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S2: Tam Ali, good morning to you. This is Carl and crew.
S2: A quick Carl update. He texted us early this morning
S2: and said he was going to be out of a
S2: connection area. So we were not going to get to
S2: hear from him today. He's traveling in Burundi for a
S2: ministry trip. He's going to be doing a pastor's conference there. Uh,
S2: did he share anything else in that text? Just that
S2: he was going to be out of the area? Yeah.
S3: Pretty much. Yeah, but he hopes to join us tomorrow.
S2: Hopes to join us tomorrow with a pastor from that
S2: area in Burundi. So this is a great opportunity for
S2: him to minister. It's part of his mission. His mission.
S2: I'm trying to remember. He quotes it often to inspire
S2: a spiritual revolution within the church that reaches the world.
S3: Yep. You got it.
S2: That's his personal mission statement.
S4: You know, you spend a lot of time with someone
S4: when you can quote verbatim their spiritual mission statement.
S2: That is wild.
S4: It is wild.
S2: Seven and a half years as co-host of the show
S2: will do that. That is his personal mission and he
S2: lives it out and this is part of it. So
S2: ministering in East Africa, in Burundi, we got to hear
S2: from him yesterday. He sounded awesome. Hopefully to hear from
S2: him again tomorrow on Freedom Friday. Uh, did you have
S2: a childhood hero growing up? Curious? Anyone that you looked
S2: up to wanted to be just like a lot of
S2: times it's in the superhero category, at least for.
S3: Wonder Woman was great. Lynda Carter, she was the original,
S3: I think.
S4: I think Batman, for me was a big one.
S2: Okay.
S4: Why?
S2: Why Batman? I feel like he I don't know, I
S2: feel like of the superheroes.
S4: Yeah. I actually liked him a lot because. Because he
S4: didn't have any superpowers. Oh, he didn't have any superpowers,
S4: but he often won whatever he was doing because he
S4: didn't just rely on being able to fly or or
S4: get shot. Not, you know, not get hurt. He he
S4: had to also outsmart people for when he wasn't strong
S4: enough to beat them.
S2: Well, that goes deep.
S3: And so cool toys.
S4: And he has cool gadgets.
S3: Exactly. Yeah.
S2: Okay. So he didn't have super powers. I mean, he
S2: could fly, right?
S4: No. Uh, he can glide. He had a suit with
S4: a cape that helped him glide, but he couldn't fly.
S4: He had zero superpowers. He was just a normal person
S4: who had a lot of money. Uh, but. But he
S4: learned how to fight, and and for the people, he
S4: wasn't strong enough to beat. He had to be smarter than. Wow.
S4: And I, I really liked that.
S3: Since.
S2: I'm learning new stuff.
S3: Every day.
S4: And a cool car.
S3: Cool.
S2: Well, that's right, I remember the Batmobile.
S4: Batmobile.
S3: Yeah.
S4: Yeah.
S2: I'm trying to think. What. Okay, so Spider-Man has the
S2: little web thing that shoots out of his hands.
S3: He was bit by a spider, which.
S4: And he could climb walls and.
S3: Got into his bloodstream.
S2: What about, um, Superman could fly.
S4: Superman can fly. He can shoot lasers. He's stronger.
S2: Got it. See through wall. Have we covered the main ones?
S4: Spider-Man.
S2: Superman? Batman.
S4: Your biggest ones?
S2: Yeah, you could tell. I do not follow this stuff.
S2: I can see my. You know, my son. He's 12 now.
S2: He wasn't really into superheroes as much as he was
S2: into sports figures.
S4: I feel like usually it's not not every scenario, because
S4: now I like superheroes and I like sports, but I
S4: feel like it's.
S2: Kind of one or the other.
S4: You usually kind of go one or the other. If
S4: you like sports, you're not usually big into superheroes and
S4: vice versa.
S2: Yeah. I mean, he had like a he liked Black
S2: Panther for a little while, but I think it was
S2: just because he thought the, the, the suit was kind
S2: of cool. I don't even think he knew anything. Yeah,
S2: but he was definitely into the sports, the sports heroes. Like,
S2: I want to be like for for a season of
S2: his life. It was just like Russell Westbrook, who played
S2: for the Oklahoma City Thunder. And so every, every day
S2: for like six months, he would only wear, uh, Oklahoma
S2: City Thunder jersey. I think it was number zero. And
S2: then we got him the shorts to match. And then
S2: we had to have multiple jerseys and multiple shorts because
S2: who can do laundry every single day so that you
S2: can repeat this outfit. So then he just had it
S2: in rotation. Then he started collecting the little NBA men.
S2: They made these stuffed dolls that were about half the
S2: size of a teddy bear that looked kind of like
S2: the NBA players. Emphasis on the kinda.
S4: Can only do so much when you're trying to make
S4: a real person stuffed.
S2: Stuffed animal like that. I don't know. The cool thing
S2: was we actually got to go to an Oklahoma City
S2: Thunder game, and he got to meet Russell Westbrook for
S2: like two seconds.
S4: Right right.
S2: Right. But he was only three. And so I'm like
S2: who gets to meet their childhood hero at three. But
S2: then they don't remember it.
S4: That's the.
S2: Worst.
S4: He's got a picture though.
S2: Remember this picture when you got to meet him? You
S2: got too shy to say anything, and now he doesn't
S2: remember that it ever happened. But it's cool when you
S2: have those childhood heroes that you look up to and
S2: you say, I want to be just like this person. Sometimes, though,
S2: you do the opposite and say, you know what? I
S2: know that I don't want to be like that. I'll explain.
S2: Coming up.
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S2: I want to talk today a little bit about the
S2: most wicked king in Israel's history. I have a reason
S2: for doing this, but you got to bear with me
S2: for the the hard stuff before we get to the
S2: to the the to the good stuff. Okay. It's it's
S2: important though. I don't know how much you've heard about
S2: King Manasseh. Did you study him here at Moody Bible Institute?
S2: Do you ever remember studying about King Manasseh?
S4: I don't ever remember studying specifically about him, though.
S2: Well, King Manasseh was 12 years old. 12. Same age
S2: as my son is currently, which is it's that that
S2: alone is going. It's hard to imagine a 12 year
S2: old reigning, but that was not, you know, crazy outside
S2: the norm at the time, but 12 years old when
S2: he began, begins to reign. He reigns for 55 years
S2: in Jerusalem. He did what was evil in the sight
S2: of the Lord. That's the sum of his life. And
S2: that is putting it mildly. Let me tell you a
S2: little bit about some of the things that King Manasseh
S2: did in Judah. He not only adopted the wicked practices
S2: of the nations that the Lord had driven out for Israel,
S2: he actually did even more evil than those evil nations.
