WEBVTT - Legacy of Hope 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.920 World War two and the Holocaust. Everyone knows what happened 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:15.800 to Jews living in Germany, Poland, Hungary or Romania. But 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.240 the untold story of Jews in Bulgaria is one you've 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.000 got to hear. Just ahead, we'll share the odyssey of 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.360 a Jewish rabbi and an Orthodox priest who teamed up 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.320 to save 50,000 lives. It's an amazing story. Welcome to 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.159 the land and the book with our host, Doctor Charlie Dyer, 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.839 noted Old Testament scholar, Middle East expert. I'm John Gager, 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.960 and Romans 116 reminds us that the gospel is to 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.800 the Jew first and also to the Gentile. But how 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.520 do you share the gospel with a Jewish person? 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It 0:01:53.390 --> 0:01:57.350 began with intelligence gathering that showed Iran was rapidly enriching 0:01:57.350 --> 0:02:00.660 uranium to the 60% level, which would allow them to 0:02:00.660 --> 0:02:04.380 produce multiple nuclear bombs in a very short period of time. 0:02:04.740 --> 0:02:09.139 Intelligence also uncovered Iran's plans to advance nuclear weapon research, 0:02:09.300 --> 0:02:12.340 as well as plans to triple its supply of missiles 0:02:12.340 --> 0:02:16.780 from 2500 to 8000. Israel's opening strike allowed them to 0:02:16.820 --> 0:02:21.739 achieve complete surprise and establish air superiority over Iran. During 0:02:21.740 --> 0:02:25.940 those next 12 days, Israel flew 1200 missions, striking over 0:02:25.940 --> 0:02:30.020 900 targets. Israel destroyed over half of Iran's ground to 0:02:30.060 --> 0:02:33.340 ground missile launchers and about a thousand missiles before they 0:02:33.340 --> 0:02:37.980 could be launched. They also eliminated 30 senior Iranian defense officials, 0:02:37.980 --> 0:02:41.700 including the top three commanders and at least 14 top 0:02:41.700 --> 0:02:47.299 nuclear scientists. Iran launched 550 missiles at Israel. Most were 0:02:47.300 --> 0:02:52.019 shot down, but 31 impacted population areas, killing 28 and 0:02:52.020 --> 0:02:55.859 leaving about 9000 homeless because of the apartment buildings that 0:02:55.860 --> 0:02:59.890 were hit. Iran also launched over a thousand drones at Israel, 0:02:59.889 --> 0:03:02.410 although only one made it through and hit a house. 0:03:02.690 --> 0:03:05.649 There's been a debate over the ultimate success of Israel's 0:03:05.650 --> 0:03:09.530 attack in stopping Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. Now, it's 0:03:09.530 --> 0:03:13.049 not yet known what happened to the nearly £900 of 0:03:13.090 --> 0:03:16.890 uranium enriched to 60%. Did it get buried under the 0:03:16.889 --> 0:03:20.169 rubble of the facilities, or did Iran manage to spirited 0:03:20.169 --> 0:03:23.609 away and hide it? And right now, no one really knows. 0:03:23.810 --> 0:03:27.169 Despite reports that Iran could resume enriching uranium within a 0:03:27.169 --> 0:03:30.450 few months, it appears that most of their centrifuge production 0:03:30.450 --> 0:03:34.290 lines were destroyed, so their ability to enrich uranium will 0:03:34.290 --> 0:03:39.170 be greatly reduced. More significantly, their ability to convert enriched 0:03:39.210 --> 0:03:42.970 uranium gas back into a solid metal form, which is 0:03:42.970 --> 0:03:47.890 necessary for assembling a warhead, was destroyed. This bottleneck alone 0:03:47.890 --> 0:03:51.850 could set Iran's nuclear program back years. And even as 0:03:51.890 --> 0:03:56.040 Iran vows to reconstruct its nuclear program, their economy was 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.960 already hurting because of all the sanctions. Israel has also 0:03:59.960 --> 0:04:02.280 started rebuilding, though it will take time for them to 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.520 repair the hospital in Beersheba, as well as the apartments 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.520 and other buildings that were damaged. But in the end, 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.400 Israel really scored a major victory in this attack. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.960 What impact will the end of war have on the 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.440 conflict with Gaza and with the rest of the Middle East? 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.680 Well, this week could see some dramatic announcements. Both President 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.880 Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu would like to have the 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.800 hostilities in Gaza come to an end. That will be 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.440 a key topic in their meeting Monday in Washington. A 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.920 proposal on the table is for a 60 day cease 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.760 fire that would include the release of ten hostages and 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.600 18 deceased ones in phases during that time, leaving an 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:47.720 additional ten hostages and 12 deceased still in Gaza. Israel 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.880 has apparently agreed to an American demand that the talks 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.940 will lead to the war's complete end. Some coalition members, though, 0:04:54.980 --> 0:04:57.820 oppose that deal. They want the fighting to continue until 0:04:57.820 --> 0:05:01.860 Hamas is eliminated. Hamas has demanded that any deal lead 0:05:01.860 --> 0:05:04.500 to a complete end to the fighting, which in theory 0:05:04.500 --> 0:05:07.820 could allow them to remain in Gaza. Now, a second 0:05:07.820 --> 0:05:11.420 topic on the agenda this Monday will be the Abraham Accords. 0:05:11.660 --> 0:05:15.339 Trump and Netanyahu both want the Abraham Accords to expand 0:05:15.339 --> 0:05:19.380 to include Saudi Arabia and Syria. Saudi Arabia has said 0:05:19.380 --> 0:05:22.780 removing Hamas from Gaza and developing a pathway to a 0:05:22.779 --> 0:05:27.900 Palestinian state are conditions for normalization with Israel. An agreement 0:05:27.900 --> 0:05:31.260 with Syria could formally end years of hostilities between the 0:05:31.260 --> 0:05:35.180 two countries and allow Israel to keep the Golan Heights. Now, 0:05:35.180 --> 0:05:38.060 a third topic that will be discussed will be Iran. 0:05:38.339 --> 0:05:40.659 Israel would like the U.S. to give the green light 0:05:40.660 --> 0:05:44.820 for future Israeli attacks on Iran, should they become necessary. 0:05:45.180 --> 0:05:49.620 Of all those issues, the demand for Palestinian statehood and 0:05:49.620 --> 0:05:52.620 what to do with Hamas and Gaza are probably the 0:05:52.620 --> 0:05:56.890 most difficult right now. It's unclear how they can be resolved, 0:05:56.930 --> 0:05:59.050 how we'll have to wait and see what comes out 0:05:59.050 --> 0:06:01.810 of the meetings in Washington on Monday. 0:06:01.850 --> 0:06:04.050 You're listening to the first of four segments in a 0:06:04.050 --> 0:06:07.289 broadcast we call The Land and the book very Middle 0:06:07.290 --> 0:06:09.930 East focused. And our host is Doctor Charlie Dyer, who's 0:06:09.930 --> 0:06:13.330 traveled there nearly a hundred times. I'm John Gieger. This 0:06:13.330 --> 0:06:16.970 is story number three. In our continuing look at current events. 0:06:17.210 --> 0:06:22.570 In 2005, Egypt began construction on the Grand Egyptian Museum, 0:06:22.810 --> 0:06:26.409 originally scheduled to open in 2012. The project has faced 0:06:26.410 --> 0:06:29.610 more than a decade of delays. What's the latest on 0:06:29.610 --> 0:06:32.210 when this new museum will finally be open? 0:06:32.450 --> 0:06:34.810 Well, John, let me start with the positive. When this 0:06:34.810 --> 0:06:39.250 museum is fully open, it will be spectacular. The overcrowded 0:06:39.250 --> 0:06:42.530 museum in downtown Cairo, which I loved. It was like 0:06:42.529 --> 0:06:45.810 going through grandma's attic, except with King Tut being one 0:06:45.810 --> 0:06:47.969 of the pieces that's in there. Well, that's going to 0:06:47.970 --> 0:06:51.450 be replaced with this magnificent building which is located near 0:06:51.450 --> 0:06:55.640 the pyramids. Unfortunately, the project has been plagued by a 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.120 series of delays, including the Arab Spring, the uprising that 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.880 started and then followed by Covid and then a financial crisis. