WEBVTT - Pursuing Manhood with God Part 2 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.360 Coming to you from the Morning Star Mission sponsored studio. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.120 This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.240 At Carl and crew. What we try to do is 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:16.480 go right to the heart of the matter. So let 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.840 me give this to you. Cogitating on this a lot. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:21.960 And I've thought about this for years. Even when I 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:26.079 ran track and field back in high school. There's a 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.560 common thread through all of life. There's things that we 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.480 either feel called to do innately, or things that we 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.000 aspire to personally. And with all those things, we can 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.519 get a grand vision of what could be. But if 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.400 you don't have a strategy to get there, you you're 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.720 you get your proverbial cookie in a Squisher took us 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:50.120 in a squishes. You weren't going to get there. Fair enough, guys. Fair. Absolutely. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:55.280 So and this is what I love about life. Because 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.640 if you look at life and then you open up 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.390 the Word of God, you go, oh my goodness. There's 0:01:00.430 --> 0:01:07.709 vision and strategy. That's the cool thing. So I want 0:01:07.750 --> 0:01:12.070 to make this so practical. Now the number of years 0:01:12.069 --> 0:01:14.070 ago I guess that's a fair way to put it 0:01:14.270 --> 0:01:18.350 over 40 something like that. I ran a dog sled 0:01:18.350 --> 0:01:21.070 race across Alaska. If you're new listening here, I ran 0:01:21.069 --> 0:01:24.990 a dog sled race called the Iditarod. It's 1100 miles 0:01:24.990 --> 0:01:28.990 from Anchorage, Alaska to Nome, Alaska. I still can't believe 0:01:28.990 --> 0:01:32.550 I made it. 21 days, eight hours, 12 minutes, 32 seconds. 0:01:32.590 --> 0:01:32.750 I mean. 0:01:32.790 --> 0:01:33.950 That's a feat, man. 0:01:34.190 --> 0:01:39.149 It was, it was, and I. Its history feels like 0:01:39.150 --> 0:01:41.229 someone else. You know what? Have you ever done something 0:01:41.270 --> 0:01:42.990 that feels like somebody else did that? 0:01:43.030 --> 0:01:44.390 Yes. Yes, absolutely. 0:01:44.550 --> 0:01:48.470 So I give all credit to my dogs. They were 0:01:48.470 --> 0:01:51.389 the athletes. In fact, I told people after the race 0:01:51.390 --> 0:01:53.230 was over, my team could have gotten there quicker if 0:01:53.230 --> 0:01:55.710 they'd had a better musher. I was a good musher 0:01:55.710 --> 0:01:58.450 for 18, but 18 is young. I had a lot 0:01:58.450 --> 0:02:01.970 to learn, and I knew that intuitively. But I learned 0:02:01.970 --> 0:02:04.650 something from my dogs that was just fascinating. So let 0:02:04.650 --> 0:02:06.450 me tell you about what it's like to have 50 0:02:06.490 --> 0:02:11.730 dogs in your kennel. 50 huskies. And what happens over 0:02:11.730 --> 0:02:13.769 a couple of years time. You go out on these 0:02:13.770 --> 0:02:17.130 training runs, and I would get some that would get 0:02:17.169 --> 0:02:20.170 on some, maybe get some laceration on their pad, a 0:02:20.169 --> 0:02:21.889 little bit of blood coming out of their pad, and 0:02:21.889 --> 0:02:23.690 I'd load them up in the sled and take care 0:02:23.690 --> 0:02:26.329 of them and put some ointment on them and bandage 0:02:26.330 --> 0:02:28.490 them up. And it was almost like they'd look at 0:02:28.490 --> 0:02:32.169 me like, thanks. Thanks so much, friend. I so appreciate 0:02:32.169 --> 0:02:34.770 that we're dogs, that we get tired at times and 0:02:34.770 --> 0:02:37.410 I'd load them in the sled because we're training, you know, 0:02:37.690 --> 0:02:39.970 and some of them just didn't have the stamina, and 0:02:40.130 --> 0:02:42.410 some of them felt the pressure and the shame of 0:02:42.410 --> 0:02:44.250 not being able to make it. I kid you not, 0:02:44.290 --> 0:02:46.810 they had shame in their eyes. And I would tell them, no, 0:02:46.810 --> 0:02:50.250 you're doing all right, buddy. You're you're all right. It's okay. 0:02:50.250 --> 0:02:52.530 We're going to get you back in the team tomorrow, 0:02:52.970 --> 0:02:55.290 and we're going to get some more wind in you. 0:02:55.330 --> 0:02:57.160 We're going to get a little more strength in you. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:01.320 Everything's going to be all right. And we'd go through overflow, 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.639 open water, and I'd get out of the water and 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.640 I'd dry myself off, and then I'd quickly dry off 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.240 the team. Well, after a while, you start to build 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.400 some real rapport with your dogs, and it's a sweet thing. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.600 Those dogs are born to run. They're born and bred 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.120 to run. If you don't run an Alaskan Husky that's 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:25.400 born this way, you're selling them short. And the way 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.639 that I knew this best is when I'd walk into 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.919 the dog lot and I'd start the cooker cooking for 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.800 the feed, they'd get excited. But when I walked into 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.240 the dog lot and I opened the door to the 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:39.480 harness shed where the harnesses were that they put on there, 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.480 I put on their body and then hook them into 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:49.360 the gang lines. They went bananas, I mean bananas. Neighbors 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.680 way down the lake could hear my dogs. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:53.280 That's so great. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:54.440 No way down the lake. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:55.400 That's why you got. 0:03:55.820 --> 0:03:57.620 There was a friend of mine had a had a kennel. 