1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,920 S1: Oh, what a great Friday topic. Get your popcorn ready. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,559 S1: We are going to the movies. A Kendrick Brothers movie. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,360 S1: There's a new one coming out in two weeks. I 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,240 S1: want you to hear about it. I also have a 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,040 S1: couple of questions for you, and this is your opportunity 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,000 S1: to talk with Stephen Kendrick and tell him what these 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,440 S1: films have done on the inside. Question one what moment 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,760 S1: or scene in a Kendrick Brothers film do you still 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,559 S1: remember what stuck with you? Question two what character in 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,320 S1: their films did you identify with? Do you have an 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,000 S1: answer for that? Basically, tell me the difference a Kendrick 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,640 S1: Brothers film has made in your life or in the 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,479 S1: life of somebody that you know, somebody you took to 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,239 S1: the theater and they saw this and it made a 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,720 S1: big difference. Eight, seven, 754836, seven five. Today's the day 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,160 S1: I may get you to call this topic might push 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:58,360 S1: you over the edge. Let us hear from you. (877) 548-3675. 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,170 S1: Thanking our team. Ryan McConaughey doing all things technical. Trish 19 00:01:01,170 --> 00:01:03,930 S1: is our producer. Lisa's in the chair. Josh will be 20 00:01:03,930 --> 00:01:06,690 S1: answering your calls. And since it's Friday. That's right. It's 21 00:01:06,690 --> 00:01:10,050 S1: time for the fabulous Fabry Friday. Sy what does it do? 22 00:01:10,090 --> 00:01:13,330 S1: Chris I'll tell you. One. We oxygenate your blood. Two, 23 00:01:13,370 --> 00:01:16,490 S1: we get your endorphins going. Three, we raise your serotonin. 24 00:01:16,490 --> 00:01:20,209 S1: Level four, we promote lymphatic drainage. And. Five, we stimulate 25 00:01:20,209 --> 00:01:23,930 S1: the parasympathetic system. That's all we call the five lung languages. 26 00:01:24,090 --> 00:01:27,690 S1: We also stimulate your vagus nerve. We help you release acetylcholine. 27 00:01:27,690 --> 00:01:31,450 S1: And don't you dare forget what it does to cortisol dissipation. 28 00:01:31,490 --> 00:01:33,810 S1: Taking four seconds of air through your nose right now. 29 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:37,330 S1: Hold it for seconds. And then as you release that 30 00:01:37,330 --> 00:01:39,289 S1: air through your mouth, push on the left side of 31 00:01:39,290 --> 00:01:41,250 S1: your rib cage to get rid of all that bad 32 00:01:41,250 --> 00:01:44,809 S1: carbon dioxide. Give a sigh today for Miss Clara from 33 00:01:44,810 --> 00:01:48,730 S1: War Room, for Elizabeth, for the pickle that Tony was in. 34 00:01:48,730 --> 00:01:51,450 S1: Or give a sigh for Hannah Scott, who ran alone 35 00:01:51,450 --> 00:01:53,970 S1: on her cross country team, and her dad, whose voice 36 00:01:53,970 --> 00:01:57,890 S1: made a difference. That was from the film overcomer. Perhaps 37 00:01:57,890 --> 00:01:59,900 S1: the scene that stuck with you is the same one 38 00:01:59,900 --> 00:02:03,020 S1: that Jackie mentioned. When she answered this, she said the 39 00:02:03,020 --> 00:02:05,660 S1: death crawl scene in Facing the Giants. Did you see 40 00:02:05,660 --> 00:02:09,380 S1: that one? Fireproof. Courageous. The forged life marks Show Me 41 00:02:09,380 --> 00:02:12,419 S1: the Father or their first film. That's finding new life 42 00:02:12,419 --> 00:02:16,540 S1: in two weeks. Flywheel. That is fabulous. Favorite Friday size 43 00:02:16,540 --> 00:02:20,140 S1: brought to you by movies that make a difference. All 44 00:02:20,180 --> 00:02:23,579 S1: rights reserved. No trailers were harmed in the making of 45 00:02:23,580 --> 00:02:25,900 S1: today's Friday. Hi, how are you doing, friend? Are you 46 00:02:25,900 --> 00:02:28,859 S1: ready for the first Friday in October? This is going 47 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:32,260 S1: to be fun conversation with one of the most encouraging 48 00:02:32,260 --> 00:02:35,220 S1: people I have ever met. His name is Stephen Kendrick. 49 00:02:35,220 --> 00:02:38,700 S1: He is co-writer for the screenplays and the books producer 50 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:42,740 S1: for the Kendrick Brothers Films, co-founder and board member of 51 00:02:42,740 --> 00:02:47,100 S1: the Fatherhood Commission, graduate of Kennesaw State University. I didn't 52 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:51,740 S1: know that before this. Attended seminary before being ordained. He 53 00:02:51,740 --> 00:02:55,380 S1: and his wife, Jill, have six children. They live in Albany, Georgia. 54 00:02:55,860 --> 00:02:57,760 S1: The film coming out in two weeks. Have you heard 55 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,480 S1: about it? Flywheel. Ignition of the soul. We have a 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,400 S1: link at Chris Fabry live.org. Stephen Kendrick, welcome back. How 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,320 S1: are you doing today? 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,919 S2: Doing great Chris, you're cracking me up here. I'm doing 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,640 S2: the Friday. Sigh and I'm like, that is one of 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,960 S2: the most clever introductions I've ever heard. 61 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,720 S1: So you've got to push on the left side of 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,959 S1: your rib cage, friend. You gotta get that bad carbon dioxide. 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,960 S2: Yeah, I'm feeling the endorphins. 64 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,520 S1: Don't forget cortisol dissipation either. Okay, so let me start 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,680 S1: with that question I'm asking my listeners today. Is there 66 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,519 S1: a scene is there a moment from the Kendrick Brothers film? 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,240 S1: You've been so close to this, but step back a 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,920 S1: little bit. Is there something that immediately comes to mind 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,320 S1: that you think, oh, I really resonated with that. 70 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,200 S2: You're talking about me. 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,040 S1: Yes. 72 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:50,320 S2: Oh man. Every film, something somewhere. It's interesting that we'll 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,240 S2: spend months in prayer and God will give Alex usually 74 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,130 S2: an emotional scene in his head, and we'll build so 75 00:03:58,130 --> 00:04:01,130 S2: much of the movie around it. And, uh, with with 76 00:04:01,130 --> 00:04:04,850 S2: every film, you know, that there was that starter spark 77 00:04:04,850 --> 00:04:07,410 S2: of a scene. And so with overcomer, it was the 78 00:04:07,410 --> 00:04:11,290 S2: dad coaching the daughter in that final race with, uh, courageous. 79 00:04:11,330 --> 00:04:15,050 S2: It was the dad dancing with his daughter underneath the tree. Uh, 80 00:04:15,170 --> 00:04:19,770 S2: that whole emotional scene facing the giants was the fearful kicker. 81 00:04:20,050 --> 00:04:23,170 S2: 51 yards is the championship game and he can't kick. 82 00:04:23,170 --> 00:04:27,130 S2: And then his dad pulls himself up in the wheelchair 83 00:04:27,130 --> 00:04:31,050 S2: on the fence and lifts his arms and says, don't stand. 84 00:04:31,250 --> 00:04:34,490 S2: Don't touch me. I'm standing for my son. That scene 85 00:04:34,730 --> 00:04:38,490 S2: was a was really a demonstration of our earthly father, 86 00:04:38,490 --> 00:04:42,210 S2: Larry Kendrick, because he was named Larry, uh, like in 87 00:04:42,210 --> 00:04:45,089 S2: the movie. And then he was in a wheelchair with 88 00:04:45,089 --> 00:04:48,210 S2: multiple sclerosis. And that's the kind of support he gave 89 00:04:48,210 --> 00:04:51,969 S2: us when we were overwhelmed is that he would he 90 00:04:51,970 --> 00:04:54,380 S2: would lift his arms and pray for us and stand 91 00:04:54,380 --> 00:04:57,220 S2: in the gap. Even does it now at 84 years 92 00:04:57,220 --> 00:05:00,859 S2: of age and just so grateful for that godly heritage. 93 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:04,060 S1: Did you know this is what you wanted? Did you 94 00:05:04,060 --> 00:05:07,420 S1: have a vision when you were younger, or even, you know, 95 00:05:07,460 --> 00:05:10,580 S1: going to Kennesaw or Seminary that this was going to 96 00:05:10,580 --> 00:05:11,860 S1: be where you'd wind up? 97 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:17,020 S2: No. Uh, Alex, when he saw Raiders of the Lost 98 00:05:17,020 --> 00:05:19,540 S2: Ark as a 12 year old. And it terrified him 99 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:23,299 S2: and excited him in the theater, he was thinking, I 100 00:05:23,300 --> 00:05:27,180 S2: must do this one day. And I didn't realize it, 101 00:05:27,180 --> 00:05:31,180 S2: but looking back, our father would use Billy Graham movies 102 00:05:31,460 --> 00:05:34,860 S2: to spread the gospel. So he was promoting, you know, 103 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:39,219 S2: Crossing the Switchblade and Johnny and the Hiding Place. And 104 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:43,180 S2: so those movies were impacting people of that generation. And 105 00:05:43,180 --> 00:05:46,820 S2: we were little kids watching those movies, and they were 106 00:05:46,820 --> 00:05:49,940 S2: bigger than life to us, because our parents took away 107 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:53,190 S2: television in those early years because there was so much 108 00:05:53,190 --> 00:05:56,030 S2: garbage on television and it forced us to be creative. 