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S2: Practical from the Bible. Tips and tricks to kill. Not tricks,

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S1: Delivering the truth daily.

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S3: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up

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S2: The gospel changes everything.

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S4: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement

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S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl

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S1: and crew. So we're talking focus. Welcome aboard. You early birds.

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S1: You got that worm? You might have it in your mouth.

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S1: You got up so early.

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S1: It's not necessarily our show. Hopefully it's spending some time

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S3: Yes we do. You know, there was. This was last month.

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S1: Arlene Pelican filled with great information and deep conviction. Good grief.

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S5: Standing on the rock each and every day. You're listening

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S1: So our theme this whole week is New year, New focus.

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S1: Well, now. Oh yes, sirree Bob, these new glasses. Now,

447
00:21:56,510 --> 00:21:58,310
S1: I'm not saying you have to have these big old

448
00:21:58,310 --> 00:22:01,270
S1: safety goggles across your face, but I'm talking about that

449
00:22:01,270 --> 00:22:04,629
S1: little range of motion for your eyes. It's way expanded,

450
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:07,310
S1: which was good news because I said, babe, we're going

451
00:22:07,310 --> 00:22:09,670
S1: to take another run at it because she had some

452
00:22:09,670 --> 00:22:11,990
S1: transition lenses that we got her a few years ago,

453
00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:13,990
S1: and she's like, I can't use these. And she put

454
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:15,230
S1: them down. Never used them again.

455
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:17,030
S3: The progressive, she had progressive lenses.

456
00:22:17,070 --> 00:22:21,190
S1: Yeah. Did I say transition lenses? Progressive lenses.

457
00:22:21,230 --> 00:22:22,109
S3: Yes. Okay.

458
00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:25,990
S1: Good gracious girl. So the progressive lenses as opposed to

459
00:22:26,030 --> 00:22:28,470
S1: bifocals don't have that line. But they do the same

460
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:31,150
S1: function without having that big old hawk and, you know,

461
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:33,500
S1: 50 yard line right across the middle of your mug.

462
00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:38,780
S1: So it's, um, it's really cool because I'm looking through this.

463
00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:40,780
S1: I'm going. I wonder if this will work for my bride.

464
00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:43,379
S1: So I took her in. I said, would you please

465
00:22:43,380 --> 00:22:46,179
S1: try it? In fact, the eye doc said, I'll tell

466
00:22:46,180 --> 00:22:48,540
S1: you what, Janine. That's my bride's name, by the way.

467
00:22:48,540 --> 00:22:50,219
S1: Some of you didn't know she had a first name.

468
00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:52,940
S1: And he said, I'll tell you what, Janine. If these

469
00:22:52,940 --> 00:22:56,220
S1: don't work for you, we will bring them in. We'll

470
00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:58,540
S1: pop them out. We'll turn them into either readers or

471
00:22:58,580 --> 00:23:03,140
S1: just driving glasses. Distance or close. So no cost to you.

472
00:23:03,380 --> 00:23:05,940
S1: He says, I think they're going to work. I'm like, yes.

473
00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:09,380
S1: Well guess what? Like some of my stories that end

474
00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:12,540
S1: with it didn't work. This one did work. It worked. Yeah.

475
00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:15,379
S3: I'm excited. I'm actually in the market for new glasses,

476
00:23:15,380 --> 00:23:16,620
S3: so I'm listening closely.

477
00:23:16,859 --> 00:23:17,620
S1: Well, this.

478
00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:18,660
S3: Worked for Janine.

479
00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:22,540
S1: Oh, they worked so well. She's like, these are awesome.

480
00:23:22,859 --> 00:23:25,460
S1: So now we're going to go back with her old

481
00:23:25,460 --> 00:23:28,340
S1: glass frames, and we're going to have this guy put

482
00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:33,159
S1: in these new, improved, wider look and usage and they're

483
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:39,200
S1: just great. They are fantastic. And so we're having lunch

484
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,959
S1: and she didn't have her new glasses with her. And

485
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,320
S1: she goes, oh boy, now that I don't have them

486
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,280
S1: I really appreciate him all the more. And I'm like, yes.

487
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,119
S1: Now that's just a simple way of saying focus is

488
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,200
S1: an important thing, isn't it, Ali?

489
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,919
S3: It is. And you obviously you want your vision to

490
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,200
S3: be in focus, but we want our life to be

491
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,560
S3: in focus because when things are a little blurry, we're

492
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,800
S3: not sure where we're going. We're not sure what we're

493
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,200
S3: doing that can cause problems.

494
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,760
S1: Yeah, it can in a big way. So when we

495
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,560
S1: look at Scripture, we find a call to be focused

496
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,879
S1: all over the place, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the

497
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,000
S1: author and perfecter of our faith. Classic Hebrews 12 one

498
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,520
S1: and two. But one of my favorite passages of Scripture

499
00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:33,670
S1: It is almost filled with humor because we're called to

500
00:24:33,710 --> 00:24:39,790
S1: redirect where our mind is thinking, and by doing that,

501
00:24:39,790 --> 00:24:43,750
S1: getting that focus on a different location. Are you ready

502
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:46,630
S1: for the promise here? We can then put to death

503
00:24:46,790 --> 00:24:53,710
S1: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, covetousness, idolatry. But wait.

504
00:24:53,710 --> 00:24:58,390
S1: There's more. Anger. Wrath. Malice. Slander. Obscene talk from your

505
00:24:58,390 --> 00:25:01,030
S1: mouth that'll cover most of mine.

506
00:25:02,869 --> 00:25:04,190
S2: I think most of everybody's.

507
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:09,709
S7: Hello? Check check check. Okay. It's like. It's like those commercials.

508
00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:12,470
S3: Like where they list the side effects of the medication.

509
00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:12,910
S7: No.

510
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:15,910
S3: It's like this list is not exhaustive, but it could

511
00:25:15,910 --> 00:25:18,310
S3: cause all these crazy.

512
00:25:18,430 --> 00:25:19,150
S8: So the value.

513
00:25:19,150 --> 00:25:23,109
S1: Proposition here, I'd say, is really good. Anyone else with

514
00:25:23,109 --> 00:25:23,590
S1: me on that?

515
00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:24,790
S7: Oh, yeah. Of course. Totally.

516
00:25:24,830 --> 00:25:27,150
S1: Right. So how do we get there? What's that got

517
00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:30,020
S1: to do with focus? Buckle up. Get a swig of water.

518
00:25:30,020 --> 00:25:32,540
S1: We're diving into Colossians three. Coming up.

519
00:25:32,940 --> 00:25:37,540
S5: She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.

520
00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:41,699
S5: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew

521
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:42,980
S5: on Moody Radio.

522
00:25:43,180 --> 00:25:45,820
S1: So a lot of us have wondered. It's no joking matter,

523
00:25:45,820 --> 00:25:56,500
S1: by the way. Sexual immorality, impurity, passion. Evil desire. Covetousness. Idolatry. Anger. Wrath. Malice. Slander.

524
00:25:56,540 --> 00:26:00,820
S1: Obscene talk from your mouth. Did you know that this

525
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:03,700
S1: whole list is written to Christ's followers in a little

526
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:05,420
S1: city by the Apostle Paul?

527
00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:08,179
S3: This is not for unbelievers.

528
00:26:08,260 --> 00:26:12,859
S1: Yeah, this is lordship stuff. This is discipleship. And what

529
00:26:12,859 --> 00:26:16,620
S1: he says about taking off these things all relate to

530
00:26:16,660 --> 00:26:18,900
S1: focus and we'll break that down straight ahead.

531
00:26:19,420 --> 00:26:23,460
S5: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl

532
00:26:23,460 --> 00:26:24,020
S5: and crew.

533
00:26:24,340 --> 00:26:27,689
S1: So we're talking focus this week. And what if I

534
00:26:27,690 --> 00:26:33,690
S1: told you? Focus of our mind on things above could

535
00:26:33,690 --> 00:26:38,850
S1: help eradicate and enhance our ability to put to death

536
00:26:38,890 --> 00:26:41,970
S1: a whole bunch of stuff. That's a grocery list that

537
00:26:41,970 --> 00:26:43,930
S1: Paul says, you got to get these out of your life.