S2: So he took their practices, their idolatry, and he took
S2: it up a notch.
S4: Made it worse.
S2: Made it worse. He rebuilt high places. He built wicked altars.
S2: He worshipped, worshiped the hosts of the heavens. He burned
S2: his own son as an offering. He used fortune telling
S2: and omens and mediums and necromancers. This is really, really
S2: dark stuff.
S4: Yeah.
S2: He shed much innocent blood. This is all described in
S2: in Second Kings chapter 21. And the thing that made
S2: this all maybe even worse is because he was the king.
S2: Not only did he practice all of these things, he
S2: led the people into sin. You know, leaders are held
S2: to a higher standard, right? Yes, they are held accountable
S2: for it because people tend to follow their leader. Right.
S2: So his establishment of all of these wicked practices led
S2: Judah into sin. Pretty dark period of time. I set
S2: this up because I want you to think about this statement,
S2: and I'm going to say it two different ways. I
S2: want to see if you can catch the difference. You know,
S2: if there's a little kid running around or maybe a
S2: teenager and someone looks at them with a smile and says, ah,
S2: you're just like your dad. Let me change the voice
S2: a little bit. Think about that same teenager. Someone looks
S2: at them with maybe a slightly different intonation in their voice,
S2: slightly different expression, and says, you're just like your dad.
S2: Catch the difference?
S4: Oh, yeah.
S2: Oh, totally.
S4: It's quite a difference.
S2: Coming up. Let's talk about it.
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S2: I just described A really dark period in Israel's history.
S2: King Manasseh was the most wicked kings. His deeds were
S2: so horrific. So. Flew in the face of everything that
S2: God had instructed them to do. He did the opposite
S2: and then some. He adopted the practices of the wicked
S2: nations that the Lord had driven out for Israel. And
S2: then he took it up a notch. So then he
S2: has a son, Amon, who becomes king. Amon became king,
S2: started his reign at age 22. And I want to
S2: read to you what was said about him in second
S2: Kings 21, verse 21. He walked in all the way
S2: in which his father walked and served the idols that
S2: his father served and worshiped them. In other words, he
S2: was just like his dad.
S4: Yeah.
S2: Just like his dad. The reign of those two kings
S2: combined resulted in ultimately in Israel being taken into captivity
S2: in Babylon. Then Ammon has a son named Josiah. And
S2: Josiah has a decision to make. Will Josiah be just
S2: like his dad? And just like his grandfather, Josiah decides
S2: to go a different way. He was eight years old
S2: when he begins to reign. He reigns for 31 years
S2: in Jerusalem. And Josiah did what was right in the
S2: eyes of the Lord. That's what said of him in
S2: 22 verse two. And it's interesting how the the life
S2: of these kings is usually summed up in, in, in
S2: one sentence, even if other detail is given about them.
S2: Usually it's either that they did what was evil in
S2: the sight of the Lord. They did what was right,
S2: and for Josiah he decided not to be like his
S2: dad and his dad's dad, and he did what was
S2: right in the eyes of the Lord. He walked in
S2: all the ways of David, his father. He did not
S2: turn aside to the right or to the left. During
S2: Josiah's reign, the book of the law is discovered. It
S2: had been either concealed or hidden during Manasseh's reign. So
S2: once it's discovered and is read in Josiah's hearing, he
S2: is horrified. He tears his clothes. He weeps. He's repentant.
S2: He realizes all the ways that the nation has gone astray. Yeah.
S2: How far they are from what God has called them
S2: to do. And so he gathers the elders of Judah
S2: and Jerusalem, and they make a covenant before the Lord
S2: to keep the testimonies and the statutes of God with
S2: all of his heart and his soul. Then he immediately
S2: sets out to root out and remove all of the
S2: wicked practices of his father and his grandfather, and to
S2: re-establish proper worship in Israel. Ultimately, Israel was still taken
S2: into captivity in Babylon. Uh, Josiah didn't live to see
S2: those years. He was in God's mercy. He was spared
S2: because he was repentant. But when you think about your
S2: family of origin. You usually have to go one of
S2: two ways. Every single person. We talked a lot about
S2: this last week. Being raised in a Christian family does
S2: not make you a Christian. So every single person has
S2: to decide for themselves. Every single person will stand before
S2: God for themselves. But it is true that a lot
S2: of times you have to look at your family. Sometimes
S2: it's your dad specifically, sometimes it's just your family in
S2: general and say, I'm going to go the way of
S2: my family and sometimes that means continuing on with generations
S2: of dysfunction, with cycles of sin that have perpetuated from
S2: grandfather to father and on down. You know, I remember
S2: my husband had a friend back in his basketball playing days,
S2: and this friend was, you know, he was a he
S2: was a nice guy, you know, he was generous. He was,
S2: you know, like, had a great personality. But he really,
S2: really struggled to be faithful. He had affairs at least one,
S2: but likely many more. I loved his wife. She was
S2: a friend. He was not a good husband. He just wasn't.
S2: He was a nice guy. I think he was even
S2: a decent dad. But he was a pretty bad husband.
S2: He couldn't be faithful. And I remember him saying like,
S2: this is what I know how to do. Like, this
S2: is what my dad did. Like, wow.
S4: Yeah.
S2: He just kind of knew to go.
S5: And it's painful on so many levels.
S2: Yeah. Go out and and just get women to just
S2: kind of keep it real. Yeah. That's the cycle that
S2: had been perpetuated in his family. And he just kind
S2: of continued down that path. And so I'm curious this
S2: morning what that looks like in your own life. Did
S2: you decide to go the way of your family, or
S2: did you have to make a break where you said,
S2: like Josiah, no more? The my family's history cycles of
S2: sin and dysfunction? As for me and my house, we
S2: will serve the Lord. I think I'm going to open
S2: the phone lines on this one. If you have a
S2: story that you want to share? Obviously not asking you
S2: to give details or to dishonor your family in any way,
S2: but if part of your journey of walking with the
S2: Lord meant that you had to in a certain way,
S2: like Josiah, decide that you were going to go a
S2: different path than your family. Give us a call 805
S2: 55 7898 805 55, 7898. This is a tough one
S2: because I know sometimes those family relationships can be complicated,
S2: but ultimately what our family does or not, we're called
S2: to serve the Lord.
