WEBVTT - People in the Bible 0:00:08.030 --> 0:00:12.110 Everybody has a story, something to teach us about life. 0:00:12.110 --> 0:00:14.930 So from A to Z, get ready to meet some 0:00:14.930 --> 0:00:18.800 of the Bible's heroes, villains, and ordinary people. And as 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.380 you get to know the God these people encountered, your 0:00:21.380 --> 0:00:24.290 own story will be better too. Welcome again to the 0:00:24.290 --> 0:00:27.320 land and the book. Our host is the widely respected 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.860 Middle East expert and author Doctor Charlie Dyer. I'm John 0:00:30.860 --> 0:00:34.220 Gager and Charlie. Last week we presented listeners with a 0:00:34.220 --> 0:00:37.790 book blast drawing our winner, by the way, Isobel Lundin 0:00:37.820 --> 0:00:41.360 from Billings, Montana. Charlie, maybe you could share an excerpt 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.160 from Isobel's email. I'd be. 0:00:43.190 --> 0:00:45.560 Happy to. John. She said, I think the most important 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.809 thing I gained this year from listening to the land 0:00:47.810 --> 0:00:50.750 in the book was becoming better educated to be able 0:00:50.750 --> 0:00:54.230 to speak up against anti-Semitism, and seeing the importance of 0:00:54.230 --> 0:00:58.100 writing to appointed and elected officials and those running for office, 0:00:58.130 --> 0:01:02.570 urging them to support Israel and speak up to denounce anti-Semitism. 0:01:02.570 --> 0:01:04.490 And we'll look forward to doing another one of our 0:01:04.490 --> 0:01:07.970 famous book blast events in the near future. Stay tuned. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.690 Right now, though, Israel in the news forever. 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That's life in messiah.org. 0:02:10.550 --> 0:02:12.950 And now a look at current events from the Middle East. 0:02:12.980 --> 0:02:17.000 Reports from the Middle East keep vacillating between uneasy peace, 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:21.230 limited attacks and all out war as Iran and Hezbollah 0:02:21.230 --> 0:02:24.739 face off against Israel. So what exactly has been happening 0:02:24.740 --> 0:02:27.169 and what might we expect in the coming days? 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.020 Well, you know, looking at all the contradictory reports, it's 0:02:30.020 --> 0:02:33.019 pretty clear no one really knows at any given moment 0:02:33.020 --> 0:02:35.929 what the leaders of Iran and Hezbollah are planning to do. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.780 They both say they'll strike Israel to punish it for 0:02:38.780 --> 0:02:41.660 attacks in their countries, but at the same time, they 0:02:41.660 --> 0:02:44.000 don't want to do something that could bring the U.S. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.840 and Israel against them militarily to cause them greater military 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.320 or economic harm. So what can we expect? Well, for 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.600 the past two weeks, the world has watched for Iran 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.930 and Hezbollah to launch an imminent attack, and it could 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:00.320 still come at any time, even before this program actually airs. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.620 But it's also possible both countries are looking for some 0:03:03.620 --> 0:03:06.170 sort of excuse to back away from an attack, at 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:10.429 least for now. The ceasefire and hostage negotiations that just 0:03:10.460 --> 0:03:14.359 resumed between Israel and Hamas could furnish them with that excuse. 0:03:14.389 --> 0:03:17.720 Both countries have said they wouldn't attack if Israel agrees 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.690 to a ceasefire with Hamas. Now, this could be a 0:03:20.690 --> 0:03:24.740 ploy to force Israel to accept specific cease fire conditions 0:03:24.740 --> 0:03:28.549 that would otherwise be rejected. Now, if there is an attack, 0:03:28.550 --> 0:03:31.790 both Iran and Hezbollah could attack together, though even that 0:03:31.790 --> 0:03:35.089 isn't a given, and the attack could extend over days. 0:03:35.090 --> 0:03:37.550 Though again, the scope of the attack and the length 0:03:37.550 --> 0:03:41.060 of it will only become clear if or when it unfolds. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.180 Listening to all the threats being made by Iran and Hezbollah, though, 0:03:44.180 --> 0:03:46.730 reminds me of the threat against the King of Israel 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.490 by the King of Syria back in first Kings 20. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.580 He threatened the total annihilation of the northern Kingdom of 0:03:52.580 --> 0:03:55.520 Israel and their capital, Samaria. And he said, May the 0:03:55.580 --> 0:03:58.160 gods deal with me, be it ever so severely. If 0:03:58.190 --> 0:04:01.190 enough dust remains in Samaria to give each of my 0:04:01.190 --> 0:04:03.740 men a handful. In essence, he said, we're going to 0:04:03.770 --> 0:04:06.500 annihilate you. The response of the King of Israel is 0:04:06.530 --> 0:04:09.290 a good reminder why a leader shouldn't boast about what 0:04:09.290 --> 0:04:12.230 he's going to do before the fight even begins. King 0:04:12.260 --> 0:04:14.960 Ahab said to him, tell him, let him who girds 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.839 on his armor not boast like those who take it off. 0:04:17.870 --> 0:04:21.409 In other words, don't get too overconfident before the battle starts. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.810 Only the one who remains standing in the end gets 0:04:23.810 --> 0:04:27.650 to boast. The bottom line application don't bet against Israel 0:04:27.650 --> 0:04:29.120 in any future fight. 0:04:29.270 --> 0:04:31.850 All right. And as you mentioned, Charlie, Israel and Hamas 0:04:31.850 --> 0:04:35.930 have once again resumed indirect negotiations over a cease fire 0:04:35.930 --> 0:04:39.799 and hostage deal. What brought about the resumption in negotiations? 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.130 I'm curious. And what are the prospects for a successful outcome? 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:47.060 Well, the negotiations resumed after the U.S. and Qatar and 0:04:47.060 --> 0:04:50.719 Egypt released a statement pressuring both Israel and Hamas to 0:04:50.750 --> 0:04:54.229 resume talks. The pressure being placed on Israel by the U.S. 0:04:54.260 --> 0:04:57.870 is quite intense, especially with the US providing so much 0:04:57.900 --> 0:05:01.799 military backing for Israel against Iran and Hezbollah. But as 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.070 the talks began, both sides were continuing to play a 0:05:05.070 --> 0:05:08.100 deadly game of chess, if you will. Conflicting reports were 0:05:08.100 --> 0:05:11.849 circulating that Hamas is desperate to conclude a deal, and 0:05:11.850 --> 0:05:14.430 that Sinwar has no desire at all to reach a deal. 0:05:14.430 --> 0:05:17.400 It's hard to get any further apart between. Those reports 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.460 were also leaked, saying the deal was ready to be signed, 0:05:20.490 --> 0:05:23.670 while other reports said Hamas wants the mediation to be 0:05:23.670 --> 0:05:26.880 based on past talks and wasn't even planning on attending 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.030 the negotiations. So what do we know right now? Well, 0:05:30.029 --> 0:05:32.909 we know Sinwar, the new leader of Hamas, wants to 0:05:32.940 --> 0:05:36.750 prolong negotiations as long as possible. He believes his goals 0:05:36.750 --> 0:05:39.600 are being accomplished right now. He's turning the world against 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:44.880 Israel while keeping Israel from reaching a military victory in Gaza. Apparently, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.270 Israel believes it's drawing the noose tighter around sinwar by 0:05:48.270 --> 0:05:53.280 continuing to eliminate Hamas's leadership and degrading its area of operation. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.240 One example from this last week illustrates both aspects. Israel 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.150 attacked a mosque connected to a school where dozens of 0:06:00.150 --> 0:06:03.690 Hamas fighters were gathered, along with a senior Hamas leader. 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.900 Hamas reported that Israel had attacked a school, killing almost 0:06:06.900 --> 0:06:11.610 100 civilians, including women and children. The report was uncritically 0:06:11.610 --> 0:06:15.180 picked up and broadcast by news media, bringing still more 0:06:15.180 --> 0:06:21.000 worldwide condemnation on Israel. Israel responded by identifying, along with photos, 0:06:21.029 --> 0:06:24.900 31 Hamas fighters who were killed, proving Israel apparently has 0:06:24.900 --> 0:06:28.200 very good intelligence in terms of who was in the building. 