109 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:58,310 S2: But when we did get to see a movie, it 110 00:05:58,310 --> 00:06:01,789 S2: was huge in front of us and very emotional. And 111 00:06:01,830 --> 00:06:05,070 S2: I remember watching The Cross and the switchblade, when David 112 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:08,590 S2: Wilkerson's is preaching the gospel to the gangs in New 113 00:06:08,630 --> 00:06:12,270 S2: York City and thinking, I never want to do drugs 114 00:06:12,270 --> 00:06:16,589 S2: because I'm watching these people hooked on heroin, freaking out, 115 00:06:16,630 --> 00:06:20,750 S2: you know? But looking back, the Lord was prepping us 116 00:06:20,750 --> 00:06:24,270 S2: all along. I just wanted to follow the Lord, you know, 117 00:06:24,310 --> 00:06:28,150 S2: that our parents were prayer warriors, and we saw so 118 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:31,150 S2: many answers to prayer in our lives. We fell in 119 00:06:31,150 --> 00:06:33,910 S2: love with Jesus and His Word, and I just wanted 120 00:06:33,910 --> 00:06:36,310 S2: God to put me somewhere, you know, put me in 121 00:06:36,310 --> 00:06:37,030 S2: coach somewhere. 122 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:40,150 S1: Put me in coach. Yeah. That's interesting. Because of the, 123 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:43,910 S1: the flow of the program this week has been on 124 00:06:43,910 --> 00:06:47,109 S1: on Tuesday, we talked about every table, an altar, how 125 00:06:47,470 --> 00:06:52,080 S1: getting back to face to face communication, having Conversations with 126 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,720 S1: the family or with somebody who's not a believer, and 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,039 S1: you just kind of open up that kind of. So 128 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,520 S1: we talked about the power of that yesterday. We talked 129 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,080 S1: about having a tech reset and, and removing the phones, 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,320 S1: the tablets, all that kind of stuff, and getting back 131 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,560 S1: to face to face. And then you tell the story 132 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,360 S1: about your parents. And this was probably 1970s you're talking about. 133 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,400 S2: That's right, that's right. 134 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,200 S1: Taken, taken the TV out of the mix. And what 135 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,800 S1: that did for you creatively, it made you have to 136 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,600 S1: come up with creativity yourself, right? 137 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:32,920 S2: Absolutely. Boredom is the starting place of creativity. And this 138 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,600 S2: tech savvy generation, if they have two seconds of boredom, 139 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,680 S2: they pull their phone out and so their brains are 140 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,520 S2: not given the opportunity to spark some new idea. The 141 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,360 S2: world is telling them what to think with brain rot 142 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,010 S2: scrolling all the time. But those early years, for us, 143 00:07:51,010 --> 00:07:53,530 S2: it was running around in the backyard, you know, pretending 144 00:07:53,570 --> 00:07:57,370 S2: to be pirates, you know? Alex and I would watch 145 00:07:57,530 --> 00:07:59,730 S2: the few movies that we did, and then we would 146 00:07:59,730 --> 00:08:04,970 S2: take our VHS suitcase camera and run around in our neighborhood, 147 00:08:05,210 --> 00:08:07,050 S2: and we'd run out the door saying, what are we 148 00:08:07,090 --> 00:08:09,890 S2: going to film? And most of them were just chase 149 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:12,810 S2: them down, beat them up, you know, and they were silly. 150 00:08:13,170 --> 00:08:17,170 S2: But we were learning storytelling and having to be creative. 151 00:08:17,290 --> 00:08:20,330 S2: And Alex was usually the storyteller. He'd come up with 152 00:08:20,330 --> 00:08:22,290 S2: the stunt idea and then he'd tell me, all right, 153 00:08:22,290 --> 00:08:24,930 S2: you go do it. And so that's kind of how 154 00:08:24,930 --> 00:08:25,610 S2: we began. 155 00:08:26,250 --> 00:08:29,370 S1: Have you seen the Spielberg thing for when he was making, 156 00:08:29,410 --> 00:08:32,689 S1: you know, the early stuff when he was a kid 157 00:08:32,690 --> 00:08:35,170 S1: and how he would shoot a Western and and they 158 00:08:35,170 --> 00:08:38,330 S1: would put a little stick in under the, under the 159 00:08:38,330 --> 00:08:40,650 S1: dirt so that when they stepped on it, it looks like, 160 00:08:40,690 --> 00:08:42,890 S1: you know, the, the gun would fire. And, you know, 161 00:08:42,929 --> 00:08:46,410 S1: it goes, oh yeah, like that. That's the kind of 162 00:08:46,450 --> 00:08:49,700 S1: thing that I see you brother's doing now? You've got 163 00:08:49,740 --> 00:08:53,260 S1: you're talking about Alex, but you also have an older brother, Shannon, right? 164 00:08:53,660 --> 00:09:00,020 S2: Yes. Shannon was the introverted, computer savvy, uh, super smart 165 00:09:00,020 --> 00:09:02,420 S2: with his money brother. He did not want to be 166 00:09:02,420 --> 00:09:05,580 S2: on stage. And even now he works with us and 167 00:09:05,580 --> 00:09:09,179 S2: that's what he does. He's our computer specialist, manages all 168 00:09:09,179 --> 00:09:12,380 S2: the finances, doesn't want to be interviewed, but he loves 169 00:09:12,380 --> 00:09:16,059 S2: the Lord, loves his family, and he's constantly helping us 170 00:09:16,059 --> 00:09:16,980 S2: behind the scenes. 171 00:09:16,980 --> 00:09:18,980 S1: He's the handsome one, right? Right. 172 00:09:18,980 --> 00:09:20,380 S2: That's right. That's what we call him. 173 00:09:21,580 --> 00:09:24,140 S1: Okay, so Stephen Kendrick is with us. There is a 174 00:09:24,140 --> 00:09:27,620 S1: new iteration of flywheel. That was the very first I 175 00:09:27,620 --> 00:09:30,860 S1: want to talk about the very first film that you released, 176 00:09:30,860 --> 00:09:34,580 S1: and what happened with that. Now, all these years later, 177 00:09:34,580 --> 00:09:38,380 S1: there is a new flywheel, ignition of the soul. And 178 00:09:38,380 --> 00:09:41,660 S1: there's a huge backstory of that. But my guess is 179 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:45,780 S1: there's somebody listening today who said, I remember in War 180 00:09:45,780 --> 00:09:49,760 S1: Room or I remember in courageous or in fireproof. This 181 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,160 S1: is the thing. And I still remember the feeling of 182 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,800 S1: being in that theatre. Or I took my husband to 183 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,360 S1: this or my, my brother or my cousin and something 184 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,880 S1: happened in their life. If you have a story like 185 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,960 S1: that that you've always wanted to tell one of the 186 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:15,240 S1: Kendrick brothers, today is your day. Eight. 7754836758775483675. Flywheel. Ignition 187 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,280 S1: of the soul comes out in two weeks. We have 188 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,480 S1: a link. You can see it. You can see the 189 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:25,080 S1: trailer right there. Chris Fabry live.org. Chris Fabry live dot ORG. 190 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:37,360 S1: More straight ahead. The Kendrick brothers are at it again. 191 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,320 S1: Flywheel ignition of the soul comes out in two weeks. 192 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,440 S1: I want you to hear the behind the scenes story 193 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,170 S1: from Stephen Kendrick today and to give you an opportunity 194 00:10:46,490 --> 00:10:52,170 S1: to tell Steven what a difference their films have made 195 00:10:52,170 --> 00:10:54,250 S1: in your life. You have a story like that. I 196 00:10:54,250 --> 00:10:57,090 S1: want to hear from you. Linda mentioned the same thing 197 00:10:57,090 --> 00:10:59,410 S1: that you talked about a minute ago, and I want 198 00:10:59,410 --> 00:11:02,170 S1: you to go into this, Linda said. For me, it 199 00:11:02,170 --> 00:11:04,050 S1: was when the dad got out of his car and 200 00:11:04,050 --> 00:11:09,290 S1: danced with his daughter. That was a lost opportunity. Redeemed. 201 00:11:09,330 --> 00:11:12,250 S1: Tell me more about that. The first the what's the 202 00:11:12,250 --> 00:11:14,849 S1: film that that was in courageous. 