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S2: Sometimes walking with Jesus requires you to break family cycles
S2: of sin and dysfunction. It requires you to go a
S2: different way than your family has gone. What does that
S2: look like for you? 805 55 7898. Let's go to
S2: JP calling in this morning from Ohio. Tell us you
S2: had to break some family cycles to walk with the Lord.
S2: Go ahead.
S6: Yeah. Um, I, uh, in my family, um, growing up, um,
S6: generational curse, uh, reigned in the in the form of
S6: adultery in my family, um, as far back as my
S6: great grandfather and all these stories we were told to me,
S6: you know, as I got older, but, um, and it
S6: it really found itself to be true in myself because,
S6: I mean, I became promiscuous very young age. Um, having
S6: women in your life or, you know, conquering, I guess.
S6: What is the word that was used back in that day? Um,
S6: really held or held on to held. Had a grip
S6: on me, um, to the point where, um, in my marriage,
S6: I had committed adultery early on, um, in the midst
S6: of being saved, um, a couple years into it. Um,
S6: I confess that sin to my wife and God redeemed it. Um,
S6: and literally, you know, I've been married now at the
S6: end of this month for 21 years. And so it's
S6: it's something that if we don't deal with as, as
S6: men and break those curses in our family, it's something
S6: that can that can reign on us for our whole lives.
S2: J.P. from Ohio, thank you so much for your call
S2: this morning. Uh, what about you? What does this look
S2: like in your own life? You, Josiah, had to put
S2: aside the practices of his dad and his grandpa. They
S2: they were wicked, wicked kings. They did what was evil
S2: in the sight of the Lord. Josiah went a different way.
S2: He did what was right in the eyes of the Lord.
S2: Did you have to do that? To do what was
S2: right in the eyes of the Lord? You had to
S2: break the cycle of sin and dysfunction that perpetuated in
S2: your family. You had to go a different way than
S2: your family had gone. 800 555 7898 (800) 555-7898. And a quick,
S2: quick sub point. Just because our previous caller mentioned this,
S2: I don't want to get into this at length. I
S2: don't feel personally at the moment studied up or qualified
S2: to go into this at length, but I did want
S2: to make a comment about generational curses. Um, you know,
S2: a lot of times there's a there's definitely a passage
S2: of Scripture that's often referred to. But I want to
S2: be clear on, on one thing, that we should not
S2: view generational curses as something that's irreversible, that because that
S2: this has been a pattern in my family, um, it's irreversible.
S2: And I will I will follow the same path because
S2: it's what's been set out for me and I have
S2: no choice in it. Um, and so I just want
S2: to I just want to be clear on that, that
S2: every individual is responsible for their own choices 100%. What
S2: we absolutely often see in families is that there are
S2: generational cycles, to be sure, that there are patterns that
S2: are established, that are set out for generations. The previous
S2: caller mentioned adultery. There had been a pattern of that
S2: over a long period of time. And and so just
S2: like anything else, when that's what you see, that's what's modeled,
S2: that's what's presented, that's what's normal. Does it become much
S2: more likely that are you much more predisposed to falling
S2: into that yourself? Absolutely. But generational curses should not be
S2: viewed as something that are irreversible. Just wanted to throw
S2: that in. Definitely something we can wait a little bit
S2: more deeper into at another time, but threw that in
S2: as a setting yesterday. I'll say it again today. A
S2: green stamp bonus didn't cost you a thing. Had a
S2: pastor who used to say that every time he threw
S2: in anything that was off topic from his sermon. I
S2: love it. Say that was a green stamp bonus. Didn't
S2: cost you a thing. Take a couple more of your
S2: calls here. To follow God wholeheartedly meant you had to
S2: go a different way than your family had gone. It
S2: could be your father or your direct line, but could
S2: have just been in general. Your family all decided to
S2: go here and boy, you had to break break ties
S2: there and go a different direction. 805 55 7898 805
S2: 55 7898.
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S2: You're listening to Carl and crew here on Moody Radio.
S2: I'm Ali taking your calls this morning on this topic.
S2: For you. Following Jesus meant you had to go a
S2: different way than the rest of your family. 800 555
S2: 7898 we'll take more of your calls. 805, 55, 78, 98.
S2: Coming up, I want to take you back a couple years.
S2: I went to a family funeral and someone got up
S2: and shared something that almost took my breath away. We
S2: were celebrating the life of my first cousin. I was
S2: not expecting this person to say this. I'll share it
S2: with you. Coming up.
S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: You know, we see in the life of King Josiah,
S2: his life was could be summed up in one verse
S2: that he did what was right in the eyes of
S2: the Lord. And the reason why that was so significant
S2: was because to do right in the eyes of the
S2: Lord meant he was going to have to put aside
S2: the wicked ways of his father, Ammon and his grandfather Manasseh.
S2: Manasseh was the most wicked king, and he did the unthinkable,
S2: the unspeakable in a lot of ways. And then his
S2: son Ammon followed right in dad's footsteps. But Josiah followed God.
S2: He did what was right in the eyes of the Lord.
S2: And I started thinking about what this looks like. And
S2: I'm not saying that your family is is is the
S2: most wicked like King Manasseh, but there's certainly a principle
S2: in play here that sometimes following God requires you to
S2: to put aside cycles of sin and dysfunction from your
S2: family of origin. And this is, you know, I went
S2: to a funeral a couple years ago for one of
S2: my cousins who had passed away, and he was, you know,
S2: he was probably in his maybe late 40s, early 50s
S2: when he passed. And he had had such a difficult life, really,
S2: from his earliest days. He had had so much hardship.
S2: And one of the people who got up and spoke, um,
S2: at the funeral was a it was kind of a
S2: who had he had been sort of a father figure
S2: to my cousin. I didn't know him. I kind of
S2: saw him for the first time when he got up
S2: and he spoke, but what he said really surprised me is,
S2: you know, I knew my cousin had struggled with some
S2: addiction issues and some just some life stuff. And he
S2: got up this, this man, and he shared with great remorse.
S2: And he actually quoted a scripture. He quoted Proverbs 22
S2: six which says, train up a child in the way
S2: he should go when he is old. He will not
S2: depart from it. And he shared that verse and he said,
S2: you know what? This young man, I won't say his name.