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:08.400 It finally opened partially in October 2024, but some of 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.560 the main exhibits, like the Tutankhamun treasures, are still located 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.080 in the old museum at that time. When it first opened, 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:21.000 they announced the museum would be fully open on July 3rd, 2025. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.120 This past week, but then on June 14th, an announcement 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.320 was posted on the museum's website saying the opening has 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.880 once again been delayed, this time till the fourth quarter 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.920 of 2025. No explanation was given. Well, that puts it, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.640 at least in theory, sometime between October and December of 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.720 this year. But their inability to meet past deadlines doesn't 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.280 instill confidence in those wanting to plan a trip when 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.440 the museum is open. The treasures on display in Egypt 0:07:50.510 --> 0:07:53.590 are simply amazing. And the new museum, it's going to 0:07:53.590 --> 0:07:57.950 provide some much needed space right now. G the Grand 0:07:57.950 --> 0:08:01.950 Egyptian Museum is still a gem in the rough, but 0:08:01.990 --> 0:08:04.870 hopefully and I say that hopefully it will be polished 0:08:04.870 --> 0:08:07.830 and ready for display before the end of the year. 0:08:08.110 --> 0:08:10.030 And when it's ready, I think it will be one 0:08:10.030 --> 0:08:12.630 of the truly great museums in the world, and it 0:08:12.630 --> 0:08:14.670 really will be one of the top things to visit 0:08:14.670 --> 0:08:16.110 if someone goes to Egypt. 0:08:16.150 --> 0:08:18.430 Charlie, it sounds wonderful, but I think, is it not 0:08:18.430 --> 0:08:22.150 true that the global concern regarding security of a basic 0:08:22.190 --> 0:08:27.550 American or any other citizen visiting there is a top concern? 0:08:28.030 --> 0:08:29.830 Well, it is, and I say it this way. You know, 0:08:29.870 --> 0:08:32.510 when you go to Israel or go to some other countries, uh, 0:08:32.510 --> 0:08:35.750 there are, uh, struggles between the Israelis and the Arabs 0:08:35.750 --> 0:08:38.670 or between other groups. But the tourists weren't the subject 0:08:38.670 --> 0:08:42.030 of attack in Egypt. They've had a history of attacking 0:08:42.070 --> 0:08:45.750 tourists because tourism is such a vital part of the economy. Uh, 0:08:45.750 --> 0:08:48.070 the last couple of years it's been relatively safe. But 0:08:48.070 --> 0:08:50.780 that still is a problem, and certainly this will make 0:08:50.780 --> 0:08:53.300 it one of the targets for terrorists who want to 0:08:53.300 --> 0:08:55.100 try and bring the Egyptian government down. 0:08:55.620 --> 0:08:59.740 How safe is your financial information online? Did the recent 0:08:59.740 --> 0:09:05.140 discovery of 16 billion passwords and credentials released online make 0:09:05.140 --> 0:09:09.300 you nervous? Well, an Israeli startup called Unibeam believe they 0:09:09.300 --> 0:09:13.060 have the answer. Tell us about this company from Amazing Israel. 0:09:13.340 --> 0:09:15.620 Yeah. Did it make us nervous while I was changing 0:09:15.620 --> 0:09:18.740 passwords like crazy as a result of that announcement? And 0:09:18.740 --> 0:09:20.460 my wife would just like to get her hands around 0:09:20.460 --> 0:09:24.140 the necks of those who released them. But companies are 0:09:24.140 --> 0:09:27.060 working overtime to try and stop the theft of data. 0:09:27.340 --> 0:09:30.820 And sometimes that involves real money being taken away from 0:09:30.820 --> 0:09:35.220 unsuspecting individuals. Now, if you bank or shop online, you've 0:09:35.220 --> 0:09:39.260 probably experienced two factor authentication and the use of one 0:09:39.300 --> 0:09:42.100 time passwords to prove you are who you claim to 0:09:42.100 --> 0:09:45.260 be when logging into your account. But cyber criminals are 0:09:45.260 --> 0:09:48.450 also working overtime to stay one step ahead. and one 0:09:48.450 --> 0:09:52.490 of their latest attacks involves SIM swapping. They trick your 0:09:52.490 --> 0:09:55.650 mobile phone carrier into transferring your phone number to a 0:09:55.650 --> 0:09:59.690 SIM card they control, allowing them to intercept calls and texts, 0:09:59.690 --> 0:10:03.290 including those two factor authentication codes sent to your number, 0:10:03.290 --> 0:10:05.809 which then lets them into your account. And that's where 0:10:05.850 --> 0:10:09.650 Israeli startup Unibeam comes in. Using the security built into 0:10:09.690 --> 0:10:13.250 every mobile phone SIM card, they link a person's identity 0:10:13.250 --> 0:10:16.170 to the actual phone number, the SIM card ID, and 0:10:16.170 --> 0:10:19.210 the actual mobile device ID. A person might try to 0:10:19.250 --> 0:10:21.210 steal your phone number, but if they don't have your 0:10:21.210 --> 0:10:24.970 actual SIM card and your mobile device, they can't break 0:10:24.970 --> 0:10:28.970 into your account. Unibeam has developed this authentication system that 0:10:28.970 --> 0:10:32.770 banks and other financial institutions can purchase and implement, to 0:10:32.809 --> 0:10:35.650 make it impossible for someone to steal your identity by 0:10:35.650 --> 0:10:38.890 hijacking your phone number. And that sounds like another great 0:10:38.890 --> 0:10:41.650 idea coming our way from Amazing Israel. 0:10:41.650 --> 0:10:44.490 Thank you Charlie. Sure appreciate your attention to current events 0:10:44.490 --> 0:10:47.199 in the Middle East. Always a great segment. a second 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.040 one coming your way. As we sit down and talk 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.079 about what happened in the nation of Bulgaria during World 0:10:52.080 --> 0:11:10.360 War two. An amazing rescue story. Next. Some heroes are 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.760 in the spotlight. Others are hidden. You're about to meet 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:18.000 some lesser known folks whose bravery saved countless Jewish lives 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.920 during the Holocaust of World War Two. This is the 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.000 land and the book. I'm John Yeager, and before we 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.839 launch into today's story, let's think about ways that you 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.120 and I can show the love of Christ to Jewish 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:34.880 friends right in our own neighborhood. Antisemitism is a growing problem, 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.280 but is it a fit subject for you and your 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:41.280 Jewish friend for conversation? Roy Schwarz of Chosen People Ministries, 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:42.160 what say you? 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.680 Well, I would say it's an opportunity to say, what 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.060 do you think is the cause of anti-Semitism? And you 0:11:48.059 --> 0:11:51.660 could say from my perspective, the cause of anti-Semitism is 0:11:51.660 --> 0:11:55.660 the world, the flesh and the devil. All three things 0:11:55.660 --> 0:11:59.700 despise God and are at work against God. God has 0:11:59.700 --> 0:12:02.660 chosen the Jewish people for a purpose and for a reason, 0:12:02.980 --> 0:12:06.819 and they ultimately will be the ones that will lead 0:12:06.820 --> 0:12:10.900 the world to righteousness and to the Messiah, and to 0:12:10.940 --> 0:12:14.620 be a nation where God will bring all the nations 0:12:14.620 --> 0:12:18.140 of the world to celebrate his appointed times. And so 0:12:18.179 --> 0:12:24.500 anti-Semitism is a movement by the devil organizing the world system, 0:12:24.500 --> 0:12:29.819 as well as the fleshly nature of man to oppose 0:12:29.860 --> 0:12:33.380 God's will for the world. His will will be done. 0:12:33.380 --> 0:12:37.380 But the enemy is using the world, the flesh and 0:12:37.380 --> 0:12:40.780 the devil. And I might add that sometimes we as Christians, 0:12:40.780 --> 0:12:47.890 because we are fleshly, We become unwitting tools of the enemy. 