0:03:57.660 --> 0:04:01.580 He called it the, um, the Howling Dog Farm because 0:04:01.580 --> 0:04:04.180 that's a great descriptor of what happens when these dogs 0:04:04.220 --> 0:04:07.020 see a harness come out of a shed. 0:04:07.060 --> 0:04:09.660 And it's 50, 50 dogs all at one time, just 0:04:09.660 --> 0:04:12.260 losing their minds. Very vocal animals. Yes. 0:04:12.300 --> 0:04:14.420 It's one of the coolest things. It's one of the 0:04:14.420 --> 0:04:16.540 coolest sounds you can hear when you're standing in the 0:04:16.540 --> 0:04:18.940 middle of 50 dogs, and they're going bananas with the 0:04:18.940 --> 0:04:21.860 dog harness on, and you've got someone standing right next 0:04:21.860 --> 0:04:23.780 to you, you have to get in their ear and 0:04:23.779 --> 0:04:27.820 go grab that one right there, the one with the 0:04:27.820 --> 0:04:31.620 white coat and the piercing blue eyes. Grab him. Put 0:04:31.620 --> 0:04:35.779 this harness. You're yelling at them like that because that 0:04:35.779 --> 0:04:42.140 that is how loud the dogs are. You know, you've 0:04:42.140 --> 0:04:47.299 got a. You've got a God sized vision in front 0:04:47.300 --> 0:04:49.099 of you to be the man that God wants you 0:04:49.100 --> 0:04:53.260 to be. And you might think, boy, I know I do. 0:04:53.300 --> 0:04:55.450 You know it innately. You know it. When you were 0:04:55.450 --> 0:04:58.010 born again, God stamped on your heart. You're a new 0:04:58.010 --> 0:05:00.770 man and you just need someone with a strategy to 0:05:00.770 --> 0:05:03.090 get you there so that when they pull out the harnesses, 0:05:03.089 --> 0:05:09.330 you go, oh, I know how to get there. And 0:05:09.330 --> 0:05:11.130 coming up here in a moment, I want you to 0:05:11.170 --> 0:05:14.690 know that this innate sense that there is more for 0:05:14.690 --> 0:05:18.170 men is real. But what if you had someone on 0:05:18.170 --> 0:05:20.170 the back of the sled that had a strategy for 0:05:20.170 --> 0:05:25.570 how to get there? So there might be some serious 0:05:25.570 --> 0:05:28.650 howling going on here in a moment. And that's for 0:05:28.650 --> 0:05:31.690 good reason, because we got a good friend coming in here. 0:05:32.050 --> 0:05:35.730 Doctor Robert Lewis with Better Man Ministries, with not just 0:05:35.730 --> 0:05:39.050 a vision, but a strategy for helping you as a 0:05:39.050 --> 0:05:42.450 man and the men in your life to really become 0:05:42.450 --> 0:05:43.770 what God's called you to be. 0:05:44.210 --> 0:05:46.930 You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't 0:05:46.970 --> 0:05:50.850 take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew. 0:05:51.010 --> 0:05:53.590 It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:05:53.950 --> 0:05:55.909 You know, I had a man tell me one time 0:05:56.310 --> 0:05:58.270 to know the will of God. You can read the 0:05:58.270 --> 0:06:00.510 book to know the way of God, to get to 0:06:00.550 --> 0:06:03.070 the will of God. You got to read a little deeper. 0:06:03.630 --> 0:06:05.470 The same thing is true with vision. You can get 0:06:05.470 --> 0:06:09.190 a vision of manhood and you can hear it talked about. 0:06:09.190 --> 0:06:12.790 You can have a grand idea of what could be 0:06:12.790 --> 0:06:15.950 out there, but without a strategy, we're never going to 0:06:15.950 --> 0:06:20.150 get there. What if the better man that God has 0:06:20.150 --> 0:06:23.950 designed you to be was within reach? It is. Doctor 0:06:23.950 --> 0:06:27.790 Robert Lewis is with us right now. It's fascinating, isn't it, Robert? We. 0:06:27.790 --> 0:06:31.310 I think we can get a vision for biblical, authentic 0:06:31.310 --> 0:06:34.870 manhood and get a rousing sense in our heart. But 0:06:34.870 --> 0:06:36.830 then we got to do something with that. We need 0:06:36.830 --> 0:06:38.549 a strategy, don't we, my friend? 0:06:38.870 --> 0:06:42.950 Absolutely. Because I think today, because of the breakdown of 0:06:42.950 --> 0:06:47.950 the home, most young men moving into young adulthood walk 0:06:47.950 --> 0:06:51.700 into a big fog and guess their way through manhood. 0:06:52.020 --> 0:06:55.980 Robert Lewis with us right now he is a pastor, speaker, author, 0:06:55.980 --> 0:06:59.420 founding partner of Better Man Ministries. You know, you you 0:06:59.420 --> 0:07:01.420 have a quote on your website. You cannot become what 0:07:01.420 --> 0:07:05.700 you cannot define. For so many men, the messages are 0:07:05.740 --> 0:07:09.020 very mixed as to what even it looks like to 0:07:09.020 --> 0:07:12.500 be a strong man. You don't want toxic masculinity, but 0:07:12.500 --> 0:07:15.060 you don't want to be passive. You want to pursue 0:07:15.100 --> 0:07:18.700 a woman, but you don't want to be intimidating, or 0:07:18.700 --> 0:07:21.460 make her think that she's diminished in some in some way. 0:07:21.500 --> 0:07:24.060 It's a it's a tough landscape to navigate. 0:07:24.340 --> 0:07:27.380 Well, it's gotten tougher in our day because when we 0:07:27.380 --> 0:07:30.740 remove more traditional roles and that kind of thing, and 0:07:30.740 --> 0:07:33.540 it's kind of every man for himself. Uh, a lot 0:07:33.580 --> 0:07:36.340 of men do not look to other men for help 0:07:36.340 --> 0:07:39.140 in their manhood. They think they should know it. So 0:07:39.140 --> 0:07:42.420 they try to guess their life and their manhood into 0:07:42.420 --> 0:07:47.660 the future. And oftentimes those hit tragic, hurtful, and sometimes 0:07:47.660 --> 0:07:49.180 even deadly dead ends. 0:07:49.340 --> 0:07:51.890 Yeah. You know, it's interesting, Robert. I was with 500 0:07:51.890 --> 0:07:54.530 men in Arizona, and I saw a common thread again 0:07:55.010 --> 0:07:58.809 that I see over and over. Sometimes those tragic dead 0:07:58.850 --> 0:08:02.650 ends are God's dinner bell to redeem something that has 0:08:02.650 --> 0:08:04.890 been wasted. Tell us about that. 0:08:05.330 --> 0:08:07.810 One of the things that I'm so excited about, what 0:08:07.810 --> 0:08:10.890 I'm doing and working with younger men, is the fact 0:08:10.890 --> 0:08:14.970 that there's a huge hunger out there. But you have 0:08:14.970 --> 0:08:19.690 to have someone that a younger man respects that starts 0:08:19.690 --> 0:08:22.369 speaking into his life. And if he takes the time 0:08:22.370 --> 0:08:26.490 to do that and he's genuine in his outreach. One 0:08:26.490 --> 0:08:28.410 of the great things about the day in which we 0:08:28.410 --> 0:08:32.449 live is younger men want to learn, but they need 0:08:32.490 --> 0:08:36.050 older men just to initiate towards them. And that's what 0:08:36.050 --> 0:08:38.570 we've seen with better man using older men to reach 0:08:38.570 --> 0:08:42.610 younger men. But there's a tremendous hunger of young men 0:08:42.610 --> 0:08:46.770 to help me think through this, because inside they know 0:08:46.770 --> 0:08:49.189 that they don't know, but they just don't want other 0:08:49.190 --> 0:08:50.990 men to know that they don't know. 0:08:51.230 --> 0:08:51.670 Yeah. 0:08:52.030 --> 0:08:56.470 You know, there's an insecurity, I think, in this generation 0:08:56.470 --> 0:08:59.590 of men. I saw this I saw this funny video, Robert, 0:08:59.590 --> 0:09:02.550 and it was it was talking about toxic masculinity. And 0:09:02.550 --> 0:09:06.070 they said the difference from, like, my dad's toxic masculinity 0:09:06.070 --> 0:09:08.150 was that my dad and this is they were just 0:09:08.150 --> 0:09:10.310 being honest. They said my dad could punch a wall, 0:09:10.309 --> 0:09:13.070 but he could fix it. They said this generation's toxic 0:09:13.070 --> 0:09:15.910 masculinity punches a wall in anger, but then has to 0:09:15.910 --> 0:09:18.550 call somebody else to fix it because they never learned how. 0:09:19.030 --> 0:09:21.829 So there's this sense of like, I want to break 0:09:21.830 --> 0:09:24.150 this cycle. I don't want this anger, I don't want 0:09:24.150 --> 0:09:26.150 this rage. But at the same time, I don't feel 0:09:26.150 --> 0:09:28.869 equipped to do some of the things that my dad's 0:09:28.870 --> 0:09:31.830 generation could do. So I feel less of a man 0:09:31.870 --> 0:09:34.309 because I can't do some of those things. You get 0:09:34.309 --> 0:09:35.550 where I'm going with this. 0:09:35.750 --> 0:09:39.189 Just think how imprisoning that is. If you don't know 0:09:39.190 --> 0:09:42.030 what to do, and you don't even know how to 0:09:42.030 --> 0:09:44.710 fight your way out of it, just kind of sit there. 