WEBVTT - Hour 2: Studying the Scriptures Together 0:00:09.530 --> 0:00:12.980 Hello friends. It's time for the second hour of Open 0:00:12.980 --> 0:00:18.500 Line with me, Michael Ray Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America. 0:00:18.500 --> 0:00:22.820 We're talking about your questions about the Bible, God and 0:00:22.820 --> 0:00:26.930 the spiritual life. We're sitting around the radio kitchen table 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.330 taking your questions. Now's the time to give me a 0:00:29.330 --> 0:00:31.340 call if you would like. It's always good. At the 0:00:31.340 --> 0:00:34.520 beginning of the hour, there's some couple of lines open. Uh, 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:46.070 the phone number is (877) 548-3675. That's (877) 548-3675. If you can't call, 0:00:46.070 --> 0:00:49.489 just go to our website, Open Line radio.org. Or if 0:00:49.490 --> 0:00:52.100 you can't get through after a couple of minutes. And 0:00:52.100 --> 0:00:54.620 when you go to the website Open Line radio.org, there's 0:00:54.620 --> 0:00:57.650 a link that says Ask Michael a question. You can 0:00:57.650 --> 0:01:00.010 click over there, fill out the form, put your question 0:01:00.010 --> 0:01:03.130 in and it will show up in a mailbag in 0:01:03.130 --> 0:01:06.520 a future week. I do hope you have your Bibles open. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.740 I hope you have a second cup of coffee. We're 0:01:08.740 --> 0:01:10.780 ready to talk about the scriptures. We're going to. Actually, 0:01:10.780 --> 0:01:14.350 something I hardly ever do is pick up the question 0:01:14.350 --> 0:01:19.900 that Carolyn had calling from Geneva, Illinois, last hour. Uh, 0:01:19.930 --> 0:01:22.690 I'm sorry I ran out of time with you, Carolyn, 0:01:22.690 --> 0:01:26.260 but I'm glad you stuck with us here. Uh, are 0:01:26.260 --> 0:01:27.490 you still there with me? 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:29.410 I am right here. 0:01:29.500 --> 0:01:34.180 Okay, so the question is based on the book 50 0:01:34.180 --> 0:01:37.210 Most Important Bible Questions. Let's see if I got this 0:01:37.209 --> 0:01:39.700 right that I talked about. Nothing will separate us from 0:01:39.700 --> 0:01:43.240 the love of God. Romans 838 and 39 that we 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.710 can't even separate ourselves because we're part of this world. 0:01:47.710 --> 0:01:51.340 We can't separate ourselves from the love of God. And yet, uh, 0:01:51.340 --> 0:01:54.490 there are people in your Bible study group who say 0:01:54.490 --> 0:01:57.280 that they have a loved one who used to, you know, 0:01:57.310 --> 0:02:02.350 went through all the different things, went forward, trusted the Lord, uh, 0:02:02.350 --> 0:02:06.280 went to camps and now they deny the faith. Have 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.700 they lost their salvation? Have I gotten it right? Is 0:02:09.700 --> 0:02:10.329 that the question? 0:02:10.690 --> 0:02:11.919 Perfectly right. 0:02:11.950 --> 0:02:14.680 Okay, well, I want to suggest, first of all, to 0:02:14.710 --> 0:02:18.760 read chapter four, not just chapter three, because in chapter four, 0:02:18.790 --> 0:02:23.830 I try to address those very kinds of objections that 0:02:23.830 --> 0:02:28.209 people have to what I said in chapter three. So 0:02:28.570 --> 0:02:30.700 so chapter four is there. 0:02:32.110 --> 0:02:33.220 So all right. 0:02:33.250 --> 0:02:35.200 Got to keep reading. But let me just mention a 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:36.970 couple of things. First of all, we want to go 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:42.130 with what the scriptures teach and not based on our experiences. 0:02:42.130 --> 0:02:47.079 I think that's something that's really important, uh, that the 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:52.330 the lens of Scripture is really clear about our security. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:56.680 It doesn't persist, doesn't pertain to perseverance of the saints. 0:02:56.700 --> 0:02:59.700 It's really more about perseverance of the Savior. Once he 0:02:59.700 --> 0:03:01.530 has us in his hands, he's not going to let 0:03:01.530 --> 0:03:05.010 go if he could lose one of us. John 637 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.310 through 40 says, then he's not who he claimed to be, 0:03:08.310 --> 0:03:10.620 and always doing the will of the father. He says, 0:03:10.620 --> 0:03:13.620 I always do the will of the father. Uh, John 0:03:13.620 --> 0:03:16.920 637 through 40. Uh, and this is the will of 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.380 my father, of the one who sent me, that I 0:03:19.410 --> 0:03:22.500 lose none of those he's given to me. So I 0:03:22.500 --> 0:03:26.730 think that it's important we go with Scripture. Uh, there 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.910 are some verses that might confuse people, but I think 0:03:29.940 --> 0:03:34.560 a good biblical principle is to interpret the unclear verses 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:39.900 in light of, uh, the really clear ones, like Romans 0:03:39.930 --> 0:03:42.570 838 and 39 and then. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:43.140 Yeah. 0:03:43.470 --> 0:03:49.200 Uh, third, sometimes we take verses like, uh, that might 0:03:49.230 --> 0:03:55.340 talk about losing rewards and turn them into verses Versus 0:03:55.370 --> 0:04:00.050 talk and allege that they mean losing salvation. But no, 0:04:00.050 --> 0:04:02.690 that's it's just loss of rewards. But here's a really 0:04:02.690 --> 0:04:07.220 important one. And and this is hard for people to 0:04:07.220 --> 0:04:10.430 accept that it might be might be I don't know 0:04:10.430 --> 0:04:12.410 for sure because no one knows their heart but God. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:17.030 It might be that they were not genuine believers. It says. 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:17.480 Yeah. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.710 It says in first John two verse 19 that they 0:04:21.740 --> 0:04:26.360 went out from us, but they were really not of us, 0:04:26.390 --> 0:04:29.120 not really of us. For if they had been of us, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:33.050 they would have remained with us. But if they went out, uh, 0:04:33.050 --> 0:04:35.060 but they went out so that it would be shown 0:04:35.060 --> 0:04:39.440 that they all are not of us. And I would 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:44.119 give the other verse is in Matthew 723, when the 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.219 people say, oh, Lord, look at all the wonderful things 0:04:46.220 --> 0:04:48.380 we did in your name. And the Lord says, depart 0:04:48.380 --> 0:04:54.020 from me. I never knew you not. You lost it, 0:04:54.140 --> 0:04:55.640 but you never had it. 0:04:55.790 --> 0:04:56.990 So yeah. 0:04:57.020 --> 0:05:00.980 It's okay for young people often to kind of mimic 0:05:00.980 --> 0:05:04.489 what looks like faith. But when it comes down to it, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.940 when the rubber hits the road, they decide not to believe. 