538
00:26:43,930 --> 00:26:44,890
S1: Wouldn't that be great?

539
00:26:44,930 --> 00:26:49,010
S3: It is. It feels like an infomercial. Infomercial. Wouldn't you

540
00:26:49,050 --> 00:26:53,250
S3: like if there was a product? Yes I would. How

541
00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:54,490
S3: can I get this?

542
00:26:54,530 --> 00:26:56,369
S8: Oh, it's so great, so great.

543
00:26:56,369 --> 00:26:58,210
S1: Okay, so let me break it down for you. We

544
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S1: start in. If you just look today at Colossians chapter three,

545
00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:05,610
S1: verses one through 11, you get the whole enchilada right

546
00:27:05,609 --> 00:27:08,609
S1: there with some hot sauce right on top. It's all

547
00:27:08,650 --> 00:27:13,570
S1: right there. Okay. If then you have been raised with Christ,

548
00:27:13,570 --> 00:27:17,490
S1: let's just stop right there. Paul's not assuming, but he's

549
00:27:17,490 --> 00:27:21,250
S1: presuming this church has been transformed by the power of Christ, right?

550
00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:22,730
S7: Exactly.

551
00:27:22,770 --> 00:27:24,810
S2: Yeah. The if then would would.

552
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:25,760
S7: Determine.

553
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,480
S2: That. Preclude that.

554
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,040
S7: Yeah, right.

555
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,080
S1: And by the way, what he's saying here if then.

556
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,400
S1: So come on, guys, if you've been born again presuming

557
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,840
S1: most have not everyone but most have. Sure. If you've

558
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,480
S1: been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above.

559
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,320
S1: Now we're getting a hint as to what's going on

560
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,760
S1: with behaviors that need to be taken off. And he's

561
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,560
S1: going to get into all that. Seek things that are

562
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,560
S1: above where Christ is seated. Okay, that sounds at this

563
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,600
S1: point that sounds like, you know, super spiritual talk, right?

564
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,080
S1: All right. We need to seek the things above. You know,

565
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,520
S1: we're in you know, we're going to the to the

566
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,760
S1: by and by and well, we ought to be living there. No,

567
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,480
S1: it gets way more practical than that. Verse two. Set

568
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,840
S1: your mind on things that are above, not on things

569
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,960
S1: that are on earth. For you died, and your life

570
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,440
S1: is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is

571
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,590
S1: your life appears, then you also will appear with him

572
00:28:26,590 --> 00:28:28,229
S1: in glory. I'm going to say one phrase here, and

573
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:32,750
S1: then we're going to talk about this. Paul is admonishing,

574
00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:40,390
S1: encouraging the church of Colossae to let the practical issues

575
00:28:40,390 --> 00:28:44,590
S1: that they're battling with in this life be dealt with

576
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:49,950
S1: as we connect with the spiritual reality that we don't

577
00:28:49,950 --> 00:28:53,590
S1: live here anymore. We died and our life is hidden

578
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:55,510
S1: with Christ in God. Now, do we live here?

579
00:28:55,550 --> 00:28:57,190
S3: Ali of course.

580
00:28:57,230 --> 00:29:01,870
S1: Yeah, of course, but the but the spiritual reality that

581
00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:05,270
S1: our old self has died, that's been crucified with Christ.

582
00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:08,550
S1: It's no longer we who live, but Christ who lives

583
00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:11,870
S1: in us. We can now set our mind on things above.

584
00:29:11,870 --> 00:29:14,350
S1: And what Paul's proposing here is, the more we set

585
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:18,710
S1: our mind on things above, the more easy it is

586
00:29:18,830 --> 00:29:20,950
S1: to shed. Let me give you the list again. And

587
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:28,340
S1: this is amazing. Sexual immorality comes out of the chute. Impurity. Passion. Evil. Desire. Covetousness.

588
00:29:28,380 --> 00:29:32,020
S1: Isn't that interesting? Idolatry. They're lumped in with sexual immorality.

589
00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:34,220
S1: Or they're on the same list here.

590
00:29:34,260 --> 00:29:35,060
S2: Equal footing?

591
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:39,020
S1: Yeah. And then anger. Ooh, that's in there with that

592
00:29:39,660 --> 00:29:42,940
S1: hot list that we just had. Wrath, malice, slander and

593
00:29:42,980 --> 00:29:45,820
S1: obscene talk from your mouth. And do not lie to

594
00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:49,180
S1: one another, seeing that you put off the old self

595
00:29:49,180 --> 00:29:51,660
S1: in its practices and have put on the new self.

596
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:56,060
S1: What's amazing here? Ali in team we're in a mosh pit.

597
00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:59,180
S1: This one a little bit is that Paul is proposing

598
00:29:59,660 --> 00:30:03,260
S1: that what we are governed by in our mind, and

599
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:08,300
S1: where our focus is, will actually be the enabling grace

600
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:12,500
S1: and power of God to therefore put to death therefore

601
00:30:12,540 --> 00:30:17,780
S1: what is earthly in you. This is discipleship 101. Focus

602
00:30:17,780 --> 00:30:21,460
S1: changes everything with our trajectory. How cool is that?

603
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:24,080
S3: So are we talking just in terms of what we

604
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,160
S3: are thinking about? Is that what we can mean? Set

605
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,440
S3: your minds on. Think about or is it something more?

606
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,560
S1: You know, it is that. But I think I'm going

607
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680
S1: to go to Piper on this one. I think it's

608
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,200
S1: a mind enthralled with the new birth reality. You know

609
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,120
S1: what I mean? He's a big one on this huge

610
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,200
S1: vision for people, because that huge vision for people of

611
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,880
S1: what God is, who he's done and what we who

612
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,440
S1: we are in Jesus Christ. That gives us a whole new.

613
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,800
S1: When we live with earthly, puny, thinking man, we can

614
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,320
S1: have puny discipleship. But when our mind gets fixed on

615
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,680
S1: the new birth reality, Katie bar the door, things can

616
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,800
S1: begin to change.

617
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,600
S2: I mean, it's an analogy. I didn't come up with it.

618
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,000
S2: I've heard it many times before, but you know, when

619
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,880
S2: you're driving a car in order to to get down

620
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,400
S2: the road safely, see everything in front of you and

621
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,470
S2: navigate it clearly, you can't just be looking two feet

622
00:31:23,470 --> 00:31:26,190
S2: in front of the hood of your car. Boom! You

623
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:29,190
S2: have to be looking down the road focused on where

624
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:31,950
S2: you're going. Otherwise, you're not going to go straight. You're

625
00:31:31,950 --> 00:31:34,390
S2: not going to see the obstacles. You're going to hit things.

626
00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:36,790
S2: You're going to get down the road in a bad way.

627
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:41,150
S2: You have to look forward, be focused on where you're going,

628
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:43,470
S2: not where you are right now. And then you get

629
00:31:43,470 --> 00:31:46,150
S2: there safely. The same thing happens in our spiritual life.

630
00:31:46,150 --> 00:31:49,590
S2: We have to keep our eyes fixed on him, on Christ,

631
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:52,030
S2: in order for us to get down the road that

632
00:31:52,030 --> 00:31:53,430
S2: he wants us to be on.