0:09:44.710 --> 0:09:49.060 And that's why we see mental health issues, depression, addiction, 0:09:49.340 --> 0:09:52.900 all kinds of those things just skyrocketing among young men. 0:09:53.059 --> 0:09:56.980 I mean, we used the George Barna Barna organization to 0:09:57.020 --> 0:10:00.340 do a national survey with young men just to see 0:10:00.340 --> 0:10:03.219 where they are. Men under 40. And I remember they 0:10:03.220 --> 0:10:08.300 came back and said, this is the loneliest, most disconnected 0:10:08.580 --> 0:10:13.219 generation of young men in history. And it's very it's 0:10:13.220 --> 0:10:17.980 not just toxic to society. It's very toxic to them. 0:10:18.500 --> 0:10:23.060 And a lot of health issues are escalating with young 0:10:23.059 --> 0:10:26.380 men because they don't know what to do. They're just 0:10:26.420 --> 0:10:28.260 in I call it the manhood fog. 0:10:28.580 --> 0:10:29.060 Yeah. 0:10:29.420 --> 0:10:31.860 You might be in this fog right now or wanting 0:10:31.860 --> 0:10:34.060 to help someone get out. You're in a good place. 0:10:34.059 --> 0:10:39.260 Coming up with doctor Robert Lewis. Credible author, great mentor, 0:10:39.420 --> 0:10:41.260 a mentor of mine for a number of years and 0:10:41.260 --> 0:10:43.980 still to this day. And we're going to tackle this. 0:10:43.980 --> 0:10:46.320 How do we know we're in the fog. And how 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.959 do we get out? Straight ahead with Robert Lewis. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:54.760 She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.920 Super die is in the crew. It's Karl and crew 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.199 on Moody Radio. 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.640 It's called The Fog. So says Robert Lewis. We get 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.520 into this fog of real manhood, wondering what is it? 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.920 How do we walk forward? A lot of what we 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.840 learned in manhood, Robert was learned in the locker room. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.920 That didn't work. And a lot of what we're learning 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.839 today is even less than that. There's so much as 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.240 you just cited loneliness and despair. And I want to 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.880 give you a scenario here and just speak to this scenario. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.040 I've been mentoring a man at one of our campuses 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.880 here in Chicago, and it's been fascinating because he is 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:36.600 on the proverbial treadmill. Sin, shame. Repent, repeat. And there's 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.920 a voice going on in his head that says, I 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.280 can't do it. What do you say to that man? 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:46.310 Well, one of the kind of Openings for young men 0:11:46.870 --> 0:11:49.150 that I do a lot is to get a group 0:11:49.150 --> 0:11:52.390 of young men together and just sit down for an evening, 0:11:52.390 --> 0:11:55.470 and we ask them to tell their story. And by 0:11:55.470 --> 0:11:58.350 telling their story, what I mean by that is to 0:11:58.390 --> 0:12:00.910 draw out a picture of the family you grew up in, 0:12:01.030 --> 0:12:04.150 not necessarily the one you were born into, because a 0:12:04.190 --> 0:12:06.390 lot of families change in those early days. But the 0:12:06.390 --> 0:12:09.790 one you grew up in and then tell us what 0:12:09.830 --> 0:12:12.310 role you played in that family, and then tell us 0:12:12.309 --> 0:12:16.030 about the relationship with your dad and what was something 0:12:16.030 --> 0:12:20.309 you really learned that helps you today? But what's interesting, 0:12:20.750 --> 0:12:23.910 most men have never opened up and told other men 0:12:23.950 --> 0:12:28.750 their story. And they start realizing how lost they are, 0:12:28.950 --> 0:12:33.430 and many of them with no dad or no instruction 0:12:33.429 --> 0:12:37.470 from dad. But the big winner is they're being honest 0:12:37.470 --> 0:12:40.510 with one another, and they're in a community of young 0:12:40.510 --> 0:12:43.490 men where they can talk about it, and all of 0:12:43.490 --> 0:12:47.290 a sudden they realized, this feels good. This feels good. 0:12:47.610 --> 0:12:52.250 And it's the start of that community. That is the 0:12:53.130 --> 0:12:58.170 opening to a healthy manhood. Because healthy manhood requires first 0:12:58.210 --> 0:13:01.890 a safe community and then biblical clarity. 0:13:02.250 --> 0:13:04.690 Okay, let's spike that for a second here. So you're 0:13:04.690 --> 0:13:08.449 saying a lot of the solution for this isolation and 0:13:08.450 --> 0:13:11.930 these cycles of despair and wanting to get out, can't 0:13:11.929 --> 0:13:14.890 get out, is just the lack of others to walk 0:13:14.929 --> 0:13:16.010 this road with. 0:13:16.210 --> 0:13:19.209 That's right. To open up and just talk about what's 0:13:19.210 --> 0:13:22.170 going on inside of me. It's just a huge pressure 0:13:22.410 --> 0:13:25.490 relief valve when you're with other safe men. It could 0:13:25.490 --> 0:13:27.490 be two. It could be three. It could be like 0:13:27.490 --> 0:13:29.610 in the case of the other night with my group 0:13:29.610 --> 0:13:32.050 of young men, it was ten of us. We're teaching. 0:13:32.050 --> 0:13:35.490 We're just talking and sharing where we came from to 0:13:35.530 --> 0:13:38.890 try to connect the dots of where we are and 0:13:38.890 --> 0:13:42.319 then talk about what do you need? So it's unveiling 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:46.400 the past, cracking the lid, being honest and in that community, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.480 being open to say, okay, here's where I am. I've 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.040 never had a relationship with my dad or just went 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.839 through a divorce, or I'm in this addiction or I'm 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.280 struggling with this issue. But I've discovered tonight there are 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.240 other guys around the table who have similar stories who 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:06.040 can identify with me. And so it sets the table 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.959 to what do we do? And I always say, hey, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.800 the best thing to do is look for some enduring 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.480 wisdom in the Bible is the greatest source of enduring wisdom. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.160 So let's talk about what the Bible has to say. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:22.400 So into that community of chaos, we bring biblical clarity 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:27.960 that suddenly brings these aha's that I've seen change men's lives. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.680 As you know, Carl, for now, 35 years. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.840 Doctor Robert Lewis, our guest right now. Now, you have 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.440 a passion to make this more accessible than ever. What 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.760 you're talking about to actually become a reality. You've had 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:45.030 now 500,000 men, 10,000 churches taking part in these better 0:14:45.030 --> 0:14:48.390 man teachings. Explain what you're offering up for free. 0:14:48.910 --> 0:14:52.830 Well, what we did is about four years ago, some 0:14:52.830 --> 0:14:55.550 men that I was close to down in Dallas, Texas, 0:14:55.790 --> 0:14:58.190 asked me if I would do some series where we 0:14:58.190 --> 0:15:01.950 could reach young men and they were willing to fund everything, 0:15:01.950 --> 0:15:03.870 and I said I would do it if you could 0:15:03.910 --> 0:15:07.150 offer it all for free. So we got together, formed 0:15:07.150 --> 0:15:10.470 better man. Uh, we did video series. We did what 0:15:10.470 --> 0:15:15.310 I call the ten Fundamentals of Manhood, and it's all online. 