0:05:07.970 --> 0:05:11.210 I don't think they're losing their faith, although some of 0:05:11.210 --> 0:05:14.359 them may come back around and, uh, and I that's 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.960 our great hope. And it demonstrates that they really did believe. 0:05:17.990 --> 0:05:22.310 But some of them, it just demonstrates that they, they 0:05:22.310 --> 0:05:25.760 never really genuinely believed. Okay. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.470 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 0:05:27.500 --> 0:05:28.430 So read chapter. 0:05:28.430 --> 0:05:28.970 Four. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.260 Okay Carolyn. 0:05:31.339 --> 0:05:36.050 I will they didn't circle chapter four but I'm going 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.390 to make them I'm going to make them add that 0:05:38.390 --> 0:05:39.349 on to the list. 0:05:39.380 --> 0:05:44.300 Okay. Great. Appreciate it Carolyn. Thanks for your call. Uh, 0:05:44.330 --> 0:05:50.989 my we're going to talk to, uh, Myra in Rome, Georgia, 0:05:51.020 --> 0:05:55.630 right now. Uh, I don't know how you're listening, but 0:05:55.630 --> 0:05:58.239 I'm glad you are. Uh, welcome to Open Line. How 0:05:58.240 --> 0:05:59.230 can I help you? 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:05.110 Hi. Um, I just had a question, because I've recently 0:06:05.110 --> 0:06:12.460 been struggling with, um, finding an explanation or, um, a 0:06:12.460 --> 0:06:19.930 reason to children's suffering. Um, particularly, um, more on the, um, 0:06:20.650 --> 0:06:26.469 I guess extreme evils like rape, trafficking or murder. Um, 0:06:26.470 --> 0:06:31.240 I know that God is a good God, and I'm Christian, 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.779 and I know that the Bible says what Satan meant 0:06:34.779 --> 0:06:40.570 for evil. God meant it for good. Um, but I'm 0:06:40.570 --> 0:06:46.420 still struggling with, um, an explanation for children who are 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:55.589 completely vulnerable. Um, and I I've tried, um, searching online 0:06:55.589 --> 0:07:00.900 and the internet, um, for answers. And I decided to 0:07:00.900 --> 0:07:01.890 call in. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:07.200 Um. Well, I don't think there's any easy answer to this. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:14.010 I do know that that, uh, the Lord's heart breaks 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:19.920 over the evil that is done to anyone at any time, 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:27.000 but in particular, these little ones. Remember he said, anyone that, uh, uh, 0:07:27.300 --> 0:07:30.390 harms one of these little ones. It'd be better to 0:07:30.420 --> 0:07:33.330 have a millstone tied around his neck and tie it 0:07:33.330 --> 0:07:37.710 around him and cast into the sea. Right. So, uh, 0:07:37.710 --> 0:07:44.790 there is, uh, a great deal of compassion for anyone 0:07:44.790 --> 0:07:51.200 who is a child that suffered these horrible things. And 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.860 I think that there's compassion from God for the children. 0:07:54.860 --> 0:08:02.840 And also, uh, there's, uh, justice that will those who 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.420 do them, they will have to face the justice of 0:08:05.420 --> 0:08:11.120 God one day. Uh, another aspect I think that's really 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:16.760 important is that we live in a fallen world. And 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:24.650 when God set up Adam and Eve in the garden, 0:08:25.010 --> 0:08:27.050 if they were to obey, it was going to be 0:08:27.050 --> 0:08:29.870 a it was a perfect environment. But once they passed 0:08:29.870 --> 0:08:32.630 the test, I think it would have even been an assured, 0:08:32.630 --> 0:08:37.790 certain perfect environment. But they didn't pass the test. And 0:08:37.790 --> 0:08:40.880 as a result, the world is fallen. And when we 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:45.380 read in the book of Romans, it talks about how 0:08:45.380 --> 0:08:52.100 the whole creation is awaiting redemption, that all the evil 0:08:52.100 --> 0:08:56.180 in the world that's happening makes us long for the 0:08:56.179 --> 0:08:59.030 day when the King will sit on the throne, and 0:08:59.030 --> 0:09:06.200 he will execute justice immediately, and he'll protect and guard 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:11.840 against this kind of evil happening. But right now, because 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.650 of the decision of our forefathers, we live in a 0:09:15.650 --> 0:09:20.120 fallen world that causes us to long for the day 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:26.420 of redemption. And what God does now is he will, 0:09:26.420 --> 0:09:35.780 I believe, uh, bring compassion when these things happen. But 0:09:35.780 --> 0:09:39.080 a lot of us think God's going to intervene immediately 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.689 when evil things are happening in the world. I don't 0:09:41.690 --> 0:09:44.930 think we can accept that, but God can use the 0:09:44.929 --> 0:09:51.610 evil to bring about good. Sometimes we can't see it. Uh, 0:09:51.610 --> 0:09:55.959 one of the things that that God does is he 0:09:55.990 --> 0:10:00.910 turns some of these children who have been misused or hurt. Uh, 0:10:00.910 --> 0:10:06.070 their redemption and their transformed life brings greater glory to him. Uh, 0:10:06.100 --> 0:10:09.429 I think that's something that God can do. He creates 0:10:09.429 --> 0:10:14.980 heroes through that. We'd never understand the perfect world that 0:10:14.980 --> 0:10:18.819 God would or long for it, that God's going to make. 0:10:18.850 --> 0:10:22.690 Were it not for the suffering that happens here in 0:10:22.690 --> 0:10:25.120 this world. So those are some of the reasons, but 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.150 I don't think there's any simple explanation. But I do 0:10:28.150 --> 0:10:30.040 think that we do need to know where it comes from. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.400 It comes from the fallen world that we live in. Uh, 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.410 does that help at all, Mary? 