0:12:48.250 --> 0:12:51.290 Words of caution and some good advice from Roy Schwartz 0:12:51.450 --> 0:12:57.410 with Chosen People Ministries. Thanks. World War two and the Holocaust. 0:12:57.570 --> 0:13:01.050 Everyone knows what happened to Jews living in Germany, Poland, 0:13:01.090 --> 0:13:04.530 Hungary or Romania. But the untold story of Jews in 0:13:04.530 --> 0:13:07.929 Bulgaria is our focus today, and helping us tell that 0:13:07.929 --> 0:13:11.410 story is Avi Mizrahi. Avi was born and raised in 0:13:11.410 --> 0:13:14.250 Tel Aviv. He served in the Israeli Air Force and 0:13:14.250 --> 0:13:17.809 also served as a reservist with the Israel Defense Forces. 0:13:18.210 --> 0:13:22.010 Avi is also the founding pastor of Adonai Roy Congregation 0:13:22.250 --> 0:13:26.490 and the visionary behind Dugit Outreach Ministries. His passion is 0:13:26.490 --> 0:13:29.290 to share the gospel with Israelis and to help believers 0:13:29.290 --> 0:13:33.250 grow in their faith. Avi has co-written legacy of Hope, 0:13:33.290 --> 0:13:35.570 A welcome to the land and the book. Avi. 0:13:36.090 --> 0:13:37.329 Thank you. Thank you. 0:13:37.570 --> 0:13:40.370 So take us to Bulgaria at the outbreak of World 0:13:40.370 --> 0:13:44.120 War Two. According to your book, there were about 50,000 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.080 Jewish people living there then, and I'm assuming that they're 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.559 involved in all levels of society. And to that point, 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.760 living for the most part, harmoniously with their non-Jewish neighbors. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.800 Is that accurate, or how would you correct that? 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.760 Yeah, there was a good relationship between the Jews in 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.959 Bulgaria and the Christians in Bulgaria. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.840 And in your book, you reference a law that was 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.760 ultimately presented by the Bulgarian government. Ironically, it was called 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.280 the law for the protection of the nation. Yet somebody 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.000 pointed out in a newspaper editorial, it was actually a 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.640 means of oppression and persecution of the Jewish minority in 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.200 the land. And for this, Stefan mentioned in your book, 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:25.440 was publicly slandered and received all kinds of threats. Explain 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:26.480 just a bit more here. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.800 Yeah, well, when the Nazis took over Europe and they 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:36.320 came to Bulgaria, they enforced their laws where they took 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.040 all the rights from the Jews and Jews had to 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:43.550 wear the yellow star. For example, my grandfather. He had 0:14:43.550 --> 0:14:47.670 a business in downtown Sofia, and the Nazis kicked him 0:14:47.670 --> 0:14:51.550 out and took over his business. And basically, the Jews 0:14:52.230 --> 0:14:55.190 were ostracized. They were like they had no rights. They 0:14:55.190 --> 0:14:57.430 could not have a business. They couldn't be lawyers, they 0:14:57.430 --> 0:15:00.590 couldn't be teachers. And they were treated very bad by 0:15:00.590 --> 0:15:03.630 the Nazis. That's what they did. Wherever they went all 0:15:03.630 --> 0:15:06.550 over Europe. And that's what they did also in Bulgaria. 0:15:07.190 --> 0:15:09.830 In reading the book, I noticed that the persecution of 0:15:09.830 --> 0:15:13.550 Jewish people was a gradual thing, a process that took 0:15:13.550 --> 0:15:16.550 root over time. Do you see a parallel in the 0:15:16.550 --> 0:15:19.830 United States and in other places with regard to the 0:15:19.830 --> 0:15:21.390 rise of anti-Semitism? 0:15:21.790 --> 0:15:25.150 Very good question. After the war broke a year and 0:15:25.150 --> 0:15:28.110 a half ago in Israel with Gaza, and we have 0:15:28.110 --> 0:15:31.350 seen all over the world the rise of anti-Semitism and 0:15:31.350 --> 0:15:36.310 anti-Semitic slogans and riots against Jews. It really reminded us 0:15:36.310 --> 0:15:39.350 what happened in the early 30s, before the Second World War, 0:15:39.670 --> 0:15:43.700 as the Nazis came to power, the same evil spirit 0:15:43.700 --> 0:15:49.380 coming against the Jews and anti-Semitism. Now it's called anti-Israel. And, uh, 0:15:49.540 --> 0:15:52.860 we see definitely a parallel between those years and now. 0:15:53.540 --> 0:15:57.700 Legacy of Hope offers readers a gripping and inspiring testament 0:15:57.700 --> 0:16:01.260 to resilience, faith, and divine protection. We're talking with the 0:16:01.260 --> 0:16:05.660 book's co-author, Avi Mizrachi, here on the land and the book. Well, 0:16:05.660 --> 0:16:09.180 your story points out that Bulgarian politicians eventually committed to 0:16:09.220 --> 0:16:11.860 what the Nazis called the Final Solution at the end 0:16:11.860 --> 0:16:15.220 of 1941. Describe what that actually meant. 0:16:15.940 --> 0:16:21.180 Well, the Nazis, the leaders met in Wannsee. It's a 0:16:21.300 --> 0:16:24.980 well-known place in Germany. And that's where they made the 0:16:24.980 --> 0:16:29.060 decision that, uh, we need to kill this Jewish race 0:16:29.100 --> 0:16:32.700 as quickly as possible and eliminate them from all over 0:16:32.700 --> 0:16:35.500 Europe and all over the world. And that's where they 0:16:35.500 --> 0:16:38.940 start looking. Every country. How many Jews live and collected 0:16:39.050 --> 0:16:43.210 those numbers and names with a purpose to send them 0:16:43.210 --> 0:16:46.930 all to Auschwitz, to be gassed and murdered and slaughtered. 0:16:47.610 --> 0:16:51.250 You know, looking back, people would rightly ask, why would 0:16:51.290 --> 0:16:54.570 Bulgarian leaders agree to such an evil plan? 0:16:55.290 --> 0:16:58.050 That's a good question. Well, it was evil. There was 0:16:58.050 --> 0:17:01.250 darkness over Europe during the Second World War with the Nazis. 0:17:01.770 --> 0:17:04.010 But what's good is that the church and the leaders 0:17:04.010 --> 0:17:07.730 of the church of the Orthodox Church in Bulgaria, they 0:17:07.730 --> 0:17:12.169 rose up, especially the Metropolitan, who is the bishop of Sofia, 0:17:12.369 --> 0:17:16.290 Metropolitan Stefan. He rose up because he was a vulnerable believer, 0:17:16.330 --> 0:17:21.090 follower of Christ. And he believed the Bible. And he said, no, 0:17:21.090 --> 0:17:23.689 we need to stand with our Jewish brothers and we 0:17:23.690 --> 0:17:26.130 need to do everything we can to save them from 0:17:26.130 --> 0:17:30.369 being slaughtered. We're talking about 50,000 Jews who lived in 0:17:30.369 --> 0:17:31.490 Bulgaria at that time. 0:17:31.690 --> 0:17:35.370 Yeah. This is the land and the book. I'm John Yeager, 0:17:35.410 --> 0:17:40.480 joined today by Avi Miss Rocky. Okay, you mentioned Metropolitan Stefan. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.840 So help me understand the meaning of the word Metropolitan. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.240 We think of the word city when we hear that 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.840 word metropolitan. What is his status, his role in the 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:49.800 church at the time? 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.320 At that time, he was the head of the church. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.320 He was the bishop of the whole church, all the 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.640 churches in Bulgaria. And he had a great influence on 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.600 all the churches and other places. And he called the 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.520 all the leaders. When the Nazis came to Bulgaria, he 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.480 called all the leaders into Sofia and told them, God 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.320 is calling us in such a time as this. According 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.720 to Romans 910 and 11, who knows that God wants 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.520 to use us to welcome the window, to open the 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.240 churches and welcome the Jews, and we need to provoke 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.359 them to jealousy. And he had a heart for God, 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.440 and he had a heart for the people of Israel. 