0:15:15.310 --> 0:15:19.510 We've got multiple teachers teaching those ten weeks. So we 0:15:19.510 --> 0:15:23.430 have different ethnicities, different age groups. But you can go 0:15:23.430 --> 0:15:27.270 online and see each one of those teachers teach those 0:15:27.270 --> 0:15:31.030 ten weeks and then off your phone or computer, you 0:15:31.030 --> 0:15:35.310 can download for free those ten weeks and the workbook, 0:15:35.550 --> 0:15:38.310 and then just get with a small group of guys. 0:15:38.310 --> 0:15:41.570 That's what we recommend. Usually having at least one older 0:15:41.570 --> 0:15:44.530 man in the group and go through the series together, 0:15:44.730 --> 0:15:49.290 and it has really connected with young men, and it's 0:15:49.290 --> 0:15:52.770 great to bring older men into it. And a listener 0:15:52.770 --> 0:15:57.170 today could download anything he wanted off our website for free. 0:15:57.330 --> 0:15:59.530 Today's the day, guys. I'm telling you right now, I 0:15:59.570 --> 0:16:02.970 got a boiling passion inside of me. This is real. Uh, 0:16:03.010 --> 0:16:06.610 it's desperately needed. You know it. And most I would 0:16:06.610 --> 0:16:12.090 say Ali. I mean, it's anecdotal, but we get how 0:16:12.130 --> 0:16:15.250 much feedback here about how do I get my way 0:16:15.250 --> 0:16:17.450 out of this thing now, we've got something here, don't we? 0:16:17.490 --> 0:16:19.930 Absolutely. And this is going to be content that you 0:16:19.930 --> 0:16:22.090 can do with the small group that you can bring 0:16:22.130 --> 0:16:24.570 to your church to help them get on board with it. 0:16:24.730 --> 0:16:28.369 We've got it for you. Just text man to 855 0:16:28.410 --> 0:16:31.610 five 7898. If you want to explore more of this 0:16:31.610 --> 0:16:34.650 free content. This video teaching. This is very much a 0:16:34.650 --> 0:16:37.290 plug and play option where it has been prepared for 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.440 you so that you can engage with some brothers in Christ. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:45.680 Go ahead and text man to 800 555 7898. Man 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.560 to (800) 555-7898. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.760 Robert, before we let you go, give us a story. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.440 Give us a story that's fresh on your heart about somebody, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.760 a young man. He may not have arrived, but he's 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.200 got some breakthrough right now. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.720 Well, it's funny you said that because the other day 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:05.800 I got a text from a young man in Saudi Arabia, 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.800 and somehow he had gotten hold of the better man material, 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.760 downloaded it with another guy and walked through it. Because 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.919 you're not going to fix your manhood by just a coffee. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.520 You've got to have some time where you sit and 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.560 soak in the truths of the scriptures made relevant through 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.560 this kind of video technology. And he had done that 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.920 by himself with another guy, and they had just talked 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.240 through it and he wanted to contact me, didn't know 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.160 how he had worked through our better man resources. But 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.340 basically what he said, He said, I grew up a Buddhist. 0:17:38.340 --> 0:17:43.180 I didn't know anything about manhood. I went through the series, 0:17:43.180 --> 0:17:47.219 I was introduced to Jesus with my friend, and we 0:17:47.220 --> 0:17:50.900 talked about it through the series. And he said, I 0:17:50.900 --> 0:17:53.340 wanted you to know at the end of that time, 0:17:53.340 --> 0:17:54.980 I gave my life to Jesus. 0:17:55.020 --> 0:17:56.100 Oh my goodness. 0:17:56.500 --> 0:18:00.260 Now that's a guy who is as far out from 0:18:00.260 --> 0:18:04.940 my ability to influence him as you can possibly get 0:18:04.980 --> 0:18:10.940 another country, a different religion. He's using technology, but the 0:18:10.940 --> 0:18:15.540 truths of the Scripture made relevant to his manhood in 0:18:15.540 --> 0:18:20.700 community with one other guy. They came to Christ just 0:18:20.700 --> 0:18:24.900 by listening to the Bible made relevant to their manhood, 0:18:24.900 --> 0:18:28.820 and they went from a foggy manhood to Jesus's life 0:18:28.859 --> 0:18:32.540 giving manhood. And that ended up with them walking with 0:18:32.540 --> 0:18:36.010 Jesus himself. That's why I'm in the game, Carl. Because 0:18:36.010 --> 0:18:38.930 I've seen that happen thousands of times. 0:18:38.970 --> 0:18:40.730 Wow. You know, I've always known you to be a 0:18:40.730 --> 0:18:42.929 passionate man. From the time when we sat down, I 0:18:42.930 --> 0:18:45.010 was in your small group when you were writing this 0:18:45.010 --> 0:18:48.650 core curriculum, when it all began. And yet, Robert, that 0:18:48.650 --> 0:18:50.770 fire's not gone out. I feel like it's building here, 0:18:50.770 --> 0:18:52.369 my friend. God's doing something. 0:18:53.330 --> 0:18:56.250 He is doing something. And we've got a lot of 0:18:56.290 --> 0:18:59.850 great speakers on board who do our video series. But 0:18:59.850 --> 0:19:03.369 these guys really connect with younger men, and we use 0:19:03.369 --> 0:19:06.890 older men just to sit at the table as table guides, 0:19:06.890 --> 0:19:10.850 just sharing honestly their life, going through these experiences. I mean, 0:19:10.850 --> 0:19:14.050 we have multiple curriculums, but the basic curriculum on the 0:19:14.050 --> 0:19:17.810 fundamentals of of manhood, called core, is the one we're 0:19:17.850 --> 0:19:21.409 offering today for free. And just telling you some time 0:19:21.410 --> 0:19:25.770 in that soaking in that curriculum with a community of men, 0:19:25.770 --> 0:19:29.530 just talking and being real, it brings you out of 0:19:29.530 --> 0:19:33.990 the cultural fog, the woke culture that we're in. That's. 0:19:34.030 --> 0:19:37.310 Offering dead ends. And it will provide for you an 0:19:37.310 --> 0:19:39.830 escape hatch to life giving manhood. 0:19:39.869 --> 0:19:43.629 Love it. Robert Louis is his name. He's a good man, 0:19:43.630 --> 0:19:47.230 and he's got some phenomenal content again. Ali. What's that link, sister? 0:19:47.270 --> 0:19:55.230 Just text man to 800 555 78, 98. Man. Man (800) 555-7898. 0:19:55.590 --> 0:20:00.149 A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is 0:20:00.150 --> 0:20:03.790 in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:20:04.390 --> 0:20:07.510 It's Wednesday. It's the bottom of the hour. 0:20:07.830 --> 0:20:12.350 It's time making herself laugh. No matter who joins her, 0:20:12.590 --> 0:20:15.230 it's time for Ali thinks it's funny. 0:20:16.550 --> 0:20:18.150 Today's been a good day of jokes. 0:20:18.150 --> 0:20:18.510 We do? 0:20:18.510 --> 0:20:19.229 Yes. It has. 0:20:19.790 --> 0:20:21.070 Let's hope I don't mess it up. 0:20:21.790 --> 0:20:24.790 Finish strong, finish strong. Come on, come on. 0:20:25.510 --> 0:20:27.110 I shouldn't have set myself up. 0:20:27.230 --> 0:20:27.710 Oh, yeah. 0:20:27.750 --> 0:20:28.350 You did. 0:20:28.670 --> 0:20:32.070 All right. What do you call a fly without wings? 