and the book@moody.edu. Just ahead, a fascinating look at people

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<v S2>in Scripture who memorize scripture. We've got some compelling examples

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<v S2>for you, and some bonus tips for your own Bible

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<v S2>memory as well. On the land and the book. Oh sure,

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<v S2>you've heard you're supposed to memorize the Bible, but what

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<v S2>about the people in the pages of Scripture itself? Did

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<v S2>any of them memorize whatever portions of the Bible they

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<v S2>had back then? Coming up, a fascinating look at people

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<v S2>in Scripture who memorized Scripture. We've got some pretty compelling

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<v S2>examples for you and some bonus tips as well. A

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<v S2>welcome to the second segment of Moody Radio's broadcast The

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<v S2>Land and the book. I'm John Gager, inviting you to

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<v S2>envision with me what it might look like to take

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<v S2>just another step in walking with your Jewish friend or co-worker.

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<v S2>So I've noticed in the past that when I try

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<v S2>to bring up Messiah Yeshua with a Jewish friend. Invariably,

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<v S2>the conversation comes to a screeching halt. It's not like

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<v S2>there's an openness toward further discussion, even when there's a

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<v S2>friendship that pre-exists. What's going on? Let me ask Justin

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<v S2>Cronin of Chosen People Ministries. What's going on?

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<v S3>Yeah, John, I think we need to understand that it's

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<v S3>been drilled into the hearts and minds of Jewish people

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<v S3>for decades, for centuries, that Jesus is not for Jews.

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<v S3>And if a Jewish person were to embrace Jesus as

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<v S3>their Messiah, they're going to be rejected by their family,

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<v S3>by their closest friends. And so when they weigh the cost,

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<v S3>their immediate thought is, no, I'm not going to lose

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<v S3>those friendships. I'm not going to lose my respect, if

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<v S3>you will, within my community.

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<v S2>My standing.

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<v S3>And my standing. And so it's just an immediate reaction

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<v S3>of nope, not interested, don't want to go there. I

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<v S3>don't want to deal with that pain or that struggle

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<v S3>that might come as a result of even considering that

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<v S3>Jesus might be the Messiah.

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<v S2>So what's a reasonable response to that? Well, just. And

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<v S2>I will have to pick that up in a conversation

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<v S2>in the future. Justin Crone is with Chosen People Ministries

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<v S2>and joins us today on the Land and the book.

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<v S2>Professor Tom Meyer, the Bible Memory Man, is a guest

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<v S2>speaker at churches and conferences where he presents the Bible

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<v S2>spoken dramatically from memory in an engaging and powerful manner.

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<v S2>Tom is also a professor at Shasta Bible College and

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<v S2>the author of the Memorization Study Bible. He's become kind

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<v S2>of a fan favorite here on the program. So welcome

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<v S2>back to the land and the book. Tom.

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<v S4>Thank you. Great to be back.

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<v S2>Well, the notion of people in Scripture, memorizing scripture goes

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<v S2>all the way back to the Israelites. Take us to

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<v S2>Joshua chapter one and the scene that unfolds there. Tom.

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<v S4>Well, that's a great place to start. You know, we

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<v S4>have these verses in Deuteronomy that remind us of the

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<v S4>the family educational structure where we had verses in the

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<v S4>Torah like, you know, repeat them again and again to

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<v S4>your children. Talk about them when you're at home, while

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<v S4>you're on the road, when you're getting up from Deuteronomy six,

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<v S4>as you know. And so with this knowledge that the

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<v S4>children of Israel now have, of the word of the

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<v S4>living God, and just about to enter into Canaan, Joshua

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<v S4>receives a divine revelation. And that is the instruction that

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<v S4>this book of the law shall not depart out of

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<v S4>your mouth, but you shall meditate therein day and night,

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<v S4>that you may be able to do according to all

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<v S4>that is written therein. Then shall you make your ways prosperous,

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<v S4>then shall you will have good success. So once that

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<v S4>seven year war, when you do the math, it's the

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<v S4>conquest of seven years. You can deduce that from chapter

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<v S4>14 of Joshua. But after that seven year war, these

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<v S4>unconquered Canaanites that you're living next to are quote unquote,

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<v S4>going to work with. They don't think in practice like

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<v S4>you do. And in order for the ancient Israelites not

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<v S4>to become like them, they were to do what? To

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<v S4>have this book of the law not depart out of

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<v S4>their mouth. To have those words that their parents taught

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<v S4>them when they were children, that they repeated to them

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<v S4>over and over and over again, would have dwelt inside them,

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<v S4>and they would make the right choice when no one

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<v S4>is looking. Well, except God. That they would obey God's law.

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<v S2>Well, we see the command for a lifestyle of memorizing

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<v S2>scripture as far back as the book of Deuteronomy. Take

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<v S2>us there.

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<v S4>It's true. Like I touched on earlier, you know, we

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<v S4>have that famous verse from chapter six, which is kind

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<v S4>of repeated again in chapter 11 where we have these,

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<v S4>these admonitions again and again to recite God's instructions from memory,

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<v S4>lest they be forgotten. And it's so easy to forget,

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<v S4>isn't it? I mean, that's why the ancient Israelites, even

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<v S4>to this day, some of them wear tassels, don't they?