S2: He goes, he was he was trained up to do
S2: what I did. And he shared with great remorse how,
S2: you know, the, the addiction issues, the things that were
S2: kind of modeled in front of him or kind of
S2: the ways that he was trained up in. And so
S2: this man shared with great remorse, kind of the responsibility.
S2: He felt that my cousin had gone that same path and,
S2: you know, it was it was a really it was
S2: a poignant moment because he the great thing is that
S2: my cousin in the in his later years, he came
S2: to know the Lord. That's awesome. And you know, I
S2: remember I got to see him probably within a couple
S2: months before he passed. And he was he was had
S2: so much joy, and it was so encouraging to see
S2: that he was doing so well. Yes, yes. Um, so
S2: his life ended way too short, but it ended well.
S2: He was he finished strong in the Lord, despite how
S2: things had started and how things had gone for much
S2: of his life. You know, I think about that sometimes
S2: how he went the way of what he had saw,
S2: what he had seen. So much of that shaped the
S2: life that he ended up living. But God but God intervened.
S2: God was merciful. Has that been your story that you
S2: had to break ties with the ways of your family?
S2: Maybe in a way that feels extreme and significant, and
S2: there actually had to be a physical break in the relationship,
S2: maybe in subtle ways where you realize that I just
S2: I can't follow that because following God requires me to
S2: do something different. 800 555 7898 let's go to John
S2: calling in this morning from Indiana. What did you have
S2: to do? Following God required you to to to break tradition,
S2: break sin cycles. Dysfunction. What did that look like?
S7: Um, well, my family definitely didn't follow Jesus at all. Um,
S7: my father was a drunk, and I one day hit
S7: my knees and asked Jesus what I was doing or
S7: what I needed to do. Told me to find a
S7: church home. I did that, and now I'm in a
S7: worship team that travels, bringing Jesus's word to everybody. My
S7: granddaughter's following me. She gets up and sings with me.
S7: And I couldn't be happier that I found Jesus.
S2: Oh, John. Awesome. Thank you so much for your call
S2: from Indiana this morning. Let's get another one in. David
S2: from Michigan. David. Tell me your story.
S8: In the early 90s, I was dropped off at the
S8: mental hospital. And that began a lifelong process of, um,
S8: diagnosis and, uh, labels and government assistance. And as I
S8: grew older, um, about 13 years ago, God had called
S8: me out of that lifestyle. As a young adult, it's
S8: not easy to get in conversations with senior citizens around getting, uh,
S8: you know, Social Security and disability benefits. But God had
S8: called me to something greater, you know, and I found
S8: inspiration in that story of the man that Jesus met
S8: in the caves who there was legion in him. But
S8: he was also crying out as a man saying, I
S8: want to be healed. So I stepped into that. That
S8: new season God had for me. And it was really
S8: hard because, you know, once I was off the medications,
S8: the assistance was addicting. And that was the pattern prevalent
S8: in my family and generations before me and with with
S8: the assistance comes in in activity. And you don't understand
S8: what your dreams are. And so I've stepped out of that. And,
S8: you know, the church helped ministries around me, helped, and
S8: I've been healed in the name of Jesus. And God
S8: gave me a faith bigger than I thought I could
S8: ever have. And so I just pray for my family
S8: that they would also step out into that faith that
S8: God has.
S2: David, thank you so much for your call this morning
S2: from Michigan. Uh. Powerful stuff. What about you? Have you
S2: experienced this? Where walking with the Lord meant that you
S2: had to go a different way than your family? 805,
S2: 55 7898 855 578 98.
S1: A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is
S1: in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: We are messengers. God be the glory. You know, God
S2: in his mercy allows us to see the truth. We
S2: can only love him because he first loved us. So
S2: when we share these stories, you know, it's each person
S2: it's been with great humility that God has allowed them
S2: to see where, despite what they were raised in, despite
S2: maybe what they saw, the Lord allowed them to see
S2: the truth and to break the cycles maybe that they
S2: saw growing up. Let's go to Bethany. First time caller
S2: from Michigan. Um. To follow Jesus. What did you have
S2: to break free from? That was in your family?
S9: Yeah. So at first, it was breaking free from the
S9: religion that I was born into. Um, but then after that,
S9: it was a pattern of depression and suicide and pills and, um,
S9: the ways of the world. And after my dad took
S9: his life, the Lord showed me that I have two
S9: fathers and one is an earthly father who failed me
S9: and or failed me, and that I that suicide could
S9: have given me my identity. And it definitely brought shame
S9: and stigma. But instead, the Lord showed me that before
S9: that he also willingly hung to his death. And so
S9: for two fathers to willingly, willingly hang to their death.
S9: But the first one brought freedom and forgiveness for what
S9: was to come. And so to choose the freedom and
S9: the forgiveness and to choose Jesus is something that I,
S9: I could not turn from, and I never will, because
S9: he is perfect and will never leave me or forsake me.
S2: Bethany, thank you so much. First time caller, uh, from Michigan.
S2: You know, when we think about the cross of Jesus
S2: Christ and the victory that we have over death itself,
S2: over sin, over any sort of generational pattern because of
S2: Jesus Christ as Bethany just captured so well. We can
S2: walk in freedom because of our Heavenly Father. We can
S2: live free today, says Katie Nicole.
S1: You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't
S1: take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.
S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: Well, if you can think back to when you first
S2: started working and you got that first paycheck.
S4: Oh, so good.
S2: Part of you felt like, wow. Freedom. Yes. But then
S2: you start really studying it. And you notice for the
S2: first time, you know where I'm going with this? Yes.
S2: I thought they told me I was making 875 an hour. Yeah. Why?
S2: Like my son last month. Wait. All of a sudden
S2: you realize that? Quite a bit is taken from you
S2: before it ever hits your account.
S4: Yeah.
S2: And you don't realize that?
S4: No. No one really tells you.
S2: One really tells you that what you're making isn't really
S2: what you're making. Correct. Because there's this little thing that's
S2: called taxes.
S4: Paying your debt to society.
S2: Come on. They tell you, but then.
S5: When you look at it like, oh, okay.
S4: It's like your HOA fee for living in America.
S2: And it's such a funny thing because every parent will
S2: look at their child when they do that, or their
S2: young adult and kind of chuckle like, yep, welcome to adulthood.
S4: Oh, it's the worst.
S2: There's this expression that's out there. It's been out there
S2: for a while, but adulting, which I think is kind
S2: of kind of a funny use of the word.
S4: Absolutely.