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.800 Yes, that does help. Thank you. 0:10:38.830 --> 0:10:42.790 I just want you to think. To know this. Anyone 0:10:42.790 --> 0:10:46.020 that's been abused that way, talking about it being a 0:10:46.020 --> 0:10:51.480 fallen world. That's not the best answer, and it's the 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:55.559 true answer, but it doesn't take away the pain. I 0:10:55.590 --> 0:10:59.160 often compare talking about that with like a little boy, 0:10:59.190 --> 0:11:02.579 a toddler that sticks his finger in the outlet, the 0:11:02.580 --> 0:11:05.550 electrical outlet and gets the shock of his life, and 0:11:05.550 --> 0:11:10.920 he's crying in pain, and his mom goes to him and, uh, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.679 and she says, well, let me explain to you how 0:11:13.710 --> 0:11:16.890 electricity works. That's not going to help. What does she do? 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.250 She takes him in her arms and she comforts him. 0:11:20.250 --> 0:11:22.559 And I think that's why the Bible says we rejoice 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.200 with those who rejoice, and we weep with those who 0:11:25.230 --> 0:11:30.780 weep when we encounter people who have been hurt this way, 0:11:30.780 --> 0:11:32.670 what we need to do is weep with them, not 0:11:32.670 --> 0:11:35.100 explain to them, okay? 0:11:35.670 --> 0:11:36.300 Okay. 0:11:36.330 --> 0:11:39.270 Yeah. Thanks for your call. I really appreciate it. Mayor, 0:11:39.270 --> 0:11:44.880 thank you so much. Uh, and, uh, We're going to 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.679 take a break. If you have a question, you can 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:54.690 call (877) 548-3675. This is open line. You can ask any 0:11:54.690 --> 0:11:57.420 question you're thinking about about the Bible, God or the 0:11:57.420 --> 0:12:00.060 spiritual life. I'll do my best to answer it. 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Remember ask for the story of the Bible 0:14:15.940 --> 0:14:19.180 by Carl Laney. Well I want to talk about a 0:14:19.180 --> 0:14:23.200 call from, uh, earlier someone called up and want to 0:14:23.230 --> 0:14:27.250 know about slaying in the spirit, and I talked about 0:14:27.250 --> 0:14:29.680 it and said I didn't think it was a work 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.040 of the spirit. I didn't mean to offend people. Someone 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.650 called and said, you know, I shouldn't judge. I wasn't 0:14:35.650 --> 0:14:37.840 trying to judge. In fact, there are many people who 0:14:37.870 --> 0:14:44.050 say that since it's not mentioned in Scripture. Uh, that 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:48.970 it it's, uh, you know, that it's something from the enemy. 0:14:48.970 --> 0:14:51.220 I don't think it's from the enemy. Here's what I 0:14:51.220 --> 0:14:54.070 think it is. And I was not trying to judge. 0:14:54.370 --> 0:14:59.980 I think it's a surge of adrenaline, just like those, uh, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.180 young women who saw Elvis and got all filled with 0:15:04.210 --> 0:15:09.040 adrenaline and and collapsed. Sometimes I think there are people 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.350 doing that. And then there are others who don't want 0:15:11.350 --> 0:15:14.260 to appear. This is what a testimony that I have 0:15:14.260 --> 0:15:17.560 received from various people, that they don't want to seem 0:15:17.590 --> 0:15:21.010 unspiritual so that they go down as well, even though 0:15:21.010 --> 0:15:24.220 they don't have that surge of adrenaline. That's not trying 0:15:24.220 --> 0:15:27.670 to judge people, that's just trying to evaluate something that 0:15:27.670 --> 0:15:30.940 we're seeing happen. And I'm sorry if you took it 0:15:30.940 --> 0:15:33.400 that way. Listen, I really do believe and I say 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.290 this all the time, if there's one thing that's going 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.990 to get people annoyed with me, uh, there are many 0:15:37.990 --> 0:15:42.280 things I specialize in annoying people. No, no, but, uh, 0:15:42.310 --> 0:15:44.740 if there's something that's going to annoy people with an 0:15:44.740 --> 0:15:49.150 answer I give, it's when I comment on, uh, some 0:15:49.150 --> 0:15:52.960 things that are happening in the charismatic world, it's not 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:57.100 because I'm trying to be unkind. I just want to 0:15:57.130 --> 0:16:00.340 answer it as best I can, biblically and practically. Uh, 0:16:00.340 --> 0:16:02.710 that's all I'm trying to do. But I do really 0:16:02.710 --> 0:16:04.960 believe that what we need to do is love each other. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.710 I think, for example, the purpose of First Corinthians 13, 0:16:08.710 --> 0:16:11.740 set in the section of First Corinthians 12 through 14, 0:16:11.740 --> 0:16:14.260 all about spiritual gifts is not so that we would 0:16:14.260 --> 0:16:16.450 argue with each other, but we should exercise our gifts 0:16:16.450 --> 0:16:19.300 with love. And that's what I really feel for my 0:16:19.330 --> 0:16:22.630 my charismatic brothers and sisters. I wasn't trying to judge, 0:16:22.630 --> 0:16:26.290 I was just trying to explain. So if that's, uh. 0:16:26.380 --> 0:16:28.660 I hope that helps you, Anna, with your call. I 0:16:28.660 --> 0:16:31.120 know you're not there anymore, but that's what I wanted 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.230 to address. Uh, and we're going to go to the 0:16:35.230 --> 0:16:41.720 phones now and talk to Bob in New York. Uh, 0:16:41.900 --> 0:16:44.630 listening on the app. Welcome to Open Line. Bob. How 0:16:44.630 --> 0:16:45.560 can I help you? 0:16:46.430 --> 0:16:50.870 Uh, Shalom, doctor Redlich. A pleasure to speak to you, sir. Um, 0:16:50.870 --> 0:16:53.270 I had a question, sir, in the passage in First 0:16:53.270 --> 0:16:57.350 Corinthians 219, and it's, um, a good lead in what 0:16:57.350 --> 0:16:59.180 you just said. You're not looking to pick on your 0:16:59.180 --> 0:17:03.500 charismatic brothers. I'm not looking to really, uh, pick on 0:17:03.650 --> 0:17:07.159 Roman Catholics by asking this question, but a lot of 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:12.500 Roman Catholics use First Kings 219 as the picture of 0:17:12.530 --> 0:17:19.700 saying that. See here Jesus is Enthroning Mary at his side. Um, 0:17:19.700 --> 0:17:22.939 it's the passage where, uh, Bathsheba comes in to speak 0:17:22.940 --> 0:17:26.000 to King Solomon. It says, and King Solomon sits upon 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:30.350 his throne and he sets up a throne for Bathsheba. 0:17:30.500 --> 0:17:34.250 Now I'm trying to find the Hebrew words to see 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:38.810 exactly If the throne he sets up for her is 0:17:39.109 --> 0:17:43.550 is the same word throne for his kingly throne? Or 0:17:43.550 --> 0:17:47.330 is it just more of a common seat or a chair? 