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<v S2>That's right.

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<v S4>And it's so easy to forget, because behind these wondrous

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<v S4>acts like, you know, the exodus out of Egypt and etcetera, right?

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<v S4>So the loving, faithful and fearful God who doesn't change,

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<v S4>and these accounts of God's deliverance, these works of Yahweh,

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<v S4>were to be taught to all generations. This is the

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<v S4>basis for godly living. This is the basis for obedience.

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<v S4>This is our God. And then, you know, then they

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<v S4>could speak. And God spake all these words, saying, I

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<v S4>am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of

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<v S4>the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage, etc.

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<v S4>because they were there, they were eyewitnesses. Many of them

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<v S4>were right at the giving of the Torah. And so

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<v S4>whether it's in Deuteronomy with this emphasis, like we touched

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<v S4>on right in chapter six and 11 with the family education,

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<v S4>or whether it's after that event in the wilderness wanderings

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<v S4>and about to enter into the back door of Canaan

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<v S4>and attack Jericho from beginning to end, is that the

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<v S4>spiritual condition of people's hearts was was most important to God.

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<v S4>And having the word hidden in the heart, of course,

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<v S4>is the best way not to sin against them. As

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<v S4>David would later say.

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<v S2>People in Scripture who memorized scripture, that's our conversation on

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<v S2>the land and the book with professor Tom Meyer, the

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<v S2>Bible Memory man. You know, David himself offered us one

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<v S2>of the most famous statements about Scripture memory in Psalm

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<v S2>119 verse 111. Some of our listeners can quote it,

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<v S2>but why don't you take us there, Tom?

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<v S4>That's a great passage to go to, John. Remember to

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<v S4>start in verse nine where it says wherewithal, or how

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<v S4>shall the young man cleanse his way? That's the million

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<v S4>dollar question that we want for us and our kids

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<v S4>and our grandkids, right? Right. How do we clean our way?

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<v S4>How do we walk with the Lord? How do we

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<v S4>walk in the spirit, etc.? Wherewithal? Or how shall men

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<v S4>cleanse his way? By taking heed thereto according to thy word,

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<v S4>with my whole heart? O let me not wander from

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<v S4>thy commandments. And here we go, the famous one. Thy

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<v S4>word have I hid in my heart that I might

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<v S4>not sin against thee. So that's the number one reason why,

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<v S4>whether we live in the economy, the era of the

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<v S4>children of Israel way back when, or the church today,

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<v S4>God's people have always been instructed to hide His word

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<v S4>in their heart, so they don't sin against him. And

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<v S4>God has, as you know, John, he has no greater

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<v S4>joy than his children walk in truth, just like we

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<v S4>who are parents have no greater joy than when our

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<v S4>children walk in truth. And what greater truth to walk

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<v S4>in than the light of his word?

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<v S2>King Solomon was big on Scripture memory. Where do we

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<v S2>find the evidence for that, Tom?

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<v S4>Yeah, he does seem to be big on his scripture memory,

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<v S4>but when he got older, it seemed maybe like it

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<v S4>didn't stick as much as it did right when he

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<v S4>was younger. You know, and that's a warning to us, right?

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<v S4>Even the devil can quote scripture, right? Yeah. He quotes

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<v S4>Psalm 91, doesn't he? And Matthew chapter four, I believe

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<v S4>when he's tempting the Lord Jesus. But you're right. Solomon

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<v S4>was a product in many ways of his environment. That

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<v S4>is to say, he lived in a world where the

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<v S4>student was the son and the teacher's the father. That

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<v S4>kind of mindset. And so we have that phraseology or

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<v S4>proverbs a lot like my son, write these words upon

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<v S4>the table of thine heart. Well that's perfect. There it is.

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<v S4>Write these words on the tablet, depending on your translation

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<v S4>of your heart, because the author knows that the heart

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<v S4>is the inner control center of the person, you know,

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<v S4>the heart is the part of us that the Lord

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<v S4>is most concerned with, because out of it come all

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<v S4>the issues of life, and with a well-stocked heart, full

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<v S4>of Torah, of the oracles of the living God. Then ideally,

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<v S4>we won't sin against him.

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<v S2>Professor Tom Meyer, the Bible Memory man, is a guest

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<v S2>speaker at churches and conferences where he presents the Bible

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<v S2>spoken dramatically from memory in an engaging and powerful manner.

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<v S2>Hey Tom, let's switch gears and move into the New

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<v S2>Testament in Matthew 538. Jesus told everyday people in the

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<v S2>first century, you have heard that it was said, sounds

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<v S2>to me like he's referring to commonly known scripture. Your thoughts?