203 00:11:15,250 --> 00:11:23,290 S2: Okay. Yeah. Alex was praying through after fireproof on storylines 204 00:11:23,290 --> 00:11:26,290 S2: for a future film, and he kept seeing these four 205 00:11:26,290 --> 00:11:31,410 S2: fathers that all had different father journeys themselves and just 206 00:11:31,410 --> 00:11:34,890 S2: working together as police officers. But one of them, uh, 207 00:11:34,929 --> 00:11:38,410 S2: his daughter, was begging him to dance with her up 208 00:11:38,410 --> 00:11:40,449 S2: underneath a tree while they were sitting in a bank 209 00:11:40,490 --> 00:11:43,410 S2: waiting for a friend to come out, and he didn't 210 00:11:43,410 --> 00:11:45,380 S2: want to do it. He was embarrassed. He didn't want 211 00:11:45,380 --> 00:11:49,260 S2: to be seen publicly. And she's nine years old, you know. 212 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:53,020 S2: Begging him, please dance with me. Well, then she passes 213 00:11:53,020 --> 00:11:55,740 S2: away in the middle of the film, and he looks 214 00:11:55,740 --> 00:12:00,860 S2: back with deep regret that he never redeemed that moment 215 00:12:00,860 --> 00:12:04,819 S2: that he had. And so, um, you see him later 216 00:12:04,820 --> 00:12:08,380 S2: on in the movie, go back to that bank and 217 00:12:08,380 --> 00:12:12,900 S2: dance by himself. And it's very, it's very emotional. 218 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:15,900 S3: Um, just telling it, just telling it. It's hard to 219 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:16,660 S3: tell it, isn't it? 220 00:12:16,660 --> 00:12:19,260 S2: Yeah. And I helped make right make the movie and 221 00:12:19,260 --> 00:12:22,459 S2: it still gets me choked up. But basically he's just 222 00:12:22,460 --> 00:12:26,100 S2: imagining that moment again. And at the end he says, God, 223 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:28,540 S2: will you will you tell her that I did my 224 00:12:28,540 --> 00:12:34,500 S2: side of the dance? And, uh, it's that movie hits dads, 225 00:12:34,940 --> 00:12:39,140 S2: but it also calls on them to redeem the rest 226 00:12:39,140 --> 00:12:42,660 S2: of their lives as a father and to get involved. 227 00:12:42,990 --> 00:12:47,310 S2: And that regret is part of the the repentance, I 228 00:12:47,350 --> 00:12:49,790 S2: guess you could say that could come about saying, I've 229 00:12:49,830 --> 00:12:51,950 S2: got to make the most of the time I have left. 230 00:12:52,190 --> 00:12:54,310 S1: That is a recurring theme, I think, in all of 231 00:12:54,309 --> 00:12:59,070 S1: your movies, there's something about the father in every film 232 00:12:59,070 --> 00:13:03,110 S1: that you've done, the father who doesn't measure up. And no, 233 00:13:03,110 --> 00:13:05,670 S1: he doesn't and he wants to, but he can't. And 234 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:08,189 S1: the difference that God makes in his life. Right? 235 00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:09,709 S3: Well, our. 236 00:13:09,710 --> 00:13:13,309 S2: Own dad had had such a huge impact on us, 237 00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:17,630 S2: and he grew up with a seven foot tall father 238 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:22,590 S2: that dealt with alcoholism in those early years. And he 239 00:13:22,590 --> 00:13:25,790 S2: longed for that close relationship with his dad to take 240 00:13:25,790 --> 00:13:28,630 S2: him fishing and spend time with him. But sometimes dad 241 00:13:28,630 --> 00:13:31,390 S2: wouldn't come home at night, you know? And so when 242 00:13:31,390 --> 00:13:34,990 S2: our father came to Christ, he said, the buck stops here. 243 00:13:34,990 --> 00:13:38,150 S2: He said, as for me and my house, we will 244 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:41,350 S2: serve the Lord. I'm going to do for my sons 245 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:44,400 S2: and my kids, what I wished my dad had done 246 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,199 S2: for me. And so he got really involved in our lives, 247 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,680 S2: was modeling scripture, you know, would would do activities with us, 248 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:57,439 S2: would bless us verbally. And he was unhindered in communicating 249 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,360 S2: love to us. But it was follow me as I 250 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,240 S2: follow Christ when we were growing up. And, and we 251 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,959 S2: see so many people don't have that. So we, we 252 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,199 S2: have tried to communicate in just about every movie the 253 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,520 S2: importance of fathers. 254 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,679 S1: Sharonda is in Cleveland. Sharonda sign in here. What do 255 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,440 S1: you want to say? 256 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,280 S4: Hello. Um, thank you for taking my call. The one 257 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:26,520 S4: line that has always got to me was from facing 258 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,520 S4: the Giants. It's my favorite Kendrick movie. And the line is, 259 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,320 S4: I'm preparing for rain. 260 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,120 S3: Why? 261 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,200 S1: Sharonda? Why does that stick with you? 262 00:14:39,380 --> 00:14:44,380 S4: Because it just it it would just speak to me. 263 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:49,020 S4: Just letting me know there's always hope. You just you 264 00:14:49,180 --> 00:14:53,940 S4: need more faith. And it's not always our timing. God 265 00:14:54,620 --> 00:14:58,340 S4: takes care of you when and how he wants to 266 00:14:58,340 --> 00:15:01,420 S4: take care of you. And you just have to have 267 00:15:01,420 --> 00:15:05,220 S4: that faith. And there's some things that I have gone 268 00:15:05,220 --> 00:15:12,740 S4: through in my life. And it just reminds me, prepare 269 00:15:12,740 --> 00:15:15,500 S4: for the rain. God, it's up to you. 270 00:15:15,660 --> 00:15:17,980 S1: I can hear in your voice. I can hear the, 271 00:15:18,020 --> 00:15:21,260 S1: you know, that little tremble there you're. And there's so 272 00:15:21,260 --> 00:15:23,740 S1: much behind your story that you're not able to tell 273 00:15:23,740 --> 00:15:26,740 S1: us here today. And I'm not wanting you to, because 274 00:15:26,740 --> 00:15:30,460 S1: it's not the things that have happened to you. It's 275 00:15:30,460 --> 00:15:34,780 S1: the way that God has brought you through that. So, Steven, 276 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:37,060 S1: do you remember coming up with that line and how 277 00:15:37,060 --> 00:15:38,180 S1: that happened in that film? 278 00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:42,590 S2: Yes. Yeah. We were talking about living by faith, over 279 00:15:42,590 --> 00:15:46,630 S2: fear and facing the giants. And the original thought was 280 00:15:47,110 --> 00:15:49,750 S2: I had told Alex, you know, if you've got two 281 00:15:50,030 --> 00:15:54,310 S2: sailors and they're both wanting God to send the wind, 282 00:15:54,310 --> 00:15:57,470 S2: but only one lifts the sail, you know, that that 283 00:15:57,470 --> 00:16:00,150 S2: was the original idea. And then we flipped. You know, 284 00:16:00,190 --> 00:16:03,270 S2: we live in South Georgia, surrounded by plantation land and 285 00:16:03,270 --> 00:16:07,110 S2: lots of farmers. And we ended up shifting it and saying, 286 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:11,430 S2: what if there are two farmers? They're both praying for rain, 287 00:16:11,710 --> 00:16:13,910 S2: but only one of them went out and prepared his 288 00:16:13,910 --> 00:16:16,910 S2: fields to receive the rain. That's the one that is 289 00:16:16,910 --> 00:16:20,510 S2: truly walking by faith. Because James chapter two says, you know, 290 00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:23,670 S2: you can say you have faith, but are your works 291 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:27,230 S2: backing up your faith? And I think if you read 292 00:16:27,230 --> 00:16:31,270 S2: Hebrews 11, you know, every person had to trust God 293 00:16:31,270 --> 00:16:35,270 S2: with the unknown and take that next step of obedience, 294 00:16:35,270 --> 00:16:38,000 S2: even when logically it didn't make sense in the moment. 295 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,880 S1: Right. Sharonda. Thank you. And it's not the amount of 296 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,840 S1: faith that you have. It's the object that you place 297 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,400 S1: your faith in. Right? 298 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:53,120 S2: Absolutely. You know, you can trust your the cabbage in 299 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,120 S2: your refrigerator to answer your prayers all day long. But it, it, 300 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,240 S2: it doesn't have the capacity, but we can have that 301 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,200 S2: mustard seed of faith. But if it's in the Lord 302 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,880 S2: and we're trusting him that we're standing on solid ground. 