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.479 And he said, we need to issue them. Even a 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.240 certificate of baptism will do that, so that the Nazis 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.040 will not take them and kill them. He was a 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.790 very strong believer and a protector of the Jewish people. 0:18:37.030 --> 0:18:39.909 He was not alone in this fight. Introduce us to 0:18:39.950 --> 0:18:42.190 a rabbi named Daniel Zion. 0:18:42.750 --> 0:18:46.510 Yes. They became a good friend even before the Second 0:18:46.510 --> 0:18:49.230 World War. In the 30s, he became a good friend 0:18:49.230 --> 0:18:51.590 of Rabbi Daniel Zion. And it was because he loved 0:18:51.590 --> 0:18:53.990 the Jewish people. So he became a friend. They will 0:18:53.990 --> 0:18:57.270 meet together, and of course, they will argue theology and 0:18:57.270 --> 0:18:57.990 all those things. 0:18:58.030 --> 0:18:58.510 Right. 0:18:58.910 --> 0:19:01.950 And in fact, he gave him once a whole Bible 0:19:01.950 --> 0:19:05.109 in Bulgarian. And Rabbi Daniel saw that he saw the 0:19:05.109 --> 0:19:07.429 New Testament. He taught the New Testament and threw it 0:19:07.430 --> 0:19:10.109 on the floor and said, Now I'll read your scriptures, 0:19:10.109 --> 0:19:14.350 which is only the Old Testament. But because of the friendship, 0:19:14.390 --> 0:19:18.430 Metropolitan Stefan said, Rabbi, don't do this to my scriptures. 0:19:18.790 --> 0:19:22.350 So out of respect and because of relationship, he picked 0:19:22.350 --> 0:19:24.790 up the New Testament and put it on a bookshelf 0:19:25.230 --> 0:19:28.670 and they continued their relationship. But one morning Rabbi Danielson 0:19:28.670 --> 0:19:31.869 was praying and he saw a vision of a white 0:19:31.869 --> 0:19:35.450 person and a light, and it really scared him. He 0:19:35.450 --> 0:19:37.330 didn't know what to do, so he went to Stefan 0:19:37.330 --> 0:19:40.290 and asked him, what do you think now? Stefan already 0:19:40.290 --> 0:19:42.850 knew because he'd been praying for him. Yes, he said, well, 0:19:42.850 --> 0:19:45.810 next time it shows up, why don't you say Hineni, 0:19:45.850 --> 0:19:48.970 here I am. Who are you? And Robert said, well, 0:19:49.010 --> 0:19:52.050 that's a good thing. Yeah. The next morning, again he 0:19:52.050 --> 0:19:55.410 prayed a vision and he saw a person, a light 0:19:55.410 --> 0:19:59.650 from a person coming. Bright light. So he asked Hineni, 0:19:59.690 --> 0:20:04.209 who are you? And? And the person said, I'm Yeshua, 0:20:04.250 --> 0:20:05.210 your Messiah. 0:20:05.369 --> 0:20:08.450 Hmm. And what was rabbi's response to that? 0:20:08.970 --> 0:20:12.770 The fear of God fell upon him and he realized 0:20:12.770 --> 0:20:17.090 that Yeshua Jesus is the Messiah. So he went to 0:20:17.090 --> 0:20:20.570 his bookshelf to pick up that New Testament that months ago, 0:20:20.570 --> 0:20:22.689 he threw it on the floor. He picked it up 0:20:22.690 --> 0:20:25.370 the New Testament and opened to Matthew chapter one and 0:20:25.369 --> 0:20:27.850 start reading it. And he said, oh, this is the 0:20:27.850 --> 0:20:30.810 Son of death, the genealogy of Jesus. This is Jewish. 0:20:30.810 --> 0:20:33.370 This is a Jewish book written by Jews. And he 0:20:33.369 --> 0:20:36.480 was amazed. So he read the New Testament and realized 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:41.040 that indeed, Yeshua Jesus is the promised Messiah and he 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:42.080 became a believer. 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.960 Wow, what a story of conversion right in the middle 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.119 of the tensions of World War Two. And that's an 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:51.360 inspiring story. And yet this whole drama is still playing out. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:55.160 So what became of the Rabbi? What became of Metropolitan Stefan, 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.480 and how did these two ultimately work toward the the 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.960 rescue of these 50,000 Jews in Bulgaria? What happened next? 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.879 This was totally the plan of God and the grace 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.199 of God because they became friends, close friends, and they 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:14.000 became believers even before 1939 when the Second World War started, 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:18.000 when when Hitler invaded Poland. So they became friends. And 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.800 when this happened, they made an agreement that Rabbi Danielson, 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:25.680 who was the chief rabbi of Bulgaria, and Metropolitan Stefan, 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.640 who was the bishop of the whole church, and they 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:31.600 made an agreement like an agreement, like a covenant, saying, 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:34.110 we're going to stand together. We're going to fight the 0:21:34.109 --> 0:21:36.669 evil one. We're going to pray, and we'll do everything 0:21:36.670 --> 0:21:40.270 we can to stop. And we have definitely the church 0:21:40.270 --> 0:21:43.070 rising up to stand with the Jewish people and not 0:21:43.109 --> 0:21:46.629 hand over their 50,000 Jews. That King Boris at that 0:21:46.630 --> 0:21:50.070 time promised to give it to Hitler. And that's how 0:21:50.070 --> 0:21:51.109 they work together. 0:21:51.270 --> 0:21:54.949 It's a rescue drama of lesser known heroes showing uncommon 0:21:54.950 --> 0:21:57.910 bravery today on the land. And the book where we're 0:21:57.910 --> 0:22:00.710 enjoying a conversation with Avi Mizrachi. Well, it's one thing 0:22:00.710 --> 0:22:04.149 to have this passion, this common bond in Christ, but 0:22:04.190 --> 0:22:06.510 quite another to pull off what they did. So what 0:22:06.510 --> 0:22:11.230 was the actual doing that spared these 50,000 Jews? What 0:22:11.230 --> 0:22:11.830 did they do? 0:22:12.830 --> 0:22:17.510 For example, they saw Metropolitan Stefan. He called all the 0:22:17.510 --> 0:22:20.390 leaders of all the churches in Bulgaria and Bulgaria to 0:22:20.430 --> 0:22:23.710 Sofia and told them, we must stand with the Jews. 0:22:23.750 --> 0:22:26.070 And according to the scriptures. And he will quote Romans 0:22:26.109 --> 0:22:29.590 910 and 11. Okay. That does not cast away his 0:22:29.590 --> 0:22:33.380 people They for such a time as this. They were 0:22:33.420 --> 0:22:35.780 by their rejection salvation come to the nations. But now 0:22:35.780 --> 0:22:37.700 it's time for us to provoke them to jealousy and 0:22:37.700 --> 0:22:39.780 love them into the Kingdom of God. We need to 0:22:39.780 --> 0:22:42.859 stand with our brothers because they are cold. They are 0:22:42.859 --> 0:22:44.780 the chosen people and we need to stand with them. 0:22:45.100 --> 0:22:48.660 He understood that and really mobilized the church to stand 0:22:48.660 --> 0:22:52.659 with the Jews, the same way Robert called for prayer 0:22:52.660 --> 0:22:56.020 in the synagogue. And the people will pray there and 0:22:56.020 --> 0:23:00.020 then they had they even had a special day of demonstration. 0:23:00.300 --> 0:23:03.820 And the Nazis arrested Rabbi Daniel Zion and put him 0:23:03.820 --> 0:23:06.660 in a work camp and really beat him up and 0:23:06.660 --> 0:23:10.220 things like that. But the church opened their churches and 0:23:10.220 --> 0:23:13.060 they said, If Jews run to us, we're going to 0:23:13.060 --> 0:23:16.260 go and accept them and open our doors. And if 0:23:16.260 --> 0:23:18.780 the Nazis will try to take them, we'll issue even 0:23:18.820 --> 0:23:21.899 a certificate of baptism saying, no, they are part of 0:23:21.900 --> 0:23:24.020 the church and we will not let them take the Jews. 0:23:25.020 --> 0:23:28.060 They were very eminent. They they wrote letters to the 0:23:28.060 --> 0:23:32.490 parliament they met with high places in the government. They 0:23:32.490 --> 0:23:35.050 even met with King Boris. The King of Bulgaria at 0:23:35.050 --> 0:23:38.330 that time, they handed him a letter. They went to 0:23:38.330 --> 0:23:40.370 him without an appointment. You know, he could have really 0:23:40.369 --> 0:23:42.889 put him in jail, but somehow he accepted them. So 0:23:43.170 --> 0:23:46.410 Rabbi Daniel Zion and Metropolitan Stefan went to see the king, 0:23:46.730 --> 0:23:48.930 and they told him, King Boris, you know, if you 0:23:48.970 --> 0:23:52.210 cooperate with the Nazis, God will require their blood from 0:23:52.210 --> 0:23:56.010 your hands. Don't cooperate with them. And they really brought 0:23:56.010 --> 0:23:59.010 the fear of God upon King Boris. And from that 0:23:59.010 --> 0:24:01.649 point on, he changed his mind and decided not to 0:24:01.650 --> 0:24:02.770 cooperate with the Nazis. 