0:17:47.330 --> 0:17:49.730 And I just want to get a better understanding of 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.850 that in the in the Hebrew, so that I could 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.000 better explain it to some of my friends who think 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.480 it's the, you know, it means what I just explained 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:00.710 that it means to them. 0:18:00.740 --> 0:18:08.840 Well, the Hebrew word is kisi, and kisi means chair. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:15.770 And it's used in this passage not only, uh, of, uh, 0:18:15.770 --> 0:18:18.650 her throne, but it's also used of the king's throne. 0:18:19.369 --> 0:18:22.909 It just means chair. Or when it's dealing with royalty. 0:18:22.940 --> 0:18:27.260 What is a royal chair? It's a throne. That's it. Uh, 0:18:27.260 --> 0:18:31.130 and so that's why it's translated throne. Because that's what 0:18:31.130 --> 0:18:32.960 the king sat on. And that's the kind of chair 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.190 that was brought for her. That's all it is. I 0:18:36.190 --> 0:18:39.520 don't think it's talking about at all. I mean, think 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.030 about what the passage is about. It's about King Solomon 0:18:43.030 --> 0:18:47.500 and Bathsheba. It's not talking about, uh, the Lord Jesus 0:18:47.500 --> 0:18:50.560 king making a throne for Mary. It's just not in 0:18:50.590 --> 0:18:52.750 that text. Uh, I. 0:18:52.750 --> 0:18:54.940 I agree with you. Like I said, that's. 0:18:54.970 --> 0:18:56.949 Yeah, I know how they take it, but that's not it. 0:18:56.950 --> 0:19:00.190 I'll tell you what it does show. Okay. And this 0:19:00.190 --> 0:19:08.320 is important. It does indicate at least honor, but likely equality, 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.699 that by putting a throne next to him, he was 0:19:12.700 --> 0:19:18.879 honoring his mother by treating her as an equal. And 0:19:19.390 --> 0:19:22.060 you look at Daniel seven, and it says there that 0:19:22.060 --> 0:19:25.540 the Ancient of Days seated on the throne and thrones 0:19:25.540 --> 0:19:27.820 are set up. And then there's the Son of Man. 0:19:27.820 --> 0:19:31.090 That second throne that is set up is for the 0:19:31.090 --> 0:19:35.879 Son of Man to show equality with the Ancient of Days, 0:19:36.150 --> 0:19:38.850 the one like the Son of Man. And then take 0:19:38.850 --> 0:19:42.600 that to Psalm 110, where it says that the messianic 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.230 king will sit at the right hand of the father. 0:19:46.859 --> 0:19:52.649 What does that indicating an honorific position of equality to 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.129 the father. And so, more than anything else, this helps 0:19:56.130 --> 0:19:58.170 us get to the the whole point of the book 0:19:58.170 --> 0:20:01.830 of Hebrews, which is sort of an exposition of Psalm 110, 0:20:01.859 --> 0:20:04.260 which sees the Lord Jesus seated at the right hand 0:20:04.260 --> 0:20:08.790 of the father, that indicates that the son has equal 0:20:08.820 --> 0:20:14.909 honor to the father in the Triune One. God does. 0:20:14.940 --> 0:20:16.710 Does that help? Yeah. 0:20:17.100 --> 0:20:20.820 It does help. Thank you very much, doctor. I appreciate that, sir. 0:20:20.850 --> 0:20:24.090 Yeah. Thanks for thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Uh, 0:20:24.090 --> 0:20:27.720 we're going to talk to Jennifer in Palm Beach, Florida, 0:20:27.750 --> 0:20:31.080 listening on Wrnb. Welcome to Open Line, Jennifer. How can 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:31.960 I help you? 0:20:32.290 --> 0:20:37.810 Thank you very much, Adele. I have a friend who 0:20:37.810 --> 0:20:42.490 is 103 years old. He does not believe in Jesus. 0:20:42.490 --> 0:20:45.970 When I say John 316 to her, he said, if 0:20:45.970 --> 0:20:49.030 he has done anything for you, you must know. And 0:20:49.030 --> 0:20:52.990 she's not a practicing Jew. So I asked her, you're 0:20:52.990 --> 0:20:55.600 not a practicing Jew and you don't believe in Jesus. 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.630 Where are you? She did not answer. I don't know 0:20:58.630 --> 0:21:00.370 what to say to her. I know what to say 0:21:00.369 --> 0:21:03.550 to her. But I don't know how to say. She's 103. 0:21:03.850 --> 0:21:13.030 Mhm. Well, uh, she obviously sounds like a secular Jewish person. And, uh, 0:21:13.060 --> 0:21:15.159 you know, there are secular Jews who say, well, we 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:19.270 know which God we don't believe in. So meaning. 0:21:19.300 --> 0:21:19.810 That and. 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.350 And, and she thinks, okay, I'm a good person. 0:21:23.380 --> 0:21:23.860 Yeah. 0:21:23.890 --> 0:21:27.790 Her grandchildren, they are good people. They are very good children. 0:21:27.820 --> 0:21:28.179 Yeah. 0:21:28.210 --> 0:21:31.790 So. But I don't see it that way, but I 0:21:31.790 --> 0:21:33.260 don't know how to say it to her. 0:21:33.590 --> 0:21:34.429 Yeah. 0:21:34.850 --> 0:21:44.540 Well, it seems to me, uh, that, uh, probably the 0:21:44.540 --> 0:21:49.310 the best thing is to keep sharing your story. 0:21:49.910 --> 0:21:51.199 I do. 0:21:51.500 --> 0:21:53.510 Yeah. But, uh, and keep. 0:21:53.510 --> 0:21:57.410 Raising the flag and keep raising the flag of what 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.930 God is doing in your life. 0:21:59.960 --> 0:22:02.900 Yes, yes I tried. Uh. 0:22:03.170 --> 0:22:08.360 And, uh, of course, sooner or later, what you, and 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.810 probably sooner at her age is to let her know 0:22:11.810 --> 0:22:16.040 that at 103, she can't expect to live very much longer, 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:19.070 that all of us one day are going to stand 0:22:19.070 --> 0:22:26.090 before God, and that the Jewish Messiah, Jesus Yeshua, is 0:22:26.090 --> 0:22:28.250 the one who has made it possible because none of 0:22:28.250 --> 0:22:31.330 us are good enough. But he's made it possible. And 0:22:31.330 --> 0:22:33.729 then you might want to just show her where in 0:22:33.730 --> 0:22:39.250 the Hebrew Bible, uh, it talks about the Jewish Messiah Yeshua. 0:22:39.250 --> 0:22:44.170 How Yeshua fulfilled that. Uh, uh, do you think you'd 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:45.550 be able to do that? 0:22:46.780 --> 0:22:48.700 I could, if I know. 0:22:48.730 --> 0:22:49.600 Okay. Well. 0:22:50.380 --> 0:22:53.500 I cannot remember where these things are from, but I 0:22:53.500 --> 0:22:53.740 know a. 0:22:53.740 --> 0:22:55.780 Lot of scriptures here. Let me do this. 0:22:55.780 --> 0:22:58.419 For you, Jennifer. You you. Hang on. Someone else mentioned 0:22:58.450 --> 0:23:01.330 this book. 50 Most Important Bible Questions. I've got two 0:23:01.330 --> 0:23:03.280 chapters in there. You have it. 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:03.730 Okay. 