303 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,920 S1: Um, Heather said the scene in Facing the Giants when 304 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,360 S1: the son apologizes to his dad was really powerful to her. 305 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,200 S1: Do you remember that? Remember that one? 306 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,080 S2: Yes. Um, it was a teenage son with a bad 307 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,160 S2: attitude in the in the school. And, uh, I think 308 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,520 S2: his name was Matt in the movie. And we, we 309 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,440 S2: were showing because we had worked with youth and with 310 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:38,129 S2: teenagers and would oftentimes see these kids, they'd lose respect 311 00:17:38,130 --> 00:17:41,649 S2: for their parents. They'd get bitter and rebellious. But we 312 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:44,970 S2: had had a revival that had happened at our local 313 00:17:44,970 --> 00:17:47,850 S2: Christian school. There really was a man that would pray 314 00:17:47,850 --> 00:17:51,250 S2: over the lockers at our school. And so we wrote 315 00:17:51,250 --> 00:17:55,410 S2: that into the movie. And it's amazing to see how, 316 00:17:55,810 --> 00:17:58,450 S2: you know, you can teach kids etiquette and you can 317 00:17:58,450 --> 00:18:02,290 S2: do behavior modification, but only the Lord can transform a 318 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:05,609 S2: heart from the inside out. And when you've seen those 319 00:18:05,609 --> 00:18:10,210 S2: kids surrender to Christ, and it not only affects their 320 00:18:10,210 --> 00:18:13,050 S2: daily walk with the Lord and the joy and, you know, 321 00:18:13,170 --> 00:18:16,970 S2: a freedom from the guilt of sin. But oftentimes one 322 00:18:16,970 --> 00:18:19,490 S2: of the first things that happens is their parents see 323 00:18:19,490 --> 00:18:22,770 S2: this tenderness and a respect for their parents. And that's 324 00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:24,970 S2: what happened in facing the Giants, he says, I got 325 00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:27,650 S2: to go see my dad. I got to apologize, and 326 00:18:27,650 --> 00:18:28,970 S2: I got to reconcile with him. 327 00:18:29,369 --> 00:18:32,530 S1: See, that's the other thing. You know, there's this father 328 00:18:33,050 --> 00:18:36,899 S1: motif that runs through all of your films. But there's also, 329 00:18:37,460 --> 00:18:41,220 S1: and I think of Hannah in Overcomer and everything when 330 00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:47,700 S1: she walks in to the, uh, where the theater room 331 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:54,580 S1: where they're pretending to the doing the performance. And, um, she, 332 00:18:54,580 --> 00:18:57,340 S1: she asks him to ask her a question and it 333 00:18:57,340 --> 00:19:01,100 S1: goes back to Ephesians about who she is, about her identity. 334 00:19:01,580 --> 00:19:05,899 S1: That is part of every film that you do as well, 335 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:06,500 S1: isn't it? 336 00:19:07,619 --> 00:19:12,300 S2: It really picked up on overcomer when we dealt with identity, 337 00:19:12,580 --> 00:19:17,140 S2: because when we were studying Ephesians, it was a feast 338 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:20,820 S2: that we had never seen before. Oftentimes, people will jump 339 00:19:20,820 --> 00:19:24,300 S2: over the first three chapters in Ephesians and they get 340 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:28,540 S2: to the do list, you know, um, walk in forgiveness, 341 00:19:28,580 --> 00:19:31,699 S2: you know, love your neighbors, be strong in spiritual warfare. 342 00:19:32,020 --> 00:19:35,109 S2: But the first three chapters are the secret because they 343 00:19:35,109 --> 00:19:38,310 S2: lay out that in Christ, when we place our faith 344 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:42,709 S2: in Jesus, God adopts us. And with that adoption comes 345 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:47,590 S2: this amazing package deal of his blessings, his forgiveness, the 346 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:51,869 S2: power of the Holy Spirit, access to his throne in prayer, 347 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:54,790 S2: the hope of heaven that we have, you know, the 348 00:19:54,790 --> 00:19:58,430 S2: connection to the church. And so if you don't realize 349 00:19:58,430 --> 00:20:02,430 S2: the bank account is spiritually that we have with the father, 350 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:05,630 S2: then you're afraid to step in and obey what he's 351 00:20:05,630 --> 00:20:08,710 S2: called you to do, and you don't realize that he's 352 00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:10,950 S2: with you. He's never going to leave you, and he's 353 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:14,030 S2: going to provide what you need. He's going to empower 354 00:20:14,030 --> 00:20:15,790 S2: you with what you need every step of the way. 355 00:20:15,790 --> 00:20:20,230 S2: So after overcomer, identity became a key theme for us. 356 00:20:20,670 --> 00:20:24,030 S1: Well, and in that then is transformation. And I see 357 00:20:24,030 --> 00:20:27,429 S1: that as well. And especially in this, the new flywheel 358 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:30,510 S1: that's coming out in two weeks. Ignition of the soul. Um, 359 00:20:30,550 --> 00:20:34,410 S1: go back to when you first made flywheel. This was 360 00:20:34,410 --> 00:20:38,170 S1: the first real, well, not real, but the first film 361 00:20:38,170 --> 00:20:39,450 S1: that you released, right? 362 00:20:40,330 --> 00:20:43,210 S2: That's right. And it was the first feature film that 363 00:20:43,210 --> 00:20:47,250 S2: we had done. We had made little shorts. And, uh, 364 00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:49,690 S2: Alex was thinking, how hard can it be, you know, 365 00:20:49,730 --> 00:20:52,170 S2: for us to shoot a feature? Well, it's the difference 366 00:20:52,170 --> 00:20:56,570 S2: between a 100 yard dash and running a 26 mile marathon. 367 00:20:56,609 --> 00:21:00,290 S2: It is not even close. And so it was a 368 00:21:00,330 --> 00:21:05,330 S2: Mount Everest of work and prayer and, uh, a lot 369 00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:09,330 S2: of dysfunction, really. We were so disorganized. Um, but it 370 00:21:09,330 --> 00:21:12,450 S2: was all volunteers at our church kind of working on 371 00:21:12,450 --> 00:21:16,370 S2: nights and lunchtimes and on the weekends. And Alex would 372 00:21:16,369 --> 00:21:19,729 S2: write a scene and we'd go out and film it and, uh, 373 00:21:19,930 --> 00:21:22,609 S2: and we finished it the day it was to show 374 00:21:22,609 --> 00:21:25,480 S2: in our local theater. And they said, is it 16 375 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,810 S2: millimeter or 35 millimeter? And we said, it's on a 376 00:21:28,810 --> 00:21:31,980 S2: DVD that we burned at our church and they said, oh, 377 00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:35,060 S2: we don't have DVD players here. So we had to 378 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:38,659 S2: take our DVD player and our church projector up to 379 00:21:38,700 --> 00:21:41,020 S2: the theater and plug it into their sound system. 380 00:21:42,020 --> 00:21:44,740 S1: And when we went, what about the equipment? What was 381 00:21:44,740 --> 00:21:48,100 S1: the what was the camera that you were using? And 382 00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:50,780 S1: what's the difference between that and what you use now? 383 00:21:51,380 --> 00:21:55,179 S2: Yeah. Well, the first camera was a canon ZL, one 384 00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:58,859 S2: camera that shot in four ATP resolution, which is a 385 00:21:58,859 --> 00:22:03,300 S2: DVD quality. And we barely knew how to use the camera. 386 00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:08,100 S2: But the when the movie started playing, what people saw 387 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:12,100 S2: was not impressive. You know, the cinematography, the lighting, the 388 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:16,100 S2: acting was all volunteer acting. Everything was just thrown together. 389 00:22:16,580 --> 00:22:20,219 S2: The key thing that that was what the Lord did 390 00:22:20,220 --> 00:22:23,700 S2: was we prayed every step of the way, every day 391 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:26,699 S2: as we shot. While we were editing, we were praying. 392 00:22:27,140 --> 00:22:29,869 S2: And when, when, when they hit play on that DVD player. 393 00:22:29,869 --> 00:22:31,950 S2: The Holy Spirit showed up in the room and people 394 00:22:31,950 --> 00:22:36,310 S2: started crying and giving their lives to Christ, or recommitting 395 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:39,750 S2: their marriage or their businesses to God. And that was 396 00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:42,310 S2: what was beautiful. It was not what we did. It 397 00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:44,630 S2: was what the Lord was doing in the hearts of 398 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:48,510 S2: the people. And it actually shifted for us an understanding 399 00:22:48,510 --> 00:22:53,030 S2: of Christian filmmaking. It's not the screen that is the canvas. 