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<v S4>It is true, John. You know, they lived in a

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<v S4>world so much different than ours, didn't they? In many ways, yes,

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<v S4>it's the same God yesterday, today and forever. Right? But

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<v S4>on the other hand, they lived on the other side

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<v S4>of the world in an oral world. We live in

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<v S4>a in a written world in many regards. You know,

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<v S4>so these people in the first century way obviously before then. Right.

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<v S4>The only way to get access to the word of

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<v S4>the living God is to hear it read aloud in

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<v S4>a church service. Once the church is born on Pentecost,

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<v S4>or one of the the high holy feasts in the temple,

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<v S4>as you know, three times a year. But by going

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<v S4>to those events at the temple, you know, Josephus says

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<v S4>that they know the Word of God better than their

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<v S4>own name. And so these people, the Lord Jesus is

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<v S4>talking to, they're not fools. These people are well versed,

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<v S4>even though they live far away from Jerusalem in the Galilee.

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<v S4>You know, they're well versed in the history of God's people.

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<v S4>And they knew his word. And when you have verses

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<v S4>like that, it goes to show us that we have

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<v S4>people like King David, right. Who's a king who memorized

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<v S4>God's Word. We have prophets, right, who memorize God's Word.

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<v S4>And we have common people here, perfect, right, who hide

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<v S4>God's Word in their heart, just like us.

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<v S2>Paul was probably the Scripture memory overachiever of his day.

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<v S2>Paul quotes Luke's Gospel in first Timothy 518, but there's

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<v S2>a whole lot more than that. Take us, for example,

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<v S2>to Colossians 116. If I'm not being too specific to

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<v S2>draw on that.

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<v S4>Well, um, there are almost like 300 Quotes. Just like

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<v S4>direct quotes from what I can count from the Old

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<v S4>Testament in the New Testament. Okay, by the author. So

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<v S4>that means the authors had all of those quotes memorized

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<v S4>when the Holy Spirit inspired them to move them along.

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<v S4>What they wrote, they wrote it without error, but they

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<v S4>used their own personality and backgrounds to draw upon all

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<v S4>those memorized verses that they had, and no one was

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<v S4>better at that, like you said, than than Paul, who

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<v S4>sat at the feet of Gamaliel. Right. As a young

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<v S4>Jewish student. Right. He would have known the Torah backwards

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<v S4>and forwards, up and down, left and right. And he

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<v S4>brought that skill set, didn't he?

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<v S2>I just want to look at this. Verse 16. It says,

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<v S2>for by him all things were created in heaven and

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<v S2>on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or

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<v S2>rulers or authorities, all things were created through him and

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<v S2>for him. And that would include Scripture itself.

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<v S4>It would 100%. But I was thinking more along the

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<v S4>lines of like 316.

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<v S2>Okay, go for 316 then. Yeah.

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<v S4>Because that's the one that says that's a good one too.

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<v S4>You mentioned, but that the command to let the word

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<v S4>of Christ dwell in you. You know the word richly?

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<v S2>Yeah.

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<v S4>Where do we let the word of Christ dwell richly

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<v S4>on our phone? No. On our bookshelf? No. In your heart.

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<v S4>In us. And then, as you know, he says it

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<v S4>a different way, doesn't he, in Ephesians, when he commands

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<v S4>us to to speak to one another in psalms and

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<v S4>hymns and spiritual songs. So during our downtime, when we're

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<v S4>standing in line at the store, whether we're in traffic

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<v S4>or whatever, one of the best ways to redeem that

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<v S4>time is not only to pray, to let our requests

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<v S4>be made known unto God, but also during that downtime

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<v S4>is to speak to ourselves in psalms and hymns and

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<v S4>spiritual songs, and by doing that by reciting the Word

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<v S4>of God to ourselves, it puts the mind of the

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<v S4>living God right there. And we don't always act on

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<v S4>what we know to be true. We know it's more

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<v S4>precious than rubies. We know it's more to be desired

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<v S4>than anything. It's more precious than gold. The Word of God. Right?

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<v S4>And to be able in that downtime, to have that

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<v S4>and reach and think on it and dwell on it,

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<v S4>you do it all the time. You understand how it works, right?

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<v S4>The benefits are amazing.

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<v S2>Yeah. For sure. In Ephesians 519, Paul commands believers to

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<v S2>be speaking to yourself in Psalms. We've referenced this, uh,

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<v S2>you know, wouldn't you love to know how much scripture

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<v S2>Paul memorized?

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<v S4>Well, he would be the first one, probably to tell

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<v S4>you that he would have never counted the verses. I

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<v S4>know verses don't come in until the 16th century AD,

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<v S4>and and chapters don't come in until approximately the 12th

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<v S4>century AD, but still, you know, he was the kind

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<v S4>of guy you would think, right, who was humble, who

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<v S4>was meek, right? Who believed in the power of the

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<v S4>word of God. And that's just it. You know, at

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<v S4>the early church services, he commanded them in first Timothy

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<v S4>chapter four, verse 13, until I come to devote yourself

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<v S4>to the public reading of Scripture, see, even to this

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<v S4>very day when I lived in Jerusalem for four years,

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<v S4>I would ask the cantors, the the leaders in the synagogue,

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<v S4>how did the people memorize to this day in Jerusalem

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<v S4>and the synagogues? And they would tell me by hearing it,

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<v S4>read the scriptures, read aloud. So 2000 years later, this

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<v S4>tradition still exists. So by the public proclamation in first

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<v S4>Timothy 413 of the scriptures, that's how really in that

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<v S4>early church period where no one had a copy at home,

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<v S4>where you could hear the Word of God, where you

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<v S4>could meditate it, and then you could memorize it.