633
00:31:53,670 --> 00:31:55,670
S1: Just think about this for a moment. Let's just wood

634
00:31:55,710 --> 00:31:59,190
S1: shop this a little bit. Imagine if we never had

635
00:31:59,190 --> 00:32:02,030
S1: a thought, a whole week long, about the fact that

636
00:32:02,030 --> 00:32:04,110
S1: we've died in our life is now hidden with Christ

637
00:32:04,110 --> 00:32:06,390
S1: in God. In fact, we don't even have a scattered

638
00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:11,950
S1: thought of wow. My, uh. My goodness, the promises. When

639
00:32:11,950 --> 00:32:16,030
S1: we're born again, we're transported into a brand new kingdom,

640
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:18,790
S1: a whole new realm. But if we never have a

641
00:32:18,790 --> 00:32:22,540
S1: mind set on that. It's kind of like what Paul

642
00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:26,420
S1: uses for the metaphor from the Isthmian Games. When we're

643
00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:29,580
S1: called to fix our eyes on Jesus. He's using the

644
00:32:29,580 --> 00:32:33,540
S1: metaphor from the early Isthmian Games, where they would put

645
00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:36,580
S1: idols at the end of the track, 100m, so there'd

646
00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:39,180
S1: be all these idols. And he said, much like these

647
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:42,380
S1: runners fix their eyes on that. We want you to

648
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:45,620
S1: fix your eyes and minds on this greater reward that

649
00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:48,540
S1: we have in Christ. Man, I gotta tell you, could

650
00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:52,460
S1: some of our living that's grieving God and actually stealing

651
00:32:52,460 --> 00:32:55,900
S1: joy from us? Could it be that Paul's right here,

652
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,420
S1: that we just, you know, people say you're so heavenly minded,

653
00:32:59,420 --> 00:33:01,979
S1: you're no earthly good? I've heard that be debunked by

654
00:33:02,020 --> 00:33:05,580
S1: great preachers. They said that's not possible. Yeah, Luther's big

655
00:33:05,580 --> 00:33:07,900
S1: on that one. He said, there's no such thing as

656
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:11,820
S1: being so heavenly minded. You're no earthly good. But what

657
00:33:11,820 --> 00:33:18,140
S1: if we fixed our mind on this incredible inheritance that

658
00:33:18,140 --> 00:33:20,970
S1: we have, the security that we have, the reality that

659
00:33:20,970 --> 00:33:22,730
S1: we died in our life is now hidden with Christ

660
00:33:22,730 --> 00:33:24,330
S1: and God. The only question I have is, how do

661
00:33:24,330 --> 00:33:27,090
S1: you do that? How do you do that? So let's

662
00:33:27,090 --> 00:33:28,690
S1: kick it around. How do we do that?

663
00:33:29,810 --> 00:33:33,729
S2: I think moments of pause in life, uh, you know,

664
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S2: we're talking about imagine if we if if someone went

665
00:33:37,410 --> 00:33:40,290
S2: through a whole week without thinking of this reality of

666
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S2: who we are in Christ and what he's done in

667
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S2: our lives and how he's transformed us, I think many

668
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S2: of us who are genuinely believers can go a very

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S2: long time, sometimes without pondering that and thinking about that,

670
00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:54,450
S2: because life gets so busy, we get so focused on

671
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S2: the things around us that we don't take the time.

672
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S2: And so I think pausing, removing ourselves from the things

673
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S2: around us, if even if not physically, just kind of

674
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S2: mentally and spiritually to to say, okay, God, what do

675
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S2: you say about me? Who am I? Take those moments

676
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S2: of of intentional pause to think about those and watch

677
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S2: it change your life.

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S1: Yeah, when we're in the middle of a fit of

679
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S1: anger because anger is mentioned here, what if we could

680
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S1: just grab ourselves and go hold it, I died, my

681
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,600
S1: life is now hidden with Christ. I do not have

682
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,640
S1: to be bound by the emotions of earth. How cool

683
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,680
S1: is that? What's your thought?

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S7: Super day. Say the identity is the big key for me.

685
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,759
S7: Because if you don't have your identity in Christ, then

686
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,480
S7: obviously there's not your focus. The culture, everything around you

687
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,680
S7: is more of an influence than your life in Christ.

688
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,839
S7: So to be able to be a witness and to

689
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S7: use that again, it's going to be that identity and

690
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S7: that identity that spills over into everything around you. So

691
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,120
S7: what is influencing you? What is filling up your cup?

692
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,560
S7: Is it your focus on Christ? Is it him? Is

693
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,719
S7: it his mercy? Is his grace? Is love, or is

694
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S7: it your culture, your status and everything else?

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S8: Yeah.

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S2: You know what I was thinking about, uh, Carl, as

697
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,520
S2: you were talking just a moment ago, a scam artist

698
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,480
S2: intends to get your money from you. And the way

699
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,440
S2: that they do it most effectively is by creating a

700
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S2: sense of urgency, a sense of. I can't stop to

701
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S2: think here. I can't stop to to ponder. I have

702
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S2: to act quickly. And when we're in things like anger,

703
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S2: when we're in things like fear or anxiousness, we act

704
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S2: quickly and we don't stop and pause. And I think

705
00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:29,190
S2: we trick ourselves and we get tricked into thinking that

706
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S2: we're not allowed to, that we're not allowed to take

707
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:34,590
S2: a moment to think and to ponder and to focus

708
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S2: on Christ. But we can, we can we can slow

709
00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:41,430
S2: our circumstances down and say, I'm not going to jump

710
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:43,910
S2: right at that because I need to stop and focus

711
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S2: on Christ.

712
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S1: Having pastored for 40 years, I've had a lot of

713
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S1: conversations with people on their deathbed or people that have

714
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S1: gotten a. They've had a meeting with a doctor, and

715
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:59,710
S1: doctor said it doesn't look good. And the richest of

716
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S1: faith people that I've ever met in my life are

717
00:36:02,030 --> 00:36:06,110
S1: those that are so mindset on the reality that heaven

718
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S1: is my home and it's coming soon, and there is

719
00:36:08,670 --> 00:36:12,430
S1: a richness that comes out of them, and it's almost

720
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S1: like naturally the things of Earth grow strangely dim in

721
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S1: the light of our future inheritance. It's just a powerful thing.

722
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S1: So a question that we have that'll get you thinking.

723
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S1: And maybe your day off to the right start. How

724
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S1: is God in the past? Used someone or something? A

725
00:36:30,739 --> 00:36:34,259
S1: devotional what is it that enthralls your mind with the

726
00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:37,299
S1: spiritual reality that you died in? Your life is now

727
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,500
S1: hidden with Christ in God. And it redirects your thinking

728
00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:44,540
S1: to a point where the things of earth grow strangely dim,

729
00:36:44,540 --> 00:36:48,100
S1: and you can more easily throw off these things that

730
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S1: we find in Colossians three one through 11. Tap into

731
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S1: that today. Redirect your mind. It could be listening here.

732
00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:58,620
S1: It could be a devo. It could be a spiritual

733
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S1: discipline that maybe you've lost. But capture it again. A

734
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S1: focused mind is a changed life.

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S4: You are listening to the Carl and Crew show. I'm

736
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S4: Diana super Di and so glad you've tuned in. Just

737
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:14,279
S4: a bit of a intermission. You know, you can hear

738
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S4: us live weekday mornings from 5 to 9 central. That's right.

739
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,120
S4: Carl and crew, weekday mornings, 5 to 9 central. With

740
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,440
S4: all the great ways to hear us. Just check it

741
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,960
S4: out at Carl and crew. Now back to the Carl

742
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,600
S4: and Crew show.

743
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S1: If you're new listening here or you didn't have, you

744
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,000
S1: weren't tuned in when Greg was with us before. We're

745
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S1: going to give you a quick flyby of kind of

746
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,920
S1: where we've been with a couple of awesome little workbooks

747
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,279
S1: that we're going to send a PDF to you that

748
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,960
S1: you can just download and bada bing, bada boom, you

749
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,320
S1: got it. And if you're willing to put some work

750
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960
S1: into and by the way, this is great work to do,

751
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,080
S1: work into just sitting down with God, reviewing where you've

752
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,399
S1: been in life, then you'll have better focus of where

753
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S1: you're going. So we're going to have that, and we're

754
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S1: going to also talk to Greg today about this whole issue,

755
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S1: issue of identity. Why is it so vitally important to

756
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S1: be firmly grounded in who we are in Jesus. So

757
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:19,390
S1: hang on, guys. This is we, the kingdom. Holy water.