400 00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:56,109 S2: It is the heart of the viewer. The screen is 401 00:22:56,109 --> 00:23:00,070 S2: only a tool of the Lord and the prayer and 402 00:23:00,070 --> 00:23:02,590 S2: the hope is that when they hear the gospel and 403 00:23:02,590 --> 00:23:06,110 S2: the Word of God, that that God opens their eyes 404 00:23:06,109 --> 00:23:09,110 S2: and their lives are forever changed when they walk out 405 00:23:09,109 --> 00:23:11,910 S2: the door. And that's the beautiful work that God does. 406 00:23:12,150 --> 00:23:17,510 S1: But the production values are important. You've you've been able 407 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:20,670 S1: to improve on those as you've gone along. And the 408 00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:24,629 S1: new the new flywheel is exhibition. If you look at 409 00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:29,000 S1: the new flywheel as opposed to that for ATP. It's 410 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,320 S1: night and day, isn't it? 411 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,520 S2: Absolutely. We used Alexa 35 camera, which they shot the 412 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,879 S2: Avengers movies on, and we had professional lighting and sound 413 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,880 S2: and actors, everything about it. And we shot it in Rio. 414 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,520 S2: So it is beautiful landscapes and establishment shots and, uh, 415 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,480 S2: what a massive difference. It's really been God's redemption because 416 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,720 S2: after the forge and we released the forge internationally, Brazil 417 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,320 S2: just took it and outsold America. The churches used it 418 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:06,040 S2: for discipleship and evangelism in mega ways. And they came 419 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,679 S2: back and said, we know, we know how to to 420 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,960 S2: make productions, but they all look like soap operas. They 421 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,920 S2: don't look like this quality. Can you help us? And 422 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,600 S2: so we came back and started to pray because we 423 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,320 S2: were thinking, there are so many problems to us filming 424 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,810 S2: a movie in Brazil. We don't live there. We don't 425 00:24:26,810 --> 00:24:29,570 S2: know the language, we don't know the laws. We don't 426 00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:32,129 S2: know any cast or crew or gear or any of 427 00:24:32,130 --> 00:24:35,530 S2: those things. I mean, and so we had a prayer 428 00:24:35,530 --> 00:24:39,650 S2: retreat and with our wives and out from that came 429 00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:42,770 S2: a clear, unanimous piece of we need to go to 430 00:24:42,810 --> 00:24:45,209 S2: Brazil by faith, and God will provide what we needed. 431 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:48,370 S1: Wow. And you did. And the film comes out in 432 00:24:48,410 --> 00:24:51,250 S1: two weeks. I want you to hear more about it 433 00:24:51,250 --> 00:24:57,810 S1: here today, because it is a Copacabana and Ipanema and 434 00:24:57,850 --> 00:25:00,810 S1: the Christ the Savior. You're up on the mountain and 435 00:25:00,810 --> 00:25:03,090 S1: all of that. It is. It is all there. But 436 00:25:03,090 --> 00:25:07,090 S1: it's this story that they came up with years and 437 00:25:07,090 --> 00:25:11,650 S1: years ago that then has been updated. And I'll have 438 00:25:11,650 --> 00:25:14,330 S1: Steve and Kendrick tell you more about that. And our 439 00:25:14,369 --> 00:25:16,250 S1: lines are still open. If you want to tell Stephen 440 00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:22,449 S1: a story about what one of their films has done. (877) 548-3675. 441 00:25:22,570 --> 00:25:29,900 S1: Our number 75483675. Uh, see, Jackie says Miss Clara in 442 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:33,780 S1: her kitchen, celebrating a victory over the enemy in war room. 443 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:38,580 S1: Snake King in courage from courageous. But the one that 444 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:41,940 S1: hits me most is in the forge. When Isaiah is 445 00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:45,380 S1: praying and his mom is outside rejoicing, any of those 446 00:25:45,380 --> 00:26:03,780 S1: strike a chord with you. Eight. Seven. Seven. Five. Four. Eight. Three. Six. Seven. Five. Oh, 447 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:06,220 S1: there's so much fun talking with Steve and Kendrick today 448 00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:09,580 S1: on Chris Fabry Live. Flywheel ignition of the soul comes 449 00:26:09,580 --> 00:26:13,220 S1: out in two weeks. I remember being on the set 450 00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:17,460 S1: of overcomer when they were shooting that and Priscilla Shirer. 451 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:19,500 S1: We were in this, I think it was at dinner, 452 00:26:19,660 --> 00:26:23,600 S1: Priscilla Shirer said to me, she said, can you believe 453 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080 S1: we get to do this? We get to do this. 454 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,120 S1: We get to be a part of this. And it's 455 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,480 S1: like it's the same. I'm giddy with being able to 456 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,439 S1: talk about this, because I know all the work that 457 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,320 S1: goes into each of these films. Trina is in Georgia. Trina, 458 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,440 S1: why did you call today? 459 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,240 S5: Well, um, thank you for taking my call. Chris. Um, 460 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:50,240 S5: the movie courageous, um, has stood out to me in, 461 00:26:52,080 --> 00:27:00,760 S5: in 2020, my mom graduated to heaven from Covid and watching, um, 462 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,719 S5: courageous and how they, the family dealt with their daughter, 463 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,880 S5: as I call it, graduating to heaven was just encouraging 464 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,800 S5: because they could have gotten mad at God and turned 465 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,760 S5: away from God, but they just kept leaning on God. 466 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,850 S5: And I say, graduate to heaven because in this world. 467 00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:27,130 S5: It's this world is like God's classroom where we have 468 00:27:27,130 --> 00:27:31,770 S5: to take courses sometimes over and over again. But when 469 00:27:31,810 --> 00:27:35,090 S5: God sees we passed all of his classes he has 470 00:27:35,090 --> 00:27:37,850 S5: for us. We graduate to heaven. 471 00:27:39,650 --> 00:27:42,770 S1: You know? And the interesting thing in that analogy is 472 00:27:42,810 --> 00:27:44,930 S1: he's the one who gives us the power to take 473 00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:47,490 S1: the test, to make the, you know, to make the marks. 474 00:27:47,490 --> 00:27:51,290 S1: But it sounds like then that you were when you 475 00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:54,090 S1: watched that movie and you saw that movie, it gave 476 00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:58,170 S1: you hope for what you were about to experience with 477 00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:00,409 S1: your mom. What does that do to you, Stephen, as 478 00:28:00,410 --> 00:28:01,450 S1: you hear that story? 479 00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:08,010 S2: Well, I think about, um, the Lord. Second Corinthians one, 480 00:28:08,010 --> 00:28:10,570 S2: we have a God of all comfort who comforts all 481 00:28:10,570 --> 00:28:14,690 S2: of us, all, every believer in all the affliction that 482 00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:18,210 S2: we go through, all the suffering, he's right there with us. 483 00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:21,780 S2: And then through him comforting us. He gives us a 484 00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:25,820 S2: superpower and that is a tender heart. That then will 485 00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:28,500 S2: want to comfort other people. And I went through that 486 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:32,540 S2: in my own life. We lost loved ones and friends 487 00:28:32,540 --> 00:28:36,580 S2: and ministry and students of cancer that we were, you know, 488 00:28:36,619 --> 00:28:40,460 S2: pouring into. And then to see God through the grief 489 00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:43,860 S2: and the tears not only meets you right in that 490 00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:47,180 S2: dark place of need, but then out of it, I 491 00:28:47,180 --> 00:28:49,900 S2: started caring more about people. I didn't cry when they 492 00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:52,500 S2: were hurting before, until after I went through the valley. 493 00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:55,380 S2: And I know the Lord's got hers still on this 494 00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:57,500 S2: earth and will use her to comfort others. 495 00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:02,340 S1: That's great. Trina. Thank you. Matthew's in Montrose, Colorado. Matthew, 496 00:29:02,380 --> 00:29:03,460 S1: why did you call today? 497 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:11,300 S6: Uh. Hi there. I called because of, uh, the forge 498 00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:17,260 S6: and the scene where they were blessing the boy. And 499 00:29:17,260 --> 00:29:21,430 S6: I feel like in the the Christian realm. We don't 500 00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:24,310 S6: do that enough. We don't bless. We are. And there 501 00:29:24,350 --> 00:29:26,910 S6: are examples in the Bible that talk about blessing, but 502 00:29:26,910 --> 00:29:29,790 S6: we don't, uh, bless people enough. And just that scene 503 00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:34,670 S6: was so powerful and I get choked up about it just, uh, 504 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:38,790 S6: thinking about it. Uh, and I just, I'm so grateful 505 00:29:38,790 --> 00:29:44,550 S6: for the gentleman who made that movie. Um, uh, thank you. Uh, 506 00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:46,150 S6: what a what a powerful movie. 