0:24:03.090 --> 0:24:06.609 And thus 50,000 lives were saved. Amazing. So in the end, 0:24:06.650 --> 0:24:08.609 if I'm hearing you right, it was a combination of 0:24:08.650 --> 0:24:11.770 of a letter writing campaign. It was meetings with highly 0:24:11.770 --> 0:24:15.370 placed government officials. It was the issuance of certificates of 0:24:15.369 --> 0:24:18.570 baptism which made these people off limits to the Nazis. 0:24:18.570 --> 0:24:21.570 It was a combination of things that resulted in their deliverance, 0:24:21.570 --> 0:24:24.050 all of it to the glory of God and a 0:24:24.050 --> 0:24:26.890 tribute to the the great courage of these two men, 0:24:26.890 --> 0:24:31.520 Metropolitan Stefan and Rabbi Daniel Zion. What a fabulous story. 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.679 Yes. And I'll just say this. In 1943, Hitler sent 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.560 the trains three times. Three times he sent the trains 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:41.440 to Bulgaria to collect the Jews. To make a long 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:45.440 story short, three times those trains went back to Berlin 0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.920 and to Auschwitz. Empty because the church to the Jews 0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.520 and said, no, we're not going to let you have 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.800 the Jews. And 50,000 Jews were rescued from being killed. 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.800 But to me, that says the church today has a 0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.840 capacity to make a stand, the ability to make a 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:03.240 loud noise and to stand up against anti-Semitism and evil 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:04.280 of all kinds. Right? 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.200 That's right. I believe in the one you meant the 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.520 Jew and non-Jew. When we followers of true followers and 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:14.440 disciples of Jesus, of Yeshua and we stand together in 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.600 prayer and we win by, we overcome the evil by 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.160 the word of our testimonies, by the blood of the lamb, 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.520 and willing to lay down our lives for the gospel. 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.120 Well, there's a lot more to this story, including some 0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.550 great photos as well that you can track in the 0:25:27.550 --> 0:25:31.389 book legacy of Hope Hidden Heroes from Generation to Generation. 0:25:31.430 --> 0:25:34.510 The story you probably haven't heard but probably need to hear. 0:25:34.670 --> 0:25:36.869 We'll post a link to that book at our website. 0:25:36.910 --> 0:25:41.150 The land and the book. Avi, thank you so much 0:25:41.190 --> 0:25:43.990 for digging into this story, for making it come alive. 0:25:44.310 --> 0:25:46.030 We appreciate you visiting with us. 0:25:46.350 --> 0:25:48.350 Thank you very much, sir. God bless you. 0:25:48.350 --> 0:25:51.470 And you as well. It's a visit with Gerald Peterman 0:25:51.470 --> 0:25:54.710 next to answer your Bible questions here on the land 0:25:54.710 --> 0:26:08.350 and the book. Hope your day is going well. This 0:26:08.350 --> 0:26:10.550 is the land and the book. I'm John Gager. It's 0:26:10.550 --> 0:26:12.830 about to get better for you because I think you'll 0:26:12.830 --> 0:26:14.790 be intrigued as you hear the questions that have come 0:26:14.790 --> 0:26:17.310 in from listeners all across the country who opened their 0:26:17.310 --> 0:26:20.149 Bibles just like you do, and wonder some of the 0:26:20.150 --> 0:26:22.909 same things that you do, or maybe something slightly different. 0:26:23.270 --> 0:26:25.270 Those questions being addressed, of course, by the one and 0:26:25.270 --> 0:26:28.700 only Doctor Gerald Peterman of the Moody Bible Institute faculty 0:26:28.740 --> 0:26:30.980 who's enjoying his summer, aren't you, sir? 0:26:31.020 --> 0:26:32.580 I certainly am. Yeah. 0:26:33.340 --> 0:26:37.139 Something to celebrate. Well. Romans 116 says the gospel is 0:26:37.140 --> 0:26:39.820 to the Jew first and also to the Gentile. 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Help us out here. 0:27:51.690 --> 0:27:54.890 Well, I appreciate Gayle's question, and I understand that The 0:27:54.890 --> 0:28:00.090 Chosen has some mixed reviews. Now, I personally don't endorse 0:28:00.090 --> 0:28:03.450 the show. If by endorse we mean I think the 0:28:03.450 --> 0:28:07.729 show always and only communicates biblical events and words. It 0:28:07.730 --> 0:28:11.730 doesn't do that. Many times the dialogue in the show 0:28:11.770 --> 0:28:14.450 is drawn straight from Scripture and I think that's good. 0:28:14.570 --> 0:28:17.889 Other times, the dialogue and even the characters are made 0:28:17.890 --> 0:28:20.090 up by the writers of the show. I understand how 0:28:20.090 --> 0:28:25.070 that works because something very similar happens with modern Christian songs. 0:28:25.070 --> 0:28:28.350 They don't just quote scripture or modern Christian books. They 0:28:28.350 --> 0:28:32.030 don't always just simply quote scripture. So I think since 0:28:32.030 --> 0:28:35.990 there are many times when the dialogue of the chosen 0:28:35.990 --> 0:28:38.190 is straight from the Word of God, I think God 0:28:38.190 --> 0:28:41.630 can use it if he chooses to, and he might 0:28:41.630 --> 0:28:44.150 even choose to use the portions that are made up 0:28:44.470 --> 0:28:48.430 or might not. I'm willing to leave that whole thing 0:28:48.470 --> 0:28:51.230 to him who endorses it or who doesn't. I don't 0:28:51.230 --> 0:28:54.790 think is the primary issue. Is it faithful to Scripture? 0:28:54.790 --> 0:28:56.390 I think is the primary issue? 0:28:56.430 --> 0:29:00.260 Yeah. Thanks for that thoughtful answer. Rona asks. With 300 0:29:00.260 --> 0:29:03.670 to 400 years between Rahab and Ruth, is there any 0:29:03.670 --> 0:29:07.550 way to know the missing information about how Rahab could 0:29:07.550 --> 0:29:09.990 be the mother of Boaz? Was she actually a great 0:29:09.990 --> 0:29:11.270 grandmother of Boaz? 0:29:11.710 --> 0:29:14.110 I think Rona is moving in a really good direction. 0:29:14.110 --> 0:29:17.670 I'm glad she's asking this. Apparently she's been reading Matthew 0:29:17.710 --> 0:29:21.910 chapter one, so good job. Keep in mind that genealogies 0:29:21.910 --> 0:29:25.380 in both the Old Testament and the New Testament, genealogies 0:29:25.380 --> 0:29:29.620 are selective. The writer chooses generations to talk about, and 0:29:29.620 --> 0:29:32.620 he chooses them with a purpose. If you read Matthew one, 0:29:32.660 --> 0:29:35.780 you read Luke three. They both have genealogies of Jesus, 0:29:35.780 --> 0:29:38.540 but they're very different. So I think the short answer 0:29:38.540 --> 0:29:43.860 is yes, Rahab is an ancestor. Boaz probably a great 0:29:43.860 --> 0:29:46.700 grandmother or a grandmother, but it's hard to know the 0:29:46.700 --> 0:29:47.780 rest of the details. 0:29:48.060 --> 0:29:50.180 You're listening to the Land and the book. It's our 0:29:50.180 --> 0:29:53.020 question and answer segment, and you should know right away 0:29:53.020 --> 0:29:56.180 that your question is welcome any old time. If you 0:29:56.180 --> 0:29:57.900 just send us an email, we'll get back to you 0:29:57.940 --> 0:30:00.940 with a personalized answer and then put your question in 0:30:00.940 --> 0:30:04.540 our queue for a future broadcast. Our email address to 0:30:04.580 --> 0:30:09.020 connect is the land and the book at the land, 0:30:09.020 --> 0:30:14.860 and the book at Moody's. In Genesis 614, the NASB 0:30:15.100 --> 0:30:17.900 version of the Bible says, make for yourself an ark 0:30:17.940 --> 0:30:21.370 of gopher wood. Okay. This is God's instructions to Noah. 0:30:21.370 --> 0:30:24.090 He goes on, you should make the ark with compartments 0:30:24.090 --> 0:30:27.650 and cover it inside and out with pitch. Carol says 0:30:27.650 --> 0:30:30.170 it appears that the ark should look black if it 0:30:30.170 --> 0:30:32.930 was painted inside and out with pitch. You know, we 0:30:32.930 --> 0:30:35.370 say pitch black. Can you tell me if the ark 0:30:35.370 --> 0:30:38.450 was painted inside and out with a black pitch? Or 0:30:38.450 --> 0:30:40.450 was the pitch some other color? 