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.460 Yes, I have it. I got it from you. Yes, 0:23:06.460 --> 0:23:07.060 I have it. 0:23:07.090 --> 0:23:08.200 Okay, well. 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:12.040 The the book has a couple of chapters and you 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:17.800 could review what's in there, uh, about, uh, the the 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:19.150 messianic hope. 0:23:19.300 --> 0:23:20.260 Uh, okay. 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.850 Here's, uh, I'm trying to find which chapter it is, but, uh, 0:23:24.850 --> 0:23:28.410 what you can do. Oh, question 29. what does the 0:23:28.410 --> 0:23:32.610 Old Testament reveal about the Messiah? That's a good question 0:23:32.609 --> 0:23:35.340 for you to review and strengthen. 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:36.600 Okay. Thank you. 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:37.020 And. 0:23:37.020 --> 0:23:39.209 Review that and be aware of it and then be 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:43.740 able to explain to her, uh, what uh, go through 0:23:43.740 --> 0:23:46.770 Isaiah 53, which shows how the Messiah was going to 0:23:46.770 --> 0:23:49.290 take the punishment that we deserved. 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:49.830 Yes. 0:23:49.859 --> 0:23:54.240 And be raised again and and encourage her to believe. 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:58.350 I mean, she she you can't force people, but she 0:23:58.380 --> 0:24:00.720 obviously likes you and will listen. 0:24:00.750 --> 0:24:01.740 Yes she does. 0:24:01.830 --> 0:24:02.820 So. 0:24:02.820 --> 0:24:06.000 So what you want to do is. But emphasize that 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.750 that you believe in the Jewish Messiah, that Jesus is 0:24:09.750 --> 0:24:12.300 the Son of David, that if he were not the 0:24:12.300 --> 0:24:15.720 Messiah of Israel, he wouldn't be the Messiah for anyone. 0:24:15.930 --> 0:24:19.740 And and that's what I would emphasize with her and 0:24:19.740 --> 0:24:21.450 tell her that, you know, we all have to all 0:24:21.450 --> 0:24:23.699 of us have to be ready to face God at 0:24:23.700 --> 0:24:25.980 any moment because we don't know what the future is. 0:24:25.980 --> 0:24:28.770 But when you're 103, it's time to get ready. 0:24:28.770 --> 0:24:31.260 That's time to be ready. 0:24:32.340 --> 0:24:32.880 I mean. 0:24:32.910 --> 0:24:33.870 I feel. 0:24:33.869 --> 0:24:34.439 Like. 0:24:34.470 --> 0:24:36.810 Whatever our age is, we need to be ready because 0:24:36.810 --> 0:24:37.350 we just don't. 0:24:37.350 --> 0:24:38.189 Know what's what's. 0:24:38.190 --> 0:24:39.419 Going to happen. 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:40.229 But I. 0:24:40.230 --> 0:24:40.650 Know. 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:41.790 But. 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.850 Uh, and I find that a lot of times people 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:49.200 can present the good news using the New Testament, but 0:24:49.230 --> 0:24:51.540 it would be really good idea to learn how to 0:24:51.570 --> 0:24:55.530 present the good news just using the Hebrew Bible. 0:24:55.770 --> 0:24:56.610 You know. 0:24:56.940 --> 0:25:01.020 Uh, and a good place to start is Isaiah 53, 0:25:01.050 --> 0:25:03.450 where it says, all we like sheep have gone astray. 0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:05.760 Each of us has turned to his own way. Meaning 0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.490 we all sin. But the Lord laid on him the 0:25:08.490 --> 0:25:11.879 iniquity of us all. Jesus died to take the punishment 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.810 that we deserved. And then it says that he'll see 0:25:15.810 --> 0:25:20.070 the light of life. That means that he'll be resurrected. Uh, 0:25:20.070 --> 0:25:23.729 and so he died taking the punishment we deserved and 0:25:23.730 --> 0:25:27.290 was resurrected, proving that he is really God and that 0:25:27.290 --> 0:25:31.429 he can forgive our sins. And. And and encourage her 0:25:31.430 --> 0:25:33.710 to trust in him. You never know how she's and 0:25:33.740 --> 0:25:37.340 ask her to. Can you trust me about other things? 0:25:37.340 --> 0:25:40.010 Maybe you need to trust me about this as well. 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:41.719 Okay, so thank you so much. 0:25:42.050 --> 0:25:42.530 Doctor. 0:25:42.740 --> 0:25:46.040 Yeah. Thank you for calling, Jennifer. And thanks God will 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.709 open this woman's heart. I pray we'll be back in 0:25:48.710 --> 0:25:51.410 just a moment with more of your questions right here 0:25:51.410 --> 0:26:10.730 on Open Line. Welcome back to Open Line. I'm Michael 0:26:10.730 --> 0:26:13.189 Radonich and joining me is our producer for today to 0:26:13.220 --> 0:26:17.180 hear Haines. She's we're here for the Febc mailbag. But 0:26:17.180 --> 0:26:19.730 before we talk about well the Febc mailbag is so 0:26:19.730 --> 0:26:23.030 important because Febc partners with us to bring the mailbag 0:26:23.060 --> 0:26:27.709 to you. 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And, you know, I 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.939 just think people have no idea how much fun we 0:28:23.940 --> 0:28:26.280 have as a team. I really believe we have a 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:31.740 great team. Uh, a lot of times you couldn't imagine, uh, 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.800 doing I couldn't imagine doing this program. When I first started, 0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.440 we had a call screener and me, and that was it. 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:43.590 And an engineer. And, uh, I think that they said, 0:28:43.590 --> 0:28:45.660 we better get him a team because it's not going well. 0:28:45.660 --> 0:28:50.400 So we have our engineer, Omar, and we have Lisa 0:28:50.430 --> 0:28:52.320 as another producer. 0:28:52.350 --> 0:28:54.930 So yeah, Lisa's doing phones today, is she not? 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.860 Yeah. 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And Roy gave 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.090 us numbers 825 and it says, but at 50 years old, 0:31:02.090 --> 0:31:04.400 he is to retire from his service in the work 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:09.170 and no longer serve. So he gave us a verse 0:31:09.170 --> 0:31:10.310 about the Levites. 0:31:10.340 --> 0:31:12.590 Yeah. Well, I. 0:31:12.590 --> 0:31:14.660 Think this verse, if you read the whole thing, the 0:31:14.660 --> 0:31:19.180 next verse as well, it affirms exactly what I was saying, 0:31:19.180 --> 0:31:23.500 that we never actually stop serving in God's kingdom. We 0:31:23.500 --> 0:31:26.980 may change when we come to retirement. And here's what 0:31:26.980 --> 0:31:32.590 I mean by that. If you look at Roman numbers 825, uh, 0:31:32.590 --> 0:31:36.730 one of the things that we, uh, don't realize is 0:31:36.730 --> 0:31:41.260 how much hard work went into, uh, the heavy labor. 