507 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:48,590 S1: Well, it sounds like to me, Matthew, like you never 508 00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:51,190 S1: had anybody do that for you. Is that true? 509 00:29:51,670 --> 00:29:57,950 S6: Oh, that's a good question. Um, you know, no, probably not, 510 00:29:57,950 --> 00:30:02,390 S6: but but since then, every time somebody has a birthday, 511 00:30:02,390 --> 00:30:04,710 S6: that that is something that we do as I have 512 00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:07,190 S6: everybody gather around and then we go ahead and bless 513 00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:11,110 S6: that person, whomever. And so yeah. And so, and. 514 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:14,190 S7: That came from a movie. It's like, can you believe, Steven. 515 00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:16,310 S1: That something like that would come, you know, and you're 516 00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:18,280 S1: affecting people's lives? What do you say? 517 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,040 S2: Wow. Well, praise the Lord. Uh, our father did that 518 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,040 S2: for us because he didn't get it from his own father. 519 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,200 S2: But at all of our weddings, he did a fatherly blessing. 520 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,280 S2: And it was just this overwhelmingly communication of I love you, 521 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,440 S2: I believe in you. My prayer and hope for you 522 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,880 S2: is that God places his hand on you and uses you. The. 523 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,600 S2: At my wedding it was six minutes long. We timed it. The. 524 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,720 S2: The blessing my dad gave us and all of those 525 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,080 S2: things have come true in the last 26 years of 526 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,240 S2: our lives, but we put that in the forge because 527 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,000 S2: that's what a spiritual father can do for someone. And 528 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,040 S2: what was interesting was when they filmed that scene after 529 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,760 S2: we yelled, cut! Those godly actors that were playing the 530 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:14,080 S2: forge men surrounded Aspen Kennedy who, um, did not have 531 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,440 S2: a godly father in real life. And they played it. 532 00:31:16,490 --> 00:31:20,610 S2: They prayed a genuine prayer of blessing over him, and 533 00:31:20,610 --> 00:31:24,050 S2: he was overwhelmed that it wasn't just a movie script, 534 00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:25,410 S2: you know? This is real life. 535 00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:26,050 S7: Yeah. 536 00:31:26,410 --> 00:31:29,610 S1: How is Aspen doing now? Have you heard from him lately? 537 00:31:30,050 --> 00:31:32,650 S2: Yeah, he's doing good. They've. He and his wife have 538 00:31:32,650 --> 00:31:36,490 S2: had a baby now, and he's continuing to serve the Lord. 539 00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:39,090 S2: And more doors have opened up for him, and we 540 00:31:39,090 --> 00:31:41,930 S2: would love to work with him again. He he genuinely 541 00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:42,770 S2: loves the Lord. 542 00:31:43,450 --> 00:31:48,610 S1: Okay, take me to Brazil then. And why? Why Brazil? 543 00:31:48,650 --> 00:31:52,210 S1: Why film this there? It sounds like you guys prayed 544 00:31:52,210 --> 00:31:54,890 S1: about that and often your wives to prayed about an 545 00:31:54,890 --> 00:31:55,570 S1: awful lot. 546 00:31:56,770 --> 00:32:02,250 S2: Absolutely. It was unexpected. Um, when the movies are released, 547 00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:05,530 S2: Sony will put them in almost 80 countries around the 548 00:32:05,530 --> 00:32:09,130 S2: world in about 40 languages. And so when you track 549 00:32:09,130 --> 00:32:11,930 S2: those countries and you see how they're doing, you know, 550 00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:16,030 S2: there may be a Nigeria may have Of $100,000, you know, 551 00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:20,310 S2: of tickets sold. And in Mexico it may be 250,000. 552 00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:24,470 S2: The number one country internationally that has jumped on our 553 00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:29,910 S2: films has been Brazil by far. And they the evangelical 554 00:32:29,910 --> 00:32:35,270 S2: churches in Brazil are unified. They're praying. They're church planting 555 00:32:35,270 --> 00:32:38,670 S2: very rapidly. God's been doing a deep work in Brazil. 556 00:32:39,030 --> 00:32:43,070 S2: So when we traveled to promote the forge there, we 557 00:32:43,070 --> 00:32:48,270 S2: saw incredible worship. We saw we would meet a pastor 558 00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:50,630 S2: in his 30s or 40s, and he'd already helped plant 559 00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:54,150 S2: like 50 churches. And I'm scratching my head thinking, how 560 00:32:54,150 --> 00:32:57,430 S2: in the world are you doing this here? But they're 561 00:32:57,430 --> 00:33:02,229 S2: practicing a home discipleship group model that is in the 562 00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:06,390 S2: book of acts, and they're rapidly sharing the gospel. And 563 00:33:06,390 --> 00:33:09,670 S2: basically every member becomes a minister in the way that 564 00:33:09,670 --> 00:33:13,590 S2: they're operating. But they were asking us, would you please come? 565 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,440 S2: And so with with flywheel, we were thinking this. People 566 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,600 S2: have said this is the best story of any of 567 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,560 S2: our films, but the least amount of people have seen it. 568 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,320 S2: It was the lowest quality originally. And so after we 569 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,440 S2: prayed it through and we went to Brazil, we took 570 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,600 S2: this wonderful story about the transformation that Jesus can bring 571 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,080 S2: to a man's life, and we updated it in modern 572 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,080 S2: day Portuguese, you know, Rio vernacular. And then we we 573 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,440 S2: had to have translators with us the entire time we 574 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,520 S2: were there, but we were praying with them every day 575 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,960 S2: on set, not only producing a movie, but training up 576 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,880 S2: filmmakers to make Jesus the center of all their filmmaking. 577 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,600 S1: Yes. Okay. So, uh, the main character in the film, 578 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,640 S1: because it changed from the script to the film, you 579 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,920 S1: changed character names, uh, along the way. And you, the 580 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,089 S1: main characters, Noah and his wife is Anna. And that's 581 00:34:14,090 --> 00:34:17,730 S1: different in Portuguese, you know, as their son is David. 582 00:34:17,730 --> 00:34:22,489 S1: Or though it's David in Portuguese. Um, so can you 583 00:34:22,489 --> 00:34:25,089 S1: tell us the behind the scenes story of why you 584 00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:26,090 S1: named him Noah? 585 00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:29,930 S2: Well, we had a different name for him and put 586 00:34:29,930 --> 00:34:33,410 S2: it in the original script. And when we got to Brazil, 587 00:34:33,850 --> 00:34:37,210 S2: we were having prayer with the the new team, the 588 00:34:37,210 --> 00:34:41,250 S2: new crew, and a lady came in and said, I 589 00:34:41,250 --> 00:34:45,090 S2: just had a dream last night of a baby, um, 590 00:34:45,250 --> 00:34:50,290 S2: passing away and people surrounding them and praying. And then 591 00:34:50,290 --> 00:34:54,690 S2: the doctors begin to resuscitate that baby and that God 592 00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:59,129 S2: is going to use this film to revive hearts that 593 00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:02,930 S2: are dead in Brazil. As she's talking, she's crying. Well, 594 00:35:02,930 --> 00:35:07,569 S2: then the director that is Alejandro Barros, is his name 595 00:35:07,570 --> 00:35:09,730 S2: that we had chosen to help us direct this movie. 596 00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:12,660 S2: He starts weeping And we're like, what is going on? 597 00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:15,060 S2: And he said, I didn't want to tell anyone, but 598 00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:19,460 S2: my infant grandson was in a car with me about 599 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:22,259 S2: a year and a half ago, and we had a 600 00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:26,820 S2: car accident and my infant grandson died. And he said, 601 00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:31,020 S2: I have grieved so deeply and just been devastated. And 602 00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:35,060 S2: now I'm directing a movie about a man who is 603 00:35:35,060 --> 00:35:37,819 S2: riding with his son in a car. You know, and 604 00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:40,620 S2: he just said, I know God's called me to this, 605 00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:44,060 S2: but my my grandson's loss has just been heavy on 606 00:35:44,060 --> 00:35:47,940 S2: my heart. And Alex turned to him as led by 607 00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:51,060 S2: the Holy Spirit and said, what was his name? And 608 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:54,020 S2: he said, my grandson's name was Noah. And Alex said, 609 00:35:54,020 --> 00:35:57,620 S2: then that's the the new name of the lead character 610 00:35:57,940 --> 00:36:01,299 S2: in the movie. He said, we will honor his name 611 00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:04,779 S2: and we will redeem his story. And now millions of 612 00:36:04,780 --> 00:36:07,820 S2: people will hear the gospel connected to the name Noah. 613 00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:10,910 S2: And he broke down and he broke down and wept. 614 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:19,670 S1: That's that's real stuff, Steven. You know, that's like the ignition. 