S2: I don't I don't remember it being a thing when
S2: I was a kid, but I definitely hear many more
S2: people talk about adulting.
S4: Absolutely.
S2: Like, um, you know, and it's sometimes used as, like
S2: a hashtag or kind of a, like a funny exclamation
S2: point on things like, uh, had to pay for a
S2: broken dishwasher today. Hashtag adulting.
S5: Yeah. Car repairs, hashtag adulting.
S4: Can I tell you a story?
S2: Uh, always.
S4: This is where adulting got me a little bit, so I.
S4: I moved into an apartment that was going to be mine.
S4: And my wife's just, like, a week or two before
S4: we got married. So I went in there, and I
S4: lived there by myself, and I'm living there. Everything's great.
S4: And this we got married at the end of December,
S4: and then we went on a honeymoon kind of right
S4: there into the beginning of January. If you don't know,
S4: checks are due at the first of each month typically.
S4: Typically I thought, well, I'm I'm going on my honeymoon,
S4: so I'll just pay it when I get back. And
S4: I got back like on the 7th of January, I think.
S4: And and I, we get home, we're chilling. I pull
S4: up my laptop and I'm looking. I have an email
S4: from the the renters company and they're like, ah, you
S4: need to you need to pay. Because I hadn't paid
S4: them anything yet. This would be my first my first
S4: check of rent. And they're not getting it from me.
S4: And now I'm a week behind and I'm like, oh,
S4: I'm so sorry.
S2: But I was on my.
S4: I was on my honeymoon. I figured I'd just pay
S4: it when I got back. That you can't do that
S4: when it's due. It's due. And I don't know why
S4: I didn't think of that.
S2: Oh, that's so funny. No, because you think. Well, of
S2: course I'm on my honeymoon. I'm sure everybody will understand.
S4: Yes. I can't, I can't pay it on the first.
S4: I'm not here on the first.
S2: I can't I can't do this right.
S5: Yay!
S2: Coming up, if you are the parent of a young adult,
S2: you may have noticed. Man, there seems like they're having
S2: a tough time easing into this whole adulting thing. Thing.
S2: Some of the things that I feel like I was
S2: doing at their age, they don't seem to be getting
S2: there quite as quickly. Yeah, that's a thing. You're not alone.
S2: It's not a bad thing, though. Coming up, we've got
S2: a special guest who's going to talk about how to
S2: help young adults live fruitfully, insanely fruitful. Part of the
S2: title of a book he has out. It's going to
S2: be advice for the young adult, but also the advice
S2: if you are the parent kind of sitting on your
S2: hands a little bit going, how do I help here?
S2: I don't want to say too much, but it seems
S2: like they're stuck a little bit.
S1: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.
S1: Super di is in the crew. It's curling crew on
S1: Moody Radio.
S2: Well, there used to be a pretty expected, predictable path
S2: that was followed. You went to high school and then
S2: maybe did a trade school, maybe some college and then
S2: early 20s. You got married, maybe started a family. and
S2: that was just kind of what people did. Well, this
S2: generation of young adults is taking longer to meet some
S2: of those markers, reach financial independence, live on their own,
S2: get married, start a family. And that can cause some tension,
S2: both for the parents of young adults, but also for
S2: the young adult themselves who feel unprepared, who feel stuck,
S2: who feel like they're not making the kind of progress
S2: they were hoping they'd make. We've got a special guest
S2: joining us right now who's got a keen interest in
S2: this topic, David Stevens. He's a pastor, speaker, a coach
S2: with nearly 20 years of experience leading and discipling young adults.
S2: What have you noticed with these young adults that maybe
S2: differs from previous generations?
S10: You know, I've noticed that the young adults today, from
S10: my experience working with them, are dealing with a lot
S10: of insecurity and a lot of comparison. You know, with
S10: social media, there's so many different people that they can
S10: look online and have this expectation that their life is
S10: supposed to look like something, that they don't know how
S10: to get there. You know, it's supposed to look like
S10: something different than what it is. So I think that
S10: that plays into how this generation is looking at things differently.
S10: There's a lot more for sure, but that's a huge one.
S2: And, you know, it's tempting for parents, for other adults
S2: to look at things like social media and say, well,
S2: this these young people are they're more distracted. They're not focused.
S2: They can't seem to get it together. And you actually
S2: wrote a book called Getting It Together That insecurity. Speak
S2: a little bit more to that. So many adults, young
S2: adults feel like they aren't really prepared to kind of
S2: make the transition to adulting.
S10: I think that a lot of young adults are finding
S10: themselves in a really complicated world, and they're looking for,
S10: you know, some things that are like, man, how do
S10: I know that I'm on the right track? I think
S10: as I talk to young adults, there's a real fear,
S10: a fear that they're going to be alone, a fear
S10: that they're going to miss out on maybe what God
S10: has called them to. Uh, a fear that they're going
S10: to miss their purpose in life. And so they they're
S10: wanting what what do I do? How do I how
S10: do I make this work? How do I take the
S10: things that are the basics and implement them? And so,
S10: you know, that's why I wrote this. I tried to
S10: provide a framework. I tried to provide a foundation platform
S10: of really practical, hands on things where these young adults
S10: can can learn some of the key lessons in life
S10: that are going to make them feel confident to do
S10: what God has called them to do.
S2: So let's talk specifically about relationships, because that's one of
S2: the key things that you tackle. What is today's young
S2: adult need to know to live fruitfully in terms of
S2: their relationships.
S10: When it comes to relationships? First of all, it's kind
S10: of the the foundation of of our life. Um, your
S10: relationship with your with your parents, your relationship with your friends.
S10: and everybody has a deep longing for that. And so
S10: I think that when it comes to living a fruitful life,
S10: if your relationships are off kilter, if they are not
S10: what God has ordained, meaning, if you're not living according
S10: to the biblical principles that God has set out, your
S10: life is going to be empty. It's going to be
S10: filled with frustration and brokenness. And so I think that,
S10: you know, having healthy relationships is really a core piece
S10: of living a life of joy and fulfillment.
S2: Now, many, many young adults struggle to connect with God.
S2: I mean, some of it is the distraction of social media.
S2: I mean, there's never been more tools available in terms
S2: of podcasts and blogs and devotionals. Um, but how do
S2: you coach the young adults that you work with who
S2: are feel stuck in their relationship with God?