0:06:28.230 --> 0:06:31.380 They also provided aerial footage showing that the bombs used 0:06:31.380 --> 0:06:34.440 did not hit the school complex, just the building where 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.020 these fighters had gathered. Now, in light of all this, 0:06:37.050 --> 0:06:40.799 what are the expected outcomes for these negotiations? Ultimately, it's 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.980 anyone's guess. The US is pushing to reach an agreement 0:06:43.980 --> 0:06:48.510 because they feel that could defuse the current conflict. Netanyahu's 0:06:48.510 --> 0:06:51.510 caught between pressure from our country and pressure from the 0:06:51.510 --> 0:06:54.820 far right parties in his own coalition, and Sinwar is 0:06:54.820 --> 0:06:58.660 caught between his continuing political success against Israel and his 0:06:58.660 --> 0:07:02.710 shrinking chances of remaining alive if the conflict continues. The 0:07:02.710 --> 0:07:06.339 real question in these negotiations is which side will blink first, 0:07:06.339 --> 0:07:09.310 or will it once again all fall apart? 0:07:09.339 --> 0:07:12.190 That's doctor Charlie Dyer. I'm John Gager. This is the 0:07:12.190 --> 0:07:15.220 land and the book from Moody Radio on segment one, 0:07:15.250 --> 0:07:17.740 a look at current events from the Middle East. A 0:07:17.740 --> 0:07:22.150 3300 year old Canaanite shipwreck was discovered off Israel's coast. 0:07:22.180 --> 0:07:24.760 What makes this discovery unique, Charlie? 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.210 Well, two items make this discovery so unique. The first 0:07:28.210 --> 0:07:31.720 is that this is the oldest intact shipwreck discovered in 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.690 the eastern Mediterranean, dating to around the time of the 0:07:34.690 --> 0:07:38.020 beginning of the period of the judges in Israel. And 0:07:38.020 --> 0:07:40.300 the second thing that makes it unique is the fact 0:07:40.300 --> 0:07:42.820 that it was discovered so far from land. It was 0:07:42.820 --> 0:07:47.110 found by a ship searching for natural gas 56 miles 0:07:47.110 --> 0:07:50.230 off the coast, in water more than a mile deep. 0:07:50.260 --> 0:07:53.640 The ship contained hundreds of clay storage jars. Two were 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.179 brought to the surface using a submersible robot. Because the 0:07:57.180 --> 0:08:01.650 wreckage is so deep, it's remained relatively undisturbed. The one 0:08:01.650 --> 0:08:04.710 intriguing question the discovery has raised is this why was 0:08:04.710 --> 0:08:08.370 the ship so far from shore, literally over the horizon 0:08:08.370 --> 0:08:12.090 and out of sight of any land? Archaeologists have suggested 0:08:12.090 --> 0:08:15.090 this might show that the ancient navigators were more advanced 0:08:15.090 --> 0:08:18.780 than what had been assumed, possibly using celestial bodies to 0:08:18.810 --> 0:08:21.990 determine their position on the open sea, rather than always 0:08:21.990 --> 0:08:24.600 sailing within sight of land. However, there might be a 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.570 more mundane possibility the ship could have been caught in 0:08:27.570 --> 0:08:30.840 a sudden storm and pushed out into the sea before 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.960 it could reach shore. In Ezekiel 27, he describes the 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.570 city of tyre as a ship of state and pictures 0:08:36.570 --> 0:08:39.600 God destroying it just like a fierce storm destroying a 0:08:39.630 --> 0:08:42.150 literal ship on the sea. And that's what might have 0:08:42.150 --> 0:08:44.910 happened to this ship. It could also illustrate the storms 0:08:44.910 --> 0:08:47.460 that struck ships on on which Jonah was, and the 0:08:47.460 --> 0:08:50.760 Apostle Paul when they sailed said later. A sudden, violent 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.010 storm pushing a ship away from land and out into 0:08:53.010 --> 0:08:56.160 the open sea would have been frightening, and this particular 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.250 ship ended up 56 miles from land when it finally 0:08:59.250 --> 0:08:59.880 went down. 0:08:59.910 --> 0:09:02.940 Any thoughts as to the contents of the clay jars? 0:09:03.179 --> 0:09:05.310 They have not said anything yet, and I suspect that's 0:09:05.309 --> 0:09:07.260 going to be something they'll be studying in detail in 0:09:07.260 --> 0:09:08.250 the next months. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.719 Israeli scientists have turned a common parasite into a brain healer. 0:09:12.750 --> 0:09:16.440 Sounds intriguing. Tell us about this latest innovation out of 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:17.970 amazing Israel. Yeah. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.330 One problem with people suffering from neurological diseases is the 0:09:21.330 --> 0:09:24.630 difficulty in delivering drugs into the brain through that blood 0:09:24.660 --> 0:09:27.780 brain barrier, and that's where these Israeli scientists came up 0:09:27.780 --> 0:09:32.940 with the idea of using Toxoplasma gondii, a parasite sometimes 0:09:32.940 --> 0:09:36.240 called the cat parasite. Now, the parasite only reproduces in 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.840 the guts of cats, but it's highly effective in infecting humans. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.140 About one third of the global population have been infected 0:09:43.140 --> 0:09:45.690 at some point in time. The parasite is able to 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.990 penetrate the human brain via the blood brain barrier, where 0:09:48.990 --> 0:09:52.020 it remains in a dormant state. Well, the scientists genetically 0:09:52.020 --> 0:09:56.309 engineered the parasite to enable it to secrete therapeutic proteins 0:09:56.309 --> 0:09:59.910 using laboratory animals. They were able to demonstrate that injecting 0:09:59.910 --> 0:10:03.600 the parasite into the subjects enabled the beneficial proteins to 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.600 reach the brain. They've now set up a company called 0:10:06.630 --> 0:10:10.410 Epius Pharma to develop ways to implement the discovery of 0:10:10.410 --> 0:10:13.980 this drug delivery and genetic editing process. The name they 0:10:13.980 --> 0:10:17.189 used for that company seems appropriate, since in Greek mythology, 0:10:17.220 --> 0:10:20.490 Epius was the man who crafted the Trojan horse. Their 0:10:20.490 --> 0:10:25.080 first project is to tackle Rett syndrome, a debilitating neurological disorder. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.630 But all in all, Jon, this is yet another discovery 0:10:27.630 --> 0:10:32.520 with amazing potential coming our way from, of course, amazing Israel. 0:10:32.550 --> 0:10:34.920 Thank you. Charlie, what I love about the guest we've 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.290 got coming in our next segment is our focus on 0:10:37.290 --> 0:10:40.890 the Bible's heroes, villains, and ordinary people. These are names 0:10:40.890 --> 0:10:43.380 that don't often hear about from the Bible. You're about 0:10:43.380 --> 0:10:45.450 to hear from them as we continue here on the 0:10:45.450 --> 0:11:03.510 land and the book. Everybody has a story, something to 0:11:03.540 --> 0:11:06.870 teach us about life. So from A to Z, get 0:11:06.870 --> 0:11:10.650 ready to meet 125 of the thousands of heroes and 0:11:10.650 --> 0:11:13.709 villains and ordinary people in the Bible, and we'll get 0:11:13.710 --> 0:11:16.500 to know the God these people encountered, so your own 0:11:16.500 --> 0:11:19.170 story will be better. Hey, welcome to the second of 0:11:19.170 --> 0:11:23.280 four segments on the Land and the book. I'm John Gager, 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.589 and before we dive into the stories of some great 0:11:25.590 --> 0:11:28.410 Bible characters, let's you and I think about the stories 0:11:28.410 --> 0:11:31.709 of our unsaved Jewish friends. How could we love them 0:11:31.710 --> 0:11:35.040 more strategically for Christ? Think with me for just a moment. 0:11:35.309 --> 0:11:37.800 So you would like to have a conversation with your 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.830 Jewish friend, and you'd like that conversation to be centered 0:11:40.830 --> 0:11:43.859 on Jesus and your Christian faith. But you're kind of 0:11:43.890 --> 0:11:46.630 nervous because they might just ask a question that you 0:11:46.660 --> 0:11:50.590 cannot answer. What then? Greg Savitt, what do you say? 0:11:50.650 --> 0:11:54.160 Well, by your faith in Jesus, the New Testament that 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:59.260 has over 250 direct quotes and 880 allusions, you will 0:11:59.260 --> 0:12:03.370 know more about the Bible than they will. And if 0:12:03.370 --> 0:12:06.309 they ask a question, go to the gospel of Google. 