758
00:38:19,390 --> 00:38:21,870
S1: It's Carl and crew helping you take your next step

759
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S1: with Jesus. And that requires less time. I saw keeping

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S1: your eyes focused on him.

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S5: A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is

762
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S5: in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

763
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S1: Carl and crew. I remember the first time I realized

764
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S1: I need glasses that will help me read text, and boy,

765
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S1: was it in an uncomfortable spot.

766
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S3: Why? Because you didn't want to admit it or.

767
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S1: Well, no, I mean, I was I was wrestling, no joking.

768
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S1: True story. I am standing on a platform in Anchorage,

769
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S1: Alaska at a high school, and I've got, oh, probably

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S1: 800 or so folks sitting in front of me on

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S1: the floor. And then it goes up, uh, on some

772
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S1: bleachers and another several hundred there. And I am opening

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S1: the word, and my notes are in a big enough font,

774
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S1: and I go to look at the word, and I.

775
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S1: I'm trying to adjust and focus while I'm.

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S3: Oh, no.

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S1: Preaching and and I'm backing away and I'm not going

778
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S1: to say anything. So I'm backing away and it's getting blurry.

779
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S1: And I move in and I got too close, apparently.

780
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S1: And it's getting blurry. And there was like this little

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S1: sweet spot of about 2 or 3in that I had

782
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S1: to stay in. And when I got done that day,

783
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S1: I looked at my bride. I said, babe, I got

784
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S1: to go get some glasses. I can't read the scripture

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S1: font well enough, especially with the lighting, the way it

786
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S1: was and everything. I'm like, we got problems here. Focus

787
00:39:58,140 --> 00:40:02,060
S1: is important. But here's the problem with focus. Sometimes we

788
00:40:02,060 --> 00:40:06,140
S1: have to look at stuff that ain't pretty in order

789
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S1: to move to what is beautiful. Does that make sense?

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S3: It does, it does. And I think it's true for

791
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S3: for everyone, whether you have you know, some people have

792
00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:18,730
S3: been through a lot more trauma, traumatic events than other people.

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S3: Everybody has things about their past that affect how they

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S3: live currently.

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S1: Yeah, I was telling her church downtown, campus 180 Chicago.

796
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S1: I was telling him, look, you all were raised in

797
00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:32,609
S1: dysfunctional families because we're there's no such thing as a

798
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S1: perfect family. And there's things that come along the way

799
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S1: that can really mess with our focus if our goal

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S1: is to fix our eyes on Jesus. Greg Dempster with

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S1: us right now. Greg. That's the whole purpose of journey,

802
00:40:45,850 --> 00:40:48,210
S1: isn't it? Not to make us sick to our stomach

803
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S1: over what we need to see, but help us see

804
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S1: something that's going to walk us into freedom, right, my man?

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S9: Well, it's just a matter of closing the gap between

806
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S9: what we believe to be true about God and what

807
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S9: we're experiencing daily. God wants that chasm to shrink to

808
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S9: the point that what I'm believing about God is making

809
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S9: its way in Technicolor into what I'm experiencing day and night.

810
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S9: He wants to close that up and cause us to

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S9: experience real freedom in life.

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S3: God, Greg Dempster with us right now of Christ Life Ministries.

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S3: You know, for many people looking back at their past,

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S3: at their relationships with the the mom and dad or

815
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S3: the mom and dad figure they had in their life

816
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S3: can bring a lot of pain for some people. There's

817
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S3: some good memories. There's some not so good memories. What

818
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,200
S3: is the value of going back and looking at how

819
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S3: you were shaped in your younger years?

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S9: I think it's the only way that you actually get

821
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S9: free that unresolved issues don't resolve themselves. We have to

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S9: go back and invite God to bring his perspective to

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S9: the things that have shaped our minds. I mean, that's

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S9: Romans 12 two. We we we only experience renewal through

825
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S9: really massive change in how we perceive and interpret life,

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S9: and those experiences shape the mind and shape perspective and become,

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S9: in some ways governing ideas that drive us forward, even

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S9: though we might not be aware of them.

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S1: Yeah, we all have these governing ideas, and I love

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S1: that term that you use all the time, Greg, because

831
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S1: whether it's manifests itself in a crazy way or it's

832
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S1: just shaping our desire to be perceived in a certain way,

833
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:38,190
S1: it could look benign, but it's really got a long tail.

834
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S1: And I remember, uh, looking back at my especially middle

835
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S1: school years, I look back and I go, wow, that's

836
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S1: why I Stan, fill in the blank. That's why, um,

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S1: ditan fill in the blank. I'm just picking a couple

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S1: of friends. And as I look back at that, I realized,

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S1: my goodness, my home was relative to my buddies, really intact.

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S1: But even as I look back, some of what happened

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S1: in my home set me on a course for something

842
00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:19,580
S1: that was not in keeping with even what God would

843
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S1: have for my life. We live in a broken and

844
00:43:22,380 --> 00:43:28,220
S1: fallen world, but there's value at looking at why we

845
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S1: do what we do. Greg, and how you work with

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S1: these high level spiritual leaders, some mega-church pastors leading large

847
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S1: Christian organizations, and now you've worked with thousands of folks

848
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S1: here in the Boom crew via this resource. We're going

849
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S1: to give you in a moment here, but what's on

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S1: your heart to the person who says, ah, I don't

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S1: want to look back. I don't want to do that.

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00:43:51,260 --> 00:43:54,260
S1: I don't I don't need to. I can just look

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S1: at Scripture and go forward here.

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S9: A couple things. Isaiah 61 comes to mind where Jesus

855
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:05,120
S9: unveils his job description on earth. He came to set

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S9: captives free. And the reality is that the only people

857
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S9: who are left behind are people who aren't willing to

858
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S9: admit that they have need for him. And my heart

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00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,560
S9: goes out to all of your listeners. There's there's real freedom.

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00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,480
S9: There's freedom to be experienced in Jesus if you'll just

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S9: give him margin to do so. Psalm 51 six. Very

862
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,160
S9: clearly it's a psalm of David says this surely you

863
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S9: desire truth in my innermost being. That's where God's going

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S9: to be working. Uh, the best thing that we can

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S9: do is just settle our hearts before him, ask him

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S9: for help, let him do the work. Let him wade

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S9: into things that we've not been able to wade into,

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S9: and let him begin to bring the change that's actually

869
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S9: going to unlock the door of your life and and

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S9: help you experience the freedom you've always desired.

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S3: Greg, there has been definitely a movement toward more of

872
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,759
S3: a therapeutic approach to just about everything. I don't know

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S3: that I've ever heard more words used. Narcissism, trauma, um,

874
00:45:09,550 --> 00:45:12,950
S3: all kind of things that people now use as they

875
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:15,750
S3: just talk about their normal story. It has made some

876
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:20,550
S3: people skeptical of what they might think as psychobabble, or

877
00:45:20,590 --> 00:45:23,310
S3: things that are for the world and not for the church.

878
00:45:23,350 --> 00:45:25,790
S3: How do we walk on that high ridge where we

879
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S3: use what God has given us, but we don't fall

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00:45:28,670 --> 00:45:32,070
S3: off the cliff into a very worldly way of looking

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S3: at life experience?

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00:45:33,870 --> 00:45:38,630
S9: You know, life change really is has three phases that

883
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:42,550
S9: we become aware. We need to subject what we discover

884
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:46,830
S9: to the counseling work of the Holy Spirit. John 1613

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00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:51,830
S9: says that the Spirit of Christ, uh, he longs to

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S9: bring us into truth about all things, and that work

887
00:45:55,590 --> 00:45:57,750
S9: of God in us has to lead us to the

888
00:45:57,750 --> 00:46:01,870
S9: third phase of healing, which is John 15. Abiding relationship.