0:31:41.260 --> 0:31:43.960 And at 50, it was a little too hard. And 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.600 so he said he can retire from his service. He 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.770 may assist his brothers to fulfill responsibilities at the tent 0:31:50.770 --> 0:31:54.580 of meeting, but he must not do the work. In 0:31:54.580 --> 0:31:59.530 other words, he can kind of assist, doesn't retire completely, 0:31:59.530 --> 0:32:02.980 go away, but rather he's still doing the work, but 0:32:02.980 --> 0:32:06.910 he's not doing the heavy lifting. That's that's what, uh, 0:32:06.910 --> 0:32:11.140 825 and 26 is saying. It's not like he abandons 0:32:11.140 --> 0:32:13.990 the work. He still can assist his brothers in the work, 0:32:13.990 --> 0:32:16.290 but not the heavy lifting. Okay. 0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:19.440 Thank you Wayne. Thank you Roy. Thank you. Michael. It 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:20.940 sounds like discipleship. 0:32:20.970 --> 0:32:25.590 Yeah. And and also that you don't ever retire from 0:32:25.590 --> 0:32:26.760 the service of the king. 0:32:27.210 --> 0:32:30.870 That's true, that's true. We stay on mission. Yes. We 0:32:30.870 --> 0:32:36.570 have another question from Robin in Georgia. Georgia listening through Wmw. 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.710 Does Scripture tell us who King David's mother is? 0:32:40.830 --> 0:32:41.310 Mhm. 0:32:42.570 --> 0:32:45.840 I think this question comes up because there's this new 0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:52.380 TV show about House of David. Okay. And in it, it, 0:32:52.410 --> 0:32:59.310 it says that David, they've taken creative license. And what 0:32:59.310 --> 0:33:02.700 they say is David was an illegitimate child that Jesse 0:33:02.730 --> 0:33:08.790 had with a, uh, a Philistine woman, I believe is 0:33:08.790 --> 0:33:13.680 what they say. Uh, and the Bible doesn't tell us 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.480 who King David's mother was, but that's a miss that 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:21.370 that creative license that they've taken is based on a mistranslation, 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:25.000 a misunderstanding of the words in Psalm 51 which says, 0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.790 in sin my mother conceived me. It doesn't mean that 0:33:27.790 --> 0:33:30.100 he was illegitimate. What it means is that he was 0:33:30.100 --> 0:33:34.210 born with a sin nature. Uh, with sin. I guess 0:33:34.210 --> 0:33:37.510 you could almost translate it. My mother conceived me. Uh, 0:33:37.540 --> 0:33:40.480 that from the point of conception, I had the nature 0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:45.070 to sin. That's what that means. Uh, and so we 0:33:45.070 --> 0:33:46.960 don't know who it is. We know who? His great grandmother. 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.590 It was Ruth who gave birth to Obed. Who gave 0:33:50.590 --> 0:33:55.959 birth to Jesse, and, uh, father of Jesse. And then 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.140 Jesse fathered David. But it doesn't say anything in Scripture 0:33:59.140 --> 0:34:03.370 about a Philistine, illegitimate or illegitimate child. And so just remember, 0:34:03.370 --> 0:34:06.490 when you watch that TV show, if you do, that's 0:34:06.490 --> 0:34:07.870 that's all made up. 0:34:07.930 --> 0:34:12.469 So thank you for that great explanation, Michael. Yeah. We 0:34:12.469 --> 0:34:17.510 also have John Illinois listening through WMI. Since we are 0:34:17.510 --> 0:34:20.030 not to look to the stars for our future or 0:34:20.030 --> 0:34:22.969 for life in general, I'm curious as to why God 0:34:22.969 --> 0:34:26.000 used a star to lead the Magi to the Messiah. 0:34:26.660 --> 0:34:31.250 I think we're not supposed to use to to use astrology, 0:34:31.250 --> 0:34:36.350 but they weren't using astrology. They were astronomers, these wise 0:34:36.350 --> 0:34:41.600 men in the East. And God put something very unusual 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:45.140 and led them, although it wasn't really a star, looked 0:34:45.140 --> 0:34:48.680 like a star, but it wasn't really a star because 0:34:48.710 --> 0:34:52.610 stars don't move, you know, they they're in the sky. 0:34:52.610 --> 0:34:55.279 They don't move. And yet this star moved. I think 0:34:55.280 --> 0:35:00.650 this star was much more better understood as the pillar 0:35:00.650 --> 0:35:05.600 of fire, the the glory of God, just like the 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:09.529 the pillar of fire that led Israel through the wilderness 0:35:09.530 --> 0:35:14.589 at night. And the cloud that led them by day. 0:35:14.590 --> 0:35:17.410 But the pillar of fire, that's what it was. Obviously, 0:35:17.410 --> 0:35:20.620 this is talking about nighttime because you couldn't see it 0:35:20.620 --> 0:35:24.160 during the day. If it was, uh, if it was 0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:28.390 a star. And so, uh, it seems to me there 0:35:28.390 --> 0:35:31.900 are two different things. Astrology is negative and scripture, but 0:35:31.900 --> 0:35:34.330 this was a sign in the sky that God used 0:35:34.330 --> 0:35:37.990 to lead these, these astronomers, as they were looking up 0:35:37.989 --> 0:35:42.489 at the stars to lead them through the Shekinah glory 0:35:42.489 --> 0:35:43.300 of God. 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.669 So thank you. 0:35:45.700 --> 0:35:46.810 Okay. Yeah. 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.630 Well, thanks for bringing those questions into here. And thanks 0:35:49.630 --> 0:35:52.870 for sending them in by going to npr.org and clicking 0:35:52.870 --> 0:35:56.500 on Ask Michael a question that was to hear Haines, 0:35:56.500 --> 0:35:59.500 I'm Michael Zelnick. And remember, you can send your question 0:35:59.500 --> 0:36:02.259 in to us by going to the website. Ask Michael 0:36:02.290 --> 0:36:04.959 a question. And when you click on that, it gets 0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.239 put in the mailbag. I'll be right back with more 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.180 of your calls in just a moment. Thanks for listening, 0:36:10.180 --> 0:36:23.290 and we'll be right back. Welcome back to Open Line. 