0:12:06.340 --> 0:12:09.250 Look it up right there on your phone, and if 0:12:09.250 --> 0:12:12.640 you don't have an answer, I would go and research 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.150 them and find them the next day and say, I 0:12:16.179 --> 0:12:18.370 found the answer that you were looking for, and then 0:12:18.370 --> 0:12:22.059 you can sit down and have a conversation. Jewish people 0:12:22.059 --> 0:12:25.150 will respect you more if you say, I really don't 0:12:25.150 --> 0:12:28.089 know that. That's a great question, as opposed to you 0:12:28.090 --> 0:12:31.090 just flying by the seat of your pants and giving 0:12:31.090 --> 0:12:34.150 them an answer that really you don't know anything about. 0:12:34.150 --> 0:12:37.660 So it's okay to say I don't understand and to 0:12:37.690 --> 0:12:38.830 get back to them. 0:12:38.860 --> 0:12:42.040 Greg Savitt is with Rock of Israel and joins us 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.410 with insights here on the land and the book. Woodrow 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.890 Michael Kroll is an evangelical preacher and radio host. For 0:12:49.890 --> 0:12:53.580 many years, he served as the president and Bible teacher 0:12:53.580 --> 0:12:57.390 for the international Back to the Bible Radio and Television Ministry. 0:12:57.390 --> 0:12:59.580 That's where I had the privilege of linking up with him, 0:12:59.580 --> 0:13:02.340 and before that he was president of Davis College in 0:13:02.340 --> 0:13:05.910 Johnson City, New York. In addition to preaching and teaching, 0:13:05.910 --> 0:13:08.939 Doctor Kroll is quite a writer, having authored more than 0:13:08.940 --> 0:13:12.810 50 books expounding on the Bible and Christian living. And 0:13:12.809 --> 0:13:15.689 one of those books is a devotional called people in 0:13:15.690 --> 0:13:17.580 the Bible. And though it's been out for a while, 0:13:17.580 --> 0:13:20.880 the message is timeless. So it's a real pleasure to 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.150 welcome Doctor Woodrow Kroll to the land and the book. 0:13:24.150 --> 0:13:25.020 Good to have you. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.790 Thank you so much, John. 0:13:26.820 --> 0:13:30.809 Hey, how did you choose the 125 Bible characters? Out 0:13:30.809 --> 0:13:33.330 of all the thousands that are in Scripture. 0:13:33.809 --> 0:13:38.040 Uh, process of elimination, I've got maybe 250 or so, 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.530 and I said, I have to cut this down to 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:45.689 a readable size. And so I chose not necessarily the 0:13:45.690 --> 0:13:50.460 most popular or most well known, but characters that had 0:13:50.460 --> 0:13:54.660 stories sometimes that nobody even knows their story. And I 0:13:54.660 --> 0:13:57.030 wanted to tell that story. So that's how I chose 0:13:57.030 --> 0:13:58.710 those 50 characters. 0:13:58.740 --> 0:14:02.790 Any surprises for you personally in this journey of researching 0:14:02.790 --> 0:14:04.920 all those Bible figures, you had to have invested a 0:14:04.950 --> 0:14:05.910 lot of time. 0:14:06.270 --> 0:14:10.589 Yes. And over the course of the years, I have 0:14:10.590 --> 0:14:13.890 picked out characters in the Bible to do maybe a 0:14:13.890 --> 0:14:19.860 series of messages on them, characters who had just terrific 0:14:19.860 --> 0:14:23.880 stories behind them, terrific stories of their life or how 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.660 they died or how they lived. And yet, these are 0:14:27.660 --> 0:14:30.900 the kind of people that don't make the top five 0:14:30.900 --> 0:14:34.440 or top 100 list. Some of them are names people 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.440 would never even recognize, and yet they're in the Bible 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.610 and they have a story of God's grace in their lives. 0:14:41.740 --> 0:14:46.420 Pastor, radio host, college president, writer. Doctor Woodrow Kroll is 0:14:46.420 --> 0:14:49.000 all of these. He's also a great friend and the 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.210 author of people in the Bible. I'm John Gager. You're 0:14:52.210 --> 0:14:55.330 listening to The Land and the book. I noted that 0:14:55.330 --> 0:14:59.950 you've included some villains in this collection. Some might ask why? 0:15:00.220 --> 0:15:03.190 Well, there are people in the Bible, too, and not 0:15:03.190 --> 0:15:07.090 everybody who is mentioned in the Bible was a great hero. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.760 There were a lot of great villains in the Bible, 0:15:09.790 --> 0:15:13.810 men and women, I might add. And they have a 0:15:13.810 --> 0:15:18.400 story to tell of their evil, or perhaps sometimes their 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:22.420 attempted evil. Uh, the good guys of the Bible. So 0:15:22.420 --> 0:15:26.890 their story is important because we learn from their stories 0:15:26.890 --> 0:15:32.080 how to watch out for wicked people or wicked intent 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.770 from people today. So it's important that they're included in 0:15:35.770 --> 0:15:36.910 the book as well. 0:15:36.940 --> 0:15:40.180 You know, one of my intriguing Bible characters for me 0:15:40.210 --> 0:15:44.260 personally is King Saul. I just feel so sad for 0:15:44.260 --> 0:15:47.530 the way he ended. I mean, nobody had a brighter start, 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.680 a better start, a more likely success story ahead of 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.830 him than Saul. And yet it just all fell apart. 0:15:53.860 --> 0:15:57.670 Yeah, it's a shame. Affected his family as well. His 0:15:57.670 --> 0:16:02.950 sons died with him. Even David's best friend Jonathan. And 0:16:02.950 --> 0:16:07.690 Saul's life is a life that should have had certainly 0:16:07.690 --> 0:16:10.690 had had more promise than it ended with, and should 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:15.250 have had a better conclusion. Except I think pride or 0:16:15.250 --> 0:16:19.300 jealousy got in his way. David, you know, they were 0:16:19.300 --> 0:16:23.110 saying that Saul killed his thousands and David's ten thousands 0:16:23.110 --> 0:16:25.930 and and it's just got to him. Here was this 0:16:25.930 --> 0:16:30.250 young prince that God had anointed. And Saul knew it, 0:16:30.250 --> 0:16:33.100 but he didn't want to give up the throne. Certainly. 0:16:33.100 --> 0:16:37.240 And his actions toward David and toward even the people 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.650 of the Empire Are clearly indicated that something was wrong 0:16:41.650 --> 0:16:44.170 with Saul in the end of his life. 0:16:44.290 --> 0:16:48.520 Well, name 1 or 2 lesser known Bible characters that 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.440 you look forward to meeting in heaven. And what is 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.390 it about them that fascinates you? 0:16:52.900 --> 0:16:57.370 Well, there are probably a dozen that their names are 0:16:57.370 --> 0:17:00.790 not household names. One of my favorites is a guy 0:17:00.820 --> 0:17:06.909 named Itai. Itai was a hero, but in the true 0:17:06.910 --> 0:17:10.600 sense of the word, an unknown hero. He was from 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.350 the city of Gath, so he's called a Gittite. That's 0:17:14.350 --> 0:17:18.399 what you call people from Gath. And Itai befriended David 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:23.260 and helped David in times of his need. And yet 0:17:23.260 --> 0:17:25.570 you find out in the end of the story that 0:17:25.570 --> 0:17:29.859 he comes from the same town that Goliath comes from. 0:17:29.859 --> 0:17:34.120 So here's a man who clearly should have been an 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.090 enemy of David, and yet he ends up being David's 0:17:37.090 --> 0:17:39.940 great friend and deliverer on occasion. 0:17:39.970 --> 0:17:43.300 All right. How about another lesser known Bible character? I 0:17:43.300 --> 0:17:46.119 like that one that you're looking forward to hanging out 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:47.650 with once we're in glory. 0:17:48.070 --> 0:17:52.660 Well, of course, there are people like Barzillai, who was 0:17:52.690 --> 0:17:56.350 a man who helped David cross the Jordan River when 0:17:56.350 --> 0:18:00.370 he was on the run from his son Absalom. Barzillai 0:18:00.369 --> 0:18:04.689 was a relatively wealthy man. He helped David when he 0:18:04.690 --> 0:18:08.320 crossed over the Jordan into Transjordan. Then he helped him 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:13.629 back into the land after David's son was dethroned and 0:18:13.630 --> 0:18:16.359 David was going back to the throne. He's one of 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:20.500 those great characters. And then there are some people like Martha. 