889
00:46:01,870 --> 00:46:04,500
S9: The problem that we have in the therapeutical world is

890
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:10,180
S9: the conversation ends with self-regulation. But regarding God, the conversation

891
00:46:10,180 --> 00:46:13,820
S9: ends with transformation that he wants to bring us from

892
00:46:13,820 --> 00:46:19,300
S9: broken and stuck to interrelationship where we can hear his voice. Uh,

893
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:23,700
S9: we can bring things that are particularly damaging or distorted

894
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:28,700
S9: to him and have him experience him, step in his

895
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:31,060
S9: light on it, and bring change where there needs to

896
00:46:31,060 --> 00:46:31,819
S9: be change.

897
00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:34,379
S1: Coming up here in a moment, we're going to we're

898
00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:37,860
S1: going to give you some stories that will help connect

899
00:46:37,860 --> 00:46:41,299
S1: you to this reality. But there's some of you that

900
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:47,740
S1: have this sin, shame, repent, repeat, cycle. And you're feeling like,

901
00:46:47,739 --> 00:46:50,900
S1: how can I get off of this? And at some level,

902
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:55,100
S1: we all have this until the power of the Holy

903
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:59,060
S1: Spirit comes in and helps us. Romans 813 put to

904
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:01,890
S1: death these deeds of the flesh that are born out

905
00:47:01,890 --> 00:47:05,850
S1: of patterns in our life. We'll talk about breaking that cycle.

906
00:47:05,850 --> 00:47:06,450
S1: Coming up.

907
00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:11,810
S5: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and crew.

908
00:47:11,930 --> 00:47:14,049
S3: We have Greg Dempster with us right now, founder and

909
00:47:14,050 --> 00:47:17,890
S3: director of Christ Life Ministries, unique ministry that helps Christian

910
00:47:17,890 --> 00:47:21,290
S3: leaders remove the chasm that often exists between what they

911
00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:25,210
S3: believe and what they're actually experiencing daily in their walk

912
00:47:25,210 --> 00:47:27,650
S3: with God. Give us a story, Greg, that's fresh on

913
00:47:27,650 --> 00:47:30,930
S3: your heart, because so much of this chasm exists because

914
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:33,410
S3: there's a bit of an identity crisis going on.

915
00:47:33,650 --> 00:47:37,489
S10: That's exactly it. It's just it's flawed perspective.

916
00:47:38,050 --> 00:47:44,609
S9: Flawed interpretation of life. I've got a friend, Doug. He

917
00:47:45,130 --> 00:47:49,690
S9: leads a ministry that's influencing hundreds and hundreds of people

918
00:47:50,170 --> 00:47:54,330
S9: in the Midwest. He grew up a special kid, a

919
00:47:54,330 --> 00:47:58,170
S9: kid who had high intellect when he was in kindergarten.

920
00:47:58,450 --> 00:48:03,960
S9: They gave him a bunch of tests. Intellect tests. He

921
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,520
S9: skips right out of kindergarten into first grade, goes through

922
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,680
S9: first grade, and then skipped second grade into third grade.

923
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,000
S9: And his parents and the people that were testing him said,

924
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,600
S9: you have a generational talent. You're gifted, and you're going

925
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,640
S9: to make huge impact in this earth as a result

926
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,840
S9: of your IQ and your ability. And that rested on

927
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,799
S9: him as a kid. Some kid kids would be thoroughly excited.

928
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,359
S9: I mean, they're not failing their algebra test. They're. They're like,

929
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,040
S9: oh my gosh, I've got, uh, reserves. But this guy,

930
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,319
S9: his parents regular messaging, I don't even know that they

931
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,040
S9: knew what they were doing. But he grew up with

932
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,680
S9: his weight that he had to meet and exceed expectation,

933
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,359
S9: even though he had the IQ for it. He had

934
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,069
S9: to meet and exceed Expectation to be okay. What it

935
00:49:01,070 --> 00:49:04,029
S9: brought about in his life was this regular occurrence, in

936
00:49:04,030 --> 00:49:07,230
S9: his perspective of things getting in the way of him

937
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:11,509
S9: actually fulfilling his destiny, and even to the church that

938
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:19,830
S9: he planted his wife's illness issues, his kids infertility is

939
00:49:19,870 --> 00:49:23,910
S9: adopted kids and their struggles. There was always something in

940
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:28,110
S9: the way of him accomplishing what he needed to accomplish

941
00:49:28,110 --> 00:49:31,710
S9: to be okay. And he came in with this weight

942
00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:36,229
S9: that seemed to be smothering his ability to actually even

943
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:40,430
S9: engage in and enjoy life. And and God met him there,

944
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:45,109
S9: identified the distortion that was driving his life, and he

945
00:49:45,110 --> 00:49:49,870
S9: experienced real renovation. Like what Paul says in Philippians three,

946
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:53,950
S9: he learned how to leave behind the past and the

947
00:49:53,950 --> 00:49:57,609
S9: distorted perspective and move on towards what's ahead. He he

948
00:49:57,610 --> 00:50:00,210
S9: learned to no longer. He experienced God in such a

949
00:50:00,210 --> 00:50:03,650
S9: dynamic way that he no longer was defined, controlled, or

950
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:08,370
S9: distracted by his past or those expectations. That's what God

951
00:50:08,370 --> 00:50:11,009
S9: wants through the renewal process to set us up, to

952
00:50:11,010 --> 00:50:13,170
S9: have nothing to prove, nothing to gain, nothing to lose.

953
00:50:13,489 --> 00:50:18,290
S1: Satisfaction. Security, significance. We've been talking those words here a lot,

954
00:50:18,330 --> 00:50:20,090
S1: haven't we, over the last few months, guys?

955
00:50:20,130 --> 00:50:20,610
S3: Yes.

956
00:50:20,730 --> 00:50:25,489
S1: Um, they're big words. And, you know, it's interesting, Greg,

957
00:50:25,489 --> 00:50:29,210
S1: because if we boil discipleship down to some simple things,

958
00:50:29,210 --> 00:50:33,370
S1: it's it's getting freed from a world system that takes

959
00:50:33,370 --> 00:50:36,290
S1: us into this new kingdom realm that allows us to

960
00:50:36,330 --> 00:50:43,850
S1: experience security, significant, and satisfaction in Christ alone. And my goodness,

961
00:50:43,850 --> 00:50:47,970
S1: that's a light yoke to someone who feels like that

962
00:50:47,969 --> 00:50:51,729
S1: is so pick and elusive. That sounds great, Karl. But

963
00:50:51,730 --> 00:50:57,080
S1: I'm still digging and scraping to find significant security and satisfaction.

964
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,920
S1: What's in that gap that we question whether or not

965
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,200
S1: God really can pull it off? Greg.

966
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:03,960
S10: You know.

967
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,120
S9: It's going to what we're actually offering on the radio today,

968
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,280
S9: these these free resources, what we need to do if.

969
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,960
S9: Romans 12 two is hitting the bullseye regarding transformation that

970
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,640
S9: Paul says metamorphosis happens through the renewal of the mind,

971
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,400
S9: which the Greek word is noose, which represents how we

972
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,960
S9: perceive and understand interpret life. We've got to ask the question,

973
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,920
S9: how was my mind formed? What are the the underlying

974
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,040
S9: governing ideas that drive me? That's the first step to

975
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:42,520
S9: do the work necessary to understand what's under the surface

976
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,040
S9: guiding my life.

977
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,160
S1: What's making me do what I do here.

978
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,120
S9: Come on, man, that's exactly it. And that's where freedom.

979
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,360
S9: That's where freedom begins.

980
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,160
S3: Greg Dempster, our guest right now, Christ's Life Ministries, he

981
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,509
S3: mentioned this, the resources he has, this journey workbook that

982
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:59,549
S3: you can go through. There's a first part and a

983
00:51:59,550 --> 00:52:03,430
S3: second part with some reflection questions, where you can kind

984
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:06,310
S3: of reflect on your family of origin by actually asking

985
00:52:06,310 --> 00:52:08,509
S3: a series of questions, as if you were sitting down

986
00:52:08,510 --> 00:52:10,469
S3: in the office with someone. You could do this on

987
00:52:10,469 --> 00:52:13,310
S3: your own time. Very helpful. I've done it myself. Our

988
00:52:13,310 --> 00:52:15,989
S3: team has done it. Text the word life. If you

989
00:52:15,989 --> 00:52:22,230
S3: want access to these resources, text life to 800 555 7898.