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.500 So glad to be with you this Saturday morning. Uh, 0:36:26.500 --> 0:36:31.390 have you ever wondered, uh, earlier, someone called and asked 0:36:31.390 --> 0:36:36.790 about their 103 year old Jewish friend. Did she need 0:36:36.790 --> 0:36:39.219 to know? Jesus? How do I talk with her? Well, 0:36:39.219 --> 0:36:41.320 a lot of people wonder because God gave a covenant 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.930 to the Jewish people because he's faithful and loves the 0:36:43.930 --> 0:36:47.920 Jewish people, that perhaps Jewish people don't need to put 0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.920 their trust in Jesus. Do they still need to hear 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:55.870 the good news? Well, Doctor Al Mohler's answer is yes. 0:36:55.900 --> 0:37:00.100 Absolutely yes. Chosen People Ministries is offering his book called 0:37:00.100 --> 0:37:03.370 To the Jew First in the 21st century. And Doctor Mohler, 0:37:03.370 --> 0:37:07.060 who's the president of Southern Baptist Seminary in Louisville. He 0:37:07.060 --> 0:37:10.320 maintains that bringing the gospel to the Jewish people is 0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.800 the most evident sign of faithfulness that we can have 0:37:13.830 --> 0:37:17.310 to the truth of the gospel. For your free copy, 0:37:17.340 --> 0:37:22.020 go to Open Line radio.org. Scroll down and click on 0:37:22.020 --> 0:37:27.509 the link that says A Free gift from Chosen People Ministries. 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Uh, a lot of people 0:38:08.180 --> 0:38:11.120 do a lot of different things after they graduate from Moody. Uh, 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:16.400 but getting that biblical, theological, practical ministry foundation will guide 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.340 you all through life. So if you have a child 0:38:19.340 --> 0:38:22.730 or a grandchild, let them look at Moody, Dot Edu. 0:38:22.730 --> 0:38:26.810 And then also want to mention that I'll be teaching 0:38:26.810 --> 0:38:31.549 on a cruise, uh, this coming December in the in 0:38:31.580 --> 0:38:34.910 the Caribbean, a Bible conference on a boat, so to speak. 0:38:34.910 --> 0:38:37.160 And if you are interested in going on a tall 0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:41.870 ship and enjoying, uh, worship and scripture twice a day, uh, 0:38:41.870 --> 0:38:45.169 that would be a great experience. Just go to Openline 0:38:45.170 --> 0:38:49.430 radio.org and click on my personal web page. It's there 0:38:49.430 --> 0:38:51.920 at the bottom. You can click on that, and when 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.290 you go there you'll learn all about that. We're going 0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:56.120 to go right back to the phones right now to 0:38:56.150 --> 0:39:00.020 talk to Doug in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, listening on Rmbb. 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.500 Welcome to Open Line. Doug, how can I help you? 0:39:04.670 --> 0:39:09.700 I have a question about versions of the Bible. Um, 0:39:09.700 --> 0:39:12.370 I try to read the Bible, but I get kind 0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.570 of confused by by reading the King James. And I 0:39:16.570 --> 0:39:20.050 was wondering if, like the contemporary English version or the 0:39:20.050 --> 0:39:25.420 modern English version are actually, like bad or anything that 0:39:25.420 --> 0:39:29.080 I should be concerned with because I know the The 0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:33.430 Message Bible is a paraphrase, and that's not really the 0:39:33.430 --> 0:39:35.650 best version. So I want to know if some of 0:39:35.650 --> 0:39:39.910 the other versions are adequate for me to learn, because. 0:39:39.940 --> 0:39:40.360 Yeah. 0:39:40.390 --> 0:39:42.940 I have a hard time with the like I said, 0:39:43.030 --> 0:39:44.080 with the King James. 0:39:44.110 --> 0:39:47.350 Yeah. Uh, first of all, I don't I don't think 0:39:47.350 --> 0:39:50.200 there's anything wrong with the King James. Uh, a lot 0:39:50.230 --> 0:39:53.200 of people find it helpful. It's been God's word in 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.310 people's hands in the English language for 500 years. Uh, 0:39:57.310 --> 0:40:01.930 I think that that's pretty cool. However, I do think 0:40:01.930 --> 0:40:04.810 that we know a lot more about biblical texts. Since 0:40:04.810 --> 0:40:10.270 that day, and I strongly recommend people to read a 0:40:10.270 --> 0:40:14.049 more modern version, not just the new King James, which 0:40:14.050 --> 0:40:17.140 is a good translation, but because of the textual basis 0:40:17.140 --> 0:40:22.450 to read a modern version, there's a whole spectrum of 0:40:22.450 --> 0:40:27.310 translation from, uh, word for word to thought, for thought, 0:40:27.340 --> 0:40:30.280 to somewhere in the middle. I happen to like, and 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.850 I think the easiest one to understand is the Holman CSB. 0:40:34.540 --> 0:40:37.750 But the ESV is good, the NLT is good, the 0:40:37.750 --> 0:40:42.100 NIV is good. They all have different aspects to it. 0:40:42.100 --> 0:40:46.989 But I think that the Holman CSB is is quite good. 0:40:46.989 --> 0:40:50.140 I would encourage you to read one of those. Not 0:40:50.140 --> 0:40:54.070 a paraphrase, but a translation. I think that would be good. Uh, 0:40:54.070 --> 0:40:56.560 my wife loves the New American standard. I find it 0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.680 a little bumpy, but it's the most literal. Uh, the 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:03.299 ESV is a little bit smoother. Uh, the HSB is 0:41:03.300 --> 0:41:06.690 right in the middle. And then, uh, what you've got 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.299 is the New Living Translation. I think that's good too, 0:41:09.300 --> 0:41:11.759 but the best translation is the one that you'll read. 0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:14.459 So pick that one, Doug, and go for it. 0:41:14.489 --> 0:41:15.990 Okay. What I was looking for. 0:41:16.020 --> 0:41:16.770 Great. 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:18.750 Okay. The Holman CSB. 0:41:18.780 --> 0:41:21.270 CSB as in boy. 0:41:21.420 --> 0:41:21.720 Okay. 0:41:21.750 --> 0:41:22.680 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 0:41:22.710 --> 0:41:23.400 Great. 0:41:23.430 --> 0:41:27.300 Yeah. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Uh, we're going 0:41:27.330 --> 0:41:31.650 to talk to Marisol in Richland, Michigan, listening on Wndb. 0:41:31.860 --> 0:41:34.920 Welcome to Open Line. How can I help you today? 0:41:36.180 --> 0:41:39.360 Hi. Hi there. How are you? Hi. Long time listeners 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:40.890 since 2011. 