0:18:20.500 --> 0:18:24.340 We know her name. We know what she does, but 0:18:24.340 --> 0:18:27.400 we don't know what her connection to the Lord really 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.690 is and the family from which she comes. So Martha 0:18:31.690 --> 0:18:35.170 is better known, but still a story all on her 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:40.389 own Because while Jesus said that Mary chose the better part, 0:18:40.540 --> 0:18:44.020 Martha was still very important in this story, an important 0:18:44.020 --> 0:18:45.850 role model for us today. 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.770 Well, and the thing about Martha is, if you read 0:18:47.770 --> 0:18:52.030 the account, it says that Martha welcomed Jesus into the home. 0:18:52.030 --> 0:18:54.220 It wasn't Mary, it was Martha. And I think there's 0:18:54.220 --> 0:18:56.470 something to be said for that sense of hospitality. 0:18:56.500 --> 0:19:00.369 Yes. And, you know, Martha had certain questions for Jesus. 0:19:00.369 --> 0:19:03.730 And it shows us, I think, that when you're on 0:19:03.730 --> 0:19:07.240 a good basis with the Lord Jesus, when you're, uh, 0:19:07.270 --> 0:19:11.560 you know, you're all prayed up and all repented up, uh, 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:16.090 when you're living a life that's pure and wholesome and 0:19:16.090 --> 0:19:18.340 something comes into your life and you want to question 0:19:18.340 --> 0:19:21.010 the Lord about it, that's okay. You know, it's all 0:19:21.010 --> 0:19:25.000 right to ask the Lord why didn't this happen? But 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.909 we have to be willing to accept the answer. And 0:19:27.910 --> 0:19:31.690 apparently Martha was. Because she's the one who welcomed Jesus 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:32.859 into the house. 0:19:32.980 --> 0:19:37.300 How does studying Bible characters enhance our walk with Christ. 0:19:38.020 --> 0:19:40.180 Well, there are people like we are, you know, and 0:19:40.180 --> 0:19:43.150 we have a tendency because they're in the Bible story. 0:19:43.150 --> 0:19:46.420 We have a tendency to think these are untouchables. These 0:19:46.420 --> 0:19:49.780 are these are people. I could never be a David. Well, 0:19:49.780 --> 0:19:53.050 it's true, I never could be a David. But that 0:19:53.050 --> 0:19:57.970 doesn't mean that I can't employ in my life some 0:19:57.970 --> 0:20:01.119 of the character qualities I see in David. And the 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.620 same thing is true for Moses or Abraham or the disciples. 0:20:05.619 --> 0:20:09.520 Certainly the Lord Jesus and I want to incorporate in 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:13.990 my life my daily living, some of the hero qualities 0:20:13.990 --> 0:20:16.929 that I find in these unsung heroes. 0:20:16.930 --> 0:20:19.810 If you've joined us midstream, this is the land and 0:20:19.810 --> 0:20:23.440 the book. I'm John Gager, our guest, Doctor Woodrow Kroll, 0:20:23.470 --> 0:20:26.680 a man I've admired for decades. We're talking about people 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.679 in the Bible. Answer the skeptic who says, look, we 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:33.250 don't really need to dig into people. These lesser characters, particularly. 0:20:33.250 --> 0:20:36.940 We know plenty about the Bible. People that quote really matter. 0:20:37.030 --> 0:20:40.960 Yeah, it all depends on your perspective. I think if 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:46.090 you want to fly 37,000ft over the land, you choose 0:20:46.090 --> 0:20:49.000 a jet. If you want to get down into the land, 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.149 you probably go by train or by car. Both of 0:20:52.150 --> 0:20:56.200 those are important. We use both trains cars and we 0:20:56.200 --> 0:21:00.639 use jets to get around. But by digging down into 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:05.530 these people, we get stories and lessons from those stories 0:21:05.530 --> 0:21:09.850 that you don't get at 37,000ft. So it's important to 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.330 have that high overview of the Bible. Learn as much 0:21:13.330 --> 0:21:16.869 as we can. Genesis to revelation, but then to drill 0:21:16.869 --> 0:21:20.560 down in some characters to learn even more of what 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.040 we could not get by flying high over the Bible. 0:21:24.070 --> 0:21:27.459 All right, here's a personal confession and a request for advice. 0:21:27.460 --> 0:21:28.540 Are you ready for this? 0:21:28.570 --> 0:21:29.200 Sure. 0:21:29.230 --> 0:21:32.109 My my tendency I've noticed over the years is to 0:21:32.140 --> 0:21:35.140 set these great men and women of the Bible on 0:21:35.140 --> 0:21:38.080 a pedestal, and I'm sad when I go on to 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.710 read that they've messed up. You mentioned David. Wonderful guy 0:21:41.710 --> 0:21:45.760 and we all knew what he ultimately got into. I 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:49.660 suspect there are two lessons here. First, only Jesus belongs 0:21:49.660 --> 0:21:53.200 on a pedestal. And second, since my life is flawed, 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.260 I shouldn't be surprised that they were flawed as well. 0:21:56.290 --> 0:21:57.310 What are your thoughts? 0:21:57.490 --> 0:22:02.200 Yeah, that's certainly true. When we think of, let's say, 0:22:02.230 --> 0:22:06.580 David's life, when we think of his life, David clearly 0:22:06.580 --> 0:22:10.030 loved the Lord. I mean, he he was walking more 0:22:10.030 --> 0:22:15.520 closely with his God than most Christians do today. However, 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.240 he also was a human being, and his human qualities 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.659 overtook him on a number of occasions, the worst of which, 0:22:22.690 --> 0:22:26.680 of course, was the affair with Bathsheba. However, if you 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:29.950 go far enough in David's story, you see that he 0:22:29.950 --> 0:22:34.179 repented of that sin. He even wrote Psalm 51 as 0:22:34.180 --> 0:22:38.950 a written confession and repentance of his sin with Bathsheba. 0:22:38.950 --> 0:22:43.300 And here's a man who learned how to live, how 0:22:43.300 --> 0:22:46.390 to sin, and then how to repent of that sin 0:22:46.390 --> 0:22:49.300 and live again. And I think we learn so much 0:22:49.300 --> 0:22:52.450 from him and all the characters of the Bible. 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.570 And I think the fact that these flawed women and 0:22:55.570 --> 0:22:58.540 men were still used of God, that ought to be 0:22:58.540 --> 0:23:01.300 a great source of encouragement to us. Develop that thought 0:23:01.300 --> 0:23:02.859 just a bit further, Doctor Crowell. 0:23:02.890 --> 0:23:06.520 Sure. Uh, you know, we we have to remember that 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.970 we are nobody, uh, those that others set on a 0:23:09.970 --> 0:23:15.159 pedestal still are nobodies. You know, I, I loved my 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:19.690 time in Christian radio. I have a binder, probably. Oh, 0:23:19.690 --> 0:23:24.189 an inch and a quarter thick of single spaced comments 0:23:24.190 --> 0:23:27.820 from people when I retired from radio. And, you know, 0:23:27.820 --> 0:23:32.480 they're just such delightful people, those who listen to Christian radio. However, 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.700 if they set me on a pedestal, they need to 0:23:34.700 --> 0:23:38.240 know that I grew up on a chicken farm. You know, I, 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:43.220 I caught chickens at night just to help our families survive. 0:23:43.220 --> 0:23:47.690 And my life is no different from anyone else's life 0:23:47.690 --> 0:23:50.929 and anyone else that we might put on a pedestal. 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:55.910 That's a mistake because we are people who have feet 0:23:55.910 --> 0:23:59.720 of clay. We're going to mess up, and we're going 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.450 to have to learn how to ask God to forgive 0:24:02.450 --> 0:24:05.900 us and move on from when we messed up, to 0:24:05.930 --> 0:24:09.050 when we can do something very vital for the Lord. 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:12.560 In addition to preaching and teaching, Doctor Woodrow Kroll is 0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.500 quite a writer with more than 50 books to his credit. 0:24:15.530 --> 0:24:18.620 One of those books, a devotional called people in the Bible. 0:24:18.619 --> 0:24:21.320 That's our focus today on the land and the book. 