990
00:52:22,270 --> 00:52:27,149
S3: Text life to 800 555 7898. You're going to want

991
00:52:27,150 --> 00:52:28,790
S3: to start with journey one.

992
00:52:28,989 --> 00:52:31,509
S1: Yeah, yeah. It's good. Let me do a testimony here.

993
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:33,230
S1: I've known Greg for a lot of years. We've been

994
00:52:33,230 --> 00:52:36,430
S1: in ministry together. What I love about Greg is not

995
00:52:36,430 --> 00:52:39,750
S1: only is he a God chaser, he loves the Lord

996
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:42,510
S1: so much, and he loves people, and he's found freedom

997
00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:44,910
S1: in Christ, and he's wanting to pass that on to others.

998
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:48,550
S1: And my bride and I have gone through, uh, this,

999
00:52:48,750 --> 00:52:53,029
S1: these workbooks, um, and not just once, because it's good

1000
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:56,020
S1: to have touch points. And guys, I am not a

1001
00:52:56,020 --> 00:52:58,420
S1: backward looking guy. Is that fair, Ali?

1002
00:52:58,460 --> 00:53:00,500
S3: Sure, I would say that's correct.

1003
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:03,620
S1: I am not a backward looking guy. That's not my

1004
00:53:03,620 --> 00:53:07,739
S1: spiritual gift. My spiritual gift is front windshield. I do

1005
00:53:07,739 --> 00:53:10,500
S1: not live with a rear view mirror, but in this

1006
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:13,140
S1: case we have to because we got to figure out

1007
00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:15,300
S1: why in the world am I doing what I'm doing.

1008
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:17,820
S1: And some of you know exactly what I'm talking about

1009
00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:20,460
S1: right now. And we've got a link for you. Text

1010
00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:25,340
S1: life to 800 555 78, 98. Just one word. Life

1011
00:53:25,340 --> 00:53:30,660
S1: to 800 555 7898 one word life.

1012
00:53:31,180 --> 00:53:33,900
S5: You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't

1013
00:53:33,940 --> 00:53:37,739
S5: take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.

1014
00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:40,540
S5: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

1015
00:53:40,739 --> 00:53:43,740
S1: Yeah, boy, I don't have one. I've got two stories

1016
00:53:43,739 --> 00:53:46,860
S1: from Alaska right now. Two? Count them. We got two.

1017
00:53:47,060 --> 00:53:50,180
S1: We got two back to back. Yeah, yeah, gotta do it.

1018
00:53:50,180 --> 00:53:52,850
S1: I was contemplating which one to talk about here, but

1019
00:53:52,850 --> 00:53:54,770
S1: I got to do them both. Both has to do

1020
00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:58,810
S1: with focus. We're talking this whole week about getting our focus.

1021
00:53:59,170 --> 00:54:04,610
S1: And boy, when you lack focus, you can get in trouble, right?

1022
00:54:04,650 --> 00:54:08,330
S3: Well, you know my brain, the way my brain wires,

1023
00:54:08,370 --> 00:54:09,730
S3: you know, they talk about how you can have so

1024
00:54:09,730 --> 00:54:13,130
S3: many open boxes at the same time. So I routinely

1025
00:54:13,130 --> 00:54:14,890
S3: will have, like, a bunch of stuff that I need

1026
00:54:14,890 --> 00:54:16,930
S3: to do, and I will find myself in my house

1027
00:54:16,930 --> 00:54:19,730
S3: and I'll start unloading the dishwasher. I'll get the top

1028
00:54:19,730 --> 00:54:22,489
S3: rack emptied, the bottom rack still out, and then I'll

1029
00:54:22,489 --> 00:54:24,649
S3: remember that I needed to order something for my son

1030
00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:27,250
S3: that he asked for on Amazon. So I'll go do

1031
00:54:27,250 --> 00:54:29,490
S3: that and then I'll remember, oh, I need to also

1032
00:54:29,489 --> 00:54:31,770
S3: move the clothes from the washer to the dryer. And

1033
00:54:31,770 --> 00:54:34,490
S3: so within a span of like 10 to 15 minutes,

1034
00:54:34,489 --> 00:54:38,609
S3: I will have like 7 or 8 different things that

1035
00:54:38,610 --> 00:54:41,330
S3: I've started because my brain pings that I need to

1036
00:54:41,330 --> 00:54:44,569
S3: do this next. And it is a struggle for me

1037
00:54:44,570 --> 00:54:48,089
S3: sometimes to focus in on one thing. I don't know

1038
00:54:48,090 --> 00:54:50,089
S3: if I'm the only one, but this is this is

1039
00:54:50,090 --> 00:54:51,000
S3: a thing for me.

1040
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,440
S1: Yeah. And and the interesting thing about focus is sometimes

1041
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,560
S1: there's just some really practical things that we can do.

1042
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,400
S1: So I want to take you to Alaska commercial fishing.

1043
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,439
S1: I spent eight, eight seasons commercial fishing on the west

1044
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,400
S1: coast of Alaska in a limited entry fishery for salmon,

1045
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,200
S1: sockeye salmon, red salmon, incredible fish, an incredible fishery. And

1046
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,400
S1: I love the fishery because the harder you work, the

1047
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,480
S1: more you made. And that was right up my alley.

1048
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,040
S1: It's like, yeah, put me, put me in a place

1049
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,560
S1: where the more the harder you work, the more you make.

1050
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:31,360
S1: And I was fired up. So we found out soon.

1051
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,160
S1: That boy, if you don't have clarity, looking out the

1052
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,680
S1: front windshield of a 32 foot gillnetter. And that's the.

1053
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,160
S1: That's the biggest vessel you can have in Bristol Bay.

1054
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,880
S1: And some of you might be like, good grief, aren't

1055
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,040
S1: those waves almost bigger than the boats? At times they are.

1056
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,040
S1: And it can get not 30ft, but they we get

1057
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:52,870
S1: massive sea swells and storms come in and few little

1058
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:56,150
S1: 32 footer feels like a cork bobbing around out there.

1059
00:55:56,550 --> 00:55:59,229
S1: But I got I was on the I was the

1060
00:55:59,230 --> 00:56:02,189
S1: rain-x man. I was the rain-x man.

1061
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:03,150
S3: The rain-x.

1062
00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:05,469
S1: Yep. You ever heard of Rain-x?

1063
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:06,390
S11: Never heard of Rain-x.

1064
00:56:06,550 --> 00:56:08,629
S3: The thing that you wipe on the windshield so that.

1065
00:56:08,830 --> 00:56:09,750
S8: Yes.

1066
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:12,790
S1: And it works. So let me tell you, salt water

1067
00:56:12,830 --> 00:56:15,350
S1: is an interesting thing. So you have these windshield wipers

1068
00:56:15,350 --> 00:56:18,469
S1: on our in our bridge that you would turn on

1069
00:56:18,469 --> 00:56:21,029
S1: when you're in a storm and you're taking what we'd

1070
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:24,350
S1: call whitewater when it's just splashing up. But boy, when

1071
00:56:24,350 --> 00:56:27,149
S1: it's blue water. When you can see blue water. You

1072
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:30,990
S1: are going into a wave. You're. You're deep enough into

1073
00:56:30,989 --> 00:56:34,109
S1: that wave. When you see blue, you're not getting hit

1074
00:56:34,110 --> 00:56:37,990
S1: with a wave. You are going through it like a submarine.

1075
00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:39,070
S3: That's kind of scary.

1076
00:56:39,110 --> 00:56:42,549
S1: Yeah, it can be a little unnerving, but what the

1077
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:46,509
S1: the added problem here is there's nets out in the

1078
00:56:46,510 --> 00:56:50,330
S1: water caulk lines. And if you can't see those cork lines,

1079
00:56:50,330 --> 00:56:52,890
S1: you are going to go right over the top of them.