0:41:40.890 --> 0:41:41.880 Thank you. 0:41:42.450 --> 0:41:45.060 So my question is, I know that you were on 0:41:45.060 --> 0:41:48.540 Chris Avery. I think I'm pronouncing it correctly a couple 0:41:48.570 --> 0:41:52.110 of weeks ago. Yes. And one of you said, why 0:41:52.140 --> 0:41:57.180 about the 1000 rain? Um, my question is, what is 0:41:57.180 --> 0:41:59.880 the lifespan of the people that are going to be 0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:02.810 living through that period of time. I know that there's 0:42:02.810 --> 0:42:05.330 going to be marriage and children born, but what is 0:42:05.330 --> 0:42:09.050 the lifespan? Does the Bible talk about that? Are people 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:13.219 going to live to 100 200? Like what is the lifespan? 0:42:13.250 --> 0:42:15.319 Here's what the Bible says. I don't know the I 0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:17.330 can't give you a specific answer, but this is what 0:42:17.330 --> 0:42:22.879 the Bible says in Isaiah 6520. It says, during that day, uh, 0:42:22.910 --> 0:42:27.230 a nursing infant will no longer live only a few days, 0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.710 you know, which very often babies would die in the 0:42:30.710 --> 0:42:35.510 ancient world, they still do, but not as commonly. Or 0:42:35.510 --> 0:42:40.370 an old man not live out his days. Indeed, the 0:42:40.370 --> 0:42:44.089 youth will die at 100 years. The word youth there 0:42:44.090 --> 0:42:48.020 is like a teenager, so the comparable to a young 0:42:48.020 --> 0:42:52.790 lad that's 100 years old. And it says the one 0:42:52.790 --> 0:42:58.939 who misses 100 years will be considered cursed. So if 0:42:58.940 --> 0:43:03.200 a person doesn't live to 100 at least. That's like 0:43:03.230 --> 0:43:05.359 you've died young. So. 0:43:05.390 --> 0:43:05.779 Okay. 0:43:05.780 --> 0:43:09.380 Uh, the ages I think, will be much older in 0:43:09.380 --> 0:43:10.400 in the messianic kingdom. 0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:12.170 In the in those times. 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:16.160 Yep. Okay. Okay. So Isaiah six. 0:43:16.190 --> 0:43:19.130 Isaiah 6520 is the verse okay. 0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.399 6520. Perfect. Thank you so much. 0:43:22.430 --> 0:43:22.819 Okay. 0:43:22.820 --> 0:43:26.299 Thanks for calling. Uh, we're going to talk with Catherine 0:43:26.300 --> 0:43:31.400 right now. Uh, listening in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, on the 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.340 Moody Radio app. Welcome to Open Line. How can I 0:43:34.370 --> 0:43:35.029 help you today? 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.410 Oh. Good morning. Thank you for taking my call, doctor Delich. 0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.680 I appreciate you so much. I listen to you, and 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:47.120 I enjoy getting all this knowledge and just loving Jesus more. 0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.570 Thank you. I am a volunteer prayer minister. You know, 0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.750 I just am not a minister. I'm a prayer ministry. 0:43:53.750 --> 0:43:57.440 And like like the other person said, I started this 0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.310 late in life. I was in my 70s. Now I'm 0:44:00.310 --> 0:44:04.000 going to be 80. Um, yeah. And, you know, I 0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.940 just love it so much to be praying with other people. 0:44:06.969 --> 0:44:11.560 The problem is, is that I feel very, um, responsible 0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.200 for what I say and how I pray. And so 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.780 I pray for this this one woman the other day, 0:44:16.810 --> 0:44:22.150 she has two prodigals, and I prayed with her and 0:44:22.150 --> 0:44:24.820 we were speaking, and I said, you know her. She 0:44:24.820 --> 0:44:28.300 is they do have a history with the Lord. They 0:44:28.450 --> 0:44:30.759 she did train up a child in the way he 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.100 should go. And when they are old they will not 0:44:33.100 --> 0:44:36.580 depart from it. I plan on that, that scripture, but 0:44:36.580 --> 0:44:40.000 also I'm thinking about that. His word never comes back void. 0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:43.330 So we're saying that they are saved, but we don't 0:44:43.330 --> 0:44:46.630 know that they're saved. I don't want to hurt anybody 0:44:46.630 --> 0:44:49.930 with anything that I say. How do I speak to 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:55.299 somebody with love to to bring these children back to 0:44:55.330 --> 0:44:56.259 the kingdom? 0:44:56.820 --> 0:44:57.750 Well. 0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.570 First of all, I would try and bring them some comfort. 0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.600 You know, God gave a perfect environment and was a 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:07.319 perfect father. And yet Adam and Eve rebelled. Right. So 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.560 no matter what you do, it's possible for your children 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:14.730 to rebel against what they've been taught. And it doesn't 0:45:14.730 --> 0:45:17.970 make us any. It doesn't make them guilty for what 0:45:17.969 --> 0:45:21.299 their children are doing. The second thing is, sometimes people 0:45:21.300 --> 0:45:23.550 want to write off their kids when they do this. 0:45:24.060 --> 0:45:28.739 I think it's so imperative that we maintain a good relationship. 0:45:28.739 --> 0:45:32.700 I'd encourage them to to keep loving, keep in touch. 0:45:32.730 --> 0:45:39.359 Don't allow this to become a blockage or a barrier 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.720 with their children, and to keep praying for their kids 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.989 every day, but not to be overbearing and beat them 0:45:45.989 --> 0:45:49.049 over the head with the gospel all the time, but 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.719 just maintain it. And then when the time is right, 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:55.080 those kids will come to them and want to know 0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.630 about how to make their way back, or God will 0:45:57.630 --> 0:46:00.239 use a friend someone else in their life to bring 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:00.930 them back. 0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:01.830 Yes. 0:46:02.100 --> 0:46:05.910 The main thing is to keep those lines of communication 0:46:05.910 --> 0:46:08.910 wide open with those kids and pray for. 0:46:08.910 --> 0:46:09.359 Them. 0:46:09.390 --> 0:46:10.350 Okay? 0:46:10.620 --> 0:46:12.720 Hi. Thank you so very much. 0:46:12.750 --> 0:46:16.169 Yeah, thanks for that call. I can't believe it. The 0:46:16.170 --> 0:46:19.290 fastest two hours of the week. That's all for today. Uh, 0:46:19.290 --> 0:46:22.350 we'll be back next week with more of your questions 0:46:22.350 --> 0:46:26.940 right here on Open Line. 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