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.990 What kind of a message do you think these people 0:24:23.990 --> 0:24:26.420 in the Bible would have for us, the living? What 0:24:26.420 --> 0:24:29.510 would they want us to know or think or do. 0:24:29.990 --> 0:24:33.379 Well, a lot of them messed up as we've talked about. 0:24:33.410 --> 0:24:37.429 A lot of them were in situations of their own making, 0:24:37.430 --> 0:24:41.870 and they had to learn how to handle failure, how 0:24:41.869 --> 0:24:45.530 to handle mistakes. We do too. I mean, we we 0:24:45.530 --> 0:24:48.439 mess up and we do this very same things that 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:52.190 some of these people in the Bible do, their stories. 0:24:52.190 --> 0:24:55.700 If the story ends well, that is to say, if 0:24:55.700 --> 0:24:58.850 they get right with God and they get back in 0:24:58.850 --> 0:25:01.520 the saddle, so to speak, so that they can actually 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:05.450 be a part of the army of God. If that happens, 0:25:05.450 --> 0:25:08.030 we need to look at their lives and find out 0:25:08.030 --> 0:25:10.369 how did they do that? You know, how did God 0:25:10.369 --> 0:25:13.310 use them? What did God do to bring them back? 0:25:13.310 --> 0:25:17.210 Because we need that so often in our own lives. 0:25:17.210 --> 0:25:20.090 And if they didn't mess up, if they if they 0:25:20.090 --> 0:25:23.869 lived a life that was exemplary, we have to ask ourselves, 0:25:23.869 --> 0:25:27.680 what is the character quality in this person that I 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:31.520 need in my life. And from that we learn how 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.500 to live a life of the Lord. 0:25:33.530 --> 0:25:35.990 Well, that's great advice. And there's more in the book. 0:25:35.990 --> 0:25:38.389 People in the Bible, a link to that and to 0:25:38.420 --> 0:25:43.730 Doctor Krull's ministry at our website, the land and the book. Org. Well, 0:25:43.730 --> 0:25:46.189 in our next segment, Doctor Charlie Dyer is back to 0:25:46.220 --> 0:25:48.950 answer Bible questions. And Doctor Crowell, I'm looking forward to 0:25:48.980 --> 0:25:51.260 connecting again in the future. Thanks for your time. 0:25:51.290 --> 0:25:53.030 Thank you John. My pleasure. 0:25:53.060 --> 0:26:08.840 More to come on the land and the book. Thanks 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.669 for staying with us here at The Land and the 0:26:10.670 --> 0:26:13.520 book with our host, Doctor Charlie Dyer. I'm John Gager, 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.430 and we love this next segment because it's all about you, 0:26:16.460 --> 0:26:20.660 your thoughts, your wonderings as you wander through Scripture. No 0:26:20.660 --> 0:26:23.149 shortage of questions come to mind. Right, Charlie? Oh, I. 0:26:23.150 --> 0:26:26.119 Love it, John. You're exactly right. When we read the Bible, 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.280 It's amazing what questions it raises in our mind, and 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.800 answering them gets us even deeper into the Bible. 0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:32.780 Well, Israel has been in the news a lot over 0:26:32.780 --> 0:26:34.880 the past year and as we know, the Bible is 0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:39.230 jam packed with end times prophecies about epic world events, 0:26:39.230 --> 0:26:43.070 the regathering of the Jewish people to their homeland, Jesus returned. 0:26:43.070 --> 0:26:45.410 And it is really crucial, it seems to me that 0:26:45.410 --> 0:26:49.040 believers have a proper understanding of Bible prophecy. So our 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.650 view of the future is shaped by Scripture, not just 0:26:51.650 --> 0:26:53.149 today's headlines. 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He says based on your understanding of 0:27:40.580 --> 0:27:45.619 Old and New Testament prophecies, specifically second Thessalonians two verse four, 0:27:45.619 --> 0:27:48.950 how likely do you believe it is that current events 0:27:48.950 --> 0:27:51.740 in Israel are a precursor to the end times? 0:27:51.770 --> 0:27:54.800 Well, I do find Bible prophecy something that people really 0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.590 ought to study, but in light of that, my answer 0:27:57.590 --> 0:28:00.320 might be surprising. I think an honest answer is that 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.810 we don't know if current events are a precursor to 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.750 the end times, and we won't know until the day 0:28:05.780 --> 0:28:08.780 God removes the church from the earth and resumes working 0:28:08.780 --> 0:28:12.380 to fulfill his program and his promises for Israel. I 0:28:12.380 --> 0:28:14.510 think that's the main point Paul is making there in 0:28:14.510 --> 0:28:17.540 second Thessalonians two. Actually, in verses 1 to 8, the 0:28:17.540 --> 0:28:20.840 Thessalonians believed that the day of the Lord had already arrived, 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.440 and Paul reminds them of specific events connected with that 0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.320 day that hadn't been fulfilled, and he says he'd already 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.530 explained this to them earlier. Now, I do believe we 0:28:30.530 --> 0:28:33.709 might be seeing God setting the stage for the end times. 0:28:33.710 --> 0:28:37.939 For example, the Antichrist, to fulfill Daniel 927 has to 0:28:37.970 --> 0:28:40.430 confirm a covenant with the many. It says for a 0:28:40.430 --> 0:28:42.920 seven year period, and to do that, Israel needs to 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.440 be back in the land. And I do see Israel 0:28:45.470 --> 0:28:47.900 back in the land as a milestone event. It took 0:28:47.900 --> 0:28:51.440 place in 1948, and by the middle of that future 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.739 seven year period, it says a functioning temple needs to 0:28:54.740 --> 0:28:56.840 be in place. In fact, at least 3 or 4 0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.870 different places in the scriptures, it mentions that temple that's 0:28:59.870 --> 0:29:02.450 going to be there. Now, this suggests that Israel also 0:29:02.450 --> 0:29:04.370 has to be back in the land and needs to 0:29:04.370 --> 0:29:07.100 be rebuilding that temple, which could be part of God 0:29:07.130 --> 0:29:10.460 setting the stage. But again, I believe the next event 0:29:10.460 --> 0:29:13.430 to be fulfilled is the removal of the church from earth. 0:29:13.430 --> 0:29:16.100 That will be followed by the resumption of God's program 0:29:16.100 --> 0:29:18.800 for the nation of Israel. So what we're seeing could 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:22.040 be a precursor to God resuming his program. But I 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.560 don't think we can say with absolute certainty that what 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.680 we're seeing today is being the fulfillment of Bible prophecy, 0:29:27.710 --> 0:29:31.160 since nothing needs to happen prior to God's return for 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:32.240 his church. Boy that's. 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.660 Encouraging. Thank you Charlie. Todd takes us to two Samuel eight, 0:29:35.690 --> 0:29:39.440 verse 18, where we read that David's sons were priests. 0:29:39.470 --> 0:29:41.900 He wants to know how could this be, since David 0:29:41.900 --> 0:29:44.810 was not a Levite or a descendant of Aaron? 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:48.260 Yeah. And the Hebrew word used in Second Samuel 818 0:29:48.260 --> 0:29:52.040 that describes David's sons is indeed Kohanim, which is the 0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.190 normal Hebrew word for priests. However, in this case, it's 0:29:55.190 --> 0:29:58.010 likely the reality that the word is being used in 0:29:58.010 --> 0:30:00.740 a less common sense to refer to some type of 0:30:00.740 --> 0:30:03.950 royal advisor. You know, the new American standard translates it 0:30:03.950 --> 0:30:08.060 as chief ministers. The NIV translates it their royal advisors. 0:30:08.300 --> 0:30:10.580 We do something similar in English, by the way. We 0:30:10.580 --> 0:30:13.490 use the word minister to refer to a high government 0:30:13.490 --> 0:30:16.430 official as well as a member of the clergy. Now, 0:30:16.460 --> 0:30:18.469 some might say, well, Charlie, it sounds like you're just 0:30:18.470 --> 0:30:20.510 doing that as a cop out, but I believe it's 0:30:20.510 --> 0:30:25.320 supported by a parallel passage in First Chronicles 1817. The 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.710 two sons are said to be chiefs at the king's side, 0:30:28.710 --> 0:30:31.710 or chief officials at the king's side, and the Hebrew 0:30:31.740 --> 0:30:34.410 word used there is richon, which has the idea of 0:30:34.410 --> 0:30:37.350 first or chief. It literally says the sons of David 0:30:37.380 --> 0:30:40.140 were first by the hand of the king. So the 0:30:40.140 --> 0:30:42.630 parallel passage makes it clear that the two sons were 0:30:42.630 --> 0:30:46.830 functioning as chief court advisers, and not as priests or 0:30:46.830 --> 0:30:48.150 religious officials. 