0:20:32.859 --> 0:20:36.100 This is not philosophical. What do you call a fly 0:20:36.100 --> 0:20:38.700 without wings? Anyone? Anyone? 0:20:39.260 --> 0:20:40.460 What do you believe? He can't. 0:20:40.660 --> 0:20:42.820 I believe he can't fly. I don't know. 0:20:42.859 --> 0:20:46.700 Oh, wow. Carl's coming with the alternative punch lines today. 0:20:46.980 --> 0:20:50.780 A fly without wings is called a walk. It's called 0:20:50.780 --> 0:20:52.180 a walk. Ladies and gentlemen. 0:20:55.300 --> 0:20:56.379 Pretty straightforward. 0:20:56.420 --> 0:20:57.180 Pretty good. 0:20:57.220 --> 0:21:00.300 Yes, yes. And then we like to give soar around here. 0:21:00.300 --> 0:21:02.100 So I would like to give a bit of a PSA. 0:21:02.140 --> 0:21:04.820 I think that my account was hacked. 0:21:05.180 --> 0:21:05.540 Oh, no. 0:21:05.580 --> 0:21:06.660 Unfortunate when that. 0:21:06.660 --> 0:21:07.340 Happens. 0:21:07.500 --> 0:21:11.500 So if you receive a message from me about investing 0:21:11.500 --> 0:21:15.420 in canned meat, investing in canned meat, don't open. 0:21:15.420 --> 0:21:17.580 It. Ignore it. I already opened it. 0:21:17.859 --> 0:21:18.420 Don't open. 0:21:18.420 --> 0:21:19.180 It. Oh, no. 0:21:19.220 --> 0:21:20.020 You want to know why? 0:21:20.060 --> 0:21:20.660 Why? Why? 0:21:20.700 --> 0:21:22.700 Because it's spam. It's definitely. 0:21:22.700 --> 0:21:25.739 Spam. As soon as you. 0:21:25.740 --> 0:21:26.900 Said canned meat, I thought. 0:21:26.900 --> 0:21:27.740 That's awesome. 0:21:27.940 --> 0:21:30.460 That's great. That's great. 0:21:30.500 --> 0:21:36.409 If you want today's jokes, text jokes to 800 555 7898. 0:21:36.450 --> 0:21:41.730 Jokes to 800 555 7898. Super die always sees the 0:21:41.730 --> 0:21:42.810 punchline coming. 0:21:43.530 --> 0:21:44.410 Yeah she does. 0:21:44.450 --> 0:21:45.489 She always gets it. 0:21:45.530 --> 0:21:47.690 Is that why she grumbles when it lands? 0:21:47.890 --> 0:21:50.729 Because she gets like in her mind. She has all 0:21:50.770 --> 0:21:52.930 of them answered before I get the get it out. 0:21:52.930 --> 0:21:55.969 She does. Can I tell you a quick spam story? 0:21:56.250 --> 0:21:57.410 Sure. Yes. All right. 0:21:57.810 --> 0:22:03.410 All right, so here's the deal. I was 18.5 years old, 0:22:03.850 --> 0:22:08.250 and so I'm still relatively young on a crazy new adventure. 0:22:08.250 --> 0:22:12.770 I had bought a 32 foot gillnetter wood plank gillnetter 0:22:12.810 --> 0:22:14.850 that had all kinds of problems, not least of which 0:22:14.890 --> 0:22:16.770 was the fact that it leaked like a sieve. 0:22:16.810 --> 0:22:19.330 Okay, what is it, an eight? Yeah. Back it up. 0:22:19.369 --> 0:22:23.090 Gillnetter a wood plank. Gillnetter. It's a 32 foot commercial 0:22:23.090 --> 0:22:26.090 fishing vessel. It was kind of old school. It had 0:22:26.090 --> 0:22:28.730 a gasoline engine, which is, like very dangerous. They don't 0:22:28.730 --> 0:22:31.710 do that at all anymore. It's just for commercial fishing. 0:22:31.710 --> 0:22:35.150 It's just not wise. Catch a wood boat on fire 0:22:35.150 --> 0:22:40.350 in a heartbeat. So we're. We're fishing in Togiak Bay 0:22:40.390 --> 0:22:43.470 on the west coast of Alaska. The ice has just 0:22:43.470 --> 0:22:46.389 come off the water, and we're fishing for herring. So 0:22:46.390 --> 0:22:48.790 we're putting gillnets down into the water in these herring 0:22:48.790 --> 0:22:51.830 schools that come fill it in. Boom. We load it 0:22:51.830 --> 0:22:54.150 on board. But the funny thing about spam is that 0:22:54.190 --> 0:22:57.070 we we didn't plan food that we needed on this trip, 0:22:57.070 --> 0:22:59.390 and we ate up all of our good stuff ahead 0:22:59.390 --> 0:23:02.270 of time, and all we had left near the end 0:23:02.270 --> 0:23:06.750 of the season was a huge bag of potatoes and 0:23:06.869 --> 0:23:10.629 many cans of spam and Grey Poupon mustard. That's it. 0:23:10.869 --> 0:23:11.430 That's what we. 0:23:11.430 --> 0:23:11.590 Had. 0:23:11.630 --> 0:23:12.990 There's a combination. 0:23:13.030 --> 0:23:16.630 Yeah, and that's what we had morning, noon and night 0:23:16.630 --> 0:23:20.109 for about a week. We had potatoes, spam and Grey 0:23:20.109 --> 0:23:21.070 Poupon mustard. 0:23:21.109 --> 0:23:21.909 Oh my goodness. 0:23:21.910 --> 0:23:25.109 And I found ways to cook spam. Like you can't believe, man. 0:23:25.150 --> 0:23:27.389 I mean, I would I was trying to air dry 0:23:27.390 --> 0:23:28.659 it to make it jerky. 0:23:29.660 --> 0:23:30.260 Frying it in. 0:23:30.500 --> 0:23:31.980 Air. Dried spam. 0:23:32.060 --> 0:23:32.580 Yeah. 0:23:32.780 --> 0:23:36.060 It was. It was outstanding. And and I cooked. There's 0:23:36.060 --> 0:23:38.500 gelatin in the spam, you know. So you pull that 0:23:38.500 --> 0:23:40.859 out and I'd get that all sizzling, and then I'd 0:23:41.140 --> 0:23:44.780 do thin sliced spam, and then I'd, I'd, I'd, I 0:23:45.020 --> 0:23:48.700 wrapped it around and put, uh, put little toothpicks in 0:23:48.700 --> 0:23:52.220 it to make little potato spam. Little. 0:23:52.260 --> 0:23:53.139 That's creative. 0:23:53.180 --> 0:23:54.500 Like little sliders. 0:23:54.660 --> 0:23:55.660 Little sliders. 0:23:55.660 --> 0:23:56.820 You gotta do what you gotta do. 0:23:57.380 --> 0:24:00.179 But the the the secret sauce to spam if you 0:24:00.180 --> 0:24:02.260 don't like it. I happen to like it. But if 0:24:02.260 --> 0:24:05.540 you don't like spam is Grey Poupon mustard man. It 0:24:05.540 --> 0:24:06.179 covers over. 0:24:06.300 --> 0:24:06.580 A. 0:24:07.020 --> 0:24:10.500 Massive amount of iniquities of sin. It's just really good stuff. 0:24:10.580 --> 0:24:12.300 So you got some spam? 0:24:12.380 --> 0:24:13.899 Do people still buy spam? 0:24:14.140 --> 0:24:16.460 Oh yeah, I had spam, I don't know, a couple 0:24:16.460 --> 0:24:19.260 months ago. You did? Yeah, for the first time. So 0:24:19.859 --> 0:24:21.659 I didn't think it was all that bad. No, it's 0:24:21.660 --> 0:24:22.620 pretty good. Not that bad. 0:24:24.180 --> 0:24:25.340 Who knows what's in that thing? 0:24:25.380 --> 0:24:27.040 That's all. That's also very true. 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:31.640 I don't know what's in that sucker, man. It's like, oh, boy, 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:35.200 you see those mass processed videos of the goop that comes. 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:35.680 Out, and then. 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:36.720 You realize, oh. 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.640 Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to. Yeah. 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:41.760 How hot dogs are made. You don't want the answer 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:42.320 to that one. 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:42.840 Nope. 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.400 Yeah, there's lots of. You're getting horse innards or cow 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:47.520 innards or whatever it is. 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:48.360 Thank you Carl. 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:49.560 All kinds of stuff. 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:50.080 Thank you. 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.280 Carl. I just want to bless your socks off. But 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.960 the good news is, Ali, a little Grey Poupon. 0:24:58.280 --> 0:24:59.240 Here's the secret. 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.119 See my jokes. It's the gift that keeps on giving. 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:03.440 Yeah. 0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:04.080 You would not have. 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:04.399 Gotten. 