1080
00:56:52,890 --> 00:56:56,330
S1: Get them in your it's called the wheel or the propeller.

1081
00:56:56,370 --> 00:56:59,410
S1: We call them the wheel and you get gear in

1082
00:56:59,410 --> 00:57:02,169
S1: the wheel. Then you're dead in the water. Now when

1083
00:57:02,170 --> 00:57:06,370
S1: you've got cork line, lead line from somebody else's gear

1084
00:57:06,530 --> 00:57:10,770
S1: wrapped around your wheel, you have no you have no

1085
00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:14,689
S1: way to move. Now you get sideways in those waves.

1086
00:57:14,690 --> 00:57:17,970
S1: And we've seen boats capsize in a heartbeat just like that.

1087
00:57:18,010 --> 00:57:19,730
S2: What do you do in a scenario like that? Because

1088
00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:23,210
S2: the propellers under the water. So how do you fix that?

1089
00:57:23,490 --> 00:57:27,730
S1: Oh, you. I've, I've had to go in absolutely freezing

1090
00:57:27,730 --> 00:57:30,690
S1: cold water. Hold my breath. Go down.

1091
00:57:30,730 --> 00:57:31,330
S2: Oh man.

1092
00:57:31,370 --> 00:57:35,850
S1: Boom. Underneath, underneath the keel. With as much air as

1093
00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:39,730
S1: I've gotten my lungs. And take a serrated knife. And

1094
00:57:39,770 --> 00:57:42,810
S1: just around the shaft of the of the prop.

1095
00:57:43,010 --> 00:57:43,570
S4: Like a scene in.

1096
00:57:43,570 --> 00:57:43,970
S1: A movie.

1097
00:57:44,010 --> 00:57:44,730
S2: Yeah. For real?

1098
00:57:44,770 --> 00:57:47,440
S1: Yeah. And then you come up and if it's really bad,

1099
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,040
S1: we would have to pay guys with, uh, dry suits

1100
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,160
S1: and and I'm talking the full helmet and everything where

1101
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,640
S1: they can go down with airlines. Get underneath there. Uh,

1102
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,480
S1: we've we've had messes before, so you got to be

1103
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,520
S1: able to see out the front. You got to be

1104
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,240
S1: able to see what's going on. And I was right

1105
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,280
S1: next man. Because I'm like, man, we do not want

1106
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,560
S1: to have obscured visibility because the last thing you want

1107
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,920
S1: to do is get web in the wheel, gear in

1108
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,840
S1: the wheel. It's because it shuts down your ability to

1109
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,000
S1: go out and lay out your gear and make money.

1110
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,360
S1: And it ticks off the other guys that you ran

1111
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,760
S1: over their gear. Trust me, I've seen crazy things happen

1112
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,200
S1: out there. Like, I can't get into too many details,

1113
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,960
S1: but I've seen guys step out onto their boat deck

1114
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:41,160
S1: with guns in hand, yelling and screaming, what are you doing?

1115
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,560
S1: And they use some colorful language, I might add.

1116
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,920
S2: I could imagine out there.

1117
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,430
S1: So here's the deal. Rain-x works wonders, and I wouldn't

1118
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:52,230
S1: put it on a little bit. I would put it on,

1119
00:58:52,270 --> 00:58:54,950
S1: let it dry, put it on, let it dry, put

1120
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:57,070
S1: it on, let it dry like 4 or 5 coats

1121
00:58:57,070 --> 00:59:00,350
S1: of this stuff. And man, we'd be submarining through these waves.

1122
00:59:00,590 --> 00:59:03,950
S1: And it's just like sheets just falling off. Now, it

1123
00:59:03,950 --> 00:59:07,230
S1: doesn't last long in saltwater. So if you've got a

1124
00:59:07,550 --> 00:59:09,950
S1: 12 hours of fishery by the end of it, it's

1125
00:59:09,950 --> 00:59:12,390
S1: starting to get foggy. All right. That's one illustration of

1126
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:16,110
S1: why you need focus. It helps you if you can

1127
00:59:16,110 --> 00:59:20,310
S1: see clearly where you're going, man. It helps you avoid challenges.

1128
00:59:20,590 --> 00:59:23,630
S1: But there's another story. And I want to get to

1129
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:27,350
S1: that coming up because I've shared this once. It's been

1130
00:59:27,350 --> 00:59:30,590
S1: a long time, maybe a couple of times. But there

1131
00:59:30,590 --> 00:59:37,750
S1: is there's a story that is an analogy for why

1132
00:59:38,070 --> 00:59:43,190
S1: we need to have someone else's eyes on the situation

1133
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:46,419
S1: and that someone else's God and this one will drive

1134
00:59:46,420 --> 00:59:49,420
S1: it home. This is Micah Tyler. God did it. He

1135
00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:52,460
S1: did it. He did it. And aren't we glad for it?

1136
00:59:53,180 --> 00:59:56,940
S5: Your spiritual pit stop to keep you going in the race.

1137
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:59,260
S5: You're listening to Carl and crew.

1138
00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:01,580
S1: It's Carl and crew helping you take your next step

1139
01:00:01,580 --> 01:00:05,460
S1: with Jesus. We're talking focus and actually getting our minds

1140
01:00:05,460 --> 01:00:09,419
S1: set on things above, for we died and our life

1141
01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:11,540
S1: is hidden with Christ in God. And it's not an

1142
01:00:11,540 --> 01:00:14,580
S1: exercise of just let's just think about good stuff. It's

1143
01:00:14,580 --> 01:00:18,500
S1: a mind connected with the new kingdom, the new reality

1144
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:21,220
S1: of this new life that we have in Christ, and

1145
01:00:21,260 --> 01:00:25,260
S1: being showered then with the grace and favor from a

1146
01:00:25,300 --> 01:00:27,180
S1: God who has a perspective on our life that we

1147
01:00:27,220 --> 01:00:29,900
S1: don't have with the kind of tools that we need to,

1148
01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:32,100
S1: as it goes on to say here, put to death

1149
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,419
S1: therefore what is earthly in you, and then it gives

1150
01:00:34,420 --> 01:00:37,500
S1: this whole list. So let me take you to Alaska.

1151
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:40,660
S1: Here we're given two stories. All right, man, going to Alaska.

1152
01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:43,260
S1: And as I'm rehearsing this in my mind, I realize

1153
01:00:43,570 --> 01:00:45,090
S1: Alaska is a crazy place.

1154
01:00:45,130 --> 01:00:45,650
S3: It is.

1155
01:00:45,770 --> 01:00:46,490
S1: Just dawning.

1156
01:00:46,490 --> 01:00:49,010
S3: On me your stories are wild.

1157
01:00:49,050 --> 01:00:50,290
S2: It's the real wild West.

1158
01:00:50,490 --> 01:00:54,890
S1: So in this fishery where we fished in Bristol Bay

1159
01:00:55,370 --> 01:00:58,130
S1: and I was out there for eight seasons, and it

1160
01:00:58,130 --> 01:01:02,130
S1: was it was amazing. The one thing that you noticed

1161
01:01:02,130 --> 01:01:05,690
S1: when you were fishing is that there were some indicators

1162
01:01:05,690 --> 01:01:08,970
S1: that fish were coming your way. Sometimes we called them jumpers,

1163
01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:13,010
S1: and there were occasions when we saw a whole wall

1164
01:01:13,290 --> 01:01:17,650
S1: of what's coming at our net and we're like jumpers, jumpers.

1165
01:01:17,690 --> 01:01:21,210
S1: And with that jump, when you see maybe ten, 20, 30,

1166
01:01:21,250 --> 01:01:25,690
S1: on occasion, 100 200 jumpers in the air at one time,

1167
01:01:25,690 --> 01:01:29,890
S1: that means there are tens of thousands of salmon represented

1168
01:01:29,890 --> 01:01:32,930
S1: below the water. And when they would hit the gear,

1169
01:01:33,410 --> 01:01:35,770
S1: they would put a bend in the gear. That's three

1170
01:01:35,810 --> 01:01:39,050
S1: football fields long of gear out there, and the gear

1171
01:01:39,090 --> 01:01:42,400
S1: would bend. So you're seeing corks across the water for

1172
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,240
S1: 300 yards. And the whole, I mean, different portions of

1173
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,640
S1: the net or the whole net would just surge. And,

1174
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,919
S1: you know, you've got ten, £15,000 of salmon pouring in there.