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<v S2>Well, is it an overstatement to say that a Christian

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<v S2>cannot fully please God without an ongoing lifestyle of Scripture memory?

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<v S4>Oh, I don't know about that. That's a big one there.

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<v S4>You know, it's like I grew up most of my

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<v S4>life when all I knew was John 316 and Genesis

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<v S4>one one, so I was I still please God. But

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<v S4>I think the way I would put it is I

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<v S4>was I was not fully equipped. Yeah, but I was

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<v S4>just left so much on the table. Yes. You know,

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<v S4>and to have that word in your heart, no matter

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<v S4>where you are, no matter what you're doing, it not

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<v S4>only puts the mind of God within reach, it provides

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<v S4>you with words of comfort for yourself, for others. It

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<v S4>provides us with our weapon of choice, etc..

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<v S2>Well, what's a first step for somebody who says, you know,

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<v S2>I'm hearing what you're saying. I, you know, I'd like

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<v S2>to do this. I want to memorize, but I struggle.

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<v S2>My mind just doesn't seem to be able to retain scripture.

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<v S2>It doesn't retain anything anymore. What's your counsel for us?

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<v S4>Join the club. Welcome to humanity. I forget everything all

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<v S4>the time. I have to write it down. But in

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<v S4>all seriousness, the best way to go about this ancient

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<v S4>but all important discipline is the number one. Ask the

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<v S4>Lord Jesus to help you. Ask for help. I know

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<v S4>it sounds like. What? No, but seriously, ask him to

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<v S4>help you. Number one. Number two. Pick something with light

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<v S4>at the end of the tunnel. Like you memorize some psalms, John? Yes,

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<v S4>something like that. Something that's doable. Right. And then shoot

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<v S4>for 1 or 2 verses a week and you'll see

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<v S4>that it's difficult. Okay. It's hard. It's like exercising. And

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<v S4>then some people do it when the new year starts,

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<v S4>you know they don't want to do it, but they're

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<v S4>glad they've done it down the road. Right. Because they

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<v S4>see the results. And this is just bodily exercise which

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<v S4>profits little. Okay. Start memorizing chapters, verses, etc. and you'll

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<v S4>see over time how it's going to have more of

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<v S4>the mind of Christ in you. It'll transform your thinking.

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<v S4>It'll transform your practice. It will make you hopefully a

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<v S4>better father, a better friend, a better, etc. because you

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<v S4>have more of that mind of Christ in you.

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<v S5>Yes.

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<v S2>Well, that's a great encouragement, Tom, for all of us.

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<v S2>And I thank you for your insights. People in Scripture

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<v S2>who memorize Scripture. We're talking today with Tom Meyer, who's

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<v S2>kind of the Bible memory man. Thanks for your conversation, Tom.

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<v S5>Thank you.

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<v S2>Coming up on the land and the book, we're looking

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<v S2>at a fresh set of Bible questions. Stick around for

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<v S2>more on the land and the book. Here at the

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<v S2>land of the book, we really love what we do,

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<v S2>and we really love it when people like you make

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<v S2>the effort to send your Bible questions our way, because

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<v S2>there's nothing better than wrestling with some of these issues

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<v S2>and in most cases, finding some answers. Of course, we

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<v S2>can't find an answer to every single question you might have,

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<v S2>but there's an awful lot of it that we can. Hi,

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<v S2>I'm John Gager sitting with me in the studio, doctor

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<v S2>Gerald Peterman of the Moody Bible Institute. Faculty capable and qualified.

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<v S2>He's got plenty of enthusiasm and his Bible is open.

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<v S2>And let's get right to our questions after I talk

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<v S2>to you about a Seder. What does Passover mean for

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<v S2>us as believers in Jesus? Some might remember the story

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<v S2>from the book of Exodus, but there's a whole lot

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<v S2>more to it. You know, the Last Supper was really

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<v S2>a Passover meal. And not only did Jesus and his

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<v S2>disciples celebrate Passover, it also foreshadowed his death on the

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<v S2>cross for our redemption. Jewish people, of course, have been

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<v S2>observing the feast of Passover for thousands of years. So

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<v S2>understanding the history, the importance of this holiday will help

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<v S2>us better connect with our Jewish friends and neighbors. Boy,

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<v S2>what better way is there to learn about Passover than

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<v S2>to experience a Passover Seder yourself? If you've never celebrated Passover? Well,

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<v S2>our friends at Life in Messiah would love to partner

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<v S2>with you in hosting a Seder experience. Every year their

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<v S2>staff engaged churches and small groups in an interactive Messiah

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<v S2>in the Passover Seder, allowing participants to taste and see

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<v S2>the redemption story. And if you're interested in having somebody

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<v S2>come to lead a Seder in your area, your church,

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<v S2>visit life in Messiah. Org and click on the Moody

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<v S2>Radio button there to learn more. That's life in messiah.org.