0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:04.680 That. 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:05.480 Story had I. 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.720 No I wouldn't. Thank you very much. 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.840 Come on. Love covers a multitude of sin. And mustard 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:13.360 covers a multitude of spam. 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:14.919 Oh, boy, it's Grey Poupon. 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.479 Oh, I got some good news for you, Ali. Your favorite. 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.840 One of your favorite stores, Costco, sells mega packs of spam. 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:21.840 Oh, yeah. 0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:23.360 Says one of our listeners. 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.590 That's gone on over there? 0:25:26.230 --> 0:25:28.830 I love Costco, but I don't love spam. Sorry. 0:25:29.230 --> 0:25:31.830 Oh goodness sakes. Okay. Coming up. We got a lot 0:25:31.869 --> 0:25:34.350 going on. Oh, before we go a step further, it's 0:25:34.350 --> 0:25:35.470 almost mom's day. 0:25:35.750 --> 0:25:37.110 It is. And we want to make sure you know 0:25:37.109 --> 0:25:40.550 about a great giveaway that ends this week with Mother's 0:25:40.550 --> 0:25:42.430 Day coming up this Sunday. So make sure you get 0:25:42.430 --> 0:25:46.430 your entry form in to win a $550 gift for 0:25:46.430 --> 0:25:49.470 your mom. This is going to be a spa gift certificate. 0:25:49.510 --> 0:25:51.909 A restaurant gift certificate. You can win it for a 0:25:51.910 --> 0:25:53.790 mom in your life. You can win it for yourself. 0:25:53.790 --> 0:25:56.430 If you're a mom, just get the entry form. Tell 0:25:56.430 --> 0:25:58.830 us what makes your mom so special and unique. Fill 0:25:58.830 --> 0:26:01.429 out a couple of lines so we have your information 0:26:01.430 --> 0:26:03.670 and we will contact you. If you are the winner. 0:26:03.710 --> 0:26:08.949 Just text mom to 800 555 7898. Text mom to 0:26:08.990 --> 0:26:12.070 800 555 7898. 0:26:12.710 --> 0:26:15.710 He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then 0:26:15.750 --> 0:26:20.070 he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl 0:26:20.070 --> 0:26:21.830 and crew on Moody Radio. 0:26:22.270 --> 0:26:29.050 Nothing inspires. Spires. Like seeing someone overcome. Really? But when 0:26:29.050 --> 0:26:33.290 it's your mom, it's something special, isn't it, Ali? 0:26:33.330 --> 0:26:35.609 It is. And so we asked you, what did you 0:26:35.609 --> 0:26:41.450 see your mom overcome that inspired you? 805 55. 7898. 0:26:41.490 --> 0:26:44.170 Let's go to Jane calling in this morning from Illinois. Jane. 0:26:44.170 --> 0:26:44.730 Tell us. 0:26:46.130 --> 0:26:51.209 Hi, there. Well. My mom. Oh, my. Oh, boy. She 0:26:51.210 --> 0:26:56.170 was pregnant with my 11th child. Her 11th child. When 0:26:56.210 --> 0:26:58.929 my dad died, I was almost three. And she had. 0:26:58.970 --> 0:27:04.570 So anyway, she carried the birth, and, um, she raised 0:27:04.570 --> 0:27:08.490 all 11 of us. All 11 of us by herself. 0:27:08.810 --> 0:27:11.090 No food stamps and all the wonderful programs that they 0:27:11.090 --> 0:27:14.690 have nowadays. Just lots of good neighbors in a small 0:27:14.690 --> 0:27:17.169 little town. Plus, she took in a gal when she 0:27:17.170 --> 0:27:19.210 was in high school at the gal was in high 0:27:19.210 --> 0:27:21.930 school that just was having a hard time at home. 0:27:21.970 --> 0:27:23.639 She said, Will you come and live with us? 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:29.120 Jane took in a gal. Are you kidding me? Your mom. 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.040 What an inspiration, huh, Jane? 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.160 Oh my, oh my, oh, my. We all live by 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:35.640 her inspirations today. 0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:37.560 What's her. What's her name? 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.639 Neva. My mom's name. Neva. 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.760 Oh, I gotta tell you, Jane, that is. That is 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.439 so beautiful. What a story. My goodness. Hold on the line, sister. 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.360 I know you got to hustle. Thanks for calling in, 0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:53.040 but I want to get a Carl and crew prize 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.399 back into your hand. Can you imagine that? 0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:56.520 Listen, guys. 0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:02.320 Can you get this? She's with child, her 11th. Wow. 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.600 And her husband passes away, and she rears those kids 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.760 and takes in. Sorry, but I think we got. Game set. 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.840 Match on something like that story. 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.280 I mean, that's amazing. I can't imagine. 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:20.080 Oh my goodness. Phillip in Illinois. What's your story, my man? 0:28:21.710 --> 0:28:26.030 You know, my mother, Hattie Lou Jean Warren Van Lear. 0:28:26.670 --> 0:28:29.790 Handicapped woman. She had her right leg was eight inches 0:28:29.790 --> 0:28:32.990 shorter than her left, so she wore a built up shoe. 0:28:33.470 --> 0:28:38.030 Single parent. My dad, rolling Stone, was never around. She 0:28:38.030 --> 0:28:41.230 raised two boys in the 50s and 60s. Black woman, 0:28:41.230 --> 0:28:45.190 handicapped black woman. Worked two and a half jobs, paid 0:28:45.190 --> 0:28:49.670 off the house, raised us knuckleheads that we were. And 0:28:49.670 --> 0:28:53.190 I never, not once ever saw her without a smile. 0:28:53.670 --> 0:28:57.750 Without a gospel song on her lips, without joy. She 0:28:57.750 --> 0:29:02.830 would call other people to encourage them. She helped single 0:29:02.830 --> 0:29:07.430 moms through their pregnancies. I have never complained. Not at all. 0:29:07.470 --> 0:29:09.950 I mean, she's been an inspiration. She was an inspiration 0:29:09.950 --> 0:29:13.070 to so many people. She's she's in glory now. She 0:29:13.230 --> 0:29:17.630 she passed in 2006, but, uh, I, I, uh, I 0:29:18.030 --> 0:29:20.250 wasn't going to call, but man, I had to, I said, 0:29:20.330 --> 0:29:23.729 because mama would be saying, boy, what's wrong with you? 0:29:23.770 --> 0:29:24.890 Didn't you tell anybody? 0:29:26.970 --> 0:29:29.810 Yeah, I got to tell you something, Phillip. That's moving man. 0:29:29.970 --> 0:29:34.130 That is absolutely moving. Thanks for calling in this morning. 