0:30:48.180 --> 0:30:50.970 Question now from Robert. Is there any evidence that the 0:30:50.970 --> 0:30:54.900 Achaeans were expelled from temple worship in Jerusalem because of 0:30:54.930 --> 0:30:59.340 their endorsement of unapproved texts like Enoch and Jubilees? 0:30:59.370 --> 0:31:02.040 Yeah, I don't know of any evidence that would suggest this. 0:31:02.070 --> 0:31:05.520 Josephus describes the scenes, and he does say at one point, 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.580 the Essenes do not offer sacrifices because they have more 0:31:08.580 --> 0:31:12.000 pure lustrations of their own, on which account they are 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.820 excluded from the common court of the temple, but offer 0:31:14.820 --> 0:31:19.050 their sacrifices themselves. But this exclusion he's talking about relates 0:31:19.050 --> 0:31:23.220 to sacrifices, not to the non-canonical books of the Bible. 0:31:23.250 --> 0:31:26.880 In fact, Josephus and another ancient writer, Philo, suggest the 0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:30.540 Essenes were admired for their piety and generosity. So the 0:31:30.540 --> 0:31:33.090 only negative I can find is the one from Josephus 0:31:33.090 --> 0:31:37.170 relating to not offering sacrifices. It doesn't relate to those 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:38.820 extra biblical books. 0:31:38.820 --> 0:31:41.100 Thanks for listening to the land and the book today 0:31:41.100 --> 0:31:44.670 where we're looking at questions from the Bible. Your questions, 0:31:44.670 --> 0:31:48.480 questions also about prophecy, questions about Israel itself. They're all 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:53.969 welcome when you email us at The Land and the book@moody.edu. 0:31:54.150 --> 0:31:57.000 Here's a question about prophecy. It seems to be fairly 0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.330 well documented that Muslims who control the Temple Mount treat 0:32:00.330 --> 0:32:02.730 the dome of the Rock as if it were Solomon's 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.180 Third Temple. Do you think there's any possibility that Israel 0:32:06.180 --> 0:32:10.200 or the rabbis in Israel will or could ever recognize 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.080 the dome of the Rock as their own temple? 0:32:13.110 --> 0:32:16.050 Well, you know, from the earliest Islamic times, up until 0:32:16.050 --> 0:32:19.040 the establishment of the State of Israel, Muslim sources were 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.250 virtually unanimous in stating that the Temple Mount area of 0:32:22.250 --> 0:32:26.540 the Haram al-Sharif is where Solomon's Temple once stood. However, 0:32:26.540 --> 0:32:29.150 after the beginning of the modern state of Israel, especially 0:32:29.150 --> 0:32:33.320 since after Israel captured the city in 1967, Muslims have 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.590 been adamant in insisting that the Jews have no historical 0:32:36.590 --> 0:32:39.800 connection to Jerusalem or the Temple Mount. But now, to 0:32:39.830 --> 0:32:43.160 answer the question specifically, I do not believe the rabbis 0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.100 would ever recognize the dome of the Rock as the temple. 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:50.390 They have solid historical information on the dimensions of the temple, 0:32:50.390 --> 0:32:53.360 and the dome of the Rock just doesn't match. I 0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.300 read Biblical Archaeology Review. I don't recall in there being 0:32:56.300 --> 0:33:00.170 an article where Muslims were trying to simulate temple practices, 0:33:00.170 --> 0:33:03.650 but even if they were, those practices wouldn't match those 0:33:03.650 --> 0:33:06.770 that existed in Solomon's Temple or in the one at 0:33:06.770 --> 0:33:08.060 the time of Jesus. 0:33:08.090 --> 0:33:11.810 This listener says it's clear that various different Islamic tribes 0:33:11.810 --> 0:33:15.290 conquered Judea or Palaestina, or whatever the Romans used to 0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.910 call it in the seven hundreds. And and this had 0:33:17.910 --> 0:33:21.720 a negative impact on the Jewish inhabitants as well. Do 0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.960 you cover the administrative practices of the different occupiers since 0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.540 700 AD in your new book? 0:33:27.570 --> 0:33:29.760 Yeah, and most of what new book? Well, the new 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:31.320 book is the one that's coming out in October. Who 0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.570 Owns the land? And I talked with this fellow about 0:33:33.570 --> 0:33:35.790 it in the book. I do deal briefly with the 0:33:35.790 --> 0:33:38.790 groups that controlled the region during the Islamic period. However, 0:33:38.790 --> 0:33:41.970 I do so only in passing and without really covering 0:33:41.970 --> 0:33:45.570 the different administrative practices. For example, there is a short 0:33:45.570 --> 0:33:48.060 section that talks about the Arabs conquest of the Holy 0:33:48.090 --> 0:33:50.850 Land and how it began a period of nearly 13 0:33:50.850 --> 0:33:54.600 centuries of Muslim rule. But the Arabs themselves only controlled 0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.930 the area about five of those centuries. Arab control ended 0:33:57.930 --> 0:34:01.800 when the Seljuk Turks took Jerusalem in 1071, and then 0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.800 it passed between different Muslim groups until the Ottomans finally 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.560 controlled it, and that ended in World War One. Now 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.680 it's a confusing period for most in the West, and 0:34:10.710 --> 0:34:13.380 I try in the book not to get too technical 0:34:13.380 --> 0:34:16.259 or I'll put everybody to sleep, but there are other 0:34:16.260 --> 0:34:18.540 good sources available, and I have a lot of footnotes 0:34:18.540 --> 0:34:20.220 in there that direct people to them. 0:34:20.310 --> 0:34:22.649 Well, here's a question from Charles. He says. I've read 0:34:22.650 --> 0:34:26.040 Jesus quote in John ten verses 34 through 36, where 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:30.360 he answers the blasphemy charges by quoting Psalm 82, verse six. 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.140 The God's mentioned there, though, are what he's confused was 0:34:34.140 --> 0:34:37.319 this first verse referring to celestial beings who is being 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.200 called God's? Is verse six referring to men? Help us 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:41.339 unpack this, Charlie. 0:34:41.370 --> 0:34:43.290 Yeah, and this is going to sound a bit convoluted, 0:34:43.290 --> 0:34:46.380 so bear with me. I first start with the Psalm 82, 0:34:46.530 --> 0:34:49.080 the passage that Jesus is quoting, and the psalmist is 0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.260 drawing a parallel between God as the ultimate judge and 0:34:52.260 --> 0:34:55.260 the wicked rulers or judges in his day, who set 0:34:55.260 --> 0:34:57.750 themselves up almost as having the power of life and 0:34:57.750 --> 0:35:01.469 death over others like God, these human judges saw themselves 0:35:01.469 --> 0:35:05.400 as gods, lowercase g there, since they possess the power 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.100 to impact the lives of others. And the psalmist then 0:35:08.100 --> 0:35:11.370 asks God, you know, the ultimate judge, the capital G God, 0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.310 to call them to account for their actions. But here 0:35:14.310 --> 0:35:17.970 in another passages like Exodus 22 eight, the Hebrew word 0:35:17.969 --> 0:35:21.930 Elohim gods can indeed sometimes be used to refer to 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.830 human judges. Now, in John ten, Jesus is answering Jews 0:35:25.830 --> 0:35:28.440 who want to stone him for blasphemy. They're accusing him 0:35:28.469 --> 0:35:31.380 of breaking God's law by claiming to be one with God. 0:35:31.410 --> 0:35:34.589 Jesus points out that in the law itself, referring to 0:35:34.620 --> 0:35:37.440 the whole Old Testament, not just the mosaic law, that 0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.140 God is the ultimate judge and he could refer to 0:35:40.170 --> 0:35:43.650 human judges as gods in the sense of being expected 0:35:43.650 --> 0:35:46.200 to carry out his work on earth. And his argument 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.239 goes something like this if the Word of God can 0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.029 call human judges gods because of the work they were 0:35:51.030 --> 0:35:53.640 claiming to do for God, then how could the religious 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:57.180 leaders in Jesus's day accuse him of blasphemy for claiming 0:35:57.210 --> 0:36:00.270 to be God's son while also doing God's work on earth? 