1175
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,919
S1: Is anyone else exhilarated by this? I mean, it's just

1176
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,880
S1: one of the coolest things on the planet. I'm not a.

1177
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,919
S2: Fisherman, but looking at it, I'm sure it's an amazing

1178
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,400
S2: sight to see those nets bend.

1179
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,040
S4: Yeah. Your excitement in it.

1180
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,800
S1: Oh my goodness. Well, the crazy maker is. We found out. Oh,

1181
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,720
S1: we don't have the best vantage point. And we soon

1182
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,080
S1: found out that you get a guy, a friend up

1183
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,160
S1: in a Super Cub or a 180, a small little

1184
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,280
S1: bush plane, a little taildragger, not tricycle gear because you

1185
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,800
S1: can't land on beaches with those tricycle gear things. You

1186
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,920
S1: get these taildraggers that can get up and out and

1187
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,120
S1: they've got big balloon tires. They can land on beaches,

1188
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,760
S1: you get them up in the air at about 1000ft,

1189
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,920
S1: 1500 feet, and they can see stuff as in dollar

1190
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:45,710
S1: bills swimming through the ocean. Yeah. Fish that we couldn't see.

1191
01:02:46,990 --> 01:02:49,750
S1: Now they outlawed. Or at least for a time. They did.

1192
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:54,950
S1: They outlawed having these planes up there because they're flying

1193
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:58,630
S1: at a certain altitude. They're spotting fish and they're not looking.

1194
01:02:58,630 --> 01:03:01,189
S1: And we had mid-air collisions that took lives of these

1195
01:03:01,190 --> 01:03:04,830
S1: planes so they'd smack into one another up at elevation

1196
01:03:04,830 --> 01:03:07,270
S1: trying to spot these fish because they're making like 10%

1197
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:09,910
S1: of the haul. So they've got a vested interest in

1198
01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:13,189
S1: put these guys on fish. Well, one day we were

1199
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:17,510
S1: in the southern district of Ugashik, and we've got a

1200
01:03:17,550 --> 01:03:21,990
S1: VHS radio tuned to our spotter pilot, and he's saying,

1201
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:25,470
S1: go south, go south. And I'm like, all right, we're

1202
01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:28,510
S1: going south. This is awesome. And as we're going south now,

1203
01:03:28,510 --> 01:03:32,150
S1: I'm seeing fish pour into the nets around us. And

1204
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:35,950
S1: I mean, they're popping in and I'm like, Marvin, he's

1205
01:03:35,950 --> 01:03:39,230
S1: up on the flying bridge here, the VHS radio said, Marvin,

1206
01:03:39,230 --> 01:03:42,250
S1: let's throw it out. Let's slap it out. That's what

1207
01:03:42,250 --> 01:03:45,170
S1: we use for term. Terminology. You get a big orange

1208
01:03:45,170 --> 01:03:48,210
S1: boy huge, probably two feet across, and you throw that

1209
01:03:48,210 --> 01:03:51,130
S1: sucker out and then all the net goes out behind it.

1210
01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:55,770
S1: He's like, hold, hold, hold, don't throw it out. And

1211
01:03:55,770 --> 01:03:58,570
S1: the spotter pilot yelling at Marvin, don't let him throw

1212
01:03:58,570 --> 01:04:01,930
S1: it out because they know Carl's crazy, man. He's going.

1213
01:04:01,970 --> 01:04:03,530
S3: To. He might just do it.

1214
01:04:04,090 --> 01:04:06,970
S1: So we're going south. Going south, going south. He says

1215
01:04:06,970 --> 01:04:11,250
S1: keep going. I'm like, we're going past fish. And Marvin

1216
01:04:11,250 --> 01:04:13,650
S1: was a wise man. He said, let's listen to him.

1217
01:04:13,810 --> 01:04:16,330
S1: We went a little bit further. Now, where there's no

1218
01:04:16,330 --> 01:04:18,730
S1: nets in front of us, we are the first net.

1219
01:04:18,770 --> 01:04:23,530
S1: All there is is ocean out there. And the spotter

1220
01:04:23,530 --> 01:04:28,610
S1: pilot says, slap it out. We slapped it out, guys.

1221
01:04:28,610 --> 01:04:32,770
S1: We put that net in the ocean and the amount

1222
01:04:32,770 --> 01:04:36,010
S1: of fish that poured in there was one of the

1223
01:04:36,010 --> 01:04:40,120
S1: most astounding things I'd ever seen. It was. It was

1224
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,760
S1: so breathtaking. We were our our energy was zapped from

1225
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,320
S1: yelling and screaming. Now I'm laying on the deck trying

1226
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,240
S1: to recover, knowing we got to get these fish out

1227
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,920
S1: of this gear here. So don't expend every bit of energy.

1228
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,840
S1: That hall that day, I think, was £15,000 in one

1229
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,880
S1: set of of sockeye salmon.

1230
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,440
S3: How much like, what was the value of that? Oh,

1231
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:01,960
S3: at that time.

1232
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,280
S1: Yeah, we were selling to cash buyers at that time.

1233
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,240
S1: So that was three bucks a pound.

1234
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:07,240
S3: Wow.

1235
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,320
S1: Which for harvesting that was a big that was a

1236
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,560
S1: big amount. I know some of you are going hold it.

1237
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,040
S1: Sockeye salmon at my store man is like 20 bucks

1238
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,520
S1: a pound or whatever. But yeah, there's a gap. There's

1239
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:23,240
S1: a middleman in there. But it's it was it was amazing.

1240
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,919
S1: Because my take on that little haul, that one haul

1241
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:31,120
S1: was thousands of dollars. My cut and what I learned

1242
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:36,680
S1: that day is that don't doubt the spotter pilot. Don't

1243
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:41,950
S1: question him. He can see stuff I can't see. And

1244
01:05:41,950 --> 01:05:44,190
S1: that is a beautiful picture of why we need to

1245
01:05:44,190 --> 01:05:46,150
S1: set our mind and our focus and our ears to

1246
01:05:46,190 --> 01:05:49,910
S1: things above. Because God can see stuff we can't see.

1247
01:05:51,710 --> 01:05:52,830
S1: Isn't that true, Allie?

1248
01:05:53,070 --> 01:05:57,189
S3: It is. And and you know, it's not just like

1249
01:05:57,230 --> 01:06:00,990
S3: a nice, reassuring thought. No. You know.

1250
01:06:01,150 --> 01:06:01,630
S1: Truth.

1251
01:06:01,870 --> 01:06:05,950
S3: Is, a lot of people, even with a biblical worldview,

1252
01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:08,590
S3: can get behind the idea that there's something bigger than

1253
01:06:08,590 --> 01:06:11,110
S3: me out there. Have you ever heard people. They won't

1254
01:06:11,150 --> 01:06:14,630
S3: they won't say the name of Jesus, and they don't

1255
01:06:14,670 --> 01:06:16,630
S3: won't even say whether or not they believe that there's

1256
01:06:16,670 --> 01:06:20,030
S3: a God, but they can agree that there's something out there.

1257
01:06:20,350 --> 01:06:24,430
S3: People will talk about the universe. It's like, well, who?

1258
01:06:24,910 --> 01:06:28,590
S3: Who is that? Someone. And you want to know his character, right?

1259
01:06:29,310 --> 01:06:31,230
S3: As if he's the one who sees and knows. You

1260
01:06:31,230 --> 01:06:33,550
S3: want to know that his character is good, that his

1261
01:06:33,550 --> 01:06:36,310
S3: plans for me is good, because then I can trust him.

1262
01:06:36,350 --> 01:06:36,790
S1: Yeah.