0:29:34.770 --> 0:29:38.370 Those two stories rattle my cage. 0:29:38.410 --> 0:29:40.490 Wow. You all day long. 0:29:40.530 --> 0:29:47.170 Oh my goodness. Oh, I don't even have words for that. 0:29:49.730 --> 0:29:50.090 No. 0:29:50.450 --> 0:29:52.690 I don't know what you're up against today, but the 0:29:52.690 --> 0:29:55.330 reason we've got the Hall of Fame of faith in 0:29:55.370 --> 0:30:00.890 Hebrews 11. It's for one specific reason to keep going, 0:30:02.290 --> 0:30:05.370 to keep going. It's why it's there, guys. It's why 0:30:05.370 --> 0:30:11.810 it's there. Yeah. I mean, in Hebrews 12 one. I 0:30:12.610 --> 0:30:15.290 forget talking about it. Let me open it and read it. 0:30:15.330 --> 0:30:18.290 I mean, this is this is what we're called to 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.760 do and to be. And sometimes, sometimes we get a 0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.800 glimpse of this and we go, oh my goodness, a 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:27.800 hall of fame of faith. Therefore, since we are surrounded 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.920 by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also 0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.880 lay aside every weight and sin which clings so closely, 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.760 and let us run with endurance the race that is 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:43.800 set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:47.400 of our faith, who for the joy that was set 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:51.880 before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.800 seated at the right hand of the throne of God. 0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:01.640 The reason we have Hebrews 11 is because we've got 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.560 a call on our life of Hebrews 12. And that's 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:08.320 to run the race well. Hebrews 11 is there to 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.040 inspire us and keep us going when it feels like 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:15.320 we just can't do it anymore. And we had two 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.460 stories here, back to back that if that doesn't put 0:31:18.500 --> 0:31:22.500 fuel in your belly. Well, of course it does. Of 0:31:22.500 --> 0:31:26.380 course it does. God had an appointment here this morning, 0:31:26.380 --> 0:31:28.540 didn't he? Guys, God had an appointment. 0:31:28.580 --> 0:31:29.220 Always. 0:31:29.420 --> 0:31:32.620 This. This just proves that every once in a while, 0:31:32.620 --> 0:31:34.900 we keep in step with the Holy Spirit around here 0:31:34.900 --> 0:31:37.219 on the topics that we want to tackle. Because the 0:31:37.220 --> 0:31:42.060 fruit was born out of that big time 11 11th 0:31:42.060 --> 0:31:47.540 child on the way. Husband dies. Raises them all alone. 0:31:47.700 --> 0:31:55.540 Are you kidding me? Another mom with a disability? That 0:31:55.540 --> 0:32:01.420 would be discouraging to most gospel. Always on her lips. 0:32:01.740 --> 0:32:08.540 Raising two boys alone. My goodness, is our God able? 0:32:10.260 --> 0:32:10.980 He's able. 0:32:11.900 --> 0:32:21.050 Did you ever know that you're my hero? And everything 0:32:21.050 --> 0:32:30.450 I would like to be. I can fly higher than 0:32:30.450 --> 0:32:39.170 any of. You are the wind beneath my wings. 0:32:41.450 --> 0:32:45.530 What'd you see your mom overcome that inspired you? Moms 0:32:45.530 --> 0:32:50.090 can be so inspiring. What do you think, Allie? 0:32:50.250 --> 0:32:52.410 You know, there's a specific story that stands out in 0:32:52.410 --> 0:32:54.930 my memory. My mom. There was a season of time 0:32:54.930 --> 0:32:57.690 where she was a home daycare provider. And so we 0:32:57.690 --> 0:33:00.180 would welcome anywhere from, like, I don't know, 5 or 0:33:00.180 --> 0:33:01.970 6 kids. And they would come and they would spend 0:33:01.970 --> 0:33:04.530 the whole day with us while their parents were working. 0:33:04.530 --> 0:33:07.050 And that was her way of providing helping provide for 0:33:07.050 --> 0:33:10.370 our family. And so there was one particular family that 0:33:10.370 --> 0:33:12.410 had made an agreement with my mom that she was 0:33:12.410 --> 0:33:14.830 going to watch their son for a period of time, 0:33:15.030 --> 0:33:17.750 and at the last minute they kind of bailed and 0:33:17.750 --> 0:33:19.990 left my mom in a lurch. And so she tried 0:33:19.990 --> 0:33:22.230 to come to an agreement for the payment that she 0:33:22.230 --> 0:33:25.710 was owed. And the the dad was, was very dismissive. 0:33:25.710 --> 0:33:27.590 And he said, I'm not going to pay you. She 0:33:27.590 --> 0:33:28.910 was like, well, what do you mean you're not going 0:33:28.910 --> 0:33:31.150 to pay me? You you made this commitment. We had 0:33:31.150 --> 0:33:34.350 an agreement. And so it kind of escalated. And he 0:33:34.350 --> 0:33:37.510 was very he said, I'm not paying you. And she goes, well, 0:33:37.510 --> 0:33:39.030 I'm going to I'm going to have to take you 0:33:39.030 --> 0:33:41.790 to court to get the payment. And he said, you're 0:33:41.790 --> 0:33:44.270 a home daycare provider. The judge is going to laugh 0:33:44.270 --> 0:33:48.910 you out of court. So my mom was like, oh, okay. 0:33:49.470 --> 0:33:51.790 So I remember on the day of the court hearing, 0:33:51.790 --> 0:33:53.350 I had to go stay at my grandma's house. I 0:33:53.350 --> 0:33:55.630 didn't get to go to court, but I remember being 0:33:55.630 --> 0:33:58.070 in the backyard. I can picture the swing set, the 0:33:58.070 --> 0:34:01.270 little boneyard ditch that ran along the backyard, this little 0:34:01.270 --> 0:34:04.470 creek and my grandma's yard. And I remember seeing my 0:34:04.470 --> 0:34:07.790 mom walk forward in her suit by the hedges, and 0:34:07.790 --> 0:34:10.870 we could see on her face as she emerged. She 0:34:10.910 --> 0:34:14.980 had one. We knew it. Yes, she had been victorious. 0:34:15.620 --> 0:34:17.340 In small claims court. 0:34:17.540 --> 0:34:20.180 Against this man who said, the judge is going to 0:34:20.219 --> 0:34:22.819 laugh you out of court and I don't. That for 0:34:22.820 --> 0:34:25.380 me was such a core memory. My mom was a fighter. 0:34:25.460 --> 0:34:27.540 She stood up for what was right, and she never 0:34:27.540 --> 0:34:31.939 let someone diminish her because of her position or what 0:34:31.940 --> 0:34:34.940 they thought she lacked. And that stuck with me. My 0:34:34.940 --> 0:34:37.420 mom was an overcomer. I was so proud of her. 0:34:38.660 --> 0:34:39.460 So many people would. 0:34:39.500 --> 0:34:42.219 Have caved at that moment. Yeah, I'd say nine out 0:34:42.260 --> 0:34:45.580 of ten would have caved and said, yeah, we'll let 0:34:45.580 --> 0:34:48.540 this one go. That's so good. And it was frankly 0:34:48.540 --> 0:34:50.140 healthy for the dude who lost. 0:34:50.140 --> 0:34:51.180 It was he. 0:34:51.180 --> 0:34:54.660 Needed he in that moment. He needed the humbling of going, no, 0:34:54.660 --> 0:34:57.260 I can't just treat people any kind of way. 0:34:58.580 --> 0:35:00.340 And he put it up in her face. 0:35:00.380 --> 0:35:01.660 You're a home daycare provider. 0:35:01.660 --> 0:35:03.220 The judge will laugh you out of court. 0:35:05.219 --> 0:35:09.820 I'm sorry, but sometimes overcoming stories make you go, yes. 0:35:11.530 --> 0:35:12.650 You know what I'm saying? 0:35:13.730 --> 0:35:14.250 Yes. 0:35:15.090 --> 0:35:19.130 Yes. Yes, mom! Get him! Mom! Of course. You did 0:35:19.730 --> 0:35:20.450 so great. 0:35:20.489 --> 0:35:23.850 Oh my goodness! What do you got? Super nice. Something 0:35:23.890 --> 0:35:24.530 on your heart? 0:35:24.930 --> 0:35:27.210 Yeah, I remember my mom especially talking when she was younger. 0:35:27.210 --> 0:35:31.450 She really overcame what would probably be decades and ages 0:35:31.450 --> 0:35:35.410 of just family culture for her. She was the oldest 0:35:35.410 --> 0:35:37.969 of four daughters, yet she was the third one to 0:35:37.969 --> 0:35:40.890 get married. And she actually pushed to go to college, 0:35:41.410 --> 0:35:44.090 which was I know, sounds like what. But for her, 0:35:44.130 --> 0:35:47.370 that was a very huge deal to stand up to 0:35:47.410 --> 0:35:51.850 this very Greek family, you know, firstborn daughter should have 0:35:51.850 --> 0:35:54.170 been married. This is who you're supposed to be married to. 0:35:54.210 --> 0:35:56.650 She said, no, I'm not going to marry. I'm not 0:35:56.650 --> 0:35:58.890 going to marry that person, at least right now. And 0:35:58.890 --> 0:36:00.690 I want to go to school. And it was it 0:36:00.690 --> 0:36:04.049 was a huge fight. It caused a lot of of 0:36:04.050 --> 0:36:07.210 walls to go up for a very, very long time. 0:36:07.210 --> 0:36:09.690 But she went to school. She got a couple years. 