S10: I think that there's so much insecurity when it comes
S10: to approaching your relationship with God. For young adults, they're
S10: feeling like they're doing it wrong. But what I try
S10: to encourage them to do is, you know, just keep
S10: showing up. One of the things that that we oftentimes
S10: think is, well, I'm not doing it right. Or, you know,
S10: when I came to read my Bible, I got so distracted,
S10: I ended up being on my phone. You know, maybe
S10: I was there for 20 minutes and 15 of those minutes.
S10: I was thinking about the conversation I had yesterday or,
S10: you know, the what I got to do at work.
S10: And so what I encourage people to do is I say, hey,
S10: you know, spending time with God sometimes it's it's like
S10: a workout. You know, when I go to the gym,
S10: I know is I lift those weights, I'm not expecting
S10: to lift the amount of weight that I want to lift. Eventually.
S10: I know that I have to start at one place
S10: and work my way up. And I think that with
S10: your walk with God, if you just keep showing up,
S10: if you just keep believing that God is there, even
S10: if you don't feel like he's there, eventually you're going
S10: to start to walk into a new level of maturity.
S10: And every time that you show up, you win. And
S10: that's what I tell people. Just keep showing up, keep praying,
S10: keep reading your word. Keep doing the things that you
S10: know you're supposed to.
S2: Now, have you noticed any sort of difference here along
S2: the lines of gender? Uh, do young men seem to
S2: be struggling more than young women, or are you seeing
S2: it with both?
S10: It's with both. But if I had to say one
S10: or the other, I would say that young men are
S10: struggling more. And I think that that's because young men
S10: are pulled in so many different directions. And in a
S10: lot of ways, young men today are just being told
S10: that they're really messing everything up. Yeah. And so I
S10: think that our young men, they're also being told that
S10: they have to do things a certain way where that
S10: might not be their strength. And so, you know, they're
S10: feeling really beat up and really insecure. You know, I
S10: was talking to a young adult, he's like 18 years old.
S10: He said to me, he said, man, I just feel
S10: so behind.
S2: Oh, wow.
S10: And I said, how can an 18 year old feel
S10: so behind. But I think there's been so many messages
S10: given to young adults, especially young men, saying you're not
S10: doing it right and you should be farther along. And
S10: so all of these fears just are constantly plaguing young
S10: adults where they're feeling like I'm not doing things right.
S10: I'm missing out on what I should know. And they're
S10: feeling like everyone else is doing it right, because there's
S10: this fake image on social media that they're constantly being fed.
S10: So it really takes faith to say, you know what,
S10: I'm going to sow the seeds. Mall today so that
S10: I can reap the fruit tomorrow.
S2: How can the church help in this? I mean, I
S2: know a big part of your background is working in
S2: the church. You've been a pastor. You've worked in the
S2: young adult ministry. What is the church doing right, in
S2: terms of helping young adults? And where are maybe we
S2: are we missing it?
S10: I think where churches are really winning is when churches
S10: are teaching young adults the word when they're learning how
S10: to actually study their Bibles. I mean, you can't you
S10: can't go wrong with that. And that is the core
S10: of how to live a godly life. I think an
S10: area where the church could do better, at least in
S10: my experience, is the older training and discipling the younger.
S2: Yes.
S10: And and I think that what happens is the older people,
S10: they're afraid to do that. And maybe they feel like
S10: they're unequipped to do that. But what I found is that,
S10: you know what? The dinner table is a fantastic discipleship tool.
S10: You don't have to have a a Bible degree. You
S10: don't have to be a perfect dad or mom. You
S10: don't have to, you know, have it all together. You
S10: just have to be a step ahead and be able
S10: to love on the young adults in your life. And
S10: I think that you'd be surprised the kinds of questions
S10: that young adults are asking. It's things that you've experienced that,
S10: that you've often been through, and you're just going to
S10: give them what you know to be true and what
S10: the Bible says about it. And really, that's what they're
S10: looking for.
S2: David Stephens, our guest right now is pastor, speaker coach.
S2: He's author of a book called Getting It Together Ten
S2: Lessons to Help Young Adults Live an Insanely Fruitful Life.
S2: You know, many parents listening right now with young adult children,
S2: and they're toggling back between maybe a sense of frustration
S2: with their young adult child who's not quite where they
S2: thought they would be, or maybe even some shame or disappointment,
S2: but wanting to still love that child? Well. What advice
S2: would you give to the parent of a young adult
S2: child who's kind of stuck and struggling? What can they
S2: do to help?
S10: You know, the first thing that I would say to
S10: those parents is give yourself some grace. Nobody's a perfect
S10: parent and nobody does it. All right? I'm a parent.
S10: I've got five kids. My my kids are not young
S10: adults yet, but I just know I'm going to be
S10: running into this. And you're going to miss things. You're
S10: not going to do everything right, and you're going to
S10: continue to learn as you parent. And I think as
S10: you're going into this season where you've got a young
S10: adult maybe is struggling, maybe feels like they're not prepared
S10: for life, well, don't take that personally. And I also
S10: would say when you have a young adult, really, this
S10: is the season to release. I think that a lot
S10: of times parents actually, what oftentimes happen is they give
S10: way too much freedom to their kids when they're young.
S10: And then as they get older, they see the direction,
S10: and they don't like some of the directions that their
S10: kids go. And so they try to compensate and control
S10: as they get older. And so what often happens is
S10: we feel like, well, I, I didn't do what I
S10: was supposed to back here, so let me try to
S10: fix it as they're older. But but really, what you've
S10: got to do is you got to trust that God
S10: is their parent as well, and you have to be
S10: able to release young adults to make their own mistakes.
S10: Don't try to take all of the consequences of bad
S10: decisions away. Let them experience the consequences of bad decisions
S10: and release them to do what God has called them
S10: to do. It might not look exactly what you thought
S10: it would, and that's okay. You've got to let them
S10: now live the life that they're called to live.
S2: Great encouragement for parents, especially coming up on Father's Day
S2: this weekend. Guest. David Stevens. He's got a book getting
S2: It Together ten Lessons to Help Young Adults Live an
S2: Insanely Fruitful Life. If you want more, just text fruitful
S2: to 855 five 7898. Fruitful to 855 five 7898.
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S1: curl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: Has your little girl started talking. Any any discernible words yet?
S4: Yeah, a little bit. Uh. She does. Mama and dada. Oh, she.
S2: With purpose?
S4: Yeah. With purpose. Okay. Uh. She does. Uh. Oh.
S5: Yeah. Well, that's the best one. With purpose.