0:36:00.300 --> 0:36:02.640 In essence, he's using the Word of God to blunt 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.520 their argument they were trying to make against him. 0:36:05.550 --> 0:36:08.549 One last question from Terry. I would appreciate knowing what 0:36:08.550 --> 0:36:11.790 your description of the Kingdom of God is. Any thoughts? 0:36:11.820 --> 0:36:14.970 Yeah, I take the kingdom of God to be, especially 0:36:14.969 --> 0:36:16.590 in the book of Matthew, to refer to the coming 0:36:16.590 --> 0:36:19.739 Messianic Kingdom. We also would call it the Millennial Kingdom. 0:36:19.770 --> 0:36:22.590 You know, in the Lord's Prayer, Jesus said, your kingdom come, 0:36:22.590 --> 0:36:24.750 your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 0:36:24.780 --> 0:36:27.720 That second part of the phrase explains the first. That is, 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.510 when God's kingdom comes. It's when God is ruling on 0:36:30.510 --> 0:36:32.880 earth as he has been in heaven. And Jesus will 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.100 do that when he rules from David's throne over the 0:36:35.100 --> 0:36:36.089 entire earth. 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.370 Well, we promised you there'd be a lot of variety 0:36:38.370 --> 0:36:40.770 in these questions, and boy, there always is. Thank you 0:36:40.770 --> 0:36:43.169 for sharing yours with us when you email us at 0:36:43.170 --> 0:36:48.240 The Land and the book@moody.edu. Another segment to come. It's 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:51.359 Charlie Dyer's devotional next, right here on the land and 0:36:51.360 --> 0:37:05.940 the book. You know, the older I get, the more 0:37:05.940 --> 0:37:08.670 I have to write things down. I've taken to doing that. 0:37:08.670 --> 0:37:11.759 Typically on my phone, I get 17 different apps that 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.440 let me write down lists of to do things. But 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:15.940 this is the land in the book. And we're not 0:37:15.940 --> 0:37:20.080 about lists per se. We are about God's Book of Remembrance. 0:37:20.110 --> 0:37:22.150 That's a list of sorts, right, Charlie? 0:37:22.150 --> 0:37:23.140 It is John. 0:37:23.170 --> 0:37:26.800 And that's the focus as Charlie continues his interesting devotional series, 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.379 3/16 of the Bible. We're going to get to that 0:37:29.380 --> 0:37:32.049 after we listen to this testimony from an Israel traveler. 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:33.130 Check this out. 0:37:36.940 --> 0:37:40.810 The desert was the biggest thrill for me, and I 0:37:40.810 --> 0:37:43.150 think it may be because I've spent the last several 0:37:43.150 --> 0:37:46.990 months reading and studying the life of Abraham. So to 0:37:47.020 --> 0:37:50.020 go there and to see the Negev, and to see 0:37:50.050 --> 0:37:53.410 the land that he lived in, and to see Beersheba, 0:37:53.410 --> 0:37:57.970 to see the wealth that's located there. And to me, 0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.759 it made the Bible so much richer. And I'll give 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.040 you just a small example. But one of the things 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.290 we learned was about camels. And we would see camels 0:38:05.290 --> 0:38:08.200 in the desert. And our tour guide, who was excellent, 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:12.030 mentioned that camels would drink about ten buckets of water. 0:38:12.060 --> 0:38:14.550 And then she directed us to point it out to 0:38:14.670 --> 0:38:18.120 Abraham's servant, who went to the well and was told, 0:38:18.150 --> 0:38:21.120 you know that look for the woman who would not 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.430 only offer water to you, but for your camels. Well, 0:38:23.430 --> 0:38:26.220 I went back to the Scripture that night and read 0:38:26.219 --> 0:38:29.550 that scripture. Do you know that Abraham's servant had ten camels? 0:38:29.550 --> 0:38:31.830 Do you know that each camel would have drunk ten 0:38:31.830 --> 0:38:36.870 buckets of water? So Rebecca served 100 gallons of water 0:38:36.870 --> 0:38:39.930 to the camel. Now to me it makes the scripture 0:38:39.930 --> 0:38:43.650 so much richer. And that's one of 100 examples I 0:38:43.650 --> 0:38:44.580 could give you. 0:38:46.230 --> 0:38:48.870 Charlie, I've been intrigued with where you've taken us in 0:38:48.870 --> 0:38:52.259 your three sixteens of the Bible. Where are we headed today? 0:38:52.290 --> 0:38:55.830 Well, today we're heading to Malachi. Uh, but I got 0:38:55.830 --> 0:38:57.960 to back up just a second. It's week three of 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.080 our five week series on these famous 316 of the Bible. 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.660 And our destination today is going to be the city 0:39:03.660 --> 0:39:06.899 of Jerusalem and the last book of the Old Testament. Now, 0:39:06.900 --> 0:39:09.060 when I was growing up, John, I really thought the 0:39:09.060 --> 0:39:12.180 prophet who wrote this book was named Malachi. And no, 0:39:12.180 --> 0:39:13.950 I didn't hear the old joke about him being the 0:39:13.980 --> 0:39:18.030 Italian prophet in our little corner of northeast Pennsylvania. There 0:39:18.030 --> 0:39:21.930 was a children's television program called Hatchi Malachi that featured 0:39:21.930 --> 0:39:24.600 Miss Judy. The name of the program actually came from 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.060 a song of the same name that was recorded by 0:39:27.060 --> 0:39:30.510 Rosemary Clooney back in the early 1950s. But if the 0:39:30.540 --> 0:39:33.330 make believe Hatchi Malachi was a wonderful place that you 0:39:33.330 --> 0:39:36.390 really should see, as the opening line said, then the 0:39:36.390 --> 0:39:40.050 real life prophet named Malachi, not Malachi, lived in a 0:39:40.050 --> 0:39:43.740 far less wonderful time and place. The Jewish exiles were 0:39:43.739 --> 0:39:46.890 back in Jerusalem and the temple had been rebuilt. But 0:39:46.890 --> 0:39:51.120 the halcyon days of Haggai, Zechariah, Ezra, and even Nehemiah 0:39:51.150 --> 0:39:54.270 seemed like a distant memory. The first three of those 0:39:54.270 --> 0:39:57.359 had already passed from the scene, and Nehemiah had returned 0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:01.410 to Persia. Sadly, in his absence, the people slipped back 0:40:01.410 --> 0:40:05.040 into the same sinful patterns as before, and now their 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:09.600 actions were matched by an attitude of arrogance, Apathy and cynicism. 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.660 In the first three chapters of his book, Malachi carries 0:40:12.660 --> 0:40:15.750 on a running debate between God and the people. God 0:40:15.750 --> 0:40:19.470 makes a statement only to have the people question its truthfulness. 0:40:19.469 --> 0:40:22.500 I have loved you, says the Lord. But you ask, 0:40:22.500 --> 0:40:25.590 how have you loved us? God rebukes the priests for 0:40:25.590 --> 0:40:28.589 showing contempt for his name, but they respond, how have 0:40:28.590 --> 0:40:31.410 we showed contempt for your name? God says that they 0:40:31.410 --> 0:40:33.900 have done so by offering defiled food on the altar. 0:40:33.930 --> 0:40:38.040 Their response? How have we defiled you? The debate continues 0:40:38.070 --> 0:40:41.670 ad nauseam. You wearied the Lord with your words. How 0:40:41.700 --> 0:40:43.859 have we wearied him? You need to return to the 0:40:43.860 --> 0:40:46.230 Lord so he can return to you. How are we 0:40:46.260 --> 0:40:50.070 to return? You've robbed God. How have we robbed you? 0:40:50.100 --> 0:40:53.370 You've said harsh things against God. What have we said 0:40:53.370 --> 0:40:57.359 against you? In each round of this debate, Malachi delivers 0:40:57.390 --> 0:41:00.960 God's answer to their sarcastic question. So what had they 0:41:00.989 --> 0:41:04.830 done wrong? In spite of God's love and faithfulness to them, 0:41:04.830 --> 0:41:08.820 the people had cheated God. They violated God's covenant and 0:41:08.820 --> 0:41:11.790 had broken faith with God and with their own spouses. 