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<v S2>Ready for our first question?

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<v S6>Yes, sir.

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<v S2>This one from Peggy, who is currently in a Bible

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<v S2>study about heaven. And she says one of the Catholic

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<v S2>ladies at our study brought up the Apostle's Creed and

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<v S2>the part that says Jesus descended into hell. Since Jesus

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<v S2>is God and hell is separation from God. I commented

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<v S2>that perhaps there's a different meaning to that part of

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<v S2>the Apostle's Creed. Another person tied this in with revelation

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<v S2>118 and said, Jesus descended to hell to get the

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<v S2>keys to free the saints who had been waiting to

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<v S2>go to heaven. Is there any scripture to back up

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<v S2>any of these thoughts?

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<v S7>Creeds are very important, and there are creeds in and

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<v S7>outside of Scripture, and the Apostles Creed is one of

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<v S7>the oldest ones. But we should keep in mind that

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<v S7>the Creed developed over the course of time in the

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<v S7>early church. So the Apostles Creed is first developed in

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<v S7>the second century, and then it's changed and transformed. And

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<v S7>the oldest written version of that creed is called the

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<v S7>Old Roman Creed, that dates to around 340 A.D., and

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<v S7>this oldest version makes no reference to a descent into hell.

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<v S7>The descent into hell was added to the Creed about

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<v S7>a century later, and the Book of Common Prayer, used

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<v S7>by the Anglican Church uses the old version of the

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<v S7>Creed without the descent into hell. So I just want

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<v S7>to say that not all Christians believe in a descent

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<v S7>into hell, and no passage of Scripture specifically mentions one.

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<v S7>Yet a verse that sometimes used is Ephesians four eight

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<v S7>and nine. They say, therefore it says, when he ascended

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<v S7>on high, he led host captives, and then he gave

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<v S7>gifts to men in saying he ascended, what does it

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<v S7>mean but that he also descended to the lower regions,

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<v S7>that is the earth. Here the descent is coming down

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<v S7>from heaven to earth in becoming human. Now about our

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<v S7>Lord Jesus freeing people from hell. There are very good

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<v S7>reasons to believe that rather than going to hell temporarily

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<v S7>when God's people die, they go instead to a place

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<v S7>of comfort and blessing. Let me mention a couple of these.

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<v S7>In Luke 16, our Lord tells a parable about the

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<v S7>rich man and Lazarus. I suggest you read it. It

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<v S7>is wonderful. After the death of the rich man, he

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<v S7>goes to a place of torment and punishment. But Lazarus

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<v S7>goes to a place of comfort next to Abraham. Likewise,

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<v S7>in Luke, Jesus promises to the thief on the cross

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<v S7>that at death he will be with Jesus in Paradise

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<v S7>that day. And in Philippians one, Paul says that at

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<v S7>death he will be with Christ. Now, as for the keys,

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<v S7>this passage is revelation one, verses 17 and 18. I'm

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<v S7>going to read that. Then I saw him. I fell

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<v S7>at his feet as though dead. But he laid his

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<v S7>hand on me, saying, fear not. I am the first

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<v S7>and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold,

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<v S7>I am alive forevermore. I have the keys of death

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<v S7>and Hades. When one has keys, one has power and authority.

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<v S7>So death and hell have no power over Jesus. He

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<v S7>has power over them.

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<v S2>That's Doctor Gerald Peterman, who's happy to answer your Bible

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<v S2>questions with an email to the land and the book@moody.edu.

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<v S2>Helen talks about a friend who was studying Joshua at

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<v S2>the end of his life. He's challenging the people to

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<v S2>continue to follow the true God, and he set up

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<v S2>a stone of witness. And she was thinking about Jesus

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<v S2>on Palm Sunday when he said that if the people

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<v S2>were quiet, even the rocks would cry out. And she

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<v S2>wonders if he was referring to the stones of witness

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<v S2>in the Old Testament. I'd never taken it that way,

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<v S2>but I was curious. Do we know if there were

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<v S2>any stones of witness near where Jesus was when he

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<v S2>said that?

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<v S7>It's hard to say that so many centuries have passed

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<v S7>with comings and goings and buildings and war. There's no

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<v S7>evidence of ancient witness stones like the ones set up

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<v S7>at the time of Joshua. But if you've ever traveled

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<v S7>in Israel, and I hope you get a chance to

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<v S7>do that, then you know that the territory can be

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<v S7>very rocky, very uneven, very difficult. And as our Lord

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<v S7>is coming in to Jerusalem in Luke 19, this is

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<v S7>the triumphal entry. This is the passage we're talking about.

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<v S7>The Pharisees hear the crowd saying about Jesus, Blessed is

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<v S7>the King who comes in the name of the Lord.