0:30:40.930 --> 0:30:43.410 I really love the question, but I'm afraid I cannot 0:30:43.410 --> 0:30:47.090 answer it. Almost certainly. The pitch is dark, very dark, 0:30:47.090 --> 0:30:50.290 maybe black, maybe a very dark brown, and it must 0:30:50.290 --> 0:30:52.850 cover the whole boat. Thus, as far as I can 0:30:52.850 --> 0:30:55.290 take it. In other words, if you look at a 0:30:55.290 --> 0:30:58.489 children's storybook about the Ark, almost certainly we see it 0:30:58.490 --> 0:31:00.650 as it's planks and we see the seams. 0:31:00.930 --> 0:31:02.250 The beautiful wood grain. 0:31:02.290 --> 0:31:05.450 Beautiful wood grain, almost certainly all that was covered. Thanks 0:31:05.490 --> 0:31:08.250 be to God to make it waterproof so it would 0:31:08.250 --> 0:31:10.090 keep Noah and his family safe. 0:31:10.090 --> 0:31:11.890 But the actual color? Not so sure. 0:31:11.930 --> 0:31:13.130 Hard to know. Yes. 0:31:13.850 --> 0:31:16.890 Andrew takes us to Isaiah 817, where it says, I 0:31:16.890 --> 0:31:20.400 will wait for the Lord who is hiding his face 0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.760 from the house of Jacob, and I will hope in him. 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.520 And Andrew wants to know how can God hide? 0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.920 I'm so glad Andrew brings this question, because I've often 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:34.080 thought about this and reread Isaiah and reread Isaiah. God 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:38.479 hiding himself is a relational term. That is, when we 0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.320 are idolatrous, when God's people turn away from him, when 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:46.120 they're deep in sin, he turns away, metaphorically speaking, relationally speaking. 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.080 That's a kind of way of distancing. So now we 0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:54.560 should repent. Now we should seek him. Actually, God mentions 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:59.400 several times in Isaiah this kind of hiding. Isaiah 4515 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.440 is another one. The prophet says, truly you are a 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.880 God who hides himself. In Isaiah 59 two, the prophet 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.440 says about Israel, your sins have hidden his face from you. 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.240 You know what's very interesting about this is in John's Gospel, 0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:18.910 it's the only gospel where Jesus is said to hide himself. 0:32:19.270 --> 0:32:22.710 You remember in John chapter eight when our Lord says, 0:32:22.710 --> 0:32:26.670 Before Abraham was, I am. And you know, the hostile 0:32:26.670 --> 0:32:31.590 crowd picks up stones to stone him, and he hides himself. 0:32:31.590 --> 0:32:35.590 That is, he turns away from the relationship because of sin. 0:32:35.630 --> 0:32:37.150 God sometimes does this. 0:32:37.510 --> 0:32:39.870 It seems to me that those Isaiah references, though, are 0:32:39.870 --> 0:32:42.070 not so much about a physical game of hide and 0:32:42.070 --> 0:32:44.910 seek as it is a a withdrawing of of one's 0:32:44.910 --> 0:32:47.710 connectedness and blessing. Yes, rapport. Would that be fair? 0:32:47.750 --> 0:32:51.710 Exactly right. Thanks for that way of describing it, John. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 0:32:52.270 --> 0:32:54.870 Okay, let's go on to Glenn's question. Many times on 0:32:54.870 --> 0:32:57.550 the program, I've heard you mention to the Jew first 0:32:57.550 --> 0:33:01.110 and also to the Greek from Romans 116. So what 0:33:01.110 --> 0:33:02.830 is the first all about here? 0:33:03.350 --> 0:33:06.510 So I really appreciate Glenn's question. I take it that 0:33:06.550 --> 0:33:10.510 in part, Paul's theology of Jew first does get worked out. 0:33:10.870 --> 0:33:13.150 Just read the book of acts. When he goes into 0:33:13.150 --> 0:33:15.350 a new city, he goes to synagogue first. This is 0:33:15.350 --> 0:33:18.380 one way it works out. But I think there's another 0:33:18.380 --> 0:33:21.060 way it happens. And I really like how Michael Vanlandingham 0:33:21.060 --> 0:33:23.300 has talked about this in the Moody Bible Commentary. He 0:33:23.300 --> 0:33:28.739 says first is not just historical, but it's also theological, 0:33:28.780 --> 0:33:33.420 because the gospel of a Jewish Messiah, the gospel of 0:33:33.540 --> 0:33:37.340 an incarnate Jewish man who'd been becomes king of Israel 0:33:37.340 --> 0:33:40.180 that is deeply rooted in the Old Testament. And so 0:33:40.180 --> 0:33:44.900 it fits Jewish people first before it fits Gentiles like me. 0:33:45.220 --> 0:33:47.780 So for the Jew first is the gospel is just 0:33:47.780 --> 0:33:49.740 well suited to Jewish people. 0:33:50.340 --> 0:33:54.140 Pete asks. After Jesus was crucified and raised from the dead, 0:33:54.140 --> 0:33:57.220 he made two statements to two of his followers. First, 0:33:57.220 --> 0:34:00.340 in John 20 verse 17, Jesus says to Mary, do 0:34:00.340 --> 0:34:02.980 not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended 0:34:02.980 --> 0:34:05.540 to my father, but go to my brethren, and say 0:34:05.540 --> 0:34:08.380 to them, I am ascending to my father and your father, 0:34:08.380 --> 0:34:11.140 and to my God and your God. But then eight 0:34:11.140 --> 0:34:14.540 days later in John 20, verse 27, he said to Thomas, 0:34:14.540 --> 0:34:17.770 reach your finger here and look at my hands and 0:34:17.770 --> 0:34:20.130 reach your hand there and put it into my side. 0:34:20.170 --> 0:34:24.570 Do not be unbelieving, but believing. And the third thing is, 0:34:24.570 --> 0:34:27.370 did Jesus ascend between these two meetings? 0:34:27.410 --> 0:34:29.970 I'm really happy that Pete is really thinking and asking 0:34:29.969 --> 0:34:33.370 really good questions. So we've got three things that we 0:34:33.370 --> 0:34:37.170 need to respond to. First, what's going on with Jesus 0:34:37.170 --> 0:34:40.250 and Mary outside the tomb? I don't think our Lord 0:34:40.250 --> 0:34:44.570 is being harsh. I think he's saying something like, let's 0:34:44.570 --> 0:34:47.569 stop the hug for now because you have a task. 0:34:47.610 --> 0:34:50.410 You're the only one who's seen me alive. Now you 0:34:50.410 --> 0:34:53.770 should go tell the others. So let's stop that affection 0:34:53.770 --> 0:34:57.490 for this moment so you can get on that task. 0:34:57.650 --> 0:35:03.210 But then later, Jesus welcomes Thomas, touching him. Why is that? Well, 0:35:03.250 --> 0:35:06.530 because Jesus is omniscient and he knows what Thomas said 0:35:06.530 --> 0:35:09.569 he needed. Whether we think Thomas should have said that 0:35:09.570 --> 0:35:13.610 or not is irrelevant, right? Jesus sometimes gives us things 0:35:13.610 --> 0:35:15.950 that we think we need. And so this is how 0:35:15.950 --> 0:35:20.190 our Lord invites him to touch me. Don't be unbelieving, 0:35:20.190 --> 0:35:23.629 but be believing now. Peter has the third question does 0:35:23.630 --> 0:35:27.190 the ascension happen in that eight days between the encounter 0:35:27.190 --> 0:35:29.790 with Mary and the encounter with Thomas? I think the 0:35:29.790 --> 0:35:32.230 answer is no. I think the answer is no, because 0:35:32.270 --> 0:35:37.070 our Lord several times talks about things as present tense 0:35:37.070 --> 0:35:40.109 when they are pending, when they're the next thing on 0:35:40.110 --> 0:35:43.509 his agenda. So this is the way he's speaking in 0:35:43.510 --> 0:35:46.110 John's gospel. The next thing he's going to be doing 0:35:46.630 --> 0:35:49.629 is ascending. But that ascension, as we know from other 0:35:49.630 --> 0:35:54.510 places in Scripture, happens some many days after the resurrection, 0:35:54.510 --> 0:35:56.230 not between these two appearances. 