0:41:11.820 --> 0:41:15.660 They didn't trust his promise, justice, and redemption. Instead, they 0:41:15.660 --> 0:41:19.260 were cheating God by withholding what rightfully belonged to him. 0:41:19.260 --> 0:41:21.930 And through it all, they were displaying an attitude of 0:41:21.930 --> 0:41:27.210 self-centered arrogance. The people's arrogance and disrespect reached its climax 0:41:27.210 --> 0:41:30.239 in the middle of chapter three. God tells them that 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:34.500 they have said harsh things against him, literally. God says 0:41:34.500 --> 0:41:38.070 they are hard against me. Your words. The word for 0:41:38.070 --> 0:41:40.920 hard or harsh has the idea of trying to overpower 0:41:40.950 --> 0:41:44.640 or prevail against. In their arrogance, they were actually telling 0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:49.770 God he wasn't worth serving. Malachi explains why you have 0:41:49.770 --> 0:41:52.799 said it is futile to serve God. What did we 0:41:52.830 --> 0:41:56.430 gain by carrying out his requirements? They had reached the 0:41:56.430 --> 0:42:00.750 point where they were calling those who were arrogant blessed. Why? 0:42:00.780 --> 0:42:05.310 Because Malachi says they felt the evildoers prosper. And even 0:42:05.310 --> 0:42:09.000 those who challenge God escape. Don't miss what these people 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:13.469 were saying, because it's crucial for understanding Malachi 316, the 0:42:13.469 --> 0:42:16.860 very next verse. In their arrogance, the people were saying, 0:42:16.860 --> 0:42:19.740 in effect, what's in it for me? I don't see 0:42:19.739 --> 0:42:22.830 any advantage in trying to obey God or follow him. 0:42:22.860 --> 0:42:26.489 Only suckers do that. Life is what you make of it. 0:42:26.489 --> 0:42:28.560 So I'm going to grab for everything I can and 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:33.810 make sure I take care of number one. Me. Sound familiar? 0:42:34.050 --> 0:42:37.830 That self-centered sense of arrogance and entitlement is as true 0:42:37.830 --> 0:42:40.950 today as it was during the days of Malachi. Their 0:42:40.950 --> 0:42:44.790 inflated sense of self-importance saw meeting their own wants and 0:42:44.790 --> 0:42:48.630 needs as being far more important than humbly submitting to God. 0:42:48.630 --> 0:42:50.730 And at least for a time, it looked like those 0:42:50.730 --> 0:42:53.520 who put themselves ahead of God were in fact coming 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.640 out on top. They were the ones prospering. They were 0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.989 the champs making those who put God first look like chumps. 0:43:01.020 --> 0:43:05.230 But that's when we come to Malachi 316. Listen to 0:43:05.260 --> 0:43:08.920 what the prophet wrote. Then those who feared the Lord 0:43:08.950 --> 0:43:12.219 talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. 0:43:12.250 --> 0:43:15.370 A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning 0:43:15.370 --> 0:43:18.940 those who feared the Lord and honored his name. Now 0:43:18.940 --> 0:43:22.060 I see three parts to this verse. First, there were 0:43:22.060 --> 0:43:25.120 still some who chose to put God first. They might 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.759 only have been a remnant, but they were still present. 0:43:27.790 --> 0:43:31.570 They saw the majority heading in one direction, but they 0:43:31.570 --> 0:43:35.379 decided to continue following God's ways, even if that path 0:43:35.410 --> 0:43:40.359 seemed almost deserted. And yet they weren't alone. This faithful 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:43.960 remnant talked with each other. They encouraged one another to 0:43:43.989 --> 0:43:48.040 remain faithful, to stay true to God. Never underestimate the 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:52.540 importance of gathering with other like minded individuals to provide 0:43:52.540 --> 0:43:56.350 mutual encouragement. As the writer of Hebrews put it, let 0:43:56.350 --> 0:43:59.080 us not give up meeting together, as some are in 0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.870 the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another, 0:44:01.870 --> 0:44:04.900 and all the more so as you see the day approaching. 0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.600 The next part of the verse is just as important, 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:11.860 perhaps even more so. And the Lord listened and heard. 0:44:11.890 --> 0:44:15.670 God took special notice of those who feared or revered 0:44:15.670 --> 0:44:19.120 him in a special way. Like the 7000 who hadn't 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.520 bowed the knee to Baal in the times of Elijah, 0:44:21.550 --> 0:44:25.210 God knew those who were still faithful. He paid special 0:44:25.210 --> 0:44:28.899 attention to them. There are times when you might feel alone, 0:44:28.900 --> 0:44:32.110 but if you placed God front and center in your life, 0:44:32.140 --> 0:44:34.810 you can be confident that he will never leave you 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:38.770 nor forsake you. And finally, Malachi reports that a scroll 0:44:38.770 --> 0:44:42.250 of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.339 feared the Lord and honored his name. Now the image 0:44:45.340 --> 0:44:48.550 is of God as the divine King, having his angelic 0:44:48.550 --> 0:44:52.840 scribes record in his heavenly archive the names of those 0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.200 who are still faithful. But when Mordecai uncovered a plot 0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:59.620 against the king of Persia and reported it, Esther 223 0:44:59.620 --> 0:45:02.290 says the event was recorded in the book of the 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.350 Annals in the presence of the King. And though nothing 0:45:05.350 --> 0:45:09.460 happened immediately, at just the right moment, Mordecai was rewarded 0:45:09.460 --> 0:45:12.400 for his faithful deed. In the same way, God is 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.610 keeping a record of those who remain faithful in spite 0:45:15.610 --> 0:45:19.180 of what others might choose to do. Malachi ends his 0:45:19.180 --> 0:45:22.090 book with God's special promise to those who make it 0:45:22.090 --> 0:45:25.420 into his book. They will be mine, says the Lord Almighty. 0:45:25.420 --> 0:45:27.850 In the day when I make up my treasured possession, 0:45:27.850 --> 0:45:31.029 I will spare them. Just as in comparison a man 0:45:31.060 --> 0:45:33.880 spares his son who serves him. And you will again 0:45:33.910 --> 0:45:36.879 see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between 0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:40.120 those who serve God and those who do not. So 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.700 what can we take home with us from our visit 0:45:42.700 --> 0:45:47.800 to Malachi 316? Once again, I see two important lessons. First, 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.650 we need to distinguish between what we see now and 0:45:50.650 --> 0:45:53.770 what God says is still coming. It often does seem 0:45:53.770 --> 0:45:57.160 as if those who practice sin, rebellion, and selfishness are 0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:59.320 the ones who are getting ahead, while those who put 0:45:59.350 --> 0:46:02.710 God first fall behind. But we need to remember that 0:46:02.710 --> 0:46:05.440 God is keeping detailed records and that the end of 0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:08.680 the story hasn't yet unfolded. There is a day coming 0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.980 when God will open his heavenly annals to reward those 0:46:11.980 --> 0:46:14.890 who remain faithful. And second, we need to remember the 0:46:14.890 --> 0:46:18.310 importance of encouraging our fellow believers to remain faithful and 0:46:18.310 --> 0:46:22.270 stay the course. Malachi 316 is a reminder to fear God, 0:46:22.270 --> 0:46:26.590 encourage the saints, and focus on his eternal reward. 0:46:26.739 --> 0:46:29.049 Boy, I think that's a reminder we need today as well. 0:46:29.050 --> 0:46:29.950 Thank you Charlie. 0:46:30.130 --> 0:46:30.790 You're welcome. 0:46:30.820 --> 0:46:32.920 Lots to think about, and maybe you'd like to hear 0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:35.500 today's program again or share it with a friend. We 0:46:35.500 --> 0:46:38.589 encourage you to do that. It's available at the Land 0:46:38.590 --> 0:46:41.560 and the book. Org. Check out our podcast at the 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:46.060 Land and the book.org. Thanks for making us a part 0:46:46.090 --> 0:46:49.030 of your day. I'm John Gager for our host, Charlie Dyer. 0:46:49.060 --> 0:46:52.330 The land and the book is a production of Moody Radio, 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.060 a ministry of Moody Bible Institute.