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<v S7>And they say, teacher, rebuke your disciples. And Jesus says

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<v S7>in response, I tell you, if they keep silent, the

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<v S7>stones will cry out. There will be stones all around

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<v S7>on the path. And again, when our Lord is tempted

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<v S7>by the devil, he says, if you're the Son of God,

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<v S7>command these stones to become bread, because they're just all

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<v S7>over the place. Right. So it's very rocky territory.

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<v S2>Okay. This is the land in the book from Moody

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<v S2>Radio doctor Gerald Peterman answering our Bible questions like this

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<v S2>one from Mary, who takes us to second Samuel 12,

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<v S2>verse eight, where Nathan tells David what God said of David,

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<v S2>I gave your master's house to you and your master's

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<v S2>wives into your arms, and I gave you the house

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<v S2>of Israel and Judah. And if that wasn't enough, I

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<v S2>would have given you even more. She wants to know

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<v S2>is this verse saying that God gave David more than

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<v S2>one wife, and that he approved of David's polygamy? Doesn't

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<v S2>Romans 325 indicate that God passed over some sins, particularly

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<v S2>that of adultery, among Old Testament saints?

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<v S7>Oh, thanks so much for the question. God did not

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<v S7>and does not approve of polygamy during the time period

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<v S7>of Israel's kings, God was tolerating it. One of the

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<v S7>reasons that Saul's family comes to David is that that

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<v S7>family needs a provider and a protector. Saul dies, all

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<v S7>of Saul's sons die in war. Who's going to take

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<v S7>care of the family? So the family comes to David

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<v S7>so he can be their protector. But again, God does

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<v S7>not approve of multiple wives. We know this. We know

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<v S7>this from Deuteronomy 17. In Deuteronomy 17, we hear this Israel,

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<v S7>when you go into the land and you want a king,

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<v S7>this is what the king should do. The king should

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<v S7>not multiply wives for himself. Deuteronomy 1717. So monogamy, one husband,

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<v S7>one wife has always been God's pattern. We see that

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<v S7>in Ephesians five. We see that in the book of Proverbs.

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<v S7>And of course we see it in Genesis one and two.

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<v S7>Now there was also a question about Romans 325 about

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<v S7>God passing over sins. This is an important passage, so

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<v S7>let's read it in its context. Verses 24 and 25

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<v S7>say we were justified by his grace as a gift

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<v S7>through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God

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<v S7>put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be

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<v S7>received by faith. This is to show God's righteousness, because

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<v S7>in his divine forbearance he passed over former sins. The

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<v S7>passing over former sins is not punishing them to the

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<v S7>degree they deserved. Old Testament sacrifices did not punish our

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<v S7>sins to the degree they deserved that punishment. All of

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<v S7>it went on. Jesus.

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<v S2>Eric takes us to Proverbs 18, which speaks about the

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<v S2>mouth and the power of our words. Proverbs 18 verses

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<v S2>seven and 21. Eric wants to know, is the writer

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<v S2>referring to words coming from the mouth as having the

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<v S2>potential to be harmful for your soul, as well as

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<v S2>bringing forth good results or bad results in the lives

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<v S2>of others?

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<v S7>Yes, that is so right. Words have the potential to

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<v S7>be very helpful and very destructive. I'm sure many of

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<v S7>our listeners have experienced that. A harsh and critical word

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<v S7>spoken in anger can be very discouraging or cause a

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<v S7>rift in a relationship, but a timely word of encouragement

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<v S7>can be just what is needed for someone who's discouraged,

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<v S7>I'm reminded of James chapter three. The tongue is a fire,

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<v S7>a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members,

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<v S7>staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course

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<v S7>of life for every kind of beast and bird or

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<v S7>reptile or sea creature can be tamed and has been

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<v S7>tamed by man. But no human being can tame the tongue.

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<v S7>It's a restless evil, full of deadly poisons. So we

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<v S7>should be very careful. Speech is a gift of God.

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<v S2>Restless, full of deadly poison. That's our tongues. Wow. Good morning.

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<v S2>Good words. There. Thank you, Doctor Peterman. Talk about the

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<v S2>value of an interlinear Bible as we search through these

0:35:52.530 --> 0:35:54.840
<v S2>questions that we've got. What is an interlinear Bible? Somebody

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<v S2>might ask.

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<v S7>An interlinear is where you have your first language. Say

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<v S7>your first language is English an English translation. And then

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<v S7>right below it or right above it, you have the

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<v S7>original language, whether that language is Greek or Hebrew. So

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<v S7>you can kind of see how they're related. So you

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<v S7>can kind of begin to get a feel for your

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<v S7>Bible's original languages by way of using your interlinear.

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<v S2>So an interlinear Bible, if you were to purchase one,

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<v S2>is quite expensive. However, I routinely use one online. If

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<v S2>you just do a Google search for Interlinear Bible Bingo,

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<v S2>you're in and you're having fun.

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<v S7>Oh, absolutely. And they're going to be several web pages

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<v S7>where you can access these.