615 00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:22,150 S1: Talk about ignition of the soul, right? 616 00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:26,950 S2: Yeah. Right. Yeah. It was. We had so many encounters 617 00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:30,270 S2: with the Lord. When we landed there, we were thinking, 618 00:36:30,270 --> 00:36:32,990 S2: how is this going to work? We don't know Portuguese 619 00:36:32,989 --> 00:36:35,790 S2: and we don't know how this is going to happen. 620 00:36:35,989 --> 00:36:40,190 S2: It turned into three days of prayer meetings. And then 621 00:36:40,190 --> 00:36:44,150 S2: right out of that, we started moving so fast with 622 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:47,830 S2: so many limitations. It was happening faster than in the U.S. 623 00:36:47,870 --> 00:36:51,470 S2: you know, we usually do 13 casting sessions in the U.S. 624 00:36:51,469 --> 00:36:54,950 S2: to cast a movie. We did one in Brazil. Everybody 625 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:57,790 S2: we needed walked in the door and we were thinking, 626 00:36:57,910 --> 00:37:01,310 S2: how is this happening so fast? And we don't know 627 00:37:01,350 --> 00:37:04,710 S2: that we still don't know Portuguese, you know, and we're thinking, 628 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:08,480 S2: the Lord, he keeps sending the the answer in the 629 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,640 S2: door right when we need it. And he promised us 630 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,080 S2: if we are obedient and we follow him, he'll be 631 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,720 S2: with us. And we. It was really Indiana Jones stepping 632 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,319 S2: out over the dark when we flew to Brazil and 633 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,160 S2: we saw the Lord every day, lay tracks in front 634 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,080 S2: of the moving train. 635 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,640 S1: Real quickly. Tell me the story of the main actor, 636 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,080 S1: Noah and his wife who walked on the set. 637 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,360 S2: Well, Mario and Perla, uh, are the the lead characters 638 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,600 S2: in this movie flywheel. And, uh, they both were professional, 639 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:47,080 S2: talented actors in secular productions. They had been kind of 640 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,680 S2: child actors growing up, and both of them had recently, 641 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,040 S2: like in the last two years been baptized, surrendered themselves 642 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,280 S2: to the Lord. And they were just saying, we're done. 643 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,440 S2: You know, we're done with doing secular productions. We only 644 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,879 S2: want to honor the Lord. They kind of moved away 645 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,920 S2: from the big city and they just said, God, we 646 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,940 S2: just want you to to be pleased with our lives. 647 00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:11,379 S2: So when we show up and we're auditioning, they heard 648 00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:13,500 S2: about the film. They were the first two people that 649 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,140 S2: walked in the room, and we cast them in the 650 00:38:16,140 --> 00:38:19,580 S2: lead roles. It's beautiful for a husband and wife that 651 00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:23,620 S2: are both professionals and love Jesus. Uh, for them to 652 00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:25,620 S2: be playing a husband and wife in the movie because 653 00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:29,620 S2: they can be affectionate at another level. They were praying 654 00:38:29,660 --> 00:38:33,740 S2: together and working on their chemistry reads and practicing together 655 00:38:33,739 --> 00:38:37,060 S2: every day leading up to the scenes. And we just 656 00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:39,700 S2: saw God's hand on them. They cried saying, I cannot 657 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:43,299 S2: believe when we gave our talents to the Lord what 658 00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:44,459 S2: he's already doing with it. 659 00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:45,780 S7: I could also. 660 00:38:45,780 --> 00:38:50,420 S1: Tell that when they got into conflict, there's one scene in, 661 00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:53,860 S1: in the, uh, the kitchen, you know, at the table 662 00:38:54,219 --> 00:38:58,180 S1: where they, you know, and he's Mario is really upset 663 00:38:58,219 --> 00:39:01,860 S1: who's Noah? And his wife is really upset. I was like, yep, they're, 664 00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:06,870 S1: they're being themselves in a way They care because conflict 665 00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:10,190 S1: is a part of this. So it's called flywheel ignition 666 00:39:10,190 --> 00:39:13,790 S1: of the soul. It comes out in theaters in two weeks. 667 00:39:14,030 --> 00:39:16,430 S1: I'm still going to take your calls here for Stephen Kendrick. 668 00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:18,229 S1: If you want to tell me the movie that that 669 00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:21,629 S1: moved you, that you still hang on to, and we'll 670 00:39:21,630 --> 00:39:23,790 S1: do those straight ahead. But if you go to Chris 671 00:39:23,830 --> 00:39:28,149 S1: Fabry live.org, you'll see that flywheel ignition of the soul. 672 00:39:28,590 --> 00:39:41,830 S1: Chris Fabry live.org. Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth said, we look up, 673 00:39:41,830 --> 00:39:46,710 S1: but Jesus looked down not only to see us, but 674 00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:50,549 S1: to be like us, to live like us, and to 675 00:39:50,590 --> 00:39:54,069 S1: make his home with us. He stooped down to love us, 676 00:39:54,070 --> 00:39:57,069 S1: to be near us, to rub shoulders with us, and 677 00:39:57,070 --> 00:40:00,989 S1: to be one of us, to know us and care 678 00:40:00,989 --> 00:40:03,310 S1: for us. I thank you if you give a gift 679 00:40:03,310 --> 00:40:06,120 S1: to Chris Fabry, live during October? That's right. It's Christmas 680 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:11,440 S1: in October, it's Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth. Consider Jesus meditations on 681 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,439 S1: the person and work of Christ. Just go to Chris fabry.org. 682 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,200 S1: Scroll down. You'll see how you can give a gift 683 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,640 S1: of any size. And we send you this hardback, 31 684 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,480 S1: day Advent devotional. I do it, I'm planning ahead doing 685 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,840 S1: this in October so that you'll get it by December, 686 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,440 S1: rather than talking about it in December and send it 687 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,600 S1: to you in January. So give us a gift of 688 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,040 S1: any size. I'd love to put this in your hands. 689 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,480 S1: Go to Chris Fabry live.org, or you can call us 690 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:48,000 S1: at 86695386695322792 weeks. The countdown is on for flywheel ignition 691 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,040 S1: of the soul from the Kendrick brothers. Theresa is in Cleveland, Ohio. Theresa, 692 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,800 S1: go right ahead. 