0:35:56.510 --> 0:35:59.350 I want to go back to Thomas and his demand, 0:35:59.390 --> 0:36:02.630 you know, to to see and touch Jesus. And and, 0:36:02.750 --> 0:36:04.230 you know, I think he's gotten a bum rap. We 0:36:04.230 --> 0:36:07.390 call him Doubting Thomas, but we so easily dismiss the 0:36:07.390 --> 0:36:09.109 fact that he was the only one who wasn't there 0:36:09.110 --> 0:36:11.750 when the disciples were. They had the advantage of seeing 0:36:11.750 --> 0:36:15.100 him and they already had their touch moment perhaps themselves. 0:36:15.100 --> 0:36:17.140 So unfair, I think, to beat up on Thomas. What 0:36:17.140 --> 0:36:17.339 do you. 0:36:17.340 --> 0:36:19.339 Think? I think it's unfair to beat up on Thomas. 0:36:19.620 --> 0:36:22.500 But on the other hand, our Lord does say it's 0:36:22.500 --> 0:36:24.740 better to believe even if you don't see. 0:36:24.780 --> 0:36:25.300 Yes. 0:36:25.340 --> 0:36:28.460 So I want to be somewhere in between, you know. Yeah. 0:36:28.460 --> 0:36:31.140 I think Thomas often gets a bad rap. He indeed does. 0:36:31.460 --> 0:36:33.060 And that's a look at some of the questions that 0:36:33.060 --> 0:36:35.460 have come in. We're looking for yours. Email us at 0:36:35.500 --> 0:36:40.100 the land and the book at Moody's. Well, don't go away. 0:36:40.100 --> 0:36:42.460 We've got a great devotional from our host, Charlie Dyer. 0:36:42.500 --> 0:36:58.660 It's next. Welcome back to the land and the book. 0:36:58.700 --> 0:37:02.260 Does anybody remember the very colorful character on TV, Mr. T? 0:37:02.500 --> 0:37:06.380 I do remember his favorite saying, I pity the fool. Well, 0:37:06.380 --> 0:37:10.980 what's more foolish than a fool? Actually, there is an answer. And, Charlie, 0:37:10.980 --> 0:37:12.770 that's the basis of today's devotional. 0:37:12.850 --> 0:37:13.850 It is John. 0:37:13.890 --> 0:37:16.129 All right. I can't imagine where we're going, but I'll 0:37:16.130 --> 0:37:19.009 look forward to that after we hear this Holy Land experience. 0:37:19.010 --> 0:37:20.370 Check out this testimonial. 0:37:24.850 --> 0:37:27.969 I've been to the Holy Land twice and some of 0:37:27.969 --> 0:37:30.610 the surrounding area. And for me, as I think a 0:37:30.650 --> 0:37:33.450 lot of people who have been there, it's like taking 0:37:33.450 --> 0:37:36.170 the Bible from black and white and making it color. 0:37:36.210 --> 0:37:39.290 It really comes to life. Um, sitting in the Garden 0:37:39.330 --> 0:37:43.129 of Gethsemane, uh, one evening, as we were praying and 0:37:43.130 --> 0:37:47.569 talking about to partake of the Lord's Supper, it really 0:37:47.570 --> 0:37:52.170 became apparent to me, as my Lord that night was saying, uh, father, 0:37:52.170 --> 0:37:53.930 not my will, but thine be done if you can 0:37:53.930 --> 0:37:56.330 take this cup from me. And there I was, sitting 0:37:56.330 --> 0:38:00.089 in the same area, saying, Dear father, don't take this 0:38:00.090 --> 0:38:02.330 cup from me, but let me have this cup. And 0:38:02.690 --> 0:38:06.250 just how the the land becomes such an alive thing and, 0:38:06.570 --> 0:38:09.410 and fills in a lot of the gaps in Scripture. 0:38:09.450 --> 0:38:12.960 It's a very, very powerful a very meaningful experience to 0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.480 be able to go and to walk where Jesus walked. 0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.280 I have never been to Israel, but I was in Egypt, 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.439 in Jordan, and I sort of got to trace the 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:27.000 same path that Moses traced. I went through the Sinai desert, 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:31.239 over the Red sea, up Jordan, and ended up in 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:35.759 the Jordan River and on Mount Nebo. Um, and we 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.640 weren't allowed to go into Israel because there was a 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:43.479 State Department warning on Israel at the time. But I 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.160 got to basically see the same perspective that Moses had, 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.920 and to look out over the land from Mount Nebo 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:51.200 and see the beauty of it from afar. And it 0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:55.480 was just a remarkable experience to yearn for the land 0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:58.000 and and to be so close to it, but not 0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.360 to be able to go in as Moses did and 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.959 just to be in that part of the country. 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.399 All right. Nobody wants to be a fool, but you 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.950 can be even more foolish than a fool, I guess. Charlie, 0:39:10.950 --> 0:39:12.110 what do you got for us today? 0:39:12.430 --> 0:39:15.510 Well. Thanks, John. In fact, this is even older than Mr. T. 0:39:15.989 --> 0:39:19.270 Years ago, Bing Crosby sang a song called Would You 0:39:19.270 --> 0:39:21.990 Like to Swing on a star? Well, the song focused 0:39:21.989 --> 0:39:24.830 on the importance of education, and I still remember some 0:39:24.830 --> 0:39:27.270 of the lyrics. A mule is an animal with long, 0:39:27.310 --> 0:39:30.430 funny ears. He kicks up at anything he hears. His 0:39:30.430 --> 0:39:33.149 back is brawny, but his brain is weak. He's just 0:39:33.150 --> 0:39:36.189 plain stupid with a stubborn streak. And by the way, 0:39:36.190 --> 0:39:38.430 if you hate to go to school, you may grow 0:39:38.430 --> 0:39:41.549 up to be a mule. A great song, but is 0:39:41.550 --> 0:39:44.910 it true? Does school keep someone from growing up to 0:39:44.950 --> 0:39:48.910 be stubborn and stupid? Well. Not necessarily. Look at what's 0:39:48.910 --> 0:39:51.910 happening in some of our universities today. Many seem to 0:39:51.910 --> 0:39:56.430 be focused more on indoctrination than actual education. And even 0:39:56.430 --> 0:39:59.830 in those that don't, there's a vast difference between knowledge 0:39:59.830 --> 0:40:04.390 and wisdom. Education can help a person become more knowledgeable, 0:40:04.390 --> 0:40:07.669 but it won't necessarily make the person any wiser. The 0:40:07.780 --> 0:40:12.460 Bible distinguishes between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge refers to the facts, 0:40:12.460 --> 0:40:16.860 you know. Wisdom to the skills necessary to live life successfully. 0:40:17.140 --> 0:40:19.700 To be wise is to understand that God is in 0:40:19.700 --> 0:40:21.900 charge of the world, and that we need to align 0:40:21.900 --> 0:40:25.420 our lives to God's standards. In the Bible, a fool 0:40:25.420 --> 0:40:29.180 isn't someone without knowledge. It's someone who refuses to submit 0:40:29.180 --> 0:40:32.540 to God, who believes he or she is somehow smarter 0:40:32.540 --> 0:40:37.060 than God. The Book of Proverbs is God's textbook on wisdom. 0:40:37.180 --> 0:40:39.900 It explains how life works and how we need to 0:40:39.900 --> 0:40:44.460 respond to our destination. Today is Proverbs 26. The first 0:40:44.460 --> 0:40:48.460 11 verses are a series of comparative statements about the fool. 0:40:48.780 --> 0:40:52.020 Solomon begins by explaining the danger of honoring a fool 0:40:52.420 --> 0:40:55.820 like snow and summer, and like rain and harvest. So 0:40:55.820 --> 0:40:59.100 honor is not fitting for a fool. Israel can get 0:40:59.100 --> 0:41:01.980 snow during the wet winter months, but snow in the 0:41:02.020 --> 0:41:04.899 summer is just out of place. The land is too 0:41:04.900 --> 0:41:09.650 hot and too dry. snow and summer is inappropriate, and 0:41:09.650 --> 0:41:13.210 rain during harvest was even worse. The winter rains have 0:41:13.210 --> 0:41:16.969 ended by harvest season. Farmers didn't want rain during the 0:41:16.969 --> 0:41:20.930 harvest because it would damage their crops. Rain at harvest 0:41:20.930 --> 0:41:25.010 wasn't just inappropriate, it was dangerous. And so is honoring 0:41:25.010 --> 0:41:28.650 those who oppose God. In verse eight, Solomon also spoke 0:41:28.650 --> 0:41:31.489 about honoring a fool. There he said, such honor was 0:41:31.489 --> 0:41:36.169 not only inappropriate and dangerous, it was also ineffective. Like 0:41:36.170 --> 0:41:38.890 one who binds a stone in a sling. So is 0:41:38.890 --> 0:41:41.850 he who gives honor to a fool. Imagine what would 0:41:41.890 --> 0:41:44.810 have happened to David if he had tied the stone 0:41:44.810 --> 0:41:47.649 to the inside of his sling before he faced Goliath? 