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<v S2>So it's a great way to study the Bible for

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<v S2>yourself and get to the original languages for yourself. So

0:36:35.820 --> 0:36:39.300
<v S2>check out Interlinear Bible next time you're online. Well, we've

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<v S2>got another segment to come on the broadcast. Want to

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<v S2>say thank you to Gerald Peterman, who returns next week

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<v S2>with Charlie Dyer is back with his devotional next here

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<v S2>on the land and the book. If you like the

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<v S2>book of Isaiah, I do. We're headed there next here

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<v S2>on the land and the book. Welcome back to this

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<v S2>fourth and final segment. It's Charlie Dyer's devotional. Charlie, I'm

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<v S2>intrigued with your title, Shebna Tomb. I'm saying to myself,

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<v S2>who is Shebna? Where is his tomb and why should

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<v S2>we care so much?

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<v S8>Yeah, and I think most people are going. Yeah, I

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<v S8>don't recall that name either. Hopefully by the time we're done,

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<v S8>it'll be unforgettable for them.

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<v S2>All right. Let's pause first, though, and check in with

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<v S2>an Israel traveler who has an experience that they want

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<v S2>to relate to us now in this testimony.

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<v S9>This was an amazing trip. It just brings the Bible

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<v S9>to life. When I teach the children about places in

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<v S9>the Bible, I can relate to them and tell them

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<v S9>where they've been and it. I've also known and learned

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<v S9>a lot that the wilderness is not a group of trees,

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<v S9>and it's just amazing how awesome the country of Israel

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<v S9>is and just brings the Bible to life and really

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<v S9>enjoy it.

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<v S10>My name is Anne, and I would just like to

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<v S10>say in my 40 some odd years of studying the

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<v S10>Bible in a Bible teaching church, I never realized what

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<v S10>the wilderness really looked like. And on this trip, to

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<v S10>see that, and to know that Naomi and Ruth traveled

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<v S10>over that land and that Christ was in the wilderness.

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<v S10>And just to see the difference in what I thought

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<v S10>was some area that had green trees and everything, and

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<v S10>to know that it's dry rocks, hard and such a

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<v S10>hard land to travel over. It just was very moving

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<v S10>to me.

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<v S2>All right. We're continuing your series 11 inscriptions in the Bible. Right, Charlie?

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<v S8>That's right, John. And we've reached the fourth week in

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<v S8>that series. We're exploring written inscriptions uncovered by archaeologists that

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<v S8>provide insight into our understanding of God's Word. And today's

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<v S8>inscription takes us to the British Museum. Now, I love

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<v S8>exploring the British Museum. It's a virtual treasure trove of

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<v S8>artifacts tracing the history of civilization through the ages. We

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<v S8>could spend days here looking at all the different pieces,

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<v S8>but today we're heading to the upper floor to visit

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<v S8>the rooms devoted to the Middle East. And our focus

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<v S8>is an object that can easily be missed because it's

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<v S8>positioned just to the left and near the top of

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<v S8>the doorway leading into room 57. Now pause here with

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<v S8>me and look up at this rough hewn piece of

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<v S8>limestone just above our heads. That piece of stone was

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<v S8>hacked from the entrance to a tomb on the Mount

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<v S8>of Olives, just across the Kidron Valley from the original

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<v S8>city of David. You can see that it has an

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<v S8>inscription written in the ancient Hebrew script, and which was

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<v S8>partially destroyed when someone cut through the limestone to expand

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<v S8>the opening into the tomb. Now, do I detect a

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<v S8>look of disappointment on your face? There are many fascinating

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<v S8>objects here in the museum, and I get the impression

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<v S8>that this piece of limestone, with its chiseled inscription, doesn't

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<v S8>seem that interesting. And from watching others walk through the museum,

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<v S8>I know you're not alone. Most don't even stop to

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<v S8>look up at the piece, and those who do barely

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<v S8>give it a fleeting glance. But that begs the question,

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<v S8>so what are we doing here? Looking at it? Well,

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<v S8>for those who stop to read the translation and who

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<v S8>know the Bible, this inscribed piece of limestone has a

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<v S8>fascinating story to tell. As I said before, this three

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<v S8>lined inscription was carved into the rock over the entrance

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<v S8>to a tomb just across from the city of David.

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<v S8>It was discovered by a French archaeologist and eventually made

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<v S8>its way into the British Museum. Later, an Israeli epigraphist,

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<v S8>a person who specializes in studying inscriptions, determined that the

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<v S8>style of writing was the same as the inscription found

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<v S8>in Hezekiah's tunnel, meaning it was written about the same

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<v S8>time he reconstructed the inscription to read as follows. This

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<v S8>is the tomb of Shebna Yahu, the royal steward. There

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<v S8>is no silver or gold here, only his bones and

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<v S8>the bones of his maidservant. With him cursed be the

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<v S8>man who opens this. A part of the person's name

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<v S8>was missing, but there are two clues as to his identity.