693 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,560 S8: I just wanted to say the movie life Mark had 694 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,480 S8: a big impact on me. I was adopted as a 695 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,089 S8: baby and very content in my family that I was 696 00:41:03,090 --> 00:41:08,170 S8: raised in. I lost both of my parents by 2020 697 00:41:08,210 --> 00:41:11,250 S8: and saw the Lifemark movie, and it opened my eyes 698 00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:14,969 S8: to the perspective of the biological parents because I had 699 00:41:14,969 --> 00:41:18,290 S8: no intention of ever finding them. But I now saw 700 00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:20,410 S8: the perspective of what it was for them to bear 701 00:41:20,410 --> 00:41:22,250 S8: a child and give that child up and then spend 702 00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:26,129 S8: their life wondering. So I have reached out, I've met 703 00:41:26,130 --> 00:41:30,970 S8: both of my biological parents, and I've brought tremendous healing 704 00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:33,450 S8: to my biological mother because she was 16 when she 705 00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:39,529 S8: had me and she spent her whole life. She's 77 now. 706 00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:42,969 S8: I believe she spent her whole life feeling ashamed and, 707 00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:47,650 S8: you know, just really embarrassed. She never told anybody about me. 708 00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:49,489 S8: And she just her whole entire life. She felt like 709 00:41:49,489 --> 00:41:51,650 S8: she as she said she was a bad girl. And 710 00:41:51,850 --> 00:41:54,890 S8: she's had tremendous healing in the four years since I've 711 00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:57,690 S8: met her. So it's been a very impactful movie. 712 00:41:57,890 --> 00:42:01,250 S1: Wow. Oh, Teresa, thank you for calling. Somebody needed to 713 00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:04,860 S1: hear that today. And Stephen, that's one of those few films. 714 00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:07,060 S1: Tons of people send you. You ought to do this. 715 00:42:07,060 --> 00:42:08,980 S1: You ought to do that. That's one of those films 716 00:42:08,980 --> 00:42:13,339 S1: that came from an idea from someone else to you. Right? 717 00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:17,980 S2: That's right. Kirk Cameron contacted us and he said I'd 718 00:42:17,980 --> 00:42:22,660 S2: watch this 30 minute documentary online, and it just wrecked me. 719 00:42:22,660 --> 00:42:25,540 S2: And he said, this is so powerful. Can we make 720 00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:28,180 S2: this into a feature film? Because it aligns with my 721 00:42:28,180 --> 00:42:33,420 S2: values of valuing the unborn and valuing adoption. And so 722 00:42:33,620 --> 00:42:37,299 S2: we prayed it through and made that movie with Kirk Cameron, 723 00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:40,060 S2: and had no idea that Roe v Wade would be 724 00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:44,660 S2: overturned just weeks before it was released in theaters. And 725 00:42:44,780 --> 00:42:47,500 S2: with that, going from a national level down to the 726 00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:51,299 S2: state level with now state legislators, the monkeys thrown into 727 00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:52,980 S2: their laps of what are you going to do in 728 00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:56,060 S2: your state to value life and life? Mark is a 729 00:42:56,060 --> 00:42:58,620 S2: true story. You just can't argue with a true story. 730 00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:02,350 S2: And it basically shows not only the value of life, 731 00:43:02,350 --> 00:43:05,910 S2: but the beauty of adoption. So wow, what a testimony. 732 00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:08,710 S2: I wasn't expecting what she said. That's so good. 733 00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:12,790 S1: Yes. Oh, and and maybe there's, you know, someone who, 734 00:43:12,830 --> 00:43:15,270 S1: who did that, who made that choice, you know, to 735 00:43:15,310 --> 00:43:18,750 S1: place the child and is feeling that same way. You 736 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:21,229 S1: don't have to live under that weight. That's the other 737 00:43:21,230 --> 00:43:23,510 S1: thing that comes through in all of your films is 738 00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:26,069 S1: there is a weight that you have to carry that 739 00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:29,549 S1: you don't have to carry because of the freedom that 740 00:43:29,550 --> 00:43:32,710 S1: God wants to give you, because of his forgiveness, because 741 00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:36,150 S1: of his grace. It just goes through all of the films. 742 00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:39,390 S1: And you were telling me in the break that flywheel, 743 00:43:39,390 --> 00:43:42,149 S1: when it first came out, that it kind of, in 744 00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:46,190 S1: some ways forecasts the future for other films that you 745 00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:47,670 S1: were going to make. Is that true? 746 00:43:49,070 --> 00:43:53,469 S2: It did. In the closing scene, Alex gets in the car, 747 00:43:53,710 --> 00:43:56,910 S2: Alex is playing the lead, and he puts on a 748 00:43:56,950 --> 00:44:00,729 S2: Sherwood Christian Academy football hat, which he had no idea 749 00:44:00,770 --> 00:44:03,810 S2: he was was about to shoot facing the Giants like 750 00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:08,969 S2: the next year. And then the the apology scene between 751 00:44:08,969 --> 00:44:13,770 S2: the the husband and the father was really reminiscent or 752 00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:17,009 S2: in preparation for fireproof, when he says, I'm going to 753 00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:20,690 S2: be the spiritual leader of my home. It pointed to courageous. 754 00:44:21,170 --> 00:44:24,850 S2: There were there were multiple elements, even the repentance level. 755 00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:28,129 S2: You know, most of our movies don't really have three acts. 756 00:44:28,170 --> 00:44:30,810 S2: People tell us you do them all wrong. You need to. 757 00:44:30,850 --> 00:44:34,770 S2: Hollywood always has three acts. We usually have two big ones, 758 00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:37,850 S2: and the first half shows when we try to do 759 00:44:37,850 --> 00:44:40,810 S2: things on our own apart from the Lord, where we 760 00:44:40,810 --> 00:44:44,130 S2: end up. And then usually about halfway through the movie, 761 00:44:44,130 --> 00:44:47,850 S2: you will see a point where people surrender fully to God. 762 00:44:47,850 --> 00:44:52,290 S2: Whatever the the mountain, the challenge, the battle is and 763 00:44:52,290 --> 00:44:54,850 S2: give themselves fully to the Lord. And then you see 764 00:44:54,850 --> 00:44:58,100 S2: what happens when the hand of the Holy Spirit steps 765 00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:01,420 S2: into the glove of our lives and how God can 766 00:45:01,420 --> 00:45:03,980 S2: bring redemption out of all of our brokenness. 767 00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:08,180 S1: Uh, what is it about the 1965 Mustang that shows 768 00:45:08,180 --> 00:45:09,620 S1: up in a few of your films? 769 00:45:11,060 --> 00:45:14,660 S2: I was wondering about that too, because, uh, it was 770 00:45:14,660 --> 00:45:18,100 S2: in Alex when Alex started talking about it for The Forge, 771 00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:20,379 S2: I was like, wait a minute, we restored a car 772 00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:23,380 S2: in the original flywheel. Now we're restoring another one in 773 00:45:23,420 --> 00:45:26,219 S2: the forge. He's like, what? You're right. What you like, 774 00:45:26,260 --> 00:45:29,140 S2: you know? And so and then it showed up again 775 00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:32,420 S2: in this flywheel. But it's beautifully red in this new one. 776 00:45:32,580 --> 00:45:36,739 S1: Yes it is. And it's this is a, a film, 777 00:45:36,780 --> 00:45:39,859 S1: you know, it's, it's in Portuguese. So when they go 778 00:45:39,860 --> 00:45:42,779 S1: to the theater, they're probably going to hear the English 779 00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:46,180 S1: dubbed version. But I say, if you can listen, if 780 00:45:46,219 --> 00:45:49,140 S1: you can read the subtitles and get it in the, 781 00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:53,660 S1: in the Portuguese film, there's something powerful about hearing it 782 00:45:53,660 --> 00:45:55,580 S1: in the original language. I don't know if you agree 783 00:45:55,630 --> 00:45:57,549 S1: with me on that, but I'm sticking with it. What 784 00:45:57,550 --> 00:45:58,230 S1: do you think? 785 00:45:58,390 --> 00:46:01,670 S2: I totally agree. I'd say either way, you're going to 786 00:46:01,670 --> 00:46:02,470 S2: enjoy the film. 787 00:46:02,670 --> 00:46:07,230 S1: Yeah. Flywheel. Ignition of the soul. In two weeks. Patrick. 788 00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:08,910 S1: Sorry we didn't get to your call, but he was 789 00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:12,150 S1: talking about facing the Giants. When the lineman is carrying 790 00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:14,390 S1: the other player on his back. And there are others 791 00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:17,310 S1: responding here today. Stephen, it's great to get to talk 792 00:46:17,310 --> 00:46:20,029 S1: with you today. God bless you and keep doing what 793 00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:22,550 S1: you're doing and come back real soon, okay? 794 00:46:23,070 --> 00:46:25,230 S2: Thank you Chris so much. My my pleasure. 795 00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:28,910 S1: Go to Chris Fabry live.org. Scroll down. You'll see that 796 00:46:28,910 --> 00:46:31,629 S1: new film. Watch the trailer and you'll see what we're 797 00:46:31,630 --> 00:46:36,509 S1: talking about here today. Flywheel ignition of the soul at 798 00:46:36,510 --> 00:46:41,230 S1: Chris Fabry live dot ORG. I met a new recording 799 00:46:41,230 --> 00:46:43,910 S1: artist and he's going to be on the program on Monday. 800 00:46:43,950 --> 00:46:45,830 S1: I hope you'll come back. Have a great weekend. Chris 801 00:46:45,870 --> 00:46:49,030 S1: Fabry lives production of Moody Radio, a Ministry of Moody 802 00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:50,430 S1: Bible Institute.