S4: With purpose? Sometimes. The first time I caught it on camera,
S4: she was sitting in her high chair, and she was
S4: hanging her milk bottle over the side and was looking
S4: at me and going, uh oh. And I said, you
S4: can't say you haven't dropped it yet. And then she
S4: dropped it and went, uh oh. And, uh.
S5: Told.
S2: Me to drop.
S5: It.
S4: And now just recently she got bubble. She got. So
S4: when she wants us to blow bubbles outside or inside,
S4: she'll she'll say, bubble, bubble, bubble, bubble.
S5: Oh.
S2: I'm I, I look forward for you to the day
S2: when you and your daughter.
S5: Yeah.
S2: Have, like, real conversations.
S5: Oh, I know. Yeah.
S2: And she starts asking you questions about life.
S4: It's going to be so much fun.
S5: Why? Why? She starts Asking you with y y.
S2: You know, I'm I'm a little bit ahead of you.
S2: My daughter is almost 16, and I hear the conversations
S2: that she has with her dad lately involve usually the
S2: purchase of clothing from Hollister or Lululemon.
S5: Yeah.
S2: Dad, can I have money?
S5: And dad's going y.
S4: I can't wait for that.
S5: So now dad's become fewer words. Can we.
S2: Go to Back to.
S5: Bubble? Yeah. That's awesome.
S2: There's something special about that dad daughter relationship. Coming up,
S2: we've got a special guest who's got some coaching dad's struggles.
S2: Sometimes with the conversation. Yeah, it gets complicated. And your
S2: daughter has questions and lots of words and stories. And
S2: you want to connect with her whether she's 8 or 18.
S2: Our special guest is going to help you with that.
S1: You're listening to Curl and Crew on Moody Radio.
S2: Well, we've got Father's Day coming up. Quick reminder Father's
S2: Day on Sunday. You know when you when you picture
S2: a dad, sometimes you picture a dad out throwing a ball,
S2: playing basketball or playing catch. Sometimes, though, it can be
S2: more of a struggle for a dad to connect with
S2: his daughter. Want to introduce you to Doctor Michelle Watson Canfield,
S2: our guest this morning. You have devoted much of your
S2: ministry to helping dads and daughters connect, which is a
S2: very a very unique and specific kind of niche that
S2: you've come upon. How did it get started? Why did
S2: this become something that you were so interested in helping
S2: dads and daughters?
S11: I am the oldest of four daughters, so that's the
S11: first layer. And then secondly, I have been mentoring, I
S11: would say teenagers and 20 something since I was 19
S11: and I'm now 63. So do the math. A long
S11: time that I would say really having a finger on
S11: the pulse of things that daughters are saying and needing.
S11: And then I have been a licensed clinical professional counselor since,
S11: oh my goodness, the 90s. So I've been doing that
S11: almost three decades. And so what I would say is
S11: being in the trenches with women, with girls that so
S11: often are saying, I want more from my dad. And
S11: I find that dads sometimes say, well, I don't even
S11: know what you need. Tell me. And daughters are like,
S11: I don't know how to tell you. And then I
S11: just am all about helping equip dads to dial into
S11: their daughters hearts.
S2: Is it too much of a generalization to say that
S2: dads maybe struggle more to connect with their daughters than
S2: they do to their sons? Is that too, too broad brush,
S2: or is that what you've seen to be true?
S11: Oh, I've definitely seen that to be true. Especially as
S11: daughters are growing older and become two things become more
S11: emotional and more verbal. And oftentimes that's where dads will
S11: step back. They'll think that it's wisdom to say, here, mom,
S11: you go in, you're a girl. You understand girls. But
S11: I'm telling you, dads, your daughters need you even more
S11: during those phases of their development because their identity is
S11: being shaped as they hear from you and look at
S11: you for feedback. Telling them that they're beautiful, just the
S11: way they look, that they're made in the image of God,
S11: and he has a purpose and a design for them,
S11: even if they're getting other messages outside your home.
S2: What are the real benefits for a young woman from
S2: having that strong relationship with her dad?
S12: Well, the.
S11: Overarching answer is every area of your daughter's life. Dad
S11: will be better if she feels connected to you. And
S11: we look at Scripture where God says in Malachi four
S11: six again in Luke 117 that that going back to
S11: this idea of a heart turning, God says, if the
S11: hearts of fathers don't turn, he doesn't say, the head's right.
S11: He says, the hearts. If the hearts of fathers don't
S11: turn to their children and children to their fathers, I'll
S11: come and strike the land with a curse. And I
S11: don't think we have to look very far, do we,
S11: to see the effects of the curse. So back to
S11: this idea of what benefits are there to a daughter
S11: when her father's heart is turned toward her and she
S11: feels connected? She'll get better grades in school. She's more
S11: likely to finish high school and attend college. She'll have
S11: less body dissatisfaction and healthier weight. She'll have greater self-esteem.
S11: Dads love this one. She'll delay her sexual debut. And
S11: on and on it goes. But your daughter will be
S11: healthier and stronger and more confident when she feels connected
S11: to you as her dad.
S2: What are the most common mistakes that you see dads make?
S2: Because I know that there are lots of Christian fathers
S2: listening and they have the really great intentions. It's not
S2: that they don't want to connect with their daughter. Where's
S2: the biggest area where dads tend to miss the boat
S2: on it?
S12: I would say probably.
S11: The first thing is, is they run out of energy
S11: to keep listening.
S2: Until she's.
S11: Done.
S2: You know, I have to laugh because I have a daughter.
S2: And one thing that my husband will. He will often
S2: say that sometimes it gets challenging for him to continue
S2: to listen, and he he does start to wear out
S2: a little bit. So I have to laugh because I
S2: didn't realize that that was a thing.
S12: Yes, it's a thing. Which is funny.
S11: Because my my second book called You know, Let's Talk
S11: Conversation Starters for Dads and Daughters. And my husband said,
S11: I really could have called it let's Talk and Listen,
S11: because it's so hard for dads to keep listening because
S11: they're like, get to the point already. Like, this.
S12: Is.
S11: And I'm saying, dad, just know that we as women
S11: figure things out by talking. We don't often know what
S11: we want to say until we say it. And so
S11: by you giving your daughter the gift of your attention,
S11: leaning in, putting down the remote, turning your ringer off,
S11: putting your phone away and leaning in to listen, nodding
S11: your head. Active. Listening. Your daughter is internalizing a message
S11: that they have value, and your daughter will come to
S11: internalize that perspective, that she's worthy of your time, worthy
S11: of your attention, worthy of being listened to because her
S11: voice matters, and you want her voice out in the
S11: world to have impact. And it can start with you, dad.