0:41:48.090 --> 0:41:51.210 As Goliath charged, he would have twirled the sling, taken aim, 0:41:51.210 --> 0:41:53.770 let go of the one end, and then watched as 0:41:53.770 --> 0:41:56.969 the stone stayed inside the sling. The story would have 0:41:56.969 --> 0:42:00.770 had a different ending. Honoring a fool doesn't help him 0:42:00.770 --> 0:42:04.370 and it just might end up hurting you. Solomon has 0:42:04.370 --> 0:42:07.400 several other colorful descriptions of the fool. He says we 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.279 don't need to get upset by a foolish person's threats, 0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.759 which he compares to a bird swooping this way and 0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:16.239 that while never actually landing. A fool shoots off his 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:20.000 mouth so often that his words are no longer taken seriously. 0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:23.359 Fools never seem to get it until they experience the 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.719 consequences of their actions. Just as someone might use a 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:28.920 whip or bridle to get a horse or donkey to 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.480 move in the right direction, so it seems as if 0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.920 personal consequences, like a rod on the back, was the 0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.560 only way to get a fool to pay attention. Two 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.400 of my favorite proverbs appear next. They show why we 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:44.440 need to view wisdom literature like Proverbs as principles showing 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:49.160 how life generally works rather than as ironclad promises. Verses 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:51.520 four and five actually seem to be saying just the 0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.640 opposite of each other. Do not answer a fool according 0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:58.200 to his folly, lest you also be like him. Answer 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.959 a fool as his folly deserves, lest he be wise 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.120 in his own eyes. Well, sometimes the best response to 0:43:04.260 --> 0:43:07.260 a fool is to ignore him rather than lashing back. 0:43:07.660 --> 0:43:10.540 But other times an answer is needed, lest the fool 0:43:10.540 --> 0:43:14.980 think his argument has validity. Which response is most appropriate? Well, 0:43:14.980 --> 0:43:18.180 it depends on the circumstances. And that's why both proverbs 0:43:18.180 --> 0:43:21.459 are necessary. Well, thus far Solomon has painted a very 0:43:21.460 --> 0:43:25.700 bleak picture of the fool. Honoring a fool is inappropriate, dangerous, 0:43:25.700 --> 0:43:29.220 and ineffective. A fool needs to be ignored or challenged 0:43:29.219 --> 0:43:32.940 based on the specific circumstances. A fool doesn't add value 0:43:32.940 --> 0:43:36.259 to a conversation and can actually complicate things if his 0:43:36.260 --> 0:43:40.739 advice is followed. Fools are undependable and seemingly incapable of 0:43:40.739 --> 0:43:44.739 learning from past mistakes. Wow. At this point, we feel 0:43:44.739 --> 0:43:47.100 like a fool is the bottom of the barrel the 0:43:47.100 --> 0:43:51.500 ultimate example of stupidity? The person Bing Crosby was singing about. 0:43:51.739 --> 0:43:55.739 And yet, in many ways, that's an accurate assessment. But 0:43:55.739 --> 0:43:59.220 that's why I find verse 12 so amazing. Having shown 0:43:59.219 --> 0:44:03.170 how destructive a fool really is, Solomon then describes someone 0:44:03.170 --> 0:44:06.450 who's even more foolish than a fool. Do you see 0:44:06.450 --> 0:44:09.450 a man wise in his own eyes? There's more hope 0:44:09.450 --> 0:44:12.250 for a fool than for someone who thinks he's smarter 0:44:12.250 --> 0:44:15.649 than he really is. But what does Proverbs 26 have 0:44:15.650 --> 0:44:18.770 to do with us today? Well, I'm glad you asked. 0:44:19.130 --> 0:44:21.370 We live in a time when many believe the words 0:44:21.370 --> 0:44:25.689 of the Bible are passé, antiquated, out of date. They 0:44:25.690 --> 0:44:28.890 say that those who believe the Bible are troglodytes, members 0:44:28.890 --> 0:44:33.969 of the Flat Earth Society. Impediments to true progress. Don't 0:44:33.969 --> 0:44:37.090 believe it. Even if everyone else seems to be heading 0:44:37.090 --> 0:44:40.690 in the same direction, if that direction runs contrary to 0:44:40.730 --> 0:44:43.730 what God has said in His word, then don't join 0:44:43.730 --> 0:44:48.210 the parade. Jesus said it best. Enter by the narrow gate, 0:44:48.210 --> 0:44:50.650 for the gate is wide, and the way is broad 0:44:50.690 --> 0:44:53.689 that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter 0:44:53.690 --> 0:44:56.089 by it. But the gate is small, and the way 0:44:56.090 --> 0:44:58.969 is narrow that leads to life, and few are those 0:44:58.969 --> 0:45:02.439 who find it. Stick with the standards laid out by 0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:05.359 God and His Word. The pathway might appear to be 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:09.400 narrow and the number of travelers relatively few, but the 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:13.480 destination to which it leads makes the journey worthwhile. And 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.879 those who walk on that pathway are wise. 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.520 Thank you Charlie. Great insights there from Proverbs. And you know, 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:23.560 a lot of times we ignore what is so obvious 0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:26.080 in the Proverbs. It seems to me. It's amazing how 0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.880 we think we have better wisdom sometimes when God Himself 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.320 has clearly spoken. We we have a better way. We think. Right, Charlie? 0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:35.640 That's exactly right, John. And yet, in the end, God 0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.239 is always proven correct. 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.839 Yeah. Well, Charlie, talk about the importance of connecting with 0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:44.960 this station on a personal level with perhaps an encouraging card, 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:47.520 email or letter even. 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.560 Oh, absolutely. John. Yeah. The station that you're listening to 0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.560 right now puts us on by faith. They hope that 0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:56.400 we're making an impact on people's lives, but they don't know. 0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.200 And one of the ways they can get to know 0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.239 is if you take time right now to give them 0:46:00.310 --> 0:46:02.430 a call, write an email or send a letter to 0:46:02.469 --> 0:46:04.670 them just to let them know how much you appreciate 0:46:04.670 --> 0:46:06.589 the land in the book and the impact it has 0:46:06.590 --> 0:46:08.830 on your life. That will help them know that the 0:46:08.830 --> 0:46:11.310 program is effective and it will be an encouragement to 0:46:11.350 --> 0:46:12.590 them at the same time. 0:46:12.630 --> 0:46:14.950 Yeah, you know, the older I get, the more I 0:46:14.950 --> 0:46:18.590 tend to value a handwritten note. There's something about it. 0:46:18.590 --> 0:46:21.150 And as you look back in history, even in modern times, 0:46:21.150 --> 0:46:24.350 the great communicators seem to connect best, make the biggest 0:46:24.350 --> 0:46:27.790 impact with a handwritten note, and I think you'll have 0:46:27.790 --> 0:46:29.790 more influence than you know if you'll take the time 0:46:29.790 --> 0:46:32.310 to do that. So thanks for letting others know about 0:46:32.310 --> 0:46:35.550 your appreciation for the land of the book, specifically letting 0:46:35.550 --> 0:46:38.589 the people at this station know. Well, thanks for your 0:46:38.590 --> 0:46:41.550 time today. Always great to connect with you on behalf 0:46:41.550 --> 0:46:44.990 of our host, Doctor Charlie Dyer, our producer, Dan Anderson, 0:46:44.989 --> 0:46:47.670 I'm John Geiger, inviting you back next week for another 0:46:47.670 --> 0:46:50.469 edition of The Land and the book The Land. 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