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<v S8>The last part of his name was Yah or Yahoo,

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<v S8>the covenant name of God, and the individual identified himself

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<v S8>as the royal steward. The royal steward was the treasurer,

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<v S8>or in today's terms, the comptroller or CFO. He's the

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<v S8>one who controlled the royal purse strings of Judah. And

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<v S8>those clues, along with the dating of the inscription, narrowed

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<v S8>down the search for the identity of this person to

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<v S8>just one man in the Bible, a man named Shebna

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<v S8>or Shebna Yahu. And we learn about Shebna and his

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<v S8>tomb in Isaiah 22. Last week we looked at Isaiah's

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<v S8>message to Hezekiah and the people of Judah as they

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<v S8>were making preparations to defend themselves against a threatened attack

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<v S8>by Assyria. It was a time of national calamity, a

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<v S8>time when people needed to. Refocus their priorities and turn

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<v S8>to God for help. But one of the major stumbling

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<v S8>blocks was a self-centered, materialistic. What's in it for me

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<v S8>attitude that stretched all the way up into the royal

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<v S8>court and the royal steward, Shebna was perhaps one of

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<v S8>the most flagrant examples of everything that was wrong with

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<v S8>the country. Here's the message Isaiah had for Shebna. Thus

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<v S8>says the Lord God of hosts, come, go to this

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<v S8>steward to Shebna, who's in charge of the royal household.

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<v S8>What right do you have here? And whom do you

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<v S8>have here that you have hewn a tomb for yourself here?

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<v S8>You who carve a resting place for yourself in the rock.

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<v S8>The nation was on its last legs militarily, economically and spiritually,

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<v S8>and Shebna was spending all his time working on a

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<v S8>lasting monument to himself at a time when Judah needed

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<v S8>trusted leaders, the head of the royal household was acting

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<v S8>like some pharaoh, diverting resources to build himself a tomb.

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<v S8>God's judgement was very direct and appropriate. God announced through

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<v S8>Isaiah that Shebna would be deposed from his office and

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<v S8>taken captive into a foreign country, where he would die.

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<v S8>All Shebna plans for a fancy burial would be for naught.

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<v S8>He wouldn't be using the tomb he had spent so

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<v S8>much time preparing, and the only part of his memorial

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<v S8>to himself that would survive the ages would be the

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<v S8>inscription over the doorway, with most of his name chiseled

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<v S8>out by someone thousands of years later who had no

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<v S8>idea what he was defacing. Now take another look at

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<v S8>the carving. It's not particularly pretty or dramatic, but it

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<v S8>fills in the blanks on why God had Isaiah condemn

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<v S8>this royal steward named Shebna. But what lessons can we

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<v S8>take with us as we leave here today? I'd like

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<v S8>to suggest to first. Like Shebna, we also live in

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<v S8>uncertain times economically, spiritually and morally. These are times that

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<v S8>call for dedication and sacrifice on the part of all

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<v S8>who claim to be followers of Christ. But way too

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<v S8>many Christians are spending their time and their resources on

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<v S8>only themselves. God is looking for faithful stewards and that

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<v S8>involves using our resources wisely for him. Second, Isaiah ends

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<v S8>this section by announcing Shebna replacement, Eliakim. God then says

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<v S8>to this new faithful steward, I will set the key

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<v S8>of the house of David on his shoulder. When he opens,

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<v S8>no one will shut, and when he shuts, no one

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<v S8>will open, and I will drive him like a peg

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<v S8>in a firm place. It's no accident that this same

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<v S8>imagery was used later in the Book of Revelation to

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<v S8>describe Jesus as Jesus spoke to the church in Philadelphia,

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<v S8>a church which also faced difficult times, he described himself

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<v S8>this way he who is holy, who is true, who

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<v S8>has the key of David, who opens and no one

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<v S8>will shut, and who shuts, and no one opens, says

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<v S8>this I know your deeds. Behold, I have put before

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<v S8>you an open door which no one can shut, because

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<v S8>you have a little power, and have kept my word,

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<v S8>and have not denied my name. The ultimate faithful servant

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<v S8>is Jesus, and he's promised to help and protect those

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<v S8>of us who are committed to being faithful to him

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<v S8>in spite of circumstances. The museum is getting ready to close,

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<v S8>so it's time to leave. But look back at the

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<v S8>Shebna inscription one last time and ask yourself this what

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<v S8>kind of steward am I being with all that God

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<v S8>has given to me? Am I building a monument to myself,

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<v S8>or am I using the resources he's entrusted to me

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<v S8>to make an eternal difference for him? Let's make sure

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<v S8>we don't end up like Shebna. If you'd like to

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<v S8>see photos of this three lined Shebna inscription on display

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<v S8>in the British Museum along with the explanatory sign. Be

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<v S8>sure to head over to our land in the book

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<v S8>Facebook page where I'll post those pictures.

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<v S2>Thank you Charlie. You know, there's something about seeing it

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<v S2>for yourself that just brings it all alive. This is

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<v S2>not just a, you know, two dimensional. It's three dimensional.

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<v S2>It's real. It happened. Charlie, thank you for bringing our

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