S2: Doctor Michelle Watson Canfield, our guest, licensed professional counselor, national speaker,
S2: and author. Coming up, let's get some practical help for dads.
S2: And maybe we'll throw grandpa's in there as well. You
S2: want to connect with your daughter? What are some practical
S2: tools that you can use today to get the conversation
S2: going or restart it if maybe it's gone quiet? More
S2: coming up.
S1: Your shot of hope to help you through the day.
S1: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: We are headed towards Father's Day and we've got some
S2: help for dads who want to make a deeper, more
S2: profound impact in connection with their daughters. Our guest, Doctor
S2: Michelle Watson Canfield, a licensed professional counselor national speaker, author
S2: of Let's Talk Conversation Starters for Dads and Daughters. Let's
S2: get practical. What's something that a dad? One thing that
S2: a dad listening or even a grandpa listening today can
S2: do to connect with their daughter or their granddaughter?
S11: You are a woman after my own heart, Allie. Because
S11: you and I are like, we. We don't just want talk.
S11: We want action. Right? And so we're we're like, dad,
S11: don't just tell me you love me. Show me you
S11: love me. And so, dad, I have so many practical
S11: action steps up my sleeve. That's what I talk about
S11: on the Dad Whisperer podcast is dads are like, here's
S11: an action step. So, dad, go out today. Either open
S11: your drawer or go to the store and buy a
S11: dry erase marker and a package of sticky notes. And
S11: what I want you to commit to is by the
S11: end of today, I want you to write a message,
S11: a loving message and affirming message. A validating message on
S11: your daughter's mirror of her bedroom or her bathroom. Her
S11: car mirror. And if you don't live somewhere where your
S11: daughter's at, you can do it on your mirror. Take
S11: a picture and send it to her or put it
S11: on sticky notes. You can just say, I love you.
S11: I'm praying for you. I'm so glad to be your dad.
S11: You are one of a kind. You're beautiful to me.
S11: Put that on notes on your daughter's mirror. Because when
S11: we look in the mirror as women, we see every flaw.
S11: And you don't. So imagine the power of your message,
S11: your voice, your truth, countering what she hears in her
S11: head as she looks in her mirror. What do you think? Ali?
S11: Do you think that would make a difference?
S2: I think that would absolutely make a difference. Now, obviously
S2: the best time to start with this is when you're
S2: when your girls are really young. And so for the
S2: dad of a, you know, of a toddler who gets
S2: to go into it armed with this kind of information.
S2: But what about the dad whose kids are much older,
S2: and maybe there's a teen daughter, even an adult daughter,
S2: and they're going, I wish I would have heard this earlier.
S2: Is it too late?
S11: No, it's never too late, dad. Never too late. And again,
S11: having been in really, I would say sacred space with
S11: women for over four decades, I've never one time had
S11: any teenager or young woman or older woman say it
S11: was too late. Dad, if you come with humility and say,
S11: I'm so sorry I haven't been the dad that you've
S11: needed me to be to you, you can ask her
S11: three questions. One. On a scale of 0 to 10,
S11: how close do you feel we are? How connected? Number two,
S11: what could I do to be a better dad to you? Like,
S11: what do you need from me? You're not telling her
S11: to change. You're saying, what do you need from me?
S11: And then, number three, you take action. Let's set a
S11: time today, just you and me, to go out. And
S11: that's why in in my book, let's talk. I have
S11: 60 conversation starters so that dads don't ever have to
S11: worry that they don't know what to say or ask
S11: to draw her out. And so it's lead her to laugh.
S11: Lead her to love. Lead her to look. Lament. Getting
S11: into harder conversations in the last section lead her to listen. Dad,
S11: you can hand your daughter the book so she can
S11: ask you questions about your life. And so it's all
S11: about bonding, connecting, and talking so that you, with older
S11: daughters especially, can build and strengthen the bond between you.
S2: Doctor Michelle Watson Canfield, our guest this morning. How can
S2: moms use this book, whether they're single moms? Or maybe
S2: they just want to enhance their own relationship with their
S2: daughter alongside dad?
S11: You know, the book, even though it's written for dads
S11: and daughters, it's also for moms and sons, moms and daughters,
S11: dads and sons. Because many of the questions are really
S11: they're not gender specific. And so if you're asking your
S11: daughter questions about depression or anxiety or cyberbullying or same
S11: sex attraction, some of those harder right, harder topics to
S11: delve into. Dad, the more you can ask questions and
S11: and help your daughter or your son and mom again
S11: to your kids, this is about interpersonal conversations and strengthening
S11: the bond as we talk and open up and are vulnerable.
S11: And so absolutely, moms, you can use this book to
S11: to strengthen your relationship with your daughter or your son.
S2: Now, obviously as parents, mother and father, we want to
S2: ultimately point our kids to the Lord. How important is
S2: it as we are fostering these relationships and particularly for dads,
S2: how much of this relates to the relationship that your
S2: daughter will ultimately have with the Lord?
S11: That's a power packed question, isn't it? Because we all
S11: know that God Himself is called father. And I think
S11: most dads I've talked to say, why is he? Why
S11: is he looking to me as a human, to represent
S11: him as a father like that? And dads, I agree.
S11: What a responsibility and what a weight because you can't
S11: do it on your own, right? John 15 apart from God,
S11: you can do nothing anyway. Yes, but in Luke 1520
S11: right there in the middle of the Prodigal Son chapter. Dad,
S11: go back and read that chapter because there's there's it's
S11: all red letter where Jesus is saying, here's what my
S11: dad is like. And if you're a dad that says,
S11: I don't know how to represent God as a father
S11: to my daughter, there's five things that father does. It's
S11: all in one verse, verse 20. He's filled with compassion
S11: as he sees his child, runs toward his child, embraces
S11: and then kisses. Those are five action steps, dad, that
S11: you can rely on being solid action steps because Jesus
S11: himself said, this is how my dad approaches his kids
S11: and that's how you can approach yours.
S2: Doctor Michelle Watson Canfield You can find more Doctor Michelle
S2: Watson Doctor just abbreviated doctor Doctor Michelle Watson. The book
S2: is called Let's Talk Conversation Starters for Dads and Daughters. Michelle,
S2: thanks for being with us today. This is good stuff
S2: for dads who want to connect with their girls.