0:36:09.690 --> 0:36:12.190 I had talked about her being, you know, a phenomenal 0:36:12.190 --> 0:36:14.910 secretary and things like that, and she earned those skills 0:36:14.910 --> 0:36:17.549 and even worked in Chicago for a while. But for 0:36:17.550 --> 0:36:22.230 her to take that step back then was huge. And 0:36:22.270 --> 0:36:25.990 I just thought very brave to do. Very brave to do. Awesome. 0:36:26.030 --> 0:36:27.750 It was a very big deal at that time. 0:36:28.150 --> 0:36:33.470 Yeah. My my mama kind of broke a tradition. It's funny. Uh, 0:36:33.830 --> 0:36:37.589 one of the, you know, there's unspoken traditions. Sometimes it's 0:36:37.590 --> 0:36:40.630 like these. This is kind of the code. Well, there 0:36:40.630 --> 0:36:44.390 was a Johnson code back in the day. In fact, 0:36:44.390 --> 0:36:46.790 I was out at an event here last night talking 0:36:46.790 --> 0:36:49.590 with some women that were about my, you know, nearing 0:36:49.590 --> 0:36:51.989 my mom's age. She passed on and went with the 0:36:51.989 --> 0:36:54.710 Lord here a year and a half ago. Two years ago. Um, 0:36:55.469 --> 0:36:58.989 but my mom was raised in Chicago, was down here 0:36:58.989 --> 0:37:02.029 on the Moody campus. My grandma sang on air a 0:37:02.030 --> 0:37:05.310 lot down here. Live. Isn't that wild, guys? My grandma did. 0:37:05.310 --> 0:37:07.110 That. Crazy. That full circle, man. 0:37:07.270 --> 0:37:10.339 But what's really interesting is so my mom goes to 0:37:10.380 --> 0:37:13.180 Southern Cal because my grandpa couldn't handle the cold of Chicago, 0:37:13.180 --> 0:37:16.620 and he went and actually started a whole chain of 0:37:17.219 --> 0:37:22.820 gas stations for Atlantic Richfield Company. And so they moved 0:37:22.820 --> 0:37:25.620 to Southern Cal. And my dad and mom met at 0:37:25.620 --> 0:37:30.980 a rose parade. Lo and behold. And my dad saw 0:37:30.980 --> 0:37:33.379 my mom and had the same experience I had with 0:37:33.380 --> 0:37:36.100 my bride, Jubes. I'm like, that is God's will for 0:37:36.100 --> 0:37:39.460 my life right there. And my dad looked at mom 0:37:39.500 --> 0:37:42.660 and he called her Eva. And he said, Eva, I 0:37:42.700 --> 0:37:46.260 want to marry you. And they were married, but they 0:37:46.380 --> 0:37:49.140 they broke the code. And the code was you stay 0:37:49.180 --> 0:37:52.299 near family. But my dad and mom had a real 0:37:52.300 --> 0:37:55.500 missionary mindset. And they moved to Alaska before it was 0:37:55.500 --> 0:37:58.620 a state. So they were breaking codes. Kind of like 0:37:58.620 --> 0:38:01.980 your mama, super dad. They were breaking a code. And 0:38:02.219 --> 0:38:05.739 and for years as a young boy and then into 0:38:05.780 --> 0:38:08.839 my teen years growing up, my mom would get cards 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.279 that my family. I'll go ahead and say it. My 0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.839 grandma used as an opportunity to take a shot at 0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.000 the code that was broken. You get what. 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:18.719 I'm saying, I got it. 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.280 Exactly. Yes. 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.520 And my mom would just cry, and my dad would 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.799 put his arm around her. And, I mean, it was 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.040 hard for her because she didn't want to break her 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.560 mom's heart. Didn't want to break code. But, boy, they 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.840 were called to Alaska before it was a state to 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:38.160 be missionaries. Tentmakers my dad had his teaching degree, ultimately 0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:42.879 became a principal. The state became a state and it 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.840 was a mission field. My dad did great work across 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.240 the state of Alaska. My mom paid a price for 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:53.760 it and full circle on that one. Guys is my 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.960 my dad. As you can imagine, he was the chief 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.160 villain because he broke the he ultimately. 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:00.640 Broke the. 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:01.320 Code, right? 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.400 Exactly. He stole her. Yeah. 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:04.759 You're the problem. 0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.989 Took her away. And? they had to be fair with 0:39:07.989 --> 0:39:10.790 my grandma and grandpa. They had a mixed feeling because 0:39:10.790 --> 0:39:15.230 they they loved God and they understood missions. But it's like. 0:39:15.230 --> 0:39:16.910 But not my kid, you know? 0:39:17.190 --> 0:39:17.790 Yeah, sure. 0:39:18.510 --> 0:39:21.590 Here am I send someone else from another family structure. 0:39:21.630 --> 0:39:23.150 Especially the daughter. Like you're taking. 0:39:23.150 --> 0:39:23.629 Her? Yeah. 0:39:23.670 --> 0:39:28.189 You know, and and she was the firstborn. And so it's, like, 0:39:28.230 --> 0:39:31.830 really breaking the code. Yeah. Uh, but what an amazing 0:39:31.870 --> 0:39:36.029 thing to see in my own dad. Mom. The inspiration 0:39:36.030 --> 0:39:40.190 that they were to me. My grandma was ultimately bad. 0:39:40.190 --> 0:39:43.510 Health at a time in her life. Lay in latter years. 0:39:43.950 --> 0:39:47.069 My grandpa had passed away. And none, none of the 0:39:47.070 --> 0:39:50.070 other siblings could take my grandma. So guess where grandma 0:39:50.070 --> 0:39:50.870 had to move. 0:39:51.070 --> 0:39:52.590 Alaska to Alaska. 0:39:52.630 --> 0:39:53.830 She had to move to Alaska. 0:39:53.870 --> 0:39:54.109 Wow. 0:39:54.150 --> 0:39:54.590 Wow. 0:39:55.350 --> 0:39:59.270 The very place that she probably loathed for all those years. 0:39:59.790 --> 0:40:02.790 And one day I walk into the home I'm working 0:40:02.790 --> 0:40:05.130 in the oil fields of Alaska. Came down for a break, 0:40:05.130 --> 0:40:07.650 walked into the home and said, hey, where's, uh, where's dad? 0:40:07.690 --> 0:40:10.330 Mom said, oh, he's around the corner taking care of grandma. 0:40:10.370 --> 0:40:12.610 I walk around the corner, my dad's changing my grandma's 0:40:12.610 --> 0:40:16.290 diaper and I mean cleaning up a mess. And by 0:40:16.290 --> 0:40:19.450 this time, she didn't have her faculties at all. And 0:40:19.450 --> 0:40:23.930 I thought, wow, what an inspirational thing. That's my dad 0:40:23.930 --> 0:40:29.609 and mom overcoming. But it's inspiring when people overcome. It's 0:40:29.610 --> 0:40:33.170 a beautiful thing, man, and that's forever etched in my mind. 0:40:33.210 --> 0:40:36.169 The tears of my mom, the servanthood of my dad 0:40:36.170 --> 0:40:39.170 and mom, and the love that they showed, even when 0:40:39.690 --> 0:40:43.370 maybe reasonable people would have said, you don't have to 0:40:43.370 --> 0:40:46.250 do that. They said, yeah, because of Christ in us, 0:40:46.250 --> 0:40:50.570 we we do and we will. And it's just a 0:40:50.610 --> 0:40:55.690 beautiful thing. I don't know what that does for you, 0:40:55.690 --> 0:40:59.689 but the book of Hebrews illustrates that it's inspiration in 0:40:59.690 --> 0:41:02.410 the Hall of Fame of faith are overcomers, and we 0:41:02.410 --> 0:41:03.890 can as well today.